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      In fivonr ofThebiU .. ' . ~ ' * ,. * * " * ' " """*" . ' .. C " Agata&tit ... ... . ... ... 77 ¦ HajwUy against ... ... 7 S QCIKEES' AXD JEW > * M lilt 40 El . — Mr CHB 18 TIS taoredfor leave to bring in a bill to remove doubt a toQutktn' and Jew * ' marriagei tolemnisei bef > reth 2 nit . d >; of March , 1837 . He said that in cons ^ s'nc o < What had otcurrri on the recent inrert ' gation o' * question « f Presbyterian marriages in Irelaftd , don' t « tari hetn expreoedby tome of th « JaflRei in tMs eo » o ««> u to the complete vill < lity of the mirria | ts « «**• " * Vr < l « ak « TscdeVTatedb * ftfretbemarriaKe wtof W » . in-MB which he now proposed to introduce rot w went to the extent of removing these doubt * . ; t SirO . Gmxr had been as . ored by blgfc ^ anthnnt , that no roeh doubt , at those referred to . « a really Hit but aiViey appeared to have been tkro « r . ont by th , bend , ia certain cases , he should cflfcr noobjection lo thintroduction of the bill . Leave was thai riven to bring in the bill . ¦* ' ' » ' - ' - *|« - ' " ¦ ' --X **** ¦•• - - - " "'» ¦¦ .

      On the motion of Mr Btna , 'various aceonnts of the & . < U and nett amount of the customs at th < - Presidency of B i > gal for the last year were ordered to be laid on the table . Pxiyite But ^ OP Costs . —Mr HoMt moved for jpare to bnoginabaltoamenianact to establish the t » x ation or private bills of costs . He said that the bill wh cU be wished tojntroiuce would gUeto the Speaker of the Howe of Commons , the tame pow . r with rarer " to the . WU of CO'U of this hoasu which the L rd Chun . e ? llor had over bills of casts of the Courts of Chancer > The Speaker would have power to appoint an officer to : ac all bill * of costs whenever the parties who had to p » y them desired to submit them to taxation . A difference of opinion existed in the committee on the

      print whether all bills should be submi'ted to taxation , -or only such bull u the parties desired to "have taxed . The committee , however , had agreed that in all canes where corporate bodies brought in billa . the costs mat be taxed before they were paid . Since the Reform Bill was passed £ 82 . 000 bad been paid by the enrp 'ration of liverp ol for various local acts which it . had carried throueh parliament . Since the year 1836 the trustees of the Clyde Navigation had paid £ 56 000 for law expenses consequent on their different applications fur bills in that bouse—ft turn much larger than that ichich thej bad paid during the same time f < -r improving the navigation of the river . It m therefore quite evident , that if the house wished to protect the pnblic from spoliation

      and robbery , some strict regulation of this character was abeulutely necessary . £ 1 , 985 had been p-5 d ly the corporation of NencaiUe for the Newcastle Coal Act . which only consisted of two ctomes , and did notoccup the committee more than a single hour , . The Bnrj Impiovement Bill of last session , which " was a iiK-re aoitmry bill , had cost £ 3 , 692 . He was sorry to say that all these expanses had been submitted to by reformed ) corporations , which ought never to nave sanctioned them for a siBgle minute If any otlur reason was wanted to justify tbe introduction of this bill , be had one which most be beehive ,. and that was , that tbe preiminary law expenses of thf . London and York Railway amonntt-d to no less a sum than £ 133 , 600 . Leave was then given to hring in the bill .

      Cost of the New Hocebs or Paxlukeht . . — HrHoxE mc . rrd for a variety of retains relative to the cost ot erecting tbe new Houses of Parliament . . . , Mr H . Biilub was ve'y glad that these returns had beeni moved for . Tbo original estimate of erecting the new Houses of P « rli » mnr was £ 800 , 000 ; the expense already weaned was £ 1 , 000 , 000 ; and he understood that it would be nearly £ 2 , 000 , 030 before they were com . pleted . - Mr Hcjib observed , that if when these returns wrre made , they were not snch as to enable the House to ascertain , precisely the whole amount of expense to be incurred in these new buildings , he should mttve for a Par * ttamentarj investigation iu < o the ubject , . The Eichequer Bills £ ( 18 . 310 , 700 ) Bill went through committee , and was ordered to be reported to-morrow , ( Wednesday . ) The report on the Prisons ( Ireland ) BUI was brought up and received .

      Fevs * ( Iselasd ) Bnx . —On the third reading of this billb-iug moved , , .. Mr P . Fxesch rose , not to object to the bill , but to surest to Government the propriety < . f establishing eom-Gompetent . medical superintendenRe over the various medical establishment * in Ireland . He also made some obserr * aons on the fever now unfortunately raging in Ireland , It was of two kinds . - The first was a low typhus fever , under which the parties generally sank in two or three days . . The oth r was a virulent fever raging in the workhouses . He knew ef in > tmces iu which wLolo families had perished by it after a patient bad been removed to his dim cabin from the workhouse in which it prevailed .

      Mr LiBoccBEBE was aware of the great importance of th ? ftugestionjust off . red : o him by Mr French .. But the present was a temporary bill , intended to check the progress of that fever which was unfortunately so rife in Ireland at the present-moment . With such a bill it was not expedient to mix up the suggestion of hishonourable fr end ; bat it was a subject to-which tbe best attention of th « Government mnubsgiven hereafter . The bill wai then resd a third time , and after some clauses had been added to it by « ay of riders , was passed . Mr Fox Maule then gave notice that as it was ezpe * dient that the House should prononnca upon the principle of limited enlistment , without that principle being burdened with the other provisions if the Army Srrritv Bill , which referred to the Chelsea pensioners , he would on Thursday , after th- third reading of the bill , mov . that clauses 3 , 4 , S and 6 be struck out , inUndtng to bring in another and separate hill , for rendering effective the ttrrice of Chelsea pensioners .

      Tbe other business was thin disposed of , and the House adjourned at an early hour . WEDKESDAY . Ann U . HODSB OF COHKOK 5 Tbe S ? eiui took the chair at twelve o ' clock . Bourn C * THoitc Ebusf . —On the order ofthedaj for zoing into committee on the Roman Catholic Belief Bill , Sir R . Ikquj rose to oppose the motion . Considering the small majority by which the second reading < t tin * bill bad been carried , the large majority by which a aimi lar bill had been defeated during tbe last session of Par liuaent , and the intrinsic importance of the subject , th * House , he conceived , would not deem him uareasonaalt in ttfcog such a course . The hon . gentleman who had introduced the bill had gives notice of certain ait . rations .

      which he was willing to have engrafted upon it , but these alterations affected only its latter clauses , leaving the main and more important portion of tbe bill wholly untouched . In his ( Sir B . Inglis's ) view , therefore , th < bill . evtn if amended as proposed , would be as objectionable as it was in its original state . It was a bill which tended to the destruction of the Protestant constitution , church , and character of this country , and which would , in im operation , go the length of subverting that gnat constitutional provision which limited the throne to s Protestant succession . It was oneof the many measures which had been brought forward within the last fifty yeais for the purpose , if not of extinguishing , at least oi degrading the established religion of the country and the Protestantism of the empire . It was his good fortune to

      be acquainted with many very respectable Boman Catho lies , both within and without the house , but that would not prevent him from speaking bis mind with reference to the Caorch of Some . The hoa . gentltman then pro Creded to detail to the bouse wbat his mind was , when it appeared that it was faUv impressed with the conviction i * at that Church was now quite as bad as she used to bs ; that sbe was ioveterately and unchangeably opposed to the Protestantism of England ; that she was bent on subverting it , and setting herself up in its stead ; that she was as ready as ever to fulminate her bulls over the Continent ; that she has as great an itch forexcomxnunicatins individuals aud interdicting communities as -ef yore ; that if she did not now absolve subjects from their allegiance , it was not for want of the wish to do io ,

      _ Vat because now-a-dajs such a course was not quite convenient ; that if she did not now burn heretics , it was . because she dared not , but that she would do so to-morrow if she could , and ratber like it ; that , in short , she . was at'll as great a monster as sbe waa in the sixteenth century although policy and expediency might have in . ,. iuc diier iu some instances to wiar a mask . He then . culled upon Lord John Russell to remember the djing , words of his illustrious ancestor , whose opposition to popery was one of the most conspicuous features of his , ^ career ; and concluded by moving , as an amendment , . , that the house go into committee on tbe bill that day sis , ¦ mouths . Mr Law seconded the amendment . , The Earl ef AxoiDtr . and Sdxsit opposed the

      amend-.. mrnt , vindicating tbe Church of Borne from the attacks , ofSirE . H . Inglis . In tuo course of hti speech , his lordship made the following observations , which constit . tuiedthe almost entire subject ofthe subsequent debate , ( and were much harped upon by the " Protestant" members . Bis kon . friend who had just sat down ( Sir B . . H . InglU ) had said that the church of Borne was antago ; . nUticto Protestantism . He perfectly agreed with his , honr friend ; so it was ; and so it would be as long as . the world should last , or till Protottantwm itself should „ , be extinguished , ( lnulcal cheers from the Opposition . ) j , . HecouidUlustratebJsvUwsby an incident which had u happened t » himself . He was once on th « pUtasof Mat , nihon , directing his attention to the rains of a Grecian r tempi *! , when an eastern ttraqger stood by his side , lost ? in reflection whilst contemplating that noble temple . In j the neighbourhood from which the Fenian force had " *»* n expelled be had seen th » descendant of the eon .

