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GREAT CONFERENCE AT BIRMINGHAM.
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This l oa * « iH « ap » t ^ Coherence , whichhasl ^ ffli looked forward towith bo much mteres ^ tmaaeneed on Tuesday ™<*^ ^ : . J \ 1 F £° ? toMte . formerly used as the Mechanics' Instotnte , ^ w SWl-street . Application had been made to tte commissioners who haTe control of the Town-HsIL to allow the Conference to be holden in that tefldine , but the wmnissioners are * self-elected the absnrd fear that the
body , and labouring under Conference was likely to be of a dangerous character , they refused to allow the nse of the Hall . It ia due to the members of the Town Council j ^ ioweyer . to state , thai they did not sympathize in t&e ' proceeding , so fever than 43 of them having \ Kgned a memorial to the commissioners , requesting them to grant the use of the Hall , aad others of the body ¦ would have signed the document , had they been at home when called upon . Under these circumstances , the Conference , as we hare before stated , was held in what was formerly the Mechanics' Institute . ,
The Delegates began to pour into Birmingham on Monday morning , and by evening upwards of 500 had arrived . Among the number was Mr . O'Connor . Their names and the towns they represented , will be feond below . The Conference excited nrceh interest in the town , and throughout the sittings , the building was crowded outside by persons anxious to near the proceedings , some of whom succeeded in obtaining admittance . The Delegates were admitted on the production of their credentials . Business "was announced to commence at ten o ' clock on Tuesday morning , at which hoar the majority of the Delegates had assembled . The following is the srder of bnsinees determined on , previous to the arrival of the delegates , by the council of the Complete Suffrage Union , and presented in the form of a Programme to each delegate , ¦ with his card of admission to the Conference .
HORNING SITTING , TUESDAY , DECEMBER 27 , TEN O'CLOCK . 1 . —The Council to present the list of the members of the Conference . i—To appoint a chairman and secretary . 3- —To appoint an election Committee to investigate and decide on the claims of any persons for admission si delegates , -whose name * may not be mentioned in thelist A . —To adopt resolutions declaratory of the principles of the Conference , and the mode of deliberation to be pursued in considering the main business to be brought under discussion .
5 . —To appoint an Executive Committee to consider this programme , and to whom all natters to be brought before the Conference shall be submitted , and ¦ who shall decide upon the order to "which all business » rtnTi fce introduced . 6 . —To fix the hours of meeting , and adopt other regulations tat order . At the first meeting of the Executive Committee , to be held * irrwwH »> j > iy after the dose of this Session , all documents-which are supposed to embody the neces sary details for wotting eut the principles of Complete Suffrage , must be placed in their hands .
EVENING SITTING . 7 . —The Conference to proceed to prepare a BUI , securing the equal representation of the whole people , the-discnssion beirg taken aa in a eomnutise of the ¦ whole body . $ . <—To read the Bin , when prepared , a second time . The same shall not be taken to have received the adoption of the Conference , unless carried aa a "whole on Its Second reading after Mr . pTn ^ mctif in Committee . 9—To determine what member or members of Parliament shall move for leave to bring in the Bill in the Bouse of Commons . AFTERNOON SITTING , THTJRSDAY , DEC . 29 .
10 . —To consider a Plan for an Organized Sjstem of Public Meetings , one object of which will be to make an Appeal to the Electors of the United . Kingdom to vote only for Parliamentary candidates who will support the principles . embodied in the Bill adopted at this Conference ,
FRIDAY'S SITTINGS , DEC- 30 . 1 L—To adopt an address to the people of England , os several of the subjects mentioned in the Circular convening the Conference . 02 . —To consider any otber matters legitimately fcTliTig -within the limits for discussion at this Conference , prescribed by the address convening the Conference . JOSEPH STUBGE , President af the CounciL - The following is an extract from the Address of the National Complete Suffrage Union , dated September , 2842 , in consequence of which the Conference was flfttflTT 9 Ty ^ l VPOBV
As we have been appointed to make arrangements for the calling , of a Conference , to consider the details *» i nU » l tat the carrying oat of ** " > principles on which the Asternal Conpfete Suffrage JJnion is founded ; and as car paramount object is to effect a wtion between the middle vend tutrkiag clones , to secure ike just attd equal , repretadat&m of the vJtole people , we think it our duty to submit such propositions far the consideration of the Conference as may be best promotive of that end . We therefore submit the following propositions for the consideration of the Conference , which we call upon you , the "R ^ ormm of the United Kingdom , to elect :
1 . To determine on the essential details of an Act of Parliament , necessary for securing the just representation of the "whole adult male population of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland ; such Act to embrace the prindpks aad details of Complete Suffrage , Equal Electorial Districts , Tote by Ballot , " Ne Property Qualification , Payment of Members , and Annual Par * -laments , as adopted by the first Complete Suffrage Conference , held at Birmingham , April 6 th , 6 th , 7 tb , and 8 th , 1842 . 2 . To determine what If embers of Parliament shall be appointed to introduce the BUI into the House of Commons ; and in what maneer other members of the Bouse shall be called upon to support it
3 . To endeavour to ascertain how far the friends of Hnaeetricted aad absolute freedom of trade will unite witb us to obtain such an Act of Parliament on their frtBTg fwtisflpri that ** " * newly acquired frafwhiM will jessed in favour of sneb freedom of trade . 4 . To devise the best means for obtaining competent ParliasBentary Candidates , pledged to oar principles ,-» m » smt effectual rn ^ n-nm foy which assistance may be rendered to them in all electoral contests ; and the best Beans tax registering the electors and non-electors throughout the kingdom who may be disposed to pronote our objects . 5 . To consider the propriety of calling upon the xosniapsi electors to adopt immediate measures for securing the election of fcuch men only to represent them in their local governments as are known to fee favourable to Complete Suffrage .
6 . To call upon , our fallow countrymen seriously to consider the . great extent to which , in various ways , they wflErigiy co-operate -with their oppressors ; and ascertain how far they may be disposed to prove their devotion to the cause of liberty , by refusing to be used for the purposes of war , cruelty , and injustice , and particularly by the disuse of intoxicating articles . 7 . To express an opinion as to the duty of the people giving their countenance and support to all those who JDay teffer from espousing their cause . 8 . To determine the best legal and constitutional means for energetically and peaceably promoting the above oVjects ; fer checking all kinds of violence and commotion by which the enemy triumphs j for disseminating sound political knowledge ; for spreading the prhuapleR cf sobriety , peace , and toleration throughout the country , and by every just and virtuous means preparing the people for the proper exercise of their
political and sodal rights , S . To devise means for raising a National Food foz the purpess of promoting the above objects , as well as to proteet all persons -who , in their peaceful prosecution of them , shall become victims of UDjnst laws or despotic ordinances . We therefore adtise that PrBLic Meetings ee calxeb bt Adtebtiszmekt ob Placard , CITING SOT 1 . ESS IKiS TOVB . d-EXB . DATS" JSOTieE WjXTEBT TOWK THROUGHOUT THE KINGDOM , I 5 VITISG THE IKHAB 1 TASTS TO ELECT REPRESENIaTITES TO HOLD " A NATIONAL CONFERENCE AT BlBHISGHASI , OS TCESDAT , THE 27 TH OF DECEJJSEB , 1 S 42 , FOB THE PURPOSE OF PREPARING A 2 $ 1 LL 10 BE SUBMITTED TO PARLIAMENT , FOB ? EcrBl > G THE JUST REPRESENTATION OF THE
• r " hole People ; a > d fob determining on such tiucxful , legal , a 5 d constitutional means as i'at cacss it to become the law of these Beauxs . We Live further to request that two Representatives ke sent ft . "an each of the smaller towns and boroughs , having lees thtm 5 , 000 inhabitants , end four from the krger ones , excepting that Iiondon , Edinburgh , Birmingham , Mi -ncherter , Glasgow , and Liverpool may and six Representatives , but no more . That one half ' of the Representatives shall be appointed by the Ej « t& and half by the . Non-electors . «» iaeetiBg » foTtiMii TeJ £ eaan to be bdd separate , unless teth classes can agree in having all the Representatives «*«* ea at one meeting , ? bkh we earnestly recommend j ht where they donot so H&e , *** * " ° »" ¦ " 5 * to interfere with each oOia ? 4 meetings , otherwise the rterHaBwfflbevoid .
