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      GT 3 S 35 ^ 3 riGGSZ , EXOV-PMSKT . fOmfJua .-z / me on ? s v * nJi pige . ) OIEKHiG C ? THT COMMISSION OF INQUIRY . : - Carmarthen , Wednesday Night , Oet . 25 . This most important Commission , appointed for ft fall 'inquiry into tbe causes of the discontent and outrages in Sonth Walesa was opened to-dajinthe ToWBsgall , tibe proceeding at which , as far-as thej - »* w * i 5 ie % n to the public , have excited very eonsaotaiSAft interest . At ten o ' clock , tbe Right Hon . T . F . Lewis and Mr . W . Cripps , accompanied by the Secretary to the Commission < Mr . G . K . Riekards ) , entered the Town Ha ll , sod took their feats on the beneh . Junaag the gentlemen present , I observed Colonel Trevor , M-P ., Viee-Iieutenant of the eennty , Mr . JD . Morris , M . P ., Dr . J * nes , Captain Phillips , Dr . Lawrenoe , the Mayor of Carmarthen , Dr . Bowen , Captain Soott , &e . -

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      The eoHrt being opened , the Right Hon . Chief Commissioner proeeeeed to read Her Majesty ' s Comttissien , andj having finished , said—Gentlemen , —Having had the honour and dnty to read Her Majesiy ' s Commission , it is perhaps Tight tosay for ourselves that we are deeply impressed with the difficulty and importance of tbe duties intrusted to as , and that it is only by relyingon the assistance i the gentlemen of the different counties " we must Tisit that we can hope to be able to discharge those duties , or to effect ihe objects of the Commission ; and , permit ne to say , thai nothing shall be wanting on onr parts to pnrsne diligently , and I hope effeotnally , the inquiry intrusted to ns ; and , in order that we may do so , we are ready to exert ourselves

      to toe utmost . In reading her Majesty ' s Commission , jpumnst be strnck with tie wording as to ¦ he definition of its objects , for although her Majesty ' s Government , who , I twlieve , and in fact know , in firmly resolved to meet with toe strong am of the law all attempts at disturbance , and to ds everything to suppress and pot down outrages by tin persevering exercise of power on ifcear parts j still at the same time they are most anxiously desirons to ascertain whether there be any real causes of grieranee existing , in order that by the powers of the Executive Government , or of Parliament , or both combined , a legislative remedy maybe effected , for which purpose » is ihat we are her * . Gentlemen , I think her Majesty ' s Government have done wisely

      in distinctly stating in the Commission that it is oar duty to inquire into the laws relating to turnpike roaas , beeaase , if I am not misinformed , the first outrages which took place in this country had ibr their object , by improper and unjustifiable means , to effect a remedy for alleged grievances with regard to turnpikes . I tbink , therefore , the Government itavs Tery properly directed onr attention first , to that object , in the hope that by proper inquiry a legislative remedy may be effected . Gentlemen , the Commission also contains other -and larger powers , pointing to otnex causes and circum stances which have led to acts of violence and outrage , and which open ont a large field for inquiry . I will sot allude to any of these causes individually

      lest by including some I might . give them an importance which they do not deserve , and lest 1 may be thought to have excluded others ihat some persons say think substantial grievances . I will , therefore , now only say , that we will iold ourselves open to receive every speeies of information from persons acquainted with the country , come from whom or where it may , in order that it may be shewn to us what have been the real causes of the disturbance * that have taken place in this country . Be that information what it may , our eves and ears shall be open to receive it , and itwill be subject to a * proper andT Jmpurual inquiry , in order that a remedy may be found ; l * t no person abut ha eyes to the important command issued by the Almighty

      Creator— " Thou shall not steaL" It men are not to steal , it isdear that there must be something belonging to another that is not to be taken . Thus even the Creator himself recognised a right in property 5 and iVis this foundation on which society is built—the object of all government being to secure to every individual a Ikb and undisturbed contronl * nd enjoyment of that property which by bis labour and industry—bis honest industry—he may be justly entitled to . It is in the nature of things that the prodaete required for the consumption of our ftllow-ereavures cannot be obtained if he who sows is sot secure to reap—if be who plants is not entitled to gather . Gentlemen , society itself , is bo consti tuted , that the industrious , thrifty , prudent , and

      careful people are by the will " of God tolerably secure of their reward ; whilst , on the other hand , improvidence , violence , wastefulness , and acts or outride as certainly bring distress and sisery , with all . the ' ruinous consequences ihat fallow is their train , on those persons wao are unwise enough to perpetrate them . Let me only add , that with a most sincere and ^ earnest wish to accomplish the objects which her M » jesty B Ministers had in view in advising her Majesty to issue this commission , weshall v with as little delay as potable , apply ourselves to the different i » ints of thu iEquiry , and I feel assured , gentlemen , by your presence , here to-day , that you will render us every assistance in your power , that the iaouiry may be as full a one as possible .

      Colonel Trxvob asked the Commissioner 11 it would be convenient to fiiem to state the coarse they intended pursuing ! Mr . P- Lvwis replied , thai they should now pursue the inquiry here , which would probably © eenpy several days . He , of course , eonld not say what time the inquiry would take at each place ; tut they would take Carmarthenshire first , Pembrokeshire next , and they eonld not now say what county would follow . - - ^ Diey were desirousto throw themselves open to the whole country , and invited communication from all classes of the people . He feared that they could not hold all their proceedings in open court , though ; for Vmsrffj the greater the publicity which could be grrai to their proceedings , the more satisfactory it weald be to him ; but at the same time he knew that there were witnesses who would be embarrassed if ihey knew that an audience was present , or that instantl

      their words ^ wsre being taken < i © wn y on their ujfiiranWby short-band writers ; Btell , as far as tiBKjPOSsibly could , every publicity should be ziicSp * fne Bxgbt Hon . Gentleman then , addressing > jin >«» if to the reporters present , said he wished , through their means , to state to the whole of South "Wales their anxiety to receive the fullest information from all classes of the community , and at the nine time to say ^ that they bad no instructions from the Government but what were contained in » he Commission . He wonld further state , that if any persons TnafrVg communications' wished them to be confidential , and marked them so , they might rely mpon their being so used , . * Tbe Commissioners then retired into the grand jury-room , and were occupied tbe remainder of the -day in a preliminary examination of Mr . Staeey , clerk to the Main Trast-, and the examination of various books and papers , with a view to show the working of the trust .

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      THE WELSH COMMISSION

      SO THE EDITOS TTB IH 35 TIKES , Ba ,-Observing in your columns to-day a report f the opening of the Boyal Commission to inquire into the grievances of the people of Wales , and fioocmg the fair promises of tbe Commissioner , I beg you will permit me to express a hope that on this occasion the Government will sot disappoint the expectations of the sufferers , * nd add to the power of their opressors . I grant 1 am very Buspidons of these commissions I have observed that they are generally used to build up a theory—to afford an excuse for establish ? ing a predetermined measure . Such was ihe'Com-Jrriaricm oa the Poor Laws .

      It was determined that the right of the poor to rapport should be denied , bo a commission was issued to make out a case , that the poor were so idle , abandoned , and dissolute that they were really unworthy of support . Sometimes a commission is used apparently for one object , but really for another . Ih that case , tbe evidence that supports the object apparently intended is burked , while that which supports the real intention is published .

      SJuch . was tbe ease with the late commission issued to inquire into the grievances of the bandiorai weavers . r ^^ t ™*? T ; ®* apparent object was the relief & % tefe asaJwssna £ S On that inquiry Mr . Mnggeridge . the Assistant Commisdoner , came to Huddersneld . He there found that Mr- Stocks and myself enjoyed fee eon-Adenee of the hand-loom weavers .