      i .. ; quBredgasiiigttpoQtboniins of » migfarr empire which j . remained ia poetry alone ; W be asked himself ' , wbe Jier the Catholic or the Protestant faith sbouldstand ' , ' at ; Ue last hour ; and that reflection led his feeble and :, tininstraeteainiJid to the same result as history and ar-* gnment bad broug ht that of tbe right hon . member t , for Eainburgh ( Mr Macaolaj ) , when , looking ; through { ctbel . mg rista . of ages , bs fancied some stranger from :. , Xe « Zealand seated on a broken arch of London-bridge ' : „ and conteujpl » tuig the ruins of St Paul ' s , whilst the suec castor of 8 t Peter was wielding with undiminished f > rce <^ fh e power which , had been io long before conferred upon < . the Princeof Aposdes by the Son uf J hovah and of th « ,, ;^ ebrew womin . With tbeiesentiments , he should cer' # # mi oppose theameidmeut of his hon . friend * He was 11 « STZ ! S U > ' relm * * h one «»» to tt » struggle for re' ^ S ** ^ ' wUch lw "" inUined would -continue , % Sea " ™ ear taU 9 ' JJJJJgestantism became eatipc "

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      MrPtrJtp « E tald the noble JorJ had told the honse pl . th . 1 y , « nd hedidnotblame biro tor peahirig whatKe ft-lfto bo'tt' ^ ni ' nesi truth , thrtt a cAhioVr' wnsgoinj m bj P ^ UTT fte «'« t-Prdte « tati « te' and that it would iT'on ap fHPro" « tantismlUcli'hrcnni 0 PxtlnPt , (!( - . »' . ) That *«» thfvohh ! or < iV assertion . k * far na lie was concerned , that was his intention , nrid as'far ae he hub a >>| . r « f ntatire o * the church of Rome "that wag tl e ft'emina of thnt diun-h ( l .-sr , htarji ' and this bil was only part and parcel of -ha ! contist The noble lord had spoken out very plainly , -inn he ( Mr Plumpu- ) tbsnke-i hira for it . WhH ! iho Prot nWts lam , nu . i whs tha' they k ,, tw not «))<¦»> ¦ t <> flid tin ir eii .-mte « ; thev mi-ht . hehoi . 1 to-daywijen it suitsdtheir porposei " « . " ' - ¦_ " - _ -. _ . ^ 14 il * n nnhla 1 ^_ . 1 L . J 1 . 1 J * . t- _ «

      , i"neoinnrroW , - whvl , iiniiuht not he sn convenient to tlitm--. when thy ruis-lit be wot by a miperior ' ¦ ' . er 1 b .. > miE ! , t h « ld their i ^ eaco ; but the noble lord , Stan honest m-iii :, nd an opcn ontayoiViit . h-. dtold than ol « inly nhu ws . the pnrpo-c of his church ; his (» n-KU * ce w « s pVifn , ni intelligible snrt the Pro ' t . staut « « f thi . cmntrr wore pxparerl t . > meet it lij fntir ^ lyopp <* ite taritosjre . The church of Ron . o i ™ rr ! iV . he carrying on ' * iatcijte * r . am ! might Ve'dispiMpd uh « -n the thoiiplit «« conv . uient ami d > uti . l that Mi ^ lm ^ the powtr fv ' do « o to he roine a p . rerouting * vlmvch . Sli * miRht he ilispowd < o give this country and o < h rr-, m projiottion as « hp r . ) fiiir . e'lpi . « . r , trwiWc , » n ^ such us misrhtleii ri to

      sre »> m ; sery : liU ' T . h » n tbp noMt- ' or . 1 » p , ke of ilie ! result of tb ^ C'intrsf of PwUttHnti > ii hrcriminir -xtinct "*"' ' ¦*¦ « 'e foot of Ute i ; han > h nf Home , htt ( Mr Plninn tri- ) was notnfraid of such a rt-sulc . ' n « wan « ati « nt'd that Protes . tan : km •• as fonnilfi ? on a rck . Hb only hranls from atir ) iirproeaTerl rtc Mrnwla' which thr dinrub of Rome w , ' . « pr < -rnotiTir , anil ' . thitih htimitirahle memb'T " . m > t of th . it ciiurch . Were in their " roettsufrs nromfitinebyadrooat-rg « i : el : a HU as that now-btfure the house : h ? t- ok nc part its such a rceasure—it wan ont . vp . ir <« liir t | , fontest which was to be Carried on aeair . tt . Pr < : tettar . tisriuinto thetnd , an ; l on that ground he » r ..-. QW . pposc it . ( H ?« r , hecr . ) ' '¦

      LuMi H . V-ne eon * idertrt that the election tc tbfs WU fcmide'iOn Uic * aet t , fits raprallnz a « te !> itc e ^ ntainlnc tlif Piotrstjint ricc ! iirntinn * ' exnrtrd from the RovtreJpi incnnf-Tmity ^ ith ihe T » i « of Rljhis , mklit be obviate- ! b y * » d < li >> ^ a ' fetv wnr < U to it , Matint ! . that no crt oi the BUI <> f XV . ehis shocld he affrcted by it . Mr Spoowrn had ro o'lcMon t-. ruit-nl th * pcunliies fnrinlrn . lnring Pspa' » , u'ls in'o ibis rn ' nntry : but cunt < . > nif Ld that there wj » » i « l ? difference heiwett ' i ) repealins tliose i >< -:,. i ) Ti «» , i ,: j ( i rtudi- 'irg the Introductioii of thosi-VuMs lecil . Adver : ii-g t- > a pi-rnirnms ( V . gtru of thp B' ) mi > i > CathPli ; : Oli > ircti , that "ho « h <> obeyed lii « Spiritonl DirrrtCir m ' s ' fr < -e ] frtim r > itronfil-tlity to God f . r w ^ a ^ h « « diil , " he 'Vaouriced it a >* a'dnctrtn * " siiiivtrsiveof t ! ie Iifor . 'v c . f c . insficiioo , anil oi tit .- Protestant rieht-of p-irufcjivlgment . ' lie had consented to the COnr . fS'inn of 1829 h ' nt he tvoulil h' -ver have t ^ on' » o hftd

      " thft extirbtionof Prnt .-Eian'isrn" r «?* c tiiltcil of at that time . In contenting : to that act , the Protestftiiti hadrommiiirfi a grrat tnistske , ' Mr Sbeil after comrarrit ' n ' R * upon the ( . pcpch of Mr Spoon r , vrnrecdr-J t . > show 1 hR neccs ? . o « t » the first thi 1 . h ; u ! th- ; eoiiraseto assort tost ' the'I rish

      peasant us * a ? S ooi a righ tf his life ss the lunrllor . - ) bdSiohiFettate . an ^ to maintain ihat the " prerpijUi'ci a ? poverty « ,-. fcoth siilt-a of ihechimn ' tl were the " same . " Au < i \ et , hn-. l thiilaws nowin esl . ttrno- be « iiputln forc-o aitainBt th » -:-e two geullninsa , the lattt-r might hare hi .-n tran « porti-il for ] he , and the f « rsn « r would have l > atl tinopportunity of pt 9 ph » M \ ng } . Js ti-irper . inCP principles in Van Diem » ¦ nf « . Land jind " AitVi ' valia . Sit-ce tin- > itiu- ot the Pop'Mi i : ? t » t , vague fears iaiJ been tnler . 'aincd in . this country <> t tbt ; oi \ 5 u- of ( he o ^ suiib . But ! in his opinion , tb ^ ir -virtues hart overTinlarc-d . thiir fault ? . Ataii cTec : j ti ; i-Irisli Jesuits were without bliitiit' , }<>' they bs . 1 not wi : ! iin t ! : e last t ' . irt ; , - yr . ^ rs mixvu V" >« ' - -rive * up with lnj tica ] qucMioiie . crt :, Iioii pait iti ' iiutionai auitati ^ ns . Why . ihen . kc . plawsop ;> n iht statutv book "hicll rondure ;! thi / m liable to thr- punaltv of

      traurpor-Ution ! Wonld Mr -pf . nn « r . Mr PJunitic , « r Sir U . TneHs t > iirUv t ) -c A ; -, rn . j . etnera ! to prosecute sue ! : men a * Puher llntthew or I ) r Dojlc ? Tliis vdt-v wprr unprepure ^ to < V > ; ami wliir . fore should inU-Ur . anc « ' how its ta-st'i , whpn its t * t- 5 i w .-re too ' Ibove to bke ? " He wa ^ ciiif . ilcnt that " Pr . < l . Man ' . S'curitj wbs no to bt- pro-sAted by CuiivMi ; iattr , \\ nu , a . " 'fij-rtc w .-. s ^ ne point in re ^' erenre to which far ' wir-h < . d to ss-ei ; flaust- inirnduPBd into the bill . Ho cmlii Stc n- > reason wh y the Lor ! CliaucpUor of Ireland , who hlifl not-i-isi ' rh patrona-re a * Vit di ? po * al , simuld not bo a C .-uhoiir , •! . wherwhy Ost'foiicism sliouid drt :, r an In- 'b l-arr ^ u : fr < -m uttaiftini ; the pi »* t , v . )< i r . i ^ nitv < it L ' wd C ! i > i >' crllf . r . lie hope ¦ . Inn they \ rtnl iuio ouiii . ir- . c-: cs : tbe bi'l that a ciauta ree'Ifyiss ^ tiiii -jrM . HH-. ' woij ' . ii Ah intmrtnred "" ¦ . i