That should the authorities" jBtarfere or tnspass an toli wiutitnticnai right of w&Uk wetts * *> ¦¦ * J I ^^ eat say meetin ^ rom being belt , sonisatioB liste gjfc : ritwaon , toxeee / ro ^ tbe « p » ta »» «* fte M » m-™> , ftcse haviof ttw greater a «» b * « « P »> ™ to be aedared daij etoeted . TbMi U * places seading sepresentatiTS * ma ^ s ar * r angemeBtsfer defraying their expenses . That is our Irbh brethren are prohibited , by exelusr » sna oppreasrre laws , from sending xepresen »» ves tosneh a Confetenee , wo espedaUyinvite , aad wfll * eefwai visitoa , aU who approve of the object or th « ¦«*» & and who abate tbeeooSdeoce of the people of taivxnigj ,
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During MonSay evening , no small share of amazemenVwas excited am « ng the delegates who were flocking la from all quarters , and who respectively repaired , according to arrangement , to the Complete Suffrage Roods for tickets ,-to find that large numbers of the Chartist delegates were refused tickets without any reason being assigned for the refusaWother than that the Council deemed them ineligible / to receive tickets . In this condition were the deleg&terfrom Manchester , from' Sheffield , from Arbroath , and about seventy ethers . The delegates met at the New Inn during the afternoon and evening , The spirit of Indignation rose pretty high , but business-like calmness repressed its fervour ; and it was determined that those of the Chartists who were admitted should make at once , and
in the outset of the proceedings , a dead stand against this tyrannous proceeding . And as , after all , there were quite enough of them against whose election no pretext of dispute could be manufactured to carry a little wholesome sense of fear into the Council , they wisely determined to make a show of generosity in not contesting tae tickets ; and towards night intimation was receive * that tickets would be given to all , and that the Council would recommend the Conference to admit the parties o > jected to at once , and in a body , by a vote ; except some few eases , which were to be reserved for the decision of a Committee . In const qufince sf this arrangement , most of the efrjected delegates again applied for and received tickets either late on Monday night or early on Tuesday morning .
The delegates having then assembled in the building before spoken of , about eleven o ' clock , The Rev . J # Sfkncee , of Hlnton Charter ^ House , Bath , rose amidst cheers and said , that a sufficient number of persons were present to commence the proceedings . Their first business would be to elect a Chairman , ' and , at the request of others , without pushng himself forward , he rose to undertake the duty of . moving one . There were there assembled , a great number of thinking men , perhaps every one of them actuated by different motives . Borne of them probably had come from aowe cause and some from another , but he believed there waB one thing upon -which they were all agreed , comely , that the present system of representation of this country was a bad one . —( hear , hear ..
They all thought that whatever reform they tried to obtain , they would fail , so long as the system continued in its present shape—( hear , hear . ) If they bad tried to effect a reform , either in church or in state , —if they tried to lower the taxes—if they tried to improve the condition of the coloniesif they tried to preserve peace and put an end to waror whatever they tried to effect , that which connected them with the representative system seemed to be broken : —( hear , hear . ) The people could not have ( heir due effect in the House of Cemtnons , and , therefore , they wUhed to change the syBttm . In order to accomplish this , the grand thing to be aimed at was to effect a thorough union of the people—( hear , hear , sod cheers . ) They came there to consider how far they
could agree , and not wherein they differed . —( hear , bear , hear . ) They must allow everj » an to be honest in his opinions , and if he expressed those opinions Wth frankness and honesty , they must agree to give -tim a Lur hearing , attd to listen to him with every mark if respect—only claimin ? for themselves the right to hold their own opinions—( bear , hear ) . That liberty -which * they conceded to others they must certainly TT > ttin + » in for themselves , and whilst they deprecated the possession of unworthy motives , they must not charge any others with being bo actuated until their own actions convinced them of the fact —( hear , hear ) . They must have that " charity which hopeth all things , " and so long as a man conducted himself honestly , they must regard him as an honourable upright man—( bear ,
hear ) . It would be their duty to elect a Chairman who would fairly hold the balance between all parties , and who would be no respecter of persons . In proposing Mr . Sturge , he thought they would all agree with him , from bis past history , that they had a sufficient guarantee that be possessed these qualifications —( hear , hear ) . Ee ( Mr . Spencer ) would trespass upon their attention for a few moments , in alluding to what that past history had been , as it appeared to him to be connected in a very important manner with the present movement . Mr . Sturge was first known to the world , as a public character , in his determined opposition to negro slavery . Ee szw there a great evil ; he went , at his own cost , to the place where slavery existed . Ee went into the West Indies , and he there saw , with his own eyes .
