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  HULL . EXPEDIENCY QUESTION-IMPORTANT D 1 SCUSS 1 OK , i jsaeUsf iras hfrlden in the Freemason " * Hill , on vnodsT evamnglaffc , pursuant to pTOTiouaarrsagement , rSraai Means- Bams and Wendell , to the djjeuasion jJnL Question of the adviaeableness , or otfadfcriae , of Se * orSiB * d * 5968 gelding any part of their demand Jar the entire Charter , for the oondlUMng and ecaring SI co-open *** of Hie middle classes . Mr . Samuel g ^ fj- * a * ealted to the chair .
  
  Tte chais ** stated the subject of the diBeussion 10 the meeting * together iritti his own opinion , that the JL gticn btaag one of importance , -would be more Sc * L to be fully argued , if other disputants should be 7 * rtixig& to the arena , than if the eonfcrpversr should C ^^ ned to the two individuals between whom it vIa been originally arranged . After some conversation m this etifr *** ^ " **¦ a 1 ™?*! that each speaker Should be * & >** & fifteen minutes ; and that , after a li a s-aibte time had been given to Messrs . Burns and ^^ jaB , the discusson should be opened to other
  
  ** 5 & . BCBJS , in opening the discussion , observed that jg ^ bess hitherto a kind of passive ageni ia tha x gjgsess . He would premiss some explanatory remarks ftr the prevention of niii&pprehenaion or miErepresentagon ; bs Sii so because he had been often abased jfijt ' trat eemF *** S" ^ yri ' TeI 7 indifferent either to praise or eensnre , while occupied in the search after « iai he believed to be troth ; but lrhen statements -grtmide , which ^ ere calculated to impede the de-• elo paaent , and prevent the eliciting of truth , he jb ondit bis duty to the cause required that he should geek " to set himself right , and hence he felt compellad to notice a statement which had been made by hit present opponent . Mr . Worsdell , and which waa alcalated to place him in an unfair position in the tseseni diwsssi ^ at the Ttry outset . It bad been be tne besas as
  
  ^ id that attended . demonstration 3 Househ old Suffrage delegate : this assertion he utterly Bd use qaiToeaUy denied . He had gone there in no such ^ jjj ^ ter . ( Hear . ) There was another falsehood jptWi in tha Hortbtr * Star , -winch he must notice : K had been stated that be had -nftjkM" ! the Asso-. j y rianf HO * M > 4 BW 4 ^ wBn ^^ Bm ^ xBcq ^ SfuO 2 ] bot before th'T 1 ' for discussion , was not the question m ex- * e . iisi : fy- The discussion arose oat of circtinistanc&s fgeacxBt nvan a meeting hrfden there about a month . v , iir . Barnsi "was as that meeving speaking ol Qte rff issKion suffrage of ilr . Hume , which he affirmed to bs only another name for Umeisil Sufjjjjj , a » sear it as might be . It was an instalment d ~ lU i » *** P 011 ? ^ ' aD ( i k * would tike it gladly as
  
  l kls m = * a > of otUrning the other two . Ibis had j > eei : assented from by Mr . Worsdell , who in terra pteti jjtjj viih a cry of " >» ~ o , no , no , " to -which he responded , * Yes , jts , yts ; " * and the result -was the arrangemeuta f& tie present meeting . That was the point in dispute , infi be thoolii not suffer himself to be K . 1 iway from it Ths qnestion was , whether they should accept the Ijsateett of ISs . in the pound upon the fail amount jne : it Tri 3 not a question of expediency : it was not j ^ eesfion of whether they shoul d go over to the Wh " gs ^ Thc ther tiey should succumb to the middle cl asses : fcci whether Uweie not wise to accept the ISs . ; and la hJDed they would not be led airsy / roa it by any BEseas « l words about " Universal Suffrage , and no « ra : i « - " "What were they required to Bnrrenuer ?
  
  Tflst did the " no surrender" mean ? Was it not jfceined they were sJ » Tes , that they were serfs ; that 5 feey ^ ere feusibled to the middle class , -who -were in jaEty their task-mssters ; and -H-onld tLey no : surjBiia their serfships ? Would th * y net surrender § gir ^ JTery ? Was their miserable condition so dear to 2 sm , that they were determined to adhere to it 6 r Ua cr ta-eniy years longer , because they had a p iqes Ejiinst certain perticcs of soeiety , to "svhom they bd oftsi heard the terms ' ¦ scouadrels" and " shopcesfy" sppi : ed ? And inu ? t thty , therefore , for ft-sr jf being led away by the mi-idle classes , detennir . e t » rrjtct * ie l ? s . without ar . y prospect of getting the lessiaiue two ? He truste i they -would exercise mere
  
  Ssrfttioa : he hoped they wouJd cot be misled by eetsis interested parties , who continually laboured to fee ? cp a direct hostility between class and class , bejTKa Efigtbour asd neighbe-ur , aid to cp ^ s = the jrsospts c ? Ciristisnity by ucehnritabls uenunciations . Be E ^ itaiued ihat if they were duly E = nsible of their ^ fship , srd if th- ^ y had the offer of the assistance of Bother class ^ r ' lzo tad the power to m&ke the laws , Kid Trha Trocid ciT « them ¦ aithln t-wo shillings of the faB saicE ) : cf their dsman . 1 , that they ousht te be raj t ^ 'Jtfcl to tha ? class for helping tbe : n to get it Ed they not perceire what must be tLe efft-ct of £ T ^ iuM sjaoEfs : ther ^ selTS ? D 1 th-, -y not know ¦ fe at ta » micd ' e cljses tos now tiitir masters ? Had
  
  fcej not ' ¦ ¦ oeii pi 3 Te-a to bs so ? Where wtre ail the Estits tr . v Wrre proaisrd to them from Chartism ? Ihe Crsrter vss to hare been the law of the land l on ^ before this . Where was the determination of purpose at the -working classes ? When the Manifesto of the ConTeEtlOT hi ^ been issued , requiring evidence of their KEaty to bars the Charter , in their abstinence from « raiB highly taxed articles of Juxury , did they comply Tiihthsse reqTiirltioni of the ConTention ? Nut they , Indeed . Where was ill the Tspourfng abetst physics ; feee ? Where were the physical fcrcs Chartists of Btfl , fhsr : a su : gle soldier , strolling to the iodging-s he lad been hSieteJ tc , frlghteted away half the meeting < t Doet Green ? < HeTe -w ^ s a tremendous burst of dis icprob&ti-Tz—nussy Toices eryisg " False , ft' . se ; " " It ' s Jiie , " is . As sooa as the excitement celled , that he
  
  CEid be allowed toga on , Mr . B . eonticced . ! HegSTe 6 k r ^ rj a he hid heard a . He -wouia not Toach for & secasry , bat had ye : r « a « a to KUcTe it true . Memsg "ssin to the irar cry of " UDiT = rsil Suffrage , » d no crrrendeT , " he asked of what use -vrould be Uiraal S ^ ffnsge , had they it alone ? Without Tote ITBsHot . tcey-rere better without UaiTersal Suffrage en with it He had seen the " No surrender " Sffage in operation ; ho bad seen the " Su sarrendsr - B&izs at Preston , where , exfepting Hunt , they had kts seat anything but a Tory into the House . He raanbend bow Mr . Cobbett hid be-n treated by the 5 o sarrecier" Suftige men of Coventry ; and , if »* plac s were to be taina as samples of the worka ? v ^ the " . V o surrender" principle , he would say that £ ta Esh rjse it was s-orreacere . i Mr . Bnm'i time
  
  wsov np . EEd fc . WosiDrLL rose to reply . He was but a young pcfiSdifc , and pKtende ^ BritLer to the information » tn : te tiUs ; of his ocpcu&nt ; but hs had yet no ^ f « toe resul t of this cUiuss ' . on . Truth was < E £ 7 zi ii $ t . znd needed no : the extrinsic aid of f > p 5 Ke to anke i : acceptable : it -was enough that it Rn > AeB plainly , simply , and from the heart . He »« Jrf a hi ^ -h d-pee of iinp . jrtaDce , if net to this •? " ? ' * * ° - ^ -sp ^ taua engaged before it , to the pe : ? ies into w ; Jch they were to examine , and which EtD-raj t v tappjjjggj of R - "| i 3 OCS . > jr . Burns had ^ Kt TtTJ KrcaS ) T that Tnivrrsal Saffrage alone ^ te acpro ; lnctiTe of be neficial effects ; they did J * * tniversal Soarage aloseand do one ought to
  
