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      A UT 2 HA 1 TRANSLATION OP A LETXXB WHICH APPEASED IS l&E CDGOBS , A WELSH PAPKR , prBUSHED BT TH * WO&JLI 2 K } « ' ¦

      bandied years hence . Tae grave will be 7001 freehold , also my lodging . Why , then , will we be oppressors ? There is to be a day of judgment and reckoning , and if jon will escape , great will be year blessing ; because yon h&ve sinned against the poor hy luring and embracing cruelty and tyranny in the company of Whigs and Tories within the walls of St . Stephens . The people know it , and understand it : you are under a mark of thai ? discontent at this moment , and yon know for what reason . And if you possess a moral and feeling conscience , I would not grow jealous of it for all your wealth . Hah ! fie , Guest ; fie for shame . Is it sot an exceedingly bad principle to oppress and become wealthy at the cost of the misery of the poor of the land ? Do I beliere that you understand the signs of the times , and that which is likely to take place ere

      loog ! - I hsve no reaso * to believe that yon do comprehend the signs of the times better than a new-born child does . Ton had a lesson on the day of the last election in Merthyr , yes , a very admirable lesson . Though you ¦ were not previous ^ , I am certain , but in the hom fee' * of politics , and if you hare not yet learned to spell and read , and gone on with uncommon progress in the grammar of politics , you are one of the most emptybeaded and the greatest numskull witbin Merthyr and its neinity . Xero fiddled when Rome was on fire . "

      I am afraid that you are too much like that prototype ef all cruelty . The power of Nero was in spies , in his soldiers , in his servants , and in his hypocrites , and I warrant , in persons who were at that time held in detestation by human kind , as the rural police are at this day in our country . Ntro was a tyrant . You nave supported the most expressive and tyrannical Ministry thai eTer existed in Britain . Seriously , Sir , how did you lose the majority on the day of election , and you , a rich man , the great lord of the blast furnaces , the puddling , and the cinder tips , and God knows what besides . Dsar me , fie , fie , how nnfortunats ! What ? The great knight of tbe tenpounders , and the coal wheelbarrows , loosing the mai « rity by a show of hands on the day of election . and

      Morgan Williams , a wearer by trade , a gentleman by morals , and a man by principle , and naturally , when possessing the properties I named , a Chartist , c * , if you like a true , not an hypocritical Christian ; it is not at all , then , surprising that he carried the day . Well , again , Sir Josiah John Quest , how did you lose the election ? I will explain the matter to you Immediately . Be patient to read , and not too stupid to understand . It is true that the ass moves on under a heavy burthen when he ia pricked . Come now , Sir , we will reason about the election , on the signs of the times , and on the contention which is probable to take place . The workmen , though you want them to remain ignorant , know well that you supported the shabby Ministry of the Whigs to pass the New Poor Law Act , which vu made against the testimonies laid before the House of Commons .

      The workmen consider tha : yen voted to oppress and enslave them , so do L The workmen belieYe that you caress the Whig infernal machine , to kill the poor , because it puts money in the pockets of the wealthj corps , in more than one way . The workmen know , and that from unquestionable evidence , when a man will sell himself to deal in the defilement of living ol the cost of the conJorts of the unfortunate , or when he will support and incite others , or allow others to do such s filthy and a fiendish work , it is evident thai such a man , if you will permit the expression , is z stinging and a poisonous snake . Seriously , Guest , can you deny in the face of the country , and in the face ol

      yonr Tore , to punish the poor -wane than punishing thieTes , that you did not sting and poison the poor ol Great Britain , when you Toted for the New Poor Liw , and because you are one of the set of the fcul , bloody , cruel , and unprincipled men , Who voted for the divorcement of man and wife , by parting them , endeaT&ured to stifle the human and fatfceriy feeling through parting children from their parents , and sporting with the bodies of the poor , by putting them under the Dead Body Act The conduct of the -workmen of Mertbyr , and each of the middle class , who were men of sense , was nothing but natural and proper .

      If the workmen are , as a body , not able to comprehend as philosophers , beliere me tkej eon feel as men when under oppression , and they are not whoDy destitute of courage , thank God for that Sir Josiah John Guest , listen- Nothing wiil bring men to consideration sooner than oppression . Beep meditation makes men philosophers ; and once a philosopher , if he be not an abject being who has sold himself to all wickedness and unbridled desires , he will become to know his right as a man and a citizen . "There is no aetd to thank the Devil for his kindness , " is an old ssyiisg . older than you or me . No thanks to the hellish set , that is the question , because they are by nature so ungodly and fiendish , thai they -win do no good but by force , and wholly against their -vrill .

      I am sorry to assert that you hold the same relation to the ¦ workmen and the poor , the residents of the BastileB , ai tife old serpent , Satan , holds to the damned in helL If -we will fight Satan with the energy of a sincere beart , G ^< d will give aid to escape from his iron fanes . So , if the people of our country "will unite with sincere hearts to prevent you and your associates , ei these folks of the same stamp , frem going into Par-Eamfcct to talk nonsense , and that nonsense , terminating is oppression , and fix in lieu of you honest , veracious , and virtuous men , perhaps John Fairplay Will come to shake hands -with John Bull , and release him of a burthen which will make him once more a fr « r John . Bet we must remember , " there is no need to thank the Devil for his kindness . " Did you believe that the workmen of Merthyr had forgot the part you plajfei in the case of the Glasgow cotton spinners ? Ha ! ha !

      Did you not strike the weak with your fist ! Yes , with your own -wicked net . You know that upwards of ten ttc-usatd of the working men of Mertbyr signed the National Petition . Did y . u support their petition ? No . Then , by all reason , they hate you from the utmost recess * of their hearts . It is not all pleasure to -degrade fen th » us 2 j ) ds . Time will telL Where were you at the time Mr . Buncombe presented a petition for addrtaire h « Majesty in order to release those whom tyrant call political offenders ? It is true you were in Dowlm

      , hiving erecUd a chapel to preach and pnbliih the Eierey of God . But , friend , did you exercise the opportunity -which was offered you by Mr . Duncombe to sho-w i ^ tTcj to those who are in prison in cold holes , suffering under the dreadful , terrifying , and devilish silent system ; yes , sufirring pains worse than the pains 01 death . Ah , Guest , assuage yourself ; you turned the d « f ear towards the-roice of mercy , when yen could nave shown mercy , although you and every body else are ra-. fcer distant with your account when nothing but aercy -sriU settle the bill

      Old hypocrisy , deceit , and flattery built the chapel ; tee workmen know that , and they have set an indicaoon or their di * gust upon you by rejecting you , and hoosng Morgan Williams . I am yours , D 6 > 0 T CASE FOR ASTBOST .

