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      " ^ SSaMTION IN rHILADELPHIA . fflto to ' i « W * to ' Ato * American , July 10 . ) Th 5 » city u at the present moment in a high state of excitement , owing to a fearful conBagration which Snow rSe with very little abatement from all the efforts that « re making to suppress it . —From the Wwa ? wnichthe flames navealready obtained , and tteforoe of the breeze that is fanning them into yet more destrectm : fierceness , it is impossible to fore-H e where tbej will stop , or what mil be ths ultimate extent of their tavagei The fire originated about a onarter past four o'clock this afternoon , in the upper 2 art of the large double store-house on the south side JtfV ater-street , below Vine , owned by John Brock , grocery and commission merchant . The building tans all the way through to Delaware avenue , and is ^^^ J ¦^ ssitS ^^ hiladelfhia .

      occupied in the different apartments and stories by Gordon and Berber , hay-merchants ; Jacob Levering , molasses dealer ; Wbampole and Shannon , sail , makers ; John Keller , hotel and bowling saloon , and Dy John Brock for ths storage . of saltpetre . —The fire jagedwitlL pcat fnry , and the firemen , who were promptly on the spot , notwithstanding thenarrowjessof W er-street , which rendered it difficult to reach the immediate scene of the conflagration , would h ave succeeded in mastering it but for a terrible explosion which occurred about half an hour after the Jirebegsn ..- To give an idea-of the scene that followed this- calamity is impossible . As so in as the fames hadresched the saltpetre in the store-room of 3 Ir . Brock , several successive reports were heard

      , gnd fiwliyatremendoaaexplosiontookplace , spreading terror and destruction around . The force of the ex plosion was lateral , shattering the walls of the bdiiioe , bat it spent itself principally in an upward direction earning wtttt it into the air , to tie height of 300 feet , large Irarmns : masses of combustibles , with bricks , j » istev& 5 . —A . heavy girder was thrown sheer up about 100 feet , and fell upon one of the looses in front-street , breaking through the roof and burying and injuring some of the inmates , who were engaged m hastily removing their effects . At this moment there were about 3 . 000 persons on the ground , and the spectacle of fright and confusion , and the wailiag and screaming of women and children madenpa ; scene of horror beyond description . —In

      Water-street , where the firemen were chiefly col . lected , the houses immediately adjoining Bwck ' sbnildins were completely demolished by the explosion ; white those situated on the west side of Waterstreet and east side of Front-street were instantaneously set on fire by the flakes and cinders which were flying in all directions . Many tjf the firemen were thrown , with their pipes in their hands , from the roofs of the surrounding houses , and others knocked down from the engines , and soiae of them burned Or lacerated in a dreadful manner . —The force of the ex * plosion , and the intense heat and fury of the fire , as it burst out on all sides , were attended with lamentable loss of life . Several sen , women , and children were instantly- killed ; numbers were frightfully

      scorched , and dreadfully burnt and mangled ; while sany othera were hurled into the docks , some cf whom were drowned . Go Delaware avenue theie ¦ was a very , large crowd of spectators , and when the panic seized this portion of the multitude , a great number of them sprang into the river , utterly unconscious of what they were doing .-rPeu fails to depict the scene that succeeded . The dead and dying were t » rne to the nearest drag stores and police stations , cr to the hospital . The wind being fresh from the sonth-east ,. the games spread in a aorta-western direction , and before the firemen had recovered from the bewilderment occasioned by the explosion , they obtained fearful headway . The buildings were nearly all old and combustible , with shingled roofs . The

      fire , in spite of altaest superhumaa exertions on the part of the firemen , continued to make the most alarming progress , and for six boats baffled all attempts to . check it—At ten o ' clock , the hour at which we commented penning this report , neatly the ¦ whole of the properties embraced wttbin the boundaries ef the pelaware-river East , the east side of Second-street West , the north side of Callowhill-street Sbrtb , and thosoath side of New-street South ; including Delaware-avenue , Water , Front , Vine , and 3 few-market streets ,, with the ktennediate small streets and alleys , were involvedindestruction . —The area contains abost four squares , and some twelve

      blocks , m which there were perhaps 300 buildings . The locality was one of the moBt densely populated in thecity , and a large number of die residents being poor people , the amount of suffering is immense The houses generally were among theoidestin Philadelphia ; yet there were . many valuable business stands , and some of the finest of our antiquated Quaker mansions . —After the most diligent inquiry , we have been unable to obtaia a complete list of the tilled ,-wounded , and mi-slog . From all tie information in regard to the most melancholy part of the story of yesterdav ' s disaster , we feel safe in stating the number as follows : —Killed , 30 ; wounded , 100 ; drowned , 9 ; missing , 17 . Total 156 .

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      The Masctactcbb op Soap . —On Monday some returns relatiug ' to soap were printed by order Of the Bouse of Commons . In Great Britain , in' the year ending 5 th -January last , the quantities of soap made numbered l . OQ . SZt lbs . of silicated soap ; 178 , 543 , 688 lbs . ' of other hard soapi and 17 , 447 , 531 lbs . of soft soap * In the year , 195 , 570 Ib 3 . of bard soap , and 4 . 60 S lbs . of soft soap were imported into Great ' Britara from Ireland , the duty on which was £ 1 , 583 11 s . 3 d . There were only seven convictions for defrauding the revenue . r The number of licenses granted to soap' makers was 323 , of which 152 were resident in England , ' twentythrce in Scotland , and 153 in Ireland . " . * :

      THUiFEUTtc * . —Toe history of medicine is by no means flattering to science . It i « questionable whether more is known of diseases , their cause , aid their cure , at this moment , than in the time of Galen ; itis certain that diseases are quite as numerous , ana in the argrepita as faUL Every age has produced some new system of artificial therapeutics which the next age has banished , eaeli has boasted in its turn ofcures , and they , in their turn , have been condemned as ftUures . Medirines themselves are the subjects < rf fashion . Is it not a ' poritivi . proof that medicine is vet unsettled ; infect , that it has no established principles . - thai it is little more than conjectural t 1 At this moment ' says Jjr . Pimay , ' ths opinions on the subject of treatment are almost as numerous as the practitioners themselves . ¦ Witness the mass of contradiction on the treatment cf even « nedisease , imaely , consumption . Stroll attribntesits frequency , to the introduction ofbark . Morton considers bark

      an effectual cure , Beid ascribes the frequency of the disease to the use of mercury . Brfllonet asserts that it is curable by mercury only .. Base sajs that consumption is an inflammatory disesie—shoold be treated by bleeding , purging , cooling medicines , & \ A starvations . Salvador ! tajs it is a disease of delnlity , and should be treated by tomes , stimulating remedies , and a generous diet . Galen recommended vinegar as the best prevtntatire of consump tion . Dessault and others assert that consumption is often brought on bj taking vinegar to prevent obesitv . Beddoes recommended foxglove as a specific Dr . Parr found fexglove more injurious in his practice than beneficial . 8 neh are the contradictory statements of medical men !' . And jettherecan be bat arse irae { hsorf ' oS ; disease . Of the fallibility and inefficiency of medicine , ribnehavebeen more conscious than medical men thtmselves , many of whom hare been honest enough to avow their conTiction . and now

      recommend MESSRS . JHJ BARRY'S BEVALEKIA AHAB 1 CA FOOD , a iarina , which , careful analysis has shown to be derived from the root of an African plant , somewhat similar to ocr honeysuckle . Itappears to possess properties of a highly curative' and delicately nutritive kins ; and numerous testimonials from parties ' of unquestionable respectability , fcave attested that it supersedes medicine of every description . in the effectual and permanent removal of indiscBtion . ( dyspepsia ) , constipation , and diarrhoea , nervousness , Jalionsricss , liver , ccsplaiot , flatulency , distendon , palpitation of the heart , " nervous headache , deafntss , noises in the head and ears , pains in - ahnost every part of the body , ehronic inflammation and uleerationof the stomach , tryapelas , eruptions Km the 6 ldn , - incipient consumption , . dropsy . . ; rheumatism ,, gou ^ heartburn , nausea and sickness during pregnancy , ; after eating , or at sea , lu-. v spirits , spasms , crump , spleen , general debuitv .

