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    HOUSE OF LORDS—Fbidat , Fes . 17 . The Date of Wellington laid on the taVle one of the letters omitted in the collection of ihe Affihanistan documents ; the others « rald not be found . Lord "SFhabsciAFFB , in reply to E « l FUiwillfem , said that £ 75 , 000 liad been collected in consequence of the Queen * letter , to which was added £ -2 o , QQ 9 collected by public subscription . Tlus ksd been pieced in the hands of the Manufacturers * Belief Co « mittee , "Which had been constituted for the distribution of a fnnd collected fifteen yeare age . The sum which had recently been collected had been extensivelydistributsa in the distressed districts . Their Lordships then ads owned to . Moaday .

    Mosdat , Feb . 20 . The Date v * u "_ iiy « T 0 N brought forward a motion for a t-j- ^ of tluafcs to Lord Euenborongh , the generals , cheers , aid soldiers , botk European and native , for tiseit services in bringing to its snecessfal jesult ths w « in Afi&anistan . The illustrious Dote , ss in the exse of tbe ^ forces engaged in China , entered into * succtect-detail of the operations from the first outbreak of the insurrection , oecaaieaally , bat sparingly , interspersed -with -camment ; and , » sf ter vindicating tfc « claims of the-Governor-General , * nd of each commanding officer , to the gratitude of tie country , 'concluded ¦ fey moTiEg the-resolution of whk&y hft had given notice , and in-winch , as be wished the vote to be unanimous , he bad taken care to aToid an ; topic 'which might provoke discussion .

    The debate = wss participated -in by Lord Arctliss . the 3 IftTQnis of LaXDSDOTTse , Lord F ] T 2 G £ JU . lb and TESEI , the Marquis of Cla > b . ic > Rde , Lord BBtVDGB-UB , U * e Bishops of SaUSBCSt and Chi-CHESIER , and the Earl of ^ Iixto , after which the resolution wes put and carried unanimously . - The House-ad jottrned at nine o ' clock .

    TT 7 EXDAX , FEB . 21 . The Hoose met , and after some " talk" abyut the new Hosses , adjourned .

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    HO ^ SE OF COMMONS , Fbidat , Feb . 17 . Mil T- 2 Rjs combe presented petitions praying for an : inquiry into the conductor Lord Abinger at the pro-1 ceedings under the late special commission , from certain , inhabitants of the city of London , and from Tsrion 3 j places in and near the metropolis , the parish of SS . j Anne , iSoho , Camberwell , Somers ' -town , and Islington , ¦ frem a parish , in Southward , &c ; as also a petition to ; the pgrnn effect from Nottingham . ;

    DISTRESS-OF THE C 0 U 2 * TBY . The adjourned debate on Lord Howick"s motion was introduced by j Sir A . L . Hat , who said , that so far from regarding ; this -motion as an attack on Ministers , he should have supposed , if be had sot known the state of parties , that theTfohle Mover was some member of Government , ] proposing to effdesaate the recommendations of Her J M ^ esty ^ speeck . At all events , it was no answer to thai-motion to ssy that it was brought forward for ! party purposes . Tie Minister ought not last year to i have-shaken the foundations of all things , if he -was on- ! prepared to folloTup bis own prtoxapAes . Mr . SASHiBlGH could not help considering this as a : party attack -, and having been sent by & large majority > < $ a large constituency to support the present Govern- i Bient of this country , he should oppose the motion .

    Captain TiVTa-rp took a cursory -view of several of the speeches on the Ministerial side in » vein of ridi- ; cole , -which , npon the hustings , is sometimes found sot ineffective . j Mx . Elacbstgse recommended it to Mr . Ferrand [ "to withdraw his amendment , though he should be i Willing to support the objects of it if brought forward . in the shape of a substantive motion . He would oppose j tbs motion of Lord Howick ; but not by reason of any ' confidence he placed in the Government , whose measures-he considered as having aggravated the evils of . I | i ' | '

    -the country . The declaration of Sir Robari Peel against j -farther change in the Corn Laws had produced some benefit in quieting the apprehensions of the farmers ; int the speech of Mr . Gladstone had been far from distinct or satisfactory ; and he apprehended danger from ' -the -course wbieh Lord Stanley had announced respecting the admission of coin from the Canadis , He assured the ¦ Government that the farmers , though a 5 > ody slow to move , were alive to their own interests , . and that unless they should see a disposition to do "them justice , they -would ere long be found In opposi- : Con to the present Ministry . ' '

    Mr . aiABK -Enitips said he had received a communication which enabled him distinctly to refute several charges made by Mr . Ferrand imputing to certain manufacturers the -iTirmnwn treatment of their spprenticee . This Mr . Philips proceeded to do somewhat in detail , sad added other instances of misinformation . given to members of Parliament , which ooght , in his opinion , to-serve them as a warning against the two ready belief of all the tales they heard . He did not ¦ consider the . preBent distress to have been preduced by the disturbing causes which affected certain foreign markets : there would always be such causes at work in -some qnsrter of the world ; but his own belief was , that the distress arose from the excessive prices wiuchihe present laws imposed upon food , particularly « pon-eorn and sugar . On the * ubjeetof tbe country ' s distress , he did not suffer Wm « u > if to entertain any party -fediruf ; and-from whatever quarter any resedy might be offered , he , should be equally ready to give it his -earnest attention .

    Sir . Fjersasd begged , in explanation , te assure the Hon . -Gentleman who had just sat down _* t he was ; mistaken in supposing him the other night to-charge the manufacturers of Manchester , as a body , with having ! ontrodnced the system of apprenticeship in l _ t neighbourhood . Several-Bon . Members on the other side of , -thehouse frequently spoke as if they believed him to ; have made sueh a charge ; but he must say , once for j all , that he intended to make no such charge against the manufacturers as-a-body ; on the contrary * iie knew < -there were among them some of the kindest _ d best j aen that ever lived . Be also begged to be allowed to j -tell the Hon . Gentleman that he had adopted the plan j which had been so -strongly recommended to him . j Before he read the statement be had received , be took care to obtain from different quarters such evidence as < to produce in bis mind the most thorough conviction that his correspondent was a person in whom be « onld !

    place the greatest Teliance . 1 Mi . Philips had certainly understood the Hon . Ketn-1 ber to make the charge stated , and his own isipres- ; « ions were confirm d by the report he -had seen in the i newspapers of Ike Boa . Gentleman ' s speech—< hear , ' iearj . t Mr . JJabbt could not see the inference wbieh had teen drawn from Sir Robert-Peel ' s speech , that if he waa not prepared to alter the Corn Law this session , be -at least would do so next session . He would not sup- ' . port the Govenuaent . if they had a mental reservation with respect to the alteration cf the law , nor if tbej : pledged themselves irrevocably to maintain it . The ' xnotioD was decidedly a party cove . The Anti-Corn- ' Iaw League did not dare to call itself a Free-Tr * Se i ieagne , for , as Mr . Huskisson S 2 id , every free-trades , stopped sbert of the particular interest to which be belonged .

    iord Hab&t Y = £ 5 k was not prepared to go the length of lemovicg aD agricultural protection , and ' therefore reluctantly opposed the motion . 1 Mr . Bbotherios said that bis . nicst recent infor- ' satiea assured him that things were still becoming worse ; and so fax &om the distress being partial , it was general . YarioEs causes were assigned , and amongat the proposed -remedies was tba lunatic idea of taxing machinery . Hew were our great national bur- j dens-to ia supported if machinery ¦ were restrained ?