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      > 0 TEL APPROPRIATION OF A BENEFIT SOC 1 EJYV 5 FUNDS VESTED IN THE SAVINGS' BANK . ~ Ediioe , —I am induced to request the insertion « this Liu-r in your extensively circulated Star , well caowiEg thaj jU coiumag jje always epen f 0 T any in . Mttacon which has a tendency to ameliorate the "fetched condition of tfca working classes . ^ The poor , or labouring class of inhabitants of this & * o * gh have been subjected to Tery great privations in we win cr E « ison , owing to a difficulty in procuring we accessary article cf coal ; indeed , to such extremes nu this privation arrived , that , in the severe winter Of 182 a—30 , n was sold as high u three shillings P « cwt . ^^

      la cr ^ er to obviate racb occurrences for the future , vanou * means have been adopted , such as coal Ciubs 7 some of ite benevolent and -wealthy inhabitants ; "no others insiituted by the operatives only , but which P * e wily partially diminished the probabilities of -dis-« sj arising from the like cause . Now , iir . Eiitor , the point to which I wish to draw 5 » « ttndon of yonr readers is , the subject of Sfck « aefit Societies and- SaTings Banks ; we Have a ¦ Ottri&hing nxntiy of that descri ption ia this town , who * y * » Tcrj Considerable sam deposited in the SavingB ***** . TLe members of this society knowing from past j ^ Penrrce their liabilities , recently agreed to appropriate a portion of their funds to the purchase of ccals wsuch of their members as required them , and who P&ed to pay uae shilling and sixpence per nionfc ' a . for « tun ol coal supplied to them until the V . iole is w 1 " ^ hem .- acting upon this agrcem ' . ^ , the

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      officer * of the society gave the requisite notice to the conductors of the Savings' Banks of drawing out the required sum for that purpose ; when the Acting Manager , who is one of the Borough Magistrates , expressed a doubt as to the legality of applying any part ef the funds to such purpose . Thus circumstanced , and desirous that their proceedings should be strictly legal , they wrote to John Tidd Pratt , Esq ., Barrister at law , stating the case , and requesting his opinion upon the subject An answer has been received to the effect , that such an appropriation of the funds was perfectly legal in consequence of ( he above answer , all those members wh » require it are being supplied with one , two , or three tons of coals upon the foregoing conditions ; which not oaly secures them against the contingency of a severe winter , but protects them from the rapacious coal merchant , aad effects a saving of four and sixpence per ' ewt

      My object in writing this is to give publicity to Hie subject , for the purpose of inducing others placed in n imi ) i > circumstances to avail themselves of this information before the winter « ets in , and go and do likewise ; aad by the bye , if it ii legal for the members of a Benefit Club , to sapply themselves with coal from their fundi , I can se « no reasen why they may not be supplied with sach a thing as a sack of flour , or many other articles upon the same principle , and thereby bumble the pride" and arrogance of the shopoeracy , so as to compel them to acknowledge that the toiling million * are worthy of the franchise , for tbey are capable of conducting their own e&kirs ; to say nothing about the effect upon Government , that tha withdrawal of large suns from the Saving * ' Basks would produce . ilr . Editor , as this is Intended to benefit my fellew man , 1 trust to b « excused in any error I may have fallen into , and am , with sincere respect , Yours , in the cau » e of JHmocracy , E . L . Northampton , Oct . 11 , 1841 .

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      CA . SE OF DISTRESS . TO THB EDITOB OP THB HOBTHERX STAB . Sib , —Oh the 7 th of August last , Mary Appleby , the wife of William Appleby , of Northwood-street , was delivered of three children , and her husband being out of employ , the poor woman is in a state of starvation . Sir , I will not attempt to describe the wretched state of this po « r , helpless family ; but hope yoa will notice in your invaluable paper that the husband is out of employ . The three helpless children are named as follows : —first Mary Anne ; s * cond , Maria ; third , Feargus William , in honour of that noble patriot Feargtu O'Connor . Sir , by inserting the above , you will much oblige , Your most obedient servaxt , John Lisemorb . Upper Hospital-street , 17 Court , Birmingham , Oct 11 , 1841 .

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      TO THB EDITOR OP THB NOSTHBRK STAi . Sib , —As a constant subscriber to your widely circulating journal , I hope you will find space in your valuable paper for the following : — Arthur Blackburn , a member of the old body of Hethadists fox above forty years in this town , and was chapel doorkeeper for a number of years at St . Peter ' s , died of three days' sickness en the the 25 th of September ( Saturday ) , and was buried on Sunday , the 26 th ; -and the Christian body thought proper to deprive the widow of that day's pay ( Sunday ) , which came to 9 d , and charged the poor widow 16 s . for opening and shutting the grave—a piece of ground which he , when he lived , purchased , and paid above £ 3 for it Be was paid quarterly for being chapel doorkeeper , and his quarter happened to be up on the day he was buried . He was a good liver among tfee body to which he belonged , and an upright man .

      Now , pleas * to compare this with the late William Dawson of the same body , and by so doing yoa will much oblige , Your humble servant , his Johh H Hakker , mark , A Member of that Body . October 7 th . 1841 .

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      CABliXSZtE . Important Decision as to JfoiiciPAL Voters . —A Court was held a few days ago , at the Town Hall , before John Dixon , Esq ., Major , Mr . Simon Pattinson , druggist , and Dr . Barnes , the two assessors for the borough , for the purpose of revising the Burgess List . It appeared that , in the Ward of Botchergate , the overseer , Mr . Donald , had been taking unwarrantable liberty in reducing the number of names upon the Burgess LiBt . In 18 S 7 the list contained upwards of 600 persons , all of whom at tha " . time were deemed eligible to rote ; bnt since this orerseer came into office , he has frittered away the number from time to time , till at present the list contains only about 100 names . This overseer , at the

      dictation of & Whig clique , who wish to make the Burgess List subservient to their own sinister purposes , has gone upon the wholesale principle of disfranchisement , by putting ill off the Burgess List who j do not pay the poor-rates directly . In consequence j of his omcious conduct , about 140 persons sent in ! c . ' aims to the Town Clerk , to have their names 1 placed upon the Burgess List : of coarse , it was left { to the Mayor and assessors to decide how far Mr . j Donald , the overseer , had acted in accordance with ; the spirit of the Act of Parliament . Messrs . Bow- j man and M'Kenzie acted on behalf of the claimants , ; who were , generally speaking , not able to attend , ' from the nature of their employment . A long desul- j tory discussion took place on the subject of land- j lords compounding for their rates , as it had been j

      decided on a former occasion that no tenant wa& j entitled to be placed on th « Burgess List whose land- \ lord compounded for the rate 3 . It was finally j decided , however , that as the compounding was a j matter of convenience with the parish , and as a ; greater amount of rates was got in that way , than ii \ the tenements were rated separately , that all those ! tenants should be placed upon the Burgess List , pro- j viding the rates were all paid up to the time required j by the Act of Parliament . It was also decided that j all tenants , whose landlords paid the rates , were also eligible to be placed on the Burgess Roll . Out ; of 140 claims put in , 136 were sustained ! Thus 1 have the vile and selfish designs of a few di&ap- 1 pointed Whigs been successfully frustrated by the exertions of a few individuals , and the Tery liberal decision of the Mayor and assessors .

