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The Lord-Advocate would state on Wednesday what course he should pursue . In answer to a question from Captain Rous , Mr . G . W . Hope said that Captain Fitzroy had been superseded in the government of New Zealand , but not on any grounds connected with the charges made against Mm by the New Zealand Company , or at all affecting his personal character or honour . Mr . Escon gave notice that it was his intention to-morrow to move that the house be called over on Thursday , the 22 nd inst .
THE MAT . VOOTH BILL . Sir R . Peel moved that the report on the Mavnooth College Bill be brought up . On the question that the amendments be now read a second time , Mr . S . Crawford said , that having presented several petitions against the bill , and being opposed to its spirit and policy , he felt he was called upon to state the reasons why he and those whose petitions he had placed upon the table objected to the measure of the Government . He must admit the bill had been accompanied by other measures of the government which he thought would in Ireland be accompanied by manifest advantage to the people of that country . He had always been a decided friend to the
voluntary system for the maintenance of the clergy of each persuasion , and he confessed he foresaw that this grant must entail on the government the necessity of making similarly enlarged endowments for the various Protestant Dissenting clergymen and their seminaries . This would create new ties between these persuasions and the State , each becoming pro tanto a State religion . Tins must invade the purity of their doctrine , and render their clergy too subservient to temporal interests . Nothing should be permitted to interfere between man and his Creator . To require a man who had a creed of his own and a clergy to support to contribute to the maintenance of any other clergy , from whose tenets he differed , was to impose a penalty upon him for his conscience sake ,
and in this way the conscience of a man might be warped and unjustly influenced . At this moment the Dissenterswere actively invading the Established Church , and it was painful to see how the Established Church was breaking down the authority of that great national institution . Neither the regular Established Church here nor that in Ireland could join in any avowal of what they regarded to be the fundamental principles of the Protestant religion . "What could be a greater disgrace to a religion that to witness the petitions which had been presented in that house , calling upon such an heterogeneous assembly to decide upon wli . it should be the tenets and what the liturgy of the Established Church ! ( Hear . ) The house was composed of all descriptions of religious
professors , not as formerly , when all were necessarily bound to be of the Protestant faith and doctrine . He could not help asking the hon . baronet the member for Oxford University how a man of his high Church principles could reconcile himself to solicit such a House of Commons as he had described to settle religious observances and to define what ought to be his creed . He thought he could trace much of the present schism in the Established Church to the political connection of the Church with the State . If churches were to be supported by the State , full accommodation ought to be provided for all classes ; but no adequate provision was made in the churches at present endowed or established for the instruction of the poorer classes
On looking . it the records of history since the period of the reformation , it would be found that the clergy of the Statechurches had acted against the civil rights of the people . He considered all State establishments to be founded in violation of the rights of conscience , ealculatedtopreventthediffusionoftruth , hostiletofaith , andunjustandimpolitic ; andhe was , therefore , opposed to all State endowments , and to the connection between Church and State . He thought a bill ought to be passed , enacting that all the proceeds arising from tithes and other ecclesiastical property should be paid into the Consolidated Fund and vested m the hands of commissioners , to be by them distributed for the general benefit of religious sects , in such manner as Parliament should direct . He
would , however , protect those who were at present in possession of the emoluments arising from benefices . The sole ground of his opposition to the Maynooth grant was his adherence to the voluntary principle , which he had always advocated ; and as an enemy to any grants for sustaining religious esta blishments he was anxious that no new grant should be given to any religious body either in England or in Ireland . He believed there was at present a disposition amongst the leaders on the other side of the channel to deal unfairly with the English people in reference to this subject . Some portions of tlie English people might entertain a hostile disposition towards their Roman Catholic fellow-subjects ; but by far the greater portion of those who opposed the grant did so on the principle of opposition to State endowments , and from a fear that a grant for the education of Irish priests would be extended to large and more important objects . He considered religious
monopoly to be a great grievance . He wished to see all sects placed on an equality , and that no provision whatever should be made by the State for any sect ; but that all religions should be supported on the voluntary system ; and entertaining these views he should move as an amendment , " That any provision fortlie separate or exclusive education of any particular religious denomination , or for the support or endowment of any religious sect or sects by State grants , or funds raised by compulsory assessment , whether under the name of tithes , rents , cesses , taxes , regium donum , or under any other name or form whatever , is a violation of the rights of conscience , detrimental to religious truth , and dangerous to civil and religious freedom ; and that all such establishments , grants , or endowments now in existence in the United Kingdom ought to be discontinued with as little delay as may be consistent with a due regard to the rights of those who have life interests m the same . "
Mr . Hixdlet seconded the amendment . Mr . "Williams observed that the proposition of Mr . S . Crawford was of so extensive a character , that it ought to have been brought forward as a substantive motion , and not as an amendment to another bill . Had Mr . S . Crawford confined his amendment to the first clause of it , he could have supported it ; but the second clause of it embraced too much , and therefore he must oppose it altogether . He then called the attention of the house to the vast amount of public money which had been expended of late years on the Established Church of England . A million and a half had been spent in tkeereetionof new churches ; another minion had been first lent , and afterwards given to the clergy in Ireland for tho arrear of tithe
due to them ; £ 400 , 000 had been voted to the clergy in the colonies , and of this sum £ 11 , 600 a year was to the clergy of all denominations in Canada . Now he wished to know why Sir R . Inglis did not oppose the grant of £ 1 , 000 a year to the Roman Catholic Bishop of Quebec , and the grant of £ 700 a vear to the Roman Catholic Bishop of Newfoundland " , if he were consistent in his own religious principles ? S ^ ly ^ , c ? uld ™ £ ** Possible that Sir R . Inglis withheld his opposition from that grant of £ 11 , 600 a year , because nearly £ 10 , 000 of it went to the support ola Protestant bishop and his subordinate clergy in that country . When vast sums to this amount were expended on the Church of England at home and abroad , Sir R . Inglis ought to have seen the policy of not drawing the string too tight with respect to the clergy of other churches . "When Sir R . Inglisopposed
thus strenuously the grant of £ 17 , 000 a year to the College of Maynooth , he necessarily called the attention oi the Dissenters to the large sums paid to the Church of England . Last year there was a vote of £ 13 , S 00 for the colleges of Scotland , and of £ 2 , 700 a y ear for tliree academies in Ireland ; and in all these institutions provision was made for the payment of salaries to professors of divinity . Against all these grants he ( Mr . Williams ) had regularly voted at the time when they were proposed . But they were passed in spite of his opposition ; and he now supported this bill on principles of equity and justice . We had taxed the people of Ireland for our ecclesiastical purposes ; and it was most unjust in us to refuse to the people of Ireland this very small and paltry grant for the education of their ecclesiastics at the College of Maynooth .