    Commercial ppospfcrty was the fonndaticn of national prosperity ; and as to the over-production complained of , it bad been calculated that onr mannJacturers could not produce annually mew than three . guarters of a yard of doth for each inhabitant of this woHd , without going to the planet Jupiter . The agricultural supporters -of : £ ir Robert Peel had threatened to desert him if lie would act up to . iris principles ; sat let him carry oat hiB principles , and he wonld receive support from -men of principle on the oppositisn side of House .

    Me . JL Aetjtood thongfet that the Gsrsrament were treating the motion rather as a trial , ef political strength than as a question affecting the . condition of tfae people . The increased deposits -in the savings' banks of Lancashire htd been pointed ie as a agnof reluming prosperity : bat it was a peoaf of precisely the reverse , for money Tras deposited in iaese institutions because dealers in meeey found that thtje ¦ was no better mode of profitable inTestment , But wMIe ¦ admitting a ^ j deploring lie natjoRal distresSj he had » o confidenee in -the promottrs of the motion before tfce « n ^ % li WO : ild ll ' - tTOte for « - ? ree Trade was 8 182 ? »^^ lfc * " ^^ heard te Parliament ia »« Im ^ ° - Present e ^ dition of the country was KSiV ^ Md of its fllSo » . especially ScrS to i ? 6 ******* mt er ^ ' ^^ **

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    f ^ ssi % 2 JL * ??? $ ***** «> a ^ " readyuTftom ttl J ^ S ?^ ^ ' —2 = » pretext log net altering the Com-laws . In fact it ?*» thw ffwati 7 ihat ought to concede , instead of ik tfg WBceafcona , £ or while the BrazOs put 15 to * o per cent v « O 5 » manufactures , we put , 400 per cent , to their migwc ?/ M * ^ to ^ the letter of the senior Mr

    Gladstone , whi « & * PPwred in the Homing Post , as to the fact , that tM wetiam states of America were anxious t » exchamge ^ ilffir corn far our manufactures ; aad warned the Bouse , & 3 t K | 9 ° S » ' there was a

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    Corn-laT ? . there would be Anti-Corn-law agitatic jl The preponderance of the landed interest was t ? Jked of , hut the manufacturing and mercantile port ^ oa of the community would not submit to be treated as a secondary cIsbs . The landed interest created & vested interest for themselves , and then they plead ' -d that vested interest as an excuse for apholding the 'Corn-law . He concluded with a defence of the Anti-Com-law League from the imputation cf having excited the disturbances a tbe manufacturing districts . Lord F . Egeeton said at that latft hour of the night be should endeavour to compress into the smallest possible space any observations he might deem it hia dnty to make . He was satisfied , whatever the object of the Noble Lord might be in bringing forward this

    motionfor there bad been -some dispute and difference of opinion as to that satjject— -that the Noble Lord himself woaH be the last to take advantage of his motion , and impute to any gentleman who differed from him on that ( the Conservative ) side of tbe Bouse , that that difference arose fron , want of sympathy for the prevailing distress , which all acknowledged and lamented . They had been teid , indeed , and by those who , he thought , had stamped this motion with a vety party character , that they were supporting a Government which had deranged everything and supported nothing . H « thought * hat reproach came not with a good grace frees those of tkelate Government who , whatever might isve been the-character of their policy , it must be ad-¦ nsitted the did not presume to say frem want of ability

    t > r public virtue ) , had left such an account to be settled as it was rather hard to expect , after their having been ten years in office , that their successors , be they whom they might—the Angel Gabriel , Sir Robert Peel , or any other being , should settle—{ laughter tnd cheers ) . Wsnld not the motion of the Noble Lord be supported that night by the representatives of a body of men who were associated for no other purpose than to lead the public to this conclusion , —that nearly all the evils under which the country was groaning were dedncible from legislation for tbe agricultural interests ?—( hear ) . That was admitted . They tthe representatives of the Anti-Gom Law League ) Baid the only remedy for the distress was by the removal of agricultural protection . This was a point on which he humbly presumed to

    differ from the organs of that body . He acknowledged with pain and Borraw that the distress was great—that tbe greater or less amount of it was not worth dispute—that it was great enough to demand all their sympathy . If he thought by conceding to the motion of the Noble Lord he could advance one day or one hour the relief of that distress , he would not oppose it , but would vote for it with as much z ^ al and readiness as he now opposed it . It seemed to kim that s » me little imprudence of language had been used . He found that he and others stood charge . ! with having promoted the offences of which be was partly an eyewitness 2 ast summer ; and he was told that that insurrection in the manufacturing districts began with the Conservative millowners . Be had not seen any report furnished to

    the-Government of the particular transactions of that unfortunate period , but he certainly bad heard it universally reported that tbe origin of that outbreak was a certain Mr . Bailey—( hear )—and that that gentleman was a leading and ac tive member of the Anti-Corn * Law League—( hear , hear ) . He did not himself bring forward the charge against Mr . Bailey , or against the Anti-Corn-Law League , of having originated these disturbances : ho -was perfectly a-srsr « that that body contained , as did most large associations , many gentlemen of great private worth , great property , and considerable ability—many gentlemen whom he should respect if he had the honour of their acquaintance ; but when be was told that it was impossible for a body of men acting together , net to be stimulated by public meetings on a

    sub-; ject on which extreme excitement prevailed , to make speeches and to perform acts which might lead directly or indirectly to such effects as he thought had followed in this ca * e . Be knew as well as the Hon . Member that machinery was in as great danger from these outbreaks as any other sptcies ef property . Be thought it would be very ill judged to give further publicity to the speeches of the Anti-Corn Law League by quoting them there . He had no doubt the parties who made them were ashamed of them since . But they were often told that it was a very just reproach upon many gentlemen who took an interest in such debates as these , that they talked a great deal without proposiDg any practical remedy —( hear . ) Now he bad a remedy to propose —( loud cries of " hear , hear , from the-Opposition benches )—a partial ^ a alight , a temporary one , one to which he attached no weight ( a laugh )

    but one which he sincerely thought would not be without its effect . Be thought that the period of the distress , if it wera to happen at all by any measure , ¦ would be rather by tbe -voluntary dissolution of tbe Anti-Corn Law League—( loud cries of hear , hear , ' and general laughter . ) He left it to her Majesty ' s Government in all such -cases to consider whether any active measures should be taken against the proceedings of that body or not ; but he retained his opinions that a gractfnl and voluntary act of dissolution on the part of the Anti-Corn Law League would be the most likely measure to put a period to the distress . He did not give this in the nature of advice , because he thought his advice would not be followed ; but he stated it as his deliberate opinion—I" hear , bear , " and laughter . ) When talking about the distress of tbe country , one point was frequently overlooked by Hon . Gentlemen . Some Son . Members on the other side of the House