      BRADFOSD .-One day last week , the Whigs went through the farce of nominating constables for the ensuing year , and a most stupid affair it was , they being •* left alone in tbeir glory . " Sir . Sail occupied the chair , for the purpose of receiving the nominations of his son and a Air . Buck , who being duly proposed and seconded , were , with the assistance of the Chairman ' s right hand friend aud spokesman , put and carried . A vote of thanks was accorded to the Chairman for his efficient services , which he , probably thinking it acre complement ,

      had not the good manners xo acknowledge , and turning his back upon the audieEce was about to make his exit , but on beiDg reminded by his supporter on the left that his arduous duties were not quite terminated , having a still greater effort to perform in recording a minute of the formal transaction in the Vestry Book , he remained to complete the burlesque . K * ally , if the humblest mechanic in the Chairman ' s employment haa not acquitted him--self infinitely better , we should havo declared him utterly unfis for Universal Suffrage . —Correspondent .

      DUNDEE . —The contest betwixt the Chartists and the factions in the election of Police Commissioners for this place took place on Wednesday last , and excited an interest greater than any which we ever before witnessed at a borough election . The Chartists held a meeting on Tuesday evening , which was numerously attended . At ( . his meeting the conduct of the police in attending public meetings in the character of spies was by the various speakers severely reprobated . Resolutions were come to , pledging the electors then present to exert all their influence to return men to the board who would put a stop to snch a system , &c . By an early hour on Wednesday all was bustle . The system of keeping ¦ " open houses" was resorted to by both Whigs

      and Tories—so much did they interest themselves in keepiDg ont the Chartists . The conclusion of the polling showed , however , that democracy was Dot to be put down by such foul means ; and that neither fair promises nor whisky could induce the people either to abandon their principles or their friends . Although we had some instances of barefaced renegadism on the part of those of whom better things might have been expected ; and , although we have lost the services of some useful and honest men , yet , upon the whole , it was a decided , and ( as far as we have heard ) a bloodless victory 4 n favour of tne great and glorious cause of Chartism . Mr . Corstorphan , the superintendent , we are credibly informed , after carefully examining the new list of Commissionere , made up his mind to resign his office rather than encounter the

      opposition from that quarter which he expected to meet with . But , alas , how short sighted , how frail , ana helpless a creature is man . He had scarcely formed his opinion ere the hand of death relieved him from the cares of an earthly office . He conducted the cases before the Police Court , on Thursday , in his capacity aa public prosecutor , as usual , retired up stairs to his parlour alter , and stretched himself upon a sofa , to read a newspaper , from which he never ros ^ again .. The cause of death is not properly ascertained . As an officer he was severe and rigorous . When he came here first , instigated by two magistrates we could name , he made an ineffectual blow at the Chartist cause , and has continued less or more our enemy ever since , but he saw at last thai tbey were too powerful for him . The situation is an excellent one , and many applicants no doubt will soon be in the field fori ; . But if this meet ? the eye ot

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      any of them , they may rest assured that although they h » d it they will find that they cannot hold it long without they respeot the rights of the poor . Mr . C . was a shrewd , active man , about middle age . He has left a widow and two children .

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      Ma . Gbimshavt , who was town-okrk of the borough of Wigan from 1818 to the passing of the Municipal Reform Act , 1836 , is claiming £ 7 , 642 , as compensation for loss of his offices . The kkmovai , vf Sunderland light-house from the north pier in an entire Btate to the eastern extremity of the pier , a distance of nearly 500 feet , was safely and successfully completed . Thb obioimal South Foreland Light , which was among the first erected in England , is now under process of demolition , being already almost levelled to the foundation . Bt thb death of W . Harmon , Esq ., Q . C ., the following lucrative appointments have become vacant . —Council to the Treasury and the War Offioe , and Attorney-General to the Duchy of Cornwall .

      Sir Thomas Wilde , the ex-Attorney General , was thrown from his horse , the other day , near Southgate ; luckily the honourable gentleman fell on his head , and by that means escaped aay very serious i njury i The amount of silver e ^ w ' n and bullion shipped at Dover in September , 1841 , was 280 , 555 ounces . One of the last acts of Lord Melbourne ' s administration was to give a pension of £ 50 per annum to Miss Clapperton , sister of the African traveller . Dispeopobtiow op Wealth . —A too great disproportion of wealth among citizens weakens any state . Every person , if possible , ought to enjoy the fruits of his labour , in a fall possession of all the necessaries , and many of the conveniences , of life . No one o » h

      doubt bnt such an equality is most suitable to human nature , and diminishes much less from the happiness of the rich than it adds to the poor . It also augments the power of the state , and makes any extraordinary taxes or impositions be paid with more cheerfulness . Where the riches are enjoyed by a few , these must contribute very largely to supplying the public necessities ; but when the riches are dispersed among multitudes , the burden feels light on every shoulder , aud the taxes make not a sensible difference on any one ' s way of living . Add to this , that where the riches are in few hands , these must enjoy all the power , and will readily conspire to lay all the burden on the poor , and oppress them still further , to the discouragement of all industry . — Hume .

      A Fortunate Discovert , —A few days ago a poor labouring man , named Warren , residing at No 3 , Hose street , Seven Dials , purchased , at a second-hand boot and shoe Bhop , belonging to a man named William Mason , in Monmouth-street , Seven Dials , some Bluohers for himself and children , for three pairs of which he paid 83 . Thurday morning , after he had worn the boots for about half an hour , and as h « was going out for the purpose of resuming the labours of the day , he felt one of his boots pinch him at the side , and ripping up the lining for the purpose of removing some hard substance that he imagined he felt within , he was most agreeably surprised to find between the side lining and the upper

      leather ten £ 5 Bank of England notes , whioh had evidently been most carefully secreted by tbeir former owner . The poor fellow ' s joy knew no bounds , ami ere long the whole neighbourhood was made acquainted with his good fortune , as he regaled , in the afternoon , his most intimate friends « nd neighbonrs with a dinner , defrayed from the pecuniary assistance thus unexpectedly received . It is supposed that the boots in question formerly belonged to a miser named Andrews , for many years a resident in the Dials , and who lately died , leaving property to the amount of several thousand pounds , the whole of which has fallen into the possession of his brother , a mechanio , living in the same locality .

