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      INTERVIEW "WITH LOisD STARLET , SECRETARY OF STAXB FOB THE COLOSIAL DEPA . E . TME 3 T . ! ( Na 6 . ) The deputation then proceeded to the Colonial- ; office , where , after waiting a short time , they were ' introduced to Lord Stanley , vrho apologised for the slight delay , -which , be stated ^ had arisen from the desire of the Chancellor of tio Exchequer to meet their i deputation at the same time . He had ten * to his office , \ stating teat the deputation had arrived , and had re . i ceived for answer that business of a pressing impor- j tance prevented Mr . Goulbum from having the pleasure of meeting them .

      In this conference Lord Stanley took a similar position to Sir James Graham on the subject of forcitn trade , competition , and machinery , cannoning the i deputation , however , as his righi hon . colleague had ! done , that in putting forward these arguments he was j not to be understood as expressing his owa coiaions on i toe sni-jecs , but simply showing tha deputation , the ' aigaments by which thsir propositions would probibly ' be inet , snd with a view to elicit from them to what I extent they had considered the questiLTi in thai light , j The deputation , in reply , took a similar course of argu- i meet t » that adopted in the interview witu the Borne ; Secretary , and succeeded in obtaining Lard St&niey ' s j assent , n . t only to the propositions laid down , bat alae ! o the fact that mnefc of the eril had arisen from the !

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      erroneous application of machinery under the guidance of ignoraEt selfishness . He confessed that tie view of the question taken by the depntatien , whether we tsieudnd or restricted the operation of the present manufacturing system , appeared to him a gloomy one , but that be did not see how the conclusion could be avoided thst , even with a large increase of foreign trade , there might and would , under the pressure of competition , be an increase of self-acting machinery , a decrease of manual labour , leading to low wages , and consequently a low state of existence among the few that might be employed , and this running parallel with the utter destitution and pauperism of the larger number whose labour was displaced by these new machines .

      Tcf deputation , in illustration « f their remarks as to the effect of the present application of machinery npon the labourer , presented his lordship with a piece of cloth , produced by the new felting process—aprocess by which , withont spinning or weaving , hundreds of yards of cloth can be made per day at a price little exceedina the cost of the oil now used in making the Yorkshire cloths . They stated that this fabric was now txtensively used for inferior purposes , and that the defects which prevented its application to superior uses were in the process of raoi-l removal , and that , when this was

      effected , its ceneral introduction might be looked for , to the displacing of the great majority of the heads of families in the West Riding and other clothing districts . A member of the deputation also assured his lordship , from his own knowledge , that in another department of msjanftcture a new machine was preparing to perform a process which xiow employed a considerable number of Lands , and that with this new machine very few operatives v ? oulu bs needed ; and the deputation aeked , " What was to become of the individuals who would be di * p ; aceil by the general introduction of these and other manual-labour-Bavine machines ?''

      Lett ! Stanley again repeated , that it was a perplexing question , ut the root of the social dtraugements and difficulties which have so much increased of late years But how to deal with it he was by no means clear . The deputation urged upon his lordship the impera tive necessity of retracing our steps , abandoning the false policy and false political economy which had led U 3 astray from the pa * h cf Bound national prosperity . The evil coiiftsseiily arose from the superabundance of tte means for producing wealth . Why should we be so insane as to make these the instruments for destreyir £ oar own happiness , and at the same time for ruining that of our neighbours ?

      The extent to which a repeal of the Corn Laws would operate in relieving tte Jabcur-niarket from its present depression was also fully discussed with his lordship , and the inutility of that measure was exposed by the deputation ; while , at the same time , they asserted its abstract justice and propritty ; but , as a practical measure for securing permanent and remunerative employment , its pretensions bad been thoroughly analysed , and it bad been found wanting . The deputation concluded by laying before Lord Stanley a tiiuilar course of policy to that recommended to his colleagues , whom they had the honour of meeting ; caaiely , the passing of a simple , efficient , and binding Ten Hours" B li ; the alteration of the New Poor law ; and lastly , thu appointment of a committee os iEqairy , which should have for iia special object the working of machinery since 1815 .

      Lord Stanley demurred to the latter proposal . He said that committees and commissioners had become a bye-word , and he feared that if the present Government were to pursue that course the public would believe . that it was desirous of shelving troublesome questions with which it felt itself unable to grapple . He also graphically described the course of a committee , and the manner in which ene of those " awful blue bosks * wound np its one-sided labours . Upon the whole , his Lordship did not seem to enteitain a very favourable opinion of this last suggestion . The deputation replied , test there was a wide distinction bttvteri the use andTibuse of anything . A razor was an excellent instrument when put to its propar use—that of shaving—but by no means so when applitd to cut a throat . In like manner the bad purposes to which committees and comwissionerships bad hitherto been pat formed no argument sgainst their croper

      application-It was urged upon his Lordship ' s attention that it would be a very different proceeding from that of " shelving" a troublesome question for the Government , when it met Parliament , honestly to say , " We have no facts to enable us to deal with one of the most perplexing and important of the questions which pre&s upvu our attention ; and , therefore , propose a committee for a fuli ami complete ir . qniry . for the purpose of aioin ? us in maturing measures of relief . " At the same time the deputation were quite awara that such a coibmi . t ^ e wouid f ail in accomplishing the intenced onj .-ct , unless it was appointed at the request of the Government , and in the spirit and for the purpose BJimeri .

      His Lordship was reminded that no such inquiry had evtr bten instimt rd ; anil there bad grown up amongst us a miehti- po ? er , which had done much to produce the itate el tbings now deplored ; and that no inquiry into its < per . lions and effects , with a view to its du « regulation for national well-being , bad ever yet bean had . The time was come when this question must be grappled with , or it would overthrow the strongest Government that cculd be formed . The deputation suggested this conirsittee as one of the best means of gei' . ini : at tbe facts of the case . They did not wish lot a mockery of an irqulry . They did not wish for a committee to run the usual course of committees and Ci / mmifyjocers . They did not want a committee to set up a e&be ; feut they wanted a full , a complete , an < l

      honest inquiry , by competent men of all parties , into the working of the present system , with a view of applying a p ' ain , simple , and efficient remedy . The ¦ deputation rt quested his Lordship to bear in mind that , in ircggcstJDg tlAa course , which they were inclined to believe would be found in the end highly beneficial to all parti * s , they were not urging it as the primary oVgect of their iaissioc—that was a Ten Hours * Bill . If trio Government would give that , it would be an eirBest to the operatives in the manufacturing districts that the Ministers really sympathised with them , and w * -rs desirous of alleviating the calamities which they

      endnrcd . It was no problematical question . For tT-er-ty-flve jvars it had been discussed and agitated in publio meetings and in Parliament , and had formed the suljnt of voluminous inquiries . The evidence of men of the highest standing in the medical profesiion had shown that the continuance of the old system was incompatible with the dictates of common humanity and justice ; acd the philanthropist and the statesman had equally shown that its perpetuation was adverse alike to individual and national well-being . For these reasons the deputation earnestly pressed upon his Lordship the necessity of adopting the Ten Hours Bill , as at least a preliminary measure .

      Lori Stanley expressed his pleasure at the interview , but s-iid he saw great difficulties in the way of a settlement of the perplexing questions which had been br-uaht under his notice . He bad been gratified mth . the very intelligent aaad high-toned manner in which thfcso questions bad been discussed by the deputation ; and they might rest assured that whatever determination was come to on the subject , it would be with ali respect for the judgment of those who showed that they had given it a full and deliberate consideration in all ita various phases .

