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    ^ Mr Child objected to 5 is r .-jnu : ¦ - ' ¦ = > ^ maia " Bieation 3 . .,. Tae Cmip . Mijrsaid . he did not raesn to read 1 ., bat simply to state ihsy called upon tho Asseawy i > disperse . ( Lanjbter . ) , , . ,. Mr Chud b . d b . ea informed that a £ Kal deal ot Eoiey had bsea lately spent in various pans 01 w land bv cc . tiinparties in frier v , br . r . e that Asse ^ UjhuSdi-arace . aBd . there * - * . *«* ^ : ^ ddthat sarorhed fit such le tm » the" . He m « ht add that ^ T ^ BB ^^ gy S J ? J ? S o ^ nisstion-the dofces of local

    ° YMfar said , tefore gningtMhat questi on , he tkoashtthey should more exniiaMy dr-nne tho dn . tk" n ! commissioner * : he would , therefore , move : — ? fim it bi tho duty of the c tinra ssion ' . 'r ? to a ^ ist the Exn-atire ia earning into practical effect tho r . e » plar . ef organisation , t ' eo to coiiect statistical ictortnaJ . ri upan the condition of 1 ha lanouringand middle risers , the number of inch-ideals in different b-an-he 3 of trade and labour , out of employment ; also tha operative causes that have produced such want of employment ; increase of pauperism ant ! p » Trafe 3 ; a ' s-3 to concentrate pabii-jepimon on tae Tsri ' . ns n-e questions of policy that may spring into exUtnce from different classes of Reformer ? . ^ S-v .-ral delegates opposed the motion , as osm ? out •* : oHer . the Assembly having already decided the question . .... . _ ,. _ , „ ,, _ abwiuu

    Mr T . Joses geconded the mot urn «« -iy recesiary , in order ta give the conimiEW-ners proper instructions as to what trey had 10 do-Mr Erssst Joses objected , that the colkctina of the i -formation referred U by Vlr West would be attended with STeateifpnie , acd require , irnrced 1 - atelv . the whole of their time . The Assembly had not " the fands to do this ; and he ran * say , with , onfc " - 'iv imputation upon the pat-iotisni nf Mr West , tb * . ; those who ware so exee < -iiingly auxioU 3 for micu > instructions did nnt show any great zeal for the duties of the office . What the eonimisjioBen were expected to do , wag to obey the instt actions of the Exwstive , and to do their be-r . to promote the Chartist cause , according as circ » m ? tanc-ra might ari&fc . Th-. j Tould , in fact , be lieutenants of the Executive , chareed with carrying ont the icsiruetions which tbrv'iiiight receivefrcm time to time . t M' -ssrs IIzsrt and Mr Ceild O !> posetJ Mr West s

    motion . , ., Mr Do . yotas reallr did nnt tee way any doubt should rest upon this matter , and what difficaity thsrs woald bs in fixing the duties of the commis

    Several members protested agsis ? t the whole dicensjisn as beins irregular . . Vr VTest said , that to obviife iia objections to hisniotion , he wuuld add , that ' i ; 03 part' of the dc'i * ? mertioRed in his motion . Tha discussion upr-n the question was ceniinnei for = ome time farther , but no new point was eli-V- West repiifd . He did D"t exr-ec-i tbafc the

    c * inc 3 !* - -ionfrs were to be immediately paid , or put on cuty ; b > t he did say , that they ongbt to take steps , immc-diately on their return to their different di ? tries , to collect inch information as he had pointed oat . They ceuld do so in the TnaDU '' actnriii 2 distrisr ? , and " he could only say , that one of ; he most powe-fa ! associations ever known in this countryfe A . at :- ? O B-l STT Lesg ^ e—had materially aided its poDBiarity and power by the collection and diffasion of such information . Th <* motion was then put , and declared to be lost . and dis

    The duties of I ^ c ^ l trict officers were , sfter a di-: ca ? 5 i 3 n in which , many of the celfcg 3 te 3 tr > ok part asrsed to ba as follows : — ' T > keep an account of the nairns of Eemb = rs in their respective localities : to furnish a we ' sly re giefer cf the increase or decrease of members ; and to for ^ . Tds firancisl accoun trf t ' e waliiies to the Executive . ' The duties of d istrict officers were agreed r .-bo : — 'To keep sn active Rsiperinteadeacn o ^ er the loca'ities , and to furnish a weekly report to th Execotivo , stating the number of mrtnbfr ? in eaeh i' -ca'iiv . tha total in ea ? h district—likewise , tee state of * trade , the ? en = > ral feittv . s nf the people , a gd the raoTements of all public b »< iirs . ' All iocjI and district officsra to furnish z certification of their election to the Executive , to ^ tt-ier ¦ wi th their respective residence * , as food as passible ; that they n ^ e their bsit endeavours io csrry out the Insfrticti' ! RS of tbe latter brdr .

    1 Ths Victim Fund , Dcfenf-. Re ^ fccai-ion . an-Electir-n Committees , are coLfirme-d a ? at pre » crii COBEtituted . ' It was also resolved , ' That an offi-e in the metro poli ? be irame-Hite ' y t-iken ' Mr Sharfe a ^ ved , ' That th « J ?! "ti of . ^ rfanUition be fsdoat «> 4 as a wkole , prin ' t-d , asd oi ! 'ju ! u . ; ed tfar 8 ::, qh tha ceantry forthwith ' y , r Whssl ^ b secorded the resolution , which was carried by a large rnRJorisy . Standing Army .

    Me PwiKsis movet ! , ' lknt tn ' s AE-embly ii r $ jp ir . i-sn . th ^ i a stsndin ^ army is ' . nnirary tothb pr " nc : p ' . f 3 of trie Bri * ii " i Cr-nstitutioii . nod inimical to iht : ! ib ?? ty rf the subject ; we therefore recotnraenn to the canntry the neeps ^ itv ¦ tt ! a' - » e public rneprings in favr-ur of a gradual alio ' iti ^ D of thp army , by alio ^ ini the mea to retire unon civin tr tim .-ly notice ; also , in favour of the abnHiioo of fl- » ggicg ; an eqailisition of pay ; rai ^ ino officers froB thsranks ; and a batter provw ' -n f . r T-terans —the provhioa to be in proporii .-n to flseir serv ' ces , and to bs civan either in ino er or land . He faid , it w . m n . ^ t bis intention to waste ihe tiae of the Asssmb ' j' byanv remark * npnn the m > tion . because he belisved there was pot a delegate present who w not a ? well acqaa ' nted with the Rysf * m by ^ h ' c ' i the British pray was recruited and enslaved , us ie was kisudf .