      The p arties who have been so busy in getting up petitions and memorials to her Majesty , praying her not to prorogue Parliament without taking into consideration the corn question and other measures , might as well have spared themselves the trouble . They trusted to hare the opportunity of laying them at the " foot of the throne , " as they term it , forgetting how distasteful it is to royalty to be bored with the mention of vulgar misery and distresses . The memorialists will be indulged in no such luxury , either themsejves or by deputy . They , or Lord Ktnnaird for thefci , have been informed by the Lord in Waiting ( Byron ) that it is her Majesty ' s pleasure to receive the petitions only through the Secretary of

      the Home Department . Him , as he is paid for it , her Majesty judges to be the proper person to be tormented and plagued with such trivial matters as the starvation of the community , and an increased supply of food . Avaunt ! ye starving wretcheB—keep away from Court . Presume not even to think that you will be permitted to set a foot within royal palaces in order to set forth your sufferings and wrongs . These will be only attended to in the regular way when sent through the regular channels . They will be received courteously , and lodged safely enough in the Home-office ; but if you should fancy that one farthing ' s worth benefit will result therefrom , jou are greater fools than most of your neighbours .

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      IRELAND'S WOES AND REMEDY . It is refreshing to perceive that all Irishmen are not besotted ; that there is some life of patriotism which views the gangrene in its own foulness , and apart from the foul dressings of the great political empiric . As evidence of this , we have great pleasure in giving the following article cut from an Irish paper , and sent to us by a friend : — " To what purpose are sll the Parliamentary Committees in relation to Ireland ?—They do not even touch the surface of the gangrene—Whv ? Because th « whole produce of the country is collected into the granaries of ten or a dozen sections of legalised quacks , and the residue of the population are left to feed with the pigs upon roots aad garbage!—This is the true and

      simple source of Ireland ' s poverty—but where is the Parliamentary Committee , or any otber committee , or association , that tells you this ? Not one—they all peep through their eye-glasses at the surface of the body of corruption , and they start at its horribly ulcerated aspect ; but not a man of them , in or out of the house , has the manliness to touch the core of the disease—consequently , Ireland ' s doctors ( and they are numerous ; are either abominable quacks or damnable impostors . Now , only think , if the crop on a farm of 10 , 000 acres were gathered into one granary , and there reserved for the luxurious living of a single man , while the labourers employed in saving the immense harvest had been referred to the roots that nad escaped the spade and scythe , for a maintenance proportioned to

      their wants . Only think , we say , of the grave and sapient office of a pack of quidnuncs , deliberating , in a solemn assembly , as to the bent method of curing the disease of poverty , arising from this unlimited monopoly of the produce of the farm , without once hinting the necessity of laying a strong legislative finger upon the monopoly itself!—Only think of this , and then give vour opinion of the competency of these sapient legislators , or of the eect-moagers who traffic in the ignorance and credulity of tbe people for their own profit , to restore to the population on such a farm , a more wise and equitable order of things . " it is with IrelaBd exactly as with the farm just noticed—iu conquerors have banded it over as a rich monopoly to half a dozen sections of its own creatures .

      and these , having gathered into their respective granaries the essential produce of tbe land , the poople are left to feed or die upon the roots and garbage , as circumstances may happen to direct . You have your church granaries for your bishops , with their hundred thousand or two hundred thousand acres of fat church lands , while the working clergy , in divers instances , are left to starve [ Quer ( 3—Would not one bishop for each province be quite enough ?] You have your deaneries and pluralities in the re re of these . You have your college granary , with lands amounting to the revenue of ft rich German prince , together with large and liberal contributions from all the pupils , te make that granary overflow . [ Quere—Would not these pupil's fees be a sufficient compensation for tbe instruction of their

      masters ?] You have your Poor Law granary at Somerset Hoase , ia London , with thousands a year to each of She legalised commissioners , with £ 700 a year to each of their assistants , with enormous taxes upon all tbe householders of the kingdom , with able-bodied paupers in poor-houses , doing nothing for their own support ; and with armies of beggars in the capital and country , that neither our Poor Law system , nor [ our burking system extensively carried on for the supply of the Scotch markets , can visibly reduce ! With these and a thousand other granaries that might be named , tbe produce of the country is swall © wed up—tbe

      indusrioss population are left to straggle or to starve—the umerous claims that come upon them they cannot leet—the revenues of tbe land are drained away—and ie once prosperous manufactures of tbe country that 'ould have supplied this drain , have been comparevely extinguished ! Such is and has been the slate t Ireland since it was made an English draw-farm by ie act of Union ; and nnleas the population join h&ndi-hand in order to restore their extingvdshed manufacires by a wise progressive system of support , the juntry most expire . Its beggars har a progressed as its ¦ ade declined ; and this will be ita-experienee even to ie end of the chapter .

      " Now if Heaven has conferre /' i upon this country lexhaustiWe resources ; and if G- , *! ia everywhere preait to open the understandings and guide the energies f Mb people ; then -why , in the , name of comoira sense , rhy so many impostor gods t 0 eat np the produce of tie land , and leave the tradi' jg classes to contend with ifficulties that overwhelm , and the labourers and artiins nothing to support thr jr families but the roots that av © escaped tbe moirer > scythe ? " Were Mr . Bharmar . Crawford ' s proposed law of indlord and tenant brr > ngut into operation , this widepread « pp .-eeswa 0 / the peasantry would receive a

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      gentle check . A country ( snch as the North ot Ireland once was ) combining manufactures with agriculture , never was , and neyer will be , overran with paupers destitute of employment , and perishing for want of food—but this rational and Christian system keing incompatible with a wholesale Monopoly of Iand . lt is consequently rejected by those who have conseated to the banishment of o « r manufactures , and wAscrlbed to the English plan of converting Ireland into a drawfarm , and a consumer of tb « good * whioo England , by her capital and machlneiy . * x du » lve » T proaooc

      " It to to this system of monopoly we are indebted for the physical rrils which afflict our country . Ireland , piaeed under wise , Christian regulation , would fro-Tide more than twenty millions of men with every comfort essential to tbe well-regulated enjoyment of human life ; and yet , with a populatien of less thai nine millions , she is comparatively starting ! This is an evil that ought n « t to be borne—that none but traitors to their country will subscribe to—and in handling such s > subject he must be a despicable coward and a slave who -will speak of its injustice in measured language . " This is doubtless a right estimate of the source » f mischief ; but it falls short of devising the actual remedy , which can exist only in the power of lawmaking possessed by the whole people . The " property" classes will sever remedy the evils of their own creation .

