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  Social Lectures . —We hear that Mr . Bucbajian , from Manchester , is to- lecture in the Social Institution , Manchester-street , on Monday auti Toursdar eveningg . A Shopocrat ' s Sympathy . —A worthy shopkeeper , of Newsome , alter the collection of the Stephens Fund , was asied if he tad contributed . His answer was—he had never been solicited . Two friead- - waited on him the following daj ; there happened to be the Rev . David Butler present , and the shopkeeper thiuking he should b « solicited , sa' -d he would contribute i * . if he thought it wo ^ ld send Mr . Stephens to Botany Bar .
  
  BA&NSLEY . National He * t . —The sum of 12 s . Id . national rent , and " s . 3 J . for Stephen * ' Defence Fund , from a fe ? r friends at Darfi ^ ld , near Barnsler . . Northern Uxiox . —The members of the Northern Unioa met at the house of Mr . Michael Tierney , the CoKimercial Inn , "Wilson ' s Piece , on Monday evening last , Mr . Peter Boev in the chair . The business ef the meeting was opened with the reading of & paragraph from the Lcedt Mercury ef 6 atcrday lajst , purporting to be & repsrt of the proceedings which took place in the Odd Frllows' HalJ , daring the deli re y of the anri-Corn Law Lecture on the 23 rd in * t ., by Mr . Greig , of Leeds : which
  
  report , being full of mis-statemeBts respecting Mr . Crabtree and the Charting , called forth the di * ap- " probation of the meeting , so much so , that a committee was formed to reply to tbe statements therein contassed . The meetiDg was then addressed at considerable length by Messrs * . Ashton , Crabtree , Collins , and others , on the conduct of tbe Government respectmg the prosecution of the Northern Star , and also the conduct of on ? representative , Mr . Rider , in the Convention ; after which the fallowing resolutions were carried : —Proposed by Mr . William Ashron , seconded by Mr . George Uttlsy— l * c " That we view with contempt the infamous attempt of the ' base , bleody , and brntal' "Whi g faction .
  
  to destroy , by persecution and incarceration , that indefatigable and uncompromising advocate of universal liberty , Feargus O'Connor , hoping thereby to retard the attainment of Universal Suffrage , and erearaa . ' . V to sto p , by convictions under the abofminabie law of libel , the publication of the Nor I tern Sittr , in eossequence of its unparalleled circulation , and determined opposition to tyranny and oppression . We , therefore , pledge onrytlves to support the Northern . Stnr under any cirenmstances , whether a ? & stamped publication , or in the other alternative , should the infernal prosecutors of its proprietor dar < - to withhold tbe stamp * , and we hereby hope rbr inhabitants of the United Kingdom will jpeeSii ; come to the same determination . " Propestdby Mi John Widd . 'p , -e ^ -Gnded by . Vr . J . Crabtree—2 n »' . 41
  
  Thar we deeply regret the ridiculous conduct o ! our representative , Mr . Rider , in tbe Convention . more paratularly knowing that it is not the first time that he is a * instiled that hoar , asd latterh having , by his inconsistent and highly reprehensible conduct , created ( by ntwarrantable remark * npnn members o . ibe Convention ) a wide breach of confidence , and given to our enemies an opportunity o ! making invidious observations upon the members if that body , which we are pledged to support at eterj ri . « k , we , therefore , consider him as nnfit to be our reprt-eatative . '" 3 rd . ' * Ta- ^ t a delegate be appointed to atwnd the delegate meeting at Manchester , ca lbs t 5-. h day o : M * y next , for tbe purpose oi assisting in ine arrangement * YfhicB . wUJ [ here be made to assist in carryieg out tbe object * of tut Csarier , aid that the expenses of the * a tne he pjLti ost of tbe iuaiis of this Association . "—iltssr * . Crabrree ati Ai-hton ha-ving been proposed , and a show of bands being in fivour of tbe lstier , ht w a « accordinal- elected delegate to attend &t
  
  Manenrster . Vi ' oassiio' Common TJmjon . —At the request oj tie Irish Catholic members of ibis "Union , the following re * o " urion vra-s left entirely to themselves —Proposed by Patrick BradJy , and seconded by John Caaniff . " That we , the ir . sh Catholic mem"b * r * of the Worsbro' Common Northern Union , having ricked Biti indignation and contempt tbe efjrts rnide by that wrtteced apostate , l ) aniel O'Cozneii , alias Eimfyide Moore Carew , tbe kic « j
  
  « : ' " ' ae beggars , alias the Irish Monteitb , to prtve ^; r br people of Ireland , and tbe Irirbmen resid-. cg in England and Scotland , from joinirg the Chartists in their endeavours to obtain Universal Liberty , by statics that tb ? Chartist * were enenr . e to tbe Insh Catholics , aadblasting that the lri ; hrr . e : ) in England ani Scotland placed no eofcndtnce m Feargus O'Connor , Richard Oastler , and the Re ; Mr . Stephens , we , the Irish Ca . irjoi . ic members ri this Union , throw back tbe vile calumny in ikr teeth of the traitor , acd we ttll him that he lies in
  
  every statement be has made cocct-rciDg tbe Chartist- ; asd we , at tie same time , take this opportunity of stating that we have the mos * . perlVcco ^ ndecce in that noble minded patriot , F « argu . » O'Connor , to whom we give the honourable appellation of tbe Iri-h Wallace , and in tie truly j-iou » and heaveaiy-iainded Mr . Stephens , and in the good and philosophical Rscbaxd Gastltr , and that st a- < = determined to support them by every neifl * in oar power , wfei ' i ?; we shall always view O'Connell and his p"Ppy sons , and all the scoundrels who form his tail , as the meanest and basest of wreteht * , whose wboie stady it is to make their forrcnw on the nrins of their enhappv and betrayed country ;
  
  and we call upon every one of our countrymen , who has the * njaiie-c spark of freedom in their breasts , tn come forward , and join in the glorious strugglr that is now being made by Englishmen , Scotchmen , and Wdchmen , in the ' heavenly caa » e of liberty , srniob ie tbe cacse of God , in order that they may prove they are tbe descendants of the brave lri-hiaen wha ' ofun fousht and bird for the liberties o ! Ireland "' 2 sd- " ff « , tbe member * of tbe Worsbro ' Common 2 ? orthpro Union do , in the most snUma ani unequivocal manner , pledge ourselves to support tbr Xoribtrjt Star , so long as it continues to advocate tile interests of tbe working closes ; and ,
  
  sio- _ ii rhe base , blaady , acd bnital Wkigs , or any c-thcr base asd detestihle faction , btar wba ' . ever name they ray , attempt topnt down the Star , in anv vraf to coerce our noble and nneomproiuising advocate , Fearges U'CocBor , we will resist them to tbe uttermost of our power ; and we tell the bloodthir .-tv factions to beware bow tbey handle the ptop . e ' s obampioas , for we are aware that , through them , they intend to strike at tbe las : remaining veMige of British liberty , —but we tell the infernal aoa « fW . should they " succeed is placing our indomitable champions ' in bondage vi ' . e , we will speedily bring a power into action that will hurl the traitors into tternitv . "
  
  TO THE EDITORS OF TKZ XORTHBRN STAB . Gentlehex . —In yoar Star of last Saturday it is stated , that I Tefn& ' d your correspondent admiitapce into the gallery of tbe Odd Fellows' Hall , when - vjr . ix-ejo was deliveriuf his lectnre on the Corn Law * ; when 1 did io . 1 was not aware that Peter H <> ey wag vour correspondent , nor did he tell me that hsww such umillho constable came , whom be stateJ Bij occauatioH to , tiu-n he w * s immediatHly admitted to -he nailery , at Ae itwltl hare been trUUoul a > rord , Jtu . i I kn' j'cJii or had he told me that he held that j- ( . int » . i ; but it has been generally understood here tact Cra-Dtree was your correspondt-n ; at Barn-ley . wh .- > y * A been urevibu * lY . a . Iuiit ' -ed i ^ to tbe gallery .
  
