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      ; ^! r ^ 7 o ^ iAIiETI OF THE DUBLEf CBABTIST ASSOCIATION . VsendiiaryaoBkeT " * J » 7 * not , ^ g ^ S i ^ -yoanelTBunart bear the load ?" vr P * A » O'Maluet , —Of course you have stood the «• shore m a ( tom > een Ut 8 " W 8 TB tiut ijLned snbroken for many aleague npon the surface 5 L vasfedsep , till par *** a * lasi . aai £ bymagie , by Mane *^ mmL jMtM it bad aes ^ terminated its race * tow »• wsveafterwave hrefcmia the same spot , parted nd dashed into foam , nose unplug ; and il rt poBdered ata like k * e happeniag to etch and ? Aitbe * We weeded , you have kept your eye L woos *• « P <*> " >* » * " •»§* & * discovered & little btaied hidden from toe tight

      * ldaeh , ts 08 * wn , Jta > i > . f , k « . m fi-red , motionless , imnovahle , t ^ JS * ^ - * eaaS ^** * * " * " **•*** " ^ TrRUl > and the -w « w *** IIke vociferous and frothy Kctton ; » . ** ' ^ p ^ ^ j ^ cn covered truth , bnt when the rage !^* MBBd awsy , ** & tbe storn *•* abated , fiction , fled JjaVstT renamed unshaken . Bach , O'Malley , has JUJs tbe state < rf lgifibed Ireland for the tot twenty __ ^ nreB upon tbe surfacebas beenkept raging ? £ j » er » yapow of « b > c « ris « truth ; tost , alas ! oiwivei ¦** beginning to break upon the immutable 0 f , rock—the tide i * receding , ud those -with : -j ^ -etf vision open the shore ue beginning to Me kttb hid bare and uncovered .

      O"MaBey , whes * ms of mind reads the history of wppft days ; the exploit * and noble deeds , the selfj ^ na sad self-resignation of a Wallace , a Bruce , a g ^ p dea , a Washington , a Harvey , aa Emmet , Kid a L -LJiold . n « ke the patriot " * cheek glow , his blood — one * ad hot , and Ids nerves become elastic must thai they 2 wd , and were ready to die , , * & fteaselTes , . nor yet for an age , but fer a prin-Mb teserve aU ages . He is but a poor philosopher -to sever seei life in death , or worse than death in Iris * He to *> better than the beast that bean bis Mds « i wbsse appetite aaa mind are one . drew

      ^ wriiit fetter I a sad , bat tree , picture of * jg » d ; let «> now , XBy frJen * , having teavelled round her « & (!' **•* review of the principles of her " patriots " it ft > 3 tfHsB faan . Let us sink all that happened v £ « "Brfaem , " *«* ec * * * ° * h ** period , andendeavour ujM & * rs « know thai fiction has spent its foam . « gT jbea , O'MaLlley , I take the one great principle jpS ^ Qje adad ef Ireland J » as to be directed , " the ¦ rfjfl ef { he Tidon , " « o 4 I ask yo « to follow me tsln and factswhich

      { gosifc s stateiBsnt of p simple , uaj kisbyeaajnneh lo ^ gerhide from the opening eye of Mzgifimo ** . 33 kwi Htttoitabborn facts mnst be ^ pmL it wOI not do to eorer them with " the wbtb lljfrEP— unbroken frm the coast of Labrader ;" Aer em &ey be ranch laager obscured by " the ^ IotMIIx , '" oe the " Hill of Howth ; " nor will the "asp fieUs , " " the rippling stnams , " or " Terdant M iiiii ~ » an « tattentiai > from them .

      % tbaibxs been mad tot tea years . Ireland is now in , j ^ d briernl , and aba begins to reason with herself ; mi vsw , CMslley , be » me npoo Um Hepe » i i ^ m yoa cw Cbaxbet ia my Ust ; it tu / oiler th » n to tagtfa Qarta , tiTB ""^ " * as it contained the Ate prinripte , UaiTenal Safiage , Annnal Parli * Mti , tsd Tote by Ballot , together witk a large gpffrt < rf detail , suh as the abolition of tithes , appUnest of magistrates by the people , bat abore all ¦ dJtefra * aQ , " duap QvremmeBt "

      5 o » , you whotaTe beard the storm rage full many kfae s&d oft , vSI remember rude Boreas whistling dTlfc - » Bd mAe « tisrongn erery ereek , easny , nook , mApefiet in . Ireland , aad how e * eh pale one rerelled k ^ t tU jowDd sorad : yoa vQl remember that the Sefealoy was wafted tbronghout the land upon each paning bretse ; shore sll , bear in mind that the motto vis— « Ko matter what a forekn Parliament felt

      ineBaed to do , or nt > matter , howeyer kindly it may be disposed tewsrds Ireland , nothing bat a domestic Iegisktsr * « aa gvrem Irebad for the benefit of Irish-Bea . - Tea win recoBeet flat the people »«• told that " jBtnaka , 9 ewEQradlsBd , sad Priaee Sdward'a lilmd bad their sepinte legtoitoies , and why should art Iretaa b » Te hersr * Ton -srill reeolleet that we vete told that" it was impossJbki for Irishmen's fcustdsk tobeasweUdone abroad as at home : ' inshort ,

      that Bepea ] was tne pasaeea for sH oar woes . Not , CrMaBefr- bearaQthat in mind : that Repeal was the jsfeerptey s » d being agreed opon the priaeiple , we sect come tofbe paefcal oesas of aeeomplishing it Here win tvo ways , then , of accomplishing Be-IU 1 , f ^ B yy hjf f ( We , independent of PazUsment ; or ij a toU afjAiB Hmse of Cammoas ; by physical xerolitkaiktteRMbee . Physifla ! force is denounced , aad by Mow ware strongly than myielt I denonnc © it from msonl , before erery moral eflbrt of which man is

      ojsato hu been tried , and persereringly tried , and hw Ued . I oenooBce it , except where right - oonspirw * tt 8 , sad makes it a moral obligation for the snp-PMta of a eottHas&m of might aad wrong . Physied ! oe » wmaeedbe tried , except for lack of noral mmogeiij maal eoynrds . X % yxie »} farce , then , Is ont cf Bit question ; aad we must next fall back spen ¦ snlforee ; that is , upon a combination of right and Jfij ^ t , jBoraDy nirsialled , aad effectually directed . Mpol forte , pomtaying wrong , "wiiQe physical energy l&oSte wrongdoers apyrehend the most eSeetire ' irf siasBtsKtions , thai wherein might and right

      can-Xo * , ttea , npos whom is this moral powatrto « i « te ? last question is at once , and satisfactorily * wred iy Mr . O'Ck > nneD s appeal f » r " peiitions , J * fe » a , petteiMta . " In isrt , there s only one point fastech it can be directed , namely , to the House of c ** t «» . What , then , follows , as & natural inference ? ^ .. Wkoonbtedly , that the petitioners are , by all Bass , ia their po-wer , to strengthen the h&ads of those frs ** bom they seek a faToorabls response ; that is , teasis friends in the Hcmse > Ummgh whose interest ^ Msoha ^ i , moral courage sad agency , the petition-H kody are to be encouraged in their work .

