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LATEST IKTEIiialNCE FROM : £ 2 ^ 2 CANADA . - - - ' ¦ ¦ : " - ; ' - ^ m \ —— : ¦ ¦ : / ¦ . ' .. > ^ EVACUATION OF NAVY ISLAND * A& express # d& Portsmonih , TrMdi we received lKt night , Itronghi tuf > New York papers to ^ he 23 &if « cei ? e < l ^> y the GlaSiator , -which saakd upon " Wesabjwn extrat ^ s , giving tke < ktaila of " the * atlitary occurrences" at . Naxf Island . to the 15 th , the laiat ^ b&t tad reached jtfesr York to the departure * of dte packet . These icccnata wiil be fooai to ¦ contain ^» U that had occurred since the last intelli-^ gSHJe ifhicli tre bad before xmr readers , « p to the « T&c&stion of &e ™ T » th } toy tbe insurgents . - ! A 34 texed to these detail "will be foosid farther pirticnlars relative to &e-destruction of the steamkoai "Caroline . " « O * BES ? OKDKNCS t >* ^ PHE -aXBiiiY BVEJttNO . " jifiyifsjis * .
Bnffiilo , Jan . 5 , 1838 . Bear Sir , —Heavy Sriag hariBg been heard here ytxt &or honra past , . great amdety has been felt in "reference to the expected'battle at Navy Island . "The cars have jnstctaenp , by which we learn that tiie royalists rnmwnrrrt a tremendous fire upon the island from the Bads'aEDre , at one o'clock this aftersoom . They have-sateen pieces of artillery and - eTeral mortars , att of" which are in the most active operation . Tfee'fore * is ^ about 4 , 000 militia , 209 Tegnlam , and 280 IndiafeB ; the latter mostly aniTed last night in canoes , from above . With these , and -a © assistance " of &e ~ steam-boat Thames sab their
schooners , lying at Black Creek , two miles abeve the island , it is Expected they will attack the patriots ; ¦ to-night , and God knows what may be the result -A great loas of ' life will ensue , at any rate , as the patriots are : pretty well prepared , and the islaad itself is almost impregnable . The patriot- force is aibout l , 0 W > -to-l , 200 , as near as we can learn , and » more determined set of men for good or evil , were probibly never congregated . They have aWtbirty jfteees of artillery ^ and are well supplied wkh-small arms aad-other munitions of war ; "We -are of eonrse . waifing with intense anxiety to hear from Awn ¦ """ --
Mackenzie came np here with his wife hist even-Ing , and was immediately arrested by the Marshal , Jfo . Gxrrow , on a charge of " setting on foot and preparing the means for a military expedition and enterprise within the territory of the United States , to be earned on from thence upon the territory and dominions of a foreign state , with whom the United States are at peace . " Fifty of our citizens came "promptly forward and bailed him in the sum Tequired , 5 , 000 dollars , and he returned immediately to the island , determined to abide the result . I will write to you again to-morrow . /¦ - __ " " . _ - . _ Yours truly , D . M . D .
Thuiiow TSeed , Esq . . . Correspondence of the Albany Argus . Niagara Falls , Jan 5 . Dear Sir—An attempt at meditation and aegoda-¦ tion , on the part of some of our respectable -citizens , between the authorities in Canada and the persons « a Navy Island , has been made : hnt it was suddenly broken , off for some cause or other , -and a conmittee that had been appointed did not prooeed to Canada , 'though they had held some slight communication with General Tan Rensselaer . Major Smith of this place , went over yesterday , and he discovered several significant appearances of his being detained , and
besides , after Ms papers were delivered , he was ordered to quit the province immediately . He declined ^ oing over again . General "Whitney , also a citizen of this village , offered to go . He was permitted to jetnrn , and treated very civilly while there . He had an interview with the governor of more than an hour . The common report of the answer to the mission is , ¦ that the persons on Navy Island may remote from thence unmolested . "Whether the " pirates" ( to adapt the same applied to them in Canada ) consider "this » favour , and are disposed to accept of it , I do not know . The position of the island is a strong one , but it is a bad place on which to spend the
/ srrnter . ' lie ports are again circulated that Duneombe is in ibree in the vicinity of Maldon- These reports are * ff a very , doubtful character . Nothing interesting iaa occurred in this quarter . ( From the Buffaba CommercHLl Advertiser , Jan . lZ . ) Natt Island . —There was really a tremendous cannonading at Nary Island last night . It commenced about eleven , and lasted till * wo , and ¦ was kept np with the greatest spirit on both sides . If ear Schlosser it sounded Kke an incessant Toar of ¦ a rtillery . The wind being favourable , it was heard
iistinctiy in this city . A friend says he counted above 300 reports . By extracts from an extra of the Chronicle Office at Niagara , in another column , it wiH be seen that part of the 24 th regiment have arrived from Montreal . The unwonted activity on the Canada snore is probably owing to their presence . In addition to cannon-shot , the Canadians threw a large number of bombs . A letter irom . the Island , - dated this morning , to a young gentleman of this city , states that none were failed , but it is reported that some eight or ten were wounded . " We have no information on which we
can xdy as to the loss of the British . About twelve o ' clock last night , the express came up from Schlosser , with . information that -Van Uensselaer and all his force had landed on our shore , and it was thought they were coming up the xiyer with the intention of crossing over i o Canada at Black Bock . The alarm bell wasinstantly rung , the drums beat to arms , gons were fired , and many , doubtless , thought that the city was about to become the scene of a conflict . The Governor and General Scott immediately Tepaired to the rock , where , in a short time , the Tnflitia , artOlerv , and eity guards
-srere assembled . The Teport that the Navy Islanders had left their position tafned out to be unfounded , and the military force returned this morning to the city- Governor Marcy and Gen . Scott , we understand , have gone down to Schlosser . The Eagle was thronged from morning to night yesterday by our citizens , anxious to pay their respects to Governor Marcy and General Scott . t&e city has been kept in such constant commotion fer the last few weeks , that every inhabitant , -except those whose trade is agitation , was heartily desirous of seeing quiet opce more restored , and the arrival of Governor Marcy and General Scott , " » as hailed as the harbinger of peace . We sincerely iope that these anticipations will prove to be true .
{ From the Buffalo Com . Ado . —Exlra . y January 13 , Five o'Clock , p . m-The following was received from our special messenger after out paper jrent topress : — Conespendence ef the ifely Com . Adv . * * GfBodfi ^| fcd , Friday Eremng , Jan . 12 , 1838 . _** I spent several honrs on Navy Island at General TanReusselaer ' B head-qnarteTs , a log house , from -winch flie family had removed to Colonel Ayr's q uarters on Graad island , whose generousioapitality lam at present enjoying . They left on the island vote ol
a . oxen , which are very serviceable' to 4 he soldiers ; a cow , -which .-supplies the officers with 3 n 3 k ; twenty-few pigs , some of which hav « been -slaughtered ; aod a few fowls . There ate but Jwo iorses on the island , used by the General , andfbr-the * grand roand- ' Tbej Eve comfi * tabry , consideri ^ especially smee flie-cap ture of the British pork . " Three loads -hadH » eeu bought and paid for in aalver , at the rate -of -about 80 dollars per barrel . The patriots got wind of it , and a . party went and took seventeen barrels .
