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      FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE . ( Concluded from the Second Page . ) ( From the'Daily News . ' ) March of the Romans against the 1 S eapolitass -Rome , May 4 , -Tg-day sets oat the expedition against King Bomba : it is 15 , 000 strong and commanded by Garibaldi . Nothing can equal the encouraging shouts bestowed by the ladies on the troops as they pass through the streets to the gateofSt . JohnLateran . The king is said to be at Larida , behind Albano ; part of his force is at Valmontone , under Zucchi . Princes Doria -md Borghese are in the ranks , or else with fhebazgasrecarte , and yet their splendid palaces in Rome are held inviolate by the people . ^^^^^ V' ^ T ^ T ^ 9 ^^ W - ^ T v «« ffa __ ^ . ^^

      Jrom Term arrived to-day 1 , 500 men , 1 st and 2 nd battalions of the line . The Ponte Molle was blown up yesterday ; so this letter goes round by the Sabine territory . Fxoas " Viterbo came the whole national Guard , m \ h a complrte battery of field guns . Men are coming in more than are wanted ; and not a single town or village in the ¦ w hole Roman territory has declared against the present government . The barricades are augmenting in number and in formidable strength . Immense use is made of the church confessional boxes , which , being ponderous articles of furniture , are found quite suitable for blocking np the progress of a retrograde' enemy . The mint is coining silver and gold plate night and day .

      DEFEAT OF THE XEAPOUTAXS BY THE BOMAXS . Rome , May 5 . —The follotuug official intelligence of the nrst affair between the Roman and Neapolitan troops was published at Rome this day , by th ° Minister of Forei gn Affairs : — " The following ate Par'iculars of toe first rencontre , on the road between Torre di Mezza and Albano , between our troops and a corps of Neapolitans , whichat first were fcUW in number , but were afterwards increased to 2 . 000 . The enemy were put to flL-ht , and threw away theirfire-arms , leaving sixty prisoners and two pieces of artillery in our possession , which are now —three o ' clock , p . m . —entering Rome . ( Signed ) The Minister , Carlo Ruscoxi . "

      { From the * Daily . News . ' ) The French prisoners , of whom we still hold 300 or-100 , out of 600 who were captured outside the walls , do not wish to be exchanged ( as Oudinothas asked ) , but call for arms and permission to be led against the Neapolitans . Not a single village has yet declared for the Pope throughout the length and bieaiith of the Roman territory . The National' states that at a Council of War held at General Oudinot ' s head-quarters at which the Ministers of Great Britain , France , and Prussia attended , a resolution was adoped at the Council to unite the French and Neapolitan troops , and to march against Rome . The 'National' states that notwithstanding this strange alliance the Romans are determined to resist . SARDINIA . —On the morning of the 7 th , the

      sentence pronounced upon General Ramorino was posted in the streets of Turin . The Council of War lad-condemned him to degradation and death , on the following count : —• That on the 20 th of March last hehadksowingly omitted to take with the fifth divisian of Lombards , then under his command , a strong position at La Cava , and thereabouts , on the left bank of the Po , as he had been directed by a written order , dated Alessandria , the 16 th of that month , from the Cqramander . in Chief and that he had re . mained , contrary to that order , on the right bank of the Po with the greater part of his division , t ' ms permuting the entrance of the enemy by Pavia , and thereby endangering the safety of the Piedmontese army . " The king mitigated the sentence to that of death without degradation . But Ramoiino having appealed to the Court of Cassation , the execution has been suspended till the decision of that court be

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      SICILY . Palermo sot yet Sdbdced . —The peace government had been overturned by a band of mountaineers , beaded by Scordati . Whilst the deputies and principal inhabitants were absent on a mission to KJangeri , it appears that a celebrated partisan , called Scordati , at thehead of an immense number of mountaineers , rushed into the town , disp ' aced the new Provisional Government , and disarmed all the National Guards who refused to join them . Defiance to the Neapolitans wa » once more proclaimed , barricades were thrown up , and every possible preparation made for a resolute defence .

      INSURRECTION IN CANADA . Xtvebfooi ., May 14 . —By the arrival of Ihe British and North American royal mail steara-sliip Enropa , Captain Lott , in our river this evening , we are put in possession of advices one fortnight later than any heretofore to hand . The political news from the United States is not more than ordinarily interesting , bnt the apprehensions which were felt as to the breaking out of rebellion in Canada have been My and fearfully realised .

      On the 25 th ult , that long discussed and obnoxious measure , the Rebellion Losses Indemnity Bill , received the sanction of the Governor-General , and the news being circulated , all the peat-up wrath of the " loyalists" of the province began forthwith to expend itself . lUuting immediately became the " order" of the day . The inhabitants collected en masse , proceeded to the Parliament House , drove out all the members present by force , and set fire to the building . In a short time the House , library , archives—in fact the entire premises , were one heap of ashes . The firemen and police were called on to interfere , but absolutely refused . Emboldened by the success of their attempts , they assaulted Lord Elgin , pelted him publicly with missiles , and severely abased several of the representatives who had become prominrPt in support of the bill .

      Montreal , April 26 . —Yesterday afternoon it was publicly announced that his Excellency would go down to Parliament and sanction numerous bills , particularly the one relating to the customs . It was never presumed for one moment , however , that , the notorious and detested " rebel bill" was to be one of them . At four p . m ., the hour appointed f- r the ceremony , a fair assemblage of people were collected in front of the parJi imentary buildings . It was not till five p . m ., that the governor entered the council chamber , and took his scat on the throne . In the meantime , a rumour had got abroad that tbe " rebel bill" was , indeed , to be assented to . The report quickly spread , and before the conclusion of the ceremony a crowd , numbering about 1 , 500 persons , were collected together to receive the representative of British sovereignty , with the long announced honours . The royal sanction was given toforiyehrht bills , amongst which , the crowd were informed

      by those who had been in the interior of the buildings , was the obnoxious bill . About six o ' c ' ock his Excellency entered his carriage , and was driven off at a rapid rate , amidst curses , yells , hootoigs , and a shower of rotten eggs , dirt and stones . Lord Elgin had . to run tbe gauntlet of the . various missiles , for the distance of 100 yards . The carriage windows were down , and Colonel Bruce was inside with him . Three eggs entered the carriage , and some struck his lordship in the face . Horses , equipage , footmen , &c , were all completely covered wish the unsavoury missiles . Tne staff fared very litre better . The iact of the royal sanction haying been given to the " rebellion losses" bill , now spread like wildfire . By seven o ' clock a ' ann bells were ringing all over the town , and crie * went throagh the streets calling a mass meeting to be held ou the Champ de Mars , at eight o ' clock . By the appointed time , upwards of two thousand people ha-i assembkd , and by sine o ' clock it had swelled to 5 , 000 .