      A gwd debate each aes&ion , with fects brought to ¦» "pen tae justiee of Ireland ' s demaad , andrepcarted K Sw uupeiiii press , 'would gixe moral life aad moral *^ I to the metal torce applicants , in order to •^ P&a tlii » , then , the one great and all-absorbing wshwld haTB been to keep the constituent and the a Wvfc-nUtiTa mind ia perfect harmony , by adding , " •* atn debate , new conrerts ; and , upon each election , ^ "Sfflg old ofienders .

      -A 8 »; my friend , let us see if this course has been ^—^ j sad , that wa msy arriTC at a fair conclusion ¦ tn tffrom facts , you most now accompany me in a jW tear . We leare the horrid scenes which I hare "tyfcsaibed within seren miles of the " improTed " ^* ti of " improTed Ireland ; " aad we will teiTerse fll » i «^ Uad ia search of this combination of right * 4 * W in support of the Bepbai of the Union . J * l **» "we dirided vpen the question , aad had a **™ " » Minority of forty-two . Seren yean hare 2 *^* 3 ; aad 1 st n * enquire what ha * become of 2 " ™ ° *** ' * wt »* aow would be the result of a ^** > « fter thousands , and tens of thousands , and " * ¦* # thousandsof pounds baTe been paid for the tW of the m ^ gnTft »

      J ^ fiat set forth the places which returned J ™ " - ^ 1 SS 4 , which do not return Repealers now . ^« «* tije liberator ' s own door of his own country TMsIfiaaibed « t the door of hi » town bouse ia my ^« i » TB bet ia Kerry county , MuHins ; Cork county , ]*\ « ad botoaghs , —dty , Dr . Baldwin ; Mallow , ^* 5 Yo ^« l , John O'CoaneU ; Waterfotd county , r ^ p °° gsma , Jaeob ; Oare , Haenamara , Jan . ; 2 ^ " ^ y * nd boroughs , —coonty , the Bight 2 *** &BichardI * l « Shiel , { " Who u Qu traitor I ") S ** : Clomoei , Rnoyne . paBey , Cubel nd CKmnisL th * two masi HuUmJ the

      Jgp ^» teeoae Gatten and Old Sarem of 2 ^* » kbd of nnahroom-bed for growing pUee-« iptwn . jMt ttinjc of cionmai ^ toming Dr . " ?^ ILB . of Trinity College 1 My Qod ! ^ j ^ »» f ° ou ngulaily tiaoagh eTery county from lg . * ?? BB ' ** « l * tttrn . KUkeanyecmBty , l ^ autaay dty , SaHrran ; Cfeiow couaiy aad i ^ r ^ " * »« bare dreadfol , O J dreadful hsree , ) ^^• QMe aad Blaekneyj baroagh , Tigors ; ( and ' " W eSZ ! ** toeir > te * d ? jUhtoa « T » te *" * »!! * T ?*' * CdUl 6 ToT''Bni * tt- Shocking , shock-— *^

      ^» . ~ "'""' " ^ uugcounry , no-^ . VX&M county , " honert- P * 4 I ^ or ; Kadare ^ £ ^ > jttn - ' DabHa coun * J ' Rt » taon j ^ « y , BBihTto , « u ; xioafc eoBnt 3 rt Djogue ^ ^ to , *! ^ M ( * C 0 Jmty ' Mor « aB O"C « meH J "" "y . N « wry , Bady ; Armagh , Dobbin .

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      Thus ; O-ilaUey , since 1834 wehaTe lost tweniy-four , or tie biggest half of *» minority of forty-two , without one single man of tbo * s I b » Te meatioaed being »^ . placed by a Repealer j no , not one ! I don't mention myself , because 1 so fortified Cork county as to dose it against all bat Rep «* Urs $ there Roche * a Repealer and in erexy -way aa Irishman and a gentleman , has taken my place . Now , O'Malley , take the Baronets , the expectant * , the Commissioners , and all those ready to be soppedaft , fross the eigfat « en remsining of the minority of 1834 , and you may safely estimate " your itwajtti ^ oppn the next dirislon tXeigfU at the rery outside : and ftu m ihe paoo&ESSlON ofRtpeal ! ' '

      Now , O'Malley , let the whole rotten press of Ireland , the - " liberator , " aad the Corn Exchange - patriots , " answer these facts by facts , aad not with " old Comberiana , " "the <^ en , - " Berfttat Jaekaoa , " or " Mr . Litton , - or " O glory fit to Qod , and blessed be His holy name , I gained t > bloodless triumph . " Let us hare facts . Ireland is beginning to ask fsr ber whistle ; she must , at all erents , bar * a tune or two upon il Now , O'Malley , I come to another rock , one opon which I mean to dash another of fiction ' s wares to atoms . I hare shewn that , physical force being abanl

      doned , and properly abandoned , an abandonment auctioned by- Ireland ' s moral strength , that her mossl enargks wwr « aot " practically , " honestly , ttffloieatly , or indeed at all cultivated ; and that all the moonshine cry of the " patriots , " to " saTe them from Stanley , and Jackson , and Litton , and the Orangemen , '' Is sheer humbug—that , in fact , tht Tery grieTances of which they complain an the effect of causes produced by the " patriots" themselTea . H « e , then , I proceed to mnother mountain of facts j and facto which , sooner or later , must and shall be answered . Now , attend to me , O'Malley .

      In 1 & 32 , we furnished the Irish const ! taendes with a bill of particulars . We said Bepeal of the Union will giTe you a resident fostering landed proprietary , who will be spurred oa by emulation to fire you encouragement , and who will be a check upon any inclination to tyrannise , from the interest which each will have in appealing to his . conduct as his title to your suffrages . It will give you men for local administrators of the law who haTe an interest in the peace , the happiness , and the prosperity of Ireland , instead of the present race of bloodsadcerg , who make your pretended crimes a justification , for theii real iniquities . It will grre you Irish laws , made by Irishmen in Ireland , for the gOTernment of the Irish people . It will gire yoo a national stomach to consume the produce of your land , and bocks to

