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THE PETITION COHVEHTIC » r . THURSDAY , May 13 . Mr . Pitkeihly in the chair . The Convention Hall bad thia evening » rery full attendance of members and strangers . The minuUs of the l * st meeting having been con-Mr . Skevington stated that the Longhborough petition had received 1 , 359 additional signature * . Mr Rose said that he had had an interview -with the Member for Lambeth , upon whose support they might depend . lHear hear . ) Mr . Hawes made most
par-, ticnlar inquiries into Mr . O'Brien ' s case , wished to see his letters , and to hare an interview with Dr . STDouall , so that he might be made well tcquainted with his state of health . Mr . Hawes was of opinion that he should be immediately released . He further said that he would attend the Convention on" Saturday morninf . ( Hear , hear . ) He professed himself a Ghartist , and declared that he felt himself bound to join in the opinions of the greatest number . ( Kear , hear . ) He also consented to form one of the deputation to -wait upon the ~ Marquis of Normanby . ( Hear , hear . ) Tdessrs . Benjamin "Wood and Humphrey also promised their support
Mr . Gollen said that , in compliance with previous arrangements , the deputation waited yesterday upon Mr . Fielden , to ascertain if there was & possibility of obtaining an interview with the Queen . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Fielden seemed to know very little about the Court , and could give no opinion as to the way by which they could obtain an audience of her Majesty -, General Johnson , ¦ u pon .- ¦ whom they also waited , made very light of the matter and seemed to loot upon it as delusive . He designated court dresses as tomfoolery , and said tliat the money expended upon them would be a useless expenditure . ( Hear . ) He recommended the Ceputation to apply for advice at the
Chamberlain ' s office . They d : d so . One gentleman said that an interview with her Majesty could be ' obtained , and that tha memorials could be { resentedat i all events on levee days . Another gentleman , who ap-1 peared to bsve more experience than the former , said he j would recommend the memorials lo be sent or pre- j sented to the Secretary of State for tha Home Depart- merit They then went to Mr . Francis Place ' s . On enter- \ ing his office they found & gentleman apparently con ; reeled with the Government conversing with him , and stating that Government had decided npon a dissolution ; and that a declaration to that effect would be made in ' a day or two . lHear . ) - i
The Chairman—Did Messrs . Fielden and Johnson : aay that we could not get to the tkrone , or did they ; dvioo « u not ta go f * j Mr . Cullen . —They gave no decided opinion . Mr .: Place said that the Queen was surrounded by corruption , ' ; and that she would continue to be surrounded by cor- j ruption , until the working classes by their unanimity i Overthrew both parties who were " equally ta 1 and ' . equally corrupt ( Hear , hear . ) In his ( Mr . Place's ) i opinion a general election wtuld enable the working ' classes to achieve that victory . ( Hear . ) i Mr . Pukethly , although he differed widely in politics - trom Mr . P . ' ace , yet he must acknowledge that at \ "various times he derived the greatest assistance from i him . When the three men were sentenced . to be j hanged in Birmingham , Mr . Place did all he could to ; save them . iHeai , hear . \ He acted the same part in ' Frost ' s case . He devoted his time and his talents to ;
the saving of Frost , Williams and Jones ' s lives , i Hear , hear . ) They should avail themselves of the assistance ; of evtry man ; and -without regarding Mr . Place's i Malthusian doctrines , they should look upon him as he ¦ was , a real Republiein , and accept of bis assistance ( Hear , hear , hear . ; i Mr . Morgan—Yes , we should make as many friend 3 j as possible . ( Hear , hear . ) j Mr . Cullen said that he understood that members ef ; Parliament were admitted to her Majesty by courtesy , I and thai Peers alone tad ths right of demanding an . audience . ( Hear , hear i - i Mr . Piikethly said that the deputation appointed to ' "wait upon Lord Teynham respecting the presentation : of the memorial , esiled at his Lord ^ hip ' b house , when i they were informed that he was at Cheit jnham . They then wrote to him on the subj ^ ct ' i
Mr . Wall s ad that a frightful system of corruption "wai carried on by the Whizs . Abont twenty of them i met daily at Cleveland-row , and ninde arrangements for the disposal of Tacint places in the House of Commons . ; They agreed with the candidate who offered" himself that if he succeeded , he should pay all the expence 3 of j ¦ the election , and that if defeated , he was to pay a '• certain portion of ti . ern . ( Hear , hear . ) Hnnie and . Coppock , tee election agent , were at the head and tail j of the junta ; they should expose to the country the : base and corrupt workings of that gang . — , Hcar , i hear ) i
Mr . PitkeibJy—They should take all the help that , wss offered , and should not make enemies . —jHear , j hear . ) ) Dr . M'Douall said , that the address to the country , ¦ was ready . - j Mr . P : tkethly—The adJress sbon'd net be mad ^; public "until tiie Convention wj dissolved . — ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Martin said , that it would be well to read the address then , and it could be in readiness for publics- j tion or the dissolution of the Convention . '
It was ultimately dtcided that tee reading of tha address be deferred till to-morrow . Friday . ) ! MtPitketblysaid . tbittheyshould appoint adrputitien to accompany Messrs . Hawes snd Bnlltr o : ; Saturday , The mrir . orials ought to be presented K-paratdy , ani Bhouid be arranged ty the committee for that purposr . —; H £ ar , hear . j ' Mr . Smart—We will go ; and be all thinrs as for as we can . A general committee , consisting of Dr . M'Doua ' . l , Messrs . Williams , Smart , Martin , and Skevingtcn , -oris appointed to read all letters , and to-expedite the gene- lal business ef tlie C-jnvention . :
Mr . Skevington said that he wiHe-1 upon " his own representatives , and other Members of PdT ' aament , and '; he informed them that unless the condition -ef the ; starrirg and suffering picpie was ameliorated , that ' there would be no peace fur the home cf the rich , is . , while such a stare of iliingB existed , there was no pE 2 . ee j for the poor man ' s cottage . ( Hear , hear . ) : Mr . Smart . —Avowed enemies were better than pretended friends . If that redress was not affjrded to ihe ¦ working classes , they should address the whole country , and threaten to ^" ottinghamise it , if the Members of Parliarneiit refused : o support the People ' s Memorials and tie People ' s Charter . ; Hear , heir . ) Mr . Wall said tint the Marylebone petition Lad 1 , 500 s gnat-ores . After some ioutin « business th « Convention adjourned .
FRIDAY , Mat 14 . Mr . Birmby in the choir . Mr , Sksvington haudsd in a memorial from Lsughhoiough , in favour of Messrs . Frost , Williams , and Jones . Mr . P ' . tkethly ss . id that they were doing all in their power to r ^ certiin if tii ^ y could -obtain an interview ¦ with the Queen , as theii constituents txpiessed a stron | ¦ wish thej should t ff-ct it . After the v had had an interview with the gentlemen at the Chamberlain ' s ofEoa , who held cut no hopes ttit an interview could be hid , the deputation went to Mr . Place , who agreed to mate ail Jiecessary inquiries , stating at the same time his opinion that they couid not have an interview -wi : h her Majastv , or have an opportunity to present the memorials , unles 3 at a levee . He wa 3 also uf opinion that the memorials should be presented to Larj Mel-¦ bourne sad the Ministry , nnd that it would have a
greater impress'on than presenting them to the Queen . ( Hear , bear . ) The court drass& 3 wonld , at least , cost j £ 2 Q , which could bi better app . ied by dividing it amongst the prissaers . ( Hear , hear . ) He ( Mr . Pitk&thlT ; waited up ; n Mr . Dancombe , who pioui ' sed to sp ^ ak in the House that night upon the state of the country . With regjxd to the ten or twelve pounds paid by Mr . Dancoinbe , he was gratified on being enabled to state that the post effice intiructed a willingness to refund it . ( Hear , heir . ) He went to Mr . Barksley , who expressed himself in similar terms with Mr Daccomhe . There was no doubt of their success , if the country sanctioned and supported them . As Mr . Danconibe wis not en good terms -with the Marquis of Xormaaby , it wotLd be as well to Select Si-me other Member to accoinpiusy the deputation . ( Hear , hear . ) Lard Is ' ormanby was greatly opposed to such Ueput&ticns .