    attributed that distress entirely , or almost entirely , to the existence and continuance of a legislative protection of corn . Be was much more disposed to attribute it to anotheT canse , and to him this was a satisfactory view of the subject , because it did not involve any men , or man , or system , in censure and condemnation , as the contrary view taken by Hon . Gentlemen opposite did . Ha wus inclined to think that the remote , if not the proximate , cause of the distress was one far more difficult to deal with than the Corn Laws . J ; bad not originated in the protection given to the agricultural interest , but in the protection and unnatural stimulus

    given to manufactures—( bear , hear ) . He believed that protection was afforded in the shape of causes and operations in which they were the blind and passive agents coexistent < with insecurity , disorder , and bloodshed in tbe rest of the world . That unnatural stimulus was one -which in the nature of things , and under tbe dispensations of a gracious Providence , could not continue ; and they were now feeling , and ptrbaps would ftel to a later moment , the effects of that unnatural stimulus . Tbe development of the powers of steam being accidently made at such a period , had more to do with the cause of the . present distress than the agricultural protection—( bear , bear ) .

    Mi . COBUCS said hiB chief objection to this mo ' . ion was , that it did not include agricultural as well as manufacturing distress . The agricultural labourers were in a wietcbed state . They were no gainers by tbe Corn Law ^ nor were the fanners . With neither of these classes iiad tbe landlords any right to identify themselves . Tfte landlord was no agriculturist ; he might live all bis days in London or in Paris . Be was no more an agriculturist tftan a shipowner was a sailor . But tbe . real agriculturists were beginning to gut a glimmering of light upon this question . The Member for Dasetshire , when the peasantry were in a wretched state , had attacked the League ; but tbe League had carried back the war into that county , and had taken care thatevery one of its freeholders should

    ! be supplied with a paeket containing about a dozen -tracts , which wonld make them as well acquainted whh tbe subject as thii flense itself— ihear , hear , hear . ) £ e next proceeded to a defence of the League , for tbe . morality and good conduct of whem the cauntry had lately entered into bands to the amount of £ 50 , eoO Xhere had been an attempt , or an alleged attempt , 10 identify the measures of that body with a most odious , snoet horrible , and be would say . almost maniacal transaction . ( Bear , hear . ? There bad been an attempt Eoada in another place , -or attempted to be made , to prwe that certain proceedksgs of Hon . Gentlemen were iatiaately connected with that most horrible transaction . < Hesr , hear . ) He did not believe the report of that allegation which he had seen in the newspapers .

    He did not believe that tbe language , or even the spirit of tbefemarks of a learned and able individual , bad been . correctly described . AH hia predilections and recollections forbade him to beUave that . If he could believe it , he should desire to designate it as the ebullition of an ill-regulated intellect—( oh , © h : >—rather tfcan as the -aSepring of a maliciana spirit . If anytking , indeed , -could add to his gratification ct being a member of the Lessee , it was the pride he felt at the character cf tbe men srith whom he had the-bonoar to be associated ia that assembly . ( Oh , oh !) Yes ; tested by their utility ., : teeted by their public character and private worth , &e- « nhesitatingly avetred that they were fit to be compai&i with any of tbe Members of that House , or cf tfcat other illustrious assembly which was

    beyond its Kslia . ( Hear , hear , and a lau $ h . ) Jsfxt he would ii . aaire why the present motion was to be resisted by the government ? When Sir R . Peel took tbe reins « f . government , he took with them the responsibility of introducing the measures necessary for the country . Toe ministers , some avowedly , others i * apliedly , were advocates of free trade . Why did net , they carry it into tiFect ? Oh , they adopted it only ic the abstract . But this House had nothing to do with abstractions . Length of &me was ple 3 dt * l . He shomd lifce to know whether tijj ^ would be a deffcaee to the elsim of a just plaintiff in z * curt of la w ? 21 seuld not now be said , as at the -end of last session , that the period was unsuitable . TJae jaar lay before them , and there was no pressure of legislative business , public or private . What remained then ? Bad they measures , in contemplation , or had they not * If rot , he wonld tell them emphatically , tb&t tiief were forfeiting their duty to their country—that they -were neglecting their

    duty to theirSovereign—if they coniizmed to hold office one momeafc longer than they found themselves able to submit measures to remedy the national distress—( loud cheers ) . They might say that he was a prophet who would help to fulfil his own prophecies ; but , say what they would , he would tell them this , as , indeed , he had toW them last year , —that werse things were in store ; ttj * t presently tbay would have things in a worse condition in the north of England 5 that the disturbances would cot be confined to the cotton dMncts alone , but that they would have the agricultural population rising upon them , as they bed the manufacturing population iast autumn { and the next time that they had to face s « milar state of dUtress they might rely upon this , that the agricultural population woulu find themaelve * in precisely the same state that the manufacturing classes had for some time been in . They had last year imposed a Corn Law unpalateable to au classes of retractile men- The law had givtn no

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    extension to regular trade ; and it had ndned the speculators . The tariff had reduced the dnty on 700 articles , and had omitted the only two which could have done anything for the people—corn and sugar . The responsibility of all this he was entitled to throw upon the Sight Hon . Baronet , the member for Tamworth . He it was ^ who succeeded in getting that bill passed , and he was to answer for the consequences . The reduction of the timber duty , good in itself , came nselessly in point of time ; for there was no building in progress , either of factories or of shipping . Every one saw clearly tkat the Bight Hon . Baronet must adopt some change of plan , and-it was the dnty of every independent member to throw on him the individual and personal responsibility of the present state of affairs—a responsibility of

    course arising from his position . He was not a party man in that House—( Derisive cheering on the Ministerial side of the Housa ) The public knew that he was no party man ; and he would tell the House that whether Whig or Tory was in office , be would not sit there one hour unless he had the cordial consent of his constituents to vote as he considered best for the welfare of the country . He would tell the Right Honourable Baronet that the whole responsibility Of the present lamentable and dangerous state of the country rested upon his shoulders . — ( " Hear , hear , " from Sir B Peel ) . There never has been violence or tumult in the north except when there was an excessive -want of employment and a consequent want of food for the people . The Right Hon ., Baronet had it in his hands to do as he pleased , or if not , as he once told the Noble Lord the late Secretary for Foreign Affairs

    ( Lord Palmerston ) , be Bad the privilege of resigning office—( loud cheering )—and if be had not the power of doing as he pleated it was his duty to take that course —( cbeers ) it was his duty to resign office the moment he bad not the power to carry those measures which he believed to be for the good of tba country . Bat whether tbe Right Bon . Baronet did so or not , he ( Mr . Cobden ) had faith in the middle classes—he had faith in the best informed portion of tbe working classea , and in the more honest portion of the aristocracy— ( cr ' es of "oh , oh , ")—he had faith that those classes joinlr . g together would force the Right Hon . Baronet ere long to the adoption of those principles which alone could save the country . The Right Hon . Baronet had admitted these principles to be just , politic , and expedient , and he ( Mr . Cobden ) trusted that a union ef the classes to which he had alluded would force him to give them practical effect —( cheers )

    There'were loud cries of " Bankes ,. Bankes , " but Sir R . Peel rose , labouring nnder very considerable excitement , and in a tone of voice which showed great agitation , said—Sir , the Hon . Gentleman has stated here very emphatically , and more than once at the conferences of the Anti-Corn Law League , that he held me individually—( loud cheeisfrom the Ministerial benches ) —that he held me individually responsible for tbe distress and suffering of tbe country . He has said most emphatically that he holds me personally responsible—( loud cheering ) , and be the consequences of that

    insinuation what they may—( cheers)—newr will I be influenced by menaces like these—( loud cheering from the Ministerial side of the House , re-echoed from the Opposition Bide )—never will I be driven by menaces , either in this House or out of it , to adopt a course which I consider at variance —( the cheering was here renewed , so that the latter portion of the sentence was drowned . Tbe House was in a state of tbe utmost excitement , many members on xbe Opposition side of the Hou 39 calling out " No , no . " ) If I have misrepresented the Hon . Gentleman let him explain what he did say .