      paralysis , asthma , conght , inquietude ,.. deefljessntss , involuntary blobbing ; tremore , dislike to society ; unfitness fot study , loss of memory , delusions , vertigo ; blood ' to the head , exhaustion , melancholy , groundless fear , indecision , Tvretckedness , thoughtsof £ e&-destniction ; and many other complaint ? . It is , moreover , ' admitted by those who have used it to he the best food- for infants and invalids generally , as it never turns add on the weakest stomach , but imparts a healthy . relish for luBch and dinner , and restores the faculty of : digestion and nervous and muscular energy to . the most enfeeHed . It has the highest approbation of Lord Stuart oe Decks ; the Venerable Archdeacon Alevender Stuart , Ot Ross—asore of three years * Derronsness ; Sfajsr-Genexai Thomas Kine > of Ewnouth - , Capt . Patter , D . Binsnam , B . l ! . Jo ? Xo . 4 , Park-walk , little Chelsea , London , wno was cured of twenty-seven sears dyspepsia in six

      J ^ S i Csplm Andrews , 1 LS ., Captain Edwards , «•>• : Whan Hunt , Esq ., tarrister-at-law , King ' s College , Cambnd ge , who , after suffering years from partial P ^ dlysis , has . regained the use of his limbs in a very short ^ Je nponthis escdlent food- . theltCT . Charles Kerr / of ^ K ? f hv ^ - ? « are of fucctional disorders ; Mr . T . SSs ^ SW = ^ v *« s = s ,.-i ?« H « fKS s . si ^ s : £ | LSS ? "a in the 90 th Kepment , a « w % S ? "f tato s ^ Esq ., Athol-staet . Perth , aclfi ^ ^ James Portcr > : « ifli general debffity ; J .-aqa , % S S T 5 e « tta coogh , street , Dublin ; . (^ b eh ^ . H ^^! ^ ^^ » abl ^ n aperfect £ ureofthirty 5 ear ^ ia ^ Si . £ - - ^> from aneurism , which hadresirted auX ^ S ^ "J 50 , 090 other wdl known individuals , ^? f ^" iaod I discoverers and importers , Do Baek and . ChiS ?* . ? I Bond-street , London , testhnonials of the < &ijri . * ew jmanBer in which their health has beenresty ^? " ?™ ? ?

      snseful and economical diet after all other remJS iT ps ^^^^ g ^ 6 as 3 KSS 5 S 3 SaKCU 5 Sffl&fe ^ atarrjand Ca' -Jfoniwjr a , radde . ¦ l-u-Bam in d& ^ B 27 , SewBond-etreet , London ; also of Bardav . EovL ^' IBntton , BaBgar , - and Hannay , and through aU groce »' Kiemirte , medtdne renders , and booltsellers in the idS . Bom . Cactio . t . —the name of Messrs . Jtv Bassx ' s inTaln-» biefood , asalsothatoftheir firm , hare been eo clotds yatated that iuvtlids cannot too carefully look at th feact spelling of both , and also Messrs . Dd BAnafs ad rass , 127 , Kew Bond-street , London , in order to avoii ^ Rogunposed u pon by Ervalerita , Heal Arabian Bevalen ta Benta Powder , cr other spurious compounds of pea ? , beans ) &oiau and oatmeal , under a close imitation of the name , aBuch have nothing to recommend them hut the reckless wdadt ) of their ignorant aad unscrupulous compounders , W < L which , thsugn admiraWj adapted for pigs , would ¦ MS s ^ d HsTw-HJ $ k ? Jiedelicatestowscftof aainTaliaor a | sa % m

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      . Xew liOcostonvB Ekgise . —A tria ^ has just teen made at Charleroi of a newly-invented engine , the motive . power of which operates in a completely different manner from that now in use ... The in-Tentor , M . Hector de Callias , a Sardinian , engineer , proposes by his plan to increase the speed of ; locomotives , to gire them an adherence four thnca greater than they now have , and to decrease the expense of fuel . By the pressure of only , one atmospbere the wheels made 300 rovolutiona a minute , which would giye a speed of twentyfour leagues an hour . The Belgian Minister , of Public Works has appointed a committee of engineers to report to him on the experiments which are to take place on the government lines , and has ordered every assistance" to be given to the inventor to facilitate hig object . ' . -.. :. <

      ; FooirCATCHLVO . —A correspondent says ¦ : £ " A very large number . of letters have lately passed through * the Dead letter office , eaeh containing a shilling ' s worth of stamps , addressed to a person who called himself a professor , and : who , for some reason or other , was nan ett when the letters ; arrived for him . These letters , were addressedto the professor , in consequence of his advertising that Ke would , for a shilling , give plain directions to enable ladies and gentlemen to ' win , by . a simple but captivating . arid enthralling , process , the demoted affections bf as many of the opposite sex as their hearts may desire , ' From the handwriting of these letters , "i t was evident that they came from

      9 'd , middle-aged and young persons of both sexes , ^ every ran ^ and sta tion of li fe . , Such a faot as «^ enable * . an estimate to be formed of the almost pilous extent of human credulity in this en-U ghtened age and country . " , . ... .. . taS ' ret ^ 0 p Tw .-0 a Monday a parliamena > neSfiL lw > P . rinte ( 1 » y which it appears that the con 8 ttS ? crease forthel » Btth ' eeyear 8 in ^^ Sr t tea « k m > ! the quantities rewMch the dn ? w CO Ti ? P tion we » 46 , 314 . 8211 bs ; , «« MM . flWa « , *• ¦ 2 i ^ ^ ^ ' " consnn ipaon was « S ?^ tl tv retained for home w ^ : 3 ^^^ 7891 hs . ' on which the duty « n . tt » 9 Pre ^ Ji nS . ^ acreage of . 2 , 419 , 9 « 8 lb 8 . waSfe ^^' £ A ^ 9 , the year

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      MOUDAT , Joly 29 . ; ; HOUSE OF LORDS ;—A long list of public and private bills received the royal assent by eommis . sion .. ^ Tho Marquis of Lansdowns brought up a message from the Clrown , requesting that arrangements might be made for settling Marlborough House on the Prince of Wales . The Canterbury Settlement of Land , the Highway

      Rates Bill , and the Borough Courts of Record Bill , were committed , and the clauses passed . On the motion of the Marquis of Lansdowke , the order for taking into consideration the Commons Amendments to the Ecclesiastical Commission Bill was discharged , and the bill is ; therefore , shelved for the present session . The Leasehold Tenures of Land Act ( Ireland ) Amendment Act was read a third time and passed , after some discussion . Their lordships then adjourned .