Mr . Smart said they had but one course to pursue , and that was to obtain , if possible , an audience of her Majesty . To obtain that they should txtrt every nerve cnril they were fuT . y satisfied that every access to her Majesty was b-ocked up against them . sHear , hear . ) Then they could infurm their constituents that the royal ear was closed a ^ i nst their prayers . As soon cs that gained publicity , it would make such a ; i impression as ¦ wonM foree ever ? man who regarded civil libsrty to j-iu in tb « present struggle for freedom . ( Hear , hear , i Mr . Rose—His the Convention the pawer to interfere ao far with the memorials as to direct or recommend the Committee to present them to any one but her Majesty ? Mr . Pitke ' . hly—If we had your ad 7 ice , it would Jtrengthen our hands . We will , however , again irj to present them . ( Hear , hear . ) Dr . M'Djuall—We ean recommend the Committee to
adopt" such measure * as may apvear advisable . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Pittethly said that Mr . Dnncombe informed him that Mr . Collins had been with him , and urged him to present the memorials . { Hear , hear . ) Mr , Williams—We have done our duty . i 3 tUl we would not be justified to let the memorials pass from our hands without the approbation of the Birmingham Frost Committee . ( Hear , hear ^ We are still willing to preas oh again and again for our interview with her Majesty , and to obey any farther instructions that may be forwar ' ed from cur constituents . { Hear , h ear . ) Mr . Skevington—I don't see how we have done any thing bo long as we are denied the interview with her Majeity . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Smart—A refusal to see the Queen will do us no harm . ( Hear , hear . )
It was then movtd and seconded , "That tha address to ike ooTLBtry , as recommended by the general committee , be read and adopted . " Dr . U'Donall tbes read the following address : ^
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The Adirets of the undersigned Member * of the ikctim-Rettoralion and Charter-Convention of the Industrious Classes , to the Working Men tf England , Scotland , and Wales—to the Members ef the National Charter Association—and to the Chartist Electors of Great Britain . Fellow Countrymen asd Brother Chartists You hare honoured us with your confidence , and delegated to us the most sacred and important duties . We have endeavoured to realize your hopes ; and , in tho pursuit of our humane and merciful mission , we have done everything which mature deliberation could devise or reason suggest . In one sense we have been successful , and in another we have failed . We have successfully appealed to many Members of Parliament , and have secured the support of men of opposite sentiments- and interests . Mercy has been listened to by many , and justice has been
heard . On the other hand . wedeeplyregrettheobstinacyofan unrelenting and merciless Government , which still refuses to restore the lonely prisoner to his family , his fireside , and his friends , and which denies the faT-distant exiles the hope of agiin beholding the shores cf old England , the scenes of their early youth , or the faces of their I wives , their kindred , or their children . Cin these men ; expect your suppart at the next election ? They aspire to it now—they expect it hereafter , and i therefore it becomes our duty to caution you on the one hand , and advise with you on the other . At the present
! crisis our duty is an important one ; and , feeling it to be so , we have found it necessary to act with caution , at the same time that we address you with firmness . We address you as men ruined in yonr trades , oppressed in your homes , and insulted in the midst of your poverty . Ths Rceursed Whig Poor Lvw has driven you to three of the worst of all ruinous alternative . First-, you are compelled to labour for poor and inefficient wages ; secondly , to starve within the ironbarred bastile , or steal in defence of nature ; thirdly , to seek an nnctrtain refuge in the far distant lands cf the emigrant , or btcoma the liveried servants of your oppressing masters .
The centralised army of spies and bloou-thirsty slave-drivers have destroyed your independence vt action in your homes , and your freedom of speech in the streets . We address you as men who are force i by bludgeon and bayonet beyond tha pale of the constitution , whose best friends have been imraureJ in dungeons , crowded in hulks , tortured on tread-niihs , and even murdered by the cruel devices of a vind . cuve Govirnmeut , in eell 3 where the voice of friendship ceuld cot soothe the agonies of death , or tho tears of a sorrowing wife even fall on the body of the dead . We address you as Englishmen , Scotchmen , and Welshmen , who have laid a just and merciful prayer b--fore the footstool of royalty ; and we ask you as fathers , as husbands , and as men , whether we ought to bear with patience continued refuial to our petitions , or suffer a government to insult with impunity our mild and canstitutionsl demands ?
We have made our last demand ; we have carried our last petition to the tbrene . We wait the issue with firmness , and leave the final result to the insulted God of justice and of mercy . We declare , without hesitation or doubt , that we hopa for nothing from the sense of justice which the Government pretends to ; and ire cannot conceal from you that we , on the other hand , anticipate much from the fears of a struggling Ministry , and an imbecile ami dying faction . The least aecliUnt may cast the
relentless gaolers at the mercy of the misses ; anu whilst yuu aik impitiectiy , " What shall we O . o ? " we have found it to be our duty to proclaim , on the evidence of a recent election , that the balar . ee ef the elective powei is even now within your grasp . The Chartist electors An now fight the battle of justice . Will they be firm nd faithful ? Will you be united and ready ? We loubt neither , we depend on both . Tue day of battle ipproaches . It will be an eventful day , as the issue wi : l decide the fate of ihebaaished and the incarceratedthe fate of the Charter—the fate of our cause , of our
liberties , and of oar country . The next paramount duty we have to perform is , to implore you , the labourers , to uuite . We denounce none ; we appeal to all ; an . i earnestly do we call upon you , in the nanus of Frost , O'Connor , O'Brien—for the sate of all that is dear to principle and sacred to justice , unite , unite , anile ! organise , organise , organise ! We deplore the various divisions which have weakened us and wearied ns ; and , actu-ited by the sole hope of securing your political power , and thereby du ; ng justice to all , we particularly recommend that all sectarian discussion may cease , and all party spirit be for ever s : i ; L Oh , think of the glorious cause we are engaged in ! Sympathise with the prisoner , and be just to each other , with the wives and the children , and be united to aid and protect them .
Think of your wrongs , and then only will you form a brotherhood to secure your rightf . Pa- « a vote of oblivion on the past , and let uia ^ n be the bright star to guide U 3 for the future . Wo have hi-ard much oi Cburch-Chsxtism . of Tcetotil-Chartism , and of Eiiuca tion-Chartisui ; wehoM is . toi * thesacre . lruht of tvery man to worship his M .-Jceras he thinks best ; to regulitt his domestic habits as he may think proper ; aud to adopt any one scheme which he may think conducive to human happiness ar . d social rt-formaUun . Why dispute with any 7 Wliy i : r-i invite aH to t'nter the Great . National Charter Afcso-ciatiun ? Ouren > iis cot to secure power to party , or separate privileges to Srcts- Admit all partita in religion , invite all denominations , atd refuse no man who declares himscif a Chartist ; no matter what may be his creed , his country or his caste . We liope that our appeal wjj ] not be in vain ; and having appealed to your stnje of justice , let us now address your reason , and your judgment
Our old and untiriug eneHii ' -slnvea-sccinied the Political Auction BjX , and , likd 'jr . prlucip . e 1 salesmen , they hiTe tCVred hollow and dtctpi . ve wares to the mass of onlookers . You are not to be deceived with chaff , nor will your jad ; : ! iei ! t be arrested through vc-ur txeited hopes Three minisU'W . clap-traps have b ? en ca-st up > -n the sviiUrs of opii . on . and after a few days they txpect an abund-int return . They shall be < i < -ct iveil . A reduction is 'pruposed in the Timber Duties , which will admit foreign wood at a cheaper rate , instead of the oloalal timber .