    Mr Hbskt brifflr serond » d the motion . The pn-Tat = » B- > 'di ? r had all ths fiih ? in £ and ihs darieer . whi ' ifhe ffSccr fcai all the pnv w \ tb * honour ; and the position of a privatfl fo ! U -r in the British army vra ? one of the most mi'er ; ib ! o ar . d dej ^ aded thstccu'd ba conceived . Whatever tnicbt be h's talents or abilities , he cnold never ri-e in the army . Tn ? po * r . ir- ! sof power and emolument there were a !! reserved fo ? tee tsions of arigwracy . Besides this , hecot'tended thet thepenp'ecf tiis cmrtry ftboalf " ba armad . and be traiced to the de ' enre of their . ives and p ^ o « ertie =, ? nd thassapertede tbe resessity for a s ^ ndins anny ,

    Mr Ktdd supDorted the motion because he bslieved with Mr Rinkin , that it wi ? oppo-ed to th ° principles of the British enrsxtitution , and had ever been the great s-fen ^ th of ty rannr . Tte tenure by which the o ! d fendal bawns hs ! u their lands was . t' -at they should raise a c ? rts " n nnrabpr if arm- d men for the defence of the country ; hut they now he'd these lands , and threw upnn tha tesrs raised fr « -m 'hs peotje , the bnHon nf snpnortinj the arm ?—trMV , in additive to the lands they formerly po ^ sewt d . tiifre bad been Eole-s than 2 , 600 en-losure bills pa « s-d . by which six millions of ac-es of camnmn lands , which u ? ed to be the property of the people , had be ? n taken from thec , and the whole tendency of the government r , f th «> feudal atistncraey had been to or-prrss the middle and working classes , and it was time for them to Hnit - to eppax ? th « « v « teiT \

    Mr West « h did the miti-n hal been broas ' ot forsar , acd , aft ? r a few obssrTatvns upon the financial bcrd .-isaDd i . 'ijurous pi itioal tendon ies 0 : a large standing army , conc ' udei hy giving it his ocrdial enpoorfc . Me 3 srs Pilling . Child , H C-. r > hr , Sha ^ ( T . ) we ' Hamlets ) . Bis ^ et , Dinn . and otb- ^ r delegate ? , supported tbe motion , not because th ^ y wished to u-e any c ' aj-trap to secure tka sympathif ? -f the sol-Cier ? , but in order to show that the Chartists ^ fre desir 3 i 3 thit all their fellow suhj-rts shou'd enjoy the ri ^ htr of citizens ; and the hru'a ! if . y < if flosrgins , as wcil S 3 ths s > ysteni fey which the poor man was preceded from rising in the army was strongly condamned . Tho mftiioa w& ? carried nssnimou-ly , and aftsr s short discussion ,

    Oa tha mntion of Mr IIesbt , it wa . ? Tesolven , — Thit an address , explanatory of : L-j enslaved and degraded pos ' tinn of the Briti * h a . tmy rlmu ' d b& i-isued , as an antidote to ths inducements offeied by ( is rseruHius Bsrgeant . Deputation to Mr O'Connor . Mr Abuts , on behalf of the deputation to Mr . O'Connor , reported that they had b , en appointed to wait apon that gentleman to ask » he » he wou'd brine forward s . bill in the Hiu'e o Common ? , f nnded noon tb . B People ' s Charter . Mr O'Connor hsdstated tfiat M « - Huaehsdiivennot ! caoHi ! iinteDt'on ( in ths 2 l « t d May , to brins forward a motion for Univer ? al Suffrage , bis ? d upon & year's residence . Vote hy Ballot . Triennial Parlura ' onte , and Equal Electoral

    Districts . ( 3 ear , Jie 3 r . ) This being the < a' >» , Mr O'Connor was of opinion rh « t he ^ hno'd n t bring A > r waid any motion until that was deeded , but sft-r that he abould ba raady to brieg forward snrh a motion as would em body the whnie . of tke principl-s of the People's Cb&tter . It was neeewary for him to eiva fonrteen dsyi' notlie of bis iBt « r , tinn ti da bo , whichhe woald <* k * the ea-Hest ^ pcrtunity of doia ?; tnd ii wm also bis wish that 'he peon !? in tbe various taw&sthroog ' iontthe country nhou'd be prepared to geppDrthim by means of petition , wnii-h wou d materially strengthen him ii brinsin / far * rd thai notion ( lirarhear . ) Hoprop-s ^ tkr . th etown ?

    , , is ? cotliad , fcr instance , should take up a particular portiaa of tie pe ^' e ' g grievances , and also meet the abjeetions tbat had been msde to tbe Peopled Charter , ejpesial ' y th » t hhi ^ h was ba * ed upon the ? iot of education , tnd to'how tfaa ' . if the people were net properiy educated , it was because the lerge Church roTeHues which were left tor the purpose «' 1 duration , k * d been wre » fed from the people , aDd oyght to be reitored to them . ( Hear , be * r ) If each town thoxoos ^ ecatiTelj took np different pa ^ ts of the P MIilft'i grUTiae s . ind iotwxriei the > n to iheir o * d members , fchess petiti « n « would ferm s hwtory of tteir 6 n * T » uoM jwidttougli Bwnberawereprecladeil

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    f om reading tau petition , whwi preseniing ( hem , he could avail himself of his priti e =: e of moving that they bi read by the olerk at the tabie , and thus the question would ba forced upon the atteBtion of the house ia a m- ) st powerful manner . They had been talkiuemuchof a conciliatory policy , but this was wbat might be termed a . ptrplexing policy . ( Hear and laughter . ) This report was received with loud applause , and , oh ths motion of Mr Raskin , seconded by Mr M'Le * n , wag received . Several notices ef motion were then Eirea by various deleiBtes .

    Mr ilAECRXAYKi tnoyed , ' That tho ABsembry re * comneod to the country the total abstinence from all intoxicating drinks , as a means of crippling the gave r . went in its finauces . ' Tfa motion gave rise to an animated debate , in which M * swra SrEVfiKaoM , Maihbws , Cartkh , Shaw ( Towe- HimletB ) , and Adams , took part , the general opieinn being that while such a motioD , if adopted , would w > t ba generally acted upon , it would hare no effict waatever in crippling the government , becau- - e if it failed ta raise the revenue in ene way , it Lad ample m 9 anB in its power to do so by others . Tbe debate was not concluded when the hour for adjournment arrived , and it was accordingly adjourced until Thursday .

    THURSDAY , Mat 11 . The Assembly met at nine o ' clock , Mr Dixon in the chair . Standing Army . Mr M'Gbath rose to move to resoind bo muoh of the miKutes of yesterday ' s business as referred to the resolution pnssed abjat the standing army . He had not the advantage of being present at tho discussion of this resolution ; bat he was obliged to suppose that he Amenably had not adopted it without csnsideration . F .-r himself , he had the opportunity of knowing the opinion i-f the working classes , and he knew thai tbey were opposed entii-aly to the principle of a 8 < andicg army . Tha first use which they were

    inclined to make of the Charter , as the law of theland , srould ba to dbband th 9 standing army and to replace it by a National Guard ; but what ill the r ; 3 oiution adopted by the Assembly mean ? Why , ODe par : contradicted another . The firit portion declared for the abolition of the standing army . But having

    Dr M'D'jUALLbad heard no reasons why a portien oftherssolution should be rescinded , because in it the Assembly had passed certain recommendations » bmt the army as it waf . M .- M'Grath said , if he had the Charter he would * b .. Hsa she Biandin g array ; and be agreed that there uu $ ht to be no standing army la England itself . But when ibey Jooked to tha colonies and to the commerce of ths cauntry , he felt that they must have a etaading army of one kind or anoiher to protect these colonies andihatcotnmerce . TbefirBt portion of the resolution recommended tke ab 'lition of tbe stsadlDg arm ; in Bnglnnrf , and tbe second portion recommended certain madifioationsoftfee armjasitnow was . A'ter some further diecuesion the motion was pat to the rote and rejected ia favour of the reeoimion of yesterday , by a mojority of twenty egainst » even . Talotaiim- 'Adyjurntd Debate .

