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      vR . HENRY HETKERLNGTOX , HIS "NEW J 1 OTE , " AND THE NORTHERN STAR . j-0 TH £ ED 1 TOE OF THE SOBTHBfiN STAR . Queen ' s Bench , April 27 , 1841 . g ^__ In the Northern Slar ot the 17 th , instant , and -3 n Itst treek , yoa have thought proper to animad-! frt upon the Address issued by Messrs . Lovett , JSjjjjs . and others , for the formation of a Xatioaal Variation for promoting the political and social iniif ^ gsiHit of the people . You La-re , I regret to say , Srformed your duty with a flippancy unbecoming jthe j ~ 35 jon , and * disregard of truth unworthy of a pro-J * gal idTocate of the principles of the Peoples ^ yao . commence first by falsely asserting " that this ^ ajjjrioD is of O"ConnelI , Hume , and Roebuck ' s con-In ^ on / 1 With respect to your second assertion . I L-jjisoi presume to qaestion your prophetic capabili-£ - thoaga yon have , in this instance , published a ^ p rediction . .

      VTfcst Till the people think , Sir , of a public -writer . jjje cause of democracy "who can commence with a -2 ft ] perversion of the truth—aye , a -wilful perversion ? ¦ nfi jot ibe ed . tor of the Northern Star , some months tm receire a copy of Chartism , -written by Lovett and ^ Ei in "WfiTwidc . ( Hoi , in -which a National Associ-» boE i * proposed , and the rules for governing such an ^ eii uun we submitted for public approbation ? Did *^ i he ed - ' - ? r publicly promise to revie-w thai -work ?—mfl did t e nct « 'Ri 3 fcri te found the work had elicited fee -pproVA ' aoa of all good Chartists , and even of the " -eots of Chartism , meanly break bis premise , by SteT ni > tSc . i- ? it ? The e-iuor of tie Northern Star w * full wail , ^ hen te iia ; e the assenioii ka Lc-Telt jai ColU ^ " * " Chartism" no : only ccntaiceil a pronn National Association

      -j ^ jMfo a , but defined iis \ ? hjec 3 md contained its rules ; and now that it ia intaBajd to r&iuce the proposal to practice , he meanly ' -j ^ apta to r > . b thes e worthy men of the honour they ; tx jarJy entitfed to frcra their labours ia the people ' s gsall fcy basely asserting that it " is of OConntll , ' Ban * ' M" ^ Boebnci ' s concoction . " This Tnr . y accord ^ j . jj Sariheni Siar " Chartism , * but it will suit no m ^ n Tiii » sF * * ' DonoQI ud honeaty in his composition . ' ' The Editor of the Northern Star , through ignsraECt , \ jj eir . founding that -which emanates from Lovett and i Colass " * ¦ ' Ci-artism" with an Association projected , and jhsc about to be formed , by Dr . Black , Mr . Piase , and others , among the liberal and enlightened of the middle i -j jsses . to adopt and carry forward Mr . Hume ' s plan of i Triennial Parliaments

      BosscSald and Logger Suffrage , , TbSs ? by Ba ^ ot , Xo Property Qualification , Payment i rf Members , as < l Equal Eiectoral Districts . The in- , » £ 2 t ! 92 was to form » n Association exclusively » f -the . gail ' a class , that -arouli cc-opexate -with the Chartists ) jj all just ana laudable measures for extending the pgizs aid liberties of the nsecfranchised miLions , aid J j u -mproTiBg tbeir intellectual , social , and moral con- ; Suoa- ' Mi . Hume , tad those "who act with him , , tjjocjbt that the -working classes might be inclined to , jjopt » birge a measure of reform—little less , in fact , j gsja the whole Charter—if it -were- fairly and ho- ' bskIt submitted to theii consideration , and , tisied to ascertain -whether the Chart st 3 -would . ' 5 as aa Association formed for the purpose of carrying ; Car . tr Suffrage , without adhering to the name of the ' Qsrjez . Be requested za intrrriew with -Qessrs . '

      icrret :, Gleare , Watson , Hethenuirttn , CoUins , and . FiEea- Tie two latter not bting in town , could not < tzeiti ; bet had a subsequent interview -with Mr . j Berne w the subject Three of the former , LoYett , j C&Tt , tni Httheringtoa , attended . Loyett and , ' QttTe would not yield the name of the Charter—they > tixgLi ' . that Mr . Hume's Lodger Suffrage tras a large ' jinnee towards the Charter , but would not consent j to lid a new agitation for anything less than the Char- \ ter . or for anything not bearing the name . I difftred j * fci my friends , aad thought Mr . Hume's proposition i jd r » d and so utensire , that , though I -would neYer j ibwdon the agitation for the Charter , if I saw any ; pcepect of carrying Mr . Hume's plan immediately , I Voald giTe it my beat exertions , as I considered it , in ! bet , the Charter with another name . Messrs . Lorett \ ud GeaTe koth set their faces against the plan , as did ; also CoBins and Tincect ; and Mr . Hume then said ¦ '• i ; ; ! !

      fiaJ » oUdng ^ ett ! d done , and both parties must , j ttedcfft , take their own courae . Toar conduct , Sir , in reference to this " NewMore , " i Ksseta litde credit en you is a public -writer . You nt rriaestly destitute of ' . hat democratic spirit of [ freedom and equality which is essential in an advocate » rf the rights of the people . When the Working . ; 1 , I _

      Ka " B Association put forth an address to the people of ' Ireland , iimtiEg iheir co-operation -with the Chartists , , t copy of the address "was sent round to all the AoodatioBs that we knew of , inciting the signatures i < f tatii chairn ; en or secretaries—if the address met ¦ >

      aea apjavbatic-c , and their suggestions and corrections ff it did not The Northern Star then highly approved d the course taken to obtain unity of sentiment , and topn it publicity . The same course now meets with oeerndDedhostility . It is called a " secret move" to lanrard an address that reflects the highest honour on ths he&d and heart of him who penned it . enclosed in * letter cammencVng VUu 3 : — " Dear Sir , —The followic * Mress is intended to be submitted to all the 1 HHI 5 G CHAE . T 1 ST 3 IBUOtGHOrT THE Kl > GDOH , in ¦

      oroa to o&iain their signatures , «'!] £ > it will be ? iBI £ D A >" D PrBl 1 SHED AS THEIB JuI . NT 1 DDKESS . " IMijoucaii a secret moYe ! You may by sophistry sa falsehood tieiuds the unthinking , and treaciierouj ' . y beay 2-eir cause , but you will make no impression on 2 a » Ejncn sense of the working people ; your fa ; &ekoa &a < injustice only tend to destroy the influence yta DBce had , by opening the eyes of the people lo the » 1 Entires and objects of the conductors of the 2 > vr&trz Star .

