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      COURT OF EXGUEQXJER . lUCHABDS AND ANOTHKB V . GLABSTANBS . — EISUEAKCie . This was an action by Mr . John Richards and Sir James M Gregor , as direetqrsof the Eagle Assurance Company , to recover from the Albion Assurance Company the amount of a policy of assurance effected < rathe 20 lh of May , 1845 , tiptoe plaintiffs on the hfe of Mr . William Capel Clayton , who was an officer in the Coldstream Guards , and died in the month of June , 1848 . in the Queen ' s Bench prison , at the age of thirty years . The question was whether Mr Clayton , who was son of Si William Clayton . Bart , was , at the time the policy in question was made , and previonslythereto . bfdrunkenandintempera

      tehabitsplaiutiSs taring stated in the usual declaration made I » y insurers , that he was of " soher and temperate habits . The claim was resisted by the defendants on the ground that he was addicted to habits of intoxication , audit was alleged he ultimately died of delirium tremens . After much conflicting evidence ¦ o n the subjectthe court wa 3 adjourned . —On Mondav Mr . Peacock briefly addressed the jury for the defen-< tenu , and ca'led several witnesses , —John "Warner eramned ; lam m engineer in the employment of Mr . Clarfee , optician , ef the Strand . In liil I was in the habit of seeing Captain Clavton . lie was mostly in his laboratory when I called , and he was always maddled . He spoke thick . I never saw him before twelve at noon . He wa 3 always drinking

      brandy and water . He was generally muddled from ¦ onnmng and smoking . When I went there I mostly found him in the laboratory . He generally was amusing himself with a cigar in his nv-uth . I assisted in setting up the scientific apparatus for him . —Crcss-• examined : He always appeared muddled , and sometimes I Saw him more irritable than at others—Sir 3 ? . Thesiger ; Should yon consider a man muddled Decause he was irritable . ( Laughter . ) What do you mean by muddled ? —Witness : Out of temper . ( Great laughter . )—Sir F . Thesiger : But that is being intemperate in one sense —( laughter)—but from what symptoms did you judge that he was muddled?—Witness : lie was out of temper , and spoke thick . — Sir F . Thesiger : How did he walk ?—Witness : Why

      the same as other men ; -uppn hisjegs ( Loud laughter . } I considered him of drunken habits . —Mergare Carter : I lire in Bath-street , Peckham , I lived with Captain Clayton as a cook , whrn another left him at a " nonplus . " My nephew , who was then in his ser vice , recommended me . I remained with him four -or five months , up to the latter end of April , 1844 . Daring that time I always considered him a very intemperate mm . Miss Pitt was living with him . I saved him one night from murdering her in a fit of intoxication . This occurred one night after he returned from Uxbridge , where he had been fishing He brought two gentlemen with him , who thought £ he teas'Mrs . Clavton , hia wife , and 83 there was in the laboratory a gentleman who was aware that she

      ¦ w as not his wife , she refused to go in lest it might be -discovered by the others who she was . He seized a carving-knife out of the cupboard , and rushed upon her ; I caught him by the arms , and prevented his hurting her . He was then under the influence of liquor . He was out very late every night , except irhen he had his supper at home on Saturday night , fie would sometimes return home at three in the morning , and then he often nsed to makeMisa Pitt ¦ come down stairs , and play him the music . He was very different when not under the influence of liquor . He drank , to very great excess , brandy and water , coloured liqnors , and wine . When he got up in the morning he was much depressed , and would drink spirits and soda water . I recollect another occasion

      on which atsupper he fancied Miss Pitt had been too familiar with one of his guests . She was exasperated at the accusation , and struck him on the head , and knocked his hat , whic ' a is commonly called bonnetting- ( Laughter . ) She went up to her bed-room . He followed her , and knocked her clown . I with difficulty persuaded him to sleep on the couch in the sitting-room that night . After his supper he was always intoxicated . I have seen him knock the stems off the wine glasses . I have seen him do it with the poker . ( Laughter . ) In fact his habits were- ; - " dr inking . " ( Laughter . )—Crosseiamioed : My nephew left before I did . I was mostly in the kitchen , bat it was on a level with and facing the room they dined in . Nine or ten

      t mes while he was there he made Miss Pitt get up and play the music Rutnfit lived there at the time , and several complaints were made to him about the noise of the mu-ic . —Sir F . Thesiger : Did he dance ? ( Laughter . )—Witness : I do not think it necessary to say whether a man dances to show he was an intemperate man . ( Laughter . ) I know nothing ef this case , —( laughter )—for I was only subpoenaed yesterday . ( Much laughter . ) I never went to bed till he came home , though he had a latch-key . Sometimes he turned off the gas and sometimes ^ I did . —Sir F . Thesiger : IIow did he show his intoxication ?—Witness : Why , you have seen persons in every stage of intoxication . * ( Laughter . A man intoxicated , von see , is a man

      intoxicated . ( Laughter . )—Sir F . Thesiger : I perfectly agres to that ;—( lauahter)—but you say he was very different when drunk and sober ; tow how was he different?—Witness : When he was sober he would go up and down stairs like a reasonable man one step at a time , but when be was drunk hs would run op three or four steps at a time , hallooing and crying out " Let , let , let . " In fact , a drunken man i 3 a drunken man . 1 told you he was a drunken man , and I do not think I have any reason to say more . ( Laughter . )—Sir Frederick : You have to satisfy me . —Witness : That is quite unnecessary . ( Laughter . ) He was very " obstropolons . " I call any man " obstropolous" who strikes an innocent woman . ~ Thomas Lambert , the nephew of the preceding witness , gave evidence of a verv similar

      character . He said that he often went to fetch the captain from the Cider Cellars . He gave a very distinct account ef the intemperate habits of Captain Clayton . —Henry Hembrey , head-waiter at the Cider Cellars for eleven or twelve years , examined : 1 knew the late Captain Clayton . 1 first became acquainted with him in 1842 or 1843 ; he frequently attended the Cider Cellars . I used to wait upon him at his Iodging 3 in Castle-street . He was there every evening while in town . He would play a game or two of billiards . Ke used to enme there at seven or eight in the evening . lie used to leave at all hours , seldom early . "While there he used to have brandy and water , sherry and water , hollands and water , sodas and brandy . He frequently had neat spirits in the bar . He used to come in the bar and have a

      glass or lwo of sherry when he first came . in . He continued drinking and smoking till he left . I mean , as soon as one glass was empty he would order another . ( Laughter . ) In the course of an evening he , on one . occasion , was charged fourteen glasses . He objected , but the waiter , 1 think , was correct . He usually of a night took nine or teu tumblers . He mixe'i his spirits mostly . He was when he left the house generally in a state of intoxication ; he could walk . When he had a party he would leave us at twelve ; but his genera ) habit was smoking , playing at billiards , and drinking . When 1 attended at bis house he used to have friends with him ; he used to drink a great deal more than they did . I used to leave before-they retired ; but he

      was never sober . He was not a man of sober and temperate habits . —Cross-examined : Mr . Rhodes wa * landlord of the Cider " Cellars . I am now speaking of the latter end of 1843 to May or June of 1814 . He was absent during portions of that period . He played billiards with any one in the room . I used to play with him . I am the marker . He played a middling game , ne was principally in the billiard room . 1 used also to drink . It was play and pay . ( Laughter . ) He paid for me . I was fond of brandy and water . I used to drink with 0 > her gentlemen as well as Captain Clayton . I cannot say I was always steady . I do consider myself a person of drunken and intemperate habits . I generally go home oretty comfortable . ( Laughter . )

