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      ZtOHDOK . MxETiifG op Delegates—A p « blie meeting << delegates from the trades of the ^^^ iV f ^ f ••* ibeCwroi Head , Dwry !*»» . «» ******* Oetoberttad . Th * place vu crowded to excess . Delegates were peesjeatfrom varies * bodies of carpenters , ¦*«¦«¦** ?<> maker * , painters , plasterers , 4 ^ 1 net msisrs , taekterm , bookbinders , boot aad shoemakers , « BgfcMn , S ? JoSe » , phibe » , tia . pl . te workej * ttUor * b ^ awdettes « f masons , ud various other trades . Many that arrived U tba later part of ti » eve !**** were « sabie to procure * dmfl * ance , aad -were compelled to content themselves with sending in their credentials . Mr . WOMHOiexos , stone-mason , having been called ¦ to * te chair , the gentlemen connected with tbe Times , Jfenrf *? A dve rt iser , Chromek , Sv * i Wte&y Express , BriUA < hm , W « klf ^ 3 > i * paUh , Norther * Star , and « i » juwi paper * , were ^ mitfr * , and , from their number * , fully evinced that they at least were alive to the impottasw of the meeting .

      Mr . Wokthingtos aid , Xe&ow-aea , it is with *^« at diffidence that 1 have takes tbe cksir upon tbe preset * occasion , bat aball endeavour to sveeure for all who may wish to address you a fair and impartial ~ hesztag . Tbe present meeting most fa % demonstrate to ott employers that the trades of Loadon are awake to their own interests—that they sympartbke with their oppressed brethren . It is with feeUags of joy and pleasure that I Tiew thii great taaenkij , this concentuttas cf ' thyrmttofl wisitom H the-trades of London , assembled at such a short notice , to express their deter-Ttitaatlnn to support the rights of labour . As many store talented persons than myself will address you , and * I * y before yoa all the necessary information , I ¦ h * Ji qo longer detain yon , bat call upon Mr . Armstrong Walton to address you . Mr . Armstrong Waltos commenced by reading tbe following circular , explaining tbe object of the meeting : —

      To the Secretory of ( he SrAeiy . Sol , —I am instructed to inform your Society , through yon , t h ** a delegate meeting of the various trades will be held at the CraTen Head , Drury Lane , ' on Friday , Oct . SSad , at eight o'cleck , when full information will be laid before the meeting rel&tire to tbe strike of the « bmmh at the new Houses of £ arlissaent , to devise the beet means of making the strike luccessf « 1 ; and also to take into consideration the conduct of tbe Time * , Weekly 2 Mtpo / c& , Morning Advertiser , and other papers , which bare calumniated and misrepresented the masons now on strike at the above-named works , with a riew to consider the bast means to be taken relative to the nnpriadpled cosduct of those papers . It is earnestly

      requested that your society will send a delegate , or delegates , to the above-named meeting , and show to the despots that told our deputation " Theyconsldered they j , % ^ lowered their dignity Tery much is having condescended to allow us a bearing , " that there is a sufficiency of tnfr'Wg '""^ aad determination amongst the trades of London , when properly directed , to lay those tyrants and the hireling press of London prostrate at their feet As this is a subject of importance , it is particularly requested thatHtose trades which do not me& before tbe 22 nd inst will convene a special meeting , for the purpose of ¦ anHiwg delegates to the said delegate meeting . Tout ' s , respectfully , The O . 8 . M .

      a .-:. . Thomas Cabter , See . Mr . Walton then said , Jdr . Chairmaa and Gentlemen , doubt not many among yoa are acquainted with the reasons -which led to our strike at the new Houses of Parliament ; but , as there maybe some present who may aot be acquainted with the object , it will be necessary to lay the reasons before you , that you may judge whether we were justifiable in refusing to work any longer under a foreman who acted towards us in such an BBJnsUfiable , such a tyrannic manner , as was the eonduct of Mr . Allen—conduct which we bore with until it became impossible any longer to stand tamely be-T » ath it . We h » Te , as we mention in eur correspond « stee with Messrs . Qrisell and Peto , fonr specific cfearges to bring against Mr . Allen . Tbe first is that be refused to to to

      to allow a yotmg m ^ n leave go Manchester bury Ins mother . This , you will all allow , was an act of dsty that he should pay the last tribute of respect to bis deceased parent . He asked Allen for leave of absence for twe weeks , sad Bat-three weeks , as the press has stated , stating the object of his journey . This Allen refused . He then asked for one week .. This he also refused , stating that be could go down one day , and come back the next . This the man told him was impossi bl e , as he bad some little business to transact relative to his deceased mother ' s property . Allen then tekl ft *™ he must take his <•*¦» " <*» . for he would not keep his bench open for him . We , as fellow men , sympathizing in his distress , informed him we would aee Allen upon the subject , and advised him to go ; he

      • went We called a meeting upon the works , and agreed that if tbe man was discharged , we would leave Work also . This determination we acquainted Allen with , and the man -who took tbe chair oa that occasion vac , o ° a fabe pretence , speedily discharged . The jouag man came back from burying his mother , and Allan , sot daring to discharge him , endeavoured in the most inhuman and tyrannic niftT i Tif * T to drive b ^ Tn off the ¦ works . As a ponishment , be was taken oat of the shop , « m given the wont description of work . The uncrmH ehaxge is that of a ""»" , trhose wife mu ill , and who ni told by the Doctor that she was not likely to live more than seven hours . He obtained the leave of the under-foreman to be absent to visit her . The poor woman died ; her husband stayed to pay the last duty

      inhi » pow * z to his deceased partner until the third day ; and when be Was questioned by Allen of the cause of bis absence , and explained that it was owing to tbe -death of his wife , this was his answer— "That be might'ge and die with her , and be damn'd . " Could any man justify this revolting barbarity . ' A third charge was , one of the men , by an accident , got his leg broke on tile works . When he came back from the hospit&l , he was Hot quite so nimble as before , but the accident having occurred on the works , he naturally expected a little sympathy—that for a time at least be would not be too heavily pressed , bat Allen was destitute of any sympathy . He told him , in bis coarse brutal manner , that he wanted no damn'd hobbling fellows on the workE . Could it be expected that , posessed of feelings ,

      perhaps as acute as those of Messrs . Grisell and Peto , men could sit down tamely under such outrages ? iCrie * of " as , no , aad shame , thaiae . ") The la £ t instance was that of a poor man , who worked close by myself ; he was absent , being sick , for five days ; be bad been previously out of employ , and in poor dream-; r tvr «« , with a sick wife at home . Forty mea at tbe work subscribed 6 d . each , to assist him , who can bear -testimony to tbe truth of this statement , owing Vo illmess , combined . with the long way he had to walk , and lia anxiety on account of his wife , be was compelled to be absent for fiTodays . Upon his return , be was told fcy Allen to pick up his tools , and go , for he wasted none but Bound b * sd ; thus , my fellow-men , they -would use you like eoacs . horses , get as much as possible oat

