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      HOUSE OF LOKDS-Friday , July 22 . lord Brougham laid upon- the table two Billa , having for ttivit object to improve the law of Bankruptcy&M to facSitata smngenients between debtor Sad creditor . The Bills were read a first time , and IiOTd 3 uynuhur ;> t ' s measure , upon the same Bubject , as *» ellfiBihe Csunty Court ' s Bill , having been passed through Committee , their Lordships adjourned .

      Monday * July 25 . JjOTil WHARSCUFfE intimated is - reply to the BJsSop of L-a ^ oa , that it was the 5 ci « ilii > n oFGoTeraxnenl to esta ' &rsll BOimal seho ^ u . wHh '> ut . any spfeci 2 r . religious edu .-ts . tioa , for th-- «; i v ? iio ¦ wero to become themsrlvfs the teachers of serials . In the distribution of the srant , the Government would follow ihe plan laid down by their predecessors . Oa the Motion for tie re-committal of tile Mines and Collieries Bill , Lord Brougham inculcated great caution in the application cf the principle of interfering with the rights of ' a ^ our . Ha admitted thafe the Legislature might intarfeie -with the employment of " children in occupations i ; jorisas to their constitntionB , bat was ^ ealona cf- inteiferenca "withthe oocopation of a-Sults , &s the principle adopted'in the present bill mi ? fci be « X « scfitQ to ctheT occupations , snch as that of pia &nu Btedle-niakina , &c

      The Marqul 3 of XoXDOXDERRT hailed the support of Lord Brougham la opposition to the Bill , as other"wise ha Lad stood alone , having been thrown overboard by Lord Hathtrton . He moved that the Bill . be referred to a select committee . Alttr a short discussion , the recommittal of the Bill waa carried by 49 to 3 . Th » Bill was then recommitted , and Lord SKELHEESDALE moved that -women above forty years of aga at present -working in collieries should still be permitted to do so . After considerable discussion , this was rejected by 29 to 35 . Ihe Earl cf SIocmcashsl proposed to raise the limitation age of children from ten to twelve years . This ¦ sras negatived without a division . The Bill , aster some further discussion , went through tostusittce , aad iae Houss aaioumei

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      HOUSE OF COMMONS , Friday , July 22 . Ths Customs Act Amendment BUI tras read a third time and passed ; as was also the Exchequer Bills -Preparation Bi ' Sir J- Gkauaii moved that the Poor Law Amendment Bill bs now read a third time . Mr . Pieldes gave notice , that on the question' that the Bill do pass , he shcsM move as an amendment tbat It bs printed , in order teat Hon . Members might i . nu-& ¦ what it contained . He believed thai not five Members knew what its provisions -were .

      ilr . S . Ceatvpoud said thia Bill was utterly barren of any provisions for the relief of the poor from the oppressive working of the present la's ; its only effect ¦ would fce to continue the Commission for five years longer . The quest ! . n ^ as then , m < ul 3 the Ecuse consent to s B- _ i with such &n object , in the face of all the objtcvlor . s bronJLs r . ^ sinst tLe a ; bitr ar j cbaracie ; aDd prcseediEtS vi iht ComTms ^ jmrs ? He would remind the Hycse , th ^ s to those \ . r jsctiens no satisfactory ai ^ Tror Lad ever been given . The Commissioners , it ¦ was proved , had betn guilty of the unnecessary and ¦ unreasonable forcing of the in-door test in cases where it waa clearly absurd to attempt thia—^ iiere there was insufficient accommodation for the poor , and thry could rot be rrlisTsd in the House . The next charge acainst them was fcr obstinately directing the use cf unwholesome ct inadequate dU t for the paupers , and coniHiindicg it to bs continued , although they knew that it ¦ produced disease . Tne fact 3 brought forward to

      support these charges hid never been di-proTed , and t ^ e charges aeciriir . gly remained in full forct-. The ntx * . charge sgzinst the CennuissioBers trss , taut they pt-rmi ^ td extraordinary and esees&iva pnnislmienta—ths . t yrzs cot denied . Ansthsr charge ws 3 that ice raits of the Conucisiiciiers effecting a ; : ed parson 3 were inhuman ard cru = I ; the seed and infirm were put under the same roaf -niih ttia able-bodied , and kept in such a con-aiticn that lifa coaM not b = sustained . He ciuulenged any Hon . iltmbtr who BuppirtTfed the 25 i ; i to thow that those charges were false ; the only answer to tkem was , that such things had been don ? in other places and at a fonder time , but that was no justification of the prrsent cc-nduct of the Commissioners . iiEothtr strong objection to % he Bill was , that it gavs so power of appall to the poor mm against the acts of the Guardians or Commissioners- Again , the distance o ? ihe poor from ths workhonsa was geneisliy so grrat . tiat iz frsa im ^ Lssihle for them to -make tbeir ¦ wants kao-Tn . The Housa was now asked to resew

      theCiics ^ sioa ^ ears , nnaer a promise xrem governrnca ; teal tfeey won ; d iatrctiuca a ftnifcciai 3 iU asxt S . ^ sion . TL 3 t ws 3 a pledsa on which no relianes could ba pkctd , as hs fulnliBe-f-eatireiy depiDd = d en circnvastmefes . After the conduct ; of ilinL-tcrs . ia uividi ^ g the Bill , and taking only the ciausfcs aifecUBS th = C . iirimifflion , in the fac 3 of their ceclsrav . on tha * it must be passed entire , how cuuld the Hocs-2 rely ca the pledge now given to bring in a Bi ^ BUi : a xha nsxz Session , when the intentions w " Gjvernincnt might be Jefeated ? If this Bill passed , rspres&ntitioa would bo a humbug . They heard much in recent cebates of the distress prevailing in the country , and it wu St tha » the Housa should properly investigits that subject . The greatest relief , howtver , vhich could be adc ^ iniitered , at least to these who

      most Kquire-j is , would , he was convinced , ba afforded through a humane and charitable Poor Law ; but he vba sorry to 2 nd that those who talked most londiy of the prevailing distress were Bupporiers of the present sai . s . a iiapiored iic-mbers to break their sKence , and tell tfcs ec-sinisy -whit they meant to do to relieTe the £ gon ' z " c 5 distr < as -vraich in some psrts existed in Ireland . He dia not sptak on this subject with any thing like party fesling ; he did not txpect that a large number wvuia supper ; the motioa he was about to make ; but he was not ashamed to appear in a small Biinerity on th : ' s question . At all events , he would rather gksry in beicg in a small minority supporting the Tights of the poor , than in the " largest majority against them . ( Eeax . ) He begged now to move , that the Biil be read a third time that day three months .

      Mr . Field ex seconded the motisn . The Hon . Member then read the lettsr , which was to the following efiect : —The writer stated , — " I have just read , with astonishment , Sir James Graham ' s st-itement relative to the beneficial effect of the New Poor liw in rural ilisUicta . The fict is , that the Corn Laa- and the Foci law together have reduced tens of iiionaands Df field labourers in the rural districts to a sti e of abjiet slavery , starvation , and nak&ilaets . Itisze-I . j heartrending in this ones fl ^ urishiair , bat now suffering country , to hear its rulers : who" profess to be ths rnardLics of onr psaca , com : ort 3 , and prosperity , tiik iike Sir James Graham , in the faca of so many iaca , wiuea declare that the field labourers at this mom&nt are star ? iag fur want cf work . " When

      the Poor Law was introduced there was a clause in it enacting that oui-ii- ^ cr rtiitf sfconid "be refused , to abiebodi £ dn > fca m-r tbe Slst of Joly , 1 S 35 ; but this ' clauEa Wis ¦ srili ^ -raws . if ow , he asked , why did not the Gjtsixi 2-s : do what tQfj cci the Oorriniinrinnw to do ? Tu . s ^ tu ? a . cowaraly c . jnri 5 tf proceeding . He did not exp ^ c : bis eppaihi ^ n to the Bii to be succesEfn ] . Kesriy z ' . l ihe LiD ; r-d acd Censerrativeilembrrs wcuid vote fs , r the third r . ; aa : ug . Still he Wiuld discharge hi 3 dnty . T-i conduc ' : of tbat Hcuso was oppressiTe to the i-ojr . They poshsJ Ij" 5-s to iniike food dearer , and tij = 2 they passed < .-tit-r liws to rtduce tie rale of

      Wised If thc 7 tEocght ths iabjur = rs cf Vat country "would bear this , tL ^ y were mistzl := n . He had been warxir ? : ± i : ii far ten Te ' -JS cf tr . 5 spproach of distress ; and no ? r tiiat di £ trti 5 had ccme . Ee wcula now tndeaYoar to impress ea the aisds o : the Governs := iit whstinzii fce tiss coiusq-iEe * oi CQnxinxdng ths com-I&is 5 i \> a tor £ ts or £ . x jtsrs . Ihs ]» bouriag m « u of Englaad hoped Rhtu a Conscivativd GoTcrnrnent came infcj povrerlt -Rcuid act on Cja » tvatifeprinc : plos , and that tiitir condition would be bsitsrcd . Taey had hctn okai-pointej , lus . a fetiirj of reveBge wassprinfing-up in tifcir . boHonis , and vrcn-d bj maif < jstsd ia a way \ rh : ca all -Bcula have to ceplore .