      One of the leaders of the mob got upon a chair , and addressed them in a violent and inflammatory manner , amidst repeated deafening -cheers . He said : " The time for action has arrived . . We must work . We have passed resolutions enough—they hav * beendisregarded . To the Parliament House I " A chord in the hearts of the vast multitude had been touched , which every heart re-echoed . The moving thousands , preceded by torches , marched at a furious rate in the direction of the legislature . By ten p . m . eight thousand persons were in front of the buildings , where the Assembly was in full session at the time . A shower of stones " as thick asleaves in ITalambrosa , " were poured upon the windows , which , from the brilliant manner in which they were lighted ,

      afforded a most tempting mark . When the stones came pouring into the windows , the members of the Assembly thought it time to retreat ; and retired info the lobby , there to await the issue of ihe events . No sooner had the members left , than abont one hundred of the mob , aimed to the teeth , rushed into the Assembly-room , and their leader , swearing he would come Oliver Cromwell over them , placed himeelf in the Speaker ' s chair , assumed the hat , and announced , with stentorian lungs , " Gentlemen , the French Parliament is . dissolved ! ' * adding , '' and we are all going to h-11 ! " One-brawny fellow then seized hold of the mace , which , from the Hon-e being in committee at the time , lay on the table , and havine shouldered it marched ^ qhv ,. The rest set to

      "work , and the destruction commenced . Whilst this body of men were smashing everything inside the Legislative Assembly , room , a cry of fire was suddenly raised . In lie meantime Colonel Gust , heading the members , clerks ,. and ladies , rushed through the hall of the house , and oat at tbe principal door , agreeably surprised at not finding themselves stopped . " The fury aHd ' rapidity ~ with which the flames- spread can hardly , be imagined ; in less than fifteen minutes the whole of the wing occupied by the House of ABsembly was in ! flames , and , owing to the int mate communications between the two hohses , the Upper House was rapidly involved in J&a same destruction . - - -v - The mob had now amounted to almost incredible

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      numbei'S . ^ and remained stoical spectators of the scene . The troops arrived shortly afterwards , and were received with loud cheers , which several companies of the 23 rd regiment returned . One soldier a private , fired his musket in the air ; he was immediately arrested , and sent to the guard-house . Bv eleven o ' clock , nothing but the smouldering ruins of the house—in which a measure fraught with injustice and iniquity was introduced , passed , and received the royal susent—remained ; a fitting tribute to the rage of an insulted people .

      None regret the loss of the buildings ; everyone the splendid libraries , in which were the archives and records of Canada for hundreds of years ; valuable works from every quarter of the globe were heaped in profusion within those walls ; eleven hundred volumes of mmis of the British House of Commons , ot which no other copy was extant , were destroyed J \ ot eighty dollars worth of property was saved . The loss is irreparable , and is i egretted by all . The Queens picture was saved from the burning buildings , hut destroyed in the streets . - Tie party in charge of the nr . ee carried it toDonrgana ' sHote ' , and there placed it in the hands of Sir Allan McNab .

      Ao lives we- 'e lost . T . B . Turner , Esq , of the Mon treal Courier , Sir Allan McNab , and the Hon . W . Badgely , in attempting to save some books from tbe library , were nearly lost . They were obliged to drop the work ? , and rush for the Legislative Council chamber door , which , to their horror , they found locked . Their cries were heard by a party in the library of the- counci' , who had axes , and ! the panel was smashed in ; they then escaped by a ladder from the balcony . It was rumoured amongst the . mob , that the French members wire hid in the cellars , ani would be destroyed by the fire . The announcement was received with the most brutal cheers . At twelve

      o clock , satisfied with the work of the evening , the multitude dispersed . His Excellency , the Goveruor-General , with his family , came into town , and remained all night under the protection of a large guard at Government . Ilnuse . Early , this morning , Messrs . Mack , Howard , Mbktgomerie , and Ferries , proprietor of the Montreal Gazette , were arrested on a charge of arson . They were taken before the police magistrates , and a'ter an examination of a Jew hours , remanded to gaol till to-morrow . . The excitement during the day was intense . A mob of 3 , 000 persons accompanied them to the gaol . Thr ouuh the influence of the r leaders , tbe mob were prevented from any ontbreak . Dal they chose to do SO , the 100 soldiers who guarded the cabs would have soon been settled . But it was represented that more good would arise from their incarceration fora fiiw honrs .

      In the evening it was announced that . a meeting would be held on the Champ de Marsi to-morrow at two o ' clock , the Hon . George Moffa $ . < 6 6 e in the chair , when the peace and safety of the country will be discussed . It has already been , decided , that safety and peace can only be insured by his Excellency so'ug home . Notice will be given him to qui ; the confine * of Canada before the expiration of the week . Sir Benjamin p . 'Urban . is to be called upon to administer the affairs of the country till he receives tidings from home . A French magistrate , named Arniofc , who * ent to ' the gaol with the prisoners , was nearly torn to pieces by the inob . An assemblage of persons was collected outside the Government House during the whole day , for the purpose of laying hold of the ministry , " and were only prevented from entering the house by the presence of the military , with whom it is the determination of the British party not to quarrel , and it was also the military ' s desire . ' ¦

      In the evening of the 5 th the mob set fire to Mr . Lafontaine's house . The out-b ' nildings were set on fire , and the , house completely gutted , furniture smashed , magnifisent pier glasses broken to pieces , feather beds ripped up , and every sort ' . of destruction possible . ' . On the 1 st of May Mr . Boulton was to move in the House of Assembly for a dissolution of the two provinces . The swearing-in of , a number of Frenchmen as special onstables caused a great . increase to the excitement . One report states that the constables fired upon a large body of the rioters . So intense became the excitement in . consequence of the arrival of ths French , that the Goyemor-General had to give orders for their arms to be taken away . Strong apprehensions were entertained of still greater violence .

      The accounts from the country were very alarming ; in some places the authorities were compelled to assist in burning the effigy of the Governor-General

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      Saturday , Mat 12 . robbekt from the pkrson by a doicdmas .- — Edward Keyser , aged 24 , a Dutchman , was indicted for stealing thirteen sovereigns , the monies of Wm . YanderDeyl , from his person . —The jury returned a verdict of Xot Guilty . " Charge of Cutting ajjd Wounding . —H . Antwieler , aged 32 , and C . Meg , 31 , a cook , were indicted for cutting and wounding Fritz Touvett , with intent , &c . The whole of the witnesses being foreigners , were examined through the medium , of interpreters . —The jury found Antwieler " Guilty" on the whole charge , andFieg of a common assaulter-Mr . Bullock sentenced Antwieldcr' to twelve months ' imprisonment and hard labour , and Fieg to throe . This being tbe last case , the court adjourned until Monday the 11 th of June .