    Mr . Cobden rose , amidst loud cries of " Chair , chair , ' « ' Order , order , " and cheers . In considerable agitation he said—I did not say I held the Right Hon . Bsronet personally responsibla Sir Robert Peel—( from his seat and with energy . ) —You did , you did—Shouts of " Yes , yes , " continued for several moments amidst cries of " order , order , " and " chair ) . " Mr . Cobden—1 said I held the Right Hon . Baronet responsible by virtue of his office— ( . Umd cries of No , no , " and great confusion ) . That that was my meaning the whole context of what I said explains—( loud cries of No , no ) . "

    Sir R : Peel—The Hon . Gentleman did not say that ha held her Majesty's Government responsible , but , addressing himself to roe—( loud cheering )—in the most emphatic manner said he beld me individually responsible—( cheering ) . I will not overstate anything , therefore , I will not say tfeat I am certain tbe Hon . Gentleman used the word " personally "—( cries of he did , " ) —but that he twice repeated , that he held me individually responsible—( loud cheering)—I am perfectly certain . The Hon . Gentleman may do so , and he may indue © others to bold me individually responsible—( load cheers )—bat it shall in no way influence me in the discharge of my public duty—( loud cheering ) . — With respect to the present motion , he would take no objection on any point of form . That would be an

    unworthy objection on a subject of such deep interest to a suffering people . But what would be the effect of granting the motion ? It would put a stop to the whole business of tbe Executive Government While the committee should be discussing duties on tea , tobacco , sugar , wool , and so on , bow could the government make any fiscal calculation , or negotiate any treaty connected with commerce ? Or would tbe noble lord , instead of dealing with particular duties , move a general resolution for extending the principle of last year ' s tariff ? It was impossible to imagine a proceeding which would so immediately and so generally give a check to commerce , diffuse uncertainty , and shake confidence . He did not deny the existence of the imputed distress ; but it ought not to be ov srstated ; it had been error , for

    instance , to rely on an October report of Mr . Homer as sustaining an allegation that matters were progressively worse , when there was a subsequent report of his in Jannary , by which that allegation was disproved . Now , as to the censures which bad been thrown upon the Government for not following out their own declaration . They had thought that in a general revision ef our commercial code , thu principle of protection ought to be extended , that relaxation , rather than restriction , ought to be the object ; but he himself had qualified those opinions by the most distinct reservations in favour of long-established interests . Mr . Huskinson had stated similar qualifications . So had Dr . Adam Smith , a writer who had not , be thought , been surpassed by any of the modern commentators on

    his works . He then recapitulated tbe improvements introduced by the recent tariff—by that revision to which so little value was attached in this debate . He defended tbe non-inclusion of French winea and some other articles of luxnry from the reduced scale of duties , on the ground that the maintenance of the duties on those articles was necessary for obtaining certain reciprocal concessions ftom the countries wh « re those articles were produced ; and ho justified the omission of sugar by reference to the arguments connected with tbe slave trade , aid the state of existing slavery in the South American plantations . On the subject of timber much had been done ; tbe price of timber bad accordingly been much reduced ; and though Mr . Cobden reckoned this

    reduction for nothing , because no factories were just now in progress , he himself could not help thinking that the building of factories was not the only important object to which timber was applicable . Then he came , to food . He had stiked his administration upon the reduction of the duty on cattle . As to corn he had made certain alterations , and the pricu of corn had fallen materially ; perhaps that result would be ^ attributed solely to the harvest . But , whatever was the cause , the reduction of price was the effect ; and , as soon as ihe price had fallen , then came the cry that the price of provisions mattered little , and tbat the main point was , by admitting foreign corn , to get a foreign market . Be had been asked , a few days ago , whether j he intended to alter the Corn Law this session 1 He 1

    had answered no . Then it was said he had confined i his negation to the present session . Why , he had answered the question according to the animus ; of the questioner , and not with any other j rtference or reservation . He contemplated no 1 alteration of the com laws ; but when he was after- \ wards asked ¦ whether he would pledge himself never to alter H , his answer undoubtedly was , as tbe j answtr of every Minister ought to be upon any ' matter of commercial regulation ( not a matter of J principle , like the maintenance of the monarchy or of > the union , ) that he would not give swh a pledge . It was said by the mover , Settle the question , " but would I the mover ' s own recipe of a fixed du 6 y settle it ? Would not the Anti-Corn Law men continue to agitate ?

    H" next went into some of the general arguments against fixed duty , and against total repeal ; end then addressed himself to Mr . Baring ' s speech of the previous evening , who had charged the present Government with having deranged everything and settled nothing , aud spoke , as follows : —He , the Chancellor of the Exchequer , who held office under Loid Melbourne—how can he recvpeile it to his high advocacy of principle to have held office under a Minister who entertained opinions to which he was himaelf so decidedly opposed ? ( Cheers . ) Bat what were tbe measures which that Chancellor of the Exchequer proposed to relieve the commercial and manufacturing dktress of the country when he / was in office ? 1 ask him to compare his proposed measures with what we have . effected in the new

    tariff . The measures which he then proposed went to icisease the duty on almost all the artittes of raw produes coming into os ? market to be manufactured . Was that the way to iaerease trade or give a stimulus to indsstry—( cheers )—to increase the dnty on raw produce . and to add sixteen per cent to tfce assessed taxes for the purpose of meeting the deficiency in the revenue ? Let the House contras t the meseures of 1840 and lg » l , and then let them judge of tbe means adopted by the late Ministry for carrying out the principles for wbieh they were now fuch ardent advocates , and stimulating the industry of the country . One of the propositions was to increase the doty upon the raw elements of manufacture , and the proposition came from

    tbe very Chancellor of the Exchequer who now thinks proper to taunt me with nnsettling everything and settling nothing . The Bight Hon . Gentleman told us that there vu nothing of party strife in the question , and that , therefore , the motion ought safely to be allowed to pass . He must know , tbat if permitted to pass , it not only would paralyse the future proceedings of the Government , but that no Ministry , knowing what was due to themselves as public men , would allow themselves to remain subject to tbe odium of such , an applied censure . . It would be an implied censure . You have not allowed us the period we never denied to yon , for maturing and bringing forward the measures we deem necessary j bat yon teek to supersede as in the func-