  , ^ teo » a that bette r thin Mr . Bums . They so ught wtae fni ; Ke _ , i of ^^^^ contaiiied in , and set forth fcvh ? rir : ci - ples ° ' the Charter ; 3 nd the question ' * neta <_ r they should surrender any one particle of «* Th-y s- > u ; lit for Universal Suffrage , Annual -f ^^ , Tutb fey Ballot , Equal Representation—^ 7 mn ' g pergon to be st once his title deed as a £ ~ ^ ^ QUi liEcaaon & 3 a representatiTe—and for r ^ T ^ : -- of all pablie serran ^ ; tliat the public as ^ Z *? 3 *** ^ -Sht rightly tx ^ rcise ths just power of ^^\ , c- -t cece ^ ary of dismissal . Mr . Bums had ~** th * t Hie questica before them was a question of St v ^ ^ " ' ^ d ^^ ed it for himself , hut contended £ " * . " * * ¦ " 3 TE 5 in hU -wiole soeedi iiad made it . and
  
  Z 7 :. " ' Q-:= iUon of expediency . Wii 3 t was hi 3 ^ f - ns : i '; n ; ei ! t of l ? s . ia the pound ? Were £ f ^ asncv r ; t or ^^ > . _ n&t r ] ght ? - ^^ g « S ^ sI "" f Ck 5 rt ' ' r toe principles of justice , jjj l—^ p ' * therein ask more thin equity accorded ? i S **^ V'OTe 1 F 0 I ^ d be no question on this point U ? 4 ^ T ^ - Surna would admit as readily as bim-T ^^^ -P ^ were ectiurU to the whole Charter , ^ 3 !^ w Lee sake of keeping up fne metaphor , he ^^ 1 ' -he whole 20 s . If , then , the whole 20 s . was it ^^ 'Ssa iJiey trere caUed upon to accept IDs . ll ^ d . ^ « M cr , 1 Iaa : a Eufcititution of expedifcney for rte ci&s mizht b = thus illuicrated : —A debtor k ^ ff & 10 , asd if he had reason to belieTe , that —¦ ¦ £ j iqbi flscouiaaoc tne
  
  ^ i ^ j . , ; •* -= nuesuca psy jj - « uiiebt then be inclined to make a virtue of ^ 7 aari take what he coul d c * t What man ^ t- ^ S ^ L ^ 6 oS * r ° ' aa instilmeiit , knowing it to ^ h » iri ^ H'P 0 Terty bnt from depravi ty of principle , S ^ « ™ 5 in his hands the power of compelling payfoi aTl ttle ^ ^ lor ? Were the Goreranient able to fcafrL ° of ^^ C 5 Mitr y * amouBt of their WT ^ j " ^ ere they able to avoid it , if the people ^ Pwsist in their demands ? And if so , why fej jff ? «» nfent tbjtmselves with Mr . Burns ' slSs . in i ^^ s . the whole stnn being equaUy within their WwjV . " erfore would withhold his support , and *^* l £ * f"end « before him would withhold their * 7 « ki eitifcr iIr " Home , or CoL Tbompwm , or ^*^ n » n , -vrfao offered to them any point « f ^ fe ^ Wt of ^^ contained in the Charter ; be was J agp fe » nole hog" for UniTersal Suffraga Mr . *^ es tkf Cpon the des i » oloDe « of a union be-^ «« middle and working classes ; ho had no »» a ^* W tbat HDJrtn Tt ^ rt-riAaA i * « . «•« «« t ^ iT ^** ^
  
  , **¦ V ??^ ° ^^ "Working classes . The working ^ » wty oaJ ? foT * ™ ^ ght ; i ( the middle * If *„ ! , aaine ^ iah ., let them come to us * sd join ii 6 s $ fT t * J " , 1101 tbe Tr * rkin « classes , at all events , ^ 4 ?!^*^™ " ** & «> y movement based upon ***? £% tt 0 « of r ight Mr . Burns had C ?"" P ° »« ° f the middle classes , to make ^ Jlfefc . * Kas 0 B why they should be conciliated , >^^ ° ^ i soa «^ t fot b ? vaa miUions . It £ Po » fcTxLrt poweT to m ^« the laws ; how had ^ SatSif H ^ 6110 « a «^« sd , and what warranty *?» < i ^ t v *****> tQI ™ 7 reaamtiAe expec ^ e t 5 aa > , * orkin 8 classes , as the issue oi S ^ s iod Z ^» » J" * tTce ? Td what point o < ^*^ QirJ ^ ClSa l eT : s ^ on Bioul d their atten-^ * hslcw ^? *? , Date them fall so far in Iotb with ^ J Hiaon J \ 5 1 «^ ttTe power , as to sacrifice to their l ^ t ? ^ w , ? ' ^ " * > acknowledged principles ^ 5 a V tt " ! " *? ^^ ^ yew Poor 3 Law as a - > - « careless wiUi which the middle
  
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  classes legislated for the benefit of the wovking classes and as a reason why they should be xe * lon » ly supported in their morements by the working classes ? A /^ r some further observations oh the Poor Laws , Mr . Tfr ' oradell concluded by expressing his hope and confidence that the people would peraeTero in their demand f « Wi-Terail Suffrage , and that we shonld , ere lonf , behcrfd a junction with them not only of the middle classes , but of all classes , far the attainment of the fiTe poinU of the Charter , and every other point necessary- for ' personal , social , and political freedom .
  
  Mr . Burns rose to reply . He fully colnrf 3 ed with the last remark of Ms opponent ; he , with him , was earnestly desirous to see a junction of all clastes for the five points , and any other point that should point to political freedom . He protested , howerer , against the corert manner in which Mr . Worsdell had sought to identify him with the Kew Poor Law . He was tolerably quick at the perception of these manoeuvres and insinuations , and he should expose them as he went on . He begged the meeting , therefore , to note that be would not suffer himself to be coupled , by Mr . Worsdell or anybody else , -with the coaoocters and supporters of that law . His reprobation of that lair -was not lew strong than that of Mr . Worsdell or toy other matt . What he would like to do with all the advocates of the Poor Law was this : he would have a Lvge JBastil * built for them , and keep them thera upon Po « r Law diet for seven years . It was really amusing to hear people talk of their anxiety lot the co-op « atl < m of
  