      • air . sC . vy . iz couM not ca&ceive how a Bill such as - thia cams to La supportsd by so many of the Liberal ; party . ~ ; i > ir . JtiSEXEiGH conOemncHi tha Bfa far thsliMSibip 'VTiLli vrlich it jjress ^ d aj-ja nisn vrHh large families . ' Mr . Escoxt 'ccald not oppose the third reading ; A great c-oiat tad been gaiusvi in tLs decL-jatian of the : Honic Sicretaiyj that tae esplinai-ory istter of the , Commissioners was not to bt taken as a binding . ;

      oratr . . i , ' ^ dr . AGL 10 SBY ¦ c ould vots ni-ainst tlie third reading , ' by reason of ths c ' nuse vhioli continu&d tile C-jm- ; mission fvr £ ts jears . _ He bsg ^ ed to be understood . as not cc-ctuxlog in the ctrong iarsguags / usid by Mr . ; PirlUfcEL . j C ^ ptiin PsenrLL EiiJ that ha triumphed in the ; rsspiic of tie G lifert Tnions . i fa snswfcr to a question from Mr . R . Yorke . j Sir J . Gkahaji repsated his < 5 cnvictlon Gf the neces-1 Bifcy for a ctentrai authority . Parochial administration witaoat appeal was recommended hy no ons ; and , j even Tit . sppsal , it had been profiuctiTa of so mauy j evaa , as to eoiapa tha interposUion of the Legislature . ] It was coiBp / SiKd tiiat tfceie lay no appeal from tee Beard of Gnardiiois ; bat a representation made to the

      CeBJiausiontrs cf any matter in which the Goardians had miBc ^ n ' . td would haidly fail to induce some remedy . Saving himself sliled in round num !> era , that where . 290 , 010 people had Been relieved in the workhouses , more than 1 . 000 , 000 haa been relieved afc horns , ' he-had . ernes been sited to specify the proportion of th « ablebodkd persons . Tae nuxaber of those relived" during thfc quarter ending Ladv-tiay , 1640 , in the -ttoikhonseB , ¦ was under 50 , 000 ; at their own tomes , 205 , 000 . During tibe corresponding quarter tf 1841 , the number reliefed in the workhouses was 65 , 506 ; at their homes , 280 , 150 ; 3 "he EyBtem , then , which had been condemned as a crnsl and iron £ jst-. m was , in trath , s plsstic and humane one ; and he earnesUy recommended to HieHoosa to eaneiioa it by such a majority as should mar £ their con-TJetioa o ? its nsefalaess .

      31 * . O'CoanEUj' s main otjection was against the eonttunaiice vf " the CoiamUsion tj 1 S 17 . In Ireland ibere ¦ were Commissioners having a political bias , whitli

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      appeared on the trial against the prisoners . And what , after all , was the language to which tb * constable deposed ? According to hi * account , Maaon was telling the people , and telling them , as he ( Mr . Duncombe ) believed , truly that tha laws- of this country were made by the aristocracy—that the people bad no voice in the election of their representatives—that the laws which were to be obeyed by all Bhould be made by all , and consented to by all ; that the individuals in this country who worked the hardest received-the least ; and that thos » who -worked the least received the most . The const * ble then interrupted the lecturer , saying that be could stand tbat no longer ; that be should do something for his pay ; that Mason waa ming seditious language ; and that it would be bis duty

      to break up the meeUng . Mason told ihe constable that he had no business to interrupt him ; that his only business would be to go before the magistrate and lodge information against him , which might be tried on a future day . The constable persisted in putting an end to the meeting ; he took hold of tke bench on which Mason was Etanding , and tilted up the lecturer—( a laugh . ) The people interposed , but finally Beman carried off the bench . No breach of the peace was committed , except by the constable . Mr . Mason took out a warrant against the constable , upon which the constable took out another against Mason , and caused him to be apprehended . Tbe magistrates committed Mason for trial , and dismissed the charge against tae conataotet Mf . Mason and seven others were committed for

      attending an unlawful meeting , and for assault . The meeting was one which no lawyer would call unlawful or illegal . It was perfectly peaceable tiil interrupted by the constable . These poor working men were committed on a charge of unlawfully meeting , and on a charge of riot and assault All ths charges against them , except for unlawfully meeting , had subsequently vanished , a :: d he { Mr . Dunconibe ) denied that for even that part of the charge there was any good ground . They had not come with arms , or with banners , or in anything like military array , nor was the meeting accompanied by any circumstance that could constitute it aa unlawful assembly . [ Here the proesediBgs were interrupted by the nomination of some Honourable Members to accompany Mr . Greene , as managers of a conference with

      the Lords , on the Wicfclow Harbour Bill . On their return , Mr . Greene reported that they had delivered in tbeir reasons for disagreeing to the amendments to the bltt . Mr . T . Tmneombe then resumed . ] He had been going to say wben he was interrupted , tbat Mason and the others had not been guilty of using seditious language ; but that even if they had been guilty , the constable would net have been justified in interrupting them . JIason had been found guilty of attending aa unlawful meeting ; the others had been found guilty of a common assault . He ( Mr . Duncombe ) complained of the arrest ; he complained of the circumstances that had taken place at the trial ; and be complained of the sentence tbat bad been passed . The constable had evidently a diflike to Mason , and yet the

      Chairman in passing sentence gaveone man two months ' imprisonment , another man four , and another six months' imprisonment , according to tbe . cffcturh of the constable . If guilty , they wero all equally guilty , and in awarding punishment to refer to a partial witness could not be fair . These men were now prisoners in Stafford goal , after having been ; sacrificed to the party spite of the magistrates , and in the peasant state of feeling in Staffordshire such treatment , he contended , of the working classes was anything kut prudent . When they coupled snch occurrences ¦ with what had lately occuired in Ireland , the . peopie natnraNy asked , were they returning to the days of Castlereagh ? He ( Mr . Duncosnbfe ] maintained that the people bad a right to meet and discuss whr . t they deeraed to be grievances , and tcia prosecution , instituted by the

      magistrates , was di ££ rsceful to the connty of Stafford . Ho did not believe that any judge of assiza would have found these unhappy men guilty , and it would therefore be betttr if the power of magistrates to try such effdnces at quarter sessions were taken away . It was too late in the session to ask for a committee of inquiry to investigate these charges , but he would 611-deavocr to obtain the best information within bis react ) . The Hon . Member concluded by moving for copies of the depositions upon which J . Mason , a Chartist leeturer , Thomas Ciswell , and six others were committed for trial at the late Midsummer sessions for tha eouuty of Stafford ; togethtr with copies of the indictment , or indictments , and the names and addresses df the magisr tratas acd jury before whom they were tried . Mr . Hume secended the

      motion-Sir J . Graham said he owed some explanation to the Honourable Gentleman ( Mr . Duncombe ) acd to the House for what had occurred on a former occasion , when this subjsct was introduced . He ( Sir J . Graham ) did not wish to avail himself of any subterfuge ; but , when it was considered , that in the course of the year , about 4 , 000 ca ^ es connected with tbe criminal administration passed through his bands , added to which , at this period of the year , he had to spend about ten hours of the day in that House , he thought there was gome excuse for him if he was not always able to recollect the circiustances of each case when referred to . The caBe