      ^ vS *? ?^ »« . Publicly , and afterwards told ma , that I had « rrea very important evidenee ; bntthat iaeonseguenoe of the then excited state of the population , tnere were certain questions that he had refrained from asking me . " He added , " If von would sot object to a private examination , I should ke glad to have yeur opinion oa those subjecta . " I agreed , on the expreaj condition that be would furnishiMwith a perfe « t copy ofay - ^ whnrtjtn . H »» re « sedto dow . 1 * mi also agreed to by too , Hoi "if ay evidence

      vasset pmblkbadin the report of ihe Commjasionen , Jj 3 » oaldb # » tin ) er ^ to publiahit . " - On these express conditions I submitted to a pri-Tate examination that extended through several dayi . When we parted , Mr . Muggeridge thanked me for file valuable eommonicaiioa , " and promised to send me * correct copy of tie whole in fooror ivedays . , " , I applied josbj tunes for lie promised copy , and was often " assured that 1 Ehonld have it . " At last Mr . Muggeridge candidl y told me " he could not lei me have it , betanse , having considered my evi-

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      en : a ^ of the greatest iaportaneo , b- dcescl it hi > ] ^ -J . _ f » r ? rardit tcthsGcv-i ^ a ^ Q ' fr ~ w : ° : .. iT tJ . tB , bsforc he ecnld hay ? r . eopiefi , u : d ^ i . ot . he could not tttek . cithsr * ht origfcsl a : l v : p .. " I have since applied to Lord John Rasxsll , ihe Marquis of NotBanby , Knd Sir James Graham ( the successive Home Secretaries ) , and have not been able to obtain the fn ] $ } menl of Mr . Mnggeridge ' s promise . J ^ ot one word of that evidence is in the report ; Mr . Stocks was never examined , althongh , is my hoaring , Mr . Muggridge promised to take that gentleman ' s txsmmation . On that qcestion no person's opinion eoold be more important . Nor is there a word m the report of ihe long and most important

      written argument of Mr . William Atkinson , who enjoyed the confidence of the Spitalfields weavers , * » v V * ff 1 * * ! requested by the Secretiry of u » e Commissioners to send his information in writing . How many other friends of the hand-loom weavers , who were favourable to protection , were thus entirely excladed from the report , I know not . But tiiis T know , there is no want of anti-Corn Law evidenoe . Nay , if tbe anti-Corn Law League had written the Report of the Commissioperp , it could scarcely have been more favourable to Free Trade . Knowing , as I do , the disgust with which that report was received by the hand-loom weavers , the

      cause 3 of whose grievance it was pretended to inquire into with a view to their removal , and observing that Mr . Frankland Lewis is just as candid and plausible u was Mr . Muggeridge , I may surely be permitted to warn the Conservative Government against stumbling on the rock of their predecessors , lest they male matters worse , by disgusting sad disappointing tbe aggrieved , and strengthening the hands of tke greedy and remorseless , the heartless and grinding oppressors of the poor . Pardon tbe liberty I have taken , and allow ae to subscribe myself , Sir , y « ur most obliged servant , Queen ' s Prison , Oct . 28 . RichaBD OaSTUOB .

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      BEPEAL ASSOCIATION . The usual weekly meetlag of this raodatlon vu held to-day in tbe Conciliation-hall , which was tolerably well filled is all parts . Jt vu rerj confiOently stated on Saturday , and very genejally believed , that Mr . Sbiel , Mr . Wj « e , and otker leadisg stemben of the Iri&Ii Whig-Badlai party . wooJd aeod is tbelr adberioo at ^ TederaUiW to tbe aMocialioa to-day , but the rauoar proved to be unfounded . At ooe . o ' clock Mr . Mobny , ex-JuBtke of the Peace , having been : called to the chair .

      Mr . O'CojfABLL read a letter from Or . Slattery , Boman Catholic Arcbbiabop of Caahe ) , eucloaing hu Babacription , and requesting to- be enrolled a cumber , which iraa accordingly done . They hadiOrefcly two of their four arebbuhopa declared Kepealen , and be «» proud to rank Michael of Cosbel beside John wf Toam —{ hear , hear , " and cheers ) . So thing bat tbe critical state of the country at present , aad tb « attempts roeeatly made to do away with the rights « f petition by what he thought undue means , co » W have called hia Teaerable Friend from hii dignified retirement—( bear , hear ) . It ni no small preof ikaX their motives an-l intentions were pure , and their mode of carrying them ont peaceable , when they had Dr . Siattery joining them —( hear ) .

      The Hon . Gentleman In handing in £ 100 from Quebec tov / fc occasion to px&iae the wisdom of th « British eo « ndla there . He wished to give Lord Stanley tbe fo 31 meed of praise For the coarse he had rdapted to . varO * the Amerkan colonies , by giving them a legislature and full ontroul over their owa affairs— ( bear , hear ) . Canada had forfeited much < . > f her claic-P , by having had the folly to turn ont in armed rebellion to assert her right . Ireland also dohaed the privilege » f self-legislation , but would never refcel ; and be proproclaimed it then , on the authority of that association , with which the people were thoroughly identified , that

      there vas not the least danger of an outbreak— ( cheers ) In aay event , there should be no rebellion in Ireland ; and there would then be presented ths strong contrast , that rebellious Canada had free insUtmtiona and a local government , and that Ireland , which did not rebel , « B * refused an Inquiry into her grie-vaaces— ( beai ) . 11 wacaBscrted In some journals that Canada took no in . tereat in the Bepeal movement : the bill of exchange which he then handed in contained one hundred answers to that unfounded statement —( " hear , bear , " and laughter ) . The Quebec Bepealers were enrolled ts membeiaand UBOdates ; and a voteef tkaxks vaa ordered to bo transmitted to their aecretery .

      Mr . J . O'CouwEii aaid he bad two pieces of good news to communicate—the one was , that the revision for the city of Kilkenny had closed , and that the Repealers ha /* a majority of 1 ST over the Tories , Whigs , and jakouas Papists ; and the other , that the sum of £ 31 hau been transmitted to tbe Aaaodatioa from the town i-i Curlow —( cheen ) . Mr . Marx 0 'CallaOHjl . n then came forward , and moved that the name of Mr . Joha Smith , attorney-atlaw , and one of the law agenta for tbe corporation , bt eraaec from the books of tha Association . "He understood that the remaining tenants 00 the lands of Paris town and Danistown were removed on Monday last—( hear , hear ) . Mr . O * CaHaghan eonplained'tbat Lit letters , in reply to Mr . Smith , were sot inserted in t e Fntma . 1 J < namaL Dr . 6 &AT rose to order . Mr . O ' Callaohak said he was not out ot order—{ confusion 1 .

      Mr . O'Coxvsll—The rale is every public assembly it , the very moment a gentleman is called to order , he sits down until he knows bow it is he is out of order-Chew ) . Mr . OTUxxaghah resumed his seat Dr . Gra"I complained that the subject under consideration had been re-opened , when it was understood to have been finally dosed . Mr . OCai . laqhah—What I complain of is , that though the Freeman published Mr . Smith ' s letter * calling me a liar , and other offensive names , my letters in reply were omitted from that journal—( cries of " order *) .

      Mr . O'Cokkbll rose to call Mr . O'Callaghan to order . His opinion had been appealed to in tbU matter—he jrave It . IILt . O'Cillagtan was at liberty to aeqnitoee in VbtA AecisVm or noj . He found he did not do so—( bear , bean . Tie question was cue between the public and Mr . Joan Smith , and not a bye-battle between Mr O C&naghsn and the frtemcot ' t Journal—( hear , heax ) . If Mr . O'CaUaghan wished to Impeach that journal , let him give notice of it ; but the qaesUon before them now was one between the public and Mr . Smith—( hear , bear ) . Tbe motion was put from the chair and carried , bnt there were several dissentients .