      The deputation then toek leave of Lord Stanley with feelings of regret , somewhat similar to those excited by Sir Jame 3 Graham . Like the Home Secretary , his Lordhip's attention had been more prominently fixed upon the manner in which the measures proposed might Effect capital , than upon the consideration of the higher questions of justice , humanity , morality , and toe general diffusion of happiness among the population At the same time , however , the deputation have to record the high gratification which Lord Stanley ' s frank and cordial demeanour afforded them , and also the pleasure they received from the ready and able manner in which he enterea into discussion with them on the various important questions alluded to , during a conversation of upwards of an hour . His Lordship appeared to speak as if his minu was depressed with the difficulties which the Government would have to encounter , whatever course of policy it eventually adopted .

      To Mr . Beckett the thanks of the deputation are eminently dee for the deep and heartfelt interest he took in the success of their mission , and the assistance he afforded them . Opposed as they were to that gentleman in puiitical opinions , and avowing freely this difference , it gratified tb $ m exceedingly to find him so superior to class , party , and conventional JEflner . es , and to hear from his lips the avowal of principles in reference to the uso of property , and the rights of the poor , which , if more generally felt and acted upon , would speedily tmninate the acrimony and division now so prevalent between the wealthy and tha poorer classes , and injure to She la ; ter comparative eemfort , to the former tke good-will and esteem of their poorer brethren . For such sentiments and principles , sincerely hrid , the deputation entertain the highest respect , whatever may be the party-name the individual may assume

      In conclusion , the necessarily brief and imperfect report hsrs presented from recollection will * afford a tolerably fair idea cf the reception-which has been accorded to your tieputation , and of the degree of success wbicfe has attended their mission . They leave the faets they have narrated to speak for themselves , and , without further comment , conclude by subscribing themselves your fellow-werters in the cause of justice , truth , and humanity , Geobge A . Fleming . Joshua Hobsos . Joh . n Leech . Marb . CRabtree . Titus S . Brooke .

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      A Jewel of a Wife . —A Miss Charlotte Mitchell , of Georgia , recently appeared on her wedding day dressed euiireiy in silk of her own manufacturecap , gioves , stocking ? , and dress—equal to the best poHgce . Giris , do you hear that ? Such a girl vrou 3 d be worth more to a jouDg man ja&t stavtiDg in . the world than a thousand collar farm , aud half & dozen pianos to boct . Rtallj she ia a wife worth having , &sd Mr . Wijliiaj Warriugtou may think himself a fortunate man- —American paper .

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      THE OASTLER TESTIMONIAL . The object contemplated by the supporters of this fund is that of providing for the well-known advocate of public rights , Mr . Richard Oastler , and his family . Having been impressed very early in life with the extreme importance of those principles which conduce to the general welfare of society , and' encouraging constantly in his mind a feeling hostile to every infraction of those principles , Mr . Oastler became a strenuous supporter of tha cause of the weak arid the oppressed , as well as an ardent opponent of all who attempted to exercise injustice and cruelty .

      The sphere of his private duties being the great manufacturing districts of England , Mr . Oaatler ' s sympathies were necessarily excited by the sufferings of children of tender years who were employed in thenjanufaetories , and the energies of his mind were directed to the great question of legislative regulation of factory labour . To all who have exerted themselves in this interesting and momentous question , Mr . Oastler has given the most efficient support ; and those who have watched the progress of the subject are gratified by

      knowing that the question having obtained the sanetien of the legislature of Great Britain , has also been adopted in France , Prussia , Austria , Russia Switzerland , and a part of the United States of America . Mr . Oastler , as is well known , has also contended for a just and humane system of Poor Laws ; and hia advocacy of the great and sacred principle upoa which all Poor Laws should be founded , in contradistinction te t ' ao modern attempt to innovate aud encroach upon tfae constitutional right of the poor to relief , may be characterized as strenuous , constant , and most successful .

      Although the advocacy of the great public questions before mentioned has placed Mr . Oastler in the position of an influential supporter of popular rights , yet he has not attempted either to increase or to uphold his influence by appealing or yielding to the selfish passions of any section of the community ; but he has boldly and emphatically , and often in the midst of great personal danger , denounced oppressioa and injustice in whatever quarter they appeared to originate , whether it was in the case of the rich against the poor , or in that of the poor againBt the rich , his object being to instil into the minds of the whole peopla the great truth of relative duties , and the paramount necessity of fuliiliiDg them ; the source from which he has derived bis knowledge cf those duties being the will of God , as revealed te mankind in the Holy Sorioturcs .

      Thus Mr . Oastler ' s constant endeavour has been to maintain the principles npon which the British Constitution is founded ; uniting the monarchy , the aristocracy , and the entire body of the people in a mutual anil just support of each other , that bond of union being the Church of Christ . It will not excite surprise , that seeing systematic tyranny and crue » cy practised upon the most helpless of our race in the extent to which Mr . Oastler has witnessed it , lie Bhoulii have been driven by the enthusiastic ardour of hia nature , to utter expressions which th'ise who have not been similarly circumstanced might well condemn ; but on this pomt he has been tho subject of much misrepresentation , and also of much wilful detraction ; notwithstanding which he has continue *! in

      an undeviating course of public duty , net permitting his exertions to sustain the least cheek on account of opposition and difficulties which would have overwhelmed most men . Oae very important fac ^ , shewing the true and valuable nature of his tervices , should here , be mentioned , which is , that those who huve been so piaced as to be best acquainted with his . matives and hia proceedings , have proved themselves to be bis warmest and most constant public supporters , aa well as his private friends , amongst whom , may be reckoned pvoprietois of some of the largest factories in the kingdom . The great efforts which Mr . Oastler has made for his country , have , however , cost him much . No conaidtrations of private interest have evei restrained him in his

      endeavours to fulfil that which he conceived to _ be his public duty . This great , benevolent , and patriotic man is now the inmate of a debtor ' s prison ; debarred the full exerci 8 tt of those admirable faculties of mind and body which are so well adapted to procure an ample provision for himielf and family . A most earnest appeal is maiie to those who are attached to the cause of British ConsHtutioiial Government to contribute towards raising a fund for the purpose of placing Mr . Oastler , bis wife , ani their adopted daughter , in comfortable circumstances . The meney which is raised will be under the control of the Trustees whose names are bertafter Hitntioned , who witt decide on the best method of fulnlixg the object intended .

      The projectors of this Testimonial beg to suggest to all the friends and suppoitwrs of Mr . Oastler ' s principles , the necessity of proceeding immediately to form themselves into Committees for the purpose of canvass ing their respective neighbourhoods , and communicating the TtB'ilts to the Honorary Secretary ; for it should be particularly remembered that the well-being of all who obtain tbeir lirtng by their daily labour is especially included in this cause , and that many of them fuel a warm interest in it , whose contributions , howaver small , will be equally esteemed as those of much larger amount . The Trustees of tho Fund are , the Right Hon . Lord Feversbam , Sir George Sinclair , Bart ., Juhn Walters , Esq ., John Fielden , Esq ., M . P ., and W . B . Ferrand , Es , q , M P . The Honorary Secretary is W . Atkinson , E * o .

      Subscriptions will be received by Messrs . Drummorid , Bank era , Charing Cross , London : and by tho Honorary Secretary , Mr . Wiiliain Atkinson , No . 16 , Doughtystreet , London , to whom all inquiries and communications are to ba addressed .