      of you , and then fca may go to tbe dogs . { True . )—Erery one of these ( facts they were prepared to prove . When their brother . masons struck at Woolwich , aad at Kelso n ' s monument , Mr . Griaell told the men that if tbey could produce . proof of this , he would discharge Allea or the best fossnan he had ; a deputation vrass appsifited to wait on kim with individual * to prove the charge , but when they arrived , Mr . Grisell told them that be had never uttered such a sentence , and that he had lowered his dignity fcy condescending to allow us a hearing . ( Laughter . ) Was this acting liie a gentle man ? was thus basely deceiving them keeping up his dignity ? There was one p « st on which the press had greatly misrepresented them , respecting the man being fined five shillings for chasisg . Tee D ispa t ch and the Tivut wanted to make it an hxndle , to . prove that they wanted to curb the ingenuity and ability of their fellow men . This was false . When on a previous occasion

      they had complained of the conduct of Allen , their employers virtually admitted that it had been bid fay promising them that it should be altered in future , but Allen not being able to exercise his tyranny in the old method , adopted a fresh one , and instigated one of the men , possessed perhaps of superior physical abilities to seme of the ethers , to harrass and annoy his fellowwerkmen by doing a greater share of -work ( and doing it in a rougher manner , - which was overlooked ) than they eould do in a similar time , Allen making that a standard , and all -who could not accomplish ths same , to pick up their tools and valk , thus harassing his fellow men ; but it was not even for this he was flted , but for neglect of fiaiahing his -work . This explanation had been sent to the press , bu t t h ese i m pa r tial gentlemen declined to insert it Their Secretary -would now read the correspondence ¦ with Mtssrs . Grisell aad and Peto , aad he would retire , mafrtag room for othera to address them . ilr . Walton sat down much

      appirate * . Mr . Joseph Castes ., the Secretary of the stonemason body , then read the lengthened eorrespoodenee which bad taken place with Messrs . Grisell and Peto , the substance of which has already appeared before the public In the correspondence Messrs . Grissell and Peto deny that Joseph Guxreli was discharged f er taking the chair at the meeting on the works , and aver that Mr . Allen was not aware till afterwards that he b&d dose 4 o » ' This is contradicted by the reply of the masons , who state that Mr . Allen was prtsent , and made some observations to tbeci respecting their weight of pressure in meeting on some particular day . Mr . Carter also , in an able manner , explained a number ef grievances connected with the works , under which they had previously laboured , but which had been , through the interference of their employers , partially removed .

      He also entered into the case of the man who was fined 5 * . for " chairing , " and shewed that it was not owing either to bis skill or pernvfinaco Out he tu enabled tod © sore work , but owing tobJi being allowed by Alton to finish bis work in a rougher manner , and without putting tbe head . msrkj upon It Mr . Carter also stated the result of the deputation from the Nelson McnnmaBtand Wool wichsasont to Messrs . Peto , * & , and their contadiction of using the words , " that if the charges were true , they would discharge Allen ;" and stated that these words could be distinctly sworn to by thirty-two men at the Monument , sad ubiety at Weolwich , and that when he informed them he had lowered bis dignity in receiving them , and appeared to be in a very agitated state , they , pitying his agitation , and seeing no prospect of aa amicable arrangement , put on theirhais mad left ( Cheers . )

      Mr . Robert M'Dokjuld said it was a new feature in Ifaeb tndes' meetings that they should have so many reporters present ; and being an uneducated man , and

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      not in the habit of public speaking , he trusted that , if be committed any grammatical or other errors , they would deal leniently with him . ( Loud laughter . ) As the previous speakers had entered into the detail of the business connected with the strike , be wowld give them a short aococnt of their present position . They were well aware that the struggle had now lasted six weeks . During this period every exertiosi ha * bees wed by thenustea to procure men , an * by them << the masons ) to counteract their endeavours . He was happy to find that public oftoion was entirely with them , net only asaoag the working , but even ia . tk * sniddla dasses . This-was not a strike against * ssaater , » or a strike for wages , but a strike against tbeisUwm&n tyrannical ooadttct of aa tpstart foreman ; ** d therefore it

      appealed to the sympathy of all classes . They were admitted , even by the public placards « fthek « mpleyers , to be a sober , industrious , and intelligent body of men . Mr . Jt-Doaald bare explained tiw os > p * siti < m they had nut with from the press , which was ever ready a * copy and insert any articles , but would never copy a single article of theirs , in refutation , from tbe Xorlherm Star , or other sovees , in which It might appear . He also dwelt forcibly -en the opposition they met wHh from the Government authorities , and deaounced the-conduct of the CoKUBissioDen of Woods and Forest * , who , in answer to the application of the masons , stated that they cooki eot interfere with tbe employers and

      employed , and in violation of this pledge , isssing or giving their consent to tbe issuing of placards in the interest of Messrs . Grissell ait * Peto ; . The speaker also spoke of the quiet , peaceful method , in which they had conducted themselves ; that though they were surrounded oft all sides by policemen , in no one instaace had they got into the clutches of the law . He aiso alluded to the depression of trade at this season , which debarred many who were willing from assisting theni ; but now that the trades of London were rallying round them , they woald speedily obtain that for which they were seeking , despite of any and every opposition . { Tremendous cheering . )

      Mr . Robert Anderson was happy be was left In the rear , as his duty would be light . From the enthusiastic feelings which prevailed among the delegates , he was induced to believe that their struggle mast be triumphant A firm union of the whole ef the trades was necessary for this object Disunited they most fall an easy prey to their employers . In the position they were placed it would be madness to retreat ; all hope for the future would be cat off-, all wouW . be in confusion . They must be determined to bring it to an

      honourable conclusion . Owing to the numerous strikes of their Society , they were not so strong in funds as might be expected ; but they had promises of support throughout England and Scotland . Out of their whole body there was only nine dissentient votes to the strike ; but to ensure success , their support to the unemployed must be liberal , Many of them had , large , families , and they could not be expected to linger through the winter in a state of starvation . Mr . Anderson then alluded to the conduct of the press in refusing instrtien to their letters , fee .

      Mr . Akdeesok , proprietor of the Statesman and British Queen , stated that they bad never been applied to , or should willingly have inserted an impartial account of both sides ; and he was convinced they did not need more . He and bis partner were perhaps the only proprietors of newspapers in tbe room . They bad come at the expence of loss of health , and at great inconvenience , to assure them that they were willing to insert any ef their proceedings . They bad a reporter in the room , and in Sunday's paper there would be a full account of this meeting . A Delegate here moved "That the Proprietors of the British Queen be requested to insert a contradiction to the insertion in tbe D ispa t ch relative to the man fined 5 s . for charing , aa that report had done them much injury with tie tr ades . "

      Mr . Anderson—If the Chairman will contradict it from the chair , I will -willingly insert it I have been thirteen years connected with the Morning Advertiser , and have always advocated the rights of the -working classes- I am not now connected with the Morning Advertiser . ( Cries of Question . ) Mr . Joseph Kay—I think before we enter into the business of the press it will be better to test the opinion of the delegates present with respect to the propriety of the late strike , whether they consider it just , and whether they will support them during the straggle . I am a mason , but I have no connection with tbe masons now on strike . I am not a member of the Birmingham U nion . I know Al len w e l l , I have worked with him f cr a length of time , though I never worked under him .