[ This was J&e pork that we inentioDal yesterday , asbavingb © eBj 4 aten-frjcimAe : BlaekJRQek / J "Idined with < reneral Fan'Bensselaer on some of the pork , aad ^ at-beans the . bomo- « hell didn't ^> 31 , and he seated the ; gtoiy ; of the : caj > ture " with much glee . At las left jsat j OH ; Sam Uohnson < I -Behere " tia las juune ) , the Chief of Ae Gatarangus * c 2 > e , who exmeibere to proffer the-servioes of ids Mairiors . -.-...- .-. . - . . ?^ Colonel Ayr inJbrms one tiat more diets have ^ j ^ aro Grand Island , some -of which ins ' men j 6 a £ -brought in . * && ^ American troops . are comiSMtably ataated , and whUe 1 ^ rrite ' are ^ sonndly - ^ onng on f te straw , and we Jefore ; a blaanng
. -V . ExjtyjBX- o'Ciorac , jjs . —Aasannonaaingias -cojnnemced faa flw ^ Caaada shQTejwhich las ijeen iept np with ^ irit Jew Ae last half hour . Xb ^ e : 3 ^ b ^ beoi firedaiegnn ^ « m € dozen bcanb ^ eeB * im ? mtP ortmtnAett : . Iqit-nrhere Ijacsee eiere jSaab ? ; - - - - ~ ZSk .-m ? qkaM «» eetacle . Ail . tie * aelb hQkm ^ M f * mmmm ^ a . They « g ihrowine a » % aaBto&nRwn . I iafcohati fte thaaiKf oT £ * £ iitfeg any " 'Bpcry on tbe idand is 1 in /^ , or iattewKmfs . But two crliree diots have iwen fired inm . Km Island . _ I hear a . stray ball whisQe now
mo men , Jet Botinng near jenooga to be at aa ier-•^ No boats are on the Canada « de of ffie ^ riser , and ihe cwmaoading Btffl « mtioues . An assault * B 9 B . aeisland is ont . of the ^ ae 8 &oa . z One fiam ^*« * £ * I& ^ pwi Cbfypemtiis bs&Sfy talked ^ ^ - ^ e ^ n iW even volofltered far the , expe-™»^ . ; 5 ^ * B 4 : commec « d so faioon , has * j *~ Bf& * may ; wxd I now hear and see * buut two WpKOa ^ JBie , Ti , ey had fired away about J ^ OOlbs . ' - * Mg ^ £ * &-< & * - * g ° Ps had been . fired from ^ Pjjgggi ^ ggd tfee royal batteries are ^ ilgnot ^ , frr » e . ; i » Wl « st , Tfcie gong haTe cooled ai . l fc
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cannonading has recommenced with a shot from Navy Island occasionally . I have heard cheering from both sides , — - ' - "'' - ' '¦ - ' -: ¦ — ' - <¦ ¦ ¦ ' ¦ " The feres on the foot of Grani Island ( about 150 ) many of whom are wi ^ out arms , talk of moving . Such is the suggestion -xH-the : General . The Colonel will not start without further orders He has sent for muskets , and t&nks , I belieTe righttyi that if he stays on tke isiand at all , here is the spot . Here is the front of the frontier opposite the high contending -powers , and in full ^ iew of every movement and every battle . For say sake I hope they will stay at present V
" Mobning . —The fire confinoei at intervali all night , and has been the heaviest cannonading they have had during tfce war . The firing , daring the latter part ef the Slight , ' was from both sifes , and each , like & woman , wanted tire hist word . " "While putting the above in type , a heavy canonnading from-Navy Island could be distinctly heard amid the osuai noise and bustle of our streets . "We shall probably learn this evening tbe * esult . - Pretty warm workTnay be eonfidenay an € cipated . The regulars « ew opposite the island ,-will hardly be as peaceably disposed as were the " volunteers under M'Nab .
[ From the New York American of the 20 th . ] FKOM THE FRONTIEB -- EVACUATION OF NAVY ISLAND . The northern mail arrived at a late hour last night , bringing the Albany papers of yesterday morning , and Buffalo of Monday last . It will be seen by the annexed intelligence that the patriots have evacuated Navy Island and dispersed . The cannon belonging to the state and the United States have been returned , and are under the care of Colonel Ayres , of the militia , stationed on Grand Island .
. { Correspondence of the Albany Argu * . ] Buffalo , Jan . 15 , 1838 . Dear Sir , —I avail myself of an express , on the eve of starting for the east , to say that the feroe assembled on Navy Island evacuated last nightthat they are now some where on our shore , it is understood , endeavouring to make their way to some point higher up , to embark for where is not precisel y ktwvm—without arms . The state cannon are being recovered . The marshal is on the out vice , with his
deputies ( directed by the district attorney ) , to serve civil process on the leaders , if they can be found . Prom personal examination , I am satisfied that the six or seven hundred guns , shot and shell , thrown upon the island killed but one man . The English force , it is believed , lost 16 " killed by the return fire . Governor Marcy and General Scott are here doing all that existing laws permit to maintain neutrality The govermor has been very active and efficient under circumstances of great difficulty .
[ From the Buffalo Star Extra , Jan . 15 . ] IMPORTANT NEWS . 2 JAVT ISLAND EVACUATED—THE CANNON BELONGING TO THE STATES SURRENDEREDTHE PATRIOT AB . 2 T ? DISPERSED . By express this morning we learn that during the night the patriot army retreated from Navy Island , after having conveyed the cannon belonging to the state and the United States to Grand Island , and left them under the care of Colonel , Ayres , of the militia .
[ From the Buffalo Commercial Advertiser of ' Monday J £ vening . ~] " Schlosser , Monday morning , Jan . 15 , 1838 . " Navy Island was evacuated last night . The cannon belonging to . the United States have been returned , and are lying at Schlosser . "
GESEBAI . ORDEK . Head Quarters , Chippewa , Jan . 3 , 1838 . Burning of the Caroline . —Colonel M'Nab has great satisfaction in announcing to the forces under his command , that the destruction of the steamboat Caroline in the employment of the pirates on Navy Island , which was effected in a manner so highly creditable to the gallant volunteers from the naval brigade and troops , on the night of the 20 th
December , 1837 , has met with the unqualified approbation of his Excellency the Lieutenant-Governor , and that his Excellency desires to express to Captain Drew and the brave volunteeers who accompanied him , his thanks for the important Bervice they have rendered to this province , and which hii Excellency will loose no time in making known to her Majesty ' s government . —By order , &c . Brock Young , Assistant Brigade Major .
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HOUSE OF COMMONS . TUESDAY , February 13 . THE GLASGOW COTTON 8 PIKKERS . Mr . WAKLE . Y said , that before he made the motion which was on the paper , he should take the _ liberty of presenting to the House a number of petitions which had been entrusted to him , and which had reference to" the case of the Glasgow cotton-spinnere . The first was from the inhabitants of Dewsbury , in the West Riding of Yorkshire , unanimously and respectably signed , and praying for an inquiry into the case of the cotton-spinners , and also'for ' a mitigation of their sentence . He also had other petitions from Johnstone , from Kingstonon-Hull , from Brighton , from the bookbinders of London , from the carpenters and joiners of Glasgow
from a Society of Operatives assembled in York , and from Rotheram ; which all prayed for inquiry into the case , and a mitigation of the sentence , and some of which , in addition , desired an inquiry into the nature and character of unions ; and some of which also expressed the belief of the petitioners that the charges preferred were unfounded . He also had a petition from die Working Men's Association of Bristol , in which there was a peculiar proposition , which was , that in the event of his ( Mr . Wakley's ) motion being negatived , and the amendment of Air . O'Counell adopted , for the institution of an inquiry into the subject of unions and combinations , tne committee which should be appointed should consist half of members of this
House and half of working men . ( A laugh . ) The proposition was a novel one , and he had no hesitation in saying that such an inquiry would give great satisfaction to the working classes . Mr . FIELDEN presented a petition from Edinburgh , and a petition from Glasgow , also praying for an inquiry into the case of the cotton-spinners and a mitigation of their sentence . Mt . WAKLEY then rose , and gave a history of the proceedings connected with the arrest asd imprisonment of the men , the £ 600 reward , the postponement of trial , the redrawing up of the indictment , < fec . In the indictment there was a count for vitriol-throwing , a count for arson or fire-raising a count for murder , and others which alleged crimes
to have been committed of which , if the prisoners had been guilty , they might well have been thought the vilest culprit * who were ever brought ioto a court of justice . These men , then , who were thus so grievously and foully calumniatpd , were only convicted of a conspiracy to raise wage * , and also for assault , for which th s most severe sentence was passed on them . He should now proceed to call me attention of the House to what was said by the jndge who summed np the evidence , and pasted sentence on the prisoners . { Here the speaker quoted from the Judges , ch . 37 . J AltbxraghTthen the jndge said that the charges conid not be believed as to the niarder and threatening letter , he intimated to lEe jury , at the conclusion of the snmTnin < r