  It setm * stran ge to me that I should b- blamed for that offend and being a subscriber U your paper , which I always admired , for it would nave m ^ de eo matter to me who went into the gallery , ' but wkftn I let-the Hall I wish , to aecomodate my customer * , be whom they will . When Mr . O'Connor - was here the committee ordered me to lei no men « o into the gallery ; 1 obeyed their order * , and when AI' Grflg gave me orders to let a few friends into the ' aa ^ ery , but not to crowd him , 1 did my best to oblige " him ; and as I consider it to be my duty to ti-4 wfeo may taife tlitr Hall . _ The Star states three groans were given for the v—i ^ r of the hall , if there were I did not hear theia
  
  nor did anv one that I haw tolled . ^ By inserung the above in yoor valuable paper of aexi Sim Jay , ^ ^^^ rao ^ THOMAS WHEATLEY . Odd F ellows' Hall . Baros 2 « y , April 30 th , 1839 . - - - ¦ - ¦ ¦ - ¦
  
  HOBBIT ** ' : - - " Nowise Men ' s AssocrATioH . -TbeHoriwry Wori'L M «'« Associirioa Bare rewJvei : o caiJ IB ^ s ^ p ^^ B Se church , to which *« r » l Bangers hare be « invited . ¦
  
  HOJT&EY . Nobthebu U ^ 1 ON .-Ibe » em ^ cffte ^ b , ve Union met on Tuesday ^» £ j ^ r ^* --following resolution wai auammc ^ J . Jjjfj *^ . -That " this meeting place . Urn ?«!* « & %£ & ss ^^ T » rrs « 3 j sn 2 . ™^^ S « 5 £ SS v ~ : ^ : 7 ^ rJ ° : ^^ firmlv advocates the p rinc : p ) ^ % f iem °°% ? Lt £ * » lo ' ? Tess our coutideDce in Mr t . «« etl J » \ U . Peter B . s ^ v . « d JI * t « Defef «« HU ti . ^ e
  
  C Peep Greek MEETiso . -The Raaical * o ' liS have engag e a band , aDd are makmg active 1-Wirion * for the Pern Green Mtenng .
  
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  SHEFFIELD . The Xoktherk Stab . —At a meeting of the member * of the Working Men ' s Association , and rbe inhabitants of Sheffield generally , at their room Mechanics' Institute , the following resolutions were unanimously adopted : —1 st . « That this Asseciation duly appreciating the value of the Northern Star nea-spsper , as a people ' s paper , and tbe wide and deep extent of its usefulness in making them know tneir wrong . * , and as a rallying point of their force , for obta ning their just rights , vre hereby express our unqualified sanction , and pledge ou ' r .-elves to encourage and support the Northern Star , and its proprietor , Mr . Feargus O'Connor , and condemn the hise , mean , and cowardly Government prosecution-of him . "—2 nd " . " Th > . t cbi < resolution be sent to the'Northern Star for insertion . "
  
  BB . AHXPTON . FbMalB Radicals . —A Female Radical Associarion was founded here on Wedne ^ Jav evening week . Mrs . Winter w&s called to the chair , and fifty-three femules enrolled ibeiT ¦ names , and the following resolutk-. n was nnanimously adopted : — '' That it is the opinion of ibis meeting that tbe present system of Government is alike unwise , impolitic , afid unjn ? t ; and to assist in remedying its -glaring abuses , we , the females of the Brampton Radical Association , are determined to support , by every means in our power , the delegates of tbe industrious classes assembled in London , that we , with our husbands , sons , aed brothers , may see the People ' s' Charter become tbe law of tbe land . "
  
  XtOCHDAXE . Public Meeti . vg . —On Saturday la < t , a public meeting was held in tbe Butts , in this town , called by the high constable , Mr . B . Heap , to petition Parliament against the New Poor Law , and to express their disapprobation against tbe same ; Mr . James Taylor was called to preside over the assembly , which consisted of upwards of three thousand persons of all grades of politics . The following resolution was moved by Mr . William KoblDSOD , seconded by Mr . T . Livsey , ai , d ably supported b \ J . BroDterre O'Brien : — \ n . "That it is the opinion of this meeting teat the Poor Law
  
  Amendment ac : h contrary to reason , ju * tice , and humanity ; and that instead of bettering tbe condition , it has teuded to degrade and dt moralize tbe labouring population of this country . " 2 . Moved by Mr Thomas Holroyde , seconded by Mr . John Chappel , ' Tbtt it i . « the opinion of this meeting , that tbr House of Commons hs « no right rotate the manaagement of local affairs out of tbe bands of the people and vest ic in three Malthucian despots at Somerset-boase ; and we are of opinion that tbe
  
  pwp ) e Bare a prtsc-Wptive richt to a * ubsistance in tfce land of their birth , superior to tbe right of landlord * to their estates , or to the power assumed by any lezislat-cre ; ani we fcrther are of opicion tha ' t if it be attempted to enforce tbe New Poor Law in this union , it will be resisted , and that it will ulu : u 3 . ie ! y lead to anarch y ana confu-ion . " 3 rd . '' That the Ch .-mman sian ' tbe Petition on behaif of the meeting , and that John Fieldtn , Esq .. be requested to present the same to tbe Hocse of Corr .-inons . " The m » etin ? was ahlv adurt-scd bv several
  
  per * sn « and the people dispersed without any disorder , only now and then a pistol being fired into the air from people in the crowd . Ti : mai .: e Radical . ? . —The Female Radical Soc : ety established ia this town goi-s on r-pidly , at each meencg ntmbers enroling themselves , deserrained to assist their hu > baiids , fathers and nocs tn work out th « ir pojiucal salvation or fall in th-j attempt . P . ETTT Ssbsioss . — On Mocday b- > t , Cbarle .-BamfiHd , » woollen wa » te dt-alcr , was bro-ogbt up ny J . " Whitirortti , inspet-tfir of worsted and wools for this district , * ior haviagin his possession a quanriiyof bice aod white piiiJicps , or woollen ti a « te . Bamford brought forward a . ilr . John H « vle , a
  
  roarmfaciureT , who rwore he had sold tbe blue ard soms of tbe white Tirfe now product ; " 1 . Several eert . ficatea from ie » ptctable maaiilacturers proved ' hat Bam'f > r 4 was a" regular pnrehaser of their was-e , bat they did no : prove of any advantage to the cttezesnt . He was convicted in £ 20 . —Samuel Fielding was charged by Edward Aia-wortb with ba * -ing kept back 201 bs . of his wot-1 , which he should cavt had along with some othtr mude into a flannel piece . Fieldir . g stated he lad been told by Ains-¦ . vonh to make stout goods , acd if he put more wool in tLera than was weighed him be would make it up ] OB some oeeaiions be had put fe . ur or rive pcancs tno much in . Tbe Bench ordered the parties to retire ar . d male up the affair .
  
  mANCHESTER . The fcllowing are the sums received by tbe Manchester Council : — £ s . d . Thomas Boys 0 0 2 Jonathan HoiUnd 0 16 Four Mechanics , by D . K 0 4 0 ilr . Chambers o 3 4 Da . di > 0 1 3 A few Fnecds 0 8 0 Mr . Bfetbeil 0 3 4 ^ Harrington acd Co 0 1 0 * J . L 0 5 0 Ladies' Shoemakers 1 0 0 Vul ! iam M'Lockton 0 3 7 Mr . S 0 6 ' 2 Mr . Bcthell 0 1 10 A F . ifcd 0 £ > 6 M r . G 0 0 5 ^ James Morgan 0 3 8 Females of No . 1 , District , from Gorton and Clayton 0 6 8 Mr . John Livery 0 1 0 Fernley ' j Spinners 0 1 4 TbnmasBojs 0 0 2 . Mr . Gresty 0 4 9 Mr . Hevvrood 1 4 ( 5 3 Ir . Rn / h 0 1 0 S . C . . ' . 0 I 4 Ann Bethcll 0 0 8 J . Fittcbfcr 0 0 6 Mr . G 0 0 Tj Tbe following resolution was passed by the Manchester Council : — " That tbe Delegate Meeting on Monday , the 6 th of Miy , be held ar . me Mitre , dose to tbe Old Church , at the hour of eleven in ; ke forenoon . "
  
  8 &S . FO 8 B . Radical Association . —The member * of this : A 5 sbciadcn held their weekly meeting on Monday " ast , in the Salford Town Hall ; Mr . William Dutton in tbe chair . Tbe fsliowiDg resolution , . noved by 31 r . John Piarratloueh , and seconded by Mr . Richard Beii , wis unanimously agreed to : — " Hesolved , —That : bis ^ . wociatioD are astonished it the-dariue attemp ts cow being made to rob the working peopie of rhtir rights to voie in their local governments , by a bill now before the House of Commons , called tbe Rating of Tenements' Bill , brought into the Hou * e by Mr . Joseph Bro ' . herton , which has the monstrous proposal un it to transfer tbe r igbt of voting from all bouses below nine poui ^ d * from the tenants to tbe landlord , on the liDdlords paying such amount ot rates as the Board of Guardians may think fit . "
  
  ¦ . Agitation in Pkndlkton . — The following working men were appointed to attend a meeting in Pecdleton this evening : —Mewrs . Richard and Edward Ca ^ si dy , Joues , Csmpbell , Addy , and Duttoo , to obtain tbe supjwrt of tbe people in the struggle for tbe People' : Charter . Tbe meeting then aijourned till Monday next .
  