the horrible cruelties perpetrated by the slave owners upon their - poor unoffending victims . He came back to England and lectured in various parts cf the country , and the first time at which he ( Mr . 8 . ) had the pleasure of meeting him was at Derby , where he was then directing his philanthropic efforts to the destruction of that iniquitous system , by arousing pnblic attention te a sense of its enormities . Mr . Sturge had lived to see his exertions crowned with success , and slavery was abolished in the British dominions . Bat then he was told , and very properly , that there was slavery at home—that there were white slaves as well as black ones . Ee , therefore , felt himself bound , in common , honesty to effect its oTerthrow , and he bad arrived at the conclusion , that the only mode by
whieh that could be effected was to reform the representative system , and to give to every man , who had arrived at the yean of maturity , and was untainted by crime , a voice in the making of those laws by which be was governed , and by which his bappinera , morally and physically considered , was so materially affected—( cheers . ) He directed his attention to the country in which such a system of representation existed—the Ynited States—( hear , hear . ) Ee had travelled throughout the extent of the country . He had investigated the state of society there . He bad made himself acquainted with the cheapness of the government He had seen the peace and good order and general content which prevailed among the citizens , and then he came back to England , and dstermined
to devote his energies to the establishment of a similar system here —( cheers ) . Mr . Sturge believed It would work well for England , as it had done for America . He had convinced himself of it by facts and by testimony ; and hense he b * A come home determined to do all that lay in bis power to procure a full , fair , and free representation of the people—( cheers ) . Then the question arose , how was he to do this ? There had been systems proposed which did net go far enough ; and he believed that the great object to be aimed at was to move tht classes that had the rotes . The grand thing to be aimed at was to get the co > opei . ration of those who had tbe power of sending men to Parliament—( bear , bear ) . Others might labour for the prom otion of partial representation ; Mr . Stnrge had felt it his duty to labour for
nothing short of complete representation ; and , without saying anything of those who chose to * diSex from him , he had determined to co-operate in th is peaceful warfare , if he might so describe it , in w . hich they were engaged—( cheers ) . He had introduced Use narrow end or the wedge by proposing the plan Ot Complete Suffrage , and he thought , thst if be could eoMrinee men of religion and men of influence , that the principle was a sound and true one , he should get Complete Snffrage , and that all that could be desirable / or the people to possess , or that they had a light to dei . nand , would follow its enactment—( bear , hear , bear ) . It was true that , at one t ime , Mr . Sturge Was
wishful to argue one point at a time , and to convince others of the unreasonableness of requiring Six Points at a tune , but when he was convinced of the necessity of those Six Points beints conceded , he was not slow to . adopt them , as be had done , one by one , and after tbe most mature consideration of their necessity to secure good Government , and to establish peace and tranquillity amongst all classes—( cheers ) With such a past history as this , therefore , he regarded Mr . Sturge as the ferj best man in the kingdom to act as their chairman—ihear , bear . ) He bad great pleasure in proposing Mr . Sturge to fill that responsible and important office , and he hoped the meeting would be unanimous in favour of his election—( bear , hear ,
and cheers . ) Mr . F . OCoskob was received with loud applause . He said he begged leave , most cordially , to second the proposal of Mr . Spencer , and he did it , not only for the reasons already stated by tbat gentleman , namely , that he would give satisfactien to the Conference—but he did it also for the purpose of giving satisfaction to the country at huge—( hear . ) At the same time h « trusted that the meeting would not allow , or that Mr . Sturge himself would not allow the proposition to be made out of time , because in the programme he observed that tbe first thing was to present to the Conference
a list of members . Now whether it was thought necessary to appoint a chairman before that was done , might be a question , as the second proposition in the programme was for that object . For hi » self he did not think that it signified much which was done first , and , upon the whole , he was inclined to think that it would be better to appoint a chairman hi the first instance—( hear , heat . ) He entirely acquiesed in every word whieh had fallen from Mr . Spencer in proposing Mr . Sturge as chairman , and be hoped and trotted fltat tbere would be an nnanimou vote upon tbe question , and that it would b « a precursor to that unanimity which , he hoped , would mask aU their
proceeding *—( cheers . ) Mr . WuxiMOjr , of Exeter , then proceeded to call for a show of hatfds In favour of Mr . Spencer ' s pro position , whieh was «« ried wianimously , and amidst considerable cheering . Mr . W . said he had the proud satisfaction of witnessing JK > much harmony In a meeting called for the discussion of the most vital subjects eoaneetea with the liberties Ot ti » e wnntry—( near ,
bear ) . Mr . Sixmos , ob taking the chair , was greeted with enthusiastic and prolonged cheering . 2 ? e s *» he rose en the present occasion with saore than usual embams-
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ment He trusted that the manner in which the motion had been carried wan a f » Tov > rable omen of the progress of the cause . He certainly felt himself altogether unworthy of the encomiums passed upon him , but as far as be was identified with the great question they were met to advocate , he trusted tbe unanimity shown was a very favourable harbinger of its final success—( hear , hear ) . With reference to tbe remark which Mr . O'Connor had made , as to a Blight alteration in the programme , it was , perhaps , necessary to state that it bad been considered advisable , under all the circumstances , that the Chairman should be elected , and he believed that by doing so it would facilitate their future proceedings—( bear , hear ) . Before they proceeded to the business immediately before them , perhaps he might be allowed
to Bay that no reasonable effort had been left untried to obtain the same room in the Town Hall , in which the last Conference met That building , however , was under the control of a self-elected body , who seemed so afraid of tbe progress of this peaceful movement that they had adopted more stringent measures than be believed was ever KBOrted to in any Conservative town in England , to prevent their holding the Conference there—( hear , hear . ) But to show that this feeling was not participated in by the rate payers , he held in his hand a memorial , signed by forty-three members of the Town Council against this arbitrary proceeding , and which would have been signed by a greater number of that body had the parties been at home when they were called upon . As he conceived the credit of the
town was at stake , with regard to this refusal of the commissioners , he would take tbe liberty to read the memorial before they proceeded to business . [ Mr . Sturge then read the memorial , which expressed the opinion of the subscribers that the deliberations of the Conference were likely to be eminently characterised by peacefulness , philanthropy , and national importance , and prayed that the use of the Town Hall might be granted . ] This memorial , the re ^ uestof which was refused on Friday last , left the council no alternative ; but to engage the building in which they were then assembled , and he hoped , therefore , that their friends wopld excuse the inadequacy of the accommodation , it being the only suitable room which could be obtained for the occasion . Having said thus much with regard to their
place of meeting , he begged to say , that although he was particularly anxious that they sheuld proceed to business , and not to make speeches , yet bt believed it would be right for him to trespass for a moment or two with reference to the particular position ia which they now stood—( hear , hear . ) Some of them , and himself among the number , had been frequently applied to by their neighbours of the working class to assist in the movement to obtain for them complete justice in the representation . Some of them had at first declined to take part in anch a proceeding . First , because it was considered that the "Universal Suffrage patty bad a suftcient number of able leaders in the field ; and secondly , because it was said that there was identified with the term Chartism , something so prejudicial to
