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KOBTHERN CIBCUIT . —BubhaH , Feb , 24 . ; Befon Mr . Justice Wi fitBtax . "• • - . - ¦ . James Wffiiaios , CharBstbociksellfir , was indicted for jn assault on Christopher Thomas Potts , on the 4 th of October last , at Sundsrlarid . r - <¦ : * .- ¦ jlr . Otter conducted the proseentios , and Me . Gaogsr { Jib defence . : ; , : __ , .....- ' - > ... ;• , ; jlT . 0 TIES 8 fc » ied incase to the jury . The defendant ^ as well known in this part of tbe country aa a leader of the party called CbarSsts . - The prosecutorAm in attcmey at Sunderl 3 nd . On the 4 th _ of October , tie < j » y on which this occurrence to ^ fc place , a pnMc meeting bad been caled intae Amphitheatre for thepnrpose of m emorializing tie Queen on the subject of the distress now eT ^ ting in the country . At tMa meeting Mr .
Bines as well as 3 Ir . Potts attended , aad both took tbeir places on the platform , .-which -was situate at the lower part of the room , with tiers of benches rising up f-om each side . Mr . Potts was opposed injhis political principles to Mr . Williams , being a Conservative . Mr . yfilliaais addressed the meeting and made use of Bomc very strong language , * b wnich , he rsfl . ed * dupon the pgny to vhleh Mr . Potts belonged as being guilty of yie bKtod t > f the people . Wherr Mr . Williama had oondnded , Mr . Potts endeavoured to get a hearing , but for some time in Tain . After several attempts , be called ont " Where ia Mr . Williams to get me a bearing , " -when the Mtex repeated in a jtsting tone , " Oh , give Mr , Potts a hearing , " Silence Potts eadeaToured to
being ver y partially restored , Mr . iddress the meeting , but the interruption was so great a » t be Bpckeonly in broken Eentesces . During this time some one in the crowd banded up to him a pamphlet , published by Mr . "Williams , entitled " The Eng-Ijjliman's Birthright , '' desiring him to read it . Mr . Pota immediately retorted , -with reference to tbe term * of sale appearing on the title-page— " Oh' the Englishman s birthright ! They are selling your birthright at fonrpsnee per doraa . " Mr . Williams immediately struck at Mr . Potts , and , bat for" the interference of the persons around , would probably haTe giv « a him a severe blow ; as it was , it touched his cheek . The great ™? g * of the meeting was precipitated from the benches to waros the platform ; asd bat for tfce facilities
c £ exit afforded by two doors in the rear , ttte supportera of Potts . B opinions -would probably bare "been teriona Enfiferers . Tnis was the assault complained of , and thoagh the bodilyiryury to Mr . Potts waa alight , it was a gro ss outrage -upon bis person , and one "Which , in the eye of the law , was utterly unjustifiable . Mr . Potts bad used no expressions "which went beyond the license ol a public meeting , and even if he had , Mr . Williams , above an otters , sbo&Id be the last man in the world to take offence at a freedom of speech , "which he advocated so strongly ia theory and illustrated so ¦ well in pr actice Personal TioJence of this tied could aot be t&lerated without the most serious results to society , ard * it was necessary to deter Mr . Williams from offer-Ing , for . the fatnre , to bis MIgw cithans , such an iB miH ? ig violence as that "which he bad uSered to Mr .
Potts . . . Jlr . Patts "was called , and gave an account of the transaction corresponding to the opening of the learned counsel .
On his cross-cvsrninafaon , Mr . Potts stated that be bid been a Conservative for . eight or ten years , eTer cnc 9 he had get discretion . Was . 1 member of the Political Fnion . Was inveigled iato the association . Made speeches there occasionally , and -was received with great applause . There was an election in Sunder-Jsad shortly before this meeting- Was not aware "that any Chartists had votes Was . ags ; nt of ibe Conserva-Cts candidate . The meeting was called to address her Majesty , and pray her not to prorogue Parliament until ths present distress was considered . The requisiticanfcts -were principally Whigs . His object in attending tie met&g wm to pre-rent misrepresentation . A charge was brought against the Conservatives of h&Ting blred working men to disturb the meeting . A person .
wbo w& 3 present , a sawyer , eame forward to offer proof cf the charge . His izaster xras prtsent , acd said be t& 3 a drcnkai reprobate . Witness did not call him so . Did say te was a discarded serrant . Did * jot know of any men being hired to disturb the meeting . YfQlisms spote first He made a violent speech , it was Tery violent in it ? tenor , though he might not speak so loud , or so Saently , as the ^ Fitness . Witness Tat much interrupted . Was determined Messrs . Wil-5 sms and BInns should not haTe the last "word They bad alleged that the ConserratiTes bad the blood of the country upon them . Witness called out tasntassly , -where is Mr . Willisms to get me a hearing ?
isTng peroeired that at these meetings a certain move-B £ Bi cf ha handa was immediately fallowed -by a total Eknce . Williams said , appaxendy half in jest and half In earnest , " Oh , grre ' Mr . Potta a bearing . * There 111 -aoiBasaee enough to enable the meeting to hearthereparters might Boes not know who handed no the puspilci . Thiuisit-sriB a Chartist . 'Witness- ^ zs inleniptEd in nrffr " g his joke a ^ c-Et ifcc EagHshman's bMhrJ ^ tt D 008 -not k not ? -whether he charged Sir . "WnThna tnxh . ha-ring sold the people to the Whigs . GffiEot sn-ear what iras said . Did not pet his hand on Mr . WHittias' shoalaeracd say "This is the man who sold your birthright . " Had his hat in hi * right band , and Mr . TTiliiaiLS was on that ride . The blow made an
impression on his cheek . There was then a rush towards the platform . Did not know that this "was caused by tfce snpp-csition that the "witness had assaulted Mr . "RTllanss . Did not say be would be torn limb from limb , fett he would be heard . "Understands tli&t 2 fr . Williams has been convicted cf sedition , and is nnder reec « iiizinces to keep the peace . He repeatedly dedsred ie had no -wish they shonid be estreated , but Ha contrary . Does not know what his future instracfirau Esy be now that he hss baen forced into court . Eai instructed bis counsel to moTe to estreat the z « eognJBncig in caae of a con-victJon , Three other -witnesses were called toproTetheaasault All av Williams appartntly in the act ol striking tt Ibe prosecutor , but one only could Eay that the blow reicbedbim .
Mr . < feA 5 GER , for the defence , addressed the Jury si some length , submitting , that however tolerant , Mr . "KHEubj should be of Tiolent lacguage , no one ought to be more so than the quondam political unionist and ontor . He complained of the spirit -with , -which ths prwBcotion was conducted , and which was so jiroagly & * fixse& in the eTidaice of Mr . Potts , -whose object wm not justice , fent the gratification of his malignant feding m crushing a political opponent . He should bxn thought that a person of generous mind » B « ld haTe disclaimed -with indignation all inten-&m of taking advantage of the position in -which Mr . WBKiaa was placed , by calling down on his head , besides my pnnuhment -which might be inflicted on
Mm for ttis offence in case of a conTiciion , a far hea-Ti « r punishment is . the estreaticg of his reeognisancss—^ coSEisances ir-: posed on him for an effence of a ( JiffeEnj tans , asd totaliy unconnected vnth the present . Se ttoaghi the Jury -would require better evidence iam they had of any assault harin ? been committed . The meeting -was a disturbed and nedsy one , there was peat c-aafoaon , aD thB -witnesses agreed ttiat the blow 'M , i t all events , an exceedingly slight one ; two ssaEed to doubt -whether there any was given at all , *~ & it "was quite pessible that no assault -whatever had oeen ^ aEl 3 nitted . He trusted the Jury would give the ee&Edsst the benefit of any doubt , and return a verdict of acqEit *!] ,
_ Bis LoansHiP , in summing up , said a great teal of irreltTsat master had been introduced into the case , " * i& "whitb . they had Bothinz to do . The state of psrUes is Sunderland—tfce pClEt ^ cal opinions of ilr . "iiiisas ma 3 Ir . Petls , had z . o bearing upon the ° * ttet The aimpje qn £ StiC ; n ^ ey i ^ d to try was . Wneuiera , ytlow had been struck . They vrcuid look *< tie eTidtuce as to this fact t- ' one . If they were sstsScc thit iir . Williams strutk the prosecutor , or ™* to £ at hia at a distance from which he -wonM prckiEiy fcare reached him , it -would b 3 their duty to conTist iho defendant , -without any regard to the cm-Kqaenets of their verdict . If , orribe other band , tboy itci ^ fct ie t ? id aot so strike , or hud &b j reasonable dcuV t ra its n ^ iei , it would be equally their duty to £ c < juit . Tee Jary retired for upwardg cf an hour , and returned tt » Wttrt -with a verdict of Net Guilty .