      TTtit caa you truly and justly nrge against the o ^ jeca of this Association—this " New Moyb , " ss you ed it ? Are you aYtrse to the first objec : —•• to estab-Esi ir oae gecsral body persons of ail cretds , dosses , tod vpjdvns , who are desirous to promote the politial » oq serial impreYenient of the peoi'le ? " ¦ T > o yen fear that it wiil a ^ Jmit some few honest " men from the aab of the middle class ? What do you evil Mr . * f 3 Tt , ra O'Coszaz ? la he not a middle class ma ?

      » z& nght hsrejao ., then , to aasuine tliat Mr . Fearpn O'Cumor embodies in his u-mi person ail thehoiitszj » a ir-eH-gEnce of hia class ? There are thousands oi p »< i Een amoBg the aidole class besides Mr . 0 'Concor . » ao tie dfc-irooj of promoting the political and social iffir « , Tiiaeat of the people , but are deterred from coopesiing for the atyunment of that object by the ue-PKBrip ' . fcQ coisauct of the conductors of the Northern i > -& . Orar Association opens the duor to thtm if tLey » n ciii-sed to enter .

      ii v ' ^ ' ^ QriiieTTL & ur aYerse to the second object of the tJsB-ii&Te "— ' To o-feate and extend an eniigbtentu pttj e cption i . v fatocr of the People ' s Chak-^¦ i ^ icd byerery jcst aad peaceful means secibe j- » ZSaCTMEM , soth ^ t the icdustri o us classes may « plieed in possession of the franchise—the must ntpcrjai Etcp to all polhieil and sc-cial reformation r w . a - A ; oaly aTrrss to tht- adoption * f Just and peaceful ° * a far a ' -taicicg the orjec : ? Yon , Mr . Editor , r ' ^ ^ ° ^ objec t a ' ¦ sprat ts eitcb a mackartl . " > Kst-. s me , srd I have no doubt others also

      many , ^• • -fc tone aad spirit of the editorial articles in th-IT ' ; dfeftat the & > - > ject you haYe in view—instead ! / ^ ! th e « ; W ^ .. . strengthen it , " * ainre its success What prtitxt can 70 H raie up ^ T- ' - & * secc-nd object . " On , " y ^ u will exclaim , 5 j » Ciire tfi : hir- g t 0 ay asaii ^ t the objects , but ^ a aireacT ^ atioawl Charter Association in CrC ^**" " ¦ - ^ ^ 20 such thing in existence . Mr . jjt ^^ ' ^ ** u . has an Asicciation , which is always »_^? ^ - ^ '&- Charte r , cut doisg very little towards -f ^' -itriutri .

      % ? V ,, 1 ^? ' Juil Caa Sod no ralid eronnd of objection &Z ^ l ^ f ? : 1 : E - " = Association , why all this ontj ^^^ t it ? Be cause you feir that some good may be w -4 - ^ - ^ ea by the " Xew MoYe ; " and you know that ' ¦ £ S Pf ^ pcrtion to its success in working cut its * befc ! r tLe il : 2 ! 1 € lice of toe Northern Star decline ; S ^ v ^ v " 8011 ? to say , is upheld by delusion , and JeftTb- ^ f ° ttfe P ° P - Ough t not Mr . O'Cjn-^^ . ' ^ f- ' " ° put f onh such balderdash as is confc- v * - ^ "t lfcr -= r in this week ' s paper ? Ought he ej-X *^^ " ^ of calling men " assassins" and " traitis r ^ '" ^ KQspiritcrs , " whom yon have been compfclied h ^ Tx "' ^ - su of the 10 th of April , in the fol-*^ S UHrtiPa -. __ JTr- - ^^ - .- ^ fts . iV- ^* ° ciiar 5 e against the six gentlemen whose 1 - , ' J * ^ Pi ^ c'Jed to the cocurnent . Ws know « om s

      *** atSl ^^ P ^^ o { anything dishenest or dii-* J ( 7 ? € ' ^ " * ' kno w nothing to the contrary of j i , Xj ^ "* ^ 11 take the trouble to read ; Wfe ? * tftfoagb— a letter " full of sound ; feTiStv , ^ ? iiig nothing "—will immediately per-, * VnnL CaUM rf cfcarliHn is to be sacrificed to *« r « al b w . P * * maliimity of two of as great ' , ^ ititl ( ¦?^ S " € Ter Ss ^ ed in the poliUcal arena i « Ui « ZX ^^ fcil and Feargns O-Connor , one with an : C , r ~ ~* ^* other with an English one . ; / C ^^^ l y for the cause of Chartism , Feaxgns i ** I « Uu » v n ° t satuSed ^ ith hnmbng . He inakes ^ . ___ tt S assertion , in his letter iB this weeks ; < 1 r » iJe j ^ ^ deace of a gentleman , of a gentleman 1 l ;^ b ^ t . ur , and of station , that this ' New It ro ^^* * * Mr . Hume- a , by Mr . Hume and ; feeajT ^^ on their part , and by ssme of the ' *•» tej n ?\ v ^^^ Pectus npon your part . " That \ »^ ' ? " ^ P » t of the " fustiau jacieU , blistered i kiiib

      "* 26 n x v UI XiDgl&nU , DCOIUU 1 U , * J-O-G ™ , ihe ^ ggtd-bacie * , barefooted Irish . " 6 i « tKTu ^ *»• l « e asserted an tmtroth—he has i ^ ^ the ^ f ^ " not ; " iEdu ** ma 1 " tte asser " ^ teofv aeace 0 I authority " of a genUeman-of i ^^ coaoui , ana of station , " it is nevertheless a I ^ - '' AtVtj tile chaste langnare of the Northern ***** x- ~ r ; 1- Let Mr - ° ' <*> = i « gi ^ e the gentle- i ' ^ sried ^ v Pr ° Te " ^ trath of hiB aEer ; 5 ea ' ! ^ M *^!* j 1 k ® t * c 8 ^ & 11 imputation upon ' , ^ VoS ^ 11 by facL i ^ ' pjj ? ' ^ . iastead cf promoting the success I t ^ j ^^ ej charter , by endeaYouring to heal ani- j ^ t ^ f 0200 16 11111011 ^^ S the people , is con- C ^ ** > " tho * e -who bive to ^ ears bee n i tgfe fi ^ L ^ T ° * lert 7 M ( i equality—traduc-. **« «^™ f * Of men wh 0 ^^ ceYer , in any in-*** 4 ua- o 6 ** to tami ^ 1 ^ e cause cf liberty , or ^ » fir Of jL * frffat im « "i oDprtiiicn when -the ; *** People 1 cas * e waj to be suitaiced .

