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      NATIONAL CONTENTION . Ttw body asembled on Monday , at ten o ' clock in the Lwga Ball of the . Parthenium Rooms , St . jlartin ' s-lane . At this hour but few . Delegates had arrived , and business wa * not entered : into until eleven o clock ; at which hour Mr . John Shaw was called to the chair , and ; briefly ojened the business o f the Convention , .: , ., ¦ ¦ -. - Mr . RKSOtDsmdvea , and Mr ! FwuasecoHded the Domination of Mr . J . Arnott as Secretary . Credentials were then handed in from G . W . M . Reynolds , for Greenwich and Kent . John Gray , - Nortfi-lAncashire . Thornton Hunt , Portsmouth . lifted Hunuiball , Marylebone and West ! I ^ IONALCONyENTIO ^ . ¦

      . _ ,, „ „ minster . George Shell , Surrey . - ¦ John Shaw , Tower Hamlets . James Finlen , Finsbury and City A . Kobinson , Bradford . Thomas M- Wheeler , Exeter anil Tiverton G . J . Mantle , Manchester . * Thomas Savage , Bristol district George J . Harney , Worcester ditto William Benfold , Stockport . Ernest Jones , Halifax district JamesCapewell , Hanley ditto John Bear , Sheffield ditto * . ^ n- ^? T anSO n ' Paisley ditto . ' William Felkm , Nottingham . The above credentials hating been received Mr Ernest Jones handed in £ 2 Us fronSSc , for the Convention Jund ; Mr . Shaw lOsTfromthe S wr L * " ** other « M « T £ gnen fox the above purpose . . The Secretary then proposedthafollowingbuainess arraugements . vi 2 .: That the Conference as-Bemble at nine , adjourn at half-past twelve o ' clock , reassemble at two o ' clock , and adjourn at five o clock .

      Mr . Wheewh moved , that the Conference meet at ten o ' clock , adjourn at one , re-assemble at two oclock , and adjourn at five o clock ; which was carried . . . "" . "' . ' . ' , It was then decided that the mover of a resolution or amendment shonld be allowed twenty miantes , and each other -speaker ten minutes , and thai : each motion should be handed up to the Chairman in writing . . ' ¦ ¦ ¦ - ¦ • • ' On the motion of Mr . Mamie , seconded by Mr . IIcsxjbaix , the-members of the Executive who ¦ were not ' elected as Delegates were , requested to take their se ' ats at the Convention , but without ¦ votes . . .. - . • . . ¦¦ — ¦¦ -. ' / Correspondence was then read firom the Oldham district , stating their inability . to . send a delegate ^ and inclosing funds for the Convention ; and also from an individual at Cambridge . . . T ¦ ' ¦ ' . ¦ ¦

      On the motion of Messrs . Wbkeleb aad Grat , Messrs . Arnott , Harney , and Reynolds , were appointed a Committee to review , all correspondence . On the motion of Messrs . WnEELEaand Gbat , a Committee , consisting of Slessri . Mantle , Bezer , Gray , Robinson , Felkin , Capewell , and Hunniball , were appointed to investigate a disputed election case at Glasgow , and . such others as might occur . The Delegates then gave in their reports . Mr . Retkolds stated that a fine health y feeling prevailed among Ms 'Chartist ' . cpnstituentB in . the county of Sent . He could not boast ' that they were great n numbers . The teason ' ' ny . Chartism had

      not penetrated into the agricultural districts of that county was , that the Law of Primogeniture was not there in operation . Land was greatly sub-divided . The agricultural population were better paid and more contented than in any other county in England . The state of that county was a great argument in favour of their doctrines , ' and showed the good effect of improved institutions .- * His constituents at Greenwich , Woolwich , and other towns in the conn ty were enthusiastic , and devoted id their adherence to " the cause , and were in favour of an agitation for their Social Rights , concurrent with that of the Charter . :-..

      Mr . Ghat , stated that his constituents in Xorth " Lancashire were as devoted as ever to the cause of Chartism , but owing to the apathy prevailing throughout the kingdom , they confined their exertions chiefly to their own" domestic circles . ' In Colne , great poverty prevailed among the handloom weavers . They had discussed the Executive programme , and approved of it with some additions . They were in favour of the . " Convention considering the question of Co-operation . The same feeling in all the towns

      prevailed in that district , more especially itf Baoupi where a flourishing store existed , and they believed it might prove" an effectual lever in the cause ot democracy . ' . Bis district believed that something more , than the voluntary system was necessary to support the organisation . He believed that Co-operation' was the link that would bind them together .--Bis constituents thought that an organisation similar to that of the Odd Fellows and others / would prove an' addition to the present system . '" . ' . '' .: "

      Mr . Thobstos Host stated that in the county of Hampshire , though there was but little Chartism existing , vet the bulk of the population were fully prepared to enter into a well organised political organisation . The same might be' said of WUtsinre . The want of large towns itf that district prevented , in some degree , " - an efficient agitation for the Charter ; means could , however , be taken to render the agitation attractive . - Mr . HossraAU . stated that great apathy existed in the district of London which , he represented .

      Party bickerings and quarrels had tended to produce this result " His constituents were in favour of an agitation for Serial Rights , and considered the Labour question , and the distribution of wealth to be questions of paramount importance . They were tired of the mere' alphabet of political reform ; Mr . Shell said that in Lambeth ' they were not so well organised as they had been some years back * bntan enthusiastic feeling prevailed among those who still continued their support , and they looked with anxiety to the course that would . be adopted bv the Convention . " ¦ ¦ --

      Air . J . Jsuaw reported from the Tower Hamlets . " Great poverty existed among the weavers and shoemakers in his district The " feeling relative to Co-operatiun was a divided one ; some looking upon it with great approbation ;—others were too steeped aipotertyto be able to avail themselves of any benefits to be derived from it . Thev" also thought flat great good mi ght be effected by an agitation among the Trades of the Metropolis , and thought snmltaneous meetings throughout the country wrald be an effectual means of raising a great feeling in support of . the principles they were in favour of . :: - ' ¦ ¦ ¦ One o ' clock having arrived the Conference adionrned .

      . Afternoon Sitting . At two o ' clock the Conference re-assembled . The whole of the Delegates answered to their names on tLe roll beine called . Messrs . Frith and Martin were then appointed Doorkeeper and Messenger at the usual salary . The Election Cemmittee then gave in their report relative to the Glasgow election case , and stated that from the evidence they bad received they bad decided that Mr . Paul was duly elected .. On . the motion of Mr . Wheeler the" report was received . Mr . T . Hcsi hanaed . in credentials from Edinburgh , and stated that be expected a colleague to arrive from that district . . —o -

      Correspondence was then read from Bristol , commenting upon the past policy of the Cnart ' ut movement , and after dwelling upon the present phase of we movement , recommended that the Chartist organisation shonld be kept distinct from anv ' Social movement - ' ,..... A discussion then took place relative to the funds to be subscribed to the Convention Fund . Many negates spoke upon this subject Mr . Wheeleb recommended that the delegates Ebonw endeavour to get their localities to subscribe ^ largel y a 3 possible ; the utility of the Convention *< wto , m a great measure , depend uf on the funds Placed at its disposal . Mr . Mastle stated , that many of the districts * ere very poor , and had heavy expenses to pay ttey were willing , but poverty . did not allow them , » F monetary gifts , to show their enthusiasm . lae reports were then resumed ' re

      . IeYL , ^ P ° rted '"" a **» City of London . ™ s instructions were , in favour of an agitation for S ' many way , mix themselves up in any . ««\ . for a Iess measure of reform than the ir ? P « » Charter . He had another instruction fam i 2 H& J * * a 8 mile » ' ***• P » ps , I * wong hffsuperfluous-that they should endeavour to «« te hatred and disgust against the truckling * J « em adopted by Lord John Russell and his cot Com ' s was ako iaBtnicted to advise the terin * - On to abstaiD i as far as possible ,-from eng ] ° " ^ toany personal questions in their discus * aZtT" measnres of general policv .- Principles , f t : " !? en , were the guides they should look to . t on - " ^ w requested to refer to a local quesihsZ ' J tbeExeantive should take a hall I am ?? ccnlral situation-it could be done at the i tucir

      tomtit " >»» u mr . uicstiic uuice . nia « ochiriw were in faTOnr of the agitation for i n ; Uts concurrent with their political rights . fctonrrtrT ? ^ ted . ttat his constituents were in PO'itiL a B ? OTemen t being kept in & high moral * av dw tbat '" temperance should be in every sent F « f !? " The * ««« in f « 0 OT rftbe preade&iito " re I *" ? continued in office , and that *> r Z , ? should lc laid dOTn t 0 bB sntBcribed ;« a « S 2 S ? Theyrecommendedale'yof 3 d . | ^ ntials were then received from I g-J «« , Coventry . ^ -0 Connor , Manchester . Mr ( ' w *» Xortfaampton . K % Leicester . Nier ' w )«^ ! trePortedfronlExeterand Twerton . pVsS ^ Tour , of < he agitatioa fcr the Peo * S Charter being kepj distinct fa ® &y ufax