up , that with regard to die charge of threatening letters , iAe / urtr would judge from what quarter they uxwldcome , but from persons taking the most lively interest m the association , and so wife ; regard to the attempts at-fire-xaisiHg ; a » d such observations on the part of the judge were called the system < tf Just ¥ x in Scotland . Again , on passing sentence on the prisoners , the Lord Jo *« tice Cleft said , ^ It is for the purpose of deterring others from perawtnig in ttar evD conraes , and of bringing thatiJart tJTtlie COTmunity with which you are connected into a state of order , < fec" Lord Mackenzie said , « We nra * tkeepKin vie * r the distinction between t&smme He ( Mr . Wakky ) conld aethelp saying tkttitwas ^ r emarkable th&g that a jtidgi 8 bSft | i mafe MA oMenaaaiv
. - it was in * k * pasang sentence for a enme ^ f which they hai J ^ SSr A ^^ iHAbeeB-fo ^ gBl ^^ an ^^^^ areateRmg fetters , * bmt tfee &s % oage ef fl » jndM wa » 4 o : tfc « u « &ctfi » at « ieT « ereCT ^ wwe juoge Lord MONCRIEFF fisid , titat &e adiotment stated ^ tiro j Astinct instancei -of infenidafion and assault on ahe part of tliegaard committee- InthA first iwfirt »« lt , H * tw 6 * uanki he bad allndedwerc iiotmentioned . HeikoteUUketeknoV TOder xbju . ntntnte , aytriiat law , * ndedemesBoux of the ijnd , Tin 11 in nirmiiiM y laiin ft—ml juilij «^« oal 4 be punished » ih seven yeacs ' iraafjiortation . Aa Hi £ u . GenUexuik below Turn , said hj ib& co mnion lav ; but he iMt . Wakley ) oenteoded , that ihe
conanon law of England idid » qt ; j adBut ^ jf sadk & puTnAypfent for jl wsi ^ a isaaiesosssunxL . If ' any parJaasin England irtare fonadftdlfyirf ^ duuges these perious were fennd guilty ot , a » d Lwfcieh was « alled \ conspiracy in ^ otfanri ^' -t ^>* y 'Wn « y- hft ^ a >> lp to onl y jthree months ' imprisbriment ^ but in'Scotlahd theyiTOtild , ^ appeared , Jbe liable to fiave a sentence of ttansporteijoii for jsesjeaa years passed . oft them , ¦ Seeing the najnre ' of the cadence iaddnced an the tr ial , wlatie ^ ien intended Jo call for was , a . fall inquiry-iiiU ) ihe « ature pf the Cotlon-sphwuig As 8 & caoon . He did not intend' to propose "Jhe . iwb refolutions whieh he lad given nofice ot , bulnhonld : ¦' . ¦;¦ ¦/ - ¦ >* ii 3 f . to ihe firrf of Ujem . ( Hear , Mar ;)
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Hg ^ H ^ HH ^ HpH ^^ B ^^ HBPHHH ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ _ J ^ ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^™^^^^^^^^ g ^^^^^^^~^^^^^^^ W ^ W ^^^ MM ^ WWWWWWl ^ l ^^^^" He intended to dp so , be <^^^ e thought tnat ^ ii I would be more prudent to withdraw hiBsecond resp ^ J lalion , relying , as he did , on the friendly feelings oi members , and even on the good feeling * tf those who , even if they had committed ^ errow in their proceedingB , had done so from ignomnce . He brought no charges against the executive government—he bronght no charges ngaiait the 'Lord Ad * vooate , tit against 'Hie otiier legal advisers of the Crown , but he aiked ^ he imploredL , them not to send these men from the country > until the whole case had been fully investigated . He warned the House against acting ia anything like a spirit of hottility to to
e wonang muumuw cngiuiuanit oucu a course could not but be attended with the greatest < lmngw f end he : woold tell Honourable Genuemen oppotate ^^ not to snppoae tfet they could long uphold the Conservative institutions of the country when tne feelings of the people w « pe against themf He begged the House to recollect tpit the -working classes , were not the ignorant body ? that thjey wtfre formerly Baid to be , but , that knowledge and intelligence were extensively spread , asaonst them . Thatlarge body was notrewesented in that House , and , indeed , they had created a peculiar qualification which preventedthe working men from sending any of their own class into that House , and , in addition to that .
the franchise given by the Reform Bill excluded the larger portion of them . ( Hear , hear , from the opposition' benches . ) Honourable Gentlemen opposite cheeped ; but were they when they appeared to tWnk withbim that the Reform Bill was not a perfect or sufficient measure , prepared to go further—would they support a propoaitjon : fpr Universal Suffrage ? He was sure that the reBult would be , that the working millions in this country-would force their demands on the attention of the House until their just claims were heard with success . The Hon . and Learned Member for Dublin had given notice of an amendment to his motion . The Hon . and Learned Gentleman said , that he was favourable to inauirv
This was all that tke Members of the Trades' Unions demanded ; they said that they were most : anxious for the fullest investigation , so that they might have an opportunity of removing the imputationa which had been cast on their characters . Whether Che House agreed to the inquiry on his motion , or oh that of his Hon . and Learned i riend , was immater ^ lj all that he required was , that the inquiry should be full and complete , and that tne unfortunate men who had been convicted in Scotland should be retainedin this country until the investigation wan at an end . Because the CombinationLaws had been repealed , Hon . Gentlemen thought that the working men acted improperly , if they made any provision for a
future fame out of their weekly wages . So far frota this , he thought that the working man deserved credit for making provision out of his wages , to apply it when the day of want came ; and it was quite immaterial , whether this was . done by union amongst the working classes or otherwise . Indeed , it wbj a question with him , whether Uie law should not do a little more than it did at present for the protectibu of the interests of the working classes . The fact was , that there was nothing but combinations amongst the rich , from one end of the country to the other . ( Hear , hear . ) -. He had no hesitation in saying , that there was a trade union in that House . The landed proprietors in that House constituted
the large majority , and took care to prevent any alteration in the law which would make com cheapi By doing » o , they thinned the blood of the-people , and kept down plethora among them . He trusted , therefore , that gentlemen in that House would be more chary for the future in making such charges against the working classes . His Hon . and beaniqd Friend , the Member for Dublin , condemned / the . workmen of that city , because they-did ^ H * : aJlbw each tradesman to have more than a certtun number of apprentices . H « did not , however , cbndeinii a similar practice which existed in his own nrofessiou , for no attorney was allowed to have more th > m two apprentices ; and they not only had an arriiiireiuent
amongst themselves , but they got a statute passed for the purpose . That rule , therefore , wfccu was highly approved of with regard .- to ' lawyers , was most strongly condemned in other trades . AVaiu , had they not a trade union in the Temple ? ( liear , hear . ) Had they not in that place a receut auu remarkable instance of conspiracy a ^ dinot tiiu ^ tluiuand abilities of the extraordinary luau near hiiu—( hear , hear )—which bad prevented linn acii-. iimij : that station and wealth xii' the proie ? siuii "w ' iiic . i his talents would have iusured to hiinrW ' lieu there was such a remarkable instauccr of the prevent ing the acquisition of rank aii ' U . wtjaltli ui a liberal profession , by a combiudtion . of a vje eaUble
cuque in the heart of the metropol . s , .: tWy stioulu got make such loud complaints of ciiiubiuanous of working men , at distant places , who ' :. uau ' - > ut ; 'i » difficulties to contend with . ( Hear , hesir . ) -Ttiey ought not to sanction such a stuie of tliiiig * m the law , and punish , with the utmost rigour , poor and _ unfortunate men who attempted to ga . u au addition to their scanty earnings , aud tp iib . aiii bread for themselves and $ « mlie 3 . This was tli « system that was pursued witu regard-tatliiworiv ; ing classes ; and he would a » k o , iy ' . liVjupuraLTe Member , whether he would noc blusU if h ^ . thought that those men were .. hi , ^ coun trvineii irho could patiently submit to the lull ' cliOu of such hardships on them as tLe wortiuk
classes have been subjected to' ? - .. " ( Henr , hear . ) He knew that there was the greatest repuguange to discuss questions in that House which -involved any thing like an appealfrom the decision of a court of law . It was the common custom to state that it was inexpedient to make that House a court of appeal from courts of law ; but he would ask to what other tribunal could they appeal ? "W here could matters of this kind be so propeily discussed as in that House ?—( Hear , hear , hear . ) It should be remembered that the judges were not the masters of the public but the servants . He did riot wish to make any remarks on the conduct of the judges in any court of law ; all that he was anxious for was
securing the confidence and respect of the people . He would ask the Learned Lord Advocate under what English statute these men could be transported . He was aware that under the 9 th of Geo . IV " . that it had been maintained that if they conspired to commit assaults , they could be capitally , indicted . They were not , however , indicted under this statute indeed no mention was made of it ; he therefore thought the indictment was framed under the commonlaw . All the papers of the Association were seized by the Sheriff when the documenta of the committee were taken by surprise ; anid he' would ask what internal evidence these documents exhibit of tiie existence of an illegal Association ?