What benefit can this measure tffl-ct fur the poor labourer ? If the workman hail the meins of building a cottage for himself , hs w ; iuld not b-j a caiiur uf ten ih : i ; i :. ga on the whi / le edifice ; because th-j reduction will Ve only felt ou khiyloads ; thereby throwing t ! ic ¦ wh'jle btnefit into the pockets &f tbo cupitaii-ts , chip bui ; i . ers , and Urge importers . It ¦ vrii ' i not nia ^ e a chair or a ir . bie one f ^ rthiag cheaper , and the landlord vriil net lower his rents a single penny . Are you to . ? u ; port aa agitation for rD . ' : Ecirj ! r the dut . es ca timber for th * sole purpose of incre-sing the proiita of the cjpitalis . ts or middle chss ? forbid it , justi . ee 1 Tha saint t . llacy was made by , dint on the reduction of the duties c-n leather . It benefitted tho wholesale trader , but were shoes any cheaper ? Ail changes which appear to be beneficial to the whol-sale dealers are evtr found to b = really detrimental to the retail purchaser . Take as an
example the second Whig bubble—the reduction of the diuics on sjugar . The in-jvemeat will secure the votes of the sugar reSners , ami attract the large traders , and wholesale ^ r&cers . Again we ask what bentflt will the labourer rrceiTe ? The reduction amounts to Js . Sd . the cwt . therefore the purchaser of a pound uf sugar wuul : l haTe it G-K'ths of a ir . rthing cheaper than it is now . What coin hive we i . o txpr ^ S 3 that ? None , What difference then will it mak « to tho har . dloora weaver who buys one our . ee at a time ? Out upon the hypocritical crew ! Dj ^ n with the ri-fraudiag ministry ! — YTby did they txp .-nil 2 o . ooo , t'UJ of money in emincipatinj ; the slaves ? Why did . they then ? . » k us to paj dearer for sugw , so that the slaves might be liberated ? Why do they now ask us to accept cf cheaper sugar grown by the slaves of Cuba and the Br-zils ? Are not these proofs that their policy is one tissus of fraud , deception , and injustice ?
We are likewise destintd to have an agitation created for a fixed dnfy on com . How often must we explode the faHaeits circulated umltr this bead ? The most ar . ' ent hater 3 of the Corn Liw show us that the quartern loaf would sell twopence cheaper after a total repeal ; therefore the labourer « ho ep . raod oue sbilliDg per day , would have his vng&a raised twopence per day ; lie -who earned two thiiiii ^ s would be benefitted at the rate of feurpence ; r . nd he who earned four shillings , at the rate of eiyhtptnee per day . The
GuVernment propose to have a fixed duty at eight shillings the quarter . Under this fixed duty , the differencu in the price of a quarUra loaf could be consumed by an infant at one meal . Is it possinlo that reasoning men can be deluded by such ministerial frauds ? No ! We think higher of the reasoning workmen of this oppressed land , and therefore we content ourselves with simply cautioning you as to the dumest > c policy of the Whigs . They tell us that la ' " . < ur ¦ wiil btcume scarcer Have they proved to us that wages w-. H be higher ? Xo ! because we are sensible that there are three
powers in the hands of the manufacturers which will enable them under the present form of GoVcrnmeut to destroy that scarcity , to lower wages , iuid throw thousands out of employment . First—The labourers cut of employment , at the preserjt tim ? , are sufficient to supply ten times the existing demand . Second—if insufficient , the railways would pour into the manufacturing districts the discharged agricultural labourers , and glut the marktt in a Lv ? weefcs . Third—If both sources were exhausted , experience has prored to us that the infallible specific for high wares wonld be adopted , viz ., the introduction of new machinery .
The end of tke " whole boon * of ciesp bread , we safely predict , would be the lowering of the wages of the highly taxed operatives of this country , so as to enable the capitalist to compete with the low taxed workmen of the continent Besides ail these reasons , what human object can be gained , in a moral or physical senso , by driving thousands off the land into the unhealthy and overheated factories . Finally , our or-ject being to legislate for the labouring population , we must take into consideration the wrongs of the agricol tor&l as well as those of the manufacturing workmen . We dfijpiae all inch Whig pitsters : we want justice I t ths Terkinx men of Great Britain ; and if we mean
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to have it ire must contend for that political pewer being placed in your hands which will enable yom , not to repeal the taxes on one or two articles , but on all articles of foreign growth and domestic consumption . The duties on timber and dye woods amount to £ 1 . 668 , 584 , and on corn , grain , meal , and rice , to £ 1 . 131 , 075 ; on sugar and molasses , £ 4 , 820 , 917 . The Whigs propose to repeal part of these duties . Our objects are to abolish all , as well as the duties on tea , tobacco , coffee , wines , fruits , spices , hides and skins , -wool , cotton , besides such provisions as bacon , hams , butter , eggs , 4 c . ic < &c . ; in short , the whole host of taxes which press upon your industry , and diminish the supplies of life .
We advocate no half measure beneficial alone to the master . We extend our views of amelioration to the oppressed workmen and the starved labourers of the whole of Great Britain and Ireland . Will you support us ? will yon listen to our advice f will you pursue our directions ? Your subtle and designing enemies also design to introduce manufactured goods , and thereby destroy the trades of cork-cutters , brass founders , potters , watch aad clock makers , embroidery and needle workers , glass blowers , glovers and silk manufacSurers , ( already staTving , ) and a host of other trades , who will be overrun by the introduction of goods manufactured by the low-taxed operatives of the continent . Do you nut see , therefore , the reason why the capitalists have erected mills and manufactories in Belgium and parts of France , and likewise , why they have vested their capital in speculations in S ixony , Switzerland , and Germany ?
Do you not see the reason of inviting the operatives of this country into Holland , Prussia , audBelgium ? Their design is upon our home market , because we exclude manufactured gooda coming from other nations after the followiDg rate : — Duty . Amt . of do . BrasB manufactures 38 percent £ 1 , 710 Boxes of all kinds 30 do 2 , 709 Bugles 1 » . per lb 2 , 140 Earthenware , china , < fcc . 15 to 20 per cent 5 , « 23 Clocks and watchts 25 do 9 , 628 Copper , manufactures of ... 30 do 731 Coiton do 10 made up 20 ... 6 , 884 Embroidery and needlework 30 8 , 578 Artificial flowers 25 5 , 299 Bottles , ail sorts of glass 30 to 120 27 , 304 Hair ; md goat's wool
manufactures 30 3 , 0 . 97 Leather gloves 20 to-JO 18 , 505 Bo-ots and ihoes 3 u .. 6 , 095 Paper hangings 3 d . per lb . 1 tq . yd . 1 , 573 Silk goods . " . 2 s . to 40 s . per cwt 247 . 361 Toys 20 per cent 3 , 793 Woollen manufactures ... 15 do . made up 20 25 , 113 The cloven foot his been shown , and poverty gtares in the face of thousands of our operatives . Arise , awake , fellow countrymen , or ye are betrayed . Let the trades of this great nation vindicate their character , and come fer ward in the cause of justice and humanity . It is better at times to submit to a real despotism than to a Government of perfiiious , treacherous , and pretended friends .
