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      SOUTH LANCASHIRE DELEGATE MEETING . fj ^ :. rnpgvi- g WM held in theChartiit Room , Brown stre * - - M ; . nche «' . er , en Sue-Jay las :, wheu Lhe fj-iowini de ! frg- --6 = ~ cT * present : — " T , •_ , ! £ Rii : ton . Cfcartir t carpenterr sn . ' . j- > : ner « , Mai ) che-- " " -r : P . ter Cameron Chartist pointers Msnchea ter - " -in Sutcliffe , RocMale ; Henry Chap ' . e . OWham 33 jn- iiiajjsos , AsbU > u-ifi-Lynej-Ih <> in *» Lirae , Muss ley ; Uaac Irberwoud , rlstciifi-= ; Jchc Pul ^ n , C .. r ptBtrfi' Hsli , SISUChfeStcT ; Join ilaSStJ . XtrWtuI Ees " .:. -, Eiwin Clt-ngh , H ; Uin-wo . Hi ; — M'Far ine Salf-r .: ; J \ mes D ' jzon , m = cQ ^ iiic » , Manchester ; Her woo - n-i B- ^ ry by letter . Mr Riiitoa iras ciliei to tie chair . Thr m : i : c * -5 of the previous meeting havir . g bs-e : ress ; n ^ confirmed , the fallowing ¦ were pa : d in hy thi dilr , " . teS : —

      FOP . THS EXECUTIVE . £ s . d . ( ir } asters sc-5 J ^ urrs , Manchester 0 4 0 Y . . ni = r =, Manchester 0 2 0 j . chia ' . e .. ... 0 2 fl £ 0 S 6 I-ZCTTEEItS' FUND- FOR IS . ELJLND . Cirpsniers and Joiners , iLmcher 6 12 t" j-i-rzters' Hall , ditto « ... ... 0 2 S < , _ a rt 5 t Pointers , ditto ... ... 0 0 5 / sbtoc-nader-Lyne .... 0 0 6 K ,-cfc 2 aJe ... .. " . ... ... 0 0 5 : i o » d .- ... " ... o o 6 i . . tihfe - . ... .. 0 0 £ £ J 6 0 SOBTH LAi"CASHIHE LECrtaZBS' FOD . : wptnteis' Ball , ilajichester " ... £ 10 0

      il- Pri-Liv Eaid that he -was instruct ^ bring befcrc ttr delegates the dissatisfaction that prevailed n-no ? - > -r the local lecturers on account cf the manner in "Wiric \ jam' : nf tie places paid thtm-f .-r fic-r sfcrvices . two : i&e ? iri particular , viz . Newton Heath and Hollin ? - ^ roo i . The former of these places only gave the lecb : --T nicepecce , and if it was wet the coscb f . re was ash : icg . The Istt-er p ; Lca gave them one sh ; ii ^ g and thrci ; = ~ Cc , aad the ccach fare waa one shiLirir - » nd sixpeuc— And they thought that this -vras not sufficient ; at t - ' -= & si to- ejach fare ought to be -paid . The delegate .- f . om tiosr places were requested to inform tbeir cqev uinis of these complaints , in order that the evil Tnig- ¦ hertmiiied .

      M : Knight stated , that at a meeting of the South Lai : c :-iiirr DxUgBtzB , 31 r . Riiltoa wa '« elected t-o be a j uem ' -. Tof toe IXsfencs Fond Gonfmittte . And that gent ! - urn having resigned for particular Ttasccs , it wciil therefore be their duty to elect another in his p ! = c-. li- - Hailtin explained . He beib ? one of the parties who -void £ l » t 6 to be defended by that fun-1 , he therefore c old Eot conscientionsly rem-. iyi a member of the con ; : . tt ^ e for its m-ii ^ enieiit . t > 3 . Pulli > ' moved snd Mr . CiMEE 0 > " seconded the f l ° 'wii- < motion : — " 1 . . nt . > ir Richard Hj . 11 be elected member of the Kat . ~ . ii D =: etce Faiid Committee , in the place of Mr . Kail " . ; , resigned . " Ci . - -sd Tmacimouslr- " .

      II -. > l-rA 2 . Li > -E Etated that he thought the delegs ± e ~ tr » 5 tn : onghi to exaaiine intothe balance ECaet of t :.-: Executive . He (> Ir . J '* FarliD . ei was placed in rather an awkward pjsinon , inssmjith as Silford had not p ? id anything lo th = JEiccative for the list qnarter ; EevcT aeless he considerta it to be his dmy as a delegate to b ' .-ftg : be matter before them , for he must say that a grea " . . icocnt of dissatisfactiun existed amengst his constim-a-s at present , and they with him thought that Ecm- f-. nttr expiration -w&s necesfaiy , than had yet beeD rh-eii . He . Mr . > J * Farlict ) -was glad to see one of ti " r Esecnave prfe * fcE ; , as that gentleman perhaps wot : ! throtr some light upon thetubject . 3 ir Lsach iiad come to give all the explanation in his p . -er , it necessary . B ; . j delegate—It appears thst the plan of <« rgan : zition ? - - - net been atrenried to by ths Executive in the legist-aiio .. dftpaitment .

      Mi Ltach scid that tm cot the Expcntive's fanlt Ont . : " sixty-nine places that they corresponded vrith fort ; :: i ^ e out A that cumberobject ^ d to sending the nav-r- O . > lha . ni csme to an open vote upon the subject : > , d decided that they -would not comply -with the ¦ wiaht = jf the £ xtcativd in th 3 t respect ; also Leicester that t- « adding 500 nicmbera per"weik , did not send the r-i'r . a of one to tbe Executives and yet the delegates •{ that place could end faaiB-mth the secretary for E- * d * ing that which they themselves had neglected to suptly him ¦ with the means of doin * . 3 ! r I 5 HER . TTO 0 D , said they had sent the names of all their members to Mr . Tiilman . 11- LiACH—True ; but ont o * 25 , 000 members thsre Was . niv 3 . 0 returned .

      ilr jIFarline eaid , that that- was not tbe question a-, isfue . It appeared that there -were iteaas in tbe Balance Sheet which vere , in ai 3 opinion , objectionable —of whieh th 3 t coneernir . g pnstage ¦ wag oEe ^—and sccor ^ iiu ; to Mr . Hill , it -would lake twenty-four letters per .- -. Mr . Kailtox had known him freqnently hsve to vrrit- i : tj at : i sixty ief . ers per day , ¦ and ilr . Rankin mor < - tzar , th-it . Mr . il Faehlise said , thst they , as delegates , if tiej T"un 1 ; ba > tterr oSccts did coi do their duty , it \ ms l-cir du : ;\ is theii cflr . stiments . to call upon thfem to d" > o ; snd in his ( Mr . ii'Farline ' 8 ) opinion , the Exe < i : Tive had enough to do to attend to the duties of that £ 5 a , withoat attending to anything else . 2 ir Leach—Ton see we are -placed betwixt two fires— one parry finding fault that we are not constantly

      sitt'r . ^ . and the other blaming ns for expending the peop * money by sitting too often . Bat these charges we w-.: l mcHrt in their proptr " quarter , . although we do not -iaact thit jastica which we deserve . So far as he ( ilr . Ltsefc ; w ^ s psrEOcalij concenied , he never -was b job'r . r . g p ^ lUidan , and ha knew that he was not cspatle of meeting his antagonist through the columns of & nt *« aiper ; but he would challenge him to meet ^ iim ( Mr . l ^ ich ' - bt ' ore a public meetis ?; -the people should b ? tr-jary before which fie shouid be tried ; and be ( ilr . lr »^ chi wanied to meet Mr HUleither mJjbeis or any . r ^ ei town were he ( Mr . Leacb ) was kn * wn , and meet auy charses thit might be brought against him . He ( Mr . Leaeb ) considered thai hisnSoral character was imy- ---bed in the Star cf last Week , and also in that of Satr . r .. aj i&st , and if be had to walkbaiefuot , the people -h juid condeina him or acqaii him from the ' eharga of B'orsl sdj -poUtical dishoiieity .