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    tions of the administration of tbe country at the commencement of the session , by calling on the House of Commons to take those functions out of our hands . You ask us what we have done for the purpose of relieving the distresses of the country ? We have done other things , or at least attempted to do other things , than the mere reduction of the Customs' duties . We have been in office about sixteen months , and I think we have a right to look back npon what has been effected during that period without any sense of shame—Ihear , hear , and cheera ) We have succeeded in terminatimg two wars—( cries of " Oh !'" responded to by cheers on the Ministerial side if the House ) . Tbe Noble Lord ! ( Palmeraton ) seems to deny it . But whenever the Noble Lord pleases to claim exclusive

    credit to himself for terminating tke Chinese war , I shall be perfectly prepared to meet him upon that point , and will voluntarily supply him with any information he may require—( great cheering ) . Whether it may have been owing to tbe wisdom of our measures or not , the Noble Lord will not at least deny tbat we have had the good fortune to bring to a successful termination two wars , which were necessarily absorbing tbe capital of this country in unproductive labour , which were , as all wars must do , striking a double blow , by diverting our own resources and consuming tbe resources of those countries with which we are to carry on a commercial intercourse . We hope to effect a reduction in the estimates of the present year —( hear , hear ) . We trust that we shall be enabled in the present session to present

    estimates on the three great branches of naval , military , and civil service , which will show a reduction of about £ 850 , 000—( bear ) . We have at least , then , again begun the process of reducing the estimates . For the last three or four years there has been , perhaps , necessarily and unavoidably , a constantly progressive increase of expenditure and diminution in the revenue of the country . In the present session we shall commence what , I hope , will be a continued series [ of diminished estimates—( cheers ) . We have been enabled to reduce tbe military force in Canada about 4 , 000 men , and we trust that peace baa been established in that Colony . We are delighted with the prospect of establishing a perfect amity with France . We have diminished the duties upon colonial produce in every case where it entered into com .

    petition with our own , and we have thus made some advance towards the system of treating our colonies as integral parts of the empire—( hear , hear ) . We have laboured to tffijet , and I trust successfully , an adjustment cf those differences with the United States which had continued for forty yeara , which have only been exasperated by delays , and which were the main causes for apprehending tbe disturbances of our peaceful relations with that country . We tried to settle those differences without any compromise of British honour , and , on the other hand , without exciting such a feeling of hostility towards this country as appears to exist in some portions of the French cation . For the origin of that hostility we are not responsible . These two countries , however , now present a most

    remarkable spectacle to the civilized world . It is a remarkable thing to see two men who hold the most conspicuous offices In the Government of their respective countries , —the most distinguished In each for their military achievements and military Character , —men who have learned the art and miseries of war on the fields of Toulouse and Waterloo , and who have been opposed to each other on the field of battle ; it ia a remarkable thing to seo those two men exerting all their influence in each country , they being tbe best judges of the sacrificea which war imposes , to inculcate the- lessons of peace , —it Is a glorious occupation for their declining years . The life of each baa been continued beyond tbe ordinary period of human existence , and I sincerely bope tbat tbe life of each may long

    continue , in order tbat they may be spared to exhort their countrymen to lay aside their national jealousies , and to enter into tbe rivalry of honourable competition for increasing human happiness—( cheers . ) When I compare tbe position , the example , and tbe efforts of these men , who have seen the morning sun shine on the living nmBses of embattled hosts tbat were to be low in the grave before the sun was set—when I see them inculcating those lessons of peace , and using their salutary influence respectively to discourage their countrymen from war , I do trust that npon each side those anonymous and irresponsible ¦ writers in journals , who are doing all they can to exasperate tbe public mind . —( long-continued cheering , )—to misrepresent every action between the two Governments , which are

    desirous ot cultivating peace , representing to France that the Minister of France ia tbe tool of England , and representing to England that the Ministry of England are sacrificing tbe honour of England through fear of France . —I do trust that those persons will profit by toe example of two eucb . illustrious warriors , and that that example will neutralize the influence of efforts such as those to which I have referred—efforts not directed by zeal for the honour of the country , but for the base purpose of encouraging national animosities or promoting some parly or personal interest—( loud cheering . ) But do I plead that as any reason why I cannot believe this motion will contribute to diminish permanently tbe distress and relieve the difficulties of the country , or do I maintain that any 1 regard for wbat a Minister may have done should be any obstruction to tbe success of this motion ? Not at all . You may approve of our foreign policy , you may think that we have laid the foundation of peace in Canada , you

    may hear with satisfaction that tbe public expenditure will he diminished , you may hope , tbat although all differences with tbe United States may not be adjusted , yet , that those differences which were the principal cause of apprehension have been satisfactorily and honourably arranged ; but if , while you feel disposed to acknowledge thosa services and approve of this conduct , you nevertheless believe that tbe adoption of this motion will have the effect of relieving tbe public distress , let no consideration , I say it with perfect sincerity to those who alt on this as well as tbe other aide of the bouee , —let no consideration of party interest , no attachment to party , no predilection to particular men , inter fere for an instant with your vote , or prevent you from supporting the motion , if you conscientiously believe tbat it Is calculated to diminish the distress , to lessen privation , and lay the foundation of commercial prosperity , and the permanent welfare of the state—( loud and continued cheering ) .

    Lord J . Russell , after endeavouring to explain the obnoxious expression of Mt . Cobden , proceeded to deal with the question in debate . He justified tbe form of the present motion , and the fitness of the time at which it was brought forward . Foreign nations were induced by the example of this country to restrict their own codes of commerce : aud thus England , by excluding the great articles in which those nations dealt , precluded herself from all chance of getting favourable treaties from them . He could have understood tbe arguments for keeping up high duties upon articles of food if they

    had come from the opponents of free trade ; but he could not understand them when they came from a Government by whom the principles of free trade were adopted and proclaimed . It might be that a fixed duty of 8 s . would not now satisfy the people . It would , he believed , have satisfied them when it was first proposed j but if statesmen allowed the time to go by when a moderate boon would suffice , a larger amount must be eventually conceded . The ultimate repeal of the Raman Catholic disabilities , without any of the securities originally proposed to accompany it , was an illustration of this tendency in political affairs

    Mr . Cobden rose and said , that when the Right Hon . Baronet the Member for Tamworth , at the commencement of his speech , had assumed that be ( Mr . Cobden ) had referred to him personally , he bad disavowed that he had intended to make use of the expression in a manner personally offensive to the Right Hon . Baronet . After he ( Mr . Cobden ) bad sat down , he had heard from Hon . Gentlemen around him that an interpretation had been put upon the language of the Right Hon . Baronet which be should not particularizj : but theremarks since made by the Noble Lord the Member for the city of London ( for which he [ Mr . Cobden ] felt obliged , had given such a definite form to the insinuation of the Right Hon . Baronet , that be rose not for the purpose of offering an explanation beyond what he had before said —( Loud cries of " order , " " chair ) . " The Speaker—The Hon . Member had no right now to address tbe House , except for the purpose of explanation .

