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THE FACTORIES BILL . A . meeting of members of Parliament and gentV ss « a connected wi-h the manufacturing . ^ t nets wis h-Jd on Tuesday , M * y 9 , » t the British Hotel , eckspur-street , London , for the purpose otheanne th-j opinions of millowners , with reference to the Factories Bill now before Pwlament . From 7 C to 80 worsens assembled , amor g who we recosmsed the & 2 ^ M 552 « of Parliament :- _ Mr Ain . worth , iSlr Bro ^ ehnrst , Mr . W . T . Ererton , Mr . Fielden , Jfr wS , FieSS Mr . Ferrand , Mr . Greenall , Mr . W ' Wardy Mr . Hindley , General Johnson . Sir John Xf JSKBtrt , W . S-LaseeUe ^ Mr . J . W . Patten , Mr Stratt , Mr . Scansfield , Sir George Strickland , Sari ., Mr . To ! lem * che , Mr . Walker , Mr . Wilbrah » n , and Mr . Grimsditch . , _ ,, ^ ; _ On the motion of Mr . Hardy , M . P ., the Hon John Stnarr Wortley , M . P ., was called to the chair .
The Chaixjiax said , he considered it his duty at once to acquiese in the propo =-al thai he should take the chair , inasmuch aa there was no objection made to it . A 3 he had been called unexpectedly to that po = ition . it would not become him to offer observations open ih * nature of the meeting other than to eay , that he trusted he should be of use in conducting the busi-Be ? s for which they were assembled . ( Cheers . ) He vns sorry that he was caUtd tff-oceupj the chair &s a substitute for his friend , Mr . Wm . Beckett , whose name wood at the head of the circular which has been
issued , and was to haTe presided , but who was now j so unwtll as to be unable to attend ; he held in his hand a rote from Mr . Beckett , expressing hi ? disappointment it being unable to be present , as be was ; anxious to hear the opinion of the Factory . masters upon the provisions of the Factories' Bill . Having said so much with respect to the circum- ! stances in which he stood , he thought it would be j more conducive to the business of . the day , if he j should leave the further proceedings in the bands of < ihose who h&d devoted thsir time and trouble to con- j
YeaiBg thi ? meeting ; they would know better than j he how to lay the business before them , and he could only say , so lar as he was concerned , that if it should j be in his power to lend any assistance towards the main i object of tie meeting , or to take any step which < should tend to the satisfactory settlement of this most important question of the honrs of labour of ' young persons , it would afford him the highest satis- j faction to do so . j Mr . Wx . Ka >~ d , of Bradford . Yoikfibire , said he [
busted in tha first place be should be permitted , as a ; factory msitat , -who had long taken a deep interest in the subject of f jctory legislation , to thank those mem- : ben of Parliament who bad convened Lfeia meeting , and ; for intitmg mt-aiberB cenntcttd ¦ with those counties where manufactures where carried on , and for inviting factory gentlenirn who were more immediately connected with any measure , for the legislation of factories —( hear . ) He trusted tbat he bad too deep a se-. se of propriety , and wl » too well aware of his own JEc ^ mpcteney to dxag the meeting through vbe history ol factory legislation . There had been no fever than seven or eight factory blLU , and as many abortive attempts at improving these bU « . and be thought that hitherto fact alone would prove that factory legislation had not been
satisfactory . He thought the present meeting offered the finest prospect f *> t & s&tufactoiy settlement of thia question , that had t'a yet presented itself . He wm More that the object if the { xoYernment could only be to pass a bill which ahi nld be heartily co-operated in by the factory masters who would assist the Government in carrying it out in all its provisions ; and be was sure such & measure could only be accomplished with the ajHrintaTTTft and advice of practical hi en ; and he trusted £ be issue of this meetirg would be the adoption of a law by the Government ef this country , which should be a blessing to the factory districts . " With these lew remarks he would express bis opinion that the present bill before the H * use of Commens , bore the character and wocld share the fate of all
its predecessors . It would be an unsatisfactory bill . He had come to that conclusion after carefally reading it over ; asd be cow came to express the reasons which bad led him to that conclusion . The object of the bill was the regulation of the employment of children and young persona in factories , and for the better education of children in the factories . In order to effect this object the bill divided the work people into classes ; the first class comprising those from eight to thirteen years 61 age , and the recsod cla * a these from thirteen to eighteen as affected males , and ' thirteen to twenty-one as ificcted females . The first class was to votk half time , er six hours a day ; the second class was to work twelve hours actual liboui per day . The first class was to go to school a certain number of hoars
m each day during their employment—not when they were unemployed—they were required to brine certificates from the schoolmaster of fcaviDg eompliel with this regulation , and unless they tfid so they could not return to work on the following Monday . It appeared to him that this was in itself tn enactment which ¦ wenld "very Berio-osly tend to toe non-emplojmfcct o ! those children . It was bis firm conviction that ttat enactment , coupled with many othtrs which he would not now enumerate , was enough to ensure thtir nonearployment . He held in his hand a paper sigr . e > : R . H . Gregg , the Chairman of the Association of Millowners in Manchester , stating that snch were the pains and penalties attached to that bill with regard to the employment of children , that it was their opinion that
such as they would sot be employed at all . Then he ( Mr . Band ) would a * k if they were sot employed at all , if the expenee of their education were to be provided for out of their wages as the Bill enacted , bow were they tc obtain education at all ? He for his own part would say hat there was no possibility of education unless there was a possibility of employment , and there was no possibility of employment coupled with these vexations enactments . He thonsht then the issse as regarded that class would be total idleness np to 13 , coupled with ignorance ; asd he would ask Hon . Member * in that room whether the state of society in Manchester , Glasgow , and Yorkshire , would sot present an aw ' nl picture -with all the population up to 13 unemployed and uneducated ? It was the nature of lads if they were not
doing well to be doing ill ; he thought there could not be a greater curse inflicted on them than that of dooming them to idleness . { Hear , hear . ) He bad written to one of the junior partners in bis own concern to know what bad been the operation of the relay system , and he had replied that three-fourths of the children under 13 had been dismissed ; and that he was looking oat for sab * stitutee for the remaining one-fourth . ( Hear , bear . ) If snch were tbe case in his neighbourhood , what was the case in Glasgow ? Mr . Gregg said he would call attention to the fact that since the introduction of the Act creating the system of working by relays , the children under thirteen years of age had been almost til dismissed , in G 2 ssgowhe believednone ( the word " nont ' underlined ) T » ere employed under that age , and very few
in other parts cf Scotland , [ bear , bear , ) and the two factory Gistricts of England of Mr . Horner and Mr . Saanders tbe cnmbei had fallen from 3 S . 941 in 1835 , to 24 , 000 and odd in 1 S 39 , and in Mr . Homer ' s district it bad Mien from 11 000 to 7 , 000 since then . iHear ) They had not been able to obtain returns from the other districts , bet the reduction in their numbers was in every district Tery grezi . The almost certain operation of t « e present bill , be did not hesitate to say , would be the ¦ withdrawal of ch \ V . T * n altogether from well-regulated mills , and their total deprivation of employment . The mere matter of a reduction in tbe wages -would offer no Inducement eitktr to the parent to send them or the master to employ them , compared with the Severe regnlatiocs to which tLsy rendered tkemselves liable by