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      SaWfeem ! " ^ W * ^ Mr . F . O'Coskor stated that his constituents SRSEffiSaBSt ^ -- ** £ a ^^ j * BSK-is ; toat the course he shpuid take in that Convention m ™ ffT ^ V *™ m \ friends . The raZS "'^ P ^^^ not aRed Republican , S ^ , ^ economics , were . a subject of SSJa ^ ^ la ? y ' ' were fc-frwor of turning A-nglaud into a" great cheeBe . and bacon shop" - ^ " ^^ opposed to it . They , . in Manchester , were . entirely opposed to neraonal hickarinaRamnn ^ g notoppp ^ g Witt BS

      tueirleaders . If these lasted any longerfthe cori ^ sutuents who elected him would cease their coatexion . with such a suicidal" ; party . Relative to the question of the Parliamentary Reformers , they thought thai it . shquld ; be left an open question , for each individual member to act according to their respectiv . e judgments . They , should look to their , own business ,, and attend toathat * leaving other partks to" follow a similar line of policy . The question of , Social Rights waB . 'he feared , one which would prove destructive to the unanimity of feeling which at present prevailed in the ' Conference . "Hejruated that a conciUatorv policy would be adopted . ' -.: .. *

      A deputation wa 3 then received from the London Association of Working Tailon , 432 , Oxfordstreet . I . ' .., , ¦' .-- .:. " ..

      Mr . Bekkt was heard on behalf of the deputation ; and after congratulating the Exeoutive on their advocacy of Soeial . . . Rights , read ; an-address from his , body to the Convention , giving m their adherence to the great principle offreform , 88 propounded in the Peoples Charter , and expressing a hope that they would pursue the same policy which 1 the Executive . had so , wisely adopted . -, < ¦ ¦ > Li « •' Mr . Masile moved , and Mr . , ' Capewbij , seconded , a resolution , expressive of thanks to the deputation , and assuring them . that every effort of the Convention would be directed to ensure-their social emancipation and political salvation . r . ' • • . : '

      : On the motion of . Mr . E . ^ ones , a simple vote of thanks was given io the- deputation . . He was not anxiona to commit the Convention by-any , expres- ' non-of opiniod upon " the question of Social Rights ; , Mr ,. G . J . Habnet jepprted from Worcestershire and Gloucestershire . ~ He was not acquainted , personally with , the . . district V-bufc his communications informed him , that great apathy existed .: They . were in favour of the Charteribeini i made the great leadyig question of thp . ni 9 ven \ ent . ] They also were in favour , of ahyl honest , attempt . to improve , the present Laws of Partnership , and advised , that a deputation ahOQld ' . waU upon the Pariiament « ry

      Reformers , to see if they . ; won | d honestiy join in . the agitation for the Chartej ,, or if they would consent to the calling ; pf aTJfetional . Convfcntion to settle that 'disputed qHestion ..-, .. .. . ;; . , „] . _ r : -: -: T" Mr . Sataoe reported that his constituents : were entirely opposed ' to any humbling to the Parliamentary Reformers ... They would receive-theif : adhe- " sioa if they . would come to ' them , but wer ^ opposed to courting or coquetting with them . , ; - ¦ Mr . E . Joxjjs . stated that his constituents werein favour of the Executive . Programme , withtbeaddition of the Xatio ' nalisatioa of the . Landi- They were also in lavour of' a" General and Liberal Convention Fund .: ' ; . .. . v , " . " ; , ; . . : . ;¦ - -. ^ ; :. ; -..., . :,.. : ¦ ¦ .,. The Rev . A . B 0 NCA 5 S 0 N reported from Falkirk . They d ^ lored the division among the leaders ,- it had . inflicted great injury upon the cause . If leaders . fell . qat , they should find some other medium than Ithe public press to ' arrange their , disputes . He was sorry , to hear such desponding reports . He thought that the faculty of hope was rather deficient in nianyof . t iiedelegates . ' .. J ,, . = ¦ . ..:...,, , . ; ' ; Mr . FEuax ' stated that they were not bo strong in Xbifcinghanasbire as they had been , and had been much , occupied in Trades ' agitation ., j ,. ;• ¦¦ : ¦ Mr . CAPEWBiisaiii , , that . in , thb Potteries they were in favour , of the agitation for the , Charter being kept distinct . 'from . any other movement

      , leaving any individual open to give his opinion upon any Social question . ,. .... , . . v ,... , Mt . 'IBbzee said that the ' instructions he had received were , that the association should offer . no obstruction to the propounders of any other , move- ' merit ,, leaving individuals ' to ( act according to their owniudgm ^ nt :. They were , in favour , if . the funds allowed , of appointing leeturew , they not being members of the Executive Body . ' .. >¦• • ; . ' „} & . ¦? AB s ? E 8 t « ted that his constituents deplored the evils wtych dissension had created among them and . he was 16 bpppse any recurrence of such a false policy . They were m , favour of a . national petition , with the names and addresses of the parties to be attached . - : . . r

      Mr . WaAT said that they were-very ^ iaorganised in Leicegtershire , and ha was sorry to say , that wneo trade . was . good , they , thought but little of their pqJitcal rig h ^ i ; . ' They thought that a better fystem of organisatrdn mi ght be adopted . - Mr : Bbsfo . u > sajd . his copstituents . were in favour of a better . Byetem of . organisation . s They , were for the agitation for the ; . Char ^ er .. being . kept distinct fro ™ any other movement . . They w ^ ere also ; in favour of the adoption of a non-obstructive policy , and of a . system .. " of propagandism . by means of tracts * . *' .,. . ¦ , * . " . On the motio ' n of Messrs . Mastie and Johbs , the Conference then adjourned , j The attendance ; pf Visitors was rather numerous , and great interest seemea to . be taken in the nroi ceedinga . . ' ...

      •• -: TUESBAI .. The Convention resumed its sittings at ten o ' clock ; Mr .. John Shaw . in the chair . Credentials were , given in from the following gentlemen : — " ¦ - D . W . Ruffy . ¦ ., - . South Shields district ; S Thoaias Hurst ,. ,: * Huddersfield ditto . "Walter Pringle , . Edinburgh'ditto . ••'•'• - '••'• James Graham , Dundee ditto . ' John Moss ,... Derby ditto . James Watson , 3 fewcastle-upon-Tyne . Reports were then resumed . ' " Mr . Taxes reported from . Coventry . They were in favour of Social as well as Political Reform . Mr . D . W . Ruffs stated ; that < his only instructions were relative to . the employment of lecturers or missionaries . . ^ : . t

      Mr . "W . Pbisole said his only instructions were to allay all ill feeling among their leaders . The spirit of democracy was spreading , though great apathy existed . They were in favour of an agitation for the Charter and something more . - The calling of the Convention had created a great degree of interept . " . . " , Mr . Hbrsi stated that they had been very apatheticin Huddersfield since 1848 . His instructions were to amalgamate an organisation for Social and Political Reform . . , . J • ' Mr . 3 . Graham stated that the divisions among the leaders of the Chartist body bad been deeply deplored in his district . His constituents were for Social as well as Political Reform ; ' . They haii ' also instructed him to give something of a . move practical shape to the agitation ; They were opposed to any junction with the Parliamentary Reform Association . . . ' ..-