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      The Northern Star begins now to feel the effects of its unprincipled conduct , in its declining influence ; and hence its angry denunciation cf the " New Moyc " ' Mr . , 0 "Connor and bis Editor may sneer at political education , but a glance at the Star -will show its" absolute necessity before any good can be accomplished . Mr . O'Connor is welcome to the ten imbecile creatures who signed Ihe Address , and tben withdraw their names . Do they not require instruction ? When a time of trial or persecution arises , who would trust the ten poltroons who -withdrew their names from the admirable Address of LoYett , Collins , and tbers , at the dictation of . Feargus O'Connor ? Who would expect Yictory in any canse with an army of ten thousand euch men ? Xay , if Mr . OConnor"s Association out-nxirabered

      the army of Xerxes , four or five hundred firm and honest men would defeat and rout tha mighty host , ii it were composed of such . men . as . these ten Breeders . In conciusien , let me tend « the disinterested and patriotic proprietor of the Iforihem Star a word of advice . Cease to calumniate and traduce the characters oi men quite equal to yourself in honour and honesty ; don't expose yourself by calling upon the people to " throw the traitors overboard , " or else your fate may be a " watery graY ^ " You are betraying the people now by seeking to establish an odious despotism ottr the rights and opinions of men ; but you mistake your powers if you imagine you will succeed . ] f ] . ttmrt alone , I will resist your attempt to coerce me inta a subniisiion to your will against my better

      ; u igment , while 1 have a mind and a will of my own . If I urn comptiled to yield to despotism , it thai ! be intellectual and powerful despotism ; not the ignorant , nitan . pitiful , despotic efforts made to crush the free expression of opinion , and the honest and safe combination of good men in a just cause , by the despicable poltroons who manage the Northern Star . I , as on « of the signers of JLoTtU and Culiins's address , will exert myself to the utmost to carry it into successful operation ; I despise the fellows who would attempt to injuie me for acting upon the honest dictates of my own judgment . I laugh at their impotent threaU ; but , at any public meeting of my impartial and honest fellow-countrymen , I will defenu the principles and objects x >( the address , and its superiority over the

      O'Connor plans , if fairiy and extensively adopted by the working chsses . Mr . O'Ccnnor may promise his poor , deluded dupes , by a resolution of his hired Convention , that they shall have the Charter in three montha from the present time ; but f am satisfied it will take a much longer period to move a nation . If he could obtain the People ' s Charter within the time specified , of what use would it be , if the people were not butter prepared to appreciate it ihan the ten Breeders who erased their namta through fear of Mr . O'Connor and his hired tools ? If tho people had the Charter to-morrow , and were destitute of a knowledge of their political rights and duties , how long would they retain their liberties ? Brief would be the tenure ef possession ! However , those \ 7 ho really seek the liberty , prosperity , and

      happiness of the people , from a pure motive , are not easily crushed by unprincipled men like the managers of the Northern Star . I have no doubt the honest and undoubted signers of Lovttt and Collins's Addres 3 wiil zealously pursue their object . Let U 3 not be diverted or intimidated- If we have but one or two hundrvd firm intel . igent men , properly alive to the importance of the objects we seek to accomplish , great g ^ od will be effected ; but no good can be accomplished where men -prostrate their niicds before a would-be despot , who wonld use the public press for vile and selfish purposes , and to crush men who have maintained the principles of the People's ChaTter , for many yeats before he was ever heard af , and who have never done one act to dishonour the cause they espoused .

      I am , Sir , a hater of despotism , whether exercised by Tory , Whig , or Radical , H . Hetheringto . n

      TO MR . H . HETHERINGTON . " Pardon me , my Lord , your letter , not your counsel , hath betrayed you . We , your law advisers , had beaten down the load of evidence produced , till the court called you up in jadgmect against yourself ; and so conflicting waa the testimony between your Lordship ' s two noble selves , that we , your counsel , knew not which was our client , whether your Lordship ' s villany or your Loniship ' s folly . " ¦ Sib , —It is not sufficient that a man believes himself to be honest ; but , if at all suspected , he is bound to prove himself so ; but the same rule does not apply to folly . It is quite sufficient , methinks , if a man is thought silly , to be tatlsfied without publishing his misfortune to the world . ; I shall proceed , Sir , to reply fully to your every , assertion , first tendering you my best thanks for having . supplied every deficient link in my chain of evidence ! against the concoctors of the " new move" in general , and , against yourself in particular . I commence with . the point which you attempt to make of my being a middle-oass man . You say , " What de you call Mr . Feargus O'Connor ? Is he not = a middle-c ' . ass man ? What right hive you , then , to assume that Mr . Feargns O'Connor tmbodies , in his own person , all the honesty and intelligence ot his class . ' There are thonsands who 3 re desirous of promoting the ; political and social improvement ef the people , but 1 are- deterred from co-operaling for the attainment of ; that oVject by the unprincipled conduct of the conductors of the Norttern Star . OUH ASSOCIATION ' OP £ >' S THE DOOB TO THEM IP THEY ARE DISPOSED TO EXTEB- "

      yow , Sir , I ask yon if language can more fully prove the fact of my assertion , that one , and the principal , objiciof your " move" was to gtt rid of Feargus O'Connor and the Northern Slar ? Is it not admitted that the door which was to let in your middle-class coadjutors was to have let out Feargus O'Connor and the Northern Star ? Sir , it matters little to what class in society a man belongs ; but , in passing , allow me to correct your error . I do not belong to the middle class of society : I belong to the aristocracy , as they are called , of my own country ; and , as I have often boasted , I have been , by honest service , promoted from the ranka ef the aristocracy to a commission in the democracy .

      Suppose that I was a middle man , what an anomaly to see Feargus O'Connor , the middle man , struggling against his own order for the rights of the poor ; and to sse Henry Hetberlnjton , a working man , struggling against the rights of his crder ! But , Sir , you forget that our Association also opens the door to all those of the middle class who honts ' . iy join to carry out our principles . Do we obj ct to Mr . Mqir , Mr . Ross , Mr . PitkfctLly , Mr- James Taylor , and a thousand others ? ^< o : the only difference is that these gentlemen are satisfied with equality ; while you require for your friends an ascendnncy ; a power in fa ct , as I shill presently show , to C 63 troy us at pleasure . You next

      say" Northern Slar , instead of promoting the success of the Peop ! e ' s charter , by endeavouring to heal aniniusitiea and promote unisn amoD ^ the people , is constantly sneering a ! all those who have for years been buffering for the causa of liberty ani equality . " Sir , my boast is , that I have been the first man who has ever succeeded , in any country , in making one indivisible party of that whole cla 3 S for whose rights alone I conteni , always premising that by no means

      can the rights of the other classes ba guaranteed , wlii ' . e those of the labouring classes are withheld ; and , Sir , call me what you pltase , this in your eyes , and in the eyes of many , very many more , is my gTeat , my surpassing , mj culy , my ntver-to-be-forgiven sin ! I found the people , even in the several towns , split into sections , and moved by crotchet-mongers . It has co 3 t me years of labour to unite them in one body : but , thank God . 1 have succeeded . ' and now divide them who

      can : ; Did you ever know me to withhold praise from any man who deserved it ? Have you not known me to step ont of my way to bestow it upon unworthy objects , like yenrselves , in the hope of coaxing you into the path of vlrtae ? lanot one olyoar present mast serious charges against the Siar the fact of the Editor having praised you all ? And here , Sir , § ive me leave to correct an error into which you have fallen . You suppose that the Editor of the Siar , when writing mildly on ths 10 th , was in possession of the facts which I stated on the 24 th ; he was not , nor 0 / one of them . He merely learned from me that such a " move " was projected ; and although I received an invitation on tho 31 st of 3 Iarch to make one of your