      came before him in the shape of a nismorial ; but the memorial was indorsed , not "John Mason , " but" Thomas Caswell ; " and this , circum .-tance bsd led to hia inistafee . Looking at a'l the circumstance of the case , he ( Sir James Graham ) thought tbe Honourable Gentleman was taking a strange btep , whsnbe attempted to con-Eti ' . ute that liousea crurt of appeal against the verdict of ajiny . He ( Sir James Graham ) would not attempt to tnter on the details of this subject upon an exparte statement ; but when tbe Honourable ' Gentleman Bald that the constable had exceeded his duty / he ( Sir James Grab am ) must say heh ; . d still to learn , that a constable hearing at a public met ting , language calculated to lead to a breach of the peace , was not entitled to arrest tbe person so offending . Of course the

      constable would do so on his own responsibility— ( bear , hear , Lear , from Mr . Hawea ) . At all events , the question had been submitted to a jury , aiid the Hon . Gentleman would Eurely not say that it was not compttent for twelve men empannelled as a jury , to bring in a verdict on a question of this kind . The chairman who presided on the occasion , bad held bis office for twelve yeats , was a man of acknowledged skill and rxperience , and was a member of the legal profession . Tne Right Hon . Barontt then proceeded to read a statement from the gentleman in question , who stated that for more than seven years be bad attended no political meeting , or had ever , in public , given expression to any political opinion . Nor bad he ever heard any political discussion among the magistrates when they attended tbe quarter sessions . He ( Sir James Graham ) could

      add tbat the chairman bore a high character for impartiality , and the language of Mason was undoubtedly of a most exciting kind . The prosecution was ordered by the magistrates . There were four counts in the indictment . The first was for riot , the second for unlawfully assemblim ? , and the third and fourth for different degrees of assault The jury returned a verdict against one of the defenriants on the second count , and against the other suven fur an assault , and the chairman did only what was right in imppsiag the heaviest punishment up ( , u Mason . The Hon . Gentleman asked whether the time had arrived when it was not lawful for the people to nuret in a peaceful and lawful manner ? God forbid ! but the question was , bad these people met in a lawful manner ? Had they met in a peaceful manner ? and in return he would ask ha * they arrived at the time when that House would review the verdict of

      a jury whose verdict could not be impugned ?—( tear , hear . ) The only semblance of doubt on on this point bad since been retracted by the Honourable Gentleman himself . It had been implied that there were grounds for tuspectinjr the chairman of tampering with the jury . The fact was this . The trial lasted from nine o ' clock in the morning till four o ' clock In the afternoon . Tbe chairman , before summing up , begged IeaTa to retire for two or three minutes , and the jury applied for a similar indulgeuee . Tne jury left the court under charge of a constable , but by mistake went into the same * passage as the chairman , who simply put them right es to where they should go . He ( Sir J . Graham ) contended it was in all respects a fair , honest , and impirtisl trial , and deprecated the constituting of that House ii' . to a court of appeal . He should oppose the motion .

      Mr . E . Buller corroborated the statement that tho jurymen ^ ho retired were in charge of the proper officer , and the chairman had no communication with tht-ni further trian had te-. n stated ; and Sore testimony to the nccuracy of the written statement quoted by the Right Hon . Baronet . The chairman , was a gentleman of much le ? al knowledge , clear perception , an « l sounii judgment , and he ( Mr . E . Bailer ) knew no one upon whose impirtiality ha would place a greater reliance ; Mr . AGLiONB" ? knew nothing of the patties cenc ^ rnid , or of their political opinions , and was therefore not prepared to jave any opinion on the facts of tbe case . His object in rising was to express bis ( hssent from tbe doe : rine of the Right Hon . Baronet . Ha ( Mr . Aeiionby ) thought that in a constitutional

      point of view that House ought to be the supreme Court of Appeal in cases in which the liberty of the fcubject was concerned . He did not say that motions sLould be brought forward upon every light and frivolous occasion ; but in cases of grave doubt and suspicion the right ought to exercised . He did not understand tCe Right Hon . Baronet to Bay that there had been any breach of the peace until after the interference of the constable . It- appeared that certain language had been used which the constable choose to consider constituted an unlawful meeting . Ho ( Mr . Aglionby ) did not asree with the Right Hon . Gentleman ' s definition of an unlawful meeting . He ( Mr . Aglionby ) believed an unlawful assembly to ba a meeting held for the purpose of carrying out that which , if carried out , would not

      be lawful . He denied that tke constable onght to be constituted a judge of what constituted an unlawful meeting . There must be something calculated to Impnas every one with tbe belief that a breach of the peace was about to be committed . He ahxmld support the motion of the Hon . Member for Finsbury with the greatest pleasure , and whenever be observed a case of tbe kind tbat waa not light and frivolous , be should assume the right of the House to be a court of appeal . Mr . Hawes hoped the law officers of the Crown would stand up in their placeB , and protest against the unconstitutional doctrine of tbe Right Hon . Baronet the Secretary of State for tbe Home Department . He ( Mr . Hawea ) kcew nothing about tbe case , bat wbea li was said that a constable should be a judge ¦ whether s meeting waa wditious or not— .

      Sir Jamis Gbaiiam —It : may save the Honourable Member some trour le if I now observe that I did not S 3 j the constable "was juttified , buUhathe did ifc-atila

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      own risk . The constable observing tumult at a meeting wbieb in bis judgment would lead to a breach of the peace , was justified at bia own peril in apprehending the parties . . . . ¦ . ¦ . ' ¦ ,:: ; . •"" : T . ;•• • . :- ¦; ^ . :: ¦ . ;' ¦ .: , . -v , ;' . Mr . Ha WES nflTet dwamed of saying tnat the con ^ stable waa exempt from responsibility , but protested against the doctrine ; that the constable was to be the judge . He had understood the Right Honourable Baronet to say that the constable was now justified by the Terdict of the jury . Since the days of the circular of Lord Sidmouth he had not heard of a more

      invidious attempt to put down publio discussion than the doctrine now held by the Home S 9 cretary . Lord Sidmouth's circular bad be&n scouted throughout the whole country , and He ( Mr . Hawes ) hoped the opinion of the Right Honourable Baronet would meet with a similar condemnation . There was a long debate on Ls-rd Sidmouth's circular , in which Lord Holland and other Liberal authorities bad held that , although it might be tiue that offendpra might escape by the constable not ; having sufficient power , yet it was better that should be the case than that he should be armed be with a jodiclal authority .

      The Axxorney-Gknerai . felt it necessary to say a few words after the soi t of challenge by the Honourable Gentleman to the law officers ef the Crown . If the papers , were called for ^ with , a' view to any practical purpose , he should be glad to know : what that , purpose was . If they were not oalted for With a view to cast a slur upon the magistrates and jury , he could not understand why thfay were asked for at all ( hear . ) The only paper of any importance , or for which there could be a pretence for calling— although he should certainly have objected to its production— was the ' . ' .:. notes " . of the chairman , and that bad been abandoned ; biit as to ; the copies of the depositions , tbe persona committed for trial bad a right to such copies , and if there had been any thing in them containing matter of complaint they

      could have been incorporated xu a petition , and brought under the notice of the Housa . Aa for the copy of the indictment , it vras nothing tnore than a transcript of a Crown law form containing a charge of attending an unlawful meeting ; and although the prisoners might not have an trace copy , yet they bad been furnished with enough to ground any complaint to that House . Tho next thing called for was a list of the names of the mesistrates and jurymen . The names of ib& magistrates were appended to the commitment , and as td those of the jurymen they must have been notorious ' , and wore Called ovor in court . That House was the last asseniWly in which the yerdiot of ; a jury ought to be made the subject of comment . Much

      had been said aa to the power of the constable in such an assembly . Now , whenever a constable saw any act done ( hear , hear , ) beard any counsel given , or any language used , the immediate tendency of which was to lead to a breach of the peace , Ifc . w ^ s bis business to watch , and take care that no breach of ti « peaoa should be couimhted—( hear , near )—or it might become bis imperative duty : at once to interfere and ' prevent it . BLg ( the Attorney-General ) should be sorry to see any proceialing , the tendency of which Was to put down public opinion , but when he saw that tk& conduct ) of the constable , however rash , had been justified by the verdict of a jury , be did not think the House -warranted in inttitforing . Under all circumstances he trusted the House would decide that the case

      was not one in whmh its inquisitorial power should he called into operation . r , Mr . O'CoxNELii would recommend the Honourable Member for Finsbury to ' .... withdraw that part of the motion which called for tho names pf the magistrates and jurymen . That part of the motion whiiih called for the production of the depositions ought , in his opinion , to be acceded to . It struck him that the parties in question hod been . . charged with . one offence , and convicted of another . The offence with v » hich they were charged was , that they had been guilty of using

      seditious language . Their conTictipn went solely upon the ground that they had attended an unlawful meeting . He ( Mr . O'Coariell ) repudiatei the dootrin ' e .: that an inferior officer , such aa ;» constable , should be made the judge of ¦ whether language was seditious or . aofe The fjct of the 'iodi ' tipus character of "the language employed in this inatance appeared- to be exceedingly , questionab ! o ; pd in order that the House might be enabled to judge of it , it was requisite that the depositions should be produced . He hoped , therefore , that the Honourable Member for Finsbury \ vould insist upon that part of his motion . .