    HrAsBi satd . he had been a testotaller of thirteenyeare ' hough be held tbe principles , ke ft-lt that instead of beiug but there to discuss such a question , their business « -as to so forward as speedily as possible with the organisation of the country . MrVfEKon wassnxiouB that they should come te th * p ^ ar . ticd ! questions that affect the Charter ; although t =. y seg-ttived this motion , do one could suppose they approved ef teen abusing themselT ;* . Ultimately , the vote having befn taken , tho amendment , that nn such question bs entertained , was deolued Carrie' w'th twodltsentient ? . Dr M Di-rALt stated , the correspondenca was exceedins )? cheering . The orgaaisatioa of the country wbb prtce- ding Tt-ry rapidly ; that in the Newcastlo district th-y ezp'Ctfd t * enrol 60 , 009 members in two or three Keeks , and m Cirnnall the Chartists were very stropg , Tbe letters expressed a strong wish that they should go at ones with tke memorial . .. _

    Memorial lo the Queen . Mr Eb <* E 5 T Joseb moved , — ' That inuaediate sttps be taken in present the siemeria ! to the Qao-n in person , Tho tonnf r thpj knew who was the ruler ef this coudi t'v . wh th « r the psop ' e or the Sovsreljin , or msivly a 'aciion , the be ' - t < r . There w . is bo law compelling them to transmit it throng the Home Secretary . After ths treatment which the National Petition met with from thai < r- »» o"able minister , he would have nothi&g to do w'ti h ra Sir Qeorge Grey had betn guilty of treason to thf Dc"p ! p . to hU Sovereign , aud to the countty ; ia hrinRing in the O jgglng Bill , o » i treating their petition in 'be vr :. y he had done .

    Dr U'Dooitt . thscjht nothing could ba added to what ha- ! la'len from Mr Jones . Bat ho did assert in the ssm- of thr- women , of ths Assembly , Of th ? eMinlry ( end -f i-lf profe' » ion , that it tra « a cruelly to tha Q-ieen in hu : rvins hsr aw » y to OabornD , Tthich the pooreBt man « "u ! d not Suff r to bs exercised towards his wife . And 'hi * was done b- cause the Cbanist 3 would hurt a trosian ! Ha repudiated thi » , and seconded the mo'ion . TS" n-. o '' on was carried unanimously . Mr Aoaks moved , — ' Tnat theExtcuiive be instructed to wri'e immediately to the Lord Chamberlain , to inquire when Inr Majesty will receive' the deputation entrusted with ihe ra-m . r : al Us Cm ld 3 < eandedtkis . The motion was carried tmanlmonsly , UetttDoUtan Demonstration .

    Mr Leich moved , ' That a metropolitan open-iir m .-etic' ba held , for the purpoie of adapting tbe National U-morUl yr Vernok said , that one meeting wonld BOt glre the seas ? of the metropolis . They mast have at least fourm « ft-. Dffj—tas : , west , north , and south . lir Eemest Jukes was molt aatious that they should Iisvk one treat and magnificent demsuBtration of tne His-n of London , lu order tbac tbote who aiiemeledon K ^ nniniton Commen might ihow themselves again in at large , or sriil larger numbtr * , and prora their devotion to thu c » us ? , and answering the disparaging remarks of tha press . He was decidedly opposed to four sectional mesungs . It ongbt to be one gre 3 t and imposing assssnblsg- > , : nd he would suggest that they Ought to resolve upon ih = it , ^ ndl .-a ^ e te a committee tbe duty o ( nsaliiug then c * 5 S » ry arrangtments . M .- Leach said , that met hii views—and he would , therefore . fr » ovG > bis moiion vrith tbat addition .

    llr WnMi t * wished toknowlf apfOcesBifln Waato iOro ^ ipAny the pre ° i-ntation of ' ^ e memorial , because , if so , that isna'd be the demonstration . »! r WEsrsai-J , tbey had already paised a resolution to write to the Lord Chamberlain , reqaeating ts know ¦ then a imputation could bs received . Now ha did not understand that thtre w&b to be cny procession to accompany that deputation , and he fur one wocild not btrrm'lf a fool of SRain by voting for a proeession which after til would not take place . HrH'CiiE said , tbe view of tbe Business Committee wsstit following : —They understood that not mere than fuar ' personv coul- ! present a memorial , end , therefore , < 5 idn tpropDse that any larger number etonld prestnt it . Bat the memorial bad not been adopted by an ; ag > grrgate meeting in the metiopalis and thej considered that bifore the delegates wrnt back to the ceuntry tSey sh " iu'd h&V 5 an opportunity of judging for themselves thf ntnte nt putilic f lilinic in London .

    Mr PiLLiKO said , thty h « d beta told ia Lacctshirethat the Lrj .- on people vrere qaite up to tbe aiark , and he heiu « 6 ntv m London wished very ranch ( 0 judge frith his owh eves es to ths truth of that statement . Mr Caeteb was of opinion that tbey cupht to have one lar ; : e m < eting aad tbat ehortl y , for they would man ; of shem huvetortttirnhomeeoon . ( Hear , bear . ) There crrtetily was a feeling ia tbe country , that tke men of Lond < m wrre not animated by the enthusiasm anddetermiuaiixn wb ' eh it haJ bten represented by some ptrtleo they « ren ? . He « ishe 3 , therefore , to see tor himself , and If thej trere so emfeusiistlc , that ke might have the pl ^ i » nr « of taking back the views to theecuntry .

    Mr J . Sha * ( Tewer Ilamlet' ) was of opinion that the cl'y of Loailon bad never yet been fairly tiBted on the qj- »" -i < n . and hp , for one , was most desirous tbat tbey saouH heve a meetiug in the ceitre of the city . He would th < rpfora prapoae that they should ask the Lord H < tyorfor tho uso of the Guildhall —( ob , and laughter ) — it might sound ridiculous , but previous Lord Moj < irs had accedid to nqufgti for theme of tbat hall , though « h ^ y did not agree with the party who asked for it . If the Lord Mayo ? refuted , they could then with more propriety hold ameetlDg In SmithfieldMarket . Mr Sb » r * on moved , — ' That they should first declda how tke mrtnorul should bspressnted . * II ? WBEtiiKRecsaded this . MrMiESD ^ N said , the prop ' s oa ; ht to hare a public demonstration and a procession turough the streets of London , in ordi r to show the gentry that they were itttrtnlne-1 to ezla tbeir rights .

    Mr Vekkos said they should bring this question to an issue . H 1 w * i T * tc&tQS very carefully tbe decision of ihe Assim ' ily on this giiint . It was the pulley of the go-T'Hmfni to nr » r them oat witn delsy , bat this policy mar ba put an end to —( cheers—they ought to fix ad « y for fair ; ir > iii < the qieitlon at Issue , sad he said tfaat th' p nple of Earlanl should po in a body , and present their sinmnriaU themselvti . ( Hear , hear ) i £ r EisiST Jo » E » con ^ Wered the dtientsion ef tbls qaeition « a » quite prematare . They were not atpre . teat in a posljoa Co decide whether they should b » ve a procjsji-. n or not . Individually , he was resetted If he ever nirala : 00 k psrt la any procession , that it would be eae from wfcloi tie would n » t draw bsek . He Implored the Assembly to adopt no meuurn they would not b ? able to csrry through , but whtn adopted , they wotsld stand bj it . It badbeeB said tbat tbe men of London were mnlc la aputby : they might , tbereforu , hold the mM Dj , sod it wo-ald thea ba time to think ef a proce * . slo » . Mr Ktdd « aid tiaJ In tha p « sent state of piM ' o feeL ! se aaa the K > l 6 tlwi » of tUegoYsrnmsat W thepeepl * , rt .