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  ( Continued from our fir si paze ) only , tbe men of Lancasb-re ar . d Yorksh : n > , but al > o on those of 13 inainghan , ard every otbpr place where tbpy bad b ^ pn properly ron .-ed . The very able , clear , and copious r ^ p ^ rt jnst made by 2 > jr . U'Brien , freatly limited bis labours on thff prespnt occasion , and he promised that be would not travel ont of the Tecord , bnt confine himself to the snbjecV-matler of his motion . He was wrry that his horu friend , the Chancellor of the Exchequer ( Mr . Kogeu ) tu not present a 4 lhn moment , as hewould bavel jiometbing to say regarding tie expenses of the delegates while attending the Convention ia the country . It was quite true that the air of LondoD 35 d hot at all times agree with the delegates ; tbey required a more bracing and pnrer air , and be thought the objects of tbe Convention would be
  
  i best attained by sitting in Birmingham . They wer ? informed that there was a great want of union among the men of Birmingham—that they verf apjtihetic—that there was » slackness of agitation in its jjeigjabourhood . All those were good reasons for fl »« Convention going ihere . The delegates wotild dtySd ' e L \ pmselves into agitating committees . otS . the * work troul" ! go br-vdj on . There-was a fYtit ' deal of pride and rarity amonfst the human race . '" - Tietn ' en of Birmineham had put their shonld « T 8 to the wheel in 1832 , and they had certainly earned ' - tike- Reform-BiH . Let the Convention go aUWDgit lliein ; * h ** tfcfiia timt in 18 & 2 tbey had failed to spenre those rights and privileges , and they , ht their pride , woxld ba rou-i- ? d to join them heart aid ha »< l in 'heir etryzgl * for the Charter . It w » - certainly very essential that the Govtrnmpnt shoulJ know that the delegates thero assembled retainediJie
  
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  confidence of the great' body of the peopie , in order to shew that , let the Convention go aux > i } g 3 t them , und thf-y would sit and deliberate amongst 1 ' roin 15 . 000 to 20 , 000 of the working classes , while in tbe evenings they wonld have meetings of thousands around thtm Li the Bull-ring . Of course if hia motion were carried , it would be necessary to vote a certain sum of money in order to carry the delegates down . 1 / mattered not how the money was spent , so that it was laid out in the manner best calculated to gft np xieetiog * . For that purpose where was any place so well situated as Birmingham ? in going to any one place , with the single exception of Bristol , the Delegates appointed to attend meeting * had to go through Birmineham , and airain had to
  
  pa ? s through in retnrn . Now if the Convention were sittiug there , there woald be a great saving ol expense iu travelling . The Court , wherever it went , uenerally corrupted the public , but their Court , the Conrenti-JD , wonld purify it , and raise ic in the social scale . The whole of the numerous letters which they had received that morniijj ? , xpoke of rtie necessity » or the attendance of the Delegate at the large meetings to be held in WhiUun-sveek ; the far greater number were from the North ,, aad the s-iving of expanse to the Convention by sitting for a time tn Birmingham , would be immense . He kne w that some were in favour of fitting in Manchester ; bat considering the state of the population of that town , he decidedly thought it would be impolitic to
  
  go there at yresent . He could not sit there one week with patience , seeing the population as badly off again as they were when they thought they wen- > suffering almost starvation . In Manchester th ^ y would deliberate and decide from passion ; in Birmingham they would act with judgment . He knew that the country was anxious to see the Convention remove iUelf from London , and to see it hold its sittings in some of thu Urge towns . Let the Convention go amongst them , and its moral force would act as a check to , andcontrol , thephy 8 ical-forcomen . He was perfectly convinced the people genftrally would act only according as they were advised by the Convention . ( Cheers . ) He was sur « of it ; then why not let them go down amongst them ? Every
  
  paper in London , Whig or Tory , were leagued together in misrepresent all that was done by them ; they carefully noted down every word of dissension that occurred there , but altogether omitted their unanimity . They must act by and fL > r themselves , and put mi end to that discord which had reigned amongst them . He told them some day » ago that advantage would be taken of their disunion ; aud that very morning , a manifesto of O'Connell ' s and other partie ? had bepn put into his hand * , wherein was promised every sort of suffrage bnt Universal Suffrage ; bat , then , look at the policy of the matter—if it were to catch any of tbe flie . < of the Convention , it should turn out itiatnoone had pronai ^ d it— it « as not sigued . In that place , they dare not , say that the Convention was the fountain of all law and justice—he dared them to say that in London , but let them go down to Birmingham , and they would be obliged at once to declare that they alone were
  
  the fountain of all law , order , and justice . He trusted the London delegates—those nentl-men who \ vent to their homes every night , while the country delegates were looking for lodgings—would not oppose the motion , but cordially agree in it , nnd jjo into the coiiitry , and gee with tiieir owa eve . < , the Mate of organization in which it was . London had had tbe benwtic of tbe labours and information of tb ^ country delrgates—then why should not the country have some of the advantages of these of the Loudon men ? He thought his motion was one that , if carried , would prove beneficial to tteir views ; and , therefore , he trusted it would be agreed to . Mr . O'L ' itiEN under .-tood that the Petition wad to be presented on the tich of May—if it were so , ho would have much pk-Asure in seconding the motion . 11 is opinion was , that up to the pr £ st * i ) tiUi ,, n of ihe Petition . London was the proper ptace for the Convention to be . (( "ht-ers . ) Hr had not the slightest objection to gt > to Hirrairgham immediate ) v « frtT .
  
  Dr . Fletcher wished Mr . O'Connor to fix the date somewhat later—say the Monday after the Peiitic / n was presented . He thought tbe question was one which could best be considered in a Committee . He did not generally approve of business being left to a committee , yet tbe present one he thought coald be better discuvred in a committee of three or four person * than openly . Mr . O'Ukihx—It wa < to be remembered that the business of the Convention did not close with the r res-nta ! io : i of the Petition . Dr . Flktchkr—Did Mr . O'Connor agree to h ' m proposition ? because , if not , he ( D . K . ) had somo ' re ; i « ons to oiler ae-uiiNt the motion .
  
  Mr . O Co . nkok said it was well known that their labours only commenced with th ^ presentation of the Petition , but he wished lo aid each succpssive attempt by external attempts . He wished the Convention to aid the Petition— it * sitting at Birmingham to aid the bringing in of the bill—and the simukaueons meetings to aid and assist the ulterior proceeding , which tbey might as-ist . Dr . Fletchkb did not wish for any delay beyond tbe time nec .-ssary for seeing and consuming uj > on tbe matter with the memb- r > who were their friends . He , hewever , wisbt-d the Convention to co to Manchester . Afrer apologizing to the peopltTof London lor the manner in which he ba-1 spoken of them , which he said he had done in their public ar . d agcharacu r . nnd not in din
  
  gr ^ gate dually , he said he * i-bed tbe Convention to go to Manchester , where rhe people were well organiz-ij , and where they showed none of that apathy , which had been shown by the men of liirmiijgLam . Besides , the latter placs was torn by faction ? , and their proceedings would jiot be free from it there . In the" neighbourhood of Manchester , there was near a million of people , well organiztti } , and determined to stand by ihe Convention , and giva them every protection . The question would soon arise as to -where ths Government would attempt fo Jay hand upon them j tb-refore , he would be among * t a large population ¦ which was devoted to the Convention . He : wouH , tbereiore , move that the Convention go to Manchester on tbe 13 th inst . . '
  
  Mr . Duncan seconded the amendment . He had uo donbt but that the Whig and'Tory *' pre y s ' , of London would nil say that the Convention'hftd ran for it , but he . carec ! not . He liked Mahche ' stertest , because it L * further north . If rh * proportion wert » to go to Glasgow , I woold like it nil the tetter . ( Cheers , and " We will go there too . " ) : * He was S' -rry that the proposition had been altered . He liked the day rir .-t named best , because the latter rterely put it back four days , and that was lour dayV postponement of ulterior measures , which it was necessary to consider as noon a * possible . The London people had had th- ; advantage—the privilege of having tbe Convention amongst them tor tbrt e mot ths , aud it was but fair that tbe country should have thesame . He doubted whether
  
  t \ e Petition would b « presented on the o ' th of May . (• ' Yen , it must . "} He was afraid it would not , its he understood that the negocistions between the committee and tbe Member * who were to present the Petition w « s not in a iavourable positiou . One of them said , " Before I can present your Petition , yen roust pass a certain resolution . " This was dictation with a vengeance , and ought to be tfcouttd . ( Hear , hf-ar , hear . ) He had expected that tkere would have been a death struggle between the Members in t * seir favour for tbe honour of presenting such a noble Petition . ( Cheers . ) The excitement in tbe country was to know what ulterior measures the Convention would recommend , and he was sorry that they bad lost the four d 6 > ys before settling that question .
  