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      Z TLFOKD PETTY SESSIONS . —Sacthdat . Firing at a Railway Train . —G . Skeltoh and 6 . Edye , clerks in a mercantile office in the City , about sixteen years of age , were . charged with firing a pistol at a passenger train on the Eastern Counties Hallway , near the 'Forest-gate Station : The prisoners pleaded " Guilty . "—Mr . Pelham , for the defence , said the prisoners were schoolfellows , and were most respectably connected . On the day in question they visited their old schoolmaster ; and

      took with thorn a pistol arid some powder to fire off in the fields . The discharging the pistol at the train was entirely a mistake , and the prisoners had no intention of alarming the passengers . The prisoners regretted the foolish act they had committed , and were quite ready to offer any apology to the company . —The Chairman said he believed the act was done wantonly , but not with any malicious intentions . The prisoners were then fined twenty shillings each , and cautioned as to their future conduct . —The fine was paid .

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      ^ P * ~ ^~ iMrOBTASI DECISIOX CSDER . THB POOR LAW . —A few days ago an officer of the Leeds board of Poor Law guardians appeared at the Court House of that town , and applied to the mayor ( Mr . John Hope Shaw ) and two of the other magistrates of the borough for an order to remove a pauper and his family to Ireland . He had lived in Leeds twentyseven years . The fact of chargeability was proved ; and that the pauper had lately been imprisoned for a month in the Borough Gaol for neglect of family . It . was insisted that this breach of residence rendered him and his family liable to removal . The officer of the board of guardians said that the pauper had admitted to him that he was born in Cork . The pauper , who spoke with an Irish accent , denied having made that admission , and objected to beinff removed . After the mayor and magistrates

      had consulted together for some time on the case , and examined the Acts of Parliament , the Mayor said , " Whatever we might think of the hardship of removing a family to Ireland , under such circumstances as those of the present case , if we found that the law directed the removal , we should not hesitate to carry it into effect . It is our duty ^ to administer the law as it stands . But we think the law has intrusted a discretionary power to magistrates in such cases . AVhat . might have been the duty of the magistrates upon an application by overseers , under the 3 rd and 4 th of William IV ., c . 40 , it is unnecessary to inquire , as that statute is repealed ; and this branch of the functions of overseers is transferred to the guardians in parishes where guardians

      are appointed . The present application is by the mardians under the statute which transferred those functions from the overseers to them , viz ., the 8 tli and 9 th Victoria , c . 117 , s . 2 . The words of that section , so far as regards the question now before us , are , that the ' Justices may hear and examine into the matter of such complaint , and if It-be made to appear to their satisfaction that such person is liable to be so removed as aforesaid ; and if they see fit , they may make and issue a warrant under their hands and seals to remove such person forthwith , at the expense of such union or parish . ' We have heard and examined the matter of the ooaplaint now before us ; we assume / for the purpose of our present decision , that the liability to removal is

      satisfactorily proved ; but we think thafunder the words ' andiftheyseefifc , ' weare entitled to ^ exercise our discretion ( and , if so entitled , that it is bur duty to exercise that discretion with due regard ts the pauper as well as the ~ ratepayers ) as'to the fitness of an order of removal in every case brought before us . In the present case we do not ' see fit ' to grant an orders We think it would be a hardship on the pauper , himself , i f , after he had lived twentyseven years in Leeds , we were to . superadd * to the punishment the law has awarded to his offence ( and which he has already suffered ) the far heavier punishment of what would be virtually a sentence of transportation for life ; and we think it wouldibe ' a

      still greater hardship on his . family , who have ! com ; initted no crime , to send them to a country entirely new to them , and leave them to struggle for a livelihood amongst strangers pr'depend on their chirity . We shall , therefore ^ de cline to make an order of re- ' moval in this . case , unless we are' told by higher authority that it is our duty to do so . " The practice in Leeds has hitherto been , as we believe it has in other S parta of the country ^ ito remove all Irish paupers to ' their native country if they have not a five years' continuous settlement in the town , ; the magistrates believing they had no discretionary power ifl'the matter . - ' ¦ " ¦ '' ¦

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      [ A pressure on our columns at the late period when Mr . Drummond made his speech inHhe ' House of Commons last week prevented us from givimMt in full , which we now do . ] Xatiosal " Taxation-. — . Mr . Dhummoxd rose to bring forward the following motion : — " That the House resolve itself into a committee , to consider the public expenditure and the existing system-of taxation , and how far both may be revised , with a view to relieve the pressure upon the industry of the country . " It might be said that he exaggerated the importance of "this motion in declining " to , give way to a question which was to follow , but whatever the House might think upon ; the subject , he believed that throughput the country there was a far greater majority of persons anxious to be relieved from the burden of taxation , thaii to be

      pormittedto marry their wives' sisters . ( Laughter . ) Ho might have an exaggerated idea of the importance of his motion , "but he considered it to' involve ihe very question which had overthrown every throne in Europe , and would shakc- . the stability of our own , if not speedily settled . Last year he expressed his surprise that her Majesty ' s ministers had not themselves proposed some plan of finance in relief of taxation adequate to the universal demand then made for it , or if unable to" devise such . a plan themselves , had not used the assistance of a select committee of that House .- His surprise was founded partly ori the peculiar circumstances ' under which they had been appointed , partly on account of the great agitation there was then in the country on the subject of taxation , and partly from the

      expectation derived from the recollection of their speeches when out of office , which expectation those speeches were intended to excite . ( Hear , hear . ) At the ' close of the session he liad regretted that the government gave no indication of such-intention , and had said that it would be necessary for some independent member to take the matter up—not for the sake of making an ephemeral , speech , 'but to draw from the House a plain and intelligible declaration—that the country inighV know what it had to expect at their hands , and also to lay down broad and intelligible principles for the guidance not only of the present ministers , but of any .. who might succeed them ., ( Hear . ) He believed there never was an instance of successful rebellion against the" ruling classes in any nation , except' from the

      operation of the higher . 'He used'the word higher , because it mattered nothing whether the government took the form of absolute or limited monarchy , or republic ; : for , as feudal violence went out fiscal exaction came in . In" either case the people had had taken from them that which ought not to have been taken . The extravagant wars of Louis X 1 T ., and his waste of his people ' s money in puerilities , caused the distress and misery that broke out in the days of his great , grandson , and shook him from the throne . Our debt , had begun with the wars of the house of ' Hanover , had , " since gone on increasing , and had reached a point which would have appeared fabulous to the original contractors of the . debt . ( Hear , hear ;) The time was now come when , if the legislature would not . have

      the manliness to look their position in the face , and dare to grapple with it in quiet times ,, it would be taken up in unquiet times , and attended withi all the miserable . aggravations' which : always accompanied the outbreaks of infuriated mobs . ( Hear , hear . ) If they would shut their ears to the voice of history , and their eyes to the- events that had passed around them for the last fifty years—if they would suppose that they had stfme charter from heaven to preserve them from that which * had befallen every , other nation whilst pursuing the same course—if they would defer taking those stops which alone could avert the evil , there was no help for the oountry . If they would sit with selfish and listless indifference , content that thing ' s should last durinsHheir official existence—if there was-no

