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THE PETITION CONVENTION . THURSDAY , Mat 15 . Mr . Pitkethly in the chair . The Convention Hill had this evening a very full attendance of members and strangers . The minutes of the last meeting taring been coht finned , Mr . Skevington stated that the Loughborough petition had received 1 , 35 s additional signature * . Mr . Rose said that he had had an interview with the Member for Lambeth , upon whose support they mightdepend . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Hswes made most par-_ :
ticular inquiries into Mr . O"Brien " s case , wished to see his letters , and to haTe an interriew with Dr . M'Douail , so that he might be made . well acquainted with his state of health . Mr . Hawes was of opinion that he should be immediately released . He further said tfryt he would attend the Convention on Saturday morning . ( Hear , bear . ) He professed himself a Chartist , and declared that he felt himself bound to join ; in the opinions of the greatest number . ( Hear , hear . )] He also consented to form one of the deputation to wait 1 upon the Marquis of Normanby . ( Hear , hear . ) Messrs . Benjsmin Wood and Humphrey also promised their support
Mr . Cullen said that , in compliance with previous arrangements , the deputation waited yesterday upon Mr . FieJden , to ascertain if there was a possibility of obtaining an interriew with the Queen . ( Hear , hear . ) 3 Ir . Fielden seemed to know very little about the Court , and could give no opinion as to the way by which they could obtain an audience cf her Majesty ; General Johnson , upon whom they aleo waited , made very light of the matter and seemed to look upon it as delusive . He designated court dresses as tomfoolery , and said tLat the money expended upon thea would be a useless expenditure . ( Hear . ) He recommended the deputation to apply for advice at the Chamberlain s vf&ce . They did so . One gentleman , said that an interview with her Msjesty could be obtained , and that the memorials could be presented at -j all events on levee days . Another gentleman , who ap-J peared to have more experience than the former , said he i
would recommend the memorials 4 o be sent or pre- j seated to the Secretary of State for the Home Depart- j ment They then went to Mr . Fr&ncis Place ' s . On enter- i ing his office they found a gentleman apparently con j nected with the Government conversing with him , and j stating that G jvernment had decided upon a dissolution \ and that a declaration to that effect would be made in ; a day or two . { Hear . ) f The Chairhas—Did Messrs . Fielden and Johnson say that we could not get to the throne , or did they ) advise us not to go . ' Mr . CuIIen . —They gave no decided opinion . Mr . ! Place said that the Queen was surrounded by corruption , j and that she would continue to be surrounded by cor- ¦ rnptlon , until the working classes by their unanimity j overthrew both parties who were equally ta I and ' equally corrupt . ( Hear , hear . i In his ( Mr . Place ' s ) [ opinion a general election would enable the working ' classes to achieve that victory . ( Hear . ) !
Mr . Pitkethly , although he differed widely in politics i from Mr . Piace , yet he must acknowledge that at j various times he derived the greatest assistance from ] him . . When the three men were sentenced to be j hanged in Birmingham , Mr . Place -did all he could to i save them . iHear , hear . ) He acted the sams part in ' Frost ' s case . He devoted his time and his talents to ; the saving of Frost , Williams and Jones ' s lives . ( Hear , j hear . ) They should avail themselves of the assistance < of every man ; and without regarding Mr . Place ' s ^ M&Hhusian doctrines , they should look upon him as he was , a real R ^ publicm , and accept of his assistance . ; ( Hear , hear , hear . ! j Mr . Morgan—Tc 3 , we should make as many friends ; as possible . ( Hear , hear . i I
Mr . Cullen said that he underitood that members of ; Parliament -were admitted to her Majesty by courtesy , j and that Peers alone had ths right of demanding an j audience . ( Hear , hear ) . j Mr . Piikethly said that the deputation appointed to wait upon Lord Teynham respecting tlie presentation -, of the memorial , called at his Lordship's house , when they were informed that he was at Cheltenham . They then wrote to him on the sntyVct Mr . Wall s -. id thit a frightful system of corruption
was carried on by the Whigs . About twenty of thera met daily at Clevelmd-row , and made arrangements for the disposal of vacant places in the House of Commons . ' They agreed with the candidate who offered himself that if he succeeded , he should pay all the expences of ; the election , and that if defeated , he was to pay a ' cer tain portion of them . ( Hear , hear . ) Hume and Coppcck , the election agent , were at the head and tail j of the junta ; they should expose to the country the j bass and corrupt workings of that gang . —( Hear , J hear ) " ,
Mr . Pitkethly—They should take all the help that was offered , arid should not make enemies . —( Hear , hear . ) Dr . M'XKraall said , t >»»* the addres 3 to the country was ready . Mr . Pitkethly—The address s ' -on ' . d not be made public until the Convention wj 3 dis 3 olvei—( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Martin said , that it "would be \ reil to read the address then , and it could be in readiness for publication or the dissolution of the Convention . It was ultimately decided thai the reading of the a ^ dre ^ s be deferred till to-morrow ( Friday . ; Mr . Pitkethly said . that they should appoint a deputation to accompany Messrs . Hawes scd Bnller on Saturday . The memorials ought to be presetted separatejy , ami should be arranged by the committee for that purpose . — . Hear , hear . ) Mr . Smar ;—We will go ; and be all things as far a 3
Vecafl . A general committee , consisting of Dr . M-Doua'l , ' Messrs . Williams , Smart , Martin , acd Skevington , was j appointed to reid all letters , knd to expedite the gene- ] ral business ef tie Convention . _ \ Mr . Sierington said that he waited upon his o ^ ra j representatives , and other Membtrs of Parliament , an- \ he informed them that unless the condition of the ; starring and suffering people was ameliorated , that ; there -vroiild be no peace for the home of the rich , as ,: while such a state of things existed , there was no psac- ; for the poor man ' s cottage . ( Hear , hear . ) 1 Mr . Smart . —Avowed enemies were better than pre-: tended friends . If that redress was not affjrded to the j working classes , they shonld addres 3 the whole country , and threaten to ^ ottinghamise it , if the Members of Parliament refused to support the People ' s Memorials and the People ' s Char ter . ( Hear , bear . ) '
Mr . Wall said that the Marylebone petition had 1 , 500 signatures . After some roatina business the Convention ad- ioumed . FRIDAY , Mat 14 . . " Mr . B-iraiby in the chair . Mr , SkcTingtoa handed in a memorial from Leugh- borough , in favour of Messr 3 . Frost , Williams , and Jones . . Mr . Pi ' . kethly said that they were doing all in their power to ascertain , if they could obtain an interview with the Qae « n , as their constitutcts expressed a strong wish theysiould tfiVct it . After they had had an interview " with the gcnUeanen at the Chamberlain ' s office , who held out no hopes that an interview could be had , the deputation went to Mr . Piace , who agreed to make all necessary inquiries , stating at the same time his opinion that they ccuid nut have an interview with
her Majesty , or have an opportunity to present the memorials , unless at a levee . He was also of opinion that ths memorials should be presented to Lord Melbourne and the Ministry , and that it would have a greater impression than presenting them to the Queen . ( Hear , hear . ) The court dresses would , at least , cost £ . 20 , -which could be better appiied by dividing -it amongst the prisoners . ( Hear , hear . ) He ( Mr . Pitkethly ) waited upon Mr . Duncombe , who promised to speak in the House that night upon the state of the country . With regard to the tea or twelve pounds paid by Mr . Duncombe , he was gratified on being enabled to state that the post office intimated a ¦ n-iiiicg-Eess to refund it . ( Hear , heaT . ) He "went" to Mr . Berkeley , who expressed himself in similar terms with Air DoEcornbe . There was do doubt of their success , if the country sanctioned and supported them . As Mr . Dancombe was not en good terms ¦ with the Marquis
