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      PEASQUS O'CONNOR A 3 V HULL . ¦ j&t , O'Connor aimed abort twenty minutes part lour , pjn-j "wbeo he t » 2 B m ^ bj a good somber of Mi friend * and admirers . Several of rliem accompanied jpm to hiilnn . A fgg Tnmn tea after eight he entered HjsPreemOBan ^ I ^ Se . and VM-zsc&rcd "Wifii several jonjuk oTenlhnsiMtie applaoBe . ] & 7 < rin > mjanimDBily caUsd to the diair , ana aidhe feltmTidi hononred in being called on to piesde on tfest ooeasion . 33 » y were , Ijononred by the -presence of ttemoBt disSnguiihed patriot of ibepres ^ a ^ paiaps ^ snyige . Ut . OGoamat Bad been

      slwsjsionnd the nneompromMng and Tnrpnrofeasable inarf of ttie ^ orkingi [ isn , and tbe enemy of bis oppressor —lebsers ) . ItcwattW ^ Jll ieeaae Wm lMr . ^ Sy * est ) to stand there merely to eulogise 3 fo . O'Connor's character ^ WeBta , ^ t ^^ iiK ^ t ^ j » oi » aafte ! ni of history . 3 ^ iite bialfl * o ^ d be pointed io a » - » precedent , by jges _; et unborn . --TfcBifeetionB had lid iflgh ibr Km , and Iwvi * 3 * P * n » a than . ^ "WiaonVforajer lema * liawo&aiatxodQce to them that esteemed friend of the paca-nssii , Peasgus-O'Connor—( TremBnaonB spplxose ¦ which lasted fa some fime ) . When it had jmhsided

      Mr ^ p ' CqssoB lose , and spoke to tbe following effect —— 34 ri -Chairman , and working dbh of . Hull , It is j mmy ^ earaanjeB J laa a » jaoaonr of Heeiffifjron ^ in * I think I m ^ ter ^ sjy that , however long the time may have ieea ,-no itomgeiaB taken place , of is likely to take plaeej ^ n ^ pnncaplaj- ^ lolieeia ) . Within that period they had seen many and- important yTiawgfm , speh as neither ie 0 H » : they wsrBfiien prepared to witness j fcni every one of these « naB ^ es had bn ^ rhaa the effect of incre&HBg the devotion of the people to the Charter —ibeaTjhesr ) . In plden timei ^ it "was < mly ^ necessary for the leaders of the people to throw up a straw to tars the tide of feeling ; but . now the etate of things is jOterea , Amaw of intelligence has been acquired by the working classes , -and-fiiey tsn fonnd that it is all but

      aocw jwewshort tfS& Peopled Charter . It was for that xeason heiad stack to them through persecution jmi ) prosecnikui , and would oontrnne to < fe » so to the end ^—iapplanse ) . IHs impossible now ibr any - m *" ., be Ins talents or professions -what they may , long to deceive the people . This -was a change , and a creat beneflL- They ( the woddng classes ) -were the greatest power In the ^ taia ; and , aHhongh they could sot point to the statute book , and paint to laws of their framin ? , and » y thi « is an « TMence of oor power ; or to piles of braidings , arid say , ^ ' Behold , here onr power ;** yet they eonM truly » y look HERK and behold cm power—{ applause ) , ^ nee he { Mr . O'Cennori had last aeen San , many of their late popular leaders bad fleserteS teem ; "but in letnrn the ranks haTe been

      ably filled np by those -who have flocked to the standard . Ho portion of the middle classes stand in the situation yon ; the -workingclasses , do ; and , as they "hare failed in iBsi ± cg yon Bunsertient to their desire , you are denounced by then : as " abettors of physical force . " The -GfesrtiifcB iave iteTeriefssed the assistance of the middle classes 3 and they denied the t&arge of Violence . He iMr . O'Connor ) looked npon the conversion of a man from " iVinggism or Toryism to Gh&rtisin to be as great a change as possible to be made in Mm ; * t ? 3 yet ??»* change was apparent everywhere aronnd them . Ibey seres saw a ChartistconTertedtoa Whig or Tory , unless they saw him clothed in thB bine coat of the police , or get some * sinecure situation—( bsar ) . Sometime * they even saw a . constituency converted to Chartism ; as at Nottingham .

      Mr . O * Connari » eact a&nded to the Catholics and Protestants of Ireland , ' and compared them with the Chartists , and "Wings , and Tories , of England . Tiie Protestants make a great ontery about one poor poverty-stricken CrtthoTi t : jdrning them ; but say nothing abont the scores who desert them for -Caaolicity So with the Whigs and Tories ; thsy boasted abont one dfisertisn from Qie Chartist "rafi ^ gj but said nothing about the hundreds -who ^ desert them to join the ranks td tha OiartistB . He iiexi spote of the tad eSscts of nsrestoeted macMnery . AirtmngT < in -Ball they had but two Ssx andjcotton mills , tiiEy lad a large guanSty of other ^ i »< fli » ti . machinery . Sere 'W * - O ^ Connor < xplained the fiifisrenca between Twarrwfl and artificial laboci . Twenty jeaia 330 tbey did not see strajjeers ,

      as now , walking their streets seeking employment withsut "bong able to ~ nnd it . The landlord considers himself better < dF -ffhenhe can get a coat for 16 a . by mastnnery , than when it costs 40 a . by labour , labour isiiiesourcsof an ^ ealth , and wealth is the source of aCpoWEZ . Th ^ y nsret saw aDy portion of machinery going into any Dfihe shops in Mytan- ^ ste , to aakfor iacon , bread , ox cheese , or any article of wearing sppareL Ail the articles of consumption nsed by matfaineryTras a 3 itae * whale oil to set its Joints agoing . JIi . O'Connor next aiQnded to the Jifferfnt reception fcs 3 net Trial is I ^ eflB , the last tvro nights , to "what be Lad fight years ago . TbEnle met witiiscold re" tep&in from yhp - Tniflfftp classes ; last night lie csuld scarcely speak Chartism enough for them—( hear , hear ,

      hear . ) A great ' objection was xaised to their same ; $ st lie "would submit to the delicate ears of the ladies whether Chartist did sot sound as sweet as Whig or Tory , especial ^ when "we found tbe ToryTuled by force , the Whig by fraud , and the Chartist wanted to ide bj persnaaon . This reminded " h'Tn of the old man and Ms -donkey ,. Trho , whea the daatey rsfnsed to draw ae cart , heia a bench of carrots iefore him , aadie immediately ioHowed thern ^ : truly illustrating the principle that " persuasion is better than forts "—{ applause ) . He ~ f ] Br * - O'Connor ) -was the bundle of carrotB , endasTonring to persuade men of all ranks and persnisans to ^ ira in than- adherence io ibe prinraplEs of Cfaarfism . He did not blame them for not joining than ten Tears ago ; "they frsxe then comfortably

      situated and tad not giTen the matter a-considerafion—( heir , hear ) . lEu ^ and was at that moment the greatest snomily in the TTfJria . Sines 2829 the greatest changes SstBbwamade . Iheyliadiad ^ CatfcoDcJEmancjpation , UBgroSlaTery Emaadpationj theBtfgnn BS 1 , Municipal Brfflrm , etc ., &c ; and instead of these eoaf erring bese-Sts ^ npon the-producing classes , they were actually Worse-off than before . 'W » ff ^^ npry hart patrt 1 ? 7 ftfi rh ^ ni , snSiskenSie bite from cat-ottheinnoBih- and poTerty bad iound them withent a penny . Mr . O'CoDnorsezt oJscrlfeea&eesnsB of the ^ ulure of the Reform 3 U 1 e&ectasg to accompliah whai it promised , by taking tbe power from the lanfllordB and ghrinR it to the macbineteds . ~~ ~ Bef {! TBibB j »« ft'g tif "the Beftwn BID porsrty wavsot considered a crime , for 3 provision { thongb