      Mr M FiiLiXE said that the powers of the Rev . \ Tm H-. il were such that if not checked , he ( Mr . Hill . mig ; : >^ o 3 er--At deal «? f harm ic the movement . Sir . Davis considered the eomments in the two last £ Li .- :. » Ik- serere ia tfce extreme . iir . Pullix—That man that wonld not give every other m 1 : 1 tbe same chance of defence as be bimseif poss ^^ i , wss unworthy of the natce of a man or a demcx :-- ^ - Mr . Isheb ^ ood thought that the only way foi them to arrive at proper conclusions was \ o have tbe Brt .. c -n-i- \ froHi the Star of Saturday last , and then ilr . Lfsoh could explain . ilr R . ulto >" , the chairaan , then read the article in th- Star of Saturday , KbV . _ 26 : h , headed " The Execut : Tr , licJr balance sheet , and the organisation . "

      > : r . I . EAC 3 said that Mr . Htil stated tna ; the Execnuvc was a fixed body , sitting in a fixed place . That he iMr . L-sch . denied ; it was eo such fix-ri bv >( fy ; and thai MiEchester -was the plsce ftr their Eittings ; and it such was the case , and that there was co tnTrT-rg cxv-e-ces , why djd'they- not elect the whule ¦ of tie members from ilanGh-.-ster ? Did tbe people not ksow that when they ? elected Morgan Williams that fee resided in Wa ' . es ; atri , in order that he ni'iht meet the other members cf tho Executive , it VoeI . 1 cust £ - iu co ^ ch tsie ; aad , did they believe \ rhen th-. y elected him , that he was to pay that sum oat of his SC-s . per week I They 3 lso knew that Mr Phiip resided ia Bath , aid it . cost Pbiip £ 3 in coach-fare to attend tbe . r £ rst meeting , mud vhe sime sum to return ; 3 nd did the ptroplc ' exuect

      him ti . pay that mm out « , f , t ' ue thirty shiiiinga per week ? D . " . M Djuall was in London wh ; E elected , and the country knew this , ard knowiri ^ it they kuew that if they must meet their traveJIins expencrs must be paid , ilr . Lr ^ ich then said be woaid pui them in possession of a fact or two rhsi they did not know . The ExseutiTe tad known cf this plot for some time . ilr . Hill is & councillor of HuiL In tbe month of July las : the Bui : Chartists were about to pass the Balance Sheet , trhea Mr Hill entered the ro ^ m and put & stop to it . And a friend that was present at-that meeting wrote to Campbell stating that there was a pltt hatching aiainst the members of the Esscuuve , of which he would receive the arst attack in a short time . In Leeds also there was a conspiracy of the same ' n&ture . A mrettag of tec or a dc » sa men tcok place , whtre they ithe

      members of the Executive i were aisposed of and a new one formed . A person present at tiiat mee . ing wrote to him , ; M > . Leach' EiriDg him information of their whole transactions , aad also the names of the men who were i * form ths new Executive ^ Their names were Cooper , "White , Haraey , Bairstow , and Skeviegton ; so being in possession of those facts this is only what \ re expected . We received Mveral invitationa fco go to Birminghaia ; we ir » nt Kid remain&d ther * « : ght days . IVe drew np the National Petition there and issued two or three aiidreues to the comntty . We also attended » eTen or eight public nreeting *—paid one * toe—and left them not lew than £ 30 in hand . We itopped altogether at an inn , aad 6 « orge White told

      ms that the council would pay for our board ! but the ouncil cama to a Tote that as we had the public funds at our dispwal , they would not giTe n « a farthing . George White came and told u this ic the morning ; ¦ we had no money with m , andin a strange pbice . This ire teld White , and he went to the Council ; but it was to fio use ; the consequence was th&t two of the members of the Executive h » d to pledge their watches to raise coney t * get home . They then told the landlord their situatica , sad gave him -what m ^ ney they had , and had to send him the remainder when they got fcome . * He , Mr . Leach , "had had seTera . invitations to go to Hull , and when he was going to London , he thought that he would call at a few" places in order to

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      m .-ke tbe exp . nce lew , and he wouM go round by Hull . Ht di . i po . and when he arrived there he found himsrlf ly < minus of the Fum he had when he started froHi home . At Hull they gave him nothing at all , and if he had ma had money with him he would hav& been obliged lo come back home . The last week but one he went to Leeds , and it cogt him s-vf > a fhillings to ride in the third class from Manchesur tc theri \ aod be paid six frriu Leeds to Kocb-•" ale , wbtre he should have lectured , but being very ill he Vircifd off , and paid one shilling to ride home

      that was Hi ; he was away three days , and it cost him 7 s . for me&t and lodgings , that wm 21 s . ; they gs . T « him 10 s and he retnrned home at tbe three days' end with Hi -Jess than he hid when he started , for his wife snii sr . x children ; and then must be calWd a jobbins poir . Jtisn . TVhen I was at Leeds I bid some conversation wilh Mr . Hill coix ^ -rning a man hi tho movement , whose wife lives cot far from this piace . and he is leading a common prostitute about the country with him . ; lr . Hill asked me whas was to be done ? I ssid lirir * him frnm ths ranks . Mr . Hili thought it would

      not bt advisable to do bo , as in a short time a grtat ¦ nuniber of the advocates would be in prisen , and the move : ii = n ; wonld want all the asiisiaiici- that could be £ Jt . I thocght that wss the very reason that we should ' . drivi snch scamps as him from atnongst us . VYben , ' tie fc-nest frierids of the people wt-re locked np—the ; greater tbe necessity of the few that remained at larsa j being unimpeachable in their mor ^ l character . But j Mr . Hill thought if it could be ktpt quiet it wonld be ! better . I said that that was impossible , as -Mx different riistrieta had already exposed him—and yet at the very time t ' E ^ t be was taiking to me thus he had an article f « rot < - & . damn four of as . But this is a deadly biow at ¦ D - v D ,, aalJ—it is intended to damn him—but it shall

      I no : ; Deiure it shall h 3 fe its desired effect , I will suffer [ to have my head cut off upon a block . I wish the ' DiWtor was here , he wonld not need my puny defence ; bat knowing that he is worthy of it . I will not suffer him to be irjnred when he has not the chance of defending himself . I will now explain the Doctor's ten shillings per week . We drafted him to London to organize the trades , and knowing that it was nioio expensive dining in London than here , we thought the extra ten shillings would not be too much ; but I am not going to defend this act of the Executive , but this I wili say , it was done -with the btst of motives—and I deny the assertion of Hill that it was a piece of political joM . uwf .