      CONTRIBUTIONS ANNOUNCED . The Kight Hon . Lord Fevtrshara - - £ 50 0 0 Lord Ashley , si Y 25 0 0 Sir George Sinclair , Bitt 10 10 0 Sir Alex . Hood , Bart , CoE > pton Castle , Somersetshire ... 3 0 0 Jehn Walter , Esq 25 0 0 W . B . Ferrand , E * q , M . P . ... 10 10 0 The Rev . J . D . Sconiberg , Polesworth , Tamworth ... ... 5 5 0 Mr . William Atkinson 5 5 0 A Rutlandshire Rector aud his Wife ... 5 5 0 London , January 1 , 1842 .

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      Mr . Southtvell , in explanation said , I certainly did not mention the word Chartist ; but I am candid . I have no desire : to conceal mj opinions ,. I am both a moral and physical-force Chartist , two in one ; moral force ia all very well , but what is the use of the mind without the bone and sinew . ( Loud cheeiB . ) There was a time when resistance became a virtue . The French had shewn us an eximple ,-. and wasi about to do so again , the sooner the better ; he would now leave his cause in their bands , and whether he received one or two yeara imprisonment , he trusted they would still find him honest and straightforward ; two years would work a wonderful change in their affairs if they were but true to themselves . Mr . S . resumed his seat amidst the most deafening applause ; : Mr . Ryall then stepped forward and moved , ;

      . " That this nj 6 et ; ing is of opinion , th » t Mr . Southwell had aa muob right to express bis opinion in bis own way , as any biahbp , priest , or prelate , or any Christian had to express theirs ; they , therefore , sympatnise with Mr . S . under his present prosecution , and pledge themselves to aid and assist him by every meana in theirpower , . / . ' /; ¦ ¦ '¦ ¦ ¦ ¦;' ; :: / V " -v" •' : . ' : ' :. ; '¦ . " : - ' ¦¦ > ' "' Mr . Staxlwood stepped forth amid load applause to second the resolution , which was put by the Chairman , and carried unanimously , amid the loudest plaudits . It was then announced that meetings would be held "in .. several parts of the town for the same object .:. ; ¦ ¦• ¦' ¦ " ¦¦¦' :-f . . -,: '; . ' - . " ¦ ' . ¦ .. ¦¦/ "¦ ¦ . " . '" .

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      NOMINATIONS TO THE GENERAL ' :. ¦ . ' ; ¦ > council ; ¦ : ; ¦ . ; BUIITON-ON-TRENT . Mr . George Forster , maltBter , HorninglowstreetJ . v , : ¦ ";¦ . ¦ . . ¦ ¦'¦ . ¦ ¦ ' ' :. - ¦ ; .. - . " . . ]¦ ¦ - ., ¦ Mr . Thomas Lucas , cordwainer , Long-street . Mr . Thomas Taylor ^ brazier , High-street . Mr . Joseph Hall , painter , New-btreet . Mr . Philip Tyzack , brovver , High-street . Mr . William Sudlow , news-agent , New-street , Bub-Treasnrer . : ;• Mr . William Hall , cooper , Goosemoor , sub-Secretary . SOUTHAMPTON . :

      Mr . J « Hill , shoemaker , Spa-road , Mr . Palmer , ehoemaker , Mpunt-street . Mr . Goodman , chair maker , Back ; of the Wall . Mr . J . West , hatter , East-street , sub-Treasurer . Mr . J . Rucsoll , shoemaker , Russell-coart , sub Secretary .

      » YDB . Mr . Nicholas Tull , tailor , Plane-street . Mr . Jaines Lake , brewer , High-street . Mr . John Q ,. ;> , lch , ahoeuiaker , Plane-street . Mr . John Win . Butler , shoemaker , Warwickstreet , sub-Treasurer . Mr . Heiiry James Ballard , tailor , Plane-street , sub-Secretary . BERMONiJSEY . Mr . I . Kelscy , 13 , Minto-street , Bermondsey . Mr . James Morgan , 9 , WellingCuB-street ,

      iilackfriars-rbad . Mr . William Kendall , Walworth Villa . Mr . George Taylor , 13 , Ilichmond-terrace , Wftl worth .- . ¦ . ' . - ¦ , ¦ / ' . ¦¦ ¦ ¦ ' ¦ ¦ : ' : .... ¦ ; Mr . R . , I ) odgson , Southwark Bridge-road . Mr . Mark Amos , 177 ? Long-lane , Bermondsey . Mr . Henry Jones , 2 , Southampton-sireetj Dover road . '¦'¦¦¦¦ : Mr . Robert Flint , 11 , Gastle-Ktreet , Borough , i Mr . Benjamin Harrison , 48 , Penton-strcet , New ineton .

      BRADFORD . Mr . Joshua Rawnsley , weaver , Lidget-green . Mr' John Whitehead , wool comber , George ' sstreet . "¦ . ¦ ' ¦ '; . - , ; : ' ¦¦ '¦¦ ' . . . ¦ Mr . John Firth , wool comber , Marininghara . Mr . John Hedley , wool comber , North Wing ; Mr . Thomas Corodes , wool comber . North Wing . Mr . John Arran , news agent , Geovgo ' s-sfreet . Mr . Thomas Verity , stonemason , Great Horton . Mr . Thomas Ibbotson , cap maker . Church-steps . Mr . Geurge Fietchur i wool comber , George'astreefc . . . / ¦ ' Mr . 'William Borrows , weaker , Great Horton , sub-Treasurer . Mr . John W . SmythY shoemaker , at Mr . Alderson'a , Bauk-streeC , sub-Secretary .

      BBISTOI . ( YOUTHS . ) Mr . Wm . Davies , Horsefair . Mr . Win . Wiiiiamg , Stapleton-road . Mr . John Morgan , Etbread-streei . Mr . George Pullcn , Narrow Wine-street . Mr . Charles Bittle , Castle-green . Mr . Wm . Edwards , Lower Eastou . Mr . Henry Cdoke , Dgnmark-street . Mr . Frederick Gibson , East-street , Bub-Treasurer Mr . Georga Powell , Narrow Wine-street , sub ' Secretary .

      CHELTENHAM . Mr . Samuel Laray , boot closer , 15 , Milson-street Mr . Thomas Hay ward , brickmaker , London road . - . ¦ i . ' ¦ ¦ ' . ' . . - - - ' . ¦ Mr . William Milsofl i plasterer , 22 , Kingston place . Mr . Thomas Williams , green grocer , 227 , High street . .: ¦"•' Mr . Frederick Tovey , carpenter ^ 18 , Rutland street .

      Mr . John Soul , tailor , 7 , Russell'a-court . Mr . Johii Lcighfield , painter , 7 , Esmouth-street . Mr . Daniel Waiibrd , plasterer , S 3 , Upper Parkstreet . Mr . William Hill , bricklayer , Knap Cottage . Mr . John Glenistor , coach axle-tree .. makur , 59 , Duke-street . Mr . William Leach , carpenter , 7 , Hamilton-place , 8 ub-Treapurer . Mr . William Perry , paper stainer , 2 , High-street , sub-Treasurer .

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      NBWCASTI , E . i-Mr . O ' . Brien arrived in Newcastle , by tho railway , about half-past tour o ' clock on Moiiday aftcruooir . The walls were placarded , announcing that Mr . Q'Brien would deliver two lectures-on Monday and Tuesday evenings , and a pubho . meeting , open for discussion , would be held ou Wednesday evening . The meeting was announced for eight oclock , and soon after seven the lecture ^ room was full . At a few minutes after eight it was unanimously agreed that Mr . Sinclair should take the chair , who briefly opened the proceedings by stating the objects of the meeting , and calling upon Mr . Crotherrf , who proposed the tallowing address to Sir James Grahamj which was seconded by Mr . Stephen Biiins , and carijed unanimously : — To Sir James Graham , Bari ., M . P ., Secretary of Siat * for the Home Department .