employing them ; and Parliament would find itself in the course of a year or two in the predicament of having passed a law providing for the regulation of a class of children which the law would have thrown cut of the sphere of labour— -. hear , hear ; . And yet after that Statement had b ? en made kno * n they said ttey would be able to cenctde that pirt sf the bill ; they said " We don't wish to employ children younger Usan nice ; or from nine to thirteen more than six' and half hsurs . " They did concede them ; but hnxr J J >" &t by adopting them , bnt by rejecting them . They said they would not employ them- TV as that the kind of concession the Government wanted ? Non-employment and non-instrnction . Or was it that the Government sought to improve tbe minds and morals of that class ? He ( Mr .
Band ) begged to sa ? that the effect of this law -would be ignorance and idleness np to thirteen . That was a spectacle for Members of Parliament to look at ! Was it not enongh to £ 11 the mind cf every reflating man with alarm ; . ow , and even every ucrtfiecting mind with alarm by and bye ? "What was ifce prospect -with regard to the second class—they ve : e to work twelve hours a day actual labour , independent cf the time for meals and going to and returning from work . He would ask any gentleman in thtt room : f he could lay his hand upon his heart and see a population uneducated and nninstructed up to tie age of thirteen then taken to labour of thai duration ; he wculd asi if that would not perpetuate igncrarce np to twenty-oie ? He said that would be the inevitable rercit : the first class
would be disqualified from education for -want of employment , and the second class for want of tizie ^—; Loud cheers ) . His intention was not to appeal to the feelings of any gentleman , but to his common Eense , and he would say that the issne of this Bill would be , in a few words , np to thirteen , ignorance and idleness combined , op to twenty-one excessive toil and no instruction . If that , then , were the inevitable result of this bill , he ¦ would ask if it was one which ought to pass . He said it ought not t » pass , but he should not be performing bis dnty in coming to London to point out the defects of thisbillif he did not alto point out a plan which appeared to him to be deserving of attention . He had thought tl a plan , and he would give his reasons in support ol it He did not mean to say that his was tLe only pfcn that would be beneficial ; he was open to
eosmetion on the matter , and he trusted he tionld never obstinately adhere to toy particular nostrum of bis own—( hew , hear ) . But , now , suppose for a mcrnt-nt that the relay system were adopted , what would be the « 4 of it ? Why they would bring up to a calling twie * the number cf persons who &t the age of thirteen could find employment at it If in his own establish ment be bad fifty relay children , when they arrived at the age of thirteen be could but employ twenty-five of them , and be wauld have to torn adrift tbe other twenty-five , who would art as an incubus upon the labour market for tbe remainder of their days , pressing npon those employed towards reducing their wages . Such would be the effect of the relay system , and so he bad come to the conclusion that the relay system , if ozried out , would be productive of most serious and
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disastrous censequences—( hear , hear * . And if it were cot carried out the children would have no education . How then could they escape the two results of these two systems ? He would now beg to state the plan \ which would meet his own views . He thought that a ! proper Factory Bill should embrace the following | points , and no others . It should embrace the age of i admission into the mills ; the duration of labour in tbe \ mills -, it should provide for the time for meals within j tbe mills ; for protection from exposed and dangerons ! machinery , under the judgment of practical men to say what wai so , —not of every factory inspector , but of practical men ; also provide for the washing and proper attention to the cleanliness of the establishment ; it should be short , simple , and practical —( bear , h « ar )—
one of which labour should not be so contracted as to I be worthless to the employer , ner too long , so as to I interfere with the moral and physical welfare of the i parties engaged . Those were the three great points , and he thought it desirable that labour should be uniform in its duration . Having regard to these points then , not forcing upon patties toil which they were unable to sustain , or labour so contracted as to be of no advantage to the employer , be had come to the conclusion that tbe best age of admission into the mills i was at the age of ten years—( bear ) . —he mentioned ten | because the whole amount of medical evidence proved [ that at that age , with proper intervals for meals , they I could enter the mills , if the labour were not too long continued : and be recommended that they should not
labour more than ten hours actual labour per day , for the whole of the mill workers up to tbe age of twentyone yean ; after that age they were placad beyond the limits of legislative Interference , they -were adults and free agents ; but whilst they were not free agents , and and whilst others might contract for tbem , he , for one , would not consent to subject them to a toil which must in after years raise a spirit of hostility against their friends and masters , who made them do it—( hear . ) He would recommend , then , that they should enter tbe mills at ten years of age , and work ten hours a day , and that was a length of labour which , be thought , was compatible with some little improvement in evening schools^—ihear . ) It might b » objected that these parties would not go to these schools , but be thought th « y would . He knew that after woikint twelve hours a day , the
children went to Sunday Schools every Sabbath ; he feared it was indeed a remarkable circumstance , but such were the habits of the young people , that they voluDtarily went to school upon the Sunday , Ujough they had no recreation during the wetk ; taking tnis into consideration , he did think that with ten hours labour , they would , to some extent , attend evening Schools . ( Hear . ) He might perhaps be asked what he proposed with regard to education ; he would own that to be & mos > t difficult subject , a subject fur the gentlemen to consider , and not for the factory masters , but he thought they were bonnd so to conduct their establishments as not ti > deprive them of tbe opportunity of learning something , and he tfeongbt that employing tbe children but tan hours a day , leaving off work at six , would go far towards attaining that great desideratum . ( Cheers . ) He concluded by submitting the following suggestions for the approval of the ineet'ng : —
Proposition 1 st—That the Factories' Bill now before the House of Commons proposes for all children from eight to thirteen years of age , enactments which have a direct tendency to prevent theiR / rom obtaining employment ; and as the Bill provides that the education of tkese parties shall be paid for out ef their wages , they will conatqnentiy be left without the means of acquiring that highly important advantage . 2 nd . —That the system of relays proposed by this Bill would , if carried cut , bite the effect of bringing np to factory labour double the number of persons who , at the age of thirteen , -would be aile to find employment in factories . That it would also tend to draw numbers into the manufacturing districts where the population is already too large to find employment , and would thus have an injurious effect upon the wages of labour .
