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      My F&iesbs , — The duty that I imposed upon ^ y of commenting upon the Lancaster trials and rf riving » brief namtire of the causes which led ^ ^ e crimes charged against myself and fifty-eight ^ v gjs , has so far taken up my time this week , that T fon » d i * impossible to "write my letter upon the Taad . To * khoar of analysing the evidence so as to v ^ - ibe whole case in all its bearings home to the ^ sanding of the simplest mind , has been of a ^ frtL which I had not at first anticipated , and the _ 2 fc of our real persecutors has go crowded upon ae in my progress , that upon the whole I find it a -ork of great labour . ¦

      Hie trials are complete in No . 7 , now published , md the woik will be completed in the text , which irU ' . e <* itain as formerly promised , a critical review of the evidence , together with a history of the tura-OT and revolution of August last . I the less regret the postponement of my letter npon the Land for this reason—because I have been fer some time engaged in writing a work upon

      pracjigal farming , and I qo not wish to hash my subject too nwcb until it appears in a complete form . I hope fcr ; be second week in June to publish the first of Si lumbers of a work upon the above subject , of sach a nature th&i thtsa who are now ignorant will , after perusal ^ not only fully understand , but heartily approve the principle by which I hope to see happi-Bess , contentment , and peace brought home to every working man's door .

      I also hope to make the work so cheap that the poorer maj possess himsslf of it , while I . beg to jgsare you that the difficulties in the way of pub-TjsiiiBg mere ephemeral works of the kind are very great . In the meantime I shall continne the subject generally in the Star . Jfow , I will give you one of the responsibilities imposed upon those who bring out mere ephemeral works . The Trials at Lancaster were sold at 73 ., yfnxh appears dear ; but see the expense . The eempoation of each number cost £ 25 6 s . ; 3 , 000 of

      ejj&w&s sold ; ta » t put upon every copy for compogBOB alone , more than 2 d , ; then the paper of each cost within a fraction of lid ., thai makes Sid ., then tiis printins costs £ 1 a thousand , or id . each , tnat makes 3 ji . ; thenl paid £ 41 for the manu script , that Bikes nearly upon the whole number , -3 d . for each , ¦ irhich makes 4 ^ d . ; then the wrapper and stitching and pasting , and other incidental expenses , costs B £ * riy 1 ° . npon each copy , that makes 5 } d . and then the publisher has 2 i upon each , which makes T ^ d . ; the } d . -0 = 3 being my share for great pains and labour . So that vou will find that it is only in an

      extended sale that the labourer can be saved from be and responsibility ; and add to this a portrait from a stttl engraving , bills , advertising , & . c , for ¦ which no charge is made . This is entering into details with you , which is quite necessary , as my object throuRh life has been to place myself in a snudoa to meet my calumniators , one instance of tl » jrsdeiice of which yoa will learn from the aaswer which I am enabled to give to the following paragraph that appeared in the Times of Tuesday

      "Even Mr . O'Connor himself , who boasts bo mnch of bis disiEterested eerncea and sacrifices in the cause of ChariisEi , is charged with being a vea&I and timeserving poblic character . The following charges are made against him : —That he accepted £ 28 for lectarirg and assistirg at Mi . Sfcorge ' a contest with Mi . J . Walter , ten ; that he dtmanded £ 19 from Mr . Bogciz for his service * at the late contest between Mr .-Gisboms and > Ir . John Walter . Jan . ; and , though last

      wt least , that he received from Mr . Sturje ' s committee the sum of £ 5 for an active agent , to whom he only paid £ 3 , patting the remaining £ 2 in his pocket Hz . O'Connor , aa a matter of course , denies those ctarges , bat his accusers allege that they can prove tfr * rn Some ether circuinsiantes in the " Ijod of the north ' s" character hare come to light , which argue aaght bat disLnterestecEeis or sacrifice , and which hire lowerea him rexy much in the eyes of his late lAmireM . * *

      Kow for the answer . I hekebt ottxs a sb-¦ WA £ D OF £ iO'J , TO BE PJUD AT THS OPJ 1 CB 07 MR . Joss Cleave , No . 1 , Sboe-lxse , Fleet-street , TO A > "T PEK 5 OS WHO SHALL SATISFY JLXT THEES XE 5 OF ANY P'LITICS , ALL GT WHOM SHALL BE SiKED BT HIMSELF , THAT A . VT OXE S 1 SGLK IHPCTASKJ 5 15 THE ABQY £ PARAGRAPH HAS AST , THE SLIGHTJSl , TOODAIIOS " I >* PACT . Sow , then , wha : will Mr . Walter say to that I } &i . O'Connor denies the charges ; his accusers allege that they can prove them . The tribunal of iiree = hai ; be ail chosen by Mr . Walter , and he may be one of them I Feakgcs O'Co ^ . nob . Himnersmith , May 17 th , 1843 .

      As I bave everleoKed to a cheap press as the best means of instructing the working classes upon all questions affecting thtir interest , I have undertaken to furnish an articl- ? upon the all-important , every-other question-absorbing topic of the repeal of the Legislative Union , for each number of Cleave ' s Qtartis : Circular . This I perform as I have done every other poor service for the people , gratuitously ; and ail the reward I ask or covet , is that my countrnnen in England will read those articles with care and attention . The first will appear in next week ' s number of the Circular . Feakgcs O'Co . vnob .

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      HIXBAM . —Mr . Beealey lectnred in the Moot-ball , bare , an Thursday week . The sum of Ss . 5 d . was collected and handed to the leetaier , as the first contribute cf the Hsxhara Chartists to the fund for the suppcrt of tbs lecturer for the Northern District . OtDHAltt—On Sunday last the previously an * notffitt-d discussion on the land question was ad jonrsed fran the Cuanist room to the open air on Oldham-Bd : » , -wi- _ T 2 Mr . O'Connor ' s letter was read from the TSsrSifrx S ' . ar cf last - » reek , which was listened to with peit atTca-. ion . Shortly after the c- nipsny had _ seated

      ti = iLir : T £ ! en the green Bward , two of the police passed bj hit c : d rot interfere . At the conclusion , the meetiEfw' . s tcjoumed to Sunday next , at two o ' clock in tie sltrraorn . This snh ) ect is the all-absorbing topic i-se . In the evcciD ? ilr . Clark , of Stockpoit . delivered a terrtiie en the capabilities of the land and the means to obtain it . On Monday , Mr . Bell , ofHeywoed . delivsrtd his tecccd lecture on the necessity of ft cordial taifn bet-wiit the middle and working classes for » Eore tSriez . t rtpreseiitation in the Commons' House of Pariiaatr :. Eath the lertnres were listened to with