      • Mr . J . Moss stated that the" attempt to mix up Social questions with that of the Suffrage had done g 1 ?« '" Derby di 8 t"et , and had greatly reduced the numbers oftheir members . He was to ^ "W P ^ to nMBB ^ dektr oy the ill feeling which had prevailedampng their leaders . . " ¦ Mr O'Cowor stated that having given in their reports , they should now . endeavour to do away with all cause for dissatisfaction . He was not opposed to the mixing up of Socialism with Chartism , provided they understood what Socialism meant . He understood by Socialism . the fitness of things to society . He was opposed to anythingof a religious nature being mixed up with the agitation . He was therefore opposed to Corrimunism . He did not believe that there was a true Communist in existence , —oriewilliug to carry out his principles to their full extent . If they banished . all personal contentions they would have great effect upon tbe

      government . . He implored them to be united , and not to mix up any " ism" with Chartism . Lord John Russell bad intimated bis intention of bringing forward some measure of reform . They must not expect to receive any beneficial measure from government . He was pleased to see the unanimity that prevailed upon the question of not joiulng the Financial Reformers . .. . Mr . Watsos having arrived ,-handed in his credentials from . Newcastle-upqn-Tyne , and reported the state of feeling in that district . Democratic principles we ' re never" better known or respected , hut there was a lamentable want of organisation . Hewa&iastrueted to press that subject upon the notice of the Convention . ' "Ho was also expressly desired to take any steps which would allay thfi jealousies existing among their leaders . ' They were m favour of au union' of tne Social and Political iietormers . ¦ .

      ^ Correspondence was read from Bolton and various otner places . : - Messrs . RsisotDsand 0 'Cok . tob moved and seconded , « That tickets of admission be toSfi to the various Daily Newspapers . " Some discus- ' sum tiok pace on this question , which was ultimately carried . ' Mr . Masilb moved , and Mr . Rom seconded " That Messrs . Arnott , HunnibalJ , and Finlen be appointed a committee to procure delegates' to attend at the various Metropolitan meetings . " Carried . Mr . Robinson said he was instructed by his constituents to make a motion relative to the . Temperance cause , which he accordingly did , ' . but tbe motion was not seconded . ' .

      The Convention then went into the consideration of The Executive Programme ^ Mr . E , Jones stated that he was deputed by his brethren to lay their programme More tfem .

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      JSJi fft « Ht attention in -fitting their measures to the present suta-of the agitation in 955 ft ? Somethi ? g ^ s wanted to press the S » m \™?^ ° 8 ? ly to ,. the heaws of the people . They had erred uVtninking that tlie" mere tf-n ° > for abstract political rigbfs without idenrS « fh » T r P rese nt ^ efieia ^ esuit 8 , would ever rou « e the feelings of the workingolass tothenecessary height , to eaua itheu to put forth ' their dormant energies . .. _ Mr . E . Jokes then read the programme of the Executive , ( which has been already published , ) and moved its reception . ¦ ¦ ¦ - : ¦ ¦ ' ¦*¦ " M

      • Mr . F . 0 Cossor said he was opposed to that portion of the programme which stated that soldiers were necessary for the support' of their colomea-they had no right to force soldiers upon " their . colonies . The : colonies , would ; be far . more nourishing were , they independent of , the mother couutry . The abolition of a poor law should also be : inserted . It ' was , a most valuable . document , and : he seconded th ' o motion for its reception . , .. '" . : Mr .-E . Jones gave some explanations relative to the subjects mooted by Mr . O'Connor . . r The programme' was then received , and ordered to be imipediately printed . . - . ¦' . ' v > ¦ ¦ ¦ - ¦ ¦ ' Some disou 88 ion took plnce relative to the delay that would be occasioned by . the printing , and . it wa » decided that the Convention should proceed to discuss the first clause in the interim . . . ' ,. ¦ ¦ . . .-,.: ' Chartist Policy and Organisation .

      Mr . Ersbst- Jo » bs then read the first clause as follojra : — " The . ; paramount duty of a Chartist National Convention is , to . promote Chartist''Organisation , to keep that organisation distinct from erery ; other ' political mjpvemeni or " alloy , and to spread through all classes " political and ' . social knowledge-to the ' utniokt ' of its power . " It is , ' therefore , recD ' mmehded that for thebettor reorganisation- of Chartism ; the following resolution , le . adopted relative , to political agitation : — " That since . b ^ each and . all the franchise measures now beforetihe people ! excepting that embodied , in the CtiMtcr , the . middle .. rfass would gain . far . more voteB . thah tbe wdrking classes would obtain ^ which would . place thelatter in a more powerless position than , at present . The Charter must be agitated for . ip its-intirityi ' That thff omission' of " any SMll ^' 8 ™ 111 * P « r the utility of the remainder andthat therefore

      ; ; , , popular ' suppdrt must be witbheldfrom all . . franchise measures falling short of . its , provisions .-,. •• .. .. ,, ;¦ ,. ; : ' ¦ » ., ' ¦ f * r- jFinlesmoved ,. andMr . Watsonseoonded , a motion for itsadoptidn . \ ] . ... ; . m .. MaktoI could not agree with" the resolution " their , present * eak position , ' it was an act of iuicideto ^ amy'the ' miadle class' against the " . working-class , vflc / admitted the ' truth" of the whole resolution , , but be thought it would' embitter against them , the true-hearted of the middle class . = r flf ?? ^ ? '& »> & men in the ^ world who did X ^^ y . tQ the .. . 8 ame ; length as themselves , l ^^^ d . . <> iion , however , erroneous ,, that good . resHlts wou d ppring from a middle , class agitation . . for a portion of the Charter' ; He' " did not want , to . hand 6 ver the movement or [ the ' organisation . to any . other class . He" * heWH-thJ ? + wl

      might placefixactly tbe same views upon record without its being done in so offensive a-form He WT- - by ' moi [ in ? theWowing amendment \ - ¦¦ fi £ * . Bjnceallthefranchise measureS i exceptthat « f Jh ' ^ 7 fore the public ,, come short of ^ hat ^ rincip-le of representation which is neoessar ^ to a Hay for ever the . hostilities of class , it is hedqtyof all / classes , whose interests areinvblvea m the conservktion of public peace , to . ' strengthen their . seyeralmovements" by referring the national government to the legitimate legislation of the na ' npnat will .. : _ , ; .. . , , ; ... i . > . ¦ , ¦ ¦ •¦ . ¦ y- b-- - -.- ' -. ' Mr . DojicissoH seconded the amendment . A strong feeling preyailfed upon , that , subject in s ™ k i

      » M .: ., 4 ie believed that neither the middle or working classes were able to . work out . their own eman-Cipation , and therefore they . saould ' adopt a conciliatorypolicy . - ' ¦'¦ - i : J ¦ ¦ ' - •¦ ' " •' .. " - • " . ; Mr .. GBAHAMsaid ; thatMr . Duhcansonmnstonly sneak for his own district . ' The part of Scotland that he came from ,. if polled , would almostto a man ¦ vote fpr the resolution . The middle : class -were the most bitter among . their opponents ., : > ; ¦ : .- $ ?• Gbat stated , ; his . constituents were entirely in favour of the sentiments in the resolution . . Mr . 0 Cosnor was in favour of the resolution . He should ' be glad if the middle classes would honestly , unite with them v but they ' never would their interests were opposed . If they joined them ' , . toey . would ibe treated- only as tools and puppets had

      He alwaysi opposed working men uniting with other booies i letthera be united among themselves , and they could < Jq ^ w . ithout , the aid ; of Others He advised , ; them to ' attend , their .. Wetings ,, as , they couM thereby avairthemserves of large places of meeting , and a different audience , to what thev usually had . - ' < i : ' - ' ¦ ' ; ?¦ ' ¦ •'¦ " ¦'' '" i '• ¦• • " l # ' ' . ^ tr . , % T 80 H ; ^ Pressed similar sentiment ' s , as also did MeRsrs . Savaoej Shbil , and Besfold ' ¦ Mr . MASiLB explained that he did not wish them to join themiddle , claS 8 ,. or in any way . impair , the emciency . of their organisation , , AU he wished was . WLfottpetn tP . iPfult thg feedings ; and sympathies of the honest portion of the middle class , whifib , in his opinion , the resolution did . "' : ' " ..-iMnHussiBAM , ' thought it waswp ' rso than a waste pf time to appealto the sympathies of the middle . olass . . If they were honest . i n their professions ,, they . would .. have . long , before joined with the people ; so long as they lived upon the wages of the forking men , , 80 , long . would they be opposed to the true interest . of the . workipg man . . . Mr . p . W . ; : Rpm ' deniedthat the resolution

      _ threw any insult upon the middle class . ' He had no faith in the professed sympathy of ' that body He thought their true position was to continue strictly to . purs . ue their , iown organisation , ' independent of the agitation of any other body . ; . ; ¦ ,, Mr . Reynoubs , supported the : resolution . They never had ,, noreyer . vfoiild ! get , anything by ; pander n «! the middle . class . They had ever been the airest opponents to working men when the least possible . opnprtunity bad been afforded them . There were some ^ onest men among them , but they were a contemptible minority . The only question was , ' cou f . «]?* attain their object without the' aid of the middle class—without the aid , in fact , of their enemies . Hehad-nodoubt . theycould . do so , and adyia ^ d tbem to . bewar . e of injuring . theirowninteresta in any unwise attempt : to ^ conpiliate the middle class . ' . . . " .