      Sir ROBEat Inglis conteadad that no ground whatever had been shown to warrant the interference of the House in a matter already adjudicated upon . The depositions for which the Honourable Member called had nothing whatever to do with the trial . Mr ; T . Dun com be said he should not press for the names oftbe magistrates or jurymtii . The jSOLiclTOK-GENEKAt said , there could be no other object to be attaintd by this motion than to cast a censure ou the magiBtriites and : jurymen . The Hon . ami learned Member for Cjcketuiouth said that that House ou&bt to ho .-a court of appeal . If there were any real grievance that House wiis the pisice where it ought to be niade-known . ; but he protvated against the doctrine of that House being made a court of appeal on the

      decision of a judge or jury in any matter , civil cr criminal— ( hear , hoar ) •—that House was wiioljy incompetent to such an object , ; and it was becausa this was intended aa an appeal against the decision (< f tbe magistrates ond the jury that he )) ow objsc ed to this motion—( hear , bear ) . Upon what grouovl was it made ? Take the petition , which , as he understood , was presented to the Hou 6 e by the Hob .. Member " for Fuisbury . The Hon . Gentleman , the Member for Finsbury disclaimed any intention of bringing charges against the magiaUates , the 'chairman , or the jury ; he declared that he did not mean to ask for the names of the jury , or the magistrates , or the chairman , but yet what did the petition say ? . It proceeded in these words : —" That your petitioners are fully convinced ,

      from the proceedings connected With the trial , that the prosecutors , and the magistracy , and the jury who were sworn ; . to return a verdict iii accordance with the evidence , were influenced more by factious motives than a strict regard to tquity . " Now , he would ask with what view , was-the House of Comrhorts called -. upon to agree to this motion ? It was feaid that there existed no intention of pronouncing censure upan either the magistrates , the chairman , 'or the jury ; then with what vi 8 W was the question raised ? Iu order , it was ; said , that an inquiry might be instituted ; but he profsfssed himself at a loss to discover bow a case even for inquiry had been made but The Right Hon . Gentleman the Member for Cork county bad told the House that he was not in possession of any information

      on the subject , and so had almost every IVleniber who addressed the House ; he would , therefore , just briefly state , that the first count in the indictment charged the prisoners with havijbg crt ? ated : a riot ; the second , With holding an unlawful fl 8 S « mbly ; the third , with aaaaalting a constable in tho execuUon of his duty ; the fourth , with a common assault . Upon the quosti » n of law to which this trial gave rise ths chairman pronounced a judicial opinion , and surely it y / ould riot now be maintained that the Hbn . Member for Fii ] sbury wished the House of Ciraimous to pronounce n cenSurie upon that , for , if such were his wish , why should be disclaim it ? He said he did riot conipliviu of the chairman or any one concerned , yet h'i presented a petition preferring charges against all concerned , he got that peti ^ tion printed with tho votes , and Le founded a raotion npon it . Eich of tha charges in the petition were gone through and denied , aud after giving up every one of the papets which he demanded in the .. -. first

      in-st-ince , he then asked- for tha depp « itions . What could tho production cf the doposittons eifect ? No pi-actical result Ciuld b 0 . obtained fVoni any papers except the chairman's notes ; . for thoso , however , the Honourable Member did not ask . If the House went into an inquiry , the depositions would be wholly immaterial . It waaiuigesteiS , ' . . that if the depositions were produced they would tthow the grounds of tbe cpmniittal ; but . of what iinportance would the grounds of the committnl be Rfter the question had gone before agrana jury ? After they bad investigated ; the question , after they had found a true Bill , after the prisoners had been - . tried , nay , after they had been convicted , at Whai . possible use could the depositions be ? ( Hor . r , hear . ) No censure , no suspicion ever cpulti rest upou the cbiiiruian , upou the magiairates , or Upon tho jury . What advantage could result from agreeing to the motion of tho Honourable Member for Finsbury ? ( Hear , hear . ) :. ¦ . '¦"¦¦ . ¦ , ¦ - ¦¦ ¦ . : ' ' • ¦ . ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦

      Mr . Shejl sard tha this Hon . Friend the Member for Finsbury did noo nierai to cast any iiuputallon upon the chairman , the magistrates , or the jury ; neither had the motion ¦ which he brought forward been fouuded upon the petition , as stated by the Hon . and' Learned Solicitor-General . Tha petition was . not once mentioned fn this notice pf motion . What ; then , would be tha advantage of producing those papers ? The Right Hod . Baronet the Home Secretary admitted that acOBBtable in the performance , of his duty had exercised some discretion ; that he had received an impression from oyert acts , or from words , that a certain meeting was an unlawful assembly ,, and-he" iuteifered to disperBe that assembly without the authority of a magistrate . It was true the Right Hon . Baronet did not _ say : that the

      constable waB justified in taking such a course but be would ask , were the circuinstflnces of siicrji ahatumas to call for the approbation of tho Government ? On the contrary , the Attorney-General admitted that it was inexpedient for constables thus to interfere . Was it not , then , pushlrig the power of the Executive ; Government to a great length , under these ctVcunistances , to refuse the productioia of the papers 7 ' ( Hear , hear . ) Summuirt jus , summa iiijuria * If the doctrine now insisted upen were to ; prevail no ; public meeting could be held' without aucH meeting being liable to dispersion at the will of a cbnfiUble . Supppse 10 , 000 persons were assembled upon any occasion ; suppose a constable— -tax igpoiant wan , but one anxious to do bia duty—heard or witnessed thit which he

      conceived to be illegal , and thereupon he dispersed the meetingex me rornotH ; the question ame to be tried not before any one of the judges of the land , but before an Inferior tribunal ; and such being the facts of the case , it weuld surely b « i inferred by th « country that the refusal to grantpapers was a retrospective ratification of the course of proceeding adopted by the con . stttbie . An assembly rni ght be unlawful , but it would be mest unadvisable to give to the Vsonstablea the power Of judging With ' regard to that nnlawfnlness , and he trusted that the House would agree ¦ with him , that to grant the depoBitiong la snch a ease as the present would not be understood to imply any censure upon the judge or the jury . If the papers wero granted it would be receivtd aa an expression of the c ^ iuion of the

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      House of Commons that public meetings ought not to be dispersed by the authority of constables ; hut , if they were refused , an opposite inference mnat be drawn . ..- ¦"¦¦" ¦ --.- " - ' - - -. . . - ¦ : '¦ . : ¦ ¦"¦ : .. - . ' ¦ ' -. ¦ . - . ¦ - . .- - - . - . Sir B . Peel said that the Right Ron . Gentleman who last addressed the House had not attended to the manner in which the motion ; had originated . It was originally founded upon tbe petition , and the Hon . Member moved that the petition be printed , in order as his original notice stated , that he should call the attention of the House to the prayer of that petition , and induce the House to consent to a motion for the production of , these papers / on the ground that the judge , the jury , and the magistrates were influenced by factions 'motives rather than a strict regard for equity .