      at * so good as should be ) was made for the poor by the 43 rd of Biz 5 belh . _ After the passing of that MH , poverty . isd become a crime ; and , instead of a provision for fheposr feeynre doomed to a bastile . Machinery < JM not Want them , rfflur as proaneers at ccmsumsa , bet Ss owners vanted ^ free " trade * with all the world . They / wanted to jut English , labour in competition "snti feelabour of the white slsTea of all other countries ; and , in retnm , bring the producers their breakfast , dinner , and supper from abroad , charging as- cost of transit , i = ^ Thai 5 bey deosed ; snd they -would 3 w enabled to do Be ; i £ esnse , ; therei 3 no teal powei in the bands of fibremmEnt ; -and the -QOTemment iave no control orer thsietaflmarketa / As a proof Mi . O'Connor -cited fiis din ^ rence a rsinj day made in the price of flour and laeaa , thoogti tliere had been nof or Tery IHKe-c&SBge in the -wholesale sutxket > Suppose they ga ? e ihssz , men Power to iare » ^ freeteade" in labour ; they could

      aarge&B labourers -what they liked lor what they -gyre them in return . ) Tbsj say their objscfeis to give 11 plenty to flo , cheap Inread , and Ttigh ^ wagea . " ! There ng * er was grater nonsense ; because the Tery fact of ffwmptrmtg of " iScee trade , * , is to undersell the foreign ilaTes in their own market- He wanted to fix their attention to tSe Siamese iicfes . I 6 e Charter , and Us ZxuL . Here Mr . O'Connor yaf e a Imsd descapUon of tuB ^ pabflities of -IheTand , and said eTeryUung they * & £ ndwore was torn tie laud ; and unless they were ai > 5 eto get placed-np » h It , he would not give them a » aap of the finger fox the Charter . The Charter is Sie »« ar » j and TSB lisp is IKE BKB . Mi- O'Connor nEfishJBwed tfeem b . ow legislation stbome coEld bd ' . ^ e < 4 what "freetraders- promise . WDSiyonr goods go to 3 > ruHda , Germany , Prance , or America , they can tsdude them by csehorbitant laiiBa . The land ai Jume is the only thing tiwy cannot interfere with . Hi . CConnoi fhan detailed the evils -of the law of

      primogeniture , and the effect it had in keeping the land in -a stale ol TmcaltiTsJion ; lowing tbe interestaibi supporfaers hadin -m ^ lring the people fcelieTe the land eoald sot produce enough for its inhabitants ; whereas , under a proper state of culture , it would be able to support at least sixty millions . He next fie-¦ vr ^ al jhe emigratjoii schemes of Ellis , G * ey ? ire . to Canada and Australia ; and compared the landlords andeefcfcon-lords bribe JClkenny eats . Gobdea and Co ., 1 » aaia , = ws » aeekiM ^ Joi » "free trade " Tn

      theproiBOB-etiBacbinary . These tn&A darknesses were iiddingiigb . for adherente , and talking loudly ef the boafiis iV wonld String ± © *> f »? y clssSj but"when ie fonnd there was a class in sotaety more Taluable Sun tteyi that was the dan la would con&me to &gbt ti » "bataes of , tgainst erery opp « sitaon . Mr . CContts-seid expbuned ^ ow the monopoly of the land inh&& the great body of tbe people . The landlords * 3 tfflwihsi 4 n « ttryingOTt ihdrfaBicblse , iarBis often * wejTroold make a man as dependent as flTe hnndred ^ isy toHna that land ma aot like conscience ^ they

      « ° nM not stretch jfc Ana Jrt landlerds hold tbeiand »» ifey did £ fjy years aga sli has not l ) een anbSi-^ edjiiaiongQ gTe generations of paupers haTe passed gattfetiiitPncfl { hesa ^~ tEhfy who jsile u " . say , " we ^^^*«> ny too ear ^ r 5 it i » oat or » B fcomse for tte r ^ P 4 of jaanyingJ ^ oreiBbe * good age "; ^ r ~ 5 F *^ to ttinkaiat he < wshtaot tomarr / . — {^^*« H »« N- . Whereas they ^ fc ™^ - ? Wiord-Toxn , Jfed . Jack , or Hany , Z ^ to -FZifo addresses at serooteen to myiady 5 ^ 1 * - > - «• 8 * Bfr ' ** " *> * sweet , andaWe iT ^^^ iasl = Snp > cwB , lor-lnslance , they were w «^ jpt MiiBeoBaaendati 6 n abonttheland , it would 3 5

      ir ^* ** - » alneby 2 n « rA-iMi' annnally ^ Biesaarihe landToias saenfieed this » nni area , ™^ 3 M ke * iffladred mfllJons by patronage , iepresenta-^^ ampeMfiooa . ^ . o ^ aamOTB ^ ae » cnbed e » ^ fr ^^^ rewM&ingiantauity jeanagi , -when their ^^*^»* e occupien W iiiBT » fl ;; aod said-thai ^ «^ 1 ai » to the preaeni , BngliBh" manufactures ^^ J ^ ai . eoBHQnaiiy losing-their character in the ^^^^ aatketi » that nowTre haro bard work Z . M » . ^ tiaaser . _ HsQjen stated Sat a Tniter ^ ' ^ a ^ Batffli < a : « Cettoa Im * * jaid -Mr . « , ^ r ^ - ^ ' giro a » people ** land * an anjtfanj j e j ^ . ^^ . America fi » y he to

      _^ Mland , « a ^ the mBis . - In xeply yj * - *®* " *» » ia , flat in America "ttiere was 5 P ^» a demand - for agnealtBisl labour , and l > y « w means the labourer knew what he was -worth . -Ene master iaannictniff was obliged to go inte

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      the field and bid hist a high price fox bis labour . Ha ( Mr . O'Connor ) did not -wish , to binder , any i one from going into the min- —{ bear ) . Let the labourers be once placed on their ionr acre farms , and then the fflannfantattg -will go to him and say " Well ^ you know -what you can make on the land } I "Will gife joa the same , or more , for lighter wort '" Mr . O'Connor next said the retiring grooer did not live in ; the hoEse he was bom or made his money in , bat went ^ o the land . The statesman after spending the best of bis days in the bnsy haontst of life , betakes himself to tiie land ; and the American operative leaves the mill , after he has spent a few years in business to enable him to return to end his days in comfort on -the land—{ applause ) . Mr . O'Connor next allnded to Lord

      Sronghain , that political nondescript , who had began to | alk of making " fixity of tenure ™ treason , ' and threatened that it most be put down by the strong arm of the law . Pretty talk this from the man who said that the people must be thrown on their own resources , while he himself agreed to i accept a retiring pension of five thousand pounds , which had 1 » en * 'j £ r * d" at Jour!—( hear ) . They all knew that sesBe wss worth as much as it will bring in ; the market ; and nonsense worth no more . The nonsense of lord Sroo ^ baai when lie talked " of Mags feeing roliea in the gutter for little boys to play at football with , " was aplauded . Were he ( Mi . O'Connor ) to speak such nonsense , they would think he might be better employed . They were told they were not in a fit state to £ ojoy the franchise . He would admit they were

      sot aHMathematicians , Logicians , or Historians ; but they were in possession of what wan of much more value , they had knowledge and information . Here Mr . O'Connor alluded to the anomaly of England at fthe present time , when it contained more money and manufactures than ever it did ; and yet , at the ^ a me time wai deeper steeped in poverty than ever had bean kntfwn berore—ihe&r ) . If that was the case , which nene would deny , why "were they no » to bare a choice of remedying the evils which created such an unequal distribution ? Oar enemies dec 3 are our Tiews " wonld lead to revolution , anarchy , an equal distribution of property , and general confusion . ** No suctfthing . They would bring such a change , that the production would be- increased an hundred fold : and is there no man- in