      , Mr . . Bobinsos thought ifcat it was unwise to indulge m vituperation of the middle class . They should recognise in them tfie cqmmbn feelincs of humanity .,.. Theymight be honest though mistaken - . ^ ^ ? i H ^ lnter « 8 ts . were opposed , and " they W- that into consideration as an extenuation oftheir conduct . , Ha was mfavour oftheresolution , but ' he ' thought they . should not look with % c \ t l ^ W eye upon the motives or exertions pt Qtbera , ^ , i ... „ ^ . Mrl E . Joses eloquently clefenueftbe resolution Because they were weak they , ought to . Ije more WMathe Policy they adopted towards other cla sse ! r ., ) T ] 'ey didnot wish to interfere with the agitation of the m ^ dle . class ; hut . to prevent them from carrying it on at the expense of the time , money , and ^ mterests of working men ,- -It was necessary that ' ^ . Conference should express a del i ? pin . T HP <> n :.. t !» at . qflestion , as some even of the Chartist body were s « i ? i 8 ing adjunction , with the Parliamentary Eflfotmers ... , ;

      : Mr . Hokoakb , who had not Ions ; taken his seat , owing to absence from town , stated that he was entirely opposed . to the . spirit of . the resolution . It was characterised . by a complete , feeling of exclusiveness . He . did not even , admit . the fact = it presumed—viz ; , that the measure advocated by the middle class would strengthen tliatbodyand weaken the power / of , w . orkingumen . ^ Jndependeht of any ™ ?! ? , l ™ ' Bueka . measure , they , should- assist their neighbours , to . better .- their- condition , if it could be done ,... as . he . maintained it could be , without ; injtfry to their ,, owri interests .... They were following up their , old policy of jealousy , and distrust , —a' policy which all past experience showed to have beensnicida . l . m the . extreme .. He strongly advised them to refrain from , an expression-o £ uncharitable ? feelings . .... .. ... , .... said he

      , , ^ : 9 'Coskob that would rather see ' the working men represented in parliament by landlords th . by * Pe middle ^ class . ' The resolution expressed nothing offensi ^ to the miadle . class jit merely declared the impolicy of joining with . them . " , ' Mr , Capewixl stated that l ^ e did not agree with either the original resolution «¦^ the amendment ,. - 1 The Conference , then adjoiirned' for the dinner hour . . . . ; : ' ' ^ ;"' "_ ; . " . , " Afternoon Sittin ^ ' [_ Mr . CArBvfKLLre-iHtroduced the discussion . upon the first clause in thftProgramme ., He , objected to thatportiqn .. of , the . re 8 olutiqn , , which : pledged them to withholda ' ny support , irom any movement short of the Peopled Charjen ,. # . it . did , not , strictly

      speaking , deprive them of . the right of self-government , it did so ; by implication . vHe-tUougut they should not , ' make any . regulations , whatever , respecting their , policy , with regard , to other parties , but leave it entirely an op " e , n . question . . Those who had truth en Jtheir ' sjole .. wbuld t . ultimately ; prevail . He concluded by moving the following . resol'ution , as a rider : — " That the businesSiOf this . Convention be confined to ! th ' e eRteblishment of an organisation for the , Charter , whole and entire . " , =. ; • = ¦ Mr . O ' CosKoR seconded ihe rider . ,. ¦ The Chaihman decjded , that , the rider was out of order ; it would . apt as ( an amendment , upon the whole Programme ,, and prevent any further discussion of the subject ! , ; , .. ti :..,, ; . s . ' . : Messrs . HnBsx , an 4 Moss supported the resolution . . : ^^ "

      Mr . Babker gave his opinion in favour of the amendment of Mr . Mantle ., He thoughtthat they naano necessity tp . niak > . any ; definite legislation upon the sub ject A Mr :. BAB 5 Bt expressed some surprise at the line IS ^ 'I Mr :.. Holyoake , relativeto the resolution , ,, 5 nfortnna ( elyMr . Holyoake vas not

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      KSmm e ^ lttin 8 of ; - Exebutive when ' . the ' 2 B 5 , l 1 Wa a S reed '! to . > - 'Mr : ' Holydake had C ? a coat 0 tD Pt withwhichMtier" politicians ' " adoDted & <• T the Chartiats , be () au 8 e ? the / S 2 mnH ? fal ? P ° » ° y ; If * they " were held . ineSSSU a 8 ; bmuse tlieyhWiiotexerted their Prffto t y h ^ , ° P ted tow ^ «' classes - " manv Lt "t' ^ lBil 1 'the miadle classes antf PriSLfffe ^ «« ament ^ fessed , - Chartist KdedVa ^ 3 ? oder' 'e reftheir- own ^ interests Peo ! le fS » v . ^'^ erte ^ the cau «>' : ' SnAnM u l nearlv 1 W membew of Parlia-SenSf ° undlt 0 T 0 ^ ' to'tW LittlG'Ohartcr * £ l& ? u l ? Voted for the ; Charter entire . It the _

      o ? e Sbs S ^ ° i lnsuIted feelings '' of ttic toW offer £ k ™ h that body whidiJiittufiBd them ; by mookefv T > a 8 U , r l ~ of reform . which was-amwe thi ^ midrfU H ^ dld not array ^ thetriselves against themT £ ^ - . ^ e ; midule class'did ' aVray sSthl IT " f t A ^ ° ^ - - 'The working-man , firS th& of Cai-tw » gttt and Hunt , "> hal beei ohthtsnhW - . Ifthero "'^ division or dissention ' ^; ^ S 8 ; lffa 8 not created by them ^ but % thflpJiJinf stated that he Perfectly agreed with had enS f « Prc ^ d , bv . Mr ., Hol % ! ke . < They would RuW W doTO rules for what tuey whal £ y wXSS int 0 th ^ ^^« * W « JfolS ^ J ^^ for the resolution . It va taiS n orkln 8 men to depriTethem otthb n ^« A i ? aaa battle between those who had and those who had not , : and 'they could not make any compromise . '• ¦¦ ••¦• •"•<> '' ¦¦ i- <\ - ' : : j .-i ; -. ' ' ¦>

      Anmf ;«» ? LISR ? tated tbat hisinstructiohs ' were to ffi ^ N * with the middle classes ; but ' , ™ wl ° *' " *¦ '& * questiori before tlibm was ' ribt , iS ^ f- thfy "should unite or nbi ' uriito ' with ' another party , but merely whetfier they ' should exrlnT f ff , express an bpiniori upon the ' results likely , to follow from a middle clasf organisation . He was m favour of the resolution , because 'he be ^ lieyea that it was one which created great attention amongst-the Chattist Body i and it wasne ' eessary ^ for the perfection oftheir organisation , that ' they suould'fcydown some rule upon thesubject ; ••'' . sir . * iNtEN having replied , the question was put to-the vote ; -when three persons voted for the amendment , and twenty-four against'it . I .. ' l •' s . W ' PUNCAN 80 N tDen moved , as an amendment upon the latter portion of the resolutioh ' tKe

      following words : ^ « . But at the sam ' e time we . 'is a Convention ,: do not give any opposition to other political reformers , and recommend tOthe bountry ta : cpntinue their- agitation for the Cliarter , aU arid whole , and not to rest - satisfied till it is obtained , ' and . also to sympathise with and and assist' every . ptneroias siof . reformer 8 ! who '" are proceeding ' in . a Bimilar , direetion- '' . They haS produced' great in-WSM their exclusive policy ; ' They ! had wealth ; talent , and power to'fight against , backed up'by the physical force- of / the ^ wholo country , ahti unless they adopted a conciliatory policy'they could" never carry their = views : ¦¦ The ' Charter iiaa' not ] all He wanted ; but he went for the Charter as a portion of the whole . On the same ' principle , they should not adopt an obstructive policy towards other parties whpdid . not entertain such extendedvievfB : ' l '! ..