      Provisional Council , that circular is yet on my table , and never have I to this moment , otherwise than in my letter of the 2 ith , informed the Editor of my having received it . Again , bear in mind that on the 10 th he spoke as if he -supposed the plot would go no further ; when behold ! on the iVJowing week it is published in the Svn , with a list of eighty-seven names of persons stated by tha Morning Chronicle to possess the confidence of the people ! D . d this fact , Sir , not justify his increased vigour in opposing and denouncing the scheme ; aud when , in the following week , Mr . O'Connell openly supported it , exultingly declaring its objects , was I not justified—one of those objects being ts get rid of me , —in speaking with some degree of warmth upon the subject ?

      You say : — " The Northern Star now begins to feel the effect of iu anprincipkd conduct in ita declining inflaccce . "

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      Sir , it would have been wisdom to wait for last Saturday's response to my appeal , before you hazirded so very silly an observation . I fancy you have felt the annihilation of your own influence . Yeu say : — " Mr . O'Connor is welcome to the ten imbecile creatures who signed the address , and then withdrew their names at the dictation of Ftaigus O'Connor .

      Yon must have been in a wonderful hurry when you wrote your letter ; because , had yon bestowed one moment ' s though fc upon the subject you would have found that every one of these names was withdrawn before my letter appeared ; but , Sir , if I am welcome to them , they are most heartily weleome to me ; and if reflection was not sufficient justification for the step which they hastily took , your letter will have afforded them such , and ample . Yoa next say that : —

      " Mr . O'Connoi may promise his poor deluded dupes , by a resolution of kis hired Convention , that they shall have the Charter in thxe « months from the present time ; but I am satisfied it will take a . much longer time to move a nation . " In truth , Sir , I believe your greatest satisfaction to consist in the long period which you hoped to pass before the nation could be moved to the attainment of the Charter . But oae word about the " hired Convention . " Of the ten persons who compese the Convention , and who were elected by ballot at a public meeting , out of a number nominated at other public meetings , by the

      people themselves , I did not even mention the names of five ; and four of the others , Mcasrs . Pitketbly , Deegan , Smart , and Skevington , sat in the old Convention ; so that James Arthur , of Carlisle , as honest a man as breathes the breath of life , is my only nominee : just as Messrs . Rodgere , Carpenter , Lovett , Cleave , Hetherington , Moore , Tincent , and Hurtwell , were nominees of" the Working Men ' s Association" in the General Convention ; but with this trifling difference . thut I merely recommended him , as a fit person to be nominated , while yon wou ' . d not allow any one else to be put in nomination . And what say you to the six gentlemen who wanted secretly to appoint a whole provisional Government ?

      Now , Sir , I must have a word upon the subject ot "despotism and dictation" at this most seasonable time Iu the National Convention it was supposed that about thirty-three would ait , and that thirty-nine should be elected ; and pray attend to my " dictation" of those thirty-nine . Yeu in London modestly nominated and elected eight , barking like bull-dogs at © very poor man who dared to sit for any other part of the metropolis . Attwood returned Munta , Edmonds , Salt , Douglas , Hadley , Pearce , and Collirs , seven . The Cobbett Club returned three Cobbetts , Nightingale , Wroe , Kichardson , Fletcher , Whittle , and Mills , nine ; making of parties

      most likely to attend , twenty-four in all . When the Birmingham gentlemen ( will that word Buit you ?) resigned , Collins coiked up his nose at poor Brown and others , and said that " they did not represent the people 0 / Birmingham . " Now , Sir , to that Convention I never recommended a single man . I was asked , at By Je , to propose Mr . Deegan , which I did cheerfully ; and -would again , after my trial of him . Wkile the elections wore going on , —[ pray mark this proof of my " despotism and dictation ! " ]—Mr . Lovett wrote to a member of the London Working Men ' s Association , then at Hull , and in his letter was the following passage ;—

      " We have decided upon sending to Norwich , to oppose , Feargns's man , to counteract his preject of filling the Convention with his creatures . " Now , Sir , who is the despot , and whose was the hired Convention ? I never saw a man from Norwich , to my knowledge . I never was in Norwich . I never wrote-to a man in Norwich . I never heard from a Norwich man . I never canvassed a man for a vote during the whole time I was a member of the Convention , except fer my own motion , to remove the Convention to Birmingham . Who can say that I did , or that I ever used any , the slightest influence beyond recommending the return of working men to the Convention , and in healing every difference and dispute in Convention ?

      Sir , I now come to my case . With even such a Convention , constituted as I have stated that of 1839 to have been , you would not have dared , two years ago , to have proposed Household Suffrage and Triennial Parliaments , even to that Convention ; so that we stand thus : —In 1839 , you and I were parties to a compact , by which we stood pledged to tho nation to do a certain thing ; you viulate the compact after two year ' s agitation for it , and I abide firmly by it . Have we , Sir , derived no greater benefit from our two years increased knowledge than to fall back twenty in our course ? Who is now tho traitor ? The man who insolently confesses his violation of . trust , or the man who offers to surrender his office rather than violate that trust ?