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      OTPiwcmAJff , Rutland . —Mr . Editor , —By inserting the following ia your paper of next Saturday , you will extremely oblige the friends of true liberty that dwell in these Tory-ridden counties . We are very thinly scattered , and as an instance of this fact , I fee ] it my duty to say that Mr . Robert Hames , of Ouudle , an independent gentleman , is the only person of that town , who dares publicly to avow the principles of Chartism . He has been , and now is , a great friend to this and every good cause . I am the only person in ^ WiWon , that can bid defiance to the local tyrants . On Friday night , a meeting of the total abstinance society was held in the Town Hall , at Oundle , after which , the friends of teetotalism met at Mr . Francis ' s to transact business

      relating to the society . This Important place bas been shamefully neglected by the professors of Christianity , but now some have made an effort . Tbe principles of teetotalism and the Charter are rapidly prevailing . Agitation aid consistency alone are wanting . Mr . Hames , although a moderate drimker , gave 2 s . Si . to suppress intemperance , and told the persons that addressed tbe meeting he wanted Chartist lecturers also , and that he will give them something when they come to Onndle . I agree in every respect with tbe real National Charter Association , and should feel proud of my name being enrolled in it I view the new move party as false friends aud opponents of universal right . We must have the Welsh martyrs back . I am always thinking of them and have a board out at my door daily in behalf of them . I rejoice to hear that our undaunted friend

      Dr . M'Douall bas been at our county town , and that the Chartists there are alive , though Whlggery is buried and comfortable . One of the Council at Northampton informs me that this coantjr is likely to be agitated forthwith . I hope the Executive of Manchester will be supported . We will have the Charter and nothing less illustrated . The useful people only want to bear of it from the months of their fellow men and women , to embrace its welcome points . A 41 parties confess that something must now be done , to relieve the present distress of our native land , although Sir Robert is for consideration . I have been a teetotaller about five years and a Chartist ever since I got a glimpse of the Northern Star . I am indebted to a working man of Kettering for the information of your publication , that has been such an incomparable enemy to despotism . —I am , Sir , yours very respectfully , William Cooper .

      MANSFISXiD . —A large meeting took place in the Market Place on Thursday last Mr . Monks was unanimously called to the chair , who stated that tbe object of the meeting was to memorialise tUe Home Secretary on behalf of our suffering brother , Robert Peddle , and to hear a lecture from Mr . Dean Taylor , the Chartist missionary for this county . Tbe Chairman called upon Mr . Thomas Datton to propose the memorial , who did so in a brief speech . Mr . Russell , from Nottingham , seconded it in a neat speech . Mr . D .

      Taylor supported it in a masterly manner , by depicting the cruel sufferings of our imprisoned brethren . A vote of thanks was given to the Chairman , which , like the memorial , was passed unanimously . The meeting quietly separated , after purchasing a quantity of Chartist papers . Tbe Chartists met in their room , in the Lawn , on Sunday last , to transact their business . A letter was read from our esteemed friend , Samuel Holberry , a Chartist prisoner in York Castle—the sum of 6 s . has been collected , and sent this week to Holberry .

      LEICESTER . —The movement goes on steadily , and yet rapidly , as ever . The entire number of new members last week was forty : this add « d to the increase of fifty , forty-four , forty-two , and sixty-two , of the weeks preceeding , ( all removals , deaths , &c . taken into the reckoning , ) bring us within about forty of flvs hundred : that half-way step towards one thousand we shall shortly reach , though it may not be this week , on account of enr October fair . We have nothing to say by way of news , save that we keep labouring on , each in his vocation , spreading the great truths of Chartism among all with wh « m each of us come in contact , aad each of us endeavouring to bring up our man to receive his card , as soon as he confesses himself fully and heartily convinced that the Charter is right The weather being unfavourable on Sunday , Mr . Cooper was compelled to give up the projected open-air meeting , and addressed as many as could possibly squeeze

      into the room of AH Saints . Open , at night , from " He that loveth n « t his brother whom he bath seen , how can he love God whom he hath not seen ? " On Monday night , Mr . Cooper being much indisposed , did not enter on the intended series of lectures on Astronomy , but addressed the assembly in the Guildhall for a short time , on tho life of the illustrious Newton . Messrs . Smart and Markham contributed to the evening ' s instruction also , by able remarks at some length , partly on the advantages of knowledge , and furthermore , ou the general aspect of political affairs at tbe present time We are taking steps for securing the Guildhall as a place of meeting on Sundays , during the winter ; are making arrangements for tbe O'Connor demonstration ,-for getting signatures to the National Petition , fcc . ; and in the midst of all this , we are endeavouring to perfect our class system , so as to secure the greatest financial effects from our limited resources .

      NEWCASTLE . —On Sunday evening , Mr . Morgan preached in the Chartists' Hall , Goat Inn , Cleth Market , to a very attentive audience , after which several members joined the Association . Mr . Morgan had good meetings at tbe following places this week , at all of which tbey pledged themselves to the Charter , and nothing less than the Charter , viz ., Felling Shore , Blue Quarries , Wrickington , and Bsdlington . Mr . M . ia aorry that the inclemency of the weather rendered it utterly impossible to keep his appointment with the good men and true of Uswortb , last

      week-Tub Chartists of Newcastle held their weekly business meeting on Monday evening . Mr . Dees having been called to the chair , the Secretary read the minutes of last meeting , which were confirmed . He likewise read several letters , which he was instructed to reply to . Mr . CrathUB introduced Mr . McPherson , of Aberdeen , who submitted to tbe mt-eting a proposed plan for associating in one body the productive classes of this country , to be designated th » Universal Association of Producers . The following resolutions were then agreed to . 1 st . That the Secretary be instructed to write to

      Mr . O'Brien , requesting him to become a candidate for this district to represent us ia the . forthcoming Convention , and that the different localities in tbe district be corresponded with , apprising them of the same . 2 nd , That the Treasurer be instructed to purchase a ream of paper for the NaUeual Petition , according to the dimensions given by the Executive . That a general meeting of the Members be held in the Chartists' Hall , Goat Inn , Cloth Market , on Monday evening the 18 th instamt , to nominate a fit and proper person to represent the district of Northumberland and Durham in the forthcoming Convention .