      —The Lord Chief Baron : Shall I take that down , that you are of intemperate habits ? ( Laughter . )—"Witness sodded assent amidst much laughter . — Cross-examination continued * : I attend the captain and friends atJollien ' s mask hall . —Mr . Peacock : In what state were they ?—Sir F . Thesiger : Disguised of course . ( Laughter . ) Witness . : Captain Clayton was certainly not a temperate man . —Major Broom examined : I reside at TJxbridge . and knew the late Captain Clayton . In Slay , 1844 , I first knew him . I could judge of his habits from May to Attgnst He was certainly not of sober and temperate halrita . I have frequently seen him drink to excess . We went out to fish at ten , and he would dank nearly a pint of brandy before dinnertime . « e was elated before dinner , that i 3 rather intoxia \ ? - D" " ? went to bed perfectly soher . He used to dnnk spirits neat in the mariunsr .

      —Cross-«?™ i £ I * m the Wiith . I volunteered in 1813 to the Second Provisional Battalion . I am a major in ^ the Spanish service . I used to meet OT"S w 9 * matflie river , and sap with him .-Witness : I ° » d fortunately . ( Laughter . ) I like society-Sir F . Theater : Especially when it is at l others > expense ., (^ ghter . KCross-examination continued : We went t ^ play . tquoits merely for the m ^^ J ^ P ?? Brtfa ? w * y . We went fishing . —Elizabeth Nobbs examined-. I iived aB cook fn Mrs . Clayton ) engaged me in 1844 . LWed with w for five years and four months . Gave the same evK dance as to sobriety of his habit * I used to pUt % p his hampers for him ; two bottles of sherry , one of hrandy , one of gin , three or four bottles of Madeira and as many of ale , and three or four bottles of and »

      water . He could not get to dinner without rest , because he was 60 far gone in liquor . At dinner he ° S 5 d to drink soda and brandy , and sometimes * glass of sherry . After dinner he had sherry , soda arid D « ady . He went to bed tipsy five or six times in a ? 5 t--Cross-exanuned : When "the basket came ifck it was empty . 1 had no trouble in unpacking *¦ ( Laughter . ) Sir F . Thesiger : Did he Ufcenis wHsoff whh a jack ? -Witness : tfo , I toot them * Uj ( Uugh . t « . } -Sir R Tbesiger : You Tfcre hia

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      iSV ( L ? 6 h ter . ) -Several-other witnesses were called , and after they had testified to the same purposeas theforegb nK . SirF . ThesigrVepHed ! J TW ^ r 3 ramresun on Tuesday morning-The Chief Baron proceeded to sora up the hl ™^ ' * t tlr 0 CT * hich o ^ ed «* learned tSnU ^ lM ""? 1 and eventually left it to ? 12 > ? . sldei" whether , at the time that the declaration had been made , and upon which the IffES" eft * !!"" ¦ 'W »« tS ? dSfiS SS :, ? ^; M had 80 far indulged in intern-K *! that lfc had become what was denominated and regarded as a habit -The jury retired from court , and , after a very brief absence , returned with a verdict for the plaintiffs-Damages , £ 539 , the sum of- £ 40 being added to the amount of the policy for interest . Sg ^' j ^^ rl f ^^ r ^ nesses

      BISHOP OF EXETER V . OORHAM . thief Baron Pollock delivered the written judgment of the court , on Monday morning , which occupied his lordship in reading nearly three-quarters of an hour . The effect of the judgment was that the rule he discharged , with , costs . '

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      MASSACRES AT THE SANDAL WOOD ISLANDS . ; ( From » he Hobart Town Herald . ) An account was given in the Ilerald of the voyage of the Elizabeth schooner to New Caledonia , and the accounts brought by that vessel , led to the supposition that not onl y bad the party at Mr . Fitzgerald ' s beche-la-mer fishing establishment , at the north end of the island , been driven away or massacred , but that the French Mission establishment , at Yengin , or Beladeb , had shared the same fate . The Mary Anne schotner , lately arrived brought farther accounts which we regret to state are of a most melancholy character . The superintendent of Mr , Fhzgerald ' s establishment , Mr . David W . Miller , armed by the Mary Anne , and by him we have teamed the following particulars :

      " Feejee Islands , 1849 . —On the 10 th July we sailed from Bahta' . o Harbour in the Mary , cutter , for Balade Harbour . New Caledonia , in company with the schooner Minerva and the Sir John Franklin . We arrived there after a passage of twenty-one days . On the 12 th of September , the Mary returned to B dade , to look for the Sir John Franklin , which vessel she expected to find had returned there from Sydney . On arriving there , Captain Robyi of the Mary , Bent a boat with Robert Hall , an American , and a native of Rotumah , to procure water ^ On getting up the river they were attacked by natives

      and killed ; After this , two natives came on board the Mary , under pretence of selling fish ; the cook went down into the hold , to bring up some yams to exchange for the fish , and the captain ' s attention having been drawn to the fish in the canoe belonging to the natives , they split Ms head with a tomahs wk ; they . then killed the cook as he was coming out of the hold . The only man now left alive on beard the Mary , was ai Kotumah man , whom the natives would not eat , because of ¦ disease in his eyes which rendered him almost ' blind . They cooked the bodies of the captain and crew ashore , after which they burnt the vessel to the

      water s edge . This is the statement of the Rotumah man , who managed to make his escape from the canniba ' s to Yengin , and who related the facts to Mr . Miller , who now takes up the narrative in person , and who writes from Mr . Fitzgerald ' s establishment : —On the 8 th of Sept ., we n ot having heard of the losBoftheMary , Mr . Fitzgerald sailed for Sydney , 1 being left in charge of the Beche la Mer expedition —the party consisting of John Blake ( an American ) , nineteen Feejee men , one Rotumah man , and Abraham Silver ( an East' Indian ) . On the morning of Sept . 20 , the natives brought me some grass for thatching , and appeared on very friendly terras . About noon , from 300 to 400 of them assembled , and rushed upon us with spears and clubs . We took to