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^ PLOSION OF A FIREWORKS FACTORY . 10 SS OF FOUK LIVES , IN LONDON . O-e _ tf tie Qjnj f spelling and fatally calamitons tSpiO 3 os 3 thai has occurred in or near tfce metro-PMss , took place on Mosday , at Mr . ITEinzi ' s fire-* wss manufactory , lambeth-bntts , - by which the Femises } , aTg fccen ae 5 tT 0 ye ( j ami f&ur liTes ha ? e ^ lacrificed . J ^ foilowing is an accurate statement of the facts — a ?^ ca th ? spotj C P - ate hour " last eTC , S : ^*>' - 'ont twenty minutes to twelve o ' c ' ock , the tt « i O ; := rt 5 of Lin . bf . thKencingtonYauxhaUaad ¦ ¦ ¦
, , , m - ^ - ^^^ ^» - ^ —»« ^ v ^ ^ ^~ ^ m ^™ ^ ^^ ^ ^ ^^ j ^^ —_ j »* 3 farrcix diBg nci ^ hbourhcod , were alarmed by & lODd Tfpc-ri sne-h . as is usually produced by the ignito :: of gacpc-TTder in iajge quantities , or perhaps r ^ -ffi ^ Jbg j-,. . sn-ictij the esplosion of gas . This w ?? Didiy ip ]] owe& by reports of less violence of Rand , hrv tufficitmly loud to create serions appre-5 ? D 5 < : - r ^ Pn to persons rerldins some hundred yardB Jftot . The first imprv- £ icn was that the Vaaxhall Y . ^ -A- had exploded , and that the successive ^ ££ i ! arr . e -n-ire created by the bursting of the le"Ks . iaav . ry few minut-: s , however , ths nature
w caian-: ty and its sitiialiou were made manifest » J a ceL 3- bodVof ssioke which ascended above the Jjjasa oe tie uorfh side of Lambeih-valk , behind ^ wl t " - ° - ory ^ Q teen erected some few years "fc * cy Mr . D'Ernst , when hc ^ vis engaged , as pyr-Otectiust at Vauzhsii-gardens . It was a detached fS ^ St Kt ^ att : c 2 . piece of waste ground , but for wfiica circEni-nECfc n 13 impoKabie to specnJaw on "J ^ toc that r . un have eosoed . lue alarm hsvicg rrcc f .-nne abroad , thousands of Persons hurriec ! lo ' t ' -c tpct . A iar ^ e body of the j&etropolitsn police > aii . ued from the station-house » High-street , ard ^ xr-ies-ses were sent eff to the ** TKias lire-eiiidr . e stia . ci 2 =. it several of which the
« &gafi e men were already prepared for action by «* iona reports which they had jiist heard . The ^ s tance ttss prompt and ample , fen-: such was the F ^ r inspired in alJ those c ^^ cl . ' ed by a report " •¦ ^ g giresd that there w ^ re ecjec hncdreds weight
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or ^ tuico'atdgc ' njider groncd , that the most resolute meQ . oft ^ e fir ^ Drigaoe hesitated to a pproach saficieafly hear ; to the fated premises to r . ender . their 6 ffioia . 'f oz its ; preservation effeofive . An , abundant supply ^ f -w ater was speedily obtained from , the main pipe ? , and seven er eight l&r&e engines wera broughf tcr bear on the scath-west ane ; le of the buiTaingv which . was easiest of access , there being at the other extremity epclosed ground , attached to small cottages , the inmates of which fled oat in the most pitiable consternation , conceiving that the whole place must be blown , up . In less than half aa hour , the factory . itBelf was reduced to complete ruin , and the d . wellirg-house , ia front , a slight building , two' stories high , shared the same fete * soon
after . " The discharge of fire works having created sufficient apertures , the firemen directed all their attention to the cellarage , with the view of preventing the expected explosion of gunpowder , v , having been ascertained , beyond all doubt , that there were on the premises & % least six barrels of that terrible combustible . By great exertion , they were enabled to throw is some thousand tous of water directly overjtbe cellars , so that the ground was covered to the depth of two inches , and the rockets and fragments of burning timber , wero quenched as they fell . The firemen , perceiving that there was no further danger of the gunpowder exploding , proceeded cautiously to the interior , and . with the hose of
several engines , deluged the smouldering wood that lay scattered about . Thtir next doty , and it was one of some peril , was to search among the rains for the remains of whoever might have suffered . In a few minutes the charred body of a lad , about 17 or 18 years old , was dug out ; tbo next was that of a man of muscular frame , snpposed to be Wright , the foreman of the factory ; the next was that of a fnll-gTown man , believed to be the unfortunate proprietor , Mr , D . Ernst j and a fourth , which so horribly burned as to present scarcely any traces of humanity , was the last victim found . The latter was pronounced to be a woman , and the sister-inlaw of Mr . D'Ernst , who had charge of the premises . The lad was one of the apprentices .
The remains of the unhappy female were placed in a xhefl , and the bodies of the male sufferers , having been secured on broad planks , -were removed immediately from the spot , and deposited in the dead house of Lambeth Union workhouse , to await the coroner ' s inqnesi , which -will probably be holden to-day , notice of the dreadful occurrence having been sent off to Mr . Carter , the coroner for Sarrey . It -was supposed at first that both the male adults were workmen employed in the factory , but the identitityfcf the body of the iH-fatcd proprietor was subae-^ Qently ' ascertaiaed by very convincing , though rather curious circumstantial , evidence . Air . D Ernst , whoso privrte residence is at iAurie-terrace , a new range \ J hcmies near Bethlem Hospital , was seen to enter the factory about a quirter of an hour bef jre the explosion took-place . " He was not observed to come out , nor could any tidings of bkn be obtained up to two o'clock .
A messenger was rent to his residence to procure the attendance of some of bia fcaiily , in consequence of which a female domestic came to the workhouse , and being shown the bodies , deelaied her inability to identify that of fcer master . All wore destitute of apparel 5 the features were either -wholly destroyed , or rendered undistingaifibable . Adhering , however , to one of the bodies , was a fragment of a linen shirt of fine texture , and near the threat -was discovered a fillet of flannel Upon these being pointed out , the giii said at once ,. *• Oh , God , that is my p = *> r master ! " and she described that he invariably -wore shirts of the finert linen , and owing to his having lately suffered from sore threat , he had been in the habit of wearing a piece of flannel under his Bhirt collar . The body of the other man "was m-t so fully identified , but it is supposed to be that of the foreman . No doubt -whatever exists as to those of the lad aad the female .
The fire , "which was not cvnsidtrable . -was -wholly got under in less than an hour , but immense crowds of idlers of both sexes continued nocking to the spot until a laU hour last ev « ning . It was stated that there wa 3 a very large stock of fireworks on the premises , which had been made up for exportation .
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HOUSE OF LORDS . —Moxdat , Mabch 2 . Xord BRorGHj . ii introduced bis measure f > T the establishment of local county courts to which the trial of aU personal actions in -which the damages sought \ o be recovered did not exceed £ 50 should be confLset !; the judges to be appointed under the proposed bill would also have a voluntary jurisdiction in actions to any amount , if the parties should signify their consent in writing to abide by their decision . The measure bz-3 bean already favourably entertained by their Lordships , and he hoped that neither the Inpse of time , nor rfce change of circumstances , would be found to have altered their opinion on it The Lord Gha . nceilob announced bis intention of laying before the House in the course of a f ^ w days , a bill with the same object as that -which Lord Bron ^ fcam had introduced . Inclnding that brought in by Lord Cottenham , therefore , there -woalil then be three bills upon the subject at once before their Lordships .
lord CaKPBELL briefly expressed his hope that the country -would not be left much longer without local courts for the adminstration of cheep justice ; and the House then adjourned .