      . Mr . BABKaKaeoonded the' amendment , ' ¦ ' The CuAiBMAN ^ expressed ' a decided opinion against the amondment / and alluded'to ' themanner in which himselfnand other ' victims had " been treated by-middle class juries . ' ¦ '; ' ' ' ' " ¦ ! ' '" ' : !" Mr . Howoarb expressed his opinion in favour of the amendment . From the 'feeling expressed by ' the Chartist party > in relation to' a jurictiori with Social Reformers , 'he felt' impressed" withWidea that they entertained a ; wish to widen their bo ' undariea and fraternise mVa other classes of ' reformers . ' His principles were to assistwerj one in ihe ' at- tainment . of their rights ¦ without-entertaining the ¦ queslton ,. whether he himself-would-be benefited

      Or injured by pursuing that conduct ; - He ; felt ; . disappointed that such sentiments" met with no response from , the majority pf ,. the ' delegates .., His . experience during-hisvisits in" the ' provinces had " led him to entertain . a very different idea ' relative to the . improved condition iof / the . Chartist , mind . '"» If they pursued the ^ ljne of policyfthe , y ; ha < lrb . itherto done , they would lose many oftheir adherents , and would never infuse- that' newjbldod "into their ' organisation which ; was so essential'to its success . ' Mr . 'HiRNBriat some-length defended the policy of the Executive and . theGhartist body- .-iThey had ' ¦ no desire to offer any . opposition to the . Pariiamentary Reform Association . i , By . their resolution tbev

      stated , that-as the Pariiamentary Reformers' did not advocate , what they considered ; v ' be justice , ' they believed , tuey ; Were Hot worthy 6 t popular support , - . .. . ¦; ; ., ..,. :. ., ¦! ,. ¦ ; •¦ ¦ , ' ¦ , ' . Mr . Rum denied , that the resolution was either an insult . pr a declaration , of war . upon , the middle class ;• it . was merely ' ah enunciation of principle . He : thottght l tHey had ' already . wasted too much -time ! discussing ! 'their relation' to " 'the middle . claS 9 e 8 . -Theyahould-holdithem ^ elves ^ entirely aloof jromthem ) neither ; unite , amalgamate , or oppose them . " If the irriiddle class .. vrere . honest ,, they wpuia , joih with' thV . people and placethe ques'tionona broadandlaBtingbasis . ' ' " . v ' r ' " Mr . Mantle stated- he could not Vote for the

      original resolution ,-but- he ! must- ; vote against . the amendment of Mr . Duncansori .. He didinotwant to arrayithe miadle . classe 8 , against them ,., but hevcpuld noticonsent ; to place faith , " or confidence ' in them He-was ,. prepared 'to argue'the 'question with' Mr . Holyoake upom his own ; grounds , that ttiey ' should do to others as . they , wished others * to do-to them ; iney should so act . as-tymake ; the'Parliamentary Reformers honest ; Tjiey were acting , a dishonest patt , or they would' come' " out fairly for , " Universal Suffrage . ^ . Their ¦ cbnstituehts-ttie men " they ^^ prolessed to re ^ resent ~ wete ! in favouVof that measured butthe leaders , irereidi 0 hone 8 t , ' ! and-would btft ' act according to the . views oh the . bulk- , ot ; theic , owii party . . ,.. ' '; . ' . ; . ; . ¦; . , . .. .. . . .... ....

      Mr . Bezeb thought that ' they were much to blame in attending the meetings of . the Parliamehtary Reformers . They gave * 'them ' a Kumerical importance which othei-wiae they would never attain ; ' ¦ ¦ '• • ¦ ¦ : _ Mr . ' Thorkio . v . JIuki . w . asppposei . to the resolution ,: but still ho did not appreye ; of tbe amendment , ' because it did not define the exact policy they should adopt towards that or other parties : Ma <» na 0 har . ta produced the Bill , of Rights , and that prpauced the Reform Bill ,. which :. was , ; . in his opinion . a'Step towards attaining Universal ' Suffrage-, vHe thought every extension . of . the Franchise would be beneficial , to their ' cause ; J He wished that Mr . Duncanson , would withdraw the amendment , and'hayo a distinct ' motion upon the whole question relative to their -policy towards other Dartinn .- ;; l- b-. i ; . > , \ "M \\! ¦

      ' ¦¦ Mr .- DusosNaON explained . . He denied - that the ! extension of the Franchise , as proposed by the . Parliamentary Reformers , would hinder them in their . effortsf . oraUainingthe-Charter ; - ' - ~ ' Mr . JbNEs at some length / showed -that the ^ measures of the : Finanoi ' al Reformers would , give the votes to the aristocracy of labour and not-to , the democracy , thereby ¦ depriving . the "latter of ih ' e sympathy and support , of fch * former . ! iHe was ; like Mewsr ; Uundansonand Holyoake ' i ! irifavoUr- " 6 f love arid conciliation ; but hV ; would-nofc . be advisaiileto , throw their love upon those who would only , teceiv ^ it with hatred . If tliit was Christian philanthropy , he , repudiated it . ' -It was not sound " policy , and would not . assist them in producing 1 thaV ' tesUltSTor which the . Convention had assembled . * - They ' were '

      bound to stand quietly by with folded arms and ^ let the middlp elj ^ ss combat with the aristpcraoy and when . they , weie wearied in the contest ' tfiey could step , in and attain theprize . . u ci'ic .. < ni . O r ,-. .-. n , -c Mr ,.. BENFOLn , drew , a diBtinotion between , the great capitalists and the small shopkeepers ..: The term middle classpa was very indefinite ; n ; i i-. iic -i ; The amendment was then-puty . andrbceived three rotep ., -, The ^ original resolution ; was i then' ' oartied without opposition .... > ,.,, H ,, ,, r . i . .., / :. ! -i ;; --jfh-i . A . discussion took place relative to points 1 of order , which being disposed of > the Convention ' adi journed at five o ' clock , ! . , The attendance of vieitiors was numerous ; During- the latter-part of the- 'afteri noon sitting Mr ., O'Connor obtained leaveoof afoi sence to attend the House . of Commons . • ¦ - . , ¦¦ :

      : : - WEDN . ESDAri ' ' | - " ' The roll having been ca ] H ' , the minutes were read and . confirmed CorreHppndence S-3 from , Oamberwell and WalwOrth ,: thibu&S toChaS ; 11 tn 00 ther '< i 8 ^ ' ^ aW 4 bf , aUached ' ; 'l OI' ^^ ade J 8 O i - 0 sta tements . reiativ < 3 . to the money he had handed in from Halifax , ' , [ ' . - v Correspondence was read from . ¦ s everal persons enclosing , small funds for the use of the . Qon . Yention ¦ . The ^ printed . slips' of the : progranS ^ Hngarrived , Mr ; Bkzer moved , - and Mr D'Conn ™ seconded , H-Tte . - ihi ^^§ $$$ ?™ " « - ^^^™ < f ?* : ciMm . ' A-i , n = ¦" oved hfc

      ' Mr - t " , , and . Mr . Grai , seconded , an anwn ^^ t , " . That the : olauSe be omitted . " i ° --i , k ^ SSSi * ?* ^* - - * ^ K e dSls ' of ibe Charier * wouUlat , this stage , of- thetpweeeding . be ^ ar ^ irr lead to ? w 4 1 Mr- . O'CoHKoa thought that the ' Conference was fully justified in altering tbat oCJ 3 SES ! rt * The Sturge Conference at Blrmingfi £ 5 SdSJS many alterations in points of . 4 &r . Se "SSS the present a more deliberate andtoneeKsseSv and fully able to deal with the matter ., ^ a-person was transported ior seven ^ years , he ^ , migh ! oSs return be elected a member iof . ! parliamBnt * hv thKsr % S d ?« # ^^ S WS ^ m ^ &I S ^^ ^ Mr . Whkelub thought th " clau e was " bid and needed amendment . But he was ave ™> l » £ ? Z