      HOUSE OF COMMOHS . —Admission of Jews into Parliament . —The debate was resumed upon the . motion of Sir R . Inolis , that the house refuse , on the claim of Baron Rothschild to take the oath of allegiance on ths Old Testament , to alter tne form of . taking the oath . Previous to entering on the main question a discussion arose as to whether the proceeding had hitherto been sufficiently formal , nnd whether the house should not be in possessioa of the reason why the Baron desired to be sworn on the Old Testament . ., : Mr . Hkrmt , 8 irG . Grev , and Sir J . GaiaAM , were of opinion that the question should be put to him , and Sir F . Thesiokr thought that a . further question would be necessary , whether ho was a Jew * .

      Mr . Osborhe hoped the Baron would not answer sock a question , which would raise the other point as to the oath of adjuration . - The Chancellor of the Exchequer said , the question now was merely . as to the form of taking tho oath , and he proposed that the Baron should be cnlled in and asked by the Speaker why he desired to be sworn in that particular form - ' Sir J .- GoiHAM proposed that no question be put to the Baron except through the chair ; that every question be put in writing , moved and seconded and carried before it be put . ' Lord J . RcsseUi concurred in this proposition .

      The Chancbiaor of the Exchequer then moved , 11 That . the Baron de Rothschild , oneof tbe members of the city of London , having demanded to be sworn on the Old Testament , be called to the table and asked by the Speaker why he demanded to be sworn in that form . * The mo&on being agreed to tbo Baron de Rothschiu » was-called in , and , appearing at the table , to the question put by the Chair ; replied , "Because that is the form of swearing which I declare to be most binding upon my conscience . " He then retired . . . , . . .

      After some further discussion upon points of form ,: . .,= . - . ¦¦ .:.. ; .- . -5 .-. * ¦ ' ¦ Mr , " S . Wortlbt , after observing that he thought the friends of Baron deRothsohild were taking an iujudicioas course , said what- the house really wanted to know was whether ho came to the table with a iowS / de intention of taking ; the three oaths required by the act of Parliament to be taken by members of that house ; and he moved that the BaroH . be called in and asked whether he was willing to take these oaths . . . Sir < x . Grey objected to this course , which would mix up both the questions ; he thought it better to decide the preliminary question first . : The : house having civided , Mr . "Wortley ' 3 motion was negatived by 118 to 104 . The main question being then But .

      Mr , Hume moved as an amendment , "That the Barou de Rothschild Having presented himself at the table , and having requested to be sworn on the Old Testament , declaring that form to be most binding on his conscience , the clerk be directed to swear him on the Old Testament accotdingly . V Sir . F . Thesioer said , this was a guast judicial question and should be argued calmly and dispassionately . , He thought / Sir R . Inglis ' s original resolution was objectionable ; there was no necessity fora resolution in affirmance of , the practice of the house ; it was for the other party to show that what was proposed could be . lawfully done . He recommended that the motion should be withdrawn , and Mr . Hume ' s amendment discussed as a substantive

      motion . It was impossible ^ m his opinion , to separate the two questions . When a member came to the table to be sworn all the oaths were tendered to , him together . The question , taking it as one , did not depend upon the usage of Parliament ^ but upon the law of the land , 'and he contended that ; according to existing statutes , a member , of that house could not besworn on : the Old Testament although that form was binding . upon his conscience . He conceded thatfrom ^ the earliest period in our courts of . justice Jewa' ha 4 . 6 een bo" sworn as witnesses and jurymen ; but there was no fprm prescribed by ^ law for such oaths , which judges had be ' en in the habit of varying to meet exigencies . " Judges could riot dispense with oaths , except in" case s

      provided by law ; and to prevent , the defeat oi justice they must take oaths in the form most binding on the party ' s conscience . But this was confined to juridical oaths . The question now related not to juridical but to promissory oaths ; and he proposed to show that all these three particular oaths were required by acts of Parliament to be taken'in the Christian form ; He then passed in historical review / the . laws passed on the subject of Parliamentary oaths since the 5 th of Elizabeth ; the first act requiring an oath to be taken by' a member of parliament ; and' contended that the new oaths of allegiance and supremacy prescribed by' the 1 st of Wilnam and Mary were ^ by the construction of that act , required to be taken on the Holy Evangelists . '

      He denied the doctrine of Mr . Wood , - 'that Jews were admissible to Parliament between ' the 1 st" and 18 th of TOliam IIL The act of ttie 19 th and Uth of that , King introduced the oath of abjuration , containing ' the words , " On the true faith of a Christian ;" ¦ and from that time to the 1 st of ' . 'G eorge I . there had been no substantial ' alteratiori'inthe form of the oath ; so that by the statute law all three oaths must be taken iu the Christian forrn ^ This was the clear result of , the 1 st-George I ., taken in conjunction with the other statutes , and the contemporariea cxpodUo confirmed this construction , If bo , no authority short of an act of the Legislature could change the form of a promissory oath or oath of ( office . Great stress had been laid upon the act 1 st and 2 nd Victoria , chap . 105 , but it had not the

      bearing contended for ; it was a declaratory act ' to affirm the law as it no doubt existed ; and an affirinative statute , declaratory of the law ; had no repealing operation on the common law or statute law . " Baron de Rothschild , asaJewj could not take the oath of abjuration as it stood ; the house had no authority to strike out the words j ll ori the true faith ofa Christian ; " consequently it was impossible that the oath could be administered to the Baron in the form he required ; -The facts that no one had dreamt of this course of proceeding until now , and that Lord J . Russell had introduced in two sessions bills to legalise the alteration , afforded a presuinptioni against such a course , which might be attended with mischievous if not dangerous consequences , by leading to a collision with the courts of law and the House of Lords : r

      Lord J-RBssELLconcuired with Sir F . Thesioer , that this question ought to be treated as a strictly judicial question . The electors' of London having returned the Baron de Rothschild " to'this house , ' it was due to them , and to thewhole body of electors of the united kingdom , that no thine but a positive obstruction ¦ of Law should induce tho house to « xcludo him from his seat , and that , in tho absence of any positive obstruction , they > hould afford him every facility , lie believed that . the ancient practice of the Legislaiurd ' did ' not prescribe ' oaths to its members , ; and he doubted the ; policy of such oaths , which , while they entangled consciences , provided no security for right legislation . ' The Baron had" offered to take the oath in an unusual form ,

      and thero . was no precedent foi' the reception ot ihe refusal of such a form . Then ho went to usage in the courts of j'law , ' anu He found / from the high authority of Lord Hardwicke , citing Lord , Hale , that a Jew , sworn on the Holy Evangelists , might be indicted for perjury , the Old ; Testament being the evangdium oi tne Jew , There were , two circumstances . material to this question—first ,, if the 1 st , George I .- Jsspealed the acts requiring the oath of allegiance and supremacy to be taken on the Holy Evangelists , there was no act . ' in existence binding the house to " administer these oaths on the New Testament ; secondly , from the lit to the 13 th pi William-III ., there existed ' no oath ; directly excluding-Jews from the"Legislature . Sir F .