    Mr . Cobden had no intention of offering any explanation until he had given the Right Hon . Baronet an opportunity of ( cries of " chair , chair ) . " The Speaker again interpased , and said be bad already endeavoured to explain to the Hon . Member for Stockport that he could not , according to the rules of tbe House , offer any observations except , in the way of explanation . Mr . Cobden said , that since such was the rule of the House , ho begged to say tbat iu what he had stated he had intended ( and he believed every body understood what he meant ) to throw on the Right Hon . Baronet the responsibility of his measures as tbe head of the Government , and that in using the word " individual " he bad done so just as tbe Right Hun . Baronet made use of the expression *• I passed the tariff which you agreed to . '' He had treated the Right Hon . Gentleman , as a member of the G&vernment , as the Right Hon . Gentleman was in the habit of speaking of himself .

    Sir Robert Peel said , that the words " individual responsibility" cad struck him and others . He admitted at once that he thought the words were personal to himself , and felt it might have an effect which others bad seemed to anticipate —( cheers , and loud cries for Mr . Roebuck ) . Mr- ROEBUCK rose amidst considerable confusion , ind apofeo as follows : —At this time of the night I am aot about to make a Bpeech , but to &Bk an explanation in tbe port of a person net now present to a remarkable ixpression which fell from the Hon . Member for Stockport That Hon . Member in the course of his speech xi-night alluded to certain expressions which were used t > y a Noble and Learned Friend of mine in another

    lace , and which the Hon . Member said he considered > bs the result of mania—( cheers , and eries of " No . ") beg pardon—tbe words were " the result of maniacal induct . " Now , when I come to ask an explanation \ this point , I am somewhat startled by tba recolotion of a remarkable circumstance which happened 1 myself previous to this debate . The Hon . Member r Stockport addressed me personally as the friend ' the ^ oble and Learned Lord , and made use of tbe me expression , aud I afterwards toofe the liberty of > plying to the Hon . Member to know if he was about ! make in this House any remarks upon the obaervaona made in another place , because if he did I iouW be'here to make the requisite answer . The

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    answer which the Hon . Member for Stockport , gave me woo thls^— " DoJ not have anything to do with that affair—do not mix yourself up with it , for If you do the Corn Law League will go down to Bath and turn you out "—( tremendous cheers ) . I have very little but contempt for that announcement , and but very little respect for the prudence which suggested the observation—( cheers ) . I tfeink it my duty to make this explanation . I am sorry It is forced on me , but I wish to make it explicitly , so that it cannot be misunderstood . Being a long-tried and a distinguished friend of liberal opinions—among other things a friend to freedom of trade , and having at heart tbe success of this measure , the noble and learned lord bad begged and entreated the friends of com law reform to

    separate themselves from those very imprudent persons who had used'intemperate language . Tbe noble and learned lord , In another place , bad observed , tfeat there had been made in the Anti-Corn Law League insinuations of a character , which late events had illustrated in a painful and awful manner , and , in language more powerful than 1 can use , bad again entreated those who felt deeply interested in the success of the measure be had at heart at ionce to separate themselves from a class of men who could use and adopt such dangerous language . This was the advice which has been described as the result of Ja disordered imagination . —( loud cheera ) On the i 7 th of [ July there was a meeting held of the delegates of the Anti-Corn Law League . Their proceedings were reported the next morning in the Morning

    Chronicle , and { of course that report had been read by those who had' conducted the business of that meeting . But it ao happened that his noble and learned friend did not read the report in tbe Chronicle , but he had read the same report taken from that paper in the Quarterly Review—not quite so ephemiral a production as a newspaper , and therefore more likely to be communicated from one end of the country to the other , And now I think it'my duty , and i never had a mo ^ e painful one cast upon [ me , to read , as the justification of my Noble Friend , ! the paragraphs from which he derived his information . And it will be incumbent on the gentleman to whom allusion was made ( I must mention hifl name ) to explain away hia meaning , or at once to justify himself before mankind . The Rev . Mr .

    Bailey , of Sheffield , said , amongst other things—speaking of the people of the town of Sheffield having refused to communicate their distress to him whilst petitioning Parliament— " It was not words would move Parliament , but force ; this should have effect , if they did not change their system . He had beard of a gentleman who In : a private company said that if 100 persons cast lots amongst them , and tbe lot should fall upon him , he would take the lot to deprive Sir Robert Peel cf life—( loud and indignant cries of "hear , hear . ") He felt convinced that no such attempt ought to be made upon any pretence whatever ; but was persuaded of this , tbat when Sir Robert Peel went to bis grave , there would be but few to shed one tear over him ''—( loud and indignant cries of "hear ") . Now , Sir , it must be clear that the Hon . Member in the expression tbat he used to night was misunderstood by tbe

    opposite side of tbe | House ; but I would ask of him now , if he does not see the danger of using such language—( heat , hear)—as this , when in an assembly like the present there jean be a possibility of misconstruction , even npon words like his , so different from this ? How dangerous at such a meeting , aud at such a time , to use auch Urrible phrnaea as these , against which tho real warning , honest and sincere , ef my Nobie Friend was directed , when be gives that advice which has now been described as tbe offspring of madness —( loud cries of " Hear" ) . ISir , passion sometimes does disturb the beat of judgments , and I sincerely believe that if the Hon . Gentleman will retire to himself and weigh well the words be has used this night respecting tbat Noble person , be will find that there may be error on hia own part as well as on the part of those upon whom be is so ready thus to j cast aspersion —( loud and general cheering ) . >

    llr . Cobden here rose in evident excitement , but v ? aa pulled down again by an Hon . Member neat him , amidst loud cries for explanation . Mr . G . Bankes rose to explain . He supposed tbat those who bad reported the miseries of the Dorsetshire peasantry were tbe same members of tbe Anti-Corn Law League who were ready to go to Bath to unseat the Hon . Member . He was not aware how long these emissaries of the Corn Law League had been in bis neighbourhood , and having been absent some weeks he could not say -whether these emissaries of the Anti-Corn Law League had reduced it to the condition that had been described—( Oh !) with their tracts and pamphlets which they spread about and thrust under doors , and through the windows of the cottages . He

    thought it sufficient to assert , with respect to that part of the country , that the statements of the Hon . Member were not warranted by ^ he facts —( Loud cries of " Hear . " ) Tbe condition of the peasantry was not what could be ¦ wished there , but he bad to lament tbat it bad been rendered worse than it was tbe year before by tbe alterations in the Corn Laws and in the tariff . The Hon . Member had been pleased to style him a decided enemy to the Anti-Corn Lsw League , and he was by no means disposed to quarrel with that designation ; but he would tell the Hon . Member for Stockport this , tbat no endeavours or speeches he ( Mr . Bankes ) might make against tbat Association could ever have such an effect in damaging the Anti-Corn Law League as his ( Mr . Cobden's ) speech that night had had—( Loud cries of Hear , hear . )