      5 « L ,: r . tcnno 2 . siid gave general satisfaction . SlLSTON —The Chvtiits cf Siliton and the adjako : hiiiiet s n . et on Sunday , at the house of Mr . Jchn ^ erptr , ; o ;\ rs . i society for the jurpose of propagatins ; djEs x ^ itre pr : rc : j ] ts . Six men "were cho * en to act as ccBsdili .-rr . T-. ; -i .: Y : awwg is a list of the names and Kupatij-ns : —CLcrlKS Merchant , stonemason ; Bnr . ter ° sbvn :, frissriFc .- k-knftter ; Simuel GUI , ditto ; Thos . Morris , d : tt : ; Tht-u . is Harris , miller ; William Harris , coal-iEiier : K J . O ^ bora , fiamewojk-knitter , Enbl 1 ^^ ; Jo- _ n PeppuT , grocer and news-agent , sub-^ CTtt 2 rT itAailKGTOK . —On Sanday last , three sermons o acdirsiis , -were dtliTertd in this town , by Mi . " O'Neil ,

      w Jj ! TT *> "r : c ^ , i . rr » T *~ _ r . - **» ., » A ^ - ^ n . - , tfiA mnwnintr /» rtn _ w -o ^ EimsLini . Tie a : t--dasce in the morning con-^* -fra cf about ihree hundred persons : in the afternoon « & atttbir was ir , creiscd tc about five hundred , and * £ evetiag - s n . ee'iur Tras attended by nearly a tbonsand aoiTidnaj . The iii ^ inz cf apjiropriate hymns was Produced -c ^ jj -j ^ e test " effect , £ nd the greatest order * a d iirtDik-n were prtsi 7- ; eil st the respective aasemf ^ - On the following , 7 tr . Lif , 3 Ir . O'Neill delivered a Iscuire in tie itmv ^ izitce rocra , on the subject of the P *>? pW& Charter ; and on this occasion several hundreds « tci lotrnspiopie tvalled themselves of the oppoi-•^ ity to acquire iiioriaation respecting the real merits « & doennient -wfeich had liitheito been identified in their all

      ? £ ^ 5 -wiih that is violent and unconstitutional Ine andience comprised many of the middle class of ¦ oa etj ; -witii B few oI xi ^ s higher classes ; and the re ?^ riu of the lecturer in elucid-tioa of the seve ral Pcuiis , or propoiitions , requisite for eniuriug Jin effective » JK « E of representation , -were received with the highest ¦ t&tti and satisfaction , and it 1 e the opinion of out « £ iiren here , that more has been accomplished i ° this wr& -wrii iii q ^ j ^ e / p of i ^ dBjs , in the removal " ¦^ juaice , ard in the establishment cf the People ' s barter , in uj e hearts and aSWctiocs of the people , than ~ T Mtquently been effected during the entire period « oar agitation .

      K 0 TTIN 6 HA 2 I . —The Chartistfl met at the Demo-^ e Chapel , JUce Place , on Sunday morning , wben it f »* resolved , "That all tccounta of monies collected r ° * t&e pBbUe , ( after having been « anctioned by the nrt *? 6 el ^» te meeting , } be publicly read in the chapel , ? ° a Ji * t a committee of three persons be appointed to * f » y contribatiens upon the various localities , to defray «» eipesses of tie late demtnstration . o > ' v : Pt : BI' 1 C ME £ " - > I'G was held at the above place , « Ja onday evening , to consider the propriety of a meet" * u > the Market-place , when it was agreed that a n qniEtum be sect to the Mayor to call a Public Meetwl » h >! onds y «« xt , for the purpcEe of petitioning PWtotfcn ; to rtpeal tie Irish { Union .

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      MANCHESTER . —At a meeting of the Council the plan proposed by the London Committee for calliug a Conference , to be held in London , on the 26 th of the pres ; nt month , was read from the Norifiem Star of Saturday last , and after some discussion the following resolndon was proposed by Mr . D . Donavan , seconded by Mr . Lane , and carried unanimously : — " Having seen in the Northern Star , a request , or notice , calling upon the country to elect delegates , for the purpose of attending a Conference , to be held in London , having for its object the consideration of the best mean * for the

      re-organizstion of the National Charter Association , we , the members of the Council , for Manchester , express our determination to take no part whatever in the business transacted on that xlay , on account of the very ahert and insufficient notice that haa been given to the various localitios ; nevertheless we are willing at some future period , when the members of the Association generally have had an opportunity of expressing their opinions , to co-operate with our London brethren in the all-important object of making such alterations in the plan of organization , as will render it more csnducive to promote the best interests of tbe movement . "

      Carpenter ' s Hall . —On Sunday last two lectures ¦ wera delivered fe the above hall by the Rev . W . VJackson , on the priDciples of practical Christianity . The lectures were well receive ! by the large and respectable audiences , and at the conclusion of the e \ ecing ' s lecture twelve nevy members were enrolled . A gentleman of the name of Smith gave the sum of two shillings and sixpence for Iho furtherance of the Chartitt cause . OIJ 3 HAM . —Mr . Thomas Clark , from Stocki > ort , delivered a lecture in the Charter Association Room , on Sunday evening last , to a large and respectable audience , subject , thelaad and its capabilities . At the conclusion several questions were put to the lecturer , which fee av . s-wered to the satitfaciiou of his audience , and also the parties making the ioqairies .

      MOSSLE ? . — On Tuesday evening a lecture was denvered in the Association Room , Brook Bottom , by Mr . Wm . Dixon , from Manchester . At the conclusion of the lecture a very handsome collection was made for the General Defence Fund . This small village has already subscribed £ 4 to that fund , and are now actually engaged in getting a second subscription . We hope that the other localities in South Lancashire will imitate their praiseworthy example . TODJttORDEN . — Mr . Wm . Dixon , of Manchester , visited this piace on Sunday last , axi ? delivered two excellent lectures in the Odd Fellows' Hall , to numerous audiences .

      NEWCASTLE . —The adjourned meeting cf delegates from the Coucties of Northumttrland and Durham was resumed in the Tyce Dork Tavern , Sonth Shilda , on Sunday , Mr . Curry in the cbair . The minutes of th * previous meeting having been read and confirmed , and the state sf ibe district ascertained by the delegates present , resolutions "sere carried fixiug the salary of the district lecturer , :. r > d appointing Mr . Beealey as lecturer for the next three months . Messrs . Hall and Sinclair tendered their resignations as district treasurer and secretary , which were received , and a vote of thanks tendered to each of them for the manner in "which they'had distharged the duties of their office

      since their appointment . Mr . Wm . G'lflllan was duly elected as district Secretary , and Mr . Southern , jun ., cf the Tyne Dock Tavern , Smth . Shields , as district Treasurer for the -counties of Durham and ^ oithnmberland ; and after disposing cf some local business , it was agreed that the meeting of fMt o &tes do now adjourn until Sunday , 25 th June , wten it will be resumed in the Chartist Room , Clark's-passage , ( opposite Rotnuson ' slane , ) Sunderland , at oce e'dock in the afternoon cf that day . —Any locality wishing the service of Mr . Beesley , may be accommodated by giviDg a week ' s previous notice to Mr . Wm . Gilfillan , joiner , Tyne Djtk Tavern , Long-row , South Shields .