      Let any Hon . Member compare the original notice with the present motion , and he weuld find that it had dwindled almost to nothing ; but yet , if the House agreed to the motion ; it would : amount to saying that the yerdlct had been given ^^^ against evidence . That allegation , in fact , constituted the first charge . The second , as already stated , accused the jary , the judge , and the magistrates with being influenced by factious motives ; the third paragraph of the petition asserted the innocence of the accused ; and the fourth ; was as follows : — " That previoua to the Chairman of the sessions summing up the evidence , he find two of the jurymen lfft the ' court XiJ the Hams door ; and , after being absent for some time , the chairman and one of the jurymen returned together , the

      other Immediately following , which circumstances ought not to be allowed to traspire In any court of justice , it behig palpably indicatiye of unfairness , if not injustice , towards the ; accused . " Tbat statement was most positively denied . Though the departures from court were simultaneous ,. it was a circumstance purely accidental . Every one of the charges had been abandoned excepting one , and that was not contained in the petition . As to the chairman of the quarter sessions , he ( Sir R . JPeel ) had not the honour of his acquaintance , and had never even seen him ; but had always heard his name mentioned with the highest esteem , and believed that his services in the administration of justice ( as had been handsomely acknowledged by the Hon . Member for North Staffordshire )

      were highly appreciated in the cpunty-r- ( heax , bear . ) That the House of Commons had no jurisdiction in any case to inquire into the administration of : justice , he could not lay down , neither could he undertake to define that jurisdiction , though assuredly , if there were reason to suppose that a chairman had been tampering , with the jury , there ; might be ground for intervention ; : but nothing ; could be more dancerous than , on light grounds , to interfere with the administration of jnstice and set iip the House as a court of appeal from juries . ' As to calling for the names of the jurymen , the Hon . Member for Finbury's own good sense induced him to Withdraw so very monstrous a proposition—( hear . ) the most observable thing wasthatthe [ Hon . Member had called for the names of all the parties concerned

      in the matter except the very person who had just the greatest ; concern in it , namely , the constable . ( Mr . Durcombe here cried out " We've got it '')—( a laugh . ) But now as to the charge against the constable ; what was there to sustain it ? With regard to what bia Right Hon . Friend the Minister for the Home Department had said , be had not understood him to lay down any . 'doctrine abstractedly—( hear , hear > from the Liberals . ) Surely , his Right Hpn > Friend had done nothing more than refer to the circumstances of this particular case-- ('' No ^ no , " from ; Mr . Hnme and othersi ) His Right Hon .: Friend would not , Of course , liy down ; in that House , without any deliberation , what were absolutely the duties of the constabulary in a most difficult class of cases . In * the present case

      ( which was all that his Right Hon . Friend had meant to advert to ) , ihe' constable had performed a very doubtful—( hear , hear , from the Liberals)—aa all cases of the sort must be jdoubtful , till set at rest as this hadbeen by the verdict of a Court of Jiistice— - " ( . hear * " hear , hear , hear . ) The Jury had found that the meeting was an illegal one , and thus had justified the man ' s conduet— : ( hear , hear ) . There had been , tb 6 > more than one appeal t 6 : Jaw ; the party complaining had brought his action for the assault ( of which nothing bad been said ) , and tbat action had been dismissed— - ; hear , hear ) . Why should . not then the decisions of a court of law . be deemed suiScient ?—

      ( hear , hear ) . It would never do , certainly , for the House to interfere till all legal means bad been exhausted—( hear , hear ); and if once the House adopted the principle of interfering , in cases so slight , with the judgments of courts of law , depend upon it there would not be one night without some case of the sort being brought forward ^ for to the end of the world losing parties would be dissatisfied with the verdicts —( hear , hear ) . On these grounds , then , he hoped , that to maintain intact the great principles of law , the House would negative decidadly a proposition so fraught with danger to the administration of jastice in thin coti'itry-- ( cheers ) . . '¦' •' ¦ ¦

      Lord PalmERSTON said , he concurred in the general ptinciplea laid down by the Right Hon . Baronet . ; but cases might , it was admitted , arise in whieb it would be jUBt tointerfero . It had been laid down by high legal authority in Ireland that in such cases the complaining party could not properly avail himself of the agancy of the press , but jnns . t either appeal to the Executive or to Parliament Now , in this case there bad been ari appeal to the Executive , and the Right Hon . Baronet ( Sir J : Grabain ) bad cohaJdered the subject with , more or less of care— ( a laugh ) ,---the result of his deliberation having been unfavourable . There was a perfect disclaimer of any intention to throw ensure on judge or jury j but the separation of the objectionable parts of

      the motion made it more expedient to agree to the remainder . What was meant by the cdnsta . blfc ' a interferiog " on bis own responsibiiity ?•• That ; seemed as dangerous adoctrine as that whiclx was involved in the conduct of . one who , suspecting fraud at cards , pinned hia opponent ' s band to the table with a fork , saying , "If It isnot a . ' cheat ; I beg your pardon !"— ( laughUr ) . — The fact was , however , that neither of tho Crown's law officers bad decidedly maintained the legality of the doctrine , that a constable might in any case act on his own idea of the lawfulness of a meeting —( hear . ) He should concur in the motion , as establishing what he thought would be a salutary precedent—( hear , bear ) . ... ' . -. ; ' . ; ¦ . . Y .

      Mr . viLtiERS admitted the e- » il of Euflfering illiterate men to be expounders of law ; but , in this case , a chairman of sessions and a jury had justified the constable whose conduct was in question—( hear , bear , ) But that , in bis opinion , made the case of his Honourable Friend still stronger for his application to have the depositions produced —( hear , hear)—for , as he had now framed bis motion , there was no question of the mode in which tbe Jaw had been administered , or any appeal to this House from a yerdicfc of the court , bnt simply a request to have the depositions on ; which the ptisonet was committed produced , which was informattoh that was peculiarly interesting for them at thia time to possess—r ( hear , hear)—for the Attorney-General says that there are many laws which he should be sorry to see

      construed strictly , and his Hon . Friend eraya that if the prisoner was convicted properly , the law is in a singular state—( hear . ) For their informatiou , therefore , as a legislative body , it was important that they should know under what circumstances this person bad been indicted and subsequently convicted , and how far meetings to discuss political questions might be held , or might be interrupted ( hear , bear ); for if the law , as it had been construed at these sessions , was known , it might prevent violations of it in future : arid if it was bad or improper to continue it , this House might desire to know that , with a view to / alter it . Raising , therefore , as it did , the question of the law , as it might be then enforced , he sheuld vote for the depositions being produced , as the best evidence they could get of the matter ( hear , hear . )

      Mr . Ewart spoke amid eries of " oh , " and ' divide . " . Ho thought a constable was not a prcV per party to decide as to the unlawfulness of a meeting . In the Manchester case the people had implements calculated to excite terror in the people , and M r . Justice Batloy had laid it down at York that there must be something to terrify the peor pie before a meeting could be said to be unlawful ; but at the meetliig alluded to on the present occasion there were ho implements calculated to excite terror . Mr . M . Philips denied that there were arms at the Manchester meetini ? . It might appear in evidence that there worei but such was apt the case ; there were no arms ; nothing , but flaga . With respect to the present motion , he must say that fee did not think a constable a tit person to judge of the legality of a meeting . The House ; then divided—F * r the motion .......... i ................ 32

      Against it ........ „ , „ . « .... „ ...... „ . * , U 6 M !) jority ...........,. i .......... ; .. 84 On the question that the SpjeaKer do now leave the chair , with the view of going into Committee of Supply , :: -. - ;¦ -. ; : , ' ; '"¦ ¦" ;;• .. ; ¦; . ¦•; . ; .: : '; . ' " ; :: "' . ' - ' . ¦ ¦ - ¦ Mr . 9 HABiiAN Crawford called the attention of the House : t © the present distressed ; condition of the poor of Ireland . He was convinced that the Corn Laws had been productive of much injury to Ireland ; and , as an Irish proprietor , was quite willing to : bear his share in any imposed burden for the relief of the distress , which was . 8 O ssvere , tbat 'Hiany of the poor might perish of star ^ aUon during the . recess , if not by ^^ Bome means rcscuet ) i before Parliament was prorogued . ' ¦ ' .: '•;' , -:... ' - ; :.. " \^' . : . ; '; . ^ ¦ " ; : ' ; -. - . . - v "¦ ¦¦¦ ¦' > ' -M ' r . FiEtDEN seconded the motibn .. r ; ; :