      He was always , even when a journeym&n , of a proud overbearing disposition , and bis temper has not improved , though his circumstances have . Mr . Kay then informed them that nine years ago , Allen being then foreman to Mr . Carbitt , was a strong Trades' Unionist , and took a leading part in most of their meetings . Allen was then employed at tbe erection of Fishmonger Hall , and was discharged by Mr . CuVitt because of bis taking a leading part in the union . How then did the men act towards Allen ? Why they immediately struck , and were ' out some length of time , and did not return to their employment until be was n instated ; and now that he has risen to the top of the tree , how does be return their kindness ? wky by becoming the greatest tyrant that men could be employed unJex . ^ ir . Cli&ixnian , 1 propose the following resolution : —

      " That this meeting most cordialiy acquiesce in the steps taken by the masons employed at Uie New Houses of Parliament , and consider that it was impossible for them any longer to crouch under their overbearing , tyrannical foreman , and hereby pledge themselves to render them the necessary support " Mr . Osborne , in an able speech seconded the resolution , but not being a trade d » legate , it was objected to , and seconded by Mr . Henrt Kitchinson , delegate for a body of carpenters , and likewise supported by the sun of £ 20 , from the same small body meeting in Rochester Row , Westminster . Several delegates here addressed the meeting and gave the strongest assurance of snpport from their various bodies . Questions were asked by some of the delegates respecting the policy of the strike of Woolwich and Nelson ' s monument It was explained by the Chairman , that the resolution only applied to the men at the Houses of Parliament The resolution was then put and carried unanimously amid great cheering .

      Mr . A > DFRS 0 . v then explained in a most satisfactory manner tbe reasons which Induced the men employed at Woo l wic h , a n d o n Nelso n's monument , to strike , and stated that they being hard stonemasons , would have greater difficulty in supplying their places than even those at the Houses of Parliament ; he also gave a cheering account of the spirit exhibited by the men on strike , only one of those who struck at the New Houses bad deserted them , and two at Woolwich ; the names of these isen having been called for were given in . Th « masters had now got about 100 on the whole works . The number on strike -was upwards of 400 , of those employed scarce any could be called tradesmen . Mr . Bcsh moved , " That tfce men employed at Woolwich and Nelson ' s acBument were highl / justified in striking in aid of their brother tradesmen , against the unprincipled conduet of their employers , and that this delegate meeting pledge * itself to use its utmost exetions in their behalf . "

      Seconded by Mr . Geee . s , and carried unanimously . Mr . Hxssoh , corresponding Secretary for the stonemason body , Messrs . Rich&ri's ., Dunning , Elijah Pilcock , and other delegates addressed the meeting , ail agreeing in tbe justness of the strike , and cheering the masons in their causa by examples of t heir success . Mr . Dixsixo , in an elcque . \ t tpeech , thanked the trades for the manner in which i bey had supported nis trade , the bookbinders , in their la l « st r ugg l e , and urged them to n&e erery tffotl in buhilf t f the masons . Mr . Thompson moved , and Mr . Si iepherd seconded , "That a general public meeting be ca , ^ d a * convenient time and piaee , to consider the best j ^ eans of carrying the above resolution into effect . " An amendment was moved , That no public meeting bs held unt il a report be received froai tfce various societies , and a return made to the Committee appointed by the body . " The amendment -was carried .

      Mr . Wabtuaby moved , and Mr . Millar seconded , " That the delegates meet again on Wednt ^ J * tbe 27 th , at the same plaee ^—time eight o ' clock ; " ' w hich , after a little discussion , was carried . Many of the gentlemen of the press having pre " * 'fously r etir e d , some disapprobation was expressed , th a t they 4 id not stay till the conduct ef the London papers had been discussed . .-Mr . Wall explained that , being daily papers , U . * J were compelled to go to press at a certain hour .

      Mr . Thompson , in a neat speech , brought forwaru the conduct ) of the press , deno ' uncing their conduct to-¦ wards the masons —( cries of not all of them );—he acknowledged there vrere a few journals had treated them with impartiality , but his observation applied to the London press ; he then read extracts from the Morning Advertiser and the Times of the isth . of October , and the Dispatch of October lOtb , but the hour being very late , about twelve o ' clock , nnd many of the delegates retiring , the question of the press was adjourned till Wednesday evening , Oct 27 th .

      The Chairman in putting the adjournment , stated that reports would appear in the Northern Star , Weekly DispaJch , Sun , &c , and they would be aWe to jadge of how far the press was inclined to treat them with fairness . A Delegate stated that though the } had allowed the press a few days' grace , he was sorry to see them separate without passing a resolution denouncing their past eondnet * The meeting then adjourned with a vote of thanks to the Chairman . A great many of the circulars issued by the carpenters were distributed in the room , and many hard hits were given to the London press . A deputation from the O'Brien Press Committee attended , but in enuequence of the press of business , had not an opportunity of being heard ; considerable sums of money were handed in during the evening .

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      the principles of nature ; it was sectarian , it looked osly to one class of society ; the people were not educated sufficiently to be entrusted with political power . Look , for instance , » t the population of St Giles ; look at tbe honor * t * the French revolution , produced by eatrastfag pswar to ignorant men ; even admitting it as expedient , yon are not in s > position to get it You eveaabridfe jour pow « f by refMlaf . to cooperate with the Cora S * w repealers , and so make it a sectarian measure . Sochism embraced all without distinction : it was somptMug tangible to feel at ; a firm and solid foundatkc had been laid , and It was sure to prosper . Mr . leigb . —Itoe last speaker had said he was not to be led-a war by clap-trap , nor was the ma * jority of the people present They most consider which

      measure was the ' saest likely to be soccesBhil , the respective amount of prejudice they had to contend against The people wsaw more likely to listen to Chartism than to ^ oetaUne ? they had done-ao . What had caused tbe raimsMt « f tbe country to Uttea tnore to Chartism tham Socialism ? Most assmwAIy they bad done so . Perhaps Ik might be swjudtee . The majority « f the people of this country were at least nominal Christians . Socialism opposed itself to their religious as well ss political belief ; Chartism only appealed to their political feelings ; and therefore was preferable as being more likely to be attained . It was his opinion that t&e -principles of the Chatter would ensure and preserve freedom , both of body ssd mind . ( Loud cheers . ) Mr . Alexander Fleming , editor of the

      New Moral wvrti—l do not know a question of more vital importance than the present < We sre oa the eve of great changes . What those changes shall be , and how speedily effected , depends much uponjnmelvesit depends ea the union of the people to determine whether we shall have merely a slight chuge , or one on a broad basis , calculated to effect permanent good . What Is it we are looking to Chartism for ? What is it we are looking to Socialism for ? What is the end of all our agitation bat to attain the physical and mental enjoyments of which we stand in need—to be well educated , well clothed , well sheltered , and wall fed . If despotism could be made to give us these enjoyments , then despotism would be the best ; if democracy would give them us , then democracy would be

      the best From good evidence , it was proved that the despotism of Austria produced more of these advantages than the democracy of America . He appealed in proof of this to Turnbull ' s History of Austria , andltt the authority of many intelligent travellers in America . We expect more from Governments than they were able to achieve even in their meat perfect form . The people must be made intelligent—must be made acquainted with their wrongs , and the true remedy , before they can expect tbe Government to comply with their demands . Is America free from misery ? is she not now likely to be engaged in the honors of a war ? The Charter would give you only a partial advantage . Why go for a part when you may as easily attain the whole . Tou have long been advocating tbe principles

      of the Charter . My father was incarcerated for Chartist principles . Mr . Fleming here contrasted the agitation for Socialism as compares with thatof Chartism , blaming the conduct of some of the leaders connected with the agitation of 1839 , and stated that men with property and intelligence would always command influence in the state . The amount of prejudice had been alluded to . Had not the Chartists tbe prejudices of the two Houses of Parliament to contend against ? How will you overcome this ? They treat your petitions with contempt , and throw them under the table till that day six months . ( Laughter . ) " God helps those who help themselves . " We will not depend on the Government ; we have set about helping ourselves . ( Loud cheering . )