      Mr Finch ma < jj a siout Protestai-, t epeed ; c"ai : istt ;

      bill . Lf > rd J . Hahvces wk ? not c-nviiiced of t \\? inij . olic ? of this bill by any of thi- ( u-gumentf a-ivKucvi ! « s ; ii « Ft it , " To C . ntinu < - pains and pi-n ^ lties u % uU-Fl the profi-t ^ nrg of a < 1 iff « r < -nt ( T . on wns n ,, t the V-. st mod : ' o * pr .. ni < . th > i : v < intercsfof the Cl . orch nrEi . tJinc . He > M not arpnhsn- ! the * l glit « " < t 4 . ™? . r from the remission mV the pena-tif . ^ to whicli mmib . ? rs o f the . r . JLious or / if rs ofthf Chori-h <> i Oome were no » exposedl . y tl . cir rcside » , ctiut ' iUcfiiv ' > : «* . v . Ht- < lef'ruled the J-guil ^ froui tiieattaiksmaili up .. n ih * i » by Sir R . IiiRli * . and threw . lir- upon Mtcliei . t , Qu < r .-1 . snrlothcrFrench authois , who have r- 'cently sitvrnpjcii u , writethatortlerdosvi ) . jrcaenrcrarprl ' theimprcp-i-ui . ^ s » Wchhadlie , nun ? crauul , - . « lv « aKd to atir up ; he Vvotestant feelings oi lb < - co'Jtitrv against the bill .

      Mr Hawde .-ate , Mr Goulhurn . Mr Estrourt , ar . «! Mr Law opposed thp h-U . Sir John Eistiiope , Mr Jolm Colietr , L » rdSandrm , and Sir Gourde G .- > y suup'TUid tli . motion to po itito rommittee . Tli ,. H « me ' S ..-rtt : irjwarmly advocated the principle o ? rtlaxing as f ? r ;* s po ? siMothep . .-n 8 l sT «; ntt-s s » stin « t thtHoman Ciri » ., lit-f , ilthnngh he < -nttrtfiineu many oi-jectjuaa to the deu . iii of rhe hi'i . Mr J . CetMxxsiid he thongh » if a mati condaotert Ii ini self properly in this world be wot jnstas likely to im t < i b « aven at last whether he was a member of th- Church < r England , a Roman C itholic , a Dissenter , a M-: hr . m . mti . oraHiaaoo ( Laughter . ) Ra was a memhw of t ! i Ohureho ! Bnglsni himself , but he would tie a party to i ><> ¦¦

      intolerance . ( Cries of "Divide ") The _ Bi * h .. pof E « t-r had bad the tffrontei-r to dir . ounce fr-. in the pulpit n ball , the proceeds of which wttetn he given to tbeeharitv fandsfor relief in Ireland and Scotland , thoujrr . th . Quten had attended the opera whratW p-rfurmimces were for a similarpurposp . Great ol . jH « : tiori seeinoi toh .- nie :--> a : nedby tbs right hon . gentleman who la ^ taddivs ^ -i the house tn processions of R : raan Cifholicn in p . nuijicnl robes : for himself he j nustwiy he hoped his hon , » n > learned friend whn had . the conduct ., f tbt bill , would consent to the introduction of a clause in commit t ¦ ¦< which would prevent the bishops from K « . tflt ; t . nhe Him-o oiLordsinthfir ep- « c , ipal habits , when tl . tw went it . plain clothes . ( Luuo UuKhtcr . )

      Mr Watsoh replied to the objtwioas ur ^^ d agains ? th < bdl , and the House divided—For going into committee ,,, ... J 19 Against it i . rj Majority 39 By this decision the WU is !¦•« . The other orders of the dn > were disposed of , and th house adjourned at 6 o ' clock .

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      ; BOW-STRBET ;~ A . TriMMieD'RArK ani > : Bobbeut . Riolurd Harrisonj landlord of the Peacock public-house , in Houehtfln « 8 tre « t , Clare Matkck , » a * charge * with swalm *? £ ll 6 s ; the property of jOharlcs Turner ' . laud ,, lord ottheTJIois' Araispublichouse , inOlementVlar * , and attetnptingto couirhit a rape " upon his win , under Hgeravated circumstances . ; Mrs Turner stated thnt durlnfttte hours of Divine Service on tbo 4 th instant , her husband being out < f town , slie retired to her bedroom to lie down , and havlngfell ae ' leep , bIio was suddenly awoke by the prisoner , who forced open the door , and having his person exposed , he threw himself upon her pressing hU

      hand to her mouth , to prevent her mak jnjj any n ' oisn , hut by using all htr stieoRth she threw hUn off , and got out of the bed . Shethen sat on a chair very much exhausted , and he oRain made n second attempt by throwing himself across her lap , which she resisted as well as she could by holding his ear aud scratching his face ; upon : which fas said , •• Ton- '— -, is that nhnt joii roenn 1 " still Strug . Clin r with her round the room ; trjinjr to overpower her , aud on passing a wilting desk he snatched the amount in question , which she had brought up from the shop for safety . She kept no servant , aBd there was no person Hying in tht- house except nlodger and her brother , both of whom » he thought avere gonn out . She hadb'en suffering mueh from the treatment . sho m « t with , and a waited the arrival of , her husband in town . On the following morning the prisons came again to tho house , '

      utidpsid , ¦ Don ' t be making a singing about that there money , I'll bring it you at nU . ht , " at the . same time holdins up a soverei gn between his finger and thun > b ,. wh ! ch he offered to her if she would spend half an hour up stairs with him , upon which shn threatenvd to look him up unless he went away , and when > her ' husband catno home ho would r ? o what the law allowed . She mentioned the ci-cumsta ' neo to no female , and on Friday when her husband returned , she directly informed him of what took plnce , and they then consulted with a professional man to take proceedings . The witness underwent a long cross-txaminatlon without altering her direct testimony . There , being no defence set up , the MngiUrftto ordered tbe prisoner to enter inte his . own recognizances in the ¦ um of £ 80 for each offence , imd twe sureties . in £ 10 , to answer both charges at the next session of the Central Criminal-Court . ... ' . ¦

      DiroxcebTjT Solpiebs . — . George Ferbyand Edward Aubcry . two privates , in the 2 nd Battalion , of the Coldctrenm Guards , werecR&rsted '' with rlotbus andiisotilerlj conduct , and threatening theconstablesin the execution of th ^ ir duty . - Tbe cade occupied ' the court tome time , nnd from the evidence adriuced it appeared that 101 F division received information while on duty In Xoni ; . atre that a person had bren robbed of bis hat by two oldlers , but be refused to prefer the chargtyiand they took it an » y . About two o'clock in tbe morning ihurr vat a disturbance in New-Btreet , Govent-gardeu , ond the uritoner Perby was found in his uniform , drunk , swingir » g big belt over his head , and threatening ¦ to dash out the bruins of every constable who dared approach

      him - Shortly after the other prifoner wns s ; en with tht nut in his possession , previous to which they kuockoiT a basket of clstlies off a poor man's head , andi-tmriug repeat illy refused W e 0 ' to their bairacka , they wen tnk < n into custody , the prisoner ¥ erb > continuing to ubi the tnont violent language against the police . The prisoner Auhrey denied having Ktolen the hat , having gut it from a young mnn ns a security , with whom he had been irainMinff . and the other prisoner declared he never in tended injury to the officers , by whom the facts ngain > t him wi-re overitaten'i ' ilr ' Hehry said they bad grossl y niitcondncted them'elves , and , as drunkenness could b ( tin excuse , they should pay a penalty of £ 5 each , in r > eftuH of which , they should be imprisoned for one month . ... ... : ' ......- . .