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MB . FZiBBAND'S SPEECH . HOUSE OF COMMONS . —Tiiursdat , Feb . 24 . In our last Week ' s third edi ion we gave a very condensed report of the proceeding ? in the House of Commons on Thursday week ; tho excellent speech of Mr . Ferrand , however , comps's us to reprini it at length . After the House had been a ^ res ^ ed by several . Hononrable Member * , Mr . FERRAND rose , and was greeted with tr nie : ; daas cheering . He said—It- wcnld be great folly and ingratitude 5 n me were I to take advantage vf the kind indulgence which has always been shown me by the House , and inflict a long speech upon 50 U at this late stage cf the debate ; but I trust ycu will give me a heariug for a few moments , when you recollect thct for the last fev ?
days I have been the object at -which nearly all the Hon . Gentlemen opposite b&ve hnrled their pointless darts—( chetrF . ) I am happy to say that , clothed in the " mantle © f troth , I have como through the onesided vrar unscathed and unharmed—( cheer ? . ) It ia true the Hon . B 3 renet the Member for the Totrer Hamlets came down the night afrer I had addressed the House , and said , — " Even bad I the ability to reply to the spe ech of the Membar for Knaresborough , I do not think I should have tbe inclination , for though his speeches nisy- amuse the House , th&y are more calculated to damage the Right Hon . Baronet and the party behind him . I , therefore , make a present of him to-tie Right Hon . Baronet . I will leave him in the hands of the Right Her . Baronet , and wish him joy of
him . " i Laughter . ) Sir , I will support the Right Hor . Hor . Buronet when I can ronscier . tiously do so , and my support will be given without any hope of reward-cr expectation of zn hencar as high a 3 thai best jTVtd npan a gailant cfE ^ r below ire ( Sir H . Hardingt- ' } fuT many years < i toil in the service of hie country—chttrf . )—and for the loss of limb which be has sustained —( cheers)—an tc ronx which wasbestoTC-d upon the ilt-r . Member for the IVvrer Hamk-t ; , fur ¦ what servic ? s i know not , by the laf ? seif-denying nopatroc&ge Government . ( Cheers . ) Then , Sir , next cam 6 the attack cf tbe Hod . Member for Sheffield ( Mr . Ward ) . Withthiit blushing modesty—ticud laugLttr}—for -which he is coiifpicnoaa—with that positive authority by which ce his b : come notorious— (/ -oak of laughter )—
be declared that royspetcfl was one efseandalons levity . Then fallowed the Hon . Member ior Wjcombe ( J ! r . Barnal ; , and he told the House that my speech was one of bombastic decimation . ( Langhuj . ) Now , I quarrel with neirber of the Hon . Members . I shall l eave them to settle the dispute zb best they may . contenting mystif with offering up a fervent prajer that i \ may be settled amicably . ( Laughter . ) My next assailant -was t ' aa Hon . Member for Sulford ( Mr . Brotherton ) . I a * k tbe indulgence of the . House for a moment , -whi ! e I defend mj self from ? . cd expose a jnost despicab : ' ,-qaibble—( cheera . ) The Hon . Member , speaking of n ; j speech , eaid , " If I am to judee of iho convciness cf his speech by what 1 fcnow t » be untrue , I stall not va " . ue it vert > . ! ghJy . I know that there are some state-1
ments that are entirely desttate cf foundation . ' Jt will be remembered that I stated in a former speech , that the Hon . Member for Stoekport ( iir . Cobden ) ¦ worked his mills night anil day . The Hon . Member for Salford said , " he spoke from hia own knowledge ¦ when be said , the Hon . iiEinter for Stockpon neTer had a mill in hw life "—icheeTs . ) 1 instantly gavemy authority up to the House—( cries of " No , no . ") I placed my authority in the hands of the House , and said if the name "were demanded I wou'd instantly give is , butl was met "with a general cry of •* No , " from this side of tbe House , which was most generously responded to from yours . In a few minutes after the Hon . Member for Salford left the House I followed him , and offered
him the name cf my authority , to bobw bun the letter , and-tft give him the date and tbe name of the piace from -which it came . The Hon . Member laughed ia his quiet way , and said , " But \ re call them print-¦ works in Lancashire , not mills" —lloud cries of ' Oh oh ! " ) Bnt , in justic e to my authority , I trust tbe Hcu ? o will indulge me by allowing we to read four lines from a letter I have received from my correspondent since He rays— " I notice in the paper this evening that tbe Rev . Mr . Brotherton —( loud laughter )—has contradicted your statement of Cobden working his mills night and day ; bat I know they TPi 3 not deoy working his printwwks near Chorley night and day , nd I have no doubt be i 3 doing so at
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the present . ** Sir , I now come to what fell from the Hon . Member for Westminster ( Mr . Leader ); ho said I made an incendiary speech . What , that from the Hoo . Member for Westminster , tb . e champion fw the liberties of the people ?—( laughter . )—That fioui the Hon . Member , ¦ who asserted that there was nothing but class legislation in this House , and that the working classes are not represented at all . Is it to be borne that I may not here assert as I am instructed by them to do—that 1 may not assert that the working classes are convinced that iheCorn Lairs are sot the causa of the distress under * "which they labour , but that it is the persecution which they suffer from their masters . But , Biid the Hon . Member for Westminster . , if -what 1 asserted were true , then it was my duty to move for a
GommiUee . Sir , I Bay that the House has been in Committee many days—ia laugh!—and 1 dirtinctly bring the charge against those manufacturers before those gentlemen , calling themselves of the anti-Cora L 3 W League . Who denies my assertion ? It is true the Hon . Member for Salford did eo ; but who else ? He stands alone . Those gentlemen out of doors say they will treat me with contempt ; but have not my statements caused a sensation throughout the length and breadth of the land?— I cheers and laughter . )—Yes , I . will tell tbe Hon . Member for Wycombe that that is true . They have destroyed the ^ . nti-Corn Law League—( laughter . ) Ton may lauth , but m 7 statements have destroyed yon . I have forced you to join with the Chartists —( cheers)—it was the only way left you
by which you could continue the unholy and selfish agitation you have earried on for years . ( Cheers . ) You Lave coalesced with thosa who hate you in their heattss . ( Cheers . ) I can prove that ; aHd if you urge them on to rebellion , as you have been trying to do —( cheers , laughter , and uproar)—I warn yoa that their first outbunt -will be to plunge the knife in the bcasnis of thfiir oppressors . ( Cheers . ) Let me assure you that if you goad them on , there is Kifficient force and streajjth in the country to make you quail before It . ' x CtveerB , } Now , Sir . I would call tbe attention of the Hon . Member f * r "Westminster to a letter I have received from & poor working man ; and perhaps the House . will oblige me by allowing me to read a few Hues from it . ( " Read pl 2 . "| I shall do so with pleasure . My
correspondent says— " Sir , —I hope when you have read this you will pardon the liberty I have taken in aildressing it to you . The speech which you delivered on ilonday bas caused more sensation than any that was mado during the whole debate ; because we all have witnessed similar transactions to those you then related , and many-working men have experienced worse treatment than you have described . Nobody has ventured hereto deny your assertions . The rooms of the Leeds Operative Conservative Society were be-Bie ? ed by strangers anxious to h&va a peep at The Times of Tuesday , all of -whom confirmed your statement * . The " Leaguers" are raging at their exposure . Bat I should not have troubled you had not Mr . Bernal doubted yonr statements respecting the Anti-Corn Law
petitions , why , in L * ed 8 , on Beveral occasions , the Leaguers have been d&feattd by the Chartists at " public meetings . The very number of signatures to the petitions proves them to be forgeries . In the township of Leeds , -which contains ah <* ut 87 , 000 inhabitants , it is said that no less than 43 , 000 signatures have been obtained , and in the whole borough , ( ineluding the -women ' s petition , 23 . 000 ) no less than 66 , 000 signatures , or nearly the half of the population of all ajjts . Besides this fact ( I have a rather extended circle of acquaintance ) I meet with numbers who are indifferent to , numbers who nre positively opposed to , the Whig scheme—nnmbers who are favourable to the repeal , -who -will not sign any petition -whatever . The petitions h&ve been hawked round the machine shops
and factories .. They have been placed in all parts of the to-wn ; men have been encaged to go from house to house-with cheap-bread peti tions . One youn ? man , by name R .-bt . Whitehead , who came to work in the same room as myself the day after the petitions were closed , informed me that from Monday morning to Tuesday noon he procured 350 names , for which he was paid 88 6 d ., at the rate of la a 100 . In one yard , whteh the printed statistics of the borough states to contain thirtyfour houses , this man snys he obUined near 300 names . Thi 8 rnan is a repealer , and a pretty fair informed man , and no doubt could tell how hundreds of sham signatures -were obtained . I could fill sheets with incident * which have been related to me , but I forbear , merely assuring these are facts -which I can prove . " Sir , i
have another letter from another correspondent . ( Cries of * ' name , name . " ) No , I will not give ths name new , but I will give it Jo any Hon . Member who will apply to Hie when the House is up . He says , " In all the pa . 'ti of the manufecturiHg districts in which I have Iwen , I have heard the workies" declare that it is truth you have told them in tfee House , and that if you wanted any to corroborate what you have said , yon might have hnniireds of thousands to affirm it I will now put you in possession of a fact in the way and manner in which ' . the Corn Law League marnfacture their prttitions . The other day I called upon one manufacturer to ask him to sign the pa ^ tiou in fxveur ot the Ten Hours' Bill . He was in » room fl ' itd with power-looms , and he beard me say '