      ¦ we * the produce of your hands . It will make the owners of property look into taxes which they must pay , if their tenants cannot . Inshort , it will resUre Ireland frsm a state of provincial degradation to national independence . We said you an a Catholic people , and should not pay a shooting church ' s parsons , and we want to abolish tithes in nam * and nature , and to gire the amount , now paid to the said parsons , to the people to whom it belongs ; we spoke not of a scale of grievances , but we complained that the payment of a farthing was unjust , and tithes should , therefore , be abolished ia muse and nxture . We said the magistrates hare cruelly oppressed the people , and we see no remedy but in allowing the people to appoint their oth magistrates , subject to the proper tribunal for the doe execution of their office . We said

      eTery man of twenty-one years » f age is entitled to a vote , and should have it . We said Annual Parliaments , are part and parcel of the constitution , and our Irish members require but your countenance aad support , to give them strength to acquire this sad all other things to which they hereby pledge themselves . -r ^ - , * Well , O'MaDey , no man in IrelaM , ib twenty men , no thousand men in Ireland , w « kad as f worked for the accomplishment of those thing * . We jsni » mutually pledged each to the other , by a solemn toft } sad covenant . We , upen our part , said , we know yot * jfcfieriug will be great in resisting your landlords , \ ffj * V 8 t tn

      men who promise so much ; but yes have the Bfll $ » eiQW yoa , and it is for you to { Say wbet&jr o » ao th »* dT * Dta | K held oat will more counterbalance the ssfieriag * to be endured ; and ti » people , from the Land ' s End to Cape Clear , witfrone vojs ^ wswered , " we agree , we will endure all for otx . MtttDjLfpod' ° *>* familtwi , our homes , and oar altars . % mikx&miA . the " psirioU , " " and cursed be he who ftfw % UBM * -tae national colours from the Irish standard . " Tr * eB , t » -work we went , and tfce poor , but honest and egnajlBgpj ^ ople backed u »; and and I for one , blood by them £ a ~ return , and resisted every act of aggression consequent upon their oppostion to their landlords .

      Well , O'M&Uey , " patriotism' * is a fine thing to talk of ; bat , in my opiaien , there is more real devotion to country , which is patriotism , ia the poor man , who , with a wife and a house full of children , bravely risks his all for bis country ' s good ; who defies distress for rent , ejectment , persecution , and prosecution ; than there is in- the nun who makes no sacrifice , and runs no risk , but fattens and grows rich upon the misfortunes of his country . Now , O'M&lley , let us analyse the effect produced by the desertion of the people by the " patriote . " Here it is , iben ,, &U of a heap , like Brown ' s cow , and from the Mornino Chronicle , which has the following as a justification of Irish indignation against Stanley ' s Bill , while it furnishes the most 4 "m ?? "g prool ot the viilaay ef the " patriots . " The Chrottide says : —

      " In the Chronide of Tuesday last appeared & commid&cstion from otrr Dublin correspondent , in which be gare &a abstract of the returns , showing the decrease of electors , on a com ^ arispn of the register in 1835 with the register . of 1841 , which we here repeat : — Antrim 877 Leifcrim 17 Armagh .. * 901 Limerick ( Countyj 1 , 221 Bandon .. 10 Limerick ( City ) ... 1 , 128 Carlow ( Borough ) ,.. 57 Longford 130 Cavan 150 Mallow 188 Huh 883 MaVO 76 fl Clare 983 Mayo 766

      Cork . ' . 727 Meath 545 Cork ( City ) .... 873 Newry 135 Donegal 320 Queen ' s County ... 511 Down 1 , 102 Roscommen 805 Downpatrick 201 Tralee « 3 Dungannon 1 Waterford . 692 Ducgarvan 2 S 7 Waterford ( City > ... 151 : Enni « 8 Westmeetn ..,....,. 638 Ennigkillea — - 123 Wexford 1 , 173 Gslway ( Countyi ... 1 , 470 Wicklow 252 Kildare 269 : — Kilkenny iCity ) ... 77 17 , 243 King ' s County 511

      " In the counties and boroughs , not in this list , there has been some very sUgbt increasement , or the constituency , has been stationary . There are no returns from the counties of Monagtian or Dublin ; bat Mr . G rat tan , in a letter to the electors of Kildare , which appeared in the Chronicle , of Tuesday last , estimates the loss in both st 2 , 757 voters , which gives a grand total decrease of 20 , 000 for all Ireland . " Now then , O'Malley , are you satisfied ? Up to 1835 the tenants * resisted their landlords ; allowed their families to be driven from house and home , in expectation of the boons promised by the " patriot *; " but after three years of " hope deferred , " of anxious seeking and heart-burning , tney s * id , " we have had enough of bumbug ; we have done our Bbare ; we have outraged our landlords ; ten thousand have been ejected , ten thousand more , rather than appear to vote acainst

      Ireland , wont register at all ; by that means we shall save ourselves the disgrace of voting for the enemies of our religion , while our landlords will be satisfied with our neutrality . " -Now , O'JiaUey , save I or have I not folly , fairly , and justly accounted for the decrease of the Irish county eonstHo * n « ies , aad are not U » poor people fully justified * Had we gone on , year after year , adding something to our moral-force power ia the House of Commons , standing by oar every principle , and had we established our general associations for the protection of voters aad the exposure of tyraat landlord * , Ireland wobM nOW have bad an increase of 50 , 000 roten

      mow th" those registered In 18 S 6 , instead of a dei mil of 20 , 0 * 00 . They saw Lord Bnaeaanoa , 5 ir Henry ParoelL the Eon . Robert King , Mi . Leader , Mr . Wyse , and Mr . Jephsoa , with scores of others , aot up to the nook , hooted from the fenstings ; aad they aow see Lord Puaeannon , Sir Henry Parnell , and Mr . Wyse " ia the best ministry" that Irelaad ever had , and they see Mr . Jephsoa tzaasf onaed into Sir Denham Norreys , and they ask , how is this ? Now , Mr . Wyse and Mr . Jephaon are as honest as any two men in the House , aad inirtw ^ of fhii " g < 1 'g one jet of their principle * , tiny stock to them , likegenUernen , bat the '' Liberator " has melted downtft their tempersture .

      My majority in ! 832 , fox the county of Cork , was 842 . In 1886 , aj majority wxmM Iuto been above l « 0 Q , but the enemy struck , and we stopped at ( 60 of a majority : but ny majority would have been nearly double what it was three years before ; and wby ?

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      Because I stood fast by my every pledge , tested the House upon Repeal , opposed every hnmbng , and would not listen to the deceitful system of taking an instalment of tweaty-nTe shillings nnt tot twtoty shillings tithe ; because I risked my life and everything , in « P ° dng wry act ef persecution ; and , in Justice to toe landlords of the county of Cork , I wili say that there , wen fewer in that county than la any county in Ireland , though the latgest aad most aristocratic . Well , how is Cork situated bow ? Why it has lost 727 of Ita constituents , and ' J ^ of the remainder will never agais vote against their landlords j whereas , if the n ^ Mures , tor which ' they make so many sacrifices , had been honastty maiatataed in the House of Commons , Cork county would have added mote than 3 , 000 to its constituency , instead of having a decrease of