      LAMBETH , —WBOtESALE SWWDMNO . —On Monday Joint Regan , who bad been proprietor of the Adelphi Sharles . on- more recently kept- the Wine Rooms in the WestraliiPter-road , was placed at ; the bar , before Mi * Elliott , on various charges of > gross fraud . s Mr Gamt ? « pp- 'are' 1 to prosecute for one of the persons' victimisad , and Mt nnher' 8 appeared for . the prisoner .. From the evidence , which was > oroow ! iat lengtby r it appeared that a ihrn-i time since the prisoner took a bouse in the Broadway . We ttninster , and fitted it up in a very expensive manner for tbe grooery , provision , and cheesemongery husincac , but before the day on which ho promise '! to open f < ir business had arrived , lie . disposed of the whole of the fixtures . Among b 8 victim- * was Mr Dovid Lewip , n jnp : iiner and tea ouniBter m » lcer , in Olerkenwell j Mr

      C ! i ^ . Burdett , a beani and soak- maker , in Bishopsgute Without : and Mr Williams , n gasutterj in Gray ' t-Inn . l » np ; but the strongest case : was that of a poor man named Tnuies , who had been swindled out of a pony and chaise . « f the ralue of £ 18 . From the statement of Mr Games , borne out by the testimony of the complainant , it nppi « ri-d that about three weeks ago , when wanting m » m y very badly , he agreed to sell a pony and chaise cart t > Ueira" for £ 18 , inte . ndlni ; that it should be a ready moo- . v hargain . On getting possc . ° 8 ion of the properly ; however , the prisoner said tliut ho was taken Bliort of c . ish . : ind that he hid made arrnngements with a friend 'it hi « . named Nordon , to discount his bil ) . Toulea : ooli « lily took a bill drawn by the prisoner for £ 18 , itnd m-ii ' p nuvable at the London and Westminster Bank , mid

      the latter observing that the : discount would be 18 s , ii aided him that sum . The bill was- carried to Nordon , wltn nt first exhibited a disposition to discount it , but found fnult with th < - form in which it was drawn ; and a * . rcond bill betng written out ,-the first was detained by the p « rtie » . Nordon then changed bis tone , said he could net the bill discounted , but ultimately refused to have anything to do with it . The witness , in reply to a qnrotion put by the magistrate , said be had been induced to part with his property solely on the prisoner ' s representation , that hi . trimd Norton would discount his bill on the fame day that he gave it . The prisoner was remantle' for a week . On tho application of his attorney , however , he wait a- 'roitted to bail . At the conclusion of

      the case , Mr Gamw ; on the part of the prosecutioii , applied tn the magistrate for the assistance of Serjeant Guff a « it required more than ordinary judgment in ¦/• --trlng tt up . There could be very little doubt ,- ho said , that the house in WentminstcTs bad been taken by the prisoner , who had hern formerly mixed up In such trans-« otimn , Tor the purposes of iraud , and on the next elimination , 'he , Mr Games , expected to see present at least a hundred o * bis vicims MARVLEBONB— A Magistrate ' s DiriNiTtoK or a 0 fnt . ' '^ -A man , nanud William Whelan , wns charged In-108 n who said . "Please your worship , on Saturday nitrht I found th- prisoner drunk , and with the assisttnce « 'two cililians . I took him to the Btation-hou < e . "

      —Mr R-nlin « on : Who do you cill civilians 1—Consta hie : Thej were two " pents . " —MrRawliuson : Do you m'nu to say thst th * y were " gentt . !'—Consuble : Yes . your worship—Mi- Rawllnson : Don't talk of f gents . " suain , I pray you . . A " gent . " is a blackguard . —The rienner ivasdisctiArged . . . ' R <> BBE » T AT TBC LnMDoH ADD BlBMINOHAH RAILWAT St * tioH . -- On Tuesday Mr RawHuson was occupied lor early two hours iu the investigation of a chargt KititiBt a number of . persons who had been taken into custody for having been concerned in stealing property in thi ! amount of neariy £ 600 . from a van belonging to ' ' msr Crowley and Co ., whl-h firm had , by hand-bllld , offered n rewar ' . of £ 80 , for such information as would It-ad t » the apprehension and conviction of tbe thieveB . —

      The tmmes of the prisomrs were John Freer , William Mirtln . Henry Bust . Samue . Freer , John Cheny , Joseph 'l '» ylor , James Taylor , Joel Taylor , Joseph Cooper , und William Pullen . A considerable degree of interest wn . < t xeiteii inconsrqn nee of the numerous robb .. rii s wliieb , from time to time , have been perpetrated at the diffircnt stations and tbe Court was , therefore , much crowded . — Mr Vann attended for the prosecution ; Mr Wilkinson , manager to Messrs Crowley ' s , the well-known railway cirri , h , aleo attended ; an did Mr Barker , superintendent of th-s railway company ' s police , and Inspector Past-oe , of the N divlitioii . A great deal of evidence was th-n gone into , from which it oppeared that several of

      the pmoncrshad carried off from the premises a quantity o'V > oil * in a van , and thatthey bad no right whatever to il > so . A portion of the said goods was ultimately met with b y Sergeant Sanders , at No . 3 , Colebrook-place , Iloxton . It was further shown that at the house In qutrsti' . n much of the property stolen was discovered , Ot «> t-. r evidence was gone in-o touching the robbery , and those prisoners first-named were remanded till Tuesday neit the remaining three were discharged on their promising to appear on the day named . It is fully exprctc ; that on the mxt examination some £ » cls will be elici'id which will hire « tendency to exhibit to the pnwtc a system of rubbery carried on upon a very extolsivescnle . ¦ ¦ '

      WORsniP . STRBET . —On Tuesdoy Thomag Bone , 0 mid'l ' e-iiged man of respectable appearance , was charged with having obtained , by false pretances , several gold watches and articles ot jeweller > , of the value of £ 55 , from Mr Charles Hadell , described as a cabinetmaker flivl dealer in fancy Roods , residing in B . tlttc-streot , St Lnkr ' s . The prosi . cntor stated that he had been ac quainted fur about two months with the prisoner , and that parsaant to an appointment between them , be went on Saturday afternoon to the 0 r « wn Tavern , in Cltrkewell-gievn , to exhibit to him a quantity of jewellery nnd WHtciiBs , for which the prisoner told him he could find a purchaser . The articles in question consisted of four gold welches , two chains , and six pair of earrings , and tU . prisoner requested his permission to show them to a ueutlenaan , of whom he said he had just purchased about £ 700 w ... rth of timber , and who was anxious to make suitable presents to two of his daughters , wfa * were about to be married ; On the faith of this statement , witness il

      n .-wed him to leave the house with the articles , and after about an hour ' s abstnee , the prisoner returned , and told him that he had seut the goods to the Waterloo * road , fur the inspection ot tho intended purchaser , and thai thuy must proceed there together to complete the nogotiation . Ho accordingly accompanied the prisoner to thnt locality , where they called at two or three hatt * n withoit meeting tbe person of whom they Wf re in quest , but at each of whicti tbe prisoner piled him with brandv . snd water , and finally contrived to give him tha slip , and got clear off with the property . He had since called several times at the prisoner ' s residence , but waa unab-e to meet with him until the preceding evening « liei ( he remained in the neighbourhood with two QtuP ers in plain clothes , till the anival of the prisoner , an ^ gave I Mm into custody .-Mr 8 olomon , a wXUton , v , ho op-Ipcwrt for the defence , contended that the . tr ansaction i " ! "' ed ra " " ? , debt ' ond co ^ t . ot pri , perly be j reside the subject of criminal proc « dings ,.- _ Mr Arnold j Lowcver , considered it bis duty to rerar ; nd the ptUoher j » pon t < w charge , but w mm to -. ^^ „„

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      future appearance , bim * yl !' i » i £ 200 , and two sureties 0 £ 100 eachT '¦' . ' , '¦ *" ;!• '' - . : ' ' ¦ ' . " , : ; - ' . ' '' ' . " SOU T H WARK . —Arfiiur H « yw 6 od , a rough looking cortnMjnan . 'ivascharw ^ i ' . wHh ' : Belting the' cft'OR ! Tvitrd iii Si Qlive * * 'Wbrklioiisbbo fire . thepArtdr ' of . tbe . ' w . irkhbn s ' qstated ' thnt thtrprisoner , with soreral other ' s ,. ' < ns ardinitt . 'd into tbe cnsual wart to gla » p , Soon after , tht , it * adm ! s « i ' on an . Wi ' rnj 1 was g lv-n that a fire wa « ra « lhjr in the casual ward , and on proceeiiitli ! there | t wos finind tlie placn-was all envelope ^ U \ a dense smpfce , » no thnt a UU . ntity ' ofslraw ' wasQ . n ' nre in the middle of ' tlKjfleor . tlie boards of which were in . ilnmea . Several p- ' reons were immediately i-m lojrditi conveying water from the yatd to tbo ward , with which the fire was ' . at . lra Kth ex . tinguished . The porter aHderi ti . nt had not . the alarm bet-n . given when It wits , the house , with Us in'ttate . a , . ^ . ^ j ,, ^^ ., .,,. ^ , _ , ,,,, HW ^ ,,., ., .,,, „ . » .,.,,, » .,,. . ' -i : «^ »¦ . — -. »* -. * > ji

      would vt-ry likely have betn .-. burnt . At all events many lives would have been Mu-rinVd , tbere being , a numbt-r of agtd people ther . who ware too i' . flrm to be eunhl ? d to escape . A youth « ns then called . forward , and he stated th » the waa lyin ? Hpwn in the casual wntd , nnd being nwako at the time saw the prisoner , who was smoking , throw front hl « jti j * some li ghted tobacco , wtilch ignited the srraw . ' and it was soon on Art . The priloner made no effort to extinguish the flames , bu » seemi d to enjoy it , and witneps jumpi ; il up and ran oat of the ward , which wa ' s'full . of smpke , and gave tli * al ; irm of fire . Mr fjottlngham said it , wp « extremely improper to allow pcr ^ ris in the jirii > pner ' V situation toftnnke tobacco . in a plrico where gunh a ' disaster as thnt of a fire ' mtght be attended with . tueh fearful comeqaences t "

      the KufMtunate inmates . He then nsked th « -p > Noner what ho had to say iu pns . wi ' r to the charge f The porter 6 aid thii ' t no smoking was ' permitted , but that with nil their vigilance some of the men ttd ' mltte' 4 oc ' casionully contriv > d to Brooke in the ward , hut such a prnctlee was strongly condemned by the Board of Guardians ! The prisoner said that he ' admitted smoking a pip « of tohacco In the ward , and thnt soma of tho ashes drop , pine into the dry straw , set fir - to It all in a moment , andthat he was nearly overpowered with the smoke or be would have lent a ban In ex liignlshiri ? the fltmos It did not seem possible , he added , that hn would have wilfiillj committed such an ' act , for he would h . ve tun

      the risk of losing his own life . Mr Cottlngham 8 rtW that ntas ' a most fortunate circumstancfc that the lad witnessed ' tho circumstance of the prisoner dropping the tobacco , ashes ampngst the straw , o thprwiqe a most nfrlptis loss of life might have ensued ., The magistrate then pointed out to tho prisoner the extreme Impropriety o ! bis con . duct , in smoking In such a . plaee . and added , thnt if ho was satisfied he « et ' nro ;^" ' t h ^ Waw lweTittoiially , hn should tmquestlonebl y h > fe sent nlnV for' trtoU but nsho believ . d It was the result of . accldent . ho should , therefore , on this oec a » loi » . ' discharge ! hlm , am 1 at the same time trusted that It would operati- as an exarotile . . ; 1 : v ;