      course left to those who used to boast in the name of British statesmen but to have all thoir faculties absorbed in ambition , their hands and feet bound in maintaining things as they were—there was nothing ; for it but to wait another wave of that deluge of democracy which had already overwhelmed every government hi Europe , and bad more than threatened our own . ( Hear , hear . ) He did not say that any measure he might recommend would save the State ; but if the legislature would part with its selfishness , "be just and fear not , "—be determined to relieve the poor , and so far feel for them as to resolve that they should be relieved , that might under God ' s blessing be a means of lengthening the tranquillity . ( Hear , hear . ) If they did grapple with the question they must lay hold of it honestly , not

      amuse the people with'a delusive hope , and thus increase their mortification , They must be honest in their endeavours , and to be houest they must revise every part of their taxable system . ( Hear . ) And they must be prepared to part with many favourite associations , many privileges , and many long-cherished habits . ' He held it to be a princip le that we ought to pay for protection in proportion to the value of that which was to be protected , and in proportion to the value of the social condition of the people . ( Hear . ) He had stated on a former occasion that , out of our population of thirty millions , one million of "families were in the greatest distress ; another million consumed double the quantity of those below them ; a third million consuming three times as much ; a fourth , four times

      as much ; and a fifth million consuming five times as much as all the rest put together . The taxation ought to proceed on the principle of letting the lowest class go free altogether ; and laying on' tlie whole of the taxation on the same principle as the assessed taxes . It ^ Yas impossible to impose taxes so that they should not press upon labour indirectly ; they ought , therefore , by every means in their power , to relieve the parties thus necessarily burdened . Men ought to be made to pay id proportion to the stake they held in the country . Lord Althorp had onee said that this would bo confiscation ; but it was obvious that it was of very little importance to a day labourer who sat in the House of Lords , or who sat on the throne , or who were the owners of certain estates . As Mr . Macaulay had once said in

      the FAinburgh Review : — "It is poor consolation to a man who has had no dinner , and is going to have no supper , to kno \ v that the Queen cannot make war without the consent of parliament . " ( Laughter . ) These resh'ictions were exceedingly valuable to those who profited by them ; but to the large mass of mankind they were wholly nugatory . There was another reason for pursuing the course he recommended . ¦ He did not agree in the assertion often made on the other side , that the taxes had been . intentionally made to press on other interests by the landed interest hav / ng the command of a' majority in both houses . The reverse had been proved most clearly by the honi member for Bucks . But he admitted that , just intho same way as there was , unintentionally ^ an indirect tendency in masters

      always to combine against their labourers , so there was an indirect tendency in the legislature not to make taxation equal , —equal in a certain' sense , but unequal in another sense ; equal in the sense of . poll-tax , which was the most unequal of all taxes ; for it could not be denied that to take a pound from a man who had only £ 10 , was much more than to take £ 10 from one having £ 100 , and to take £ 10 from a man having £ 100 , was more than £ 100 from one . having £ 1 , 000 , or £ 1 , 000 from one having £ 10 , 000 . v There ought , therefore , to be constantly an intention on the part of the . House , in all these modes of taxation , to relieve , the very lowest and press upon the highest ; for , if there was not that intention , the involuntary effect would be , that the taxation would press more upon the lower

      order than the higher . The hon . member for Finsbury -was constantly repeating that the people would never have justice done them till they elected their own representatives . He did . not believe they would get " a bit more justice in that way , unless the principle he had now pointed out were recognised . He should certainly propose in committee a resolution to the . effect , " Thatin . order to alleviate the burden of taxation , it is necessary , as far as possible , to levy all taxes , the stamp and other duties , on the same principle' as that on which the assessed taxes are levied . ' The . object ; - for sometime past , had been to reduce prices here to the continental level , or rather to the level , which they were formerly . ( Hear , hear . ) He did not object to that , and he believed prices would have come to ite of that miht h beeh

      that level , in sp anything gave . done to prevent it ; he did not believe it was pos ' - sible after a long continuance of peace , to keep up a « reat difference between the prices of this country and Others .- But the taxpayers ; would have . continental prices to . ( Hear , near . ) They would have the whole expenses of government brought back , to what they were in 1794-neither a shilling more nor less ( Heaiv hear . ) It could not be objected to this planj as it was to that of thehon . member for the West Riding , that ; this was an amount arbitrarily fixed ; for the whole of the . official . salaries lad been raised on the express plea ; , that commodities had risen . ( Hear , hear . ) Wheat , which in his memory had been £ 50 a load , was now £ 10 ; contracts had been made in the Hampshire unions for mutton at 3 Jd . apound , and they wou d have . 814 falaries . too : ( Laughter . ) They would hay ^ the also

      free trade svstem carried out in tnis , ( near , iear ) He " bad no pleasure in proposing suph a tfnV-in interfering with the comforts , habits , or future prospects of any'individuals : -A , few nights , lord an hon : gentleman had talked about an act of pHrliament . which was togive confidence to Ireland : riiata blessedacUhat . would be ! . ( Hear , . hear . ] Tf He could devise an act . of parliament which should ^ ve every gentleman who heard him £ 10 , 000 a year ; with nothing to do- he should be happy to propose it < Laughter . ) But the present system' was past endurancl ; and he wanted to relieve the . people , lat they might riot be forced to relieve themselves . nrp-iV hear T One item of expenditure he would Sularly specify-the civil department of the Sy aidLnavj ^ rhe ' alluded particularly tb the large sums that had been thrown ; away , now in time . of peace , to m ake basins for steanv . vessels which ^ had nothing to do . ( Hear , hear . ) The noble-lord at

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      the head of the government ; who was pretty determined when ho took anything in his heady dared not and could not rcduce the salaries in the way they ought to be reduced ,. unless he was forced to ' it "; h ' c never could do it , unless armed with a resolution of the House .- ( Hour , hoar . ) As' to " the colonies , lie believed there never was an abler , more active , or more zealous man thaiu Lord Grey at the head of that department . ¦ . Nevertheless , the colonies were in precisely the condition which , was most to be regretted .- Sir George Murray , . when-at the head of that department , in 1 S 24 , 'had . presented ! a . report plainl y stating that jtwa ' s impossible rightly to govern the colonies except by . a board , and calling on the House to appointone . But ; from that day to this , nothing had been done . . Adam' Smith said

      that the colonies : had always been an expense to the mother country , and that notluns : but her , pride had prevented her giving them up ' . long ago . If there was any pride at all in the case , the mother country ought to act towards the colonies in the same dignified and kind . way that , parents , would : act towards their children , df any of thohv . . children wore enabled , by the advantages they possessed , to establish themselves well in the world , and independently of the father , he rather rejoiced , instead of being jealous and wanting to keep the child in continual pupilage . ( Hear , hear . ) On the otherhand a weak child , unable to support itself , was ever welcome to the parental roof . Let . not the country then , be jealous of a colony which had arrived at mature a « e , and was inclined to take the management of its own