      Now , Sir , I come to the ( to me ) most valunble part of your letter . In my address of the 24 : h , I say : — " I have the evidence of a gentleman , of a gentleman ot wealth , of honour , and of station , that this ' new move' vris concocted at Mr . Hume ' s , by Mr . Hume and Mr . Francis Piace upon their part , and by some of the signers of the new prospectus upon your part . " I have it , that ' it was to be done while I was in prison , as it could not be effected if I was at large . ' I Lave it , that its object was to ' ifftct a ' fusion" of the middle and the working classes for the attainment of Household Suffrage . ' I have it , that after the Leeds nutting it was considered necsssary to hold the promulgation of the scheme in abeyance , until a ' suitable name' was decided upon , and until the principles were agreed upon . "

      This statement you indignantly repudiate , and ask for the name of my witness . Sir , if I was a shuffler , I should now say Heury Hetherington is my witness : but I do not I pledged myself to name him ; but you have gone farther , inasmuch as you have proved every word I averted , and much more . Just let me bring Henry Hetherington into court , not for cross-examination , but merely to read over his own depositions in his presence . You Bay : — " The elitor of the Northern Slar , through ignorance , is confounding that which emanates from LjVett and C ' oliins ' s ' CliARTiiM , ' with an Association projected , and then about to be formed , by Dr . Black , Mr . Piace ,

      : iuU others , among the liberal and enlightened of the middle classes , to adopt and carry forward Mr . Hume's pb . n of Household and Lodger Suffrage , Triennial Parliaments , Voting by Ballot , No Properly Qualification , Payment of Members , aad Equal Electoral Districts . £ Uo intention was to fsrm an Association exclusively of the middle ciass , that would co-operate with the Chartists in all just and laudable measures for extending the rights and liberties of the unenfranchised millions , and in improving their intellectual , social , and moral condition . Mr . Hume , and those who act with him , thought that the working classes might be inclined to adopt so large a measure ef reform—little leas , in fact , than the

      whole Charter—if it were fairly and honestly submitted to theiT consideration , and wished to ascertain whutbei the Chartists would join an Association formed for the purpose of carrying Charter Suffrage , without adhering to ihe name of the Chaiter . He requested an interview with Messrs . Lovett , Cleave , WaEson , Hetherington , C 0 IIU 1 S , and Vincent The two latter not being in town , could not attend ; but had a subsequent interview with Mr . Hume on the subject Tnree of the former , Lovett , Cleave , and Hetherington , attended . L « vett and Cleave would not yitld th © name of the Charter—they thought that Mr . Hume ' s Logger

      Suffrage was a large advance towards the Charter , but would not consent to aid a new agitation for anything less than the Charter , or for anything not bearing the name . I differed witli my friends , and thought Mr . Hume ' s preposition sir good and so extensive , that , though 1 vrould never abandon the agitation for the Charter , if 1 saw any prospect of carrying Air . Hume ' s plan immediately , I would give it my best exertions , as I considered it , in fact , the Charter with another nama Messrs . Lovttt and Citave both set their faces against the plan , as did also Collins and Vincent ; and Mr . Hume then said that nothing could be done , and both paities must , therefore , take their own course . "

      Sir , are you now satisfied either that I had the information which I professed to have , or that I am a witch ? What 4 o 1 say ? " I have it , that this ' new move * was concocted at Mr . Hume ' s , by Mr . Hume and Mr . Place , upon the one part , and by the signers upon the other part . " What do you say ? " He ( Mr . Hume ) requested an interview with Messrs . Lovett , Cleave , Watson , Httherington , Collins , and Vincent . The two latter not being in town , could uot attend , but had a subsequent interview -with Mr . Hume ON THE SUBJECT . " Above , you admit , that Mr . Place and also Dr . Black , wore two of the negotiators , but you shuffle about distinct Associations ; but do you not corroborate the testimony of my informant here to a nicety ?

      Again , I Bay , I have it , that it was to be done while I wm in prison . " Now , Sir , connect this -with what is to follow ; but , more especially , with your declaration , that your Association -would open the door for all thost of the middle eJ * s « * bom TBB Siar KOW

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      excluded , and also with Mr . OConnoll ' s declaration ia Dublin as to the primary object of the Aasociotiou I say , I have it , that the object was to effect a fusion * of the middle and -working classes for the at tainment of Household Snffrage . " I quoted " fusion , " as you will see by reference to my letter . I did so , because it was the very term used by my informant Now , Sir , how do you contradict this ? Why , by saying that ft was for Household Suffrage and Triennial Parliaments ; and how do you exonerate yourself ? Why , by saying that yoa , alone , agreed to join upon the terms . Give me leave , now , to ask yon if you dare to call yourself a Chartist ? Why , Sir , the Leeds Association went for Annual Parliaments ; but you axe satisfied with Triennial .

      I further say that the promulgation of the plan was held in abeyance until a " suitable name" was agreed upon , and until the principles were , decided upon . You see that I quoted suitable names also . Now , Sir , at once call me prophet , or confess your guilt Hew , in the name of common sense , could I have prophesied so minutely , and how could the evidence of one witness mora satisfactorily corroborate that of another , tbanyou do that of my informant upon this vital point ? Let us just have your words : —

      " Three of the former , Lovett . Cleave , and Hetherington , attended . Lovett and Cleave would not yield the NAME of the Charter : they thought Mr . Hume ' s lodger suffrage was a largo advance towards ths Charter , but would not consent to aid a new agitation for anything Ies 3 than the Charter , or for anything not bearing the name . I differed with my friends , and ihuvyht Mr . Humes proposition so good , and so extensive , that though I would never abartdon the agitation [ oh ! thou virtuous humbug : ] for the Charter , if / sate anp prospect of carrying Mr . Humes plan immediately I would give it my best exertions , as J considered it in foci , Hie Charier with ANOTHER NAME . " Now , Sir , livofor over , and get over that if you can ; What ! then , you have always considered the Charter

      but a thmg of sound , and the real meaning was Household suffrage and Triennial Parliaments { I pray you what now becomes ot the sophistry with which you commenced your paragraph , of the Editor of the Star ignorantly confounding the two Associations ! Have we not here two distinct parties , Mr . Hume upon the one part , and Lovett , Cleave and Hetherington upon the other parts ; shuffling , huxtering , tricking and scheming how you can , — ( for you pre the worst ) , —by a specious trick of merely giving a plausible " same " to the " move , " direct public attention from the real object !

      Nted I make a comment more npon this paragraph of your letter ? Yes , I will . You know , perfectly well , that there is no euch thing , as any party in England advocating Household Suffrage for any other purpose than to get possession of all our ready-made machinery for carrying Universal Suffrage . You know that those with £ 40 qualification , consider all under as too low a standard , and those with £ 100 qualifications hold the same opinions as to all below their standard . You know that every Chartiat in England would be rejoiced at any extension of the Suffrage in which they were not compelled to sink the only just one , by joining for » clap-trap ; and yet you insolently tell us that you look upon Household Suffrage and Triennial Parliaments as the Charter , in all but the NAME .

      Sir , had I put my name to yeur letter my life would not have been safe—it positively would not ; while you will not be at all injured by it What inference do you draw from this fact ? That you are more popular , and may resort to stratagems which I dare not hazard ? No , no such thing . But that the people are not at all astonished at your desertion , expecting no better from you when the tug came ; while upon me they have reliance ; hence my popularity will be found to measure in exact proportion to what my punishment , upon proof of my delinquency , would be . The people would have no mercy upon me if convicted of treachery ; and therefore do they justly conceive , that in my many trials and contests with you anil your friends I am entitled to their warmest support . Hence , their love for me , and hence my gratitude to them .