We aro natural enemies to Whiggism and Toryism , but being unable to destroy both factions , we advise you to destroy the one faction by making a tool of the other . We a'ivise you to upset the Ministerial candidates on every occasion , to doubt their professions , and disbelieve their hustings promists . They even propose what they term a larije extension of the Suffrage . Be not deluded again—stand by the Charter , accept of nothing less , and like the stern and indomitublo Komans , rather bring your enemies under a despotism than be deluded with their treacherous professions . We advise you , after mature deliberation , First—To make returns to the Executive of the voters and the state of parties in frach constituency in the empire , with the view of considering the propriuty of contesting an election and of appointing fit and proper persons to do so .
Second—To raise a fund by voluntary contributions , for election purposes , and to appoint three national treasurers . Third—T <* report the places where the members are returned , and whero thtre is a liko ' . ihood of the opposiLo parties proposing to split the votes with our candidates . Fourth—To pledge all candidates to vote for the Charter , tho release of all prisoners at homo or abroad , repeal of the Poor Laos , the abolition of the Rural Police , and the removal of all grievances corup' , a \ ned of . Fifth—To elect committees for the purpose of carrying out the above objects , and to act as election committees in any placu where a Chartist candidate is likely to be returned , or a Ministerial hack upstt
Sixth—To pledge all Chartist candidates to ait and act as members upon a Convention which sh : ill rutct iu London , and be called , the GrKit Convention of the People ' s Deputies . Its constitution to be as follows : — The members to be tlie People ' s cirxli'iaUs , piopostd and elected by them to Htrvc in P . irliitinent ; the iK puties elected by large towns or counties ; and u , deputation appointed h < the Genera ! Executive ; all of whom * hall meet in London after the elections , to ck-visr the be ; t maans of securing the People ' s Charter—of lilorating tho Political Prisoners—ami of protecting or preserving the rem : iiniuir rights cf the trades and iabuurers of every description within the Ucited Kingdom of Great Biitain and Ireland .
( God safe the People ) P . M . M'DisfALL . T . K . SsiaRT . John .-kkyington . Wji . Martin . Thumas John Wall . William ?» iokgan . John Goodwyn Barmby . Morgan Williams . Lawrf . nck Pitklthly . Matthew < _ TLLiiN \ RfFFY KlDLEY . John llosc . Mr . Rose and Mr . Martin moved and seconded tho adoption t f the address . Mr . Pitkethiy atked if all agreed to the address ?
Dr . M-Douall said that ail agreed to it . The Committee , however , worts wining to introduce such modifications as the Convention might suggest ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Martin said that it ought to be issued at once . ( Htar , hear . ) Mr . Skevington said it cmld be left with the Executive to carry into effect the reconnneudatioua of the address . The address was adopted nan . con . Mr . Mart : n moved , and Dr . MDouall seconded , that it be forthwith printed . C-trried . Dr . M'DouiU stated that Carlisle had offered to split at the next election between Chartists and Torits . iHear , bear . ) > ir . Smart said that operations were carrying on at Leicester to effect the same object ( Hear , hear . )
Dr . M'Duuall said that it was generally believed that Government had resolved not to dissolve Parliament , uud that they wcuM resign . ( Hear , hear . ) It was pretty clear that Ministers would die game , and gloriously , as L ' jrd Palmerston had said they would . ( Hiar , hear . ) Mr . Pitkethiy recommended the address to be kept back until the Convention terminated their sittings . Dr . : > l Douall . —It wiil be adopttd as the last act of the Cov . vi'iAion . Mr . Morgan . —Steps should be taken to give it immediate publicity .
Dr . M'Douall then bronjht up the following report of the General Committee to the vffixt that Mr . Mason ' s letter to the Convention was of such a nature as it couid not be entertained by the Convention . That a dt-putition bo appointed to V 7 . iit u {» on the Marquis of Normanby with a view of ascertaining the probability of presenting the memorials to her Majesty , and that in case of a refusal to wait upon har Majesty ' s nrinisters to ascertain the probability of laying them before them , and that Mr . Pitkethiy , Mr . Matthews , and
Mr . Cullen , be the deputation . That the treasurer be instructed to produce his accounts on Saturday moroing with a view of ascertaining the mil amount of funds in his hands , and also the expenditure thwt has taken place . That all letters on public busiuess be handedover to the General Committee . That they advise the people of Andover to placs themselves in communic . ition with the London Committee , aa the pressure of business will not permit the Convention to lay down a plan of organisation for tlut place . The above report was unanimously adopted .
Upon the motion of Dr . M'DjuiII . it was resolved that Messrs . Morgan , Williams , Pitkethiy , ami William-, be of the deputation to wait on the Marquis of Normanby . Mr . Cu . len waited upon Mr . Oswald , the roember for Glasgew , who declined to ncc . nnpeiiy the deputation , but promised to give tho memorials and tbe petition his consideration . Mr . Cullea informed the Honourable Member that he would le : his constituents know tha reception he gave him , and his a : ; svrer to his request that he should support the memorials . Mr . Callen , in conclusion , handed in a petition from Falkirk , most numerously and respectably s ' . gned . He also handed over to the treasurer four shillings , forwarded from Falkirk .
Mr . Pitkethiy said that their friends in Parliament had expressed a strong wish that the petitions should be as numerously signed as possible , in order that a powerful impression be made . ( Hear , hear . ) Such was the recommendation ef Messrs . Duuconibe , Berkeley , and Fielden . Dr . M'Dauail eaid that Mr . Duncomte wished to know the exact number of prisoners in the different gauls , and also their names , and their state of health . After some discussion between Messrs . 'Pitkethiy , Morgan , and other gentlemen , respecting the situation of the prisoners , Mr . Piti 6 thly said he had written to a large number of their iriends to ascertain their present state , their treatment , -and the effect that imprisonment had on their health . Tho other members resolved to write to other friends of the imprisoned for similar information . After which the Convention 1
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REPEAL- " THE MISCREANT CHARTISTS "
—DAN'S SIXPENNY MEETING . On Friday the 14 th inst , a general muster of the Repealers of London was held at the Crown and Anchor , Strand . A silver sixpence afforded a pass-port for strangers , while Dan ' s retainers were admitted on presenting a card , or giving by sign , watchword , or otherwise proofs of their determination to " cat the painter . " This was called a public meeting . Notwithstanding the arrangements made by the Repealers to the contrary , a very large body of the Chartists contrived to get in , played their artillery Tery effectually during the night , and , as the sequel proved , marred tbe intended-victery of tho liberator .
A full hour haTing elapsed beyond the time for takin g the chair , the assembly eTinced strong symptoms of dissatisfaction . At length the ould Irish cry announced the arrival of the ' -lion" of the night , who made his appearance with his long sweeping tail , composed of " iny son John , " Mr . Dillon Browne , M . P ., Mr . Martin Blake , M . P ., Father M « Hales Pets , Mr O'Niel Dauut , secretary to Dan , a barrister named Mr . Stevens , and Mr . Tlraetliy Duggiu , late spirit dealer in Liverpool , and now " rint * collector in Manchester . A Mr . Edward William O'Mahony , business , profession , or residence unknown , was called to the chair .