      727 . . O'Maller , my services in that county , wkleh gave the tone to Ireland , hare yet to be published . I registered the county—I roused the county and Ireland , ail Ireland , through fee county of Cork . I rode and drove thousands of miles by night and by day . I have paid eight and nine pounds a day for posting , always doing all the work myself , and galloping from town to tewn as fast as four horses could lay leg to ground . I have ridden , mile * last ajsleep- aad wet to the skin . I have slept ia-damp beds in rooms that never ware slept In before . 1 have changed my clothes at Min-etreet , and again at Macroon , on my way from Eantuck , home , fifty

      miles in a gallop . I have left home again in an hour , at midnight , to ride thirty miles more in petting rain . I have had notice from servants to quit tny service , as they could not keep up with me , although always mounted on thoroughbred herses . I have tumbled down in the hall of James Redmond Barry ' s house , fast asleep , while his butler was lighting me a candle ; and I have been in the saddle in five hours to ride seventy miles , and address three public meetings . I paid for the reporters , who reported oar proceedings at meetings , three guineas each , and then got but a ooraer . I was arrested for attending aad taking the chair at seven meetings , and refuses' to make any compromise , lest I should appear to compromise my party for ray own liberty . I prosecuted

      General Sir George Bingham for ordering the military to ride the people down ; and , as counsel for the Crown , the Crown refusing to proseente , I used my privilege of setting every Orangeman aside , till I got a f » lr jury to convict , and I did get a conviction . The "Liberator " was leading counsel , but he raa away while I was doing the work ; while the very judge who was to "try me , perhaps , aaxt , was fuming and raving for abusing ( as he called it ) the privilege of the Crown ; but I went on ; the General was convicted , and fined sixpence ! I was counsel and agitater for every one who pledged himself to Repeal . I never took one farthing from Any one . I posted fifty miles in the dead hour of night , with four horses , to conduot Mr . John O'ConneH ' s , election at Yough&lL . and made my way through drawn sabres to the hustings and returned him .

      That was the way to get an Irish constituency ; and the best proof is this , that ten millions of money would not have beaten me in the county of Cork . Let m * bat get another pull at them , and I will put them in toe same proud position once more , and humble the devils again in the dust When they do see me again , it will be with the old flag flying , with a few new demands , ef ulvalent to the times we live in , upon it ; but not one single erasure ; and they shall » eb MB again t O'Matley , I have accounted for Irish apathy and the decrease of the Irish constituencies , and now I come for one moment to a consideration of the charge of encouraging the English people to use-violence to Mr . O'Connell .

      O'Malley , as a lover of fairplay , you will hear both sides of the question . You will look on both pictures . Look then On thit tide , And on this . "I will meet you in "Of Mr . O'Connor , Dublin , London , Cork , anil his torch and dagger Belfast , Birmingham , Man- Chartists , wont let nay Chester , Newcastle , and man be heard , or bold » Glasgow , to dlirnm the meeting , but themselves ; " justice of trades defending —D . OComteti . their property ^ anio nsof " I met Feargus O'Contheir order . I will pledge nor at a meeting at Prestayself to restrain all per- ton , last week , and I had sonal feelings so strong a great mind to kick him . " against you . I will also —Some bully at Hit Com discuss with you the seve- E * dimnae .

      nl fpamoaa upon which , " You never would have yoa profess to differ from ' bees more right in your tie English Chartist * . I . life , my frlenM&sw « your Will pay all the expences ; bad -kkk « l ~ biia weU £ — you shall make all the D . OComteU . arrangements ; I merely "OJ If Feargus O'Con-Btlpulaje for free admission nor was to oome to Dublin , endmopadttW—F . OCon- the beys would treat aim ncr # tetter Pa if . ( fComtlL to a swim in the Llfley . "" Let nTtaB £ Jfc > dnuik ; Z > . O'CtttneiL *~ -- - ; -- ^ let bo man i * e * t if asy should , let biro be Instantly restrained . "—F . QCotmor't . Letter en the Lted * Meeting of 21 si Jamtarf , to which O'C < rrmeU % ta » tMptcted .

      Now , O'MaHey , loek on those twe pictures , and say who is afraid of- argument , and who is the bally ? I can only say of jay Preston friend , that be CIS good lock on his side not to have gratified hi * tncllBttlon : for , although I have never seen the hero , I would ondent&ke to thrash Mm and another or two like him . Well , again , I challenge Daniel to meet me in the very Corn Exchange , for the first place ; and there I will defend Chartism and O'Connor against humbug ¦ and O'Connell . I wDl pay my own expenses ; I -will go alone ; I ask bat free admission , and no silver tickets and kid-skin gleve " patriots . " 1 must have the blisters and frieze costs , and then I defy mortal man to beat me upon Irish ground .

      O'Msiley , I mean to make this a great day for Ireland . I have started early , and written this letter before breakfast I will write for fifteen hours to-day , all about Ireland and the Irish ; my observations may not be published just now in a book , but they will in time to come . This is mj last day , as to-morrow the Assizes close , and all hope of convoy will be gone . No man shall affect ignorance o ! Ireland after he has read my present aeries ef letters ; he shall see the very grata growing , and hear the valltM ring with the sound of Ireland ' s real grievance . I Wfll let you and the world know whether or not I understand my country and my countrymen .

      P ' AIalley , I said , from the commencement , that Repeal would find an opiate in some new-forged counterfeit . My next shall be upon the last twenty-four pounder fired from the humbug camp , as an address to the Irish people , in which the anti-Catholic prejudice of Sergeaat Jackson and Mr . Litton fa administered to the uneasy and sleepless repealer , as if it was all new , or , as if those Orangemen had told us anything that we didn't know before . Humbug , all humbug . I am , O'Malley , ' Your faithful friend and countryman , FEARGTC 7 S O'CON ¥ OR p . a I will show yon what the "lion" in his-aet can do tot his country ia ou « 4 ay . ¦•¦

      O'Malley , just take my letters to the liberal Irish papers' and ask them to publish them , even as advertisement * , and to name their owa price . I dare them—I defy them ; aye , and I will make them do it y » t , in obedience to public opinion . F . O « C .

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      TO HER MOST GRACIOUS MAJESTY THE

      QUEEN . .- . : Madam , —The next Institution ef society which we have Bald requires reorganiration , in order to iU becoming really beneficial to the community , i s the Church—a very few words respecting which will suffice to-place the , matter ia its proper light aad impertftao * It is a fact , declared by two eminent diviaer of in * Church of England ; that religion , as eonaeetoawtlb the state , i > established , not because of ita tndfc , tot because of its utility . Thus , the * , lam sat *! all ft * trouble of demonstrating the aati-aoriptoal iatont oi our National Church as to the doctrines , she fticnlMtw Warburton aad Paley have taught me that tMi to •*»•* to which I have no need to subject ttta state maefcae for the coercion of conscience . She exists on aoeotiat of her public utility , oad if she does aot answer that end . tbea she has no claim to exist at slL

      By the Church is not meant the people who belong to her communion ; these are her children , who , according to the sentiments of the Archbishop of Canterbury , is his primary charge , ' are expected to crowd , with pious affection , to the altars of their mother ; nor decs the Church mean the place * dedicated to the . performanee of the national worshlf ' . Theseare only the temples in which her public functions are performed ; the Church is , ia reality , the established priesthood , in

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      connection with those Who hate the distrlbtitWn of ecclesiastical good things , and a standing army , and a numerous and vigilant established police , to enforce , ibe claims V the said priesthood ! by the whokr some aad Christian means of coercion ; ' ead ewnpnlsion . This to really the Church of . . England as established by law . She is , fa fact , a chartered company , with your Majesty at her head , possessing a monopoly of religious wares , and punishing , when she pan do so with Impunity , all who refuse to use or purchase her inert chandtoa This is her corporate character , f . I ' beg your Majesty to bear In mind this . I am only now speaking of her in her secular capacity . I waive al ] investigation into her right to be considered , apart from ber connection with the state , as a section of the universal oh-orch » f Christ .