of 2 ^ ormaaby , it would be as well to stlect some other j p ^ r day , -would have his wages raised twopence per Member to accompany the deputation . ( Hear , hear . ) j d ± j ; he who earned two shillings would be benefitted Lord Konnaaby was greatly opposed to such depu-jat the rate of fourpence ; ard he -who earned four tations . j shillings , ' at the rate of eightpence per day . The
Mr . Smart said they had but one course to pursue , and that was to obtain , if passible , an audience of her Majesty . To obtain that they should exert every serve ¦ until they were fully satisfied that every access to her Msjesty was b'ocked up against them . ( Hear , hear . ) Then they could inform their constituents thai the royal ear was closed agv . nst their prayers . As soon as that gained publicity , it wonld make such an impression as would force every man who regarded civil liberty to join in the present struggle for freedom . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Rose—Has the Convention the power to interfere so for with the memorials as to direct or recommend the Committee to present them to any one but her Majesty ? Mr . Pitkeihiy—If we had your advice , it wouta strengthen our hands . We will , however , again try to present them . ( Hear , hear . )
Dr . M'BotsaH—We ean Twommend the Committee to adopt such measures as may appear advisable . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Phkfcthly said that Mr . Buncombe informed him that Mr . Collins had been with him , and urged him to present the memorials . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Williams—We have done our duty . Still we would not be justified to let the memorials pass from our hands without the approbation of the Birmingham Frost Committee . ( Hear , hear . ) We are . still willing to press on again and again for our interview with her Majesty , and to obey any further instructions th&t may be forwarJed from oar constituents . ( Hear , hear . ; Mr . Skevington—I dont see how we haTe done any tting so long as we are denied the interview with her Mijwty . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Smart—A refusal to see the Queen will do us no harm . ( Hear , hear . )
It was thenmoved and seconded , "That the address to fee couatry , as recommended by the general committee , be read and adopted . " Dr . M'DonaU then read the following address : —
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The Add / rets of the undersigned Members of the Victim-Restoration and Charter-Convention of the Industrious Classes , to the Working Men tf England , Scotland , and Wales—to the Members of the National Charter Association—and to the Chartist Electors of Great Britain . Fellow cootrvmeh and Brother Chartists —You have hononred ns with your confidence , and delegated to us the most sacred and important duties . We have endeavoured to realize your hopes ; and , in the pursuit of our humane and merciful mission , we have done everything which mature deliberation could devise or reason suggest . In one sense we have been successful , and In another we have failed . We have successfully appealed to many Members of Parliament , and have secured the support of men of opposite sentiments and interests . Mercy has been listened to by many , and justice has been
heard . On the other hand , we deeply regretthe obstinacy of an unrelenting and merciless Government , which still refuses to restore the lonely prisoner to his family , his fireside , and his friends , and which denies the far-distant exiles the hope of again beholding the shores cf old England , the scenes of their early youth , or the faces of their wives , their kindred , or their children . C » n these men expect your guppert at the next election ? They aspire to it now—they expect it hereafter , and therefore ft becomes our duty to caution you on the one hand , and advise with you on the other . At the present
crisis our duty is an important one ; and , feeling it to be so , we have found it necessary to act with caution , at the same time that we address yon with firmness We address you as men ruined in your trades , oppressed in your homes , and insulted in the midst of your poverty . The accursed Whig Poor Lvw has driven you to three of the worst of all ruinous alternatives . First , you are compelled to labour for poor and Inefficient wages ; secondly , to starve within the ironbarred bastile , or steal in defence of nature ; thirdly , to seek an uncertain refuge in the far distant lands c f the emigrant , or become the liveried servants of your oppressing masters .
| The centralised army of spies and blood-thirsty slave-drivers have destroyed your independence of action in your homes , and your freedom of speech in ths streets . We address you as men who are forced by bludgeon and bayonet beyond the pale of the constitution , whose best friends have been immured in dungeons , crowded in hulks , tortured on tread-mills , and even murdered by the cruel devices of a vindictive Government , in cells where the voice of friendship ceuld not soothe the agonies of death , or the tears of a sorrowing wife even fall on the body of the dead . We address you as Englishmen , Scotchmen , and Welshmen , who have laid a just and merciful prayer btf . > re the footstool of royalty ; and we ask you as fathers , as husbands , and as men , whether we ought to bear with patience continued reftual to our petitions , or suffer a government to insult with impunity our mild and csnstitntional demands ?
We have made our last deiinnd ; we have carried our last petition to the threne . We wait the issue with firmness , and leave the final result to the insulted God of justice and of mercy . We declare , withont hesitation or doubt , that we hope for nothing from the sense of justice which the Government pretends to ; and we cannot coneeal from you that we , on the othtr hand , anticipate much from the fears of a straggling Ministry , and an imbecile and dying faction . The least accident may cast the relentless gaolers at the mercy of the masses ; and whilst you
ask impatiently , " What , shall we do ? " we hare found it to be our duty to proclaim , on the evidence of a recent election , that the balance of the elective power is even now within your grayp . The Ch . irtist electors an row fight the battle of justice . Will they be firm nd faithful ? Will you be united and ready ? We loubt neither , we depend on both . The day of battle ipproacbei It -will be an eventful day , as the issue will decide thefate of the banished and the incarceratedthe fate of the Charter—the fate of our cause , of our liberties , and of our countrr .
Ths next paramount duty we have to perform is , to implore you , the labourers , to unite . We denounce none -, we appeal to all ; and earnestly do we coll upon you , in the nsmes of Frost , O'Connor , O'Brien—for the sake of all that is dear to principle and sacred to justice , unite , unite , unite ! organise , organise , organise ! We deplore th ? various divisions which hare weakened us and wtarleil us ; and , actuated by the sole hope of securing your political power , and thereby doing justice to si ! , -we particularly recornmen'' that all sectarian discussion may csase , and all party spirit be for ever still . Oh , think of the glorious cause we arc engaged in Sympathise with the prisoner , and be just to e ^ ch other , with the wives and the children , and be united to aid and protect them .
Think of your wrongs , and then only -will you form a brotherhood to secure your rights . Pass a y » te of oblivion on the past , and let usaon be the bright star to guide U 3 for the future . We have heard much of ¦ Church-Chartism , cf Tctto . tal-Chartism , and of Education-Chards : n ; we hold u to be the sacreil ri ^ ht of every min to -irorihip his Maker as he thinks best ; to rtgulatc his domestic habits as he nsay think proper ; and to a iopt any one scheme which he may think conducive ¦ to human happiness an : i social reformation . Why dispute with any ? Why n-jt invite all to enter the Great National Charter Asso < . i . a ' . ion ? Our end is not to secure power to party , or separate privileges to sects . Admit-Jl parties in religion , invite all denominations , and refuse no man who declares himself a Chartist ; no matter what may be his creed , his country or his casts . We hop 3 that our appeal will nut be in vain ; and having appealed to }\ . ur stcse of justice , let us now address your reason , and your judgment .