peti-¦ tii-E ; ' ha instantly said 'Yes , ' and went across the j yanl i . ' . to his cnnDtin ^ -hoase , and lifted up the lid of I his lipsk , took cut s petition , and Baid , ' Now , you Bee . I think I bavs < done it pretty well . I have varied my j hinu R 3 ranch as possible , and I have put them aU j do-sru , fer I have taken them out of the wage-book . '" ! K ™ what think you of the xuauner in which your ; pet . tions are gf't up ? Sir , in detailiug the misery , tbe , ' plund T , and tho rob" * > ery that is committed upon the j poor working man by the mai \ uf : vciurers belonging to } the Anti-Corn Law League , I am prepared to prove [ that they used the truck system as one of the engines of their destruction . 1 will now read to tlia houses
statej ntut thst -will make you stand aghast- ( Laughter . ) j Yes . it will havo that effect upon any Ho : ; . Member ' YFh-.. has u ber . tt to fetl for the suifoiinrs of the poor . ] I ¦ wihh the Housb t ) remember that I never did charge j tht-s-. ; crinaeB upon the -wbola manufacturers of the . conntry . hut I distinctly cbaTga them upon those luanu-; frtcturtrs who are mem ' vr e of The Anti-Corn Law ' Lvatrw . I know many ma mficturers in my own I neighbourhood who are niun of the kindest natures , but . they tell me that they ea ; u : o-t compete with those manu-I facturtTs vph « are connected "with the League , because they paid their labourers in njonsy , waHe ths leagaers I paiit theirs upon the truck ^ ystfcrn . I -will tell tbe Hon j Member for Manchester , "who defended the nianufao '
Xvlti rs $ Ir M . Philips roe *? , . amidst loud uproar and cries of " Order . " He said | acrt' 6 S the table , ) that bo had not denied that some manufacturers were cuipable ; they were like other clnsse 3 , and there were bad ones amongst them . Mr . Fzbp . aND—I ari obl ' gcil to the Hon . Gentleman , for it justities vrbat I was going to say . I will now give him a bread sketch of no isolated cases , but of many cf tha most flagitious nature wbfch are now occurring throughout Lancashire . " Messrs . blank and Sm "—( iond cries of "Name" ) I again tell Han . Members that 1 am prepared to prove everything which I asseri . If any Hon . Iiitmbtr will move fcr a Committee , I pledge myself to summon witnesses to prove
every word of what I am going to read ; but I trust that , un ^ er present circumstances , the House will agree ¦ with me , that : t will net be fair to give to the world the DKiiits of the parties . iChatrs . ) . "Messrs- — - and Son , , three mills . There is a shop in the immtdiate vicinity of osch of these mills , and each shop is kept by a sou-in- ! aw for his own advantage . T ( it > workpeople are also supplied with coiis by the same finn . Mr . , two mills . Tha workpeople are obliged to procure bath food and clorhiDg at a shop in the neighbourhood of the jniiis . . which is k ? pt by his brother for hia own - " Swaefit . Mr , one mil ] , close to wkich is a shop , over the door of -which bis son ' s name is placed , vrho in a minor residing ¦ K ' ith his father . Messrs . aaci C " ., one mil ! . Tney have
a Bisop vrhjch is kept fur their own beet fit . "Mr . — , odp . mill , ne&T which a shop v > kept by hiB son-in-law , fcr i ia own beneiit , wliO i-i atej manager of the mill . There aro . five more nH ' . s in this very neighbouri . ocd which have outages attached to them . : n = d btl . Egiot ; to th » ov .-nors , iind 'wliic ' a cro occupied by their -workpeople . " ( The reading " or' this dcccEient wa 3 ictt-xrarted tlironghoul ; with loud crits of " name , name . " In older to make members awiuo of th 8 manner in -winch these manufacturers tvaded the penalties of the lavr , I ¦ will Eta to how they arrarge rcaltaw . On the Saturiay night thu working people go into the counting-lioti&o , ^ rtera they are paid their-wages in money , bnt inslead of being allowed to come out tbe same way , they are obliged to go through
a room , in which is sittmg tJ ; o person who keeps the books at the truck shop bsioh ^ ius to tiie mill , and there they have to pay every farthicg of tbe food and clotbiDg wliich they had required during the previous ¦ w eek , and if it could bb proved that one man liad spent even one halfpenny on any sort of gooda out of that shop , he "would be instantly , nnd without one word of explanation , dischcrged from his employment ^( cbetrs ) . Now I call that a tax ut ^ h food —( cheers ) —tl : it i call a tax upon provisions . That ia your free fVft-m — ( cheers ) . It is notorious tint the masters obtain 25 per cer . t upon the whole of the goeds tccy sell , and U :. t they make 10 per cent , upon the cottages they oblige thei - workmen to reside in A key is placed in the bantis of any workman who sntilies U . v and obtains
work at any of these mills , and it is \ ycll understood that that is the key of a cottage built by his master , who will not let it to him under 10 per cent , for the outlay of his money , nor give him employment unlefia he takes it There was a class system—there was a system of free trade nnder which thf . large raa-Etfacturers were making fortunes , yefc they come forward and say tbe landed interest must * yield * 1 now coma t ) the Right Hou . Member fcr Edinburgh ( laughter ; , who has fitated that the members ef the an ti-Corn Law League had not used such violent Ianguage out ; f doors as I have used in this House . The Hon . Member will perhaps permit me to call his
attention ts the language uttered by an individual at a meeting ef the anti-Corn Law delegates , in allusion to the Right Hon . Baronet at tfeo head 0 ! her Majesty ' s Government . I am convinced that , however Hon . Members opposite may differ from the Right Hou . Baronet in political opinions , they will bear record with a generous and manly spirit that be does not deserve he Blander I am about to read to the House —( hear . ) Mr . G . Thompson says , ulluding to tbe Corn Law : — " Cursed law , doubling the primeval curce , turning the warm swe&t of industry into the chill damp of starvation— ( tremendoas cheer * . ) " ( Loud laughter frem all p&rta of the House . ) "He denounced that law—
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tcheera ) It was an impious ? law—( cheers , ) But this wicked man ( Sir R . Peel ) the law-maker , tbe landed aristocrat , ha'i virtually mpnopolissd tho universal fcoucty of GoO , and ,. we ' , starve in consequence of it , " C ; 4 eneVThumpsoa ' sa 7 B / . MHo '' 8 iQulft- 'hi . nis ( fcK Wsden « tionsly , and with integ ^ ty , advocate tha taking a Jarge ruiributiou on the landlords ; how many would follow him depended on thein , not on himself . " My opinion is , that if the people wait till the Hon . and GUIIani Colonel attempts to "take ? this rcttifcution , they will have to wait a ccrsirterable time , ( Great laughter . ) I ¦ will now read to the Houso a speech delivered at a meeting of the anti-Cdm law League by the Hou . Member who has just Eafc downj and I wish the liisht Hon . Gentleman ^ tho Member for
Edinburgh ( Mr . Macauliy ); ha-J been present , that : he . ' might hear this languiige . When 100 . 000 mentteeatened to come ^ down frbni Birmingham to this metropolis— for which they leeeivoil the thanks or tho Noble Lord the Memter for London ( Lord J . Russell )—Lord Grsy said to the House of Lords , " Sit your house in order , far the people are coming down npoh yon ; " ¦ ¦ 'I think I may also pay to the Son . Members of this House , "Set your bouso in order , for tbo Hon . Member is coming down upon yr u . " | Laughter . ) The Hon . Member for Stockport ( Mt . Gobdcii ) thus appeals to the passions of the people : — " Their intital would be tried in a-fortnight or three week-. ; He had told them that the aristocracy must ba frightened . Were they prepared to make- sacrifices and to nndergo suffering to carry this
ciuestion ? ( Cheers , aud loud cries of "Yes , yes . " ) Tha time- - was . not ' , far off when they might be called upon to mako escsificas anrt to undergo aufieringa . The time ruigbt soon come when they might be called upon to inquire as Christian men whether an oligarcy : which has usurped the government ( cheew ) , placed its foot on tbe crown —( immense cheering , which continued some minutes )—and tratuplcd down . ' the people— ( continued cheering)—how far such Bn oligarchial usurpation ws . ' j deserving of thyis mojal an 4 religious support ,: ( I aimenae ch « ering . ) If they Were prepared for suffering they -would soon have an opportunity of suffering . ( Checrs . i When the proper time should come , ha would bo prepared to sot them an examplo of suffering , to Buffer with themr- ( loud cheers . ) " ( Lauchttsr . ) When I
read that speech I trembled froni head to footr-i Great L-vughtt-r- ) I will now tell the House how tiie members of the anti-Corn Law Loague contrive to enhance the prioa of coro . Are Koi \ Jlembers opposite a * A ara that , according to a caltulation which has been mane , 100 , 000 quarters of wheat are annually consumed by tho men of the AnttGorn Law ¦ Lea gue , to enable them to defraud tlie public by daubing their calicoea with flour paste ?—( great laughter , which continued for some moments . ) Some Hou . Gentlenidn opposite do not laugh ; they see the mnrder is but- ^—( renewed laughter . ) I can prove what I have just assorted by tlio evidence of manufacturer ^ of the highest staading in the country , who are prepared to coma forward and bear put my statoments , " and expose this
system of roobc-ry and plunder—( hear . ) It was only the other day that a poor man was transported for seven years for selling to the Noble Lord the Secretary for tbe C Ionir 3 ( Lor > l Stanley ) a few bricka for a chandelier—( loud laughter . ) I have received the following statement from an individual WhOj as well as others , is ready to give evidence on the subject before a committee of this House , if required to do oo : — " Immoiise quantities of flour ore usud'iti the cotton trade to give kf ^ lsa appearance to thu caiJco- — ( laugfeitcr ; and criea if Oh ' . " ) . I assure tho House ic Is true—( hear . ) I assert tbe fac :, and I ask 'Hon . . Gentlemen opposite , who are acquainted with the cotton trade , whether it is not trao ? —I ' u ' eav , hear . ) My informant proeeeds— " Some maunfimturera uso from 2 . 1 ) 00 to 3 , 000 packs per annum .