      Now . in thi , her state cbaneter . she is supported at the public expence , at one of the iuajUtutioMo / the country , and she is so supported on the supposition that she renders to the community certain Important services in return tor the support thus afloirided her . I am not prepared to say that she doW ; not render , spme important services . I . believe she does ; but thejWinost important ends for which every state church exists , she Is , by her unhappy organisation , almoajt Wholly prevented from accomplishing . These are , the guardian ship of public morals , and a maintenance of a spirit of good will amongst the people . As to the'fint . oftb . es

      subjects , it is notorious that , wherever her influence is the most predominant , there is theEstate ef public morals most deplorable . For a proof of this we have only to look at the Universities and at all Cathedral towns . Nor 1 « this at all a matter for surprise ftnd Wonder , when we see the manner in which the patronage is distributed . In 1831 , the total noraber of livings in England and Wales was 10 , 872 , the distribution of which was as follows : —In the gift of the King and Government , 1 , 014 ; lay Nobility and Gentry , 5 , 030 ; Bishops . 1 , 304 ; Deans and Chapters , 1 , 043 " -, Universities , 794 ; Private Ecclesiastics , 1 , 423 ; Corporations and Charitable Institutions , 197 ; Inhabitants

      68 . - - ---We all know that a vast proportion of these livings are given to the creatures of the minister of the day ; to younger sons and brotbew , who are more intent upon killing game than earing souls ; and to person who purchase them ia direct violation of the regulations of the Canons , but who are permitted to hold them notwithstanding . Can any body wonder that when the patronage is so corruptly distributed , the Churoh ' s guardianship over public morals should be only a mere name ?

      The case is just as bad if we turn to the other branch of the Church duties .- —That of promoting good will among the people . Alas , she is much more likely , in her present form , to stir up strife and contention . Here sending a conscientious Dissenter to prison , and there refusing the rites of burial , not to a person unbaptised , but to some infant whose parents had chosen to have it initiated into the Christian fold , according to the forms of their own communion . One day driving off a poor widow ' s COW , and leaving her son in his blood , for daring to defend it : and the next engaged with a refractory farmer , who had neglected to pay due reverence to bis spiritual guide . Truly , the sooner your Majesty begins to exercise your powers as head of the Church , the better . If something is not done to reform the Church , in a few years we shall not have a Church to reform .

      Lastly . —The constitution of Parliament must be entirely reorganized , or peace and contentment can never surround your throne . The very notion of representation is Inconsistent with thepresent constitution of the House of Commons ; Mer can genuine liberty be secured until such changes as the altered" awf improved state of the public mind clearly indicate $ O ) be necessary , be effected in the constitution oi tt&Mnfe 07 Lords . Only think of men in the ninetee ^^^^ BfjtiT being deemed and declared competent : W Idgjkme . for . a , great empire , solely on the ground l&sj ^^ r ^ aehers did so before them . If the nons ^ nB ^ T ^^ vinich 'lire tajret ^ tajfy fl 0 U 89 of Legislators Is snpportxjd . 'ha ^ Been applied to the

      business aad operations of common life , we should have been now dressed in the skins of beasts , and living on acorns and roots in the woods . All has been progressing bat the science of Government ; that has stood still , or If moving a * . , ail , ii has been in a direction directly opposite . to the real interest and well-being of the /^ nation . Depend upon it , Madam , the House of Lords must be brought lnl » 4 l * a ^ » r » 3 c ^ fw 1 th ^ orrby and by , an intuited people wili ' iirnf 3 ^ BSe ? r moral majesty , sod , tathe face or their power , 'the House of Lords will cease to exist as a legislative ajaj * nb ) y . . Bat defective as the cooatitution d ? the Upper Benssi .-unimesiionsbly la , it ia perfection itself when compared with tSat "Which plaims to- be the people's x * pr # eentaflves . Even the very forms of the fi ' onse are

      at variance with common 8 aus « ,. and wool « La « J » be eadored a month by a really free people . Just , for example , look at the fact that the men who pretend to have their power conferred by the people , refuse to receive a notification of the people ' s wishes except In the shape of a petition couched in the most abject terms , if it be upon a particular subject , and concluding with a promise which they well know the petitioners never intend to keep . Then , again , the petition may be presented ; they are not always received , and still less attended to , while measures of the most grinding oppression , and on -which the public disapprobation has been unequivocably fexpreeaed , are passed with the most prjtroking coolness ; and the hard earnings of the people are voted to maintain a system calculated to undermine the very framework of society , and to destroy every vestige of liberty , except in name .

      The same atrocious system of mi&rule pervades every department of the state , and is especially observable in the appointment of Magistrates and other Executive offioers , and in the powers entrusted to the Lords Lieutenant of counties . The former are men having generally no sympathy with the people , no knowledge of the law which they are appointed to administer , and an utter recklessness as to the conseqneaces of the acts they may feel disposed to perpetrate ; and the latter , instead of being compelled to convene public meetings . When called upon to do so by a given number of the inhabitants , can refuse to do so when the object is one which it suits their views of interest , or of prejudice , to

      refuse ; and thus to stifle , in a considerable degree , the legitimate expression of the popular voice , in matters of paramount public interest . These , and they are but a few among the multitude that might be adduced , are some ot the instances which prove beyond reasonable question , that these most important of our social institutions need a searching and practical reform , and that reform we must and shall obtain . The people mast be fully and fairly represented , or it will be seen at no distant day that further forbearance ib impossible ; and consequences will follow , of a nature and extent that is -oatte but of the power of huiua * prudence to calculate or foresee .

      Thus , Madam , have I taken & concise view of su « h preliminary matters as seemed essential to be known , m order to the clear understanding of our subject . ' We have inquired into the various duties devolving upon the Government , and have examined them at considerable length . We have seen the vast importance to all ranks and classes of such a system of criminal jurisprudence as- shall - tend at once to prevent the commission of crime-, and-promote the reformation of the criminal population . , We shall now proceed to examine whether , and how . Car , the present system of prism discipline , as existing in this country , is calculated to promote , hinder , or prevent the realisation of these important objects . . ¦ ¦/ ' ¦ '

      I am , Madam * . Yoraa Majesty ' s feitbfol and obedient , - ' ¦ ¦ ' subject and servant , ' ¦ ¦ ¦ ' ¦ ' - ¦ ¦' - ¦ ¦ ¦ : '• / ¦ : ¦ ¦ ¦ - ¦ " . NUMA . London , March 3 rd . 18 « . .