      Mr . Pcllix wished to ask Mr . Leach a question concerning the payment of the members of the Executive—did they , the in&mbers of the Executive , receive their pay each week sitting or not ? Mr . " Leach—No . Mr . IsheRWOOD conld liie to know something about the especers of Mr . Bairstew going to see bia wife when * be was sick . Mr . LeaCH—Mr . Bairstow was in Manchester attending tbe sittings of the Executive , when he ( Mr . Leach , ) received a letter from Bairstow's fatber-in-law , with one enclosed for him . He came and Ehevred me the letter containing the intelligence of his wife ' s sickness . He ( Mr . Leach ) lent him a sovereign to start off with . Now Bairstiw had to go to Bristol , and it was on his way to call at Loughborongh to see his wife . The extra expence wnu ' . d be very trifling . Mr . Cameron—Mr . Hill says something about Bairstow's expences to tbe Conference .

      2 dr . Leach in answer to this said , that Jt would be in their recollection that the Executive was to meet that Conference , and a * Mr . Bairstow had to attend as a member of the Executive , the people of that locality thonght that he could represent them in the Conference So that they would see that Mr . Bairstow attended as a member of tbe Executive , ar . d not as a delegate to the Conference . An < i as they were on the Conference question , he might as well state that the vote given to the Executive was given withoat any conditions being attached thereto ; and Mr . Cooper was the man who proposed it . This was corroborated by Mr . Bailton aad MrfMi-ssey . Mr . Isberwood said as far as he was concerned , be was satisltd with the explanation given by Mr . Leach , but be thought that they could not come to a vote upon the ques : ion until they bad taken the opinion of their constituents upon it

      3 Ir . P » LLI > " thonght tbat they conld go as far with the question , as th-jy were individually concerned , and come to a vote to that effect Mr . M'Fae . i . i > "E was satisfied with Mr . Leach ' s explanation , but at tbe ssme time he understood that gentleman only to be vindicating his own character , and not the whole ef the acts of the Executive ; and although Mr . Campbell was one of their members , there was in his ( Mr . 31 'Fariine ' s ) opinion great cause for dissatisfaction at the manner in which Mr . Campbell had conducted the business cf the association as their secretary . He therefore thonght that it would be much better not % o coma to a vots , but let the matter rest until the next delegate meeting , for if they cama to a vote in Mr . Leach ' s case , and not in that of the other members of the Executive , it would be tantamount to clearing him and condemning the others . MR LeaCH—We are appealing through the Star .

      Mr . Pulli . n could like to give his candid opinion He bad kno'wn Mr . Lsach for many years , and had always found him to be a man of fcterling worth and strict integr . ty , Mr . Massey was of opinion that as they had taken up the subject , ar . d had heard Mr . Leach ' s explanation , they ought to come to a vote upon the matter , so far as the Seuth Lancashire delegates were concerned . Mr . Ishebwood begged to say , that he differed with the last speaker , and thought it advisable that tbe delegates shonld take what they had back to those that sent theni there , and Jet them decide . Moved by ilr . MFarline , and sacondei by Mr . Isherwood , — '' That each delegate at bis return lay before his constitntnts the information that he has received at this meeting , and come prepared to the text delegate meeting to give their decision upon this matter . ' Carried unanimously .

      Moved by Mr . Isherwood , and seconded by Mr . Simpson , " That Mr . Railton do provide a minute and acconipt book far the South Lancashire delegates . " Carried . Mr . M-farline moved and Mr . Lange seconded , — ( i That Mr . Dixon be secretary until the next meeting . " The meeting was then adjourned until that day four weeks , at ten o ' clock in the forenoon .

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      MANCHESTER . Carpenters' Hall . — Two lectures were delivered in the above HaU on Sunday last ; in the afternoon , Mt . J . Murrey was called to the chair , who opened the meeting with a few remarks npon the present position of the Chartist movement , and introduced ilr . C . D : > yle to the meeting . Mr . C . Df ? jle delivered an interesting and instructive lecture and was repeatedly cheered by tbe audience . In the evening , on the motion of Mr . Knight , Mr . Murrey was again caiied to preside . Mr . Murrey thanked the meeting for the honour they had conferred upon him by calling him to preside over so large and respectable a meeting of his fellow townsmen as the present , at the same time he would much rather some one more competent than himself had been called to fill the chair . But there was one observation which he would

      make , and that was , that to be a chairman of a Chartist meeting was to have a sinecure office , with this exception , there was no pension attached to it Without taking up any more of their time he would introduce their old friend , Mr . James Leach . Mr . Leach rose amid the plaudits of tbe vast assembly , and said that he supposed they were in high spirits and full of glee at hearing the new 3 of peace with China , and in the expectation of being made rich out of the money thit we were to have from that inoffensive people , for giving over murdering them ; and , according to tbe press , to be made doubly rich by an increase of our trade with that country . The papers were now teeming with our glorious victories over a people that never knew how ta flint , a people that were not in possession of such instruments of torture and destruction as

      we are . Mr . Lesch then read Eome extracts from Hobson ' s Poor Mai ' s Companion , which showed what the game of war had cost the people of this country , and also showed up from the same source the fallacy of the people ever being benefitted by the extension of commerce . Mr . Leach delivered an instructive and interesting lecture , at the conclusion of which he called the attention of the meeting to the articles that had appeared in rhe papers , by saying tot doubtless they had read the articies in the St * r , of the last and the present week concerning the Executive . He , with the other members of that body , -were branded as political jobbers . He ( Mr . Leach ) was sure that those that knew him would at least give him credit for not being -one -who ever made a jobbin ? coccerr . of the people's cau > e- But the sum and substance of this

      attack upon the Executive was a deadly tkrust at the political character of Dr . M'Douall ; but if the Doctor was here , be would not requir * his ( Mr . Leach ' s ) defence , for he cou ' id defend himself ; but it was too bad to attack him when he was in exile for the people ' s cause , and he hoped that the working men of England would not say a word upon the matter until he was here to defend htmseif , and it would not be long before he was amongst them again for that parpose , and until that time he hoped they would be silent The Doctor deserved this at the hands of the people , for whom he bad suffered so much . He ( Mr . Leach ) was well acquainted with Dr . M'Donall , both publicly and privately , and there was not a more honest m-ia in existence . He ( Mr . Leach ; knew him when he kept as good a horse as any man in Lancashire , and he had known him without sixpence in his pocket or a coat to his back . He had known him when he had not a

      dinner for himself or hii wift and child , and he ever found Mm tbe same undaunted advocate of the People " ! rights . A » for myself and the charge of political jobbing , I will defend myself in the proper { tarter . Not that I consider mjself competent to write an articU in a newspaper , but I will challenge my calunnlstor to meet me before the people , if I travel witkomt shoes to Leeds for tbat purpose , . Three Taarj ago he ( Mr . Leach ; worked in a factory not more than three stones throw from the place whera he stood . At that time he and his family were jetting on an average fifty shillings per week i and he lost that situation for daring to expose the Factory System in that very room . It was not for himself that he was then working , but for those poor creatures that were working for six and ., SeVei ; shillings per week . Mr . Ltaeh then taid , there was a great deal of noise abont the shop that he kept It never was a pound of his money that put him in that

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      shop ; no , it was bis friends who Rave him a small sum to start with , and other * lent him the money ; some of which he bad paid back , and some he bad yut to nay . It was not from what ha had made oat of tho CbartUt agitation that he commenced business . Others aid tbat he get the money out of the dirty Whig * , aud more , that it came from bribes from the Tories . He i Mr . Leach ) thought it bad enough to find the whole of the Whig an « i Tory press giving unfair reports , and bounding the Government upon them ; but when their own friends adopted the same line of policy , he thought it was too bad . Mr . Leach then said , that there was not a town in the county bat he had vlaiUd ; and the people would bear him out in the statement be was goivg to make . When they gave him money be gave them it back , and ratber than pnt them to the expt-nce of finding lodings , he walked home in tbe wet . Mr . Leach then said , bis conduct was before them , and be