The Chairman having delivered himself of a long speech , in wbich he lauded to the skies the jespeclability the intelligence , and the influence of tbe meeting . ( A laugh ; cries of " hear , hear . " ) Ireland , he said , was a degraded province , and England , being ignorant of her wants , could not legislate for her . ( Hear , hear . ) The Ministry , whose existence depended upon the votes of Irish liberal member * for their existence , should remember that no paltry concession would satisfy them . ( Hear , hear . ) A Mr . Hogan next presented himself . He said that
he was a working man , and would denounce the Chartists if they attempted to disturb the meeting . ( Immaderate laughter frcni the Chartists . ) If the Chartists raised a clamour , they were prepared to put them down . ( Immense confusion , and hisses . ) The liberator unfurled the flag of Repeal—( laughter)— aud would lead them to Tictory . ( Increased laughter ) Since the Repeal of thu Union Ireland was robbed of £ 49 , 000 , 600 sterling ( Shouts of laughter , amidst which Mr . Hogan resumed his seat , apparently much pleased with the hit he made . )
A Mr . O * Biuen , a true Milesian in appearance and manner , announced himself as " an exile" from his native land . ( Cries of " why don't you go home ? " ) He said that the curses of their fathers , that the curses of their mothers —( laughter)—and the curses of their sisters—increased laughter )—would fail thick and heavyl upon them if they did not repute the union . What cared Irishmen for physical-force Cnartists ? ( "Ah ! ah ! " groans , and crits of "bear , " and cheers . ) He knew something of physical-force Chartists . ( Hisses . ) They kuow th « CUartists—they defied the Chartists—( hisses)—for they knew that if the Chartists -were in power to-morrow they would act ; towards them as their ancestors did . ( Loud hisses from the Chartists , and then from tho Repealers . ) Ireland never trusted in
England that she wus not deceived . ( Hisses . ) They would obtain buck their own Parliament by the . r own stalwart arms . ( Hisses , and cries of "turn him out , " from the Chartists , and cheers from the Repealers . )« Mr . Dillon Browne said that , after much anxious consideration , he came to tbe conclusion that the English legislature was incompetent and unwilling to legislate for Ireland . ( Hear , hear . ) A crisis bad arrived of importance to England and Ireland , when the ruins of power were about being resumed by men hostile to liberty—by the advocates of slavery , and who invariably opposed Mr . Wiiberforce in his struggle fur the freedom of tho unhappy boiugs who were in
bondage . ( Hear , hear , and hisses ) He hoped that Irishmen and Englishmen , sinking their petty differences , would uuite in driving Wellington and Peel from office , and in hurling the Tories from power , ( Hisses , groans , and cheers . ) Those men were opposed to liberty , and their niolto was persecution . ( No , no ; yes , yes ; hisses , and cries of hear . ) He attended the Chartist meeting at Palace-yard , but Le separated himself from the ChuttUtB , because he repudiated the means adopted by them for carrying the Charter . ( Hisses and cheers . ) If the Chartists conducted themselves like rational men they would be supported . ( Louil hisses , hooting , cheers , und stamping of feet . )
Chairman—Englishmen should listen to him . He is inculcating the tirst principles of liberty . ( Oh , oh , hisses , and chests , and great confusion . ) Air . OCoKiNELi , —Order , order , order . [ Hero a Chartist attempted a remark , but he was put duwu with hiSboa , aud a cry of turn him out ] Mr . Browne resumed . He followed bis political leader , aud adopted his new philosophy of moral force . Physical force was the doctrine of renegades and cowards . ( Ht-cr , bear , and hisses . ) Mr . Browne was obliged to retire luiiidst tho hisses of the Chartists . Mr . O'GormaN said that if they had their own Parliament back again in College Green—( a laugh)—tluy w . uki have raoru beautiful streets —( increased laughter ) —and would erect a splendid testimonial to the Liberator . ( Hear , hear , and " Oh , oh" )
A frcotchniun named M'Leod said that he was a convert to repeal , and would give it his support The rank ; ' > ud tUlu of this new accession to repeal were not known . Mr . O ' iViel Daunt said that the Union had been forced down their throats ; they should sooner ftel at their sides for their avoids tlmn yield to it ( Cries of ' Is cot that physical force ?") TUo Utiion rybbed the .-u of £ 100 , 000 , 900 sterling . TUe bigots of Exeter HaU ~^ - A Voice—What havo we to do with them ? Mr . O Coxxell — If you will not listen to reason , others will . ( Hisses and cheers . ) Mr . Daunt—The foul C'Uurch establishment—( immenso confusion , accompanied by the cheers of the repealers , aud the hissea of the Ciiurtists . ) Mr . Daunt endeavoured to get a hearizig , but was ultimately compelled to git down .
Mr . O'Ujn . nell here introduced to the meeting Mr . Martin , a mcinbc-r of the Convention , who waa liaikd with immerse ehueriiig by tho Chartists . Mr . O ' 'Joi ; m 11 called upon the meeting to give him a fair hcariii ? . Mr . Martin , -who is the repreaeiitr . Uve of the Birliiin ^ fjuui Frost Committee , in tho Convention now sitting in Lonion , ascem ' . ea the platform amidst loud and , reiterated cheers . Order beii ; g paitialiy restored , Mr . Maitin s : iid , I hope you will tako tb « advice of Mr . O Co :. null , and . be Blunt , as I do nut wish you to give mi ? a single , cheer , but that you should bear what I luwtj to suy . ( Hear , hear , htm . ) When you hear me uut , Mr . OCoined will then have an eppurtunity of
answering me . ( Hear , hear . ) 1 , with otlv . r Chartists , r . gret that ill feeling exists between Mr . OCor . nell ami us . J am , like Mr . O Connell , a Kepealer—( cheers *—I say that Ireland has a right to a Parliament of her own , and ttiac siie ought not to be—as s ! ia is—a paltry province , for she nover was conquered , but betraye < I . ( Htar , hear . ) I am an Irishman ; and as devoted to Irtion'd as D . niel OConni-ll says that he himself is , and , as an Irishmm , I oppose tho Union which was foisted upou Ireland by fraud and by fires . ( Hear . ) I also oppose the existence ( if a Church Establishment which , under the name of Christian , has , and is still reaoy , to spill the blood of on-fallow Christians . ( Hear , hear , and cheers . ) Home of the unwashed of St . Giles hero created a disturbance , when
Mr . O'CON'NELL exclaimed will you not hold your tongue , you blockhea-. s ? ( Cheers . ) Mr . Martin—I appear here this night from no factious motive ; I only come forward to confront Mr . O'Connell , who has declared himself the enemy of the Chartists . ( Cheers , mixed with Kepeal hisses . ) Yos , Mr . O'Connell , in his letter to Lord Charlunont , after alludiiii , ' to us , says— " The Chartists , from whom we coulil expect no aid , but upou the terms with which neither you nor we , my Lord , could comply . The Chartists are exclusionisia of the worst kind . They would exc \ uda from political power , not only what are calied the upp 9 r—that is , tho wealthier ranks of society , bat even tho intelligence and independence of the middle classes . Bj assured , therefore , that , from
the great masses of popular support that your Lordship relies upon , you must deduct tho entire body of Cbartists , be they more or less . " Why . the majority of the ¦ working classes form t ' ae basis of the fabrio of society . I Hear , hear . ) The working men are the protectois of society , and the friends of Ireland , while the middle classes and the aristocracy aro the bitterest enemies of Irelaud . ( Hisses , and load cheers . ) If the working men had the privilege of voting , they would bupport the laws that would benefit that unhappy country , Ireland . ( Hoar , hear . ) It was well known tUnt the aristocracy —that the shopkeepers , anti the middle classes , opposed those laws , and u ' . d all in their power to destroy tho liberty and welfare of England and Ireland . ( Cheers and cries of hear , hear . ) The electoral power