      ; loW Elioi admitted the unquestioned sincerity of Mr . Sharman Crawford , who , as an Irish proprietor , had ' done inucfi ' . for'tae ^ welfare : of his humblerfellowcountrymeri . ' But thereTwas Aptliing in the -general condition of Ireland to Inspire despondency—rather the reverse . The present distress was © I that usual and . unfortunately annual nature , arising from the condition of a merely potato-coasuming population / and to remedy which the Government had taken measures of relief . Otherwise the country was steadily progressing in improvement , and the people were actuated by a spirit . - ' of ; enterprise hitherto unknown , ; , After a few observations from Major Bryan and Mr . French ^ - "' - . / ; -. -- : ¦ - . . •'¦ •' : ''¦ ;; -: - '' ' ' ¦ ¦ ¦¦¦ : '¦'¦'¦ ¦ '¦'¦ ¦' - :- . ¦' " . " . ;

      ; Mr . O : C ! ONMEti ,, While thantiUig Mr . Crawford for bis motibn , and Mr . Fielden for seconding it , thought that it might be better withdrawn ^ as at tbis late period : of the Session ; no . practical result could come from it He was used to ; the 9 e glowing prophecies about the improved and improving cohdhion of Ireland ; and tha present distress was as severe aa he had ever known , not to much in absolute famine , es hi a general

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      wanfc of employment , and therefore wages . He a 4-mitted , however , that the Irish iGtovernment and indfvidoala were taMog steps to alleviate the difltnfl ^ tkough he contended that the present condition of tho country indicated something essentially wrong ., ; . ' ; ..... .: , Mr . Crawford yielded to Mr . O'Conielil'ff sfiggestjoo , and withdrew his motion . ^ I ; - - ^; : v ' ' Mr ; Hume th » n , before the Speaker ^ pwdufa mentioned the condition of hi « Own coastUuenta , ha having been called on to do so by them it « f puoife meeting , witti their chief inagisteate presiding * When ho had concluded , : - . . :, » ¦ ¦"" ¦ ; The House resoivea Itself into V Committee of Sun . ply , commendng ^ th the rematateg Irish Wstfmates , ¦ The business of Supply occupied tbi rest of ti » © rening , and several sums were toted . : f '

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      . _ ¦ ' Phpbogation op PARtuMKin ^ The rlay rikined forthe prorogation flf parliament MhelOtb or 1 Wt of August . The labours of the Bessionvwill consequently terminate in a fortnight . There TPAs another " affair pSFhonoui ^ oa -Wed nesday week : Mr- Alexander Pollington ^ and Mr . Auguatus James Tankerfield , who had a , dispute about some electioneering matter , met on Putney Heath , at five o clock in the morninif , and shot at each other . Mr . Pollington was severely Wounded in the groin ; Mr . Tankerfield slightl y in the left arm . . ' - ¦ .:- ¦ ¦ ¦• ¦ - " ¦ ¦; ' : ; : \ ¦ .-: •¦ :. ¦ - . - "¦ ; ¦;¦ ¦ . . ¦ " . - : :

      Attrupted MPBDEB .--On Satnrday nfght one of two servant girls who slept in the house of Thomas M'Namara , farmer , at Ballycahane , tobo out of bed , and , Befzing a knife , without previous threat or intimidation , oat the throat of herbed-fclloW , -whoa © cries alarmed the family , and constable Slattery , who was on patrole convenient to the place , sent off for pr . Robert Fitzgerald , who sewed ^ up the -mcisioa , and hopes are entertained of the poor girl ' s recovery ^ Jealousy is said to have instigated the * horrid deed . The windpipe was severed by th © wound . Toe offender , Pe ^ rgy Griffin , is in custody . The name of the sufferer is Catherine Fitzgerald . —Limerick Chr < m "Frightful Accident . —A sad ^ accideni happened to a fiao youth on our river last weelr , who' unfortanately got the rope of a- steam ^ tng COJletf round 1 ) 18

      legs , the effects of which were dreadful . J-op l ® & leg was nearly torn off , the mnsoles , gmt-blodd vessels , and nerves being qrus ^ etf , ' and one df ' fKi bones broken to pieces ; there was also aaexterisiVft laceration of the other leg , completely dividing the tondo Achiilis . The amputation of the left le ^ wait recommended ; but as the frifcnds refused their consent , the arteries were tied , and the best done which the case would admit . As the surgeons expected , symptoms of mortification appeared on the following day , which increased so rapidly as to convince tha friends of the youth that theonly hbpo of saving the poor fellow ' s life was by the removal of tho limb-ran extremely hazardous experiment under such circumstances . The case is , however , going o , a favourably , and bat Uttle doubt is entertained of the patients recovery . —Dorset Gazette .

      Fatal Railway AcciDENx .--Oa Wednesday week a fearful accident happened on the line of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway , which proved immediately fatal to a fine young man named Scott , about 19 or 20 years of age He was getting out of the way of the Preston train , near Parkside ( not far ^ from the spot where the laaiented Mr . Huskisson . waa killed ) , and which was being booked on to a train , going to Manchester , and did not observe atrain to Liverpool , which was coming oa at a rapid rate ia the opposite direction . He was immediately knocked down b y the latter , aud cut across the body from the head diagonally to the Ioina by the whole of tho train of carriages passing over him , and the body , whwh lay in an oblique direction , was onlyieebly attached together bv the clothes . As soon aa the

      train" could be stopped , several of the passeiiger ^ amongst whom was a medical man , got out , but the unfortunate : individual was of course past medical aid , and the body exhibited a shocking spectacle . The body was immediately removed , and the utmost secrecy was observed , the guards not even stating it openly as tht ^ y pass ed the different stations , but mentioning it in a whisper . To obviate acoidenta like these , as the engine of each train ia provided with a shrill whistle , which is blown on the approach to the different stations , it would also be very desirable that it should be put on as soon as another traia appears in sisht . This shows the necessity of doing

      away with the privacy in which numerous railway accidents are kept On the lines of this part of the country , as if the accident or the indues !; on the body had been made public , it would have led to the suggestion of this or other mode of prevention of th © occurrence of this or simiiar accidents .. : A great secrecy is invariably obaeryed with respect to all such accidents , though it is bat fair to state that with all its immense traffic this is the second , if not the first , fatal case which has occurred since , the lamented dt at . h of Mr . rluskisson oh the first opening of the rail way . So qaiet was the occurrence kept that no notice of it was taken . in any of . ^ h ^ local prints . - - . V ^' -V ¦ ¦ ¦ ; :-: ; , ; .. * ., i : ^';' - i ; . r ;

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      . From the London * Gazette of Friday , July 22 . /' - ¦ ¦;¦ - ;;; ¦ v ¦ : ¦ : ' ' ¦ ' ' ; '•"¦ ¦ BApriCRPPTS . -: ¦;¦;¦ . ' \;; - /' ! ;\ ' > - ^ i . John Mills , London-wall , canal-carrier , to surrender August 1 , September 2 , at eleven o ' clock ; at th © Rankrupt's Court : soHcit ^ rs , Messrs . Waterman , Wright , and Kvngsfoid , Essex-street . Strand ! and ilr . Wood , Wood-bridge , Suffolk joflioial assignee . Mr . Graham , BaBinghall . stoeet , penry and Robert Fawcns , Stockton-npon-Teea , Durham , timber merchants , Aug . 4 , Sept . 2 , at one o'clock , at the Black Lion Hotel , Stockton-upon-Tees ; solicitors , Messrs . Swain , Stevens , and Co ., Frederick ' s * place , Old Jewry ; and Mr . Scaif © , NewcastlB-upon-Tyne . ' : " ¦ ' ¦¦ ; . ¦ ¦ ¦ - ' - ¦ ' '" : ; [ : ¦ :: ' : '¦ '¦ ' . . - . > : : - . _ : . ¦¦ ' . ' George Skipp , Hauloy Castle , Worcestershire ; cider-merchant , August 1 , September 2 , at eleven o ' clock , at the . office of Mr . Elgie , Worcester : soli * eitors , Messrs . Clarke and Metcalfe , LbcolnVinn-Fields j Mr . Reece , Xsdbury ; and Mr . Elgie , ' Won cester . . . ¦ •¦ : . . ' : ¦ . ¦ ¦; : . ;"'¦¦; . ¦ , •¦• . :-. ' - ' : ' :

      Charles Timimls , Stone , SJtaffordflhire , flint-grinder , August 13 , September 2 , at : twelve e ' clock , at Treatham Inn , Trsntham ; solicitors , Mr . Smith , SouthhamptOB Buildings ; and Mr . Harding , Burslem . William Seddon and Francis Jordan , SL Helen ' s Lancashire , millers , August 3 , September 2 , at twelve b ^ lock . at the Clarendon rooms , Liverpool : solict * tora , Messrs . Battye , Fisher , and Sudlow , Chancerylane ; and Messrs . Crump and Hassell , Liverpool . Lawrence Yablonsky , Birmingham , jeweller , Aug . 1 , Sept ,. 2 , at eleven o ' clock , at the Waterioo-rooms , Birmingham : splicitors , Mr . Stafford , Buckingham-st , Strand ; and Mr . Harding , Birmingham . Samuel Rusbton , Nottingham , ironmonger , July 29 , September 2 , at two o ' clock , at the George IV . Inn , Nottingham : solicitors , Mr . ¦ " Yallop , Fornival ' s-iim ; and Messrs . Parsons , Nottingham . : ¦

      John Walsh and Elijah Halford , Nottingham , tailors , July 29 , September 2 , at twelw o ' clock , at the George iy » . Inn , Nottingham : solicit « rs , Mr . Taylor , Featherst 6 ne-building 8 , Holborn ; and Mr . Lees , Not ; tingham . ; .:-: ' ¦ . " ' . ¦ ' ¦¦ : '¦ ¦¦ ' . ' . ' . ' - ¦ .-. ¦ ' . ' '' ' '¦'¦ '¦ .