3 rd . —That the-proposed period of twelve honrs daily labour iexclusive of time for meals , ) for all persona from thirteen to twenty-one years of age , especially as most of them are females , is more than is consistent with their moral and physical welfare , and with the proper performance of domestic duties . ith—That any measure for the regulation of the labour ef young persons in factories , thould provide for such labour being tf uni / orvi duration , and not by relays . That the hours of labour should not be so abridged as to prtvent a reasonable expectation of employment , nor id rcnrided as to interfere with the physical and moral welfoT 6 of the workers .
That having due regard to these important considerations , it is desirable that no child should be admitted into the factory under ten years of age—that tbe hours vi daily labour for all persons above ten , and under twenty-one should be ten , exclusive of two hours for meals at proper intervals—and that their labour should cease at six o ' clock in the evening . That , by this amv . gement , parents niight , to Boroe extent , avail themselves of evening schools for the workers , and it would also allow all children under ten years of age to have the full benefit of education by any general plan -which tbe Government may provide ; but ¦ with the Bill now before the House of Commons , those under thirteen -would be thrown out of employment , and those above thirteen would have no time for initruction .
Mr . Mosris , of Halifax , wished to ask whether it ws » intended to work ten hours a day during six days of the week , cr whether they should wcrk £ horter hours on Saturdays as now . Mr . Ka > d said bis idea was that they should close opon Saturdays as the bill specified , that was at half-past lour . Mr . Morbis waff asked whether Mr . Rand meant that no sysUm of relays would be ustfni , or that it was tte changes that made the present system bad . Mr . RaM > said the various enactments coupled with the children were of such a character , that masters wou ! d not be troubled with them at alL
Mr . Wm . Bsook , of Hnddmfleld , would wish to at > k the object for which tbe meeting bad been convened . Was it for the purpose of obtaining information , or was it with a view that gentlemen of the House of Commons might be asked to support any plan which might be agreed on ? If so , in his bumble opinion , they were goiDg to dispose of a question of the last importance to this country , as a . manufactarina nation , in a very haBty manner ; and be submitted that it was a question which ought not tn be disposed of in such a manner . The Chairhan said so far as be could answer , he should say tue object of the meeting was to consider the question in agitation with respect to tbe hours of labour , with the view of ascertaining how far the stnments and experience of the gentlemen present should concur with any proposition for tbe amendment of the regulations affecting labour in factories . ( He * r . )
Mr . Ka > 'd remarked that the circular pointed cut tbe object of tbe meeting ; they had not met to carry anything , but simply to ascertain what would be the must practica' measure , and lay the result of ths meeting before the Government He thought the Factories ' BUI originated in a far more limited and obscure source thin that meeting , for he did not know a single soul tL : approved of it . Mr . Fielden , M . P ., said , being of those whose n-i ^ es were attached to the circular , he felt called upon to * ¦ . te his reasons for affixing hia name- Mr . Rand and . Mr . Walker , who bad been down in town calling upon Members of Parliament , called upon him and proposed -bat this meeting Bhould be held . The objections of Mr . Brook , be thought , might be answered very
shortly ; he proposed that a committee of the House of Commoi s should decide -what waa proper to be done . He itiust know thas committee after committee of the House oi Commons had been appointed to no avail . They had . committee in 1840 , -when the factory clauses were aiscu .-oed seriatim ; aud a report waa laid before the House . The fac . ory owners of Lancashire and Yorkshire c . t being satisfied -with what was recommended in that report , but thinking that * better bill might be p- _ sed , had come there for the very proper purpo = e of suiting their views to Hon . Members of that House , - * bo might call tie attention of Parliament to the surject Several gentlemen were present from Lancashirj and Yorkshire ; and he had no doubt that if Hon . Meubers would listen to them , they would ebt&in much valuable inforaation .