      OW arms , With which we Were enabled to keep them offtillaboutfcurp . m ., and two being killed aud a number wounded , they retired , John Blake , the American , refusing to fight , and holding a correspondence with the natives , I took his gun from" him and gave it to one of the Feejee men . The natives continued quiet until the 11 th of October , when a large body of 800 or 900 natives assembled and commenced an attack on our settleaent , which they maintained with great determination from eleven in the morning until sunset . One of the Feejee men was wounded with a spear , and I had several narrow escapes . The natives had surrounded our hut , and were calling out to John Blake to set fire to it . Several of the natives being killed and a number

      wounded , we made a rush at them and shot their principal chief , on which they all ran away . On the following day , finding that onr Feejee natives had lost heart , and were constantly crying , we thought it was best to prepare to leave , as we could not have stood another encounter with the natives , our amunition being nearly expended , and on the 14 th of Oct . we took the boats and started for Yengin . Having yams and water we pulled up the coast , followed by about 200 natives , until we arrived at Balade . We then landed on a sand bank to recruit , where the natives attacked and obliged us Io retake to the boats , one of which being very leaky we left behind . We then pulled to the s-uth-east , the wind being contrary and blowing strong : during the night I missedtme of the boats , and ran to the lee side of a small island where there were no natives . We

      were obliged to remain here for four days , it blowing and raining very hard . The weather having moderated , we pursued our course to Yengin , and during the passage picked up two natives from tbe missing boat , the others having most likely been cast ashore and taken to the bush .- . On the 25 th of Oct . we arrived at Yengin , after being eleven days in the boats , and were kindly received by the French missionaries , and remained with them until the arrival of the schooner Mary Ann , when the bishop granted us a passage to Anatam , from which placet Captain Fadden was kind enough to give me a passage to Sydney . I do not think the natives would have attacked us had they n * jt been encouraged to do so by the man Blake , who stole a boat and deserted from the schooner Vanguard , a short time previously , and had been living with the natives since . "

      Cooks Bay . Ebromanga . —Extract from the log of the Rovers Bride , dated 11 th December 1849 : " Light breeze ; schooner Rosetta in company . At 7 a . m . lowered the boat , and sent the first and scond mate to trade for sandal wood at Mallaby and Bunkett , the vessel cruising between those places . At 2 p . m . Mr . Banner , first mate of the Rosetta , came onboard , and stated that he had some suspicions that one of my boats was taken by the uarives , he having been trading at Effoo , a place about two miles distant from Bunkett , and that about noon the natives of that place gave over trading , and informed him that the Bunkett tribe had taken a boat and killed the crew of five men . The Effoo natives tben went in the direction of Blunkett , taking

      with them their tomahawks and other weapons . On which Mr . Banner returned to the Rosetta , and informed Captain Edwards . In the meantime Wr . Dill , . who had been trading at Bunkett ,. and had seen the Rover ' s Bride there trading with the natives on very friendly terms , went back to the Rosetta for more trade , and on his return to Bunkett found no natives but two , whp brandished their spears , and said " No wood to day . " The Rover ' s Br ide ' s boat was gone , and Mr . Dill having returned to the Rosetta , and informed Captain Edwards of his trip , that gentleman immediately sent Mr . Banner to inform Captain Bell of the Rover ' s Bride '¦ Captain Bell immediately made a rfgnal to his other boat at Mallaby to return to the ship , and on her arrival he despatched her with two extra hands , in company with the Rosetta ' s boat , to ascertain the facts . On their return at 7 p . m . they' made the following statement : When the boats arrived at Bankett the crews landed , leaving one man

      in charge of each . On examining the beach they found it strewed with portions ot hair and patches of blood ; they then proceeded up the river as far as possible in : the'boat , and , on landing , discovered one ton of sandal wood besmeared with blood , near which was the stump of a tree literally covered with blood ; portiens of flesh , hair , Ac , a'id which from its appearance seemed to have served the purpose of a block for this human butchery . Near the stump was found a pistol belt and canvas pistol bag ; no natives were seen , and not a vestige of the boat save the ' anchor-buoy . Finding that nothing further could be ascertained they took the sandal-wood , and returned to the vessel : Captain Bell then consulted with Captain Edwards , and it was deemed best for the Rover's Bride to proceed to Anatam , and the Rosetta to continue cruising about Cook ' s Bay for five days , in case anything further-should transpire . On the Sunday prior to the massacre the chief of the Bunkett tribe was on board the Rover ' s

      Bride , received some presents , and appeared on tlie most friendly terms . Bunkett is a small boat harbour and creek , on the south entrance of Cook ' s Bay , Erromanga . The following is a list of the names of the men killed : —Mr . Wm . Jordan , first jnate , of Berwick-on-Tweed ; John Allen , of Liverpool ; Frederick Gardener ] of London ; John Burrows , of Glasgow ; and Edward Ward , of Bristol , seamen .

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      Death of Lobd Dosbotxe . —This nobleman expired on the 6 th instant at the Chateau Ecuingen , Pas de Calais , after a protracted illness , in hia seventiethyear . . < As Astoosdiko Cube of TnntTr-FivE 'ffoiWDSBr Hoixowat's Oismest asp Puis . —Extract of a letter from Mr . Jeremiah Reed , ofMolong , near Sydney , dated 25 th Sep ., 1 S 18 . — "To professor Holloway , Sir , —I owe a debt of gratitude to you for my almost miraculous cure by the . use of jour Ointment and Pills , after seven years intense suffering , caused by exposure to wet and cold . When I commenced using your remedies , I had already expended £ 200 in other medicines and advice , without any benefit , and had thirty-five ulcers on various parts of my body , and pains all ever me ; but your Ointment and Pills have cured me , and I am now enjoying excellent health . " . ' -

      Thb ura' Mr . Yonatt , in one of his orations to the members of the Veterinary College , observes : — ' That by * e improvements in modern chemistry , the medical profession are enabled successively to treat diseases which 3 f S ?! ^ J supposed at not within the reach of medi cme . . Thwtrathna 8 beenman 5 festedfttmansjears , httt inn » instance of greater importance to mankind thaa by tne discover , of & » Gout and Rheumatic Pill * .

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      MONDAY , Jew 8 , HOUSE OF LORDS . — Thk Ten Hours Act . — Petitions in favour of the principle of the Teh Hours Act were presented by the Bishop of London , from , certain operative s in Lancashire ; by Lord Pbvbbsham ( 20 ) , from operatives in' the West Riding of Yorkshire , iiiLancashire and at Dundee ; byEarlGBBT from the corporation of Newcastleupon-Tyne ; and by the . Duke ot'Richmond ; from the operatives in the employ of George Slater , Burnley , and from the females in the employ of Major Fielden , of Todmordcn . On the presentation of the latter petitioni , ; : Lord Brougham observed , that he had always

      been an enemy to legislation : of ihis character , considering it to be a mischievous interference ' with capital and labour . Still , he thought their lordships were bound to correct the slip which h ' nil been made in the Ten Houra Act . He could have wished that there had been no such bill as that now before their lordships , but , as they had intended to do a certain thing by the Ten Hours Act , ho thought that the parties interested would have good reason to complain if the Legislature took advantage of the slip which had been recently discovered ; Mrs .- Hall ' s Divorce . —Lord Brougham said that he had now a petition to present on a subjeot of great importance and of very rare occurrence . The petitioner in this case was a Mrs ; Georgina