the minds of- the middle classes and to the great proportion of tbe electors , arising oat of certain incitements which were said to have been used in favour of physical force and violence—that there was no probability of their being able to carry the middle classes along with them—( hear , hear . ) Now , be ( Mr . S . ) was one of those who was happy to btar his testimony to the fact that there was as great a number of men of peace amongst the honest Chartists as in any other body of politicians in the country—( loud cheers . ) At the same time , he was pound to acknowledge that there were at one time expressions made use of , and acts resorted to , which gave some grounds for the opinionajto which be bad adverted . Bat , he added , it was the duty ef every one , in a bold and
uncompromising manner to advocate just legislation , however he might condemn or disapprove some of the means others might think it right to adopt—( hear , hear . ) It was with those views , and on this principle , that the Complete Suffrage Association had commenced its labours . Its principal object and its principal efforts had been directed to innnce the electors , and those who bad the power , willingly to gtant full justice to theiri unenfranchised fellow-countrymen—( cheers . )—The Council were bound together in a solemn league to pnrsoe this object by peaceable , legitimate , and constitutional means only , and the success that they had met with encouraged them to hope , that by forbearance and argument they might be able to break down that barrier which so unhappily existed between classes whose
interests were inseparably identified by some circumstances which bad occurred daring the last few years —( Hear , hear . ) At the former Conference the Six Points to which reference had been made , by his friend Mr . Spencer , had been adopted . He ( Mr . Stnrge ) could confirm the opinion stated by Mr . Spencer , that every one of those points was carried , not by prejudice , but by reason ; and he was BaUerfled that any inpartial person who happened to be present , and who heard the arguments advanced , could not help going away with the impression that all prejudice would be removed from tbe minds of the opponents of the friends of the people , and having invited the closest investigation and scrutiny into every act of the council , he ( Mr . Sturge ) thought they
were entitled to credit for honesty , until the contrary cculd be proved against them—( Hear , hear . ) But at the same time he wished meat explicitly and unequivocally to say that the council could not , either directly or indirectly , agree to any compromise whatever of their peaceable principles . He was one of those who , when he saw persons in high station , like Lord John Russell , accused in his place in tbe House of Commons of having arrayed one part of the population in arms against another—when he saw both the leading parties in tbe state united hi inducing young men to go on a murderous cnuade against tbe Chinese and the Affghans in India—the cost of which was to be paid out of tbe hard earnings of the labouring classes —when be saw the leading political journals vieing
with each other in scurrility and falsehood—he repeated , he was not one of those who was disposed to judge harshly , if so trad an example should happen to nave followers . If there were any present , therefore , who had pursued the course to which he had alluded , and who now aaw it was wrong , and who , by deeds as well as words , would prove in future they bad seen their errors , he hoped the past would be buried in oblivion—( hear , bear . ) Bat be wished most emphatically to ssy , and in doing bo be was quite sure he should express the feelings of every member of the Council , that they could net unite with any one who would in any way encourage any species of violence for the attainment of their great object—( hear , hear . ) As the Conference had shown him this mark of kindness by placing him in the chair , he would , to the extent of his feeble abilities , endeavour to do impartial justice to every delegate present ; and , should any
circumstances arise ( which , however , he did not anticipate ) to induce him to resign the arduous situation , let the Conference be assured that he should do so with perfect good feeling—( hear , hear . ) He was one of those who thought , whether this Conference effected the great object they had in view or not , that their principles must ultimately triumph , because they were based upon the eternal principles of truth and justice —( cheers . ) He believed the next business before the Conference was the election of a Secretary , and , before that fueBtion was put , he perhaps might be allawed to make an allusion to tba gentleman whom they bad in view—( hear , hear , bear . ) His friend , Mr . Morgan , had devoted a great deal time of time in « rorkini ? out the details of both this and the preceding Conference , and be ( Mr . Sturge ) would venture to say , that if the Conference elected him he would save them much expence in fees , as well as a considerable saving in point of time—{ hear , hear , and laughter . )
Mr . 6 a bdner , Manchester , begged to propose Mr . Morgan to & 11 tbe office of Secretary . That gentleman had filled a lumilar office at tbe last Conference , and no man could have discharged tbe arduous duties of the office in a more efficient way than be bad done—( hear , hear ) . Moreover , Mr , Morgan was a legal gentleman , and as some members of the Conference were supposed to be Bomewhat illegal , or that their proceedings tended to illegality , Mr . Morgan . '» advice might be of some service to them in restraining their democratic enthusiasm within reasonable bouna *— il&ughter ) . The Rev . Dr . Wade , London , seconded the proposition , which was put from the C ' oair , and unanimously carried .
Mr . M « R « an begged to thank" the Conference for their kind expression of feeling with . respect to himself . He should be quite ready to devote whatever time and abilities he might have to the service oft ' the Conferenco —{ hear , bear ) . He believed his first drt . Y would be to announce the name * of the parties constituting the assembly . Th » Chairman said that'it would bo extremely desirable , when any delegate rose to address" the meeting , that he would announce his name and the * place he represented . . Mr . Parry , London , understood tfa&t some gentlemen claimed to have a sight to sit in this Confmence in consequence of being members of the last ConferOMe , but who would not have a tote . What regulation \ W proposed to be adopted with respect to them r
The Skcbbtakt apprehended that there was bo gentleman present who was not aware that the credentials of tomi of them bad not been received . In all eases in whieh they hai been received the patties had a right to be present and to take part in the deliberations . He had to present a list of persons whieh had been marked No . 1 , who constituted the Conference . It was a very lengthy one , and Included the names of individuals wbo represented all shades ot Reformers He bad also to present another list , No , 3 containing tbe names of persons whose appointments as delegates were irregular , but in respect to them the Council reoam-Biended their admission by a vote of the Conference—
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( hear , hear ) . The whole of the credentials having passed through his hands , it was found that a very great many of the delegates were irregularly appointed . He might state , that -wherever those irregularities were occasioned bymere matters of form ; and there was no apparent violation of the spirit of the invitation , the Council had felt themselves justified in placing the names in list No . 2 . But where there was a violation of the spirit of the invitation , the Council placed the names m list No . 3 . There where a number of town * in which elections of delegates fead taken place under circumstances so entirely at variance with what the Council considered both the Bpirit and the letter of the invitation , that they had determined to reject them altogethw , and they wished to have the opinion of a committee , choBen by the Conference , as to the mode in which such oases should be disposed of . The list No . 1 , against which there was no objection whatever , would , of course , bo received first .