    Mr Cobden . —I beg to be allowed to explain . I tell the hon . member for Bath he has totally misrepresented my words—( " Order ") I beg to remind hon . gentlemen , tbat with tbe permission of the chair . I will have the opportunity of explaining fully , and completely , and quietly —( hear , hear ) . I have been misrepresented . I did not describe the eminent individual to whom we have alluded aa " a maniac . " —daughter ) . What I did say was , " that I would treat these remarks , if proved to me , as the ebullition of an ill-regulated intellect—( hear , hear ) , and not aa tbe offspring of a malignant 8 pirit '"—( hear , hear ) . Now , when I used the word " maniac , " it jwas when I said " We console ourselves

    with the belief that M'Naughten was a maniac "—( loud cries of ? ' Oh ! " ) Now , in reference to what has fallen from the hon . and learned member as to wbat took place on this question in the library of the House of Commons , ! where I thought conversations were considered private and secret—( loud cries of " Oh !'' " Haar , ' and V Ah ! shew him up" )—I treated the conversation as private , and should alwayahold as private any conversation Which took place between me and an hon . member in the library , and should never dream of making tbat conversation public . I am not acquainted with the forms or rules of this House , and probably I maybe wrong ; but with reference to what the Hon . and Learned Member

    said fell from I me in tbe way of a threat—(•« Order , " ) I consider it highly necessary that I should be allowed to explain —( bear ); for I should consider myself unworthy of a seat in this House—( a loud burst of cheering from the ¦ Ministerial benches !;—if I bad ever uttered the woids attributed to me by the Hon . and Learned Member in the menacing spirit he has described—( hear , hear ) . I will describe and explain most clearly to this house wbat passed on that occasion . I am not here to interfere with ruembera and their seats—( hear . ) The Hon . and Learned Member asked me if I was going to allude to the eminent individual in question , as he wished , he said , to be present in- that case , in order to take part in the debate . 1 asked him if be was going to justify Lord Brougham , and he said he was . A conversation then passed as 10 what took place when the HonJ Member attacked tbe Sabbath Bill , and lost bis seat iu conse jaance of his opposition t « that Bill—( loud cries of " Question , " and " Time , time' ) .

    The Speaker rose and said , that if the Hon . Member would confine himself to such matters as were strictly personal , in order to justify himself , he should certainly not feel lit his duty to interrupt him , and he was sure the House would listen to him , but not to an unlimited explanation , or reply to wbat had fallen from the Hon . and Learned Member for Bath . Mr . Ht'ME . f amidst cries of " Order" and " Chair , " contended that the Hon . Member for Stockport , ( Mr . Cobden ) ought ; to be permitted to enter iDto a full explanation , after a private conversation had been publicly related-fjhear , hear , and erder ) . The Hon . Member ought to be allowed to justify himself by stating wbat really did take place in order to remove any unfavourable impression produced by what had fallen from the Hon . and Learned Member for Bath—( hear , hear ) . not have tp the

    Mr . Cobde ^—I should alluded Sabbath Bill , but that it is essential to my explanation—( renewed cries Of * ' Question , " and " Chair ) . " Captain Mangles appealed to the House for justice to tbe Hon . Member , who had been seriously accused . This was an occasion when they should show a little indulgence , and even go beyond the strict line of ordericrie 8 of " no , no , ' and " chair ) . " Mr . Hume attempted to obtain a hearing , and was understood to meve the adjournment of the debate . . Mr . CobDENagain rose , and was met with loud cries of " Spoke , and chair ) . '' The Speaker interposed once more , and expressed himself as befoie .

    Mr . Cobden . —I will confine myaelf to what is strictly necessary to explain what passed between tbe Hon . and Learned Member and myself . When I alluded to the Sabbath Bill , I drew attention to the fact that in opposing that Bill tbe Hon . and Learned Member had drawn upon him the hostility of Dissenting Members . I then Baid to him , " If you justify Lord Brougham in bis attack upon the ministers who attended the anti-Corn Law League proceedings , you will get yourself into trouble at Bath . —( Load laughter . ) Von will be considered as the opponent of the body , and you will have members of the League visiting Bath , and anti-Corn Law tea { meetings there . "—( Shouts of laughter . ) Now I come to . the head and front of my offending . — ( Here Mr . Roebuck held up bis band to call tbe

    attention of Members sitting on th « Ministerial Bide to wbat the Hon . Member was saying , and throughout the explanation his gestures were rather remarkable . ) He says that I menaced him . I deny it—( Cries of " Oh , oh ! " ) The spirit of my remarks was tbat of strict friendship . —( Renewed cries of " Oh , oh ? " and Laughter . ) I wish the House to understand that the hon . and learned gentleman threatened no attack npon me in the House . He was proposing to justify Lord Brougham , and to attack the Dissenting ministers , not me —( laughter . ) In my remarks . I had not the most distant idea of threatening him ; and so far from desiring to see him out of Parliament , he ia the last man 1 should wieb to see unseated—( laughter , and cries ol " lime . ")

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    After a brief reply from Lord Howick , Mr . Ferrand obtained the consent of th « Mm . * withdraw his amendment We Hottse to The House then divided . The numbers were—For the motion , „ ... 191 Against it .. ; .. ;; 306 Majority .... ng Sir J . Graham obtained leave to bring in a bill fA amend the law for tbe registration of persons entitlM to vote , and to define certain rights of voting and t « regulate certain proceedings in the election of memhe ™ to serve in Parliament for England and Wales . The House adjourned at a quarter to four o ' clock .

    Monday , Feb . 20 . The House met at the usual hour , and after sntn business of an unimportant nature , e Mr . C . Bruce presented several petitions from , m lieries in the counties of Stirling and Fife ; one ien « i by 506 persons , another by more than 100 femaleT complaining of the Act passed last session for the ram lation of mines and collieries , and the hardahins ta which , under some of its provisions , they are er posed ; and also of the stain thrown on the renut * " tion of females working in coal-pits , which tb > . y hcmli the House would , by amending tbe act , remove . Mr . Forbes presented a similar petition .

    Mr . T . Dcncosibe presented a petition from fts calico-printers of Staffordshire , Derbyshire , and Lan cashire , complaining of tbe privations they were stiff * ing in consequence of the use of machinery , and prav " ing that the House would place some restriction oa Its employment , or appoint a committee to inquire into th effects of machinery on labour . The Hon . Member akla presented a petition from the manufacturing IabonrT of Houldsworth , in the West Riding of YorkshhV complaioing that trade was rapidly declining , anddS tress augmenting in that neighbourhood , and prasiM for a total repeal of the Corn Laws . * Mr , Ferband gave notice of a motion for the anpotBtment of a committee to inquire into tba e&ct » f steam-power and . machinery oa the condition of th industrious classes of the country .

    Mr . T . Duncombe gave notice , with reference to bia motion for an inquiry into the conduct of Lord Abine » when presiding aa a Judge at the Special CormniaJon issued in October last , that , petititions having been presented complaining of his conduct on | that occasion in Cheshire and Lancashire , he should move that the House do summon witnesses to the Bar for the purpose of ascertaining the language used by Lord Abinger in his charges to the Grand Petit Juries , and also in pawing sentence on the prisonera cenvicted for riotin ^ anf political offences before tbat Commission .