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    aitmberi-s iho lU . n ot April , cno ivs . uuiiu . i ot iii « t A .. u-mbl / to hare another proctsslon , would be tauUmouut to a declaration of war . Thuir last procersisn was avowedly oue ofpeaoe . Tmy i « ued un express inttractUn that tha poople were t » come unarmed , onrt took every means in thfir pomr to impress the public with the fact that they intended to havu rooourgo to no other than peacenble and constitutional maan « , yet the prn » enfl the goverasnsBt took the matter up as on ^ which was intrndsd M be a phytical foroe revolt , and h&d tak » n precaati . a « against such a revolt of which th . j now boaittd as a proof tf . at tbe institutions of this couu

    trr were firmly rooted in tbe great miss of tbspeopU He therefore s&ld , th » t bifore again reeolvln ; upoo holdis ? ft procession , they should tee their way clearly , nmt satisfy themselves lhat they would bo really backed bj the people , and also that such a demonstration ha'l » rea « on « b ! o chance of effecting the object for which it whi intendod . For his own part , if efer tho people In the rnasa r < eolved to hold a pn > CDnslou he should net shrink from taking , as an individual , his place in it , and he bade the goversment and tbe upper clasieo to bew > re , for the people would not conseut to b

    Mr ll'InToiB oald , if tha peoplo of London were pre . pared , the people of the country were quite prepared to march or act in sny way that that Assembly might resolve upon ; as to Rhut had been said by Mr Kydd about tbe peaceable injunctions ef the late Convention , thty never would have had those , valiant men , the specials , come oat in such numbers , if tbey bad expected tbe people would be armed , bat as it was , tbey had gat a cheap reputation far courage , ( Hear , hear . ) Dr M Dooazx . deprecated tho discussion of this ques tiou , in ordrr taat the government might not have an ; reasoa for interfering with them , until thfy were pre pared ( or suck Interferes ^ . With mpOOt 10 the rial question before them , they must have public meetings , because tbey all knew tbat there bad been divisions both In and out of that Assembly , and they Heeded public meetings , to kuo « to what extent , or whether at all , that oiviiioB bad weakancd them , and what was the real strength at thsireumniand .

    Mr U'Ca&tet considered that having moeting * wonld not prevent them from having « procession also . Mr Adah 1 moved as an am ndment : — 'That lorg . public meetings of the peop le be convened ! b the Several great divisions of thometropoH ? , lo test them as te their willlnKness to have- a proeession on tho occasion of the presentation of the National Memorial , That these coatings be held on several successive nights , and tbat the members of tbls Assembly attend thiso meetings , and from tho attendant creamstanceB bo able to decidu as to the propriety of holding a procesBlon on tbat oc caiion , He would oppose the risk of another pr , ; ce 8 Bl > jn until he saw th-y were fit for it . I . would be a most foolish , dangerous , and rash proceeding for them to havaanotkerprOLeBsion , until they had ascertained the readiness of tbe people to carry out the object for whicL alone such a procession could be instituted . Tbe mo-. ion havlBK been seconded .

    Mr Cbild said , they wtro sent there to decide what w ^ i to be done , and not to ask tba people that question . The people looked to them aB lluir ohstod represent * - tire ? , to lay doirn wbat v > ire the best means to adipt far obtaining the People ' s Charter . It was of no u ? e for them t « usk the peopb of London each questions at pubiic meetings . The people of Lond . n wcro prepared to t 9 ka any means in their power for that purpose which ware not likely to be fatal to the cause , and to briii £ them Idm premature and unnecessary collision with tbe government . ( Htar , hear . )

    In the dlicnssion which followed this amendment Meisrs Hargreavet , Stevenson , Mitchell , Arkell , Ernes ! J > nei , Thomas Jones , Donov .-m , ani other deirgate * tojk part , and Mr Leach h-tiug replied , the origin *! motion fcr a large metropolitan demonstration , was ear > riei , and a committeo of st-ven dtlegates appointed 10 mako tha necessary arrjngtmcnt «—Messrs M'Grcth . Shaw , Vtruon , Bai * et , Wcealer . Child , and M'Carthy The Assembly then adjourned till fcalfpast two o ' clock ( From our Third Edition latt week . )

    FRIDAY MORNING , Mat 5 . The delegates met this morning at the usual hour . Reports of the rroteeHing ) . Mr Shaw ( Tower Hamlets ) complained © f a misstatement which had been made in the reports of tbe proceedings of the Assembly , which had appeared in the Morning Advertiser . He had been made to say that Mr O'Conn . rhad done a , great deal of injury t » ibe cause . Now be had never made use of any word !) of that sort , although he moat certainly thought so , and it was a very strange thing that the report should hare aaticipattd him in his opinion . Mr Shaw ( Barnsley ) . 'aid that he had received a letter from his constituents in Barnsley coniplaiiiinu of the reports which had appeared in tbe Northm ™ Star , and rtquwini tbst a copy of in might be S' n' to that paper for publication .

    Mr Ernest Jo . vks said , thac in order to slnw th < toed feelinjj in favour of the movement , he bad bser informed that the lit la localiiy of Alexandria , in Scotland , had sent a Post-office order for £ 4 towards i he expanses ; and he had handed in . £ 10 from Halifax . Adjourned Delate on raising a Fund . Mr Basbkti suggested thata newspaper should be established to be the property of the Chartist Asfetciation , and he thought that for thiB purpose the sum named would not be sufficient , Mr M'Gfath withdrew his proposition till such time as tbe Assembly should have decided uprin t \\ n line of policy to be adopted for obtaining the People ' s Charter .

    Mr Ehnk 5 T Jonss thouEut that the peop ' e of this country bad such perfect cnntid-Rce in the As ^ embh that there would be no difficulty in obtaining the sum named , if they proceeded with energy , and struck the iron while it was hot . ' An address bad been sgreed upon , inviting the people to assist the movement by their subicriptinns . Let them first pet tha money , and then they should be able to organi-e the movement . He bagged therefore to move that the question of finance should be the first

    question discussed in the Assemby , Tbe objects for which the money was required would bo of greater service in obtaining tbe money than the nitre orjja-I'icaiion of the pl « n of obtaining thoBe objects . He should therefore move , 'Tnat in pursuance of the order of the programme , we proceed to tho means if enabling the Assembly to give renewed vigour to the mnveme&t , anfi tbat a committee , in ceiijunetiwi with the finance committee , be empowered to propound a plan fcr raining the nece . ^ sary funds . ' Mr Cauvkb seconded the motion .

    Mr T . Claur thought tlut the motion of Mr Jones was as untimely as tbat proposed fora siuii'Hr purpose by Mr M'Gtath , and which bad been with drawn . He agreed with Mr Churchill in the opinion that tbe Assembly ou ^ ht to be prepared with some definite plan of action- He had propo-ed one aet of measures , at . d he certainly thought that those eentlemen who bad opposed thwe plans ought to bring forward some plans , and he ' looked forward with some considerable anxiety to the production of that mode of proceeding .