      GUtLDHALL . —PykKCti , Post CouMty ; . -L ' The i-tTnirs of : this defunct . Cump ' iiny ' on Tu esdnj' were brongbt under the notice of Sir P . Laurie , and » he room wan crow-led with guards and drivers . . Mr Ashurm ' * cl . rk attended ns the representative of tho latter body , nnd Mr Strict , ' , solicitor , appeared on ; . behalf ' or * some ot th * directors . The matter had b en mentioned to Sir . Piter the previous day , in ' onscqiicnce of one of t ! i > .- piirccl carts which had betn detained by the meti ,, and'deposited at th 9 Stables of Mr . Matthews , a . dairymR ' n ,, In thi Boroujfh , having been forcibly removed * by a : Van »> I forty Irishmen , cojlecteil in , St Giles ' s , and ' ^ ving hi . en retaken by the men . in tlie City .- Sir P . ' Lnurie ex . pressed his . surprise that this matter had not been , seltled long ago , as he had been publicly assured bt tlin «

      ecretary , Mr Gough , that four of the riirectors were worih £ 40 000 . Mr Ashley rcplisd thsre was . one directors man of ^ ood property T . he Hollcitur employed to wind up the company ' s affairs was engaged In - 'ispnsinir of the asfestsofthe concern , and paytaft r » for as tjscy woiild eo the sums due to the poor m , en whom Mr Ashurstrepresented . ThecatU had he < n » old , butt 4 f : thvj : «» rre oelivered the Layers would not pay fr them , ' and noth'tis ; could be paid to the poer men simply bfcause they per . Sibted In withholding the property . ' Mr AR > inr > i'scleric aaid they were not satisflnd that when they gave »» th « carts . they , would be paid ., . They . ^ crs rjl . d 10 Mr King : well , the builder of the carts , Now he had Im 11 paid £ 1 , 200 ; hut £ 600 was owing , to him , an .-l if tb-onns werB , once delivered , woutri h « not set them i . ffngaii . st his bill t The men had n right to bewitisfi d tlm : Mr Kingwell wag prepared and intfcnded to pay for the carts

      , and next , that the solicitor who ncetved the . money was disposed and wan dulv authorised to divide It . . Sir P . Laurie saw no difficulty in trusting to tun-pour men re . storing any property they held , if they were piiul . T e directors ought to club together , nnd produce the nn ' . ney . The Hon . A |? ustu « P . Berkeley waa put forth us 11 ( Ur r . tor , but ha had publicly denied it . , Mr Ashley saidi that notwithstanding his denial hb was a director , ami lie had his name id a deed .. Sir P . Laurie «» td this , wns the age of humbug . The public would , be ( . "tiled w ' -th anything . One of thf delusions of tbeda . fw . ts Htut want of education wax ' the ( treat source «( crime , the truth being , that the mo 0 e'luratiou hadpvoat i-swl , thV greater had been the incrense of crime . With rerard to tbo matter before him , it had better stand oivr « u the nextdoy , when the solicitor lor ( he directura iioud attend . . ' ., ¦ . ,

      On the following day , nil tho parties iippr ' -M-id . Mr Hurd represented Mr Kingive l .. whi > had pun- ' i . is-. Ml the carts ; Mr AsUurst ' s clerk apn « ar «( l for the n rivevs ; «» ,. l Mr Strict for . tho company . Sir Peter . Lnurie nski .-d if Mr Strict was the gentleman who Raid . thtt . f'Ur « i" the directors were worth £ 40 000 , « nd « y « ry sbillitu , ' owIhb would be Immediately paid Mr Strict said hi ? w . m rot , but there wa « no want of inimey , and he hi . d b . « - n en . trusted to endeavour to arrange thi > . company ' - ; affairs In the first place he propo » ed topiyoff thb men , al . out 180 in numbtr . The horses and carts were more 'hint sufficientfor the purpose . He l >» tl sold the ¦ 1 ) hvk » . « b' \ repaid with that one-half of the deposit * \ mat ) - by

      thdrivers , Ac . He had also soW tlie carts to tlie . ruaU . tc . if them , and upon deliverim ? the who's ot ' . tlinn- lie was : ' a r celvo £ 600 , which was more than sufiiciei . t t << pav tii . rest of the deposits and thewaae" ( iue , sup | in * i > . ( ,-ev , r . man to have a week ' s notice in > m the day th . ' cni-in was closed ; but the men had p . it-sssirmot Horenl cuts . secreted in different place * , and prevented IHm ir •• m doing what be intended . One of tho drivers sniit « ln » the company had tnirty . six out of the fortj-flvi * oavts . When Mr Kingwell resorted to hiring gangM ot" Iri-h to forcibly scixe property , It did not look lik « mean in *; t pay for it , but seizing it in reduction of his debt . Sir Peter confessed this seemed an if the cart-builder it » . < . 1 ¦ .

      terminf d to take care of himself . The nim-to :- * iuiii !' . « deal safely with the men bj pa < inK the amount . m \ A m . ceiving the carts at the same time and place Mr Strict thought It was quitH reasonitble that the . comi > sin >\ ; r . i perty should be first collectetl ¦ a » d sold befor .- > i-t > directors dipped further into their pocknts . sir lvicr apprehended they had not dipped much yet . Mr Ashurst ' aclerk safd they wetenot agr . pd a « to ' whAt <« : ! * due . By the deposit note n lvtn when the m :-n paid their money , It was contradieted that the m « n-, v sh . Mii . i be returned any day they left the cumpanv ' R amiec , u « rt

      the non-pajmsnt of the deposit of Itself cowKtituwt « continuance of the service up to this dny . It wa i f :. iv , because , till they could stake their little capital eNewherc ' they could not get employ . Mr Strict saiit thev ii ; sd hindered him from repaying tha BepoMt hy withhoidi-i part of th « proparty . They might continue to •• . I ; . which Mr Strict offered , they be al oweil fimr »¦ ei :. y , \ Striot had better consult the dirwten on thi » . lUr .

      man must expert to pay Bomothing for his foil } . Mi Ashurst ' s clerk put in a olalm for £ 10 mure . The men had borrowed £ 40 on depositing five carts , with tu « rm :. ditlon that they mightbesdd at the eudof tun . Miil-.. if not redeemed with £ 50 . Mr Striot said he wouki Iki . > > nothing to do with it . It was , in effect , a oiiiirgc » i' t . " its for the interest of £ 40 for one nionth , or a few >\ w \ -: !¦ rt on the security ofnroperty worth abnvp £ 100 . Sir INt-r Laurie hoped they would arntng * all ih matfti * i . si « , ; , v . themselves in a . dny or two ; or if both sides wouit h . ji-,. mitto his arbitration , they niiuht app . ^ al tirhitu w >?\\\ He asked what bad become of the parcels wl-. ieli <> . v < - -u the company ' * hands when it stopped , Mr AWlio ^ t said they were all forwarded the -sumo evening . T ? , fc companyhadonlyttbouthalfa dmen packages , ui w spect to which neither the p irty to whom nor by whom they were sent , conldbe discovered . Q eat carrier . " , lilio the Birmingham Railway , had £ 1 , 000 worth of goods petannum left on their hands . The parties thanked s-i P-ter for giving them a hearing and retired .

      LAMBETH . —John Bone , a confidential servant In the employment of Mr Edward Harris Robblts , boot awl shoemaker , Walworth . road , was placed at tho b , n for final examination , on a charxe of plunderiiif : his - master of property to a considerable amount . Vn ti .-former examination it was shown that tbo prUomr r-n some time past had been in the habit of » emUi p ' 11 ? master ' s materials to his own house ns well as to tiir ! ferent workmen , to get boots anil shoes made u ; .- u-x himself ; and not content with tlilfe , aitually cm ; , fi .. < ft the boots and shoes of his employer ready made . Ou his house being searched a vast quantity of property * va » found there , and nearly the whole of it boro the

      nxnucutorgprivate mark . This day Mr R . ibbits wUV . i 5 ., withdraw from tbo prosecution , on tbe ground , gt :-, u alleged , that he was not awor wlun he caused tb « v >> - sonerto be taken into custody , that the pani $ h > . » t : ii ; would « xeeed three or six months' iraprlsoWJietu-, ! -. m finding that it was likely to be much tnortt seriouii , ami also ea account of the prisoner's family aud IHenitf , be did not wish to press the charge . McBUiott rentarU ^ d tbatthecasewasonoofso serious a character , tl . at :, e could not , consistently wlthUUdutj tinhe public , allow it to be arranged in any way , but must send it brtbio a jury . The prisoner wes accurdiuelv committed f » v trial . . . . .