      ¦ would leave it with them to judge bow far , he was deserving of the title of a paltry politician . He hoped that the people would avoid dissensions and bickerings that are tearing us asunder ; by doing so they carry terror into the enemiM camp . If , on the other hand , they allowed themselves to be split up into sections they would become an easy prey to their oppressors , whose motto was divide and conquer . Mr . Le-ich , on retiring , was loudly cheered . Mr . Knight moved , and Dr . Hnlley seconded , the following resolntion : — " Tbat this meeting returns their thanks to Mr . Leach for the very able lecture he has delivered , and expenses confidence in him as an honest politician . " C \ rried unanimously amid thundering cheers . Dr . HuIIc-y moved , and was seconded by two or three voices in the body of the hall— " That the thanks and confidence of this meeting be given to Dr . M'Douali , " which being put from the chair was carried nem . con ., followed by repeated rounds of applause .

      HOLfaXNWOOD . — On Sunday evening last the association roam , Ralph Green , was densely crowded by a respectable audience to hear a lecture from Mr . Christopher . Doyle , of Manchester . Before the lecturer arrived Mr . Thomas Cooper's letters concerning the unfortunate victim Eilis were read from the Star , which created feelings of indignation in the breasts of those present , at the cruel and unjust sentence of this victim of class mad 6 laws . —Mr . Doyle gave an able and interesting lecture on " the present existing distress , the cause of tbat distress , and the remedy . " He drew an affecting picture of the distress now so prevalent among the wealth-producing class of this country , showed in a clear and convincing manner , that the cause of that distress was class-legislation , and concluded by calling upon his hearers to agitate for the Charter as the only remedy for national grievances . Tbe lecturer was loudly cheered throughout his address , and gave great satisfaction . A vote of thanks was given to the lecturer , and the meetins separated ,

      CARLISLE . —On Sunday evening last , the members of the Carlisle Debating Society held their usual wockly meeting at their rotm , No . 6 , Johv .-street . Caldewgute , when , in tba absence of other business the leading articles of the Northern Slar , of Saturday last , were road over , and commented upon . On Sunday evening nest , a very animated di ^ ussion is i xpected to take place on the very important question , " are mankind progressing towards a happier state of human existence V Any person not being a member may attend one night gratis , if introduced by a member , or by paying a small subscription , be may attend each evening . This society has

      been got up and established for tfee mutual benefit and instruction of its members , and those who may think proper to attend . Several valuable works have already been presented to the society , consisting of the entire works of Colonel Perronet Thompson , in six volumes The report of the Poor Law Commissioners , " on the sanitary condition of the working classes . '' The Jarge volumes of reports and evidence , " on persons engaged in mines , " and some other works , besides the Northern Star , and some other newspapers . The room is open every Sunday for the accommodation of the members , Any works on politics or genersl literature , or newspapers will be thankfully received by the members .

      Case op Mr . Arthur . —It appears that , though this gentleman escaped when examined before the magistrates of Manchester , in consequence of the miscreant Griffin not being able to identify him ; yet his name was ineiuded in the " True Bill" fonnd by the , # rand Jury at Liverpool , during the sitting of the special commission there ; so that a bench warrant was Issued for his apprehension , though not put into execution , in consequence of the cases DeSDg removed to tbe Court of Queen ' s Bench . Mr . Arthur , anxious to give himself up , wrote to Mr . Maule , solicitor to the crown , espressina his determination to eive himself up , or procure sufficient and satisfactory bail for bis appearance . In

      answer to this application , a letter was sent by Messrs . Gregory and Sons , to Mr . George Gill Mounsey , late mayor of the borough , to the efftct that a bench warlant was inclosed for Mr . Arthur ' s apprehension , but if an appearance was immediately pot in for him by his clerk in London , the bail would be waived altogether . This has all been complied with , so tbat Mr . Arthur is now at liberty ULtil the assizes , when we fear not , should be called upon , that he will , with all others involved in the same charge , be honourably acquitted : for we cannot conceive that a jury of virtuous , honest men , can possibly find men guilty on such paltry evidence .

      The General Defence Fund . —We understand that many and great exertions have been made here and by tbe adjoining districts to aid in this necessary and laudable undertaking ; and we have no doubt , if these exertions are continued , that Carlisle and neighbourhood , will stand , as it has hitherto done , proudly pre-eminent in the good work . While we make these observations , we would respectfully suggest to tbe present Couucil of the Chartist Association , the necessity of still further extending their labours ; for we know of many persons who are good Chattists at heart , though they do net come forward at public meetings , who are not only willing , but most anxious to assist in a pecuniary point of view , in supporting thoBe persons who Ere at present involved in prosecutions for the part

      they have taken in endeavouring to forward the cause of the working classes of this country . Let collectors be appointed for each district , of the town , to call upon tbe shopkeepers and higher classes , who are at all favourable to tbe cauBe , and we have no doubt but a very considerable eum might speedily be raised . Sixpence or a shilling is less ts a middle class man than a penny to a poor hand-loom weaver . Remember that on a former occasion , about twelve persons collected upwards of twenty pounds amongst this very same class to whom we have been alluding , in ONE DAT . Let the celleotors thus appointed be sober , discreet , and well-behaved persons , who are generally respected , and we have no fear of a much larger ssra being secured in this way in one day , than wouid be otherwise procured by tbe ordinary weans in three months .

      LONDON . —" Metropolitan Delegate Meeting . —This meeting was held on Sunday afternoon , at 5 b , Old Bailey , Mr . J . Humphries in the chair . Credentials were received from Mr . J . Humphries , from Somerstown ; Mr . M Frederick , from the shoemakers , Golden-lane ; Mr . White , from the Flora Tavern , Islington ; and from Mr . Horlges , from Croydon ; -Mr . Dron reported from the defence fund committee regarding the caBe of Mr . Bentool . Mr . Wheeler moved" That tbe delegate meeting recommend Mr . Bentootas a proper person to be assisted at his forthcoming trial , and that his case be represe : ted to the General Treasurer . " Mr . Simpson seconded the motion and explainao the peculiar circumstances connected with the case , and the treacherous part which a sbopraate of the prisoner and his wife had acted in delivering him up to Mr .

      Anderson , the constable of Macclesfield , and the peculation of that officer in causing tbis -woman to give him a receipt for a greater amount of blood-money than- he bad paid for betraying the abode of the above named victim . Mr . Dron reported from the Observation Committee regarding the conduct of an advocate of ChaTtisni in the metropolis , and his credentials as a lecturer were referred for discussion until the ensuing Sunday . Two shillings and sixpence was receivudfrom the Cirpenter ' s Arms , one shilling from the Three Doves for the delegate meeting ; Messrs . Martin aud Knight reported regarding the conduct of certain parties in Finsbury in reference to tbe Conference ; various reports were also received from other localities and from some members of the committee meeting in John-street , Adelphi . Mr . Lucas moved and Mr . Simpson seconded

      an address calling upon the country in general and the metropolis in particular to support the Evening Star . Mr . CuffUy moved and Mr . Whesler seconded an amendment referring tbe address to a committee for revision !; the original motion was withdrawn , and Messrs Wheeler , Lucas , and Cuffay appointed for that purpose . Mi . Dron Waa elected a member of the Finance Committee , in place of Mt . NjikIb resigned s and Messrs . Jones and Rose were elected on the Observation Committee . Mr . Cuffay moved and Mr . Mudge seconded the following resolution : — "That each delegate immedateiy call upon the locality he represents to instruct the Hib-Stcretary to nominate general councilmen to tho JfalioEa ! Charter Association , and transmit their names to the Xorlheni Star forthwith . The meeting then adjourned .