Mr . J . Hobson , Leeds , suggested that each delegate should rise aa bis name was called—( hear , hear ) . Mr . J . ArraK , of Bradford , begged to say , in the outset , that be objected to the distinction of lists . He considered that the Council had no right whatever to ssy who should constitute that assemblage and who should not . That right be apprehended rested with the Conference and witb , no other party—( loud cries of 11 hear , hear" ) . . •¦ ' : : , ' ¦ . ¦ v : . ¦ ¦ , :-:. . ¦¦;; ,. Mr . Hobson said , that if he understood the
secretary right , there were three lists of petsons to be read . One containing the , names of persons abont whose election there was no doubt ; another , with respect to whom there-was some doubt ; and another whose names bad been objected to altogether . What the Council proposed to the Conference to do was to paw a resolution , declaratory of their opinion bow they thought such cases ought t ^ Mealt with—( hear , hear ) . Mr . O'Connor understood Mr . Arran ' s objection to be tnat the disputed lists should not be decided by the liBt No . 1 . ( Bear . ) :
Mr . ARRan maintained that every delegate had a right to take bis seat in the Conference , until it should be decided that he had no right to be there . ( Hear ) The Chairman believed that there was ne desire whatever to keep a single individual out of the Cenference . But the Council having taken upon themselves tbe responsibility of inviting their friends from the country to meet on this most important occasion , it was thought right to lay down certain rules which should be acted upon for the maintenance of proper order . They -were fully aware that , under the circumstances , it was possible that those rules would not be strictly
complied with , and they felt that as a Council they were bound to the country to be guided by the spirit of the invitation in the lists they made ont—( heir , bear . ) There was great difficulty in arriving at a correct state of tbe facts , because they must be guided , in a great measure , by eK-parte evidence , and they were desirous , on that account , that the Conference should appoint its own Committee , in order to determine whether the parr tics objected to ought to form part of the assemblage or not —( hear , hear ) In the responsible situation in which tbe Council felt themselves placed , they must , to a certain extent , be bound to the rule they had laid down . : ¦ ' .. ¦¦'¦¦ ¦ .. '' ¦'• . ¦ "¦ : ¦ ''" ' ¦ •¦¦'¦ ¦
Mr . O'Connor was of opinion that the question lay in a nutshell . The council of the Complete Suffrage Union Issued their writs to certain towns to send delegates to the Conference . Then he thought that they must take as prima fmeie evidence of a person ' s being elected , the credential signed by the Chairman , who was returning officer— ( hear , hear . ) It would be : impossible to reject the parties in the lists 2 and 3 , upon mere ex parte evidence going againBt the decision of the returning officer , because his was the only evidence they had as to the validity of the election . He thought It would be better if the secretary would state the nature of the evidence upon which the council had rejected the delegates , so that the Conference might be put in possession of the nature of the objection —( hear , hear . ) • • ¦ ' ¦ - •• .: ' ; - :. ' . ¦ . ' . : ¦ ¦ . ¦¦ ¦ ¦' ¦ .:.: ¦¦ ' ¦ '
The Chairman said that the only objection he had to Buch a course being adopted was , that if each case underwent discussion , the best part of their time would be consumed , and the most important part of the bnsiness left unfinished . Mr . Cl J . WCT , Brighton , deoidedly objected to be tried in the manner proposed , and for this reason , that his constituents had sent him there not to be tried by a jury , or a class , but by the whole Conference—( hear , hear . ) If his name was placed in list No . 2 , he wits confident there were certain parties in list No . 1 , the illegality of whose election he could prove—( hear , bear . ) Was it fair that he should be tried by parties in such a situation?—! " No , no I ") : ;
Mr . Colquhoun , of Glasgow , observed , that on the most minute examination of the case , he found that there was not theshadow . " of objection to some delegates to whom cards bad been refused the previous night—( hear , hear . ) On the other band , he bad seen men with his own eyes , receiving cards , who had no earthly title to them , if the address Issued by the council was to be carried out—( hear , hear . ) It was an easy matter for persons ot a distance , having some spleen against him , to protest against the validity of his election ; but
as a party sent there by the people of Glasgow , he maintained that all matters affecting the legality of elections should be decided by the whole Conference , and not by a part of it If they acted upon the plan pointed oat by the Chairman , they mfght disfranchise whole towns , and he begged to ask . whether they were prepared upon the representation of one sided evidence to commit such an act of injustice 1 Or were the delegates to sit with their hands in their pockets whilst the committee decided upon the validity of these elections ? He thought not . . ¦
Bev . T . SPKiftJEB thought that there was a great misapprehension of what bad been said before the meeting by the Secretary . He ( Mr . S . ) was present at the meeting of the Council on the previous night , and he could assure them there was no wish on the part of that body to prevent a single delegate taking bis seat on that Conference if be was legally entitled to do so—( hear , bear . ) The Secretary had already stated that the Council recommended the admission of the names in list No . 2 , by a vote of the Conference , and in order to carry out that recommendation , he begged to propose that such parties be forthwith admitted as members of the Convention—( hear , hear . ) Mr . O ' CONNOR seconded the motion . Mr . Hobson proposed the following amendment : —
" That this Conference be constituted of all the delegates who have been appointed by the people in their several localities , and who have presented themselvei at this board to take their scats ; any party having objections to urge against the elections of the delegates , such objections to be made either in open Conference er before a Committee to be appointed . " Mr . ARRAN seconded the amendment , and in doing so , be begged to state that he for one did not imagine that any delegate would come there without the shadow of an election , or with a wish to impose upon the Conforence —( hear , hear . ) He had no such suspicion , either with respect to the Complete Suffragists or the Chartists .
The Rev . Mr . Hill should support the amendment , and be did so trusting that he should receive credit for not being disposed to cast any unworthy slur or suspicion on the gentlemen composing the Complete Su * age Council . He fully appreciated the candid disposition manifested by that council in recommending the admission of the gentlemen in Hut No . 2 . He was quite ready to admit that that might have been done , as bad been intimated by the mover to save the time which perhaps might otherwise be spent in useless , exciting , and vexatious inquiries . He was desirous to appreciate and respect the feelings which induced the Council not to press such inquiries . He was willing to give them credit for the best feeling in'the matter and he was only anxious that they should evince it by avoiding whatever could be otherwise construed by the moat captious . He thought it would be much more desirable to admit the names in list No . 2 , as a matter of right , than as a matter of courtesy —( cheers ) .
The Rev . E . Miall , of London , thought there was no necessity for going far into the question . If those delegates who had supported the'amendment weuld consider for a moment how far their principle carried them , and might have carried the Council of the Complete Suffrage Union , had they been disposed to do evil , he thought they could at once accord with the resolution which had been moved by Mr . Spenser and seconded by Mr . O'Connor ! The Council ha * called a Conference of delegates from various parts of the kingdom . They had laid down certain rales , according to which they could judge whether those delegates were really representatives or the persona whom they represented to be—( hear , hear . ) They wished to liave a bona fid * Conference and not merely a nominal one —( hear , hear . ) The Council , then , had laid down certain rules , which
would be a test of admission to the Conference , and by which they would judge—whether the delegates had been sent by the people or not , whether meetings bad been fairly called , and whether they were « o constituted as that the choice of the people should be sent there —( hear , hear ) . Now , if the Council were to act entirely and exclusively on tfcs lettei of their previous kutrucHoni , there were some persons they would ra eet . Bat they proposed no such large measure , bat thai all who had been included in list No . 9 , should compvoetbe Conference , believing that the eUwtions had befln bcmtjtde , and that the rules had been violated rather in letter than in spirit —( hear , hear ) . H the Council had not acted in this manner they might themselves have filled the Conference with delegates of their own eboasingi and thus have carried things M they pleased —( hea « , hear ) . , Mr . J . WILLIAHS . of Sunderfand , was of opinion that if the election of delegate ! bad taken place In con-
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formity with the invitation of the council , he maintained that at present no gentleman had a right to take any part in the proceedings but who could clearly be proved to have been elected in conformity with the regulations of the council —( hear , hear . ) V Mr . Davis , of Hawicfc , remarked that in all disputed elections of the House of Commons , all the patties took their seats in the House , until they were disqualified by a committee appointed to try the merits of the case—. ( hear , ; hear . ) ¦ ¦ '• . ' . - ' : ¦ - . ¦ , ; . . ' -.-. . . : - - .