      PARTNERSHIPS DTSSOLVED . Heaton Mersey Bleaching Company , Heatpn Mersey and Manchester . —Plaxton and Robinson , Beverly , Yorkshire , linendrapers , —Pilling and Curry > Liverpool , commission inerchants . , S . Greg and Co ., Qaarry-bank , an * BolUngton , Cheshire and Lancaster , Caton and Bury , Lancashire , spiaiere . S . and W . Jenea , : and J . " VV , Jbnea ; Liverpool , boat-buildera . J . Hobson and M . tWalkeri carriers twWeen Yotksvnd Leeds . Messra . Deni 8 on , Brothers , Guiseely , Yorkshire , ; scribWing andfuHing millers . Greenwood and Johnson , Halifax Yorkshire , cotton spianerH . Fawcet , Preston , and Co . Liverpool , iron-founders ; as for as regards W . R » Preston . - ¦ . ¦"¦' ¦ : " ¦ " ; . - . ¦ ¦?¦ ¦ ¦' . , ¦ '¦ ¦ ¦ : ' " ¦ '¦ ¦ - ' — ' . : ¦ . 'X ' . ' : ¦' . ¦ ¦" .-

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      ; : : - , ' --- ' ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ' .. - ;' - . .. " , m . - ' . .. ¦ ¦ : ¦ ' .. •;; ... " ¦ ¦ From the Gazette of i ' wsday , July 2 Q . . '• : ¦ ¦ ' ' ¦ . , ' . ; . :- . . ' ;• "' . ' ; BANKRUPTS . " ¦ ' - / -. . . ; -. ¦ ¦ . ' . " : '¦ ••>^' . . George chapman , cowkeepor , Islington , to surrender Aug . 2 , at one , and Sept Gi at eleven , at tbe Court ; ft ! Bankruptcy , Belcher , official assignee ; . WiUla ina ^ Alfred-place , Bedford-square . : . ' J . ~ > ; . John Lang , Simuel Armitage , Richard Redfearn , and John Sykes , . blanket manufacturers , Iiiversed ^ e , York , Attgv 6 , and Sept . 6 , at the George Hotel , Huddersfleld . Jaciiues , Battye and ; Edwards , JEily-pLuje , London ; Watts . Dawsfcury . . ; V i ^

      Daniel Hodgson , banker , Sandwich , Kent , Aug . 16 , afsQven , and Sept . 6 , at eleven , at tho Bell Inn , S » nd « wich . Rowland and Young , White Lion- Court , Cera hill , London . " ¦ . , .. ; .. ' ,. '' - ¦ - " .. ; . -. '' . ' , . ; ' sj : ' ;; .. " " . •/•• • / - . . ¦ . }> . Thomaa Henry Munday , book ^ ller , Fore-atreet , Cripr plegate , Aug . 6 , at one , and : Sspt ( 5 , at two , at the Court of Bankruptcy . Ed ward 'a , official assignee ; Frederick ' * place , Old Jewry ;; Nicholsoa aad Parker , Throgmortoft * street . / , : ¦¦¦ . : ¦ : . /¦ '¦ . - " ; ' : " . ' '¦ . --: ; . ¦; . ;; : - , <• ; : ¦ : . - - ¦ - ¦ •¦ 1 John Cotton , hosier , Notiingaajn , Ang . 3 , at twelT ^ and . Sap ; t . 6 ;¦ ¦ at' ¦ itwcv ; ' . at ¦ ihe . ^ € ^ prge ¦ ¦ l . v . ^ i ^ n , 'W ^ i ' ^ ham , Yallop , FomivalVinn , London ; ParBons , Not * thigharh . ^ ; - , . v - ' :, ; ¦;; , \ ; - ; > -. ¦ , . : '' . : ¦/ '¦ . ¦ -s . " - ¦¦' :. . . -.. ' . ¦ ' ' - " Edward Wilkins , linen draper , Swansea * ^ ?* 2 . fp and Sept . 6 ; i yfc eleven , ^ at the Bush Inn , Swansea .: ; W $ * Iiain 8 and David , Swansea ; -: ' - - ' : - v : V : * .- . ' . ¦ . ' *; ' : : ^ « imuw . uuu ju ^ uiiU | . u rraugQUa , ¦ ¦ : - : . . ¦ -. ¦ * ^* t'l

      Elizabeth Fairclongh Richardson , publican , Mm ™? * ter , Aug . 8 , and Sept . « , at ten , at the CoftraiWbn ^ Brooms , Mancheater . . Jaaaes , Battye , and " E 4 waras ; ESf Plaw . Iiondon ; Heatii , > Ianchester . ; , ~^ JolW Scott , gun maker , Birmingham , Aug . Ah at ten , and S « pfc . 9 , at three s at the Commisstonerr Roonia , Mancheater . Johnson , Sonj and Weatfterau ^ Temple , London . Higson and Son , Manchester . ¦ JohnDickins , upholsterer , Northampton , Aug . 5 » o Sept . 3 , at ten , ; at theAngti Hotel , NorthampW Wing and T wining , Gray ' s-inn-square , London ; Py well , Noithampton . ¦; '•" . •"• -.-. ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ .. ' ¦ : '¦;' : ' ]'' . Andrew Xeighton , merchant Urerpool , Ang-13 , and Sept . 6 , at two at the Clarfl » don-B ) oms , lifapool . Tincent and Sherwood , Temple , London ; Littledale and Bardawell , Liverpool . : :

      » James Metcalfe and Thomas Metcalfe , ujpbolateretf Cambridge , Aug . g , at eleven , and Sept 6 , at batf-pa 9 t one , at the Court of Bankruptcy , Grabani , offlcW assignw , BMinghall-fltreet ; Gidiey , EArl-streetj Biack-Jri&ri ' -:. - . ' ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ " ' - ¦ "' ¦ ' ' ' , " ¦ ¦ . ¦ - ¦¦ . ' ¦ ¦¦ - . - ¦ \ ' - ' : ¦ - ' - .:... ¦ ' ''

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      had increased their unpopularity ; and he would bring that branch of the subject before the House early in the next Session . Captain Berkeley approved of tbe BilL Colontl SiBTBOBP thought the Bill might be less objectionable if tbe Assistant-Commissioners were abolished , and the discretion of the Guardians enlarged . Ganaral Johnson was at a less to know the real tenour of the Bill , which waa dismantled of a msjority of its clauses in committee , and had not been printed since . The House then

      divided—For tbe third reading . 103 Against it 30 Majority for the Bill .. ......... 73 Sir T . Acxakd moved a clause authorising guardians to appoint local committees for receiving the applications of the poor in parishes at a distance from the meeting-place of tbe board of guardians . Sir C . Napieb seconded the motion . Several other Members concurred in recommending Sir T . Acland ' s clause to the House . The clause \ ras then agreed to ; but , on the question " that the Bill do pass , " Mr . Fielden took another division in which be was unsuccessful .