  OMi ^ mKiaifVr toe securing or that co-operation . It was like * beggar being invited by a man -with % good coat to sit down wiih him in more comfortable circumstances , and replying , "No , 1 won't ; if you -want my company , come over to me . I won't come an inch to you . " It was preposterous ; it was ridiculous . OuJy imagine the working classes seeking to ameliorate their condition , cocfessedly in a siate of almost indescribable wretchedness and misery , the middle classes offering them ISs . in the pound , and they refusing it Only see the poor rag ^ etl fello-vT running away from tbe man in a , gcod coat , who offered hiai money , and saying ¦ " No , no , no , I wont have ii- " Here the meeting , which had been getting exceedingly impatient for a Wag t ! : u < s , interrupted tbe speaker with hisses , and various exclamations , at almost every sentence , and became perfectly uproarious and determined to hoar him no longer . The Cuaihman rose , and for sometime vainly insisted on a hearing for Mr . Burus . He reproved the meeting in atrocg terms for their disorderly conduct , reminding tuem that thty had a person on Uiat platform who rtpresenUxi their sentiments -who -would reply on tfceir behalf . Order was , in some degree , restored , by a person in the body of the meeting mounting s form , and requtst-: ng permission to ask a question . He bad come there ¦ vrith the expectation of receiving some information , bat he had been disappointed . When he was told that the propriety of conceding something to the middle
  
  classes , for securing their co-cperatlon was to be discussed , he expected to iiave learned that some disposition had been manifested by the middle classts to co-opvrite ; but as yet " neither of the speakers had given them any evidence that there was any real disposition . He thought it quke time enough to consider the propriety of acceding to the conditions of the midtile classes , when the middle classes were disposed to offer conditions to them . He wbhed to ask , therefore , if the middje classes , as a body , had made any proposals of concession , or shown any disposition to cooperate with the working classes , f . r as yet he hid not Itorned that such Wis the fact .
  
  Mr . BCRNS thought tbe question a very proper one , ar . d had that gentleman been present amonth ago , when tbe discussion vras arranged for , he would have learned something upon that subject : he would have heard hiiu Mr . Burns > giTin ? a description of Mr . Hunt's Registration Suffrage scheme , which provided for tha enjoying of the elective franchise by every resident of a dwelling-house , or any p ^ rt of a dwelling-house , qualified only by some thnw cr s . x months' residence , and which , in h ! . 3 Mr . Burns ') opinion , amonnted so nearly to Universal Suffrage , thit he thought it would be madness to refuse it This was what tie had denominated the instalment of ISs . in the pound , and what we secured ¦ would makithe other 2 s . easy to be obtained .
  
  The speaker in the crowd retorted that this was altogether beside the mark ; the question was not what Mr . Hume , as an individual , might be disposed to do . Was there any evidence that > lr . Hume had tbe sanction of the middle classt 3 for this 18 s . instalment , or that he bft . d their support in it ? If there was , he had cot yet laarned ii ,- Cfity were not there to deliberate about the movements of Mr . Hume , or of Daniel O'Connell , . or of Frx Stacsfeld , but of the middle classes , and he hoped the speakers would keep that clearly in Tisw , and not delude the mfctting by Tepiesenting tint as the measure of the middle classes which was only the measure of these individuals . ( Applause . ) ilr . Burns , somewhat excited , appealed to the Chairman . He would be obliged , to that gentleman to sit down till othtr people had done . Then , if tbe » eeting wished for him , they would send for him . tGreat uproar . )
  
  Mr . WGBSDELL ihonght that as the arrangement had been com * to that other speakers sh » uld have the opportunity of expressing their opinions , the meeting ought net < to interrupt ilr . Burns . He in treated them to allow him to make his own statements , and if hs ( Mr . Worsdell ! should be unabie to reply to them , then tome other person might supply his deficiencies . The uproar having « ubaide * i , Mr . iSL'fiSS continued . He had always thought the objects of the Chartists to be the amelioration 0 / the condition—the assuagement of the sufferings—and the elevation , socially and politically , of the working classes generally , but he had not yet heard from his opponent , cor had he been abla to learn from others , how it was t } bd r . one . His opponent weuld not accept the
  
  instalment : he would have nothing to do with the 183 ; nay , so rigorous and nice was be in his demands , that he would not even take 19 s . ll ^ d . This was au uncompromising spirit , and he thought it an unwise and impolitic one . Taey were unable to make laws without the' raiddle classes , lur tha middle classes bad the power of law making ; and without their assistance how did they propose to get the whole of their demands ? Were they aware of the condition of thousands upon tbou « ands of their fellow sufferers ? If they would read Richardson ' s Black Bo « k , they would learn oi thousands in a state of suffering perfectly indescribable , without half a sufficiency of food , almost in a condition of nudity , -without a bed to lie upon , and utterly destitute Det only of the luxuries , but of most of the absolute nec < ssaries of life . ( Deep sensation in the metting . ) And would they , with this
  
  catalogue of suffering before them , and with pretensions to humanity or feeling , refuse to accept any means by which the couaiuon of thosa might be ameliorated ? Ongh . ' . thej not to be thankful to the middle classes , or to any Other classes , who would help them to lift these ont of this horrible slough of misery » ( Great excitement and much uneasiness in the meetinj . Various exclamations of "False , false , " " qnestion , question , * " ieep to the point , " " what better would they ba for Household Suffrage ? " ice . ) Mr . Burns continued , amidst much uneasiness , to say , th 3 t with such a picture before them , he hoped the people would not be suca fouls as to be lei away by those who raised the cry of opposition to the middle classes , and who would meet their proffers of assistance with " We'il never came to' you : come to us . " It was absurd . Here again the meeting broke into confusion , in the midst of which .
  
  Mr . Bcb > 'S exclaimed that he had ever understood that , in a discussion , people should hear both sides ; and as he had learned that . a great portion of the Hull Caaitists had become teetotallers , for wkich he heartily thanked them , be did expect them t * have come to this raetting with clear beads ; but he was rsfeher pleased than otherwise in behalf of his principles for this confusion . Better evidence ef thfcir truth could not have been afforded to him , than the fact , that those to whom they were unpalatable would not hear them . Mr . Burns here set down . Tbe Chai&mas must correct the impression likely to be produced by Mr . Burns's last remarks . As a member and officer of the Hull Chartist Temperance Society , personally knowing all its members , he would undertake to say , that no interruption had been offered to Mr Burns by any member of that Society . ( Much applauseirf which Mr . Burns joined )
  
  , Mr . Wobsdelx . was sorry that his opponent had been so much interrupted , and would be glad that the meeting should afford him longer time to make up for tie interruption . He liked fair play : he had no desire to monopolise the meeting ; and as he had no fears for tbe force of Mr . Bums ' s argument , he wished him to be heard . He would wish both to be heard , and heard fairly . Mr . Burns had given him litUe to repjy to . He had represented him as rigid in his exactions as refusing 18 s . and even I ** Hjd . as an instalment : he wasrigid and unflinching . Why should he not be bo , ^ king no more than right ? He was desirous to guard of tbe tall pnnciple
  
  tie peoplfl against yielding anything of right Enjoying the Iranchiw UnnU , he to 1 desirous to extend it to evtry man , and he felt confident that if they permitted the inser tion of the cloven foot a- all by anydeviation from the fulness and entirety of their demand , they would be made the victims 1 of duplicity . The question simply was , whether they would have the five points , or be content f ^ J ^ - ( Much applause , manifesting an ^ f ^ f 0 * ^^ STa ^ SS ^ SS S ; « Stion * l , and supported that law . ( Cnesof
  
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  " Aye , aye , "— " BroVni fawtf Joseph , "— " Joey Hume , " fee . ) Whatever mi £ ht be Raid of Mr . Bunu ' a Registration Suffrage , it »* a still Household Suffrage . The rote was still to be had because ef the boose , Mid not because of tbe mark It % HU > bad on principle , and it could , by Mr . Burns ' * own statement , be only received by the people on t £ * principle of expediency . Besides which , there waa so expectation , nor coald he suppose Mr . J . Hum * bad &n 7 expectation of its passing ia the extensive form , ^ p ° ^ ° ' by Sir . Barns . It would doubtlea be mntila < £ d > &"d nude
  
  quite a different thing . Mr . JBttas had alluded Tory feelingly to tbe sufferings of many of tbeu' fellow-aubjects . Poverty and suffering might , as a gi ^ eralrule , be traced to bad legislation , and he believed that if Mr . Burns would consult the sufferers tbbinbel « .. " « » & **<> tbe most likely mode » f alleviating their distress ^" > bo would find their opinion to be vary decidedly exprtV ^ in favour ot tha suffrage being vested in their o ^ hands , rather than in asy mode of extension short t tbe full recognition of their rights . ( Great applause , amidrt whitu Mr . Worsdeil s » t dewa . )
  