Mr . Spencer wished to state that the principle alluded to by the previous speaker was the one on / which the Council were disposed to act , and to allow the delegates to take their seats until the committee bad decided against them . They desired that the committee to be appointed should even compose , a considerable majority favourable to the individuals whose claims were disputed —( hear , bear ) . If they committed an error , they wished it to be on the side of letting the delegates in rather than of keeping them out—( hear , heat ) . - . - " . . - ¦ .. ¦ . "" . ¦ . ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦' : ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦[
Mr . Hobson conceived that it was an invidious distinction to speak of lists one , two , and three . What was the precedent in such matters ? The return of the Returning Officer was thB qualification of a person to take his seat in the House of Commons , until ho was petitioned againBt , and that petition had been formally investigated—( hear , hear . ) What would they say if , when the House of Commons met ,, and that one-thirjl of the members wexe petitioned against , the remaining two-thirds should pat the one-third out of the door , while they seated ^ themselves ?—( heat , hear . ') The delegates had no right to decide upon the list Ne . 2 , without evidence . They bad no evidence to show that the elections bad been conducted in an irregular manner . He maintained that all delegates who presented themselves ought to be admitted , on the primta facie evidence that the Chairman was the best judge of tfie validity of the elections—( hear , bear . ) ,
Mr . Spenceb said if it would save time , he was quite willing to withdraw his resolution—( hear , hear . ) Mr . Patrick Brewsier , of Paisley , considered it was not competent for any individual to withdraw a motion without the consent of those who had supported it . ¦ ¦ ¦ . ¦ . ¦ ¦ ¦ - .. ¦' ¦ .. . ¦ / . ¦ ¦ .. ¦ ¦ / . ¦ . ¦ . ¦ ¦ .. After a desultory conversation between the movers and seconders of the two propositions , Mr . Spencer withdrew hifl motion , and that proposed by Mr . Hobson , being put aa the original one , waa carried by a large majority . - " ¦ ¦¦ . - ¦ ¦ : ... ¦ .-. : ¦ , : \ ..-- . ; ' ' : . ; Mr . AttlRiOHT then read over the list of delegates present , and the places they represented . The list is as follows : —
Alrdrie . — -Wm . Bredie . Alnwick—Josh . Forster , Green Bat Cottage , Alnwick , Rev . Joseph Price , Birmingham , James Atkinson , Birmingham , S . Haycock , Weodcock-street , Birmingham . Aberdeen ^ Jas ; H . Wilson , Jno . Mitchell , Archibald M'Donald , and Wm . Chilton , Birmingham . Arnold . —Alfred Anthony and Wok Salbert AnderBton—Patrick O'Higgins and Wm . Parkea . Arbroath—Chas Crawford , Abm . Duncan , Peter Higgins . Wm . Thornton , and F . O'Connor . Barrnead—Wm . Cotton . Belper—Janes f ickers . Blackburn—Wm . Beesley , Accrington , Rev . Wm > Hill , Leeds , and George Morton ; Birmingham . Barnsley—John Vallance and Frank Mirfield . Bath—Rev . E . Spencer , Hinton , and John Hopkins . ¦ ¦ ¦ Bath . :. ¦¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ' ¦ - . ¦ , •• -: ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ - - : ¦ ¦ •¦
Bromsgrove—Matthew Hall , and Henry Prosser . Bury—Thos . Kay , Stanley-street , and Edwd . Murless , Park-street , Birmingham . Bilston , —Benjamin Skidmore . Bradford—John Smith , Peter Driver , John Arran , and Josh . Hammond . ' Bridport—Charles Sturge , Birmingham , and Charles Clarke , Bath . Banbury—B CockwiII , R . K . Philp , and E . French . Bridge water—Thomas Hill , and P . J . Thompson . Birmingham—Arthur ONeil , Thomas Parkes , F . O'Connor , George White , John Follows , and John Horaley . ' , .. . - ¦ . ' . ' - ' " '; .- - : Bradford ( Wilts)—0 . Rolf , G . Luenan , Birmingham , and Josh . Gardner .
Bristol—A . Allbiight , J . Palmer , J . Johnston , C . Chard , T . Simeon , H . Onion , R . H . Williams , and John .-. - . Newman . '¦¦ ; . ¦ ¦ .. ¦¦ ¦ . ¦ : .. . . :. . ' .-. ' :. ' ; . - .... Brighton . —C . Brooker . L . T . Clancy , and W . Feest . Basford ( Newj— -T . Rowland and J . Harrison . Campsie—Con Murray , Glasgow . Cradley—Jne . Blanchfleld . Cambridge—T . Woods , R . Thurlborn , Jno . Winfleld , r Birmingham , and Jno . ; Hunt . Carlisle—Walter Thorne and Geo . Richardson . Cupar—Win . Morgan . Crcditon—Jon . Barridge , Saml . Irdwell , Bath , Edwd . Miall , London , and Wm . Lovett , ditto . Cheltenham—Wm . Hollis , Cheltenham , Wm . Milson , . 'ditto . - . ¦ : . . ¦ ¦ - ¦ ¦ ¦/ . ¦ ¦ ¦¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦¦ ¦ :- . : ¦ : ¦ " . - ¦
Cirenoester—Thos . Taylor . Ceres—A . Albright and Rd . Dell . Chalford—Rd . Workman . Coventry—Peter Haye and J . Starfcie . Desnshall—Jas . Adams , Summer-lane , Birmingham . DnHjfermllne—J . P . Rodger , Glasgow , and Andrew ¦ ¦ Fleming . "¦ ¦ ¦ ; : / /' - ¦¦ ¦ ; ' •¦ . -.. O ' . ' B « rby—Q . Stevenson , Derby , Jno . West , Herbert Spencer , and Saml . Pendle . Dundee— O . J . Rowland , Dundee , and William Da' . ' . . . vidson . ¦ . " ' ¦ ; . ' ¦¦ ¦ ' ¦ ¦ - ' / : ' ¦ - ... . ¦' . '¦¦ ¦ ' . . ¦ : . ¦¦¦ . ¦ " Doncaster—Chs . Buckley , Doncaster , Thos . Wright , and Arthur Albright , Birmingham . Dartmouth—Cbaa . Walker , Dartmouth . Dumfries and Maxweltown— —Humphery . Devises—G . W . Aushe , Revd . Q . WesUey , Chaa . Watson , and Wm . Akerman .
Dalkelth—Jno . Thomason . Bxeter—W . J . P . Wilkinson and E . Davy . Edinburgh—Rev . Dr . Ritchie , Edinburgh , Rt . Lowery , John Dunlop , Henry Rankin , and Josh . Sturfe Birmingham . East Wemyss—Jno . Brown , Birmingham . Elderslle- ^ C . Therp . Forfar—B . Oakley , Birmingham , and William Cooper , "¦ ditto . . ¦ ¦ ¦ " : . •¦;' ¦ . ¦" :. . ¦ ¦¦ . - . " ¦¦ ¦ ¦ . ¦• - - . '¦ ¦ Falmouth—Isaiah Pumphrey , Edgbaaton , Birmingham . Frome— W > P . Roberta , Bath . Glasgow—Thomas Ancott , James Moir , James Adams , Samuel Kidd , and John Colquhoun . Galasblels—Rev . Robert Blair , Galashiels , and John . - . ' -. l ^ iorae . . - ' ' ¦ ¦' ¦ . ' . ¦ , ¦¦ ¦ . '¦ '¦ - . ' : Greenwich—Charles Finch . Gatehouse—Robert Soniers .
Greenock—George Robertson . Great Bolton—James Lord and George Scott . Hammersmith—William Watkina Wynne . Hebden Bridge—Jamea Mairthy , Birmingham . Hanley—Moses Simpson , Pall-mall , Melton , and James French , Newcastle . Hull—William Webster , Edw . Preston Mead , Daniel Moloney , and William Padget . Hawick—Thomas Davies . Halifax—Edward Taylor , Birmingham , and Benjamin Rushton , Ovenden . : Hamilton—Archibald Walker . Huddersfield—James Shaw , Thomas Veevers , Edward Clayton , and William Cunningham . Ipswich—Henry Yincent , William Fraser , D .