      The Memorial of a Meeting of the Inhabitants of the Borough of Nowcastle-upon-Tyne , belongini ? to the Working Classes , holding the Political Prinr ciples set forth in . the Charter , oasenibled in Public Meeting , SHEWETH ,- ^ -That we have deemed it our duty to memorialise you relative , to the xeeent appointmisnt of Magistrates for this Borough—not to express any opinion aa to the fitness or otherwise of the persona appointed , but to draw your attention : to an omission made in that appointmaDt , and to pray that . it may be remedied , as we doubt tot that omission was unintentional ;

      The gentlemen recently appointed are all of Tory or Conservative opinions in politics ; and the most of tbe old Magistrates hold Whiggish , or what are sometimes called Liberal principles . Thus tivo of the political partie 8 in the State are now represented en the Bench , whilst he third , ( by far the most numerous ) , the Chartist party , being omitted in both appointments , are entirely misrepresented . Tbe object of this memorial is that you would be pleased to recommend that some persons holding Chartist principles may be appointed Justices of the Peace for this Borough .

      We are aware that an objection may be token to this request , on the point that as justice should be faitly adniiniatefed to all , without reference to their politics or religion , bo Magistrates ought not to be appointed with any relation to their politics . But it will be difficult to remove the iBipresston prevailing on the public mind , that Magistrates are appointed , not merely on aec 6 unt of great talents and undoubted fitness for the office , but on account of their political creeds . And if 5 t were , the regular separating of men , arid their falling into the ranks of their various political parties on every question or discussion , precludes the pessibility c < their appearing to act free from party biaB . To expect them to act on all occasions , and in all matters , with freedom from party feeling , would , we think , be

      expecting too much in the present state of . society . Your own experience will have shown you the contrary ; as also your personal knowledge of both Whig and Tory parties will enable you to judge to what extent keen nnscrnpulous partisans : will go , aud the great neeeasity there is , therefore , of framing the appointment of the Justices of the Peace eo as to prevent the undue influence of any political party ; so that by such due admixture of men of all political opinions , the posaibiltty of turning the Magistracy into a political mactane may be prevented . Of the individuals appointed we do not wish to say one disrespectful word ; but . the office of a Magistrate is one of great importance , the duties of which , if properly exercised , engender and foster the spirit of liberty—bat If otherwiaei depress and degrade the people , more

      especially m their rightly administering the laws which concern the righte and tie liberties of the whole mass of the people ; amongst which areitheithe great rights , first , of meeting to discuBs grievances and to petition ; secondly , the great right of publishing opinions relative to matters civil and ecclesiastical , without the free and unembarrassed' exercise of which , a nation , whatever may be its pretensions to freedom , ara slaves . It is a matter notorious in the history of this country ; that both these great rights have been illegally and wantonly invaded by persons armed with magisterial authority :. that magistrates , yielding to . their personal fears , their personal and party dislikes , have forbid public meetings being held—havei tyrahically dispersed the meetings of the people by military force—havesubjected the organs

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      and advocates of the people to imprisonment , persacution , and expense , for words said and matters published which ultimately a jury of their countrymen declared were not ilJei ? al —| £ uch proceedings having the evident tendency ef fettering the spirit of liberty , and presenting the utterance of the voice of the people )—have demanded excessive ball , contrary to Mjagna Charta—haveofteri ^ awarded unnecessary imprisonment , tending to degrade and destroy the characters of the persons so impressed- ^ -have enacted barsh and

      unconstitutional prison regulations , treating the nncoRvictcd prisoner in the same manner as the convicted felon , ( contrary to tho eld maxim , that no man Is to be considered guilty until adjudged so bya jury of hia peers . l and treated political prisoners , whoss only offence was holding a different opinion from others , and promulgating the same , aa felons .- - Thesa arid many other acti of tyranny have had their place of action in this country . We will not tuM to the dark page of Ireland ' s history , on which the doings of a partiaaa inagiatracy are stamped in letters of bJood . ; - ! . ' : ¦<

      We have , we think , stated enough to justify the prayer of our memorial , acid our conviction that ; tbe magistracy ought to be so framed as to avoid a repetition of the detailed instructions of the constitution of this country , as settled by Magna ; Charta , the Bill of Rights , and various statutes for establishing and securing the rights and liberties of the people of these realms . ; '¦ ' ' ¦ / ' ' : '¦ - - ' /; .-: ' "¦ ' ¦ . -- . ' . . . "¦"'¦ ¦ . ' - . "¦" - . ' . ' We therefore pray , that as the two parties . Whig and Toryi are represented oh the Bench , some individuals , identified by their opinions with the Chartist body , the people , may be Hppointed as magistmtes forthis borough ^ and thus act as a curb and check on the politics of those now on it . We leave the case with more confidence in your hands , as you Lave already shown your openness to conviction ; and we know that a sufficient number of individuals may easily be found , 'Identified with the mass of the people , and fitted both by talents , education , and rank , for the ( face of a magistrate .

      Mr . Kirkeh moved the following address to Sir Frederick Pollock , which was seconded by M . f . Gross j and carried unanimously : — :

      To Sir Frederick Pollock , Attorney General . Sin ., —We , the inhabitants of Newcastle upon-Tyne and the surrouading country , most humbly bog to convey to you our hearty congratulations on your appointment to the high and honourable post of the Attorney-Generalship ; and we beg you to accept our best wishes for your health and happiness , and our earnest prayers that yon ' may long live to . be an honour totheprofession of which you are bo bright ah ornainent / And permit us , Sir , to imploro your interest with her most gracious Majeaty , Queen Victoria , in behalf of thoBe three unfortunate' individuals , John Fruat , Zephaniah Williams , and Wiiliam Jones , who have been expatriated from their country and their homes for tho term of their naturailives . That these men were guiity of a high misdemeanour , we wili not attempt to deny ; nor will we attempt to palliate their ( jonducti as : being guilty of a misdeuieanour ; but whether the crime with which they were charged amounted to treason or not , it is not

      within the limits of our province to decide ; but w » mSy point with piide / to the talented defence of the untortunate indivieluals in question , and to the construction put upon the crime of which they stood charged , as a denial of the tecaBonable beariuz of their acts ; and it may not be : out" of place , Sir , to remind you of the objection raiEed byyoursolf in favour of John Frost , aiid tee respectable number of the venerable Bench who pronounced ; your objection to be valid . And we trust , when every circumstance of the case is taken , into conaidevation , you will not deem us foolishly obtrusive , or wickedly impertinent , in soliciting your aid to procure the return of those ill used men to the bosoms of their families , their lelativea . and friends , and in imploring your intereat with her most gracious Majesty to lemit the remainder oi their punishtneutfl , and to restore them to . their country and their homes , as a memeuto of this happy aud auspicious event of the birth of a Prince of Wales .