Sir R Isg lis replied to the pointed appeal made to nun by the last speaker . He had been asked how he could defend the imposition of a tax on the people of England for the support oftlie clergvofanv sect ? He replied at once that he did not , and that ne could not , defend the imposition of a tax upon the peopieof England for the support of any sect ; but he held that the Church of England was not a sect ; that it had aright , both at home and abroad , to be maintained by the State ; and that no sect had any such right . He insisted that he was justified in supporting the payment of £ 1000 a year to the Roman Catholic Bish
op of Quebec , inasmuch as we had taken possession of Canada eighty years ago under a treaty , by which we bound ourselves to maintain the Roman Catholic religion in that country . He could not disturb a solemn treaty made eighty veart ago ; but , on the other hand , he could not consent to make now , for the first time , an endowment of the Roman Catholic religion in her Majesty ' s dominions at home . He then proceeded to show the fallacy and danger of the voluntary principle , and to oppose the abstract proposition brought forward by Mr . S . Crawford .
Dr . Bowhisg said , that the argument used by Sir R . Inglis resolved itself into this : — "Truth I am , truth I represent ; error is around me on every side . I will pay all who will follow me as the truth , and I will pay no one else . " After ridiculing this notion , he proceeded to observe that he could not support the abstract proposition of Mr . S . Crawford , because it was meant to impede the grant to the College of Maynooth . Though he was acting in opposition to the . wishes of many of his constituents , he must support this bill , because it was a step in the right direction , and the commencement . of a new course of conciliatory legislation towards Ireland . . Colonel Johnson regretted that Mr . S . Crawford had so worded his motion that he could not support it . His objection to this grant to the College of Maynooth rested upon the source from which it came : if . it were double its amount , and were taken
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! i ¦ ¦ ¦ . - from the ecclesiastical property of Ireland , he should give it his most cordial assent . Mr . Hume read the preambles of the Irish Act the 40 th of George III ., and of the Imperial Act the 48 th of the same reign , for the purpose of showin " that the College of Maynooth was instituted for the education of persons professing the Roman Catholic religion , and not for that of the priests of that religion exclusively ; and then asked Sir R . Peel whether he intended to confine by this bill the education of the College of Maynooth to the Roman Catholic priesthood , or to extend it to Roman Catholics Generally He looked vvpon this increased g rant to Maynooth as a grant to an educational institution , and not as an 1 ?!! te" 5 ? SSMP !"" P M ! Church . Ho n . orted the bill with
p great satisfaction ; for he was a Iriend to education , and was ready to afford it to Chratuufiof every denomination , lie then attacked the Dissenting body for the opposition which it had given to this measure , and expressed his regret that those who had obtained their own emancipation from the fetters of the Test and Corporation Acts by the petitions and exertions of the Roman Catholics , should now turn round against them , should assail them with the utmost virulence , and should use every influence in their power to prevent them from receiving an act of justice . Sir R . Peel observed that there was nothing either in thcTormer Acts , or in the present Act , which imposed on the State the necessity of providin" education at Maynooth for the Roman Catholic priesthood exclusively . If the State had provided education for tiie priesthood exclusively , the Roman Catholic bod y was not responsible for that exclusion . The Legislature , when it passed the first Act on tills
subject , insisted that the College should be for the education of persons professing the Roman Catholic religion only , not of the Roman Catholic priesthood exclusively . Those who had the management of the College on its first opening attached in consequence a lay school to it , but that school was afterwards repressed at the request of the Government . Ever since that time Maynooth had been practically a school for the education of the priesthood , and in all probability would continue to be so . He then read an extract from a letter written by Mr . Burke in 177 $ for the purpose of showing that Mr . Burke , at whose advice the College of Maynooth was founded , was in favour of educating the Roman Catholic ecclesiastics apart from the lay members of that religion . He concluded by stating that , if it were desirable to combine lay with spiritual education at Maynooth , there was nothing in this Act to prevent it , but that he should be deceiving the house if he led it to believe that any intention was entertained at present soto
combine it . Mr . HixDLEr defended the Dissenting body from the attack made upon it by Mr . Hume . He denied that the Disssenters had acted with ingratitude towards the Roman Catholics of Ireland . If the Roman Catholics of Ireland had assisted the Dissenters of England to obtain the repeal of the Test and Corporation Acts , the Dissenters , in return , had assisted the Roman Catholics to obtain the repeal of the penal laws . He then entered into an elaborate defence of the voluntary principle , and observed that , though , if Mr . S . Crawford and himself were appointed tellers , they might only find Mr . T . Duncombe along with them in the lobby , that would not prevent him from dividing in favour of a principle which he felt in his conscience to be correct , and which he expected to see triumphant before the lapse of many years .
The house then divided , when there appeared—For the amendment 2 Against it ... 141 Majority against it 139 The report was then brought up and agreed to . Mr . Corry moved the order of the day for tlie house resolving itself into a committee of supply . Before the Speaker left the chair , Lord Paluersion asked Sir R . Peel whether he was prepared to lay on the table the award made by Prussia on the affair of Portendic , and the different papers connected with that subject ? SirR . Peel observed that he should be prepared , at an early period , to lay upon the table the official documents connected with that subject . There ^ yas , however , a correspondence still going on upon it . He expected , however , to be able to lay it on the table shortly after the recess .
After a conversation , which passed between Capt . Pechell and Sir G . Cockburn , relative to the reappointment of Lieutenant Bridge , of the Cormorant , who , in consequence of the sentence of a courtmartial , had been' dismissed the service for using disrespectful language towards ono of our Vice-Consuls in South America , " the house resolved itself into committee . In the committee , on the proposal of a grant of £ 610 , 545 , for the purposes of defraying the charge of purchasing provisions and victualling stores for the seamen and marines to be employed during the next year , a lively discussion sprang up between Lord Palmerston and Sir R . Peel respecting the illegal detention of a negro slave at Surinam , in consequence of an incorrect opinion of the law officer of the Crown at Surinam . It was terminated by Sir R . Peel promising that the case of the negro should undergo
reconsideration , and that he should not be damnified by anything which had hitherto occurred . The discussion also extended to the best mode of checking the slave-trade in Cuba and Brazil , and of putting it down on the coast of Africa by a combined effort on the part of France and England to destroy the barracoons , which appeared both to Lord Pahnerston and Sir R . Peel a very desirable measure . The committee then proceeded , upon the same grant , to discuss almost every imaginable topic connected with the navy , but more particularly the best mode of manning our ships , and of providing for the defence of our coast in case of a war . The principal speakers were Sir G . Cockburn , Sir C . Napier , Captain Berkeley , Captain Pechell , Mr . C . Wood , Mr . Sydney Herbert , and Admiral Bowles . The vote was at leneth agreed to . The Chairman then reported prom-ess .
lhe house resumed , and shortly afterwards adjourned . Tuesday , May 6 . There being no " grievances" to "redress , " no " wrongs" to "right , " and the people being everywhere " happy" and "contented , " the representatives of the "Commons" determined to have a holiday ' this evening ; and therefore there was " no house ! Could not the people improve on the hint , and vote "the house" a nuisance altogether ? If we can do without" the house " for one night , could we not do without it for the three hundred and sixty-five nights of the year ? What if we try ? Our senators seem to like holidays : suppose the people relieve them of their " duties" altogether ? Wednesday , May 17 . exculpation of jib . mazzini fhom 8 ie james GRAHAM ' S CHARGES .