      The meeting in the Chartist's Hall was addressed by Messrs . Swallow , S . Davis , and B . Watsyn , with good effect , on Sunday evening . The Chartists of Xewcaitle acd Gateshead held the « "weekly uuavEtsa meeting on y . onday evening , Mr . YouDg in tbs chair . Toe minutes of the prtviuu ? meeting having been read and confirmed , Mr . Sinclair ( in the al ?» ence of Mr . Smith , gave a report of the delegate meeting at Shields , and stated his reasons for the course he thought proper to adopt at that niefetiug , which he thought met the wishes of a majerity of his constituents .

      SONDERLAND . —Mr . Beesley delivered his second lecture on the land here on MuDday night last , in the Chartist ' s lecture room , Clark ' s Passage , to a crowded and very respectable au . ieace . Discussion b * in ^ invited at the conclusion of the lecture , several questions were asked , and satisfactorily answered by Mr . Beesley . Three new members were enre ; leU . Debating Society . —On Sunday last , the question " Is it , or is it not , the uuty of Christians to feeconie Chartists ' : " was discussed by the members of this society ; and , after two hours' debate , it wss adjour .-ed until Sunday Dext , when the question will be fully gone into . The working men of Sucderland are earnestly invited to attend . The debate to commence at two o ' clock , p . m .

      LXVSRPOOI * . —A public meeting was held here in the Association Room , on Wednesday the 10 th , to take into consideration the conduct cf Mr . Baron Gurney in the case of Mr . William Jones . The meeting was crowded . Mr . S- Cowan was called to the chair . Mr . H . Jones moved the first resolution , declaring that" the conduct of Baren Garney , upon tha trial of Mr . William Jones , was dizcraceful and ur > cunstitutional , and that a petition be presented to the House of Commons , prayiug an inquiry into the case . " Mr . J . Lowden Rtcondcd the motion , which was carried . Mr . E Jones proposed

      the petition , which w ^ s seconded by Mr . William McKnight , and ordered to be forwarded to T . S . DttLCombe , Esq ., for presentation . The Council held their usual weekly meeting , after settling seme preliminary busineia , it was resolved that "The leading article in the Star , npon the * Irish Repeal / be again read at our Wednesday evening weekly meeting . " At the usual -weekly meeting , the Council took into consideration the case of Mrs . McCartney , and a resolution ¦ was passed that the Treasurer pay to Mrs . McCartney ten shillings .

      BRAXJFORX ) . —On Sunday afternoon , Mr . Davies preached in the open air , in front of the Odd Fellows' Hall ; and in the eveaiDg , in the Urge room , Batterworth Buddings . Collections were made at each sermon to defray expenses . Ox Svsdjlt Et £ S 7 . \ g the members of the Council met in their room , Butterworth Buildings , when the following sums were paid as contribution : —Wapping , Is . 6 d . ; Little Horton , Is . lOAd . ; Central Locality , 2 s . ; George ' s Srreet , 4 s . ; from the Room , I * . ; it was resolved , " That each locality 4 o take into consideration the propriety of having a Concert and Ball , on Whit Monday , the proceeds to defray the rent of the room . " The meeting adjourned to Sunday evening , at six o ' clock , when ail the members of the CoiiDcilare requested to attend , as the books of the Association are to be audited , the agency accounts settled up , and other important business to be brought before the Council .

      O > Monday evening Mr . Smyth lectured in the Chartists' school room , White Abbey , on the best mode of repealing the corn laws . On Moxdat evening the Repeal of the Union Associa : ioD , met at the house of ilr . DaJy , Broadsiones , when Mr . O'Connor ' s speech at Manchester , was read from the Northern Star , and the Editor ' s comments , amidst the cheers of the meeting . O > - Tuesday evening a public meeting was held in Butterworth ' s-buildints , to take into consideration the establishment of a stationer ' s shop , the profits to go to forward the people ' s cause . In consequence cf the small attendance , the meeting was adjourned to Snnday evening nest . O . n Monday evening a large meeting was held at White Abbev , on the milk monopoj , wien resojutioas were nnan ; moui . ly carried not to purchase milk at the present high price .

      HALIFAX . —Mr . Joha West delivered an eloquent address in ths Chariist meeting room , Pellonlane , on Tuesday evening lait . Although we had intimated to the people not to open the above room until Sunday next , notwithstanding thia notice , when Mr . We = t was announced to appear , the room was filled to suffocation . Af er Mr . West sat down , Mr . Davies , of Hawick , who was preseHt , delivered a pithy address . —All communications for this place to be be addressed to Mr . B . Bu ' ttrly , Back

      Albionstreet . BIRMINGHAM . —Aston-street . —At the weekly meeting of the cou ncil , the minutes of the Conference were read over and confirmed , after which Mr . Newhouse was elected as secretary for the enauing mouth , and Mx . Fellow * as treasurer . Mr Masos addreMjed an open ail meeting on the watte ground , Duddeston-row , on Sunday morning lsZwbieh wm Tery well attended . He signified his intention of continuing to bold out-door meeting * every Sunday morning and evening throughout the Bummer .

      SHIP 3 KH , STE ELHorsE LANE—The usual weekly meeting of Chartists was held at thto p lace on Sunday evening last , when a balance sheet of income and expenditure for the last three months was brought befonttu meeting , -irhich gave general satisfaction ; after which -Mr . Eames gave a lecture on the union and brotherly feeliDg that ought to exist amongst all political bodies ofmea setting the reflemptien of t heir country . )

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      SHEFFIELD . FiG-TltSE Lake . —On Sunday evening last , Mr . Gammage lectured on Free Trade and the Land ; subjects which be handled in a masterly style , to the complete satisfaction of bis audience . On Monday evening , a public discussion was held to consider the question of Repeal , and the threatened determination of the Government to crush the spirit ef liberty in Ireland , Mr . Clayton in the chair . Mr . Edwin Gill , after reading the Puke's answer to E ^ rl Ro deu , in the House of Lords , and Peel ' s answer to Lord Jocelyu , in the House of Commons , moved the following resolution : — " That the Chartists of Sheffield having united for the obtainment of equal rights and

      privileges for all , hereby tender the right baud of brotherhood to our fallow sufferers in the sister isle , and assure them of our heaity co-operation and support , in their e&deavonrs to obtain the liberty of their native land . At the same time we urge upon them the necessity of destroying class legislation ; witheut which neither their nor our rights can ever be permanently established . " The resolution was seconded by Mr . Morton Royaton . After some observations by Messrs . Browning and M'Gowan il waa pat and carried unanimously . Mr . E . Gill moved , and Mr . Hall seconded' That the question be further considered on the following Monday . " Carried .