The calicoes are passed through a machine . In which they are stritched in length and breauih , The iute'MU o ^ s occttsioned bf stretching are tilled up by paste , which is applied by a brush- Afterviards the calico is passed between two roll rrs , which press . ' or calender it . It then comes out apparently a beautiful , fine , stout-piece " of calico , Its real quality is discovered in washing , after both the purcbasamoney and the expense of making it intr ) wearing apparel had proved it to be adeaU loss to-the confiding purchaser . " I will now , with tho pei-inlssi / Mi of the House , read an extract from a letter written by au English merchant , exposing a process which is adapted by catta . \ n manuiacturera of buying up . all the old rags they can . obtain . * ' which are torn up into pieces by a machine , and converted into a kind of duat , aud are then mixed with wool , which Is rvehtually manufactured into oloth . This dust , from it . 9 nauseous
nature , and from its engendering numerous dfseasos , bas been christened ; by the workpeople of Yoikshire the" Dovils dust "— - { great laughter . ) Tho . ? an ! lf : mau to whom I refer , writes ' : — Tilings are Worse aud worse iu HuddersfleJd . and it seems that al ! ia over without any hope . Tho Srvida is leaving this country most rapidly . S- — is paying off nearly 200 of his weavers , because the foreigners are Banding the same sorts of goods over at very little more than half the piica that , he liaB been Stilling them at . I wian you coujfl get a fnll account of this shoddy trade ; it is monstrous , They now put scarcely any wool fnfr » their jam . oaly just a * much as will keep the devil ' s dust together . Tho rags , as . pa know , are coHtiCfced from tbe most filthy holes in Londpn and Dublin , raid are brought from the most unhea ' tby ' regitina , infected fry the plirgue and ovary eEideniie , and of course they are full of deadly poison . B- ——S——— bas had ; i
boat-io ! ie of this rubbish , and iilso buys a good deal of the Dewebury people . When bU goxluareHiaiie up , the first tiruu they are worn they split up , and then tho game begins . Mr . — informs rue that B——~ S- haa scut out . 1 large quantity of doonkins , ' charged 5 s . 9-1 . per yard , which havo prov- " " l to bo not worth : ouofuttijin ^ * —not worth tiJiipr ' s p . L . r <; a They will all be sent back from America , to the hi tuufacturer , with a charge of a * Sd . u , yartl up « n ih . m iv duty , carriaije , freight , cominiflsion . &c . ; : and . iJiiH , of course , besides the loss of tho goods , taey b * i :. g v ? jvl . ijless . If this won't cure him , I ciinnottiill wh " : , v ; i ; . Mr . —¦—has betn on the Cvintluer . t receutiy , auit v ' rjv < : bs saw a small manufactory of ' dofskins , ' j * li n at . ¦ t-t wool , no devil ' s dust in them . The man . beiou ii-v
season , he believes , nadnevermade eii ; hti : en * i . 't ¦ - ¦ :- <¦ goods ia one year . lie haU then in hand an nr- ' i ^ r . J ,. v 1 , 800 pieces , considerably : Iwlow thu price o * ' j-. 'ii : ^! i- -n devil ' s dost goods , pretending to he of tllfc m .: . > ( .-: ; ility . Thus the manuficture ja leaving us as i '^ - \ « s' it can—thanks to the knavery of our ivvaricious ,-iv-vi ;' t < i"i . cheating , canting selves . Notbing can ahoi- oo > - !; . ; ., „ --ness anddeceit more thau this . Theso li ; 1 * ^ . ;; p iy « clearly , that our ruin is deservedly brought u > -m \ .- ; ';> 7 our own villainy . It is well known that t \ . z S ' r ^ ; ii . ' i--ers passed cast-iron cutlery upon the fortigt . tr- f . r steel , until thby ' would not have it givyi ) -, uviii ( . t / . y have had to find now countries to sur » d it tn . ' iii . ' , ti i . r former customer ^ fcave been obliged to iuri .: ufv ^ -s . ; - *; f > r themselves . Thus our canting , professing ( jiivu > tuuis ,
are ruining their own country , and cheating the poor pagans , and all tbe while blubbering about ' trusting in Provideuce , ' and are trying to omko Parliament believe that they care for the poor ! " [ vVhil « Mr . Fannnd was reading the absve extrast , Cotonol Sibthorp , who had fcctn conspicuous in cheering the Hon . Member in the course of his speech ! was observed to leave the House , and soon afterwards .. returned with a large ) oranse , which ho presented J to Mr . Fiiiund amidst roars of laughter ] I will only deta > n th « House a few momenti longer ( the Honourable < 3 eatkinan continued ) , whilo I call their attention to a ineottug of manufacturers which was hei'i fiomo yaara ago in New York . Au account of it npp'jared in all the American papers / and the account' ! will .- . v / itli the
permission of the House , read , is from ; an ' cyo-wi-tnt-sK He says , — "It was my good luck traMena n metting of merchants ami manufacturersi--oonv « ri »; -i in the Town Hall , for the pnrpose ci" ' considering ti ^ best nieHn ? of protecting the manufucturers of the United states . ' Ti > o lutetiug v . as composed of mai : ufucturors of all grades , and very numerously attended ; and a spirioof unani ^ rnity paivaded the assemblyi Specimens of doth . ul John Bull ' s manu £ icturo were held up tot' the gizi t * i the meeting , . all in tatteta , and mothcatou by the paste . Tiicsu wero compared with their ov » 'a - ' trotif . Bt domestic niamjfacture , and tho following , rcsoivj . \<> n wan agrtcd to : — ' Tbat ^ t is the opinion of thid viu iing that it is the duty of Congress to protect thivnmnwfactures of tho United Suites by au augmentation of
the present tariff , to prohibit , as far as possible , the importation c . T i < jreign inannfactures '"—( hear ,, ifab ' iir . ) - ^ i will just c ^ iii tha attention of the Right Hon . Baronfct the Eirfct L'jr . V of the Treasury to a fact \ ybich bas not been brought bafore the notice of the House , yet a most importaiifc fact . Itis > that if the CornLivrs \ tsre to be repealed there would be an immense body of industrious labourers in the Njit ' j of ' : England not only thrown out of employ , but ruined tot ever . That ruin would result from this chueb : —It has been for many years the custom of the chief landed proprietors in the North to lot pieces of watts land to working men en leases of fourteen , tweuty-oue , or fourteen jcars , at aamall rent , on condition that tlu < y shall break up that land , and repay ihemseiTes by the sale of the corn which they mny produca from it . Now > if the Corn Laws were to be ropeaJed , all tfctse man must be ruined ; yet they have as much right to protection frem the country as Hon . Membtrs opi-osite have , and they
look to too GovernmePt to protect tLom . m order that they may reap some slight reward for their labour . They never dream that they can possess such wealtli as those gentlemen ; they say , '' Live and let live , " that is all they aspire to . Then why refuse them such an offtr ? They say " We have let you live—wo wouM scorn to rob you of your own , and it is unjust , cruel , unmanly , nay , dishonourable , and beneath the name of Englishmen , to come forward and advocate a measure , the object of which ia to plunder tfte pooi "—( htar bear . ) Tne Hon . Member for Manchester , who spoke tlie night bofc-re last / offered hia advice to the firmers of England . If the firmersof England look to tae political consbtency of the Hon . Member for Manchester ( Mr . . Gibson ) , they will net , perhaps , think iiucb of him—( a laugb ); but this I will say , the fanhera of England lo ;* to tic laws of their country for protection : and when they lose that protection ^ depend on it , if they fall , you will fall with tht > m— ( cheers . )