On tlie order of the day for the second reading of the Poor Law Amendment ( Scotland ) Bill , Mr . Bodvebie ( who was indistinctl y heard in the gallery ) said , between five and six weeks ago a motion was submitted to that house relative to the opening of letters addressed to persons in this country , and the communication of their contents to forei gn powers . In the debate on that subject , the right hon . Home Secretary ( Sir J . Graham ) , in his defence of the Government ^ made charges against Mr . Mazzini , and threw imputations upon the character of that person which he then endeavoured to substantiate , and which he had not since withdrawn .
The charge made by the right hon . gentleman against the individual to whom he alluded ought , as he conceived , under no circumstances to have been made , unless it could be substantiated . The privileges of this house protected a member making such a charge from the responsibility attaching to similar conduct in any other place ; and he therefore thought that no imaginable circumstances could justify any hon . member in making imputations of so serious a nature upon the character of any individual . By a mere fiction , it was supposed that a charge or slandev of that kind made in this house was not . published ; and yet the very next morning thousands of newspapers circulated the slander in
every part of this country —he might say , almost throughout every part of the world ; and in the present case the imputation was stamped with the authority of one of the Secretaries of State , —it was made current by the Minister of Justice of this kingdom . He ( Mr . Bouverie ) regarded this subject totally irrespective of the evidence by which the charge was attempted to he substantiated ; and he maintained that no member of that house was authorized , in common justice and fairness in making such a charge as that made by the richt hon gentleman ( Sir J . Graham ) against Mr . Mazzini , ora Jnsi anyperson whatsoever . But with reference to the wounds on which this charge rested , the o % evidence Succd by the right hon . baronet n-as an anonymous statement ^ ISl f ^ ri w 5 ? # . I ' Oman's
"• miscd that lie would subsequentl y substanc e h is ta c ' ment by papers , which should be delivered to members of that house . That promise was made six ™ ekB aco and the only papers he ( Mr . Bouverie ) had sin e reeZd on this subject were those he now held in his hand in which there w not a single iota of evidence to substantiate the right honourable baronet ' s charire He thought , therefore , that right honourable gentleman would only act handsomely and fairly if he w "S ew Ins charge against Mr . Mazzini . He ( Mr . BouveS had ^ acquaintance nitli Mr . Mazzini ; he was notice that he had ever seen that individual . But there were certain great principles of justice which every one outTt 1 SS ? . » S * —» . «•**¦*> . however ' mean £
mm ( Mr . Bouverie ) had been told , since he came down i 0 the house , that a foreign Government had commnSS tS an hon . friend of his , a member of that house , So wig not now present , that they had carefully investigated the charge made by the right hon . barouet against Mr Mazzini , and that it was not substantiated by a tittle of endence . He hoped , under these drcumstanc . that the right hon . gentleman was prepared to S draw the charge . ° vnihm Sir J G » AHA * .-Thehon . menil ) er who has jut sat down gave me noticeyesterday of his intention to mention
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this subject . It does so happen , that if the hon . gentleman bad not put tins question , it would have been my duty , had there been " a house" yesterday , to make a statement upon this subject . On Monday last the hon . member for Kilraarnock ( Mr . Bouverie ) , and the hon . member for Finsbury ( Mr . T . Buncombe ) , communicated with me , in writing , with reference to this matter ; and I informed them—what was then strictly true—that I was not at that time in a condition to make a statement which would be satisfactory to them or to Mr . Mazzini . In consequenpe of the question of the hon . member for Bolton ( Dr . Bowring ) , I thought it my duty , from regard to trut ] i and to justice , to institute—through my noble friend the Foreign Secretary ( the Earl of Aberdeen )—an inquiry in the quarter where 1 thought I was most likely to obtain
accurate information with reference to this subject . Until yesterday , the information I received , bo far from shaking my impression upon this matter , tended rather to confirm it . But , not satisfied with the quarters in which those inquiries had been directed , I was particularly anxious that the judge who presided at the trial at Itodcz , and the public prosecutor on that occasion , should be consulted ; and at my request those persons were written to . Until two o ' clock yesterday I did not receive an answer to those inquiries ; and , as I have before stated , if there had been " a house" yesterday , it certainly was my intention voluntarily to have made the statement which it is now my duty to make in answer to the question of the hon . member for Kilmarnock . The hon . gentleman has referred to what occurred when 1 made the
original statement in my place in this house ; and those hon . gentlenien now present who did me the honour of listening to what fell from me on that occasion will vemeinber that , when I came to that part of my statement wliich related to the conduct of Mr . Mazzini , I cited ft newspaper . I said that my information rested upon authority which was not official , and , therefore , not so well entitled to confidence as that upon which my other statements were made . 1 fixed the attention of the house upon that fact . The hon . member for Finsbury ( Mr . T . Duncombe ) , who replied to me on that occasion , mentioned a circumstance with which , till I heard it from him , I was wholly unacquainted , that Mr . Mazzini , about the year 1840 , 1 think , brought an action against M . Gisquet , who republished tlie statement made in the Moniteur , and
that in that action Mr . Mazzini was successful . I do not , on the present occasion , mean to refer to any other matters but the particular inquiries with reference to that subject to which the hon . member for Kilmarnock has specially directed our attention . That hon . gentleman has said , that in the papers I have presented to the house there is no recognition of the statement I quoted from the Moniteur . I think the hon . gentleman has not looked very attentively at those papers , or he would have seen a letterfromSirA . Foster , our minister at Turin , written at the time , to the Secretary ¦ of State for Foreign Aft ' nirs in which there is a distinct recognition of that statement . But I will not dwell upon these facts . I . am bound " to state to the hon . member for Kiliuarnockjand to the house , that the account I received yesterday , resting upon the statements of the judge who tried Gavioli , and the public prosecutor , in answer to the
inquiries made at my request , are explicit , full , and direct , that in that trial no evidence whatever was produced which inculpates Mr . Maw . hu in the case . ( Heat , heat . ) I am bound , therefore , to state that if I had known at the time I made the original statement the facts of the trial , —much more , if I had known what was the impression of the judge and the public prosecutor , -who I conceive are the best authorities in this matter , —so far from ranking that statement , I should have religiously abstained from doing so . By the statement I then made a publie injury was inflicted on Mr . Mazzini , and therefore now , knowing the facts I have just detailed to the' house , and which were unknown to me then—I think it due to Mr . Mazzini to make the only and beet reparation in my power—which is , that the statement I have now made shall be as public as my former statement . lean only add , that I hope this explanation will be satisfactory .
