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      HOUSE OF LORDS . —Fbidat , Fsb 4 . ' lord Mqxteaglb gave notice tb » t , on the 17 th of Pebruary , he -would more for a Select Committee , to inquire into the Exchequer Bill Fraud . Adjourned . Monday , Feb .-7 . The Lot » Chancellor presented her Majesty's answer to tbeir Lordships' address in reply to the spt-osh frvni tae tbrcas , 'which -was ordered to be inseated Oi- the jr . uroals . lord Colvtlle broufht up the reply of Prince Albert to their Lorcships' addi&s 3 of congratulation on the birth of a Tri - > ce of ffalsj . Their L ; rd ; hips scon after adjourned .

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      HOUSE OF COMMONS . —Fbidat , Feb . 4 . - I ) nrir , r the presentation of petitions by Dr . Bo wei . vg , 31 r . O'Cox >• ell entered the HouBe , -wearing his gold dram of nigce , and was received with cheers by ths Opposition . The $ - ¥ » . onal orders -were Ttad and agreed to , on the moHvntif . > jr George Clerk . Mr . Brothebton intimated that he would brine forwavd a motion that n ¦ oppossd business shonla t » e proceeds ! -with a ter twelve o ' clock at night , unless lflu Membt-rs were present . Mr . O'Co >'> 'ELi . inquired -what -were the intentions of CrOTcrnir . enT r * 5 p * c : . ng the subject of icarr-acvs in Ireland bet < wi 2 Ep ' . scopaJuiES and Presbyterians , when solercn ^ ed b > Presbyterian cler ^ vmtn .

      Sir Koi'KBT Peel said the subject had been un-. ei the eonii'Jcration of her Majesty ' s Govtrnment The rtc-n- 1 _ » al . if vision had Tendered it necessary that an inun&dj ' ki . e remr < iy should be applied ; and , therefore , a bill -wcnJ-1 ba brought in to establish the validity ot sc * vzl marriages , lime would be token to consider the bes- mods of pro-riding a penaacent settlement of tht gtnersl question . Noiice - * &s giTen by Mr . Cfkteis that the case of Mr . E ! : on , a sndshipnian m her ilp . jesty ' s service , lately riisn .-issc-s and punished fora breach of discipline , "should V * > . roa : ; ht before ihe Bouse . Sir John Easihope aiked Sir Robert Peel -what "were the ingenuous of h ^ r Majesty ' s Government respecting Cl-. tsrch-rotes , as connected -wi : h the proposed measnrt- : ei&uve to the Eeeles-astJcal Courts . ,

      Sir KouuhT PEEL replied » hat the bill intended to be brought ~ , n re . ' atcri to the jurisdiction of the Eccie-£ ias'dc 3 l Courts , find that it- -would net include any provision relative to Church-rates . sir J'iii . n EaSTHOPE becci-d to pnt another question to the R- ? lit H -noun-hie Bironet Was it the intention of her Maj-stv ' s Goremmtat to propose to Parlkm-tit , dirniig t > = present session , any measure relative to Church-rate ? ? Sir Robert Peel replied that it was uotincontfimpkiti- 'j ! to do ho . Mir . T m xcviJUE inquired if Government intended to introdnts ; uiy u . e&Mire f ' . r p-trcg an end to the p h . ^ ieE . lc sy-iem of bribery , to trbich the majoiiiy of tfcs hou . e -were iuclett -d fur theirsea Tb . Sir K"i ; H ;; r Psel thought that it wonld be more convene : that the house should , in the first instance , direct \ i ~ Attention to the is ; port jut commercial an = i rnaacia ! questions "svhicli were shortly to come before

      Lor 4 - ? ui : n Russell irqsired what course Sir Robeic P ^ el intended to piirsns in moving for a committee ot the whole House on the laws relating to the imporiiti'jn of foreign corn . Af rsr ioriw convenation befwcn Sir Robert Peel and l ? rd John Kuksc !! , it ttai understood that the plan " wotil'l bs br ^ acht forward on VTft ; ln . isday , and that the fisseus ?! > n -svv ) 'jji ! t tke place on ti . e SlonJtiy lollowinf . Tha EttI <» r March brought up the Tes-irt on Lhe a . adr « s ; tip ^ n ¦ = fhi cn Mi- O'C'J > " ^ ell took the ' opportucity of .-tsticg , that -a-hile he agrf « d generally-with the r . A * T ' . S * . he -sra 3 alarmed by tha pirarraph relating tj the r ? r ? -tf £ tioa of Tctera . The Tory party had ueyer ytt d ^ -ce aii \ thing to ester .-i the liberties of the people Sir Ri _ .- ' : Er . T PEEL proposed an address Of congratn-Htion to . - ; : s Rr . yai Hsjhness P » inc = Albert , on the birih of the ? Tince of Waits . It -vra * stc ; aucdby Lpnl JoH ^ RussrLL , and passed C 2 ^ 3 ii ! 2 .:-: i «; y- to in

      L -rd Stanley , xn moTir ^ Kare brin g two bi-ls cnnet-:--i with Enigrr . - . ion . entered at " some Ic 2 = ib inr- > 'L = Fnbjeet . The object of the one B : ; l ¦ 'ras to ainfT . i * . t :. » - Act re . ritir . g to tbe cmJuge o pa ^ sen ^ er ' in merchant ves ^ s : and tha oth ^ r to regulate the fosr-TfTsni » i ! rs of ! ai ; d lelcnginz to the Crown ic the A-c * rr » . 'iir ; co ' on . rs anl New Z = aian-3 . Altbough GoTtrr .-n' - did net iat-r . d to prc-pose any extensive sch ^ -aie-. f E : uutrrtion . tr ^ y wish ' -u to give additional fiC . " iitit 5 t-i th-it Toi-cntary euii ^ rajon which W : is SiJeiutv c-H r : r J on to iJ KT- ^ l 311 tXlrllL After detailing

      the c ' - ^ - ' - . i of tee -Ee- ^ B : ll rriitmg to the carna ^ oi the r ^^ i-f-rs L-jrd St-anlej entered at some ltngto into a ? t- ea-n : of th ^ or . j ^ cts < t the other B ^ -l , re-Isnnsr ty til- survey ris . i > - ~ . " . e of la ^ ds in the cok-nie ? Ee .-horrir :: by tzsI-ius statiitical c ' . fc-ils the rup ; d increase cf t ; ur Af > u . i ! ian co " : « - > iiies ; acd then rtitcd the plan pr < . ' -v = ?* . i to b-r estthiished , nxin ? tbe ' mo-5 * ; n ¦ whicn c > :: jr . ial lauds are to be hertsi- ' t ^ r j > Md . Th e sy&rera h - menut f intr-r-da ^ was fcu ^ c = -.: on tfcc rec-c ; tn ! ict-: v . ; cn 3 ui the Gorriraittee on Australian c-ilorisition . lie i . » -opc-s-r ; a * jsi- ; ni c-. imDOuncicd of different

      j- ! ar : s , stliic ' . i - ^ -as Pr thtr . absolute sal ? by auction , nor a salts bj fl ^ -d pr- - -, but a spls by auction , n ; t b ^ i- j T a Tisu _» - . rd v . pift price , the lsnd < intpndrn to be s :-ld hsvivz b « -Ji £ tj * survey fed anO «\ 2 Si . S = d . Op . - ? - hilf cf ri-ai'rae- ^ r-U of the l and sal-i 3 to be stt a = i : ie f _ r prc-in tir ^ E ^ igTiticn , and the ojher half for ccOoriai purp i ?^ ; tne = JuKiti . - > r of the act to be limited to the life vi her present 3 i-je > iy , becins 3 there wtre douVts -wL-ths-r Ae Crown revenues could be p = rHiarci-t . y al ; = n ' it ^ d . irordJ . RUiSELL had listened w- ' th interest to the ststeu . rn - - ¦» ' A L rd Stan = y . After some general remsrtts i , z tL = ra -j ^ ct of ^ migrati-m , he cjceluded ' $ sias ' -tf ; ils -iO . Iety ti ste the aetaiis of Lord Stauley ' s plr , u , and fiy-r- ^ ed his intemion of giTing hi 3 cocx > tnt : oti tc c-rry thesy ^ ic'u int-o

      ifkctiir . \ V . » Jsj « ai ^ o exi-reAS-i iiis sa tisfaction with the statemei . i- ji L ^ r = i Stanley ; and aft * -r some obserraticas fr ^ ui-J . r . il" > eb * cs . Sir G . orge Grey , Mr . Smith O'B / ien , sja iir . Fi : zr . y , ie ^ vs wai giTen to bring in the Bills . Tit Bunr-c .-i- ' -j- 'irr .-.-d at half-past sis till twelve on Sitnnlsy . for the puip-se ot guing up with the Addr = si to her M'lj' - ^ ty . Monday , Feb . 7 . The Speaker rend the answer of her Majesty to the address ia rt ^ ly » o the speech from the throne ; and J ^ otO . Xi > ^"" 'i . >" r ^ ad Uiat of Prince Aiber : in rtply t 3 the andress to b ' s R- > yal Hij ; iiDeEa congratusating him on the birtn of a- Prince of -5 Va 7 es .