      Mr . Bius , who hid originally brought forward the question of extermination against Mr . Smytii , said that be had received a great number of communications from various parts of Ireland , which would shew an appalling sJBoontof cruelty on the part of landlords , and be thought the best way of ending It was to expose the perpetrators to public indignation . Dr . Geat suggested to Mr . Balfe the propriety of referring the documents he had reeeived to a Committee of the Association . Mr . Baub « &ld be would willing l y do so , aa <^ he made mention ef tbe fasts relating to extermination in order that the landlords might be deterred fr m forcing ths tenants off tbe land , as had been the effect in Bomf previous cases of a public allnsloB In the Auotiarfon .

      Mr . O"C 0 SSKLL agreed with Mr . Balfe that the instrument te be used against tyrannical landlords was public opinion . iCbeers . ) Althongh not over-dispoeed to give the present Government any undue praise , he was not inclined to anticipate , aa Dr . Gray had done , the course to bs taken by the Commissinn . He was disposed to give the present Government its due for having issued it ; and this advantage , at all events , would be derived Iron It , that landlords would see that the question of tenure was about to be inquired into . Sir R . Peel and Lord Stanley had declared there must be some alteration in that tenure—( hear)—and he thought it would he unwise to throw cold water on the exertions of tbe Commissioners . ( Cheers . )

      Mr . J . O'Conheu , gave notice of a motion to the effect , that he would next Monday week brine under the consideration of the Association tbe financial arrangements , of tha two countries , with a view to show that they could be arranged in such a manner as to relieve Ireland from ^ unjust burdens , . without detriment to England . Amongst the various subscriptions handed in by the Messrs . OtJonnell , Dr . Gray , and others , weroj £ 30 , from Dr . Browne , the Boman Catholic Bishop of Galway , being the subscriptions of himself , Mr . Y . Blake , M . P . J Mr . Bodkin , M . P . ; and ethers j £ 5 from Mr . H . Grattan , M . P ., his second subscription this year—( cheers )— £ 25 from the parish priest of Wlcklow , £ 5 of which was collected yesterday at the chapel gate—( hear , bear )— £ 52 from Glasgow— ( cheers )— J 50 from Armagh , £ 1 from the Palmentpn victims of tyranny , tot attending th * Danny brook meeting ; £ 9 9 s . from Newburgh , New York , and £ 30 from the North ( per MtlVaffy ) .

      Mr . O'COXRIXL rose again , and said he had next to read a eommsnieation be had received from that excellent and exemplary man , Joseph Sturge . ( Hear , hear . ) He did sot believe that there lived a being with a pnrei mind or finer spirit ; then was a generous entbu-¦ iasa about him that gave him the very chivalry of humanity . ( Hen , bear . ) He had been sneered at as an inefielent politieUa ; bat he was an honest , sealous ,. » dp « rwv « rinf politician . Y ( Heai , bear . ) He was a ti » headof ajwrty , wbkb tt » Chartists shewed themselves ttntt foe p « bUs liberty by not ha-rtog joined . fHear , feeK . ) Th > WBnlratlmi from Mr . Storge w . sCbOowi ^—

      " » O rHJI IEIIH ftEFBAl ASSOCIAIIOW . A note of mine addressed t » your chairman , acoorapa » yingaiwoiBtton passed ata meeting at Birmingham ; was rwd by bin . « the meeting of your association on tte ltth instant , in whleh I expressed the opinion , Sd ^^^ 18 ^ o ' P ^ ' -lingtJward ; v _ r Th ! Lop ! f «**«»«* - « wnta have confirmed ; ^ A , " *^ 161 " , * &T owble state of feeling available , the people of BBgland should have a clear and full fcxjlanatioB el the objects of the Repeal

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      A ^ ocUdcnj iv-. d & disposition tboW& bf » evir < ced cflu . V . 'ir . r . b . ; crt ? s . ? or . t cvary r « . e&nnre tha' It c ^ l « . " ¦ - ' .- & rc-IIatc oQtcfe" good wit . a' ^ oca' tbo poopls ¦ 1 ' - ^ . S jzzo of tho beBt friacdo tf Ireltcd fc " -thfc 3 zzf-r . 3 K rr . -. ^ ct fc -STSJiB of p «* dcc irfonnatica ss t 3 -. list is rought for by the Repealera . If it is Intended to make Ireland a separate and independent nation , ft cannot be expected that there ever will exist In EDgland any general eo-opentfon in favour ef such * measare . She is herself suffering from the same oligarchy which infllctc so much misery oh the sister klnjgdom ; and the united efforts of the whole British people an required to terminate I ts ^ oppressions .

      "But if it be clearly and distinctly understood that Ireland only seeks to have tbe control of her own aS&in , leaving the decistoc of til queatloa ; involving the interest of the united kindom to the Imperial Legial&tnre ; the object is so jnst in principle and « o needful in its application to Ireland , that 1 am per euaded It would , if properly placed before the Eng li sh peoplo , soon conmmnd their support . " The recent despotic proceed logs « f the Goverment ; tho wise andjprompt . measures taken ky the leaders of the Repeal movement to preserve peape ; and their onlvertal observance by the people of Ireland , under drcumstaDces of exasperation that might have led to the most fearfal coB « eqaeBces , all conspire to eaaoange * general disposition on thisi . sMe the Channel to a more favourable consideration of ttoir just claims .

      " As « ne who ardently desrres full justice to Ireland , it I s my earnest desire and hope that nothing may be said or done that might tend to excite a national feeling of hostility te wards England ; and allow me to express my deep regret that it sbofrld besUted each a feeling exists in the minds of Englishmen towards Ireland . It is true , we have not evinced that sympathy for tbe wrongs of Ireland which we ought to have done ; but the people are sot inimical to eacb other ; and they have one strong bond of union , —that of Buffering from the same oppressors . The peaceful and constitutional manner in which the people of Ireland am seeking to

      obtain justice has jubiJj excited great adafoation j . inA it is my conviction that if the same course far firmly maintained it will eventually unite the wise and good in all parts of the United Kingdom in combined efforts , that will , under the blessing of Divlce Providence , fee crowned with success ; sod while securing to > Ireland all that the most ardent of her friends who-are ranged mnder the banner of Repeal can desire , will mere firmly consolidate her with England in oil that constitutes a great empire . " Yery respectfully , " Joseph Sotjmje . " BfraiBflhBm , 27 th of rl » e 10 th month . "