      BOt 5 et ? who trcnia not be benefitted by tnat ? This unequal distribution has made the Government so poor that they have been obliged to tax tbe Queen upon the throne . ' When they cannot live by tbe customs and excise ; that moment they are obliged to tax tbe accumulated capital to make up the deficiency . Mr . O'Connor allndsd to the small value of capital in comparison to what it had been twenty years ago ; and said , let them look north , south , east , or west , and every where around them , and they would see every where disaffection . In Scotland , the squabble in the church ; in Wales , t h * turnpike-gates , and their nocturnal destroyers ; ¦ in England , breaking-up amonj » the Bishops and clergy ; sad 5 a Ireland , the Repeal ! Mr . O'Connor then allud 6 d to tte altered state of society . The trader

      was ashamed to five in the house he had made bis feteae inj tfce ijaeea was not satisfied with the mansion &f her father ; the manufacturer must be elevated to a princely mansion ; while the poor mechanic is obliged to go into the cellar . Their labour was the "battle fieia for all who lived without work ; only lor that they wonlfi have to be like Nebacha&neHfir , j to feast' npon the grass spontaneously , growing on the land . He next alluded to the difference bet-ween himself and Cobden . He ( Mr . O'Connor ) never charged inyone of them a farthing for nib services , while Cobden never travelled a mile , ate a meal , or slept on a bed in Ms agitating tours , but What was paid for out of tiie anti-Corn Law Lsague Fund —( hear , hear ) . Sir . O'Connor nest described Mr . Cobden ' s manufacture

      of decayed shopkeepers into Herefordshire farmers , much to the Emussraent ^ of his audience . Cobden ' that Instant , while MBras declaring for their rights , was taking advantage of their poverty , paying about eighishillings a-piece for goods woven in Paisley ; and after expending about four shillings more npon them at his printr-wotkB in Lancashire , he then sold them for twenty-eight shillings each , netting a profit of 16 s . on each pieceof goods sold . ( Hear , and cries of " Shame . " ) Don ' t say " shame" till you hear the sham * . While GobcSen was thm £ ! lins his own coffers at this enormous jate , te bad reduced bis workmen ^ wagesJlve-pence fin every stventeen-pesce they earned 2 ( Shzine . ) There * the man who thanied God "be was not born a Cattiolic . " Lst them cry " shame" aow if they liked .

      Mr . O'Cosnor next passed an high eulogium on " the immorta ; Paflier Mathew , " who has brought the people of his "unhappy country from a state of beastial inebriety to one of soberness and tbon ^ tit . Yea . the ; irish trere tTiTning their attention to thB land . What was " fixity ol tenure" but tbe land ? He next stated tbe right jof the people of Ireland to tbe Repeal ; and described the struggles he had had twenty years ago with the *• WhiteboyV' in order to effect it . " Sappose , ** said be , " France was to rule England , as England roles Ireland , wonld not the English cry ont against it , and against a Parliament legislating for them in Parish " ( "Yes . " *) A Parliament sitting in Londoa is as repugnant bo Irish feeling cs French dominion would be to the EngHsh . The EngliEb have a conntry . The Irish

      have not a country . The Bepeal of tbe Union would taa in its object without tbe extension of the suffrage , or , in ether words , tho Charter . He would enfran chise the Catholic man , instead of ( as at present ) the Protestant land . Bepeal of the Union is a principle ; and it-is the interest of the people of England to go with them to establish that great principle . What was the reason the French , with a population of above forty millions , were satisfied with a constituency of two hundred and eighty thousand ? while the English were HDt satisfied with one of three times tbe nnmber . The Preach bad more practical liberty than the English have . They bare no laws of primogeniiure ; snd tbe citizjn , as National Guardsman , was allowed to be in possession of arms to defend his liberty . He had gone over large

      domains in that country , of three or four thousand acres , more than half of which belonged to the peasantry , the happy po&itioB of whom he beautifully described . He next alluded to the cry of the middle classes not joining them , because Jeargua O'Connor ias bsen so " physical farcy . " j ( Langhter . ) They can't do with the Charter name ; but say , ihsy will go for the principles . They make U 3 like two sects of reli ^ pn , with only -a shade between them ; bnt ever having the greatest snimositigB towards each other—ihearj . Why did lie come among them then ? He was a barrister and had property of his own , and had every thing that sould be -wished for- He came because he saw they were worthy ofall , fornot being led astray by faction . la alluding to the iate Conference , be said if it had consisted of 501

      members , and 500 had voted for another cams , he wofiia have still stuck to the old ene , and have gone 011 the same as now— ( applause ) . Hehad suffered so mncb for it teat lie had become , as it were , wedded to it His family had lost above twenty thousand a-year for iL S ^ ntxt went into the nature of the prosecutions against him for the last ten years , and described the battles ha had had at Manchester , Birmingham , and Nottingham ; ana if he had not been wbat he professed , would treatments cb as that have made him so 1— ( applause ) Suppose a child is naughty , yon flog it till yon impress the mind . Whig and Tory bad so flogged him . so impressed the Charter npon his mind , that the devil huaself ecnldnotjget it « nt—( tremendous applause ) . H » next allnded to his action against the Times , which

      would he tried at Croyden that day , where hehad given them an opportanity of proving their slanders against him—( bear ; . He would put his life in comparison with any bishop or parson in the world . If he were a drunkard , gambler , &a ., it would soon be bronghfc against him . What did they thick of the notion of the © 3 d physical force men of 1839 , coming down among them in 1843 , to preach " moral force" arid complete sufixaee 1 Keesom , the then friend of the Ante-Cora law Lssgue men , saying last nigbt , in that room , " he » io opposed tie repeal of the com laws , was a knave or a foci , aad he who opposed the League was s tyrant and a despot . " JA cry by Neesom of rt false . ") Mr O'Connor thought bis Mend Ueesom -would fcavs been sis well received at Leeds preaching physical force , and

      he CO'Gonnor ) at Hull advocating " moral force . " They only -wanted Organization to secure their position ; and this i © expected they would accomplish shortly after ih 9 . fiRh or next month . They only wanted Organize tion to get the Charter , and then they would destroy all the evils ia tbe constitution . Although they ^ ere not meeiius as they used to do , they were thinking among themselves , and silently but surely extending their principles . They only wanted twenty membera in the House of Commons to sit with the speaker and rise with the house , to obstruct all public business ; and he hoped at the next general election they would get them . He reminded tfcem of the saying of Leech | wtolisd often told tkem the Charter would never come to them—( hear ) . If a naughty child wanted a bit of bread and butter , and says " come mother give me some bread and ovtter , " the mother would tell it to ask *

      in a proper manner . If they were to go to Peel and say , " Come Peel pive vs Bus Charier , " he would say they Hjcst ask as they ought before they could have it —( bear and laughter ) . It wsa now more than eight years since he told them a truth . He told them he would , sell them . He now told them tbe same , snd the price wastbe Chatter*—lapplanse ) . He wonld put them up by snetipn j Bnssell wonld bid for the Wbiga j Pee for the Tories , and lie "would knock them down wb en they tame to the Charter—lapplanse ) . Peel iaid fce -would throw himself upon the people for support , if he eonM-not carry his measures . The only pay he ( Mr . ? O'Connor ) wanted wasto see them all happy and com ^ lortaHein their homes , their wives well dad / and their children fuMy and healthy , cheerfully playing around them . Se could ftien g * in peace to his grave , and aj . with tbe noble Peruvian , "Thank God , this , this is my work . *—( tremendous applause which lasted for some

      fame ) . Mt-Keeso : * ascended the platform amid groans and hisses ; -and afi » ttey bad in partsnbsided , he said he was an individual at all . times prepared to give an account of bis stewardship—lOhl ) Mr . ; O'Connor was the champion of ChartlBm , and he ( Neesom ) begged to set Jsimright respecting a statement he fbad made the other night He did not say he who opposed the Bepeal of She Com laws , was a knave or a fool , aaed he who opposed the League was » tyrant and a despot —\" ' jva did , yon flifi" ) . Here , Mr . Neesom made an afcack on the SUr and its reporters , and hoped the reperter would 3 o him justice . He ( Neesam ) stated the Com Laws to be a monopoly , and that man-who opposed a monopoly was a knaro or a f ° ol—llanghter ) tr « answer to the other charge " ^ as : —Ht bad taken no active part with the Anta-Cora law League , who were