      NOTTINGHAM . —The female Chartists of Nottingham rcet at the Democratic Chapel , Rice-place , on Tuesday evening , w ^ en sine new members were enrolled . ABERDEEN . —A discussion en the land question which has absorbed our attention these two week ' s , has terminated for the meantime . The Government against tha Irish Rep&ilers will now be briefly taken up . We have observed the recommendation from Perth , anything to concentrate the power of the people is extremely desirable ; but nothing short of a Union embracing England , Ireland , and Scotland , can affect that object The following resolution was adopted : — "That from what has recently appeared in the

      Northern Star , we are led to believe that Mr . C . Murray is in possession of the knowledge of something which , if generally knowD , would destroy the confidence of the Chartist body in Messrs . Abratu Duncan , and Robert Lowery . We do therefore think that in order to prevent bickerings and dissensions in the Chartist body from being got up on frivolous and trifling pretences , that the Chartist Association , of which Mr . Con Murray is a member , should call upon him to make known to them his charges against Messrs . Duncan and Lowery , and , if satisfied that they are ot sufficient importance , that he ( Mr . C . Murray ) be

      appointed to prove the same in public discussion , in presence of the accused , who shall be there to defend themselves . That if this course is pursued ( as Mr . Mr . Robert Lowery is at present lecturing in Aberdeen ) , the ConDcil of the Aberdeen Northern District Charter Union will be prepared to enter into arrangements with the Association of which Mr . C . Murray ia a member , to ensure fair play , and a commodious place of ( meeting . But until such a course as this ia adopted they must hold these charges against Messrs . Duncan and Lowery as frivolous and vexatious , if not utterly groundless , and without foundation in fact . ''

      STOCKPORT . —On Sunday evening last , Mr . John Allinson delivered an eloquent and well-timed lec ' . ure upon the subject of the Repeal of the Union . At the conclusion , the unanimous thanks of the meeting were awarded him . On Tuesday evenihg , Mr . E . P . Mead , of Birmingham , paid us a visit , and for the first time in Stockport opened the meeting by singing " Rally around him . " After which he entered upon a lengthened and able lecture upon the Land versus Rattle Boxes and Steam . The greatest possible attention was paid , and the lecturer ^ ave the highest satisfaction .

      LONDON . —Clerken well . —On Monday evening , a numerous and respectable meeting was held at the Commercial Ccffee House , 34 , Clerkenwell Green , ( or the purpose of heariug a lecture from Mr . Balls , on the British Constitution and for the transaction of the business of the locality . Addresses were delivered by Mr . Balls , Mr . Cuwen , and Mr . Skelton . The Members met as usual at 1 , China Walk , and deputed Mr . R 0 S 3 and Mr . Bxtenian to attend the conference next Tuesday , at 1 , Turnagain Lane , to consider the Plan of Organization . Correction of Errors in Balaacs Sheet of PoJitical Victims Support i " uad , m last week's Slur . — p . d . Kennington Common 8 8 ^ Gathered at the hall door by three

      ladies 12 7 . } By Mr . Ford ' a book 8 6 All persons holding books for the above fuud are requested to return them on Saturday and Sunday eveniDfcS at the Hall , Turnagain-lane , that a balance sheet may be published . In co . NSE < iUE . vcE of ill health Mr . R . Ridley will be unable to lcciure on Sunday afternoon at Kennington Common . A Public Meetikg was held on Wednesday eveniui . ' , May lOih . at the City of London Political and Scientific institution , 1 , Turnagain-lane ; admission 2 d . Mr . Dron was called to the chair , and in an appropriate address-opened the business of the

      eveniiig . Mr . Doyle moved thefollowingresolution — " Tiiat thi 3 meeting deeply deploring the widespread distress and want which afflict the industrious millions ol this country , and viewing these common calamities aa the results of class legislation , resolves to pursue the establishment of the People ' s Charter as the only efficient and ample remedy of the secial wretchedness and political injustice of which we complain . " Mr . Brown seconded , and Mr . Bairsto ^ v supported the motion , which was agreed to . Mr . Parkes moved the next resolution , — " That this meeting looks with disgust and indignation on the

      mean and miserable crusade against Chartifm , entered into by the present administration , and determines to use all legal efforts ot peaceful resistance to such an arbitrary and despotic procedure , and aUo solemnly pledges itself to support the victims of the UDJust and vicious system , in iheir struggle for the imperishable principles of democracy . " Mr . Arthur seconded and Mr . Harney supported , the resolution , which was unanimously carried . Miss Inge then britfly addre ssed the meeting . A voto of thanks was given to the chairman , and the meeting dispersed with cheers for the Charter , victims , &o .

      At a meeting at the Political and Scientific Institution , 1 , 1 urnagain-lane , Mr . M \ Donald in the chair , after 6 onie discussion , a scale of duties to be performed by the Secretary w ? s agreed to , and 30 s . per week fixed as his salary . Messrs . Salmon aud Wheeler were the only candidates ; Mr . fealmou resigned in favour of Mr . Wheeler ; Mr . Wheeler declined standing , being unable to ciuvote his whole time to the institution , fro other candidate being in the field , Mr . Wheeler was elected Secretary pro tern ., and the election deferred ior six weeks . All lamination * 10 be sent in wriiing to the Secretary pro ( em ., 2-13 $ , Temple-bar .

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      SUBSCRIPTIONS RECEIVED BY MR . CLEAVE . POLITICAL VICTIMS' DEFENCE AND SUPPORT FOND . £ s d . Previousl y aoknowledged ^ ? ' * Mr . T . BrV . iin J \ Mr . Bennett J 6 " Mr . Simons Jj \ f A friend of Mr . Frost ' s « 1 0 Newport , Me of Wight ( 4 th sub . ) - "Aon Cheltenham , for Victims y J " A ftw Sawyers , Waterloo Town « , „ f La . mbHb , far Circulars " J " * A few workmen . Boulogne-sur-mer i « «

      C . _ r- ! .. k r . Jii . kiil « iti .. ... 0 XV V Star Cluh , Edinburgh « ^ « Mr . W . Pain , Baintreo ° « ° Mr . T . Strut , do « *> ° Mr . W . Manning , do . — j > 0 0 Mr . B . Manning do 0 ° b Mr . W . Russell , do Mr . Seildo - J J b Mr . G . Streat , do £ n « Mr . J . Martin , do ior Mr . W . Spsed , do n 7 n Mr . J . Mania , do 0 \ " Three Friends " A " ........ . _ . _ -

      . 0 _ „ Mrs . Downes , Booking ... ¦•• ••• r . i » Mr . G . Baieman - ° \ ° Mr . T . Jennings , Sibble Hedingham — X o « Mr . W . Bareman V a n Pingle , Sutton-in-Aebfield { J ( " Mr . Williams , Tower Htmlets ° a n Mr . Riehardson 0 6 u Two individuals of the Borough of Oldham , per Mrs . Henry Vincent ... 11 « u

      £ 491 15 113 FOR M ' DOUALL . Penny Fund of Friendly Society of Carpenters , White Horse , John-street , London 10 0

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      BATH . —On Thursday week au interesting lecture on tbe land question waa delivered by Mr . Marriott . COVENTRY . —Mr . Arran , of Bradford , preached a Cbuttist Sermon on Grey Friars Green , on Sunday afternoon .