    Mr Ktdd was very anxious that they should csroe to a concision as scon as posr-ibleon one of the points in tae [ Tiigramme , viz , tbe policy to be adopted with respect to other liberal movements , which enme Bhort of the points contained in the Charier . He was prepared to submit a distinct resolution up n thesuhject . With respect to the Executive , he believed that tbe course cf policy pursued by that body was deserving of the ra st sincere thankB . T . nej had effected a consid . ruble amount of good . By whose exertions was it that they ha'l tken enabled to make a stand upon the hnstiDfS during the last

    election ? Was it not the Executive ? Was it not that body which called together the Convention , are * provided the rucanary fund * ? Lie did n <> t believe that there was a tingle individual who would entertain the slightest doubt of the integrity and bo ' iext ; of the members of the Executive . He should thertfore more the following re ? olution : — ' Toat we re commend thp people to agitate for no measure ahor * of the People ' s Charter , hat at the same time recommend the people to offer do obstruction to othtr a « 9 i > cialions , having for their object the txtension ol the franchise . '

    In answer ts a question put by Mr Harley , Mr E . Jo . vks said , that pursuant to the programme which the Assembly h * adopted , it waj nosv tlu duty of tbe Assembly to take into consideration tht means ot enabling the Assembly to givu renewed vigour to the movemsnt , and the motion which he h ; i < i brought forward was founded ui on that point in the proErnrome . Mr HarlbTi who stated tbat he did not wish to shine as 5 public Breaker , but to aot as a man of busines ? , supported the motion of Mr Jones . Some time mu * t neopi-sarily elapse before the appeal far fbe funds could be brought into praotical bea > 'int > It wauld be at least a wtek before they should be ab'e co go to the workshop to collect the money , and by tbat time the address containing the lies ot policy to be pursued would be issued . Mr Whbelkb suggested that the word ' finance ' should be omit trd from the resolution .

    Mr Erxkbt Jokes had nooiijtclion to mako thp alteration ; Mr Ktdd said , that as he did not wish to impede the progres * of the business , and should there f ore withdraw for the present his motion on the subject of » ther * S 80 ciati ns for obtaining en extension ot tbe franchise . In answer to a question put by Mr Adams , Mr Jo . vb * said , that be thought that the sum to he raised could be better decided in committee than b > the whole Assembly .

    Mr Adams ssid , that in his opinion the Assembly were fully as able to decide upon tbe requisite sum as any committee . Unless some large sum was raised , there could ba no confidence in the proceedinf a of the Asbi mbly . It wns nectary to convince the government of tba sincerity of the people by ap . p ' yinga test or this kind to tbetn . It was bi « opinion tbat it' the people were not prepared to sacrifice IJd each , they were not prepared to bare their bo ^ ms «< tfeeba \ onets of the soldiers ( Hear , hear . ) Great fault had bean found by some gentlemen with the conduct of tbe Executive ; ha did not b- Here tbat they were in the least A ^ gtti to blara ^ . the fact w&s that they had not ; had the means ot tsking th « steps which thej would hare wished , if , however , the

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    sum of J £ 5 OuO-should be placed . at their disposa they would be able to carry on their operatic wkh vigour . Every pound of the Chartist m ^ ney which was spent in the . imitation of the cause , would erst the governraent £ 50 at leant . ( Hear , hear . ) They had ooat tho government £ 20 , 000 for their late exhibition on Kennington Common , hut he did m > t -. elieve tbat it had cost the Chartist body £ 100 . If the sum of £ 6 , 000 were to be raised , they would soon be able to bnnz tbe government and the aristoer * cv o < -he couttry to their senses . ( Chsers . ) Mr M'Gbath said , that he bad withdrawn hi < motion on the subject , because he thought thai the ,, ig » eatioa of Uf Churchill was a reasonable one . viz ' the necessity of laying down some line of policy before the appeal wa 8 made to the country for the money . He had left the rnota upon some private iwsii ew , and upon his return was very much sur-• priwd to find tbe subject a ^ ain brought forward , and 'he AsBembl y now discussing the question . He did

    not agree in the opinion that it was advisable to Ieav « the committee to decide upon the amount which was necessary to be raised because upon bringing up the report , the whole qus-tioa would be again brought under discussion , tie proposed therefore to go into consideration , at onop , of the necesgsry sum to be r 4 sed , 3 nd should again submit his proposition- Tbey were fuily competent to go into the consideration ot the sum necessary to be raised . He [ should therefore move . ' Chut an earnest appeal be made to the penple of the United Kingdom , to commence the creation of a fund of £ 5 , 000 , to be called The Liberty Fund , ' which shall be at the disposal of the Assembly , for tie furtherance of the cause of the People ' s Charter . ' He regretted tbat any attack ahnnld have been made u on the Executive . It had been said that tbe Executive had done nothing ; the r « aflnnthey done little , was beeause the p'opledid not enable them to do any thine for the movement . Mr Churchill , I &aid no such thins ; .

    Mr M'Gbath certainly nnderatood him to say so . He . ilsft understood tho hon . delegate to say that the Executive ought to account for every ba'fpenny that tbey had received from the people . The Executive had ace unted fur every farthing of the money , tbey had received but little of it for the support of the cause , h was the National Lund Company which bad for a long time supported the Chartist movement The small amount of money wbfch had been rde . aved , bad been expended in the employment of the , moit tainted lecturers they had in the promujgation of the principles o ' the Charter . Waa not that a satisfactory account of the expenditure of the

    mnnev ? It had also been said tbat the Chartist body were tired of the Executive , and that their day of doom had approached . He would only say that if their day of doom had approached , it had come without dishonour to them , ( flear , hear . ) If it wag said that they had last the confidence of the people , he for one entertained a vague noli ) n that they hsd a little of it left , and he fully be'ieved that so long as honour , integrity , and devotion to tbe great and glorious movemflat , should ba reHpected , they wnuld continue t « m ; rit 6 O 5 ae of that respect and consideration which th ? working portion of the people , he was persuaded , still entertained for tbe Executive .

    Mr E . Josks pFu-o'ed to cont « lidate his motion with tbHofMr M'Gratb . Mr M Grath had ne objection to accede tn that proposition , and should therefore add to his motion , after tbe words' People's Charter , ' the words ' and ¦ hat a committee be appointed consisting of the Financial Committee , sind four other members of the Assembly who shall be empowered to propound a plan for raisin ? the sa-d fund . ' Mr CHURcniLii denied that he had made use of any terras affecting the character of the Executive . Some objections had been taken to him on the

    ground that he was a ' new Chartist ; ' he had been something else before he was a Chartist , nnd no < ft , ubt he should be something else after he had become a Chartist . Although be was anew Cbartiat , he might b ? qnitfias pleasant , thoushnet so heavy , perhaps , as some other of the delegates . The question now to bo decided was > , whether they should or should rot call upon the people to subscribe without filing them what the money was wanted for ? He should therefore move as an amendment : — 'That thio Assembly do t « ke up at ence the subject of the organisation and policy of the Chartist body . '

    Mr Curk seconded the amendment . He theught itabso ' mtly necessary tbat the people of England should be told what tbe money was required for , and what they meant ta do with it , before they n .-ked for it . There ought to be no mystification about tfeeir proceeding * , no vague , or indefinite Generalities ; but that a straightforward nnd comprehensive line of policy ongbt to be marked out to be pursued by the body . When such a course was mnrked out , it was bis firm belief that the peoule of this country would support it . He quite agreed with the opinion so m 11 expressed by Mr Adama , tbat tbe man who would nnt subscribe towards the funds , would not b « re his bos'irn tuhe military . ( Hear , bear ) The oropoaal to raise the sum named in the motion would he the best teat that could be applied to the sin-0 rity of the oeooJe . Mr M'Grain now sskfd for £ 5 000 , nnd Mr Churchill said , ! e . us wait and see what we are to do with the money first , and he most cordially coincided in the opinion of Mr Churchill .