      Montpelier Tavern . —From the statement of accounts of the tea parties which have been held at tliis place , it appears that at the first , the receipts ( including 7 s , not paid ) were £ 10 53 . 6 d ., tbe expenses £ 10 Is . 6 d ., and the net profits is . At the second party the receipts ( including £ 1 16 s . 8 d . not paid ) were £ 10 7 s . 6 d ., theexpenses £ 9 15 s . 2 d . and the profits 12 a . id . We have already stated that we have not room for the full details of these affairs ; we should require a dally Star were we to insert all we receive ; we theiefore leave all out The subscribers must satisfy themselves from the treasurer . Conference Committee . —This committee assembled on Friday evening , in John-street , Adelphi , Mr . Maynard in the chair . After the minutes had been

      read and confirmed , Mr . Kit resigned and explained the reasons which induced him to it Mr . Neesom also resigned , stating his reason to be the refusal of the committee to recommend that the meeting for election of delegate * should be simultaneous , which subject had never been brought before the committee . Mr . Fussell stated that he had been most unfairly dealt with by the committee of which Mr . Elt was a member , and had been refused admission as a member on the old and oft disproved charge ef his being a spy . Mr . Watts reported that ont of nearly seventy members of the committee got up by the seceder * in Finsbury , only five were members of the National Charter Association . The Conmitee for Finsbury were then instructed to proceed in a similar manner , as though counter committees had not been

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      formed . Reports were received from tho other boroughs , and Mr . Kidluy and Mr . Dron moved and seconded a resolution , recommending candidates of the various sections of Reformers being nominated , that each partiealar opinion might be fairly represented . After some other business , the meeting adjourned until Sunday morning , where after reports had been received , the following resolutions were carried , having previously elicited considerable discussion , * . * That it is the opinion of this committee that all parties of Reformers should be fully and fairly represented at the forthcoming Conferenco ; we , therefore , recommend the City and

      Borough Committees to give every facility and assistance to candidates of all parties . " "That this Committee recainmenfi to the Borough and Ciiy Committees to promote arrangements to ensure the representation of the different sections of reforms in the proportion of sixteen to the National Charter Association , six to the Metropolitan Parliamentary .. Reform or Complete Suffrage Association , and six to the National Association , " " That this Committee recommend the local committees to elect t ' . ie delegates atjsiriiultaneous meetings . " The meeting then instructed its various members to form the local committees by the ensuing Wednesday , at latest , and adjourned until Friday evening .

      Gold Beaters' Arms , Somers' Tows .-Mt . Sswell lectured here on Sunday evening to a good audience . A discussion ensued , in . which Messrs . Fussell , Martin , D-jvoc , Ridley , and others , took part ; Several names were enrolled . Ma . GammagE' leutured on Sunday evening , at the Clotk House , Leicester square , to a crowded audience , and was much applauded . Mr . Skelton nlso eloquently addressed the meeting . Mr . Cuffay reported from the delegate meeting regarding the necessity of attsnd ' nt ; to tbe organization , and ' of . electing a General Council , Mr . Wheeler explained the oraaiiiistion in reference to

      the busiuess ef the evening , and , after some -little conversation , Mr . Hawkins was unanimously elected secretary to the Chartists meeting at the above bouse , in connection with tho Ladies ' shoemakers , merting previously at Foley-place . Thirteen individuals wcreelected as a Itcil committee , and were nominated by the Secretary as G-eneral Councilmen . Mr . Shackleton was nominated as treasurer ; and Messrs . Christopher , Skelton , and Shacfcleton were elected as delegates to the Metropolitan delegate . meeting . Considerable other local business was transacted , and a vote of tbasks given to Mr . Gammnge .

      MR . Farrer lectured on Sunday evetrng . to a full house , at 55 , Old Bailey . A lengthened discussion ensued . X'LEXA'NDKIA . —A meeting of the members of the Vile of Leven Universal Suffrage Association was held in the Democratic Semiaary on Saturday , Nov . 19 th , Mr . Montgomrie ) in ; the chair . The following were electedon the new conVmittee : ^— -Mr . Alexander M'Kean , chairman ; Mr . M'lufyre , vice-chairman ; Sir . James M'Intyre , s « cretary j to Whom all communication must be sent . ; Vale of Leven . —Lecturers wishing to visit this p !; ice must communicate at the least eight days with their address , otherwise their services will not be accepted . Letters addressed to Mr . George Ferguson , Alexandria , by Dumbarton .

      KINGSWOOD , near BRrsTOL . ^ -Afc our usual weekly meeting , the following resolutions were unaiiijnously adopted : — " That this meeting expresses its unqualified disgust at the conduct of Lord Abinger , at his having availed himself of his occupancy of the bench of justice to give expressions to sentiments altogether irrevelant to the matter in hand , and totally at variance with the spirit of impartiality which ousjht to characterise the address of the Judge , and this meeting also expresses its contempt of the ignorance of the intelligence of the times exhibited in Lord Abinger's address , which has so universally received the reprobation of every lover of justice . " Ten shillings have been subscribed for she victims .

      1 DEVONPORT—Dear Sir , —In looking at your address to ' the readers of the Star , which we carefully perused , - . we ' cannot but admire your straightforward manner in all tyour leading articles which the Star furnishes from time to time , and your readiness to expose any new move or traitors to the cause tbat may in any way attempt to destroy or curtail any one of the points of the People ' s Charter , -the following ; . vote of confidence was passed unanimously , " That while the Rev . Wm . Hill , Editor of the Slar , continues to exert himself by his writings , as a public journalist , in the Bama way and manner he has hitherto done , he is entitled to the warmest confidence and support of the Chartists of Devonport , bearing in mind that we are not admirer * of any man ' s person but principles , and directly he deviates from the straight-forward path , so shall we withdraw from him our confidence and support ; we therefore accord him a vote of confidence and Support "—A . CUMMINGS , Secretary .

      SHEFFIELD . ELECTION OF DELEGATES TO THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE . A meeting was held on Thursday last , in Paradisesquare , for the election of delegates to the National Conference , summoned to assemble in Birmingham on the 27 th of December next . A requisition was presented to the Master Cutler last Friday , requesting him to call tbo meeting ,: and tbat functionary declining to do so , the leqnisitionists proceeded to call the meeting themselves . Placards , of which the following is a copy , were extensively posted on Saturday evening * announcing the meeting .