  Mr Burns rose , apparently to reply . He said he mm * again begin with setting right misrepresentations . Tbere -was no difference in principle between him and tbe ctdetest advocate of " Universal Suffrage and , no surrender . " Ho held tbe suffrage to be every man ' s right , and his person his title-deed . The only ques ^ on tu , How yrei » they to get it ? y&eCiUlBMAM here reminded the meeting of their JUffjlllnation , ia tbe early portion of the meeting , that
  
  the whole discussion should not be occupied by Mr . Burns and Mr . Worsdell—that these gentlemen should first state their sentiments , and tlwt , then , the discussion would fee open to other parties . Those gentlemen had now spoken each of them twice , and ho would put it to the meeting whether they should go on , or whether any person , desirous of speaking on the question , should now have an opportunity . Tne question being put to the vote , the meeting decided that the discussion , 60 far aa coucerned Messrs . Burns and Worsdell , should now close , if other speakers would take it up . The C'UAIRHAN stated that as Mr . Worsdell had been the last speaker , the meeting was now open to any speaker who might choose to take Jlr . Burus ' s side of the argument . Having waited some time , and no speaker on that side having presented himself ,
  
  Mr . WEBSTtB came forward . Knowing that other gentlemen were ia the room , who held siatilar opinions wiUa Mi . Burns , he would rather that some one of those should follow Mr . Worsdell than himself . He was sorry 10 find their courage st a discount , but Could not help it Ha expected the meeting to hold fast by the principle of " Universal Suffrage aaU no surrender ; " and said he should have some difficulty in recognising as Chartists persons who held buck tlielr adhesion from the National Charter Association , the only associated body having for its object the attainment of the five
  
  points . He illustrated his position by reference to tbe associated body of Odd Fellows , who required all parties pursuing the same objects to conform to their rults , or disclaimed association with them . He gave Mr . Bums credit fur wit , talent , and information , but he doubled his principle . As to tiio middle classes , they hail always shewn themselves hitherto to be the enemies of the people ; and -whenever they ak'ht manifest a dii-puMtion to co-operate with the people , tha people were reauy to -co-operate with them . Mr . Burns—Upon what terms ^
  
  Tue Speaker— ( in reply )—Lpon our own terms . We ask nothing more than is right , and of course will take nothing less . They woulu not accept the co-operation of the middle classes , for anything &h » rt of the whole Charter . Mr . Burns—( in reply )—was at a loss to know in what school the last speaker had learned his notions of right . He seemed to consider the right of defaming and depreciating the character of others , on account of supposed motives , to be exc . * edii : gly valuable to Chartists . Mr . Barns had not hitherto understood this to be a Charti&t principle- If it was , be was not so far a Chartitt . ( Some interruption , in which the term pox" was applied to Mr . Barns . )
  
  Mr . Bukss— My friend there calls out "Fox . " I am afraid I must call out " Goose" iu return . Tbe doctrine of tbe last speaker would bo that of denunciation against all , the calibre of whose understanding was not of precisely the same bore . ( Interruptions . ) This was not the doctrine or practice of the j-rofesaion of Christianity at the outset . In the establishment of that great measure , which was to work a change in the morals , and comfort , and happiness of all mankind , the principle of expediency was a valuable principle . The New Testament would show them how it was acted upon by Paul , and his coadjutors in the same great work , but we were now wise above what was written . We trcre now to stand upon trifles , and denounce as devoid of principle every man who dared to differ from us : such proceedings were preposterous , and he would tell them that uutii they learned to govern themselves by reason , and not by the impulses of passion , they were unfit for the exer « ise of power .
  
  Mr . Worspell , having misunderstood some of Mr . Burns's remarks , aa being personal tu himself , rose to reply . Mr . Bckks explained , after which Mr . Wojisdell proposed that Mr . Hill , being present , should be requested by the meeting to address them . This was instantly seconded , and carried by vociferous acclamation . Mr . Hill briefly addressed the meeting , stating that he apprehended his sentiments upon this subject to be bo well known by every person present , that his verbal enunciation of them was altogether unnecessary . The working classes of this country had the beacon light of experience for their guidance ; they had tasted the
  
  sweets an *' , felt the benefits of class legislation for a long series of years . For a long time the cry was , that the direct powtr acd indirect influence of the " upper " classes , negatived all the principles of justice , and destroyed the comforts of the poor . The Kefonn Bill transferred , or , at all events , extended the power to the middle classes . Hid the conditiuii of the poor been improved thereby ? Was their serfdom less certain , or their slaveiy less galling , under middle class , than under " upper" class domination ? Wa * tbe condition of those wjaose fcuflVriugs bail been so vividly pourtrayed «* effre them , more likely to be effectually relieved by pLcing the power of legislation in their own hands , or in the ba ^ tto of others , with the promise that it ehouid be exercised for their benetit ? Had they yet to be of
  
  foun ^ middle class promises deserving their coufidei . ee ? He pointed to experience for the answer , aud tbe answer would be " no . " Reasoning , then , from that which is past to that which is to come , they would treat warily tbe parties by -whom they had been heretofore deceived , nor leave the high roacl of principle and righl to founder in the bogs of expediency after any meteor li ^ ht by whomsoever holden . Even supposing Mr . Hume ' 8 Registration Bill , which lie admitted to be a very large extension of the Suffrage , to be honestly intended , and honeBtly prostcuted ; supposing it to have , which it wonld not have , tbe support ot the middle classes generally ' ; was it in the power of the middle classes to secure its enaction without such a concentration of the force of public opinion , embodied in and expressed by the people severally , as ehouid be abundantly sufficient to carry not merely that but any other measure they might choote . The very fact of the
  
  mititile cla » sea betting the co-operation of the working classes prove 1 that this was so . Why , then , should ther palter with instalments , when tbe same power which -was necessary for enforcing tbe instalment , was able to enforce the full payment of the debt ? To do so wouid be tantamount to an admission that their demands had been unrighteous and that slavery was their natural and proper portion . If so they thought , so let tkem act ; but if they deemed themselves rueu let them demand the rights of men , aud yield nothing of the fuiltst recognition of those rigata If the middie-classes chose to give a portion of tue right , or chose to ask for an extension of tne Suffrage , so let them ; but let them do it of and by themselves , —while the people kept right on , the marl : of freedom fully in view , swerving neither to th « right band nor to the left , but pressing on to its entire accomplishment Mr . Hill was loudly cheered on rising and on retiring .
  