      OTJSEBURK . —The Chartists here held their usual weekly meeting ou Sunday last , which was numerously attended , and several new members were enrolled . The address of the Executive , recommending the appointment of a Convention , to meet in Londoa , in the Month of February , was read , and , after considerable discussion , the following resolutions were carried unanimously : — " That this meeting highly approve of the plan of the Executive , relative to the appointment ot a Convention , to meet in London , ia February , aud pledge themselves to aid in carrying it oat with ever ; means in their power . " " That the conduct of Charles Attwooil , Esq ., at the Corn Law meeting held in the Guildhall of Newcastle-upon-Tyne , ou the 5 th of October , in bringing forward an > address to her Majesty , endeavouring , though a breach of faith , to pledge the Chartists there assembled to the Malthusian doctrine of ' tbe country not being able to maintain its inhabitants , ' and endeavouring to blink the question of

      Universal Snffrage , under the Whig term of ' extension of the Suffrage , ' after the solemn pledge given in his name to the committee of final arrangements , -which sat tbe evening before , and which committee was composed of deputations of the Ouseburn and Newcastle Chartists , that the parts of the address struck out by thorn should be left out , and the other parts altered to tbe words and meaniBg then approved of , and on which pledge alone they consented to Mr . Attwood ' s moving an address , is ungentlemanly and dictatorial , and done solely with the view of recovering , by means of the Chartists , his lost popularity , and we deem him to be totally undeserving of any confidence ot respect from the Chartists of England ; and we , the Chartists of Ouseburn , pledge ourselves never to have any farther connexion with either him , hia Corn Law , Colonies , his currency humbugs , his extension of the suffrage , or his one pound notes , our motto being simply the Charter . "

      A Political Lecture is delivered in the Chartists ' room , near Bjker Bar , on every Tuesday evening , at seven o ' clock .

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      BRADFORD , NELSON-SrraaiT .-On Sunday last , the democrats in this district , assembled at the house of Mr . Win . Smith , when an association was formed . It was determined to join and »© support the National Charter Association . sVOMDOM . —The Social Hall , John-street , Tottenham Court Road , having by its spirited Committee been thrown open for public discussion , the Chartists of the Metropolis , ever on the alert , took advantage of this dieumstaneft , « u » d proposed for discussion tbe following *« ery = — " W « uld the People ' s Charter , if it became tbe law of the land , remove the distress of the country V Tbe discussion came off on Friday evening , at eight o ' clock . Th « plaoe was crowded to excess , and manv wan unafcle to procure admission . Mr .

      Goodfellow Imiag proposed th » subject , opened the question , stating that it was with diffidence he appeared before such an assembly , he being but an uneducated working man , yet he was proud to acknowledge himself a Chartist , and would , to the best of his ability , advocate the principles of Chattism . That great distress existed in the « ountry weuld be most readily admitted by all parties , but each bad tbeir separate scheme to relieve it . One party says there is no remedy but tbe repeal of the Cora Laws—another none but Emigration . He was tker * to propose to them tbe Charter as a remedy , and he belUved it would be a safe and efficient one . The sovereign herself from the Tnrone admitted the distress , but in the face of thiB a Parliament , sailing itself tbe Commons House of Parliament , consulting iu

      own pleasures , earing nought for the distress of the country , adjourns for its members to enjoy the sports ot the shooting season , aad proposes no remedy to remove the distress . Appeal after appeal has been made to that House . Petition after petition has been presented , but how have tbey been treated ? Why , allowed to lay over to tbat day six moBtns . It is useless to appeal to the parties in the present House of Parliament ; for however they may quarrel amongst themselves , they always combine to plunder and oppress the people . ( Hear , hear . ) The only remedy for this is to obtain every man a vote in the election of the Commons House of Parliament We should then be able to return men who would endeavour to remove tbe causes which have created tha present distress . It has been

      objected that we are Levellers , Destructives , fco . I utterly deny it We are for liberty to all—tyranny to none . We repudiate the idea of physical force—our only object is to obtain a true and just representation of the people , that they may be enabled to obtain a fair day ' s wages for a fair day's work . Mr . Goodfellow hero read extracts from Paine , Cartwright , Cobbett , Blackstone , ic ., shewing the justness and desirability of our obtaining the Charter , and called upon all parties , whether Socialists , Corn Law Repatlers , or whatever class or sect they belonged to , to unite for tbe obtaining justice to their common country . They were all seeking the same great end . He had endeavoured to point out the means . All agreed apon the lamentable poverty and distress under which tbe working

      classes were labouring . None could dispute it Let them look even to newspaper reports , and how often would they find them teeming with instances of persons dying of hudger and starvation , and of the jurors returning a verdict of " Died by tbe visitation of God . " Such verdicts were a libel upon the character of tbe Almighty , were a blasphemy upon the God of creation . Would that aome honest jury would return a true verdict—" Died . from the effects of class representation . " He called upon any who might oppose him to put aside all sophistry , and meet him on the broad ground of justice and humanity . ( Loud cheering . ) The Secretary here called upon some gentleman ia accordance with the rules , to take the opposite side of the question , but none appearing , Or . Shotskie said he did not

      intend to address them for the Charter or against tbe Charter . He intended to speak on the Charter . He considered that less distress existed in ancient times , because their wise men oftener communed together , were more united , because they travelled to all parts of the Globe to collect the good laws and customs of the whole . He thought most of the speakers at tbat Hall spoke too much by logic He did not like logic , no go » d ever came by logic He would tell them a fable . Once in ancient times there was great distress in the country , and the people wandered up and down till in a huge mountain they found a spacious cavern , and peeping through its crevices tbey saw it contained all the things

      they stood in need ot , not only physically , but also such articles as the rights of man , Universal Suffrage , &c and they further saw that but a very few were in the cavern , enjoying these good things . Well , what was to be done ? Tbe mouth of the cavern was blocked up with much stone , and they could get no entrance ; and they straight began to quarrel amongstthemselves about the best means of getting at these good things . One party were for getting a good quantity of gunpowder , and blowing it up—these he would call Republicans , but there were not many in this country . Another party were for a crow bur , or some other leverage , by which they might lift up the mass of stone—these he would call the Chartists . Others were

      for getting ropes , and dragging off tbe stones , and there they all Btood quarrelling , not one thought of getting the ropes , the crow-bar , or the gunpowder , but contented themselves with calling each other ' s method the wrong one . What we want is a large increase of the Democratic spirit , no matter where it came from . We wanted a broad basis of Union laid down , where all could lay aside their minor differences ; it would take the concentrated union of the whole , to effect a Radical cure . See the wretched case of a lad , eighteen years old , who died the otber day in the hospital , attempting to swallow a little water gruel , having been unable to procure any food during the previous feur days . He was ashamed of living in a countury where such things could take place . They heard talk some

      times of the people being driven to rise against such a system , but they were in a too starved , too emaciated a condition ever to rise . They had been drooping too long , had too long been deficient of physical force strength , ever to rise in physical force against their oppressors . In Poland they rose , because they met with a sudden deprivation of the necessaries of life ; they had not been ground by tbe hostile system to the starvation point , or they never would have risen there . He called upon all , more especially the young , to take part in these discussions , and show tbey were fit to enjoy the representation . The old gentleman sat down amidst much cheering . —Mr . Ridley said , Mr . Chairman , it is rather a strange thing at a discussion to see three speakers on the same side of the question .