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      . , - -: ~ - . ^ s » t - " - ^ -- — .- — " THE . LEAGUE" ARGUMENT . MR . Editor , —If anything further is wanted to prove that the professed advocates for a repeal of the ( tornLaws area set , of dishonest and vile hypocrite ttie following ftotb will settle that question . ' I attended a public meeting on Monday evening , at Deptford , In Kent , for the purpose of meeting the great sophist of the day , Mr , B . Smith . I found that gentleman at work amongst a room full of middle men , with a few exceptions , endeavouring , as usual , to make them believe that the working classes were ao completely dead to their own lBterest , that they allow themaelvea to be duped by a set of fellows , called Chartists , who were paid bj those who were opposed to the repeal of the Corn Laws . That barefaced falsehood compelled me to break sUeace , andask if , at the close ; of Mr . Siaith ' sremarks , I might be allowed to correct some statements made by that gentleman , which were at variance with truth . Instead of receiving an answer , there was

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      * general cry of these middle men , " turn him oat ;" ai counter : cry of a few fustian jacket men was " hear him j" which ended in those men being expelled by force , an * myself threatened to soon follow ; but they , . finding that I was not to be intimldaUd , ¦ allowed me to remain . As soon at order war restored , ' the liberal Sydney Smith stated that he would no % answer any questions which Mr . Neesom might ask , and he felt it hi * duty to inform the meeting who thai gentleman was , ia order that they- might be < m their guard . Mr . Neesom was the person'Who wu miialy lastrumentel la upsetting the Autf-PoorLaw meeting at the Crown and Anchor ; the other day , by tekiiig the chair and putting m amendment favourable to Us Views ; "and iurther , he had been one Of the foremost to attend similar meetings , and so strong was the dpposrUon of that indi > vldual , along with others , to Ks < Mh Smith's ) views , that ™« ijr had comptetely destroyed Ms attempts to get for'tlie poor a cheapiloat : that they ebnia not hold a ¦ teetinf , in any part' of London without the certain

      defeat Of Oie&r objects . But the yortft « m Sfar newspaper was the ' most to blame , 4 s It gave weekly reports Of - those meetings , and the proprietor , F . O'Connor , a man whom be as much despised as he did Mr . Neesoin , applauded the doings of those men . ' He beg ^ ea to inform the tneetrag , that it was the intenflon or-tfiose with whom he had the honowr to act , to use the strong arm of the law in tatnre ; therefore' it Is necieasary f <» the London * Chartists t » look onfc As Mr . Smith is » reader of the Stdr ,: I be ^ f 60 inform hini that I fesj * not his threat *; Dludgeon men or sabres will not intimidate me fronj doing ray doty In exposing the vile cheat , and where ever Mr . Sydney 8 mltb . is , there am I also . Allow me , Mr Editor , to say , I am aa advocate for free discussion ' , and 1 o hot ' appi ^ ve of noise and clamour instead of argument s but after what passed last night , we may expect knock-down arguments from those caating knaves , the Own Law-Repealers . Asfaras Lendon is concerned , the League is dead without the hope of a resurrection . : '¦ ' " " •¦•¦' ¦ ¦ . ' '¦ ¦ ¦¦ I '¦ ••'

      My next business in this afulr trill be , to preach Mr . Smith ' s funeral sermon , of which I shall give public notice . ¦ ¦• ¦¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ : ' ¦• ; Should you be able to find a place for the insertion of the above in your forthcoming Star , you will oblige , ¦ ' ¦ - ¦ - ¦ ¦ Sir , ¦ ¦ ¦ . ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦' ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ' - ¦ Yours very respectfully , O . H . Neesom . 76 , Hare-street , Bethnal Green . ; ' V . 8 . —I may just add , in reference te Mr . O'Connor's wish , for another Convention , &C , I am most ready to do all in my power t 6 forward his views .

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      REL 1 GIQU 8 FREEDOM (?) TO THE BDITOB Of THE HOBTHKBH STAB . Sib , —Oa Sunday , tbe isth instant , a written bill was posted on the Joint Stock Shop window , to the following effect : — " A sermon will be preached on behalf of John Clayion's family , whose death was caused by Whig persecution in Northallerton gael , at five o ' clock this afternoon . " The religious churchwarden gave orders to Ward , the policeman , to pull It down , which he did . It was then written en with chalk , when the aforesaid' , worthy eame and rubbed it off . The room Is not licensed , nor the parson who was going to preach—so there was no sermon . The above is a strong proof of O'Brien ' s statement in his last letter . People would become religious , but the tyrants will not allow it . . ¦ ¦ ¦"¦' . - ' ¦ ¦ ' ¦ ¦•¦• ..

      Good heavens ! we have come to a pretty pass . We are denied our political rights ;—also our religious rights . A man cannot now teach the doctrines of truth , love , and justice , without being licensed . In haste , Tour ' s , in the cause of freedom , John Davisoj * . Stockton , 16 th March , 1841 . ' ? '

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      MBS . CLAYTON . * O TUB BDITOB OF TUB KORTHJEBK STAR . Sir , —As your valuable paper has ever been the medium through which the rights of all , without exception , have been fairly advocated , but especially the working classes , I feel it to be ray imperative duty to thank yon for the interest you have taken In my personal welfare , under my unprecedented affliction , I mean the loss of my husband , who died in the cause of Chartism , and for that prompt attention you have paid to communications from different parts of the couatiy . Though he was a poor man , and of few abilities , compared with others , had he been a rich man—a Collins or a Lovett—yoa could not have showa greater

      marks of respeet , or have spoken of him In terras more affecting , or have been more ready to assist hi * helpless wife and children . Other friends have followed your example , and lent me their pecuniary aid , to enable me to gain an honest livelihood , that I may not be left to the mercy « f oppressors , or tbe frowns of tyrants . I sincerely thank all persons wh * have used their influence in the cause of the fatherless and widow , and should any Chartist friends grant me their support , I trust they will be satisfied that the same is not misapplied , as it is my intention to acknowledge all sums received by me , be they ever so small , through the medium of your paper .

      Sir , I take this opportunity of most gratefully acknowledging the sums already received from the following places : — ¦ 7 v . ¦ .. ' . ¦ .- ~ ¦ ¦ ¦« : ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ . d . Manchester ^ icifm Fund .... u .... 2 0 0 ' Members of the Christian Church , Blr' minghain ...................... is a Bath Female Radical Association oil i , Marylebone and Paddington Victim Cflinmittee .......... 2 o o Sir , by inserting ^ 8 ese few Hoes in -your paper of Saturday next , with the sums above named , you will greatly oblige , "' -.. " . ' TJ < ¦ ' "" Yours respectfully , . ^ -. t . Sarah CtAYiON . N . B . A ! l communications addressed to Mrs . Clayton , No . 87 , Porter-street , Sheffield , will be promptly attended to . ¦ " ; : ¦ •• ., Shefaeld , March , 16 th , 1841 .