  Mr . Rogers did not see any very good reason against the motiop , but he could ste no good reason lor ruimiug away from their post . s ttt the very commencement of the business . ( Cheer * . ) He rawnogooi reasrn why the Delegates should not go down to the country , and see their constituents ; but tbey were sent to London for a specific purpose , and they had no right to run away until they had performed that duty . Dr . Fletcher said the people of Manchester would protect them , but whnt w » s Dr . Fletcher going to do ? ( Langfett-r . ) He ( Mr , R . ) wanted the protection of the law ; i he had been a Reformer siace the day * , of . Major Cartwright ani Cobbett , and he Had * never yet , recommeiKled any d-parture from legal and lawful means .
  
  Ho had always advocated Ihe right of resistance as being the best aud dearest right-of the subject but it could nev »* r be nspd propejly nnlil . fell constitutional means had bten triucJ and failed . Ti * ey had not used one tithe of thosw means yet , and . the question was whether the timj » . of rejry'tHrjce ha 4 arrived . He thought not . CircuBrtitances migfu arise -whichmight render it necessary to meet' their constituent * , - bat it was not necessary fo fix any particular day . -- - ¦ • - .-. ¦ --:- - < ¦ ' .. . Mr . Sanket eo-nld not agree ^ with Mr . ' O'Connor tirat tbe Cobventjoh vus the" fountain" of ill law and jtisti-e . He did no : agfiseiti eittief oftht * propositions before the Conventios , arid ¦ ^ roulty therefore , move tbe prerioDs qup . 'tibii .
  
  Mr . Lowerv was of opinion that the Comention ought to adjourn to Birmingham , Manchester , or some of the large towns of the . North ; bujt ^ jih jUii s rest-rvntion , th ^ t the ? were hound to waitanLpudon until the Petition had teen presented , ap 4 ; leave ask ? i lo briuil in t'BQt' - After tliat nnie it Wd '^ l ^ b ? tbe duty of tte inmbers ofthe Convention to t ^ Tl tbe people what steps had been taken . : Ali they now baa to consider was the n ? tenor measure * whicu ought to be ^ Joptt-d , and tbe committee appointed to consider those measures ought to be , pi-ppawd U > state , within s daj of the presentation , of 1 && Petition , whatineaaurpg they , recommtpded , He thought ater the Bill had been , nyectedj they ah . ould still sit Jn London" ** fa r iWo' or three aijs , to Consider wrratstejwii ? would he necessiry'w taite . •'' After " th ' attfeey inig ^ t le * Ve London for the ceuhtrv , and h » - 'AfHi'd second the ame ' iidhieflt for " adjourning to M *» oW « ter , - "' - : . — --. ; -
  
  Mr . RrcHAKOs "doubled whether the Convention had th » power to lenve London wifbout "b ' eing recslled by their roustituenu . * At ftH events , they could not go until nfter the presentation <> f the Petition , and asking for leave to bring in the BUI ,
  
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  { he objects for which they had assembled ^ ' Jle should eecond the pre * ious quipation . Mr . Swart . ' was decidel y , ) f dj » ii "» i (> n th % " 0 onwn tion ooght to continue its s » Ui » g . t . iu this place until the fate ot both measures Should be kuovra / After tluy were rejected , it would be of no n « e oontinaiug here any longer , and he should bo in laruur ot adjourning to Birmingham . Mr . Burns aaid the duties ef tbe membera , who had been sent here , had not been yet JajJilled , nnd he could not support any motion for adjournment anvil the result of tht-ir application should beknown .
  
  He ahoyld prefer Birmingham to Manchester , when the time for adjournment srrited ^ bnt would now support tne priviou ^ fjuwtjon ^ , > lr . Hartwbld would vote " against Mr . O'Connor nnd against Dr . Fletcher , for this reason , that their duty was only to superintend the presentation of the Petition . ( iiyar , 'hear . ) It Appeared to him that thu Convention could no * adjourn on the 13 th of May , inasmuch a . Vthe Bill Wonld not be introduced until that time . ( Hear , hear . ) He had iso objection to any part of che country ) but at present would be for staying in . Lonclpn . ¦ ¦
  
  Mr . WniT . TLE . —Mr . HartvnellindMn L 6 vfe ^ "bare reduced the que * uoB to » plain B ' atement of arith / uetic in ssying that v « e shoald embarrass ov . TposHiun by » i ) joarning e » tfv * he « . He thought the atnetidiuentof Air . Jiamkny , would be the be » t p lan for their adoption . ( Hoar , hear . * l H *> rearetted that Mr . Duncan , who Was highly cl Mf ^ . tpri ^ rQfhlkdls&Mioa , did make any strictures on the AtKUibeni of Parliitment who were to support th . 'ir petition / Be ( Mr . Whitil «) was as jDuch inclined t >> pans censure on Member * ol PjiflinMent u * any one of tb « b « Mly , but he could not oh thii occasion think it wise to make such reflection * .. ( U ^ r , ; He renrefred oUo that Air . O'Connor , in his aijdri'wi , had liiade use of anv language which m-ght be eonntrued into i itrCifuitn ^ ndation of opposing the cunstitational law . Mr . O'CONNOR . — "No . " - ' ' ¦ ¦ •¦ - ¦ He Mr . WHITTLBdidwy Chat Mr < 0 * Connor 3 aid that whfin in Kinninahaiu th ^ y would there bo the lovintain of
  
  power—( hear)—and that tjagre they wouldhuve the . pfiO ( ile at thotr back . ( Bear , bear . ) He did not think it woold be prudent to asdume » power that might not be within th « scope of their ability to exercise . ( Hear , hear . ) Another part ot Mr . O ' Connor ' s address he had alluded to , the recurrence , on the part of tho Government , of th « necrsU y of having the people at their back if _ thtre was an inclination to put them down b y force . .. . Mr . LOVETT rose to order . He would put to Mr . Whittle the impropriety of adopting sucb collide when it « 'fts knnwn that thuae ducujaioon . would go forth to the publili . ( Hear . ) . - ¦ " ¦¦ ¦' ¦ ' ¦ ' Mr . WmTTLK WOttla not say anything further on the question . . ' ¦ Mr . LOVETT would , when the- proposition came , briny forward in anieiidraeht which would dttme thn time that thu Covrenlioii abould re-assemble in Londoa , if Mr . O'Conaor ' s resolution ww carried . Mr . DDNCAN fiplainpd . 1
  
  Mr . SKKVINGTON supported the resolution of Air . O'Connor . Mr . O'BBIEK Hi not , in seconding Mr . O'Connor ' aproposition , mean to support it ia that part which said tht < y were to Jeave London on a certain day . ( Hear , heor . J , < U <« r . th <; Parliament had rejected tho petition ^ tkn presnUatiun tf which at pre .-ent wan the only duty ot the Cinvention , lie thought they onght to proceed to the country . He alsothnnght they might thftn to proceed where thnrn would be no chunce of the Government forcing a military de . ipoti . sm oh the pe » - filft . ( Hear , hear . ) They nhould then b « uiuon « a population who would be in ijuch a state of i ^ xcitfinent that the Guvcrimieut would bp afraid to suspend the Constitutional gHaraoloe which went to protect the siirjuct . ( Hear , hear . ) He wanted to bo in a plaeo where there would b » a million ol people read y to Bay that Parliament had no right to do thi-T , and we wilt not ullow it . ( Hear , hear , and cheer * . ) He was uf opinion thai they should not At ^ TOAetit leav e Lonuoni but that aitxiion an the lain ol the pL'tiii m wax decided , hrthmiijht they ought tn proceed to either Birmingham ( ir Manchi : « ter , inorderlo project ulterior measures . With this view he would propose an -amendment .
  