    Mr Ba ? sbtt tbougrlit tbat the addreasjast i-aued kj the A ^ semb ' y wou'd give a sufficient idea of the policy to bo pursued , ha should therefore support the original motion . Mr Abdk . v supported the amendment of Mr Churchill . Mr Councillor Brook thought that it wns necegtnry to have the funds raised as soon as possible , and should ; ive his support to tho original motion , on the ground tbat the services oflecturerB were most imperatively required , and the money was wanted to pay f hose persons . Mr Ernest Jones eatd , tbat if ib was understood that tbe funds were tojbe applicable to tbe payment oflrcurers , he should persist in keeping bis motion distinct fr » m tbat ot Mr M'Gratb .

    Mr M'Gratii said , that it w * s his opinion tha > . the money sheuld be placed ia the hands of the Assembly , to enable Miem to give renewed vigour to the movement . When they had obtained the money , ihey cmld easily lay down the mode of policy for the em ( ilovrcentof > iH-h funds . Mr SniRRONnnd Mr Abb * supported the original ra ^ 'i'in Mr CocnRANB thought that the addros ? , containing ihe course of policy to be adopted , ahould be i-Mied at tho same time with the appeal tor the money . Mr Pkbardt thought it necessary to define the policy of ihe Aiiaembh preyioua to asking the people for the num < -y .

    Mr R . Filling oaid , that he had been connected with the m' « vemeBt f > r a number of ypaTS . He was eonnect ' d with ir , in the days ofPe ' terloo . He believed that K would be some time baf ' ore the Charter was made the law of the land . The Convention had met , and broken up , and the National Aajembly Ind now met , and unless they adopted some definite line cf policy , which the people of England saw , as well ft * themseives , v ; a 9 likely to prove successful , they would eay'TheConvention has been gammon , and the Aswmbly humbug . ' ( Hear . ) They would not collect the money unless they saw some

    plan laid down for obtaining the Charter . In the year 1842 . he was the sole cause of the ' turn out in Lanraehirp , the originator of the whe ! e proceedinu , andthnt < r « anisation did not cost him £ 1 . If , then , an individual , so humble as himself , C' > ul > l , with the outlay of a single pound , br ng about such a state of confusion in Lancashire , Cheshire , and Derbyshire , what raiuht n-t bu dero if the people of this country would but unite , > n I ra se a larpe mim to osrry on tbe contest ? ( ' o-r , hear , ) It wa < his firm opinion thaitbey would n ver obtain the Charter until they showed th . mee ves , by tbeir un on nnd enercy , prepand to take it .

    Mr Arkell moved sis an smenomo . t , ' That tbe £ 5 , 0 ( 10 ijiitnert in the resolution should form part of a fund of JtGO 000 to be raia d by ti . $ people . ' Mr Sikvensbn sconnderi the motion . Mr Council 01 Bmoos ( Shelfiod ) thought that it wag necessary to decide what sum should berated in order that they should at once set about raising it in tbe various districts . Mr ViiiiNov proposed to increase the sum of £ 6 000 ' o £ 10 000 Mr AI'Grath Had bo objection to tbe alteration . Tbe Cnairman was abiin to take tho votes upon th <> rea'tt-r , wh .-n Mr Lynch moved the omisBii jof the words Nv tioual Aeatmtl ) . ' and proposed 'That the funds should b « laced at tbe dis | O al of thelEsecative . '

    p Mr MGbath said , it wou'd be the duty of the Assembly to devise tbe means of employing the money , wnd laying down the mode in which itshould ba disoostd nf , and in such a view of the case , it would be , in the long run , at the disposal cf tho Assembly . The original motion was then carried by a large miij rity . Mr Vkjinon sujRPBted that , in the appointment of fhe members of the committee , reference should be bad to those delegates who represented large and populous districts of the aountry . Mr Ernest Jones m > ved , 'That Messrs Leach , Wheeler , Couhranc , Councillor Brings , Adams , M'Gratb , nnd I ' eunrdy , should be the members forming the jommiuee . '

    Mr Churchill then moved , ' That it ba an in sM-iictioa to ibe c mmittee that , instead of calling tor any sgesi&o sum , it would ba better to call upon ihe people to subsoribs at least ouo halfpenny per neck , to as to enable the Assembly to keep up a e mtinuous aeitation . He did not believe that either £ 10 000 or £ 20 000 would be sufficient to gain the Unau < r , and it was , therefore , moBt foolish to fix upon any precise aum fur that purpose . Considerable discussion took place upon the n , o tisn , when Mr Ernest JoJJks moved , 'That the Assembly shauld proceed to iho ooiibidoratiun of tbe next point in the programme . Toe mution having been seconded , waa carried by u liuve maj > rity .

    Mr . E& . t SST Jonbb moved & resolutio n to the effect 1 'f tat the country should bo divided into districts D&d localities , end tbat tho committee ia teyias

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    down these division !) , should keep in view the localities which at praaent oiist aa well aa those places in which 20 organised bodies have yet been formed . ' Mr T . Claiik considered that it would be much better , in entering upon the discuwicn of tho new organisation , that they should have a complete plan beroro them ; and , therefore , if there was no other organisation ts be proposed as a whole , it would be better to take up the present lawa of the Association .

    A Bhort discussion arose on the proposition , that fcae Assembly should resolve itself into committee in Order to disetias the question , wklch was ultimately agreed to ; an ! Mr E . Jonks having again moved his resolution , which was seconded by Mr Jones , ol Liverpool . Mr M'Grvtii said , that it would be ranch better as had bof-n su&geatecl by Mr Clark , that thgy should have a defined plan before them . He did not contend tbat the old organisation was perfect ; but , if they took it aa the basis of their discussion , tkey might , with certain amendments , mould it so as to suit the object in view . Mr Adam * seconded the motion . There was less fault to be found with the old organisation itself than with tbe people , for not supporting it . It was , however , not bo perfec ' , but that it might ba improved , and he therefore supported the resolution that they should take it as the basis of their

    dis-. Mr T . CunK then moved , That the name of the association be the National Charter Association , and that its objects be , the attainment of the People ' s Charter by peaceable and legal means . ' Mr Eunest Jones objected to the latter part of the resolution on a point of order . He would re niod the Assembly that it had resolved the question of [ eice or war should not be diseased . Mr T Clark separated the motion into two , and moved the first part , with reference to the namecnlr . which wag seconded by Mr Wheeler , upon which My E . Jones witbd » c » his motion , in ordor that iWr T . Clark ' s might first be di « cuBsed ,

    Mr Cuuuuio objected to tbe motion , on the ground that if it was adopted , it would be said they were going on the old plan . This would not give satisfaction to the oountry . They meant only to wait tor a limited time for the Charter , and did not like the idea ef the old lecturing association , but that they shou'd have such an organisation as would bear down on the government at once , and urge on the movement vigorously . Mr Rankin considered it would bave been muck better to bave taken up tho motion of Mr E Jones , because every locality was best fitted to manage its own affiira . He would therefore move that each locality form a Chartist Association , which shall have the entirn m&Dnzemwt of its own affaire ,

    Mr Hahley seconded the ameadsisnt , and supported this view of the question . In Scotland he : new the general opinion was in favour of that course . If they woro to adopt Mr T . Clark ' s revolution , it would give r " se to the opinion , that they were coins ; to create another organisation fur a protracted agitation , and to bave lecturers going through the country again . Thin he objected to , it would be Imter simply to form an Emergency Committee , to leave the localities to manssetbeir own affairs , and not to make a piece of machinery which had kept down the movement . The feeling in the ceuntry wns , tbat tbey would not keep up a system of hirelingism ; they were not inclined to go on agitating for a life-time , and ho believed they would bring the matter to a more speedy determination , by leaving the money in their own hands .