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      HOUSE OF LORDS , Friday , March 19 . Petitions for the total abolition of church patronage were presented : in favour of the Corn Xaws , from Cork and other places in Ireland ; and in favour o . Church Extension . . The E « l of Aberdeen presented a petition from Newfoundland , similar in many respects to one which he had brought under the consideration Of the House in 1839 . The petition set forth that It was the most distracted and unhappy colony under the dominion of GreAtSritain , and that of late its condition had become much worse . Its greatest « vil » had arisen from an abuse of the constitution granted to it in 1831-2 , and the House of Assembly was at present constituted in such a manner that it was impossible it could discharge its legislative functions "With advantage to the colony . The Detf tioners prayed for parliamentary inquiry .

      The Marquis of Normanby said , in the early part of the session the governor- had stated to the House of Assembly that the matter was under the consideration of the Government at home , ' but the Noble Earl appeared to have overlooked that point . An amendment of the election laws bad also been recommended by the governor , and in the event of their refusing to < lo so , he bad stated his intention to suspend the issuing of writs until he hod received the instructions of the Government at home , tinder these circumstances , he hoped the Noble Earl would not press the subject further at present .

      Mr . Nicholas , the resident Irish Poor Law Commissioner , was then called to the bar and examined . He admitted that great irregularities had taken place , but he could not Well account for them . He also bore testimony'to the high character of Mr . Stanley for Integrity and veracity . After a lengthened examination , the witness was ordered to withdraw , and their Lordships adjourned till Monday .

      Mondayt March 22 . Mr . Phelan was examined at great length relative to theretuma from the Poor I « aw Union of Clonmel . Mr . Pedder , an attorney , > erfdlDff in Clonmel , was also examined , after which H was resolved that Mr . Hall , from the Office of the Poor Law Commissioners , should be ordered to attend at the bar on Friday next , aad Mr . Hawley ( one of the Assistant Poor Commissioners ) on Monday .

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      HOUSE OF COMMONS , Friday , March ] 9 . On the motion of Lord John Ri / ssk&z ., the House went inte committee- oil the grant from the Consolidated Fund to the South Aastralian Company . Sir W . molesworth did not think the grant went far enough to meet the justioe of the ease ; it appeared to him that the debt due by the Commissioners to the Emigration Fand , amounting to £ 68 , 000 , ought to be included in the present vote , or a supplemental one ought to be taken to that amount ¦ The Chancellor ot the Excheqdbr explained that the present vote was not ar final settlement of the matter ; it was merely to provide for tbe repayment of billi adMneed upon the faith ot tbe colony , and from which parties were now suffering under very great bMonvenlence &nd dimcnlty . : The resolution to appropriate a com . ef £ l 55 , » 00 from the Consslidated Fund , by way of loa » , was then agreed to . ' ¦;¦ ' . ' - ^ ¦ ' .- . ¦ . ¦ . - .= "• . ¦ ¦ •¦ . ¦ - - ¦

      Oa the motlfta for going into Committee on the Poor Law Continnance Bill , ¦ - ; Mr . Waelby moved an instrnctton to the Committee to divide the BUI Into two part * Be proposed to separate the dauses relating to the- law itself , from the elaase * relating to the continnance « f the Commission ; and thus , he said , he gave an opportunity to those who wished to render . the measure permanent without prolonging the Commission beyond the five years . Mr . Wakley indulged in a denunciation of the cruelty Of the law as It is at present ^« Jniiniste « ed . He told a story of a child who tad died while , its mother was ia the Workhouse j it 4 wd been taken from her to be weaned , and died of convulsions ; . its death was concealed from the mother ,: until she heard it accidentally ; she ran after the body to tbe burialground , and there the first thing that she beard was that it could not be taken into the church , because it was supposed to have dled ^ of the smallpox . Be warned

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      the landed aristocracy that this law would endanger their seats ; and he pronounced the House—the Reformed , he could not call it the amended House of Commons—that could sanction such a measure , worse than the Old Boroaghmongering House of Common * . ¦ Lord J . HvasBii had listened fa vain for any argument in support of the Hon . Gentleman's motion . They bad been favoured with a dissertation on the Reform Bill , and he recollected , when that measure was before the House , it was alleged by some that if the right of returning members was conferred upon the metropolitan dlstrictff , tiiey would have sent into that House men who ought never to have been there—nils *

      chievous demagogues , having no regard for the real interest * of the people , and who , if they happened to be lawyers , and sat ia courts of justice , wonld tarn them into arena * for political diacuaaion , and perveit the powers conferred on them to their own purpose ( Cheers andlanghter . ) With reBpeetto the child alluded to by Mr . Wakley , Lord John had been , told that ik was kept from the mother in order that excitemeafc might not aggravate its malady ; but ' the coflcealmen of its death was exceedingly blameable . Lord Jena reasserted the principle , that a Poor Law is meant te provide simply for destitution . r - ' Mr . Fielden opposed the bilL

      i LohiQ . SOMER 3 ET objected to the BUI being divided iato two parts ,-although he was strongly opposed « o several of Its clauses . : ; - Colonel SiBTHoarff expressed hU determination to give the measure hU most strenubus opposition . Sir H . Vbhkky believed that since it had come Into operation the wages of the labourers bad been increased , and that the general feeling of the country was in Its favour . After some farther discussion Mr Wakley withdrew hlsamendmenfc . Mr . T . Parker Qjcn moved , as aa amendment , that the Bill be committed tiat day six months . The Hon . Member referred t * returns of the amount of poorrates levied In various" agricultural and manufacturing districts , iu order , to show that of late years they had considerably . increased , and that , therefore , the argument upon which the supporters of the Bill mainly rested , viz . that it would effect a considerable saving In the amount of poor rates , was of no value . > Mr . Gbjmsditch seconded the amoadinent

      After some further discussion , the House divided , when there appeared , . for going Into committee , 247 ; for the amendment , 61 . The House then went into committee . Lord J . Russell , in answer to Col . Sibthorpe , stated that 16 was his intention to propose that the number ot assistant commissioners be reduced to twelve . Mr . B . Wood moved that the number of assistant commissioners be reduced to five , and after the 3 lst of December , 1843 , that no asalfltant commissioners decontinue in offlse . The Hon . Member ultimately withdrew , his amendment , but Col . Sibthorpe insisted on dividing tha committee on the amendment , when there appeared—for the amendment 46 ; against it , 191 . On the motion of Mr . W . Attwood , the Caainnaa reported progress , and asked leave to sit again Adjourned at a quarter past twelve o ' clock / Monday , March 22 . .