      Mr . O Con NELi , having : testified his respect for the efe&raettr of Mr . Sturge , prooeeded to express tbe rieUg'ht be fail at finding , from that gentleman ' s letter , that tbe peaceable demeanour of the Man people was mnWngan lmpre&rion on the English miml—( cheers ) . He aHsrfert to tbe neglect of GoTerBment , hi not having Issued the CSlontarf proclamation till it was merely by an oceKtent that » - massacre did not take place , and then referred to the- constant efforts of the Orange and Tory press to , irritate the Irish people because they bad submitted" to tbafeserdse of authority , The Hon . Gentleman reiterated his oft-repeated abuse of The Timet , whioh C"nld . he said , find no more fruitful topics to urge on the fiaglkh to overthrow the Whigs , because they wer * friend * of Ireland , than the vilest abudeof the people

      of Ireland and of their priesthood . Mr . Sturge bad > spokocof English sympathy ; bat he ( Mr . O'ConneU >! would sek , had any « f the gnat towns in England , ! save Birmingham and Preston , made any demonstra * ! tion foribem ? Had London done ao t Had Man-1 Chester , er Liverpool , or Leeds done bo ? ( Cheero . y Let not Mr . Stnrge blame the people of Ireland because thay judged of Englishmen only by their acts , because they could not place coafid « nce in them . Be ( Mr . 0 » 6 roBr . elI ) believed the Bnglish people acted more from Ignorance tbaii design ; bnt it was bis complaint that they would not take tbe trouble of being ; riffhtly informed as to tbe reaL state of the people j 9 Ireland .. If there were ne other topics to urge lo favour of Repeal , the fact would be sufficient , that i

      tbe governing people were radically ignorant and ? eareleas- of the state of tbe coaotry governed . A « -j U > separation he repudiated it , bat be wished to > prevent tbe postibillty of it by getting Repeal . Tbere- ! should b * bo rebellion in Ireland , ao civil war , ors what wo » worse , a servile war ; a war from cottageto cottage , from town to town—{ cheers ) . The -Hon . Gentleman proceeded at great length to meet the Ob- jections of Mr . Sturge , and to show there was no fear of separatfen . ; He spoke of America , and the offer of reconciliation made , when too bite , by the British-Government to the insurgents la that country , as V warning to Government , snd advised Mr . Storgo to romemberit ( Hear . ) Hethcsgttt It would be politio in the Inglish statesmen to ask Ireland what she

      wanted , and be ( Mr . OConneH ) irosld answer , t !» at she merely wanted the loinagemeiit of her own affalrs > and did aot desire to take anytbimg from the Crown prorugati reft He called on Mr . Starge for an explanstioa of what imperial questions were . If he meant the management of the colonies , he ( Mr . CConnell ) would tell him that the colonies wer * tku > flefs of the Crows , and the absolutism of the Crows right was only faallfied by charter—the dependencies , which included I 00 , wm , eeo of people , were the property of the Crows , and all Ireland would ask was liberty . to trade with rbem —( hear ) . Ireland was biff enough for them . Sbe was all thay required . They would take nothing less — ( load heering for some minvtes ) . As to war , if Mr . Srarg » thought they might wish not to goto war wh « n

      Engl&ad did—that was . a Royal prerogative , and the only thing they eonld do was to vote against the sap . plies ; > e for one would be glad of it , as It diminished the chances of unjust war , and if tbere , were just same of war there was no fear of the Irish people being backward in supporting it—( loud cheers ) . The Hon Gentleman referred to Portugal and other countries friendly to Ireland , wliicb it would be wise policy in Inland to reton going to war with , on tbe sole groand thatSngisBfl wished it . Again , making peace was no imperial question ; it was an act of tbe monarob . They wanted a protective ; not an invasive Parliament As to tho army and navy , that would be a mere question ot length of pone . Tbe number of men paid by England should belong to England , and those paid by Ireland

      ahonM be Ireland ' s . Thus treaties , dependencies , colonies , tbe making of war and peace , and army and navy , could sot be considered imperial { aestion * . Tito [ Ion . Gentleman thus ridiculed the Federalist party , as not knowing what thny meant , and derided the support likely to be bad from the north or Ulster men . which , he said , would be but small indeed ; for on former : occatfous there had been no subaUntlsilty about them . As to religions questions , there was no fear of difference . Mr . ftodkln ' s letter proved it The Hon . Gentleman then reiterated his thousand times repeated allegation of Roman Citholic toleration , bnt if any fear

      were harboured of it , he wtmld , he said , be willing to place on the Irish Parliament a restriction already existing in the American Legislature—namely , that it shouli be inwmpetsnt to them to place any restrictive right or to interfere with any one ' s conscience—( loud cheers ) . Mr . O Connell then contrasted the treatment of rebellions Canada and peaceable Ireland . He wonld not give up one particle of Irish interest , but he would maintain the Crown prerogatives . After a lengthened address de omnibus rebut in his usual style , and urged by his usual arguments , the Hon . Gentleman concluded , amid loud applause , by moving the adoption of the following resolutions : —

      " 1 , —That the object and purport of the Repeal of the Union consists in tbe Parliament of Ireland having the entire . legislative control of affairs of the Irish nation . " 2 . —That the basis of the Repeal of the Union conaiBts , and shall consist , in the perpetual connexion with Great Britain , through tbe medium of their common Sovereign , Quean Tictoria , and her heirs and

      successors . " 3 . —That another basis of the Repeal of the Union shall be perfect equality of civil rights and franchises of every description between all Christian sects and persuasions whatever , and that no power shall be committed or intrusted to ths Irish Parliament to make any law derogatory to the civil rights er franchise * of any individual or class by reason of his or their creed or religious persuasion . " 4 . That the foregoing resolutions be transmitted to Mr . Joseph Stnrge , in reply to his communication , and that be be requested to specify what the questions u » volving the interest of the United Kingdom exclusively are , other than those which come within the range of the Royal prerogative . "

      In answer to some observations of Ur . Gordon , who advocated the rights of the Roman Catholic clergy to glebe-houses and lands , ( the gentleman , b 3 it remembered , having been within the month aa active member of tbe Conservative bodies of Dublin , and a quomlam Orangeman ) , " Mr . <¦> 'Connell expressed his disapprobation of state establishments , for , at the present day , the efforts ot every state were directed to suppress true religious feeling In the church ; still , he would be in favour of a plan for obtaining glebes for the Catholic clergy , to whom a perpetual right might easily be given by a slight alteration in the existing laws . Bat these glebes must be purchased by Catholics themselves , and In no other way . ( Cheers . )

      Mr . Steele and the Rev . Mr . Lowbt , a dismissed and degraded Independent minister , having addressed the meeting , who were not very attentive , particularly to the last gentleman , who detained them more than half an hour ,: Mr . O'Cohnell announced the Repeal rent to be £ 2 , 143 IDs . ( Load cheers . ) This made upwards of £ 3 , 000 received from Saturday to Saturday . Mr . Comth , ex-justice of the peace , having taken the chair , the meeting adjourned to « ne o ' clock on Monday next '

      MOSS « OViBKltKKT r « , B * JlIUTIOK » . Tbe correspondent of the Time * of Saturday , says : "All parties are at a loss to comprehend the meaning of the continued preparations , military and otherwise , which everywhere meet the eye . Troopi axe almost daily landed , and , notwithstanding the inclemency of the season , hurried to distant parts of the country , after a few hours' halt in Dublin . Decayed forts are taken possession of by an extra force of Artillery from Woolwich j and a ricketty mansion , Aldborough-house , is at this moment garrisoned by several companies of tke 24 th Begiment . The whole of the 1 st Royal Dragoons landed this morning , and were scarcely seated in their saddles when they received instant orders to march

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      to Ma-ribriaFe , the barreoSs « l , * re having oeon 1 oP ic .. fcA ' - . l-- defonisaSaao p--3 itioc f >? tbh ' act tweaty . forjf hott > , t ~ canseqaenoG of titer 4 tfc iitsu : docs naricfc proosadei to Lonsford . Furtitcr reir . fo-ceffirut " . & 7 e expected I » y ' ^ tstj tide , , ; . « d- thr * ic e . 'ten ? yreetc ? tls-i country , or atleast three-feurtos of it , wH ' be is a etate of military occupation . And all this , and more in perspective , after it had been , apparently , at least shown , thaft the ordinary powers of the taw , without the aid of a single additional bayonet , were quite stringent enough to repress the agitation , not only in its present form , bat in whatever guise it might assume hereafter .