Our old and untiring enemies have asccnJed the Politicil Auction Bos , and , like unprinciplei salesmen , they have offered hollow and dcceptlTd warea to the mass of on ' ockers . You are not \ o be deceived with caiU , nor will your judgment be arrested through ycur excited hopes Three ministerial clap-traps have bu-n cast upon the waters of opinion , and after a few days they expect an abundant return . They shall be dec-uived . A reflection js proposed in the Timber Duties , which -trill admit foreign -nvod at a cheaper rate , instead of the colonial timber .
: \ j : < 1 ¦ j j i i i "What benefit can this measure effect for the poor lai boartr ? If the workman had the means of building a i cottage for himself , he would cot bj a gaintr of ten j fh" : l ; ii- - ; s on the while edifice ; because the reduction j ¦ will l-e only felt on tLiploads ; thereby throwing tne 1 -whole Knefit into ths pockets of the capitalists , thip ] . "bnildcrs , and large importers . It will not make a chair I or a ::. '/;_ one farthing cheaper , and the landlord , will j not Iowt 7 hia rents a single penny . Are you to tuiiport i an agitation for reducing the duties on timber for tha j sole purpose of increasing the profita of the capitalists i or middle clzs ? ? Forbid it , justice ; The samo fUliacy i -c-3 . 3 niade ev : d » nt on the reduction cf the duties on
! j j i ! lea . lb . tr . It beneStted the wholesale trader , but were j shoes acy cieaper ? All changes which apptar to be j beneficial to the wholesale dealers are ever fuund to be i reallv detrimental to the retail purchaser . Take as an ; exa'upls the second Wiiig bubble—tberednction of the j duties on Sugar . The movement will secure the votes I of the sugar refiners , and attract the large tradtrs . and ; -wholesale grocers . Again we ask what benefit will the ' , labourer receive ? The reduction amounts to Js . < d . the i cwt , ihzr&t' jTi } the purchaser of a pound of sugar would i ^ jave it 6-1 Oths of a furthicg cheaper than it is now . '; What coin hive \ re t- > express that ? None . What ! difference then - will it mak « to the handloom -weaver
f -who buys one ounce at 2 time ? Out upon the hypo-; . critical crew ! Djwr . with the d-fmuding ministry . ' j —Why did they expand 20 . , eoy of money in j emancipating the slaves ? Why did they then ask I us to pay dearer for sugar , so that the slaves might be I liberated ? Why do they now ask us to accept of ¦ cheaper sugar grown by the slaves of Cuba and the ' Br , 7 z : ii ? Are not these proofs that their policy is one j tissue of fraud , deception , a'Kl injustice ? I We are likewise destined to have an agitation created ; for a fixed dnty on corn . How ofttn must we explode ' the failacUs circulated under this head ? The most , ardant haters of the Corn Law fLow us that the quar' tern loaf -would sell twopenc-s cheaper after a total I repeal -, therefore the labourer ttLo earned one shilling
Government propose to have a fixed duty at eight shillings the quarter . Uader this fixed duty , the difference in the price of a quartsm loaf could bs consumed by an infant at one meal . Is it possible that reasoning men can be deluded by such nriakteruU frauds ? Ko ! We think higher of the reasoning workmen of this oppressed land , and therefore - we content ourselves with simply cautioning you as to the domestic policy of the Whigs . They tell us that labour -will become scarcer . Have they proved to us that wages will be lugher ? No ! because we are sensible that there are three powers in the hands of the manufacturers which will enable them undtr the present form of Government to destroy that scarcity , to lower ¦ wages , and throvs thousands out of employment First—The labourers out of employment , at the present time , are sufficient to supply ten times the existing demand .
Second—If insufficient , the railways would pour into the manufacturing districts the discharged agricultural labourers , and glut the market in a few weeks . Third—If both sources were exhausted , experience ¦ has proved to as that the infallible specific for' high j wages would be adopted , viz ., the introduction of new machinery . The end of the " whole boon" of cheap bread , we safely predict , would be the lowering of the wages of the highly taxed operatives of this country , so as to enable the capitalist to compete with the low taxed workmen cf the continent . Besides ail thes « reasons , what human object can be gained , in a moral or physical sense , by driving thousands off the land into the unhealthy and overheated factories . Finally , oar object being to legislate for the labouring population , we must take into consideration the wrongs of the agricultural as well as those of the manufacturing workmen , We despise all such Whig plasters : we want justice t r the working men of Great Britain ; and if we mean
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to have it we must contend for that political pewer being placed in your hands which will enable yoa , not to repeal the taxea on one or two articles , but on all articles of foreign growth and domestic consumption . The duties on timber and dyewoods amount to £ 1 , 668 , 584 , and on corn , grata , meal , and rice , to £ 1 , 131 , 075 ; on sugar and molasses , £ 1 , 826 , 917 . The Whigs propose to repeal part of these duties . Our objects are to abolish all , as well as the duties on tea , tobacco , coffee , wines , fruits , spices , hid « s and skins , wool , cotton , besides such provisions as bacon , hams , butter , eggs , &c 4 c . &c . ; in short , the whole host of taxes which press upon your industry , and diminish the supplies of life .
We advocate no half measure beneficial alone to the master . We extend our views of amelioration to the oppressed workmen and the starved labourers of the whole of Great Britain and Ireland . Will you support us ? will you listen to our advice ? will von pursue our directions t Your subtle and designing enemies also design to introduce manufactured goods , and thereby destroy the trades of cork-cutters , brass founders , potters , watch and clock makers , embroidery and needle workers , glass blowers , glovers and silk manufacturers , ( already starving , ) and a host of other trades , who will be overrun by the introduction of goods manufactured by the low-taxed operatives of the continent Do you nof Bee , therefore , the reason why the capitalists have erected mills and manufactories in Belgium and parts of France , and likewise , why they have vested their capital in speculations in Saxony , Switzerland , and Germany ?
Do yon not see the reason of inviting the operatives of this country into Holland , Prussia , and Belgium ? Their design is upon our home market , because we exclude manufactured goods coming from other nations after the following rate ;— Duty . Amt . of do . Brass manufactures 3 ft percent £ 1 , 710 Boxes of all kinds 30 do 2 , 769 Bugles Is . per 1 b . 2 , 140 Earthenware , china , &c . 15 to 20 per cent 5 . Clocks and watches 25 do . 9 , 628 Copper , manufactures of ... 30 do 731 Coiton do 10 made up 20 ... 6 , 584 Embroidery and needlework 30 8 , 578 Artificial flowers 25 5 , 299 Bottles , all sorts of glass SO to 120 ..... 27 , 304 Hair and coat's wool
manufactures 30 3 , 097 Leather gloves 20 to 40 18 , 505 Boots and shoes 30 6 , 095 Paper hangings 3 d . per lb . 1 sq . yd . 1 , 573 Silk goods 2 s . to 40 s . per cwt 247 , 361 Toys 20 per cent 3 , 793 Woollen manufactures ... 15 do . made up 20 25 , 113 The cloven foot has been shown , and poverty stares in the face of thousands of our operatives . Arise , awake , fellow countrymen , or ye are betrayed . Let the trades of this great nation vindicate their character , and come forward in the cause of justice and humanity . It is better at times to submit to a real despotism than to a Government of perfidious , treacherous , and pretended friends .