      TO THE MASTER CUTLER Sir , —We , tbe undersigned Inhabitant householders of Sheffield do request you to convene a public meeting of the inhabitants of the borough at an early day , for the purpose of electing delegates to a Conference called by the Council of the Complete Suffrage Union , to be held in Birmingham on the 27 th of December next , to prepare a bill to be submitted to the legislature , embodying the principles and necessary details of a full , free , and fair representation of the people in the Commons House of Parliament ; and to determine who shall be requested to introduce such bill into the House of Commons : and , also , to dispose of other business intended to be submitted to the consideration of such' Conference . , ( Here followed the names of twenty-one householders . ) , ' ' _ ' '

      " The Master Cutler having declined to call a meeting , — -Wo the re ^ uisitionists do hereby summon such a public meeting to be holden in . Paradise-square , on Thursday next , November 24 th , at y twelve o ' clock at noon . ¦ ... ¦' " Sheffield , Nov . 19 , 1842 . " ¦ . ¦ : , ' It will be seen by the above that not the least party tinge was given to the meeting , and that every instruction of the Complete Suffrago Council was strictly complied with in the calling of the meetiug . The hour was that at which a similar meeting had proviously been held at Birmingham : the place of meeting , calculated as it is to hold above twenty thousand : persons couid

      not be packeii ; above four ( nearly five ) days clear notice of the meeting was given , all was done open and above-board ; yet with characteristic modesty the "Complete Suffragists" decided at their meeting on Tuesday evening , to have nothing to do with the proceedings , because forsooth they ( the wiseacres ) had not been consulted previous to the calling of the meeting ; further they had the impudence to issue and post round the towu , bills informing the people that any delegates that might be elected , would not represent " their interests and opinons ' . " For the edification of our readers we give the following copy ef the said notice : —

      COMPLETE SUFFRAGE . The Sheffield Complete Suffrage Union , beg to inform tbe public tcoy have taken no part in calling the public meeting to be held in Paradise-square , to-morrow ( Thursday ) , and that they do not intend to take any part in its proceedings . Any person or persons elected at that meeting , for any purpose whatever , will not be considered by them as representing their interests and opinions . By order of the Union , H . G . Rhodes , Chairman . Assembly Booms , Nov . 21 , 18-42 . Of course the requisitiouists who had summoned the meeting , treated the above precious document with the contempt it and its authors deserved , and at the hour stated in the placard'the proceedings commenced by Mr . Geo . Wright , a . working man , one of the requisitionista , being , on the motion of Air . Harney , seconded by Mr . Dyson , unanimously elected to the chair .

      The Chaianjan read the requisition calling the meeting , and the object and busintS 9 for which the Conference was convened ; and after a few remarks , called on Mr . Evinson to move the following resolution : — " That in compliance with the address of the Complete Suffrage . Union , colling a Conference to be held at Birmingham on the 27 th of December , 1842 , we do hereby elect four delegates to represent tfeo town of Sheffield in the said forthcoming Conference . " Mr . Pike seconded the resolution , which was adopted unanimously . Mr . Edwin Gill , seconded by Mr . Hoole , moved the next resolution , which was also unanimously adopted . Form of Election . —The candidates shall be separately nominated and seconded . The Chairman , after each nomination , shall inquire whether there beany other candidate .

      When all the candidates have been nominated , the names shall be taken from a bat , and in the order they are taken out , shall be put to the meeting . The candidates who are rejected shall be struck off the list . , .. - : " ¦¦ . " ' . ¦ '¦"' . ¦ ¦ . / . . " ' / ' : ' \ ' : The Chairman shall repeat the same process of putting the names until only four delegates remain upon the list , who shall be forthwith declared duly elected . . Mr . Hirney , seconded by Mr . Hoole , ( nominated R . Abbott , Esq . ' Mr . Evinaon , seconded by Mr . Moorhouae , nominated Mr . W . Beeslsy . Mr . Edwin Gill , seconded by Mr . Pike , nominated Mr . G . J . Harney . Mr . Dyson , seconded by Mr . Clayton , nominated Mt S . Parkes . :

      The Chairman then naked three times whether any other person bad any candidate to propose . No other person being proposed , tho chairman said there was v % opposition to the reAum of the four persons wto b * .

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      been nominated : but to prevent the possibility of objection , he . would now proceed to take the votes of the meeting , in the sime way that their votes would hare been taken had there been any opposition to the persons who hid been nominated . ¦ ¦ . ¦; . ,-. The names of the four candidates were then put into a hat , aud drawn in the following orler : —1 . Samuel Parkes ; 2 . Richard Abbott ; 3 . George J . Harney ; 4 . Wm . Beesley . The names were put separately , a show of hands taken for and against each candidate , and each was unanimously elected . The Cniirman said , I declare that Samuel Parkes , Richard Abbott , George Julian Harney . and William Beesley , are duly elected to represent Sheffield in ths National Conference .

      The several delegates then addressed the meeting . A vote of thanks , moved by Mr . Harney , seconded by Mr . John West , was given to the Chairman for his excellent and impartial ' conduct . The proceedings closed with three glorious cheers for the Charter and Ne Surrender . We have done our duty here in electing delegates , " as the follewirij;—the men of our choice—will show : — Richard Abbott , Esq ., elector , member of the National Charter Association . Mr . Samuel Parkes , non-eleotor , ditto . Mr . George Julian Harney , ditto , ditto . Mr . William Beesley , ditto / ditto . rive—Five la Charle !

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      NOMINATIONS FOR THE GENERAL COUNCIL . STAR COFFEE HOUSE , UNION STREET , BORO ' . Mr , Samuel Pearce , lamp-lighter , * 7 , Frier ' sstreet . Mr . Jamea Lonsdale , Coal-sack-maker , 52 , Gravel- , lane . Mr . Alfred Andrews , baker , 23 , Great GuUdford ; street . . ¦ Mr . George Waijrar , Coffee shop keeper , 76 , Unionv street , sub-treasurer . Mr . John Cooper , Engineer , 7 , James's-placev Bermondsey , sub-secretary . CLOCK HOUSE , SHOEMAKER ' S , CASTLE ST . LEICESTER .

      ... ' - SQUAKE , i Mr . J . GordoD , 3 ; Sherrard-courf , Shoemaker . Mr . E . Pearce , 2 , O ^ le-street , Foley-placf , Shoemaker . Mr . Christopher , 1 , George-street , Folcy-place , Shoemaker . Mr . J . Pearce . 5 , Foley-street , Shoemaker . Mr . Rogers , 24 , Crown-street , Haymarket , Shoemaker . Mr . Debcll , 31 , Marshall-street , Shoe-makar . Mr . Badhain , 16 , Silver-street , Golden-square , Shoemakey . Mr . Sk $ ton , 12 , Chandos-street , Shoemaker . Mr . Osborne , l , Pulteney-court , Shoe-inaktir . Mr . Reynolds , 3 , Charlton-sireet , Shoemaker . Mr . Saundcrs , 19 . Tottenham-street . Mr . Shackleton , 2 , Pickering-place , sub-treasurer , Mr . Hawkjina , Castle-street , sub-secretary . SOUTHWARK BRIDGE KOAD .

      Mr . James'Jenkinson , hatter , Southwark Bridge Road . ¦ ¦ ' ' Mr . Georgo Taylor , do . 13 , Richmond Terrace ^ East-street , Wai worth . Mr . Henry Jones , do . 2 , Sauthamptou-street , Camberwell . Mr . Thomas Lockett , do . 10 , Robert-street , New Cut . ¦ : ¦ ¦ Mr . Isaac Kelsey , do . 13 , Mmfco-sfcreet , Long-lane . Mr . James Morgan , do . S , Wellington-street . .. ' Mr . Roger Dodgson , do . Southwark Bridge Road , Mr . John Kelsey , do . 5 , Maine Crescent , Bermondsev . Mr . Mathew Ratcliffe , do . 5 , Mount-street , Walworth . Mr . Mark Amos , do . 177 , Long-lane , Bermpndsey . Mr . John Nancollis , do . 37 , Great Suffolk-street , Borough , sub-Treasurer . Mr . Robert Fiiut , do , 11 , Castle-street , Borough , sub-Secretary .