      Hall , a lady of birth and fortune , residing at Bayswater , who had contracted a clandestine marriage with her present husband in the month of September last . Her maiden name was Foley , and her marriage was unknown-to her parents . It took place at the parish church and at the church door the partios separated . Ho consummation of the marriage had taken place since , arid nothing criminal had taken place between the parties before . The lady was , therefore , in the unfortunate position of a maiden wife . " After two months had passed in the hope 1 of obtaining the consent of her parents to her marriage—for with that objeetshehad postponed its consummation—her husband went and cohabited with- a young woman of education , a milliner in Bond-street , ' -and-in less

      than foiir months after Ilia first mariage took his mistress to France , and there intermarried with her at the house of the British Ambassador . ' ; Tho first marriage was in every respects a valid marriage , though consummation had not followed- it . This was proved by a case which had boon before their lordships , and which was known' as the case of -. "( We did not hear the ; name . ) Mrs . Georgina Hall had already obtained a divorce d men&tttlioro , in consequence of the aduHerjKdfher husband , and she now prayed for a divorce < i vmiiilb matrimnii . This was of all cases the hardest he had over known . He would take time-to consider the course which he would adopt ; at present he would only move that the petition be laid on the table . : -. ;

      The recent Post-office arrangements formed the subject of some discussion , in the course of which the Bishops of London and Oxford approved of the stoppage of the Sunday deliveries ; which Lord Brougham , . the Lord Chief , Justice ; and . other peers , condemned ; as leading to a worse de ' secratiori than they were designed to remedy , in addition to a very considerable amount of public inconvenience . ' ¦ ¦ "¦ ¦ ' ¦ ¦ ' The General Board of Health Bill went through committee , on the motion of the Earl of Carlisle . After some discussion and a division upon an amendment proposed by the Earl of Lonsdale for referring tho measure to a select committee , the amendment was negatived by a majority of 47 tol 8-29 . . " The Court of Chancery ( Ireland ) Bill was read a second time , on the motion of Lord Brougham . '

      Factories Bat . —Eavl Granviixe moved the second reading of this bill . As there was no objection to the principle of the bill , he thought any ' discussion on its provisions might be more conveniently taken in committee ,. which he should propose should be fixed for Monday next . , ' ¦ '' : The Duke of Richmond had no objection to postpone the discussion to Monday next ; but he must observe that , if the amendment- of which he had given notice were not agreed to , he must contend that the . factory operatives would not obtain that which was intended to be assured to them by the bill of 1 S 47 .

      Lord Wn-ARJfcjdFFE observed , that there were three parties to this measure—the masters , the operatives , and the Legislature ; and he considered , under all the circumstances , that the proposition of the government was the . most practicable one that could be suggested . The noble lord was understood'to object to the intervention of a week before the measure was brought on for discussion . Lord Feversuam should consider himself guilty of a dereliction of duty if he did not declare that there existed but one feeling throughout the manufacturing districts / that unless the provisions of

      thcovicinal bill were , strictly carried out , a breach of faith towards the operative classes would be committed by the Legislature , ne had presented a great number of petitions from the working classes upon the subject , and they considered the responsibility of establishing the principle of the Ten Hours Act to rest with the Legislature . They felt that it would be unjust that , because an error was found to exist in tlie Act of 1844 , arid which error was not corrected by the Act of 1847 , therefore Parliament should pass a bill in 1850 which should increase their period of labour two hours a week instead of

      passing a mere declaratory Act . Lord Kinxaird was understood to express a hope that when the discussion came on a decision' would be come to which wpuld be satisfactory to all parties : At the same time , he believed that there prevailed a feeling among the people that , rather than lose the benefit of the measure altogether , ' they would prefer the present bill to pass . ' ; After a . few words from Earl Grasville the bill was read a second time and ordered to be committed on Monday next . • County Courts Extension Bilt .. —Lord Beaumont moved the second reading of this bill . Lord Brougham announced several objections to the working-provisions of the measure , which he should bring forward in the shape of amendments in the committee .

      Lord Campbell apprehended many evils from extending the jurisdiction of the County Courts over actions involving questions of tort , and wished that more time had beenallowed'for its consideration , as well as to ascertain the results of working the present courts . As the general feeling of the country was , however ; in favour of extension , he contented himself with . this warning of possible mischief . The bill was then read a second time . Benefices in Plurality Bill . —Upon the motion of _ Lord Ltttleton their lordships went into committee on this bill . : The clauses were ' agreed to , and the house resumed . ; . ' . ¦¦ - On the motion of Lord Lanodale , the Registration of Deeds ( Ireland ) Bill was read a second time . . - . ¦ . . !¦• - , -v

      Their lordships rose at a quarter past eight . HOUSE OF COMMONS /—; On-the order , for going into committeo upon the Mercantile Marine ( Ko : 2 ) ' Bill , ¦¦ ¦ .-Mr . Moffatt moved to defer its committal for three months , urging that , as the shipping interest had not been relieved , as had been promised , in the matters of light-dues , pilotage ,, manning of ships , and registration of seamen , they had not been fairly dealt wtdh . . \ . SirW . Clay denied that the bill was unpopular amongst the shipping interest of London , though a portion might-bp averse to it . He believed that no measure could be more beneficial to trie shipping interest , it being notorious that the character of the officers of our mercaritilo marine was not such as befitted the first mercantile country in the world . ¦ ' ' ' ' '' .

      Mr . Clat opposed the bill . He agreed with tlie principle of a compulsory examination of masters and mates , ami he did not object to giving comV nunders increased power ; but he dissehtpafrom the other princi p le ^ of affording protection to , seamen by'interference between the employers and th « employed . Be thought the whole subject should bo referred to a select coinmittee . , ' Lord J ; Manners likewise considered that there were many matters of detail in the . altered billsuch as those relating to local boards , and the system of examination where there were no local boards—which would bo bettor considered in a select committee . ' :.

      Mr . Labocchcte distinctly and explicitly denied that the measure was unpopular . with the shipping interest generally . At Liverpool , Glasgow , Bristol , and other ports , there was an almost unanimous concurrence with the bill ; Mr . Gilmour , of Glasgow , the largest shipowner in the world , and Mr . Green , of London , had assisted him in framing and warmly supported its . main provisions . He defended those provisions , and , with reference to that upon which most difference of opinion existed—the establishment of ' recognised , shipping agon ts—ho observed that it was likely to conduce not ' only to . tho benefit of the . sailors , but to that of . shipowners . It would . ' have been impossible to engraft the , provisions ! of , this bill upon .. ' a general measure that could have passed this session , but he had promised to lay before the house at the end of the session a consolidation bill for consideration next year . "" ... ' ... ¦