Mr . T . Duncombe . —I am sure no hon . members of this house would wish any other gentleman to make an apology for , or a retraction of , anything he might have said with reference to a person out of this house , unless they were satisfied that such apology or retraction was just and necessary . , I think the right hori . Home Secretary was quite right in abstaining , until this moment , from making such a statement as that which he has just made . I think that right hon . gentleman has good reason to complain of those individuals who placed the Moniteur in his hands , for it was impossible those persons could have been ignorant at the time that the statement contained in that paper was a fabrication and a gross forgery . That was well known to parties in France ; it was * also well known to persons connected with the French Embassy
here . It is impossible they could be ignorant that there had been a public refutation of all that was stated in the Moniteur . I hold in my hand the judgment of the Tribunal Correctionnelle of Paris in April , 1841 . That document might have been obtained from Paris within a week after the statement of the right hon . baronet was made in this house ; and it ' was the duty of those persons who suggested the charge to have furnished the right hon . gentleman witlrthis document . That judgment totally acquits Mr . Mazzini of all participation in the conspiracy . The murderer of Emiliani atRodez was sentenced to perpetual imprisonment for homicide ; for , as I stated when this subject was formerly under discussion , the Court decided the offence to be homicide sans premeditation . During the
imprisonment of Gavioli he murdered his gaoler , and for tliat crime he was executed ; and this was the man who was supposed to have been the instrument of Mr . Mazzini . lam glad the right hon . baronet has made the full and satisfactory statement we have heard from him to-night . I am sure the apology ho has made will be satisfactory , not only to Mr . Mazzini , but to the other unfortunate exiles in this country . If I had not been satisfied that Mr . Mazzini was innocent of the charge , I would not have introduced the subject to the notice of this house ; for he would have been unworthy of that friendship and hospitality which he enjoys among many distinguished persons in this country had he been justly open to such an imputation .
Sir J . Graham . —The hon . member for Finsbury says this explanation is given at a late period . I am most anxious that the house should do me justice upon this point . The explanation was made at the earliest moment possible ; I have here a letter from Lord Cowley , dated the 2 nd of May ; the answer of the judge who tried Gavioli and tho . papers from the 1 ' rocurenr du Itoi , are dated the , 1 st of . May ; and I hold in my hand a letter from the Secretary of . State for Foreign Affairs ( tlie Earl of Aberdeen ) , in which he says , " The enclosed papers , received yesterday from Lord Cowley , are of a different tendency from those formerly communicated by the Prefect of Police and the Minister of the Interior . " - I did not receive them , as I before stated ,. nntil two o ' clock yesterday . '
• Mr . T . Duncombe . —I did not intend to attribute to the right hon . baronet any unnecessary delay . On the contrary , I said that , unless he was satisfied in his own mind , he was quite right in withholding this statement , He certainly could not have made it sooner . . On the motion for going into committee on the Field Gardens Bill . Mr . Roebuck moved that it be , committed that day six months , it being , in his opinion , a poor law bill in disguise . Sir J . GRAHAMhoped the hon . member for Bath would not persevere in his amendment . The bill certainly required very considerable amendments , but as . its principle appeared to be generaily approved of , he hoped it would be suffered to pass through committee pro forma , in order to have those amendments introduced . Mr . Roebuck withdrew his amendment ; the bill went into committee ; several amendments were introduced into it ; and the house resumed .
Sir J . Graham proposed the re-committal of the Physic and Surgery Bill proforma , with the view of introducing alterations which he conceived to be necessary to the success of the measure . He complained of the difficulties attending legislation on this subject—difficulties which , if he could have foreseen them at starting , might have prevented him from taking up the subject at all ; but having devoted so much attention as he had done to the subject , he was unwilling to abandon it without effecting some improvement beneficial as well to the profession as to the public . The right lion , baronet then stated at considerable length the nature of the alterations which he was prepared to carry out , and said he should not propose to proceed further with the bill until the middle of June , in the interim taking care to have printed the proposed charter which it was intended to give under the bill . If he should not succeed in this effort at a satisfactory arrangement he confessed he should despair of accomplishing the task by any future exertion .
After some further discussion the bill went throuch committee . The remaining business was then disposed of , and the house adjourned . Thursday , May 8 . Mr . Parker brought up the report of the committee upon the Scottish Central Railway Committee , to the effect that it was the opinion of the committee that the house ought not to consent to the establishment of a railway station upon the piece of ground called Soutli Inch , in the neighbourhood of Perth . The report was received with considerable cheering .
Sir C . Napier entered into an explanation of some strong expressionswhichhehadusedon a former occasion respecting the conduct of Lord Seaton towards the Bandieras . He had since received further information , and was better able to judge of the facts , and this information led him to view the conduct of that noble lord in a more favourable light than he did on that occasion ; and exonerated him ( Lord Seaton ) from much of the blame which from partial information he had attached to him .
AUSTRALIAN CORK . Mr . Hutt moved for a committee of the whole house to consider the expediency of permitting grain and flour , the produce of Australia , to be imported into the Uuited Kingdom on payment of the same amount of duty as is now levied on grain and flour , the produce of Canada . The hon . gentleman went into a series of arguments to show that Australia ought to be placed in the same position as Canada in respect to the importation of corn . A lengthy debate ensued , in which Sirwalter James , Mr . Milner Gibson , Mr . Baring , Mr . Bright , Mr . Ward and LordHowicksupported ; and Sir George Clerk , Mr Darby , Mr . Stewart Wortley , and Mr . Plumptre opposed
• w SilTff , ° ti 0 n ° ? 8 « nmd that the relaUve position of Canada and Australia were exceedingly different , and that it ^ ovrtd be inexpedient topUcefi in the . ame position with regard to . the imporiationTf corn .
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Lord Howick replied at some length , when the house divided—For the motion 93 Against it ... ... 147 Majority against it . 44 POST-OFFICE ABUSES . Mr . Dnncomhe postponed his motion on this subject for a fortnight , and the house adjourned .