      " Ignorant" as the people are , do you suppose that all the hired ingenuity in England would reconciio the above traitorous paragraph to twenty Chartists throughout the laud ? Try it , and then experience will have convinced you . Now , I pray you attend to the summing np of the evidenco .- — Before Christmas I inform the Editor of the Steer of a certain' " move" which is to be made . In January , a great Household Suffrage meeting is convened at Leeds . Mr . Collins ia invited , and refuses

      to attend . Mr . Francis Place subsequently writesa letter to Mr . Collins advising him to attend , for tho purpose of forming a union between the two classes . Mr . Collins and Mr . O'Neil attend , and endeavour to have all the resolutions , and the Address to the Queen proposed by the Committee of tho Working-men ' s meeting , set aside . They coquette with the enemy . They denounce the Committee . They are to , be found running like pet rabbits in and out of tho Times office—the organ of the Association .

      Oa Thursday , Collins attends a meeting of the people at which resolutions denouncing Ministers are passed . On Friday he dines with Mr . O'Connell , and the Association , at a 7 s . (> d . dinner , and drinks the health of those Ministers , and backs the objects by a speech , which is published in the Leeds Times ; and when attention is pointed to one of his declarations at that dinner , it is attempted to be qualified by Collins ! Collins , in reply , asks us ( in the very terms ef your own observation , ) to point out the difference between Household Suffrage , as he pleases to define it , and Charter Suffrage . Upon the day after the dinner at Leeds , a meeting takes place in the Rotunda , where Messrs . Hume , O'Connell , and Roebuck , delivered themselves as follows : —

      " Mr . Hume submitted a definition of what he considered Household Suffrage ought to be , which was to be taken into consideration by the association . He stated that the leading men of the wprking classes generally concurred in the definition , and had promised to give their assistance , were an agitation for such a Household Suffrage to be set on foot Mr . O'Connell cordially concurred iu the BUggestions of Mr . Hume . He considered it as of the first importance that the reasonable portion of the Chartists should be got over to the aid of the rational Reformers . He urged the necessity of some central body being established in London , for the diffusion of knowledge upon political subjects . The public mind should bo saturated with facts bearing on the present gross defects in the representation of the people .

      " Jlr . Roebuck said that such a body was at present in contemplation in London , and he trusted that it would very speedily be set in operation , so as to act in concert with the Leeds Association . " Now , Sir , here we have Mr . Hume stating : — That the leading men of the working classes generally concurred in his definition of Household Suffrage , and had promised it their support . " Mr . Roebuck said that : — ' An Association -was being formed in London , for the purpose , and would , he trusted , be very speedily set in operation . "

      After this , Sir , your battle must ba with Mr . Hume and Mr . Roebuck , and not with me . He says the leaders fcave concurred , while you and your friends are the only leaders who appear to have had anything to do with the subject ; so that I call upon you to contradict Mr . Hume flatly , or call upen him to say who were the parties , if you and your friends were not Subsequently to this came the negociatiocs—aye , subsequently and negotiations : —for Uiere were two ! Previously to ihe first Vincent was in prison , and he attended at the second ; but the Lee < ia meeting not having succeeded according to Mr . Collins's instruction , the thing -was placed in abeyance for christening .

      Thus , then , is it not clear that in the beginning of January you were in diplomatic confederacy with Messrs . Hume and Place ; that you were subsequently confederated in February ; that you sent out yeur address in March ; and now observe that Mr . O'Connell , before it was published in any paper , announced the very terms of pour agreement with Mr . Hume , according to the precise terms of your own letter ; but not one word of this is mentioned in your circular . He says your object is to agitate for Household Suffrage and shortening the duration of Parliaments .

      Pray , Sir , keep the latter object in view , and connect it -with your adhesion to Triennial Parliaments . Then , Sir , to this add the fact of Mr . Place being the author of a bugaboo document signed " An Old Chartist , " and extensively circulated among the " leading Chartists , *' to whom your Circular was sent ; and bear in mind that it wa « circulated just before the Leeds meeting . The object of that document was to scare all from any connection with the old and established move . Then , Sir , add the fact of Tillman , the Secretary of the National Association , receiving letters from Place , Itorett ,

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      Collins , Richardson , and others , " plaguing his life out , " to use his own term , about the " illegality . " Then add Mr . Collins and Mr . ONeil ' s absolute refusal to allow a delegate to be appointed to consult With their fellows in Manchester , upon ths very subject upon which they professed to hinge > their only objection . Then , Sir , add the fact , that on the 20 th MarcU , Mr . Roebuck did me the honour to call upon me , and that he then told me that an Association was about being formed . J replied , that oae was already formed . He answered " Yes , but there are some

      apprehensions as to its legality . " I rejoined , "Of course 00 law will legalize a Chartist Association . " Mr . Roebuck laughed , and said , " It looks very like it , " and added , "They have sent me the rules of their new Association for my opinion . " Connect this with Mr . Collins' admission that he had cpplied to Mr . Roebuck for bis opinion , and then say if any doubt remains as to the identity of the persons named by Mr-Hume and Mr . Roebuck at Leeds , and Mr . O'Conneil in Dublin , and to an object agreed upon , but not set forth in your address . Who told Mr . O'Connell ?

      Now , Sir , I charge you , upon your own evidence , with having entered into negotiation with certain parties , -without any authority whatever from the people . I charge you with having , in that negnciation , compromised every single principle contained iu the Charter . Sir , you are very "ignorant . " You speak of Household Suffrage and Triennial Parliaments as being the Charter . You are not capable of understanding that even

      Universal Suffrage would be robbed of ita master quill by attaching go long a lease of office as three years to it . You don't understand that our eix principles are all necessary features ; and as well may you cut off your nose to add to your beauty , sr extract your teeth to moke you a greater bite , as hope to preserve the essence and principles of Chartism by substituting Household Suffrage and Triennial Parliaments for Universal Suffrage and Annual Parliaments .

      I charge you with having issued a circular with the avowed object of carrying the Charter , while the secret and real object was to destroy our cause , and then compromise our principles . I never will submit to the Thompson doctrine that even if deceived the people are no worse off . I deny it . It has been by such freaks of fancy that tyranny has bean so long up-held iu England . The people are always brave enough , informed enough , determined and able enough to beat tlio oppressor ; but hitherto they have been invariably beaten by the friend , juBtas they were about to triumph over the foe . THET UEVEB SHALL AGAIN A . S LONG AS I LIVE !