      Mr . IIerries believed that a large proportion of the -shipping interest . was . not : favourable to this measure . Ilia main objection to > it . was , that the conditions imposed upon the Legislature , when it passed tho measure of : lastyear—that tho mercantile marine of this country should be . relieved as much as possible of their burdens , so as to enable it to sustain . & competition with . foreigners—Had beep forgotten ; " He did not desire , ' however . Uo ob-8 trppjithep . r . ogregs . of . this hill ,, but would go into committee to make it as perfect as possible , and he hoped that time vrould tben be given to tboso vbo

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      were deeply interested injit to oonsider the effectof its provisions before it passedinto a law . ' , Mt . Cardwell was decidedly in favour of the measure ui its altered state , . If . the ifcjme allowed , it would be most important to consider the other subjects , connected with it ,, but this not beinc the ca 8 e , ^ oniyqueStion TOs whether the bill should & 2 Sr « y ™ ^ . P "*?^ 8 ?? 8 lon ' The shipping inhift , ? fM ' r Y « , iVtfirst ° PP ° to the ¦ W ' . ^ l * bouohere had met th e propositions vfSr ? h » ra . ber ° f Commerce in a becoming spin " . ST' ^ fo ^ ' ^ nyingthe importanclof the ™ J eot »« Mltt

      This motion was upon a division negatived by 120 against 34 . ' ' After some observations by Mr . Wawn , in opposition to the bill , the house went into committee ; but it being three , o ' clock , . the Chairman reported pr T ^ C 8 -: r btaining i leOTe t 0 sifc a P this morning ihe sitting , was then suspended until five o ' clock . un tlie house ve-assembling , Mr P . O ' Connou presented a petition from merchants , brewers distillers , proprietor ? , iactors , householders , dealers in exciseable liquors , and others , residing in the city of Glasgow , against a bill introduced into the House of Peers , which imports to impose grea . ter restrictiona upon the system of licensing spirit-dealers in Scotland . On the house resolving itself into committee on the Ecclesiatical Commission Bill .

      Mr . Hobsman rose to nioveMiis amendment to clause 1 , relating to : the appointment of Church Estates Commissioners . lie proposed that tho whole commission should be limited to three paid and responsible officers , and that the fifty-two present ex-ojtfkio , ' members ,. of the board should be removed . The judges , cabinet ministers , and bishops of which it was composed , had , he observed , their own important ' duties , ¦ which were incompatible with . tho due exercise of their functions in the board . He thought that this was especially true of the bishops . ; . He , quoted § cripturo to prove the inconvenience

      ot . ecclcsinstical personages being distracted irom the spiritual calls that awaited them in their own dioceses , in order to . take part itiquestionB affectihg the temporal interests of the , Church at largo . He admitted that ho had often had occasion to speak againBt existing bishops , but that was because hie conceived them to be . more than other men opposed to' the religious instruction of the people . ' .. , ¦ . ¦ ' •¦ jtibrd John Russell preferred to adopt the suggestion of . the committee , which vras , that-tho most important questions should Still bo left to the board at large ; but that a smaller bod y should be appointed for ordinary matters . .

      After a caution to the house from Sir RoBEnT I . v-OLis , against placing confidence in Mr . Horsman ' s facts , ar id a retort from that gentleman , ; Sir Benjamin Hall said that he agreed in thinking that the bishops should form no part of tlie commission j . because their conduct had proved how intent they were ori . using every means to agrrondi 8 . e themselves to the nogleetof their parochial clergy . The bishops only attended the board when they wanted to borrow from the fund . Upon these grounds , which heillustratedby a variety of instances , he should support Mr ., Horsman ' s amendment . ' Sir O . Gbey observed that many of the oharges laid against the bishops by tho hon . baronet only betrayed his ignorance of the duties really reposed in them as oommissibners . For instance , they were not competent to deal with questions of pluralities as had been , suggested by Sir B . Hall .

      Mr , Glads . iq . ne observed" that tho faults of the commission could hardly be cliavged against the bishops , unlessit were shown that the lay members divided in a minority against . them . The committed subsequently divided , when Mr . Horsman ' s amendment was lost by a majority of GO to 22 , . ' . . Mr . E . Dbnison then proposed that threo of the commissioners should lie paid ; but after a short cqnver 8 ation ; , thisand thefollowing clauses up to No . 6 were agreed to . "' ' Severalclauses . ^ aying been passed , after some miscellaneous conversation and . ' a divisiona . -

      , pro longed discussior i ensued upon the clause introduced in the House of Lords for providing the gradual appointment of a series of suffragan bishops , who were to receive a reduced scale of income , and enjoy no parliamentary privileges , but were to . fulfil a minor and auxiliary range of episcopal duties . Lord J . Russell moved an amendment , whereby the operation of this clause was considerably restricted . The committee . then divided , and the government amendment was carried by a majority of 103 to 111 Majority , 52 . ' ' Clauses up to fifteen having been agreed to the chatvman reported progress arid the house

      resuroed . . The Corporation of Boroughs Confirmation Bill went through committee . - The Population ( Census ) Bill also , went thr OUgh conimittoe . ' ' .. ' ; . . . Mr ; MAconEGOB moved the addition of schedules providing a variety of minute statistical returns regarding the employments , ' productions , possessions and religious tenets of tho dwellers in agricultural districts . - ¦ ¦ ; ' ¦¦ ' .. ' ' Mr . Cornewall Lewis and Sir G . Grey opposed the , proposition / which would encumber thereturns , and must delay the completion of the census . After some lively discussion the motion was withdrawn . A similar bill for IrelaRd was afterwards carried through committee . :

      The committal ofihe Home Made Spirits in Bond Bill having , been put , tho Chancellor of the . Exchequer without any further remark , moved that it be committed that day three months . Tho house divided— . For going in committee „ ] 20 ^ Sainsb . ... ; ..... 121 Majority —l The house adjourned at a quarter to two o ' clock .

      TUESDAY , July 9 . \ HOUSE OF l 6 rdS . ~ Death op the Duke op Cambridge . —The Marquis of Londondebrv , - after enumerating tho virtues of the late Duke of Cambridge , proposed that tho house should show its respect for the illustrious deceased by an immediate adjournment .. ''¦' , " The Marquis of Laijudownk , ' Avhilohe entirely subscribed to all that had fallen from the noble ¦ Marquis , still must object to ' the motion for an ad jdurnment , partly because it was unusual , butmore especially because it would deprive the house of an opportunity of condoling with her Majesty and the Duchess of Cambridge , by voting an address of sympathy in the bereavement which had befallen the Royal Family . .. .:.. . After some discussion it was agreed that . tbe Marquis of Lansdowne , should pi'OpoSO twoi addresses of cbhdole ' nce-lohe' to her . , Majesty , " tho other'to the Duchess of Cambridge ,, and that the Marquis of Londonderry , should withdraw . his motion of adjournment . , ' ,