      Mr . Daes moved , and Mr . Falnlough seconded , " That the niomorials now read be signed by the Chairman on behalf of this meeting ^ and to be by him forwarded to the proper quarter . " At about haifpasc eight o ' clock Mr . O'Brien came on the platform , and was hailed by the most deafening cheers . Having beea iiitroi- 'uced by the Chairinari , as the reprtisensative of Nev / castle , Mr . O'Brien rcse and spoke fur two hours and a half , and was loviUly cheered throughout '{'¦¦ ¦ after' which Mr . Crothers moved , and -VSr . Harrison seconded , " That the thanks of this meeting be tendered to t ' aeAvrittrs of the Great Northern Advertiser and Gateshead

      Observer newspapers respectively , for ^ the honest reports they gave of the proceedings ' - . .-. of tliei last public meeting of the Cnartists of Newcastle . " Gar / ird . The Chairinau read a letter which had been received from Mr . O'Connor , apologisiug for his inability lo visit us on his way back frcm Glasgow , on account of extreme ill health , but pledging himself to give us the promised week before the Convention meets . Tlie letter was received with deafening cheers at the end of each sentence . A vote of thanks haying been pas-ed to the Chairman , the meeting separated at a few minutes to twelve

      o'clock-BIBIVIINGHAM . —D £ Zegate MEETlXQ-rA meeting . of delegates for the trunsaction . of the business connected with the proposed Convention ,: &c . for the counties of Warwick and Worcej-ttsr , was held at the Chartist Room , Freeman-street , on Tuesday last . The followiiig placeB were represented : — FrEeman-stkeex . —Mr . R . Thompson and Mr . H . CressweJl . Si'Eelhouse-Lane . —Mr . Porter and Mr , Follows . COVENtBY . — , Mr . Peter Hoey and Mr . Rebt Mahon . Stoukbiiidge . —Mr . J . Chance . Walsall . —Mr . Scholefleld .

      WEDNESBvltY . —By letter . Swallow street . —Mr Vaughan . WoLVEiiHAMPTON . —By letter . ~~" Reddish . —By letter . Bromsgkove—By letter . Mr . Richard Thompson was unanimously called to the chair . —Mr . John Mason act « d as ^ Secretary . The Chairman explained the purpose for whick the meeting had been cailed , namply , to con&ider the best means for procuring signatures \ o the Kstiozial Petition and adopt a plan for tko collection of the required sum , £ 25 , for the suppaxt of the Convention . The lecturers' fund would also occupy a part of their time . At the requeat of the meeting , Mr . George White explained his views of the matter . Mr . John Mason also addressed the meeting

      on the state of the district . Mr . John Chance stated on behalf of Stourbridge that they would supply their quota to the'Convention and Lecturers ' fund , and gayea description of the method they had adopted for procuring signatures and raising funds , they were determined to wait on all classes and solicit their aid . He expressed his surprise at the conduct of other towns in the district Tnuy had not taktn up th « question as they ought to have done . He hoped they would see the neceesity of altering tbeir conduct , and attend to the business at the next delegate meeting ; Mr * Follows , wished to know how many towns were connected with the Birmingham district . Mr . Mason replied to the question Mr . Chance thought that it should be ascertained whether the towna in the district meant to act or not . He

      would therefore move , " That the Secretary be instructtd to write to each Association oh the subject . " Mr . Vaugban seconded the motion . Mr . P . Hoey said it was the determination of the Chattista of Coventry to support the Convention . He had no doubt that they would pay their share . He { would support : the motion , as he thought they nught to know who wtirethe real friends of the Charter . Mr . Follows said that ^ as the lecturer was the likeliest to know the numbers in each Association , that he would give tho necessary information ; after which they might make an estimate of tbe amount which each place ousfat to pay , and whether they could do so . Mr . Chance then read a list of the members enrolied in each town i » Warwick and Worcestershire . After which , a calculation was made of

      the sum which should be -raised by each town ; from which it appeared that it would require a sum equal to the payment of sixpence by each member . Mr . Chance said they could / secure a good sum from quarters not connected with the Association , and thought that nothing but cowardice could hinder them from getting the means . He had applied to several rich men to Bign the petition , and should expect them to subscribe towards the support of the Convention . Mr . Peter Hoey said it would be advisable to-make a' fair division of the amount required from each place . He thought that the best course , sis some places might be better able to pay than others / each place should bo informed what they were expected to pay . Heeuggested the propriety of rtddint

      that' cluuae te tho previous resolution . Mr , Chance ¦ Agreed to the addition , when the motion was put and ca ? rkd unanimousiy . Mr . Follows wished tbe delegates to proceed next to a cbnsidei atipn of the lecturers ' fund , and moved " That the Secretary ba instructed to write to each place in the distriifc , requiring a specific answer as to whether they iatended to support the lecturer's fund or not , " as it was uselesa to t life of employing a lecturer if the various parties agreeing to do so did not forward their share regularly . Sir . Scholefield was instructed to ask several questions with regard to the non-attendance of the lecturer at Walsall on a late occasion . Mr . White explained the reason . Mr . Chance said that ail placea who were liable to the payment of the lecturer should remit the amount every fortnight at least 'A long conversation then took place as to the attendance of the lecturer at various places , it was ultimately agreed that it would be

      itupoasible for the lecturer to attend punctually if the payments were not forthcoming regularly . Mr , Peter Hoey . —Had heard the varion * statements which had been made , and thought the chief cause of complaint was attributed to the negligence of Bub-secte taries , some of them perhaps could not afford to lose their time in looking after the business of their respective asaociatlpns ; He therefore thought it vrauld be proper for that delegate meeting to recommend to each association the propriety of remunerating tbeir ani > - secretariea for loss of time . Mr . Chance thought it would be improper to make such recommendations . They had all to make eactiSces , more or lesA He could not agree to lay down & rule for the guidaace of any association , because if a man made any extraordinary sacriflce , the body he belonged to ought to be the best judges of the mode of remunerating him . J Mr . Follows . " -. Was of opinion that the district secretary ought to fce paid , as he hed a : vast d « al of work to

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      perfoam . Mr . Follows' resolution was then carried an . Bnlmously . Mr . Cresswell then moved ' " That a secretary and treasurer be appointed for the Convention Fund , for th « counties of Warwick and Worcester ; '' The motion was carried unanimously . Mr . Cresswe ' ll was appbiritsd Becretary , and Mr . Barlow consented to assiat'ljim . Mr .: Follewa , of Mdnmottth-8 tieet ,. was unanimously' appointed treasurer . Mr . A . Fu 83 ellthen addressed the delegates . ; He said that he bad been deputed from ' Mry White ' s Defence Fund Committee , to wait upon them In -order to impress on the district the necessity of aiding the fund for that purpose . Mr . White had been to Rugby ..-to see fine " soUcitor for the prosecntibn , arid transact other busiriesa connected with his defence , of which he could inform them . Mr .