Mr . Wilso . n Patten , M . P ., said he attended the meeting to hear the opinions of persons connected and acquainted with the subject , rather than to pass resolutions . Sir Geohgk STBJCKLAND , M . P ., said the two Hod . Mtmb-. rs -who had l ? . st addressed the meeting bad explained so clearly what he -was going to say , that he felt it would be iupererogatiou to say more . He had received a circular some time ago , and he had attended to see -wirat was its hnpresnun upsn manufacturers , that he might know whut part to toke in the House of Commons oa thia most Important iubject . He should have felt it presumption * ohave addressed that meeting , were it not macy years ag \> he took up the subject ; he was thtn a Ten Hours r ..:. n ; he resolved to see that
carried out to the fulles . t ¦ raent , so that no one under twenty-sne years should w : k more than ten hours ; that did not , however , meet « - 'th concurrence , and there appeared to be a dispositiou in favour of an Eight Hours Bill . In answer to ' . -. a observations of Mr . Brook , he would say , that & *•*«* all things he would deprecate a committee of the House of Commons ; he had sat on them all from Sjdkr's down to the lastc . mmittee , where much evidence tv&s adduced relative to tha relay system , and that was an impression very much in favour of a six hours : elay system , which arose from the fact that in many cases tbe eight hours relay system bad degenerated into a six when the eight would not work ; and many witnesses distinctly stated that they preferred a six hours to an eight houre relay system .
Mr . Beight , of Bochdale , said there appeared to be a difference of opinion upon this question , and from all he had heard it was not likely to be diminished . Some thought there should be * no legislation at ail upon this sul ject , and thers -were for having all matters connt * t * : d with them regulated by Act of Parliament . His own opinion went with the first ef these . He said he believed that all legislation upon this subject was ¦ wrong ; he did not particularly oiject to lbgisla-tion so far aa it bad gone , because he believed public opinion had beta with it , but it was moat ceriain it they did to on pitching and tinkering this question , that no sort of satisfaction either to trnployei er emploj ed evei could result Mr . Rand wished this questio . to be
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settled , be ( Mr . Bright ) mast say , he thought be was looking fer something impossible ; he was standing on tbe bank while the river flowed by . He thought it was vain and useless labour to endeavour to reconcile elements which were irrconcilable ; he should be very happy to aay " aye" to tbe proposition tb * t tbe present Bill was Tery bad , bat he should say " no" to tbe remaining propositions , and he believed if the great body of the working chuues were polled , that a great majority of tbem would say " no" to the same propositions .
Mr . Kay , of Bury , rose to express Mb thankfnlness to the gentlemen who had convened this meeting , and he felt happy that Mr . Rand hai been able to propose a plan for their consideration . He was rather surprised at the remark that all attempts at legislation were useless and unnecessary . He must say that factory legislation had done a great deal of good—( hear ) . To bis own knowledge sines be had been connected with cotton factories , mills were in the babit of running not merely twelve , but thirteen , fourteen , and fifteen hours a day , —( boar ) , —and if they had made Acts of Parliament to prevent cruelty to animals , in the name of all that wa ~ good , why should they not pass an Act of Parliament for the protection of human labour—and if cruelty had been practised as could be attested by thousands of living witnesses , he could not see wby the legislature should not interfere and do what they could to prevent its recurrence—( hear ) . He bad worked in a factory
himself , and he would say that so long as they worked children twelve hours a day , sixty-nine hours a week , they were detracting from their moral capabilities and perceptions , snd be was sure they impaired their physical strength . Mr . Bright said that tbe matter bad not been much agitated ; be was surprised at that when they had seen thousands of persona passing through the country last year pulling the plugs out of their boilers and stopping their mills ; one of their demands being that the mills should not be worked mora than ten hours a day . He was of opinion that till they determined to reduce the hours of labour to ten hours all factory legislation would fail in attaining those objects which it was desirable to attain ; and that be knew was tbe opinion of the working people in hia district . Gentlemen whose mills were in large towns wore not so intimately acquainted with the habits and opinions of their workpeople at others where the people lived upon the establishment , as they did in his .
Mr . Bright explained that be did not mean te say that legislation upon the subject h&d done do good ; bis opinion was that it had dune some good , for public opinion was with it Mr . Walker , of Bradford , deprecating and condemning as he strongly did the remarks made by Mr . Bright , was happy to find he bad conceded the point by stating that public opinion was against him . The arguments of Mr . Bright niight have been used forty years sgo , and they need not have come there in 1843 , to be told that young persons were not to be protected , that no necessity existed for protecting those who could not protect themselves . He trusted they had made a greater march in the way ot improvement than to beg any attention to such views ; he had no doubt that
many of tbe most influential Members of the House of Commons entertained right views upon this important subject , and that when an opportunity offemt they would bring it to a satisfactory conclusion . He rejoiced to say that the principal concerns in cotton , flux , woollen , worsted , and he might add silk , desired a diminution in tbe hours of labour . He confidently stated that many of the largest concerns in all those branches would be happy to see the hours of labour reduced from twelve to ten . He hoped then that Hon . Gentlemen would not be influenced by those who say that they bad no wish for tinkering in legislation , but that having been called together , they woulu concur in some measure which would effectually promote the welfare of the bodies and souls of the young persons employed in their factories , Sec
Mr . Milne , of Oidbam , hod been for ten years a strong advocate of the Ten Hours Bill , oil the ground that to work longer was injurious to tbe health and morals of tbe children and young persons . He advocated it too on behalf of those who were thrown out of work by the present system . Wby should they work to death five-sixths of . be population for the purpose of throwing the other sixth out of work , and filling the gaols and workhouses with tbem—( hear ) ? He wanted to know what injury coulrl arise to any class by allowing them all to work tun honrs , instead of five-sixths working twelve hours a day , and one-sixth working
none at uLL He never beard a speech with more pain than he listened to Mr . Bright ' s . He bad a great respect for Mr . Bright , but his opinions were diametrically opposed to every single sentiment be bad expressed . He ( Mr . Milne ; was prepared to say that tbe Ten Hours Bill would be of advantage to tbe employer . He contended then that it was aa much for the benefit of the master as the man to reduce tbe hours ef labour ; and tbe only proper principle on which to regulate the hours of labour was to continue to lessen tbe number of hours till the whole of the labouring population bad employment .