      Mr . Rcffy Ridley rose amid loud applause . He had been a Socialist previous to being a Chartist ; but experience bad convinced him that the Charter must become the law of the land ere we could expect to see flourishing social communities , and from that time he had agitated for the Charter as a means to an end , as just and necessary in itself , and as leading to further ameliorations in our political and social condition . Chartism was calculated to arouse the people to a sense of their wronged condition—to the imperative necessity there existed for a change : it would lead them to reflect upon evils in the social condition , to which they were previously indifferent Physical force bad been alluded to . They had no idea of gaining their object by physical force ; it was not true that they ever had . The conduct of individuals had been alluded to ; but was the whole body to be blamed for tbe acts of tbe

      few ? Would Socialism bear that test 1 Had they none among their ranks who had injured and then deserted them ? Socialism was a work of time ; it would not come into general operation for a century to come . Despotism had been alluded to . Of what advantage would it be if despotism allowed them to raise Incipient communities , and when they progressed toward perfection immediately put them down ? ( Hear , hear . ) But let the Charter become the law—let the democratic principle prevail , and they might then raise their communities in safety . ( Loud cheers . ) He believed the people were intelligent enough ; they were not the destructives prejudice had represented them to be . They did not want to destroy the rights of others ; but they only wanted the means of enjoying their own . ( Loud cheers ) Mr . Turner explained . !

      Mr . Bailey , Socal lecturer , said be would consider the two measures , Socialism and Chartism . He would refer them to those places where tbe principles of tbe Charter were in operation , and they would see that it had not effected the good which was hoped from it It contained no great moral principle . We should truly have Universal Suffrage , the Billot , Ac , all good enough in themselves ; bat then we should still have competition . Would not the wealthy speculator , the landed aristocrat , speedily find means to counteract the effects

      of the Charter ? True , you have tbe Ballot ; but they -would soon take steps to ascertain the way in which their dependents had voted . He admitted that greater prejudice existed against Socialism , but it was because they were not acquainted with its principles ; but this would evaporate before the spread of information . And would not the same prejudice exist if they exercised political power ?—would they not exercise it to suppress Socialism T ( Loud cries of " No , no . " ) Socialism embraced the rights ef man and woman . ( Hear , hear . ) It w as , therefo rethe most perfect measure .

      Mr . Parry and Mr . C . F . Goodfellpw both claimed the right to speak ; but after some little delay , Mr . Goodfellow gave way to ' Mr . Parry , who paid a high compliment to Mr . Owen , and the lecturers of the Social Institution ; but he must join issue with Mr . Fleming with respect to Austria and America . Along with the physical comforts of Austria , there existed the greatest bondage : its inhabitants were bound in the most servile fetters under tbe Government of Ferdinand and Metternich . No subject dared to give utterance to an opinion of his own , if it varied from tbe Government standard . Surely , they vrho were for unlimited freedom of opinion could not be enamoured of a state of society like that existing in Austria .

      Mr . Bailey said that Socialism professed to do everything that would tend to the welfare of man . Chartism did net profess half so much ; be therefore preferred Chartism , because it was more practicable . It bad been objected that the people -were not intelligent enough to possess political power : it was the same objection which , at the time of the Reform Bill , the aristocracy brought against the grocer , the cheesemonger , &c . ; and you may depend upon it , if you wait till your intelligence is admitted , you will never obtain the Charter . ( Loud cheers . ) Mr . Fleming moved the adjournment of the question until next Friday , which was carried . The place was more densely crowded , if possible , than at any former meeting , and greut interest was manifested in the proceedings . The above is but an outline uf the proceedings , uur correspondent being compelled to bo present at an important Trade Delegate Meeting .

      Tailors . —Publio meeting of ChartiBts , at the Doves , Berwick-street , Golden-square , Mr . in the chair . In consequence of tbe illness of Mr . Stall-wood , Mr . Wheeler lectured here on Wednesday evening to the great satisfaction of his audience . A subscription was entered into in aid of tbe funds of the Council , and several new members were enrolled . Votes of thanks were passed upon the Lecturer and Chairman , and tbe meeting concluded with a variety of patriotic and sentimental songs . City of Lo : idon . —Chartist Hall , 55 , Old Bailey , Thursda y e v ening , October 21 . Public" meeting of Chartists , Mr . Dale in the chair . Mr . Wheeler lectured

      here on the subject of " Class Legislation , " and was ranch applauded by the company present , who were not so numerous as had been expected , though this may be justly attributed to its imperfect announcement and the inclement state of the evening . Messrs . Fussell , 8 unpson , Mills , &c briefly addressed the meeting at t . he ionclusion of the lecture , and the company depa . ttet' with the Sim determination of exerting their energies to ensure a full meeting on the ensuing Thursday . "

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      PUBL 1 . " MEETING AT STOCKPORT . In conseqi wnce of Uw thousands walking the streets tor the want of employment , aud turnouts to resist the enorn UD * reduction offered by the cotton masters , and the \ * 8 fc amount of privation and distress which prevails in 1 ° ** town , tbe committee of the working mendepuU * * eve ] lJ / > ' Ui « i * own body to wait upon the Msyor and &IagiiErates , to request to be allowed the Court Room oa Friday , ( as no use was made of it on that day , ) l ' * ' the purpose of convening a public meeting of all pt . ltlc * . to lay before them the condition of the working . classes , an 4 solicit the aid of

      the public in adopting , & tma I" * n to obtain relief . Accordingly , the persons u PPolated waited apart the Mayor on Thursday , who , * "Hnout the least hesitation , gave . tbcm a peremptory r « i ' •***• Seeing they could not have the Court Room , am . *• " ** oth « r room in the town being sufficiently large for » mseting of the des eripUoa contemplated , they imnu * iateiy issued placards calling a meeting for twelve o ' c toek , in the Market Place , on Friday ; at which hoi v * numerous eoncourse of people had assembled 'No hustings being prepared , a butcher very kindly leh * his cart for tbe speakers .

      Mr . James Selbt was called to the' duux , and introduced Mr . Tuomas Clarke to move the fit ^ resolution , which was as follows : —

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      " That , in the opinion of this meeting , the conduct of the cotton masters of this town is highly reprehensible , in taking the wages from those by whose toil and sweat they have amassed snefc iarge fortunes ,, erected their stately mansions , ^ e ^ and , mote especially , because it it injurious to thenuelveti and the public by destroying the best market , namelyt tb ^ e hoine consumption . " _•• ¦ . ¦ ;; ¦ . ; ' . ¦ . . ' ¦ . ; ¦ .. : ' . ¦¦ ¦" . The speaker , after addressing the congregated thousands ss fellow-sufferers , ssM tnst the conduct of the master manufacturers of Stockport , in his opinion , was in good keeping with theii acts for a number ef years . They had always been first in the field in attempting a reduction—they had , on all occasions , made that town tbe eess-posl of corruption—they bad

      invariably set the example of plunder , in their endeavours to grind the face of the industrious poor . Bat why was it that they could thus make such encroachments upon the rights of labour ? Because they had the making of the law which , protected property , and which the working , classes were . compelled ; to obey , althoagh made without their consent , and which afforded no protection . Wen the working classes to attempt to resist the unjust aggression of the property Class , there would be the bayonet's point or the cannon ' s nwHith set before them ; whilst every step the masters took in the combinations against the interest of the working men was recognised by the magistrates , and sanctioned by the law . ( Hear , hear . ) . They had always been assisted in their work « f plunder and devastation by the money-mongering middle class and shopkeepers . They could not carry their diabolical schemes into operation without their consent and co-operation .