      Tho two addresses were accordingly voted nen . eon ., and the motion withdrawn . . ¦ The report on tho Parliamentary Voters ( Ireland ) Bill was received ; arid the third reading fixed for Friday . ' ' ; ; : ; _ ' ¦ : . . ; ' . ' ' •; . . , . . ; ' The Metropolitan'Interments Bill passed through committee , the Elections ( Ireland ) Bill . was . read a second time , a number of other , bills / were forwarded a stage , and their Lordships adjourned . 1 HOUSE OF COMMONS . —This house was occupied during the morning sitting ,. in Committee , with the details of tho Mercantile'Marino 'Bill ) until past three o ! clock , when the Chairman reported progress , to 8 it'aKatn ' on'Thursdiiy ' mbnnngJ .. ' . ' " t . , An ' adjournment then'took ' pliicp until five o ' clock . . ¦\ Vhen'the . housb re-assembled , ,

      . Thp 4 National Land' CoMPANT . —MivF . O ' Connor presented a pctitibri relative to tho affairs of tins company , and moved that it be read by the olei'k atthetable . : :: " ' .. ¦ . ' ... * The ClQrk had commenced reading the petition ' which purported to bo from Mr . Teargus O'Connor and others , directors and shareholders " in the National Land Compnny , ' when Mr Robbock . asked ifvtho , hon . member was compo nt l > resent a petition from himself ? ¦ ine Speaker intimated that he was riot , but said ho mi ght give it to some other member to present . ; ; - - Mr . F . O'Connou . — Thank . you sir ; then I'll asK the hon : member for Rochdale to present it forme . ¦ ¦ ¦ !! ¦ •¦

      Mr . S . CnAWForiB . subsequently prcsentbd , the petition , which prayed the house to ' give leave to bring m a bill to dissolve the' company , notwithstanding that tho period fixed , by the orders of the house for presenting petitions to bring ! iri , nrivate bills hadeliipsed . , ' ¦ . /' ; '' , Death op the Duke or Cambridge ; . i ^ Lord J , Rbssbll paid a similar complimonii'tbth ' o deceased prince , as that passed in the Peers , and the house agreed to addresses of condolence to the Queenarid the Duchess of Cambridge , " .. . \ - . ' . The Countt FRANcnisK . —Mr ! L ; Kino ' then roso forleave to bring in a bill to makei the frajichise in counties in England and Wales the samo as that in boroughs , ' by giving the right of voting to all occupiers of tenements oftlto anuual Value of £ 10 . lie

      whs awaro-that ihariy hon . gentlemen on that side of the house werens anxious as ho was for a considerable measure of Parliamentary reform ; and : the hon . member for Montrbso had , year after ybar , brought forward a most ' oomprehensivo measure : of reform , which had been' supported' by increasing minorities , but whieh had , been opposed on the ground that in its main features it ' resembled , what was called « the Chartef . " IIp ( Mr . King ) considered that / the peace and tranquillity this country had enioyeddumginB . l ^ ttwayears ' was in a great measure owing to tho reform adopted in 1832 , arid to tne fact that tho people looked forward with con , ndepcetQ&eawompUataaeat ^ f OTtw refora 9 .

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      The house must change theii-prejudices ; they must nmen d' their ; laws and alter their system , because the ideas of the people had greatly changed and improved . Tlie Reform Act had given to £ 10 householders in ' certain' towns tlie right to' exercise the franchise ; and it had novrcome a griqvous anomaly nndinjustice that persons paying a rental something short of £ 50 , but not residing in a'borough town , should not be represented at all . It was tho great principle of our constitution that no man should be taxed unless he was represented ; and yet persons in this situation were taxed , and that heavily , too , without being represented . Many men who had fS iv-n 3681 " «? , Avortlv somewhat less than £ 50-a-year , who kent taxed snvvanto t ™» A

      tax , window-tax and other assessed taxea ! were not allowed the privilege of a vote : whl » vmn » h » heldfreeholfprop / rty of the anm , aI ' valuS 2 a-year injorty different counties would dossosb « many different votes . Why , he would ask slmnM a £ 10 householder in Andovor bo entUled to v " e for two members for that borough , whilo a £ 40 householdei- at Basingstoke would not bo entitled to yoto at all ? Why should a £ 10 householder at Reigate have a 198 th share in sending a ' member to imrliament , while a person living in a larger and hotter houso at Croydon , but paying something n «« ° t £ fl 0 < vy ° al ' ' wa 8 not allowed to have l-b , OOOth share in returning members for tho eastern

      division of Surrey ? He had a list of twenty-two boroughs , each of which , with two exceptions , returned two members to parliament ; and in no case ( lid the electors amount to 400 . The total number electors in those boroughs was 6 , 895 , so that , on the . average , one ' member was returned by 103 electors : > Yhil < nn the West Riding of Yorkshire 30 , 000 S ors had enly two representatives . Surely tho £ 10 householders who lived m populous but unrepresented towns had just as much pecuniary stake and wore likely to possess as much political wisdom as tlieir neiglibours who lived in small borou » hs . lie must also remind tho house of the undue influence which might be exercised by a few hiree

      proprietors in the smaller boroughs . ' It had been proved by tho reports of election , committees , that » . t « w hundred shopkeepers in certain boroughs in the south and south-west of England , by sellin " theirvotes , neutralised the effects of the franchise which had been given to such large towns as Manchester and Birmingham . ; He thought the house ought to give : tlieir assent to his proposal /¦ which would destroy a great anomaly , and would remove a _ senseof injustice which now existed in the minds ot hundreds and thousands of people . This measure would , at all events , test the sincerity of the hon gentlemen opposite who still clung to protection , an . l who boldly asserted that the great bodv of tho

      people wore in favour of a bread , tax , for it would gire them , the means of trying that question in those very districts where they alleged that distress existed to the greatest extent . ( Hear , hear . ) ' For his own part / he was most willing to submit the question m that manner to the great body of the people , and ho had no doubt the verdict of the people would be one by which the cause of plenty and prosperity would be permanently established . ( Hear , hear . ) ' ' ¦ ¦ Mr . Hume , in seconding the motion , said that as Ins opinions on the subject of reform were very well known , it wpuld be unnecessary for him to detain thellouse . it any length . The noble lord who introduced the Reform Bill had admitted he was

      pre pared to carry it still further , but he had not said to what extent , although tho noble lord had certainly declared against the measure to which ho ( Mr . Hume ) had advised tho nouso to assent , if they wished to . give contentment to the people He ( Mr . Hume ) maintained , that the more tbe people vfere trusted , the more faithfully would they act towards their country , and the more likely would they bo to resist any attempts that might be made to interfere with institutions that were really valuable . He asked the noble lord in what way anv progress or advance towards reform could be made with less risk and danger , than in the mode proposed by his honourable friend ? He thought it was only an act of iustico to extend to £ 10 householders

      m counties the same privilege that was possessed by £ 10 householders m boroughs . There could be- no danger in such a measure , for persons occupying £ 10 houses in the country were , in many cases superior to those who occupied houses of the same value in towns . Ho considered that an extension of the number of the constituency , so far from affording any cause for alarm would increase the safety and security of the country . What was tho state of the suffrage at this moment ? He was sorry to find , from a return laid upon the table a few days since ,- that during the years 1849-50 there had been a decrease in the number of county