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      endeavouring to remove a monopoly , and he said that sum was a tyrant who vronld oppose them in trying to do so—( renewed laughter ) . Mr . O'Connor had stated that hia friend ^ feesomi as be pleased to term himlaaddtheconfnslon which prevailed through the meeting , we could not hear the conclusion of the sentence ] . He could not give him any credit for calling him friend He abouM be a hypooaKte if he ware , to calf bimsslf Mr . O ^ Connor ' s friend- for lie knew ie was no anch thing . ( Mr . West and iondy both tried to get Mr . Weeaom a hearing , whi ^ o they partly accomplished ) As to Mr . O'Connor ' s talk of being at Leeds , asa physical * force Chartist , and he ( Neesom ) here as a moral-force CaartU £ - ( laughter )—he would allow Mr . O'C . to state to them that hehad been a -physical-farce Chartist . He

      bad had certain ideas . of physical force , but they have passed out of his mini , add b . e nsw declared that the people are neither physically nor morally prepared for a change —( disapprobation ) . He had great attention paid Mm by a gentleman on his right , without his coat —( this was Mr . Lundy , , who was endeavouring to stop the clamour of those around him ) . Ho was no finality man . TTopeopieliad ^ aj right to make lawn this year which should he binding for ever . Mt . O'Connor denies that ever he was a professor of physical force ; and tiie only difference there is between us is , he denies that he ever professed it , Sfhile I acknowledge it Did he not call it physical , force ^ when he recommended the people to gala their rights by every moans in their power 1— ( laughter ) He would * sk Mr . O'Connor if he

      ever knaw an instance of a national leader deserting bis friends in tbe hour of danger and turning his back on them ? Did he ever at Bristol say he would have the Charter before forty days passed or the ^ soldiers should pass over his dead body ? i ( "No . " ) How do you know ? I bave only got to say , that lam prepared to prove be did . He has denounced ; ever ; man who was a leader that did nst suit him , till he has no more to denounce —^ disapprobation . ) ( Mr . West had again to endeavour to persuade the people to hear him out . Mr . Richardson , from tbe body of the ball , said they were only showing Chartist freedom ; in answer to which Mr . West said , be hoped that geptlamen wonld endeavour

      to show a little Complete Suffrage good manners . ) I beg to state that I was never heard either to pray or cry in prison , but prepared to bide my time ! I did sot cringe and cry to get ; out of prison before my time I ( Regular confusion ) . ( Mr . Lundy iagain begged of them to hear him out , it would be such a beautiful speech !) Mr . Nee&om { was new very much out of temper , and began to abuse Mr . O'Connor with nothing but personalities , calling him s coward , &c Tbe disapprobation was so great that scarcely a word could be heard , and the Chairman rose to order , and wished Mr . Keesom to go on without indulging in personalities , but he still proceeded with them till the audience would no longer tolerate him .

      TBE REPOBlEa rose and said , Mr . Chairman , Ladies , and Gentlemen , after the insinuations that have been cast by Mr . Neesom upon the Norther * Star , and the generality of its reports , I hope you will all endeavour to seetheSfcr next week , and jadge foryoursalves whether this meeting is reported one-sided 01 not ; as it -97 III ever be my duty , whether employed by Mr . O'Connor or any one else , to state nothing but facts as they appear before me—( hear ) . Mr . OCONNOB rose saluted by vollies of cheers . He said his authority about last night ' s meeting was Mr . West ; and that Mr . Sieesom had confirmed his words . He would ask Mr . Neespm if he knew anything of a resolution passed in 1841 , to oppose the Leagne . ' He would now answer the aiixhty charge of "

      advising the people to' use ail means in their power to gain the Charter . " The reason why he had not recommended physical force was , he knew it was out of their power to be successful To tho charge that he had said he would have the Charter in such a time , or the soldiers should walk over , Ms dead body , his answer was that he said at Birmingham to Attwood , > lnnl « , Douglas , the Cubbetta , &c . " If you continue -with its , we will have the Charter before Michaelmas day . But these parties ran away ; the Government then broke into their ranks ; and tho getting of the Charter was at that time defeated . It -was too much , however to tannt him with the failure , and charge him with the defection and cowardice of others . ' Had he ran away ? No , he stayed : and ho

      got his share of the Government Chartist pay in a sentence of eighteen months solitary confinement in York Cas £ e J But Mr . Neeaom says , " I cringed , and cried , and crept out of jai ! before my time . " If I could have passed through the key-hole I would—( laughter )—but I never bt gged to be let out before my sentence transpired . It was in consequence of the Doctor ' s certificate that my Ufa was in danger that I was released . As to bha ( O'Connor ) being a : coward , he would let Nottingham , Manchester , and Birmingham answer . Was he a coward when he had bayonets stuck in his body in his endeavours to return Bepeal Members in Ireland ? He had worked at thirteen contested elections , and never received a farthing , even as a legal fee , though he was entitled to it—( cheers ) .

      Mr . W- G . Bubns , from the body of th « Hull , stated , that he wished to ask Mr . O'Connor two questions . The Chairman invited him to the platform . I While he was ascending it , he was greeted by cries of " Moscow , " "Dundee thief , " *• Traitor , " shouts , groans , and othu marks of disapprobation . ) When they had partly subsided , he aaked Mr . O'Connor if he had ever applied to him , personally , by delegate , or letter , tot the loan of £ 40 , as had b&ea repeatedly stated ? Mr . O'Consob replied ithat Mr . Barns' daughter , a young and unmarried woman , wrote to him in Mr . Burns's name ; and , when ; he declined tbe request , he was exhibited in the Leeds Times , by Mr . Burns , either the following week , or the weak after that , as the " Cased lion . " :

      Mr . Buuns said he believed the Chairman had a relation that was transported ; but had he ( the Chairman ) anything to do with ; that ? He ( Mr . Sums ) was not then at home when that letter was written , and had nBt been there since . He . was quite irresponsible for what his daughter might take into her head to do » JThe next question he would , a& £ Mr . O'Connor was , as he denounced the use . of macMaery , { Why was it he used a steam eneiue in taking off the impressions of the northern Star ? Mr . O'Cossou—So long as its circulation was limited , we took them off by hand , and did not use machinery till it was impossible to supply the demand by manual labour . M ? . Bdkns—Do you mean to affirm that the demsnd canrjet be supplied fcy manual labour at present ? Mr . O'COKKOB . —I do mean to affirm that we can't do it now .