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MANSION HOUSE . Saturday . — Domestic Jars — The Green-eyed iIonster , —Henry Willis , a corn-examiner , was brought ip at the instance of the overseers of Saint Botolpli Vldgate , charged with refusing to maintain his wife . — Mary Ann Willis deposed that she was married to defendant on the 22 nd day of February last . That from the promptings of a nasty jealous disposition he left her about three weeks siuce , and had not contributed to her maintenance ; she had given him no just cause for such conduct . — A solicitor , who appeared for the husband , cross-examined Mrs . Willis , relative to an alleged /< ni $ pas with a Mr , Sharplin , but without eliciting anything to bear out such a charge . —James Sharpliu deposed that he was a dock labourer , and had known complainant since last boxingday . He remembered the 2 !) th day of April Ia 3 t ; on that day Mrs . Willis had sent for him to unfasten her door for her . Something was the matter with the lock . It would not unfasten , and he forced it open . He afterwards went into the room , and put his arms around Mrs . Willis ' s neck . He had also done that which he now much regretted , and was much ashamed of . —Mrs . Willis emphatically denied the truth of Snarulin's allegation , and said he made those assertions out of malice , she having lately obtained a conviction against him at Worship-street Police Court , where he was fined 40 s . for using abusive and obscene language towards her . Sharplin , on being interrogated , admitted that he had been fined as stated by Mrs . Willis . Chalotte Donelly , a smart little girl , deposed that
Sharplin was keeping her company . She knew tlie complainant ; and knew that on the 29 th of April last , Sharplin was called out by Mrs . Willis to open her door . She thought he was much longer about it than he had any occasion to bs , and went after him to call him to tea . Sharplin was in Mrs . Willis ' s room , and Mrs . Willis was standing at the glass curling her hair . She did not see anything improper . — The Lord Mayor could not believe Sharplin ' s evidence , and should therefore call upon Willis to maintain his wife . He should order her to have 4 s . a-wcek , and if the husband did not regularly give that sum he would leave the parochial authorities to deal with him . The husband consented to this arrangement . The Lord Mayor then severely reprimanded Sharplin , who left the court amid the scorn of a crowded auditory ,
GUILDHALL . Saturday . — Curious Charge of Felony . — John Wilcox wasj charged befeve Mr . Alderman Humphries , with felony , under the following curious circumstances : —The charge wa 6 that lie had stolen a coat , value 15 s ., from his brother-in-law , while drinking in a public-house in Redcross-strcet , Barbican . They were sitting together in the house enjoying themselves , when the complainant being very hot took his coat off , and placed it in a chair . The prisoner shortly after took it up , and went out and pawned it . He ( the complainant ) now brought him up on the charge of stealing the coat . The reply of the
complainant to the charge was , that he had taken the coat , and pawned it , under the impression that if it had been left where it was , considering the state the complainant was in , it would have been stolen . He pawned it for 3 s ., intending as soon as the complain ant was sober to take it out for him . The complainant was a person of very irregular habits , and had caused his relatives much annoyance , having dissipated within the last few years a considerablesum of money , which hadbeen left him . The worthy alderman thought the explanation satisfactory , and ordered the discharge of the prisoner on the condition that he would take the coat out of pawn , and return it to its owuer .
Monday . —The person charged with stealing a large quantity of paper from Messrs . Magnay , wholesale stationers , College-hill , and the parties charged with receiving portions of it , were brought up for re-examiuation before Sir Peter Laurie . There was an array of legal gentlemen for the several prisoners ; and Sir . Clarkson and Mr . Hobler appeared for the prosecution . —Mr . Clarkson stated , that it was necessary that the cases against some of the prisoners should be taken separately , and he should restrict the evidence to-day to the charge of . stealing against John Ell , the foreman to Messrs . Magnav , and Henry Corduroy , their carman , in respect to two bundles of paper , value between six and seven guineas ; and'a charge of receiving against John Dodge , a bookbinder , residing at No . 25 , Ashley-terrace , City-road . —Tlie exainination was then adjourned till to-morrow .
QUEEN SQUARE . Saturday . —Fortune Telling Fraud Extensive Credulity . —An old Irishwoman , who pave her name Bridget Callaghan , was placed before Mr . Burrel , the sitting magistrate , on the charge of obtaining money fraudulently , by representing herself to be a fortune , teller , and able to rule " the planets . " The charge was made by a servant girl in Sloane-street , who stated that about a week ago the prisoner came to the house where she was engaged and wanted to tell her her fortune . She said she was able to tell everything respecting the future history of the complainant , if the latter would pay 5 s . The complainant consented , and brought the money ; subsequently , on the representation of the defendant that she could tell her lier fortune much more particularly , and more especially all about who her future husband
should be , if she was allowed to dream upon it at homo , which she represented to be in the neighbourhood , the complainant allowed herto go , giving her 5 s . extra for the superiorprcdiction which this arrangement was to produce , the defendant promising to call with the results of her dream next morning . Next morning arrived , but there was no Mrs . Callaghan with it . The complainant called at the place where the defendant had represented as her abode , but no such person was known there . The complainant found out that she had been regularly hoaxed . Yesterday , being out on an errand , she met with the defendant and gave her in charge . The defendant , on being interrogated respecting the charge , declared that she had never seen tlie complainant before . She was committed for a month , and the magistrate advised the complainant not to be so credulous in future .
Monday . —Attack upon a Police-Constable . —Yesterday , William Kayner , a tall powerful fellow , described as a greengrocer and cualslusd-kecper , at 53 , York-street , Westminster , was charged with violently assaulting and wounding Thomas Hickey , police-constable 120 E , with . 1 poker , and also with attempting to stab him with a knife . Complainant ' s head was bandaged , his face was much swollen and bruised , and he appeared to have received severe bodily injuries . He stated , that hcaritie cries of " murder , " he went to defendant ' s shop , and there saw defendant holding a female by the hair of the head whilst he firmly grasped a soldier , who appeared to be endeavouring to separate them . Complainant immediately parted them , and defendant went into a parlour adjoinin" - the shop , and after lifting up the female , defendant sud ° - into
ueniyrusneu tlie shop , with a poker in his hand and strnck complainant a . violent blow on the head , which telled him to the ground ; and , on endeavouring to get up defendant swore that he would murder him for cominir into his house ; and getting him down again on the ground , kicked him repeatedly , and caught hold of a knife and struck at his legs . Several constables arrived , and defendant , who was drunk at the time , was conveved to the station . Complainant ' s statement was confirmed by three or four witnesses , amongst whom was the soldier spoken of , who said he saw defendant dragging a female his wife ) about by the hah- of the head , and hitiing her He interfered : to separate them , when defendant dealt him a desperate blow 011 the forehead which rendered him almost insensible . Mr , Bond expressed his intention of committing him for trial , and remauded him .