      Lord J . Russell in reply to a question from Sir K . Peel , said he should proceed with the early clauses of tbe Poor Law Amendment Bill that eveoing , in erder to give an opportunity for discussing the various amendment * , of which notice had been given . He should then propose to resume tke committee on Friday and Monday next , after which he intended going on with it dedie in diem . ¦ ¦ On the motion for resolving into Committee , on the Poor Law Amendment Bill , Mr . h . Hinde said he hoped there was no intention to hurry the . Bill through the House befese Easter . Lord J . RUSSELL said there was no such lateatlon . He thought , however , that in Committee , long inter * vals between each sitting were detrimental . 8 irE . SueofcN hoped that some clause would be introduced to enable married couples to live together in workhouses . The separation of man and wife created a strong feeling against the Poor Law .

      Colonel Wood said that , in the Stainea Union aged couples were not separated , but were allowed a room to themselves , with afire in it , where they might li v comfortably . Mr . Wakley quoted a correspondence respecting the Uxbridge Union , where the Board « f Gaardiaas had refused to sick paupers the diet ordered for them by the medical attendant . In gaols the medical offices * had always absolute pow * in this respect . Mr . Darby said that under the Old Poor Law tbe order of the medical attendant must be confirmed . If the articles ordered were withheld there was an appeal to a magistrate , and so there was BtilL

      Lord Howick said that no Board of Guardians would refuse to attend to the orders of a medical attendant without strong and just grounds . It might happen that a man professing a medical education might also possess an anxiety to acquire a low and despicable popularity , and might be capable of abasing a trust reposed in him . If the Beard of Guardlans Buspected a medical officer of wi attempt to set aside the regular system of relief they would be quite right to set aside bis orders . He could scarcely credit it to be a fact , so discreditable to the gentlemen of England , as that a Board of . Guardians would refuse articles really necessary when ordered by a medical mail . .. Some dfetUMlon followed ; ! tt the course of wfiich ,

      General Johnson said that it -was 'With great pain he had heard what had fallen from Lord John Russell oa Friday night , . Mr . ( Jbotk : contended for the propriety of a cheok , on the part of tbe Guardians , over the medical attendant , because , e&ierwise , the whole Controul of the Union would rest Y ^ th tKe latter functionary . fiTr . ' E ^ StSope . ^ contended that th e re was am ple security agahw * a » y improper interfereoce on the part « f the medical officer , who might be discharged by the Guardians ; but it was not right that he shonld belimited in wb ^ t to ttaMagbtRrnper to order . . Mr . W . AttVOOB > aI 6 V the lives ^ of the patrp © r « oould not be ooaaldered safe If the medical attendant was not to be entrusted with aay discretion aa to their diet ' . v \ . . ' ¦ ' ¦ *•—; - " ¦ " ; ¦ ¦ ¦•¦ ¦ ' ' ' ¦ After some further discussion , in the course of which some warm observations passed between Mr . Ward and Mr . W . Attwood , the House resolved itself into Committee .

      Lord John Russell moved the first clause , fixing the period for which the Poor Law CanuniBsion should exist . Mr . Easthope thought five yeara too long a period for the prolongation of the commission , and moved , as aa amendment , that it should extend only until i ? 43 . .. ¦ ' " . ' ¦ . ; - Mr . GROTS was of opinion that the perio * should not be shorter than five years . He denied that the powers ef the commissioners were arbitrary , although they certainly were large , because , the important duties they had to perform required that they should be so . . ; Mr . Wakley said the Hon . Member for London had not advanced a single reason why it was necessary to renew tbe commission for five years .

      Mr . HA . WE 9 said he had known the workhouses under the old law , and he had a good deal of experience of union workhouses , an * he solemnly declared that under the old system many of the wer&houses -were as tad as gaols , in which treatment was experienced by the paupers trhioh might jnstly be called torture ,- asd yet Hon . Members now sought to destroy the only system which had ever grappled with the enormous evils of the old law . He denied that the present system could be fairly designated harsh or oppressive in its operation , and said he was willing to share all the unpopularity which , might be incurred by the Hon . Member for the city of London , for defending this bill . liaving neither wish nor desire to sit in that House upon such popularity as might be acquired by opposingthis bill .

      Mr . T . DUNGOMBE . said the question really at issue was , the extinction of the Commlssien , or its perpetuity * and contended that the law could be better administered without a Central Board , by leaving its provisions to be carried out by the boards , of Guardians throughout the country . The Hon . Member then quoted instances of great cruelty which had -been perpetrated in Union Workhouses , and asserted that under the Old lawnoBuch oages had ever ««« urred . : Mr . DARBY supported the amendment . Mr . Hamilton contended that the Poor Law Bill had failed in one of ita main objects , that of raising wages . On the contrary ; it might easily be shown that its effect had been to reduce them . He admitted thai nothing could be worse than the old system , but it did not follow from that , that they should " go the whole hog" with this measure , and have " the BUI , the whole Bill , and nothing but the BUI . " He thought it might be necessary to continue the Commission , but he Sbeoid vote for its continuance for the shorter period .

      Sir G . Strick . la . nd would also vote for the Bhorte ? period , and was of opinion that , unless some material changes were made , the present system could not continue , to be tbe permanent law of the land . Mr . Villibrs supported the clause . Mr . W . Attwood supported the shorter , period , ia ; order to give a more frequent power of revfsioa to the . H « use of Commons . It was «»| d that this w »» doneindirecUy . because in the astimatM tbe question might .: be brought annaally under eonideration ; bat if so ,. there could snrely be no ohjeo ^ aa to . -Uo that dt *; rector wWch was not deemed injudicious when < km » : indirectly . ¦ ¦ . ' . ¦ / ¦¦ . ' ., ' . ¦ . ( .:- ; .. ' .. V ¦ ¦ ¦ - _ . : i Mr . MCNXZ thought it might be as well , ia aeoerd-. f ancewi » h the principle of voting the ontinaanee < dt this commission ft * five yean , to similarly vote the > Mutiny Bill and the esfimetes lot five years . On . a dlvisloa , the amendment wae negatived by » - majorityoflM to 136 . / ¦

      ... ; . .. Celpnel Sjbtborp said he should take the sense of the House upon tbe reduction of the salaries of the Commissioners , from £ 2 > 000 a year to i ! l , 000 » and their travelling expenses from three guineas to one guinea a day , which he thought quite enough to keep them in " good working condition . " He should also move to induce the salaries of the assiaUat-eomiaisaioners from £ 700 a year to £ 300 a year . On tbe motien that the clause should stand part of the BUI , Mr . J . Fieldbn moved that it be expunged . The committee again divided , and the amendment was negatived by a majority of 183 to 49 . The clause . was then agreed to , the chairman reported progress , and obtained leave to sit again .

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    • Northern Star (1837-1852), March 27, 1841, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct542/page/7/