  Mr . Thomas Wilde presented bimaelf and attempted to address the meeting . There isemed , bowever , but little disposition to hear him . He was assailed by many opprobrious epithetsand personal allusions , during the whole of the few minutes be spoke . He said he had been a Chartist in principle ever since 1816 . He admitted every thing contained in the Poopie ' s Charter , and he had been waiting to nigiit to hear the development of some plan by which they might get it . He had nut heard such a plan ; he felt quite cure that without the co-operation of the middle-classes he should not live to see tbe Charter obtained . He concluded by proposing to the meeting the following reiolution : —
  
  " That it i * tbe opinion of this meeting that % union between the middle and working classes is indispensibly necessary , to obtain a Parliament that will do justice to the masses , and this meeting pledges itself to use every effort to induce the present constituency to return such Members to Parliament , aa will make the People ' * Charter the law of the land . " Mr . Walker seconded the resolution in a Bhert speech-Me . Webster moved an amendment to the effect , that the middle classes have been always known as the enemies of the working classes ; that it was useless to seek , uny union wit * them ; and that the meeting
  
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  «»» CAITHNESS . —The glorious cause progresses heie beyond the expectations of its most sanguine advocates , Mr . ii . Al'Bcaa has delivered , in ail , twenty-c-eveu lectures on the principles of Chartism . He id now about to proceed 011 a mission to tho Highlands and Scottish isles , to preach the truths of Chartism 10 the mouutumeers in their native language . JEDBURCH . — A soiree has been lately holden here in honour of Dr . M'Douall . Delegates from Ha wick and Kelso were in attendance . About three hundred persons were present , and the proceedings were higkly gratifying . KEN DAL . —Dr . M'Douall lectured here ou the 26 th ult . with good etfect . A Chartist Temperance Society was formed the same night . SHEFFIELD . —At the usual weekly meeting , an address to FeaxguB O'Connor was agreed upon , PLTMOUTH . —An enthusiastic meeting has been held here against the Poor Law ; spirited resolutions were passed , and excellent speeches made .
  
  OOSEBUKN . —Mr . Mason lectured here on Sunday morning to * crowded audience md with great eliect . After the lecture Mi \ biuclair Baid , that iu accordance with the request of Air . LoWery , ne came there to give all the publicity he could to a note sent to the Newcastle Council , last Tuesday evening . U was then resolved , that tho business of tbe Council on Tuesday , and of the Discussing Club , on the 2 nd and 3 rd insc . be postponed to Thursday , the 4 th , to leave the members at liberty to attend to tho attack upon their principles and organ , by Mr . Lowery . Au amendment was proposed , but could find no seconder . It was then resolved unanimously , " That the members of this AsBooiaiion place the most implicit confidence in the Northern Slar , and that they are determined to defend it against all its a ^ ailautd , so . long as ii continues to advocate the people ' s cause , as it has done hitherto . "
  
  BARNSI . EY . —The Chartists met as usual at Peter Htey's , when the usual business was being gone through , and the merits of the new movements in favour of the Charter descanted upon . The following resolutions were agreed to : — . Resolved , '• Thai we , thj members of the National Charter Association of Great Britain , do fully concur with the amendments made in the general rules of the said association , by the delegates assembled at Manchester , on tbe 20 th ult . We , therefore , pledge ourselves to use our utmost efforts to carry tue said rules into effeot . Resolved , That a public meeting
  
  be holden in Barnsloy to petition parliament to memorialize her Majesty for the liberation of Messrs . Asuton , Hoey , and Crabtree , and all other imprisoned Chartists . " A committee was appointed to carry this resolution into effect . Trade is still getting worse , and unfortunately we are losing the very best members of our society , and all going to the New World . The ' pithy reply of one who is going , and with whom we conversed was , "if be once cleared the British channel the union jack should never wave orer his bead , unless it was when taken a prisoner fighting against tyrannical laws . "
  
  LIVERPOOL—The Chartists ot thia town held a publio meeting in the Large Room , Preston-street , to petition the House of Commons on behalf of Frost , Williams , and Jones , O'Connor , O'Brien , aud all the incarcerated victims of Whig tyranny , and the immediate dB&miBsal of Ministers , on Wednesday evening , the 24 th ult . ; Mr . Roberta in the chair . Mr . Bernard M'Cartney , in a speeoh of powerful effect , moved the following resolution : — " Tkat we , the Chartists of Liverpool , are , and ever have keen , of opinion that Frost , Williams , and Jones were illegally expatriated from their natrta land ; and that we pledge ourselves to continue our exertions until they are restored to the bosoms , of their bereaved » nd sorrowing families ; and we are
  
  further of opinion , that her MajestyV present Ministers , having violated every pledge made to the people , and having exhibited a utter iaop&city in the governing of the country , ne deem them worthy of dismissal from office . " Seconded by Mr . John Robinson , and carried nenu con . Mr . William Jones , in a speeoh replete with sound and energetic argument , moved the petition , whioh was somewhat the same ia spirit and substance as those adopted on like occasions . Seconded by Mr . Thos . Askwath , and carried unanimously . Moved by Mr . W . J . Magee , seconded by Mr . David Farquharson : — " That tho petition be entrusted to T . S . Duncombe , Esq ., for presentation . " Carried . The petition has since beea signed by the C&ainnaii , aad transmitted to Mr . Dcncointo .
  
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  BURNXJ 3 V . — On Thursday evening , February 26 th , ¦ Mr . Lenny , oiK of the persecuted Chartists , delivered a lecture in the Chartists' Room , New Town , Burnley , to a eroded audience , on the principles of the Charter , the deprivations of the different martyrs ia . the ' . cause , ' a . id" the fallacy , of the Household Suffrage question , . which caused a great impression on the minds of the . members then present . Although an hour bad oi / 'y to elapse for calling a meeting , a crowded audie ^ ce was assem bled ; such is tne spirit of Chartism " * this town . The Chairman , Mr . Henry Clegg , a yo . S man of promising talents , rose and substantiated the necessity of following the advice of Mr . Leany , fv > r the obtaining of the people ' s Charter .
  
  XttACCM 3 SPIEIil > .-T ] ie Char « 8 ts of ibis town are beginning to bestir themselves ; they ha ye taken a large and commodious building , and intend joining the National Charter Association . They had a very numerous meeting on Sunday evening last , when an afldress was delivered on " The ia £ portance of acquiring sound political knowledge . " ihe members Boemed to be reanimated , and hiahly pleased . isrOTTINGHAM . —The Chartists met here as usual , at the bouse of Mr . Gibson , King George © a Horseback , Gregory's Buildings , ou Monday last . A library has been formed , and . every other exertion made to carry ob the agitation with effjek Public Meeting—At a public meetine held list
  
  night , in the Chartist Chapel , Rice Place , B&rker date , the following resolutions were unanimously agreed to : —?' ¦ That it ia the opinion of this meeting , that the conduct of the noble-minded Editor of the Northern Slar , and its noble proprietor have ever merited our unqualified confidence and approbation , and that the " same bo forwarded to the Northern Star for insertion , together with the rules now agreed to for the government of this association which are as follows :-lst . That this association , meet in this chapel every Monday night , at seven o ' clock , at which time a chairman shall be chosen . 2 nd . Any person being elected on tho council ^ or to any other office in iliia association , shall be in future by balloi , aud any person not signifying his
  
  acceptance ol office within fourteen days of his election , or having accepted office , shaH neglect to attend for fourteen days , thftoounoil shill declare the office vacant , and call a meeting within- ten days to fill up the vacancy . 3 rd . Minutes shall be taken of all proceedings of the association by the Secretary , and be read at the next meeting for approval . 4 th . No collections shall be allowed for any person unksb notice shall have been given to the council previous , and recuived their consent ,, and saeh collection be tuen disposed of in such manner for tie benefit of such person as the council shall see fit . & . h . A general warning , in at least seven days before the election of the council , or the election of a delegate , shall bo given as far &s practicable . "
  
  POMTYPOOI .. —A petition on behalf of Frost , Williams , and Jones , has been got up by tho inhabitants of Pontypool ; and is in course of signature at the following places : —Mr . Thomas Parry , Cranestreet , Mrs . Shellard , George-street , Sir . John Godwin , and Mr . Richard Lewis , shoemakers , High-street , Mr . Thomas Charles Barber , Cranestreet , PoutypooJ , Mr . Jordan , shoemaker , Frosnauc , Mr . Hinder Taylor , High-street , Poutypool , Mr . Watkins , Aberrychan , shoemaker . It is earnestly requested that such of the inhabitants of Pontypooi and the vicinity as have not signed the petition will come forward , and sign forthwith . The petition has already got about 2 , 000 signatures . Tits- committee anticipate double that number .
  