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      Pdnoh OIiihs Bdooaiioji Soheub Having bvt-n peqoested to " pronounce" on the s bjcotoft'ie Corernrnent eduoation 8 Chem « , we beg leave to say that we have weighed the pro * and the c ons in those scales of justice which we always carry about with ua . We have looked at the project Uselt , niid . attlicoharn . C ^ r tl the opposition which it has encount ered ; and wli , n idoired to Bay whether we think tbe remedy propose "S ^ t * " !? f ? r ? " ^ ^ . T ait 6 i 9 n » oro reason , ab e than the hostility with whuh it is met , wo have nly to observe to the public at- larve-M Your B < xmet and antidote are .-faotli before you . " -. ftmci W " Ths : Soitak asd . thb IwsH .-We hear tbattha & ? &s ! i 2 tifir ' **'**>*>

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      " TllE WAitRlNGTON Vl WpPIRAf " ORS /' "" „ .. lMPbRTAN 7 * MEETING . ¦ _ ' ^ A . < len ? ely-crowded ine ^ ting of raeohaniM wis held last nij-hv . Friday , A ] .. * il 9 , in the large Hall if the UtcoriixTiivern , Itateliff ^ Crpsa / ip t » ke into conmler . ' * tiou the late . trial at Liverpool . Mr Robkht SswjFt . . was unanimously c tlied ;( o the chair , and aaid i , lie purpose for which they had met was . a ver > jtraT-jSittorwai-d pho ; sure he was , that they all sympathised ,. with their persecuted " , brethren of Newion . ( Ilejir , hear . ) Their committe . ; hn ' d receired i circular from Manoli .-ster , which stated that nine of their brethren hail baen conviqted at . the Liverpnnl a . ss / Zt ! s by a prejudiced jury , and balled on the tmechnnicftthroiuhiiutthft country t" aid and assist » tliat committee in bringing : the caao , on . a writ of uridr , iiiti ) tlu-Quean ' s Beneb , and , in order toraiae tlio necessary n ) oans ,, it recommended that the levy « f sixpence per week , ' per man , should be kept on For the onsuinc six weeks . ( Loud cheers . ) .. „ -. » „ .,.. „ .. . .... . ~_ - , ^

      Mr Nkwt »» , tho secretary , said , that after the enthtlSifis ^ ic ^ meetinK held in " ; this place last December , tlie committee had *; nt tin meetings in Lambeth and Greenwich : they li ; id collected from their various sli'ips £ 353 to £ 364 , and ho had the satisfaction of telling them th « v had still in thehandH of the three rohVmittees' of Ean Lnn / fon , ' West London , and Greenwich , the sum of £ 65 ; Mr Roberts had received upwards of £ 900 . Me ( Mr Newton ) thought it wouW be as well if the committee formerly elected were to resign , in order to :-give that meeting an opiiorlunity of expressing its opinion . ( Cheers . ) . Mr Bownk moved , " That the late committee he rfcappointed , ami that tht best thanks of this meeting be given them for their past services . " ¦ ( Cheers . ) > Vlr Peoplks seconded tbe motion , which waa earried unanim"U *! y

      Mr Joseph Musto sail I lie thought they were much indebted to the Manchester committee . Tlie men whom the sapient jury had found guiity were onl y guilty of such doings as most of them in that meet ing would be proud of . ( dear , hear . ) He therefore appealed to them , by their brethren ' s suffering wives and children , by their duaire to prevent the same thinr b ' a ' ubenin ' e to tnemselvcs , to be up and doing , and inciting their fellow-men to . da likewise . He 0 'indti'led by moving the . following resolution : — " That , in conformity with the reques . of the committee nt Manchester , w <> hereby pledge ourselves individually and colb . otively to the continuation of a aubscription of 6 d per week , per man , for six weeks longer . .. ••¦ ¦ -. ¦

      Mr WAtKBa seconded the motion . Mr Newton , in -uppnrtnf the resolution , said they must not bs satisfied with , holding up of bands , but endeavour te carry out the great obiect in View . ( Loud cheers . ) QVy were deepiy indebted to tho , few individuals' who had volunteered their , services as collectors . By the circular he held in his hand lie perceived ' that the subjeripiion was not confined te engineer * , —tho masons of Liverpool oad subscribed the liberal sum of j > 120 The plaBte . rera , sawyers , corn-yrinders , » n < l bricklayers ol Birkcnliettd had followed this good example . ( L'iud cheer * . ) -After the very able and impartial summing up of Baron Rolle they would doubtless be astonished it tho finding of the jury . ( IJear , hear . ) A curious f attire of the trial « v , is , that tho > e who were charged wivli intimidation were set at liberty , whilst the more quiut one * wci * e convicted ( hear , hear ) :

      however , they must have the men brought before the Judges of the Queen ' s Bench , and then , if the other judges coincifiei- with Baron Rolle , the result must bean acquittal , ( Loud cheeni . ) The Northern Star of Saturday would contain an excellent report ot tbe trial extending nveKloiir columns and a half , independcutnfu first rats- leadina article on the subject . ( Great applause . ) For the appeal to'the Bench Mr Roberts had alre-idy engaged that j ; reat lawyer , Sir Fitzrny Kellv , as well : ia Mr Peacock ; it was their duty to find tho means to pay for this talented aid . To-effect this object they niUHt agitate not only publicly but' privately , and he hoped the ' next report that was issued witild show all the Shops -that had contributed ttx-ir-fair quota ; so must they more firmly adliere ; and by their stronyly-cemented union enjoy ' all the blessings co-operas ion can afford . ( Great applause ) r

      Mr lhsi » LBT « aid he i ' uiiy agreed with the previous speakers , " that this wan ndmere trade question . •) iit a-natio ' iml one . " England had often f-liownlril iant examples of a nation striving ' to free herself from 1 ho' en t bra I rei' r . t " t » f serfdom ( Hear . bear . ) " A former pi-riml had witiifn »' dt ) ie Kentish smith , ' raisin ; the tool witli which he wrought , and dashing out the brains of the lewd and iiiso ' ent tax collector—( loud cheers)—birt now they had laid aside the club , and taken to flu ]) t ! i-ii * pence , in order '' tbat they minhfc meet Awi * oppiibuiifsi in the courts of law . ( Applause . ) However , he did nut tbihk they would cvi . t uet true jusiio- until such time as ihe wot-kiDg

      men form * d a pirt v . i th ; - jury-olassi-uniil they were u-aUy . tried by thyir i « er » . ( Loud applause . ) lie honed , as -oon us i ' Iuk imsinW . was done with , to find their trade thorc . ^ iily organised , with a view to the malting of their cnpii . ti s-productive . Nothing abort of ro operation c * uM or would secure the great bleasinirfor whinh th : y cmtcrnly ^ . ' They had many good ( Xiinsp ' es befure tlicm ; lor iutttance , the National Laud Co'r-rariyV and tiic National Association ; for Eirfr-tnc ! isitiu the People . They might be assured that uotii ttiey had a voiee in selecting the juries , and in ehoo-jiri *; the ic : ;; . st ,-uo ! -5 , they never would be saf-- from pioVccutionslikc the present . ( Vehement cheerina . ) ¦ .

      Mr Hklumt s > i'd lu-tould not agree with the moti on ^ . 'Tic Wi > ul iiniii : ous ) y . •' Mr Mattiiias ih-ivi . 'd '' That ' a vote of thanks be siven to iSjc- reporter , editors and proprietors of the Northern tit' \ i \ for their talented , persevering arul utiwtari'V , ! hJvuciu-v of the cause of the oppressed i . md rt'i' 8- ! i'utf > . l nud tht ! rights of the industrious ini !! i « ' n << l < niir .-iliy , "

      Mr Nkwton 6 !> i . l tl : <* y c . iiild not be too grateful to the Northern Star tor ' ' .. lie service it had rendered their limit- in j > aiT ! :-nlar , am \ tUe working millions generally . —Tlio resolution was then put and carried mumnxmsly . . A ^ occnd meeting was announced to be held on Siitiirctay ( tins evcinn-.. ) , at . the Ttraperance Uall , VV . itcrihwoad ; anc ! a ihiid ; it Greenwich ; on , Weducsdsiy evening i-H-xL ' A vote ot th , inl ( s was givci * . to the chairman , and tlic iaa-iing dissolved .