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      HOUSE OF COMMONS—Tuesday , May 16 . Mr . C . Bruce concluded a long and uninteresting speech , by askinj ? leave to introduce a bill for amendin ? the act which resulatea employment in mines and collieries . Ho brought tha subject under the attention of the House in great detail , and proposed ft ijfc '" Scotland any tmmatried woman above the agP of eighteen should hi permitted to work under ground . Caj-tain Lockhart seconded the motion . Lord Ashley ( who was imperfectly heard during bis speecfl ) said , so general and vigorous an attack bar ! been made upon the act which he had originated , that the House would see the necessity of his occupying some little of their time In defending It , and he trusted for

      their indulgence , while he enumerated the many beneficial effects which had resulted from it already , and pointed out what other results might be expected from it if it waa allowed fairly to run its course . He AH not think any case bad been made out for the interference of the House with the Act Why waa Scotland to enjoy an exemption which was not to be extended to England or to Wales ? He had received complaints from many parts of tbe country saying that Scotland was to enjoy an advantage which waa denied to them . Surely the law which -was Rood for regulating the mines in England was equally good for Scotland ? They had beard . a great deal of the hardships which the females had suffered by being thrown out of employment ; but was nothing to be said iu favour of males who had been

      excluded from labour by the employment of the females ? —( bear , hear . ) Let the peoplu of Scotland observe the enactments / of tbo law as well as was done in England , and then as good results would follow in the ona country aa in the other . Iu orde * to show what had been done in England he would read an extract of a letter front Dawsbury : — •' The young girls have been all drawn out of the pits , and their places supplied by men and boys . I learn that in the neighbourhood of Barnaley and Siikstone , where you saw so many miserable scenes , it has done a great deal to bring about a more beneficial state of things . ... In eonw in&tancts the poor "wtavtrs , who had nothing else to do , have gone to work instead of the girls . " Was not that a consummation

      devoutly to be wished ? From Siikstone he had received a letter , of which this was an extract : — "I have just witnessed the emancipation of about thirty young girls and boys from tha pits , and they seemed highly delighted , especially the giris , who expressed themselves , Thia is one of the best acts that ever were passed , ' for they had long b « en , tired of working In these holes of darkners and misery . " From Huddersfield and Leeds be had the same gratifying accounts . They said— " The parents are taking the children ont quite willingly , act say they have been loDg grieved to see their daughters made the slaves of a few overgrown unfeeling men . . . . Boys at ten years of age are to take the places of the girls . " " I find that the working of the Colliery Act is

      producing all the good you contemplated . I fell in with four girls who have been taken into families as domestic servants , and the mistresses say they find them quite willing to learn , ¦ . . . and regret that snob clever females should have been bo debased by so disgraceful an employment . I find also that tbe places in the pits occupied by the girls are filled up by men who were out of woik . " He had another account from a correspondent , who dated from near Barnsley , April , 3843 : — " J find it iruposaib . ' e to detail a tithe of tbe good resulting from the Colliery Act . One female , the wife of a collier , and tbe mother of two girls who worked in p i ts , told me that she knew not how to give expression to her joy . . . . The husband formerly spent the earnings of the two girls in intoxicating drink , about nine shillings & week , and while in a state of drunkenness he frequently beat her most unmercifully ; but being thrown on his own earnings he was led to reflection , and tbe consequence is that he has

      become sober in his habits , and also a church-goer , a place he never before frequented . A lady has taken one of tbe girls , and sent her to school , where she is to remain for two years . Tbe home , which was formerly like a bell , is now a paradise . This is not a solitary instance ; there are many . The girls are going into service , and becoming useful members of society . " He had many details of such cases ; and were they not most gratifying to every one who had assisted to pass tbe bill into a law ? Would not the same results take place in Scotland if the same means were taken to produce them ? He would read one or two more , if the House would oHige him by their patience ; one from collieries near Prescot , in Lancashire : — " It gives me great pleasure to congratulate you on tho improved condition of the poor children already emancipated from the trammels of slavery , ignorance , and disease , many ef whom are now placed at the charity schools , receiving an education suitable to their humble circumstances , which in after-life will fit them for situations mare

      congenial to their feelings , and more useful to society . Although females taken from the mines may rind some difficulty in obtaining suitable employment , in consequence of their Ignorance of household affairs , yet many of them are capable of performing the labour that has been executed by the Irish on the farms in the neighbourhood , and indeed , from their adaptation to work of various kinds , such as potato-planting , hay-making , weeding , reaping , &c , they will have tbe preference , whilst their places in the mines will be occupied by the other sex , who are now prowling about , and for want of employment ate become a public nuisance . I cannot account fur tbe hostility to your humane exertions on any ot her principle but that of selfishness and sbort sjghtbdness ,

      as we ought to consider it is the duty of every man the Itast interested in tbe country ' s welfare to endeavour to improve the condition of the suffering poor , and , if possible , to leave the world better than he found it " " Prowling about , and for want of employment have become a nuisance ; " wtmld tbe Hon . and Gaitont Member deny that sacb . a state of things did not exist in Scotland ns well as in England ? The N ^ ble Lurd tbe Member for North Lancashire was well known to be tho proprietor of a number of cullieties , which he iLord Ashleyj had been allowed to visit ; and although he was averse to say anything f ulsome in the presence of the N *> ble Lord , he must say that anything more kind or more correct in tbe whole management of that property he had Dever seen—nay , more , he had not read .

      He wrote to the Noble Lord upon the subject of the working of tfco Bill , and he was favoured with a reply , <> f which the following is an extract : — Worsley , February , ISi . i—Of any practical operation in tne par-Ucular objects of the measure , it is , of course , too early to speak . When a barbatising aud demoralising system has been pursued almost from infancy , we cannot expect perctiptir-te effects in an instant , from the mere abrogation of that system . In some respects your measure has had and will have to contend with fimUfcr difficulties in this district than in others . Female labour in our pits was a moral evil of the firBt magnitude , its physical evils were not in my opinion felt here as they must have been felt in Scotland . and elsewhere . Of course ut this period of general

      depression ana distress , patents are disposed to count the cost of any meai > uie which cuts off fur the moment an addition to their scanty means . In spite of these circumstances , I Lave met with no parents who did not at once admit that tbe occupation was unfit f « r wenches as they call them here , and I do believe that most of them are glad to have tho temptation removed of subjectirjg their female offspring to degradation , however lucrative . With rogarrt to the young females themselves , I could wish you no better reward for your labours than to see something of their deportment in the school which Lady F . has opened for their partial instruction . lam sure you would find evidence that your labours were not likely to ha vain or fruitless . There is an appetite for instruo . ion , an evident sense of