M'Pherson , and Wm . Garrod Jedborghr-Fatrick BrewBter , Paisley . Ketterfofi ^ Itev . William Robinson and Edward Jen' . : ¦ kinson . ' : : : - ; . " : " . ' - ; . ¦¦ : " ¦ •¦ ' v ¦ ' .. KUmarnook—William Cotton , Birmingham . Kltkaldy—Joseph Cobley , Birmingham , G . B . Haynes , ditto , B . Beesley , ditto , and Dr . Glover , Edinburgh . Kendal—William Stately , Birmingham , William Harr ison , ditto , Joseph Perry , ; ditto , and Joseph Gendner , ditto . Keighley—Joseph Firth . King's Lynn—John Field , Birmingham , F . Evans , ditto , Joseph Corbett , ditto , and James Fowell , . . . '¦ ; ¦ 'lynn . - ; ¦ . : ' : ' ¦ : ¦ ; ' -. . ;¦ ¦ : ¦¦ . ' . ' ¦ ¦•; / ¦ - . ; : ' ¦ . '' ¦ .. •• : ¦ ¦ Kirriermuix—J . Peteikln .
London—Southwaik—John Maynard , John Rose , Jno . Kelsey , aud John FusselL Lambeth—J . G . Dover , John Sewell , Henry Ross , and J . K Brown . Finsbury—J . Knight , J . Cluer , J . Campbell , and H . Hetherington . Mary-le-bone—J . H . Parry , T . Xucas , R . Buchanan , and T . M . Wheeler . Tower Hamlets—Dr . Wade , W . Bobson , P . M'Grath , and O . Wilson . Westminster—J . Skelton . ' J . Christopher , R . Ridley , and W . Clarke . City—Edwin Mantx , and Chas . BolwelL Lye Waste—J . Stunney . Liverpool—B . M'Cartney , W > Jones r- T . Smith , H . Jones , C . GwilUams , and S Oowaa . Leeds—T . Fraser , W . Brooke , J . Hobson , and W . ¦ ¦ ¦ . ¦ ¦ ¦ Barron . ... : V-.- . : ; :- . . " . ¦ : ¦ . ¦¦ ¦ . '' - .: ' : ¦ '¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ - ' ¦ ¦ ¦ Leslie—Josiah Pumphrey , R . Ploken , and J . B . ¦ ¦
;¦ - . Eanson . '¦¦ ¦ . :, ¦ ¦ . ¦ "' ¦¦ .- - ¦ ¦ ' : ¦ ¦ .: ¦ . ¦¦ . ¦ - ¦" Long Bnckby—John Eyre . Loughborough—J . Skevingon . I ^ oe « ter--T . Cooper , J . R . H . Bsirstow , J . Dufly , and . ¦ ¦' • : - B .-Jackson . .. •"¦ . ¦¦ ¦ ¦ . ' . ¦ ¦' . ' ¦¦ : ¦ ' ¦/ :: ¦ ¦ ;¦ . ¦ . ^ - ' ¦¦ " ' ¦ '¦' ¦ . Msjasfield—Smith Lyndon , and « ev . Wm . mil . MarUnch' —Wm . Twills , and Rd » JenldnSon . Market Hstboroogh—B . Whiteman , and B . Cartes . Melksbam—J . A . Lander . V MertbyrTydvU—Wm . Miles , and B . Habard . Marybill—J . Gardner . Manchester—J . Leach , C . » oyto , W . Dlxson , J | Lane , P . M . Brophy , and T . Rallton . Newark—R . CollmsandJ . Saunders . Newburgh—J . d . Peny ' .. ind R Fox NewoasUe-upon-Tyne ^ - J . Sinclair , F , O'Connor , T . Wileke , A . Fussell , J . S . Qilmore , and W . Hop .
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Newport , We of-Wight—T . Pierce . Nottingham—S . Bean , T . Beggs , W . H . Mbtt , andR . 1 Morrison , v . '" ' : ' , ¦¦ ' Northwich—J . Dixon , and G . Green . Notthampton— ... Thorn . Oldbury— W . BalJ . Oldham—F . Lord , J . Greaves , John West , and J . Crowder . ¦ .:- ' .. ; .. ' " . ¦' . ' . ¦ ¦ ¦ '• ' : ::. '¦ ¦ •• .- '' PollockshawB— Charles M'Ewaa Paisley—Patrick Brewster , B , Cochraue , Joseph Coxbett , and W . C Pattison . Preston—W . MattinsonandR . Marsden . Renfrew—Henry Sansum and Patrick Brewater . Rsdditch—Wm . Parkes . Rntherglen—W . C . Pattison and C M'Ewan .
Rochdale—J . Taylor , : Royton—Jas . Mills , and T . Lees . Reading—G . Goodrfck , L . Hey worth , J . Vines , and H . ¦ James . ' ¦¦•¦ ;; - ¦ ¦' ; .. '¦ . ' ¦ ¦ ' ' . '' ¦' . '¦ Radford—J . Saunders , — Rowell , and John Wilmot Sudbury—Rev . T . Swan , Cf . Lambert , and R . Wright Stroud—S . Paul . Stewartoni—Rov . W . Stokes . Strathavon—F . O'Connor and G . White . Stoorbridge—T . H . Morgan and J . Chance . Selby—Edward Bnrley . Stockport—T . Clarke and J . Atkinson . Stirling—Rev . H . Solly . Southampton—F . Cooper . Saltcoats- —J . Henderson and J . P . Rsld .
Sunderland—J . Sturge , W . P . Roberts , J . Thompson , and J . Williams . . i Salford—Robert M'Farlane . Sutton-ln-Ashfield—W , Oliver and W . Parker . Stonehonse—W . Inglis . . Shutford—T . P . Wrench . Salford—^ F . Warren . Smethwick—W . Hackett and M . Gilbert . Soutb-Sbielda—D . Potts and Charles Ashton . Sheffield—Richard Abbott , S . Parkes , G . J . Harney , and W . Beesley . Trowbridge—J . Watts and P . Roberts . Tonbridge—D . S . Rowlinson . Todmordeo—J . Fielden and H . Sbepbard . Taunton—W . Braman and W . Earriaon . Towyn—Griffitb Evans . :
Tolcross—P . O'Higgins and L . Pitkethly . Tale of Leyen—Con Murray . West Bromwich—J . Powell and G . WUkes . Wednesbury—B . Danks and W . Thomasou . . Warwick—C . French , J . Green , J . Shephard , and J . ¦ Sexty .., / ¦ ¦ ; . ; ; . ' :. :. V '' : ¦ ¦ ¦ ' :- ¦;••; . '¦ ' ¦ ¦¦¦ ' ¦ , Walssll—J . Crow , A . Aitkens , J . Griffiths , and } ¦ ¦ Mason ; - .. - ¦ ... " ¦ -- . ; ¦; ' : : . - ¦ ¦ ¦ '•¦ . ' ¦ . .,- . ¦ ., ¦ .. ¦ ¦ : - . ¦ Wellingboro' — W . Gent and J . Robinson . Warrington- ^ B , A . Dromgool and J . D . Stevenson . Worcester—Robert Hardy , H . Stone , C . Sharpe , and ¦ ¦ ¦ '¦ J . Hawkins . .. ' ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ' ..- , . ¦ ¦¦ . ; ¦ .., - . ¦ . ' ¦ ¦ ¦ ' •¦ Woodbridge—J . F . Taylor . We 8 tbury—W . Taylor and J . Collins . Wooton-under-Edge—J . Butler . - ¦ West Kilbride—J . Eames and J . Gibbons . Wooldale—J . Hobson and the Rev . W . Hill .