was in the hands of the middle classes , who returned to Parliament , arihtocrats , bankers , aud wealthy landlords . ( Hear , hear . ) The magibtracy were composed of bankers—the suns of wealthy men , and of weilthy middle-class men . ( Hear , hear . ) All these parties agree amongst themselves to oppress the working classes . The members of Parliament say , t ; ke care of us and wo shall take care of you , by giving you a share of the plunder , and enabling you to extract the greatest possible produce from the labour of those under you . ( Hear , hear . ) Again , writing to Lord Cuarleiitont , Mr . 0 Comiell Bays : — " That the body of Chartists are , to say the least of it , neutral as regards justice to Ireland . " 1 deny that On the contrary the body of the Chartists will unite with the Repealers , if the Repealers will unite With them . ( Hear , hear . ) It is said that we cannot place confidence in Mr . O Connoll , and that
his conduct shows that . ( Loud cries of hear , hear , hear , from the Chartists , and hisses from the Repealers . ) I fear that he cannot be trusted . ( A volley uf hisses from the Repealers , answered by Chartist ehwers . ) I will adduce evidence that he cannot be trusted . ( Here the Repealers lost all patience , and Betting up & wild cry , endeavoured to como to an angry arilkKm with the Chartists in the body of the room ; but the latter wiaely declined tLo honour . ) It is said that ho tecoived money for his vote against the factory children , or at least for his conduct- regarding that question . ( Hisses , and cries of " Hear , hear . * V There is evidence to prove that he was called out of the House of Commons , and that in tue lobby of the House he received £ 1 , 0 * 0 , the amount agreed for . ( Loud cries of "Shame , shame , ekamr . ") I moke that charge against Mr . O Cornell , which Lieney , a working man and a Chartist , can and
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will , if necessary , prove . ( Lond cheers , and cries of "Bravo , bravo , " from the Chartists , with a few hisses from tbe Repealers . ) Mr . O'Connell has declared that if he obtains Repeal , that he will raise thirty Baronets to the House of Peers . They will be creatures of bis own , and not as they ought to be , selected by the common voice of the people . ( Hear , hear . ) Thus Ireland was to be converted into a den of corruption , ( Hear , hear . ) Was it necessary that that selection should bo made from Baronets ? ( Cries of " No , no , " " Yes , yes . " ) He also declared himself the supporter of Household Suffrage . ( " Oh , oh . ") If Mr ; O'Connell acted upon the broad principle of Chartism , he would not require the aid of tbe aristocracy , nor would the people look for their
support—( Hear , hear . ) But Mr . O'Connell shall speak for himself , and you can judge of his honesty . In hia letter to Lord Charlement , he says , " It is quite manifest that a great many of the Peers would be naturally desirous of having their sons and immediate connections in the House of Commons , and they could not expect a son or a relative to Bucceed with a popular constituency , if the Peer himself continued to oppose patriotic measures . The Irish House of Commons being a , popular party , the Government must necessarily be such us would favour the advancement of popular institutions . The consequence would be , that every Peer who held out iu opposition to such a Government would be deprived of all participation in Government patronage . ; he could not have the least hope of providing for any of
hia family through the Government unless he supported the plans of such popular Government" ( Hisses and cheers . ) In the same letter , Mr . O'Connell says , "In 1782 , an Irish Parliament threw open the blessings of education to tbe Catholics of Ireland . " Whether the poor peasantry were benefited by the blessing may be judged of by the fact that they cannot even read ! . ( Hear , hear . ) That blessing . no doubt , benefited tho aristocracy and the middle classes , but how could it have benefited tho poer peasants , or how could they , out of sixpence a , day , pay for the instruction of their children ? ( Hear . ) In tbat letter Mr . O'Connell boasts as follows : In 1792 the Iribh Parliament conferred another measure of emancipation upon the Catholics by opening the bar
to them , and admitting Catholics as attornies . In 1797 on Irish Parliament passed another act abolishing a penal statute , and authorising Catholics as eligible to be placed on grand juries , and likewise conferring on them the right of tho elective franchise . A great boon indeed , which merely admitted tbe sons of Roman Catholic gentlemen to be attornies , or rather created a now race of conjurors % ni robbers who had not the slightest sympathy with the poor , and in their oppression Were only surpassed by the rapacity of the priests , who , under the pretenco of saving men's souls , robbed their pockets . ( Most awful confusion , accompanied by hisses , groan ? , chesrs , and every demonstration of popular fury and popular pleasure ) The noise continuing , Mr . Martin ' s voice could not be heard , when
Mr . O'Connell rose and said , you promised to hear him . A Voice—He has no religion . ( Hisses and cheers . ) Chairman—Pray do hear him . ( Increased confusion , amidst which a young man was most brutally dragged out of the room and hurled down stairs amidst cries of " murder . ") Mr . O'Connell—Will you do me the injustice not to bear my accuser . Hold your tongues . Let him spin himself out , and then you will have an opportunity of laughing at him . ( Hisses and great cheering . ) Mr . Martin—When I spoke of the priests , I meant the priests of the Established Church—those vagabond robbers of tbe poor . ( Immense cheering from the Chartists , with hissing and hooting from the Repeal ers . ) Chairman—Pray , do keep silence ; the sooner the accusation is over , the sooner will Mr . O'Connell have an opportunity of refuting it .
Mr . O'Connell—Oh , no , no ; let no man suppose that there is an accusation against which I am anxious to defend myself . ( Cheers from the Repealers , and groans from the Chartists . ) Chairman—I was wrong , I should havo said that the soontr his opponent closed , the sooner Mr . O'Connell can defend himself . Mr . O'Connell , jumping up in a rage , exclaimed—No , no ; let no man suppose tbat I have anything to defend myself against ! ( Oh , oh , and immense laughter from the Chartists . ) Mr . Martin , in continuation , said Mr . O'Connell also opposed the Trades"tfnions in their efforts to secure fair wases . Mr . O'Connell—I did no such thing . A Voice—Martin is a brave fellow . Mr . O'Connell—Hear him out There is not a single wretched calumny that I will not demonstrate to be false and absurd . I will make ihort work of it
Mr . Martin . —I have another charge against Mr . O'Conuell . In his letter to Lord Charlemont speaking of the outbreak of 1798 , he classes as murderers with Government spies of that day , the noble patriots and illustrious dead who poured forth their lives and blood in the struggle for freedom . ( Oh , oh , shame , shame . ) Yes , he says that he holds in utter contempt such men as Lord Etlward Fitzgerald and the Shearer's ; ( Hisses and grwans . ) Yes , that 13 the language which he applies to men who sacr&ced thtir lives iu their efforts to emancipate thd poor Irish from the yoke , the galling , grinding yoke of an heartless aristocracy . ( Hear , and cries of " shame . ") Speaking of them , Mr . O'Connell says : — " As to 178 S , we leave the weak and wicked men who considered force and Bacguinary violence as part of their resources for ameliorating our institutions .
and tho equally more villanous and designing wretches who fomented the rebellion and made it explode iu order that in the defeat of the rebellious attempt they might be able to extinguish the liberties of Ireland . We leave both these classes of miscreants to the contempt and indignation of mankind , and we equally with your LirAship , detest and deprecate the crimes of both . " Is that language becomingan Irishman ? Should such assertions escape his lips ? As irell . is . Mr . O'Couiiell I am a paid agent . I am a member of that Convention which is now sitting in London for the purpose of devising measures for the restoration of Frost , Williams , ar . A Joneo , anA the liberation oi aU Chariis' prisoners . (• Cheers . ) The Convention are nut aware that I attend here . Nor could , I do so with their approbation , as they have passed a resolution prohibiting their members interfering , as members , in public meetings .