      THE EUMOURED ABANDONMENT OF TltE PROSECUTIONS . In the Times ot Monday , its correspondent writes , — I learn this evening ( Friday ) , on the very beat authority , that there la not the shadow of a foundation tor the reported abandonment bo industriously , and for an obvious purpose , circulated yesterday by the partisans of the accused ; and furthermore , that the trials will take place on an early day in the ensuing term , as all idea of traversiiig in prox . has been put an end to by tbe discovery that the question was raised and overruled on a former prosecution of Mr . OConnell ( luring the Attomey-Ganeralsbfs of Mr . Blaekbarne , the present Master of the Rolls .

      ABHT MOTE VENT * . ' It was not until a late hour this ( Friday ) evening , that the second division of the 24 th Regiment arrived here from Scottsnd . They disembarked at the Northwall long after dark , and marched into Ship-street barracks . ' ¦ . ' .. TheLefnsterExpress says— "On Tuesday , the headqtnrters of the 16 tb Regiment , wider the command of Liewtenant Colonel Campbell , arrived tA Birr from Newbridge te be quartered , and several companies pre-Tiously from Tullamore , &c

      An engineer officer was here last week , and it is said laid ob > ground where the 1 stabling i » Co be built for two troops of cavalry . These is sofflcient accommodation for the men ; in fact , for several hundred mere than occupy owe barracks at present . On Monday the company of t * e 15 th Regiment on detatebment at Banaghsr baited here en touie to Teraplemore , whew they Joined bead-quarters . The fortifications , erected under the superintendence of Mr . J . 9 ymnioads , Keyal Engineer Department , having been finished , were inspected on Friday , the 2 » th instant , by CoL Lewis , Cbmrnasding Engineer of Ireland , and Captain James , commanding the district , both of whom expressed themselves hifbly gratified wi to the very admirable wanner in whUball tbe works had been executed .

      SpeakiDg ot the present rather mysterlom * preparat ions , the Soj * Examiner observes— " This renewed energy la not confined to tbe metropolis . It is- exhibiting its mysterious symptoms In other quarters-also We learn from limerick , for instance , that the military authorities- ate bard at worM fitting tip a barrack in p , store on tte Steam-packet- quay . The Plate steamer was landing furniture for it on Wednesday and yesterday , and a large house in Henry-street was taken on Wedneatray for officers' qnarters . The Comat war steamer is to be stationed o 3 > Barrington ' s Pier during the winter j and the General , Lord Downes , has a sergeant's gaard mounted at-his house in Perysquare every day I Here in Corto the fortifications have been completed . In the rural ) districts the same symptom * of action are apparent . What is their meaning ? . What is their object ? These are tbe questions on every tongue . "

      THB SIGNAL WIRES * The Cork Examintr says : — " On Thursday evening ? fires were lighted on the bill-tops and mountains in tire counties of Qalway , Clare , Limerick , Kerry , Tipperaryv and a portion of tbe-county of Cork . They spread with * electric rapidity , so much so that in the course of t * o < hears and a half > he mysterioos baacon was telegraphed from the extreme west to the extreme south of Ireland . In some of tite towns in the interior , crowd * assembled , tar-barrets were lighted , and popular rejoicings were made , whilst the people ohee ed for the Queen , O . Connell , and the Parliament in Collegegreen . The Leinster E * prm gives the following additional information repeating tbe mysterious signal fires of th » night of the lyth ulV

      "A person standlag on any of the heights in the neighbourhood of Shinrone , on last Friday night , wouldbshold tke magnificent spectacle of the Ttpperary . hllla biasing forth almosb simultaneously , a * if all at one © ignited by the magic-. toroh of the fabled Hire King . The shouts and exaltations | bf the pesaatry could be beard swelling on tha gale , like the murmuring of manywaters . ' ' ; And lagaln : — " On the night of the 10 th Instant , insL large fires burst fertb in a simultaneous blaaa npon all the hills ground the country , from Byrc-couit and Meelick up to Banagher , and thence to Partonstown , and along the r&sge of hills towetd * Bonisekane . Large bodies of the peasantry were aawmbled in many places , and patrolled through the conntry , canjing torch-lighte , filling ; with feu and tenor the wbUhHspoaee and peaseableby their savage yeU » ahd shoots of brutal exaltation . In several ct the abovemwUioned places many of the people thought that a . ' ganeral

      rising ! had taken place , and sought refuge in the fields and ditches ; otbarsbetook themaelve * for protection to the adjoining towns . Tbere ia no uea in concealing the fact that the gonernl body of the peasantry are ripe for revolt , and that both priests and Mr . Qt'Connell will find it a difficult teak to restrain them from deeds of turbulence . The . lower orders of tbe Sapeol squadron seem , now that tkey cannot have their monster meetings , to have adopted the rebel mode of telegraphing their feelings and sentiments through the mediom of * baJe * ox * signal' ares .- These simultaneous fires , whioh , on the night in question , extended not only along the places abovementloned , but along the hills and mountains of Cork , limerick , Kerry , Citre , and Tlpparary , require the earliest attention of the Qavorement , more especially as they have been , each and all , attended by manes of the peasantry , carrying with them torchlights , and hallooing and yelling like so many Incarnate fiends . "

      The correspondent of the Tim *> of Tuesday has the following account » f

      1 MORE FREPAT 1 QK 8 . The military reinforcements under orders for service in Ireland have , it Is supposed here , been retarded in their arrival by the inclement Btate "f the weather , and the consequent danger of exposing the troopB to its vicissitudes . Nevertheless , preparations for their reception are being nude with all possible dispatch ; and the authorities are , it is said , in treaty for the purchase of houses and other buildings capable of affording accommodation for the large force which will be concentrated here before many days elapse . The extensive concerns known ea the Linen Jlall , which was many years Ago the grand emporium for the sale of the then staple manufacture of the country , are , it appears , to

      be converted into military barracks , instead of Home ' s Hotel , on Usher ' a-quay , which was found on inspection to be wholly unBultert to the purpose . la addition to the SootB Grays , the 17 th Lancers have received orders te hold themselves in immediate readiness to march for Liverpool , there to embark for Dublin . Tast quantities of ammunition are pouring into the country . Eight cartloads , consisting of 260 , 060 ball cartridges , arrived in Limerick on Friday , and similar supplies , in greater or leaser amount , have been famished to the other ; garrison towns in the provinces . In the mean time , the perplexing question of " What does it all mean ? " remains a riddle , the solution of which must be left to time .

      The Times » f Wednesday adds the following -. —The Company ot Royal Sappers and Miners , whicjk has been fur some months stationed in Ship-street barracks , is placed under order to proceed by detachments to lielfasv , Athlone , and Cork , for the purpose of assisting bt the fortifications in progress of repair at Ihoae places . The Pilot of Monday evening states , that in addition to the Lmon Hail , the Paving Boari-houBc la Marystreet is to be re-converted into barracks , and thai the business of the Board is to be transact'd at the Customhouse . . THE "KINT . " The O'Conncll Rent Committee announce that Sunday , the 19 th of November , will be the grand tribute day ; and ad 1 , that " existing oircDPistaDces of commftn 4 ing interest" require that there should bo no delay in paying up . "