      affairs . ( Hear , hear . ) But these colonies might be made directly advantageous by facilitating emigration to them , by sending out all those unhappy young people who bad been entirely educated in " mons > by , giving them a ' frea passage and grants of land . The fault of . the societies which promoted emigration was , that they exacted too liard conditions from the emigrant , and required tilings which the poor man could not possibly obtain ' . The only qualification for , ; an emigrant ought to bo an empty mouth ' and an ; . empty ' ; stomach . ( Hear , hear . ) The colonies would , give abundant occupation to such persons ; and this would be indirectly profitable to the mother country , by making them better customers , then they . were . ( Hear . ) But let not the colonies lay . the flattering unction to their sbiils that

      tliey . could ever become sugar manufacturers . The cane was indigenous' in very "' few places ; by forced prices it had been cultivated in spots whorc . it only lasted one yeav . In all those grounds , between the places where it was perennial , and those where none grew at all , . it . -was " simply forced by what was called protection , but which was . in fact an expensive way of manufacturhr g , ' which they might rest ; assured was gone for ever . '( Applause . ) But : if they would encourage their labourers to grow provisions , they , wouU abundantly supply this . country ; with all tho grain ; it wanted ; and here again it might be seen how impossible was theattemptto restore the bread-tax . ( Hear . ) . He could not too strongly reprobate ¦ tho conduct of those persons who were taking . advantage of the

      distress of the tenantrfantier at thistime , and running about the country / persuading vthem that if they were returned to parliament they oould succeed in restoring a 5 s . duty . ( Hear , hear . ); He had never taken any part in that . bread-tax agitation ; He saw , or . thought he saw , that it was nothing but a contest between two interests , two solfishnessosthe selfishness of the . landlords , and . the selfishness of the cotton-lords . ( Laughter ^) Still he did not say that all solfishnpss was equally bad ; for . ' , one might be a destructive selfishness , and the ' other highly conservative . So long as it was necessary to raise a revenue , so long must they have a customhouse . Disguiso monopoly as they would , it ' was . 'in point of fact , taking something from everybody else to put into the pockets of the person protected .

      ( Hear , hear . ) Every protection ef one class of capitalists against another was wrong . ( Hoar , ' hear . ) But there was a constant tendency of . all masters to combine against their workmen ; and for this the labourer was no match . . ( Hear , hear . ) . The capitalist could command any market he , pleased ; but tho labourer could command' no market but his next door neighbour . ¦ That was tho ground upon which the crown—the common parent—should stretch forth its hand to protect them againt the capitalists of every kind . In other words , they should encourage by their custom-house ; duties the home . markot . When one capitalist disposed of his produce to another , he put in action another mass of capital ; if that other mass of capital for which he exchanged it was in ' the homo market ,, it employed . another

      mass in that homo market—in other words ,, it . ensured employment to the home labourer instead of the foreign . ( Hear , hear . ) ' People were very ready to blame their rulers for extravagance , but they had quite as many little pet extravagances of their own ; Had it not boon for the . plea of the people , no government would have thought of abandoning the Post-office revenue ,, which bonefitted no . one but merchants and ¦ banker ' s ! " ' ( Hear . ) Why did they throw away an immense sum ' annually in " palaces for thievos , because , instead of flogging thieves , they would tench them to spell —( laughter)—and , instead of killing murderers , they -would put a mask upon them ' , and make them read " The Whole Duty of Man ?" ""¦( Great laughter . ) It was the same with- 'the-endeavours ; making to force the

      people to become admirers of art— -pictures ; palaces , statues , and no one-knew whab . lie -would not say a word against these things if the country was overflowing with wealth ; but , in its present state—as it would be improper and immoral for a private individual to waste his money in such things when it . was required for other purposes—so ought they to abstain from such tliiiiss at present .. Healmoifrfcarod to morition Ireland , But could ,. ; not pass -ifciby ,-- because , by a change in its management , the most immediate and direct saving might be made . ' . Seeing that in Ireland they were actually incapable of finding n / m . in guilty who declared himself to bo ' so With his own mouth ; he / would get rid ofailbtho foolish paraphernalia of , judges , jury , and'learned counsel . ( Laughter . ) Why not re-enact the old Saxon law ,

      which fined a barony' or township for every act of outrage , and add to that a . penalty- ' for ' every . ' man that w . is found starved to dontk ? ( Hear , hear . ) This was the course which . had , formerly been pursued with Wales and Scotland , and , indeed , the whole of the empire ; - . and by ; this course , they might at once disband a . very 'large portion of the army and police in Ireland , and thus , obtain relief from a great burden . . ; It was all ' very well to talk of shifting-the burden of taxation , and of reducing salaries ; but . the effect of . such , alterations would be rather , moral than material .,... It . " would be chiefly beneficial , as showing a determination on the part of the higher classes-to make sacrifices for the benefit of , the people . i'The public debt of £ 800 . 000 , 000

      ibogan at the- same -time as the- miseries "of France ; it went on increasing , throughout the reign of the Georges—perhaps it was incurred in . the beginning as a punishment to ' the country for turning off its lawful king —( laXightovJ- ^ and at last' it had come to a pass which made the burden greater than any people , had ever endured . He knew that there had been an endeavour to lighten it by throwing it on a greater mass of the population . What was the use of tolling a man that ho was rich because he had a large estate , when the farmer had to give four sheep in exchange ^ instead of one , ten' fleeces instead of one , three loads of wheat instead of one , and to pay- the same amount of taxes as he paid years ago ? The nominal amount " of capital was not

      nocessarily commensurate with the amount of taxation paid . All the ministers by whom the debt was ineurred had successively confessed that , unless something | were done to afford relief , it must end in ' ruin of tho country , If tlioy consulted parliamentary history , and especially Sir John Sinclair ' s history of tlie public debt , . they would find evidence of the truth of that statement .. Mr . . Pitt continually spoke ; of g iving indemnity for the past and security for the future . He agreed with the Birmingham school , that the debt hadnbeen immensely : aggravated by the bill of 1819 . Tho . man . who . had understood the question . best . wa ' s . Mr . Ricardo ,. who did not think that the deprcciatioKhad taken place upon the whole ' of the currency , both gold and paper . But it was too late to : go into that question now .