      POOS LAW AMEXD 3 IE . NT AND FACTORY REGULATKJX ACTS . Mr . S . Wustlsy . seeing his Right Hon . Friend tha Secretary for the Rome Depaitmtat in his place , he \ ras desirous - -fni ' sKinc some inquiry in regard to two subjects of great ana general importance . Th * se two subjects were tue TcTision of the Poor LiW Amenument Act ant thele ^ tiiation of factory labour . ( Hear , feear . ) Hi 3 reason for putting these questions at the present liia- Tras 'cat -with itrcaid to tlie P-x > r L ^ w no reference was ma-ie to it in her Majesty ' s speech , and fh omis ? : on order , or-ler . i

      The Speaker sail the Hon . Gentleman must confine hims ? U the question he desh"ed to put . Mr . S , WoBiijr saiJ he was merely aimcss to state his rtasoi » s W askitg the questions , i Order . What he wished ts ask his Ri ; ht Hon . Friond -was , What - ^ as the general course the Government intended to take in respect to the reTi-don of the existing P ^ r Iki-w , and alia -wiiit were their intsntiojs upon the subject of rc-julating the labour in factories ? ( Hear , hear ) Sir J . G ^ asiaM . who turned his bact to the gallery , and wis coastquent ' y Ttry indistinctly beard , was ¦ understood to ss ; his H'in . Friend had prefaced 2 us quBstions by scms short though Eoniewhat irregular -ihssrTaticis a ^ to omissi 5 n in the Queen ' s speech . Th « reason thit no notice was taTten of the Po-t Law in ] the speech from the throne was , that it was considered already Kufiitiestiy notorious that the present act would expire on the olst of July next , and as seoie measure cpan the subject must , thertfore , be brought forward , it wss not thought that any especial mention of the subj ^ t wis nece&sary . In reply to his Hon . Friend ' s question : he had to state thst it was the intention of ^ he ? Majesty ' s GoTemmfciit to introduce a bill for the continuities of tha Poor Law Commission ? and in that bill , he Sir J- Graham i should propose to the HocseJ such aittrarions snd ameEaiiirnts i ; i the existing law as npou m-iure deliberation , appeared to him necessary and prudent With regard to the time of the introduc- tion of that messnre . that must depend ob the progress of otiiT business which wonld be previously brought forward . A - fir ^ he conM at present speak df their int « -2 t 5 .-ns . Government < li i not t > rooose to bring in the I

      bill Bali , afrt-r Easter . A- to he second question which Ms Hon . Friend had put to him , whether the Govern- m ; nt internied to bring in nv . j measure for the regula- j lation ef i ^ Hiur in factories , he had to state" in reply that be had f ? . and a bill in his office which had been j prepared , he believed , by the Hon . Member for Perth ; 3 Ir . Fox ilaule ) , in conformity with the recommendations of the conimitt . ee that had sat on the subject ; and he iSir J . Gi-aiiami proposed to brin ^ in that Bill with some alterations . He might , however , mention , £ b ; it those alterations would materially affect the regulation of iuf ^ iit labour bet ween the ares - ? f nine and thirteei : as at present by law aenn .-d ; and it was also proposed to maie Eoma alterations as to the regulation of the labour of what wew call-i jouni ? persons—thnt was ,

      persons bersrean tae ages of thirteen and eighteen ; but j it was no : his intention , on the pan of the Government , j to propose any such regulation as in some quarters had been strongly recommended , as to the liinitbtion ef the time ot labour is . factories of young persons ' between the ages of thirteen and eighteen , to , as some ' persons hope ) , ten hoars a day . —( Hear , hear , h ^ ir . ) i Lord Ashley begsod to know from his Right Hon . ' Friend , ¦ srhttkrr the regulations he proposed with respect feo , emplojHitat of children betwet-n th 6 ages of ¦ ntnft irid thirteen , were thoss which had been recens-Cianded by the committee of 1 S 40 ; ani whether he proposed any diminution in the number of wcrting - iKHirain regard to youn ^ persons between the ages of thirteenaoa eighteen ?

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      -- mt r Sir J . GHAUAii thought that his Nobie Fjiend \ vou \ i on consider , tion , perceive the -inconvenience of entering in' . o any explanation as to tbe detail of the measure at the pressnt- time ; aa , if he ( Sir J . Graham ) did not fully exj'la'n all the intentions of the Government , much misapprehension might arise . Ho would , therefore . , satisfy himself by saying , that no limitation in tbe hours <> f labour of young persons -was contained in the Bill ; and , with regard to infant labour , it would be inexpedient that he should give any farther explanation until the Bill should be brought before the House . In reply to a question Ironi Mr . J . O'Connell .

      Lord Eliot said there -was too much reason to fear that the practice of maintaining witnesses at the Castle , in Dublin , has led to to tha crime of which the culprit Delahnnt had buen convicted , and for which he had been executed . Still he was not prepared to say that * he practice should be wholly discontinued in the present state of Ireland , where in many cases witnesses -would not be safe unless thnsprsvided for . In reply to a question from Mr . C . Buller , Sir K . Peel stated that there was no intention to propese any new Judicial Office in the Privy Council , and * the reports to the efivet that there was such an intention , were without foundation .

      PUBLIC PETITIONS . Mr . Wallace said , that , before making the motion of which be had given notice , be would beg leave to state , for the information of those gentlemen -who had been ne ly elected members of thut House , -what the yractlcu form-r ! y was cu the presentation of petitions . Btfore the year 1833 it was the practice of members to state the subject of the petition which they presented in Fuch manner as they thought proper . For years this svsteni was allowed to continue unrfcr the speakerehip -f Mr . Manners Sntton . He did not mean to say thit ^ reat inconvenience did not arise when such a privilege was pushed beyond the bounds of prudence ; but he contended that the present restrictions were exceedingly improper , b'ghly injurious to tbe interests of

      constituents , and , in- whatever way he viewed theai , more the result of seifiah motives than considerations of public duty . The people expected very different treatment for their pfctitiens from that -which they now experienced . They were first Liid on the table , afterwards j'Ut in a bag , and then thrown aside . He did sot mean to mate any charge against tha chief clerk , ^ ho diii hi 3 duty in a manner ait ^ geiher irreproachable . There was a time , since the Krforru Bill , when the petitions of the people were tre ? . ed with respect . But it was the last Parliament—that Parliament to which he - " e't it fir from an honour to have belonged—( a laugh )—fvr a most ricketty , do-nothing P . \ rliacier ; t it-was , and he felt exceedingly sorry t « have wasted either his time or his constitution on such an affair . iLauehter j That

      - ! w . - . s the Parliament which curtailed t-e liberties of the ; peopie in hiring their prtitions read . As long as ft was ¦ an unders tan ding between members his respect for the ¦ uss ^ ts of th e House h ; ul kept him silent ; but since FeJ > - ' ruary , 1 SC 9 , he had been muzzied . Tiie prtsent , he j was told , was a strong Parliament Tiit > Parliament j which took away the iberties vi the people was desigi natcd a Whig Parliament ; they had now a Tory Parliai ment . It wonJd n » w be seen which party had the greater respect for the rij ; ht 3 of the people , anii . ¦ ¦ ' noTe ail for their right to petition , which he ( Mr . j Wallace ) regarded as one of their most important

      ; privileges . It was doubtless of sre . it importance that : Ministers should be enabled to begin business at an i eariy hour ; no one was more alive- to the necessity than hiifiself ; but great as was his iv-sptct for the privileges I and convenience of Ministers he had a t > till higher regard I for the privileges of the people , which , in his opinion . ! hsd been denied thtm . Hon . Members were told that ¦ they could have their petitions printed with the votes , I tut not . be it r ^ rueinbfcred , unless the House gave its \ J ' . nction . In the last Session of Parliament he had been defeated in an attempt ; o accomplish this object He _ baa b most important petition from some workmen at " Kdso to prvsent , pr . iviug that the laTrs which were