We are natural enemies to Wbiggism and Toryism , but being unable to destroy both factions , we advise you to destroy the one faction by making a tool of the other . We advise you to npset the Ministerial candidates on every occasion , todonbt their professions , and disbelieve their hustings promises . They even propose what they term a large extension of the Suffrage . Be not deluded again—stand by the Charter , accept of nothing less , and like the stern and indomitable Romans , rather bring your enemies nnder a despotism than be deluded with their treacherous professions . We advise yeu , after mature deliberation , First—To make returns to the Executive of the voters and the state of parties in each constituency in the empire , -with the vitw of consideriug the propriety of contesting an election and of appointing fit and proper persons to do so .
Second—To raise a fund by voluntary contributions , for election purposes , and to appoint three national treasurers . Third—Ts report the places where the members are returned , and where there is a likelihood of the opposite parties proposing to split the votes with our candidates . Fourth—To pledge all candidates to vote for the Charter , the release of all prisoners at home or abroad , repeal of the Poor Laws , the abolition of the Rural Police , and the removal of all grievances complained of . Fifth—To elect oernmlttees for the purpose of carry ing out the above objects , and to act as election committees in any place where a Chartist candidate is likely to be returned , or a Ministerial back upset .
Sixth—To pledge all Chartist candidates to sit and act as members upon a Convention which sh'ill meet in London , and be called tho Great Convention of the People ' s Deputies . Its constitution to be as follows : — The members to be the People ' s candidates , proposed aud elected by them to B ^ rve in Parliament ; the dt puties elected by large towns or counties ; and a deputation appointed by the General Executive ; all of whom hhall meet in London after the elections , to devise the best means of securing the People ' s Charter—of liberating the Political Prisoners—and of protecting or preserving the remaining rights of the trades and labourers of every description -within the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland .
( Cod save the People . ) P . M . M'Doi'ALL . T . R . Smart . John Skf / vioGTon . W . M . Mabtj . n . Thomas John Wall . William Moiigas . John Goodwin Barmby . Morgan Williams , Law hence Pitkethly . Matthew Cullen . rvffy ridley . John Rose . Mr . Rose and Mr . Martin moved and seconded the adoption of the address , Mr . Pitkethly asked if all aereed to the address ?
Dr . M'Douail said that all agreed to it . The Committee , however , were -willing to introduce such modifications as the Convention might suggest ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Martin sa . i £ that it ought to be issued at once . ( Htar , hear . ) Mr . Skevington said it could be left with the Executive to carry into effect the recommendations of the address . Thd address was adopted nem . con . Mr . Martin mov « d , aud Dr . M'Douail seconded , that it be forthwith printed . Carried . Dr . M'Douail stated that Carlisle had offered to split at the next election between Chartists and Tories . 1 Hear , hear . ) Mr . Smart * aid that operations were carrying on at Leicester to effect the same oWect ( Hear , hear . )
Dr . M'Douail said that it was generally believed that Government had resolved not to dissolve Parliament , and that they would resign . ( Hear , hear . ) It was pretty clear that Ministers would die game , and gloriously , as Lord Palmerston had said they would . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Pitkethly recommended the address to be kept bs . ck until the Con-vent 1 ' on terminated their sittings . Dr . MDouall . —It -will be adopted as the last act of the Convention . Mr . Morgan . —Step 3 should be taken to give it immediate publicity .
Dr . M'Douail then brought up the following report of the General Committee to the effect that Mr . Mason's letter to tho Convention was of such a nature as it could not be entertained by the Convention . That a deputation be appointed to wait upon the Marquis of Xoriaauby -with a view of ascertaining the probability of presenting the memorials to her Majesty , and that in case of a refusal to wait upon her Majesty ' s ministers to ascertain the probability of laying them before them , and that Mr . Pitketbly , Mr . Matthews , and
Mr . Cullen , be the deputation . That the treasurer be instructed to produce his accounts on Saturday morning with a view of ascertaining the real amount of funds in his hands , and also the expenditure that has taken place . That all letters on public business be handed over to the General Committee . That they advise the people of Andover to place themselves in communication with the London Committee , as the pressure of business will not permit the Convention to lay down a plan of organisation for that place . The above report vraa unanimously adopted .
Upon the motion of Dr . M'Douail , it was resolved that Messrs . Morgan , Williams , Pitkethly , and Williams be of the deputation to "wait on the Marquis of Normanby . Mr . Cullen waited upon Mr . Oswald , the member for Glasgew , who declined to accompany the deputation , but promised to give the memoriaU and the petition his consideration . Mr . Cullen informed the Honourable Member that he would let his constituents know tho reception he gave him , and his answer to his request that he should support the memorials . Mr . Cullen , in conclusion , banded in a petition from Falkitk , moat numerously and respectably signed . He also banded over to the treasurer four shillings , forwarded from Falkirk .
Ilr . Pitkethly said that their friends in Parliament had expressed a strong wish that the petitions should be as numerously signed as possible , in order that a powerful impression be made . ( Hear , hear . ) Such was the recommendation ef Messrs-Duncombe , Berkeley , and Fielden . Dr . ii'Douall said that Mr . Duncombe wished to know the exact number of prisoners in the different gaols , and also their names , and their state of health . After some discussion between Messrs . Pitkethly , If organ , and other gentlemen , respecting the situation of the prisoners , Mr . Pitke ' . hly Baid he had written to a large number of their friends to ascertain their present state , their treatment , and the effect that imprisonment had on their health . The other members resolved to write to other friends » f the imprisoned for fl »*» iH * F information . After which the Convention t ate .