      Thesigerhad argued that these oaths had always been taken in tho Christian form , and that it was so by positive statute ; but he had failed to . make this out ; all that he bad shown was that it . had been tho custom so to take them ; but unless some statute could bo pointed out he did not think the House should insist upon a form which , excluded , a gentleman duly elected . The ' question was , whether the house should allow the Baron to say . what oaths he was teadyto take , with respect to the words " on the frue faith of a Christiaij" , in the oaths of abjuratiion . Some eaid . they were not of the essence of the oath ; but he did not think it was

      in the power of the House to dispense with the words , and he should ho compelled to vote against omitting them ; Although he was in favour ' of the admission of . Jews into that house and of abolishing this remnant of a persecuting spirit , if the . Baron could not take his seat as the oath stobdat present , no opinion in favour of the Baton ' s claim should , he thought , induce the House to take a step which might be attended with serious evils . If perfeotly convinced that he > waa wght , ^ should not fear any consequence of a collision with the courts of law ; but n not acting according' to law ) the touse wold be really ex « r « wing a uispensing

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      P « . b 5 ? A ° , © Pinion that Baron de Rothschild ^ should be allowed to . be sworn on the Old 2 ? fftSffri ? ' 5 ? w 88 notwilling to altertheterms of the oath Of ab juration without the authority or " an aot of parliament . . Sir R- ^ Ihohs acknowledged the moral oourace t fi n nC w ? ^ "Peech of the noble lord T Stwin vUl hen * he took the oaths . must hold all Si Li v an * ' no ad ™ t » ge could be gained by KSSStel * T B t 0 the taW « * ke * he was prepared to take only two . . ^ r ^ wf , > cloc ^ the inotion of Sir G . Grkt , Sh ^ aStt ^^ JS Lill » CoMPANV ^ Mr . H . Browh said , s ^ Sote ^' w ^ from the membor 8 of ninf ' in wLh allq d th v '<< : National **** Corapany , in which wete charfres nff (» i > tiT , w tv , a „» , •„ . v .:.-, :.:

      ssSoSsSwjr "" * " *¦* petuion c ° ntainin e it IJ 8 ' S ?* - ? ' yes ! l have go ** copy of ^ JiiSKP 7 8 imilar t 0 the Pctition ^» Wbh was irn « i- r « wnpwmwment bf the session . 1 SSSftST t 0 US being read « ^ I am allowed f ^ . Sin ^ i ?\ ! S , e 8 ted thafc - "s ' itW a copy of a petit on which had been already under the no-Singit ' ther ° Was no RCCes 8 itv fof « feiTed to ' ~ "Ifc " nOt a C 0 Py of the petition Mr . F . 0 ' Connor . --I say it is precisely the same . Mr . BRowN .-lt is not a copy of a petition pre . sented on any former occasion , but I have already given the hon . member a copy of & . M' - - ^ qjtN 0 R .-lt ' s word for word ., ; JLhe clerk then proceeded to waA tho naiittm

      whwh gave aietailed account -ef . the origin bf the National Land Company , and of the settlement at ?* En M n « Prayed inquiry into all the circumstances of the rase . ¦¦ - ;• ¦ - Mr . H . JJjwws ? gave nofico that to-morrow he would moye ; that the petition be printed with the votes . ? ' « S ^\ ' W ?™ * ™^* that tho petition presented by the honourable Member for Tewkesbury was the same as the petition on" which he had previously made some observations . These petitioners who complamed so loudly had had as much as £ 50 aid money allowed them ; and they bad never paid tt ^ to ^ ffi ^ - ^^^" ^ Admission oi' Js . vf s ^ -The debate w as resumed by Mr , Ansiet , who replied to Sir F . Thesiger , and strongly condemned the proceedings of Lord John

      Mr . Wood observed that his general n ' ronositinn that all . oaths shoutd be administered in lSZr most binding on the conscience , had not been controverted , and he-contended that this" rule apDlied tooaths of office , as well as to juridicial oaths , in all countries The act . first and second Victoria destroyed all the argument of Sir F . Thcsi gor upon this point , since it Included " all casesAnd expressly mentioned " on appointment to any office or no mentionof ^ , e Hol y Evangelists , and the first of W ^ ^ mftimUA the oaths reuS ino acts

      oy oi asnzabeth and James . ' He purposely avoided the question respecting the oath oY abjura-• Mr . S . Wortlkt should rote against tho amendment , on the ground that , ' aceorting to thonrSe of Par lament and the information HaincfXthe journals * all the oaths should be fiombiS ? a ? h must be inferred from what had been sta ed by Baron de Rothschild that be was . not of the Christian persuasion , there was a manifest absurdity in allowing him to take two of tbe oaths when it was 5 p 6 n him * attho " ext ste P door must be shut ^ motion of Sir R . lnglis having been by consent nogatived , a division took ^ place upon Mr . Hume s amendment , which was carried by 113 agamstSy . ' ¦ ¦ ¦ ' ¦ . . -... - . . - •¦ , -It being then too late to administer the oaths the matter stood over until Tuesday at twelve O vlOCKtt '' 'i' \ » ' ' : i" ¦ . ' ¦' . ¦ ¦" ' . ''; . . ¦ . v ¦ ' ¦

      oma MER 0 AN . i . MawmMh was then read a thira time , and , _ with further amendments passed . , fTflaPmircE op Walks .-Mobe ExnuvAGMdEl S i n ' ? l it 8 elf int 0 ' * committee ' to consider the . Queen ' s Message ; with reference to ¦ te Sffi .: f . ^ ! nilfsK ; 11 ?'' "' ^ , th ^ The CHAiiiMAN . put the question on the following S ? L r \? hath . ^ y beeriabled ' to ap g - prqpTia ^ Marlborough House as the residence for . his . Royal . Highness Albert Edward / Prince of ^ ales ,. during the joint Jives of her Majesty and his Kpyal Uignness , and : to provide a coach-house arid stabtes outof the land revenues of the Crown . " jMr - TnEuwNss wishedstoknowi before assenting to the resolution , why . the noble lor * had refused to grantcertam returns ! which bad been moved for with respect to the Duchy of Cornwall ? ¦ . ¦ , Lord J . Rcssjm , replied thatthnro nm />« . *« :

      „ returns which were by act of Parliament directed to-be laid before .: the house , with respect 1 to the Duchy of Cornwall , and these wturnawSIlwavs ShW ¥ IV 8 ni 7 re 9 peefc to the returns fo Which tho hon . gentleman referred , 'he had to'saV that , the . house , having in the early part of the session negatived : the ; hon . gentleman ' s motion , that Parliament should assume a control '" over the revenues of the Duoby of Cornwall , he did not think it necessary to grant the returns whioh had beenaskedfor . ( Hear , hear . ) i , : ¦ ' . ¦ : ! Mr . TRBi ^ wsisaid a few words- in reply , which were inaudible . < ;> . ¦ ¦ : ¦ . ¦ .. ., ¦ : , ., ¦ , • . •' •' : ••

      Mr . Hcme said , it appeared to him that the resolution they wore now asked to agree to was rather premature , considering that tho Prince of "Wale ' s was , fnl y nine years of' age .: r ( Hear , hoar . )" It would be recollected that ' a misunderstanding took place . before with referenoe to Marlborough House , when it was voted to the late Queen Dowager-. It was generally understood that her Majesty was to keep it in order herself , but it turned out that the house had resolved that it should be kept in : repair at the expense of the nation , and a bill for > £ 44 , 000 was accordingly sent in for repairing it , and we had Had to Keep it in repair eve * since . ( Hear , hear . ) He did not see the use of appropriating Marlborough House to the Prince of "Wales so many years before it would b

      e wantedby him . ( Hear , hear . ) ' :. Lord J . Russeil said , he had mentioned the proposal to several hon . members before bringing it forward , and he had never heard any objection to it v i ^ v ' ^ S hon - friend di < l not . seem to remembor whathehad . formerly stated to the house . " What ho had stated was , that Marlborough -House being Crown property the Queen had ¦ been graoiously pleaaedto . direct that the pictures of the Vernon Gallery , which were thea in the . National Gallery but m a place were it was complained they were not well seen , should be removed to Marlborough House m order that . the public might have an opportunity of seeing them . ' . Bethought that that should not be _ forgotten m . connexion , with this mmst ;™