Wednesday . —William Rayner , a greengrocer and coal-shed keeper in York-street , Westminster , who was charged , on Tuesday with a murderous attack upon a police constable in , the execution of his duty , was brought up for final examination . Mr . Bond committed him for trial at the Central Criminal Court for feloniousl y assaulting and . wounding . Mr . Dunn again . —Extraordinary Affair . —Just before the closing of the court , Mr . Dunn , the barrister , accompanied by Inspector Forbes , of the B division , and James Escot , a police-constable in plain clothes came
, before Mr . Bond . ' Mr . Sunn , addressing the magistrate , complained that he had for some time past been subjected to an annoyance of a most illegal and unwarrantable character . A close watch had been set upon his house , and wherever he went he was followed by Escot . In order to make sure that this was designedly done , he had within the last week two or three times gone out for the purpose and taken a number of short turnings , and made various stoppages , but wherever he went this person , who was a complete stranger to him , was close a t his heels . He left his house that day , and had no sooner set his foot
in the street , than the man jumped out oftlie public-house facing , and again followed him to various places , and on his coming out of a shop where he had occasion to call , there he was opposite the door . —Mr . Bond : I have nothing to do , sir , with tlie arrangements of the police . —Mr . Dunn : A man , it is true , may walk through the public streets where he likes , but if he follows another continually in this open and glaring way , the person so followed would be justified in taking , out a loaded pistol and shootiug him . —Mv . ttonu : 1 would not recommend you , sir , to carry your view of the law into effect—Mr Dunn : Have you any objection , Mr . Bond , to take my information in a case of felony ! You have jurisdiction . I charge him with following me with intent to commit a teony . —Mr . Bond repeated that the complaint must be addressed to the commissioners of police , and not to him . Mr . Dunn , therefore , left the office , but apparentl y much dissatisfied .
BOW STREET . Saturday . —Picking Pockets . —Henry Thomas was placed before Mr . Twyford , on the charge of attempting to pick pockets on Hungerford Suspension Bridge , on Thursday , the day of its opening . The prisoner was observed by a gentleman to make the attempt several times . He afterwards followed the prisoner , who was joined by three others , to Exeter Hall , where an attempt was again made on a gentleman who had been present at an Anti-Maynooth meeting . The gentleman gave an alarm to a police-officer , but the parties , apprehending danger , decamped . Next day , the gentleman being in the neighbourhood , saw the same party at work again , and managed to get him taken up by a police-constable . The prisoner wac fully committed for trial .
Dbunken University Students . — Three rather swellish youths , belonging to University College , y / in charged with being in a drunk and disorderly state in University-street , and was fined 30 s . each , or in default one month ' s imprisonment . '
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MARYLEBONE . Saturday . —Tim . Stealing . —Henry Bennett and John Wallace , two lads , were charged with robbing the till of a shop belonging to Mr . Cullen , in Ed geware-road . The evidence not going to inculpate Wallace , he was dis charged ; tlie other was remanded for a week , i » ordw that further inquiries might he made . Wednesday . — Morality of a Gentleman . _ George Wood , a gentleman residing at No . 25 , Susse ^ square , Hyde-park , attended at this court to prefer a charge against a young woman named Mary Cortoii Complainant stated that on the previous day the prisoner came to his house and rang the bell : she also created & disturbance , anil upon former occasions shehad conducted herself in a similar manner . He was at length compelled to give her into custody . —Mr . Rawlinson : Why does sh 4 do this IWhatis it all about '—Complainant : Shemnkcs ; .
a demand upon me for money . —Mr . Rawlinson : I , nilst know more about this ; in what situation does she stanj as regards you or your house ?—Complainant : She ha 3 nothing whatever to do with my house , and has no 1 om | demand upon nae . —Mv . Rawlinson : What reason d , 1 ( . s she give for calling upon you ?—Complainant : I miU |( i much rather not enter into particular details if I can lu . iD it . —Mr . Rawlinson : I mu * t know a little more of the case , however unpleasant it may be to you . —Complain ant ( after some hesitation ) : She was formerly j n " service , sir , and had a child by me ; in fact , she had two but the second I don ' t acknowledge , it ' s not mine , su « is paid through my solicitor ten shillings per weck . ~ j | ' Rawlinson ( to the prisoner ) : Why do yon go to the house
and cause this annoyance!—Prisoner : I have two children by liim , and the money I get won't enable me to koep them , and pay my rent too . —Mr . Hawlinson : Itis , iui ! e as much as you would have got , if not more , under orders of affiliation . —( To complainant ) ; Surely , sir , you'd better see if you can't come to some arrangement with this young woman , rather than expose yourself to the chance of her continuing to annoy you : recollect that you lmc made her what she is . —Complainant : I shall not think of doing more for her . —Prisoner : If you'll allow me a little more money , I'll not call on you again . —Mr . Rawlinson : I shall 110 AV let you go , but if you are brought hove any more , for annoying this gentleman , you will not ^ t off quite so easily .
MARLBOROUGH-STREET . Monday . —CnABGE of Imfanticide . —Ann Poultor w , is brought before Mr . Maltby , charged with having caused the death of a female infant , of wliich she had recently been delivered , by violence . —Diana Hugo , a charwoman , said she went to Mr . Eyland ' s , boot and shoemaker , 19 , Han way-street , where the prisoner lived as servant , about six o ' clock on Friday morning , to do some work . When shi ! was let in she went into the kitchen , and there discovered certain marks on the floors of the front and back kitchens , which induced her to suspect that some one in the house had recently been delivered of a child . She went up stairs and informed her mistress of the circum . stance , and on going down stairs again , and searcliint about , she heard the cry of an infant . On looking into the coal cellar she found a female child newly born
wrapped in a bed-gown belonging to the prisoner . After wanning the infant at the fire she went up stairs and » rtvo it 10 the prisoner , who was lying in bed , apparently too ill to get up . —Mr . Francis Odliug , surgeon , of . '¦ >(! , Oxford , street , said he was called in to see the prisoner on Frid'iy morning , about seven o ' clock . He found her in bed whn an infant , of which she had evidently very recently been delivered . About half-past nine o ' clock he called a se cotid time , and he found the infant bleeding from the mouth and nose , and with marks of violence over the eve and on the neck . When witness first saw the child lie d ' not notice any marks of violence on its botly . The child died the same day , and had been sent from the house — Mr . JIaltby asked this witness if , in li ! opinion , the inf-int had died from violence?—Mr . Odlingsaid he was decidedly of that the of violence had
opinion appearances led to the death of the child , but how the marks camo thero hi' was unable to say . —Henry Fowler , E 111 , said on Friday morning he received information that the prisoner hall given birth to a child in her master's house , and that violence had been used towards the child . He went fc > 13 Hanway-strcet , and saw the child . It was bleeding at the mouth and nose , and there was a bruise on the temple , Asked the prisoner to account for the marks , anil she said she had fallen down stairs a few days before , and had hurt her side . The child died the same night , and was taken to Marylebone workhouse , to await the verdict of a coroner's jury . The inquest had not yet been holden .-. Mr Maltby directed the prisoner to be remanded for a week , and to be removed to tho infirmary , as she was evidently not in a fit state to he abroad .