Mr . Morris presumed that the meeting contained gentlemen who were too sound political economists to be carried away by tbe arguments of tbe last speaker . There were always two parties to a bargain , and it was very well to raise the price by reduciug the supply , but he doubted very much whether that would be practicable . He begged distinctly to say , that in his opinion the reduction of the hours of labour to ten hours a day would be pn judicial to the masters and ths children . Mr . Hindley . M . P ., thought they should now adjourn . It was four o ' clock , and tbe corn law question was coming on , and tbey had many petitions to present . He thought it highly necessary that this discussion should be continued , and ho was desirous , tbat tbe fallacies of the lost speaker , and of Mr . Milne should not remain unanswered , he should move tbat the meeting adjourn till the next day , at twelve o ' clock .
Mr . Bright was understood to say that he should protest against any resolutions being brought forward at tbe next meeting . The meeting then adjourned .
ADJOURNED MEETING . The adjourned meeting of Members of Parliament , and Millowners from the four counties of York , Lancaster , Chester , and Derby , upon this subject , was held on Wednesday , May the 9 : h , at the British Hotel , Cockspur-ttrcet . The Hon . J . S . Wortley returned the chair . Mr . Ellis , cf Castltfield , Bmgley , was in the possession of tbe signatures of the owners of twentytour mills , representing their opinion upon the subject of the hours of labour . He might say , generally , that if it were thought adviseablo to alter the act now in force , there was no objection on the part of these miliowners to its being altered to the extent proposed by the bill , it being very near tho practice existing in their mills now .
Tue Chairman said it appeared to be the impression of the meeting yesterday , tbat they should not com * to any distinct vote on the occasion : they only wanted to hear the opinion of gentlemen connected with the factorios , for the information of members of Parliament . Mr . Ellis read the instructions he had received . They were as follows : —* ' It is the opinion of the owners of mills in Keighley , Otley , and Hurley , in the West Riding of the County of York , that it is not advisable to interfere funher ivitb the hoursof labour , than is proposed to be done by the Government factory bill now before parliament . "
Mr . Ra > td sajd they had met for the purpose o ^ laying before members of Parliament , their respec tive opinions as regarded tho hours of labour , and the age ot admission into the factories , and their reasons for such opinions ; for upon the soundness of tho reasons depended tho worth of the opinion to tbe Governmmi :. There could be no doubt that the object of the Government in proposing this b ; il , was not to fix hours for the exclusive advantage of ! ho masters , but bo to fix them as to be coiisuvnt with the moral improvement of ihe population . ^ Lou < i cheers . ) If gentlemen lost sight of that fact , aud consulted only their own private interests , they lost
bight of the very pith of the reason which induced theGovernmenttostiratallin tbematter , ( Hear . ) He would now bd # to ask Mr . Ellis ono question , which he trusted he would answer with the same frankness as he < ilr . Rand ) had stated his reasons , >< : * $ - terday , for tho plan he proposed ; it was this—** Whether a period of twelve hours actual labour for young persons , chitfiyiy females , with two hours for meals , the time for going and returning from the mills , occupying nearly fifteen hours , were , in hia judgment , compatible with their moral improvement , and with the proper discharge of . domestic duties V
Mr , Ellis should eay that the plan Mr . Rand proposed yesterday , would not obtain the object he had in view . He was quite satisfied , lor hia own part , that evening schools were altogether insufficient for the purpose of educating the people . He ( Mr . Ellis ) had been for the last thirty or forty years much interested in the subject of education ; in his neighbourhood they had a national school , containing two hundred and sixty scholars . In his opinion , however , evening and Sunday schools would bo by no means adequate for the purpose . The persona usually found willing to instruct in Snnday
Schools , were generally very incompetent to the duty , and much more fitted to be scholars than teachers . As to the physical part of the question , that was a question fitter for medical men to decide than for himself . He should say there were few neighbourhoods where the morals of the people were better than in his owns if he might judge ot morals from the number of convictions that took place : the number of convictions for assault did not exceed thirty-three in a year , in a population of 26 . 000 . He thought that was a pretty good proof that they were not in a bad state as regarded peace and order .
Mr . E . AND should be Borry to appear pertinacious in a matter of this kind , but he would beg to submit that that was no answer to his question , which he begged to repeat to Mr . Ellis . Mr . Ellis made no reply . The Chairman would wish to ask Mr . Ellis one question , with respect to the working of the enactments which provided for relays ef the young children . Great of jsction had been made to that system in some respects , and he should be glad to kr . ow Mr . Ellis ' s opinion upon it . Mr . Ellis said he bad been engaged to that sort of employment upwards of forty years , and he bad
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never seen anything like a difficalty in it where parties did not employ an undue proportion of very young persons . He hid net { however , any children who worked more than six hours , the eight hours relay having beenfouod productive of much inconve nience . The children in his establishment , between tho age of nine and thirteeen , formed about 10 per cent , of the wholo population employed , but in the worsted business he knew the proportion was much greater , in some oases as much as 33 per cent . He thought where there was a ready disposition to aid the legislature , the system might easily be carried out . Mr . Aldam , M . P ., said , one objection which had been raised to the system was , that they brought up a greater Bumber of persons to the factory employment than could be employed as adults . Mr . Ellis was unable to speak to that point ; he never found any inconvenience to result from it .
Mr . Aldam begged to ask how long Mr . Ellis had practised the six hour system . Mr . Ellis said about two years . He adopted it after conferring on the subject , with Mr . Saunders , the Factory Inspector , who strongly recommended him to try it . Mr . Brocklehurst , M . P ., thought the plan of Mr . Ellis might suit Keighley Union very well , but Mr . Rand'e plan was muoh more comprehensive . The business of silk throwing woald be entirely destroyed by Mr . Ellis ' s plan . He would propose for Bilfe that children from eight to ten years of age should only work six hours and a half , and attend school , and from ten to thirteen , work ten hours a day , and from thirteen , acoording to the provisions of the Bill . Mr . Walker remarked that Mr . Ellis had alluded
to his own works in the countay : the objection applied more particularly to large towns , where the population would be made ' 0 large in consequence of the double relay system . The Chairman said he had been told that the difficulty would bo in the country where there would not be a sufficient number of children for the relays . Mr . Brccklehurst remarked that the Mayor of Macclcsfield had lately taken a census of that town , when it was found that there vfew 1700 adult weavers walking about , and not one child under eighteen years of agu unemployed . Mr . Harrison , of Bury , concurred with Sir G . Strickland in advocating au Eleven Hours' Bill .