      White then ' stated that as he had been served with a iirritten document from the Queen ' s Bench , calling on him to attend at Londdn- on the first day . of next , term , and as there was ' - - some rumour sx to the withdrawal of the prosecationj wisaingalso to visit Rngby to make certain enquiries necessary for his defecee , he went there on Friday last and had an interview with Mr . Harris ,, the prosecuting attorney , ¦ who informed him that in consequeDce of & mistake whick he had made in taking the affidavits of the witnesses for the prosecution , the first indictment or information ^ had been withdrawn , but ' lihat ! they were proceeding with the ease , and Would apply to the Queen's Bench for another in the beginning of the term . Mr . Hoey stated that Mr . White's defence iaai was the first thing they meant to take up in Coventry . He recommended the sscretary to correspond with the other towns in the neighbourhood , requesting their co-operation , and hoped that each delegate present would exert

      themselves in aid ot the fund . Mr . ; Cresswell moved , " That eaeh Council be requested to exert themselves on behalf of . Mr . White ' s defence . " Mr ^ Chance seconded the motion which was carried unanimously A conversation tken took place as to the progress which was being made in procuring signatures to the National Pdtition , which was satisfactory .: Mr . Cresswell stated that as . Mr . White was the only person nominated for Warwick and Worcestershire , there would be no ballot enterad into . He therefore thought that the ; election should take place aa sooa as possible , and a public meeting called for the purpose . Mr . Hoey moved , " That each town be requested to hold a public meeting for the purpose of carrying out their previous nomination , and that it be done before that day month . On the motion of Mr . Fellows , the meeting adjourned to that day month , tolassemble at the Ship Inn , Steelhouse-lane , at two o ' clock . A vote of-thanks was given to the Chairman , and the meeing seperatedi

      EARNCNE . D -WICK . —Mr . Dnffy lectured here on Thursday , Jan . 6 th , to an attentive audience . BRABFOHDi—New Leedb . —The Chartists of this locality met on Sunday night last . . Mr . Matthew Bradley was called to the cbair , Mr . Ross lectured te a yery-attentiye audience , after which Mr . Dewhursfc addressed the meeting , ; ^ , ' BYJKEREiI . lt—Lectures .. ^ ld discusaions continue to be holden in the Primitive Methodist chapel , every Wednesday evening . The cause ia going on well ..: /¦ :. £ 1 VSRSIDGE—Littlb Town . —The ; : ChaiiiBta Of this place have long Wen pat about for the want of a

      room to meet in , but . they have at last succeeded in obtaining one occupied by Charles Brook ( a thoroughgoing Chartist ) capable of holding a goodly number . The Gospel is preached twice every Sunday without money and without price .. An association was formed oa New Year ' s Eve , eighteen members we : e enrolled , and it is worthy of remark that they haye formed a uVala adult school , for the instruction Of each other in reading , writing , and arithmetic ; they have also formed a library upon a very simple plan , isvery member bringing a book , say twenty , which will enable each member to have a fresh volume every week , for twenty weeks . .: -: - : ¦ . ' . ' , ' " . ¦¦ ¦ : ' "'¦¦ ¦ ¦ . : ¦' . ' :. ¦ ¦ ¦ - ¦ ¦ : '¦¦

      IWIDJJI . ETON . —The Chartists of this place held their usual weekly meeting in their ; Association Room , on Sunday last The Secretary read over the accounts connected with the Association , and at tha conclusion several new members were enrolled .. , ; : Chartist SckoOLr-n-The ^ Chartista have ; opened their A 8 sociation Room for the purpose of establishing a Sunday and evening school / to teach reading , writing arithmetic , and Engiish Grammar . It bas only been in existence about a quarter of a year , and they have about . fifty scholars . No papil ia allowed to enter this Bchooi under ten years of age .

      ABEHDARE . —The Chartists of this place held a meeting on Tuesday , the 4 th inst ., at the New Inn , Millstreet , Mr . William Charles wasappointed to the chair ; Mr . Bayleys , from Merthyr , expounded separately , the six poicts of the People ' s Charter , ia English , in a masterly style , which gave great satisfaction to a roomfull of attentive hearers . After Mm , ; Mr . John Harry rose , and , in Welsh , made a very appropriate speech on the same matter , and proved that no other means could remove the distress bow existing amongtte working classes in this kingdom , without getting tka People ' B Charter the law of the land . After enrolling fifteen new members , making a total of ninety-three , the meeting separated . / V '; .. XDt 33 . —On Monday last , Mr . Knowles lectured here on : ths evils of class legislation , t o a numerous and attentive audience , iafter which eight members were enrolled .

      BRADFORD . —COUNCIL MEETING . —This body held their usual weekly meeting at the North Tavern , on Sunday evening , Mr . John Borrows in the chair . A letter whs read from the General -Biptist Body offering to join the Chartists ,, if the meetings of the Council were changed from Sunday to a week night . A deputation , consisting of Messrs . Brook , Ibbetson . and Smyth , was appointed to hold a conference with them , and explain the reasons why the CoubcU meet on Sunday . " . From twenty-sjx to thirty thousand signatures are already obtained to the petition . The Council men banded to the TreasurerHeveraljfiums collected for Mrs . Frost , and the meeting adjourned to Sunday next , at six o ' clock ia the Evening , wken the report of the conference with the Baptist body will be submitted to the Council . - ¦ ' .- ¦ ' . ' ¦ ' : :

      3 SOWLXKG . —Back-lanb . —The ehartists of this place met on Sunday evening last , in their Association Boom , to hear a lecture from Mr . Henry Hodgson . Mr . Hird was called to ^ he chair , who briefly opened the meeting , and introduced Mr Hodgson , who delivered an able and interesting lecture on the present state of societyv and ' the future prospects of the toiling and enslaved millions . He dwelt at great length on the remedies proposed by the difFerent parties for the restoration of the comfort and happiness of the working classes ; and proved , to the satisfaction of every one present , that nothing short of the People ' s Charter would ever restore this country to its wonted greatness and prosperity . :

      Delph Holes . —The Chatti 8 t 8 of Little Horton opened their new place Of meeting on Sunday . Mr , Ingham , of Bradford , preached an excellent Chartist sermon in the afternoon , and Mr . Thomas Ibbotson , another very impressive sermon in the evening . After the evening service , Mr . Brook announced that it was their intention to enter into a subscription for Mrs . Frost , and stated the difficulties under whieh tnis-amiable * ' Whig-made widow " laboured .- ;¦' . ' .. ' : "' " v- : ; - ; . .: " ' . ' . ¦¦ ' . . . ; - > . -: . K i ^ i ^ IlK ^ Mr , W . D . Taylor preached two 8 f rmohs h < 3 re on Sunday afternoon and evening , in the Large Association ltoom . which waa filled .

      The Ghahtists of Newark , wishing to testify their loyalty to the Queen , agreed to call a public BveetiBg of the inhabitants , to be held on Monday evening , at seven ^ o ' clock . The town crier was applied to to announce the meeting , but he went to consult hia Worship the MayOr , who ordered him not to announce the meeting , which was to memorialise the Queen on the birth of a Prince ^ and for the restoration of Frost j Williams , and Jones ; but there was , notwithstanding , a . " . verygood [ meeting . Mr . Jaines Saunders was called to the chair , and briefly introduced -Mr . Taylor to the meeting , who brought forward Mr . Bigg ' s Midland Counties Charter , and in aH able speech pointed out the

      supa-Donty of the People ' s Charter over Mr . Bigg ' 3 partial one .: At the conclusion of his address , Mr . J . Li / ioham moved the adoption of the memorial , which was seconded by Mr . F . Houghton , and carried unanimously . Mr . Thomas Simnitt moved a resolution , which was seconded hy Mr . W Ingram Haw , and carried unanimously : — " That this meeting views with disgust the partial , uncharitable , and disloyal conduct of the Mayor in refusing to allow theerier ' .-to" call this meeting for the purpose of memorialising her Majesty , and are resolved on all occasions to protest against and oppose such conduct . " At the close , four new members were enrolled .

      IRVINE . —A . meeting was held here , in the hall of the Eagle Inn , on the night of Friday , the 7 th , Mr . Andrew Garven in the . chair , for the purpose of hearing tho report of Mr . George Hume , our delegate at tbe late meeting in Glasgow . The meeting having heard the same , tendered hiin ^^ a vote of thanks for his services , and agreed to receive the report for their fu rthet consideratioh . Disappointment and dissatisfaction were expressed at some of the resolutions coma to by the meeting at Glasgow , particularly with respect to the National Petition .