      , out tua p 8 culiar-clau 8 fe . f ' amenilnioh fSf other details of the Charter copld be improve ™ ' If tbey thought that ; they ; had , time WhivSS M whole of thedetails , with : a ^ iew to ^ their ' imS : ment ,-he should bo happy-to ' atree to it " biife-lVB - thoughtitunwisetpdeaSy - wifhf n ^ Mr . Rbinoids said that misfortune SS

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      'tre '! lted ' a 3 'crimeV'giyihg instance ' s of'the same . Bve ' ry priric ' iplo pf merby and : justieo-demanded its ' obliteration . '" Mr . ; Shaw -said that his constituents had often 'discussed-th " e '' olau ' soi and' he was- fully 'justified in tdliiigin its favour . " ' '" "'' ' ¦¦ 'Mr . ShbW said'that his constituents wcro in favour Pf'the change " . 'He'had -suffered imprisonment for the cause , andvho tbortght it highly unjiist-tteit ne' and othfer-victims should be ; from tbat tdasphl deprived of thoiv votes . ' ' ; ' Mr . Whbb £ br suggested tho amendment should b ' ev withdrawn ; they wero" all of opinion that the clause ! was bad . It was entirely a question ot ' ^ qlioy . '' ' ¦ ' T ' - ' ' ¦ ¦ • ' ! Tho amendment having been withdrawn , ' vMr ; Grauam moved'a similar amendment whicb was seconded by Mr . ' 3 . 'HARNBt . ' .- ' Mesflrgi-HuNNinAM ,, Jonks , O'Connor , Hurst , and Bbzer spoke in favour of the clause in the

      programme ; - ' llr . . Wheelsrsnowed that ' by the words " untainted by crime ; " a person once having paid tho penalty for that crime was considered , in point of lawj-tobe free therefrom .. He ' believed that the Sturgo ' Conferenoehadamondedtho clause . ' ¦ " * Mr ; Mos ' s and other delegates also stated their belief that the clause had been amended . Mr . Ha ' rnbt thought that due notice should havo been given by the Exeoutive to the country ; if they had intended to ' revise the Charter . Many' great and noble-minded men thought that thero was a still greater injustice inflicted . by that clause , in excluding women from the suffrage . ¦ Thoy were ' setting a bad precedent in so acting without due

      notice , i ; ' Mr ; T . Huni thought that if they intended to revise the Charter they should call , a Conference for that express purpose ; it was unwise to be too often d | rtur > ing , th 6 jcxt of the ; Charter . '"B , yf ; . Kuppy stated . that . if the olause was to be altered he should propose that tho word male be expup ' ged .. He , was : in favour , of , th ' e suffrage being univer ' ml .., . Why . ' Bhould the better half : of the human race bo disfraneliiscKl ? ;; The " voto being taken , six persona voted for tho amenqinont , ; wlnchi was consequently lost , and the clauseidf the , programme adopted . ' ;

      Public Meetings and Petitions . , Mr . O'CosHori' proposed , and Mr .: Watson Be . cpndcd ,, " Theadoption of tho third clause . " ; ; After some remarks from Messrs . O'Connor and Hunt , ' : '¦'• • i v . r : ¦ r ¦ . . . Mr . Grai said he was aware that whatever was tn ^ decision of ; the Convention , neither he nor the majqrity of his constituents would ever petition again '; , he therefore moved , " That the words relative to-petitioning be omitted from the clause . " ' Mr . Tates seconded the amendment .

      . Mr . Duscanson moved a' rider , which was not seconded . ^ . K -. v " ¦¦ : ''¦ ' : ^^ r ^ . RpDiNsoN was opposed to petitioning , with a hope of gaihingariy thing from the government ; but as aniethod of giving -publicity to their views he was ih . 'favour of the clause . ' ' : ' , Mr . . Shaw said his constituents were opposed to petitipning the' House ef- Commons , but' they thought simultaneous meetings would be productive , of ji-eat good , " ' -ft would lie no' compromise of op ? nipntd carry out the plan of the clause ; at those meetings . ¦¦" . '"¦> ¦ ¦ ¦ ; :.: ¦; : ¦ ¦ - > . ¦• ;'" jiessrs . Watson , Bbnfoid , and Sayaoe , supported the clause ; r . c ¦ . . ;•; ¦ - •¦

      . . Mr . Roffy was of opinion that the time of the country could befavbpttcr employed than in suoa childish , pastime as petitioning ; he trusted they wouldjearn wisdom from the past , and' have more solid . grounds . for agitation , than begging that contemptible house foil their rights . Delegates stated that if was the best method of bringing their views before the . world :--he ¦ thought that could be' done equally well by public meetings , without adopting petitions ; poor Cuffay « ind others' had been sacrificed by the ji gitatibnfortho lant petition ; Mr . O'ConNpadenied that the fate- " of Cuffay bad . anything to do with petitioning ; - ¦ " ¦ ¦ ' ; - : ' , Mir . E , Jonbb Baid : th ' at government were anxious to put down public ; meetings . ¦ The only way they coiilo / hbld legal public meetings was ) bypetitibning Parliament at those meetings .-They had but three of

      waysv ; : spreading Chartism , viz ., by tracts , lectum , and public meetings ; and they must not ' abandon that : right . ' Mr . ' WnsELBR protested against the idea that they ' should' shrink from holding" public meetings for any : and every object without being compelled tp ; adopt petition 8 l-. -He believed they could hold them with quite-as benoficial effect without petitionsi ; , but as one means of agitation he was not against it , and should voto for the clause . Mry Reynolds - stated ^ Englishmen had no right by law ; to meet for any other purpose but for petitioning , parliament ; and , " even then , not more than fifty , in . number , land : not nearer than one" mile from the . parliament house . They were compelled to do mahy things Which : might'be considered humbling , but ' which ( were not disgraceful because they were sanctioned : by law . ' ¦ ' > ' •'• '" ' ' ' ¦

      . Mrt ' , W , HRBLBU showed , that by Mr . Reynolds' information , iwhioh hb knew was . correct , the meetings proposed by the clause would be equally illegal with these proposed by Mr . Rufi'y ; ¦ ¦ ' Mr-HuNNiriAu . said , " : his constituents were tired of petitioning ;' . they " might take better methods of creating ^ a public , mind in favour of their cause ; but . as , one method'of agitating he iwas willing to suppprt . theclause . ' ' . - . " •¦ W .: MiHiwi had . often expressed himself against petitioning , ! but . thought that tbe subject would bear-reidonpideration : ' He should therefore rote for the clause . .:,, ' :.: - : ¦¦> . ¦¦•

      . Mr . jSHELii said . ' . 'il the Executive thought that petitioning would be the best meahs of agitating he would vote for it , but not with any hone of narliamentJkt tendSng ; to : tbeir . ! r « que 8 t 8 ' . ' . ' - I .- , i • ' ( ; ( I t- ¦ wi& . ' explained , that the pbtitibn : was not to be signea . * yIthe ^ persoris-composirigithe meeting , but by the jGhayman on their behalf ? " - : ! Fvfi ^ i ' amendment •^ was Uhen put , and received' imly threeivote ' B ; «>¦ ' " ¦ - ¦ ¦ ' y- ¦•• • : ' ' Mi'iDbNCANfiON . t . hen ; moved the following as an aiiiendment to ; the resolution 'M * . That : in the pro-8 enfcidl 8 organisBd : iand : dismeriibered ' condition' bf yNi ^ P ?^' * ' mojoment over the country 1 , ' it is impolitic , and , , uriwiae that * e-Bet up- at 'present a natibnar petition , unless it be to expose 6 w Own

      weaKneBS ; and furnish a fresh ' instrument -to our enBniiestoiuWagainBbus : ; biit - -tnat-We- ' advise the couiitry tofc 6 nthfte ; the : agitation i an'd'that a groat ^ eriffl-of . Jp . cal . petitions be got up ^ heri the country . { $ . n . a healthier , position . 'j ' -andi that ' ' the -me ; thbd of ' M tmg , up , the potitionobo itfiiit ea ' ch : - looali ^ - calf- a ' meeting . ; and that these meetings be held simultaneously bye ; r , ; the . country > tb-agitate ' ithe" question end move ; the petition , and set a going an organisation to ob ^ itt signatures ] 'and also that the name and address ; of oabh-.. petitioner ! 'be' added 'to the pfetition . ' He was of opinion'thaii they were' not m a position itoigefr . up a creaV flatibrial netifcimi ;