      its value , and a decency of behaviour which , considering antecedent circumstances , I confess have surprised me by their prevalence . " The measure would be rendered , indeed , vain and fruitless in Scotland were the measure now proposed to pass ; and as it had been attempted to depreciate tho authority of those by whom the honors of the old system had been exposed , he would ask the Hon . Member to listen to oue or two statements supported by such menaa the Rev . Mr . Parlane , of Tranent , tho Key . Mr . Bannermar . n , of Orunieton , the Rev . Bruce Cunningham , of Prestonpans , aud tho Rev . J . Vuitch , of Newbottle : — " With some rare exceptions , fnw of the children that work in the collieries are taught sewing or otber domestio work here . Those who go to mines acquire habits of tippling ; it is not

      uncommon to see children of twelve drunk . Lying , swearing , cruelty , and all sorts of moral evil abound in the future lives of uneducated miners . " Again , Mr . Thomas Goodhall , agent at the C » peldm colliery , in the county of Fife , writes— " The colliers are in many places a most barbarous and degraded dosB ; and the employment of females in mines . . has done more to destroy the colliers physically , morally , and intellectually , than any other thing that I know of . " Again , from clergy in private letters— "In the parish of the women and children used to be wrought in a shameful manner , as I have witnessed . I was an assistant in that parish . " Another— " I can bear personal testimony to the horrible eftveta of the sjitem . " It should be observed , that petitions , state-

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      ments , &c , in favour of repeal never mentioned cases of women who bore coal ( a horrible fc-il ) only the " trammers and putters . ' The Hon . Membsr had been very careful to keep cut of view all but these comparatively easy descriptions of work ; but what said such witnesses as the Rev . Mr . Mackaton -. —" That the women worked up to their knees in water ; always did the hardest work , and were treated hanlly as human " ( hear ); and what had been the simple , buS expressive language of the Scotchwoman who had been examined as to her own experience of the coal-beating work ? That the labour often p . oducjtl premature delivery , that it shortened life or ren <' ere-l existence miserable —( hear , hear . ) " Tt . II Queen Victoria , " said she " that tbe < K > or eonl-women will f ^ el ijcateful to her

      if she will take them from the coal-pit and give them a better sort of work . " And ( s > id tiie NMo Lord emphatically ) the Queen baa done this ; ami I hopj the geort effects of the measure wiir not niw be fiustrate < l and destroyed—( cheers ) There had beta sauiBthuij ? exceedingly suspicious in the petitions rrpresentci 1 , ns proceeding positively from those who had suffered uuder the old system , and who it was pretended were anxious for its restoration . Upon this poiut he Lad some statements to read which ho thought would tbrow some singular Hgbt upon the manner in which the petitions had been got up . A gentleman of great experience in the management of Scotch coal-mines called it : — " Selfish and most mercenary plans of certain coalmasters and iron-maateis to overthrow that roost

      benevolent act . " Again— "A disgraceful movement' * Again— "These lamentations for tbe destitute females aro crocodile ' s tears . " " Slavery , oppression , and love of gold . " From an agent of great exparieuce—" The opposition to Lord Ashley ' s measure might not appear to much advantage if clothed in the garb of pounds , shilliugs , and pence ; and accordingly we find im opponents lamenting the injustice that will be done to poor females , their want and destitution , aud so on . Of course wo are all aware that no great change Ilka that contemplated by Lord Ashley ' s Act . can take place without causing sono inconvenience . " He would now call the attention of the house to a letter fr > ra Scotland , dated March 8 , 1843 : — " From the knowledge I have of the coat-masters , I cannot but say

      that such attempts proceed , not fro ; a any desire to pronn ' e the welfare and comfort of the female miners , but with the viow of advancing their own interests an-i pecuniary gains . " Also he would read extracts of letters from gentkmen of great experience : — " You w : l ! , at onca , seo by the deapicab ' e aad unmanly correspondence , that the movement waa not by the poor fenwlus ; t ! : ey wore dragooned by their master , and this I know for ti fact , —I heard thu females of an extensive colliery heartily bless you in very affectionate ternia . " " I assure yen I have not foun . l one exception to their full concurrence in the measure . " " Ap to petitions in favour of females remaining in pits , emanating from themselves , I am much of the opinion , that were those documents scrutinized to theirerigin they would be found to nilse

      from the influeace of those interested In their degradation . " " I know of many instances where , if youutj females had attempted to leave their employment , all their relations would have been instantly dismissed from their work . ( Hear , hear . ) It is idle to talk of these poor creatures being at liberty to leave their employment . It is absurd to tell the Legislature that the petitions are the productions of theao poor women . We know the reverse . Want , misery , starvation , < &c ., are held up btfore them , und in fact in many instances they are demanded to sign . " "They ( the getters up of petitions ) waited on the clergy of several parishes where mines abounded , and terrified them by the threat of sendiog over all and sundry persons discharged under your Lordship ' s act to thoir eevernl parishes , a burden on

      the scanty means they possess to distribute to the needy . . . . Many of our cletyy , who at first rejoiced in the emancipation of the females , have now bsen dragooned to espo-uso the cause of the unfeeling mine-masters . " He called the attention of tho House to some extracts from correspondence of misters engaged in getting up petitions : — " It ia a b . U , " says one , " infringing on the freedom of the subject . My present feeling is , th . u those who employ females uuder ground should cause those females to petition Parliament in separato bodies . " " My own opici <;» , " says , n > other , " is that each work which employs females under ground should get those fomateB to petition both Houses of Parliament . I fear that the heritors in parishes petitioning Parliament would rather be injurious , oa their petitioning would evidently be for the purpose of saving themselvea , as many of tlio females would havu to apply to the parish for » id . I am n ;> w resolved that my female

      workers shall petition as a body , und should advise all coal workers to get their females tu do so likewise . " In another letter - . — " 1 have rec-ivodl a letter from the coal-manager cf my land ; and , from his letter , and all that I can learn , the colliers in Clackmannan and Fife are in a state of mutiny , and 1 understand they all belong to the colliers' union . If such ia tho case , you may rest satisfied tbey will not allow the femal 6 s working in pita to sign any petition l > y infmidation . " Such had . been the tactics of the getters up of these pretended petitions —( beat ) . H « h ; v <\ ' o ^ u ^ i > f » raed , he could assure the House , that in oue c isu ; i uoor widow , who bad withdrawn a youni ? prl from tho pits , had a small allowance taken away tiU she seut tbe child back to the dreadful work—iH ^ r , liea ^ . 'iijt now there was a petition from 200 or 300 " la ^ ks ' r . f Scotlaad , who , it seemed , were really desirous of 8 en > 1 u )