      Mr . Burns retired to the body of the Hall , saluted on every tide by disapprobation . Mr . West rose and eaid , he was glad this gentleman ' s questions had been so readily answered by Mr . O'Connor , and particularly as it had generally been said . " O'Connor durst not wake his appearance in Hull during Mr . Burns s » toy" / . ' He introduced Mr . Smith , who proposed the following resolution , " That ¦ we , the inhabitants of Hull , take this opportunity of the visit of Fergus O'Connor , Esq . to tender him our grateful acknowledgments for his almost superhuman and untirsaz exertions in bahalf of the

      impoverished and oppressed working classes of this country : and , as we have long watched his every action , and ever found him the unpurchaseable friend of the suffering poor , we feel it our bonnden duty to declare oar unabated confidence in his patriotism , his wiedem , acd bis discretion , as the leader of the great movement for national regeneratien . Nor can we al ( ow this opportnnity to pass without expressing oar special gratulations for the glorious victory achieved in the la to trials over Whig and Tory tyranny and persecution 5 by the frustration of the plots and schemes of the well * known enemies of the people . "

      Mr . LUNDY , in rising to second the ebova reaolntion , felt lumself b'ghly honoured at the opportunity of listening to Mr . O'Connor that night . He considered the personalities of Mr . Neesom were quite unbecoming & man . If Mr . Neesom would attend that roam on Monday next , be would prove Mr . Neesom to be a traitor and a coward , or he would never attempt to prove anything again . ( Here Mr . Richardson caused en interruption ) . Mr . Lundy , in continuation , said they were to let him have his own way , and to mind and don't bite their tcelhj Sot if they did , he expeeted to get a job to put fresh , ones in—( laughter ) . Mr . O'Connor had stood by them through trouble and

      distress , persecution and prosecution ; he had spent a fortune in advocating their cause . Ha ( Mr . Lundy ) did not thick there was any one present who would not agree with the resolution , and give him their thanks for his able lecture . The collection that night had been a large one ; but Mr . O'Connor received none of it ; it went to pay for the rent of that room and other expenses they had to contend with—( hear ) . They did not like to make a charge , but were at times oWiged to resort to it —( question ) . He hoped they wonld excuse him for rather diverging from tbe question ; but he wished to let their enemies ts well as friends know bow they spent their money . He cordially seconded the resolution .

      The Chairman put the resolution which -was earned without a dissentient - Mr . O'Connor returned them his thanks , and proposed a vote of thanks to their chairman , whom he bad « ver known aa the successful opponent of both Whig and Tory . ; Mr . Smith seconded it , sad it wan passed -with , acclamation . : Mr . West , in responding ^ said tbe best thanks they could tender him would be to register themselves members of the Notional Charter Association . Three cheers were then given for O'Connor—ftree for the Charter—three for Bepeal of the Union—three for the victims , and three for the Chairman .

      Mr . O'Connor , before he left the room , said that one whom they had hitherto TegiBtered . among the victims was no more . jPoot WUUanis , the companion of Frost and Jones , had "been hung ; in Tan Diemana Land , for killing an old : rasn . This announcement caused many to go away with a heavy heart

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      THE POLITICAL VICTIaj fund . siSs i' ^^ K ^ - 'P' ^^^ delegated to toe | by the Conference . a <« nwnn » ** k « ^

      „ ™¦* J Jjjp I do indeW ^ evVttaT ™ ™ m l £ P * been pIac ^ a "tana P Position SS ^ SSXL ! . " ctedUn , o 4 » d ^« j ^ - iussia » fcsLTssa ?^ ™ n ° in « ? nUy of knowi ° * J for Joshua Hobsbn and JohnXJIeave ate not yestertf . y-made friends : they were co-labpureH land co . victim « too ) in the gloS rtrUg f > Jt 80 mfi Se " *>**• 'or a free press- the " unstamped " ^ stamped them friend . * Mr . Hobson therefore , I feellassured , will readily acquit me of any "STt w'W % rtfl h 6 to be P «*« " » a » y offensive , 7 wiJ & * - t ! toe aealt isomewhat more ££ & ? L I . « ¦ ¦ ** lnstan ^ » more than probabte that ' . 'this most nerDlex m * and nnn ^ s « ff

      ?^ f * i *™ been aJtogettae ^ avoided : I do TfB f ™» f ? r « **** PnWiely proposed the appolntmeat of ] the Manchester Cominittee—the only point at whtoh we are reajly at issne-ihe ought ( I say it with all deference and respect ) to have addressed some such communication to me as this j—« Friend CLEAVE , ^ Urgent and kflEeoting appeals have been just received at the Stor-office , on behalf of the Political Victims . You ara the treasurer of the fund . Do , therefore , communicate to me , per return of post , What amount of fund yoa have in hand , and how you propose to disburse it , Somettilng must be done , and that quickly . "

      If I had eveaj delayed replyinR to such ft communication as this , the editor of the Star would bave been perfectly justified— -n&y , he would have performed a duty- ^ in censuiing me , and proposing some plan by which you would have g *» t rid of such > wrong-headed , indolent , and unfeeling fellow of a treasurer as I shsuld have proved myself . But , as yoa know , no such common act of courtesy was exercised to wards me ; and hence the cp ^ sequent mlannderatanding . As regards the paint upon which we diffar , I reiterate again and again that I am anxions to co-oparate not atone with the Manchester , but with every other Local Committee . I Repeat , too , that the people of every district should immediately elect a committee , seek out the victiEDS { In their own locality , and then forward me ( as the legitimately appointed treasurer ) the names of ; those victims—the number , ages , and circumstances of each family , and such

      suggestions as to the amount ef relief necessary for eacb case as Buoh local Committees would —from tbeta xeBttlenoe on the Bppt , and personal acquaintance with the respective claimants—be best qualified to supply . If this plan were generally adopted tbe Victim fund would be more satisfactorily disbursed than if left exclusively to either a Committee at Manchester or tioa Treasurer in London . Bjit I must repeat something more , and that is thati I conceive a General Committee should oe appointed in the same manner that I was appointed the . General treasurer—viz , by a National Conference , and not by any local body whatever . Yes , 8 ays : the Editor of theater , but the Manchester Committee is merely proposed as a pro iem Committee . Well , then , t d » not perceive the necessity , and deny its existence altogether , for any such pro tern . Committee—especially as we are so ( speedily-to bave a Conference . To this the Editor rejoins tnat : —

      "The manner in which our proposal for the establishment of this [ Committee pro tern , ha * been received by the country at large , makes It , for all purposes , as good as if appointed by the Conference itself ! Nearly every Chartist ttkatity have voted titafr acquiescence with it ; ttot one has voted against it The present and last week ' s Northern Star affords as good twv expression of Chartist nation At opinion on the point , as it is possible to obtain under present circumstances . WE certainly look uppa the appointment of that Committee ( Manchester ) and the duties assigned to it , to be na national as itf can be V—Northern Star , Aug . 15 th , is-13 . ; , ¦ . , . Well , then , my friends , I have searched the two numbers of tho < Star to which the Editor ao triumphantly refers me > and will now just direct your atteu * tioo to tbe result of my search : —

      EXPRESSIONS jof the " NATIONA&-AS-CAN-BS" OPINION reported in : the Northern Star , July 29 . 1 . Sheffield Council—say twelve members . —vote approving of the Editor ' s suggestion to -transfer Victim Fnnd to Manchester . 2 . Huddersfield Council—say twelve members—same vote . ' 3 . Golden LaneLocality Meeting—say thirty presntresolution in favour of •» General Victjm Fand , ' * unaccompanied by any opinion as to election of Committee . " National Opinion" reported in the Northern Star , August fitb : — 4 . Brighton mpeting of Cap of Liberty" section of Chartt 3 t 8 , Probafciy not more than thirty present . Vote approving of J 2 iitpr ' a suggesUoa . 5 . Halifax Defegate meetiug . Eight present . Same vote . -.- ¦ •¦ ; 6 . Carlisle Conncil . Say twelve present Voted a collection for Victim Fnnd .