      ( Hear , him . ) It certainly did appear toher Majesty s , government . that now would be . a 'proper time to advise her Majesty ' s , to ask Parliament to make a settlement with respect to the Princo of Wales residence in Marlborough House . They did not think it desirable that Mavlborougu Houge should be occupied ( with pictures , or with any other thing , until it could , be said that it had been so lone occupied in that way that jt , would-be wrong , with-P . P .. 0 Ter . having mentioned , ; tho matter before , to g ^ ye it to the Priricejof Wales . / - ( Heai « ,. hear . ) . Tho government thought-it , better , instead of leaving room for ap ; obiecMori ' -of that kind , to ad vise , her Majesty , to . send a ^ Me ^ sago .-to Parliament ontthe subieot . now . . ( Hear , hoar ;) . He repeated that he

      n . "oji near ( 1 anyr | objection ; ito it before , arid he could hardly , have proposed it later in ' the session than the present time . > ( Hear , hear . ) >; - ; . MrrHoME ^ minded ^ the noble , lord that he had objected tOjthe removal ; of the Vernon pictures to Marlborough Jfouse . " What he wanted was that the Government should , remove , the Royal Academy in order to make room sfor . that ; addition to the national collection . . . They would then have only one establishment instead of two . ( Hear , hear . ) In order to take the sense of the committee on the matter he would , m . 0 ve ; that the . Chairman report u Mr - , opR tlibugiit that he had heavd the word " stables , ' ; m the pgolution . He wished to know why stables were toibenrovidnn ? ; ,

      Lord SEiuouRsaid , he could explain thatvpoint , f . good many years ago , when the act was passed for the erection of Carlton-towace , it was intended that the terrace should be carried somewhat further than it actuallv was , , carried . There were stables m connexion with Carlton House , and aB the house n « lZ f' these . wero . given up to the late Queen Dowager , and : ^ Ming . flouso was devoted to the Kecords ^ There was now an opportunity of getting the Records removed ,-and-he ; ( Lord Seymour ) thought that this would be a good opportuaf . ofwtoiid of the stables : also . Be , had asked ., what was , the value of the property to the landreTenues . qfithe Crown ; and he had been told that it ; was worth from £ 10 , 000 to £ 20 , 000 . ¦ It liad to him

      appeared , therefore , desirable that they should remove those fitables ,, and replace tho stables formerly belonging to Marlborough House , but which were ; punefdowH , ;( Hear , ) Ho believed that tho land revenues would be benefited about £ 800 a-year by tho extension of Oarlton-torrace . - ¦ ;; , ^ - . ^^ ? , me < l that Marlborough House be-S b ° \ 8 ? 50 wn ^ bel 0 DSed to the nation . IFmIJik ! f ) u K was o » g'naUyl ) uilfc for tho Duke Si ^ ' ? aft ° ™ ards reverted to the nation as national property . The question might v ^ mt u ? rtll 7 .. not better sell itratheptfan wfZ ttem 8 ? 5 ^ Wltn 80 many palaoes . ,. ; ., - i ^ Mr . Briohi did no * , think the noble lord had 81 * ft u S !! l l T ^? induoin « h o « w to agree to the vote , if it * a proper thing that

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      the house should give Marlborough House to the Prmoe of Wales , they would mosUikely do it nine years hence as well as now . There was no necessity , that he eatr ; to determine this question tonight . : ¦ The Chahcbiior of the Exchequer said it might be supposed that the house was incurring a great expense by this tote , but the faot was that the arrangement proposed was most advantageous to the ElSluer ) ' ear ! " frOm 9 olonel Sibthorp , and Mr .. Hmlki could see no reason -why the house fThSir *? - lt 8 e ^ W » " own with what was to happen nine years honce ( HearV It wasnossible that the PrincemightTot ie aliTn ^ years hence . How could any onosay that there might not be changes of opinion beforS tCM « - £

      to what it might be desirable to db ' with Miribo . rough House . and St . James ' s Palace ? . If the house settled Marlbormigh House upon the-Prince they might have to buy hiin out if any great national improvement were , to bo carried out It would then be said that the house would be bound to find him another residence . If they wanted to pull down the stables , that could not be done without an act of parliament . . The noble lord ' s argument , that if Marlborough House were tenanted by the pictures complaints would be made nino years hence if they were removed , was not worthy of a reply . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . TitBtAwNT believed that , if the returns he had asked for were granted , it would appear that so large n revenue might bo produced from tho duchy of Cornwall that it wouldbe unneceBsarv to

      asiuue twuse to vote any establishment for the Prince of Wales . , AWprnian SiDSBt . -lf the noble lord ( J . Russell ) forced the house to divide , he would place hon . r aemfcorB in a most unpleasant position . ( Hear , hear , ) It certainly did appear to be wholly premature for the house to be discussing the question of a residence for a youth , of nine years of age . The Prince might dislike the house as a residence when he beoame eighteen . The present vote ,. following as it did a recent vote of that house wittregard to another member of tKe royal family , - which was regarded as a piece of great extravagance out ol dbors- ( cheers ) -might lead the public to infer that tho house had nothing to do witn their surplus revenue but to find palaces for the royal family . He trusted that the noble lord would consent to postpone the resolution .

      The committee divided . Tho numbers were : — For the resolution 08 Against it' ... ... . ; . ... ' 46—22 The resolution was then agreed to , and the house resumed . - A motion by Colonel SiBinoRP , for an address to the Crown to direct the Attorney-General to sanction ; an information'for an injunction restricting the ereotion of buildings m'Hyde Park , was nokatived . ' . : - . - '¦ ¦ - . ¦¦•¦• ¦¦ ' v- - ' - . ; The house then went into Committee of Supply ubon ; the Navy Estimates , and afterwards upon the Commissariat Estimates , and Civil Contingencies , when various votes Were agreed to . . The Cbaibuan reported progress ; to Bit again on Thursday .- ' ¦ ' ¦ ¦ ¦ - ¦ . B ' ' Certain bills were advanced a stajre . ¦ ¦ ¦

      mi *« i < h . - CO The Febs ( Cocm o » - Cha « c 8 » t ) ' Bill , and tho Coueciion or Fines ( Ibeiand ) Bill , were withdrawn . . ¦ ¦ " ¦' The remaining business having been disposed , of , the houseadjourned at a quarter to two o ' olock .

      ..: . TUESDAY , July 30 . , HOUSB OP LORDS . ~ The house sat an hour , and disposed of some , routine ' business . Their lordships unanimousl y assented to the address granting Marlborouga House to the Princo of Wales . ' ¦ : ¦ ¦¦ ¦ - ¦¦ ¦ •¦ ¦ '¦ ¦•¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ - HOUSE OF COMMONS . -Sir R . Peel was introduced by Mr . Cardwell and Mr . Goulburn , and took the oaths and his seat as member for Tarnnorth , in the room of bis late father . The hon . member was warmly welcomed by several members on the Conservative side of the houBe .