      The following resolution waa unanimously agreed to : —^ Seeing that .-.. "" the large meetings lately held throughout Scotland either tacitly or by public resolutions pledged themfelves to Feargua O'Connor to adopt the National Petition , aa : drawn up by the Executive of England , and as the Scottiah Convention , in our opinion , have committed political suicide by departiug from--. the same , we , the Chartist ? of Irvine , do resolve not to etultify our former resolutions by going into any other petition for the present . " . - . .... ¦ ¦ ..- ¦'¦'¦ v . :,- ¦ ¦¦ ' ' - ^ -:::. '¦' ¦ : ¦ . ¦'¦"

      BURTw— -Mr . Charles Connor ^ Manchester , lectured to the people of this town , on Monday evening last , in the Gardeh-etreet Lecture Boom . There was a large and attentive audience , and he gave general satisfaction . WOTypN ^ UNDER-sbOE . —Mr . Knowles , of Keighley , lectured here yesterday evening week , to a crowded audience , ' . * ' ' On the evils of pas t Government , " and urged on his heareriB the necessity of union to establishthiPet pie ' s Charier ai the law of the land . ' ' :- - ¦ -. . ¦ ¦ :- "• ¦¦ - ¦ •• ¦ ¦¦" " ' ¦ ' - ' - ¦' . . . - '¦

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      THE TEN HOUHS FACTORY QUESTION . 1 T-. EPOltT ADDRESSED TO THE SHOtT-TlME COMMITTSKS OF THE WEST BID 1 > G OF TOhiiSHISB , OF CEHTAXX CO > 'FEEESCES HEt » "WITH XHE KIGHT H 0 S 0 CKABLE Slfi ROBEBT PEEL , BART ., JLP ., A > D SEVERAL OF HIS COLLEAGUES , OX THE SUBJECT OF THE TEN HOCKS" FACTOBT QUESTION . iSD OTHEB 1 MP 0 BTANT MAXTEES .

      ( Conauded from our lasLJ lyTEBTIETV TTITHH 1 S 6 UACE THE DCKE OF BUCKISGHAJI , LORD PB . 1 VT SEAl- r No . 4 . < 5 . 1 presenting Lord Whsrndiffe ' s letter at tfce residercecf ths Duke of Buckingham in Pili-mall , at a lati hour in the afternoon , bis Grace appointed the following Eiurning for an interview . At the time fixed , tbe deputation vrere in attendance , and were immediately conducted to his Grace , who "was in readiness to K * vive tht-m . -which he did in the moit affable and fKrndly manner

      As on former occasions , the deputation proceeded to explain tfctir views on the question of the Ten Hours ' Bi 1 in its various agpett 3 very fully . To their statemtiits his Grace paid ihe most marked attention . He ro > ke -spith evident pleasure of tbe intervie -w -which tie jl ^ tcashiie depufet < on bad iitsi sfiVhl ^ ni a short , titne pr ^ Tious , and shewed that their representations \ rere well remembered by him . The general condition of the "W .-Tting classes in the manufacturing districts ; the inil ^ Ecs oi tbe factory system in producing that condi :--m ; sea the past , preset t , and probable effects of nuctiEtry : w ^ if amply explaineQ and discussed , jogt ther T » itu the Tesuits that "srould be likely to follow from frf-s- trad *; , in cornexion "with the esibting system . Ibi necessity for the extsnsive adoption of a systematic pj ^ 2 cf home colonization was also isif » b » fore his Grace ,

      ¦ wfcf > said , in reply to the representations onthiseva-Jitiis ht 3 * 3 i . ** 1 wish snch sonnd views as yon have ju-i now cxprrssed vrere oft € ner advocated in the House of CX-. mir . ons . " He added , " Whether as holding a sitajtion as a member of the Government , or in mj prv ; ite capacity , you may ccminanri my services . "With letpect to ibeTen Bours" Bill , I am with you tntirely . ; an > i indeedjin this matter I shaJl art with my fritnd snd yonr friecd Lord "Ashley , 'who has ? o lonf and ean-estly Liboured in this catse . Those labours bare mice him fni ! y acquainted ¦ wila the snljeet in all its begins ? , and I canuot do better than act with him in reference to it . WhateTer he may resolve upon , in connsiion Tfivh yourselvi-s , stall receive my hearty suppen ; and 1 shall at all times w happy to receive aay communication from you , and to forward ,, to the nti ^ ust of n > y power , the or-ject you have ir . view . "

      'I ' Uti drputadon expressed their high grstificaticn at ihti = frant aToi ^ ala of sympathy end friendship on the par : of his Grace , and asked , " wlitthfcr he thucght it acUi > ab ! 2 fvr them to see any otaer rofrahrrs of ihe Cabinet ? To-which be replied , " Certainly ; I stouid ad- ise yen to fce all who are in town—Lord Ripon , the Lord Chiiitelior , Lord Skoi ^ t . I do not know how tbtir rn ^ agtmtnts stand , but there is to be a Cabirc-t Council this afternoon , wLen 1 shall mention thems : itr . snd comHiunica . ta the result to y- ' : u in wriiin £ . If I can be of any Eerviee to you , I shall be mss : hairy- " The deputation then withdre-w , after an interview of nearly an r . uar , very n : uch delighted with the frank and trc ' or courttous reception which they had experienced from his Grace . George A- Fleiltsg . Joshua Boi > so > " . Joh . v Leech . Maek Grabtilse . Titus S . Brooke

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      INTERVIEW "WITH THS LORD CHANCELLOR LTMJHURST . ( No . 5 ' . ! On the same evening iSatur-iay , the 30 th October ) the Duke cf Baeklsgbaiii sest a note , stating tli 3 t tha loid Chanctllor -sronid receive the deputation oa tha foliotrina Monday , at his residexce in Gfcorge-stre = t , Hanover-tquure , at one o ' clock ; and that Lord Stanley would see the deputation at the Colonial OSee on tha ESiXic day at fwo o'eloek . tcg = thei vrith tho Cliancellor of tbe Exchequer . L rd Kif-t-n had left tovm immedi-: tt " y iitsr the Council brose trp ; and it tras not coesid'red advisable to setk an iriUrvi-. wsith tbe Duke of "WeUinvjUin , as , on the fencing of tbe saire dsy , the fire Isftd ocenrred a . t the To-B-tr : and it was ! judged that his Graca , as Lurd Eish Constable , woul ^ be too much eiii- ^ ced to -affcrd timetoTecsive lie deputaUoa .

      Ia accordance wiih tie written intimation thus prtmptiy and kindiy coat eyed to them , the oeputation attrudiii at the Lcra Cliscc ^ lior s it toe time appointed , sn . 6 wer « shown into a walttng-room , where a number of ~ t fT&CTS were assembled , cppareiifcly a 2 so waiting bis Lor ^ u-Mp ' s convtniesce . The tieputation bad n-t ; li * wfrver . baen in art ^ r-Oaace there more than a minute o ? z ^ o , when a g > xnt \ ew 2 a , yr ' nom . bom his remainiDg in the roc > m during the subsequent interview , tbe deputation concluded to be his Lordship ' s private > ecretary , desired them to walk np stairs .. * : iid ushered them inttf asoAer a ? artnjs ;; t The ir ^ rt ^ effian alluded to ,

      theu isquirtd wheiher we "were pressed fc ; r time , a 5 the liom Chancellor was a £ that nsoment particularly engaeed with counsel , upon an important case ; to ¦ wb : . cn it was replied , that as fir is regarded the time of the deputation aa indmdaais , they Wrre entirely at his Luru > hip ' s service , but that rbryhsd an eEiagement ¦ with Lord Stanley in . an hour , aad if the . conversation ¦ with Lord Lj ndfeurst djonld last any time , it might cause a failure ia tiiat evgzxerr . ent Ths gentleman said that lie -irojiia siato ibis fi > ct to toe X . -ora ciiiuicellor , and left the rooin for that purpose . In a few minutes ht rstnrned sccompanied by his Lordship .