Wednesday . —An Aristocratic Ruffian . —A . prt > son of military appearance , who gave the name of Walter Murray , No . i ) , Bolton-row , and who is reported to hold a commission in her Majesty ' s service , was charged before Mr . Maltby with haying knocked down , with the butt-eml of Ins riding-whip , in Hyde . park , a poor labouring man named James Magnay , living at 21 , Charles-street The complainant , a man of emaciated appearance , said he was going to St . George's hospital to carry his wife , who wa « a patient there , some clean apparel , when , as lie attempted to cross the ride in Hyde-park , with his bundle and a child m hisarins , he was nearly ridden over by the defendant To save himself from being knocked down , he nul out his arm . and his hand touched the horse ' s flank . The defendant rode on for a short distance , then turned round , ami on coming up to him , without speaking a word , fulled him to the ground with the metal end of his riding-whip . Complainant was stunned for the moment ; he , however regained his legs , and as a police constable came up at the
instant lie gave the detendant into enstodv . Julia ileal 22 , Grosvcnor-street , said , she was in llyde-vark about sii o ' clock the previous evening , waiting with others to « ee her Majesty pass . She noticed the attempt of the complainant to cross the road , and that lie put un his hand to save himself from being run over . She saw the defendant , after riding on for some yards , turn back and knock the complainant down with the handle of his whip . The little child fell into the road , but she ran forward , picked it m « , and found it had fortunatel y sustained no injurv . Tlie defendant said , as he rode past the complainant , tlie complainant kicked his horse between the hock and the fetlock , lie turned liis iiorse round immediately and asked the man wl . at lie meant by such conduct . The man mut tered something , and he then struck him with his whip , but certainly with no intention to do him any injury Mr Maltby considered the assault was wanton and aggravated , and inflicted the full penalty of £ 5 . The defendant pulled out a quantity of bank-notes , and paid the fine iimne . ( lliltCJY ,
CLERKENWELL , Saturday . — A Dexterous Pickpocket . — Wiliiani Morgan was charged with picking thepocUets of a tow . keeper , named Donovan , in Eyre-street-hill . Tho complainant was walking up the street yesterday , when th- > prisoner came up to him , and , in the coolest possiblemanner , picked his pocket of a silk handkerchief . The tiling was done so dexterously that the prosecutor was scarcely aware of it , still he felt something which extiteii his suspicion , and , turning round , he saw the prisoner with his handkerchief in his hand . Mr . Donovan made up to seize him , when the prisoner struck him a blow , wliich prostrated him to the ground . He then took to his heels . Tlie prosecutor got up , and shouted "Stop thief , " when a crowd set out in pursuit oftlie depredator . After a hunt , he took refuge in a . water closet , where he was finally captured . He was recognised by the police as an old offender . He was fully committed to lake his trial .
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HOUSE OF COJIMOXS , Fjuday , Mat 2 . On the motion that the Speaker should leave tlie chair to go into committee on the Maynooth College Bill , Mr . HoraxY contended that the measure had produced confusion throughout this portion of the kingdom , without proving at all satisfactory to Ireland " . The dissenters , although favourable to the utmost concession of civil rights to the Roman Catholics , would sooner consent to the repeal of the union than see the principle of Church endowment extended . Colonel Sibthokp also opposed the motion , expressing his doubt as to the fact of Sir Robert Peel ' s bein * a Protestant . He also charged him with havin " duped and deceived all parties . " ilr . Pluutihe objected to the bill entirely on
religious grounds , trembling for the consequences if it should pass , and intimating to tlie Government that the feeling against it would not have subsided bv the tine of the next general election . CoL Veiker also protested against the bilL ilr . Redixgios said that a large number of the Protestant gentry of Galway had expressed themselves decidedly in favour of the bill Sir R . Tzel said he had not anticipated any discussion on this stage of the bill , which , however , he was resolved to carry forward , though it was impos sible in doing so that he could be accused of precipitating it through the house . In Ireland far less opposit ion to the measure had been offered than might aave been anticipated on the part of the Protestants , while many of them had expressed themselves decidedly m its favour .
After some observations from Sir R . Inglis and Sir A . Brooke , tlie house divided , and the resolution ior the Speaker leaving the chair was carried bv a majority of 160 to 52 . The house then went into committee . On the proposal of the first clause , Sir R , Ltous proposed that the trusteeship of the College of Maynooth should be vested in the Board of Commissioners for Charitable Bequests . Sir R . Peel could not acquiesce in the proposition . The transfer would only throw suspicion on the motives of Parliament in passing the bill without any adequate advantage to counterbalance the evil . The clause was then agreed to without a division . On the second clause .
Sir J . IIaxmer moved the omission of the words which limited the trustees of Maynooth from taking any amount of real property with " which it might be desired to endow them . After considerable discussion , in which the Attorney-General for Ireland , Mr . Roebuck , Lord 3 . Manners , Sir R . Inglis , Sir R . Peel , and other hon . members took part , the amendment was negatived without a division . Mr . Stafford O'Beiex moved that the amount of real property to be held by tbe trustees should be £ 30 , 000 , instead of £ 3 , 000 . Some discussion ensued , but on a division , the amendment was negatived by a majority of 100 XQo 2 . On the 10 th . clause being proposed , Air . Law moved its omission ; but , on a division it was carried by a majority of 210 to 88 . The remaining clauses ' were then agreed to .
Sir R . Isgus moved an additional clause , to the effect that in the event of the repeal of the bDl no professor at Maynooth should be considered as havin sueh a vested right as would entitle him to compensa ton . fie clause was , however , negatived without a division . The house then resumed , and the report was ordered to be brought up on Monday . The house then adjourned . HOUSE OF COlfHOXS , Moxdat , Mat 5 . The house assembled at four o ' clock . CALL OF THE HOUSE .