      M ?^?» u P , nly show their weakness , mot that - ^¦ i .. fe . nQfc i P reaa ' but because of the apMny whlehlexisted atpreBentumongthom . anato fSr » ny >^ t '| P « ticipated in their principles starid-Iri ^ aloofifrom them . He thought ifche plan- laid aojw . a . mthoclause would give rise to" much de-P 6 }) tion ,, and .. produce , the evil : effects which aroso f r 9 . mt ] jet p ^^ tipn . pf 1848 .,,. < . . ,, - ,.-_ Mrr- ^ ArSbr seconded the amendment . He thought the plan laid-down in it would . robut tho calumnies made restive . to the last petition , and produce good effects . / rom the - verification of : the signatures , i . Ww . <~ . >¦ "

      • xMr . : Hdnt supported the itiinendmeht . : Ho had prepared-a ' pjan of a similar . nature , the details of whioh he intended-tojay . before , them . < ¦ . . ;; ••; .-. "MV . 'Gbay Baid the , handloom weavers and his other constituents ih . ; North Lancashire , had not como'to 'any . hastyjdecision upon : that question . He ' 'denied that much good had attended their efforts : «'• petitioning , . Cowerfc . to ' -Chartism were not ^ roade at public meetings of that nature , but at'lebtureSj discussionB , and . by the distribution of tracts ; ' '¦¦¦'¦ - ¦' ¦ ¦ j ' . . > ¦ ' Mr . Gapkwbli . was opposed to the amendment , and in favour pf , the ; plan in the programme . ' ' : iMesst'Si'B 6 z 9 r ,. H } ir 8 tan ( l Mobs , spoke in favour ofthelclausev ¦ . v ,,- ; ; .,-. ,-. ¦ . ; "

      ;; Mrr'HAR ^ ., was ; in : favour of'the plan because . ltwfls a = thjh g practicab . le at the , present time- ; one by winch they ; qpuld ; , ge , t up simultaneous meetings , landln' -many - instances theymightiget thenuoon-J ¦ yenedib y'thelegal- . authorities in theTariou 8 towns ¦ and ; boroughy . | . . ..,., ,.,,,... . ,. - ... , , . , -: : ' ' '¦ Mr . ' - 'DbNOAksgij ' al amehdment received eight votes ; ' The' 61 we ) iya 3 , th , enpufe , iwhflh sixteen votes ^ e'giveh- in TiwpuTi Pfatt be'ing . iadopted , ¦ \ - •¦< ¦ >» - ¦ ^ fhe'Obntentiprf ; then adjourned ^ ,,, '¦ > '" '' ' *" ( ' . : , ' : r' ¦ ¦ ¦^ f ^ rnoori Sitting . ' ' ' •! = ¦¦• • - ' / ThoRplihavingbe" ^ n callea , ' :: 1 . ! l ?? A * 4 < fnvl / trtuV ^ 'J ^ Jj ' . ' \ t' Election Candidates

      , ,- ; n :..: ? o : Mr . HuKNinALi , ' mQYed , ! and Mr . VGiui s ^ onded , the . adoption ; oi ; , the ( fourthclause ^" .,, ' , . . , :-. - •> - j Mr . '© BKFoip ' supportedthe . clause ,. ; . ¦ . Mr . ^ HBELBRhiid received ' . eVpresaiustructions . on , that pointiS , The great ; lood . ' tHai ; , not only the Chartist body , ; but the public generally , had derived ¦ from .-Mr ; Harney beinj * pmtiii nomination for , Ti . veri ton in .- bpposititoh . ^ to , Lord Palmefstpn . ' w . as wel tkndwn ., InoExiBter ^ they were desirpus ^ , if guilds permitted ,. of ; a candidate professing ' Chartist priniCipleB beingobrpugh , tforward jfor , tbtkt city .,: - - - ' . ; MrviWRAT stated ; ^ hat ' grflatexertidns ' were . being made : to secure ' fine ' election . of Thpinas , Cppper .. ( pr Leicester . 'ir . - I ' " : ' '• ' ¦ ; "" , ' ' [' , " -: . ; .. Mrt ; floBisso » made a ' similar statement relative , to Mr . Q . 'W . M | Iloy ' noldsfor the borough of , Bra , uford . ^ -- " . ¦ . *! * ¦ ••' .. •¦¦ ' ' .: . . ., .,,., ,

      , .. Mr . . Gray asked 6 orao questions relative , to thp ; l ( ne : of policy t <| be adopted towards Whig and . tpry . . candidates ;"'!; . .- ¦¦ ¦' . ; -. ¦ -. ¦¦ ' ;¦ -,- , ; ' I ' lfif Suiwras Chaffnian , " explained that this ¦ sjouW ! e pend , uponloc » ioircum ^ ' .... " .. " . '' ' Mrl MastLe 'and ' . ML PppT '' made Biinilar ' averthoy wished to propose a ChartUt candidate . " ^'

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      'Mr . Barker said , that afNortha ' ih ' pton they inva . riably . voted for uinan who professed his williugnesa to vote for Chartist principles , but ho was always absent when a ditision in the house took place upoa that qubstion . Mr . Jones thought , before proceeding further with the programme-, they should appoint a Comlnittoe totfraw up a plan of . organisation . t « . ? - WnEELER , Arsott , and othors supported tno idea ; it would not interfere with any discuss . 81 upon tbe programme . a ** - ' w VTTX opposed it , but on explanation with * drew his opposition . fw « ARN 0 : rir Pr ? P ° sed . Md Mr . Watson seconded , ore n \ l ° t ° ° ? ma ^ lei dra ^ UP a P lan of

      Messrs . Watson , Graham , Wheeler , Arnott , Duncrinson , Jones , Robinson , Mantle , Harney , Tatos , Bozer ,. and Hunniball were proposed . ' Mr . Duricanson declined , as Hid also Mr . Barney and Mr . Jones . Messrs . Graham , Watson , 'Wheeler . Arnott , and Robinson , were elected by a majority of . votes . Messrs . GruiuM and Moss movod and seconded tho adoption of the clause referring to local a ° i . tation . ' a

      Mr . Capbwkll said , in Hanley and Shelton they had taken an active part in all local matters , and had elected in all instances ainajorityofChartist officials , who had ' given great satisfaction , to the inhabitants generally , and elected great improvements . In StoKe upon ' Trent they had carried out the Land plan , instoad of paying able-bodied paupers put Of . tho poor rates . They had in that district mado a profit of JESS ' bosides vegetables . A man no longer asked for charity of the parish , but for employmont .

      Mr . Benfold gave an exhilirating account of similar exertions at Stockport . Mr . WiiBELER gave a statement of the good they had boon able to effect by similar oxertions at tui ^ UUt " mthemidStOf a bi 2 ° tedagricv » l-Manyothor delegatesexpressod Bimilar views . Mr . Watson gave a good account of their proceedings at ^ Newcastle , but said tho localities generally needed good instructions upon that point . ¦ The clause was then unanimousl y adopted . Mr . Gray proposed , and Mr . Savagx seconded . tha adoptionof the tlvird section in the clauses of the programme , relative to an agitation among Tradeg xsodies . .

      Mr . Shaw supported the claviBe , and Stated that msinstrueUotiB were definite and express upon that subject . . . -. i : -Mr . Ghat wished to know whether the words " Associations of Working Men" applied to Odd Fellows , &c . It was explained that it applied to all associated bodies , and reference was made to tho sailors on strike . ¦ Messrs . YATBsmovcd , and Finlbjj seconded , the adoption of ; the next clause relative to an agitation in the agricultural districts , and the distribution of tracts . Mr . Rbinslds supported the clause .