      ! pnssed might be prii < U-d as cheaply as the votes and I papers circulated amongst the Members &f this House . ' He ( Mr . Vv * a : iacei moved that it be printed with the \ votes . His name was But on tho list of notices of .-motion , but the session passed away without affording ; him an opportunity of bringing forward the matter . He I zs-r . u asserted the right of Members to enter into tha n :-rits of petitions presented by them . Under the present retfui . ition , the mument a Membvr got up to say r ; : iiything about ., jietition , another H-jn . Member got up Mi > i interrupted him . If he Uesiied tie clerk to read . : h .- pcc : ti <> n from the table , what tras the constqueuct- ? ' Why , if the petition came frou many places in his < Mr . Wsllace ' s ; country , or from Ireland , the clerk might

      read the petirion . tut he much doubted if be would bt ) ab "; e to pronounce tse namos , and what cnil "WoUid be at-iiL-tf ; : if the Huuse remained in igaomj ; c < . ' of the c true of the plice fr < -m which the petition proc- tJtni ? Sowe modification should be ii : a « 1 e in thu pre-tct stricg ^ . nt rule . al'Jjou ^ h he was uot prepared to r-soiumai ' i u return t ^ the systL-m which prefai ! e : i .: u-iDg the period tnat Lord C : mteri ury held the SpenXvrship . TL ¦ preftnt mo ; ie was unjust , imprudent , : iH . i cacuiated to cring the Hi-use into disrepute . He i-.-lt sere that ii be did nut obtain a ii : ajority on his motion , at lea-t he- would have nuiny ni « re with him than he h ? . d had on tae just division . liewasdetermiaed to a Ihere to the terms of his motion . Mr . Ley reaa : " ae crier wldch ureciu"dcs . Members from cntc . ing upon the mtrits of petitu'Ds .

      . > jr . Wai . LACK moved that the orner be rescinded . Mr . Rosbvck seconded the Miotion . Sir R H . I > ulis s : iid that tho Hon . Member who h :. d i . roposed this motion ha ; l camplf t ely failed t » hring f rw ^ nl any proper arOTi'lent upon which he could f .-un-.: ihe necessity of haviue the present rule rescinded . Did tfcat Eon . Member kcow the number of pfitit > 2 s whiuh on an average were pr . ssnttd t-j this House ? There wer * cu ! e ? s than 16 S 0 ! pf-titions prese : ted to tte House of Commons last session , a- ; J ii ouch a motion as that ff the H n . Mi-mfcer fo . Gretncek were p : ! ssed , they sh-. ) uid bfe pr ^ pcred tu htar 10 SOI " -petches upon > ach of those pttJtions , ar . il perhaps IS S' » l spe-cS ^ 5 in reply . ( LaugiitiD . Did the Hon . Member think if his m"tion -wen * granted , thiit

      he w , uld then be at liberty to make his speech upon the pTe «> -rili . t oa of his petition fr-jiu the nun of K ^ lso , and thai his ( Sir R . H . Ingiis'j' ) Hr > n . Friend the Member for the CL-unty could be precluded from making his speech in replj ? D ; d the Hon . Member for Greenuck & ; as : der what the consequence would be of tfc s st ;; te o ) things ? Why , in the course of nature , it would be i : ; : p ' -is : ble thit this House coulJ do anything else , fruiu tbe beginning to the end of the session , than receive pttiti- > ns , and lis-t-sn to speeches upon them . -. Hesr , hear . ) A discussion might go an fer the period of s ' : x hours upon this one petition from the people of Kilso ; rind , after ail , ^ vhat would be the restut ? Sunplj this , that the petition would be « rdertd to lie vijion the table . ( Hear , b ^ ar . ) And h-jw wj . ^ Id the petitioutrrs be benefited by ibis discussion ? To be sure , such a discussion might be supposed to fcxeite greater attention to tbe particular grievances

      tb =-t might be complained of—( hear , hear , lrutu the " opposition >; but it "was a prait e « which would ; xt , most ii jurious ' . y to tbe interest cf vhe country gererVT ; y , [ inasmuch as ft wou ; d prevent the possibility of getting I through the real and ordinary business of the House . ; lEeur , hear . ) A specific motion miglit at aii timts be j brought forward by any Hon . . Member of tbe House for j * I : e purpose of having his petition read , but it won d : fcr ttXtrciaeiy iniproprr to permit the adoption of a rulo I Mhkh wr . uki made this practice general . He appealed I to that House if , after ai ! , tht result « f Euch a difens' . r . on wouid not be , " that this petition -o or do not lie ' upon the t- "b ! e . " He bad said tbat the number of peti-: tio : ^ 3 presented to tbe Honse iast s-e&t ' was 16 801 , . but the year before the "Lumber of pfc ' . it ons was 18 , 000 . i Xow , was it possible t ^ at this Honse could do anything : elie shan hear speeches upon f . ll thuse petitions , even ; supposing that each spi-ccli orly occupied ihe space oi ' one minute ? / Hear . ) Toe Hon . Member who wouid

      ' ¦ ! \ j j ¦ ! j , : ; j ; ! present his petition HUiht move to have bis petition : read , and if one Hon . Oiember could enjoy this rigtt ¦ what was to prevent every other member requiring tbi ; ; same ? He had looked over the list of petitions which | had been present d last year , and he found that the ! average extent of ench of those which were prittel j was half a folio pace . There w . is seara-iy any p t'tion preseited t- > the House whica , if rc-ail i thrc-ngh , would not occupy two minutes ; bnt I he would ask the Honourable Member for Grenock , ! if he would be even content to ba limited to two s minute ^ ? There might be a good deal of reason in ' what the Hon Member had said , bnt it was phjsically j impossible that , if the Hijuse concarrfc in his views , ! they could ds anything else from beginning to the end j of the session than receive petitions . ( Hear , htar . j i The Hon , Member for Greenock has declared tbat he ! bad no sympathy wi « li tho fifty or sixty bills -which his . friends , the ] -it « Ministry , bad brought forward , as he , dfc 3 Crib- - 'd it , wi ; h such haste , about the menths of June j or Juiy . If that Hun . Member had no sympathy with j them , how could he be expected to have a synipathj j with those which wouid be brought forward by the I present Members of her Majestv ' s Government ? There

      wai already a general understanding tbat when a peti tion was deemed of rtfficient conKqu > -Dce and of such i nature as to form the foundation of a motion in thi ; Hc-Uic tt ^ t it Hi' - ^ ht I htn appear record ed with th < Vvtes , on the presumption that tha Hon . Member wh ( pr ^ senU-d it would a . a certsin period call the attentioi cf the House to the subject it rtf-ired to . ( Hear , hear . Then icdte i it was reasonable enough that such p * . titioi should be printed . He did not think that the rt-. ison . ¦ which were urged in favour of aoy change in the ex idling rules of this House with resjx-ct to petitiun , w « a of sufficient importance as t j induce them to givi up much of their time in the consideration of thl

      motion . Mr . ROEBUCK said he was willing to allow the greai force of the Honourable Gentleman ' s ebsejvationa whi hai just spoken , as to the great evil which would exisl if tbe time of the House were to be absorbed , in the waj the Hou Member for theTJuive . sity of Oxford imagined ; but he ( Mr . Roebuck ! would * n « gtst a conrse which he might pursue und ^ r the present resulations , if he Wcrt at all disposed to absorb th « time t f the House . Whtrever a p-. tition was laid upon ths tahl-j cf the Hous * , ILe Speaker was obliged ti pit the quetticn , ¦ " tfc :: 1 this petition do lie upon the table . " Upon ttmt qne »' V ' . nteiHr . Roebuck ' ¦ h ^ . d a right , if he pleased , tc divide the House . The House n * ktd him to vote Uf ' . ru this qnestioa , without ailowirg hitn the bent fit tf a discussion . Xotp tfat conrse iras ceitaicly ntve ? adopted , although he had cle . riy the r : glt of tikir ^ : ! if he plessed , so that even u . der the ' Tiesti . t : eEuU-

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      tiojis l .. eir tima migtt bo tii >' esi up in this manner . He had also t ' ie right of making the clerk read every pttitionthathe presented to the HoJise ; but was such a ourss adopted ? lu this way ruigu't the time of the Hoo £ 9 be occupied if Hon . Members ple ^ sed / but such a right was never taken advantage of . The Don . Member for the University of Oxford said , that tiere were 18 , 080 presented to this House the year before * last * * ; but he ( Mr . Roebuck ) would ask the Hon . Member how many of those petitions related to the quettion of tte Com Laws ? How many of them related to the question of church extension ? Surely the Hon . Member did not suppjss that if he ( Mr . Roebuck ) had twenty petitions to present upon the subject of the Corn Laws that Jxe would make tb . it distinction between each as to avail himself of the right of making a speech upon each and every one of tbem if the House should permit him to do so ?