  Dr . FLETCHER withdrew hii amendment . Mr . COLLINS would not support the remnuiion for Mr . O'Connor ' s r ^ nson . H , oneof which was that this should bv * the fountain ol all f-ower . ( Hear , ht-ar , frnm the M « t » l Korew . ) He did not think it prudent t » a ;< Mimtt tmch an authority , ; iud be would nevur consider him « 'l / " one « f a liO'Jy . who would consider thcnufelvpg entitled lo snch power , fflear . ) NVithi r would heagrco with another rt « a « oti set 'fiirlli by Mr . O'Connsr ; that in Uiriuinphnm they would have no much protection from the people of Iiirminfch * n > as wpuld-lw » ve it out of the power of their enemiea to iiirttest' thetv | ha p » ly srtncht tiie «; nnt ? prfltertto . i o /» Mr . Hi . gerittliff ^ namnlyj th- ' proiection ol the law— bnt it * evpr th / r tceaajotf anHe , '¦ 'ke would not ilinch fronvrfj « -lli ) ig Surca by forco- ( Hear and l « u < * chetrA . ) Hewould vote l « r-th other forlion of the people of Knx ' und were )) tor «» alive to thuir duly .
  
  It was their modeajy al 60 l > that pVdvcntrd the ' people ol that place tiling on it for holding the . sittings of the (" nnvvnti'm . ( Hear ) In Bi . ru ; ing . haiji , the ^ JargLvniappfaci j Ufera . ^ ijjqut nhtit upiheir men a'they 8 id tn'M + nchester : an 3 ' this was ; i good rea *> n Mbf N (* tii < hM ( ei > -i , V < itfWri < , t 'bi- clio ^ h ' , fpf'it wn * well known . Oiat ; Ibwre ihe watlcin ^ jH > opl <» i wert : aU the mercy of tht maH ^ f ^ cturej-s ; Y . f ^ ejw , ) , , -, \ ( 1 , " . ; . ¦;;'(•' Mr . BCSSEr ' saM it wiis . nitir « 'l y a qViestjon oiTMine- ' H l » . ooe : of ., a »!} inUnmfr 1 t , not of ultfirinr measures , ,- They were not d p iiig good in Kuni ^ on ; Key ' ft \ j jpKt ti / ffi » wlh ^ hj ihe men tvi ' r « readj- und had toots in their iisnin- ( Chi *! r » . ) Krom- what he gathered in the dc bate which had goive&n , h « w » h of opinion that Birmingham was in the best state for . their purpiim ^ . What did the 1 ' ar-Hami-nt care fora haindful < . f men sitting in Bolt Court , it was only taken among the million * that they could b « effective . H * would support Mr . 'O'Connor ' s resolution . ( Hear , hear , hear . ) Mr . Nkesom was for adjnnrnment .
  
  Mr Mills—If we go to Birmingham , according to ihe mnvpr nf the rfsolulion , we were to be the fountain of law . ( Hear . ) He wan or . nof those who thought that his instructiotn < ii » l not go so far as to endow him with tbe pin er of making law . ( Hear and cheers . ) Another argument was ihut there we would be in a i place of safety . Something ot fear set-wed to be what was fell by many ofthe Delegate * , and from what he saw about h ' liin , he thought a caricaturist would have a tich"field for hi > powers- of pencfV'in'the Convention . ( HrtSri . Unghter , a « d ekeerit . <} U ! Ub was ' not' im- ' bu ^ dwUh-xhatfeaiiaSof . d > 4 rrhe { dit ^ ^ tn ^ trt . ^ heine-tho / . ittjek Ciirne from , v > Ketfi « r in London ^ r i « ih « 9 f ) mUry ; jh « was roady U niuul it ; ¦ iiritf kKde ihunfijurfs ; ' bntjKe could ' itqt see the ' propriety of * eiu « rUibidg th « ' rcskutibn W pi ^ soiitj ' ( H « ar , he » ff . ) : t ' , \ l : •> .. > ¦ :,,: ' ; , ¦ , if . j , i . ¦ . Jj . IL . ,- 'M ::- > Mr . CdRr ^^ Te . Ii . comh 9 Ued . ptl \ e . Uea ? f ad | outftn ^ n » , a « : tending ' To give Wevalpnce V > a ' n ( i pinltm thai they Were raadyi tmtin ' - fcwnv . " - Air . CUfS « ntprcort l ' ilrirti d ( i . ! iro iiii'riW ttrtln-r «» , f '
  
  ;> r > i * l made * ik > Die rrmrfka-oa the iw ' priidi'ttOA'ot B «} jd ( irnmg to Birmingham or Manchesterpn the <^ lt »' or WayJAtfVrn . itttVM known thai the "P ettlion , couid . not be presented On Mgjxdaj the 6 th . < Uwd trie » ol * -Itcdn "—« ' | tm ' aat "— >• ' !? RKall' ^ -. " Hear , ha » r . ' " J . Xtlai . mu « h inltTrupiioH , Mf . 'Carpeo ^ r stated that from the ^ UPBlbern who i ^ re to piesen t . it t ^ ljftf irtg'givenKcnice ( if Irs pnrsentiition , it could * najt bepreaented as « 6 on tis if Was lirtagtned . . ' - ( ' > C ) rdw , - -friirt MS-. ' b ^ t > g"ii (; ard cheering . ) He . pr « f » ump * J thuthiioh noliea MfOuld ; be ' jfiV « in by the Membi 7 f ) on Monday , the oih , aud that i £ « ould n 9 t ( 'bu : prosSritc'd - until Ihuraday . the fllh . ., He always '' thougWn " 'it rt « Hirftbl « that" a ais ' eusnion on t ' & presentation of tho ' l'tiilion » hoold tyke place * This discHnni 6 u would bring » h « ra to-tho day on which it wa » sooghMo » Jjunrn , the . Conv-omioo .. Wohj tliat consistent ? . VYnulJ the Conventioi ) bu doing its t ) u ) . y li ) , iurif , or to the ctmntry , if they were to nia fiway while tJijs dkcusaiiin wa « going oh ? Ho would , ask them / tie cotirVrrr
  
  deliiKat . > . t ) to remain , in Uwridrm until . 1 h' * y should sots th < - rMult r > f theniotipn to be _ made on vth « . Charter , atid ^ ' thatthfen , their duty would be to gh atnong their constituents , and take tl ^ ir upitiion « s to what wonid , bu ; their ctnduot ini future . He would oppose bo ; h thi-renolutioiiand propOBeiljJuioiidjuv'jit of'Mr . 'O'Brien : ( Rear . ) ' '" ' " . ' Mt . O'CONNOR TP-p ^ fd : He denied the construction pilt i on hti words by Mr . Whittle . 'He 'did si > y that itrBirniirig ^ ham they would be among ih * people , and -tv » s it hot ^ rom the piople all luw . sprung ? Who c ^ Juld j deny it ? , ( Ht ; w . " l ) Urf continued at much length to argue again . it tie pr ouosit iuu of "Mr . O'Bri . n , and proceeded ' to » uy tltatMri Oarpenter >¦» * » only throwing a rBttj . Urikut ' on th * qu JHtion by ^ "hihing thim ( o climb np hi * Jatob ' s Udder of motion 6 ne day , and wnsen'ation next day ,. andsn on . ( Henr and checru ) And »» io the presentation of the Petition , it must bi > presented . Hear ] No matter who refuses to present it , if'it would go to
  
  that . Jsomeol the Delegates would present it . [ Cht-ers . ] This day ' s debate showed thpy didnotdp anyihiiig in Iipndun . If they passed Mr . O'Brien ' n motion ' it would db assuming to themselvis anewpowerot re-election which ojil y wa * in the hands of their cnHstitncntH . With regard to * Birmihg"bam , Mr . Collins could state to them that the people of Birmisghain would not . suffer Mr . Attwood to ref . me pruJenting the . petition without Visiting on him the . behslty which he yrouid iie . i » TVB foT Bnch conduct . ( Hpar i'hear , ujiti cheers . ) He ( Mr . O'Connor ) would upeak : out : he had hear J that Afr . Attwood had said that he . would , nit preaoulj . thq'yetitiwB unles * it win accompanied by a rusohition for pe , ace , inw , and order . ( Loud cries of '" Hear , friiar ;* " ) lie •( Wi ' ti'C Jwottld not for one instant deliberate on what hu » hoijdde if this \ yere thy case—he would at onctt aay ijbat ^ htt nevti > abou'd sign such a resolution . , JHear , hear , and cheering . ) . ^ VJf , O'Connor concluded "by xaying that > it > tt'OHld p ersevere io his motion . ' ' ' ? «¦ ¦ - - ¦
  
  Mr . SANKSY , iuexplanatien . said , ifhathe owf ^ tobis own cosBcience and to Ufo conatituenls , in consequence of tbe expression of Mr . O'Connor , " that the Convention , aa representing the people at large , weyethH fountain of law , "—that he should move the previous question . The CHAIRMAN put the j » eyiuus question , which , wap carried by a U- 'aJ orilj of one ; sintccn voting for ihe motion of Mr . O'Coimor , " a ' nd ' seventeen for Wfr . Saiike ' y ' a anieh'd- ' - raent . . •• - . ¦ ' ¦ . . . . ' ¦ ' / ¦'¦¦ ' ¦ ¦¦¦; (• : ¦ " ¦ ' ' ¦ ' - ¦• ' ¦ ' ' Mr . L ' L'SSEV asked , was tfio Sctretary ' i ^ ot ^ registered for the prfvion * question ? to which ,. , , Mr . XoVKTTreplied that it was . Mr . Q'bK 1 EN said , in-concequRnce of Om > manner that-the jjj ) endn > ent ba 4 been disposed of , by tbe turn th * t . was gWni to t * h p buVject by carrying the rjjrevious cji ^ ti ^ o ,. he . wfluld give in a notice bf motion , for tp-mprrdw , "' i- riibracrug , the the amendment which h » 3 beeji lost by a side Hind .
  