      ACTIVE OPPOSITION TO POOE LAWS . Toe Limerick Chronicle reports the following serious collision between tbe people and the authorities in an attempt to enforce the provisions of the " admirable " remedy for the evils of Ireland : — " Tuesday morning , at ten o'clock , a half-troop of the 10 th Hussars , Lieutenant Lord G . A . Beauclerk , and two companies of the « lstt under Major MLeod left this garrison , in conformity witha requisition from the emq ^ ciVmugistiatesof the Union , by order of Government , to protect the poor-rate collector of Castle Connell district , in the service of processes for the rate due in that district , and which he bad been violently threatened for demanding . The military force was accompanied by Mr T . P . Yokes wad Mr . W . 8 . Tracy , police

      maalstrates , and joined by tbe following resident magietrates of the above district : — The Earl of Clare , Lieutenant-General Sir B Ronrke , and Messrs . W . Howly , JT . Browne , J . Wulpiate , and J . White . Thirty of the constabulary force proceeded , in advance of the military , along with the collector and ptooesB-swver . On approaching LUnagry the object of their mission wet anticipated , and the air was rent Jby loud sbonte from the men , and the wild screams of women and children as they ran through the fields skirting the road . ; This boisterous salutation was followed by a volley of stones and clods flung at the police , while several country fellows rushed forward with pitchforks

      and spades to oppose ( heir : advanc * . This violent demonstration oeconed on a byroad ,-fadag the ofiees of Mr . William H . Oabbett . Caherllne . The cavalry , having ' oceived the word , pushed on at a gallep to the aid ti" tho poUoe , fallowed by the infantry , when the assailants tell off , but ' not before seven prisoners were made , and some hard knocks were exchanged with the constabulary . The process-server then delivered his summons In each case , and where the door was fastened against him , inserted the noilce under the door , or through the window of each house . Mr . Gabbett-uaine forward , offering to pay tae rate due , bat the Magistrates thought it beat te follow up the regular service of the court . One of Che rioters at

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      LlTjaxry , sho led ] ths crowd , exclaimed , wJrf » oc oattt , i \ . & not . -, single pfo&sss for poor-rate should bi l ¦? : tLyse , < . nd d ; wd | tiiem to do so . This EKti 'r ^ j QUbsequaitl / liberated , The anthoritles tb ? . a sr- > o&ssA to n piece e » lk > d Abane , wi ' . a hard CUra and Sir R . Bourke . when , processes weft served without opposition on the defaulter * . At Ballyvara they were again opposed , bnt not violently , and the notices were made good . The weather throughout

      this unpleasant reconnolsanee w « cold , dreary , and wet , the rain falling heavily on thr troops , and the roads very deep . ] We are happy to add , tbnfc no serions casnalty ocenrred , though ono policeman , riding by the side of Mr . Voltes , received the blow of a atone " large aa a cannon shot , which broke the brass shoulder scale . Tbe country people cheered the military on their retain , bat kept groaning at ihe ; police—wby or wherefore probably they could not telL It vrtui six O ' clock last evening when the troops regained their barracks , perfectly saturated with rain .

      TUB XAKQUIS OF WATERFORD . The following statement appears in ihe Limerick Chronicle :- — I " Lord Waterford has expressed hia determination never to bant the county Tipperary again , bat in order that tow resoive aheaid aot impair the future operations of the club , with a truly generous and sport ing feeling , the noble poor has signified to the committee bis intention of presenting fifty-two couple ( two packs ) of dogs , and five horses from his own stud , beside an annual subscription of jgiod to the boat . It appears it was not one or two , but a dosvm threatening letters ] his Lordship has received , about persons in his employment , which was sufficient to disgust him with ; the eoootry , if the stabling had never been fired . " 1

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      PoxTSKiEs . —A public meeting of Colliers was held at Land-end on Tuesday , the 2 % b of October , a working man in > toe chair ; Mr . Scott spoke at considerable length on tbe necessity of the CWliers ot that locality uniting witt » their ! brother Colliess in other parts of the district fe > the | cause of right against might . The Chairman neat Introduced Mr . Jbbm Lomax , who also addressed the meeting . An appeal- was made , on behalf of tbe . CumbeflBjnri brethren , which 1 we believe will not soon be forgott Ofganizition eeem » tobe the order of tbe day here . At die d'ise of the meeting several took cards of membsmhip . ON WBDHB 9 &MY , the S 5 tb , a paWic meeting of Colliers was [ i « lrt at Norton , Mr . Joseph Ball in the chair . Mr . Scott delivered an abl » address . * Mr , Lomaxgave a brief J but spirited addsess . A vote , of thanks being given to the Chairman , tS » meeting then broke op . <

      On Thursday ; the 26 th , a publio meeting of Miners was held at the Nelson ' s Arms , GroldemHUl , when Mr . Scott was called to the chair , who , after a few remarks , introduced" Mr . Ball , who has wrought in the pits above thirty years . He addressed tite meeting in a very sensible and failing manner . Mr . Itosmx delivered a lengthened addreasv shewing up the tyranny of the Coal Kings in grandistyle . KiNGSLBT . —A meeting of Colliers wa » held at the Plough Inn , on Friday , the 27 Ch alt , vr tsn Mr . Johr . Tepper was unanim « asly called to tbe chair . Messrs . Scott and Lomax both addressed the meeting , at the conclusion of whichian appeal was made fbr the Cumberland brethren . At vote of thanks being given to the chairman , the meeting bmke up highly deSahted .

      Cheadle . —On Saturday last , a publi * meeting ot the Colliers of this pjace was held , Mr . Vans . Bishop in the chair , who , after a few appropriate remarks , introduced Mr . Scott to the meeting , who-gave them a detail of the origin of-the strike in Cumbesiund , and the inhumanity of the masters towards t * ie tnea ; llkewiss the abominable " test act" of Paile andhi » coadjutors . He sat down loudly oaeered . Mr- Louaa showed the power of the Colliers when brought to bea » on society . After a lengthy address be sat down amidst ; loud clearing . Fifteen members were added to our list .

      Staffordshire!—Mr . J . Wilde tha authorised agent of the Miners' Association , held a * meeting at Dudley Port , at the Jolly Collier . There , was a large attendance . Mr . Wilde read an address off the Colliers ot Yorkshire , and explained tbe objects ot the Association . At tha dosejof the lecture a larga number enrolled their namesi On the 30 th of Octet ~« , Mr . J . Wilde gave a lecture , in the Hen aid CMckens , in Tlpton . Tho night ! Wf 9 very unfavourable ; but there was a large meeting ! At tha conclaaiea of the lecture many enrolled fielr names .

      A Mkeiino ov Co-al MiNkbs was hoWen at Mr . James Broailbent's , CJollhrs' Arms , on the Dakinfield side of Stalybridge . Messrs . Harrisoa , Newton , Price , and Others , attended . Mr . Harrison was eUled to the chair . Mr . jftrice delivered a short speech on th » sufferings of the goal Miners , showed the glorious prospects now before them , and exhorted his hearers to come forward , and- enrol themselves ia the Miners ' Union . Twenty-five immediately responded to- the appeal , and took | out their cards of membership . More wonld have done the same , but the agents were short of cards . The meeting eeysraSed , highly gratified with tbe nisbt ' s proceedings .

      CLAYCROSS . —Tlia-Colliera of this place express their grateful thanks to the Editor of the Northern Star tor bis notice of them , jit having brought to their assistance Mr . Fleming , ttie lecturer . A meeting was held on the 29 th ulfc , with the bast results . Mr . Fleming also addressed a meeting at Winsfield on Saturday night , when about fifty members were enrolled . To thb Editor op the Nobtherk Star . — Afraid that my report of the Ddlegate Meeting at Hurst Brook , In connection with the Miners'Association , would take up too much space i laav Saturday ' s Star , I condensed the items of monies paid by the St . Helen's District into one total ; bat a » I am aware that the men like t » see the amount paid by each lodge inserted In theft ** , I send you the following