      Mr . Mantle stated that he could not rote for it , beeauso he did not Bee how they , could get at the Irish people , or the agricultural districts , for want of the necessary fundB , and thus it would share the fateof many excellentreeolutions which had been propounded by various Gnariist Conventions . He thought they should-first agree to a plan of organisation . They must follow out the plan of tho Wesleyan Methodists , and other religious bodieB , aud sond down a person acquainted with the localitios in the district to be agitated . The localities would be the most efficient agents in thiB work of propagandism . He moved , and Mr . Shkii , seconded , that its consideration bo deferred . ' t , yi r v i- J i ° 5 Bh . owed that in many localities , both English and Irish ; they had no nien imbHed with . thoir ideas , and consequently they must leave it to tho Executive . The object of the Convention was to create a mind ; that of the Executive to organise . that mind . ,

      - Mr . Capewell said , that the plan of organisation only . reforred to tho members of the Chartiat body , whilst , this ^ referred to the creation of a mind amongst , thoao who were not members of their body . Mr . Huksi spoke in opposition to the clause . In his opinion the distribution of tracts might be mado , in a pecuniary senBe , self sustaining ,-but the clause did not seem to include the manufacturing districts . . B ¦ . Mr . Rbusolds showed that Mr . Hurst did not . take a correct view of the question—it included all portions of the country . They had Bpecially mimed the agricultural districts , they having , been hitherto much : neglected . He showed , by the experience of the Anti Corn League and other bodies , that there was a necessity for- the Executive being made , the head quarter for the dissemination ol . tractB ..

      1 Mr . Wheeler showed that the clause applied to trades bodies and associations throughout the country , also to colliers ,-. miners , and railway labourers . Surely great bodies of these were located m the manufacturing , districts , therefore it could , not be . said that they : were neglected . All delegates agreed to the necessity of an agitation in the agricultural districts . He wasexpretsly instructed upon that point . , Mr . Benfold expressed a strong opinion relative to the usefulness of tracts . - Mr RuFpr stated that while lecturing in the agricultural ^ counties of Wilts , Somerslt , Glocester . i &c , he found a lamentable degree Of ienorancopresent as to . what the ChwtUts really meant wwL L BRUr f u thafc t ! iereal ^ estion was not iSWi t upply tracts ' iectu ^ s , Ac ., bufc . whether it should be passed now , or referred to f th ° T Organisation . He was in favour

      Upori . explanation , Mr . Mantle withdrew his onposition . .... - * - A / ter some . remarks frpmiMessrs . Bahkbr and jonks , thesection / svasunahimouslyadopted ' , Tho Convention then . prooeeded-to discuss the latter portion , or preamblo of the programme . . ¦; ' : I '" - The land : » : S fi v ? t P tion ?/; tJ » ' PW « rahfflie , commencing with '' . Your , Committee , is further of . . opinion , " - was iben . agieqd to be omitted for the present ; and ¦ ¦ , Mr . Taies moved , and Mr . SAyjLOfi , B . ecpnded .- the first clause of tho . programme commencing " with the , -Joind , and . the .. Establishment of aUoard of ^ wsHw-i .. ' . ¦ . 1 ' . ¦ ; In . answer i to 9 ue ^ i pns , Mr . Jones stated that . fiy . WTO d ; I * gis % f ) ir ( 9 . . they meant any goveran ^ ent ^ then , in : existence . """ ' " " : " , . . Mr : ' WioBiTO wished , to know . whether thfiv wnr *

      to understand by ,, tft clause , , ; th ftt , ^ ey w . erelto agi-W& . m Qountry in favour of the government " an-. pointing . a board of ,. agriquHure .-. . ; ¦ ,. . .. . . . "¦¦ j W-i ^^ P ^ thought " the cjause meant , in an un » derhand wayj , _ tp ; tack wnAething to the Charter , about which many goo ? Chartists differed . He / wished to . seo th , eir , pj ^ t ( orpis flpea to ; tjbe expression of any sane doctrine . " , but not , V ) , faf that those were the only heterodox .. Chartists . who ; were in favour of . the Aatipnalisatibn of . Land .: He was in favour of that dpctrinej but'did not . yrist . to thrust it down the throats of other persons . ' , ! , At this stage ' of tho proceedings ' credentials were received from Mr . Thompson , of-Dudley ... ' ,.. . Some discussion arising ^ Mr . Mantle moved , and Mr WjiBEiEn secondprf , V .. That ' tbp , Convention go into Committee . " . - ' . 6

      ' . The ( Chairman decided , that in accordance with therule agreed upon on Tuesday ,, the Convention had resolved itself into . ' a Committee ' , , : Mr . Mantlk said , ' that' the ' clauseB were so multifiirious . that neitho . f themselves : nor their constituents could cordially agreo ' upon them . He ,, thorefore , moved : — " That the prppositipn should simpjy stand as follpwjs , and . tbat the whole of the details be . omittedi-r * This Convention believes . that tbe land is the inalienable inlioritance of all mankind ' the , present monopoly ' of . the soil ari . 4 its . iniqenala ja ' therefprerepugnarit to thelawspf God and / nature , '" Mr ' . ' WnBEtKB seconded &e '" motion . He was ploased that a . body- of . n ^ on rqpre 3 enting ,, as tu 6 Convention did , a great portion pf . the . ' mjnd of , the

      country , s . Doum even , aava ( ice ,. as . fan > a 8 that ... If they wont further they ; , ^ puld .. only creatp ' .: bicker .-ings and diss . e . nti 6 ns .. ' : ' ., ] . " . ' : ' ,. ' , '" , ' . MK JoKBsisaid . what- would ' be-. the . visa . of . th « . Charter .. without the details ' aedbrapanying it , ? ' ,, Iti wo , uld be entirely , useless ^ They ^ myst . -Jay dp , wn a . plan ' , ' on' whioh , they \ cpul . d vtafe | ,. theirJ sjias ' d . Q It . would not ; avail them 'to go into the ' agricultural ' districts and inform tbo . p ^ or , labourers , , tuatitha < land y ; as ttei ^ by ri ' gni , ' Vnles ^ , t ) jeyj 8 npyje 4 ; tbeni , how to , obtain ' it < : . ' , "' ' ' , ' : ^ , ' .. ; . ' ., w , ., )• , _ , -.,.. Mr . W . HBBLHn' said , thp ,. prip . Q | nJe . of uniyersal . suffrage , nn # the . pther " poin . ^ jpf ^ .. phaKter-, ha 4 been propounded niany " yews' before the details of the Chartbr ' siere , Even yet , rdifference . of oninitm / .

      prevailed V # 8 ( to those details ' . They would ' find plenty ' p ^' ni ' p . loym . ent fftr aJ < ai | tb . | t dm ^ , to cQm er , ' ! infarnijiArismg . thOipubyc mm ^ t ? ttb . great nprjnoin ples . ;>| tbo 1 ut icnpun ^ bering ^ the , agita . U ( in-, with d ^ , - ^•^ W ^ W j Pte ^^^^ tp ^ fl ^ nibn , upon , thq . 8 upjc . ct .,. must ( nece 88 arflv -ha . ww » i »/ S ? . I' Tiey IM'lfo'ttoWr iJ ' ht'TOaltiS fufurityaiian to ,, bft obfeed . to abide Wr- ^ ^ cte . LegJ * on oJlhefeA poajtion vklfih would i ^ fy BUnb a . pjoceedinc " it ¦¦ ¦!¦>¦! ¦

      UUU llUOfl tUUBWSUBnjS . - : -r---S ^ l ^ ssss ^ ffli ; fe-ir 4 i&w&faimitoHL men ' oKigeniui fr * . \ % »«? k a restricted view of the queBtion !; sliow : i t ] iom- tb . e : ) . foUy r ; iof < . agitating for . - pure -and t ^ W ^ ' ^^ J ^^ J ^ W to ^ 'W' -M" ! - ' " ! £ *» % . i Wy . . I ' wottW . iiiiever 4 enlUt u the ^ eympathies ¦¦ otthegenei ; al jportipA pf thp , public , ' , He , did not agree wnn tb 8 whole of the programme , but re-

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      April 5 , " 1851 , ^ THE NrORTiHERN-gTAR M . . - ~ H __^_ - " ¦ - -1

  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), April 5, 1851, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1620/page/7/