      Those poor , ignorant , blind fools could not aee that their profits would be larger—that they would have more customers if the working classes were properly paid for their labour ; their petty pride and foolishness caused them rather to stick to class and social distinction than assist the people in their jost and righteous demands for political power . Tbore were np wards of 7 , 0 *» out of employment In the borough ; the streets were lined from morning till night with honest , sober , and industrious artisans , famishing and dying of hanger . Mr . Clark made a capital speech , in which he pourtrayed the miseries of the people , and denounced the conduct of the masters . ¦ He shewed how reductions acted upon society , and declared his conviction that Trades' Unions or combinations would be insufficient to keep up wages ; and concluded , after moving the resolution , by calling upon the working men to join the Charter Association , as their only plan of salvation . ¦ . . -

      Mr . John Wbight seconded the resolution in a neat and sensible speech , showing the dreadful state of the people , and like tbe preceding speaker , contended that there was no hope for tbe working man until he was fully and fairly represented . He touched upon the corruptions of the banking system ; exposed the moneymongers and swindlers ; and gave a severe oasUgation to the cruel and unfeeling cotton lords . The Chairman put the resolution , and it was carried without one dissentient Mr . Charles Davies moved the second resolution : —

      " That the working classes of this town are in a mos deplorable condition ; trangei and st&rv&Uon prevailing to an alarming extent ; and that reductions have a tendency to Increase misery and crime , and injure society both locally and nationally ; and that the only way to benefit the Industrious millions is to give them a power over tbe law by granting Universal Suffrage , and thus enable them to protect their labour , which is the source of all wealth , against the encroachments of the capitalists . " ¦ -- ¦ . Mr . Davies said , in that cart they saw three men who wished for work , but could not btaln any , in addition to the numbers who were in the same condition in that vast assembly . He thought there was nothing in that resolution which was very stringent—no

      physical force—nothing calculated to frighten the old women in the town . ( Laughter . ) He bad been deputed to go to Ashton , when be met a gentleman , who told him that the Stockport masters were always first in making reductions . He eould not agree with them ; the working msn ' s wages , said the gentleman , were already too low , aud the proposed reduction was , entirely uncalled for . Mr . Davies hers related the whole of the conversation which took place betwixt them . The gentleman told him to go through every town in England and expose the Stockport masters , gave 5 s . for the spinners , and told them to call upon him every week for half a crown . He afterwards went to Oldham , Blackburn , and Chorley , and inquired amongst the cotton masters , who all declared there was no necessity for a reduction ; but when the masters of Stockport commenced , the others were obliged to follow , having to meet them in the same market Mr . D . then enumerated the cases of distress which

      had come under bis own notice , which completely horrified the audience , and a burst of execration , and cries of" shame , shame , " rang from every part of the meeting . Englishmen would not much longer put up patiently with such treatment ; they bad in that town manifested every disposition to maintain peace and obtain a living bj ^ bonest toil if they could , but it could not remain in the present state much longer . It was too much to expect that honest , industrious , sober men , willing to work , could they obtain it , at a price which would keep body and « oul together , would « it idly by , to see their wives literally starved to death by inches , and their children crying for food . They had conducted themselves peaceably hitherto , and only wished for a fair remuneration for their labour . The working man must no longer be deluded by Whigs or Tories , but unite for one given object before they could make both factions yield to their just demands . He concluded an excellent speech by moving the resolution .

      Mr . Joseph Carter seconded it in a short and humourous speech . Mr . Campbell supported the resolution In a powerful , convincing , and argumentative speech , lamented the circumstances which had called that meeting together . Mr . Griffin was next called upon and addressed the meeting for about an hour in support of tbe resolution , after which , Tbe Chairman put it to the meeting , when a forest of hands were held up in its favour . A vote of thanks was given to the gentleman who lent the cart , and the Chairman . Mr . Griffin then moved a vote of censure on the Corn Law Repealing authorities , for not letting the working men have the Court room . This was seconded and carried unanimously . The people then quietly dispersed . i i ^ fc .

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      TO THE EXILES OF ERIN . Fellow-Men , —In addressing myself to you , I shall endeavour to avoid making use of any expression calculated to wound your national pride , which might be more properly termed your love of country , and rest assured , should any sentiment be traced by my pen calculated to wound the feelings of a true Irishman , I shall very much regret the having caused a single disagreeable sensation to arise in such Irishman ' s b reast Mind , I say true Irishman ; that is , one who really Iovcb bfa country for his country ' s sake ; and not the

      follower of this or that man—tbe supporter of this or that particular measure ; but the' advocate of pure unsullied truth and universal liberty . My object Is to heal , not to wound ; to convince not to csndemn ; to unite not to sever ; to fraternise not to produce dissension ; if , therefore , I should draw some severe comparisons between certain popular characters of the present day , mark well , and appreciate properly my conclusions upon those comparisons , before you pronounce upon the truth or falsehood of those decisions , or condemn the picture which I shall draw for , as it may be , your amusement or instruction .

      You have been taught , alas ! I faar too successfully taught to believe that the people—mind , tbe people , the poor oppressed , and like yourselves , enslaved people of England , ore your most bitter enemies and deadly foes , and the common tyrants of the enslaved of both countries have given you too much reason to believe such to be the case ; for , mark it well , whilst they have sent English soldiers into Ireland—oppressed Irelandto protect the pampered ministers of tbe Protestant Church , in their unrighteous plunderings of the poor industrious Catholic farmers , they have with your best pigs , egiis , butter , bacon , beef , mutton , poultry , &c , imported the worst , and , in many instances , most unfortunate of the sons of ould Jrefond to butcher and bludgeon the oppressed people of England . Yes , my

      friends , I could point many instances to yon of the people of this country having met for the express purpose of recording their sympathies for their oppressed fellow slaves of Ireland , when armed ruffians , a disgrace to the country which gave them birth—have rushed upon tbe assembled people , and indiscriminately floored , as they have termed ib , men , women , and children , the young and the aged , the weak and the unarmed strong , have shared the same fate , and I have no doubt but that murderous bands of Englishmen have been guilty of similar acts in Ireland : they , too , were a disgrace to the land of their birth . The inhabitants of a country may disgrace themselves and their country , but their country will never d isgrace them ; but what is it that is worthy of remark : in this ?