      If a person arrived from California to-morrow with gOO . millions in gold , and ; paid the whole into the Exchequer , althoiigh there -would , in consequence , be an immediate revision' of the ; great mass , of taxation , it-was doubtful whether 'the disturbances which would take place throughout the whole social system would'not involve an amount of evil which wou ^ d ; more -than counterbalance the benefit . It was of great importance that , tlie reduction ; of the debt should be ' gradual . The evil of . the debt was , that it was . an enormous mass < bf capital locked up and unproductive . ' There -were only two ways' of benefittingithe country .. ¦; One was by . bringing capital to the soil ; .. the .. other ,: by ; supplying it ito the manufacturer at alow rate of interest ., ' , The ; general law which prevailed now was that , . tho business . : of the kingdom , whether agricultural or . manufacturing ; was extended at lower . rateB of profit ; . Ihe ' mass of business was increased , but the profits ' were ' diminished .- The landlords and the farmers must

      have capital at . alower rate . of interest ; . ^ mortgage ' s must be obtained at a . lower rate of -interest ; - and the market value of produce must be raised ! Every one would admit the importance of paying . the public debt ; But where was the money to come from ? 'The debt kad gone on so long-that he bel'eved it never crossed their minds that they had to pay it , and the end would be ,, as . JNlr . Cob ^ eri saidJong ' agp , that it , wo ' uild bio w , them tip . ( Laughter . ) Itwas essential to the Healthy management of bur affairs that , the object should be effected gradually ; and ' the' way' in which he ' proposed to 1 accomplish if was by ^ empowering the Chancellor of the Exohequoivandftho ' government ,. to buy up the public annuities as > they were offered in the market . To : that he supposed the Chahcellor of the Exchequer would hot object . ( Laughter . ) It'was obviousthat it ' wo'iild'riojfaLt first amount "to ; a ! very great SBihi The mon ' ey should I ) e . rai 6 ed . partlyiby .. a . tax upon property ; aua partly ; by the equalisation of the land tax ; 'the two together being ; exelusiyely devoted to the object , Thus proceeding , they ' would never have a glut of

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      capital thrown on , tho market . Had that attempt ,, or any similar one , been made years ago , the consequences would have , been , that . capital would not liavo fone into French railways , Spanish ' bonds , and elsewhere ; ' : Had ,-wiy gone to the colonies it wouW'havo been an . ^ rnil ' tag ? to this country . Comparatively little would now go a broad , and there would be a power of control in the hands of the executive . He called upon those who really felt the importance of these financial subjects to vote for going into committee ; and ho ' would observe that , thoro . wsss nothing to prevent hon . members , whose views did not harmonise with his own , from tacking on to his motion any . other subjects that they wished to introduce , lie conjured those who had opposed . what were called , the financial . reform movements not to be leilbv the fear that such movements wore used as

      a mesh ,, for : icovert Attack on tlie institutions , and defences of . the country , to set up a dogged opposite everything , that might be proposed . ; but to go into committee where all these matters might be properly discussed .. Above all , lie pr .-ij-ed those goiitlonion ^ -the few amongst them in that Housewho knew . something of , the service of government , and who .: alone were . ifittc . d to deal with such questions , . not to be persuaded that relief was impossible hiorely . because , thp means of affording it had not crossed their official minds , and ; they , could find no example . in the . recorils of history . Lot not the House imagine that the question would end there , or persuade itself that aiiy other question could be discussed witliin those walls to . which the people at large looked . with , so . lively an ' interost , or upon which . depended , so much tlie tranquillity of the

      empire . ,,. ., ; . , ; . . .: . .. ...-. \ in the discussion that ensued the , Cha . xcelt . or of the Exchequer treated tlie motion \ vith great levity and raised a number of objections which excitod " much laughter ! " : . Mr . M > Gibson ( on the part of the . Free Traders ) said that the motion of the hon . member , for Surrey was imexceptibnable in its terms , but , after the speech which had accompanied it , it would be im ^ possible for him to vote for it , without exposing himself to misconception out of door ' s , so replete was that speech with princip les—such as that which contemplated the restoration of' the old postagefrom which ho . wholly dissented . , As , however ; he did not desire absolutely to negative the motion , he would bee leaye . tb move tho previous question ..

      ' Col . SiBTiioRP thought the motion most worthy of the attention of the- House . A groat deal had boon said about the ; j'e . ir 1796 ,. and tne salaries paid to , the public servants then ; but from all he was able tQ learn respecting that time as compared with the present , he could only say that the men employed in carrying on the . public business in 1796 woro much harder woi'ked and znuch better'taught tlian either the ' ministers of the crown , or any other class of g overnment servants , , now appeared to . be . ( Laughter . ) . The Ghahcelldr of the Exchequer was getting too fat ; he and ' his colleagues seemed to bo g lued to their places ; it was so difficult to move them ; ' But he would tell the right hon . gentleman , his relative . ( Sir 0 .- Wood , ) , that lie was the last man who ought to shrink from such an inquiry as that proposed by the hon . member for Surrey .

      ' " 'Tis cohscience makes cowards of us all . ' And that he supposed was the . cause of the repugnance manifested by the government to the present motion ; ' He , however , was determined that the whole question should be sifted to the bottom , if he could-effect that object . The extravagant line of cohduet pursued by sucessivo govornmonts had been too long permitted io be followed . It could not be changed for the worse . The present times required the House'to look closely after the expenditure of the country . Ho thanked the hon . member for Surrey for having brought forward the motion . Though

      he differed from'that hon . member on some points , iie'hadthegreatesfcconfidence in his integrity and honour , and he would give him his cordial support oh ! thc present occasion , in the sincere hope that success would enable him to unravel the trickery , trumpery , and trash which had distingui s hed ail recent governments , beth Whig and Tory . ' Mr ; ConDENmade a long defence of tlie course Which he ' and the so-called Financial Reform Association had pursued , and -repeated the stale fallacies ' o . f the one-sided Free Traders , and after a reply from Mr . Ubumjiono the Heusc divided— . , Forthepreviousquestion ... . ... 151 ; Againstit ... ... 100—51 Sir . Drummond ' s motion wastiierefore not put .

      . I . MONDAY , Mat 14 . HOUSE OF LORDS . —Invasion of Romb . — Lord Beaumont rose to ask certain ques ions of ( the Marqiiii of Lansdowne relating , to the affairs of Central Italy , and began by giving a sketch of the state of tho Papal Government at , the ascension of Pius IX ., of the reforms afct « mpted to he introduced by that Pontiff , and of the Ministers , especially Count Ros 3 i , whom he had selected to aid him'in carrying them out . He sincerely lamented the death of Rossi —( hear , hear )—and although a feeling of joy wai exhibited in Rome at the event ,- he must say that he had the strongest evidence that none of those men who afterwards came into power had any participation in the fatal crime , or the expressions of rejoicing that followed it ; but , on the contrary , they deeply lamented the

      de 4 th of Rossi ; ( Hear , hear . ) 1 he moment he fell , the cardinals thought they might retrace their steps , and : the plan for doing so -was . drawn out ; but the scheme was discovered in time , and the people to a man rose against it . They did not , however , threaten the life of the Pontiff ; they said , on the other hanov that they would rather die on the steps ofhispaliicethaifannir of his head should be injured / They , however , asked h ' m to send away his minister ; to disband the Swiss regiments ; and to take an oath to the form of government which then existed . He declined to assent , because it allowed lawmen'to propose measures ; and he was advised to ltave'Rorae . Now , there was no doubt that if he had'done so in-the faye of . day , no attempt would have been made beyond entreaties to prevent it ; but , ; unfortunately , he left Rome in a manner which showed a want of confidence in his subjects .