  HAWICK — At a public meeting ,, held in the Subscription Rooms , tm Saturday , last , it was resolved 10 petition Parliament on behalf of the Wolsh manyrd , and all political prisoners . After the busiuesa of the meeting was over , Df . M'Douall addressed tho meeting on " the rights of labour * for nearly two hours . On the following Monday , the Dr . lectured on " tho wrongs of labour , " to a numerous and attentive audienca . BRADFORD . — At the usual weekly meeting , holdeu in the Chapel , Long-croft place , afcer thy routine business , a letter was read from Mr . Martin stating he would be in Bradlord on the Llth March . The following resolutions were moved , seconded , and unanimously carried . First , " That a public meeting be held on the 15 tb inst ., to adopt memorials on
  
  behalf of Feargus O'Connor , E ; q ., and ilr . Robert Peddie . " Second , " That a tea party aud ball be held the same evening , in honour of Messrs . Martin aud Holdsworth . " Third , " That a conaiaiitee of nine per 60 na be appointed to make all necessary arrangements . " Fourth , " That the tickets lor the tea party and ball be limited to four hundred . " Fifth , " That a conmiitieu ot lour persons be chosen from the council to draw up a plan similar to tboso of the religious sects , for local agitation . " Sixth , " That one hundred aud fifty tracts , What is a Chartist ? and one hundred and fifty of Vincent ' s Temperance Address bo sent for , to be distributed gratis . They may be had at the couacil meetings . " Seventh , "That this meeting be adjourned to Saturday evening i . ext , to commence precisely at eight o'clock . "
  
  Temperance . —The cause of temperance is progressing rapidily in this town . A Chartist Temperance Society has been established , which holds its weekly . meeting * on Wednesday evening ? , at the house of Mr , Ellis , opposite L ) ead-iane-xop , Goodmansend . Public Meeting , Tea . Party , and Ball . —The Committed appointed for making all necessary ari-angetueuta for the public nieoiiug , tea-party , and ball , met on Sunday last , at tho Temperance House of Mr , Ellis , Goodmau&end . After- some business of minor importance had been transacted , tbe following resolutions were moved , seconded , and carried — 1 st . " That the public meeting be held in the open space of grouud in fiout of tho Odd Fellows' Hall , on Monday , the 15 th instant , tho chair to be taken precisely at half-past twelve o ' ciock at noon . " 2 nd . " That the tea-party and ball be held in the Social
  
  Institution , tea to be on tho laole at half-pas ! : six o'clock . " 3 rd . " That a full and efficient quadrille band be engaged , for the purpo 33 of playing at the ball . " 4 th . ;" That Mr . Tatteraall , from Colne , be written for to attend and take pare at the meeting , and deliver a short address after tea . " 5 th . * ' That the tickets be ono shilling each , and be given into the hands of the following individuals for disposal : — Mr . C . Wilkinson , news-agent , Tyrrell-street ; Mr . George Ellis , Goodmansend ; Mr . Hodgson , Qtn-enstreet ; Mr . Burnett , 13 , Reform-street ; Mr . Hopper , Hope-street ; Mrs . Smith , Thompsoiv ' s Houses ; Mr . Goldsborough , Goodmaneend ; Mr- Edwards , New Leeds ; Mr . Kiley , White Abbey ; Mr . Alderson , ? danninghara ; Mr . Turner , Lidzet Green ; Mr . Hird , Bowling Back-lane ; Mr . Burrows , Horton ; Mr . Smith , VVappiug ; and Mr- Creff , Kingstreet . " ¦
  
  Manningiiam . —Chartism continues to inerease in this spirited iittle village The Association meet once a week for the transaction of business , and tho enrolment of members . They have formed a Chartist Co-operative Establishment , and which is in a flourishiug condition . The opponents of the miscalled Poor Law Amendment Act held a publio meeting on Monday evening Jast » to adopt a petition , to be presented to the House oi Commons against the motion of Little Finality John * HANLEY ( Potteries ) . —Mr . Wm . Deaa Taylor delivered a lecture hex e to a numerous audience of working meo , with a sprinkling of the middle class . The lectures of this gentleman are of a talented kind , and do credit to tho Birmingham friends who have made choice of him ; in short * Mr . Taylor pro - mises to become a popular lecturer , and already bis lectures have made very great impressions ou the minds of the men of the Potteries .
  
  WORCESTER . —A Chartist Bali was held , last Monday evening , in the large room , Pheasant-court , New-street , which was attended by upwards of 30 couple . The evening ' s amusements were interspersed with patriotic Bongs , recitations , & . & . The company broke up highly delighted with the . evening ' s entertainment . XJEICE 3 TER . —The Mayor ( in answer t » tb » roqnisition mentioned , in the last number ) has granted the use of the Guildhall for next Honday night , the 8 tu taut-We hope to b&ve a rattling demonstration for setting our beloved O'Connor free ! We have lately got up a little weekly publication ,, of . the unstamped clas » , called " The Midland Counties Ulurainator , " in which the principles of Chartisia are boldly and broadly advocated . Several of the Whigliflg&aad Whig-Radical * are eagerly inquiring after it ; and Uiex © ia no doubt but that it
  
  -will be highly seiYiceable to Q&r cause . Vincent 11 expected awPD g oa in the coarse of soother fortnight ; and after ths deliver ; ° his addresses , it is intended to keep up th « excitement by a weekly lecture ,, for which , "we believe , we can furnish speakers and » &terial » amongst ourselves . We ara confidently lookisg to the meeting tu the liberation of O'Connor , as tiie commencement of a fresh era o £ activity . When -we have succeeded in arousing tha town , by that mealing , to a state of earnest attention towards Chartism , we do not intend to let the excitement flag . It xs » y be safely affirmed , that these are not mere «? words of wind ;** a strong under current of feeling Baa existed among Chartists i » Leicester , for some time , relative to . the necessity of making a Beries of etferg ^ tfo and sustained efforts ; and it is seldom that such a sttts of mind , on the part of aborty of reflecting mea »« Dds in nothing . —C '« rr « .
  
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  < fc ^ . ¦ .. j&eLot LONDON . —The Sunday meeting tcf the Working Man ' s Chapel , Dock K * ' * ^ . : " - « " »» last Monday evSai ^ crowded * V £ ? fi £$ i eongreg » uOBjr WUeii two discourses were delivered from these words , The spirit of the Lord is upon me , because be hsih sent me to heal tbejbroken hewted , to preach deliverance to the captives , to eet at liberty them thit are bruised , and open the prison to them ibat were bouud . " Also ou the duW of
  
  mutual distribution from these words , " Admdniihj , ^* one another * ' ' * ^¦ wer Hamlets . —Atthe weekly meeting holden at the . j £ * fcklay . er ' B Arms , Cheshire street , Waterloo Town * i 7 * « J »«» J P reeD i * h ® 23 rd « l ? -i * b . « sum , of 3 . 3 . 4 d . * was V ^ ea / or «»<> assistance of the delegate . On tht 28 tb , a di& ? us 3 ion took place on the best means of securing universal happiness . The subject was well handleu bj Mr . TiiomaS Spencer and other speakers . The dj ^ cassion was adjouraeu until next Sunday evening .
  