      Mr . Brotherton said he was quite convinced that the plan proposed by the Hon . Member for Greenock would never answer his expectations . He had an opportunity of seeing the House before the present system came into operation with respect to petitions , and he found that the newspapers had not beeu able to report the discussions , and the time of the House was solely occupied by a few loquacious individuals . ( Hear , hear , and laughter . ! He had himself attended for ten days successively with petitions to present , but could net get an opportunity for doing so . And then wben he saw so many gentlemen with hundreds of petitions in their hands , his feelings prevented him from taking up the time of the House in spenkin ? in favour of his own , ( Laughter . ) He considered it quite impossible that the petitions could be presented in proper time to this House if a speech were to be made upon every petition . In such a cas « a few Hon . Members would not be honoured with any , because they would be

      unwilling to mnke a long speech iu presenting their petitions . ( Laughter . ) So far from the petitions being presented now in a . disorderly way , and , as it was asserted , " crammed into a bag , " he never saw them tTeated in a more orderly mauner than since the regulations which were thea complained of had been adopted . If Hon . Mtmbars would &nly state what the petitioners wished to have stated , the people would be quite contented . ( Laushter . ) He should like , if possible , that the rule would be reJaxeil so that if , after the nsuai petitions now presented between the hours of four and five o ' clock , any Hon . Member would give notice to bring under the attention of the House a particular petition , he should h . iva an opportunity , of doing so . He did n ^ t think it would be fair that ono Hon . Gentleman should have the right of making along speech v / hile hundreds were waiting to have their petitions presented . He was , therefore , constrained against bis feelings te vote against tbe motion .

      Mr . O'CONNiiLL said , that there was no mode of reasoning Jecs satisfactory than to presume that an abuse w . ' nch might exist would really exist . Have persons been f ,. uud to abuse the privileges of thin House ? What was the general character of this House on those , subjects ? It was quite clear that petitions were treated with a levity quite unbecoming the character of this House -whan it was considered that they had eliminated from the people , whose * grievances they were bound to pay attention to-, and , if possible redress . It should be recollected , that a grout majority of the people were noi represented , and they had no opportunity of getting themselves heard but through the meiubera of this House , who weia presumed to represent them . And , undoubtedly , they had arigut of being listened to through the-, medium of pttitions . The former pr ;\ ctii 9 , he admitted , was somewhat inconvenient , but there might ba a middle course pointed

      out which would meet eveiy objection . His Honourable Friend , the Member for Salford , had made a strange speech in favour of tbe present practice ; but he ( Mr . OConneJl ) thought , thuthe had unintentionally shown the great inconvenience of the present j'ian He thought that it would be the better way to refer the subject to a Committee of this house , which would doubtless devise some other means of giving a more substantial hearing to the petitions of tke people , so that no person should have < i ri « ht to cwupJuin as at present , of the mockery and insult of throwing bundles of petitions upon Ihu table together . He shouid hoiw , that the House w -uld proceed to rescind the resolutions they b * d cun . e to ou this question , and . follow up the course by insliiuting an iuvestigUion which , on the-one hand , would fully satisfy the people , and , on the other , wouid protect the time of this Hou < e from be'n ? diverted from the , practical performahca of the public bufiiii'iJ's .

      Sir R . Pfkl said , that if any insult had been offered to the people who had . petitioned this bouse—if any mark of indifference to or nt- < k-ct of tho feelings or opinions of the petitioners bad been occasioned in this House , or , to us « the expressions of the Hon . Member opposite , if then-had beeu a bundling in of their petitions , the faui : ! ay with tho Hou . Members themselves who resorted t > ; his practice which had been sv much condemned . "( Hear , lu-ar . i A member , under the ru e of the House , which , by the bye , was carried by , a considerable majority , had ev < ry opportunity s ;; ven him of doins ; every justice t > tho petitioners , and of lajing their grievances btfare the House . ( Hear , be : ; r . ) Tho re .-oiutiou said , tbat " any member offerir . ii anv petition to the House mu 4 & . state tins oiace from

      whence it cime " Xow the objection vrnicb'hiul beeu nivle vith resppct to the clerk i f the Houuu not beiny able to pronounce the Lames of 1 vish auJ Scotoh places , the Hon . Member baviug the liberty of stating those names , it was tbe duty of Hon . Member * t » mak <; themselvftS so vrtH acquainted with thun th ^ t tbey could pronounce them properly for the House , ( laughter . ) and not leave it to the clerk to do &o for thoin . Thy rf-soiution went on to say , '' the number oi aigua ' . uiek , ami the material cortt-Ets of tin ; petitions of such persons as were cmiplnining of tbrir grievances '" If the petition cuinplained oi personal vi-. > St ^ : cuur t > tteh gricvani * es as required innce'iiute redrtts , such petition could he at oi . ee tnttrtaiued and discussed . ; Hear , hear . ) •' That all petitions relating to a special object , aurf

      upon Members presenting such petitions , givir-g noticfi of their intention to bring a motion of tLe i-ame description under the consideration of the House , tuth petitions are printed , the Hon . Members giving notice of the day they intend to bring fi-rr . ; ml thu question . " Sow , it appeared to him that there was every reason to treat the petitions tbat were presented to this House with the utmost respect . The Hon . Member for Batk had referred to the ancient p ; -actice of Pariiamtut on this subject . Now , he recollected that wheu Mr . Manners button was Speaker of this Hous « , a question arose of altering the system of making Ions ; speeches upon the presentation of petitions , which was found-to be exceedingly inconvtuit nt , ami the Speaker thi-n said that , referring to the ancient nr ^ ctice of Parliament ,

      he had found that alt discussion had been prevented at ^ uch a time . iH ^ ar , hear i If . tbero-fore , they were to return to the practice of Parliaiiu-nt . half a century ago , it would appear that there was no such thing allowed as discussions upon the presentation of petitions . iHtar , bear . ) To tiy this question with the strict rukof reason , every petition should be read by the clerk at the table : strict reasoii ei-joins this course . ( Hear , hear ) It was quite clear , however , that if this practice were general , the whole time cf tlie House , and t' \ at of Hon . Members , would be taken up— ( hear , hear );— : iini if Hon . Members , without talking so much , did attend caivfully to the petUions thiy were entrusted with , the ccune of business would be very difftreut from that st-liich hod passed . ( Hear , hear . ) He would ask , bad

      this ru ? e dinnnished the confidence of the p-. opie in respect to this House ? Ctrtainly not , if they w » re to judge by the increased number of petitions -which had been presented since it was adopted . ( He ; vr , hear ; Aad waa it not much more rational te have those impoitant petitions printed , by which the number of tha petitiontrs would be recorded , an \ i by wl ' . ich sccess would be always given for the inspection of them , than to revert to the ancient practice which lit-pt no such rtcord of them , anil which prevented . reference to them afterwards . ( Hear , h&ar . ) Since the present ru ' fl had been ' established , petitions to this Louse had increased on an average to 17 , 000 for each < f the two last sessions , iHtar , hear . ) . He believed that thtre was iio aHnrnvtive between adhering to the

      prrfent in ' . e , r . nd a rekxution of it altogether . If they pfrmit ' : ed hon . members to exercise their discretion , the c > nsequeDce would be that they would have conr . nunl rieiatt-s upon tbe questions of petitions . Thoy would find that there would tw many hon . members who would be much less anxious to do justice to the gr . evances complained of in these petitions , than to itato their own opinions upon the matter . ( Hear . ) Tht&e speeches would naturally provoke a reply ; tha rcriy w . ; uld provoke a rejoinder , and thiy would thus find th ; msclves thrown mto the same condition' they were twelve or thirteen years pco . ( Hear , hear . ) it was ociy the experience- of tne great evil that attended tht ) former course , which led Pii .-liaiaent to adopt the present system . The 2 Gth of Feb ., 1833 , was the day