      Lord Brougham here made some observation which did not reach the gallery . Irrd Beaumont resumed : He had < lie greatest respect for what fell from tlie noble and learned lord generally , but on this subject he believedjt was im « possible to fathom his motiveSi ( Loud laughter from aUsides of the Housed Ilis assertions agaiu and again were contrary to the facts—and he thought it would not be long before the noble and learned lord heard tifat- his assertions were falsehoods— : . Lord Brougham ( with great excitement ) . I rise to order .. I have allowed the noble baron to go on in the most irregular manner for some time . A Noble Peer .- It is not irregulw .

      Lord Brougham . —I say it is most irregular . The noble baron puts a question and prefaces it with a long speech . - ; The only office of the speech is to make the question intelli ? ib ) e—but to make a long speech and refer to what . was . never heard of before , and to say that any noble . lord ' s assertions were falsehoods ; is most irregular ; and ( added the noble and learned lord , with great vehemence , leaning over the table towards Lord Beaumont ) , I receive the statement , from whomsoever it comes , with the most absolute contempt . (" . Hear , hear , " and laughter . ) Lord Beaumont . —1 am doing what the noble and learned lord has said I am entitled to do , I am endeavouring to make the question intelligible : and if my preface has been longer than it otherwise would have been , it is in consequence of the noble lord ' s

      erroneous statements on this stilyeet . . Lord Brougham ( with incresisetl warmth ) . —I i « sk whether it is orderly for ona nobleI lord—upon the information of an Italian , I don ' t know who—to accuse another-peer of parliament of uttering falsehoods ? lie miistreither reti-act or apologise—not to mo , for I despise it ( a laugh)—but to your lordships . Lord Beaumont .-I said the statements put forward were'fftlseho ' ods , but T did ' not suppose ; that tbeywcetlie-falsehoods of the-noble and learned lord :- ( Hear , hear . ) If I had used a milder word it would have meant : the same thing . ( A laugh . ) I might have used the word ' . ' miss . tatement' '—perhaps I oughtnot to have used the word " falsehood , " and 1 therefore ; willingly apologise for having used the word —( hearV . hear)—but my object was to show that

      many of ihe statements which went forth to the public were not in accordance with the truth . ( Ilea " ' , hear . ); The noble lord then resumed , his narrative , ami . having concluded it , asked tlie President of the Council , whether aiiy communication had been made toour government by that" of France of its objects ' andihteiitiorislnoccupying the RomWn ' states ; for he could not for his life discover what those objects and intentions were : ? -What thelrl object was , whether it was the general good of Europe as ; connected with tKe preservation of ^ general peace , or the nafurala ' mbition . of that great state to play the leading part in the restorationof the Pope , or theconse ^ quence of an . agreement with the . other'Catholic powers of Burope ;; he could nottell . . His next question wouW . relate to the proceedings of Austria . lie , did not know that Austria had yet . violated- the Roman territory . Hekhew that she had entered the states Of . Tuscany , but in that ca-e there were certain ' arrangements svhich gaV ' e-Austria , the right , m

      certain contihgenciesi to interfere , in the affairs of Tuscany He did not know , he repeated ,, whether AuUriahad yet . vjolated the Roman . territory , ; but fhe was the lastpbw ^ r froip , ; which , ' ^ . fter . all her re cent ' protestatidns agaiii ' st'inUrference ' , ; U couldhate expected any interterence ' vin'a struggle between . a breieni sovereign and his tpeople ' . 11 Another ^ power alsOnhad interfered ythe-King of Naples ^ -he / who had so .. often-protested against any . . interference , beween Wmat ^ d his sacrificed subjecte . in , Sipily . Whatever , tnight be his ' motives , ' ho had unquestionably violated the ^ nvileges of ' ari'independent state , '' and by marching against Rome hadcommiMed ' a grave offence against : tlie . lawiof nation ' s . <' ¦ ¦ Therefore'it " was that he wanted toknow . whether-. any communication had been leceivedvby our , gpyejcnmentfrpm the ^ ing of Naples , asto hjs . object injoining in , this , expedition '; andfurtHer . 'he Wanted to know whether our government had taken-any measure in concert-with oreign governments on this subject , and whether it

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      remained , ignorant or approved of what had taken place ? ' ¦ . The Marquis of Lansdowxe shortly replied to the first question of Lord BrcAUMorr by stating that a communication had been received from the French government , intimating that the object of the expedition to Civita Vecchia was to promote the peace of Italy , and to re-establish a constitutional ami regular government at Rome . With respect to the questions referring to tho assumed invasion o £

      the Roman territory by'Austria- and Naples , he had to state that no communication whatever had been made on tlie subject to Her Majesty ' s Koveriiment by the governments of Austria and Naples . Of course their lordships , might anticipate , after . what he had already stated , what answer he had to give to tlie last question of the noble lord , as to whether her Majesty ' s government hud taken any part in promoting this tripartite invusion ; and ho had distinctly to answer that it had taken no past in promoting or in sanctioning it . ¦ .. ' „ ¦¦

      The Earl of Aberdeen thought the House had a rMit to expect a more explicit explanation ttwutUat which they had just heard , nor could 'he conceive that tho noble Marquis could have allowed the entry of 20 , 000 French troops into Central Italy excepton some definite understanding . Looking at the public declarations of French official characters , the best thing to be hoped was that they did not spsak truth , because ! otherwise , if those declarations were to be accepted as correct , the matter would be very serious indeed . It was really most extraordinary that the result of that mischievous interference of 11 er Majesty ' s government in the affairs of Italy which began by the mission of Lord Minto should have been to h intervent

      expose that country to r . renc .- ion , and he > could not help thinking that the journey of the noble lord had been practically more fatal than anything else could have been to the real freedom of Italy . ¦ . Earl Mikto declared that he had omitted no op « p « rtunity during his journey of declaring that however desirous her Majesty ' s government might beof seeing wholesome reforms introduced into Italy , yet that they would not hear of or tolerate any change aS regarded the territorial arrangements of the Treaty of Vienna . ' : Lord . BnouGHAM said that if the object of tho noble lord ' s mission was to . keep Italy free from French intervention , he certainly could not congratulate the government oh the ultimate result . ¦ He

      remembered when he was ' in office some years nijohovf he was rated by politicians of the old school for the occupation of Ancona by the-French , but he must say he thought the occupation of Rome by tha French , a much more important matter . He did nofe believe from what he had seen at Paris that the French government kneiv ^ very distinctly what they meant in sending an . expedition to Italy , except , perhaps , it were to satisfy the craving of the mob foe military glory . The Marquis of LojcnoNnERHy was convinced that tbe great desire of the French government and of the President was peace . He was surprised that the noble and learned lord ; who had gone to France with a very large body of Englishmen to fraternise with the population of Paris , should have spoken as hd had done of that population .