But suppose that these persons were present when the assault was committed , did it justify them in passing on the prisoners a sentence of transportation for seven yeara ? After the enactment in the Act of Parliament , which he had read to the House , he was of opiuiojj-: that the highest punishment that Aould be inflicted on the prisoners was iihprispument for three mbn&s . By taking an analogous case he thought that a great light might be thrown on the subject . He intended to direct the attention of the House to ttie analogous case of the Orange Association . He knew that some Honourable Members might object to any allusion to the Orange Association , bat he did so because it would show in
what a different manner the law was administered to this exalted body , and to the humble Association of Workmen . It wag well known that the Orange Awodation was an illegal bodyj and it was rendered bo by the oath taken by its members . With respect to ^ Glamg ^ Aiwciatwn , it was asserted ftat in oat ii wa « administered ; three of the witnewea for the Crown deposed that there was such an oath in that bodyja ^ ttn , njur of the witnesses for tW Crown' denied wat ttere was any 8 © cre >^ oaiflitttee m eonnectioa with the Association . Saeh ^ BdeeU was the contradiction on the part of the witnessa for the Crown , that it was surprising that tie counsel for the prisoners thought it expedient to -call any witnesses for the defence . II this had taken place , he thought that the Lori Advocate would have felt that lie bad been placed in rather an awkward situation . He woull proceed to make a
few remarka as to what hM taken place before the trial . He hao already said that £ 600 had been offered for information which would lead to conviction » But low were the witnessesi treated before the trial ? The four chief witnesses for the Crown were confined togetker in . one room . These men were jateben tf fl «^^ ftmnaed together ib one raomi and «» y' were in expectatien of receiving tke £ 600 if Hhax evidenbe klS . ^ vict the prwowr * . ^ eed he add tha ^ by jnrsuiuK this course ^ * te . witnesses had eVery oppoSt ^ ol agmii ^ to vtfce eviJeoce they ihould %£ & * & % frammg it in a way wikh was most rl&el ^ Ito lead to conTicbon . On * he trial no objecttM : Wa » allowed against the testimony of these wrtnesses although ftej : Iaid"li » ed tbfeQier ; bat tkeVredtrei refused to reedwe theerideaoipi tiro witoesteT for
s ^ ed * declaration thatrJt ^^ STnot l . h tjie spot when ttejaanier-was committed on tbe ni ^ ht rtte ^ bo ,, ^ 4 idtot < una ^« S o ^^ P « tal adadiaalwa * « Tj « 6 e feouM 1 ^ ptm ^ M by Jeea ^ ing the triimbe on « se side ; and ^ irfuftS j ° ™ oew Ae erSflenoexjf sritoesaes for th . 0 defence ^^^ ple reaaonliB naa « tatecL-- ( Hear- ^ nearA TheOraoge AnocUtinn was notonly ^ iB fliS ~ * \ ^ Pf ** Ammom ass ocia t ion , but it wa ^ an J »»^ rfal i « e . Seeing , ^ erefore ^ that H waaan imlaw&l ^ asaooation , and that « pme oftbegreatestmen in &e landidonged to it , wjitjnust be ^ the fceW of the wofbngjnillions of M * ijonntry when ^ HeV found that noj . iwBcution tad beeoiBstfttW against any one member « f that aitociatibn ; * We ' neoble were sent himtiBg and peering about the ^ countortor f tejurpose of '^^ g any persons ' ^ ho ^ have been guilt } © I nolatingthelawin flieie traps '
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Unions ? . ; Wbathe aakeil w *» that ftese men should not he sent away uatU ail inquiry had . been made into this ( jlasgow ^^ Cb ^ -spinnera As ^ iatiph . - He askedior ;^ o iniiulty jntp ^ the triaU . It might perhaps be Said that th ^ rt was no paraUeV between the case of this association ^ and the eaae of the Orange Assoi ciation—that no serious outrages had arisen put of the Orange Association . But this was a mistake Near Glasjgow itself serious outrages had been caus ^ ed by Orangemen , in one of * bich a constable was Ishot iy an Orangeman . Jne vmurderer was taken ande ^ ecuted , and here the question arose , if tiie assau ^ at Mile l ^ couid be tr aced to tbeleaders ^ bf the ^ co ^ on ^^ spinnera association , ^ ^ jnerely because the f ar ^ es committing it were connected with th ^ t assotum $ n > how . ww : it tnatlhe ieaaers of ; the Orange Associatipn ^ were ^ not prosecuted for the murder
eommitteft on the constable by one of their body P ; If ^ ereJiraj culpability in the pne case thire swas crimiaali ^ y ih the other . This was a mod e of admintsteriug the law which would be productive of the most frightful consequences ; If they wished tile Cro . wtt to be respected , the-courts of justice to » e belovedj they must fceep tie fountain of justice free from all impurity and corruptipn . The honourable gentleman concliided by stating that he should only move the first resolution of which he had given notice , which thehonourable member ' then read as follows : —" That this ^ house is of opinion that a select committee should be appointed to inquire into tile constitution , ' practices and effects of a society which has loflg existed in Scotland , uhder the title of the " Association of Operative ; Cotton-spinners of Glasgow and its neighbourhood . " ' , ¦[ *
Tihe LVttl ) AWYOCATE saioV-Mn Wakley had misrepresented the judges whd / were not present to defend themselves . He ( the Lord Advocate ) regretted that he had hot 'been present when the Honourable Gentleman first brought the . question before the ; House \ but he hadno idea , from the feeling which prevailed in ^^ Scotland respecting these proceedings , that they were likely to engage the attention of the House during the short interval between the . assembling of Parliament and the recess . Hadl he been / at all awiaTe that it would be brought forward , he would have takeiv eare / to be in his place ( Hear , hear ); As it was , the Hbnburable Member would do him the justice to admit / that since the ; reassembling of Parliament he had manU fested no desire for delay in bringing the question
under the consideration of the House . ; v- On the cbntrary , he much rejoiced that it was now before the House , so that . the ^ whole matter : might be fully considered j and the justice of the laws of Scotland vindicated . ( Hear , hear ;) \ It had been stated that many of those summoned on thie jury were confessedly so prejudiced & ^ to be unfit to try the case ; but how stood the fadt ? "; That every advantage had been in this respect , as in others , given to the person ^ accused , and had been fully exercised by them . Not ; fewer than 25 . challenges were made to the jury by the prisoners , while not one single challenge was made on the part of the crown . The law pi Scotland , he would repeat , gavei great advantages to
persons accused w hich they did not possess her * . In the first place , and this should be attended to , as the circumstance ; led to some of the peculiarities which had occasioned much remark put of doors— - in the first place , by the law of Scotland no crime , whether of great or smalj importance , could be proved against any perbori without the evidence of tw ^^ . Tafitpussesi at the least , or of one witness / supparted by circumstanti- jf evidence confirmatory of his evidence . Take the case of a person of the highest character ^ who had brought forward his evidence that h ^^ had been robbed or assaulted , or otherwise aggrieved by any other inferior offence : however unimpeachable his character , unless the
public prosecutortould call some other witness , or prove some circumstance : to confirm the evidence , the jury vyoutd be directed by the judge unanimously to tind that the oflence was not proVen . ( Hear . ) ; VVhatever might be ; jthbiight of this rule , it certainly gave a great advantage to the persons accused ; and ; , ersons accustomed to the administration of law in Scotland were frequently surprised in witnessing in Eiiglish criniinal courts persons ' adjudged '" guilty on « yideiicu on which a conviction could not be . obtained ' m Scotland . This rule had led to the giving verdicts iii" . the different forms of " guilty" or " not guilty , " " pi ' oytjii . " - or " not proven , '' because it would be most unreasonable to require of a jury , convincedby the unim
peac'bjible testimony of one witness of . the guilt ¦ of ' . stn accused person , to proiaounce him not guilty , wliile tlie lawv of . the land forbade them to declcre nan guilty ,-except on the evidence of two witness * s > Tii ^ such cn ^ esi it was left to tfiera to declare the pflcuce ' . ^ lot proven . " ¦ A nother advantage was , that Uie accusedjuerspn bad , a copy of the ind ^^ ctmentfurnislied bimiffieeii days before the day of trial ; containing a narrative of the facts to be proved agaimt him ^ and / itousenablm There wasalso at ^^ the samei time ^ furnished him a Ugt ot all the witnessea against hiirij wLile here a copy of the indictment was only furnished to the prisoner on the very day of trial . ¦ T hese-werivereat . advjmtages . to / the accused persbri . : Another peculiar