      On the motion for going into Committee of Supply , ilr . GlBSOS moved , as an amendment , that the House Bbonia go into Committee to consider tho distress of tbe country . He endeavoured to justify himself in this repetition of impediment to the Sapply by referring to constitutional practice , and by professing his belief tbat Ministers themselves were not yet sufficiently aware of tbe extent of tbe distress . It had been said tbAt the proportion of uninhabited houBes had not increased ; but tbe houses were inhabited by persona who could not pay tbeir rents . The late increase in tbe consumption of sugar , which had been cited as evidence cf an improvement , showed only that tbe measure of tbe late Government respecting sugar was one which would have benefitted tbe country . He then read a

      variety of reports from Manchester , which he regarded as affording accurate samples of tbe general Etate of the manufacturing districts- He went through the trades ef tbe grocer , the butcher , the draper , and the corn and fiour dealer ; observing tbat their condition was a fair criterion of the condition of the working classes around them . The persons best competent to judge sa-w no prospect of improvement . There might be variations ; tbe fever m 5 gbt be intermittent ; but it cocstitnted a permanent disease . It "was one ¦ which had been long predicted , particularly by the Manchester Chamber of Commerce , in a petition pressing for tbe removal of all import duties on food . Tbat representation was made in 1533 , ai ? d had been repeated in every subsequent vear ; and the like opinions bad been expressed by the

      , Liverpool BroLera * Association , whicb was net , like the ; Manchester Chamber of Commerce a body maintaining : Radical politics . Tbe only remedy waa the free admission of . food ; and whatever ills might be feared by \ some from that measure , they could hardly be -worse tban the ills already endured . The restrictive laws ' ¦ prevenicd that demand which a free exchange would [ have created for manufactures , and whieb would have i obviated any disadvantage supposed to resu ; t from i machiEery . Tha increased consumption of cotton was ! no evidence tbat employment and -wages had increased ; \ nor was the erection of a new miil or two a proof tnat : maBuficturing industry was on the advance . . He prc-1 tested asainst tbe doctrine of those who -thought it politic to repress manufactures , les ^ the towns should breed a population dangerous to our institutions . This , ia . othsr -words , wris to affirm" that the manufacturtra

      cughi to be starved down to a certain point . Yt , t such , he Baid , was the theory now promulgated even from tbe pulpit ; and to tbat effect be quoted a . sermon of tbe Hev . Mr . Melville . He then contend tbat all these were bat atterapt 3 to tap the fanners in the . dark : tbat the n peal of the Corn Laws was fenown by its supporters to be not fir distant ; and tbat the honest course would fee to say so at or-ce to tlie farmers , and bid tbem prepar ? fer competition . The present was the Stttfit possible time for tke investigation of the exist-Irg distress : the pressing business of legislation was sli cifpcEed of , acd a series of preliminary discussions hid prepared the minds of the House for the sulgect . The coming harvest did not proxniss to reach an average , and even an average harvest did not come tip to onr wants . There ccniii i e found no argument aeainst his proposed Committee , except personal convenience or fin insane disregard cf an instant danger .

      Dr . Botvkixg referred to the declarations of political parties in America , as showing that tbe hostile / feelings of that country against England were generated by tbe laws -which exclude American produce . He Seconded Mr . Gibson ' s motion . Sir J Eastropz expressed bis sympathy for the Euffering population . He gv ? e credit to Ministers for believing that they bad done all in their power ; but unless som ? taing more were effected , tbe people would cease ts rely npon the Ecnse of Commons . Mr . Hcme contended for iir . Gibson ' s motion . The agrjcnltarists thrmstflves -would support it if tbey understood their own real interest . The landlords Were

      much mistaken if they thought tfceir estates wcra their own ; the paupers bad tbe first claim , and the clergy the next . He was desirous of an examination into the causes of distress , and he beUtvtd our extravagant expenditure would ba found to be one of them . The only practical relief -wcaid ba by at once applying the principles * . f free trade to all articles of general consumption . Mr . Villiers complained cf the silence of tbe Ministerial parry , which he imjuUid to thsir consciousness of tbe weakness of tbeir cause . All tbeir promises and professions bad broken down , and been falsified . Public opinion was wita them no longer ; the working classes were now awakened to a sense of the fraud which had

      been practised on the nation , and the rent-receivcra had lost their power . The Opposition might fee censured for their pertinacity in these debates f bnt tbeir justification was , that every freah discussion produced some fresh advantage . His own objects were -to Bee the people well fed and well educated , and then they might ba safely trusted with political power ; but tbe first consideration was , that tbey should bo physically well off . Mr . Mi'XTZ felt it is duty to say a few words , lest it should be inferred from bis silence tbat bis own constituents were in a slate of comfort . Tae present , bowever , w * s not a fit season for inquiry ; tbe minus of men en all sides were as yet too much inflamed for any calm exam ' . nation .

      Mr . Cobden addressed the House upon the mam question . He denounced the landlords as hypocrites in affecting that they maintained the present Corn Law for the sako of the rural labourers , when the rural labourers were actually in a condition little better than that of tbo manufacturers themselves . When Sir Robert Peel was told that things were improving , fee -was deceived by parasites . It "Was in the power of thG legislature even no"w to arrest the bi « h tariff of America , by a simple declaration that the ports of England wero open to American corn . There had been a political jastica in the prcpr&ss of this session . They be-gan with a law to mike the people eat dear bread , and they ended with a Poor Li ^ , upon which their own friends were backsliders from ihf-m . If , as some said , Sir R Peel intended to carry out the principles of free trade , there could bs no filter season tban the present ; he might set at defiance the bigotted section of iiis own followers : but tbere ^ ras no time to be los t

      Tee House tben divided on Mr . Gibson's motion , which was negatived by a majority of 92 ; the numbers being 156 to 64-The House then rasolved itself into a Committee of Sapply , bnt it being row past two o ' clocfe , one vote only was taken , and tba House resumed . —Adjourned .

      Monday , July 25 . Tn reply to a qnes' . ion ssked on Friday night . by Lord Pdliccrston , it was irt ' . matf d by Sir Robert Peel , that a supplementary grant of £ 10 , 000 ia to be proposed , in addition to the usual education grant of £ 30 , 000 . Sir James Graham , in r ; p' . y to Mr . Esrart , Faid tltst Government -were cot prepired to substitute another punishment for that of transportation .

      CHARTISTS AND MAGISTRATES OF STAFFORDSHIRE . Mr . T . DrxcOHBE rose to renew tbe motion of which lie had given notice some time ago ,. and -which he had postponed &t- tie rtqucst of the Hvn . Member for Stafford and the Secretary < xf Sfcite for the Eome Dapaitmuiu The observations cf the Kight Hon . Baronet on that occasion had been read -with much astonishment and Eurprise by the persons intereated in the fat * cf the uciappy msn who were now suffering in Stafford & 02 L The trial took place on the 2 nd of ths present month , and tliey were immediately sent to pris-n ; A petition and lEemorial were imuisdiatrly forwarded to the Home Ofiiie on the 13 th , and on tho 16 t . li a reply ¦ sras received which purported to be 'sritltn by the

      uirecsion of the Home Secretary ; and yet wben questioned upon the subject in tha House , the Rfrtit Hon . Baronet said be had never received any .-memorial , ami , of coarse , had caused no reply to be written to it . Considering that the present Government never made mistakes , never stumbled over stones , or fell into puddles , this contradiction certainly appeared very extraordinary . It would seem that the business of the public departments was not conducted in a more acsurate manner un € cr the present ihan it was under the late Government . If Lord Normanby had happened to have made tbe declaration which the Right Honourable . Barcnet had . done with respect to tiis transaction , the public would not hare board the last of it for some time . { Hear , hear , bear . ) Tbe question which he waa about to bring under the

      consideration of the House was one of a serious nature . It involved the sacred right of the people to mtet peaceably in public to discusa public grievances . If it should appear that that right bad been violated by tbe magistrates of Staffordshire , he hoped the House would aid him in obtaining from tbe Government that information for which he was now about to move , it appeared a report bad gone abroad tbat a statement bad been made by some magistrates in Sedgeley , that if a Chartist dared to show hia lace in the town , he should be immediately arrested . Mr . > las » n , a Chartist lecturer , however , thinking that the magistrates had no right to make Each a , statement , determined on boldiEg a meeting in Sedgeley- Ha bad proceeded about ten minutes in Ms lecture , when he was interrupted by a constable of tha name of Benmn ( £ 3 'we understood ) vrb . 0 , it Ekould be obetrytti , was the only nitce&s vphe

  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), July 30, 1842, page 6, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct899/page/6/