      enumeration , which I hv , pe you will have the kindness to insert in you * next : No . 1 Lodge , £ 3 8 » * 1 j No . 2 , £ 114 s 5 d ; No . 3 . £ 1 An 6 d ; No . 4 . £ 2 10 a 2 d ; No . 5 , £ 1 6 « lOd ; No- 6 , £ 1 »* M 1 Na 7 18 s 8 d ; No . 8 . £ 1 Is ; No . 9 . 10 s B . i ; No . 1 O . £ 4 il 4 s Ji ; No . 11 . £ 1 18 » 6 d ; No . 12 , 18 * » d ; No . 1 . 3 . £ 114 « 6 d ; No . 14 . £ 1 7 id . Received from Marsh-green , j £ 4 15 s ; overplus of a journey to Cumberland ; Mr . J . Garner . 9 i 81 . Total £ 29 5 * id . A publio meeting of j Miners will take p !* ce at Choriey Moor , on Monday , the « th of Novem (>« , chair to be taken at eleven o ' clock in the forenoon . Vhe meeting will be addressed by ] wveral of the authorised agents of the society . A delegate meeting will' be holderi immediately after , at the King's Arms , Choriey . It is

      expected that each delegate will come prepared with plans for the subdivision ' of tta county into districts , each district to contain a certain num *••« . of mines , anil nlsohrlhga return of members '' - ' far as they can be ascertained . —A public meeting of miners will be holden at Moorside , near Bury , on Monday , Nov . Sth , chair to te taken at ten o ' clock in the forenc an . I'he meeting will be addressed by Mr . William i ) ixon anci Mr . John Aaty . ( There will bo no delegate meeting at Bury ) . ^ Mr . Jofin bladine , Secretary to tbe Whitehaven Miners is requested to make known his exact address , so that the Lancashire Secretary may communicate with him . Tbe Lancashire Secretary ' s address is as follows : Wa Qrocott , No . 2 , Cross-atreet-east , Bank Top , Manchester , i

      All Sadge Bank . —On Monday , ' "• ct 30 th , a meeting of Collier * was announced to be held here , at two o'clock in the afternoon , in the open air ; bat tbe day was so wet , they had to adjonrn to a public-house , where Mr . Scott read end explained tbe rules of the Miners' AssjciationJ Mr . Lomax afterwards addressed the meeting at considerable length . A good number of members were enrolled . Mr . Lomrx held a meeting the same day at Newton Heath , and enrolled a considerable number of members . Newcastle . —The National Conference of xhe adlners' association of great britain , and I belanj > . —The delegates assembled in the Ridleycourt Long Boon , Qroat-maiket , on Monday , the 30 th alt At ten o ' clock } proceedings commenced . The

      delegates then present were required to produce their credentials . After which Mr . Ttiomas Wa > inabaw was unanimously elected to the chair ; Mr , John Tulip to the vice chair ; and Mr . Joseph Manderson as door keeper , to receive the credentials from such delegates as might arrive after the commencement of the Bitting of the Conference , j The Chairman then briefly opened the proceedings by expressing a hope that each delegate would be fairly heard . The General Secretary then called over the names of eacb Colliery , co as to ascertain tho names of the delegates and the number of members on each Colliery . j ( We believe there would be 150 delegates present ); A delegate moved "That

      each delegate entrusted with resolntieus by bis constituents to be submitted at this Conference ba required to hand them to the General Secretary , and that a Committee of six be now appointed to arrange the erder in which they are to be brought forward . " Agreed to ; and the committee were appointed and retired to investigate tbe different resolutions , and to draw up a programme of the order in whioh they were to be entertained . In the meantime it was agreed that the case of Mr . Bagnell , of Thornly , be investigated in the intsrira , which , after [ having heard the evidence on both sides , it was finally decided : " that our brother Bsgnell is dear of all the charges laid against him . " The delegates then adjourned for dinner , hiing one o ' clock .

      Afteknoon SiTTiNfl . —At two o ' clock , Mr Waktnabaw resumed the chair , aud Mr . Tnlip the vice-chair . The Secretary read the minutes of the morning's sitting , which were confirmed . The committee entered , and handed the programme ( which they had prepared of tha bnsiness to be bronght before the Conference ) to the chairman , who deelarei tfie first subject to be entertained was the Seghill resolution respecting Mr . B . Watson . Afterall the evidence bad been heard on both sides , it was ultimately agreed that Mr . Watson be continued as lecturer . Snd . The Cassop case , which was agreed to be held in abeyance for the present 3 rd . The West Hulywell case , which was likewise deferred until the first general delegate meeting for ' the counties of Northumberland and Durham . 4 tb . That the different items of expsnditure in the last balance sheet be explained by the General Secretary , The Se « cretary read each Item , and expressed his readiness to give all necessary explanation , which was done to the satisfaction of aU concerned . It was then announced

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      that lectures en tho necessity cf rc « n ; r ? I- ; K * "i ^ m ' a Sli j /^ iij p ' . ^ e , V . KKr c ' el' -d" :, ' 13 ; ¦' '• ¦ TLoraion a ^ C M .-. 5 > t- ' . 3 J ; ^ C : C l ' . i ^ -, . joataed at isclf-pxifc H ?^ -J . M t ± ro o'c : - ; i Taj . _ 2 j morcfRg . j T * E 8 DAT MORNING'S SITTING , 9 O ' CLcCK . —Me . Thomas Wakimhaw in the chair , Mr , John Tnlip ia tn » vice-chair . Mr . Manderaon Poxter , Uie secretary raad the minutes of the previous sittings , which woe conSrmed . A delegate proposed that the last two or three items of the Dr . side of the last balsnee sheet be considered this morning , when it woo isgciad' tLat Mr . Hunter be sAlowed to retain the som advanced to h ! tn ; and it was ) Bltimately agreed that the ba' ^ C 9 * i ; 08 t

      now read aii * explained Is highly satisfactory . It wts likewise agretA that all cases between ; masters and raea . In the counties of Northumberland sod Durham , ht submitted to Ms . Roberts , in lien of the Executive , ta formerly arranged Ttat a committee ef five ba now appointed to draw oat a lecturer's plan . Mesanr , Mycroft , of Auckland district ; Taylor , of Yorkshire ; Stoves , of West Moor ; Diniells , of Scotland ; Barker , of Cumberland ; Berry , of Staffordshire ; Stepbenson , of North Staffordshire ; Thomason , of SoathStaffordshire ; and Davlson , of Wales , were appointed : the committee . A lengthy discussion took pface respecting tbe salary of tbe future Executive , w ' len upon tha business of the society . Several sums wese suggested .

      but it was finally deferred , until it was decided whether the fature Executive i » to be stationary or perambulating . The next resolution in the prog » muie was read from the chair , viz ., "That our code ol rules be revised , and that they be * enrolled according to Act of Parliament . " It was agreed that the words Miners of all denominations be subatitttted for coaf , lead , and iron itone Miners , as it is the desire of the society to admit all Miners into its : ranks ; asd that in the lOtfc article ef the said rnles , thei word-. Dutrid Treasurer be substituted for General Treasurer , being deeme * saoat advisable that each difli . net bold its own fundsv and remit a proportionate share to the general fond , tm aeeewity may require . At oim o ' clock the Conferwicfi » adjourned an hoar for dinner . '