      Admission of Jews to Parliament . —The Speaker having called upon any other member desiring to be sworn to come to the table , The Baron Rothschild entered , and , supported on the one Bide by Mr . W . P . Woodj and by Mr . J . A . Smith on the other , advanced to the table amidst the most enthusiastic cheering from the members on the Liberal benches . Lord J . Russell BuggeBted that the resolution oi tho house , allowing the hon . member to be sworn on tho Old Testament ; should bo communicated to him . ' ' . ! .-- ' : ¦ . ¦ :, ;• - '

      A copy of the Old Testament having been procured , „ . ¦ . ¦! . ¦ ¦ ¦ The Spbakeb , addressing the baron , said : Baron Lionel de Rothschild , I have to inform you that the house , has come to the following' resolution : — " That Baron IAonel Nathan da Rothaohiia , ' oho- of the membors for tho Citj / of London , having presented himself at the table of the house , and having , previously to taking the oaths , requested to be sworn on the Old , Testament ( being the form whioh he has declared at the table to be most binding on his'conscience ) , the Clerk be directed to swear him in on the Old Testament accordingly . " , ' The honi member , having taken the book in his

      hand , the clork read to . him , sentence by sentence , the oath of allegiance , which the baron repeated after him in a clear and distinct manner , and at the conclusion took the " oath according to the Jewish form , viz ., by covering his head and kissing tho book . The same form was gone through with the oath of supremacy . . - ..,-... The oath of abjuration . was also tendered ,. and the baron followed the clerk , repeating the words after him until he reached the words "Upon the true faith ofa Christian . " The baron then paused , and after a second or two said , "I omit these words , aB , not binding upon my conscience . " He then placed his bat upon his head , kissed tho Old Testament , and added , " So help mo , Qod . "

      The act of swearing in this way , accompanied with this explanation , elicited loud and repeated bursts of oheering from the Liberal party . ' The baron then took the pen , and was proceeding to sign the parliamentary roll , when he was interrupted by loud cries of " withdraw" from the Opposition , answered by equally loud cries of " no , no , " from the Liberal bonohes . The SPBAKEB . ~ The hon . member must withdraw . ( Renewed cries ol " no , no , " and "seat , seat , " from the same quarter , followed by cries of 11 order" and " chair" from the Opposition . ) In the midst of the excitement , Mr . Home and Sir P . TiiE . siaEB rose together , but the latter hon . member having caught the Speaker ' s eye , was called Loud cries

      upon . of "Hume , " "Hume , " however , again brought that hon . member upon his legs , and , after the lapse of some moments , Sir P . Thesiger still remaining standing , and the calls for each hon . member continuing , Mr . Hijmb obtained a partial hearing , by saying , I rise , sir , to order —( hear , hear)—and in this way : —As I understand , air , you have direoted the honi member for the City of London to retire . ( Hear . ) That hon , member has taken tho necessary oaths at tho table . ( "No , no , " " , " and ohoers . " ) Ye 3 , 1 say hahas . taken the oaths at the table . ( Cries of " no , "' " yes , " and considerable interuption . ) He has taken the oaths on the table . ( More interruption . ) If hon . members will only

      hoar out my sentence they will find there is no occasion to interrupt me . ( Hear , hear , ) I say tho hon . momber has taken the oaths in that form and in those words which are most binding upon his conscience . ( Loud cheers . ) Tho vote whioh the house oaroe to ' last night exprcssoly stated that he should be permitted to do so , he having previously declared that' ho iras prepared to use such words , and to take the oaths in that form , which would be most binding oh his conscience . Uow , Thold tho hon . momber has done that , - and . that in doing it he has complied with the requisition of tho house . I object , therefore , to his being obliged to retire ! ( Cueers , and cries of " chair , " and " order . "YT

      will conclude by moving that the hon . member for thoCityofLondondotakehis seat . ( Cheers . ) ^ ThoSPEAKBR—I ^ uBt remind the hon . metnbev that ho roso to order . ( Cheers from ' tho opposition . ) withregard , to the hon . member for the City of London , as I understood him , he did not repeat the three last words of the oath required by the act of parliament "to'be taken by members previous to taking : their isoate , and that ho objected to do bo . ( Hear , ; hear . ) Therefore , I requested him to withdrewythat tne houBe might come to some decision in the case . |( Cheers . ) . ' v Sir P . Thbbiqbr thon moved , without offering any argumentB , that a new writ » hould issue for the City of London . ¦ ¦ ¦ , - ¦ ... < ¦ ' ¦¦ Sir . R . Inolis seconded tke motion . : ; ' ;;

      Mr . Pagb Wood showed , from various statutes , that the omission or total refusal U take the oath of abjuration uid'npt vacate the member ' s Beat'in parliament , i 'Negatively , therefore , - do cause existed why a new writ ¦ should issue . But he proceeded to argue-the case positively , that the oaths had that day oeen taken by the membor for London in such legal and sufficient f « rm « b to entitle him to takehia ' ieat . ! The omitted worde referred not to what wa » sworn to , but- what wbb sworn by ; they did not declare the faith , but confirm tbo adjuration of the deponent . And the decision of the nouse that 'overy member should be sworn according to the form most binding oh his comoienoe

      governed tbie claase , and was sufficient to justify its omiasioa . Thia Conclusion the hon . member supported at much length , arguing that a contrary opinion involved the absurdity of declaring the « bjeotion a Popish recusant convict . He also corroborated his argument by the precedent set in the admission of Mri - Peast , of whioh tho technical proceedings had only been ascertainsd during the preeent session , the journals of the house for that ¦ yew :-haying been destroyed when the House ol Commons . warburntin 1834 . It wainow ; howover , proved ^ that the terms of the abjuration oath were altered * throughout for the benefit of Mr . Pease , to a n » ieh _ greatev extent than w « s now re .

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      quired b y Baron Rothsohild , and a wider liberty was acoorded to the Quaker than wab sought to bi nrKni Lf * J ^ - Mter having admitted tho Cft ™ « ° nee < Udtn 8 point , that a memb » r ?« J t £ t $ " 8 tlan a W » k * the oaths , < . » rrow teebn caljty was now pleaded at a cause war tho . r previous resolution afiould be non-effect . tS S ^ Sr rtf fT 1 " ^ ^ movin S amendment deolanng tkat the seat for the City of London waa A . 1 ] , . ... — "V y » juuiiuuu n «»

      The AiioKKK-GBNEnAL admittod the principle , and declaredI Jus own wi h , that Baron Rothschild and his brother roligiomsts should be admissible to . sit m tbe legislature . But judiciall y considering & case which turned altogether upon points of law ie had most reluctantly come to the conclusion tbat the oath of abjuration could not be said to be taken , as the statute required tbat it should bo-. taken , if those words were omitted to which Baron Rothschild had objected . They formed a vital part of the oath , and by leaving them out its wholetenor would be vitiated . The act in which the words were inserted was dearly an enacting statute ^ definite , and precise in its terms , and not to be dispensed with upon inferential grounds . He remindedtho house that in the case of Mr . Pease , on whieh somuch stress was laid , great doubts prevailed as to the correctness of the course adopted r

      insomuch that an act was subsequently in-5 JS ? J "" i ? T for confirming the re-? iZfl v by the Commons . It might ba f ^ v , 7 j » « a « ratum oath was now useless , sirica « nS hl ^ i ender 3 ' ? ffere ^ t now to Mis * -ute-DOokit must be obBerved . The house mightjustly demand its repeal , but could not , upon theirsingle authority , declare its inutility / or omit itsobservance . For the sake of the house itself , it wasof the utmost importance that one branch of thelegislature should not usurp the powers exercised by all those a coniunction . He appreheaded great danger from tho precedent they would set if they aUowed the words to be omitted . The strict interpretation of the aot being once violated , there was no clause or section of the oaths which might not . under the sanotion of that example , be hereafter altered or retrenched .