advantage / which the . ' accused person posHs ^ d iu Scotland , the policy qf \ vhich w as : ess ; clear , was ^ that after the public , prosecutor had eonciuded his ease and examined his witnesses , tt . e ptisoner was entitled . / . to reply , to have the last word , and might call e-ndence asi- .. tp alibi bir any other . ¦ ¦ fact . in-his favour ;! while the public prosecutor was not able to recaV any witness in . explanation , 1 he hohou ; able gentleman had contrasted the evidence of one person on the trial , who stated that on a particular eveninL a secret meeting bad been held , which evidence tiad been contradicted by ariotlur witness , who stated that he was in the chair on the evening in question , and that the meeting was only an ordinary one , which brpke up at half-past nine ; whereas , if the public prosecutor had been allowed to recal bis
witness , he could have shown that the secret meeting he deposed to took place the ' same even Kg alter the ordinary meeting , which broke up a . t half-past nine . The bon . gentleman had asked under what statute thw trial had been had . The ^ answer ^ was , under no Statute at all—^ ho statute Was mentioned . The hpn . gentleman alsio asked : whether the law respecting combinatien applied to Scotland ? Undoubtedl y , yes ; there was no person who was not liable to punishment for eombinatipn . In England this offence
, if accompanied with violence or menaces , was punished with three months' imprisonment ; in Scotland this ' offence was tried by the justices of the PJ ^ e or the sheriffs . But this was a different case from simple combihationy or of working men casuaily coramitting violence against other working men . T _ hw was a conspiracy formed during a long course of years , a conspiracy seekiiig to accomplish its object by deeds of violence , liysystematiq outrage , and giving alarm to the whole community where it existed to that exti&nt / that , ; besides the ordinary police of the place , it had been found riccessarv tn
* employ an additional force of 100 armed men to keep the peace . According to the lavKof Scotland , a conspiracy ^ as defined by the Act , was one of the most formidable crimes that could exist . ( Hear . ) g TJHS Hon . Gentleman complained of the partial adgaMmatration of justice , and referred to the difference between the course pursued in the present case arid tnat which was adopted in reference to the combinahong and riots between the Roman Catholics and ftotestenta ^ Oii that subject he begged to refer to tfie case ^ which arose out 6 f the riots iu Airdrie in i ^ "Va jL ^ en necessary to ^^ try both ' . . Roman Cattolica and Protestants who had committed riots the Roman Catholics were transported for seven
years , -and the Prptestanisf whose crime was con ^ Sdered greater , -were ^ transported for fourteen years , these were , m . their circumstances ^ tire same cases as that of the Association at Glasgow ; the punishment awarded was not greater , and the persons were of tae same descri ption ias those to whom the Hon . tienfleman had alluded ; He did not think it desirable ^ tp go into all the details of the evidence in this particular case ; but there were one or tWo points to which he felt it his duty to allude . The Hon . Gentleman asked were these five individuals v the president , ^ secretary ,- and the others ^ present on the occasion when the ribts-took place ? Nbi ttiey ' were ' Hot : SO 1 & h «> WntlW rj » . v ^^ that t \ ia r-inma iron n » A'ni . « - ¦¦ — — TT ¦»
.- w ^^— — . J ' ' . »*»^» - ' - - " - * JUO K « CCAVC 14 -was ^ more / leriouai and dangerous , of hiring , maintaining , and directing the individuals whom they excited to riot , than it would have been had they exposed their own persons to the consequences of the grave offences that were ^ committed . ^ ( Cheers . V sTrwiquillity waa much mpre endangered , arid far f */ fe . ter «* wa « jirodHcea , when designing men Jadtheir . plansvand in secret advised and excited Itoir weak and deluded uctijns to cirry them into ejttfcitwn aid expose themselves' to the just vehffeaace-of the law ; ( Cheers . ) There wei ^ e some ^ nor details , . anan ^ out of the adjudicatiori of this ** se , which the Hon . Gentleman had referred to , yuiuu
<« u » uecuma npc pass over , because his doing * o ungW create aa impression unfavourable to ^ the administration of justice in « coffand . The Hon . : ^ tleman spoke ^ of tfie hardship of witnesses for . t ^ e *> ro wn hawng been mprisoned for a considerable ^ nod of tune before trial . : Now the grea t difficulty £ this ease was attributableto the terror / underwhich the witnesses forthp Crown laboured ; ( Hearvhear ;) llie fact was , Aat they themselves had solicited |^ Wi n «» ' ]« i ^ .. . ';<|^^ enM ) pf :: ' : hbBf / | ie «^) piat they should have been confined to brie apartinent « vas a eireamsfeince he regrettedj but that fact would not surpriffi the Heuse when they recollected % &W / croivded ; jhe gadils of Scotland unfortunately w ^ e . Tfcese prisoners . c ^ uld not , ^ unclerthe mcumstjsiicesj be placed in > "better ; sUu ^ on j th ere irere no means of prpviding ; theim ; with : a separateianart ^
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metit . The / present condition of the gaolB was certainly . ; . a crying eyil , which he hoped would be redressed j it was uniyeraallif ^^ acknowledged ^ and he trSsted that the bill- brought in ^/ aurjng ; the-last session of Parlianient would pass in thi 3 , and provide the Crown with the mean ? of disposing' ot tie prisoners properly . The ^ propriety of prosecuting the leaders of these combinations was particularly apparent / when the situation in which the ignorant and distressed were placed b y them Was considered . In such case ? tie ii ^ d rmed ^ b employ , and suffering from . extrieme destitution , were made ; to feel that while they cpnutiittepV crimes they were sure of their regard from those with whom they Uved and / associated ; but if they refused
to be parties to the criminal proceeding ,, or : if : they gave ! information , they were certain / of persecution , and exposed themselves even to the danger of losing their lives ^ ( Cheers ^ Such being the dimculties in theway , " : lbs always felt exteemely uncertain as'to what would be the nature of the evidence that might be given . It wasevident that the prisoners had the means of using an ^^ influence far greater than that which any public prosequtor ^ coiild exercise . ( Hear ^ hear . ) This state of things could riot be disputed , for crimes were committed in CrlasgpW and its neighbourhood sometimes under , coyer of the night and sometimes in the open day , and though large rewards were offered for / -their detection no person
came forward to give evidence . ( Hear , hear . ) It could not be expected that in such cases the eyiderice would always / be ' . . dearand ^^^ overwhelming ; but in this instance a feeling of remorse on the part of many , and ; a desire for the restoration of tranquillity on the part : of others who regretted the violence that had been committed , occasioned them to come forward for the purpose of establishing the facts . If the House ^ thoughtthat theilavrtif Scotland which ^ ^ allowedi the judges to > . award ^ seven years' transportation tob severe—if the House were pf opinion that the power of the law gave to the judges to transport in the one cage / for seven yearaf and in the other -to which he had alluded fourteen years , let the law be altered
but yrhile it existed it must be administered , and the House , he was sure , would support it . —( Cheers . ) The Leaxtied Lord here referred to the case of ponovin , but owing ' -to his occasionally dropping his voice we were unable to hear him . The Learned Lord then proceeded to allude to the cas > of ari individual who had committed an outrage under ; the direction of the association . He was apprehended and brought to trial at Glasgow at the very time that the other trials were going on . He had been previously outlawed What followed P As was frequentl y the case as regarded crimes committed / under the authority bf the asspciation , the man pleaded guilty , thinking it no doubt better to do so . inasmuch as the
offence could be easily proved . Thomas Riddle was the prisoners ^ name . Hx i begged to read to the | House the judgment . Lord Cbckburn . passed upon the prisoner . The Learned Lord read the judgment : — He referred the House to this address , which he believed to be accurately reported , as a \ fair exposition of the opinion of the judges on the subject , ( Hear . ) He ; shpuld not consider it riecessary for him to dwell further on / the details of the law / of this case ^ if it were not that : elsewhere there had been statements made impugning the conduct , nay , attacking in the mpstviolerit terms the conduct of these prosecutions in Scotland . ( Hear , hear . ) It was said elsewhere that these prosecutions had been