  SHEFFIELD . —Chartism is steadiiy progressing here . A committee has been chosen to conduct , aa far as may be necessary , the operations fwf seonriujj the recall of Frost , Williams , and Jones * Mania is to have a triumphant eatry into Sheffield . OLDHAO T .. —Sunday lectures are regularly delivered in the Chartist Room , Greaves-street , and the attendance is , generally speaking , most encouraging to the labourers in tne cause of benevolence and
  
  truth . -Much of the good seed , thos sown , we hope to behold bringing forth abundantly hereafter . The ooal miners of this district havfr begun to set mean about the work of politics in earnest . A lecto ^ jm recently delivered to them by Mr . Davis , of Oldham , at the conclusion of which many enrolled their names as members of the National Charter Association , and expressed an earnest wish thai their example ehoold be followed by their brother miners throughout the kingdom .
  
  CHES 2 EEFXS&& ANB BRAfln ? TOSI—Mr . Skevingtoa ^ of LougbkoJ-ongn , paid the Ciarjitts of these places » visit on his rettwn from the Manchester Delegate Meeting , « Thursday last , and in the evening , severul of the" Council h » d au in terview with him , when he gave & very inserting account « £ sis mission , and ur « ed dp * a his hirers fl ) ptrStvtftti iajh ^ ir aata Uoc ^ for aojtbattg . sho r ^ ei theKriaciplea . vQwlwlHWX h » » oA $ jt WypI ^ Ts ^ GTMBcvCr ^^^ nui ^^ cvw ^ ioJLKLCi this country prosperous asd happy . A vote of thanks was given t » the worcfey geuiienaan , who aoctwwle'iged ( be sa-sae , and the company broke up , highly entertained with the erfnivg ' a dieenfision . AafHTOW-UKaEB-LVtiS . —TLe Frost , WiUtams , and Jones '* Committee have called in the petition-sheets , and these are six kioa ' gautf signatures attached- thereto . There is also about M oi . of a balauee ,, after . paying ail' expeuctd , vvhieu they intend to forward to the Central C « aaiineo of Birminghaaj .. They have forwarded a * memorial to the Birminghtua Committee wt > ma weeks since . Tho JNatioJiiil O'iiafter Association ia geUiug ou sapully here ; there is an addition of axtf&ben almost every weekr ^ akhough , taking into consideration the number ol professing HdaicaAa oi Uus- town and neighbourhcod , tho associatiou is far beic-w what it oui ; lit to be .
  
  SUTXON-M * -ASHFIEI . 1 > . —Some tsm * ago , the cryer \ rent romd to anuouuc * ihat a v&tiiiou -waa lying for signatare at the Bliop of a-Tory , i »> tho Alatket-ylace , against toe Jfew Poor'Low . Thee * pyraoas -were deputed to * apply to the above plac * t « know how it originate ^ when we fouad it to Wth « production of the iVHthorities of the town ; wa remonstrated-with tUem * upou the improgriety of uot-calling a public meeting , and iuformea thorn-tiiat the- working classes did not iateiiii to let any movement ^ o ou without them having a feiger in the pie , a » they LuU-doue , and that , if they did not call a pufciic iut 6 tia ; , we should aee that the workies did not sign it , and if they did , to let us know and we would ¦ utttnd , aud that we could get a full iiientiug in less thuu au iioar ; , oa
  
  which one of the authorities went tu U-awin i « t the 12 th of August notoriety ) and told tho matter to him - aud he said " let them Aave one ; " they sent to let us know , and we waited upon them agaiu , ami tne overseer applied to Uu win for the Natiunaj . 'Sv-liuoJ ; it was granted ; we got up a good meeting , of iivfehuiidxtd at least , of the workies . We expected the uiiddta meu to take part in the ptoc ^ ediogs , but not one of- them made their appearance iu the place . A police-nuu -was out * !> ide the door , and Uuwiu went puat twice . - \ Vtt had the petition which O'Connor rtcouuuuuued ; - it wa » adopted , with resolutioua embracing the Cuarter . Spititod speeches were given j thieo cxitwa . for UGoanor ; three for the Welsh patriots ; they . were nt the top note ; and the meeting broke uu hi « niv dbiiuiiied . with .
  
  the triumph we had achieved . Also on uie 2 Htd , we had a te . j part / for toe bentUt ot the old Kuig , iiichard Oastlcr , when eighty porsoaa , mosti } ttiiijiieo , tMt down to a good tea , after , which 2 A . each waa taJitit fur all who came . We had a good meeting . Xi / aa&i for OiiaUer , the Sovereignly ot th » Pt-opie , the People ' s Chatter , and way it soon become thu law of iho Kind , Frost , Williams , and Jones , Feargus O'Connor and ther incarcerated Chartists , and the JS'orUiem Stu , r , -which , were all responded to with great spirit . There were patriotic and sentimental song * , and recitations , ' and dancing . Three cheers tot OGunuur and the Northern Star , aud the meeting broke up . much delighted with the iilghte entertainment , taav night , Much 1 st ,, we held a public meeting , to petition tho houaeof incurables for the immediate release of-Fcurgus O'Cuuuoz ,
  
  Esq ., and all incarcerated on political charges . The following resolutions were unauintomly auop . ted : >—" That it is thu opinion or this meeting that tha treatment of Feargua O'Connor , Esq . is illegal , unconstitutional , and unpieccdculed . " That this meeting deeply sympathises with Fcar ^ us O'Connor , Esq ., in txin uuuwrited sufferings , and therefore pledges itself . to -use every legal weans to obtain his liberation , and that > . he following petition be adopted , toi ; pitatutatwa to the House of Commons . " Ihe petition , was here . read . Thanks were then voted to the chairman , Mr . Joaaph Alvey , and the business of the evening ended . A . subscription was entered into for poor Edwards , ia Oakltam Gaol , whom we -have learnt is quite dispirited . Tho cause is going on well here . Our motto ia the Charter aud no surrender , and no- . middle class humbug . Hurrah for the Charter . —Correspondent .
  
  IiOCCrBBDROCGa .-The , Chartists met on Sonday , February 28 th ,. when ilr . J . Skevingtou s » v « a report of the proceedings at Manchester , and explained , the plan of organisation . His -statementa gave great satisfaction . A vote of thanka was then unanimously given to him for his services . After . other matters , had . been consid&red , Mr . Skevingtpn brought under their notice the subject of tne funeral sermons for the' martyred Clayton , on the 14 th , and ou his suggestion , arrangements were made to have sermons ? pleached in the various villages , -when collections are to bo made :. one half to be given to the victim ., Edwards , at Qakham ; . the other hail to be sent to Sheffield , to be Aavwted to the funeral and the widow ; when it hoped tie friends . yr ' ill subscribe . liberally , and show-that they have hearts .
  