      that th » - present rules were adopted , under the speakerah ' p of Mr . M , Button . As far as public feeling was concerned , there was a general impression that tb& time of this hou > : e was sufficiently ccniuiued in muredebata . He did uot mtan the count ; }¦ generally , but those who formed the gtr . eral class of petitioners . These appeared to wish th .: t Hon . Members should 0 tvets more of their time to practical reform , and less of their time to debute . If they found that , night afttr i . ight , the time of this Housu was consumed by a mere preliminary debate , he did not think tbat satisfaction would arise from such a course to any party . ( Hear , hfnr . ) If one Hon . Member should make a sptech U | . en the presentation of

      his petition , it would be very < V > fiieult to prevent others from occupying the House at an equal leDgth of time , mid they would find that-the inevitable result w < u ! d be that tLe House would be involved in a series 0 ! constarit debates . ( Hrar , hear ; Her-Majesty ' s "Go- , vernmtnt had bo object in preveLting everjj , petition being Laard . Their only otject was an anxious considiration that the business ef legislation should be proceeded with . iHtar , hear . ) He thought that in spite of the » ost conflicting advantages the rule was a wise ei . e . Their time was the property of the people , and he thought thai they diverted more of it than was nvceataxy from the real and practical business of

      legislation . Mr . TVakley said if tfia Members of the House of Com ii ; ans co > . o u ; t ? d them sel ? es in a more propsr man-Dcr feW ' . r £ tt t -. ns would be presented ; bt-t , in conssqutr-ce of their acting in direct ' opposit i on tj the public will , and opposing the best iriteitt-tsef the cbmruuaity , the pei . pic alnitsst dvspaired cf obtaining redress . Hb ( Mr . W . ) wou . d suggest one node of lessening the number of petitions , in addition to that of imrroving

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      -their consluct , ami that-was by shortening the . duration of Payliaments , and allowing Hon . MernbfcM to go back to their constituents more frequently to ; give an acceunt of tbeir conduct . Unfortunately ' . they barl now ' a ¦ lease for seven years , and ^^ before the expiration of one year , those who sent them here felt theniselTes under the necessity ^ of petitioning for an alteration in tbeir mode of proceeding , and when their petitions were presented no discussion was allowed , but the substance of the petition was merely to > e * tated . And this was called the House belonging to tho people . Now what was the line of conduct pursued in the other House of Parliament ? The matter ought to be looked at in this point of view . There were two Houses of Parliament , one hereditary , the other pretending to represent the people . In the

      hereditary House the petitiona of the poople were adequately discussed—in fact , there was ¦ no limit tQ the discussion ; but those who Dretended to be the representatives of the people in the House of Commons were so gagged and muzzled that they were not allowed to make a single comment on a petition complaining of apeblic grievance . If Honourable Members were not to be alloweu to take care of the interests of the people , they ought not to be allowed to occupy their seats , and tke sooner such a prattice as the existing . one should be abolished the better would it be for the interesta of community at large . ( Criesof " question , question . " ) After a few observations from Sir W . James and Sir VV-Blakr-, which were qtiite inaudible , in consequence of the impatience manifested by the House ,

      Mr . Wallace replied . Whatever might be the decision . of the Houso , tbe question would bastillopen , whether turae compromise might not be agreed to , or whether the present stringent ruic muat' positively be adhered to . In the years 1833 , 1834 , and 1835 , -when honourable members were allowed to raise debates upon petitions , more business was done tban in any thrte years sisice that period ; and this was a proof tbat the time of tha House was not wasted in a useless manner by debating on petitions . The real waste of the time of the House was in the monstrous practiee now established , of . debuting one point for four or five nights successively . ( Htar , hear . ) When a debate arosp , if the constitutions of H 6 hourabl 9 Members would not allow of . thtir continuing to sit Until its

      conclusion ,. th « y ought at once to : resign their seats . ( Laughter . ) He bad not the least doubt that the next week's debate was completely arranged by Hon . Members on both aides , and that the debate would last from Monday until . Friday . It waa such disenssions as those of which the people complained , and many Honourable Members entertained similar opinions . Ho had no doubt that committees of the House endeavoured to do their duty with respect to petitions ; but -when the labour was heavy ; md continuous he w ; - . s almost afraid that they did not pay proper attention to them . Besides , after th « y were selected , they we e not printed and in the hands of

      Members before the cxpitatwn of three ov font weeka-, ami if at that period they were to be offered to- the fourth estate , tuo leadtrs Of public opinion would laugh at theiu . They lunst have their political food day by day , and they inusc h ; iv 3 it hot and hot , or they would . iot have it at ail . ( Luughtcr . ) With respect to the remark of tho Hon . Baronet the Member for Oxford , he ( Mr . W . ) would always be content to confine hinieelf to the space of two minutes in the presentation of any petition ; and he would venture to say that the brains of thoee were not inuyh who ceuld not express what they me : vi > t to say on such a Bubjuct in that period * ( t > jeat Luiighter . ) Tile House then

      divided—For the motion 5 t Against it 237 Majority 187 Ou the motion of Mr . E . Tennent the Houee resolved itself into .. a-committee ' on the copyright of dLsigns , and on the House resuming leave was given to bring in the Bill , which purposed to extend the copyright to nine , months . Adjourned .

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      YEW GREEN . Mr . Benjamin Gledhill , weaver . Mr . Nathan Thornton , weaver . Mr . D ; ivid Gledhill , sm'th , Lockwood . lir . John Thornton , weaver , Moor-End , sub Treasurer . ' . Mr . John Ashton , weaver , Yew ' s Hill , sub-Se cretary . '

      |; ipswich . Mr . John Cook , shoemaker , Cox-lane . Mr . Donald M'Pljereon , frea-dealer , Rose-lane . Mr . George Terry , coach trimmer , Bridgestreet . .- ¦ , '' ¦ Mr . James Lwder , cirpenter , Ro ? elane . Mr . John Brown , carpenter , Rose-lane . Mr . . WMliam Lyon , carpenter , Collcge-streefc , sub-Treatiurer . . Mr . William Garrard , carpenter , Falcon-street sub-Secretary .

      DAVENTRY . Mr . John Warwick , cordwainer , Abbey-end , Mr . Wm . Askow , Jitto , ditto . -. Mr . Win . . Smith , ditto , ditto . Mr . Wm . Tallet , ditto , Church-lane . ¦ Mr . Danitil Dawson , i 5 bo . ; . > keeptr , Brook-end . Mr . Charles Pcet , chimney-sweeper , ditto . Mr . Ja . riit ; s Lawsoii , Taylor , High-street . Mr . Tlionias Webb , covdwaiaer , Union-place , sub Treasurer . Mr . George Abhwell , cabinet-niaker , ditto , sub Secret ary .

      jmiGHTON . Mr , II . LandsJcH , hairdresser , 18 , Marlborough place . Mr . Robert Colling , schoolmaster , Church-street Mr . R . Allcorn , carpenter , Trafalgar-street . Mr . J . Scott , cordwiiiiier , Union-lane . Mr . Thomas Keed , cordwainer , 101 , Edward street . . - . Mr . W . Woodward , news-aa ; ont , 50 , Union-place Mr , G . Gilos , ciii'pint-r , Hrtrnpton-cbttage . Air . J . Alloii , carpenter , 34 , Upper Gardeiier street . ., ' — Mr . Richard Harvey , cwdwainer ,. Chur . ch-5 tree't . Mr . F . Page , ditto , 3 , Kew-strect . Mr . J . Pa « e , watchmaktrr , 14 , Camolford-street . Mr . James Fleyman , painter , 45 , Kaiio ' ver-ter

      race . Mr . James lawless , bookbinder , 4 , Rarby-plaso Mr . Win . Flower , shipwright , . 'Si-lvvoodrsireet Rub-Tr ' a > 'irer . Mr . -Nathaniel Morling , House-agent , 22 , Albion streetj sub-Secre ( avy .

      ROTIIEHHAM . Mr . John Crowther , Pijjeou-lane . Mr . Samuel Linley , Old Holland . Mr . Samuel Earnshayv , Gkssiiouse-yard , Mae bro . ' Mr , John Roberts , Ma ? bro Common . Mr . John Foster , Wellgatc . Mr . John Smith , Wellga . te . Mr . Georgo Kamsden , Oilmill-fo'd . ' Mr . John ( VHarrow , Old Holland , sub-Secretary Mr . William Ibbetson , Grofts ,- sub-Troasm-er .