      Lord Brougham mos . peremptorily contradicted the story that he went to France with a large body of . Englishmen . He happened to land at the same time with them , but he had no communication with any of them but once , and that was for the purpose of avoiding the supposition tlwt he had anylhingto do . with that most absurd expedition . ' The subject then dropped . 'fheir lordships then went into committee on thd Irish Rate-in-Aid Bill , and after one or two amendments had been agreed to , the bill passed through committee , ami . it ¦ was arranged that the report should be brought up on Tuesday on the understanding that there should be no discussion , and rliat the third reading should take place on Friday next . Their lordships then adjourned .

      . IIOU . SE OF COMMONS . —U . yjusr Taxation . — Mr . II . Drummoxd gave notice that , on the first ; Tuesday after "Whitsuntide , he should move the fol * lowing resolution : — " . That ¦ ' whereas a greater amount of taxation is levied upon the people than is required for the good and efficient government of the United Kingdom ; and whereas , large sums are expended in supporting needless places , extrava * garit salaries , ana unnecossary works and establish * ments ; and , whereas , the , present taxation of the country depresses all classes , and especially the labouring classes , by ( litniniahinct the fund for the em « ploymokt of productive labour , it is tho opinion of the House that adequate moans should be adopted to reduce the expenditure of the government . "

      The Iiusii Policy . —On the order of the day fotf going into committee on the Land Improvement and Drainage ( Ireland ) Bill being read . - - Mr . RoEisucK took occasion to express his oniuioil of the policy—if he could call it by that name—pursued by the government towards Ireland . AftoK reviewing the state into which Ireland had been thrown by the famine , and the opportunity which , then offered for alleviating the condition of the people' of that country , an opportunity which the government had permitted to pass unimproved , the honourable and learned gentleman developed hig views . ' as to tho real causes of Irish misery ' , ¦ ve ' ad some severe lectures to the Irish proprietors , and animadverted upon the bill on : which jfc - ^ g gnno-ht

      to go into committee . Like the sums which had already been voted for Ireland , that now proposed to he . advanced would not be applied bondjide to tha maintenance , of the Irish people , but to the maintenance of the Irish proprietors . Tho doles which , had been already made had boon shamefully misapplied , all classes in Ireland , ' from tho highest to tlie lowest , ¦ scrambling for them in the most barefaced manner . The animus of the Irish members had been developed by Mr . Reynolds , when he said that ho wanted to have a " pull at tho Exchequer . ' * If ; was to have a pull at tho Exchequer that they came there , but , so far as he was concerned , they would not be gratifiod . This bill proposed anothec pull at the Exchequer , and as such he opposed ifc .

      It was part and p ; u-cel of a mischievous policy , which sustained the Irish proprietary under tha guise of . benciitting the Irish people . Tlie Exchequer , at which another pull was proposed , was filled from the hard earned wages of the English people and he could not avoid taking the first opportunity that offered to raise his voice against tho " rapacious desires of an idle , wasteful , and extravagant landed proprietary . " The Irish landlords wi > re ° nofc the real , but the nominal proprietary of Ireland . Tho land , of right , belonged to the mortgagees , and tho mere nominal owners should no longer remain an incubus upon it . Let them cease to be called and to act as Irish landlords , and descend into the simpla character of Irishmen , earning an honest livelihood by their hands and heads . Tlie charity of this country had been ocrgriously misapplied in Ireland .

      Those who should have been tho almoners of tha poor in Ireland appropriated to themselves , in tha most rapacious spirit , the charities of this country . Unless the government put a stop to this , the sources of charity in this country would be speedily dried up . The honourable and learned gentleman prooceded to dilate still further upon too rapacity and immoralities of the Irish landlords , and on his resuming his seat , Mr . John O'Connell and Sir II . Barron sprung to their feet to reply . Mr . John O Cosseli , observed , that although tho thunderbolt hud fallen , Irishmen were not struck down . They had heard for weeks that the bolt was in preparation for them , and in hurling it the honourable and learned gentleman had accompanied the effort with the " grimaces of a mountebank , and "

      .:. ' But . hero Mr . O'Connell was called to order , and sat down . The' Sr > : AiiEii informed him that he had made use of an unparliamentary expression , which , he musfc retract . Mr , 3 . O'Coxxkll retracted the expression , and in reply to Mr . llocbuck ' a charge of immorality , which was indiscriminately launched against tho whole Irish people , asked if there were any child murders in Ireland for the sake of burial fees ? K there were any Irishmen in the Guards whom ifc was dangerous fov a man to approach at ni ght in . a sentry box ? If there were any poisoners or

      procurers ; of abortion in Ireland , or political economists . preaching horrible doctrines- ? Sir II . , W \ Baruon followed briefly in support of the bill , defending the C . 0 nd . UCt Of tho Irish landlords , and avoiding , personalities . . ¦ . .. Lord John Russell ^ observed that Mr . . Roebuck reminded him of Baron Munchausen's horn , which had been frozen up , but emitted svrcet sounds when it had an opportunity of thawing . After ; tho . many Irish debates which they had had that session , the honourable and learned gentleman was mistaken id thinkingthat there was any very great relish for them now . The noble lord then briefly ; defended the

      bill . ¦ ¦ : Mr . Horsman then attaokedthe general . conduct of the government in reference to the . distribution of themoriies voted for Ireland . .: - . ' -., ; . ; . ; . . Sir G . GREr defended tho government against this attack , ' which he treated as altogether : wide of the question raisied by tho bill . . . . ,, . .... . ... Mi :., Keogii replied very indignantl y to Mr . Roe ^ buck , who had already thrice raised his voice , in . the > House in tones of censure- ? : , . .. ; : , , . ' " Thriccthe brindled cat had mewed . "

      Many , of the Irish members attacked Wad been absent , ; and lie trusted that the next time- that the " ' honourable and learned gentleman indulged in the ^ greeri bitter vein , winch pervaded' every inch ' of his .. ; hodyi ) 'ilie . w 6 uld"havethe' courtesy aiidtha ' manliness'to do so in- presence of those -whonVha attacked' : / He was ^ surpMged that Lord John lussellhad ; nofc ; inthe slightest degree ; interfered ictween" the Irish members ; aijd-the taunts ° ftifiii ~ BL . honourable andilearfied gentleman / ' InstoAdfcSK ^ PJSt * ,-doing this ; the noblelord ' had thrown- ^ t / a ^^^^^ jA f § of hig ;^ own ; by ^ alluding to'the ' wearisojHnesS ^ ng ^^ ijtfi © fre ' quenoy of Irish debates / ' M'he wantw »^^ p ^ M- ^* 5-for their frequency , "it would be found iri 10 he * Jg ^ MY ^^ Lj - Sq $ e meal and patchwork legislation of the goTCmnJmtpOTxW-, ' ^ fcg Mr . Roebuck was sot , after all , so daraerati ^ gg f Afff ? * " . p : £ vSi JtWfrii- Nw'k . «* & / £ ^ l 4 ) ¦*

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    • Northern Star (1837-1852), May 19, 1849, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1523/page/7/