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will , if necessary , prove . ( Lond cheers , and criei of " Bravo , bravo , " from the Chartists , with a few hisses from the Repealers . ) Mr . O'Connell has declared that If he obtains Repeal , that he will raise thirty Baronets to the House of Peers . They will be creatures of his own , and not as-they ought to be , selected by the common voice of the people . ( Hear , hear . ) Ihus Ireland was to be converted into a den of corruption . ( Hear , hear . ) Was it necessary that that selection should be made from Baronets ? ( Cries of "No , no , " " Yes , yes . " ) He also declared himself the supporter of Household Suffrage ' ( " . Oh , oh . ") If Mr . O'Connell acted upon the broad principle of Chartism , he would not require the aid of the aristocracy , nor would the people lcok for their support . — ( Hear , hear . ) But Mr . OConnell shall speak for
himself , and you can judge of his honesty . In his letter to Lord Charlemont , he says , " It Is quite manifest that a great many of the Peers -would be naturally desirous of having their sons and immediate connections in the House of Commons , and they could not expect a son or a relative to succeed with a popular constituency , if the ; Peer himself continued to oppose patriotic measures . The Irish House of Commons being a popular party , the Government must necessarily be such as would favonr the advancement of popular institutions . The consequence would be , that every Peer whe held out in opposition to such , a Government would be deprived of all participation in Government patronage ; he could not have the least hope of providing for any of his family through the Government unless he supported
the plans of such popular Government" ( Hisses and cheers . ) In the same letter , Mr . O'Connell says , " In 1782 , an Irish Parliament threw open the blessings of education to the Catholics of Ireland . " Whether the poor peasantry were benefited by the blessing may be judged of by the fact that they cannot even read ! ( Hear , hear . ) That blessing , no doubt , benefited the aristocracy and the middle classes , but hew could it have benefited the poer peasants , or how could they , oat of slxpence ^ day , pay for the instruction of their children ? ( Hear . ) In that letter Mr . O'Connelt boasts as follows : In 1792 the Irish Parliament conferred anether measure of emancipation upon the Catholics by opening the bar to them , and admitting Catholics as attornies . In 1797
an Irish Parliament passed another act abolishing a penal statute , and authorising Catholica as eligible to be placed on grand juries , and likewise conferring on them tho right of tha elective franchise . A great boon 'indeed , which merely admitted the son 8 of Roman Catholic gentlemen to be attornies , or rather created a new race of conjurors and roebew . wno bad not the slightest sympathy with the poor , am in their oppression were only surpassed by the rapacity of the priests , who , under the pretence of saving men ' s souls , robbed their pockets . ( Most awful confusion , accompanied by hisses , groans , cheers , and every dem onstration of popular fury and popular pleasure ) The noise continuing , Mr . Martin's voice could not be heard , when
Mr . O'Connell rose and said , you promised to hear him . A Voice—He has no religion . ( Hisses and cheers . ) Chairman—Pray do hear him . ( Increased confusion , amidst which a young man was most brutally dragged out of the room and hurled down stairs amidst cries of " murder . ") Mr . OConnell—Will you do me the injustice not to hear my accuser . Hold your tongues . Let him spin himself out , and then you will have an opportunity of laughing at him . ( Hisses and great cheering . ) Mr . Martin—When I spoke of the priests , ! meant the priests of the Established Church—those vagabond robbers of the poor . ( Immense cheering from the Chartists , with hissing and hooting from the Repealers , ) Chairman—Pray , do keep silence ; the sooner the aceusation is over , the sooner will Mr . O Connell have an opportunity of refuting it .
Mr . OConnell—Oh , no , no ; let no man suppose that there is an accusation against which I am anxious to defend myself . ( Cheers from the Repealers , and groans from the Chartists . ) Chairman—I was -wrong . I should have said that the sooner his opponent closed , the sooner Mr . O'Connell can defend himself . Mr . OConnell , jumping up in a rage , exclaimed—No , no ; let no man suppose that I have anything to defend myself againat ! ( Oh , oh , and immense laughter from the Chartists . ) Mr . Martin , in continuation , said Mr . O'Connell also opposed the Trades" Unions in their efforts to secure fair wages . Mr . O'Connell—I did no such thing . A Voice—Martin is a brave fellow . Mr . O'Gonnell—Hear him out . There is not a single wretched calumny that I will not demonstrate to be false and absurd . I will make short work of it
Mr . Martin . —I have another charge against Mr . O'Connell . In his letter to Lord Charlemont speaking of the outbreak of 1798 , he classes as murderers with Government spies of that day , the noble patriots and illustrious dead who poured forth their lives and blood in the struggle for freadoui . ( Oh , oh , shame , shame . ) Yes , he says that he holds in utter contempt such ruen as Lord Edward Fitzgerald and the Shearer's . ( Hisses and greans . ) Yes , that is the languago which he applies to men who saerficed their lives in their efforts to emancipate tha poor Irish from the yoke , the galling , grinding yoke of au heartless aristocracy . ( Heat , aud cries of " shame . ") Speaking of thorn , Mr . O'Connell says : — " As to 1788 , we leave the weal ; and wicked men who considered force aud sanguinary violence as part of their resources for ameliorating our institutions ,
and the equally more villanous and designing wretches who fomented the rebellion and made it explore in order that in tho defeat of the rebellious attempt they might bo able to extinguish the liberties of Ireland . We leave both these classes of miscreants to the contempt and indignation of mankind , and we equally with your Lordship , detest and deprecate the crimes of both . " Is thatlanjuagebecoming an Irishman ? Should such assertions escape his lips ? As wellasMr . O'Conntjll I am a paid agent . I am a member of that Convention which is now sitting iu London for the purpose of devising measures for the restoratisn of Frost , Williams , and Jones , and the liberation of all Chartist prisoners . ( Cheers . ) The Convention aro nut aware that I attend here . Nor could I do so with their approbation , as they have passed a resolution prohibiting . their members interfering , as members , in public meetings .
Mr . OConnell—Don't mind the Convention ; go on . Mr . Martin—Sol will , Mr . O'Connell . You stated that the Chartists who were convicted deserved punishment—( groans)—and that you -would lead over 50 » , * u 0 Irishmen to put down Englishmen . | Hisses , groans , &c . ) There ia not much philosophy , there is not much philanthropy in Mr . O'Connell ' d ixting with Melbourne , who apprised of , nay , who encouraged the Manchester slaughter . ( Hear , hear . ) There is not mucli patriotism in Mr . O'Connoll ' s cooperating -with Lord Pa . lnieraton , who could , if he liked , liberate Sligo from the two Tories -who now represented it ( Hear , hear . ) Mr .
©" Connell is wonderfully vexed beeauso the Chartists assisted in returning a Tory for Nottingham , I assure Mr . O'Connell that the Chartists detest the Tories as much as they do the Whigs , and that their reason for supporting them i s , that the Tories have promised to release the 400 Chartists now in prison . ( Hear , hear , and cheers 1 If the Whigs throw open those priscsu doora—if they act a merciful part—if they restore Frost , Williams , and Jones to the bosoms of their families , and if they release all political prisoners , the Chartists will suppsrt them , and will address the country in their behalf . ( Loudand continued cheering , and immense hissing . )
The room at this moment presented an awful appearance . The platform , the reserved seats , and every part of the place exhibited all the rage of party . In vain Mr . O'Connell exerted his authority to preserve order : irritated to the highest pitch , he stamped , exclaiming , " For God's sake , be quiet ; he is no friend of mine who makes the slightest noise . " ( Hisses , cheers , < fcc ) Order having been partially restored , Mr . M auxin , who remained quite tranquil amidst the storm , said—Gentlemen , I have but imperfectly discharged my duty . Mr . O'Connell has heard the charges
against him -, let him answer them . ( Hear , bear , he ^ r , and hissea . ) But before I sit down , I will read for him a report of the Select Committee on the Factories Regulation Act , and -will then leave Mr . O'Connell to reconcile hia conscience with the course he pursued respecting the poor , helpless , and defenceless factory children . ( Hear , hear , and cries of " Read , read . " Mr . Martin then read the fallowing extract from the report of the Factory Select Committee , which contained the evidence of a factory childwhich detailed the sufferings of one ef the -victims of that accursed syetem : —
" My name is Eliza Marshall . I live in Leeds . I was born in Doncaster . I am seventeen years old . My father is dead : he was guard of a coach . My mother came to Leeds when I was nine years old , to seek work for us . I got "work at Mr . Marshall ' s flax mill , in Water Lane . I left there because it was so dusty : it stuffed me so that I could scarcely speak : it affected my healthi I should not have lived long if I had not left The factory bell was a doleful sound to me . My father was dead , my mother was very poorly off , and my siBter and I did what we could for her . I have cried many an hour in the factory . I could scarcely walk . I could hardly get home . I was exceedingly fatigued at night Sometimes I had to be trailed home . I have an iron on my right leg . My knee is contracted . It was a great misery to me to work . I was straight before . My sister has carried me np to bed many a time . I hare been
an out-patient of the Leeds General Infirmary nearly twelve months , and this last winter ' I have been in the lanrmary six weeks . I was under Mr . Chorlty ; they put irons on to my legs , which , cost the Infirmary £ Z . I have gone with great difficulty to the mill , and could not tell anybody what I suffered . They could not believe me , I am sure , if I did . My mother was very unhappy to see me so dealt with ; she cried , but ahe ceuld not keep mo at home . I was obliged to go or else drop in the streets . I went to the mills as long aa I could ., At last I cried , and used to fall back in bed when they called me , so that they could not find in their heart to Bend me . I new lire with . my mother . Mr . Chorley has examined me thoroughly ; he says that It Is with long standing , and that the marrow is dried up quite out of the bone . He says , that -when the marrow gets dried out , it wQl never be formed again . "
One simultaneous burst of execration followed the reading of the above ; after which , Mr . Martin left the platform amidst the most enthusiastic cheering .