  , POSTPONEMENT OF THE N ^ tTlQN . AL ^ fJITJO . N . * &Ir . . PtTKETHLV , wbi'egiving in the « ignatnre < i of 1 , 120 people of tb « Tower Hamlet * in favoorpf the NationalPetition , h-ouIJ take the liberty tn ask of the committee what was tbe stats of the Petition t Now that tho time was at hand for presenting the petition , it was necessary that they should have every arrangement made in the idimI efleotual maiuier , in order to produce a feeling in it ' s"f avour ., ( Hear . ) Mr . WHITTLE said , t » one of ihe tomo ' iitle ' e aPn . iM *? ,-there was no ground for Mr . Carpenter' sa ' y ing ^ that" th ' e Petition would not ba presented on the sitth oC Afay * . [ Hear , heir . ] . ¦ . - ' -,.,,. -. •¦ -u .-i- . Dr . KLETCHER sa ( 4 that * they had no mason to d < jnbtthe freHog of Mr . Kielden ; that gentleman , . ih n U ' W , intijrvjtf * * with him , was as resolved as ev * r to ; support' the PetUifftt . He and the other genllenteu of the Corouitttee . wai't ^ i } , Jjy ^ c pqinttrient 6 n Messrs . Vielden and . Attvyjopd . at th ^ , Exchtqjxar Cr > fTe « -hon 3 e ; tbey de ) ay > d them ' l \ ro habri , otid at th ' fl eiid > 4 that time neither of tbtM * gentietneia ^ pekrfcawUrhWwii aftemard * accouMted . Sot by « aji » g thoiir > a » r diflerdnea'aif
  
  opinion exacted between . , the two M . ^ hers ,: |^ nd ^ WJ , t" ^ y : were srtiving to settlo ' between themselves thia <\ rBerep « e ; before ' they i-hbnld hold the interview with' " tte ' CcWimittVe bf ! the Convk-ntjoji . . . . ; ¦¦ , " ¦¦¦ 7 'UiV . j : r ' 'A resolutiou iJchicH wa »;» nowed to be' fmnigbt ; m' on sm- ' pendiau iifv ^ ba-Stand in ft Order to givrfc th » VetHl p » tV W- ' Kieldfft Jit preifnlation , tea * iin *\ ty wtthdrmifi , ' ^ - ifie ' gni 1 er 8 tandii ) g , th » t the CeromitJeo ^ ou . 14 xepor . » , -t <> -iiiterii ** . f » eaV , * hfiiK * f . K"s ' - , " " " > . - ' . . ' V-v ,-- - > Mr . H " efH «»» lNbTON nahffed in' tett sli ' itHnri YxotoHie Smithfield Working Men ' s Ass , eiation , and aW ' * Wte ' of confidence in the Convention . ¦ - ¦¦ ¦ ri '¦ '¦ ¦ '• ! ni * flyt » " << me »» ion byMr . DtTNCAN , . ' * r . ¦"¦'¦ Mr-BOGtRSgairt tbnt he hid been shown Ihe nn ' o ' iiic * - mea . t in ihe Tfvescoltman newspaper that ^ 18 4 s . had been cx > ntribuiefli » nd paid into the ilJUueof . that pajJB' t but that he , "Mr .-RogvTs , h » d not yet received it , At'er reading the notices of motions nnd letter from Bailie Craig , which stated his intention of continuing ' tne content in Ayrshire , nolurithgtandtig the many oh » t » clt > 8 thtt wan thrown iu hu way by both Whigs and Tories , the meeting dUjolvod .
  
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  freunesdayi May I . Th < j Conventtoa met to-daji Mr . Deegan in the CfcW . - - ' ¦ i ¦ .. - : * The minutes of the last meeting having beeu wa * * Dr . Fletciieu introd&ced Mr . iJmjaldaon as Delegate from Birmingham and neighbouring district * . ,. . ; A dirtcn «*! on ensued as to Mr . Donaldson ' s right to sit for Birmingham ; he ha ^ ng been electe d for Stourbritlpe and snrroHnding districts as well , and some working men of Birmingham having protested against the election . Mr . Donalds ©* claimed to sit for Stourbridge and surrounding places—leaving the question ot Birminghmn open , ( Hear , hear . )
  
  A letter was read from Mr . Craig . w !« y had been elected Member for Ayr by the shovr of hands , though he did not exp ct to be returned . Mr . Colons said that tbe Petition Committee were not ready at prevent to report , owing to « o many petitions coming in without stating where they came from , which gave the committee great trouble , and of course caused delay . Biit the work was going on very well , and he trusted that the report would be made to-morrow . Meantime be might . state that ha had that morning received 50 . 000 . « i « rnatures . ( Hear , hear . )
  
  Mr . O'Connor said a question had been pnt to him as a barrister , with regard to the right of interfering iu tbe training and drilling into corp ? , which w » s going on in Lancashire . Now , be wished that his an » wer should receive as much publicity a » possible ; and it was , that , by an Act of George III ., it was a transportable offence to drill or train companies of men into marching order . Dr . Fletcher said the committee on petitions were not able at preaent to report . Mr . O'Cofciou said he trusted it would be the hVm determination of the Conveution , us he believed it was the general expectation , that the National Petition skould be presented on Monday , even if the Convention were compelled themeelvea to carry it down to the House ol Commons , and beg a Member to present it .
  
  A rerj long"document wa « read by the Secretary on thp condition of the silk weaving trade , shewing the miserublu state of tho workmen engaged on it , who had to work from fourteen to sixteen hours per day for seven or nine shillings per week . Mr . Richardson reported to the Convention the results of his mia . 'ian throughout the northern district * ,, and tUe gratifying reception he had met with at the different towns and villages he had visited . Mr . Fitketblt then moved a vote of thanks to Mr . Richardson , which was carried unanimously . Mr . Gim also reported tbe result of hi ? mission . At Gainsborough he had succeeded in forming a committee for the purpose of obtaining signatures and collecting the national rent . He had met with very little success at Sheffield , in consequence of the opposition of tbe Chartists to the anti-Cora Law party- ,... ¦¦
  
  Oa the motion of Mr . F . O'Connor , a vote of thanks to Mr , Gill was unanimously aefreedto .
  
  * A . V « TABE O » TftK CRARTTBT 9 . Mt : SAN . Ktir , fe tnoving' "fThai" thfe'present mtfTenapiit . b «> ngei » sp » tinlly , Bngiisb ^« i donat having in view any tii / por . 'lical innoya . tiorijj jbpt fi reenrftmee to the K ' r ' st principles df the ' brigiriaf Saxon "Constitution ,. , thi * C ' . 'B ,- » ifl * ucii do deprecate aSy : istiguage < n expression which wopld appear tp ^ imiiUt ^^ our . ob jt'ets to tK ' ose of- ( he French" Revolution , or to take it asonrm » jlel . ^ ' ' ' .. ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦• . ; j .- ' . - .: j \ : > i : <;< - ~\ -.:.. Mr , Coftuwj-seconded the motion ^ .,,. ; ¦ .. ; , - ¦ . . Dr . FurrenEft hoped that JAt Saqkey would ¦ wi thdraw " 'his motion . HW'iomg ' ad rnigHf , ' perhaps , prevent samp personal ob « etv » tii « * « v e * pecmWyTati the question co » V-l liaveno practical efieetjOn tiie buj » ir ne . « s of the Convention . Mr . SAXKEYtheu withdrew"hiambtion . ' ¦'' ¦ ' ¦ ' ¦ ' Sl'fTlNfiS Or THE CONViENTIOJii' ' * '
  