      v t ! « Aksiby denounced the unfair treatment which Baron Rothschild had received at the handsof the government . His case was prejudged with * out being heard . Instead of listening to tho arguments in his behalf , the Prime Minister had pronounced a premature opinion , and intended to summon a tyrant majority to support him in his negative . The quakers and Roman eatholics were tiaed very differently ; but the catholics numbered mil * lions , while the Jews were but forty thousand . ,. A legal discussion ensued / in which the lawyers differed very much from each other , and there was hair-splitting on the matter . Members not" learned in the law , ' thereupon requested more time to consider tho subject , and , An irregular and Btomy niseussion , as on pre . vious occasions , ensued relativo to the propriety of adjourning the debate ; Several motions to that effect were made , but successively withdrawn , and the house divided upon Mr . Wood ' B amendment- ?¦

      Ayes ... ... ... ... hi Noes ... ... ... „ , 221—104 Lord J . RussEti observing upon the delicacy of the question that was now left for decision , reoommended' the house to take an interval for reflection before pronouncing the seat of the Baron Rothschild absolutely vacated . Sir F . Tubsiobr consented to withdraw his reso « lution . Mr . V Smith objected to that course . Hewishad to have the resolution fairly pnt and negatived . deSi Thu Sy ° VCd thC adJ ° Urnment rftW . Mr . HniB . and other members obiected to aiw

      tne vote touching tho vacancy of the seat , and the - issue ofa new writ for London , to remain so lone in suspense . b A warm controversy upon this point was closed by the surrender of Sir F . Thesiger ' s resolution , which was put and negatived without a division . An understanding was afterwards come to that tho government would propose a series of resolutions calculated to Buit the existing phase of tha question , and the house at twenty minutes past four adjourned until half-past six . The house resumed at that hour . / TheIwbh FBAscHi 8 E . « -The order for-taking into consideration the Lords' amendments to tbS Irish Parliamentary Voters Bill having been removed , . ¦ -

      Lord J . Russell stated , according to the announcement whioh he had previously made , tnat ha intended to ask that house to replace by £ 12 tha £ 15 rating qualification , which the Peers had substituted for the £ 8 originally inserted in the bill . . their lordships' omission of the second clause ( thei joint occupancy clause ) he should BOt attemnfe ^ « turb J but ho would propose the restoration o £ the 18 th and two following clauses ,. also struck out ui the Upper House , which made enjoyment of ttia franchise involuntary on the part of the elector 3 ! 5 OT > * F * . nB 0 Dnc . 1 "suit of tho mS bivbuuu

      m prow oi me rapid diminution of tha ^ unty _ constituencies , the noble lord calculate that a £ 15 qualification would place only eight In Z-t ^^ l ?* * Potation on the pbE iWi ° i ^ 5 propose . would taowaw to ' aore than the moderate and requisite averaea ot ten per cent . He assigned , however " for morfim portueetotfae provision bestowing ' the ffffi . Mr . GASKHtt thought . that a moderate measure of extension such as was offered in the bill S £ djg from the Lords , was just and politic ; but he ob-Sic f a"y 8 t 6 p aPProachinSthe no " on of

      demo-¦ ! ?? cn deol'ned to accept the compromise suggested by the government . a «^ ' i ^ ° u ^^ 'y condemned the course pu * . sued , both by tho government and the opposition , on this . question . Why was it that the Whigs : wha had been playing at Tories for three . yean ii IrS land , hadtecome Whigs again ? ( Alaugh . ) Whafc was the reason that they found Saul once mbra among the prophets ? ( A laugh . ) He would as ? gentlemen on that ( the Ministerial ) Bide of tha house , why they had so suddenly awoke fromthei » slumbers on those benches , and were again in anna for reform ? When he . saw such things he 3 not help saying with Sir Christopher , In the Vritii The state some danger annrohends . " ( Hear « n 4

      t *?? > , " was because the cruiser was in danmB that the slave was to be armed in his defence . ( A laugh . ) If he was wrongin these suspicionB-faeW hear , from Lord John Russell , and laihBS whatevor might ; be the meaning of that c ¥ eer ^ i ' ? T ° i ^ e n ^ le lord ' he would tel 1 Mm that tf hJ nS fvl 8 elf t 0 , * , he lib , eral frW » B « mb «! inS 3-house that he would at the beginning of next session mtroduce aaotha bill for the ^ reform of the S franchise , at least aa liberal as the Onemutilated b » selft ? n f U ' , - dthafc , he ^ exert himsef strenuously and sincerely , and * a bOn& Mt Si ^ 80 > vw * w * "SM « command their . voices in his favour . Bat if , as ha believed , . he was evading this question , and trying tO settle It . he C . irert nnt . nWhot- fhvXnnk nnm ^~?

      miseor submission ; he ( Mr . Moore ) would not lift a hand to fight the paltry party-battle ^ in which he ) was engaged . To'gentlemen on the other ( the Onposition ) side of tho house , ho would say—" Yon have re-opened the old feuds whioh circumstance * had contributed to allay ; you have begun the wan again ; and I ask you to remember that it will be a war carried on between us . as of old ; it will be a war . bet ween our seed and your seed . ( Alautrh l-You may bruise our head , but we will bruise TonH "e el . (" Oh ; oh !") You may deotoe wavagainst x £ and I believe a more impolitic , a more foolish a more suicidal course than that- which youShava adopted was never perpetrated by any party , * ™ TU ^^™ ^ scrupulous , LI til world has i

      ever seen" .. ( Hear ,, hear . ) An ex * tension ot the franchise . was . the . only protection ngamst mob law . A large oonstituenoy wa « strong enough , to protect itself , but a small body oi electors was easily subjected to tho intimidation o « the mob . ( Hear , hear . ) A Bmall number of electors—say a thousand—scattered over a large count * and isolated from each other , might as woll ba placed in the midst of a pack of wolves as left in so unprotected a position . ( Hear , hear . ) Two freeholders who voted for him were attacked in theip houses duriag the night by a- gang of savages whim cut off a portion of each of their ears as a punishment for having disobeyed the wishes of the mob j and he believed that every inhabitant of thnt ' vik

      Jage who voted aB these men did would all ba treated . in the same way . ( Hear , hear . ) The history of the Irish franchise was the history of their own crimes and follies . So long as' tub 40 s . freeholders yielded slavish obedience to the will « S landlords no indignant cry was heard against them from the Tories ; but-whenever the crvof these "hereditary , bondmen- ' , ' was raised , anl they began to exeroise their right , as at the memorable election for Clare , it was resolved to destroy ft / Si noother ™«> a than because they 1 , $ proved they were fit to exercise the privilege ; Colonel Dcnne , Colonel Rawbon , Mr . Cumbntu ; ^¦^ t , r ™ » * ' - s ° ™ _ Mr . Bbiohi Baid ho feared that the covernmenft

      had neglected the Irish constituencies too long , and not grappled with tho difficulty arising out of theia destruction with sufficient firmness .. The bi « before them would be almost the sple , and a very shabby , result of six months' legislation . H e could not reconcile the ministerial defence oi the * p rat * ing in the Commons with their eagy surrender ta the £ 15 amendment proposed in the Lords ; an « even now they sug « steS : a cf ^ FT ^ lMwSS would reduce the A eleotorato by ai ftl Jtaft from the basis at first designed . ggjA'JJ mBMMM