      elec-^« n m , ugland and ; Vales of between 5 , 000 and 6000 , although in-tho boroughs there had been an increase of lo , 442 . He thought the motion of his honourable friend was extremely - well timed , and he hoped the honourable and sallant member for Westminster ( Sir D . L . Evans ) would allow the House to take a division simply upon the question He approved tho amendment of that honourable and gallant member , but he feared it might endanger the success of the motion of the honourable . membeKfor East Surrjr ( Mr . King ) , and he would tnerefove advise the honourable and gallant mom . her- to postpone his amendment and to brin <* it forward on a future occasion as a substantive

      motion . Sir . DkL . Evans said if lie thought the amendment of which he had given notice would interfere in the least degree with the division on the motion of tho hon . member for East Surrey , he would readily comply with the request of the hon . member for Montrose . But he wished to remind hen . « eutlemc-n that though he had now placed his motion'in the shapo of an amendment , it had been submitted to the house in the form of an original motion two or three mouths before the hon . member for East Surrey gav « notice of his proposition . Ho would however , leave himself , with regard to the withdrawal of tho amendment , entirely in the hands of his hon . friends . In his opinion , tho motion of the

      hon . member-for East Surrey did not go by any means far enough . He must remind the house that the measures of reform w hich were adopted eighteen years ago were not accepted by the Reform party as a complete ' and adequate reform , but purely as a compromise ; to prevent any disturbance of tho peace and tranquillity of the country . Those measures were accepted moi'oly as an instalment : and he considered that the intellectual and moral improvement which had . taken place among the people , and especially among the humbler classes , since that period , had . ' peculiarly ' qualified them to be entrusted with constitutional rights . He cautioned them not to pursue the same course tli . it was taken in France two years ago . wherein

      , consequence of the refusal of a gvudual extension of the franchise , a revolution had broken out , and universal suffrage had been obtained by the people , though they would lifvvobuen satisfied with less if it had been conceded itothemin time . , What , then , he would propose was , firstly , "to render the payment of any income or property tax a qualification to vote for members of Parliament for the . county -or borough in which such paymcnt shall have been made , provided that no person sliall be so entitled unless he shall have been resident for the space of twelve months preceding withintlio said county or borough arid shall have been duly registered ; " secondly , "¦ to render tlie payment of poor-rate as occupier of any premises rated as of the net nnnual value of £ 5

      or upwards , a qualification to vote , for members of parliament for tho county or borough within which such persons arc situated , provided the person paying- sHchrnt © shall hav ' o ocoupied ' such " promises for twelve months preceding , nnd have been July registered ; " nnd , thirdly , " to render . deposits in savings banks of , a certain ' amount a qualification to vote for member ' s of parliament , ' with the provision of twelve months preceding residence and of registration , and ; of twelve months' preceding duration of such deposits . " Under the present system taxation pressed unequally , and the gi ' oatei- burden of it fell upon the poor ; but redress had never been obtained by conviction or argument—reforms had ' never been made until there was danger or

      alarm of an insurrection in the country ; but that was not a satisfactory state for the Legislature to be in . Ho rejoiced , indeed , that the reforms of the last few years had been made , for otherwise , in the present excited state of Europe , a revolution might have occurred here ; There was a greater necessity that tho House . of Commons should be made a just oquipoiso to'thd House of Lords , for the latter ' was decidedly , hostilo to any measures of reform , so that tho two branches of tho LegislatureSyere always in danger of a collision . From tho constitution of the House ' of Lordstherewas always a majority in it against a reform Ministry , but that was an unsafe and insecure state of things , and it behoved tbe

      housetopreparo'for occurrences that had takeu place elsewhere In tho memory of hon . members . Even that house ^ Yas so aristooratical as har dly to represent tho feelings of the people , and constituencies were under tHo influence of large landed ' proprietors . He remembered an advertisement of the late Mr . . Robins , in which , speaking of the advantages of a " magnificent estate , " he numberod amongst them the " political influence extending oSfer 1 , 200 hidepenilerit voters . " ( A laugh . ) With ' thesJB pbservations ; ho would propbso an anier idri \ Gn ' t embodying Ihe propositions to wliich he had ' . ' referred , if ho . understood from the right ¦ hori ; geriilbnian in j tho chair that he could move it without preventing a division on the

      oriig nal motion . ' ' ' Thoi'SnuKKR said , the question whether the hon . gentleman oould move his amendment without preventing a , division on the original motion must dopend entirely on the opinions of the house . Sir . DK L . 'EyANS thought there would be no chancoMa ; division ih . favoufof his amondKent , and vrould therefore not trdiibla tho houso by moving it . : ri ' "i - - : •¦ ¦ < '¦ ¦ - - ¦ : -- ¦ • ¦ ¦ ¦•'¦¦ . ¦ ¦ . ;¦ •' ¦ Mr . Aicock complained of respectable persons , parUoulajfyiaeiioai nien ^ ljo , in consequonoe of

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      residing ! n } mma at a rental of not quite £ 50 a-S , n f 1 ? VOte fop tho coun'y- In tlie t 0 ^ n of riMs ' i i ° ? unty h 0 rePresontell , there were v f 11 ^ 101 ! ; > nen in that situation . boGn ' b ? oUZ f (> Ksa ! ' thatne ^ had h' 8 Question tSS fcSi n at a more important time JKLffi r > in o « ' « eq «« i ' cS . of the state sa ^ -sa ^ -agS 3 B ^? teir 35 urned fifty-three members . . There were aLsSthirS boroughs with constituencies between 500 ani 1 , 000 , and sending forty-three members to Parliamont , m which there was no contest , and he michfc assort , without fear of contradiction , that those boroughs wero the private m-oDnriv nfi » m « r . j

      wealthy proprietors , and that tho people in them had no voice or share whatever in the elections . But let him compare those seventy-one borou « hs with fifty of the largest . Tbe gross number of electors in the seventy-one boroughs was 36 7 G 7 whilst in the fifty largest , returning only ninety "m e members , the number of electors was 270 , 247 . uio people knew well that in such a state of things K was no responsibility on the Treasury bench LmL o ^ ni , la rSe- They had had Ministers I , ' lssed . ' ° . jarge cons tituencies , but still they eiecL ? , nm T ? . frora office . If they were wicl . ? aT ^^ ter they came in for Hariotrlil ^ t J f "n » to | iich . hehad belore referred showed thatthe fifty larger borou ? ha returned no moro meinhprsTi 1 , s DO ' S " SSS 5 , r-5 lgl

      many innabitants as the hatter . Of the nmetvni « e members for the seventy-one boroughs sevfen voted for the lion , member for MontrosJf hst mV tion for extending the franchise , forty-three vo ^ ed against it and forty-nine Were absent"Vl the S vmon . Of the members for the fifty borougna foi'ty-seven voted for the same motion , twentysojon against it , and twenty-five were absent from he div sions . AmonaSt thOse who voted against he motion wero twelve occupants of the Treasury Bench , namely the First Lord of the Treasury , the A torney and the Solicitor General , the Chief Poor Law Commissmner , the Second Poor Law Commissioner , a Lord of the Admiralty , a Secretary of the Treasury , and other holders of office , whoso total salaries amounted to £ 25 , 000 a-year . ' Takingtwo f n ? iT ^ T boro "g ha caefi » ° ne from the top and the other from tho bottom of the list , it appeared that each group returned the same num .