    Mr Child wisbed to know whether Mr Harley and the Scotch delegates wished for a repeaft between Scotland and England f Mr Adams replied , that when Mr Child moved for tbat repeal be would answer tbe question-Mr Child rejoined , that when they wanted to redress tbe wrongs of their common country they ought to make common cause , and the man who did not do so was a common enemy , that was his opinion , and he boldly stated it . Mr T . Jonks agreed with Mr Child , there had been no association for some time , but . ibad aa it was , it would be muoh worse if they adapted Mr llarley ' s view of the question . Mere local associations would lead to a complete disorganisation . They must recollect that they had . to contend with a government whoss powers were centralised , therefore , if the ; ment to meet it effectually they must do ta by

    centralising also , and tk-y would become the laughing stock of the country it' they did net . A national association through the land was necessary in order that whenever the name of Chartism was heard it should be respected ; bat if they said that Liverpool Nottingham , Birmingham , asd Glasgow were each to become local asiocia'ionB the m > vement would speedily be destroyed altogether . Mr LIarorbaves said , his constituents told him wben he came there they were not deaireus of again commencing a protracted agitation , and did not mean to wait for the Charter for years but months , and it it waa not granted in that time some of them were prepared to make any sacrifice to gain it . At the sometime he was in favour of a Grand National Association . Local Associations were very good in their place , but then there must be a directing bead to guide that local power into the proper cbai . ne . ' a .

    Mr Mathbws said that the government was a centralised government . If it had net been se it would have been overturned long ago . He wanted , therefore , that they should have a centralised association alao . Mr M'Lane could not understand why hia Scotch friends made a proposition fur local unions . He bad some knowledge of that ceuntry and ho wasdeeid < d y in favour of a National Association . Hrf hnen tbat to divide their numbers was net the way to increase tbeir strength . Tbe question bad been

    discussed in ihe locality he represented , and from the decision upon that occasion he was convinced that a National Association would be more in aecordance with the feelings of the people of Scotland gem-rally . Mr Cummino said he did not mean to sub divide or disorganise the country , on the contrary , he meant that their organisation should be united as a federal body . All these local unions should be so many tributary streams . Such an association , with a sum paid at once , according to the address they had agreed to , would be much more powerful than the old p ! ai—supported by half-pence and pence .

    Mr Vbrnor rose for the puipose of requeating his Scotch friends to withdraw their amendment . They ought to be as unanimous as possible , and it must be evident to tbem that to divide the movement into these localised bwdiea must weaken them . ( Cheers . ] Mr Adam 8 hoped Mr Child ' s assertion would not bo believed , when he said tbat he who waa cot in favour of a National Association was a common enemy . Could not men be friends to their country who differed from Mr Child ? Un the contrary , ho said that tbe men who could not suppose thp others might onsoicntiously , differ from them in opinion wai a common enemy . He could show that tne National Association had never yet been taken np either by

    the people of Scotland or England ; but the real objection to tbe National Association was , tbat it took away the control of the fuadB from the parties who contributed them , and if they couid shew hip bow a National Association could bo maintained is conjunction with a full control over the funds , he would give it his support . With respect to the name he would leave out the word National , and simply call it tho C a artist Association of Great Britain and Ireland . Tbe time was ame when they should forget all nationalities and look un each other a * citizens of the world , and forget at the same time all the Fen « elea 9 feuds and divisions which these nationalities had led to . The Assembly then adjourned at one o ' clock .

    AFTERNOON SITTING . Mr Rankis withdrew hia amendment , and Mr AdaU 8 moved that rational distinctions were inimical to the principles of u&iver&tl brotherhood , and that the Association to bo formed should be denominated the Democratic Confederation of Great Britain and Ireland for obtaining the imeaediate enactment of the Pe < pie ' s Charter , and that it be so constructed as to give the utmost control over the funds to tho representatives of the localities , consistent vrith the general centralisation of manage m ^ nt . Mr Sbirron seconded the amendment .

    Mr Ktdb was altogether opposed te ths changing of tbe name . It was ono which had grown hallowed by the very persecution tbey hsd endured ; and it they were to change ic to morrow , they would t ^ tiil bo known by the name of Chartists . He thought with the Scotch judge , when a man namf d Thompson , alias Brown , alias Smith , was brought be'ote him for trial , that' the whole family oi tks aliatce was a bad one . ' He should like tohear some stronger reason for the change than any that had jet been ad duoedi Their principles would ba the same , aud tieir name should continue what it was > . He bad no ¦ bjuctiea to their making what improvement they could in the orgarhation , but he deoidedly objected to a change of name .

    Mr IIbnbt said , though he was ia favour of the amendment , be did not intend to change the name of Chartist , which was cear to tbem . TLo * hud fought uodor it for jeaw , and gloried in it , All that they intended to ohanue wa < the term ' National , in order that every man favourable to the Oaar er . tuight fight under one banner ; by callingit the Democratic Confederation' they wouid gireev * ry mnn who held the Bame principles an opportunity of aiding the m-tvemeat . They were Bent there to take soma decided and vigorona measures . He had left men at home whose hearths were cold—who- e pouches were bare ; and they stiould , therefore , take suob steps aa wou ; d give peace and plenty to their homta , and mako their cottages what thay should be .

    Mr DuNoviN expressed his astonishment at Bnch dicoussions beiog raised , especially when ha found that there waa no objection to tbe original nsme . L bey were there as Chartists , and Chartists let them remain . Mr Cpchbanb supported tho amendment . They pr oposed no chmge of principle , but mewly to farm a new Datnocratio Confederation , because the other one had not been productive of the union thai hod aatieipatBd .

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    Air VV eh said , that if t jeir Scotch friends thought it right to change their mme , he could aware tbem that tha English Chartists would not change their name . It waa under that banner they had fought , and under it they wouid continue to light . They had done much harm by cbnnging names Already . Under Hunt and Cobbeit they were Itodjoato , and when ia order to show that they had a decided policy , they embodied their views io tke document called the Charter , O'Connell niok-naraed them Chartists . They did not make iithamHelves , but they took it when applied to them , and it waa now becoming res .

    pected after struggling through o&loqnv , and tha popular designation of a great party . Oas _ ctkrleue thing was , that as fast as they changed their name other parties sought to isgratiate themselves with the people by assuming them . When tbey were Ra « dicalsthe Whigs were Liberals ; when they became Chartists the Whigs styled themselves Radicals : thus showily , wben they threw off their old garments the Whips teak them np . For his own part be meant to fight under the old name , and he considered it wsbderogatory to the dignity of thatAssembly to entertain s ' uoh a question .

    Mr Cbild said , he was not aware tbat tbe Chartists had ever disgraced themselves , and therefore hg did not see any reason for changing tho name . If they looked into history they would find that many of ( he most honoured names now , were originally nicknames . John Wesley wss ( ailed a Methodist , by the young students of Oxford , as a nickname . Those who thought with him had takes it up , and retained it , aa a designation of honour . ( Cheers . ) As tbe name of the Charter had not disgraced them they would show that they would not disgrace it .

    Mr Ernest Jo . vks said , they bad issued an address ¦ Gadcd ' the Charter and no Surrender , ' and adopted as their motto , ' Measures not men . ' That was / progressive , but now they were going to retrograde and fight not for measures but for mere names . He wished to take no steps whi . h wonld not help the Movement , but at the same time he thought if they adopted the motion thai . tbougb their Scotch friends might not mean it , ihey would in future be called Confederates instead of Chartists . It would be said

    that just at the moment of launching their ship they had changed the rudder , altered tbe sails and changed about . There were some fifty men in the Hsuse of Commons who said that they went for the principles of tbe Ptople ' s Charter but who said they were net Chartists . He would retain the old name because he for one expected to aeo the Charter made the law of the land within a jear . The way to do that wns to make a good or ^ tnuatinn , to present their memorial to the Queen , aud Iheatotake « uch other steps as circumstance might suggest .