      I go on . I charge you with having invited profligate humbugs , as members of your provisional government , to carry out your virtuous principles . You ask me to name . I do—a name that strikes terror into your coward soul—Feargus O'Connor . You iuvited ME as a fit and proper person to carry out your objects , while you say that " The ciuse of Chartism , is t * be sacviflecd to the private and personal malignity of two as groat political humbugs as ever figured in the political urena—D . miul O'CcinnoU and Feargus O'Connor . "

      Now , Sir , have you invited Mr . O'Connell by circular T and which we must suppose you did , although you denounced him , with just as much propriety us you have invited me , whom you also denounce . You may have mads him a party to your scheme , and then have denounced , him , just as you have thus characterised one of your " chosen '' government as one of the greatest humbugs that ever figured in the political arena ! Pray , Sir , what Bort of moral teaching can you expact from mastura thus chosen tor the administration of public education t

      You speak of " being at work in the cause before I was beard of . " Very fine , Sir ; but does that afford any protection to Daniel O'Connell , ( who has been at it since before you were born , ) from your just and wellmerited censure T I should pity that army , Sir , wherein length of service alone constituted worth . And then , as to sacrifices . Believe , me , I never should have mentioned the word ; but as you have , I may be allowed a passing observation . Had your conduct been consistent I should have said that yon had risked much in the lottery of principle , and had tJra wn aprize ; but , Sir , as you have written yourself down as an apostate , you must pardon me for designating your sacrifices as the offerings of toil and dependence at the shrine of ease and independence .

      Now , Sir , I come to the most important part of my letter . I mean the " nest move" that is to be . You havo endeavoured to sell us all neck and crop ; and , having failed , your next attempt is to turn the guna upon my battery , nguinst myself , in order that you may hereafter say : — "Ah , there now , see what O'Connor has done ; he has caused all tlm disunion ; he has divided us ; he has broken us up . " Frc-m what do I infer this ? From two sources . Firstly , because you have done it many times before ! and , secondly , btcauseyour letter contains these words : —

      " The Northern Star , instead of prosecuting the success of the People ' s Charter , by endeavouring to heal animosities , and promote union among the people , is constantly sneering at all those who have for years been suffering for the cause of liberty and equality . " Sir , this is false , from the beginning even to the end ! prove it . ' You remind me of the passionate master , who cut his knuckles against his servant's head , and then kicking him , exclaimed— " d n your hard skull , it has cut my knuckles . " Now , Sir , -when nest you write upon this subject ,

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      pray be consistent , and say— " d n the Star , we have exposed ourselves in it" But how could th « Editor of the Star heal animosities of which ho knew nothing , and of which you and your party have been tho solo originators , as I now proceed to prove , and not a word of wl-. ich has even the Editor ever before heard from me ? Sir , pray attend to the following brief statement of facts . On Tuesday next , I shall have been eight years and a quarter before the English people . Upon the 4 th of February , 1833 , I entered the House of Commons . I sat three sessions in Parliament . I have been five years and eight months an unpaid missionary , and founder of hundreds of associations . I have been

      three years and six months proprietor of the leading provincial journal . I have sat six months in the Convention . I have been the whole time before the public ; and now , Sir , I challenge you , —not to charge me with a chain of errors , or with a smothering heap of inconsist . encies—but I defy you to charge me with one , even one single dishonest , inconsistent , unpatriotic , mean , or ungentlemanly-like act , during the wholo period ; one , eveu one . Now , Sir , rather than cause any disunion , mark what my conduct has been during that period . In 1835 I established the grvat Radical Association . We became so powerful , that in the next year we insured the return of the Dorchester labourers and the reduction on newspaper stamps . In the following year Messrs . Hume ,

      Place , and yourselves , established the Working Man ' s Association , for the mere and only purpose of putting us down . What was your first act ? You paid missionaries to every town where I had established a Radical Associa . tion , toconvert itlnto a Working Man ' s Association . It was a chango ; and changes always retard . This " move "' was precisely analogous with what the present was in . tended to have been . Well , from 1836—from your incorporation till the Convention met—you made London a common sewer of Whig corruption , not daring to avow Whiggery openly , but always opposing Toryism . You were dragged into opposition to the Poor Law , and by main force . What , in the name of the devil , did your humbug Association ever do beyond frightening the real working men in London from the cause from your incorporation to your present " move ?"

      Well , Sir , from that day to the present , it has cost nie hundreds of pounds to defend myself and my cause against you , by increased energy , rather than run the chance of creating the slightest breach by publio denunciation . You have run yonr raco . Sir ; and therefore ou may be judged ; wait till I have rnn mine before you censure ; and if I bolt , or run at the wrong side of the post , as you have done , then do you as I have , summon Feargws ' O'Connor as evidence apon

      against me , as I havjg ^ Q ^ j ^ jrou the evidence « f Henry Hetherin «^ g ^ HpPtor * " , v \ " ' ¦" A reconsideration ^?' tn !? past astoufid ! me . ' - ' j Por years you of the old Association have passed for patriots . In what consisted your tiUe T If y « tt had an entertainment , who were your guests , and who your chairman ? Whig Members of Parllnment If you had 5 meeting , -whtre did you hold it , and -who were your speakers ? Ab the Crown and Anchor , which 70 a

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      could atony time procure , never lacking thirty guineas to pay for it ; while I was obliged to go to pot-hcuscs and -wherever I could . Again , why were M . P . ' b yeur speakers , and movers and seconders of resolutions at these nieetlngs . Yoa were anti-Tory , and sufficiently arjti-Wln " ? from the teeth out , to impose upon the confiding working men ; but you endeavoured to prevent me aud others from speaking at everyone of your palavers ) for fear of hurting Whiggery . Thea , , &a to suffering : Sir , I deny that any length of suffering can justify the smallest renunieiation of principle ; bat , on the contrary , the " poltroon" whase appetite for satisfaction it «" oes not whet tea slave .

      But , let us have a -word which you never should hav « heard hut for your " move . " For what did . Lovett and Collins suffer ? For a resolution which , if not made matter , of persecution , would not have been noticed ; but what waa my condnct when the danger was attached to it , after their arrest ? Why , on my arrival at Birmingham my first motion was to move it again , and for every member to sign it What was my next ? To offer to pay one hundred guineas towards Sir C . WetheriU ' s special fee to go to Warwick , if the Convention would pay the remainder . What did the trial of Lovett and Collins cost the country ? How

      much think you of the £ 200—all that was subscribed for the defcneo ot all ? Why , about £ l *» , in Delegates and Missionaries , and God knows what ; and htir have they repaid us ? Why , ono by walking off from the men' who longed to do him honour ~ upon his release , assigning as a reason that he owed the Government some £ 60 " for advertisement duty , " while the same Government wouU'nt allow me to owe them 2 d ., and the other by conspiring to destroy us . Will I owe the Government any money , or owe their friends , Lord Brougham and Mr . Place , sufficient gratitude to induce me to refuse tho iuvitation of the men of York , oa my release , think you ? No , faith 1 !