      Sons of Erin , learn to discriminate between the acts of a people , and the black deeds of the united English and Irish aristocracy , who by the means above described hold both you and us in bondage , and perpetuate that misery and degradation to which they have alike reduced us ; hasten to humanisei that discord which bur unchristian taskmasters and fell deceivers have produced amongst us . No more allow the cry of repeal to be raised in vain ; no longer allow it to be a bugaboo to frighten the Tories ; make the word repeal to mean liberty—real , pure , demfcratio liberty ; for , if repeal only means restoring to College Greek such a Parliament as that which Ireland had previous to the

      Union , that Parliament which sold the liberties of Ireland to the despotic faction , which tyranfeed over England's sons , and blighted the hopes of the liberty-loving of all Europe , then will repeal add but another expensive bolt-link to the ponderous chain , which binds alike Irishmen , Englishmen , and all the . rest of the unhappy sons of toil ; the enslaved of nearly tin whole of the civilised world . Yes , my friends , one Parliament is enough for us to support , whilst the righ ts of labour are prostrated before the baneful influences of labour ' s accumulated produce , whilst dark opaque substances have the unnatural power of reflecting iatelligenaiea denied to tbe creature which gives them form and beauty—a Parliament onstracted pon nub tHao

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      principles cannot , will not cure the crying evils which hourly curse poor " ould Ireland . " - No , no she must have a domestic legislature , in deed , as well as in name —a Parliament which flhall be the mirror of the publio mind—a Parliament founded upon the rights of man , and the immotable principles qt truth and justice . Remember the . straggles of the Exiles of Erin , of the dead and the banished , and of the legally murdered Emmett ; isay was it for a Whig Parliament they plotted and suffered or was . it for equal right and equal laws ; and moreover , Is not an . Irishman as capable if acting BionjBatlT . and patriotically in Ireland as as well as In America , or does the crossing the herring

      pond make men virtuous , generous , and just . Dont believe such blarney ,, Paddy , Ifc is every Irishman ' s interest to b * a patriot in America , and It is made the interest of , every Irishman to get as much as be can for bis vote ,, or serve a particular faction in Ireland ; but thank Heaven , the bright Star or Xeeds has risen over your We , and soon shall Its intellectual effulgence illumine your merry hearts and witty heads , and cause you to seek and obtain , unconditional , unencumbered Repeal , through that magnificent document , the soul of liberty arid love—the People ' s Charter j a document to whose principles its very opponemts cannot demur , being obliged to admit on all occasions that they are founded oh strict moral justice . . ¦

      O my oppressed fellow-slaves , let me , on this occasion , conjure yeu to look into ' the past history of your misgoverned country ; allow my pen to remind you of a few patriotic actions of the honourable gentlemen who composed Ireland's last Parliament , ; , and then say whether such a Parliament would not be a double curse to your already over-taxed country .. I know I may be here met with a long plausible argument upon absenteeism ; bnt never heed it , Paddy , sure there's no such thing on "rint days . " The landlord is always

      present in the person of his agent ... Dont you know the law of primogeniture has endowed the aristocracy with the attribute , emnipresence ; so that a great man may be in Ireland and Rome at the same time , or in England voting away the forty shillings franchise of Ireland , and at a gatimg bouse in Paris , squandering away the hard earnings of thousands « f ill-clad and ill-used generous-hearted , unsuspecting Irishmen ; and sure it must be so , for what else do the gentlemen go to college and study physics , metaphysics , logic , hocuspocus , astrology , and appropriation ?

      And ' now , Paddy , as they say , John Bull , in this land of Chartists , for a slap at a few of the illustrious members of Ireland's traitor Parliament and patriotic landholders—that is if I can find an organ of communication . WM . Tillman . 2 , Collins-street , Manchester . [ To be continued next week . ]

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      THE INFERNAL AND ACCURSED WHIG BASTILE ; OR , NEW MODEL PRISON , IN COPENHAGEN FIELDS , PENTONVILLE , NEAR HOLLOWAY . TO TUB BBALLY INXSUuIOSKT AND HUMANE PORTIONS OF THE PEOPLE OP ENGLAND . Friends and FBtLOW-CotTNTRYHEN , —It la now twelve months come twelve o'clock this night since I called your attention , through the medium of the Star , to the erection of this infernal structure , since which time the hell-guided bands of the demons employed thereon have brought it all but to a completion ; yes ,

      the cells , which , no doubt , at some not far distant day , will prove tbe " tombs '' of many of you , are nearly finished ; and the doors which are intended to secare you , so long as the spark of life remains within you , are made so recure , that you might as well attempt to destroy the bastile itself with a bodkin aa to force one of them . The manner , too , in which such cells and doors are constructed , to prevent even your loudest exclamations for food from being heard , and , what is more diabolical , your cries when the gaolers are lashing you , Is the very perfection of fiendish ingenuity , and entitles the inventor to the first place in " The Royal Academy " in Hell , when the Devil pleases to call him there .

      But , what matters it , Englishmen ! to the factions who oppress you , whether you are murdered in such cells or not ? You know they never feel for you , be your sufferings never so excruciating ; and you are sure they will not be called to account—in this world at least—for what their tools may do to you ; for , as your friends will not be permitted to visit you , and your cries will only be heard by that God , whose mercies you slight by not raising your voices against such atrocities , who win be witnesses against them ? What matters it to either the Whig or Tory fiends who call

      themselves yeur " rulers" (?) whether you are starved , hung , or flayed to death ? They want you out of the world , it is plain , or why do they oppress and starve you ?* And what matters it to them in what manner you go out ? Why , if you were all to be Claytonised this winter , they would not care , for then they would not be " annoyed" with your demands for food and justice next sessien ; therefore , you should not look to them for redress in such cases ; and I am sorry to say that many of you have , it being as ridiculous to beg as it is folly to expect it from them .

      What weakness , I would ask , can be equal to that of allowing , by your alienee , as you have done , astracture to be raised in which all the tortures of hell are to be icflicted , and then praying the " Honourable (?) House , " who sanction them , nut to be too severe upon you , not to enforce the Bilent portion of this infernal system ? Why , Englishmen I what is the meaning of the term " silent , " in such cases as the present ? Can any ef you who have petitioned divine It ? I cannott The victim , we will say , is confined in a strong stone cell , which is so constructed that not the slightest sound could be heard , so that a man may be raving mad—and many will be—and not even his next neighbour in affliction would know of it ; the construction of tbe water-closets would convince you of this , the pipes leading therefrom being stopped with valves to prevent one victim from tolling another that he is being murdered by his keeper I What matters it , then to the victimized inmates of this accursed abode of

      wretchedness and despair , whether the silent system is in effect or not ? Thetentime 8 more horrid system of private torture ( of which you do not make any mention in jour petitions ) will be worse than the most rigorous measure of " the driving . men-mad system" to them , it will drive them mad tho sooner ; and thus will they be the easier " got rid of , " especially ?• if" they destroy themselves and the jailers , you know , will , like the government (?) who employ them , be " above suspicion" ! Now , you know , fellow-countryman , that I am not for " tit-bit reform , " that I would not have it if it were offered , if I could help il , much less agitate for it ; and when I tell you that I shall not be content with anything

      1638 than the total destruction of this bastile , you may be sure that I shall not stop half-way and say , "Oh , its a pity to destroy so splendid an edifice , cannot we save it by abolishing the tortures which are intended to be inflicted therein ? " I tell you , Englishmen , that I will not rest until both are destroyed I I am not like many of you have proved yourselves to be , for softening down a part of the cruelties which are therein to be inflicted . I am for abolishing the system from which the whole of them spring ; destroy the Bastile , and where are its " horrors" ? Englishmen , does not that question convince you of tbe justice of that which I advocate ? Aye , and methinks I hear you exclaim to a man , " The Bastile shall come down . "