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Mr . O'Comnell then rose , and was received «<« . groans , hisses , yells , and cheers . He at fl » t atfenrobS ? to render Martin ridiculous by erossexamlnine hL ^ T h ° J hMh ' ' FaUin * ln that - ' - O'CounS said that he never had voted against the factory ^ n . dren .. . - ¦ -.. * u * A Voice—Who gave you Hie £ 1 , 000 ? You know yon got it ; we ean prove it . < A . general fight , durf » T which several Chartists were nneeremoniouslv wJi out of the room . ) , * « " » a Mr . O'CONNELL-Sir Thomas Potter declared thai » was a lie , the paper declared it a He , and he defied W « enemies to state the time or place when he was dsM H * S * $ »***«>» * e Refersand cries 5
, " We don't believe you , " from the Chartists ) nl voted for every BUI in favour of reduction of labont As to the education charge against him , the Parliamm " tary returns proved that in Ireland the poorer « tethoU «* who were educated weie three to one as comnaiM with the Protestante who enjoyed that blessing . ^ S that there were mdre Catholic children educated , j their own expence in Ireland than there were Protestant children so educated in England . ( Hear , hear . ) w would be glad to know , from Mr . Martin , which efthn Tories promised to let the Chartists out of prlian ( Great confusion , and cties of " hear , hear . ") ^^ , A VOICE—Don't answer him .
Mr . OCONNELL—Oh , wretched , doluded men » b « support the Tories who perpetrated the Manchester slaughter , and would again , if opportunity offered crimson their swords with human gore . ( Cheers and hisses . ) At the Nottingham election the Chartists son ported Walter , who designated Irishmen as besste " brutes , savages—a filthy ferocious crew , and thek priests as surpliced ruffians and ferocious tyrants . ~ ( Hisses , and cheers . ) Yes , Walter so designated their venerated and venerable clergy ; and that night tt& Orangeman was breaking out on Martin , as he was abont applying the same epithets to them , when he was m . minded of his error . ( H « Mfc hear , and cheers . ) Yes yes , he / Mr . O'ConneU ) would lead 5 JO . 00 O Irishmen to down the miscreant
put Chartists , if they threatened the torch or the dagger . ( Yells , hisses , and cheers . )!! Mr . OConnell then abused Feargns O'Connor , andsjM that it . was reported in the Tory press thathe ( O'ConneJh wanted' separation ; that was a lie . All that h » sought for . Ireland was , that she should enjoy thoss rights which she had before her connection with Em . land . In his devotion to his country he sacrificed j £ S . 3 OO a year which his profession returned him . Ha refused to be Master of the Rolls and to be Chief Baroa of the . Exchequer , both of which were offered to him bj the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland . ( Hear , hear . ) jjr O'Connell reiterated his oft-repeated argumen ts in favour of repeal , and concluded amidst groans , hisses . and cheers .
Mr . John Cleave presented himself in the front of the platform , and was received with loud cheers . He said-rFellow-countryraen , I will not , at this late hour ( twelve o ' clock ) detain you long . I have during my life attended many meetings , and I have heard mani strange sayings at those meetings , but this night ' s sayings and this night ' s doings have surpassed foj strangeness all that I have either htard or witneased before . ( Hear , hear , hear . ) For many years past I laboured with the Catholics in their endeavours foi emancipation ; and , above all , in the exertions that were made to ameliorate the condition of the Irish Roman Catholic working classes . ( Hear , hear . ) During those years , I never attended a meeting which gave me so much regret as the one of this night . ( Hear
hear , and a partial dissent by Repealers . ) I assure Mr O'Cpnnell that he will ere long deeply repent tha statements , he has made , and the language he haa adopted this night ( Hear , hear , hear . ) From the first moment that Mr . O'Connell landed in England from the first moment thai he Uok his seat in " the Old rotten House , " I , in common with other liberal English . Protestants , extended to him the right hand of fellow , ship . . Have we not a right to expect that he and his countrymen should in turn hold out to us the same tight hand of fellowship ? ( Hear , hear , cheers , and a few faiut hisses . ) When the rabid Tory press , aye , and
the equally rab ' ul Whig press denounced Mr . O'Connell and his followers as rebels , when they attempted tocry down repeal as rebellion , and when they reoinmended the question to be kept back by force , then Mr . O'Con . nell found friends and stanch supporters in the Eog * lishworkiug classes . ( Hear . ) Why then does heat this moment attempt to turn upon and vilify those men ? ( Hear . ) This is not the time for him to create new enemies . When the Whig and Tory press are armed to tho teeth against him , as a repealer . ( Hear and cbeera . ) When the only Catholic paper in London is I believe-opposed to the repeal of the union ( Hear . ) I appeal to Mr . OConnell if such is not the fact .
Mr . O . CONNELi—Yes . The Tablet is opposed to Repeal . ( H « u \) Mr . Cleave . —Well ; Mr . O'Connell is anxious to give the Whigs every support , and to retain them is office . ( Hear , hear , from Mr . O'Connell . ) - What did Lord Althorp say in the first reformed House of Commons ? He declared that sooner than submit to the Repeal of the Union , he would risk the dismember « ment of the British Empire . I tell Mr . OConnell that the Charcists are not endeavouring to create rebellien . ( No , no , no . ) They are only struggling fet their rights , and those rights simply consist in the power of self government—a power to which as Englishmen they ate entitled by the constitution of their country . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . O'Connell was one of the nr 8 t . men to draw up the Charter , and was the first man "to sign it . ( Loud cries of hear , hear . ) Mr . O Connell—I draughted it . ( Htjar , hear . )
Mr . CLE . vvE—Yes , Mr . O'Cunnell , and you were the first to sign it I hold in ray possession that signature of yours . ( Immense cheering . ) Mr . O'Connell—I acknowledge that I signed it . ( Increased cheering . ) Mr . Cleave—My delight was great when Mr OConnell ratified the Charter by affixing his signature to it . * Mr . OConnell well knows that until the British House of Commons be constituted upon the principles of tue Charter he will never effect Re peal , unless he does so by open rebellion , and with an awful sacrifice of hmuan life . ( Hear , hear , hear , hisses and cheers . ) A Voice—That ' s false .