    Dr M'Dsuaix could not consent to give np the name of Cuartist because it would appear like shrinking from tba agitation . He had eor . e through all the former agitations and endured persecution and imprisonment under the name , and he hoped their Scotch friends wwld leave the wurd there , because it had always been the word in&cribo : l on their banner and he tor one wguM rather die than giro it no . Mr CHURcniLL said , he would like to know the ( Jiffrence between the two names , and ifthero was no difference what was the use ef changing it ? They had been bf fore the country tor ten years under that uame and were well-known by that title . Let them ,

    therefore , keep to the Bame of Chartist unless they intended to change the whole policy and prinoiple . Let them keep to it , and glory in tbe name of the Charter , as the men had « loried in Miffmng for it . Mr Adam 3 said , he did noc propose to change tbeir whole policy , but to change n portion ot the policyand an that was the case , he did not t = ee why tbey should not change the name also . Dc M'Dnuall had said he had suffered for tbe Charter , but it was not the name of the Charter , bit the principles of the Charter , for which he ba < l suffered . By his resolution , however , they would keep by both tbe name and the principles , but , in order to obviate objections , be would ccmsont to make a slight alteration in bis resolution .

    Mr T . Clahjc said , that if they were all unanimous , be would give it his determined opposition . Ha waB not aware that the name had stepped aBy one from joiniBg them , and no one good reason could be shown for altering it . If they had disgraced themselves , he might be inclined to change it , but ai their course had been an honourable course , a dig nified course , he hoped some one reason , of a definite character , wnuldbe ? iven for the proposed alteration . As to tbe proposal for un-versal brotherhood , he did not see that the name of the Charter Association was in the slightest degree opposed to universal brotherhood .

    Mr MGhath said , that if they had been an onbaptiscd party , he would not h > . ve " had the slightest objection to the Dame , but as ( hey tml a name , as they had fought and triumphed under that name , he entirely objected t « any alteration . Mr T . Clark proposed that it should be callnd the National Charter Association Mr Adams new proposed that it should be called the Chartist Confederation . He wished to have some simple single reason in supp ort ot that change , as yet he had heard nothing to justify it . Mr Adams said , he would give one strong reason and tbat was , that as long as ih » y called themselves the Chartist Association , ic wouid be called O'Con * nor ' s Aawciation . ( Great sensation . )

    iur Harlky said , that was an honest statement . They had heard much of thedignified ceurae of the Associatisn . It must te a very digmnVd Association ] surely , that had only 5 , 000 members en its bcoki ( Cries of ' False , ' ' No , no . ' and onnfuaion , amidst which several members rose to cos . tradic . t thefctatement I They hadt'iedin SootUnd , invaia . toget up a national movement , but bad tailed , from the be * lief that it was under tbe control ot a certain individual , who had done all the damage he could to the movement . Mr H * roreaye 3 protested against these covert attacks . Mr Hahlkt said , ho meant Mr O'Connor in these statements . Mr O'Connor had proraissed that he would be there to meet tbem , and ne only hoped th 4 t ho would coruo hero to hear said to bis face what some ef the members of the Assembly had to say to bira . ( ' Shame . ' ' order , ' and confus ^ n . )

    Mr Er > kst Jones said , Mr O ' Connor ' s character was not the question before the Assembly . Tae Chairman stated , that if Mr O'Connor waa theie , he coulit not spoak until he presumed hia ore * dentuls to the Assembly . Mr IIarlet leplied , that Mr M Gr » th had premisted tie would be there , and he had as good a right to attack Mr O'C > nnor as Lord John Russell or Sir George Grey , with respect to hia public character . Mr M'Grath protested atjahiit the calumnious attacks on Mr O'Connor ia his ataenoa as altogether u / iju-iifiable . Mr Hablky repeated his attack upon Mr O'Connor . and uuho tbe ossccisti n . ' for his own part , ha b 1 eved that same of the ma < i who had been in tht

    old association , hod disgraced thems ^ lvt « , and therefore he wanted tbe came chanitrd , to show they were going on a different tack . lie meant the whole liHe of policy to Do changed ; instead of Itcturing and public meetings , and keeping men going about 11 mako speeches ) , he wished them t <> change the name a little , in order to show that alteration ia poiioy , but , at the same time , he did not wish any alteration in the principle of the movement . Mr Rane . in expressed a similar opinion ; the Scotch people had no desire to change the name , but , it had beeu said by many people , that tbey had not joined tba movement beoaune Mr O'Cannor waa its leader , and a barrier to the power of the democratic pirty ihrougheut the country . He was Mere to speak his mind about Mr O'Connor si frtely as any other man , and if h « oame into that Assembly , if no other metuber preferred a charge against him , he was ready ie do it .

    Mr Ktdd said , he was astonished to hear people ta'k abi > ut the Cbanor , as if it waa to become part of the British constitution nnt week , ami at the Bame time BnetT at tho number of aembtrs in the Charti t Assuciation , there mi ^ ht be few men enrolled in Scotlaad , but he knew that oountry from Aberdeen to the Tweed , and he knewEngland from the Tweed to London , and it was not so much the number of narr . ea in bm . kn thnfc ho relied on as the organisation c sympathy , which bound together ths masses who were in favour of the Charter . ( Cbeers . ) Mr Wist said , he was the representative of ono hundred thousand men—of men , not women and children . He and they were proud of the Dame of Chartist , and they would never Rive it up . He was glad , at last , that under the pres-ura that had been

    applied to them , i-he Scotch delegates hud let the secret out of the bag , and showed that tbe reasoa they wished for another Association nao , because they did BOD want to have Mr O Connor any Wer as a leader . But he would tell them that the peo Pl « ot this c . ttntry were not ungrateful . They could not , and wouid not , forget the many servioea he had rendered them , and the sacrifice * be had made and although ho might now differ from eome of them , even if ho was , sorry they could not forget kis many services . He oould afford to say that better •? I ? M n . ? in tha » assembly , for he had differed with Mr O Connor mnre than any man there , and especially apon the Free-trade question . But , becauaahedidso , waf » he therefore to blind himself W UN Gtmnent . def t On to the c&u

    Mr M Grath said , the reaFon now adduced war , that thepeojlo woud not join what waB oalled tho O Connor A >^ oeiatiou . Why , he never knew that the old Asaoout on was O'Connor ' s A ? b tciation . It wonld not be difficult lu show that the different b . tween Association and Confederation waB merely tbe difference between Tweedledum nnd Tweedledee . It they meant to mako a decUrauon lhat they would no longer have Mr O'Connor for a leader , let thea fftirly teat the question , aud propose a resolution to th&Uffdtt . But he agreed with Mr Wait , that tho working nieu of Scotland , and of England were not unjr&'eful ; and he believed that if Mr O'Connor was to hold a meeting in tho Tewa Hall of Glasgow the ; would give such a proof that nty services wers mill appreciated bv them , -to wonld oonviitoa evca those who decried him in that Assenblj that Mm * were mistaken in tbeis pn » eae counts * ( CijsWj

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    THE NORTHERN STAR . _ " immB 4 _ L ^_ . May 1 ^ 184 ^

• Citation
  • Northern Star (1837-1852), May 13, 1848, page 4, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1470/page/4/