      " Those whom lace and velvet bltss With all the soft solicitudes w dress , " should thus eome forward for the puii-ose of consigning poor females to the horrors of c >> al-i > it labour—( Hear ) . He was happy to ki ow that no * uch petitions had proceeded from Englishwomen —( lie ? .:. ) And further , he was delighted to be able to c / atruit the comluct of the women in onr coal district -. nth that of theso Scotch petitioners against some of the -nost unfortunate of their sex . He bad beard that i ; : Ycifcsbire , Lancashire , &c . the females of the miUcic cKisses had tx erted themselves strenuously in c-operatiou with the measure , and had opened their doors to afford a refuge for the poor women who ha- , been rescued from the pits—( hear , hear ) . In one district , where

      eeventyfour had left the mines , att but ttu hart been forthwith received into the houses of the nvi s tibouTius ; shopkeepers and small innUolders , & .. . provided with necessaries , and kindly taken care of— 'hear , hear . ) This was conduct far more grateful to conlv . npl-. ite than the petitioning of those Scotch ladit ? , wLo kid addeJ one more to the reasons which sometinK > : unhapiiy oecurr .-. for inducing the poor to distrust tho K'ndly feelings of the upper classes— thear . ) Let him observe that the plan of the Hon . Gentleman was very much in mitigation » f that which was the originally proposed , and in favour of which the greater p ; : rt of tbe petitions that had beer ^ presented to the House w . thiy sulject . They were for the total repeal of the net , but the nature of the Hon . Member ' s proposition was this—that

      married women were to be excluded , and none but unmarried women should be retained In the pits . But if they were to keep unmarried women in the pits , w « 7 v they not taking them from tha means cf attaining those qualities which belonged to married women ? Was it not , in fact , a direct bounty on concubinage ? Was it not introducing , under the pretence of merality , an enormous Parliamentary license of concubinage ? ( Hear , hear . ) No doubt tfcore must be in every transition very considerable difficulty . fhere always had been , and there always would be . But in a letter which he had received from a gentleman of great authority in Scotland , the writer , after speaking of the difficulties attending the iutroduction of the new law , said he waa confident that no rtfl ^ ctive m . u ;

      who bad had experienco of the old system and its demoralizing effects would wish for a return to it . He should like t&e House to Observe , that if the masters had obeyed the provisions of the law , and had turne-. l out the aid women gradually as the law provided , these difficulties would not have occurred . Their duty was to have turned out all females under 18 within three month ? , and all others by the 1 st of March in the following year . But the fact was that in a vast number of pits tbey turned out none whatever , and now they eaid it would create great confusion if they did so . He knew it was the impression of many parts of Scotland that the women were not turned out gradually , as directed by the act , for the s ; ks of creating that confusion . AU the communications he had had on the subject stated

      that to be the impression , and he believed that it was correct . ( Hear . i And yet those persons now came forward , and asked for an act which should secure to them the profit of Iheir own disobedience . But the writer proceeded : —" Female labour in tLose horribly dangerous places is attended with grea ^ r evils than I had formed any conception of ; hardships which , aboveground , would not be imposed by tho hardest masters , under-ground females are submitted to labour which would be considered barbarous by any nation under the sun . " Tbe act came into operation in October as to children of tender years ; but in many parts of Scotland there were many . such children still in the pita , and yet

      gentlemen came forward to ask for an alteration of that act Then again , with respect to " hurrying "—with which term he had no doubt they were familiar—the writer said , " The hurrying is done by females on allfours , harnessed like animals ; their limbs bear tokens ot their barbarous employment , from the cuts of the ragged rocks and tramways through which they thrust their heavy burdens . " Bat now let him come to that testimony which bad been quoted with so much approbation by the Hon . Gentleman , in respect to the Carron Company . Now , upon that point tho writer of this letter Baid , " The colliers of the Carron Company ' s pits complained to me of the threats which had been re-

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      sorted to as an inducement to make tbo colliers sign a patition . " There was the Voluntary system a ' g . ri ! ; ^ and where did the petition lie when the colliers Vi-. ' . Q ' ootnpelted to sign it ? " It lay at the office of the hu :: y ; the-employment of females being offensive to liiemt as husbands and fathers , and moreover a cause of Ios 3 , as their wages aro thereby diminished . " Then thia gentleman went on to Joppa Colliery , near Edinburgh ; and what did he see there ? That which the Hon . Member took good care not to state—tha abominable system of coal-bearing . " There , " eaid tbe writer , " the abominable custom of coal-bearing by females ia still continued . " He then went on to say , " Dascending a pit a few weeks since , in the neighbour . hood of Tranent , I never waa mere shockei at the

      degradation of a human being , while the toil and euffering " which this labour inflicts are unequalled . Dr c-ggiug like horces on their bands and knees through smma in the sharp recks , which barely admit them , the limbs of tbese poor creatures" —and this was going on at that moment , in direct violation of tbe act— " are subject to the severest bruises and cuts while harnessed tu tb > . ir heavy pads , which they pull to exhaustion ovt .-r the tramways , sometimes many inches deep in water . " Only that morning he had received alettarcon .. ; i ; . ing this sentence : — " A woman told me the other < Say that often when in harness her shoulders were so Isctrated that the blood oozid through her garments a | t 2 w sides cf the leathern belt . ' And that was the condition of things to which they were to believe that tho -srcoiea

      petitioned to be restored —( hear , hear)—contr ,. y to all reaso : —contrary to all nature—and if the Hon . Gantleman h = d not said it , be -would say , it Ms contrary to all decency to make the asser'ioD . Tha flf 3 fc letter then wound up thus : — " I am happy in being able to assure you thera is bu '; ona opinion among the disinterested of Scotlandthat" the enactment of last session for prohibiting the employment of women and children In tha coal-pita is the greatest possible boon to this portion of the community . " He hoped , then , that Houst ivould not entertain the proposition of the Hon . Gsutlcuvuithat they would not interpose between the opera' . ; jo of an act that came into fall force only in Marc , and which they w * re now called upon to rescind in e / erw

      material portion of it in the middle of May . No do vbt there were many casos of hardship ; bat , in all the cases quoted by the Hon . Gentleman , tlmy gou . ' cI and ought to have been met by the proprietors themselves —( hear , hear . ) They bad had , God knew , en on ^ h out of the sinews and muscles of these unhappy cren lures , and they were bound by all means in their power to > make them compensation At any rate they had no right to come forward in that House to proposo nn act the upshot of which was neither more nor less tban tosave their own purses from those just and equitable contributions . He wonld state that , to tbe honour of Scotland , very many of the proprietors had shewn ihe greatest feeling and kindness , not only in carrying out the-act , but even in anticipating ! it ; but for tbosi who

      persisted in making those propositions , 1 st him s- . ie ^ esfe the rxample of his Right Hon . Friend at the head of tha Government His Right Hon . Friend bad a colliery , the lease of which had expired . The tenant on applying foe a further lease , said , that in consequence of this a *; t he could not pay so much rent His Right Hon . Friend accordingly abated the rent in proportion . That pit was therefore cleared of females , bat no doubt to the I 033 of the proprietor . He would further say , that there were few cases of hardship in consequence oi this act which could not be met by private contributions . He hoped , then , that th 8 House would put i : * v /? to upon this and all similar motions . Nogoodcfmld itsult from allowing the bill to be introduced , aad he Lwped

      that the House never would allow the bill to be parsed ; that they never would allow such a system to he repeated in any part of the kingdom . Better would it be at once to put a veto on the motion , and tj deelare that the House had passed a measure , an 1 that they would give to that measure a full , fail , and just trial —( hear , hear . ) Let Hon . Gentlemen take the opportunity , and affirm by their votes that night the principle which was at all times valuable , but in those days was essentially necessary—that property nnd station had their duties as well as their rights - 'hear , buar . ) With those observations , he bsgged louva to say " No , " emphatically " No , " to the motion cf thd Hon . Member .