      oer oi members , although ono contained forty-one times as _ many electors , and thirty-one times kpSs ^ - ^^^ lajs ST ^ 'JSiffifiSSfiiSJgfe hfty-eight boroughs , whoso united constituenc ' iei amounted to only 19 , 282 voters , being sixty . Swli ;» ( i ^ r ') According to the census 419 % n v T ^ Of the Towcr Hamlets was ~ nL ? ety 1 hrec , moinber 3 of the house re-S W t ^ ™ $ ? ? united Population was 419 , 259 , being 471 less than that of tbe Tower Hamlets . in a house ^ so constituted what chance was ™ . ° * any-Liberal measures bein ? carried ?

      noum tne noble lord at the head of the governmerit bo frank enough to explain how , in the present state of parties , he meant to maintain his position , rri 7 T « ! : , ° P le the befits of pas egisla ion ? He had had opportunities of testing the feeling of the country , and found it in favour of extending tho franchise to the labouring classes . It the noble lord should not divulge a serious intention to improve tho representation- of the people , he and those about him must give way to a stronger party , and the friends of reform would SUDFhfl ? T ^ « - ' ? } w ? uld secnve the P ^ esomething hko beneficial legislation in thatWse . Government could not adopt a wiser course than to occupy themselves during the recess in maturing some great measure of reform . By declaring that to be their intention they would unite their difsatisfied supporters into a phalanx . Tho noble lord at the head of the government well knew that the supponhe at present received was reluctantly given , and that many members had been censured bv their constituencies for the votes they had given to jnamtniBi the existence of the government ( Hear , hear . ) Jf ministers should still preserve silence on he subject of reform , they wuld do more than destroy their official existence , and prove ' themselves recreants to the principles they once avowed . They would betray the Liberal cause into tho bands of its enemies , and do all in their power to reverse the pol . oy to which they had so often dcclaved their intention of adhering to , and , instead of earning the gratitude of the countrv . bv following

      SS ;« W 0 5 u m wh ! the . noblv "' gaged twenty years ago , they would receive and deicrve the condemnation of the people for trusting rather to patronage and the eleemosynary support of gentlemen on tlie other side of the house than to the justice pio ! ^ teful aitachment of the British iiation . Mr . IlKNnTDEnMjroND said , he had so often ad-St , " ^ county the-resolution submitted iorSa h ? \ leJc ' l lt taPOMibleto avoid suppoitmgit now ; but m so doing he waa more ZH' ? r Parat ° T self froma «^ eiSguments ^ hieh had been urged in its favour by hon . gentlemen opposite . ( Hear , and laughter . ) Tlie motion in itself Avas very simple . It could produce no harm ; and , as the bill could not pass during the present session , under any circumstances , he wonld be sorry if government should think it Worth Vfhilo to oppose it . ( Laughter . ) The hon . member who ast

      yKe saw he Had tested tho feeling of thepeofinJn ! ° T i . f C 0 U " ,- That was a slip of the tongue . Xhe hon . member meant to have said , not ; that Ho was a tester , but an exciter of feeling . Hear , and laughter . ; fle had read accounts of the ion . members proceedings whilst following that lnuuablo occupation . ; It was impossible to doubt the fact of excitement prevailing in the countrv , because the party to whom tho hon . member said the noble lord at the head of tho government owed his position had avowed that the whole of these reform measures wore proposed with a view to the cstafe' ? » ^ public . ( "No , no , " from the Ministerial benches

      . ) "Yes , " continued tho hon . member , " you know very weir that it is so . " ( A laugh ) One of the lion , members opposite had declared that he always went to a public meeting with extracts from tho speeches of the hou . member tor Buckinghamshire , which served him as a sort of pocket pistol , ready to be discharged if occasion sewed . Sow , he liked to follow a good example , and Ue ^ viis prepared with his pocket pistol , which lie would dischargo at hon . members opposite if they ventured to challenge him . ( A laugh . ) If he were driven to quote , tho Reformers might find themselves sontiewhat embarrassed by the extracts ho would read : — .

      " That eagle ' s fate and mino are one , Who , on the shaft that saw him die , Espied a feather of his own , With which ho wont to soar so high . " ' " . ¦ ( " Hear , " and laughter . ) The inequalities in the representative system which tho hon . member for tho Tower Hamlets had pointed out ,, formed the ground on which reform had always been advocated in this country . The arguments now employed by the hon . member . we ' re used by reformers in old times , and were answered by Mr . Canning in this way—that what you call representation , that was to say a certain number of persons returning-a certain number of members , was never the constitution of England . ( Hear . ) It was tho

      constitution of the present French Republic , but it never was tlie constitution here . Tbe members returned to the English Ilouse of Commons wero always tho representatives of interests , and thus the voters for the representatives of land in the counties and of trade in the towns possessed different qualifications . It must be granted that tho , Reform Act had destroyed that original principle of our representative constitution , and looking at the principles on which the Reform Act proceeded , lie did not think it was possible for the government to avoid adopting the scheme of electoral divisions ,, but if they should adopt it it would be utterly incompatible with the existence of every one" of the institutions of the country . ( Hear , hear . V Establish

      electoral divisions and all power would at ouco bo lodged in the hands of the shopkeepers , for they were tho most numerous class . Tho hon . members over the way announced it to be their intention to keep up continual agitation , wliich thoy thought essential to the existerico of tho government . Indeed , thoy seemed to suppose that the uso of a government was to agitato . ( Hear , hear . ) They also talked of the necessity of Ministers introducing what ^ ero called <( large an d liberal measures , * by wluoh-it was conceived they , would succeed in giving stability to thegovernment ' . How a gov 6 rninent could be stablewhich was always engaged in agitation , hedidnot Know . ( "Hear , " and laughter . ) Uor -was it easy to discover what was meant

      by the word " liberal" unless it was employed to keep the word " Republio out of ' sight . ; ( Hear . ) lhe phvase , "larec ' and'liberal measures " meant nothing else than placing all power " in the hands of tho people , to the . exclusion of tho Crown , the House : of Lords , and all those classes which hon . members opposito called tho " aristocracy . " ( Hear , hearO There was no doubt alou ^ . the matter—the honest portion of the ft y " avowed that to be their object . The hon . number for the Tower Hamlets seemed to think'that-a member of PurHament should always , voto * with a view : p pleas'in ^ his oonstitucrits . ' It' was his ( Mr . Drurn ^ mond ' s ) belief that no man could faithfully disoharge his duty as a member of Parliament who looked to pleaaing hia constituents by the . votes it

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    • Northern Star (1837-1852), July 13, 1850, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1582/page/7/