      There can , Englishmen , be but one rational opinion upon this subject , and that is , that this accursed fabric must be taken down after the passing of the Charter , by men appointed for that purpose by a really honourable and universally elected House of Commons , it is of no use whatever to expect it before , and madness not to do it after ; let some charitable institution be reared upon the spot , and thus of an infernal beginning , make in the name of all that is just an merciful , a most Godlike end ! Sir Peter Laurie has told you from bis magisterial bench , at tha Mansion House , that he is against the silent system , and that he hopes it will soon be abolished ;

      and the Editor of the Weekly Dispatch on the faith of such hopes , declares it will prove a settler for the tortures which ore to bo hflictedin . the Hollo way Roads Bastile I Why , he would not know if you was to ask him 1 This " Holloway Ointment" will cot do for me ; : t may " soothe" for a time those who have not given the case the consideration which the atrociousness of it demands , and may prove " a blessing to mothers' * who are rearing sons that will be , perhaps , doomed to perish in this bastile ; for such as these it is all very well , very well , indeed . At least , until they get" safely stowed" in the bastile , and then tha logic which they trusted to in the Dispatch will prove a dispatch to them in right earnest !

      Englishmen , you have all heard of the French Bastile , and you know that it was destroyed , though many of you . do Dot know what it was destroyed for . Men , women , and children were sent in there , and tortured to death , in the like manner which you will beinyour ' s , that is , privately ; their friendswere notallowed tosee them any more than will your ' s . [ Are you not struck with the similtude of the systems of these two bells ?] And the demons , who had the care of such Pandemonium , therefore , denied , as they will in England , that the persons whom they 'had murdered had ever entered 1

      I am not for unnecessary rebellions , and , therefore , I do most confidently think , that the best way to prevent one in this country—on this subject , at least—is to abolish that which , ( even if we had a Republic , and we shall have in time , ) would lead to one , the bastUes ; for , in addition to toe muwtel wbioh will b » most assuredly perpetrated hi them , the blood spilt in the encounter between the bartfles and vttie people would be most lamentable , and without , I may add , any rtal service tit the cause of humanity , as tae former , from the secure position wbioh they would occupy in tbe various towers , could shoot all around the walls , without ever reoeiving one shot themselves ; and this is what no reasonable person eould wish , as it would actually be a victory of Hell ' s worst demons over God ' s noblest and most benevolent people !

      Let ua then think no more—in this case , at leastof remedying this evil , or that evil , or petitioning this House or that House for any such remedy ; but push on at a four million of horse power for the Charter , and destroy the system from which they spring . No man in hissengeg would think that he could exterminate thistles from the land by merely cutting them down , as he must know tfcat by so doing he would enable them to spring

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      up afresh , and in increased numbers and vigour . What then , would he do ? Why , uproot them aitosethwi Now , this fair land , ota which tbe devil , fa bnTofwi worst saoods , sowed tbe seeds of PandemonittminT cannot produce anything else , so long as the BasUle , » Pandemonina ) germ , Is suffered to remain , ' thereoiL and , if you i # ould exterminate it , you must begin at tS root—no lopping Off the branches will " do , " for it ? can assure you , U ljka the . ftery dragon ^ of 8 t Geor »> unlessyou . entU ^ lya « ii % . U , it WJU destroy you I ' « . ¦ * 1 WM Q $ n& * SWI > efcmpioiii im the work of justice , and humanity r and let you * , «¦» good feelings be your leaders , for then you wDTliaW enthusiastic ones , and when the Charter of our liberal Is established , let us begin the work in right earnest he that is for saving any portion of the accursed fab * must bring bis wheel-barrow , and much good may it Z him , say I ; the Devil himself may come in the petJ »

      or wormanDy , * a ne uses , ana carry away the cait loads of defiled rubbish sprung from hji accursed seed , and when the ground is properly cleared of it the seeds of charity , nurtured by fostering hsids-I am sure they win be—would rise to bless our toUsi would also a nation ' s thanks to heaven that the Bit inquisition in this country was also the last ; and that from the indignation consequent upon its Introduction * so many poor Individuals wilt be comfortably housed clothed , and fed in a charitable InstitituSon I ^^ Englishmen , as this is the first anniversary of n » bastile article , I bAve writ UxU in eonmemoratlon . ^ fft and in order that the subject may be kept before to ?

      I propose to write one on the 18 th of every October . if not oftener , until the Bastile be destroyed . I kno » that by making this frank avowal of my intention I shall make invidious enemies of many rognes fo high quarters ( of Whig and Tory breed ) , who wft no doubt be laying their traps to ensnare melnfc their meshes , as they did poor Frost for declarh his intentions ; but if they do , I care not , I will , wife the blessing of God , defy the one " , and , with the $ of God , destroy the other . Believe me , Friends and Countrymen , Yours , in the cause of justice and humanity , Henrt Dowell Griffith ! , No . 11 , Winchester-row , Edgware-road , Londcs Tuesday morning , ten o ' clock , ' Oct 19 th , 1841 .

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      From the London Gazette of Friday , Oct . 22 . BANKRUPTS . Richard Archard Jones , Friday-street , Cheapdde , Manchester warehouseman , to surrender Nor . 3 , it eleven , Dec- 3 , at twelve , at the Court of Bunkraptcj , Basinghall-alreet . Solicitors , Messrs . Lofty and Potter , King-street , Cheapside ; official assignee , Mr . Joim » i , Basinghall-street . John Smith , Deptford-bridee , hatter , Oct 30 , DecJ , at eleven , at the Court of Bankruptcy , BasiDgball-Jtrat Solicitors , Messrs . Collins and Rigley , Crescent-place , Bridge-street , Blackfriars ; official assignee , Mr . Islington , Coleman-street-buildlngs . George Summerbays Henley , Savoy-street , Strutf > auctioneer , Nov . 2 , at one , Dec . 3 , at eleven , at tbe Court ef Bankruptcy , Basinghall-street Solicitor , Mt Dickinson , Pall-mall ; official assignee , Mr . Oratuuit Basinghall-street

      Nathaniel Fraley and Joseph Emery Merchant , Brirtot linen-drapers , Nov . 3 , at two , Dec . 3 , at twelve , » t the Commercial-rooms , Bristol . Solicitors , Messrs . Jenkia and Abbott , New Inn ; and Messrs . Clarke , aud Briton , Bristol . Nathaniel Fraley , Bristol , linen-draper , Nov . & Dec 8 , at two , at the Commercial-iooms , Bristol Solicitors , Mr . Wansey , Lothbury , and Mr . Hassefl Bristol . Thomas Peters , Cambridge , tailar , Nov . 4 , Dec J » at eleven , at the Red Lion Inn , Cambridge . Solidtors , Mr . Adcock , Cambridge ; and Mr . Smith , Bedford-row . Benjamin James and John Merris James , Manchester , tanners , Nov . 4 , at one , Dec . 3 , at two , at tfl » Commisaioner ' s-rooms , Manchester . Solicitors , Mesai Lowndes , Robinson , and Batesoo , Liverpool ; Mess Sbarpe , Field , and JacksonBedford-row .