A person here presented himself at the table and announced himself as a delegate from London ; but stated that he believed his credentials had been withholdenby the Chairman of the public meeting whiob elected , him and consequently would not be forthcoming . We did hot catch the name . The Se « RETART announced that all the credentials which had been received , were upon the table . Of course the Council could not take any notice of mere newspaper reports . Mr . Hobson said that a novel case had arisen , which would require to be dealt with . A delegate offered himself to take bis seat , who stated that he had been duly elected at a public meeting , but that the Chairman of the meeting had withheld his credentials for the purpose of depriving him of his seat . What steps were the Conference to take to remedy such a defect as that ? i Mr . H . Vincent , of London , suggested the appointment of a committee to consider the disputed cases .
Mr . Parr * , of London , proposed the following reso lution— " That a committee , consisting of the following gentlemen , shall decide on the admission or rejection of such persons as shall present themselves for admission to this Conference about whose election there may be any dispute : —Mr . Newton , Mr . Booker , Mr . Roberts , Mr . Wilkinson , Mr . Moir , Mr . Follows , and Mr . Robineon . " In moving this resolution Mr . Parry expressed himself of opinion that the decision of the committee should not be founded upon mere technical objections , but ou the principles of common senBe , and that construction wbioh an enlightened judgment of all the circumstances of the case would furnish . Mr . Crawford seconded the motion .
The Rev . W . Hill was of opinion that the number to constitute the committee should be now settled , bnl that the names of the persona should Deleft , not to any body of individuals , but to the Conference itself . He proposed , as an amendment , " That a committee of nine persona be now appointed to : whom the examination of all disputed elections , and all application for admission , for which no credentials may have b « en received , shall be committed . " , ' The amendment was seconded by Mr . Hobson . . Mr . Vincent thought the question was one | of | oon > fliderable importance . When the Committee was appointed , be thought they ought not to allow individuals whose elections were supposed to be illegal to take thete seats in the Conference—( hear , hear , and no , no ) .
Mr . Parrt thought that the Committee must be guided by th * rules under which the Conference was originally formed . They could not set up a role of theif own and admit parties who had no credentials to pro * sent—( bear , hear ) . Mr . Vickers , Balper , considered it extremely desirable that the elections should be perfectly legal , otherwise parties might find their way into the Conference m spies , and in no other character —( hear , bear ) . The Secretart thoaght that uo notice shoold be taken by the Committee of any . objections to elections which were not protested against by the inhabitants of the places < whence the delegates purported to come . Mr . Miall also supported this view . Mr . Dixon said that it had come to his knowledge that there , were parties in the building waoJhad never been elected by a publlo meeting —( heaj /^ ai ) . Of course , the inhabitants not knowing anything about such elections could not protest againt them—( hear , heat ) .
Mr . DtNCAN wished to say that if there waste be the invidious distinction of lists , he had a serious ob--jection to make to nnmbor one . He stood there as tho only legal representative of Arbroath , and yet he was placed in list No . 3 , and men who had never been elected at all were placed in No . 1 —( hear , hear ) . A Delegate stated that there were Bix towns in which objections had been made , ana be knew one in * dividual who had made objections which would sham every Christian and Englishman —( laughter ) . Tbe Rev . Mr . Swann objected to the invidiousdi « - tinctiou of lists , because he thought it looked too mueh like aristocracy . He thought they ought to guard against anything which might have the appearance of gIsjbj legislation ^—( hear , hear ) . After considerable discussion , the amendment wap put and carried by a large majority . Tbe Conference then proceeded to the nomination of parties to constitute the committee .
After about twenty persons had been nominated by different parties , the Chairman said he had no wish to fetter their proceedings , but he wauld put it to them whether they'had enough of nominations to select frouf He feared much time would be occupied in voting foe ao many , and he hoped , therefore , that unless some one had a particular wish for some ' . person not yet nominated to be on the Committee , they would as soon a * possible devtee some means of electing the nine from the number proposed . V v The Rev . Wmj Hill proposed— "That the name of the respective parties nominated ou the Committee be put into a hat , and put to the meeting , in the order in which they are drawn out , and that the nine persons having the most votes be tbe Committee . " Mr . J . Hobson seconded the motion .
The Rev , Patrick Brewster moved , that the following gentlemen be the Committee : —Bev . T . Swann , Mr . T . HiU , Mr . J . H . Parry , Rev . W . Robinson , Mr . W . Hollis ; Mr . C Booker , Mi . Jk ^ K . Philp , Mr . Johs Cluer , and Mr . James Williams . - Mr . AlbWOHT seconded tbe motion . ThiB motion was followed by much disappiobattos from almost the entire meeting ; it being contended that the parties to be ohosen as the Committee , ought to emanate from the Conference generally , and not from an - individual- Most of the delegates proposed by Mr . BrewBter , refused to be elected ^ in such a manner . Mr . Bbbwsteb was here asked whether he would withdraw his proposition , and that gentleman having replied in the negative , ;
Mr . O'Connor said hehad no alternative but to propose a counter liat , and the names fee should offer to tbeyotice of the Conference were—Rev . W . Hill , Mr . Joshua Hobson , Mr . W . P . Roberts , Mr . James Moir , Mr . J . Colquhoun , Mr . G . White , Mr . Thomas Davis , Mr . Thomas Kidd , and the Rey ., 'T . Swann . A Delegate secondedjthe nomination . the Rev . Dr . Wade , the Rev . T . Swann , and many ether Complete Suffrage Delegates condemned the course adopted by Mr . Brewster , and recommended him to withdraw his proposition . An amendment was proposed by Mr . T . Thompson , of Sunderland , and secended by Mr . J . Mitcheii , " That the names of the persons nominated be put into a hat and that the first nine drawn out by the Chairman be the Committee . "
A stormy discussion followed , which ended by Mr . Brewster agreeing to support the amendment of Mz . Thompson . The two lists were then withdrawn and the Conference went to the vote as between the amendment and the original resolution . Mr . O'Connor and Mr . Lovett were appointed tellers ; and the number for the amendment was 118 , and for tha original motion 147 . The amendment , therefore , wig lo * t , and Mr . HUl-s motion oarrted . , Aftar the decision of this question , the CcmfennM rose at tear o ' eloek « nta six , » vote of thanks havfaas beenpr © viowlyniov © dtotb * CbA | rman f ^ during the proceedmgs . ,
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Northern Star (1837-1852), Dec. 31, 1842, page 1, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct784/page/1/
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