      UOLBKCK . Mr . George Chambers , wheelwright , Holbeck Moor Top . ' ' Mr . William Wade , engineer , Woitley-lane . Mi-. William Ward , . brickinaker , Sodom . Mr . Charles Cludoray , brush finisher , Portlandstreet . ' ¦ . ¦ .- ¦ Mr . James Stead , clothier , Low Moor Side . Mr . Joseph Wilkinson , mechan i c , New Worfcley . Mr . Thomas Westorii , bru-ihtnuker , Lady Pitlane , Himalet . Mr . William Harrend , labourer , Holbcrk-lane . Mr . Edwin Gaunt , cloth dresser , Woniey-laiiie-. Mr .-William-Baxter , cloth- weaver , Dennison-rovv . Mr . John -Daviea , brush maker , Mount-street , Holbeck , snb-Tifa > imr . Mr . Richard Rylands , cloth weaver , Hor 3 e and Jockey-yard , Holbeck , 6 ub-i 5 ec ? etary .

      COL . VK .. Mr . Hugh Schrfitld , Colne-lane . Mr . Ely Baldwin , Unipn-strect . Mr . Robert Rnshton , Dean-fold . Mr . James Mooney , High-street . . Mr ,.-James Rushtpn ,-. Colue .-jano . Mr . John Lambert , jun » , Patty-houses Mr . William Smith , sub-Treasurer . M . Henry Hickeon , sub-Secretary .

      STROUDWATF . lt . Mr . John Hattoio . Mr . Marmaduke Michinson i Rodbero . Mr . Ambrose Parsons , Streud . Mr . John Harris , Rodbero . Mr . William Judd , Stvoud-liiU . Mr . James Newmahj New Mills , sub-Treasurer . Mr , Henry Pritchard , tailor , Fisher ' s-court , sub Secretary .

      MIDDLfcWICH . Mr . John Jepson , hatter . Mr . Euward M'Kenna , small ware dealer . Mr . George Collins , ditto . Mr . Samuel Corke , labourer . Mr . William Slater , painter . Mr . Richard Clarke , labourer . Mr . Michael Twiglcy , wool ' -comber . Mr . James Walktr , boot and shoe maker , sub Treasurer . Mr . Thomas Cotterill , boot and shoe maker , sub Secretary .

      BOSTON . Mr . James Thompson , shoemaker , Tattershall road . ¦ ' Mr . Robert Nichols , Bhoo raakev , Cdlly-street . Mr . White , tailor j Goodburn's-yard . Mr . David Waterncld ,- tailor , Fowler ' s-row . Mr . Frederick Wowt-r , clock maker , Chapel row . Mr . Samuel Baker , tailor , Chapel-street , sub Treasurer . Mr . Samuel Slight , school [ master , Tattershall rosd , sub-Secretary .

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      BRIDPOPX . Mr . William Joy , shoemaker , East-street . ¦ ' Mr ., ' --WiHja ;* m ' . Prideaux , 7 tailorv -West- st . reet .. Mr . John Squiroi ' shoemaker . East-street . Mr . William Gilpin , wea ^ erv St ^ : . Michael ' slane . -: ¦ . ¦/¦¦¦[¦' : ' ¦ ¦ ¦ - - .. ' . ' . - ; - ¦''" - . ' .. ' - . /¦¦ '' - ¦ ¦ " . - ¦ - : ¦ ' - Mr . William Ewett , shoemaker , East-street . Mr . John Northmore , tailor , Barrack-street , sub-Treasurer . .. ' ¦ - '¦ " ¦¦ ' . . ¦ . '¦ . ; . ¦' ,.. ¦ . " . ; . : . -.. Mr / Joseph Haines , warehousemaio , North Mill , subrSecreiary . READING , ( ADDITIONALi ) Mr . Ephraim Rous , tailor , 3 , Moulton-place , Hosipr-street .

      Mr . William Pilgrim , printer ^ Spring-gardens . Mr . Jamea Dawson , engineer , 34 , Thorn-street . Mr . Thomas M . Wheeler , 7 , Mill ' s-buildings Knights bridge .

      BABNOI . pSWJ . CK > Mr . Ralph Slater , Lane-bottom . Mr . John Hey , Wapping . Mr , John Shut , Wappiiig , Mr . Christopher Starkie , Town-head . Mr . James Reell , Wapping . Mr . Johu Hodgson , St . Thomas-squave . Mr . Allen Edmonson , Kiiig-streeS . Mr . David Jenkinson , Wapping , aub-. Treasurer Mr . Richard Wright , sub-Secretary .

      SAtFOBD—YOUTHS ' . Mr . Charles Cooper , spinner , St . Stephen ' s-placc . Mr . Jonathan Pickeriiig , weaver , Da . we 3-street . Mr . Richard Brown , bpi ' uner . Back-street . Mr . Thomas Kindle , dy or , -Bridgewater-siareet . Mr . Elliot ; Buckley , mechanic , Market-street . Mr . Robert Roberts , dyer , Arlington-street , sub Treasurer . Mr . Robert Ramsden , spinner , Garden-street , sub Secretary .

      TIIOHRTON . Mr . Samuel Stork , Bhoemaker . Thornton . Mr . Jona . 3 Mitchell , weaver , Maitkiln . Mr . George Jowett , weaver , Thornton Height . J ' r . James Hiiinsworth , weaver , BaH-sJreeJ . Mr . James llliugwoith , weaver , Clayton . Mr . Joh ' o Peel , weavar , Bailie-stile . Mr . Isaac Watson , weaver , Workhouse-fold . Mr . Joseph Smuh , Weaver , Cowgill . ; ¦ Mr . Richard Barker , weaver , Green-lane . Mr . G : orgeGray , jiinor , New-road , sub-Treasurer Mr . Johu Iliadle , weaver , Ball-street , sub-Secre tary .

      SHF . 1-FIELD . —^ POLITICAT * INSTITUTE . Mr . William Gill , scale cutter , Sparrow-lane . Mr . James Mackottiick , brush-maker , Pin 3 tonestreet . . ' ¦ ¦ * ¦ ¦¦ . *"' .. ¦ Mr . Joseph JVfarsh , stone mason , Mtiton-street . Mr . David Waiker , labourer , Johnson-street . Mr . Joseph Harrison , wood turner , Nursery-street . Mr . Richard Oiiey , tobacconist , South-street , Shrffield Moor . Mr . John Drinkwater , pen blade grinder , Upper

      Thorpe , Mr . William Frost , news agent , Bridge-street . Mr . William Wells , derk , Duke-street , Moor . Mr . Henry William Necdham , cutler , Broomhallstreet . Mr . James Dyson , mechanie , Little Pond-street . Mr . Charles Wild en , siecl burner , Thomas-street , sub-Treaturer . Mr . Robert King , engraver , Canuing-street , sub-Secretary .

      DERBY . Mr . Eno 3 Ford , joiner , Ci y-road . Mr . Vincent Perry , framework -knitter , Leaperstreet . Mr . Edmund Greecoek , ribbon weaver , Williamstreet . Mr . Henry Kuoot , cOoper , Thorntree : Iane . Mr . William Wheeldon , tailor , St . Peter ' s Churchyard . Mr . William Chandler , ribbon-weaver , Leaperstrect , sub-Ti ' easurer . ' . ' . - .. ' Mr . John Moss , cordwainer , PJumtree-square , Derby-lane , sub-Secretary .

      TOWER HAMLETS . —BOOT AND SHOE MAKERS . Mr . Robert Charles , Gandey-court , Bow . Mr . William Tiiikini , ' , Nelson-street , Bethnal Green . Mr . James H . Knowles , Windsor-street , Bishopgate . Mr . Johu H . Smith , 28 , Alfred-street , Stepney . Mr . Noah Duller , 2 G , Baker-street , Mile-find , Old Town . Mr . Thomas Hodgson , 51 , Nelson-street , Bethnal Green . Mr . James Tagut , 10 , Camden-street , . Bethnal Green-Mr . William Henry Wilkihs , 19 , Gibraltar-walk , sub-Treasurer . Mr . Peu-r Sadler , 1 G , Star-street , St . George's Ea .- > t , sub-Stcretary .

      LAMULCY . Mr . Wm . Cross , Framework-. kn-i ttor , Smith's-row Mr . John Savet , Ditto , . Pjjigie House . Mr . Joseph Cawtm .-ru , Dicco , Grei-n-laue . Mr . Jobii Bingtiam , Ditto , Smitia's-row . Mr . Henry Selby , Ditto , Chappel-lane . Mr . Samuel Paruham , Ditto , Nottingham-road , sub Treasurer . Mr . Wiison Plant , Dittto , Godbdr's-building , sub Secretary .