      < TvESDiv Afternoon Skb-bwic—At two o'rfbdf | basiaess wi s resamed . The Seoratary read the > mbnttoi ' ot the previous sitting which were confirmed . . A very leogtby discussion then took place respecting the plao » at which the next National Conference should be held , wbeait was agreed that each dslegata ' a vote be estimated in proportion to tbe number of his constitaentsk Mr . Roberta , who had jast entered the hall , was several times-csUed upon to state hU opinions upon the Bubjeefc andes discassion . He at last acceded to the numerous * urgent requests , and wrr greeted with thuuderiEg applause . As" soon as it had subsided be expressed bi »> gratifloation at the importance thejaitacbed to the subject befota them ; he considered It > ooe of vital imjwjtauce ,. aaA exhorted them to weigh tha matter well before

      they came to a vote on the su ^ jeoti - that as the Executrve were the servants of the Conference , It was , ta his opinion , highly proper first to Ox the place of tb * Conference ; and that wouldbe a rolethereby to elwt their B £ e «» tive . Mr . R . advised them , above all thing * , to choose men in whom they placed , great confldenoa * as the meiabers of the Executiv « , Mmach of the prosperity oft the whole society dependediopon the sincerity and ability " of thase whom they might select ; and having eologiflt d tL . delegates for the basiness-Iike manner In which they conductel their dissueBions , and the lalent b « bad seen displayed since he entered the hall , he sat down amidst deafening cheers ^ A Delegate then proposed' " That any delegate giving a greater number of payable members than he actually renresented , abould 1

      be fined 2 s . 6 d . upan detection . * Agreed to . Newcastle , Parham , and Manchester wereceach proposed a * the place for tbe next Conference to- be held . Th # General Secretary having taken down-tte numbers that vote for * aeh place , added them ofi together , audit was declared that Manchester had the majority of votes ; consequeatly the next Conference willitr held in Manchester , the time to be afterwards decided upon . Ths number of votes declared for Nei 7 c ? -tle , 5 , 316 : for Durham , ft , 780 ; and ior Manchester , 9 , 944 . The Conferenos adjourned at six o'clock notil nine o ' clcA on Wednesday morning . It was announced that a lecture would be given in the Ridley ) Court Room , on the Inconsistency of tile Pitnen ' a Bond , at teven o ' clock that evening ( Tuesday ) .

      Mb . Autvy addressed the colliers . of Altham , near Padiham , at the Walton's Arms Inn , on Wednesday , the 18 tb of October ; oa Thursaay , tha 19 th , tha col * Hers of Baxenden , near Accrington ; . © a Friday , the 20 tb , that colliers of Catlow-lane Heatl » near Rochdale ; on Saturday , the 21 st , the colliers of Hanging Chattel ; on Wednesday , the 25 th , the collleraot Bury , at tL ; e Bird in Hand ; on Friday , the 27 th , the millers of Balm Moor , near Rochiale , and enrolled a great many members . ; . On Saturday , the 28 th , tiie « olliers of Littlaborougb , and enrolled forty-two iaembors ; and oa Monday , the 30 th , the colliers of Sh » Lvejf Moor , n « ar OKlham , and enrolled fifty-two members .

      Aibdbbe . —Messrs . Emoleton aad Cloaghaa v * every where meeting with good . success , in the Airdrle and Holjtown district A delegate nieeting was held at Alrdrie , on Friday last , Mr . W ^ Clougban in ^ ia chair ; at the close of the proceedings * it was proposed antl agraatl to , that £ 2 sterling be sent to the Executivo at Newcastle , as pah payment , for ^ asds and tales . At tlie tlelsgate meeting , on the weefc trrevioos , it wa » agreed ( hat no sectional attempt be ^ made to better their cunditioa , till ail be organisad . Go Saturday , U » 28 th ait ^ a well attended delegate meeting ; took place in Holy town , when a similar resolutku *^ was ceased .

      DawaAB . —A publio meeting was held at tha Black Ball Inn , Danham , on Monday last , Mr . Jno . Toti Traa unanimously oalled to- the chair . f £ bo following ; resolution was mov * i > - ** That we , the Miness of this district in public meeting assembled , do hereby declare that our w * gea at the present time are not sufficient to maintain as and our famines . " This resolution was supported by Mr . William Holdgate . The second resolution was , — 11 That we , the Miners of this district consider it t » be our duty to immediately boeome members of the-Miners' Association of Great Britain and Ireland . " Both resolutions were carried unanimously ; Tn » following resolution was then pat and carried : — M That the best thanks of this meeting be given tothe Editor of the Northern Star for his advocacy of oar rights . "

      Mb . John Toft leoturedat tho foUaynng places test week with good saccess : — -tfonday , Ossett Common ; Tuesday , Ossett Street Side ; Wednesday , Dawgreen ; Thursday , Heekmondwike ; and Friday Batley . Messes . Holdgate and Tofx will lectore next week at the following , places ' . —Monday , Batley ; and Tuesday , Heokmoutwike . A delegate meeting will beheld November llth , 1843 , &t thehouse ol Mr . Samuel Rowbottom . Unicorn Inn . Adwalton .

      Local Markets

      LOCAL MARKETS

      Leeds Cokn Market , Oct . 31—The arrivals o » Grain to this day ' s market are larger than last week * There has been a very slow trade for wheat , and pricoa from Is . to 2 s . per quarter lower for New ; Old has been heavy sale . Fine heavy Barley no alteration , but all other descriptions are rather lower . Uat 3 and Baans have fully supported tot week ' s prices . THE AVE&AGR PBICES OF WHEAT , FOB THE WEEK ENDING OCT . 31 , 1843 . Wheat . Barley . Oats . Rye . Beans . Pea Qrs . Qrs . Qra . Qrs . Qrs . Q » , 4171 2024 568 468 40 £ e . d . £ b . d . £ s . d . £ s . d . £ e . d . £ e . d . 2 14 3 * 1 14 5 1 . 0 3 } 0 00 1 11 7 i 114

      Mai / ton Corn Market , Octobbb 28 . —We had only an indifferent supply of offers of Grain to this day ' s market , the trade for which was in fair demand at the following rates : —Wheat , 543 . to 62 s . per qnarter ; Barley , 30 s . to 32 s . per quarter ; ° ats , 9 d . to lOd . per stone . Bradford Mabkbt , THtmsDAT , Nov . % —Wool —The demand for all kinds of Combing and Clothier ' s Wools continues steady with a full supply , and prices rather looking upwards . Tarns continue in steady request and firm in price . Piecet—The operations of to-day are not more cheering ; and it is quite evident that the Manufacturers will be com .-pehed to curtail their production , to save them from loss , as the current pneesare below the rates at which they replace their stocks .

      ltiCHMON © Corn Market , Satitbdat , Oct . 28 . — We had a good supply of Grain in our market today . —Wheat from 6 a 3 d to 7 s 6 d . Oats 2 i 8 dto 3 s 6 d . Barley 4 s 3 d to 4 s 6 d . Beans 4 s 9 d to 53 3 d per bushel .

      WAKEFIELD GOBN MARKET * Fbidat , JNov . 3 . —There is a good arrival o wheat , but only small of other articles . * 'The Wheat trade has been slow , yeta fair extent of business has been done , at a reduction of Is . per quarter upon 8 uoh samples as are not in goad condUion ; the better qualities nearly support their value . Barlej is heavy sale , bat the supply being only email , the prices of last week were maintained ^ ' All other articles ot the trade remain without any materiel alteration .

      Leeds -.—Printed For Tbe Proprietor, F E A Bqus O'Connor, Esq. Of Hammersmith, Coon

      Leeds -. —Printed for tbe Proprietor , F E A BQUS O'CONNOR , Esq . of Hammersmith , Coon

      Middlesex , By JOSHUA HwaSOW , n nt » rrww-Inj Offlcei , »( w . 12 Md 13 , MaikrtrStreet / Bri ggBtai and Pabllshed by the said Joshua Hobsoit , ( f « r the said Ejbaequs 6 'Cowkob , ) at hi » »«!• Ung ^ ouse , No . 5 , MarkeUtreet , Briggatd ; « internal C « mmunieation ex&ttng between the ssW No . 5 , Market-street , and the said Nos . 12 and 13 , Market-Btreet , Briggate , thus constituting fea whole of the said Printing and Publishing Offloa one Premises . All Communications most be addressed , Post-paid , to Mr . Hobson , Northern Star Office , Leeds , da November 4 , 18 J 3 . )

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Nov. 4, 1843, page 8, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct826/page/8/