      Mr . Hume supported the motion . He wou ' . J aofi yiBld to L : > rd Ashley in his desire ta make his fellow * creatures happy ; but ha saw no objection againat allowing women of mature age to accept labour at their own option . Sir J . Graham , while he desired to do fch" fi-l-asfe justice to the motives of Mr . C . Bruce , must resist hia proposal . Experience was uniform in favour ui the txemption of women . You could not degrade thu ' . ? o « man without demoralizing and brutaliz ' . ng thj h an . The experiment ot amelioration had hitherto bt e- the most successful . Mr . CuiiTisiS said he would vote with Lord . \ -blnj , and added some sentences upon the Cora La - > , the application of which was not clearly discerned by the House .

      Lird F . Egerxon thought the mover ' s speech vroved too much , for it really went to show the la ' . vav ia mines and collieries was among the most eligible ; x-. i-Aes of female employment . He testified to the su' : o «^ ; of tbe exemption of women in Lancashire , and wouJU < .. ou « cur with Lord Ashley in opposing the motion . ¦ Mr . R ' jEisuck admitted that legislation rni ^ Lt be properly applied to the labour of children ; but lv < lid think that ailuits , whether men or women , wcr ^ l > 6 ** ar judges than Parliament of the way in whic . ' i their own labour should be employed . Hia sympath e 3 , indeed , were with the law that excluded v .. j ,: ! en from underground work ; but he could not a ^ iut- to legislate for the regulation of any labour , ex-y . of those who wefy not competent to exercise a dis' -rstioa for tuemsolvfs . Lord Di / . vca . v . -von , though not without hesi . - -tion , resolved to give his vote in concurrence wish J . jrd Ashley .

      Mr . P . Stewart , in respect of the present f ^ -. / eaa in Scotland , which rendered thia particular time :. v :-ry inconvenient one for the closing of any ehamu-. l of employment , waa content tovotsforthe introcu .-t ' ioa of the bill , although as to the geneial principle Lo concurred ¦ with Lord Ashley . Mr . Forbes waa understood as being favoucabla to the introduction of the bill . ; Mr ; BrotubrtoN , considering the class of prraona in question , and the influences exercised updu them * could see no more objection to legislating for them , than to legislating for children ; and he hopt-. i tho . House would r . ot undo the rceasureofLard Ashi ^ y . Mr . Lockhart supported the motion of Mr . C- Uiuce , and vindidested the motives of the Scotch owuou , bj whom the objeqt was promoted . Air . Hindlev opposed the motion , and continued thatthe Housa had a perfect right to legislate nitiiiflt any uubanve , whether physical or moral .

      Mr . Alderman Thompson believed , that in South Wales , great as was the present distress , the men ¦« oald endure ten times as much rattier than let their wives ot daughters undertake tui 3 kind of employment . , It was , iu its . own natuie , uuut ior women , and he would leaiafc this-motion . ivir . C . Bruce replied . He had no wish to interfere with the general principle of Lord Ashley ' s bill , that the labour of women should eventually cease ; but he desired to mitigate the bvil of too sudden a cessation . Tbe ground , therefore , on which he pufc bis motion was , not the doctrine advanced by Mr . Roebuck , that it is unfit to legislate at all for reg u ^^ ing tiie labour of adults . The'House

      divided—For the motion 23 Against it 1-37 Majority against it 114 Sir C . Napier then brought undsr the cons ! iera " tion of the House the subject of the nuval lists . He eulog zt ; d the character of our naval officers , ami toejr services both in war and in peace , and g jrnplai ea ¦ hat a naval officer waa not plaec-d at tho head is ; iha Admiralty . He moved an address to H-t Mbj aty , praying that she would give direct : ; vs for a li ' -t on whica captains might retire with an increa . 13 of r > aj . L ° rd Ingestre saconded the motion .

      Sir R . Peel could not agree thatthe first L ^ -i of tbe Admiralty should necessarily be a naval man , although he fully admitted that a naval man mUht often he advantageously appointed to that office . Acknowledging , as he did , the justice of the praise btst » ved by Sir C . Napier on the existing officers of onr .- ' : < vy , he could not think that system a very bad or ^ wbich h . i < f produced a body of officers deserving such si ,,,. necyric . A-i to the present proposal , he hoped the II ; use would enable him to resist it with success . L' -rd J . Ri ; sski . l doubted whether the Hou . s ? of Cvjuuorts ought to aiidres 3 tho Crown at all for the

      pi-: oho of directing the course of the Executive Govi rnrutnt in such a matter as the conduct of the navy . It w ., 3 on that account that the late Ministry , when tkej dfasircd to revise the naval and military services , hacl advised the Crown to issne a commission of its own . oa yihicti the Duke of Wellington had consented to act , for the p \ irpo 3 e of furnishing such practical advice aa tke Executive Government might safely adopt . With respect to this particular proposal , he would leave it to the consideration of the Admiralty and the decision of tbe Government ; and hoped Sir C . Napier wouMuofc press it to n division .

      Captain j 3 ehk . ele . y . concurred in this hope , believing that tbt ! discussion would meanwhile hava bad a beneficial effect . Captain Peciieix charged the admiralty with havhig paid more regard to services on the hustings than to services on the quarter-deck . He gave credit to Government for having now manned the navy ; but they hoi been in former days the first to un-man it . Captain Plum judge complained of the slowness of naval promotion . Mr . S . Hej ; uert YineUcated the impartiality with which naval patronage had been distributed by tha ptesent First Loid of tbe Admiralty . As to the civilians employed in the dockyards , they were chitfly artisans , sach as masons , carpenters , and so on ; and consequently their places could not have been filled by seamen . He referred to the testimony which Sir C . Napier himself had last year borne to ths integrity as well as ability of Lord Haddington's administration .

      Sir C . Napier , in reply , defended himself on several points , but withdrew his motion . The orders of the day were then disposed of , and the house adjourned .

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