conducted in the most bungling manner ; that there had been every sort of blunder committed ; and that in consequence of those ; blunders the trial had . been delayed , and the ini dividuals had been subjected to a long and severe punishment . Hia answer was , not only that the statement was on the whole riot true —( cheers)—but that it was the very- opposite of any thirig approaching to truth . ( Cheers . ) With respect to the ; indictment , his answer was , that lawyers of great ability had it for a long time under their cdnsideration , and the result was that the court unanimously sustained it » Oh what ground did any Noble and Learned Lord , in any
placeicon-, sider himself entitled to assert , without saying what it was , that there was any defect or blunder— oh what ground did he consider himself erititled to make such an assertion , not only against the whole of the authority pf the professional persons who had been ; engaged , but in opposition also-to the authority of the court ? / ( Hear , hearj arid cheers . 1 It was npt a little extrordiriary even if there hsd beefl mistakea ^ if in a case of such great weight there had been some oversight ; it was riot novel with those who had belonged to the professiou of the law to talk in that tone and with that feeling of the proceedings ; but when there was no foundation whatever for the remarks , when it was quite cleiir that there
was none , it was extraordiriary that any individual who had filled a hi gh legal station for y ^ arfwitb . horioMr and credit should make ; a statenient , not only reflecting bu lawyers pf the highest eminence , but even without the least foundationi in pointof fact . ( Cheers . ) The statement was , that the trial had been delayed . Now , before the trial came on and before its result could be known , he bad explained thit the reason why the trial had been delayed wa $ , that-. thei public prosecutor-had ' receiyed somerfriesb information ;• . " . Arid was he riot justified in obtaining all the important information that hecould ? He entered the court with the belief that the trial would come on , but after the argumerit of counsel accounts from Glasgow were received from the sheriff , stating that some important documents , which
before it / had been impossible to recover , had been obtained , with other importance " evidence , and it was left to him tb say whether the trial should go on or not . Now / in a case of this sort , in which murder had been committed , would any public prosecutor have hesitated tb delay the trial , in prder to avail himself of the fresh evidence ? ( Hear , hear . ) He desired the sheriff / to pursue his enquiries , Which he did , though wifh the greatest -difficulty .-- ' He could not see the witnesses , except by stealttij without exppging them to the persecution ' of the Associatiop and was it ; to be told in jthe high places that-th : s trial was delayed in order to recover blunderB arid errors : blunders arid errors that existed nowhere but m the fancy of the Noble and Learned Lord who thought proper to make that statement ? ( Cheers ^
He supposed that the Noble and Learned Lord could not be avrare that he had stated the ground on which the trial had been delayed , because he could not imagjne shat if he had been aware of that statemerit he would h ^ ve made the observations he did in reference to a person whom that Nbble and Learned Lord had known : for fpTty years , whose character , however inferior it was for talent and ability , had at least ^^ beenribtless distinguished for ^ ^ straightfpfvirard conduct and yefacify than even that of the Nohle arid Learned Lord himself , honourable ag he believed himself to be j- ' ifetit' in that humble arid low
attiibute to which all men might lay claim he thought he was riot guilty of any remarkable presumption in saying that he considered himself his equal . Cheers / . Sir / E , SUGDEN said that he had looked through the evidence with a judicial eye , and if the Hpnoutable Mennber for Finsbury had persisted : in his motion for an address to her Majesty , to mitigate the sentence of the parties , he should have felt it his dutyto give that motion a negative . He cbrisidered the pffericepf which they had beeri speaking , to be of greater : enormity than alriiosi any other pf which a man could be guilty . / i . /
M r > , 0 'CONNELL said he | as well as thilearned , gentleman who had jus * sat dpwn , had read the evidence with great attention , and felt that iit gave them np right to impeach the conduct of either the bench , the jury , or the prosecution . He thought his Hon . Friend was right in ; not pressing his motion for a mitigation of punidriroent ; He did not see that ther ^ . was any fair ground stated for an inquiry into the Glasgow case in particular ; but if the sys-, tem which had been ^ so properly denourieed prevailed more exteiisiv > ly-4 f combinatiori ^ not only illegal , but despotic and tyrannical , existedJn any part of the empire , it was the duty of the House , to-give protection to the labourer , so as to enable him to had
dispose of his ^ labour ^^ fteely . He ^^ feltTit to ^ be his duty , andhe feltit to be a ^ mbat painful : orie . taitake an active part in the riiatter , arid < thi 8 at ttie figk' of a ^ at- de ^ of his popul arity , ¦ ( Ch ^^ m ? ° lpS spr « f cpurte , been misrepresefatea ;;¦ ¦ and "he availed himself of the ojppor turii ty of statiri g what hw / pbjects , were // He was quiter iiphtent witb : Mr . Hume's ^ Act ^ arid was extremel y " anxibud ^ that Ae labouring classes should haveZtixe full ! ! ben $ fit of ft . It repeajied an unjrigt law ; iridhe did iipt wiaH for anymore lawj certainly , than : '< Rr ' a 8 . ' . tu ' -M . fouqd in Mr . Hume's Act . / ( Laughter ^ It allowed cpmmnation to every class of workmen , They ^ could combine and agree together to obtairi more wages than they had before , or to prevent their wages from being lowered . It was fair for them to Combine for such purposes . This they could do for themselves ; but theimbment they attempted to cberceothersi the of
moment that they carried t ^ e effect their c'dmbinar tion to any © they indiyiduals , jhat iris'tant crime oommericed , and they were' not only j guilty of a , crime in the eye ot the law i but ^ ls b / of ^ mor ^ lcri f rie , and they inflicted a robbery upon otherf . U | Hear ^) The ; Henourable Member for t'insbury aopttkeA , £ o think that ^*^ p ncf / whl « 3 i h ^ d l ^ eu passed wua coij ^ rBdiCtory tb" the art pf PMbiment , for Sdvihg ' reaa th «^ p ? rticmars which jrei * not indnded vrithin legal combmationi' Ae Honourable Member said that ^ the . puawhmentfor anr of thtae offences was only three moutba '' impriaotunent . i '; The Hoaui ^ Rible Member had not read the act with the eye-of a Ltwyer .. The cninea were made so puniBbatlehy a summary procefldhy the 7-tn section j but t }> e j ^ egMlatjire , in allowing summary process before magistrates , only limited the punishment t-j pc-
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sons /' beingicoln ^ a' thereof m ^ i ^ M ^^ E aeciae , and where the sommaxypibeeapi Waa permitted . fffi » ptmishment wasnot'M esje ^ ei tttfel . njoiiltf ^ jaifcri ^ ment tut where . there was ^ ninaictment for a cangp ^ y ^ S ££ 7 ° ^ W ^ 4 ^ <« aJ «^ « n * tMy , b 6 ttt mBngliS and toeland ; and if a eonylstion toojc daw s nxncbTtenBer ir ^^ n ^ ortafaon conld be . imjoaed . , . There was , then , rS mlahonot ^ theactoivtlie convfttion ^^ fliat haa taien ^ te The Hononrnble and Learned ^ fleman . flieiv . went iito ^ «^ a ^ sasEffi * agBSt ^ s a ?^«^ BS « aBSffia ^ » , . ^* . §»™* awj ^ aesmen did not with . tfcKrt hands commit these murders . v « t Am tUM * v ^ u \ ZSncZH
«* ekout ^ ^ of thair y ^ t ° rte ^ ti ^ Z % ^ fi he vpwfuUy ableta ^ ve : InCoi * ^ tlrm ^ ffiS ^ years , no less than thtftyi «* W * per « 6 n *^^ hai * een bnrnt ^ A vitnol bo as to lose their eye « , while in DnbKn lour Mimfa . had been oommitted . befoft ? therepeal of : ^ ^ ibje wsttWnatto ^^ ana three more recently , ftere were ^ ^ daily outeiges , ^ # & he wonldask , committed flieaeoutasaea * ' He fought ieQ made ont a strong case forlinquiry- ^ f he had nottoade ovil case satwfactor % he wonia refer to . statement made by the merchants of ^ DuWm , whieh was of •* terrifie nMnre . v ^ Honourable and teamed llember read certain : ^ lutiona p araed ata neetingof the ^ merchauta of Dublin ; denouncjaa in Bbrong terms Ulegal ^ bmbinatibns , and setting forth , many of the ^ regulations of the !^ ^ combinatora which w « ire in dirwi violation of thelaw of the ; land . ^ : ¦¦' - - - ™ " y * ^ a ^ 9 ti « s « on > ppea )( ed to him to be whether theinqiury should be extended to Grjat . Bdtain , or confined to Ireland ? tie claimed that it should be extended to Great Britam , an 4 in