      , William Haalett , Liverpool , provision-dealer ^ 1 , Dec . 3 , at one , at the Clarendon-rooms , Liverpool Solicitors , Messrs . Adlington , Gregory , Faulkner , U " Follett , Bedford-row ; and Messrs . Llttledale and Eu * well , Liverpool Edward Burapstead , Halesworth , Suffulk , gr «* Nov . 2 , Dec . 3 , at one , at the King ' s Head Inn , Bow * Solicitors , Messrs . Thompson , Field , and J > ibe > W Salters'Hall . James Galpin , sen ., Marhull , Dorsetshire , matt ** Nov . 1 , Deo . 3 , at twelve , at the Greyhound Inn , Bb »> ford Forum . Solicitors , Mr . Combe , Staple Inn ; •» Mr . Phillips , Weymouth . \ William Milnes Atkinson , Beccles , Suffolk , »«* ster , Nov . 2 , Dec 3 , at one , at the King ' s Head-m Beccles . Solicitors , Messrs . Teesdale , Symes , ana n ¦* ton , Fcnchurch-street

      PAEINERSHIPS DISSOLVED . R . M . H . Crosbieand W . M'Lean Heywood , 1 MB ®™ drapers ., A . G . Robinson and R . Talbot , Liverpool w-f ' Knowles and J . Roberts , Liverpool , ironmonger * . *• " * A . Leee , and G- Hallas , Oldham , Lancashire , eoal -or chants . J . W . Meoreand J . B . Moore , LiTerpoA ™* chants . J . Blackburn and T . Holdsworth . «« " ¦ " Lancashire , joiners . W . S . Morris and J . F . ^ , r \ Chester , calico-printers . T . Dugdale , B- W *? 7 * Robinson , R . Baxter , and T . Littler , Tflttsbf 1 " ' cashire , coal-proprietors .

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      From the Gazette of Tuesday , Oct . 28 . bankrupts . «* James Ebenezsr Smnders , jun ., flsn "k ^\ Bj * Thames-street , Loiidon , to surrender , Nor . 3 , i r ' \ . and Dec . 7 , at eleven , at the Court of B 3 " 1 ?!^! Lackington , official assignee , Coleman -streeWnw 4 " * 1 1 Walters and Reeve , Basinghall-street - '" xLis * John Hall and Samuel Vincent , tea and coff **^; St Mary Axe , Nov . 5 and Dec . 7 , at the Court on »" ruptcy ; Edward Edwards , official assignee , F « 6 sn » place , Old Jewry ; Hughes Kearsey , snd Mast * "" " Backlersbury . « r- *« l * , John Tomes Watson , linen-draper , " ^ Trf Nov . 11 , and Dec . 7 , at twelve , at tbe ^ w ^ j Messrs . Hydes and Tynibs , Worcester . H ^ rLi * , Davidson , Cateaton-street , London ; Hydes andAT *" Worcester , . : . . "„« - ** ' Pellegrino Roaselli , merchant , Lime-street , ® J ^! 2 , at one , and Dec . 7 , at eleven , at the Court « J » £ ruptcy . Green , Aldermanbury , official assignee ; **¦» Mincing-lane .. „_« & James Alexander Smith , and William Moffl ^ linen-drapers , Oxford-street , Nov . 3 , at e 16 ™^* Dee . * , at twelve , at the Court of Bankmp tajM * " " Aldermanbury , official assignee ; Lloyd , Cb ^ I ** r John luff Freeland , innkeeper , Worcester , J ^ and Dae . 7 . at eleven , at the Crown Inn , " * f « 4 Bedford , Gray ¦ s-inn-square , London ; Bedfordsno ^ cock , Worcester . ' « er . h Henry Budd , tobacco-merchant , Birming ham , j ^ snd Deo . 7 , at eleven ^ at the Waterioo-rooufl , «* £ * , bam . Shaw , Ely-place , Holborn , London } UP" * Kingston-upon-Hull . « . — < $ *¦ William Playne , saddler , snd harness-mtfW ^ ceater , Not . 4 , and Dec . 7 , at twelve , at the offl *^ Bailey , Gloucester . Bailey , Gloucester ; ****

      Gamlin , Gray ' s-inn , London . / , ««*« Edward Raine and John Raiue . carpet-nianw ^ 4 Barnard-Castle , Durham , Nov . 8 . and V » j ^ eleven , at the Kings Head Inn , Bamard-Csw ^ jj , ardson , Bar » ard-Castie ; I / as , Beaufort *"" Strand , London .

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      L 0 SD 05 . —Social Institution , John-street , Tottenham-couri-road , Mr . Charles in the chair . Mr . Turner opened the discussion , on the question " Which is most worthy of support , Socialism or Chartism ? " He was opposed to Chartism on many points—he would touch upon a few : It was a nonentity ; it was not based upon

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      * Let Sir Robert Peel ' s motion for proroguing Pa , liament until February next , " to take into consida . atton the extreme destitution , said to exist amou nt the people , " after the cold has frozen some seven ! hundreds of them to death , as it doubtless will , « . awer this question . , t In , my former article on this subject I stated 00 the authority of persons well acquainted with tfe whole affair , that " the silent , or driving-man-nti system would be rigorously enforced . " When Z nudi this statement I believed , as indeed did many otts ; persons who heard of it , that the silent system spoku of were to be the same as that enforced in the ft *

      vtiley , Northallerton , and other bells , but I find free the construction of the various cells , dee . that it is mt so ; the silent system , if such it can be called , whi& is to be adopted in the New Bastile is to be of ate different and more atrocious character , as it to iv tended to convey to the minds of those prisoners via pass ( masked !) through the body of the prison , fiat all is perfectly quiet in the different cells , whenu , as I have stated in my present article , no sound ccsU possibly be heard through the doors or walls of tbea . What silent system can equal this ? and what ebt but the total destruction of the Bastile eould n . medy it ? X Tbe founder and chief superintendent of tk Bastile . A ^ f f-i t \ r \'\ fit' a ~ ¦ ^^^ SBS ^ M ¦ . > . — . . ^^^

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      . Signs op thb Times . —At Bow-street , on Fridw four yonng men camo before the sitting magistrate ( Mr . Ttvyford ) requesting he would order tha relief from some quarter for they were in a state gf starvation . One ot them stated that he came fro * Frome , in Somersetshire , where he and his parati before him had resided for many years , bat betu unable to obtain employment there , he had corne t ^ to London in the hope of bettering hiB condition ; h » was willing to work , but unable to get employment His companions told a similar tale . Mr . Twrford sent for the relieving officer of the Strand Union , but that functionary refused to do anything forths

      poor fellows , besause they had slept the previoa night in parishes out of the Union . Mr . Twyfori said he had no power to compel the Union officer to do anything for them , and they were turned onto the office to do the best they could for themselves . Such are the blessings of the New Poor Law Ac ; , A magistrate , however much disposed to do so has no power to assist a poor honest hard-working mu : but , if he chooses to forfeit that character , md become either a thief or a beggar , why in either ease the magistrate has the power of committing him to prison , where he will have food and shelter , bit for mere poverty , unattended with a breach of ths law , he can do nothing .

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Oct. 30, 1841, page 6, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct867/page/6/