Mr . Kay , of Bury , said in many of the mills in large towns the owners would not employ children under thirteen years of age at all . They wero , therefore , to ramble up and down the streets , and to do what they pleased He should very muoh recommend millowners to tako into their consideration that which Mr . Rand had so ably staled , whether twolve hours labour was really consistent with a proper feeling of humanity towards their workpeople . Mr . Brook thought it was agreed that Mr . Rand's resolutions should to-day be taken into consideration with a view of considering them in detail . As to the first resolution , he would not say one-word except that he entirely agreed with it . The second was an utter fallacy . To suppose that , was to suppose that
the persons who were enabled by law to work twelve hours a-day remained stationary , and did not pro grcss into any other department of manufacture . As they attained strength , and ability , and information , they were gradually taken from the piecers to be feeders , where they would feed two carders , or a carder and and a scribbler . That this would introduce then a double number of persons into the factories was a fallacy—( hear , hear . ) He then read the third resolution , and asked if there could bo any thing more unreasonable than to suppose that that would bo the case ; tho ordinary wages of piecers was 3 .-1 . Gd . a-week , and in some places as high as 4 s . 6 d . for the younger branches engaged in that business . But they only got half that
amonnt , that wa 3 Is . 9 d . subject to a reduction of 3 J . a week . The income to the family therefore did not exceed Is . 6 i . Suppose a man ' s family consisted of five children , he would not have mere than two who could work . ' at that description of work , that wonld be three shillings a week , but that would be a sufficient inducement for any man to change his residence . With regard to the 4 th resolutioh , he might perhaps subject himself to the charge of inhumanity in what he was going to say ; but his opinion was , and it was not a very recent opinion , but one founded upon great experience , and it was the opinion of the most celebrated men in the medical profession , that the persons employed in mills in his neighbourhood , where they regularly worked twelve hours , were
more healthy—he said more healthy—than the children who- were allowed to roam about , and who wore unemployed . They worked in a temperature , certainly not like that of the cotton mills in Lancashire , which was by no means consistent with health ; and he was told the effect of tho oil was by no means insalubrious ; and he believed it was admitted by the Factory Inspectors that the children who came under their inspection were taller of their years than those engaged in any other employment . With regard to the pressure upon the physical powers , he would take it upon himself to say that there was nothing like work in the woollen trade , as compared with the work of an agricultural labourer , a mason , a bricklayer , or any other
labourer ; all that was required was attention , but beyond that there was nothing at all that deserved the appellation of labourer . If this were passed young females of the age of eighteen would not be allowed to work the regular hours as by the present law ; he could see no reason for that ; he believed young women at eighteen were as much at maturity as they ever would be— ' * The proper performance of domestic duties ; " on that he would say , that all factory labour or labour of any kind other than domestic labour , had a tendency to produce that evil , and unless they took steps to annihilate factory labour , that evil which was inseparable from the system must continue . How could they teach young women engaged ten hours a-day , the culinary art , or washing , or getting up of linen , cooking , or other domestic work ! The next resolution he thought
that had been already referred to in the . first proposition , and certainly relays never could work well or would bo submitted to by the employer , except when there was a great demand for labourers . Ad he observed yesterday , to reduce the liours of labour from twelve to ten would have the effect of destroying one-sixth of a \\ the mill property in the kingdom—( a laugh ) He hoped ho was not misunderstood . Unquestionably if they could work the mills as much as they were capable of being worked , and it they were prevented working them two hours a day , if he understood figures , it must have the effect of depriving them of the employment of one-sixth of their property and of its value . Mr . Harrison remarked that the value of property depended on the manner of working it and the profits of the trade .
Mr . Brook did not see how that affected the proposition , Mr . Harrison said it most certainly did affect the proposition . Mr . Brook really did not see much in the remark . Tho gentleman who spoke last adverted to some remarks with which the meeting was favoured by Sir Goo . Strickland yesterday , and he ( Mr . Brook ) quite concurred in the view he took of those remarks . Ho was awaro that there were extreme opinions , and
he thought that all parties should be ready to make some concessions . The publio had agreed that a factory bill should begin when the first factory bill was passed , it waa passed under circumstances projudical to the millowners ; frequent cases of abuse had been committed , and some humane persons , one of whom was in the room—( hear , hear)—headed an agitation upon the subject , and the result was that a factory bill was passed in the total absence of proper information ; and that mill-owner would have btea a bold man who dared come forward then to defend
himself from the charges of cruelty with which as a body they were stigmatised . Gentlemen of as great humauify as those who headed the agitation felt themselves prostrated , and had not moral courage enough to defend themselves from the charges heapetl : i # ainstthem . The view he took of the question as regarded shortening tho hours of labour was this . He held that it would bq difficult , if not almost impossible for the manufacturers of this country to keep a footing against foreign competition , and be thought it became the legislature to bo cautious howfar they attempted to increase the difficulties which at present oppressed the manufacturing population of this country . He had before hinted , liowevor , that concession became al ]; they were all members of a great and intelligent
community , and no doubt they had the same object in view . He for one , by the way of getting a proper settlement of the question , though he was in the habit of workmg twelve hours , would not mind agreeing to a bill of eleven hours . He did not think that that would deprive him of a twelfth pirt of his property , but it would deprive him of some , and no one could deny it . In the woollen trade in Yorkshire , the people worked by the piece , and if work should be plentiful , he had no doubt the men who were responsible for the performance oi tho work , would take the opportunity of cleaning the machines during the work hours , as they would have such an interest in turning out a large quantity of work in the week . NothiDg would give him ( Mr . Brook ) so much pleasure as to see some plan of education brought forward by the gentlemen which would
be capable of being worked , paying a respect to all the opinions and scruples of the community at large ; but to fetter any individual class of tradespeople , and to vex and annoy them in the conduct of their business , was so utterly unjust and so bad in principle , that he should look upon it as the greatest evil that could happen to the factory masters—( hear , hear ) No man could be more oonvinced of the necessity of education than himself , but he would say that the people of the manufacturing districts wero better and greater , notwithstanding all the obloquy that had been thrown upon them , than those of the agricultural labourers . He had no other remark to make than simply to say that if any good should result from this meeting , he should feel very thaufeful to the gentlemen who bad called it , and he should be glad to giro any assistauce to an Eleven Hours Bill .