      DUKINVIELD . Mr . Lewis Buckley , weaver . Wharf-street . Mr . John Scofieldj carder . Queen-street . Mr . John Garside , rover , George-street . Mr . William Cook , calico-printer , Town-lane . Mr . Robert Simkinson , spinner , George-street . Mr . James Jockett , shoemaker . Mr . Thomas Naylor , dresser , sub-Secretary . Mr . Thomas Broadbent , spinner , sub-Secretary

      TEETOTAL CHARTISTS , LaMBBTH . Mr . John Fowler , baker , 103 , Broadwall . Mr . Jeremiah Lee , slate-maker , White Horse street . Mr . William Knight , schoolmaster , 3 , Webber street . Mr . Manuel Ashwood , carpenter , 40 , Broadwale . Mr . John Lockett , hatter , 53 , Tower-street . Mr . Joseph Vivian , carpenter , 34 , Commercial road * Mr . George Simms , bookbinder , S 3 , Wateilcfo road v sub-Secretary . ; . wiga . v .

      Mr . John Heaton , weaver , Hardybutte . Mr . Silvester Bootle , do . do . : ¦ Mr . James Murray , do . Brown-street . Mr .-John Major , do . Spring GardenB . Mr . Connor , do . Wigan-lane . . Mr . William Paul , cabinet maker , Walgate . Mr . Robert Hart , shoemaker , do . Mr . Joseph Howard , painter , do . Mr . Edw ; ard Leach , Book-keeper , Rodney-street . Mr . Thomas Heaton , weaver , Hardybutss , sub Treasurer . Mr . James Smalley , tailor , Hardybutts , sub-Secre tary .

      HULL Rev . William Hill . Mr . George Barker , fitter , Jessamine Cottage , English-street . Mr . William Padgett , joiner , Pullan ' s Buildings , Spencer-street . iVlr . William F . Cheeseman , joiner , Edgar-street . Mr . John Hatfield , turner , Edgar-street . Mr , John Mayman , JL > iiier , English-street . Mr . George Walls , tailor , Cook's Buildings . Mr . William Webster , cabinet-maker , New George street . Mr . Edward Hunter , reporter , Good 3 Place , Osborne-strcet-Mr . Henry Westoby , plane-maker , James ' s Place , Mason-street . . Mr . Roger Pinder , |! Charti ? t ; Blacking and Beverage Manufacturer , Edward's Place , Edward ' s-, street , sub-Treasurer . Mr . J . Holiday , 10 , Owen-square , New Georgestreet , sub-Secretary . -

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      CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN THE HULL CHARTISTS AND THE HULL COKN LAW LEAGUE .

      TO THE CEIARTIST COUNCIL . Gentlemen , —Yours of the 7 th arrived last night ; and I beg to observe that you sadly mistake the nature of your public duty , if you imagine that it justifies your neglect of that courtesy , which is recegnijsed in all civilized intercourse . With this remark , I shall dismiss all your irrelevant ruatter and . scurrilous ... language . . You quote certain notes of your reporter as cenErmr ation of your view of the subject for discussion . In the Evening Star , ^ Oct . 2 Mb , is a report of Mr . BeeslBy ' s speech ; and therein he is said to have stated , " he was there to prove that a repeal of the Corn Laws would not benefit the people . " There ia no qualification whatever to the proposition . This report was , ( I have been informed by one of your friends ) probably drawn up by your reporter . "Whether or not , it affords evidence by a third p : irty connected with you ; and which I place . iu oppositiOD , to the e * idecee of the notes of your reporter .

      That a repeal of tbe Corn Liws would not benefit the operative classes without any quaJifiealion , is , evidently , Ute opinion of Mr . Beesley . ' He m&intuined ( see the Evening SfarjOct . 27 , ) that the United Kingdom could be marie to produce teu times as much corn as it does at present ; and , as a declamatory climax , to give effect to his argument , I find in reference to my notes , that he exclaimed ; " What care tve / er being driwi / rom tht markets of the ivorldV The correctness ^ therefore , of my apprehension of the proposition , remains undisturbed . :- .. ¦' ' . ¦ Your unwillingness to abide by the proposition , as stated in tny first letter , is a tacik admission of its soundness . Tbe truth of this proposition being admitted , all that I Cf / Diend for is granted . '

      As you appear so angry with me , and as this is my last communication to you on the sut-ject , I will tell you the secret of my wish to make both him and your lecturer keep to the question .- I was present at the public debate in the Shambles between Mr . Jones and Mr . Falvey ; and I perceived that Mr . J . would rrot , exwpt in one instance , a mere glance , approach the question for debate , notwithstanding the repeated calls of Mr . P . for him to do so . Moreover , as an attempt has been made to shew , that I misunderstood every thing which I advtstted to in reply to Mr . B ., I am determined that both Mr . B . and myself shall be so placed , that any deviation from the subject can be in ' stantly checked . You have , I am informed ( for I bate not seen the NorthtrnStar ) published , before it is finished , contrary to all usage and courtesy , our correspondence , u far as it has been carried on before . Had you no friend iu the camp to appriaa you of the impropriety ?

      I leave now to tbe impartial reader to determine , whether I have paid you more attention than the uucourteous and ungentlemanly style of your correspondence deserves . I ascribe this to your want of experience , as you disclaim all intention of personal offence . 1 remain Gentlemen , A well wiaher to trade and commerce , R . Viimi . Hull , Nov . 9 th , 1842 . N- 'B . I should have added that you misapprehend my silence on your other ctu litions . After the receipt if your last . Ittttr , I thought it necessary to settle the subject for debate the first .

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      TO MB . ROBERT FIRTn , "CORRESPONDING SECRK-: ' 1 ARY OF THE UVLL ANri-MO . \ OI > 0 LY ASSOCI-, '" ; AHOX . " , : ; ' ¦ . ' " . ; . Sir , —We have received your last , and regret to . find that you psraist in repudiating the credit we hail given you for a honest purpose to abide fairly the result of the contest you had sought . Tn reference to the lesson you are pleased to condescend us , at the commencement of your letter , about " mistaking the nature of our public duty , '' " neglect of courtesy , " and " scurriUous language , " we have only

      to ooserve that our endeivour bas been to maintain a rigid adherence to all the courtesies of civilized society . If our correspondence , though respectfully Worded , has been somewhat unflattering in its tone , the reason may be found , not in our disposition to be offensive , much less scurril ' . ous . but in the matter and expression of your own letters , in which we lament the eihibition of so much irrascibllity , combined with a seemiugly studied offensiveness of phrase , as satisfies us tbat ; however deficient we may be in the courtesies of public correspondence , yours is not the school in which tolearn them . .

      We are not aware of any irrelevanV matter in our last , SAye such remarks as were called fi > r by yours of the 3 « d "; and if you are pleased to introduce matter irrelevant to the question , you must bear with us if we take the trouble to reply . . . Tuu srem sensible of the dilemma in wbioh yon have . put yourself ; nor are we blind t » it ; but , however much we may . sympathise with you , our " publicduty " -will not allow us to permit you to escape it scathlesa . ¦ You have accepted our challenge , ami must abide the C 8 ii 8 eqaences of . your act The shewing of your present letter proves that you accepted it in our terms and not in those by which you no » v seek to substitute them ; and you must not expect to wriggle out of it by clogging Xhe question with such "limitations" and " qualifications" &s you may think proper .