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      nnprmcSpled employee . ( Loudcheera . ) Holook ^ it ; 'f JboirdUty-ttiSphdldthettWAtafn- « l i ?! ** gntr . True , the , h » fJnoladypistrone 8 ger , Whad tl " f » ^ TJ 11 h . and n ^ »• 8 «^ ripS 8 tA ' them , but had they not theirxommoa , tSanai ? mon mterestto up . holri . ) ( Great onaSSS ^ S ** : bsen called the ari s tocracy ,, f the trades ? a nd hi ' k ! too prendtojoin with carpenters , plastered . t ^ jugen , and weavers , buthe disclaimed tho in 2 * tion . ( Loud cheers . ) . They mi Rht not bav « I *' -flatly Mra- ^ w Uii the . neriJ , of 21 ? eUtiTepruiwpla , and having been able to 8 ' iinl ' thom ^ iv es uiune , it had kept them i \ t& state on inuon , but of this he was sure , thnt thcymuststrpt X out a helping hind to their poo ' rer brethren a 1 elevato them in tho social scale , or they would ' , ! ir mately dw » the engineers down tb their level ( Gil I applause . ) ' The dnlv way that they would effectuniu serve their brethren in misfortune , was b ? * » ubscriD ; r freely , and taking their case into the Court nf Qseen ' g Benob , and once before air un preiudifBn ?

      bunal , be thought an acquittal certain . ( Cheer 1 The resolution was unahitnously adopted . On tho motion of Messw Piiling and Hanson avM « of thanks was given to the committee who had «!„ ducted the subscription hitherto for the South Lon don District , and their re-appointment was » dnnr « , i by acclamation . ««" p « u MrWjLunu Nkvttoii thought they had another duty to perform . He stood thereinjuiu social position a member of a Trades body , and as such was totnlhf disconnected » ith politics of any description Ho felt that tbo Northern Star had done them great ser vice , not only on the present occasion , although th « f was largo , for itrthat day ' a paper they hnd %£ columns and a halt of tho trial matter , a leadin ? article , and a fair report of their last night ' * mtetir , ;

      tnereon . threat npplanse . ) But that journal had also done them great service on former occasions Aftor paying some high compliments to the reporter ( Mr Stallwood ) for the great interest he took in their affairs , and for his general assiduity , he concluded by moving : —' That the be « t thanks of this meeting are hereby glvca to the Editors nnd Reporter of tbe Northern Star , for the great services they have rendered our trade . ( Load cheering . ) ¦ Mr IJindlst , in seconding the motion , paid he could nut wave politics , for although he felt the service rendered in . a social point' of view , he thanked that journal equnlly for its able advocacy of the enfranchisement of the millions , a question he thought deeply interesting to all , for once admit the people to political equality , and they would hear no more of

      suon trials as that of the Warrington men . ( Great cheering . ) The resolution was carried amidst the acclamation of all . Mr S 1 M . 1 . W 00 D rose amid renewed cheerine to ae knowledge the compliment , and said , as far a 9 big own humble abilities were concerned , they were always at their service . Ever since the great consolidated union , - he had taken a deep and lively interest in trade affairs , and as regarded the editors of that journal including its proprietor , sure he waj that they felt but too happy when it was in their power to serve , in the smallest way , the interest of tbe industrious millions . ( Great cheering . ) A Tin-plate Worker rose in thebody of the meet , ing and said , he should much like to see a resolution somB'hmg like the following adopted : —

      Tbat the attempt to suppress all legal resistance In . drfeneeof labour , by the conviction ot our fellow-work , men , is aot only uujiut to them , but is also of the utmost Importance to everv individual who lives by fait labour , and we recommend the attention of tho several trade * bodies throughout the Kingdom be called to this case ; and at tbo same time to solicit their support , and enlist their sympath y la behalf of our unfortunate brethren of Newton . After a few words from Messrs Milward , Ilindley , and Newton , it was resolved that the resolution be referred to the cemmittee , with a view t « the carry , ing its spirit into operation . > A vote of thanks was then awarded te the chair , man , by acclamation , and ene of the most cnthusisatio meetings we ever witnessed quietly dissolved .

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      MEETING AT GREENWICH . , A very numerous ' and highly respectable meeting of engineers w »» held on Tnesday evening , April 13-h io the spacious room of theHorth Pole Tavrrn , Greenwich , Mr Johs Holland was unanimously called to th * chair , and having read the circular convening tho meut-Ing , sai . i other trades had been invited to attend , because they ( tbe engineers ) wished their sympathy . Tht-y did not ask them to sub . cribe . , However , if they thought fit to do so , such assistance would be kindly received . M « it present . w « re , doubtless , awaro of the origin of the dUpute between Messrs Jones and Potts , and their min , that it commenced by » breach of the usages of the trade 00 the part of tho employer * , and be had no doubt that they hadals . learned by this time , that thedi'p \ itehadre . sultBd in tbe conviction of nine of tbe Men , » nd that , too , evidently in opposition to the summing-up of the judge . He thought it an imperative duty to obtain a fair and impartial trial for their much-wronged brethren , ( Loud cheers . ) ,

      The District Secretary ( Mr H . Broderlck ) read a state , ment of the receipts and expenfl * tare of the committee , which , on the motion of Messrs Law * and Martin , was de « dared to be highly satisfactory , MrBBODEBicK said , they wtruawnre of theeuormou * lengili pf the indictment against the men of Newton . It contained no less than 991 points . Yet the Jurj brought in a verdict of guilty against nine of tteir brethren in a quarter of an hour . He thought this , of itself , was quite ? sufficient to demand further inquiry . He had , therefore , much pleasure in mw . ug tha f ollOwiBg resold . Mod r—•• That thi * meeting protests against tha unjust verdict of a biassed jury , who have convicted nine of our fellowworkmen on general charge of conspiracy ; this meeting being of opinion tho mtmonly exercised a light at . once legal and jtist . " Mr Wmdok seconded tha motion , which wa » carried unanimously .

      Mr Cwwm J 4 c « so * moved the following resolutioQ ;_ . ' Thttt In conformity with the request of the commits . at Manchester , we hereby pledge ourselves , individually and collectively , to tbe continuation of a subscription of swpecse per week , per man , for sis weeks to come . " Mr B-asul Cuik seconded the resolution . Mr HtwpiBV said , he wa » gratified to B * d so many as . sembled toenter their solemn protest Wtainrt ttt « verdict of what they justly deemed a prejudiced Jury—and to de . mand , and take the necessary g teps to secure a fair trial forthelroppreised brethren . ( Cheers . ) Koagreedwlth former speaker that the masters were the-aggressors , uotthemen ; he also agreed tbat it was conspiracy on th » pa « tof the masters to . ' -impoverish" the- nen . The masters had the making and tho enforcing o the law ; nevertheless , by clubbing their penceand . acting In the

      , spirU of union , they could and would teach , their oppressors such a lesson tbattbey would not anally forget The ma of Newton felt that » hey had acted strtetly rigkt , and thej were determined to defend them at an ; cost . ( Great cheering . ) No doubt * was a novelstep . forworking-man to walk iuto the Court of Queen ' s Bench with 8 ir Fiu-roj Kelly at their head , but this was tbe age of progression . ( Loadcheers . ) Thi » tml had set them thinking : it would ? r « pare them for new scenes , cnuse them to « ploreu » W n > Ms for future opeimtion . ( Bear , be **) Bbould tbil a » eal to tbe Qseeait Bench fall , tare would be yet uwther dooropen . aa appeal to the twelve Judgei . ( Grrtt obeering . ) let them rally round their -brethren , persevere to the last , and victory . must ultimately crown their efforts . ( Vehement cheeringj The resolution wa » e&vrled unanimously .

      Mr WiituiiIfewToii aaid , this was their third me « U ing , and all welLatcended , alleihlbWng good feeling » a 4 the holiest enthttaMwm . Mr » . delivered an excellent sptecb , aud conaiuded by moving .: * -. "Thatthls-nMtHng feels called upon to express theiff warmest thualu to the conductors of the Northern SUr , and tuoh other newspapers as ham advocated the caui » of their persecuted fellow-workmen . " Ur Newton here pointed out the great service tho Northern Star ia particular had rendered their tiaK ia the shape © fable leaders , re | o « t » , Ao ., 4 o . He thought it was their bounden duty to-support the paper that , supported them , and leave the suppos * of ethers to Ujow » b » benefited by them . ( LeudoheeM . ) Mr P » o * su seconded thfr tooUon , which wag-Qurrltd uoanitaously amid the lc « dest » ppl&usa .

      Mr Bostson , Yice-Preeirleakof the National Association ofUnked Trades for the SmpJoymeut of Labovus rose an * expKgeed the great pleamise he had experienced in Hste * ing » . the two able aadtloouent speakers who badprf hfth . ^" ' 7 $ ^ " ° abl ^ w *^ tb * princlpW 6 , fthea » soolatlon to w hich he belonged tMdl said , aV SST ^^^ HtaWl . jmt ^ *^» t in the question , tuey had met to dimss , as it «* SS T * T lWEiR fwi «« 8 ot » »•» taaoceat . andth » S ? ti * ' * . y " * " iecl ^» y *• » wt of a » eri « i ! if » Tf W " Mkla 8 men . Mr Uobion thea eatered in 0 a b ^ f but eloquent sketehof tbe principle * ot the Nations * 'Jrftde . ' Associatlon . iAdof the gr « ti » - Vomnceand wjjwriarityof oHatlp » alunlou ofttad * StvdS ? 0 U > W Unl ° ( H " * * 4 for this dUtrict was reappoinu ^ with the thank * ot «• meeting tor pan Mrvioei .

      . 1 . L e ' amUlw !*»« ht . etxianineieirs » ub » ctlbe tt « the Men . Star , said he t » d wad Mr Sew : oa' « » pe «*» » nd Ua . d taken ihe advice tW » offered , smd ha now c » m « lorwordwith fi » e * hilUngs . far the fund . Mr Hull U >«» broaphea a plan of a co-operative store , ta which m «» M » oma £ 5 , 000 might bo easily pbtaiued , without the eip «»' iltursofa single farthing eioeptlug what they usutM pant for their own . wd , fs . ui « y ' cotunmntton . li- ° cheers . ) . Thanks having bean duly voted by aocUmatlou to tM chairman , the meeting ccparated .