Mr . John Wood , of Bradford , having felt himself alluded to by Mr . Brook , freely confessed that he was very early engaged in obtaining the public
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support to an amelioration of factory labour , and perhaps the meeting would think he was justified in doing bo , when tbey knew that tens of thousands of children , some as young as seven years of age , began work in the morning at six o ' clock , frequently earlier , and continued their labour uniformly till seven at night , frequently till eight or nine , with but the short interval of half an hoar for meals . It was his habit never to asperse any branch of factory employment . ( Hear , hear . ) He merely entered
into those abuses with which he was familiar , and which he could no longer permit to continue without attempting some improvement . ( Hear , hear . ) He therefore , from year to year , struggled with his friend , the late Mr . Sadler , whose name he honoured , to obtain a system more consistent with humanity and Christianity ; and it was the happiest recollection of his life that tha first Bill that passed , affecting his own branch of business , might be considered as the result of those early labours in which he had engaged . ( Hear , hear . )
Mr . Hindley said if he had the framing of an Act of Parliament he would bring in a bill for twelve hours from tho commencement to the termination of labour leaving half an hour for breakfast , and one hour for dinner , and he would permit young persons to enter the mill at eleven years of age . That was what he would recommend , but he would not conceal that the great body of the masters would not agree to it . Mr . Milne believed that legislation had done a great deal of good ; were it not for legislation , tho supply of goods in the market now would have created such a glut as to have thrown the people out of employment . If , then , longer hours than twelve would have caused greater glut in the market , and
would have thrown a number of people out of employment , the reverse must follow if they worked less hours ; the glut would be less and afterwards they should be able to employ more hands . ' He did not think that working shorter hours would diminish the value of mill property ; his opinion was , that by working shorter hours they would in a year or two not require more hands but the masters would get more profit . It was a fixed principle that the smaller quantity of an article was thrown upon the market the greater price it commanded . If tho supply of labour to the markot were reduced it would have a tendency to raise the value of labour ; if the people did not work more then ten hours it would diminish the supply of labour , and would therefore
increase the value of it to the benefit of both masters and men . Ho was of opinion , however , that they should discuss this question in relation to its moral and physical effects upon the employed . ( Hear . ) He believed that long hours had the same bad physical effects upon adults as upon children , though the Government would not legislate ibr persons over 21 years of age . He did not think , however , that the Government acted upon the right principle in that ; he perfectly agreed that Government should not interfere with tho liberty of the subject , but there was no liberty when once they entered a factory . Several gentlemen had expressed a strong objection to any
moiion being made or vote taken upon this subject ; he did not know why that was . The meeting was called in order to express to members of Parliament the opinions of millowners and he did not see how members could know what their opinion was unless a vote were taken . Many gentlemen had not spoken at all , and it waa impossible to know their sentiments without taking a vote . He should not make a motion himself but he would suggest that the feeling of the meeting should be taken as to a Ten Hours' Bill . ( Hear , hear . ) He was glad to hear Mr . Brook express himself favourable to an Eleven Hours Bill , which was advocating the principle in opposition to the relay system .
Mr . Rand said when he c % me to the meeting yesterday ho camj under the conviction that they ought to have a Factory Bill of ten hours . He came there with a mind open to conviction , not with a determination to adhere to any plan of his own , but desirous of hearing every reason that could be urged against it ; and he could honestly say that he had not heard cne satisfactory , sound reason for a departure from his principles ; | he might be wrong . Mr . Brook had consented to come down to an Eleven Hour Bill , but before he consented to that he distinctly told the meeting that concurrently with the factory system itself , it was in vain to look
for moral improvement or domestic comfort amongst the females in the factories . If he ( Mr . Rand ) entertained that opinion he would say " perish the factories , " but he did not ; he had no desire to revert to the days of domsstic industry , when the people manufactured by hand iu a possibly damp and unwholesome cottage ; he believed the factory system might be mado a blessing to England and consistent with the moral welfare of the people . ( Hear . ) If that might be so , he would ask if it were not their duty so to legislate that such should be the result , and he belived the system could be managed in such a manner as to produce that result .
Mr . Walker observed , with regard to a remark of Mr . Ellis ' fi about medical evidence , that he could furnish him with a whole host of" medical evidence " upon the subject . Dr . Hawkins said the hours of labour should be limited to ten hours a day , and stated that that waa the opinion of the majority of the medical men of Lancashire ; there was no doubt on that subject whatever . ( Hear , hear . ) He might go further in relation to what had fallen from Mr . Brook , and quote the opinion of a practical man whom he ( Mr . Walker ) should like to have been present , he meant Mr . Greg , who said that a reduction in the hours of labour was most important to the manufacturing population to any alteration in their moral or physical condition ; it might be urged in opposition that all legislative interference was an evil , and so forth , but it was an evil said Mr . Greg , which necessity and policy may justify , and which justice and humanity imperatively demanded .