Mr . Bkotherton rose to explain . He -felt ne&ursd that any one who knew him would be satisfled that he never could us 8 any expression which he intended should bear a different meaning from that which he attzched to it When he stated that he believed that the Kon . M ember for Stoekpwtt had neyo bn < i a mill in his life , he fully believed that sucii was the fact ^ especially as he used the word " mni" in ita common acceptation among manufacturera (" Oil { " ) He had
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read in a newspaper an account of the Hop . Member , in which it waa stated that he had bad a mill , but , us he found it wan not profitable , he had Bold it Ha ( Mr . Brotherton ) ' did not know where the milU of thV Hon . Gentleman were , and he thonght ha vna peifcctJy understood , when speaking of « •• raiils , " -as . meaning cotton , woollen , « rftilfc mills , where cbildreu were employed , v t" Oh I" ) ^ the Hon . Gentleman , tho Member foflvnaresborbugli , himself perfectly : well knew the meaning that was generally attached to the word " mlllaJ ' ( ' * Oh I" ) Ho iMr . Brotherton ] lifwl entertained no wish to deceive the Hpuie , ana if be had made use of any expression caiculEkted to convey a wrong ideaj he would have no hisitatloh In i > t once retracting it —( bear , and a laugh . ) He believed at the
time what he said , and . thouj'h tho Hon . llember had U 3 ed expressions towatds himself wliich owgbt not to have been lightly nsedi he bad no doubt whatever , . 'that : \ i the namo of his corresponrteni , whose cownnunir cation he hadTeart to them , were given ; he would trim put to . be . one of his own political opponents— -one of thosiB wlio , be would say , were the meanest and the rribstranlignant party that ever man had opposed to him . He did not wish to return railing for railfrig , - or be could have ssiid that he had seen many letters as to the Hon . Member , and the character he had in his own neighbiinhood , and the value that was put tbere upon ila expreastons ; and he would , therefor ^ , coDtent himself by merely repeating , that in what had fallen from him on a former evening he had had no intention to deceive the House .
Mr . ConDEN iilao rose to explain . He said , once for all , he considersd hiaposition in tbat ' . House : to boanyr thin ;? but onewhicric-illed onhim v or : allowed . him , to ! indulge in ijross peraonallties . And ha cou ' . d assure the Hon . Member opposit ? , that however ho nvfght ingeniously dovise partisan warfare of this very clever kind , he 7 Mr . C . ) would never enter into personal alternation In that House . He held such a coarse toi be disrespectful to the country which sent them there , and in two words he would say , thai he did tremble for the dignity of that House when each language as they had heard t'iat night could be listened to with complacency ' ( "Oht oh !" ,. *; Explain ! " ' Order ! " » Herepeat ^ fi that he did consider the dignity of that House In da n 8 er when bo found such language and such demeanour M they bfid witnessd during tho last half-hour , received as it had bsen-rCohl" ] - — received as it had been , with such complacency by the Right Hon . Gsntleraen on the Treasury bench , and so cheered , by Hon . MemberB behind them —( hear , and laughter . )
Mr . Hindley , Mr . Gill , and Mr . Fielder shortly addressed the HouBe . ; Mr ; VittiEKS then replied , denying the imputations which had been thrown upon tha manufacturers by the Hon . Member for Kuaiesboroussh ( Mr . ^ errand ) . The speech which the Hon . Member inad 9 ha » l been received with a glee and eatisfaction which ho had never before witnessed In that bouse , aud this circumstance gave a decided character to the question before the House ; for tlie division would not know turn on the motion before
the committee , but it would be a divisfon between those who entertained the same views of the manufacturers of thiB country as the Hon Member , and thesa who held different opinions— ihear . ) As no dlssentJent had been expressed on the opposite side to the f titements cf the Hon . Member . ; he conceived that those wbecbn-Btituted the majority against hla motion would idflntify themselves with theviewB of the Hon . Member —( cheers and iaughter . ) The Hop . Member had > aid that every petition presented against the Corn Laws had been paid for —( " No , no . .. " ¦' ¦' . '' ¦' ' ¦ ' ¦ ¦ - ¦
Mr . FEHKAN 0 denied that he bad made such a stateinent . Mr . ViLLiEBS contincd . As the Hon . Member denied he he bad ever used tbosa words , be ( Mr . Villiers / acknowledged , or at least the Hon . Member acknowlodged , that be had not employed such language , buthe repeated again that the Hon . Member ' said , that all the petitions against the Corn Laws hart been paid for—( hear , hear , and cries " no . " ) The Hon . Member made another Btitemsnt which he ( Mr . Villiers ) denied , viz ., —that the working classea were not against the Corn Laws . This was a yite calumny on the working classes ; and bo ( Mr . yiliierajflhould not nave mooted this qiiestionyeir after year with « ufc having Ascertained that the working classes felt intensely on the subject—( hear , bear . ) He presumed the Hon . Member was prepared t > prove those charges of plunder , robbery and fraud he had made against the manufacturers . Mr . Ferrand — Decidedly .
Mr . Vilililins understood that the Hon . Member was prepared to prove these charges against the manufacturera of England —( " No , no" )—at least against those who ha " ! subscribed to the association against the Covn Laws— - ( hear , hear ) These charges could not res :. Thoy were made ajainst certfiin persona engaged in n > : uiufactures whose names and circumstances were known , P ?) d it was the duty of those who cheered the H ° &- Mejnbsr to insist oa the Hon . Member establishing his chargjifj—( cheers . ); Ho ( Mr . ViUlers ) conaWeied themoulves justiflud in bringing forward the present motion 1-y the concession which the Right Hon . -Baronet opposito bad made on the subject , and he felt convinced - "that- if the people continued to discuss and agitate the question they would eventually succeed in
carryms ; it . He felt himself further justified in propoaing the " motion :, oy the coutse pursued on the other aido . No new thing had been staged ; . no original idea started —( ironical chef's . ) Nothing but the old stale arguments had been usod—( renewed cheers . ) Tho gentle men on the other side could not conceive that an abundance of food would he a benefit . Another arguuient against -a ^ y ; ' . attQiii . pt to lower the pricevbf food Was 1 that it wontd bo highly inespedient to be dependent on other cuuntriea . H *; scarcely believed that any charity boy in '¦ tbe coxtntiy c « uW be found to venture on such an ai'guvaent . He was charged , in consequence of the inotion he had madeif with disregarding vested intorssts . He was not sodishonest as to disregard the rights of property . But when would this charge .