cam ^ and a proclamation which had lately / issued fioid the ^ Dmomsta of Oat towrl , he ( Mr . CConnell ) wa » called tb * deadly enemy ^ f ^ tradesmani ^^ and the tradesmen . " of DubSa were told that until they T rfd themselves of bim . fliey conli never obtain their sopial rights , that with hinr they were art sate , but that without him they would b « able successfully to struggle ^ for . their iriahts . / This seemed veiy much Kke anmvitation t « make short work of hik * Mr ., O'Conhell , > but hedid not thmk that such could / n *^ m the mtenten ! liOOKy agam ^ at the murder of Smith , m < 31 aeaow , one of the chief towns in moraland eaucated ScotlanO Waffit trueiw H ^^ t ' *^^* ^ ' ?^^^ ' ^ . ™^ , ' ^^ - *^ late trial ? Were not thejfacts of a nature imperatively to w ^^ Batww tfaetoi ^ i ^ nfe lanai" Had thay : not read in the newspapers of the week tonguage applied to the poor faw * 6 f a most dreadful natwe ? Had not the measnre on that Bubiect been mia l enrMM > b > A in
even possaie way , m order to inflarae ^^ the minas « f theneoj . V \ l , AttlleiBeeting held at Manchester , en Monday Uke' 5 th of rebruary , delegated . ftomforty-ewSt place * aitesded amongst o flwrs fromBolton , Macae ^ a , &iK 5 : ' LivaW , w ^"' fiM * !?' ^^ ''« j ) dq ^ . ^ Brii « J { tten . >'' - ^ le Huddersfield , Ac . The Rev . Mr * StepienaspbtemMa strain — "If thw b ^ l were est » b KsbMit > hSnUWeye for . eye , tooth for tooth , wife for wife , child to ibildi man for man , ad blood for blood , so helpI . nun . doo . * At ? tockport ; onTuesa ^ February , 6 , ; 1838 , the Rev . Mr . Stephens figured again , and in . concluding a sjeech-oa the same subject said : — « A man whom he h « d never seen b > rore toUhmi he had come from an . agricultural district ^ and that rather than be separated fromhxs wife he had ^ iepareda knife forthe pa rtttawHo made the separation . He hadcome into this district to obtainwork and havmg done so , hff had a kniTe ready for any Guardiai who should attempt to separate his wife from him . This w »
tne universal feeungof the district ; and although he did not coincide with it , it was sufficient to show the law would not be submitted to . " : Mr . Pastier followedin like spirit ;— "fife knew that hunger and insult would produce efiwtsmore oppressive and awful to certam individuals ^ than / even the Commissioners- conduct had been / to the people . ( Loud cikeers > He knewvthat the assassin's knife Would be used . ( Cheers . V At Rochdale the Rev , Mi . Stephen , said , » If it were right ti c ? n 5 « : sitethe propert y of the people , hy abrogating the 43 rd of iSuzabeth , it would be right to confiscate , the property « t Rochdale , and it is right if the law of Elisabeth is to be destroyedf it is right for the poor to takea . dagger in one Sant ?? ¦ S SJS ? * te other , and do : the best for themsefcei ! . . ' Mr . . > . O'Connor aDuded to the " archfiend Mr . O'Connelf ( A laugh . ) Every allnnidn to Mr . O'Connell at thi » meetiwt wj 1 * received with loud disapprobation . Several called xntt that Mr . 0 Connell ought to be shot . Mr . Oastler said—« I tell you , Churchmen and Diasenfeni . befor « I worilfl mhmit
to such an act I would set the whole kingdom ii . a bla * : I am no mcendiary ( a laugh ) , ' but I have affectionat my heart IamAvdhng to work , and should not blush to asfc forpariak |> ay ; but if lain told I should not receive it ' imless * consent to be separated from my wife , I would ; if I Were ; hanged for it , kUl him onthe spot ? ' These were Buecimentbf the language held out to the working' people : of this country and of tjcotland—the kntfe , the torch , and the dagger were the weapons recommended ; and the Rev , Mr . Stephens said at Glasf ow that he would involve the whole country in a flame before e . sufiered this act to ceme into operation ; If this state of things was . proved in England and in Scotland , was it not desurable than an inquiry should be instituted to ascertain the extent to . which it had gone not oily in Great Britain btit m Irebjnd also , ? ( Hear ^ hear . ) Md he ( Mr . O'Cdnnell ) watt to reenact the laws againstepmbinations ? . No ; he desired n « such thing , for some combinations Were not onlv tuunules *
butrnientonoua ; and he wished to separate omona of thi * KiEd from those of a pernicious ^ character . He ' ^^ did not care for being _ called the enemy of the working classes ,-whilst he felt t > atLsned in his own conscience that he was acting as their nestJnend . He had not yielded to the taunts ¦ and malignity of vthe Arutqcracy when he thought that he wasin the nght , and he should certainly not now giye way to the working classes upon a point in which he considered that they were decidedly in error . ( Cheers . ) It had been reported of him that he intended only to direct his observations against the working men , and to exclude their employers from inquiry Such was . not his intention , as was clearly proved by the terms of his notice on the paper ; his object was to make the inqun-y as ^ complete and searching as possibte , and to bring it home to all parties : Witli these observations , and thanking the House for the indulgence it had extended to him on thfi occasion , he should conclude bv movinsr the amendment nf
which he had gives notice , namely , "That a select committee be appointed to inquire into the origin , nature , and extent if trades umona or combinations of workmen or ejnployew of , workmen in the United Kingdom , and the' tendency of such unions or combinations to afiect the free distribution of wages , labour , and employment ; and also , their tendency . " to inouce tuccomnnssion of outragesagainat persons and property , and the perpetratibn of murder ; and also to'report such ; suggest tions for improvement in the existing laws against ffleg « l combinations ^ or societies aa they ma / deemrequisitei" - ' . rhe CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said , that berore the motion was put he begged in-the unavoidable absence of his Nobl ? Friendthe Secretary for the Home Department , to state the course which her Majesty ' s tGovernment intended to recommend on this subject . 'He should fee iriost reluctant to offer this recommendation ^ if ^ he did not ^ think it was likely to meet with the general approbationi-of the ^^ House , and consonant with thetendr of thBirreaternirt of tKe /> hRi » r-
vations which had ' been made this evening j because'if ev « there , was a question upon which it was desirable that the pountryshould , » be that the whole House of Commons was determined to adopt a clear and undeviating course , not for the advancement of the interests oi' any . one class whatevef , but ot the wholecommurdty ingeneraly it was thatwhich wa » now before them . At the same time he could not flatter himselt that his proposition , ' though assented to by the majoritj » of the House , would he likely to meet witix the : approval of the Honourable Member for Finsbury ;; for never wa » therea motion made from which he more entirely dissented than that which that Honourable Member had' &at eVehing made . When the honourable Member : pTopoBed ' that they should should appbmt a select committee to inquire into the case of these ^ cotton spinners , after the able exposition of it which they had ju ^ t heard from the Lord Advocate , with a view to ? ?* I 9 «> 8- * h « judaonent which had been tiassed uMn those
nidividuate , he trusted that a very small : majbrit / Vould be ¦ found wilhng to support such a motitm . The Honourable , Member's motion ^ proposed that a select committee should \» appointedto mquire , not into th . e existence of comliinationi generally , but of / the Glasgow Cotton ¦ Spinners' Society in particular ; and &e second resolution clearly contemplated that the persons who had been cdndeiiinea' to ^ ^ ^ transportation should be detained in this country to awaU ihe . result of that inquiry . He ( the Chancellor of the Exchequer ) thotiahttliat : no one who had heard theebserratibn- of the Learned Lord advocate could doubt for one instant the necessity far inquiry into this subjeet ; and that in amanner not directed : against any one ^ party exclusively , hut ^^ ujbn . . . the ' whole bearng of the guestipn , as it affected mastera aa well as men ; in short , in the lull and comprehensive view which had been stated by the Hon . / and Learned Gentlemen who had just > at down . He ' should , therefore . Ttronose a motion ^^ to the follnwiiiir effect .