      7 . London © . legate Meeting . Saytwenty-fivepresent . Unanimous vote ' % approving of a LOCAL Committee at Manchester , and also in all other districts where Chartist victims may have resided ; such local Committees to act conjointly with Mr . Cleave , the Treasurer appointed by the Birmingham Conference , transmitting to him the names p . nd circumstances of the parties applying , and their opinion as to the amount of relief required , " &c . &o . < gf Had all the meetings above-mentioued assembled together as one meeting , there woxvld have been less than 130 persona present . Of these about sixtytwo , less than fttt ^" , ? constituted the " national-as-oan-be " appointment of the Manchester Committee . The London delegates unanimously passed a resolution adverse to the plan , and the remainder ; expressed no opinion other than ; a mere hope that the paople would uphold the Fund . '

      Thereupon " ton Committee of Management for the Carpenters' Hall locality" appoint such * 'national-ascan-be" pro tern . Committee , There was not even a public meeting , but a Committee assemble on Sunday evening , and elect p . Committee from a Gorjimittte ! Is this such a' national expression of opinion as I should be called on to obey ? Is it in reason such as ought to set aside my appointment by the Conference ? I leave you , my Friends , to determine . I will not hazard even a remark upon this point , lest it should be said that it proceeds from some of that ? ' hot blood " of which tbe Editor speaks , but which certainly does not flow in my veins .

      The Editor asks ? in last Saturday ' s Star " What is to be done ? Are each party to stand staring at each other , and there the matter end ? " To this I answer that tbe victims are tbe mlg " party" at ' which I have been " staring "—to tbetr benefit alone should I look placed as I am . The Secretary of the Manchester Committee says the same . " Applications , " writes he to the Editor , ' have been made , and each casa is being ; investigated . " I rejoice at this assurance , because it shows that bdtb pajrties are much better employed than iu " staring at each other . " I hope that other parties in other districts will apply themselves to their woik in the same manner . Hoyle and Williams will then have shamed yon— -the Chartist body—into doing your too-long deferred dtoty to the victims . I hava no means of ascertaining , as 1 should have , what information

      tbe Manchester friends have collected ; but I will tell you what I have been enabled to collect I must first remind yoa that last week 1 received an application from Williams and ] Hoyle , on behalf of the seventyfive victims in Kirkdale gaol . I must refer you to No . 131 , of tbe Charlisl Circular , for a correct copy of my reply to that application , it having been incorrectly printed in last Saturday ' s Star ; the centre paragraph ef my letter having been transferred to the end , and a form of return ( which I j : requested Williams and Hoyle to fill up ) having been omitted . The EUtor certainly gave an abridged statement of the forms in question , but I desired that the form itself should be published as I sent it . conceivingjtha it might ba aJvantagoousIy adopted by such local committees as ore or may be established . ' Here is William ' s and Hoyle ' s reply to my inquiries :

      Kirkda / eGaol , Augustll , 1843 . Esteemed SiR-fYoae letter of the ttb instant we have received , and agreeably to your instructions , we have prepared two reports , from which you will be able to form a particular ( idea of the cases of the men therein named . In report * No . 1 , there appears only one Chartist , and in No . 2 , eleven ' Chartlsti . No doubt this will appear a very small number ; bttt there were amongst those who were sentenced tof sly months imprisonmeut , and | who pleaded guilty , la very large number ; and amongst those who will have to remain in prison after thejpersons named in the : reports will have been liberated ^ , there will be six . Notwithstanding there are so ifew who can be said to have belonged direcUj / to the ChatUafc body , w « i ©» n state that the whole of jthem are Cnartiats In principle ,

      and at heart . We therefore sincerely trust , that there will be no dieticction made . Yoa and oar friends generally will nfl ^ ct that the whole are Buffering the croel and or . jurt laah of the . taw ; and as they are a section of the unjustly persecuted millions , we trust that the policy , as well as the justice of making no distinction Will at once be apparent . If the cause of the people is to progreBB , there is nothing in the world can give it a greater impetue than to take by the hand all who have been unjuaUy immured within the dungeons ; for it must be quita clear , that if such men are made objects of public sympathy , it will at once induce them to join that cause in which you . and we have bo deep an interest ! There ate many appeding cases that might be selected from the reports , especially that of poor Kearnan , who baa died here , and

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      whose wife died from the murderous blow of a Policeman , previous to hia trial , and whose son is now suffering in this gaol . It is the wiBh of tbs Chartists here , that no dtitinctfon should bemade . They are even willing to 8 acriflce what might otherwise be given to tt « m rather than thai thereat of their suffering fellow prisoners should not receive some relief . We need not Inform yoa that these poor men will iiave to face a dreary winter , and with debilitated bodies be destitute of employment ; but we feel

      convinced that the benevolence of your heart will at once prompt you to make the moat indefatigable exertions for the welfare of all , and therefore we leave the matter in your bands , confident that you will enter into our feelings , and cause , if possible ! that to be done for ua , which you would pray for were yra in the sitoatien of the prisoners , on whose behalf we have written this letter . Your reply , when convenient , will greatly oblige your very humble and most obedient servants , j Isaac HoviE , James Williams .

      To Mr . John Cleave . The two returns which accompanied the above letter are highly creditable to the industry and intelligence of our friends Williams and Hoyle . I have written to the parties to whom reference is made in these returns as knowing the prisoners enumerated in them I hope t shall be enabled next week to submit to you the result of the inquiries thus instituted , together with a copy of the returns made " by Williams land Hoyle , and the decision in each case . I await with anxiety the appearance of this week ' s Star , trusting that it will contain seme satisfactory , and

      really " Nationai-ae-can . be" answer to the question addressed to you in my previous letter— "Whether other than Chartists are entitled to relief from a Chartist Political Victim Fund" ? You pill observe tho generous and afftictiog offer of the poor Chartist victims in Kirkdale ( as communicated by Hoyle and Williams ) , rather to relinquish any claim they may have upon the fund , than that their fallow-prisoners sheold go unrelieved . But , however greatly we may admire this admirable trait of generosity , jwe muat yet remember that the question with us is—not what -we might wish to do , but what we should and cad do .

      In conclusion , permit me to express a most fervent hope that tbe misunderstanding as to the appointment of the " Manchester Committee" will not—as the Editor of the Star fears—" eventuate in hot blood , " but that it will only give rise to a noble rivalry , in at once seeking out and relieving the victims in our great cause . I am , your friend and fellow Chartiat , John Cleave . London , August 15 th . [ On this we have but a fewwords to Bay : and tbafc is to reiterate the disavowal that in suggesting the appointment of a Committee at Manchester , we bad any intention of " getting rid" of Mr . Cleave , as treasurer . In making that suggestion , aa we have before explained We but proposed to bring into existence the machinery that had been employed before \ for a precisely similar object . That machinery worked well then . We fancied it would do so now . I

      The error , however , or misunderstanding , has all arisen from the non-observance " of a common act of courtsey" on our part We are Wry for it We feared wounded feeling was at the bottom . Great parade is made of the " probable" numbers attending the meetings , at which positive expressions of opinion were given in favour of the proposal we made . Now , this " setting-forth ' is more ingenious than fair . It may do to say , that a Delegate Meeting only counts eight , or twelve ;| and thus sink all the electors in tbe persons of the represented . On this rnle the very body that elected Mr ] Cleave Treasurer , was only " a meeting of some 139 persons"I Therefore , on bis own showing , ( if it be good far anything ) the appointment of the Manchester Committee is as good as his own / i