coase to be made ? When were they to begin to ' change . 'tho law ? The charge , moreover , was just ¦ ah appUcablw u ^ inst a moderate fixed duty , and even igaius !; ibe proxjoeition of . the Right Hon . Baronet , for the RiglitHpQ . Baronet professed to lower the duty ; and if som » of the present protection ; were withdrawn from the landt I interest , it-might ba argusd that some of the -worst itimis would bo -withdrawn from cultivation . ( H ^ ar , h £ 3 > . | . . The argument of tho Noble Duka who-: hu- Jeft tho ( Jovtirnmeat was the only honest one which be had heard from those who opposed his motion . Hii ( the- Duke of Buckingham ) said that the pecpia bad uther a , right to a total repeal , or the farmers htwi 4 ri « ht to their protection . That was a manly and it-tiii-. htforward course , and , however much
in error , he coulit not but respect the stern consistency with which the Noble Duke nnintdned his opinion . He ( Mr . Viiliers ) could understand their saying , " Wo will compensate every niau injured by taking away protection , " but he could net understand io we . ing the protection just enough to injure a few , and leaving others uninjured . He contended the people had a right to repeal , and no ground bad been shown for protection ; \ " Divide" and "Order . ") He could not understand the arguments of those on his side the Hou 8 e , who wera not going to vote with him , but who agreed with ; hia views . They begs , a their speeches by the most violent tirades agaicst the Corn Liws , and all of a sudden stopped ehoft and said , "Monstrous as
this law is ' , and uojuat , aa-. l injurious as it ia , j'tt I cannot vote with yoa I cannot agree to a t « 1 deri ttoppage of this injuatice . " ( Hear , hear , hear . ) He ( Mr . Villiers ) projposed a resolution declaratory of the injurioua effect of the Cum Law , jand that tlie cirtuxstaucea of the « ouzitry cow no longer warranted its coEtinuance . If that resolution were carried , a bill would be founded upon it , and that did not exclude tho claims of parlicQlar interests to coBipensationthat mi ^ - iit be iuj ' ured by a total repeal . He was extivmt'ly Kerry that the Noble Lord bslow him ( Lord J » Rus . sell } waa / ioing to vote against him ; but he could unrterr stand thi . ' position of that Noble Lord : he had coma forward to act aa arbitrator , between tbe pet-pic and thosfi v ? ho nifli .-tained this law . But ho believed his
Noble Friend would find himself completely mistaken , '¦ jind bbfore anotL'er year was out would see snore claarly .. imct distitietiy than at preaent the justice of the claims of tha psople that the law should be totally repealed . He cowtended that the mqtion he had made was neither vio . ' ont ner unrea-sonable , aud he jaatified it by the course which : had been pursued on other mia % « re 3 . Thoso vested interesfa which had baen nigcd as an hy&ument nowt might with equal reason Jiave been started on other occasions . When tbe trade with Ireland was Opened the people then bad vested interests , but the general good of the empire demanded that : measure . When the restriction of the currency took glace in 1819 , the same argument of vested Hiteresta waa raised . Sir R . PEEj ;« - ^ Tbat was not a sudden change in the law . ¦¦' .-.. - . ' > - ' . ¦ . ' ..-- ¦ ' : . ¦ ¦ ¦ : '* - ; . ' ' . - ' " ¦ - .
Sir . yiLLiEBS could only say , whether sudden or wot , tho people were not prepared for it —( " Q ^ estio-. " ) Thty had never thought of vested interests then . Tho llaform Bill ruigbt have feijen reaistefl on fie ' ss m ' e grounds , for under the old systems boroughs were made the subject o ? sctti ^ uient The . New Poor Law had been suddenly passed ; the discussion on that- law did not last three months , and he ventured to say that that jaw had nlado a greater alteration in the condition of the poor eincoit had been passed than the repeal of the Corn Law would in the pamo time . The fact was tho Poor L'lWdiAmors barm than good , and some reform
of . that law must tike place . He urged those charges agdiiist vested intereste in favour of his motion . The great mass of tjas community desirfed thia law to be repealed—( " ro , r > o , ")—acdhe , wassoiTy that the division of that night would force tbisreflfcUon on men ' s minds —that what the mass of the community desired the House tit Commons refused . He was willing to compensate classes that might be icjurad it bis proposition should meet with the accord of the House , and declare that the time bad come when the Cora Laws should cease ; the ( leclnrvtion he bad to propose waa , that tho people wished for a total repeal of the Corn Law * . .. ¦ ¦'¦ ' ¦ ¦ ; • ¦ ' ¦ . ' ¦ ¦ ' - ; : ¦ " . ' : " ; ' ¦ ¦' .. ' ¦ ' "' ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦; . ¦
Shortly after one o ' clock , the Committee divided , and about two o ' clock the numbers were declared as follows : — ¦¦ ¦¦" . ; - . - ' ;¦; " : * ;¦ . ;' . : - . ¦ . "' ¦ - .. - ¦ : For Mr . Villier ' s motion .. ^ ...... 90 Against it ...,...,.. 323 Majority .................. 393 On the moUon of Sir R . PeeU The Chairman reported piegteaa . - The Hguse then adjourned , immediately after two o ' clock .
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V Jlfbndc ^ JV 6 . 28 .: . -V Afe going intp ^ ComrEittee on the Pfesbjtaaa Marrisgea Orelanil ) Bill , the House reKolvea i ^ elf again into Committee on the Corn importation
Eea-MrvWopEHOCSB , ^ presenting the c pnnty ; of Norfolk ,- a , district extensively producing Barley , contended for the continuance of the . exlsUng profection on tbat ^ wlri , and desired , therefore , tbat BOjnuch ofy Jtt » pWBO ^ dre ^ olnaons as related to l ^ ley should ba expunged from the plin of the Qpvernment ^ _ _ Sir R . Peel maintained that part bf . tfce / 3 ; Wn . raent : measure wbScIi respects barlef , as ; bearing a cue proportion to tbsit part which respect ? ¦ wheat . J £ . o had not expected so extreme an opposition , from tne notice giyen from Mr . Wodehouse , in which that Hon . Meniber proposed to vary ths Cfoyemment mesf ure only by euactingj . un ; Ter 26 s . pen quarter , a duty of 133 . insleadT > f adutyof 11 J .
Mr . ; Wodeiiouse , after some discussion aa to < && > form which his motion ought to assume far the purpose of tafeJng a vote on the question be sought to " xa < 8 ei ' . - acquiesctd in the Chairmaa ' s suggesUon of movuig that tho resoiutipcs already passed : should be re-: ported to the House : which would have the effect of clcaing the deliberations of the Committee ^ Hbout the inclusion ol any alteration in the dutiea on bai-ky . ' ;¦ :: " - . ; ' ' -. ' -. ¦ . - :- ' ..: :: : .: ? * : - : ' - . ' " -: . . '; ; ., '' . ¦ - Mr . CPMMiNG Bbuce contsnded that the proposed
protection on barley wonld be too low . He apprehended that at thisduty fereign barley ¦ would be irapotted ti an injuvloiia extent . He wiBhed that GavernmeiitwouVdiecorisiQer this part of the subj . ict , bus had no hope of forcing them by adverse movementa , being well aware thattbey were not made of those squeezable materials of which the late Ministry had been sold by one of its own supportera to bec-inipo 88 d . Indeed ; had everi a greater sacrifice been required , be ; sh ' qu'd have had the consolation to knaar that at ell events it was asked with honest views and
by an honest OoverHJfiept . . . .. ;¦' .. ¦ Colonel KusHBHobKE , who spoke in a vejy low tone , was understood to desire a larger protection for barley . .. .. ;• ¦ ¦ .. ' . - . . ¦ - - . ; . ' ' : ' . '¦¦ :.- ¦¦'¦' .. . ' - ' -, '¦' . " v ' : ' . ¦;' . ¦ . ¦ : : ;; ' Lord WOB stEY thought the existing duty by no means larger thanvras requisite for the due protection of the grower . The universal opinion of liia county , was , -that ' the effect of the proposed reduction would be to add agricultural to manufactuiiugdistress . . . Mr . Christmas feared that tbe intended reduction of . duty ion oats , would be Injurious to the agriculture of Ireliind , and argued that it was oat of propdrtion to the reduction proposed resperting wheat . Ho did not wish , iiowevcr , to ; interpose any praotical obstruction . ' - V ' ., - .-. ' "¦;¦ •¦ ¦¦" . ¦ : ¦' . : ¦ " - . : ¦¦
WLr . CitniSTOPHEii said , that if he ceuld hope , by a vote on this motion , to obtain a . greater protection for the barley-growers , be would support Mr Wodehouse ; but he did not conceive that auch a rjesult could be accomplished by that course : anql wa 3 therefore cf opinion that the sooner the questicu conld now be brought to a settlement , the better . ; . ;¦ - ' : ¦; . ¦ . ' ; " .. ¦ ¦ . ; ,. ' ' ¦ : ; . : -Mr . Sziaw apprehended tSat foreign oats could , be imported at or under-fifteen shillings , and that the-re foie the CfovorEment duty would be ; . top low to protect the Oats c > f Ireland . The great inass of the Irish labourers were wholly dependent on agriculture , and of late had been particularly employed in the cultivation of . oata . ; - .. " '¦ .. . ' . ' -v . :. ' ¦ : .. ' -. - ' ¦ : "¦ ' ¦ ' . . . ¦ ¦ ¦ - ' :-- : \ ¦ ¦¦¦ . ' ¦ .: '¦ ¦ .. After e few words from Sir D . Roche ,
Mr . C- BuIler ridiculed the country gentlemen for not venturiaK to vote according to their opinions lest they should find themselves in a minority . He exhorted them to follow the courageous example of their great idol , the Duke of Buckingham . Mr WODEIIOVS& declared that hia object was only to obtain a recoasideration of the subject from Government , and that he did not intend pressing his motion to a division . ¦ ¦ . ¦ ¦ .. . ¦ ¦ .- . ¦' ' : .- - . ¦ ¦ ' . •' . " ¦ .. "¦ •¦ Mr . PAtMEa ( Esses ) . consWered the proposed duty on oats aa inadequate to the protection ; of the grower . . ¦ ¦ ; ¦; . } .: ¦ : . ¦¦ : : ¦ '¦' - ¦ ¦ ¦ : ;¦ ¦ : . '¦¦ : - ' The motion being then withdrawn , tbe reaolution of Government tfs to .. ' the duty on bailey was carried without a division . / ; The Government resolution as to the duty on oats being next put , ; . ' : . . . " ' ' ¦ . ' - . ¦ : ' . ¦'¦ ¦ . " . ' -, " V ¦ .-. . .. ; ' .