      I have a few words of opposition to offer to tbe last speaker . He bas told you he does not like logic , and that we are too logical . I am for logic ; it is tbe art of reasoning , whereby we may discover that of which we are in search—the true and right road to human happiness . He also told you that in ancient times they did not want food , because their wise men often communed together : but , my friends , this is not the cose here ; our wise men commune together too frequently , for us ; they have become too wise , and , by their wisdom , have reduced us to our present deplorable condition ; but it was not the wisdom of the sage that created the prosperity of ancient Greece ; it was the innate love of liberty which burned in their bosoms , which caused them to stand erect in tbeir manhood ,

      and walk as gods on earth . The burning desire of liberty pervaded tbeir hearts ; it traversed each vein in their manly bosoms , and they disdained to be the sycophant slaves of a tyrannical despot Do you find this burning current pervading your bosoms ? No ! ye are a race of servile slaves , one and all , or ye would rise erect as mei , aud demand your fteedora—would strain every nerve to abolish the present accursed system—would , in a voice of thunder , demand the Suffrage . If ye valued liberty as I value it , ye would attain it without bloodshed . He must be a fiend , and not a man , that thirsts for the Wood of his fellow man—theas , hear , hear , aad cheers )—yet such is the effect of the present system , that in my late tour to spread tbe principles of the Charter , tbroueh the county of Wilts , the

      authorities set the blood-hounds of despotic power upon my traok . Go where I would , they followed on my lair , thirsting to gratify their employers' love of vengeance , and yet these men were compelled to be slaves- to this vicious system to obtain the means to keep their wives and children from starvation . [ Mr . Ridley heie exhibited & portion of the black bread of Wilts , for which the fanners compelled their men to pay the best price ] ( Cries of shame . ) Many in this assembly are of opinion that no good could be effected unless we first get possession of the land . True , the land is our inheritance , but of what use will be the land unless we have the title-deeds ; unless we have oar birth-right , the Suffrage ; we are for n ? class distinctions ; we will unite * with one and all , on the broad principle of justice , for tbat right

      of -which no human laws caa deprive us . Let us then throw aside our petty feuds-and jealousies , let us away with all paltry quibbles , and declare to the-despots of the load that we are capable of managing our own affiura ; . that despite of their cry of ignoraa . ee , we are intelligent enough to see that the rights of capital have been protected , while those of labour have been neglected , and that we have spirit enough to determine that this shall no longer exist ; this is- the cause of justice and of truth . Tfcere ia no ism ia this ; ifc embraces tbe whole , without distinction of creed , class , or eolour . We do not covet the possessions of others ; true , they obtained them by violence and fraud , but we are willing to forgive the past ; w » want only the power to rectify the fatwe ; we desire to see our © o . untry no longer blasted with the evils of starvatioa ; we desire to see our sires and our motbera , when unable any longer to toll and spin , bo longer to be separated that is dear tothem

      ftom each other , from everything , no longer to be treated like dogs in a union bastile , but to see them end their last days in their own happy homes in comfort and in peace ; -we desire to see our children inherit a state of freedom and prosperity , and no longer to see them fall murdered victims to a system of shameless inhumanity . The Bible tells us , that when God created man , he created him in bis own image , "in the image of God created he him . " He never created a King , a Lord , a Duke , or a Lady ; all were created equal . If any man is superior to me in intelligence , it « not by nature—it is by tuition ; it ia because bs bas been better educated . He haa been to college , and I have not , or I might have been hia equal , or perhaps bis superior , for I thirst after knowledge . Give us then the power of making equal laws , and we will soon chaoge the present howling wilderness into a beauteous paradise , where all shall be animated with the noble

      spirit of the patriot Tell . < Mr . Ridley here gave come beauteous lines from William Tell , and sat down amid tremendous applause . ) Mi . Wall—Mr . Chairman , I

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      w cannot agree ^ with some of the gents , who . have preceded me ; they have denounced physical force . What has tbat to do with the Charter removing , the distress One informs you he ia . no friend to logie ; another wastes you time by Informing you -what logic ^ ia . One refers you to the wise age of Solon , and another to the innate love of lifeerty in the Greek * . Where wa » their love of their safes whe « they murdered them ? Sorely they could not consider them wise . Tb * question Wai , would ths Charter remove the distress . Where is the distress ? Why , amongst the working classes . Whence has it sprung T Why , from the unequal distribution of property . Tou nave been told to forgive the past I am not for forgiving the past . I am for obtaining ( I am not particular about the meams )

      the church property ; we should then need no Poor Law badge . I am for obtaining possession of all that has been wrested unjustly from wl Whence has ariaem our present miserable condition , but from the land being in the possession of a few ; we want a change of representation for the House of Commons , as a leverage to again get possession of our own . They , by their power of making laws , have been enabled to gain their property and influeace , and oppress all who were not thus represented . Physical force had bean objected to . If you look at the past history of man , when did he ever get rid of his grievances , save by rising in arms against them f Look at America , for Instance ; how did she acquire her freedom , but by an armed resistance t It is my opinion , that the Charter will not be a

      complete remedy for our distress ; many of our distresses partake more of a social character . Look at America ; there we find them exercising tha principles of th » Charter In their highest perfection ; yet there we find the same parties in the state , only the Tories are turned Whigs , the Whigs Radicals , and the Chartists toco foeo ' s ; but they have the same amount of distress that we have ; and they always had . Look at their banking system ; allowing parties to overstock , to glut tbe market with paper money , for tbeir profit , and withdraw it at pleasure , to the ruin of thousands . Even to America parties were allowed to sell and purchase the land , to parcel it out among the monied classes , depriving the poor of a resource to fall back upon ; and thus we find our Poor Laws , even in America we find .

      even there ,. crowded jails ; and to their example we owe the infernal solitary confinement system . Out evils are more of a social than political character ; they arise from our class divisions , from our numberless religious sects , each looking upon the other , not as fellowmen , but : as devils ; and the same would still be the case , were we to have the Charter to-morrow ; but still it would be a something gained ; our petitions , our remonstrances , would stand some chance of being noticed , and therefore remedied . This was not tbe case at present . Look at tha time Hunt presented the petition from Manchester against the Cora Laws ; only six members of the Commons' House voted for it , while one hundred and twenty-one votod against it ; that of this number forty were manufacturers , ont of whom

      twenty are now the strong supporters of the Anti-Cora Law League ! How was it r Why , they did not then feel the intolerable pressure . Their grievances were so numerous he might take up all his time only enumerating them . At tbe head was the law of primogeniture , tkenthe army and navy , then the national debt , and above all 8 state church . Mr . Ridley had said , if he had been sent to college he might have been more intelligent ; the case was the very reverse . Look at the parsons for instance , why they were the stupidest fellows iu the community . Look at the pamphlets wrote by their Bishops ; from the earliest time to that of Philpots , they were a disgrace to a school boy . That great distress does exist was evident in this metropolis ; 12 $ , » 00 human beings rose in the morning who

      knew not ' where to procure a meal ' s victuals ; ( a friend said half a million ) . He would take a note of it Bat when any grievance was to be removed , the only way was to get the House of Commons on your side . It was bo in Catholic Emancipation , and all other reforms . It was the same in this cose . We must get a House of Commons elected on the principles of the Charter , and we should then have a chance of fair play in tbe many evils we had to compete against—The Secretary said Mr . Wall had been partly for , partly against , and called upon any person to take the opposite side . —Mr . Turner said he , as a Socialist , could not allow this question to pass without opposition , thinking it was put forth as feeler , to see whether Chartism or Socialism was most in favour with the public . ( Cries of Mo , and Question . )