      You quote tbe Evening Star of Oct 27 , to show that ¦ Mr . Beesley is of opinion that " A repeal of the Corn Laws would not benefit the people ; " and you add tbat '' there is no qualification whatever to the proposition . " You need not have gone so far for proof . We were quite willing to admit that tbat was his ppinion , anfl quite prepared to maintain that he is correct in holding that opinion ; and tho only thing tbat we insist is , tbat there shall be " no qualification whatever to the proposition . " Oar last letter might have sufficiently apprised you of all this . But what are the reasons and tbe arguments by which this proposition is to be maintained ? Precisely those which the " limitations" and " qualifications" you seek to introduce would altogether exclude frota the debate ! Reverse the matter j and we propose that the question be , "Would a repeal of the Cora Laws benefit < the . people V but that neither " free trade , " " cheap bread , " ¦ nor a : iy other argumentto prove that it would , be at all admitted into the discussion .

      You must see , if you be not wilfully and obstinately blind ' , the absurdity of your position . If you had stated at the lodge that " neither the franchise nor any other scheme be introduced , " and , had , M * B .-e . sley accepted that proposal , our course would have been cl-iar ; but when you presume to lay down conditions which were not stated then ; when you propose that uli collateral subjects , and , indeed , all the sources of your opponent ' s arguments shall be rigidly excluded ; when you insist on being sole dictator both of the subject and the mode of the discussion , you pay an ill compliment to our sense , when you expect us to submit to it without demur , and afford an . ill sample of " the genteel and courteous" in being angry with us when you find that -we do not do so . And yet . you have the hardihood to accuse us " of unwillingness to abide by the proposition" ! and assume that all you contend for is eras ted !

      . Gently , gently , good Sir . Not quite so fast I 'We have certainly no disposition to agree to a proposition which would bind us to enter into a discussion with our tongue tied ; bat we are equally indisposed to admit tbat " A repeal of the Corn Laws would benefit the people . " And we regard your tenaciously adhering to the " qualification" which you have attached to it as a proof tbat you feel conscious of your inability to sustain it if a fair field be given to your oppo nent . : In conclusion , sir , we again tell you that all we require from you is that which wt > are ready to accord to you , " a fair field and no favour . " Your present letter lays down the terms of Mr . Beesley's challenge in words which we are ready to adopt . Ton affirm that " there was no qualification whatever to the proposition . " If these terms ( your own , mind ) content you

      the whole of your skirmishing In this correspondence is wasted . Now then , Sir , what , say you ? Dare you withdraw your " qualification , " and abide by your own showing of your own acceptance of Mr . Beesley's challenge ? if so , let us nave no more fighting round thebuah ; but to the field 1 We have had enough of this small fire , and are tired ef it . . We take the " lists" as your own showing ; and we wait to see you at once enter them , as we shall assuredly write down that you shrink from a contest of your own seeking . We are , Sir , With all due respect , The Hull Chartist Councillors , Signed on behalf , and by request of the whole , W ¥ . HotLiDAT , Secretary . Hull , Nov . 21 st , 1842 .

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      CHRISTMAS BOXES FOR THE VICTIMS AND NATIONAL DEFENCE FUND .

      • Brother Chartists , —Nearly another year is past ; still we see tyranny in all its huge forms with the grasping hand of selfishness , still determined to oppress and enslave the toiling millions of this country , and bring those who . are not yet brought down to a state ot beggary . How much longer this infernal system it to remain it is for you to decide . Talking about it won't do ; then we must buckle on the armour , and prepare ourselves for tbe good work . We nave another year nearly at fiand ; then let us make it truly what it ought to be—the happy new year , Let us set about it in right earnest ; and as a working man who has to toil fourteen hours a day , to drag out a miserable existence , I will suggest to others what I intend to do myself

      Christmas-is a time when most of the working classes tike a holiday ; then let us turn that holiday to the best account ; let us show our tyrants we are determined to tako every advantage of every circumstance ; and that we are bent upon having our freedom . Then let every Chartist go a Christmas boxing in behalf of the Victims' and Defence Fund . We see placemen , pensioners , churchmen , policemen , beadles , and all the other black beetles and leeches , who are sacking the hearts' blood of society , going a Christmas boxing . Surely , what is good for the goose is good for the gander . Let us go and appeal on behalf of the wives and families of those noble-minded men who have so nobly stood forward to advocate the causa of suffering humanity .

      ' . My brother Chartist , Sims , and myself , have determined to devote Christmas Day and boxing day to this noble work . We have put down sixpence each for example ; let every man who calls himself a Chartist do likewise , or more if he can afford it . Let no man say he cannot afford , while he can throw away sixpence for that accursed hog-wash which only fills the enemy's exchequer , and buys bullets and bayonets for the pression of freedom all cvex the world . Let every two Chartists throughout England , Ireland , and Scotland , do this , here is a sum ot money at once . Let every

      locality get collecting boxes , marshal the men in twos , as two can go about the work better than one ; but let every man , who has half a doaou acquaintances , get a collector ' s book , signed by the committee of his locality , authorising him as a collector . The man that won't do this is a poor Chartist indeed , when he knows there are sixty nobles of nature that have to take tbtir trials . Many have families thrown upon the wide . world unprotected , scoffed at by the upper classes , and neglected by : all those who should befriend them .

      Brother Chartists , money is the sinews of . war , and if that is hot forthcoming , to all intents and purposes many of these will have to share the fate of poor Ellis . :, . ¦ . ; . ' . ; .. ¦ . _ ; ¦ Poor Ellis ! after being ¦ ¦ proved innocent was banished from his native land . I think I see him standing on the vessel ' s deck , with the tears streaming down his manly cheeks , torn from the wife of his affection , torn from the children of their loves ,. torn from everything that was dear to him ; he looks back for his native land , but in vain ; he Bees nothing but the briny ocean ; he has lost every hope ; be sinks in despair , and is heard of no more .

      -Think on these , brother Chartists , and say , shall we sp ' fcnd our Christmas in idleness ? I think I hear you Bay no . Then get yourselves in readiness ; get small collecting boxes , they are always handy . Go to the shopkeepers ; go to i ' all . classes of Reformers ; go everywhere were you think there is a penny to be got Let not differences in politics baulk the generous mind . Appeal on behalf of suffering humanity ; let every Chartist who bas a wife ask her to go to the shopkeeper , whtre 8 bo deals , with the collection book . Let the females go about the work , and success is certain . Go to your concerts and balls , at night , in behalf of tbe victims ; no trusting to one another . Let every man go about the work .

      I shall take the Charter in my hand , and tiny body that complains of ignorance I shall endeavour to sell it to them for one penny , the profits to go to the Victim Fund . Let every good Chartist do the same . Remember Christmas Day comes on a Sunday ; get your boxes and men selected a w « k previous . Let every lecturer impress this or / tlm mind of his audience . ¦ If Corn Law repealers can raise fifty thomsand pounds , Chartist * can do the smb » j where there is a will there is always a wa */ . . Paine has said , " for » nation to be free she must will it , " and he that woult ^ be tfree himself must strike tbe blow . W . Skblb , London , j Nov . 20 , 1842 . '¦ ¦ :

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Dec. 3, 1842, page 6, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct781/page/6/