Mr . Cleave . I regret that Mr . O'Counell h ^ s made this meeting an occasion for an attack upon the Chartists , and the working classes of England , and upon Feargus O'Connor . ( Hisses . ) His conduct to Sir . Martin was unbecoming—was unmanly and most ¦ u n-wise . ( Hear , hear . ) His conduct towards Feargna O'Connor—^ his countryman—a Protestant—a brothtr barrister , and formerly a member of the same House with him , was most cowardly . ( Immense rioting amongst" the Repealers , whose rage appeared to hare 110 bounds , in which they indulged by screeching , hooting , and hisses . As soon as they exhausted their
anger , the Chartists followed with repeated rounds of cheers . ) Yes , his conduct towards Ftargus O Connor was . most cowardly , was most unwise , and was un « Btatesuianlike in the extreme . ( Continued hisses aud rioting among the Repealers . ) I am afraid I must not call you , wl ;' o thus conduct yourselves so indecently , my friends . I repeat it , that Mr . O'Conr . ell ' s attack was most cowardly , especially when coupled with the bombastic threat of bringing over 500 , » 00 of his cooatrymen to put down the " miscreant Chartists , " as hecalled them , if they in any way assailed the throne of the " angelic creature" who sits upon it ( Laughterand hisses . )
Here an indescribable scene of confusion ensued ^ , amidst which we could only gather from Mr . Cleave ,, whose speaking at the moment was a mero dumb show , that he told Mr . O'Connell that he ought to get him ( Mr . Cleave ) a hearing , bo that the public might be made acquainted with his statements . He , however * pledged , himself that Mr . O'Conriell ' s attack upon thofamily of Feargus O'Connor , and upon Feargua O'Connor himself , would be repaid with interest . The'Chairman cried out , Gentlemen , do hear him . Mr . O'Connell—Be so good as to listen to him . Mr . Cleave , as soon as order was pirtially
restored * said , I am surprised that Mr . O'Cunnell should attack' an absent man—an imprisoned man , as his ( Mr . OConnell ' s ) countryman , Feargus O'Connor . It way cowardly . It was cruel . It was unbecoming * statesman ; ( Hear , hear . ) If the Irish unite with the Chartists the Chartists will unite with them , and that union is the only way by which Ireland will bo enabled to obtain Repeal , and obtain her political station amoiigst the nations . ( Cheers . ) Let not the Irish be deceived , aud let them know , once for all , that they will never obtain the repeal of the Union , so long as they retain renegade Whigs in office and in
power ., ( Tremendous cheers . ) Mr . OCon . nell—I am asked by Mr . Cleave if I will join- the physical-force Chartists , tho torch-and-theuagger men , and if I will follow the wen who broke out in open insurrection . ( " No , no , " and " Yes , yes . "} I tell Mr . Cleave that I will do no such thing . 'Hear , hear , and confusion . ) Justice must be done to every one . Lord Althorp did say that he would rather see * dismemberment of the empire than aecede to K'PeiL ' forced upon him by a faction . IHear , hear . ) But . M also said , that "if the universal Irish people desired a they were entitled to it ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Cleave complains of my attacking Feargus O'Cannor . Has hereaa hia papers , whieh catumniated me ? When I was exposed in Leeds to the assassin ' s dagger , had Feargai O'Connor the honesty to take my part in his prunj Oace for all , Itell you I will not join your miseraDW Chartist prejudices . ( Hisses . ) Hi . CLEA . VE—I am not asking you . ( A laugn . )
Mr . 'O'Cownell—You come forward to encourage rebellion and revolution . ( Great tumult , and Hisses . ) I seek Reform . You talk of the Chartists carryu * Rep « al . It would be better to suffer any peneeatUBi than adopt their plans of effecting Repeal . HisseM In concluaion , I say , Heaven preserve my country tvm Chartists . ( Tremendous hisses , and cheers . ) Mr . Cleave was loudly cheered during his ^^ after which the meeting broke up . A bodyguaraw Repealers escorted the " Liberator of Ireland ^ X ^ J patent safety cab , which conveyed him away aniu »» «*<«>>« : hissea . and irroans . It is said that several pw
sons were dangerously injured by the Irish w £ » porters , who were in attendance at the meeting to torn outxietarmU any one who even dared to *« mt WJ RepeaL - One young man from Maryletone is' ? ' ? " - riously indisposed from the savage treatment »« " * £ experienced . The Chartists are getting up a . « ° " ™ £ meeting at the Crown and Anchor , to whicu « " # intend inviting Dan and his myrmidons .
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REPEAL- * THE MISCREANT CHARTISTS " —DAN'S SIXPENNY MEETING . On Friday , the Hth inst , a general muster of the Repeslers of London was held at the Crown and Anchor , Strand . A silver sixpence afforded a pass-port for strangers , while Pan ' s retainers ware admitted on presenting ft card , or giving by sign , watchword , or otherwise proofs of their determination to " cat the painter . " This was called a public meeting . Notwithstanding the arrangements made by the Repealers to the contrary , a very large body of the Chartists contrived to get in , played their artillery very effectually during the night , and , as the sequel proved , marred the intended victory of the liberator .
A full hour having elapsed beyond the time for taking the chair , the assembly evinced strong symptoms of dissatisfaction . At length the ould Irish cry announced the arrival of the " lion" of the night , who made his appearance with his long sweeping tail , composed of "my boo John , " Mr . Dillon Browne , M . P ., Mr . Martin Blake ^ M . P ., Father M'Hales Pets , Mr O'Niel Daunt , secretary to Dan , a barrister named Mr . Stevens , and Mr . Timethy Duggin , late Bpirit dealer in Liverpool , and now " rint" collector in Manchester A Mr . Edward William O'Mahony , business , profession , or residence unknown , was called to the chair .