  Mr .. O'Connor then rose to move ** that dtfMjpnd ^ y , the 13 tb . of . May , the ConventioniiisaouJdxJoTii * ' mt'uce holding iu sittings at Bjrminjfhaw . yvAyfi r M } S ( vote that was takenyesterday , itniighf be necessary for him tosay , thst iii mttlwiug thia hirffdn tie dicf libt intend . $ he-Blkh ' v « t dferepjMspt ^ tb , ^ Q « n ventiopfiw jTbBi amendment , Re believed , wasyesterday prp . posed by Mr . Sankey Tinder a niiimp ' prijheiiferbtf , and nis hbi ) ria a btmei rexnk woul 4 a * tiind tb ^ i ^ reeeni motion . Mr . Sankey Iyj , d , ^ te 4 that . hi f teasonjbr opposing the morion yesterday was , ' tnat '* he ( Mr . O'Connor ] had » aid that when they arrived at Birmingham they might call themselves ^ the fountain of all . law . " Mr . Sankey had now had an opportunity of considering the Explanation that he ( Mr . O'Connor ) gave yesterday , and to show the importance he attached to it hewould « tite that if any act of his tended to create a suspicion in Mr . Sankey's mind he would
  
  give his pledge that he would betake himself off to ihe constituents of Mr . Calley at Kirkaldy , and temper his a ^ al with their judgment . ( A laugh . ) Mr . O'Brien had al . < o stated that he was misrepresented yesterday , and he would now have an opportunity of setting himself right . There was no member of th * Convention whose views he would be more unwilling to misrepresent than Mr . O'Brien ' s , who whs a mau that stood high , not only with the Convention , but with the country . The expense that might be incurred was another difficulty thrown ill the 1 » Ry of the motion , bnt be contended that so far fr&m . a'Ui fg . S . oUw ^ iW dimiuJsh the expensed the transmission of Delegates to the simultanepou meeting ^ 'tfiSt' had ne ^ jT 'determined' npon ; another reason it-hy ; hi *) inoti 0 n-had been , lost yesterday was ttje jreat , or a ^ . ter ; p £ . L p ndQ |) Delf ^ ate ? .. # *? ( Mr . O'C . ) knew thnthe hadtocontend against their comcorrrenierfce
  
  ore ana , una it gave mm great Kansfwaiio * tp . iind tbatia greater nnmber of the London tyfRftWP&XfilW&W ' ty ** -. ?* any . other motion before the C 6 nventjoh . ' "M tV ¦•> H ^ 1 ri ^ H * iN «? i o N " - ^ IVhal has that to do wifth&jW . i-j ^ .-i ! vi .-. : ¦/¦ .--., - . Mr . OCp « NOJj—Mr . Hetheringtpn wonld have the- o ^ pirth mty ' pfesen ' tlj ' ' ofshowihe that it had no&todp imt * d it . ] , BnttheLondon men having only tO j . cjome ^ ro ^ thpir . o ^ n h , 9 mes to the Convention every morning since the Convention sat , he thought thw ! m 1 ght'pjtpect them to STnrrender a portion of th ^ irjoony ^ riwncfi tp th ^ t distriot which , on Mr . Carpenter ' s own showing , required their presence . 'F'hW'Lcto'&jn'Delefcifeis'had opposed the motion , in
  
  order 1 tOQarry , ou * t . their own Views . The funds they hadinhand were voted for that Convention , and that Cbri ' yenndh' 6 ' Bgh't tomaVe the most of the funds . The arnUmint " *' uirged yesterday , were no arguments at all against the Convention going to Birmingham . He had selected Birmingham in consequence of the feii&n&iato exist iii Birmingham , and if they went to-.-Birmingham , they would rally round them all those disunited parties into one strong link of strength . He intended no disrespect to any party , arid the only request he had to make was , that Mr . O'Brien wonld allow the question to be discussed on its * own merits .
  
  Mr . O'Brien .- —Does Mr . O'Connor intend , in the event of bis motion being carrifd , that this Convention should come back to London , so as to be present at the time the motion is made in the House of Commons for leave to brirjg in a Bill , embodying the principles contained in tbe Charter ? ' Mr . O'Conkor anticipated that that motion woujd be made and disposed of before the 13 th . If it were not , their presence in Birmingham would better support the further stages of their proceedings . He hoped never to see tbut Convention sitting in
  
  London a day after it left for Birmingham . Mr . Lovett was fearful that if they removed to Birmingham or Manchester before the committee on ulterior measures had reported , it would look , like cowardice , and that they were afraid of discussing the ulterior measnres whictfthat committee might recommend , as he presumed that it would contain some recommendation on the question . ( Hear , hear . ) 11 would , therefore , be his duty , in accordance with what he thought , to move the following amendment : — ¦
  
  ¦¦ " That we continue to hold onr sittings in London until after the presentation of the Petition to Parliament , and till after the Convention shall have come to some vote fespectins the introduction ol the People ' s Charter to Parliament ; and that it be au instruction to the committee appointed to devise measures , to propose to the simultaneous public meetings to fix on the time and placs for tbe re-assembling of the Convention alter Hit ? said meetings . " Mr . Bukxs seconded this amendment in a few words .
  
  Aftera discussion of some hours Mr . O Connor replied , upon which the amendment of Mr . Lovett wa * put , and negatived by a majority of seven . Mr . O'Brien Drought forward hia amendment , merely recapitulating the whole » t the arguments of both "day V discussion on the subject of the adj 6 Brnmf * rit . The amendment wa * ,. ' 'That ' tmtil aftertfuyTfJebple ' ** demands of the National Petition and the People's Charter shall have been aabnaitted to ^/ lna / a ^ ci dedrHpon by the Legislature } itiathe 3 ^ iy " ftf , 'tbi ^ "C onvention to continue iu sitliugs in London Y bnt in the event . of the LegislatBte ; rej ^ ct ^ ourd ^ piano >» this Convention is of opinion that > U sittings tniifVt forthwith ta be remoted to BircntAgbam or fi < Un , ch * ster ; that we do hereb y rtfcolre that we will make Birmiaghs . m or Mnncfaeste'f the
  
  scene , M « lierwn wewill enter upon the diecussibn < A ulteriormeasnrta . " . . ^ ; , .. , ; , . M » The « mffadiBent « raiseconded by Mr . J . TA"viyO « . Mr . Hetherinoton proposed that the last words cefenangrto-ulteria * " measures be utrnck ont , which was agreed to by Mr . " O'Brien , upon ¦ wh ichf the v « te , w « fa : pu . t-anthe amendment , and carried by a majority of three . » - ¦ - - * wt '» ty * d « ed * for Mr . O"Bnen ' s ameodment , and « ei < An ^ en 4 b > t " he Original resolution . ) Mr . ' © 'Co » rt » irjiRi : H io criler that the country might be aware ot , the [ peelliori which they held , and in order that- therd might he no misunderstanding as to what thay intended to do in fawre , woold move as an Amendment oh Mr . O'Brien's amendment , that the Convention assemble "bi Birmingham on the 20 th May ; if this were not done , the country
  
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  yronld imagine tbey were Jejfcjrinjned- ' '•*« i 9 (^ time their sittings in London to an insen ' mtenertod . Mr . BtrasET- * Dpe « Mr " . O'Connor recojfeot iffia ^ on Monday , the 20 tb , will be held the si ; 'bl t' ^ aeoos meetings ? ' ' ¦ ' . ' •• - MnU'Cwtten forgot tbat , bbt itt ofdef thif tti « question might be settled , he wonld sbapeit that th ^ y might assemble in Birmingham as soon as thesrmnl ranaous meetings had been held through ( he country ; and that Mr . Collins and Mr . Pitkethly shoald proceed to make such arrangements for the assefc * filing of the Convention there , and for the personal accommodatibn o : the De \ eg&Us as might seem ca them advisable . '
  
  The Cn . 4 iHM . iN decided that Mr . O'Connor ' s amendment could not be pnt , upon which that gen- * tleman gave it" in a » notice of a substantial motion tor to-morrow , upon which the names were called over , aud after the daily vote of thanks had been given to Mr . Deugan for his conduct in the chftir , the meeting dissolved .
  