      He would keep to the question , then . He objected to the Chartists , because in supporting their principles tbey used such strong language , calliag the men in power bloody despots , tyrants , &c . He thought it was calculated to create evil feelingi , indeed , be objected to all harsh names . Socialism tended to mollify the passions of these men . I do not think the Charter will remove the distress ; it does not go far enough ; it does net begin the right way . Of what use will it be to elect the men of your choice and cheer them through the street , if they do nothing afterwards ? I want to know what is to be the ultimatum , how the distress is to be relieved ? Show me that , and I would not object to the Charter . I believe the great evil to be competition , and to remove it we must take to

      co-operation . I object to your opposition te the Corn Lawb . If we cannot get the whole , ; it is not worth while to quarrel with a part If you cannot cut down the trees , tbat is no reason you should not lop off the branches . I am not bound to any system ; show me that yours is best , and I will adopt it—Mr . Stall wood said , I appear before you in a bettor position than any other of the speakers , seeing I have to follow two opponents . Most of the . preceding speakers have wandered from the subject , even while complaining of the wanderings of others . He would go direct to the subject . The last speaker stated that if be could see in what manner the Charter would relieve the distress , he would become a supporter of it The Charter , by giving a larger share of political power to the working classes , would enable them to

      return members to Parliament who would be intersted in removing the present enormous amount of our indirect taxation and substituting a property tax in its stead ; would not this be a something gained ? We should also , by having the power of governing ourselves , remove the great cause of disaffection which now exists , and tbe government would be no longer forced to maintain such an extensive military and naval force to keep us in subjection ; we should be satisfied with our own management , even if it were not superior to the present , aud we should be enabled to get rid of a host of policemen , judges , barristers , &c who are now quartered upon our resources . We skould be enabled to manage with less jails , workhouses , and lunatic asylums , we should also be enabled to do justice to Ireland , by giving her a domestic legislature . Her landlords would be interested

      in staying at home ; absenteeism would become a novelty ; the land would be well cultivated ; the resources of the nation would be brought into action , and Ireland would be prosperous . This would relieve us from the competition of one million Irishmen now in the English labour market , for Irishmen love their native land , and are only driven from it by the extreme of poverty . The last speaker said he was * Socialist ; would not the attainment of the Charter benefit the Socialists ? What was the reason thry could not establish their Communities ? Not because their principles were not based in truth , but because the distressed state of society Would not allow them to accumulate the means . What was the answer Mr . Owen got from the Marquis of Lansdowne some years ago , when he applied to him for assistance » " O no ! it would be the ruin of our

      order / ' Had not their applications for loans always been rejected ? What was the answer Mr . Owen got from tbe late Baron Rothschild , when he applied to him ? " O , you . are the men that advocates the doctrines of non-responsibility . " At every turn they were erippled for funds ; But let the Charter become law , and soon could a grant be made of some of the waste land or the crown land , some of that now misemployed as race courses and paits , be made to you , to try the experiment of a Community . Soon would their measures pf education be carried into effect , Mr . O wen himself being , as-he deserved , made Minister of Education . Soon would Halls similar to the present arise in » veiy town in tbe kingdom , and prosperity and knowledge be universal . ( Loud cheers . )—Mr . Parry , after objecting to what had

      fallen from some of the previous speakers , stated that his only objection to the Charter was that it was only a half measure , that it was a semi-Suffrage , and not a universal one , that women ' s interests were neglected or rendered subservient te those of man ; if the Charter was a remedy for distress , was it not necessary that woman should possess tbe remedy ? She had to bear the greater burden , the greater share of distress , aad was equally entitled with man to the Suffrage . Mr . Ridley had quoted Scripture and said , that it was recorded " that God created man , in his own likeness created he Urn ; " bnt why did he not conclude the quotation , " male and female created he them . " Mr . Parry , then , in an eloquent strain , dilated on the rights of woman , and was loudly applauded , and called upon O'Connor , O'Brien , and the other Chartist leaders to make the Charter a universal

      measure , by throwing aside every ancient prejudice , and boldly admitting and declaring the rights of women . Mr . Parry concluded a long and eloquent display amid much cheering ; the time for closing the discussion having arrived , Mr . Farrell moved that the question for discussion on the ensuing Friday be " The comparative benefits to be derived from an attainment of the Charter or a Repeal of the Corn Laws . " A motion was also made for the adjournment of the previous question ; but the discussion on tbe Corn Laws was carried by a large majority .--, Tne liberality of the Social body In allowing the use of their Hall for discussion , may be , if acted upon with judgment , made a powerful agent In the spread of Chartism , as you have there an opportunity of laying your principles , free ef any expense , before a body of fifteen or sixteen hundred of liberalminded men , many of whom only stand aloof from the prejudice raised against us of being physical-force

      men . East End shobhakebs . —A meeting was held at the Northern Star Coffee House , on Sunday , Oct 19 Mr . M'Carthy in the chair . After the transaction of the usual business , the following resolution was unanimously carried , " Tbat tne London Delegate Meeting be desired torequert the" Executive to pass aome general rule , specifying the time when , from nonpayment , &e . a person shall cease to become a member of the National Charter Association . " Mr . Whseler was in attendance to lecture , but owing to pressure of badness , it was postponed . A member of the National Executive will lecture on Sunday evening next , when a full attendance is requested . Delegates were appointed to the O'Brien Committee , and the meeting adjourned

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      M _ — . T © THB KDITOS OP THE SoaTH * &K STAR . gIEj As your paper is extensively circulated in this ttrmt , and as a great many an unable to read Welsh , 1 trust , as your Merthyr friends do not often trouble jou with their communications , you will not ksve the lightest hesitation is allowing tbe enclosed a small sook in your next number for its insertion , lam , dear Sir , Tour ' s , truly , In ths cause of Liberty , William Thomas . Penyr heel gecrig , ftfertbjr Tydvil , Oct . - * tt , 1 S 41 .

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    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Oct. 16, 1841, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct570/page/7/