Mr . O'Connell— Don't mind tke Convention ; go on . Mr . Martin—So I will , Mr . O'Connell . You stated that tho Chartists who were convicted deserved punishment—( groans)—and that you would lead over 50 M 00 Irishmen to put down Englishmen . ( Hisses , groans , &c . ) There ia not much philosophy , there is not much philanthropy in Mr . O'Conneli ' s acting with Melbourne , who apprised of , nay , who encouraged the Manchester slaughter . ( Hear , hear . ) There is not much patriotism in Mr . O'Connell ' s ce-operating with Lord Palmerston , who could , if he liked , liberate Sligo from the two Tories who-iow represented it ( Hear , hear ) Mr . 1
O ' Conneil' "is- wonderfully vexed because the Chartista assisted in returning a Tory fur Nottingham . I assure Mr . O'Connell that the Chartists detest the Tories as much aa they do the Whigs , anil that their reason for supporting them i s , that the Tories have promised to release the 400 Chartists now in prison . ( Hear , hear , and cheers ) If the Whigs throw open those prison doors—if they act a merciful part—if they restore Frost , Williams , and Jones to the bosoms of their families , and if they release all political prisoners , the Chartists will suppart them , and will address the country in their behalf . ( Loudand continued cheerflie , and immense hissing . )
The room at this moment presented an awful appearance . The platform , the reserved seats , anl every part of the place exhibited all the rage of party . In vain Mr . O'Connell exerted his authority to preserve order irritated to tho highest pitch , he stamped , exclaiming , " For God ' s sake , be quiet ; he is no friend of mine who makes the slightest noise . " ( Hisses , cheers , &c . ) Order liavtfl& been partially restored , Mr . Martin , who remained quite tranquil amidst the storm , said—Gentlemen , I have but imperfectly discharged my duty . Mr . O'Connell has heard the charges
against him ; let him answer them . ( Hear , bear , hear , aud hisses . ) But before I sit down , 1 will read for him a report of tbe Select Committee on the Factories Regulation Act , and will then leave Mr . O'Conneli to reconcile his conscience with the course he pursued reepooting the poor , helpless , and defenceless factory children . ( Hear , hear , and cries of " Read , rea < 1 . " Mr . Martin theu read the fallowing extract from tho report of the Factory Select Committee , which contained the evidence of a factory childwhich detailed the sufferings of one ef the victims , of that acctttscd system : —
" My name is Eliz . i Marshall . I live in Leeds . I was born in Doncasier . I am seventeen years old . My father ivkaxl ; he vvaa guard of a coach . My mot . her . came to Leeds when I was nine years old , to seek work for us I got work at Mr . Marshall ' s flax mill , in Water Lane . I left there because it was so dusty : it stuffed me so that 1 could scarcely speak : it affected ray health : I should not have lived leng if I had not left The factory bell was a doleful sound to me . My . father was dead , my mother vraa very poorly off , and my sLJlBl ^ dId * I did what we could for her . I have cried many an hour in tha factory . I could scarcely walk . I could hardly get home . I was exceedingly fatigued at night Sometimes I had to he ' trailed * home . I have an iron on my right leg . My knee is contracted . It was a great misery to me to work . I was straight before . My sister has carried me up to bed many a tiruo . I have been
au out-patient of the Leeds General Infirmary nearly twelve months , and this last winter I have been in the Infirmary six weeks . I was under Mr . Chorlt-y ; they pui irons on to my legs , which cost the Infirmary £ 3 . I have gone with groat difficulty to the mill , and could not tell anybody what I suffered . They could not believe me , I am sure , if I did . My mother waa very unhappy to see me so dealt with ; she cried , but she ceuld not keep me at home . I was obliged to go or else drop hi the streets . I went to the mills as long as I could . At last I cried , and used to fall back in bed when they called me , so that they could not find in their heart to send me . I now live with my mother . Mr . Chorley has examined me thoroughly ; he says that it is with long standing , and that the marrow is dried up quite out of tho bone . He says , that when the marrow gets dried out , it will never be formed again . "
One simultaneous burst of execration followed the reading of the above ; after which , Mr . Martin left the platform amidst the moat enthusiastic cheering .
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: Mr . O'ConioSLX , then rose , and was receive ^ groans , his » es , yells , and cheers . He at first *»!!? ' * to render Martin ridicnlons by crow-examinine h £ Z * his plac « of birth , &c . Palling in that Mr op * srfdthat he never had voted against the factor ^ A Voice—Who gave yon the £ l , ooo ? Yont you got it ; we can prove it ( A general fight dirf which several Chartists were unceremoniously fZS ont of the room . ) * UIC *« ' Mr . O'CONNELt-Sir Thomas Potter declared tWu was a lie , the paper declared it a lie , and h 9 defied ht enemies to state the time or place when he waTn ^ ¦
that mnnftT . / fihfiers frnm *) u u » n ,.. i . . r * H that money . ( Cheers from the Repealers , and cripfj "We don't believe you , " from the Chartists ) n voted for eveTy Bill in favour of reduction of IaW As to the education charge against him , tho Partial tary returns proved that in Ireland the poorer CathoV who were educated were three to one as conin « 2 with the Protestants who enjoyed that blesUns- ^ J that there were more Cathol ic childrtn educated » their own expence hi Ireland than there were Pi-o ^ l ! children so educated in England . ( Hear , hear ) r would be glad to know , from Mr . Martin , which < sfth Tories promised to let the Chartists out of pri , ( Great confusion , and cries of "hear , hear . " i
A Voice—Don't answer him . Mr . OConnell— Oh , wretched , deluded men *>» support the Tories who perpetrated the Manchesb ! slaughter , and would again , if opportunity off-M crimson their awords with human gore . ( Cheers mm hisses . ) At the Nottingham election the Chartists a ported Walter , who designated Irishmen as beato brutes , savages—a filthy ferocious crew , and thA priests as surpliced ruffians and ferocious tyranta ( Hisses , and cheers . ) Yes , Walter bo desi gnated thi * venerated and venerable clergy ; and that nightZ Orangeman was breaking out on Martin , as he wasaw applying the same epithets to them , when he was « . mifided of his error . ( Hear , hear , and cheers . ) v-2 " yea , he ( Mr . O'Connell ) would lead 5 uo , 000 Irishni « nt
put down the miscreant Chartists , if they UireatenM the torch or the dagger . ( Yells , hisses , : tnd cheer ?) Mr . O'Connell then abused Feargus O'Counot , andsaia that it was reported in the Tory press that he ( O'ConS wanted separation ; that was a lie . All tha t t » sought for Ireland was , that she should enjoy th <» rights which she had before her connection with En ? land . In his devotion to his country he sacrifice , £ 3 300 a year which his profession returned him . b » refused to be Master of tbe Rolls and to be Chief Bar » of the Exchequer , both of which were offered to him \ the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland . ( Hear , hear . ) jr O'Cormell reiterated his oft-repeated arguments in favour of repeal , and concluded amidst groans hisse * . and cheers . ' ^
' Mr . John Cleave presented himself in the front of the platform , and was received with loud cheers . Hi said—Fellow-countrymen , I will not , at this late hour ( twelve o ' clock ) detain you long . I have during ™ life , attended many meetings , and I have heard maw strange sayings at those meetings , but this ajghfv sayings and this night ' s doinga'have surpassed - [ . strangeness all that I have either htard or witnessed before . ( Hear , hear , hear . ) For many years past I laboured with the Catholics in their endeavours f 0 I emancipation ; and , above all , in the exertions that were made to ameliorate the condition of tho Irish Roman Catholic working classes . ( Hear , bear . ) During those years , I never attended a meeting which ga ^ me ad much regret as the one of this niyat ( Hear
hear , and a partial dissent by Repealers . ) I asjure Mr O'Connell that he will ere long deeply repput th « statements he has made , and the language he haa adopted this night ( Hear , hear , hear . ) From tha first moment that Mr . O'Connell landed in England from the first moment that he t # ok hi 3 seat in "ths Old rotten House , " I , in common with other libenl Eneli ^ Protestants , extended to him the right hand of felloT . ship . IMve we not a right to expect that he and his countrymen should in turn bold out to us thes&ms right band of fellowship ? ( Hear , hear , cheers , and a few faint hisses . ) When the rabid Tory press , aye , aid
the equally rabid Whig press denounced Mr . O'Connell and his followers as rebels , when they attempted to cry down repeal as rebellion , and when they re commended the question to be kept back by force , then Mr . O'Con . nell found friends and stanch supporters iu the Eng . lish workiDg classes . ( Hair . ) Why then ' does-heat this moment attempt to turn upon and vilify thosemen f ( Hear . ) This is not the time for him to create ne » enemies . When the Whig and Tory press are armed to the teeth against him , as a repealer . ( Hear and cheers . ) When the only Catholic paper in London is I believe opposed to the repeal of the union ( Htarj I appeal to Mr . O'Connell if such is not tbe fact .