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  Public'Meeting . — In this small village we had a glorisua meeting on Saturday evening , April 27 th . At . the time appointed for tbe meetiBg taking place tie people came together in procession —about 4000 from New Mills ; 1000 . froai Gtos-Hup ¦ 1 QQ 0 from . Hyde j and another procession from Stpckport j with bands of music , fla ^ s , anJ banner * accoTHpanying each procession ' . "When they arrived at-Marpie Bridge they all proceeded to tbe pl-ace of uieetbg ; ., there * trold , not be lew tbttn 8000 persons present . Mr , John B iley was called , to tke chair , and the ' following ' resolutions were unanimousl y ; carried :-1 st- ' " " That this meeting -viewa ' witi *
  
  indignation the tyrAiinic and oppressive lawp , which the present GoverDcoeat of tjbis country wishes to impos < e upon ' the people of this country , and we pledge ourselves to oppose the introduction of any such law from whatever body it may emanate . " - — 2 nd . " That this meeting , having the must implicit ; confidence in the General Convention pftheworkiog elafftw , pledgeg itself to Support ( "iiat Convention to the utmost of our ability boch morally and physically , and that we adept the National Petition and tba People's Charter , '' The above meeting wa * addressed by Messrs . T . Benton and J . Fenton , of Stalybridge j J . Bradley , of Hyde ; T . Kaye , of Glossyp * and several other gentlemen of that neighbourhood , who spoke of tbe sufferings of the people , and'pointed out some of the remedies to « be applied . A very good spirit seemed to prevail
  
  throughout the meeting . The people are determined to obtain their rights or die in the attempt . The Whigs and Tories here have bad a preponderating influence over the people ; and now that tfcey have found that thtir influence is falling , tbey have had recourse to their old trick « , aud have hired some of their tools to pull dpwn the papers thatgare notice of their meeting—kui they would give a shilling for every paper thew polled down as a reruunerationfor their labour . They thought to put down the meeting ,, or at least to , intimidate the speakers ; but , however , they > er « altogether disappointed is their anticipation , for the speaker * spoke our , so that no one could - mistake what tbey were aiming at , and we call on all our fellow-men , but more parricutarly th « " labouring part of the population of this p , > untry , to arise and do their own work , for they are well able * .
  
  KENDAL . Working Men ' s Association . —At a general meeting 6 f the Kendal Working Men ' s Association , heJd at-the Ship Inn ,, on Saturday last , it was unaairnousl x . resolved—" . That the best thanks of this ., Association are due , and are hereby given , to FeaVguS O'Connor ,. Esq ., for his . manly and energetic * conduct towards- the industrious classes upon all ; occasion * , v Particularly for hi » etreEUotM exertiorj ^ on , behalf of , tbe per » eeuted Dorchester and Glasgow Unionists ; . for his manly stand against the ty ' lr&nny' - 'bf the administrators of that uHconstitutional-aBd diabolical enactment , called the Poor Law Amendment Bill ; for his generous conduct
  
  and animated zeal in support of that persecuted anti-Pbor Law agitator , the Rev . J . B- Stephens . Bet more especially for the benefit he has conferred upon the public ia general , and the working classes in particular , by establishing a faithful chroniclethe Northern Star , which dares to meet corruption in the face , and lay open to public view the dark and unhallowed deeds of the tyrant aBd oppressor of the poor . Lastly ( not lea » t ) for his unremitting attention to the best interests of the unrepresented ( and consequently enslaved ) millions , in the General Convention . " Resolved unanimotwly— tl That tbe foregoing resolution be communicated to the Northern Star and Kendal Mercury ?'
  
  ¦ aSHTON . Stkphens ' s Central Committee , —A meeting was ht-ld on Tuesday evening , April 30 th , at the Bush Inn , Ashton-under-Lyne , of the Central Committee appointed to direct the subscriptions and other affaire connected with Mr , StephetW ' s defence The following resolution ? were pagsed unanimously : — i . " That every city , town , village , or hamlet , or any other place , or person who Hiay have collected any sum or sums of money for defraying the expense of the Rev . J . ' B . Stephens's trial , do immediately remit the same to Thomas Fielden , Esq ., of
  
  the firm of Fielden and Brothers ,. Petl-street , Manchester ; or , to , ' Mattbew Fletcher , E- q . ^ of Uuionsqu&re , Bory ^ i . Bncashire . ; or to either of them , for the Defence Fund of the Rev . j . B . Stephens — 2 . " That it is the intention of ^' "tn ' TiJ Cf . ihmlttee' to publish on the 25 th of this month ( Muy ) a &ll account of all monies pajdy . JBto ^ e . hands of . the General Trrasurers for . tha defence q ; Mr . J . R . Stephens . No monies can . b ' e ' publ&b ' ea on ' tuis date received after the ^ ftthof thifrmfthth . ^' —All ooramunicationis to be addressed ] ito , Timothy Higgins ,. Secretary . ^ ¦ DEiffrro **^ . ¦ '" :: " ' ' ' -
  
  Three lectures have been delivered here on three successive Sunday nights , by tie folbWing persons from Ashton : —1 st . Mr . Win . Aitkin , on the prtsent state and prospects of society . Sad . Rt . r . John Wilde , on the Briti « h Conatitadon and the Charter , 3 rd . Mr . Timothy Higgins , oa Democracy . These lectures have been attended with the most signal success . A Radical Association has fcei « i funned , and Denton is now likely to be fpremosj ; in the race of preparation for the ensuing struggle *
  
  DEWSBUB . Y . The Stephens Persecutiox .- —Altvfnri ) e seen from an advertisement elsewhere that IVJr . Hill is to preach two ^ erraons for Stephens , at Ddfcwbury , on Sunday . ¦ -,- .-., - ¦ . ¦ Radical Dinner . — "We understand that the radicals of Dewwbury hare arranged for a PiibUa Dinner at the Wellington Tavern , 6 n . Monday , "in honour of the presentation of ; the National Petition . " We : perceive from i the .. ' . announcement that dinner is to be on the table at seven o ' clock , and that this in the last day of issuing tu-. ket « , which are to be bad from the landlord or from Mr . Samiiel Healey . ' . ,,, . "MIDDEESTOWN .
  
  The Chartjsis and theib Victory . —On Monday evening ls * t , s very numerous meeting for the purpose of explaining the principles of the People ' s Charter aad for the furthering of tbe cause of freedom , was held at Middlestown ; a broad stone wall , about a yard and a half high , serred for the hustiugs . Mr . Charles Halroshaw , late of Middiestown , but now of Dewsbury , was . called to the chair , whtn he opened the business of the meeting in a very able manner ; afier which he introduced Mr . William Wilbyj of Dewsbury , who proceeded io . explain the object * of the Charter and the benefits that would , be / derived from it , it it were to become the law of ihe laud-, when he had spoke '' -for about
  
  ten or fifteen minutes , a blackguard , well known in the neighbourhood , came and pushed bim to the ground , and had . it not been for the persona wha were standing underneath , he would have been , severely bnrti Thtfcowardly rnffians , who had been employed , we understand , by Lord Wh « rnelihV « tptt ? nts > then began to shout and bellow worse than the howling of wild beasts , while they were so engaged Mr . Santtiel Hteley , of Dewsbtiry , came forward , whose Stentorian ; lungs drowned the howl-U > g o ^ :, tbe tfbtw « $ into , ni » thi " pgn «« s ., ; They , were afterward * addressed by Mr . Severs , of Huddewfield , ; and Wt . ^ ofa Tff £ ighr of t 5 « wit ; after whieh
  
  w « w « S ^' , *» pa /» je <}; j | j , ;' .: . inwt pea / seaWe and ordeilyjiuanner , tbedttttirWt oi ttie peace being '' ,.- ; . ¦^ % '> C \ 7 ^ MJ ^^ J ^ ' u ,, / , [ l- ' r . ! ..-., t Railway Acciu'EH'f . ^ Oa'ytt ' BsdaylMt , oneof * W ^ W ^ W&WW ? ' * m& 9 @i ; -Wh * B eogaged the line oj road on the Nqrlatfd ' side of the Railway miwrforniiD ^ Beitr'ixt Ei « d 9 and JfanchMt « ri was Trori . ' wer by ^ xinw o ^ thenwiiggon * ' * nd had jblsWrbroke ^^ . ;; : ^ : ^ , ^ , ^ ^ ..,.. / .. ¦ . JSlWrAp 9 r . pnNT > -TA boyiempteyed in Hartlej ' a Mill , NortA ' na ; near thi 8-io wn ; lhla ' tts leg broke on Toesday last , by-a « i * k oi oiffoUing over it in the m'll . , - ( ,, "i- '; : ¦ ,. ¦¦ - >
  
  A Man Killed on the Railway . —One of the men employed on " th " * r Manchester and Leeds railway , Bear Sdwirtby BrWgej « & « rifn «* er by oee of the waggoD 8 , op ^^ Mondaj >> st . a » d , kiilp ( i pfl tb . e . spot . ACClDtNT At ' J RADCLIFFK ' S MlLU — At tbl * milt ob TuVaday llter , erie bf » * Ae tefen engaged m unloading s cartfet , what . « called West Ewf MM , ? o verhv . n-, < r Halifax , had the raisfortuneto break one of his legs .
  
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