whichv if it appeared to meet the object Which the Boiu and Learned Member had in view , the Honourable and Gentleman wonld consent rto being' substituted for that which he had just read to the House . The motion whick he shouldpropose . wasj ' That a select committeebc : attainted to inquire into the operation of the act of th& 6 th ( & > . IV . j and generall y into the constitution , ptaecctogsv and extent ' of any tmdes' unions « t combinations- of etoptoyere oi wotkinen in GreatBritain and Ireland . " iiwa ^ hwhlyimpbrbuit that on a question which affected ^ equally thei-great ; commercial interests pf both counteies that the inquiry should be a common and extenHiye one . -He should state that it was nbf the ob ject of hw Noble Friend the Minister for the Horn * department , ^ m framing his proposition ,, to commit any wrong upon the working classes—to impose any fetters or diaabihtie *; upon them ^ -rbuton the ;; contrary ,, to protect them inthrat just interests , and in the free use of their natural powers and aouines
; ana- lt . thete . were any two countries in which the object was most desirable to be attained , it wan in Great Britaui i where the advanceinentof practical and mehanicalskol was graduaUy-deyek ^ mtf itselfj and in Irelahdi whose capital yaB ) ierlabour ,. . He could not sit d <* wn- without expressinf bos high ^ Bense / prthe ^^ uaeful ant important effort' which the Hon . and Learned'Membeir for Dublin had made on this siibject T-m domg ' whkihhe had saerificedaa personal consider * tl 0 . ? t andnobtybrayed all risks of sacrffielng that popul » rjt ) f whit ^ hehad , » olong enjoyed •« th « pcpolMJeaaer of h » countiymen—prefemnff his _ public duty to % ll inditiduaV coosidersj ^ priBi ; , i ^^ morpjgpienoia- ' example of public integrity a » l ; firmnm hsta ^ itev * : he believed ; been displayed , and couW not faflpf © jmmandlng the esteem of men ' of all-parties wlw witnessiBatit ; v ( Cheers . ) For bis own part , lie f the Chancellor of the , Bxchequer ) knew ^ that tue , ton # rt feeling of 01 ¦ luouewho oinerea
^ 7 /™^^*^^ , - "* rr"j ; - **•¦ ** s »""« i - ywu ; - u « pohtics _« ith Jh , e , Hon . and Learned . ^ Ceri ^^ coraially »» - ported . nun \ lrfthVcoiirse of which he ^ nidi ; idopted on tlpr subject ^ jnd'he nnnly tfelieved' and trusted ' that he would "i ^^ as ge&wfe ji * andheaftya ^^ coritnKrtee byhonoi * aoie gentlemen of aU parties in this House . : ( Cheers . ) Witk ; ^ eff r * ^ ' & *; && * B ^ tefeprispnei 8 ih £ i { th « ChanceBor of the ^ cheijuer ) -skQuldriotataU enter . into it now , after ; the able manner in which the 'Lbra Advocate Tjad , stated tfo case v at the same time triumphantly repeuina the attatto wh ^^ adj . b ^ : d ? iiponrnwi : m , 'h ^ 8 * wi » ee ( Hear , hear . ) . ¦' . - ,: , ;¦ - . ; - ; . ' .... , ;¦ . ¦; .. ¦' ¦ . ¦ ; ¦ . ' . ¦ ¦ - . .. . ' - . " . - ¦¦ . ' ¦' . - . ' ^ ' O ! CONNELLJ said : ( bit after tha ^ hsmations of tie Chancellor of ' the Excheqtfcf he" should certainly witodraf hu amendment in' -favour of that-6 f h 9 r ^ Majesty ' s Government . ' ' •/¦¦ - . -:. ' . ;¦ -.. ; ..: ¦ . ¦ - ¦'• - ¦ - ¦ ' ¦ ' '/ . ; ¦ ' ¦ ¦ - ¦ . ¦ . ' ¦ . ¦ . ¦¦ ; :. / :- :: ' .- ' \ .- ~ ,.. - ~ -j-: ¦ - Mr . ljHUMB supported " the Goveniinent ineamre wtfLai 4 no doubt that th » : inquiry would prove the working . cla » se » t » hivebeen misrepresented ., I ! V ; " ? ' 4 " ' -T - - ¦
; Mr . HARVEY said , he certainly preferred the . amendment of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to thn original motion , be / ausc it was more general , and . *'* embraced combination amoftgst mauteraaB WeC as those amongst workmen . At'the salme' time , however , ho must . » ay toat'the' amendment itself . appeared t ^ bim to h ? too rmrrbwi ififlje dbfect whic » the House had in yjew was to inquire into all the causes which had ^ eneritedlthefie disastrous ancL ^ in some case « , criminal Wsulte , which they all so , deplored' He thoug ht it was deairaWfr to indude i * the inquiry W eikMtt laws Win * restricted therree « ehanisr | B-irf th « afednc * «{ Wworktog man ' s labour atithe . most advantageoua market , and among * these ;« nactmeaU ,-hei dwnld decidedly be for incWdiwtW laws hear
com ^ mear , , . heart and a / laugh from the oroo » sition . X He should at aproper time move , as " an instrucnos t ^ the Committe e , that there ^ hdnld be a irenaal inouirr into i ^ J ^^^^ J ^^} ih ^ eeorhA < m ¦<¦ ¦ ' -. i ' * 1 ' ^^ *„• *>^^ Q » W . WlfNN , ^ and Sir . 'SLANBY supported th * Government mofipii . : :- .: ¦ The motion of , the Chancellor of the EXCHEQUER fi > r Select Committecvfwa *; then agreed to , an d Hfynii ordered that the * Committee should benominated' on Thursaay . ' The custody of Tnsanie Persons' Bill wisread a third time anapaSaed .:.-:- / . ' ; . ;' -- . . ^ . ' ; . ' . ;> .- : .. > ivy ¦ .. ;> ; - . - ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦¦ ¦ :.. r / - \ ' . ; . ¦ , ¦ -,= ' . ' " ' . ' ¦ . "'' . ¦ . -A New Writ wa « orfere ^ - for B . idgenorth , in rpom of Mr . - Hanjjuby TBApfi ; , who had accepted ^ Cflfltcrn H » dreds ;/¦/ . /¦ .- , : ¦ v ~ , .- /^/ " / / ' ¦' ' ; ..-: ' ¦'¦ , ; ; ¦; ' •; '¦ \ -: ^~ . ' ¦ 'And ^ the Hcuse adjcurcea / " ; : " . / " : . ' ¦ ¦ '"' ' : . ' ' " '¦ :- ' ¦
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Northern Star (1837-1852), Feb. 17, 1838, page 4, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct993/page/4/
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