Mr . Walker , M . P . for Bury , wished to know the name fof tho pamphlet of which Mr . Greg , was the author , for he believed he had written upon both sides of the question . ( A laugh ) Mr . Walker replied that the author was Mr . Wm . Greg , and that tbe pamphlet was called " An Inquiry into the State of the Manufacturing Population . " He might also quote from Mr . Ken worthy , a gentleman who employed 2 , 000 power looms , and who ought to be au authority , and he was firmly convinced that tea hours was the full period that a person should be employed . ( Hear , hear . ) It they agreed to a Ten Hours Bill thev would do
what was right towards the working people ; and if the consequence should be less profit to the masters , he contended that the temporal and external welfare of the young people should not be bartered for the sake of gain . ( Hear , hear . ) But he thoueht there would be no serious loss to either party in the long run ; and he had no fear whatever of the conquences ; he know many gentlemen who would be glad to see the hours of labour reduced to ten who would indeed be delighted to have it so , for they would the" have a population around them who would regard them not as tyrants , but as friends . ( Hear . )
Mr . Brook hoped the meeting would remember that there was a marked distinction between cotton and wool . His remarks were confined to wool , Mr . Walker's applied to cotton . If there were an objection to working twelve hours in wool , ho should say there was as great an objection to working ten hours in cotton . The nature of the one was far superior to the other . The temperature of a cotton mill was exceedingly high , whilst in a | wool establishment it was not too high . : Mr . Walker said that was not exactly the question ; it was not the nature of the labour , bat it was the robbing the children of tho time which they required for moral improvement . They should be content with ten hours of their labour , and let them spend the remainder of their time as they chose .
Mr . Harrison said thnre was no difference between tho temperature of cotton and wool mills . In tho mills of Mr . Kenworthy , however , he believed there was considerable difference , which consisted in the difference between fine and low spinning . Mr . Kay said the gentleman referred to was not Mr . Kenworthy of Manchester ; he believed Mr . K . ' s temperature was not high . Mr . Walker , M P ., said his brothers were very largely connected with the cotton trade , and , he had therefore thought it his duty to consult gentlemen interested in that trade , and ascertain their opinions , and he found that there was a general
dissatisfaction with the law as it at present stood . He thought there was a great disposition to come to a compromise with the labourers as to the hoursof working . Different opinions did exist , but tho great majority of reasonable and well-disposed manufacturers were in favour of a short time of working . ( Hear , hear . ) The general feeling appeared to be that there should be a uniform time of working for children and adults , and so far as he could judge , the majority were in favour of making ten hours with the children rather than have the relay system . ( Hear , hear . ) He believed the relay system was not adopted at all in Bury , containing 70 , 000 inhabitants .
Mr . Kay remarked thatjthere were one or two who worked upon it . Mr , Walkeji , M . P . continued—He was not aware of it . But he knew there waa a great disposition against it , for the system was so troublesome , and Inspectors had so much power , that masters would rather employ persons above thirteen years of age , than they would be troubled to steer clear of all the meshes and nets spread for them by the present law —( hear , hear ) . He saw the difficulty of relay ? , and of having much labour unemployed from six to thirteen years of age , and should they come to a vote in the House of Commons , he should vote for a Ten
Hoars Bill ; but , seeing so many influential manufacturers present , he should lik" to have their unanimous opinion , because that would have a great effect upon the Government . So long as the present system continued , the females could not be educated : they became mothers in a state of ignorance ; and ho thought one argument in favour of a diminution of the hours of labour was the respect they ought to hare for the female character—( hear , hear ) . He thought that the manufacturers and spinners present should come to a unanimous vote , whether in favour of an Eleven or a Ten Hours' Bill , and he thought that by some compromise they ought to do so . Could
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" ~ _^ n they not do it by having a Ten and a half HnniJ Bill ! Suppose to be ^ in work at six and S till eight , then half an hour for breakfast Th work till twelve , then begin again at one . 2 work untill six o ' clock at night , tbat WonM be ten and a half hours . They would allow MT 2 for tea , and he knew from experience that a mi could d « as much in a short day as he could in a W day—( hear , hear . ) He knew that when MancW ter fair was in prospect or a fete was comiW 0 T ibey had 20 per cent , added to the amount of prodn tion in agiven time , and he was confident if tho m T pie knew they were only Ito work ten hours anT . half , that they would work with greater spirit th »» they did now- ( hear , hear . ) He thought they wonM do a great service to humanity , and would notk . injuring the trade , if they came to a resolution in n . ! l
effect —( hear , hear . ) At the same time he did n « t wish to intrude his opinions —( hear . ) The Chairman said the last speaker had remark * tbat in the town of Bury there was no one mannf ^ turer who had worked by relays , perhaps he wonM be good enough to explain how they escape the sv £ tem of relays , because children under thirteen vea » of age , were limitftd to eight hours labour . Mr . Walker , MR , said that they had not achna under thirteen year 3 of age in their factories—fhe « - hear . ) With respect to Mr . Greg ' s pamphlet hi would remark tbat Mr . Greg wrote it when he w » a a young man , and he ( Mr . Walker ) highly approve of it ; but about fiye years ago Mr . G . WMteJ pamphlet on the other side , and he belived he *« now a twelve hour man—CA laugh . ) ¦ ¦¦
Mr . Cheetham was afraid that the feeling ex pressed by the gentleman who had just sat down with regard to an unanimous vote , could not be rea lized , for it appeared that in that room as elsewhere they were divided . The question presented itself to him in two points of view , the 1 st a question of humanity , the 2 nd a question of policy . Oa tha footing of humanity , tea hours was correct and eight hours would be still better , but it did not ac cord with policy ; and when he ( Mr . Ch eethwn saw the trade of this country bound and fettered it appeared to him that Government should finl ; seat ( "Continuedin our Fifth pane . )
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Leeds Corn Market , Tuesday May 16 th . -Tne arrival of Wheat to this day ' s market is ratn « larger than last week , other kinds of gram saw Fine Wheat has been in limited demand at « j * week ' s prices , but the second qualities have » een ' better demand , and prices fully supported , « chambered qualities very dull . Barley " , ' ^ tion . Oats and Beana id better demand , and pnew rather dearer . THE AVERAGF PRICES OF WHEAT , FOR TH VciZ
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Northern Star (1837-1852), May 20, 1843, page 8, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct934/page/8/
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