  to feel for others . GLASGOW . —A numerous meeting of the shareholders of what is called tbe . " National Printing and . Publishing Company , " was held in the Swaion House . of the Chartist Church , on the . night of Tuesday last * for the purpose of discussing and adoptingjuieg and . regulations , and appointing . Directors for the Comj - pany , Mr . L-Aug in the chaii ; who commenced . business by reading a copy of the rules and regulations , whiah had been previously drawn upand submitted to a . pro . — fesaional gentleman , who pronounced them quite legal =-s . long dUcussion then took place , in which Mt' 88 r 9 » Pattieson , Thomson , Culien , Uobb , Col < jpn . oun , Kogers > . and Mr . Malcolm , Jan ., played their parts . Mr . Cfcishblm nioved , for the better security of tiie shareholders ,
  
  that as soon as it wj « understood that th * Josses 0 / ttw t Company amounted to the one half ot their stock , tb 9 Company fahould be dissolved . This was stcoude 1 \ t and unanimously agreed to . It was then « i 0 \« d ' o l ilr . SJalcoJm , that the Ilirectora do not be requited t 0 sign a bond of security , for one hundred pounds er < & as specified in the regulations ; this amendment wa ^ lost by one of a majority , - fifteen liirectors w « ue t jj en appointed . Mr . PatUesoa . brought up the caaeo f tll 9 Patriot newspaper ; the Editor and present Etvpr t . ietor Mr . Malcolm , sou ., had agreed to give it oyer ^ fre rfOf aJ liabih' ties , and , in e ^ nsequence oi , s » i < l o&sx * t' ae Qen . tral Committee for Scotland had agieeu to . ta ? i ( j three ten pound shares , » d two other individuals b ^ taken shareseach ; and Us proposed that the Comjia ; ; „ ould take live ehares , which , would make « ne hundred
  
  pounds in all ; and with the priati »« of th » J ' ^^ t ^ Chartist Circular ^ ibe Company , would have , a Twy d beginiung . Mrw Rodgera Btcpnded tto proposition , whenoneof th » Bhaieholdej » a » k * d if it was still the intention of Dx . ML'DouaU to start thQ National in Glasgewjaud ^ aT ich wa , tUa ca « e , h ? woui ( 1 , atizer support it in gieference to . the J ? o <« ot ltt answer to which , Mr . Thumson read ajetter fcom / ^ geatleman wherein he stated that he had given o _ mt ide » , and signifying hijtinlention « t publishing ; ^ ftddreM ia ^ Star to that effect : it WMaUw sjate * by Mr xhomaon that the Doator intend * to gublish a , Weejtiy periodical ui Mancheater , and tSwtthe CenV ^ Committee had agreed to use their exertions , to I 7 ave jt widely circulated in Soothuid . Mr- PaXtie / jr , n ' a . motion wa « then put and carried unanimously . A TOtepf thanka was given ta the Ciairm * 8 , and the t - meeting dissolved .
  
  GOBPAI ^ . —A , gnblifl m' Aotingof the inhabitant * of Gorbals wm h « Ul in the charti « t Church , liedfordstrt « t > . Mr . Comewa . is the c / j ^ wno opened tho business of the meeJdii ( by rea ding the placard calling the meeting , and which wa t headed " Ct * rti « n and Clerical BabeUipn . " He remarked th » t hundreds of Chaxtista had bwu throv ^ ^^ diamai dun geons , and some sent bejf ^ nd the « e U | for i ^ g * offenoe against the Jaws of tbe doontry tbr j , had been openly done by the Clergy of ttw Scottiah 1 / isubUshed Church , who had set the civil Uws of the i ^ d at defiance . Het ioaeludeA by caulng upon Mr . Malcolm , jun ., to move the firrt
  
  resoJutioflt . pledguv the meeting to Chartisnj , which was cwxied « aid ti ^ € neers ? f ^ eting . Th « second resoltttxxu , moved by ^ CiujL M'Ewan , who depreonted tbe ; cor-. j da 6 t ' . of '' the clergy , was aUo unaiamowrty carried . Mr , xhomason u « xt addteeaed the meeUug , iu w £ & ^ e showed the baneful effects of establwhed rel jgions . Mr . Cunie followed in behalf of co-operative stores ; he" recommended their seneral adoptien , at' jhongh it ~ TfJll ?^ JmiTOB ' nL but that of ^ pre / eating themseJjMaX ^ y j ^ SKi g ^ vdaol the , meeting fliwwfeMfr ^^^^^~^^^ xS ^ F ^' H V . M 5 snmxxm
  
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  pledged Itself to unceasing exertion for the obtaining of tbe People's Charter . The amended resolution was handed to tis , but through some mistake was left in the room . The above , as far as memory serves ns , is something like iue spirit of it . - The amendment having been se * ended / the Chairman was about to put it to the meeting , when Mr . Hill again rose . He said he could not allow these resolutions to go to the meeting without expressing his dissent from both of them . The first resolution affirmed a nnlon between the middle and working classes to be indispensably necessary ; this he denied . All power centred in the working classes , both social and political . It required only that they should
  
  know that , and that they should bear in mind and act upon the knowledge of it , to enable them to obtain evjry and Bny measure of justice they might seek , not only without the aid of any other class , but in spite of the opposition of every other class . While , at the same time , it was bad policy to permit their consciousness of this to induce them needlessly to provoke u ncnlled for opposition . This he conceived to be done by' the spirit of the amendment , which denounced the nu / dle classes as the enemies of the people , and depr ecated a union -with them as useless . He could not it Tee wita that sentiment . A union of the middle classes would be very useful and was very desirable , if sincere ,. vid based upon right principles . It was quite = ^ iear that the Charter could be had only one of tiro wdys ; it n > ust either pass through the legislative forms
  
  of legislatio ^> <> it tnust be received as the phoenix of liberty , rising out of the ashes of tho present order of things , and sp ringing forth from ruin and desolation , consequent on t ^ e confusion of universal anarchy . This he was sure no t ^ aanist wished for , and therefore he should base hU a mendment of tbe amendment already before them on t . Ha terms of the original resolution , expunging from it only tbe affirmation that a union of tbe middle and wording classes was indispensable . Ho should submit to thtni tho resolution in this form : — ' That , in the oplniou of this meeting , it is indispensably necessary to ootain a Parliament that will do justice to the masses ; and this meeting pledges itself to use every effort to induce the present constituency to return suuh members to parliament as shall make the People ' s Charter the law of the land . "
  
  Tae movor and seconder of the original resolution here stated that they were quite satisfied to submit tbe resolution as altered by Mr . Kill ; and to expunge that portion of it to which he objected . ( Hear , hear , and cheers . ) Mr . Worsdell waa not satisfied -with either of the amendments , lie should therefore propose another : — " That this meeting pledges itself not to join with any clat-s or party for any thing less than the whole Charter . " Mr . Hill said , that as the mover and seconder of the original resolution had adopted his resolution , ho wu . 3 now at liberty to second Mr . Woredell ' s amendment , which he did very cordially , because it was a otronger mode of expressing the same thing .
  
  Mr . Tate then came forward to propose a third amendment , to tbe etfvct that an entire change of system Lj necessary for the bunttit , of 4 tie whole people ; and that the sooner bucti change is tftected the better . Mr . Burns seconded the amendment of Mr . Tate . Mr . Webster withdrew his amendment The C ' HAiiiMAN then proceeded to road ovtsr the original resolution , with the alterations suggested by Mr . Hill , and adopted by its mover and seconder ; the amendment of Mr . Worsdell ; and the amendment of Mr . Tate , before putting them in tbe ordinary farm . Uu Mr . Tata ' s amendment being put to the lueetiug , very few hands were holden up for it For Mr . Worsdell ' s amendment there was a large show of hands , much clapping and cheering . For the original resolution many hauds were holden up ; but not nearly so many as for Mr . Woradeij ' s amendment .
  
  The Chairman declared Mr . Worsdell ' s amendment to b « carried by a large majority , after -which tbe cheering continued for several minutes . The Cua i km an then vacated his seat , and claimed the right , 03 an individual member of the meeting , to make an answer to several remarks , which , during tbe evening , had been made by Mr . Burns , and what he considered to be personally applicable to himself . He bpoke at some length . Air . Burns did not reply . Tho meeting gave three cheers for Foarguj O'Connor , three enters for the Charter , three cheers for the Editor of the Northern Slur , and then separated .
  
  Iheh&H was crammed during the whole evening , and the most intense interest seemed to be manifested by the audience . Several speaker 6 were cheered repeatedly ; ami the hisses , groans , and disapprobation of the audience , were very freely bestowed on tha expediency advocates throughout the whole evening . We haVU not noted in the report tbe exact point of their occurrence , save on those occasions where , assuming the shape of confusion , they interrupted the co or be of the proceedings . 1
  
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