      Then , Sir , as to your suffering , and their suffering . Just bear in . mind , that I am the only man who ever has been ia &olit&ry confinement for libel since England Was first peopled . Sir , you appear to forget that I am now in the thirteenth month of that state of barbarous punishment , which is the greatest that Visiting Justices can inflict upon the most refractory convicted felons for one fortnight You don't know , perhaps , that if Mitchell , the murderer , misbehaved in York Castle , that bia greatest punishment would be to be put , witliout ' any change oi diet , for one fortnight ia tuat cell in which I bare now spent twelve months Perhaps , Sir , you are not aware that every letter to and

      from my family and friends , is apened and read before [ receive it , either by the Governor or his underlngs ; perhaps you are not aware , that even yet , I would not be allowed to write one line for publication in the Star , and that every word I have written has been smuggled out Perhaps Sir , you are not aware that I am locked up all day , and overy day alone , and in ono of tLe condemned calls of York C&atle . Perhaps , Sir , you are not aware that when Mr . Roebuck and the Honourable Mr . Wortley visited me , that they could not remain for more than about five minutes , that they were literally smoked out ; that Mr . Roebuck cried

      " shame , " " shocking , " "disgraceful , " " abominable ;" but I havo hot seen a word of coininisseratioa for me , while I have read columns for Lovett and CoIIini Well , Sir , what has my seclusion from the world taught me ? It has wedded me to my principles . It has given me time for-reflection upen tke post and to consider of the future . It has taught me the value of an honest , upright character . It has convinced me of the value of those for whom I struggle . It has proved to me that my exertions have not been thrown away ; and it has determined , me to die or conquer for those who have so nobly stood by me .

      Sir , befcre I commence with the recital of tha many annoyances to which I have been subjected , and the conspiracies which have been formed ogainst me , allow me once more to thank you for your very foolish letter . Without your simple confession , so unlike your usual caution , much weight of proof would have been imposed upon me , and the extent to which the conspiracy was carried might have remained for ever shrouded in obscurity ; but you have brought it all to light . ' and now what must be the joy and satisfaction of the sccedera , at being furnished with so strong a justification for what you are pleased to call their imbecility !

      Now , Sir , one word upon physical force , and then I shall conclude by laying before the public a series of conspiracies , persecutions , and sufferings to which , for years , I have been subjected , without once complaining ; proving , from documentary evidence , that my lifw , my property , and my honour was assailed by hired assassins and spies . I speak only of what I can prove ; and when I conclude , Sir , I skall indeed be dear to the people . When speaking of physical force , then , just bear in mind that , from the 18 th of September , 1835 , till the 41 h of February , 1839 , I did the whole agitating work single-handed , and alone ; and that during those years

      of excitement not one man was brought before a magistrate charged with a single crime ; nor was the . term ever once mentioned at a single meeting . However when you ; aud a parcel sf rascals , imposed j ourselves upon us , with your " sharp shooters" and " rifle clubs , " and " patterns of muskets , " and " cold lead , " and " cold steel , " the wholecourse of events was turned topsy-turvy ; and every one of you deserted , leaving me to bear your burden ; while , though . I never mentioned the word before tho people , yet did I , upon three occasions , justify the use of physical force , before the judges of the land . Who were the three most physical-force men in the Convention . ' Lovett , Collins , and Hetherington .

      Lovett aaid , in answer to my objection on the score of illegality to his manifesto : " Well , I kcow it is illegal ; but what of that ? we must break the law before we can alter it . " Pretty well , methink . t , that ! for a gentleman now so squeamish !! Callina said , in my own presence , that "the first Chartist arrest would be the signal for arresting every aristocrat and magistrate in Warwickshire ; " and Henry Hetherington will refer to his own notes in the Poor Man ' s Guardian , for his peaceable conduct ;

      and he will perhaps say who it was that declared he " had prepared' and had ready for immediate distribution , alisfc of ail the Gun-makers and Anns-dealers in the Metropolis , which list was to act as a guide to the people where to go for arms , in the event of a turn up ; " who also said that " even if this list should be found by Government beforo it was so used , they could make nothing of it , as it was so arranged as to appear to bo \ part of a General Directory , which it was not an unusual thing for a Printer to be engaged in the production of ?"

      Sir , let your own inso . ' ence , in sending such a letter to the Star for publication , speak for the independence of that paper ! Would you dare , they ' being the subject , to send it to any ono of your three middle-class friends , Easthope , Gaorge Henry Ward , or Mr . Young , for publication ? Pi-ay , Sir , when have you before seen a paper publish even resolutions abusing , reflecting upon , and condemnatory of , both proprietor and editor ? Out upon ' you I you know not the meaning ef independence . Yours , &c FEARGUS O'CONNOR .

      Liverpool. Tuesday.—We Are Still Without Any

      Liverpool . Tuesday . —We are still without any

      news of the steam-ship President , now 54 days since she left Ntw York . Nothing is known of her siuco she was seen by the Orpheus on the 12 t , h , the day after she left the port . Couhts oe Justice . —Extracts from an account of the sums paid to Officers of Courts of Justice in Great Britain and Ireland out of the Consolidated Fund in the year ended the 5 ± January , 1841 : — England . —The Chief Justices of the Court of Queen ' s Bench and Common Pleas , £ 8 , 000 each . Tlie Master of the R 0 II 3 and tho Chief Baron of the Cuurfc of Exchequer , i . 7 , 000 each . Mr . Justice Patteson , £ 5 , 500 . The other Puisne Judges £ 5 000 each . The expenses of the Mounted Police , the River Police , and Police-van Service , with superanuation allowancea to the horse and foot the of

      patrol , £ 20 , 000 . Towaf ^ ajfiftaying charge the Police of the Metg | BAf 70 . 289 . The two Commissioners oi'P . o ^ g ^^^ Htf ^^ fle Judge Bench t ^ i ^^^^ mtoj ^ i I reoeires ^ SifooT ih © Hon . Charles Law £ 1 , 000 , Hon . Thomas Kenyon £ 5 496 , and Lords EUenborough and Kenyoa £ 2 08 »\ l 7 s . id . ; . - Iheiakd , —Lord Chancellor ., £ 8 , 1000 * Master of the Rolls £ 3 , 965 , Chief Justice in the Court of Queen ' s Bench £ 5 , 074 , in the Common Pleas . £ 4 , 612 , ' tbe Chief Baton £ 2 , 121 , Tho salaries of the nine Puisne Judgea average about £ 3 , 1 : 88 each . ScoTLASD . —President of the Court of Session £ 4 , 0 * 00 , Lord Justice Clerk £ 4 , 500 , and tho ( en minor Judges £ 3 , 000 eaoi . The Court of Exche , quer ia Scotland was abolished some years ago .

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), May 8, 1841, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct705/page/7/