      MARPLE . Mr . John Kershaw , dresser , Marplo . Mr . Henry Bunuet , dogger , Compstall . Mr . John Hoiiingwonh , spinner , Mill Brow . Mr . James Shepiiardj carder , Mill Brow . Mr , Charles Barber , spinner , Mill Brow . Mr . Juaxes RatclifFe , publican , Compstall , sub Treasurer . Mr . Johu Platt , ioiner , sub-Secretayy .

      S 1 IEUE . IFV HILL . Mr . Cuthbert Peel , miner . Mr . John Rodders , pot-painter . Mr .- Robert Bertram , quarrymaii . Mr .. Joseph .-Clark , ditto . Air . John Dunn , ditto . Mr . Thomas Finlay , Uitto . Mr . James Scath , miner . Mr . John Southern , miner , sub-Treasurer Mr . Nicholas Hanu , tailor , sub-Secretary

      BKKMONDSET LOCALITV . Mt . John Gothai-d , 2 , Pauliiie-street , Bermondsey . Mr . William Bhss , 9 , York-street , RotherMithe . Mr . Hf nry Russell , boot-maker , Bond-street , Roth » rhithe . Mr . William Jones , tailor , 2 ,. Feridall-street ,-Ber-¦ * mondsey . Mr . Henry Foster , hatter , 238 , Butler ' s-buildings , Bermondrey . Mr . Charles Jeans , hair-dresser , 1 , Snow ' s Field's , Bermondsey , sub-Treasurer . Mr . John Maynard , Norlblk Cottage , Hunter-Btreet , Dover-road , sub-Secretary .

      THORNTON . Mr . Samuel Stork , shoemaker , Thornton . Mr . Jonas Mitchell , weaver , Maitkiln . Mr . Georg * Joy . cit , weaver , Thornton Height . Mr . James . Hainsworth , weaver , Ball-street . Mr . James Illingworth , weaver , Clayton . Mr . John Peel , weaver , Bailie Stile . Mr . Isaac Watson , weaver , Workhouse Fold . Mr . Joseph riauth , weaver , Green Lane . Mr . George Gray , joiuer , New road , sub-Trea ¦ surer . Mr . John Hiudle , weaver , Ball-street , sub-Secra tary .

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      REPORT OF THE DEPUTATION TO FACILITATE THE PRESENTATION OF THE MEMORIAL TO THE QUEEN . TO THE FRIENDS OF FRObT , WILLIAMS , AND JONES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY . FiuiiKDS of Freedom , —FeurgU 3 O * Conuor , Esq . having bbcn appointed by tile GeDeral Committee cf Binumgiiaia , lot ; : the' restoration of the above-named piitrieta , to present a number of -: memexials- to her Majesty , in person , and wa having been dopute r i by tkeiai < i Conimittee to forvpard the same to Sir . O'Connor , and to give hini t > uch information , in our capacity of cviumiltee men , as hu might require , we deem it our duty to place btfore the Committee and the country the result of our exertions in that object .

      We went from Birmingham on Saturday evening . On arriving at London , on Sunday morning , we pro ^ seeded ' to'tbe bouse of Mr . O'Connor , at Ha ' mniersiKith ,-und on gaining aitmittance we told Mr . O'Connor the purpose of our vl&it , when , aftev a leng conversation it w . is ult ' tniatBly agreed that Mr . O'Connor should present the original memorials to her Majesty at the carJiest opportunity , Mr . O'Connor sayibg . he Would get a court dress niade for the occasion , to present the uuitbd prayer of the industrious classes at the foet of weniaus threne .

      Mr . O'Connor having stated , both in his letter to the comiuittte at Birmingham and in his conference with us , that the memorials should be left for him at Mr , Cleave ' s , 1 , Shoe-lane , -we accordingly left them with Mr . Cleave ; who expressed his witlingeess to assist in their presentation by all means in bis power . , Fear-Rus O'Connor then advised us to present the new memoriais to the Home Secretary ourselves . We , therefore , on Monday , the 24 tb ult ., waited at the ofBce of the Home Secretary , whorn we found we could not see upon any account , the person whom we isaw stating that all memorials went through his bonds to the > Under Secretary , and thence to Sir James Graham , and from him to the Queen . -

      vve omitted no opportuuity— --we left no stone unturned , however , ts > gain adntittance to the Home Secretary . We weut away ; and coming again ; saw the same person , when we represented to him rthat we were deputed to present certain congratulatory addresses to the Queen , thiough the Home Secretary , and that we Were ' requested . 'by our constituents to present them on ! y

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      to Sir James Graham ; but the object of our search wa 3 not to bo seen , the person who represented himself to us as head clerk stating that if we stayed there a moni-h there was no other channel for addresses to the Queen than through his hands . Seeing no other alternative , we therefore ultimately delivered them to this peraon , who took them into the oSce ; and on learning their contents , came and said he had given them to the Under Secretary , and that the Committee who sent them would receive an answer on their being presented tottieQueen . ;

      Trusting and believing that the good the Committee aim to accomplbb will be obtained : by the decision and straightforwardness of their course , and knowing . the difficulties it has already conquered , we , the deputation , look forward to the time , at no great distance , of seeing Frost , W ^ iHiams . v-iin'd ^ Jones , by the help of Uie country , restored to the arms of their admiring countrymen . ' ¦ , '; ' ---I ¦ ¦' . . ' . ' . . " ¦ ¦ .:. ¦' ¦ ¦ ' ¦ ¦¦ V . '¦ ¦ ¦ yours , very faithfqllf , Walter Thoen . John Babrati .

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      the address of the chaktist fouths op . ¦ sheffieldto the young men of thai town And neighbourhood , adopted at a meeting of their bodf . jan . 30 , . '¦ 1842 . ' -. - ' " ' . ' . ' ; ' ¦/ - . '¦ •'' ' ' ' . ' . " V . " - :.-: " The virtues or vices of a state are the effects its of ¦ legislation . ''—Helvetius . Brothers ;—When we look around us and reflecfc on tiie state of our conntry—when we view the pomp , splendour , and luxury of life enjoyed by the so-called " higbfe ' r . classes' * - oh the one band , and the misery , want , and wretchedness ^—the lot of tbo toiling ; claiteea , on the other—we are led to ask , Howthis is?—what is to ' e cause ? Is it the will ot the Deity that one portion of his creatures should starve while there is

      plenty in the land , and another portion to not in profusion ? No ; this caunot be . What , then , is the cause ? The cau 88 is to be found in the grasping SeifisI ; - n .-ss of the few -whb ; usurping the reins of Government , legislate for their own exclusive benfit , and to the injury o ^ the labouring classes of society ; an eminent writer has . well said that all the evils ef a state flow from its government , and to remove the evii we must remove the cause . Yea , we must unite in wne bond of brotherhoocl , and in the Btrength © f out nioral power aim that blow at the eitadel of corruption which shall cause the stronghold of tyranny to totter to its fall .

      We appeal to you , the youths of Sheffield , to coma forward aud join our Association , aud to help us in our sfruggle to free oar native land . The only remedy for existing wrougs is to be foun < l in the People ' s Charter It will give usa voice in making the lawsi we are bound to o ^ ey , and enable ua to protect our labour , and secure to . ourselves the frnite of pur toil . If the present state of things is to continue , what prospect bare we on reaching maturity , but that of wm-ing the galliiig chains of slavery our fathers have too long borne . Shall this be ? Lot every' heart feel—let every voice echo- — No ! Let us rally round the banner of freedom our fathers hate unfurled and assist them in that cause fur which a Hamp-ien bied ou the fields and a Sidney died on the scaffold . . , ' . ' We are , orothers , " . Yours , fraternalfy , Thomas Woodcock , sab-Secretary National Charter Association Room , Fig Tree-lane . .