Mr . Hrare said he wished to give notice of a call of the house on Friday next ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . G . Baxkes gave notice , that on the order of the day for reading ike Maynooth Bill a third time , he should move that it be read a third time that day six months . Mr . Roebbck wished to ask of the Secretary of State a question with respect to the case of Mr . Cams Wilson , who had been committed for contempt in Jersey , afterwards brought to this country , and since remanded . His wife now stated thatj since his remand in Jersey , that gentleman had been confined to a felon's cell and put on felon ' s diet ; that all communication from outside had been cut off ; that his wife was unable to sain admittance to him ;
in short , that he was now shut up from all communication with human creatures except the gaoler . He begged to know whether the right hon . baronet had received any information on this matter , and what steps he had taken ? Sir J . Graham had received a letter containing a bjr fie hon . and learned gentleman . His right hon . mend at the head of the government had received a similar one , he believed , from Mr . Cams Wilson ' s wife . Upon-the receipt of that letter , he had thought it his duty to send a copvof it to the
Iieutenant-Governor of Jersey , directing him to make inquirv into tiie accuracy of the allegations , and report to him immediately the facts of the case . ( Hear , hear . In answetto Mr . F . Maule , S m «?* ftaa ^ ) ressed a hope that he would be enabtea to read the Scotch Banking Bill a second landing tfc * a daemon should take place on the ™** % & ™ wexAj day aftermhsuntide . « p « mar ^* " *? ? * e postponement of the ffio *^ ¥ * ^ &" * !** , which was ¦^ aa ^ jss Assisi
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HOUSE OF LORDS , Fbivat , Mat 2 . fcSffir ^ wftWSi mentwhen requested to do so by the magistrates . The DukeTSisGios satf , that the confession was made to the chaplain in his spiritual capacity , and he thought the rev . gentleman had exercised a inse discretion in refusing to make it public . Lord Beougham protested against the opinion that the confession of the convicted felon should be required to satisfy the public of his guilt ; and the Marquis of Normanby complained of the publication of Hocker ' a letterswhich he justly characterised as
, " disgusting and disgraceful . " Lord Penman expressed his entireacquiescence with Lord Brougham ; and , after a few words from Lord Stanley , the subiectdropped . Earl fowis moved the second reading of the bill for repealing so much of the Act of the 5 th and 6 th of Wm . IV ., as provided for the union of the sees of St . Asaph and Barigor , and for the endowment of a hishop of Manchester . The noble earl repeated all the arguments so strongly urged last session in supp ort of his proposition , contendmgthat when the bill for the union of the sees originally passed , thecurrent of feeling ran so strongl y in favour of the measure that it was hopeless to make the slightest
effort to resist it , but now he hoped that reflection would convince Parliament that the ecclesiastical commissioners were mistaken in this one point—the union of these sees . The Duke of Wellington- opposed the second reading of the bill , contending that by the provisions of the Act of the 5 th and 6 th of William IV ., every precautionwas taken that all the duties of the united bishoprics should be efficiently performed by the appointment of archdeacons and other officers to aid ine bishop in the performance of the additional duties which would be thrown upon him . The noble duke moved as an amendment that the bill should be read a second time that dav six months .
Earl Fitzwilliam , Lord Lyttelton , and the Earl of Carnarvon , severally supported the bill ; after wliich then * lordships divided , and the second reading was rejected by a majority of 129 to 97 . HOUSE OF LORDS , Moxuat , Mat 5 . On the motion for going into committee on tie Auction Duties Abolition Bill , The Duke of Richmond moved that the bill should be committed that day six months . The measure , he said , was wholly uncalled for—would be a loss of over £ 300 , 000 to the revenue , and would not give the slightest relief to the agricultural interest , which , in justice , ought to be considered in any contemplated reduction of taxation . If the measure were to be debated as one of confidence , or the contrary , in the Government , he would be prepared to vote " that , as regarded the agricultural measures of this session , he
had no confidence in the Government . Every session of Parliament witnessed new burdens flung upon the county rate , because in that the Chancellor ef the Exchequer had no interest , the whole burden being borne by the landed interest . He would wish to see half the charge of the county rates , and from 20 to 50 per cent , of the poor rates thrown upon the consolidated fund , in which case the landed proprietors would have security that the Chancellor of the Exchequer would watch over those rates , while the country gentlemen would still be sufficientiyinterested 10 watch over their administration . TheEarlofDalhousie combatted at great length the positions assumed by the noble duke . The Earl of Malmesbnry , Lord Monteagle , Lord Beaumont , and the Marquis of Jforraanby supported the amendment ; which was opposed by the Earl of Winchilseaand Lord Stanley .
Their lordships then divided , and the motion for going into committee was carried by a majority of 33 tolo . J J J The bill-then passed throush committee , as did also the Customs Duties Bill . " The remaining business was then disposed of , and their lordships adjourned .
Tuesoat , Mat 6 . The house sat for a short time , and several bills were forwarded a stage . Xodiscussionofanyinterest took place .
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_ I ublic Meeting in Manchester on tiie Trades Conference . —The meeting was held on Saturday evening last about a quarter past eight , in the Meal House , Nicholas-croft , Shude-hill . William George Chadwick was called to the chair , and called the attention of the meeting to the great object of the labourers' struggle . Mr . James Gouldin , the secretary ot the Association , then read tbe report and address from the committee appointed by the Conference , which was very well received . Mr . W . Wilson , the delegate from tho Makers-up Conference , who strongly urged the necessity of a better organisation amongst the working classes , and bore testimony to the honest aad just view of the provisional comnntteeand the delegates from the different parts of the empire , showing that all men onsrht to unite unon
tins question without regard to any party views . . Mr . rhomas Hackney , the delegate from the Hydraulic 1 ackers to the Conference , regretted the apathy of the working classes , and suggested that no blame could fairly be attached to the ' employers and tbe aristocracy while the working classes were so neglectful of their own interest . He apoko much Ta favour of short hours of labour and he possession ot tlie laud , to place the unemployed manufacturers to employment in agriculture , so as to act reciprocally . He advocated the establishment of Boards of Irade for the regulation of wages and settlement of differences , maintaining that the wages of the oporativcs would be better equalised , and kept at a maximum by such means . He spoke also of the flimsy manner of manufacturing articles of wear in
general use , and contended that the proposed Boards of Irade would cause a better material to be made . He made remarks upon the increase of commerce and the increase of poverty , caused by the misapplication of chemical and mechanical powers , and deprecated the preference given to female and infant laiF ' j * th ? PreJ ' udice of the male adult . He concluded , amidst loud applause , by recommendin" all to do their utmost to effect a better union amongst themselves and _ their employers , and cany out the objecte of the Trades Conference . A member of the SniaUware Weavers' Society approved of tlie object of Conference in giving support to any strike approved oi J » y the Executive of the United Trades , and spoke highly of applying their funds to the land ! lie also commented on the amtoeratical differences which have existed hitherto amongst ilu > working classes and union
, urged amongst all all workers . Mr . Whitworth proposed , and Mr . Mulliner seconded , thejfollowing , which was carried unanimously— "That this meetrng approves of the spirit of tk Trades Conference lately held m London , and pledges itself , by all legal means to carry out the objects of the same Mr . Henry Garstang moved , and Mr . Monks seconded , a vote of thanks , which was carried amidst much ap W to Mt . lUenard Wilson and Jfr . rhomas Hackney , the delegates , for their conduct at the Conference . A vote of thanks was also moved and seconded by the delegates to Conference , Messrs . Wilson and Hackney , to Mr . T . S . Duncombe , for his conduct at the Conference , and his honourable conduct as " Labour ' s representative in j !?; ment wn , lcnwascamed with much applause , and the meeting then broke up .
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8 THE NORTHERN STAR , May 10 1845
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