      Bnt is not this , as we before put it , mere child ' s play ? Is it becoming of us to have a Quarrel as to who shall give the funds to the distressed . ] There is very little to give . That is the cause for regret ; not who shall be the distributor . j It will be sean that Mr . Cleave has not explained why he did not object to the appointment of tbe Committee , with its proposed functions , in the first instance . There was time enough to have have done so , without letting it be appointed first , and then objecting . It might have been more courteous for us to baye written to Mr . Cleave in tbe way he suggests ; but tbe letters of Hoyle and Williams were intended for the ( public ; and our observations on them were for the public also ; and were made

      publicly , and without reference ] to any individual or party whatever , other than those named in the documents on which we commentedJ It is time that this " pretty ] dispute" was euded . Once for ail , then , we disclaim all , any , the least , intention to offend , or slight , or pass over , or " get rid of any man or body of men , in connection with this dualness . All we purposed ; all wejaimed at ; was to call public attention to the grievous ] wrong we were committing in suff ring the wives and children of Chartist Victims to starve to death ! and we wanted to set a going some machinery or other to get them relieved . This was all we intended ; and we feel that we had a right te expect co-operation and aid , ( rather than difficulty , in tbe quarter where the latter haa manifested itself . ]

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      UNIVERSAL BBOTHEUHOOD . LETTER XXII . TO THE EDITOR OF THB NORTHERN STAR . Sin , —In my last letter , I endeavoured to pout-fray a faiut outline of the presentj position of the social , political , and religious affairs of this country . From the heavy pressure of important matter upon your columns , fourteen days instead | of seven hayo elapsad since I wrote ; and tb . 9 downward movement in the meantime has been so rapid that this letter might well be filled with new evidences p t decay . But as the

      time for preparing for tbe great Chang * that ia to come will . necessarily be limited , in proportion as tbe destruction is rapid , I shall merely ask your readers to bear in mind , that I am not regardless of events as they pass ; and that it is also their duty , calmly and coolly , to look at all new movements ! for they are all the necessary preparatives for their ] improved condition ; and I shall now go forward to the next division of my subject , namely , ' * To examine the various remedies that have hitherto been proposed to remove what has been fonnd oppressive . " J

      The improvements and discoveries in mechanics and chemistry , aided by the general diffusion of the elements of knowledge throughout society . have placed the people of this century in a differeut position to those of any former period ; and when they j shall have been enllghtoned to discern truly their own interest , nothing will be moie easy , plain , and simple , tkm the introduction , as it were by magic , of every measure necessary to give high prosperity and happiness to the people of this country ; and / through them , to extend throughout the world those high and noble gifts which the Great Creating Power 0 / the Universe ] has bo liberally and bountifully provided for the use of his creatures . Steam power , aided by superior mechanism , an £ assisted by tho daily growing intelligence of the people , has been the moans of introducing changes which never could have been contemplated By the people even of the last century ; and these changes ara the merest trifle , when compared with what could immediately be done in this department .

      There is one man alone , Mr . J . A . Etzler , who is soon to arrive in this country , whose views you will see represented in the letters of Mr . Stollmeyer , now being inserted in the Star , who possesses ideas which appear most simple and practical for the introduction of powers as much beyond anything we now have , as the most powerful engine yet constructed , is to the unassisted physical strength of a single uneducated man . Knowledge and power may now be procured to any extent that can possibly be conceived desirable ; and there are all tbe elements at hand for giving to every individual what he may require ; but there is one thing wanting that cannot be too soon , or Coo

      eagerly sought for , os the bond is to unite us for every good work , and this is love . | Nearly two thousand years ago , a precept was delivered to his disciples , by one who was intimately acquainted with human nature , to the following effect : — "That they should love one another ; " and in describing this feeling , he says , " It has been said , thou sbalt love thy neighbour , and bate thine enemy . Bat I say unto you , love your enemies , bless them that curse you ; do good to them that j hate you ; and pray for them which despiteful ly use you and paraecute yeu ; " and it will not be until our practice is in accordance with this precept , that we shall enjoy all the benefits that aro in store for us . j business is to eall

      1 mast not , however , digress ; my your attention to the essential jpoints of difference between the preseat and former periods of human history . We have now plenty of power , plenty of knowledge ; and when we have an equal amount of love , we shall immediately place Ihia power a&d knowledge in such relation to the oniyeraal good as shall supply all liberally -with every thing necessary for their well-being ; -whereas , at every former period , the main body of the people were ignorant and uninstruoted , and were the dependents of a few who could not see bow others were to be provided for as well as themselves , and who were therefore afraid to act liberally , 'lest it might produoe their own destruction , and that of their immediate relations and friends .

      To the reflecting mind it must daily become more evident that the universal good vis the only road to individual happiness ; and the indications on all sides of us testify that , however alarming and terrifying events may for the moment appear , -we are on the eye of procuring advantages such as man never before possessed . The love of war appears to have subsided to 0 great extent among the people ; and although ambitious or disappointed rulers may desire to revert to it , they ore very considerably chocked by a far more enlightened general public opinion than has ever been

      known before . Religious disabilities have been mncb removed to what they were ; and although men are Btin too much shocked by tbe expressions of those who cannot believe with them , yet an ] immense difference in this respect exists between the present and any former period . A desire for association has also been gaining ground among the people of all ceantries ; and when they shall have made a little farther profit experience , they will be in a state to assist most essentially in the introduction of the new order of things which it will be my duty to ] point out

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      In examining the various remedies that have hitherto been proposed to remove what has been fonnd oppressive , I-must first call your attention to the present position of the British Government As I « t » tel in one of my early letters , it is most highly advantageous that we have what ia considered a strong Conservative Government ; and every friend , of erder mnst rejoice that such men as the Duke of Wellington and Sir Robert Peel are entrusted with the task of calmly watching passing events , and adopting such measures as shall be rendered necessary by the circumat&atcs that are to arise .

      It is to be hoped , that no one will nocecessar-Jy presa npon these individuals ; for , however painful the position of the mass may be , theirs is equally to ; and I have it on-no common authority , that a more nniiappy man does not at present exist in the three kingdoms than , Sir Robert Peel , aa he has come to the cjavJetioa tbafc 2 ve oafc of six of bis party detest him , and express it , and the sixth only profess friendship from tha hope of remuneration . We cannot have a batter view of their state of mind than was given in their respective places in Parliament during the past week . On Tuesday night in tbe Honse of Loi'ds , the Doke of Wellington , asreportel !¦/ the-Times , says , "I feel confident that all that ou » d be dono has been done in order to enable the Government

      to preserve the peace of the country , and to me « au misfortunes and oons 6 qaenc 8 s which may result from the violence of tbe passions of those men who unfortunately , guide the multitude in Ireland . My Lords , I do not dispute the dangers resulting from organization in that country . I have stated it pufalic ' yon more than one occasion . I do not deny it—it is aotorioas , it is avowed , it is published in every paper all <;? er the world . I do not deny the assistance received from foreigners , who are anxious to have an r . pv . ortunifcy of deteriorating the great prosperity of this country . I don't deny a ? l t&is ; but still I say , I feel confident that the measures adopted by the

      Government have been such that they will be enabled to resist all , and ultimately to preserve the peace of the coontry . '' This was spoken by the Duke "with regard to the affairs of Ireland ; and every good man , even the mostardent of Repealers must rejoice to hear it Whilst confessing bia ' owu inability and that of his aasoeiates to give relief , or rather justice , to Ireland , hq very wisely limits all his endeavours to the preserving of order ; permitting the Irish people , calmly , firmly , and temperately to examine every bearing of tbi 3 most intricate question , and to obtain such an amount of practical experience as Bhall direct them to the true path for their redemption and consequent saluitfon .