Mr . gMiXH Q'Bkien expressed his apprehension that foreipi oata might at the proposed duty be imported in quantities very hurtful to Irish agriculture . Sir D . Roche eontended for further protection to IrishOats ; '¦ ¦' ¦\ .- . yv- . :: f ' " ¦? . '¦' : ' . ¦ ' ¦¦ ' : "i ' - - -i .-- - ' And Sir R . Bateson and some other Members said each a few ^ words to the same effect Rlr . Redington diverged at Rome length into the general question between ih ' evslidicg ' scale and a fixed duty . ' ; .- ; v "¦' ; . "' . - . . "; : . ; . - ¦' . ' . / - . ¦¦' , - . "; - ; ,. ¦ ' : . '¦ ' ¦ ' -:. ' y ' ¦¦ -. ' . Mr . GtADSTONE contended , that in the new modification of the sliding scale , tho Government ( had preserved the old proportions beiweea wheat , barley , and pats , at each ^ point , of tfce scale , as nearly as was consistent with tho exclusion of fractional aums : the
objectin each ^^ case haying : been to impose that duty , end no more than that duty , wjfiicli would prevent an injurious amount cf competition from foreign growers . With a few exceptions , both the barley and the oats of tho continent were inferior to those of out own countryi , and of consequence did riot , compete 1 with our own produce , even when the prices were nominally the same . He entered into calculations , showing tbe impracticability ; of obtaining any considerable quantities of either grain , except at prices too large to ^ affecfc thehomo raarlret . He feli the impoasibiJity of aliaying every fear ; but - thesafest evideilc 8 to rely upon was that which Government ; had had the opportunities of collecting from all quarters ; - aad this evidence waft such cs convinced him that the proposed duties wera an ample protection . ; . ; y ; ; : ' - ¦ ' _ ¦ ¦¦; ' .: " ¦ .- . : ¦' ;•; '¦" .. ' ¦ : ' ¦ .
Mr . M . O'ConneI / L urged that the proportions had not been preserved-, at the extreme points of the scale . He called for a greater protection on oata , though he would admit that he bad voted for repealing all protection on all sorts of groin . Sir It . Peel animadverted on this inconsistency ; marvelling how a member ooiild have yoted a few nighta ago against all protection to Irish in common with all other produce , who waa now so critical about a fractional disproportion at the extreme entl of a scale . Members opposite vert , load enough about that iasulfc to ths country which they alleged to be involved in tao continuation of any protection at all ; but they were epually loud on the other side of the question , aasoba as any protection of their own cpnatituents was affected . The Jonger these debates lasted , the more ^^ was ho convinced tbat the measure he had framed was the safe and the just as Well as the moderate coursev
Mr . O . Goee was anxious that Government should recoriBider their proposal with respect to oate . Di .-. Bo wring thought that pats requited protection still Jess than wheat . ;' Mr . Baring maintained it to be quite consistent that members favourable to the principle of complete freedom of import Bhould , when the Honse had rejectea that principle , endeavour to ptocure protection particular interests . - Mr . Harford Bald a few words ; and then the House , dividing , affirmed the Ministerial resolution by a majority of 256 against 53 . v Upon the resolution respecting the duty on flonr , Lord Sam don , in behalf of the millers , pleaded for an ampler protection . ;
Sir R . Peel tainounced , that after giving the fullest consideration to this subject , he could not consent to alter the proposed rate of duty . If the protection of flour were increased , the foreign growais : who would be the most prejudiced would be precisely those , whom every man muit admit that it would be \ most pur interest to favour—namely , those of the United States . He proceedisd to show that the existing proteb-: tion was . - 'substantially sufficient . Mr . Linoi / CHERE expressed his satisfaction at the determination of Sir R . Peel . ' .- " 'XLe resolution then passsd . Mr . Smith O'Brien moved that all colonial grain should be admitted , duly free , for one year , or for , s : > m . o other period , to be limited by Parliament . He urgtd the cidims of our emigrating population upon the mother country ; and expressed his . opinion that the colonies ought to be represented in tfce British Parliament . " '• '¦ ¦ . '¦"¦ : \ ' : -. ' ~ - ' ' . ¦ .: '"' . ' . ¦• '"' . ¦' - ;/ . . '¦ : ' : ' .- •'
Lord Stanley , desirous as he . was , in common with his coSIeagQes , to encourage the intercourse of the colonies -vTitb tae mother country , could not consent to this proposal . Tbe agricultural interests , he believed , would feel little jealousy at the introduction of wheat or flour from the Canadas , if it were really Canadian produce ; but , in fact , it would fee chitfly the produce of the United States , conveyed through the Cauadaa If the Canadian law as to importation from the United States ebon ! d be so altered as to prevent that kind of traE&it , then indeed tho question might take a different aspecfc ; . ' .. ' . ' ¦ .. . ;; > . ; - .: " ; ' . ¦ .. ; ' : : . ¦ ' ¦ ' ¦ : ¦' .. . : ¦[' '' : -. ' ¦' . .. ¦ . . '•¦ ; ¦ " : Mr . LABoixiiEnE conceived Lord Stanley to overestim . itc tl ; e Liroportfau cf wheit imported into the Canail . is . Hu r < qaested from Government some explaiiatioii of their intantious as to the ou'y ^^ upon euch impei-tations . : . '¦ ¦ . ' '¦ ¦' . •¦ - ¦ ¦ " :- ' : ' ¦/} ¦ ' . ' : ¦ " "' . '¦ , ' . " . ¦¦ " ; . '" - '¦'
Mr . Gtadstose quoted pfflsial returns showing the yery large quantities of American corn imported into , and ground withm , tho Canadas . The same thing -was true as to Nova Scotia . With respect to the question about the object , of the duty of 2 s . per barrel , intended to ba proposed on flour imported from the United States into Canada , he would say that it wia neither a British nor a Cshadiaa object simply , bnt an intereolonia ! one . Tho duty in every other colony was 23 ., nnd it ought to be of the same amount in the Canadas , ¦ : . ¦; .-¦ : ¦ . ' . ¦' ¦ , •¦ '¦ ¦ : '¦' : ' ^ " .. '¦'¦ ¦¦ ' : ; .- : " ; ¦ - . . ' .. . - ' - . Mr . Labouciiere professed himself at aloss to understand this policy , which he regarded as a mere neediest and ^ wanton innovation . Mr . Gladsto > e referred to a similar &magem 6 made last year by Mr . Labouchew himself a ? to Bast India turn . ¦¦ .. - ' .- "' ¦ . ¦ : ,. : :-:: . ¦•¦"¦¦ : :.- ' - ' " ' . ' . ' r - ' : . '
Mr . C . Buller ridiculed tho attempt at equalising different colonies among each other by additional duties , likening it to the object of the beadle , who , being ordered to put one boy ia the stacks st one end of the church , put a Bccond boy into another pair of ^^<» Tt ^ L stocks at the other end ^' ior tlis sake ot ipllor- ttr J + N& rtiity . " He re ^ ommentted that Mri OBrlen , ittftead i £ ' m ^^^^^[ of pressing this subject to a division tken , ahosld ' i ^ m ^^^^ M ^^ take tbe sense of the House upon it in Cjmmltte « on i 2 F& $ 'b * £ * Z % ? i &t ^ taeBlll . ' ; - ; ¦ > ¦ " V '' : ' ' s-,- . ' :- " : : . ¦ : ¦• . '' ¦ s : ^ -: ^( S ^ E ^ Mr . Sxbakt WoaTiBV . ¦ hii 9 pBt \ 9 i-l ' id ; --: iiem > ith ^' ma p *** fg £ . Govennnent .... ' . . '¦ : V ; , - ¦ ' , ¦ "¦ . ¦ . - " - ' v- " . / ' - ; ' / :- ¦ . ' ^ m ^ mjfw ^^ -jy ^ Mr . O'BBlBN p-rsisted indh- ' ding theHo ^ , « 4 i »^ p ^ if ^> /^ defeated by amajprityof 1 J 5 aaiiast 38 . ¦ ' . ; - ^ St 1 K ^ & £ & « F '
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Northern Star (1837-1852), March 5, 1842, page 3, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct880/page/3/
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