      ( Tbs deputation have been thus minute in relating \ rbat "Wyuad otherwise be unimportant circumstances , simply because they are desirous of doing f nil justice to the courtesy and attention which they uniformly experienced , as representing considerable portions of the working classes . ) The conversation Trhiih ensued with Lord Lyndhurst took a similar course to that which the deputation had ha < i -wixh Lord Wharaciifie and ilr . Gladstone . His lordship display&d great readiness in comprehending the ext-rut , tiitj nature , and tbe effects of th-s proposed measure ; in analysing its ieadicg enactments , and in bseing their probable constfubncts , in reference both to individual and also to national interests . He subjected tbe uepuiation to a closo examination as to the

      working of the present act , inquired minutely into the general condition ef the population in the manufacturing dL-tricts , and the leading causes wLic ' a had contr ibuted to produce the iiepiorable results stated , more especially with reference to the 'working of the Poor Law ar ; d machinery . Eis Lordship appeared to be favourably impressed with the arguments , facts , and details bj whica the deputation supported tbeir vifwa on the matt-or immediately under discussion ( the Ten Hour's Bill , ; and tiwse otLer more esteade-I laeasures wbich they look the liberty of submitting for bis Lordship ' s considtrstioii . As , bowtveT , - the conversation presented na essentially new topic as compared "With those of which tbe deputation have already given an outlipe , it iB unii = CeSiiry to go into detail on tho present occasion .

      Theinv . rr . ew lasted fieaiiy an hour , and at its close the Lord Chancellor said , that the deputation might depend upcu bis giving ttie suoject a full and sympathizing considisratiun in conjunction -with the rest of the CabiDfct . He added , that " he had been strongly impressed by tte importance and necessity of the case during the very gratifying conversation which had taken place : and b . 9 was deiiglited to see that this amicable mode of bringing tbeir grievances before the Government was adopted by the working , classes Great nintual benefit would result from sucii friendly sad iernparate eommuniestiona . The deputation migiit rest assured that the subject wou : d receive that atttn-15 on -Knlsh its importance destrved ; and ho again begp 3 to express the gratincafiDn he had received from their Tuiu "

      Tne deputation responded to hi 3 Lordship ' s feelings , ' . by ixpnsTjig tbe pleasure they also had derived from j the interns w , and were leaving the room , when Lord ' lyndturst- added , " 1 shall be most happy to receive % ny f oriher communication from you , on this or any . EUi-jact of general interest , on wl-icii you may at all j times ccsmiand my services and best attention . " * i Lord Lyndiinrst evidently possesses mental powers I of tbe first order , and if the visit o * tha tieputation ; should have "the tfiect of indiitriug him to turn his sttentiun to this subject , and the social condition of ; the working classes generally under the present opera- ; tion cf machinery , this interview will have laid the foundation of an amount of good ¦ which Kinnot now be ! fully estimated . George A . Tlehisg . j Jo > hua Eobson . i Johs Leech . . ' Mark Craetree . ' Titus S . Brooke . - \

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      FREEDOM OF THE PRESS . A most densely crowded public metting was held at the Social Institution , John-street , Toitenham Court Road , London , on Friilay evening , Jan 7 th , in consequence of tbe Bristol matistr . itea having instituted a proseculiea against Charles Southwell , for publishing his own opinions in his own way , in a weekly penny paper , called The Oracle of Reason . At eight o ' clock there could not bo less than fourteen hundred persons present Mr . Clakk was called to the cbair , who in a few brief preliminary remarks called on Mr . Southwell to adcress the meeting .

      3 Ir . Southwell , incoming forward , was received with loud , long , and protracted cheering , which having subsided , he said he would not take up the time of the meeting with a relation of his sufferings . What was the Archbishop of Canterbury about 1 Where were all the well-paid Bishops and clergy , that they did not answer him ? Bad writing could produce no bad effect , if the peopJe had been well educated . It was because all the Archbishops , Bishops , deans , and deacons cuuld not answer him , and because , if truth prevailed , they would be obliged to give up their rich livings , that they had resorted to prosecution . ( Loud cheers . ) He was equally opposed to physical force madness and moral force delusion , and , consequently , cuuld not agree that every law , however , bad , should bo respected . ; he believed the time

      had arrived when plain speaking , and public honesty , were held in esteem ; what he had written he would defend fearlessly , and without the least reserve , ba the consequences to himself what they might . ( Loud cheers ) You are all interested in the question at issue . SSall we be at liberty to express our sincere opinions or not ? The day will come when you will langh to scorn all those who would dare to curtail the liberty of the press . I have this great consolation to know , that roy sufferings wiil be your gain . ( Thunders of applause . ) Lord John Russell recently said the thing was finaltkathe-was not prepared to stir up the cauldron of public Opinion—that he could not bring himself to favour any further organic change ; but , said Mr . S ., if you , the people , will it , they must have change , whether they will it or no . ( Loud and long continued applause . ) .. ¦ -. ' . ;

      Mr . Cohen requested , and was permitted , to address the meeting . He stated he would permit freedom of opinion generally ; but when they -went the length Mr . S . bad done , he would have the law most stringent , and such persons severely punished . ( Great hissing , and cries of " off , off . ") Dr . Shaeman , a dissenting minister , came forward , and in a most eloquent speech , denounced the prosecution of Mr . Senth well . He said the Bristol magistrates were a set of fools . If they had let Mr . S . alone , tfae Oracle of Reason would have died in three months ; but now they had taken the means to give it a long life .

      Such things had always thrived by prosecution ; he could not agree with Mr . S . in opinion , but it was not at all in accordance with Christian principle to resort to prosecution . Why did those who received ten thousand a-year not come forth and reason with Mr . S ., if they could not , and it appeared they could not , by their actions—let them throw up their stipends , and he would meet him , and he thought he could convert him ; but prosecution , and persecution , having been resorted to , he ehould feel it his duty , as a Christian minister , to aid and assist tbe oppressed . ( Loud cheers . )

      Mr . Whitelock said Scripture gave no authority for such prosecutions ; he , therefore , could not agree with Mr . Cohen ; he was decidedly favourable to the fullest and freest liberty of the press ; but being a moral-foree Cbarti&t , he did not like Mr . S . ' a allusion to moral and physical force . . ¦ Mr . HiJTHEHiNGTON said when he was prosecuted , he had asked the Attorney General to define blasphemy , but the Attorney-General could not tell him what it meant ; but he ( Mr . H ) thought be had discovered whas it was , namtly , that we should not print , publish , or debate upon any question that was iikeiy to deprive the priests of ttid loaves and fishes . ( Great applause . ) He believed is was Uia duty of all to unite to uphold the palladium of our liberties—a fiee press . ( Loud cheers . ) .

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Jan. 15, 1842, page 6, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct582/page/6/