Mr . O . Connell . —Yes . The Tablet is opposed to Repeal . ( Hear . ) Mr . Cleave—Well ; Mr . O'Connell is anxious to give the Whigs every support , and to retain them in office . ( Hear , hear , from Mr . O'Connell . ) What difl Lord Althorp say in the first reformed House of Commons ? Hs declared that sooner than submit to the Repeal of the Union , he would risk the lUsmembo . ment of the British Empire . I tell Mr . O'CuoneO that the Cbarcists are not endeavouring to create rebellion . ( No , no , no . ) They are only strutting ( a their rights , and those rights simply consist in tha power of self government—a power to which as E » glisbraen they are entitled by the constitution of their country . ( Htar , hear . ) Mr . O'Connell was one of the firsi men to draw up the Charter , and was the first man to sign it . ( Loud cries of hear , hear . ) Mr . 0 'CONNEI . L—I draughted it ( Hear , hear . )
Mr . Cleave—Yes , Mr . O'Connell , and you were the first to sign it I hold in my possession tint signature of yours . ( Immense cheering . ) Mr . O'C ' o . nnell—I acknowledge that I signed it ( Increased cheering . ) Mr . Cleave—My delight was great when Mr . O'ConncU ratified tho Charter by affising his signafnr * to it . Sir . O'Connell well knows that until the British House of Commons be constituted upon tbe principles ' ol tho Charter be will never efFec ; Kepeal , unless he does so by open rebellion , and with an awful sacrifice of human Iifu . ( Htar , hear , hear , hisses and cheers . ) -A Voice—That's false .
Mr . Cleave . I regret that Mr . O'Conneil has made this meeting an occasion for an attack upon the Caartists and the working classes of England , and upon Feargus O'Connor . ( Hisses . ! His cmi-tuct to Mr . Martin was unbecoming—wan unmanly and aosb unwise . ( Hear , hear . ) His conduct towards Feargus O'Connor—his countryman—a Protestant—a brother barrister , and formerly a meniher of the same House with him , was roost cowardly . ( Immense rioting amongst tha Rspcalers , whose rage appeared to haye no bounds , in which they indulged by screeching , hooting , and hisses . As soon as they exhausted their
anger , the Chartists followed with repeated rounds of cheers . ) Yes , his conduct towards 1 ? targes O Connor Vras most cowardly , was most unwise , and was nn > statesmanlike in the extreme . ( Continmd hisses and rioting among the Repealers . ) I am afraid I . miist not call you , who thus conduct yourselves so indecently my friends . I repeat it , that Mr . O'Cor . neh ' s attack was most cowardly , especially when couplwi wit& tha bombastic threat of bringing over 58 Q , » 00 of hi ? countrymen to put down tho " miscreant Chartists , " as he called them , if they in any way assailed the throne of the " angelic creature" who sits upon it ( Laughter and hisres . )
. Here an indescribable scene of confusion fnsued , amidst which , we could only gather from Mr . Cleave , whose speaking at the moment was a mere dumb show , that he told Mr . O'Connell that be ought to get him ( Mr . Cleave ) a hearing , so that the pu&lis Tiiivht be made acquainted with his statements . He , howler , pledged himself that Mr . O'Connell ' s attack upon tin l ' amily of Feargus O Connor , and upon Feargm 0 Connor himself , would be repaid with interest The Chairman cried out , Gentlemen , do hearhim . Mr . O'COiO'ELL—Be so good as to listen to him .
Mr . Cleave , as soon as order waa partially restored , said , I am surprised that Mr . O'Connell mm attack an absent man—an imprisoned nv . n , as ™ ( Mr . O'Connell's ) ' countryman , Feargua O'Connor . was cowardly . It was cruel . It to onbe !' J n ^ . * a ' tatusman . ( Hear , hear . ) If the Iriih uuite wi * J ™ Chartista the Chartists will unite with them , and 5 f * union is the only way by which Ireland wiil be enab . ta to obtain Repeal , and obtain her political statin " amongst the nations . ( Cheers . ) - Let not the iwa be deceived , and let them know , once-for ah , «<>*• they will never obtain the repeal of tha Uumb , ? o long as they retain renegade Whigs in office ana ui
power . ( Tremendous cheers . ) Mr . O'Con . nell—I am asked by Mr . Cieave if I wl join the physical-force Chartists , the t ° ; rr dagger men , and if I will follow the men who wowi out in open insurrection . ( "Ko , no , " an 4 " » ea >> ¦ *' I tell Mr . Cleave tbat I will do no such thing- ln f"i hear , and confusion . ) Justice must be dona W'J ' one . Lord Althorp did say that he would « tt « s" ^ dismemberment of the empire than aseede ^ " ^^ forced upon bim by a faction . ( Hear , hear . ) also said , that if the universal Irish pe op . e < les' *~ they were entitled to it . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . C cave w , plains of my attacking Feargti 3 O'Connor . Has bb ^ his papers , which calumniated me ? When i w . posed in Leeds to the assassin ' s dagger , h&a . i&s O'Connor the honesty to t ^ ke my part w nu t . Once for all , I tell you I will not join your ¦»"" Chartist prt-judfees . ( Hisses . ) ' „ , Mr . Cleave—I am not asking you . ( Aia ° 8 - '
Mir . O'CWNELL-You c ome forward to . ° ^ j rebellion and revolution . ( Great tumult , ana ^ g I seek Reform . You talk of the C hartu » i «^ Repeal . It would be better to suffer any P " ^^) than adopt their plans of effecting « ep «*^ > ^^ In condualon . I say , Heaven preserve my c oanw ; Chartist * ( Tremendous hisses , aad cheers . ) _ ^ Mr . Cleave was loudly cheered «¦*« »» j ^ of after which the meeting br ^ ke up . A ^ ° ^ . » a Repealers escorted . ' the "Liberator of " = ^ . midst patent safety cab , which conveyed ni £ ^ iperclieers , hisses , and groans . It is saidt&at » wbarf sons were dangerously injured by ^" '• „ ,, to tarn porters , who were in attendance atthe me ei S eDtftom out vi elarmis any one who even dared to « ^ TerfW . Repeal . One young man from MaryletwnB ^^ riotisly indisposed from the savage £ »»**»* , ^ anlet experienced . The Chartists are getting up ^ mteting at the Crown an d Anchor , to *« intend inviting Dan and his myrmidon * .
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Northern Star (1837-1852), May 22, 1841, page 6, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct550/page/6/
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