The Chairman having delivered himself of a long speech , in which he lauded to the skies the respectability the intelligence , and the influence of the meeting . ( A laugh ; cries of " hear , hear . " ) Ireland , he said , was a degraded province , and England , being ignorant of her wants , could not legislate for her . ( Hear , hear . ) The Ministry , whose existence depended upon the votes of Irish liberal members for their existence , should remember that no paltry concession would satisfy them . ( Hear , hear . ) A Mr . Hogan next presented himself . He said that
he was a working man , and would denounce the Chartists if they attempted to disturb the meeting . ( Imm derate laughter from the Chartists . ) If the Chartists raised a elamour , they were prepared to pat them down . ( Immense confusion , and hiues . ) The liberator unfurled the flag of Repeal—( laughter)—and would lead them to victory . ( Increased laughter ) Since the Repeal of the Union Ireland was robbed of £ 49 , 000 , 000 sterling ( Shouts of laughter , amidst which Mr . Hogan resumed his seat , apparently much pleased with the hit he made . )
A Mr . OBrien , a true Milesian in appearance and manner , announced himself as " an exile" from bis native land . ( Cries of " why don't you go home ?'') He said that the curses of their fathers , that tho curses of their mothers —( laughter )—and the curses of their sisters— 'Increased laughter )—would fall thick and heavy upon them if they did not repale the union . What cared Irishmen for physical-force Chartists ? ( "Ah ! ah [" groans , and cries of "bear , " and cheers . ) He knew something of physical-force Chartists . ( Hisses . ) They knew the Chartists—they defied the Chartists—( hissesi—for they knew that if the Chartists "were in power to-morrow they would act towards them as their ancestors did . ( Loud hisses from the Chartists , and then from the Repealers . ) Ireland never truated in England that she was not deceived . ( Hisses . ) They would obtain back their own Parliament by the . r own stalwart arms . ( Hisfces , and cries of "turn him out , " from the Chartists , and . cheers from tho Repealers . )
Mr . Dillon Browne said that , after much anxious consideration , he came to the conclusion that tha English legislature was incompetent and unwilling to legislate for Ireland . ( Hear , hear . ) A crisis had arrived of importance to England and Ireland , when the reins of power were about being resumed by men hostile to liberty—by the advocates of slavery , and who invariably opposed Mr . Whberforce in his struggle for the freedom of the unhappy beings who were in bondage . ( Hear , bear , and hisses . ) He hoped that Irishmen and Englishmen , sinking their petty
differences , would unite in driving Wellington and Ptel from office , and in hurling the Tories from power . ( Hisses , groans , and cheers . ) Those men were opposed to liberty , and their motto was persecution . ( No , no ; yea , yes ; hisses , and cries of hear . ) He attended the Chartist meeting at Palace-yard , but he separated himself from the Chartists , because he repudiated the means adopted by them for carrying the Charter . ( Hisses and cheers . ) if the Chartists conducted themselves like rational men they would be supported . ( Loud hisses , hooting , cheers , and stamping of feet . )
Chairman—Englishmen should listen to mm . He is inculcating the tiist principles of liberty . ( Oh , oh , hisses , and cheers , and great confusion . ) Mr . O Connell—Order , order , order . [ Here a Chartist attempted a remark , but he was put down with hisses , and a cry of turu him out ] Mr . Browne resumed . He followed his political leader , and adopted his new philosophy of moral force . Physical force was the doctrine of renegades and cowards . ( Hear , hear , and hisses . ) Mr . Browne was obliged to retire amidst the hisses of the Chartists . Mr . O'Qorman said that if they had their own Parliament back again in College Green—( a laugh )—they wiruld have moro beautiful streets —( increased laughter ) —and would erect a splendid testimonial to the Liberator . ( Hear , hear , and " Oh , oh . " ) A Scotchman named M'Lkod said that ke was a
convert to repeal , and would give it his support . The rank and title of this new accession to repeal were not known . Mr . O'Nfel Daunt said that the Union had been forced down their throats ; they should sooner feel at their sides for their swords than yield to it ( Cries of "Is not that physical force ? " ) The Union robbed them of £ 100 , 000 , » 00 sterling . The bigots of Exeter Hall—A Voico—What have we to do with them ? Mr . O'Connell—If you will not listen to reason , others will . ( Hisses and cheers . ) Mr . Daunt—The foul Church establishment—( immense confusion , accompanied by the cheers of the repealers , ami the hisses of the Chartists . ) Mr . Daunt endeavoured to get a hearing , but was ultimately compelled to sit down .
Mr . O'Con nell here introduced to the meeting Mr . Martin , a member of the Convention , who was hailtd with iinuR'nso cheering by the Chartists . Mr . O'Conndl called upou tho meeting to give him a fair hearing . Mr . Martin , who is the representative of the Birmingham Frost Committee , in the Convention now sitting in London , ascended the platform amidst loud and reiterated cheers . Order being partially restored , Mr . Mattiu said , 1 hope you will tak * s tke advice of Mr . O Cornell , and be silent , as I do not wish you to give me a single cheer , but that you should he : ir what I huve to say . ( Hear , hear , Ueai . ) When you hear me out , Mr . O Connell will then have an opportunity of
answering me . ( Hear , hear . ) I , with othur Cuarti 6 ts , regret that ill feeling exi&ts between Mr . O'Coimall and us . I am , like Mr . O'Connell , a Repealer—( cheers )—I say that Ireland has a right to a Parliament of her own , and that she ought not to be—as she is—a paltry province , for she never was conquered , but betrayed . ( Hear , hear . ) I am an Irishman ; and as devoted to Ireland as D . iniul O Cunuull says that ha himself is , and , as au Irishman , I oppose the Union which was foisted upon Ireland by fraud and by force . ( Hear . ) I also oppose the existence of a Church Establishment which , undtr tho name of Christian , has , and is still ready , to spill the blood of our fallow Christians . ( Hear , hear , and cheers . ) Some of the unwashed of St . Giles here created a disturbance , when
Mr . OConnell txcliuiutd will you not hold your tongue , you blockheads ? ( Cheers . ) Mr . Martin—I appear here this night from no factious motive ; I only como forward to confront Mr . O'Connell , who has declared himself the enemy-of the Chartists . ( Cheers , mixed with Repeal hisses . ) Yes , Mr . O'Counell , in his letter to Lord Cuarlemont , after alluding to us , says— " The Chartists , from whom we could expect no aid , but upon tho terlns with which neither you nor wts , my Lord , could comply . The Chartists are exclusionists of the worst kind . They would exclude from political power , not only what are called the upper—that is , the wealthier ranks of society , but oven the intelligence and independence of the middle classes . Bj assured , therefore , that , from
the great masses of popular support that your Lordship relies upon , you must deduct the entire body of Chartists , be they more or less . " Why , the majority of the working classes form tho basis of the fabrio of society . ( Hear , hear . ) The working men are the protectois of society , aud the frianda of Ireland , while tho middle classes and the aristocracy are the bitterest enemies of Ireland . ( Hisses , and loud cheers . ) If tbo working men had the pr ivilege of voting , they would support the laws that would benefit that unhappy country , Ireland . ( Hear , hear . ) It was well known that the aristocracy —that the shopkeepers , onA the middle classes , opposed those laws , and did all in their power to destroy the liberty and welfare of England and Ireland . ( Cheers aud cries of hear , hear . ) The electoral power
was in the hands of the middle classes , who returned to Parliament aristocrats , bankers , aud wealthy landlords . ( Hear , hear . ) The magistracy were composed of bankers—the sons of wealthy men , and of wealthy middle-classmen . ( Hear , hear . ) All these parties agree amongst themselves to oppress the Working classes . ' The members of Parliament say , take care of us and we shall take care of you , by giving you a share of the plunder , and enabling you to extract the greatest possible produco from the labour of those under you . ( Hear , hear . ) Again , writing to Lord Charlemont , Mr . 0 Connell says : — " That the body of Chartists are , to say tha least of it , neutral as regards justice to Ireland . " 1 deny that . On the contrary the body of the Chartists will unite with the Repealers , if the Repealers will unite with them . ( Hear , hear . ) It is said that we cannot placo confidence 1 b Mr . O'Connell , and that
his conduct shows that . ( Loud cries of hear , hear , hear , from the Chartists , and hisses from the Repealers . ; I fear that he cannot fee trusted . ( A volley of hisses from the Repealers , answered by Chartist cheers . ) I will adduce evidence that he cannot be trusted . iHere the Repealers lost all patience , and setting up a wild cry , endeavoured to come to an angry collision with the Chartists In the body of the room ; but the latter wisely declined the honour . ) It is said that he received money for his vote against the factory children , or at least for his conduct regarding that question . ( Hisses , and cries of " Hear , hear . " ; There is evidence to prove that he was called out of the House of Commons , and that in the lobby of the House he received £ l , 0 t 0 , the amount agreed tor . ( Loud cries of " Shame , shame , shame" ) I make that charge against Mr . O'Connell , which Linney , a working man and a Chartist , can and
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6 THE NORTHERN STAR . ;•
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Northern Star (1837-1852), May 22, 1841, page 6, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct856/page/6/
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