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      From the London Gazette of Friday ; Feb . 4 . bankrupts . Edward Mallan , Great Russell-street , Bloomsbury dentist , Feb . 16 , at one , March 18 , at eleven , at the Court of Bankruptcy , BasinghsII-street Solicitor , Mr Whittington , Daanrstreet , Finsbui-y-aquare ; official assignee , Mr . Lackington , Colenian-street-buildings . Richard Irwin and John Gould Irwin , Manchester , drapers , Feb . 19 , March 18 , at two , at the Commissigners ' : Rooms , Manchester . Solicitors , Messrs . Slater , and Heelis , Manchester ; and Messrs * Milne , Parry , and Morris , ; Temple . .. . ' ; ] . ' ¦ David Davies , seti ., and David Davies , jun ., Glanclywsdog , Montgomeryshire , flanafcl-manufacturera , Feb . 23 , 'March 18 , at eleven , at the Oak Inn , WelshpboL Solicitors , Messrs . Drew and W ' oosman , Newtown ; and Mr . Weeks , ' -Lincoln's Inn . . ; ¦ :

      John -Hayward , Miiveiton , Warwickshire , miller , FeT ) . 14 , Maich 18 , at twoive , at the Lansdown Hotei , Leamingtou Priors . So ieitor , Messrs . Rushwortb , Staple , tun ; and Mr . Fcrder , LeamiDgton , 7 ' Wiiliam Heap , John Roberts , and William Roberta , Padibani , Lancashire , cotton-spinners , Feb ^ 22 , at two , March 18 , at twelve , at the Court House , Burnley Solicitors , Messrs . Cragg and Joyes , Harpur-street , R « d Lion-square ; and Messrs . Alcock and Dixon , Burnley ; ¦ Jonathan Nash and Robe , t Lucas Nash , Bristol , brewers , March 1 , ' at one , 18 , at two , at the CommerciaV Rooms , Bristol . Solicitors , Messrs . Goldrey and Fellowes , Chippenhani . Wiltshire ; aud Messis . Hil . lier , Lewis , and Hillier , Raymond-buiidingB , Graj ' fl Inn . -

      Thomas Cheshire , Smethwick , Staffordshire , miller , Fet » . 11 , March 18 , at twtlve , at the Waterloo Roouis , Birminghain . Solicttors , Messrs Tooke and Son , Bedforiishire ; aud Messrs . Unett and Son 3 , Birminghaiu . ' . ¦ ' .. ' :. ' . ; " ¦¦ . ' ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ . ' . - .. ¦ '' .. ¦ ,: ¦' ' . '¦' . ¦ ¦ Janie 8 Buckett , Great Bourton , Oxfordshire , sheetdeater , Feb : 21 , March 18 , at eleven , at the White Lion Inn , Banbufy . SolicitoMi Messrs . Cox and Wiliains , Line-. ln's-inn-fieWs ; and Messrs . Waliord and Bcfciiley , Banbury .

      PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED . W . Huflfmann , M . Nourse , and J . T . Woodbury , Martctii'ster , mtn ' s mercers . J . Bur ^ in and J . Broadi-. ead , Slieffiad , manufacturers of tine seissora . W . Jfvcksoa , S . S . Jackson , j . Jackson , and J . Jackson , Leeds , tobacco-manufacturers ;; as far as regards Joseph Jackaoii .. ; J . Muspratt , R . Daglish , jun ., J . Speakman , and . W . BroiiiiloWj Parr , Lancashire , coal proprietors , as far < i 3 regards J . Speakman and W . Broiriiioir . C Matcbitt and H . Matcbitt , Salford , LancasJwre , cottondealeM . J . F . Parkin and J . Parkin , Sheffield ^ engravers . P . Hitching , S . K-iti-hing , and G . J . Hoderuease Manchester , stTaining-cloth-roaiiufuctuTdrs . J . Elgin , and J Heseltine , York , druggists . J . H . Filler and C . P . Allan , Msuchester , fustian-Manufacturers .

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      From the Gazette of Tuesday , Feb . 8 . BANKHCPTS . Lulce Whitby , builder , Grteii Dragon-yard , Whitechapel . .- ' , .,:. -. ' Morris Schlessinger and Michael Samuel Schlessinger , niercbaats , Baainghall-atieet John Woodcock , builder , Stratford , Essex . William Vaile . lacenian , Oxford-street . George Thomson aud James Forbes , " corn-factors , Crutched-friars . Joseph Miller , Johu Campion , George Craddoii ,

      p ' ateiit sail-cloth manufacturers , Stockton-on-lVes , B " * haul . ' - . ' - . . . .: V-. . . " - ¦ ' ¦ - ¦ ¦ ' ¦ : ' . . .. ' ¦ ¦ . ¦ ¦¦ - ' . '¦¦ . . '¦ ¦'¦ - ' ' - . - JobnBawers , grocer , Cbipstead , Kent Charles Augustus Cantor , merchant , Upper Montagustreet , Montagu-squiire , Middlesex . ' . - Richard Blackmore and John Craven , - ' corn-nullera , Wakefleld , Yorkshire . John Rivis WiUoughby , stone mason , York . John Protheroe , Jan ., iron merchant , Bristol . Joseph Greenweli and Stephen Greenwell , miners , Sbarfoitti-miU , Durham . ' William Robins , ironmongery Stoae , Staffordshire .

      Richard Watera , iron-plate-manufacturei ' , . Newporii , Monmouthahire . : ' .. ' •' ¦¦ ' ¦' . ¦ ' ; .: ' . ¦'¦ Joan Higgins and James Manuock , Dukinfield , Cheshire . ¦ : ¦ - . ' - " , - ¦ . ' - - ' ¦ - ' . - : : ' . ' . : ¦ ; , Gicrgiana Gifford , schoolmistress , Fulbam , MiddlesfeX » ' ; . ' . . . ' ¦ ¦ ' ' . ¦ ¦ ¦ - . ' .-: . " . ' . ' ¦ . "" " . .. ' ¦'¦¦ '' . - Thomas Appleyard , sione merchant , Halifax , Yorkshire .. : . : - . : , " ¦ '• " . ¦ ¦ - ' ' ¦¦ - . . ; . ' ¦ - ¦; . ' . - . ' - - . Edward HiilUley , cloth manufaciurer , Leeds .

      Himp^Ial \$Armamsnt*

      Himp ^ ial \ $ arMamsnt *

      Nominations'to The General Council.

      NOMINATIONS'TO THE GENERAL COUNCIL .

      30a'Itlmqptgi &C.

      30 a'itlmqptgi &c .

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      liElTH . —Glorious Triujiph op Chartism . — Ou Monday the League held a public meeting in the KeV . Mr . Marshall ' s chapel , ' for the purpose of sending a delegate to the conference in London . They evidently wanted to steal a march on the working men , hy posting their bill late oni Saturday nigbt The Chartists , however , were on tbe alert , and had a bill out early on Monday morning calling oh the working classes to muster in their strength at two o ' clock , and ¦ we were not disappointed . John Mitchell , Es < i ., ^ was proposed and seconded by two of the members of the Anti-Corn Liw Association , as chairrha ' n , when Mr . Morrison , a working man , was proposed m opposition , and on the ' sense--of tbe meiBtinc being taken , the votes

      in hia favour were almost unanimous : There was much Confusion for some time , and on order being restored , Mr . Mitchell commenct-fl a very able speech in defence of the Corn L : iw agitation , which ; would have been conclusive to all who had not considered both sides of tbe question ; hfe finished by proposing " the Rev . Mr . Hurpar as n . fit and proper person to represent the town of Leitb in the conference . " He was seconded by Mr . Crawford ' -Barker . Jv 5 r . Tanknrd . chair manufacturer , proposed an amendment , " That tb . is : meeting is of opinion that the appointment of a delegate to repressn ^ the inbabitaTits of teitk in the approaching conference ; s . ' -tota . ily uncalled for ; resolved therefore that liDjust and cruel as the Corn Laws are it sees not the shadow of a hope that these bad laws can be repealed

      30 as to ensure the people the full benefit of such , untu the People's Charter shall be first made the law of the land . " In a Ion ? and able speech Mr . Tankard shewed the'injustice of the landholders denying that land to » the necessities of tLe starving '/ millions' which they use only as covers for foxes and other vermin . Mr . TV / was ably seconded by Mr . Kftrr , schoolmaster , and the amendmect and motion being regularly put , the first was carried by a tremendous majority , amidst a cbeering arid clappincf ,. < fec . j that beggars description . The church holds 1500 , ifc was crammed above and below , and-not more tlian fifty : voted for th ^ e original motion ; the National Petition was then unanimously adopted , and after three hearty cheers for O'Cennor aad the Chatter , tbe meeting quietly dispersed .

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      —— g THE NORTHERN STAR . - , / ' . ; -. ' ;; _ . " .- ,.. ; . ¦' ..- ; , ; ^ - ;' . ¦ ' '

  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Feb. 12, 1842, page 6, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct878/page/6/