      Sir Robert Peel , on Wednesday evening , also speaking of Ireland , when replying tot some strong observations of Mr . © 'Israeli , wiiohaa hitherto , acted . atlrely with him ; remarked , ' tbe Right Honourable gentleman says , he ia surprised at the apparent aya ^ hj and calm composure with which I view the present stn . e of things in that country . I assure tao Right Houocrable Gentleman I view that state of things with n . » other fatlings than thosa of deep anxiety and pain . I know that I have done all I could . " These are I believe admissions made in all truthfulness and mest painfully made by the respective individuals . The " beto of a hundred fights" has already found in one very imperfect moral organisation of a Bection of the people , 5 power far greater than Napoleon could ever bring against him j and as to poor Sir Robert , the reading of his speech muat disarm his most powerf ol opponent , if he eaa but give himself time to reflect npon the mental change that must have taken place in him since the day th-i he accepted the reins of Government .

      The Duke however , and Sir Robert , as wen as the other members of the Cabinet , in common -with all other classes may most hfcartily rejoic 8 in the knowledge that a remedy will be at hand iu due time . There is a power beyond all they see , or know , or perhaps have leisure to thiDk of , that iB , under the divine innaeuce , new ' actively employed in laying a sure and certain basis for man ' s future happiness ; and I trust they will all be made large partakers of it The government are-the instruments of this power in the preserving of peace and order ; and as they perform their duty well , whilst they continue to do so , they are not likely to meet witb . any effective opposition . They admit that they have no remedies to offar ; they will therefore be glad to hear of any , from any quarter , and I have BO doubt they will in due time eagerly listen to them , and th « ir adoption will be as tapid as the preparation of tho minds of the people will permit .

      The first , remedy that T shall call your attention to , is tha temperance movement of Father Mstbew ; and a most important one it is . As far as Father Matliew ' s public career has gone , I have not known a single deviation from the Universal , and bia efforts hav ^ been crowned witb proportionate success He has t > £ en under his caw a most important preliminary step towsrdsa universal brotherhood , and is a brilliant example of what ona man can effect , who is able to act practically what he theorises . The influence possrsaed by Father . Mathew would appear Biiracnlons , could we not discern that the laws o £ nature are uniy ^ rs < -1 , and that a single person in harmony with the la wt which govern the universe may extend his influence as that harmony can be brought into contact with othera prepared to- become the recipients of the Divine kr ? c

      Whether we regard the moral , intellectual , ht physical well being of xo&o , temperance ia of the highest importance ; and must not be confined to a mere abBtinence from stimulating aod fermented liquors , bu . pervade our whole beings in every action , of our liv « s , er we shall not be prepr-red to overcome those obstacles by which we are aarrounded ^ or to enjoy that happiness which is now destined to be conferred on us . The value of this step in progress cannot b » better shewn than in the immense change made In the people of Ireland . Relieved as they now are , from t \ . t confusion , strife , and discord , always consequent npun

      inttmperance , they are becoming prepared for the manifestation of that farther light which is being exiubited to them ; and this will in its turn again make them ready for being farther acted npon , aniti they may soon be so placed as to enjoy an amount of happiness which they are not at present even capable of conceiving the desire for , in this , or any future state of existence . There appears now every probability that tho exertions of Father Mathew will daily becoma moro and more efficient , and that he will overcome all the evils of intemperance , and thereby prepare all minds fir tha reception of those high truths that shall develops witb unerring certainty the path of progressive hanpmcua to

      man . The next remedy that I have to notice is the agitafcaLion for ths Repea ! of the Union with Ireland ; a subject that should occupy an entire letter instead of b inj ? crowded into the small spaca now left ma . As , however , your Bpaoe is valuable and my business crowds upon me , -I can only say that this agitation , although far short of the Universal , and one that will not ; be effected in any manner resembling thie present wishes - -o £ its promoters , is a step in the right direction . Many of tbe shackles and burthens now imposed upon the Irish people will ho removed ; and when this is done , ail parties will be in a better position . . for discerning what is best for them ; and they will advance in pro «

      portion as they use the knowleGse thty acquitd in harmony with the universal good . Mr . OCoaaell promises fixity of tenure in laud , plenty of occupation for the people at good wages , and the removal of the church revenues to educational usrs , as the highest advantages that he " can at present hold out j bnt ho will soon be made to . discern that the commonest capacity will be piacea far above being agitated for such purposes as these ; and in the meantime he cannot do better than go on , giving and receiving that experience which will adapt him for still higher purposes , and enable him to increase that great amount of good which be bas already been made the instrument of acquiring for his countrymen , and through them tot humanity at large . I am , Sir , your obedient Servant , William Galpiw . Concordinm , Ham Common , Surrey . Auttiit 14 . . 1843 .

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      HeEElBXE aiTJHDBRS . —At the Stafford Assess on the 9 th , Cbsdes Higginson ; aged 26 , a farm labourer was convicted of the murder ; of hto son , a boy of five yeaa of age , by burying him alive . While a witness was nnder examination the prisoner admitted tfee fact , and said , "I put him inialive—that is all I did . " James Satoliffie , sged fi 8 , wks convicted at Chester on the same day , of tbe marderi > f hia wife , on the 22 nd of June last , byBtabbing her in the abdomen with a knife . Botti prisoners w « re sentenced to be executed .

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      Serious Collision between FT B . M . Shi p Elec-TRA AND THB FfiENCH FISHERMEN ON THB COAST of NfiWPOWfDtAND . —The brig Science , which arrived a * Curk late on Friday night , in sixteen days from St . John ' s Newfoundland , haa brought over James Tobins , Esq . with despatches from Sir Joki Harvey , the Governor of the island , to the British Gofernment . Taey relate to a serious collision yrhich . took piace , a few days before the Science left St , Johaa , between her Majesty ' s ship Electro , of 15 It

      # u 5 s , and th ^ French fishermen . appears that the fishermen had begun to take bait on British ground , were repeatedly warned off , but refusing to obey , were fired upon by the Eleetra , stationed there for the purpose of protecting the British ground , when one man was killed ari 4 several wounded . Tiiis untoward collision had excited considerable sensation at Si . Johns , and the Governor had deemed it of such importance as to forward despatches home , by Mr . * Tobin , on the day of whose departure » French frigate had arrived to demand explanation .

      The Right of Visit and op Seabch . —Mr ™ ~—7 r oae of the deputy sheriffs , of manners most polite and of bearing most gallant called yesterday at a house , ia executioo of his duty , where ae met an amiable and interesting young lady . "I am come , madam , " said the orgaa of the law , calmly rawing ^ is hat from his head , and making , at the same time , a gentle inclination of the body—** I am . come madam , to pay you a visit t " "Sir , "said the lady , " you are welcome . —Pray , be seated . To whom , may I ask , am I indebted fox

      tbi 8 unexpected . acfc of courtesy I " " Why , the fact is , madam , ' * said the deputy , •* I have an aUachmeat for certain Articles of propm * Which I have reason to believe are secreted in tbi 3 house , and fdrwhich I feel bound to make a searba . " ** Really , sir , " said the lady , "from your manner when you first entered , I imagined it was fox myself you bad the attachment , and I therefore bade yoa welcome . I must now tell you , however , that though in favour of the right of visit , I am decidedly opposed to the right of eearehj so with yoor permission I will show you to the door . "

      Mr . T had too much native gallantry in him to offer any opposition to tbe will of so pretty a lady ; so , putting his grey castor on what phrenologists call , the chamber of the brain , he hade this female follower of tho Cass polioy , a " very good morning , " arid withdrew . —N . O . Picayune .

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Aug. 19, 1843, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct664/page/7/