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      THE IRISH DEMOCRA . TIC ASSOCUt ^ TO IHK BDHOR OF THB HOBIBSHw « . » Sir ,-You trill much oblige tK !^ * r ^ Glasgow branch of the Irish DemocSf ft" ^ he bypublunmgthe foUowiog leffto S ^' tT 11011 Cullen , secretary of the IwLh ^ " Tbo ? DubUnUromwnomaletteSSS - As 800 la . tl 0 D . nal of last week , on to nlfflffJSJH'J" * -a ^ a ^ SSaMat . - aistt s ^ 3 fr ^ J ^ ml ^^^ M ^^^^^ What 8 « _ 7 , ; the ^ m ^ rmmm ,

      to von Vnd ff ^ J nave d » Ml to you and to the members of the Franois-streer branch but your withholding tta lS ? WR sent you from their secretary , Mr . John Ryan against my wish and reqnest , makes the writing of this letter an indispensable duty . And here let me ask you why ycu did not comply with my request « I am sure it was a very reasonable one . I told the Francis-street men to let you see our communications to them . and thatyou would let them mahe to you They ( the Francis-street men ) did m I desired them , but you did not . Our reasons for al-& 25 t , nH r \ ° d 0 were to Prevent sus . pioion and underhand conjectures on either aideand I was so sure of your acting up tomy request £ 1 ™ l t ° pLof ^ letter wnicu I sent to sou : tTrZ'In J ° tberBinGlas ? » naTOwil » terest n those opposed to you more tW this , that we beheve they acted right : that aa dwninlo . nf . Tnhn

      Mitchelthey could not have acted otherwise than 8 SL « I ? » ^ P * ^ case . Why , then , kidnapoorletters to further the particular views of any particular body of Irishmen , when , according to your own statement , all are working for a common cause ? You said you «? would reipect our decision as that of honest honour Ale men , be it for or asRinst you , " but this you-did not do . As men acting upon principle and honour , where interest was out Of the question , we said that you were decidedly wrong .: Why , then , not make our honest sentiments known to all brothers in the good cause ? u we had agreed withyou no doubt you would have done this ; but this we could not do ; consequently our opinions ace by yon suppressed . But we will not permit this ; we will eo anv lenrth in

      concession where principle is not involved , bat we will S ? . *' ' ® cannot , allow any man or body of men to think for us so long as we have got faculties of our own . Yon speak too rashly of the Francis-street men ; yon leave far too much weight npon them ; suppose they were all devils , they coald not , as you state , "extinguish in Ireland the last spaifc of Irish nationality . V Yon accuse them . of faults which they are not gmliyof ; they never - ' prgadiced us against yon , " in that letter which you ^ fer to of theirs j they did not even mention me name . They did not open their correspondence with ns in a perhmous and unmanly ; manner , " as you Bay . Their communications with us , . as . far . as regards yon , bad none of the" characteristics which

      asyou cribe to them . There , was mow ill feeling manifested ia your letter to me of the 2 nd July towards them , than would lie in one thousand such letters as they sent to me towards you . "But these are only preliminary matters ; I must new enter upon tbe real subject , the Union—is it desirable , —is it necessary . —is it possible , —or is it neither of the three ? Weempnatically say-no . « First , then , it is not desirable that we should enter into aa association witb . men who have publicly renounced the principles of those whose creed we have adopted , and in whose theory , reduced to practice , li es our only hope for Ireland ' s independence . A union with a political body , who » founder ( Mr . C . GJ Dufty ) we publicly accuse of

      leaving our prophet , John Mitchel , to die in chains . What 1 a nmoh with a man who had " no sympathy with the late immortal Lawlerl" A union with an association of inca who threw overboard thepria cipfes of O'Brien and Meagher , and , afterwards , when they found out their mistake , affected to pity then ? fate . 'It is not desirable with us tore-commence another fifty years agitation , or any agita tion at all which holds out any hope in the present uenBtitution or ¦ P arliament . . And , yet , this "Parliamentary question you say remains an open ques « tion . " Did jbaihink ' that the Democrats of these counties were SBctffbblsasto believeyou , when you call such a bundle of nonsense a union ? So , union it is not nor cannot be : von niriqt sirinnt Mmi ? im ' n .

      ciples , or they must adopt youre , and , intbaUase , it would be merely a change of policy , but no onion : or , again , you ho \ d your own principles , and they theirs , as you partly have done , and then what will yon have gamed ; on either side ? You will just end where you began ; But you say "they , ( the Alliance ) waived allobjectibnson the Church Question . " Devil thank them for that ; they ; had long since seen that that was a gross blunder in tuc formation of their body , they know , or at least they came jtolnow , that they . were powerless to interfere in the matter , and they know more ; that the second and sixth objeets of our own association are questions of a similar nature , ' inasmuch as they never ean . be put into execution so long as the present Btate of

      tumgs continue , or so long-as we are subject to Bnhshlaw . « You agreed to ' put a committee in working order , to watch over and protect the sacred rights of labour . * Bah f Protectlabour , forsooth , where there is no labour to protect ; but ' you wiU create labour , ' you will , in « my eye , ' , under the despotic sway of law and capital arrayed against you ; when you do Iwish yo « luckj but the thing is an absurdity . -Take care , brothers , that you be not made the unconscious tools of the wily Duffy , selected by him to work out his retrogade policy . ' " But such a union is not necessary , bur young association is but yet in infancy ; were ' it not for your contention in Dublin , it would soon have been strong enough td accomplish the work before it ,

      and , wit& God ' s help , so it will yet , although the men of Dublin , altogether , should never shoulder a musket . We will not , in this movement , look to Dublin 33 onr guiding star , but to ourselves , wherever we are , throughout the three Kingdoms .: If yon choose to come along with us , well and good , if not , we can go ahead without you . ' But' if . you aretroe disciples of John Hitehel , as you say you are , yon wDl drop this union dodge , for he was no hair splitter . Those who could not unite or . come over to yon , holding his principles , are not worth your consideration ; let them talk , if they please , but it is your duty to act . This , is the only kind of union that ever we could sanction , and this , in the meantime , isyour plain duty . After this iai ;' . done , a proper union , based ' oh principles , if required , wil

      oe easily accomplished . Then we will join with you in the r ight soft of agitation ; then we will 'form a committee'to watch Over and protect the sacred rights of labour . ' ' " Believe ns , Brothers , yours in all fiincerUy , "Jons Ltkcb , " 81 , Green-street , Calton , Glasgow . . . " Jons Mubbat . " Jobs Scakuis , Chairman ' ' ' ' of the Committee . " Copy of the resolution of the weekly meeting : — "That we , the' Irish Democrats in ' Glasgow , having adopted the principles of J . Mitchel , our association is open to all men of sterling democratic principles , and that we conld never sanction a union , even were it possible , with the Irish Alliance on any pretence whatever . " - ' Joseph O'Dohebtt . Pat Last .

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Aug. 3, 1850, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1585/page/7/