    DISTURBANCES IN THE MANUFACTURING DISIEICIS . Mr . Ferrand wished to ask the Secretary of State for tbe Home Department whether the Government bad made any inquiry into the late outbreaks in tas manufacturing districts ; and , if so , whether they would lay the / evidence before the Heose ; and if their had not caused any inquiry to be made , whether it was their intention to do so ? Sir J . Graham said that part of the evidente obtained the Government tbe

    by on subject , had been already made use of against patties who were now sotfeting tbe punishment of tbe law . Tbe other portions of the evidence still remained to be investigated . Trae bills have been found upon the evidence against parties who were to take their trial ia the coarse of eight 01 ten days from the present time , and he ( Sir J . Graham ) was of opinion tbat all tbe circumstances of the case would be bronght out on the trial with respect te who were really responsible for the causa of the disturbances

    THE INDIAN WAR . Sir R . Peel then rose and proposed the following resolution : —* 'That tbe thanks of the House be giren to the Governor-General of India for the ability and judgment with which the resources of the British empire in India have been applied in the support of the military operations in Afghanistan ; and tbat ths thanks of the House b ? given to the general and other officers of the army , both European and Native , for the

    intrepidity , skill , and perseverance displayed by them in the military operations in Afghanistan , and for their indefatigable z-eal and exertions throughout tbe late campaign ; and that the House approves and acknowledges the valour and patient perseverance displayed by the non-coaiinis 8 ioned officers and privates , both European and Natiye . ' , Tbe Hon . Bart spoke at very great length , and was followed by Lord John Russell , Mr . G . Bankes , Mr . Hutt , Sir H . Hardinge , SirT . Colebrooke , and Sir K . Ingi . is In favour of the

    . Mr . HUME proposed as an amendment , "Tbat the consideration of tbe thanks if this House to the Right Honourable Lord Ellenborough . Governor-General of India , be deferred until all the documents , consisting of letters addressed to Major-General Nott , Major-General Pollock , to Major Oatram , and to the Governor cf Bombay ; and of a memorandum for Major-General Sir C . Napier , alluded to in the letter of July 8 th , addressed to the secret committee of the Court of

    Directors , and which have been withheld , shall be laid before this HouBe , to enable the House to judge why , after repeated positive orders issued by Lord Ellen * borough to Sir Jasper Nicbolls and Vlajor-General Nott and Major-General Pollock to withdraw all their forces from Cabul towards the Company ' s possessions , those generals actually advanced their forces , and by their gallant conduct and brilliant successes , vindicated the character of the British arms in tbe scene of their former disasters . "

    Mr . Williams seconded the amendment Mr . B . Baring , Mr . Hogg , Viscount EWngton , Captain Mangles , Col . T . Wood , Captain Beraal , Capi . Layard , Mr . C , Wood , and Mr . S . O'Brien , after » ar& addressed the House , and the resolutions were pnt . The first was carried with the single dissentient of Mr . Hume , and on the others being pnt , Mr . Hume withdrew his amendment , and they were carried seriatim without a dissentient voice . Some other nmimportant busings * was then gone through , after which

    Mr . Fereand moved , " That there be l aid on the table of the House , correct , entire , and unmatilated copies of an original letter addressed to Mr . Edwin Cbadwick , secretary to the Poor Law Cemmission , by Mr . Robert Hyde Greg , dated Manchester , September 17 , 1834 , and of an original letter to Mr . Edwin Cbadwick , by Mr . Henry Ashworth , dated Tutton , near Bo ' . ton , Lancashire . 2 d month , I 3 thday , 1835 . Also a copy of the correspondence relating to , and a return of tae number of persona who were removed from thetf parishes in the agricultural districts into the manufacturing districts , under the authority and sanction of tie Poor Law Commissioners , with the dates and modeioT their removalthe names of tbe parishes from wnicn

    , they were taken , and the names and residences of tie persons to whom they were assigned ; with a particular account of the numbers , sexes and ages in each family when they were removed ; and also of the number 01 deaths , by accident or otherwise , which have « nce taken place among them ; also an account of those wao have been maimed iu their employment , and a statement of the account ef the wages agreed upon w&en consigned , with the actual wages they received ; ana also an account of their present residences , employment , and wages . - Those returns had been three times moved fer in that House ano as often refused . The lasi occasion when their production was soug ht for by tea Hon . Member for Oldham he was importuned by t&e la . e

    Government not to persist in the motion , and he b elieved that Hon . Gentleman had never to the present asy forgiven himself for having given way to tnosa solicitations . The production of the papers * oulcl . p » v 8 to the country the shameful means which haa Dean resorted to by the emissaries of the Poor Law Commiisioners to induce the poor peop le in the south ot fingland to emigrate to the north , in order to become tne slaves of the manufacturers there . Tae treatment 01 those who had been kidnapped by Dr . Kay and otnew . agents of the commissioners , was disgraceful and cru «

    in the extreme . Instead of meeting the comfort * _ anu receiving the wages which bad been promised mm , their wages were reduced one-half , and tbe P ?^' were crowded three or four families into every « cwg ° « and exposed to miseries and diseases of the ffl 0 ? ^ ful description . Sjnall-pox broke out among ttieffli » tbey died by hundreds . Their relatives 10 W ^ made inquiries after them , but no tidings eoula w » " His solemn conviction was , that those poor deim * t people had been sold into a laud of slavery , ™ . f t (> of the eommisaieneTB and the manufacturers Dem

    reduce the rate of wages —( " No , no , " from Mr . ' - Gibsoni . That fact was obvious from an extracs one of those letters which had been already torr wu to the House ; and if the papers he now moveo were produced entire and unmutilated , the cnar «* had made against the commissioners , who were re F ^ aible for the treatment ot these poor people , woo ^ fully substantiated . The Kigbt Hon . Baronet tee wcretary of Stale for the Home Department n ^ . his great honour , engaged that copies of the ps ^ should be laid before the House , so far as i « ^ possible tj procure them ; and he naVea r done a promise that justice would at length >* . ^ to this subject by & Conservative Government- » also to move for a copy of the diet table w P ^ V a Belper Union Workhouse , and at the Dbidj u rkhouse the 31 st day of January iasfc fwffl 1 ™» iu

    —Wo , on w urKnouao , uu me o »»; «•• „ - « .. ^ it weuld appear that the guardians of that u ^' ing under the instructions of the Poor Law CM "" sioners , were treating tfae unfortunate " ^ f "' ner . workhouse in the most cruel and unmerciful maw The Hon . Member also moved for a copy « f' any «»' respondence which bad taken place bftween toe , r Law Commissioners , the Board of Guardian ^ . of t&e Skipton Union , and a firm of cotton-spinners , carryn s ^ a ^ 2 W »" -iE : j Si ° : 32 srt WTrs to the said firm , for the purpose of l »»» w * J " ^^' fi ^ W r tSrg 3 ~ . t ~ J » . hanriad over to the said nrm , ^»

    as t ^^ -TrTs -Ife Sftarf-trssaj-ij ^ as sr ,= i 2 ? iri sras at - * ( Continued in eur Seventh page . )

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• Citation
  • Northern Star (1837-1852), Feb. 25, 1843, page 6, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct470/page/6/