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      « re « , waymaricet , iuth « City of Westminster , ^ Ofoce , in tho mmw Street and Parish , for the V * wifitor , FE . VRGUS O'CONNOB . X , and publish hi Wijaumi nim-nt , of , No . I * ChaVles ^ treet , Bt « n-. . aon-str ^ ct , Wttayurth , in the parish oi St . M « ry , »«*' ^ . ington , In the Couuty of SurKa , Rt ' tiwOEice , S * . 16 « Great Wlndmi U ^ trocVIIaS ^ iinhe City effi ^ ¦ nutts ^ er , . ' i , ^ B ) R 8 atura . iy- « prU 170 i ' , lM 7 . & ¦ ' *(' .:. & *'

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      Nobthakptoh . —k public w-. tinp wa < hela hero 00 M « nday evening , at 7 oVlai-k , cal ! e . < by ih * - M « vov , on a requifition signed by forty Jti ! iahU : uit-h (; ns « h <> W .. Ts , including ceveral of the town o unirillor :, in tho Geii' ! - ball . The Mayor belnc uuavniflbb ' y whw-nt , Mr Jo ^ i-ii Surney was called to the chair , « h < . com-enwd the j ,. ' : i . ceedingg by calling on Mr John St . nt . m . one of the town councilors , to more the first muloHnn . an follows : — "Thatit ig the opinion » f this mi-erin ? , that ibei-nUand taxpayingcUases in the Rvform and ft | ri « tr ! . tion Acts

      art unjiut , . vexatious , nimecegsary . ' nn . l upprcssive , ^ iirl opposed to tha progreMivc spirit of the »?* , and th :. t they should be repealed forthwith . '' Second ^ bv Mr Wm . vron . 1 ay . Mr George Eass movs . 1 , th « t " rent " Aouta be Incluaea with the rate and taxpaying clause . Mr John Barker gecondeJ the amendment , whereouon » fr Stanton incladed the am , Hdmcm witli his rcfiolutinu which was adopts . Tlio nev Thomas P ' . ilUp moved the adoption of th « petition , which wss seconded bv Mi tarmer . and adopted . A vote of thunks to the chuii--mm concluded the proceedines .

      Thi BrnxDoo asdihb Fo \ . —On . Snuilay se'nnirht aonnowwcident withado , ; Jir . da fox occurred tit Uinlbrook , m this county , whicli shows tuat Of vnard , when hard pressed , can fi-ht at close quarter * as well as show his prowess in tha tair and opet- fHd . After Mr Cowling , of the Greencnil farm , had jiro-6 eeded to church , the boy left at home iirocteded , in contravention of positive ciders , to loosen the bulldog , to etyoy with him the luxury » i a forbidtku gambol . No sooner did tlw do * find hiraself « t liberty , than he began to sniff tlieair . and forihwiih plunged into a hollow tree behind tho stack-yard , in which the Bounds of a desperate struggle were speedily heard . An hour passed , and no dog reaking its reappearance , the boy tailed in some men to hU

      counsel , and on plying the 6 pudis and pickaxo at tin ? foot of the tree , the dog , qnite dead , a fox , and a brace anda half of young cubs , were brought lo light . It appeared that Reypard , tar-uah she had ofteu been accustomed to trust to her speed raiheiMhau u « r teeth and talons , had boldly turned upon the invader of ha domegtio castle , and ic spite of all the strength !^ fe ^ ofh i 8 bre ^' ba { lt : o ! ' l " l » iw inthtt ! jV She was herself , how ever , so much injured SL * ar !?»? M m the 8 t . S 8 ie ihat . she died ( soon fKeinS ^ a T *** " a » sportsman in SSBWu ' k'f ? 11801 ^ P ! acB ( i « ndw « £ . ? k * bltch Wwfi'n g ^ Mr Smee , ot Burapstead who , aa a carefol stepuioUier , i 8 re-irina many auallanfcrun in W iteM . -ffi

      Rus 8 UHWHB « . Corres o !) tIoilcctVomSt . Pctcrt . burgh ofthe 28 th ult . refers h > ihe ' perfii I «; of wheat m the markets of the Russian bapfi There was on hand a superfluity oi » u » plv V , h ' ciesttoIoad 900 . orl , MQYes 5 els . ?

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      MEETING AT TUB H , \ LL , WAtERLOO-ROAD At' important msetiiv . » . of the South London Engin-ers > vaa he ;< l »;¦ SaMaday evenings April the 10 th , in thoTeinpermice Hall ,., ^ aterloo-foad , wilioh was dans ly crowdi'd on the owjisiiin . Mr 1 Ikpj ? ui . l wax imwiimously called to the chair , « ud bcipgy o * j < . He ( l tin : i . vnc- 'edin ' i'i .

      M > Mii . vr \ ai > , rV . e dUn-io ' . seyretary , related the civciuwniici ; ofihti onnvuHiDimfniau of the Newton I'Hi ! , .-.-:. , !>>¦ ; - , <• fx « rti ( iti of Mr W . P . Roberts , the u-i (! :: r . ! , i ! ()} cm- i ' tiuisiiu-iff' of vim twonty-six con-• i-ini ' . ore . Th . ' ij-mclu' - ' un committee hadrecomucit ' i'd that tho chsc should be bcouuht before the C r . irt . !« Queen ' s lteueh . und that in order to . raise the iu-cc »« ary iuitds tor that purpose , tho contribution ¦> f s-x-eix-. e { iftr -Ai . vk per mini slwHikl oe continued for six w . - . eks l < . > n » ur , and he ( Mr M * lwar < i ) trusted Miis ivrHMiiiu-tiil . it-,- !!! u ' -uld bo adopted , and thut . th '' : ; - !; : i ; -ra ! : Vis hi ( i ! , h !) - « ¦ wlw had uut previously > ' ;! : si . ! , ! j ( ti-, vou ; il ' . iinvi «> viu uios ' upati'ioti ' ci in their . iu ! i , wiij > tioris ; , ; ni csi-riioiis ' for their suB ' aring feliow-; ut : i ( Load tiici r « . )

      _ Mv LiUlet saiil h f iliuir oppressed ' brethren , su' -li iKAlccmiriuM . ought to suffuae with shame the i ' l : \ : ek 3 of li ' tosc dogoiv iato en ^ iue evs vfha had be en so icmis 3 in 5 lu-. ii * < lu :. y ¦« aot yet to have subscribed their mito to uphold Iho interest and welfare of the tiado by u-hiuii thev iivtd . ( Loud cheers . ) Ho had uiuuh pita ^ ui'i 1 iu moving the following resolution : — Tbnt » ach mnii :: i t . j « tr .-nie bp requested to subscribe fc !« Vn ' ' . ni ' e per week » r tiso tinnulng six weeks in order to lu-in-i thoca ^ e of our pftrscnutod brethren c £ Warrlagton liif-jro en uiipn-juciiceil ' jury of the Court of Queba ' a B-jnch . v • . - • ¦ ' ¦

      Mi * Bkkok seconded ihe motion . '' . ; ¦ Mr UiNpwnt , in supporting it , said among the many privileges handed down to us by our forefathers was that , ot the vlght oi public mcetffigs , of which lie knew jionc of - more importance —( Hear , hear , ) to meet , to speak , to give uttcraaee to . - thtir iree tlu . ujjhts , either as regards a Piioc * Mstternioh , ad Emperor < if Rnssin , ot a tyrant - -employer . ( Loud , cheers , ) lie was glad they ao highly , appreciated this , privilege as to attend in such large numbere . Whsa tluy met in their hall last , it was to protest against the ignorance , i'rwg : inceanaonuresave conduot o £ a

      beucliol uiagisttfttfis , c imposed oi cotton and won lords . ( Hear , i-. e « r . ) Now , they had to complain . of tue act of a prvjuiliced jury v a set of men who , from their htatwu in society hsirW be fairly presnodd to nave an interest m keeping the men down .. He I irus . eu that if , would not be sixpence a week that would , prevent us raking ti » b case before the Court of Queen ' s Bench , ( loud cheers . ) Some-tew might tuilik it wrong t- » spend money in law . j hut for his part he did noi know how they could more profitably spend it than V . y ^ 'holding their just rights and pri . yileges . ) ( Much , appuiuso , ^ Mt Hiwlley rcsu » e , d his seat amidst yi . uracted eheewnb .

      . Mr Wm . Nbwiosidsi ) amidst considerable eheorlnj , anlsi . id hetlrit ^ ht tUa proceedings of Messrs Jones an « Piitts adjust twenty-aix working meu , I merited all the obloijuy antl opprobrium that could be thrown on it Ai the time they commenced their V erseoution , they would not have formed any idea that the oasc would liavti baon taken up by their lellow-workmcu w ihe svarmand onergetiomnnner it had been ( tear , hear , ) bufthnuta to meetings like those , witheuihutiaiira , huohai he had witnessed tU \ s ewning they hadlwu enabled to stay the hands of preju . il « etl jniQiB , aii-A-tUe perscoutiou of wjiwtand

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), April 17, 1847, page 8, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1414/page/8/