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" V ( Cunt imitd from our sevcntli page . ) ^ n&eugjvc-nature , have , in conjunction with . otJicr information , Induced your committee to believe that diplomatic correspondence , when posted in ordinary course , Incurred in this country and in the other g reat states of Europe nearly e ^ ual risk of inspection . IlowJong similar warrants continued , and when they weic&ialr / recalled , your committee have no informatJojii nor do they think it their duty to report as to sibvipractise which may have existed in reference to thisi part of the subject . " They do not think it their duly to answer this charge . But of this they are satisfied , that no such warrants or practices now exists and that public as well as private correspond ence , foreign as well as domestic , passing through tho ftflicfi in regular conrse , now enjoys complete
security ' subject only to the contingency of a Secretary of -State ' s warrant , directed for special reasons against a particular letter or letters . "Certain warrants were hiii before your committee "—these are the warrants in the time of Fox . and Lord Carmarthen ; and we are left to guess when these warrants were recalled , or whether they were in existence twenty years before the making * of the report , or . twenty hours . But what a quibble is here for we -isu in the . Lords' report what makes this seance most important . "It appears , " says the L « :=. W rttnuiittee , "to havefor along period of time , ami uii . icr many successive Administrations , been an csta 3 iL > hed practice that the foreign correspondence of forcku Ministers , passing through the General
Postoffice , should be sent to a department of the Foreignoffice before the forwarding of such coritspondenee according to its address . The Postmaster-General having had his attention called to the fact that there was no sufficient authority for the practice , has since June discontinued it altogether . " Only ' since June ! " the very time that I made my statement to the House . ( Cheers . ) Why , this report ought to put our committee to the blush when they read that paragraph . ( Hear , hear . ) It is an unworthy quibble that no such practices " now exist ; " it is most disingenuous . ( Hear . ) But what must foreign powers now think of this system of your opening their letters ? Why . suppose they should take the trouble to read what occurred in the House of Lords some years back , when , under the authority of a committee appointed by both . Houses of Parliament , the letters of persons suspected of treason were opened : AVhat happened then , in ltel . withresardtotneVenetian Ambassador
who complained of his letters being opened ? You find it on the Lords' Journals on the 12 th of Novem ber , 1 GU : — " The Lord Keeper signified to the House , - thatthe Venetian Ambassador made a complaint to the Lords of the Council , that the dispatches which were sent to him this week were opened , and . the seal of the state of Venice broken open by the Parliament , whereby he accounts himself much grieved with it , and for this-lie hath retired himself from the public affairs , as an ambassador between this kingdom and that state until he receives further commands from his masters . Then was read a paper , being a translation out of Italian , delivered frem the Venetian Ambassador . The contents was this , viz ., 'Most noble Louis , the correspondency betwixt princes there hath always been the most immediate ways of a true interest of maintaining of estates , and of continuance of commerce to the benefit and increase of the
commonwealth . To cultivate this , the most great king hath always used the most industry ; and to facilitate It , they have introduced the expedition of ambassadors to confirm it betwixt the one and the other kingdom . In this there hath been all respect rendered to all princes even in all times , not only having made the large prerogatives and liberties , and the very same ( I may say ) the very princes and patrons possessing the same dominions amongst the venm-k able and equally necessary ; and that by which we may receive letters , and send irom the proper prince , and whatsoever person , without any interruption , which is the most principal pail of an ambassador ; which practice , most noble sirs , is not the laws of our nation alone , but universal , and hath been
maintained ar . d inviolatcd of the King and the public , and of all Christian Governments , no less than amongst the most barbarous . I nevertheless cannot say bni that I have enjoyed in this great court that just respeefc , until the last letters were opened which came from France to me directed , although they were restored by my Lord Feilding and Sir Henry Vane , upon whose honour they secured me that ft was a simple error , and not willingly committed , which I believed ; yet could not persuade myself that the Government of England , so noble and generous , should have so inferior a mind as to open the letters of an ambassador , and by this means to violate the laws , and to give an example to the world so damnablc , and of so little respect towards the Minister of
the Scremssima Kespubhca , which , after so many ages , hath given a sincere testimony of aifection and esteem io this Grown . So now new experience , iritli my mortification , hath given testimony of the contrary being yesterday all the letters were opened coining from ? Venice , Antwerpe . and other countries , and the very letters writ unto me from the Serenissima Respublica , the regal seal being broken , and the commission sent from my lords being published , and many of my owa letters being taken . " The Lords thought the ambassador had very properly designated it , a " damna ' aleexample "—( cheers ) , and they agreed that satisfaction should be made to ini . and to the state of Venice , and that the action should be disavowed , " as tending to the breach of
public faith , and the law of nations . " Why , Sir , it would serve us quite right , if every one of those great powers , whose letters we have opened , were to call ibr an apoloey ; and we should be obliged to make it . I say it has been a most infamous system , and is a disgrace to England . ( Loud cheers . ) I am glad to find that it docs " not exist now , " though it only teased existing in Junelast . ( Hear , hear . ) Butnow we come rather nearer home . I stated that a roving commission was sent into the manufacturing districts in lSi 2 for "the purpose of opening letters , and I believe I stated , "for the purpose of seeing who was writing to whom . " What do the committee say about that?— "During _ tlic outbreak in the manufacturing and mining districts , which took place in Awrust / l-312 , in the week of the sreatcst anxiety , . a
clerk was sent down from the London Post-oflice , with directions , under the authority of a Secretary of State ' s warrant , to open the letters of six parties named therein , all taking a prominent part in the disturbances of that period . In the same week the the same clerk was directed , under authority of two other such warrants , to open the letters often other persons named , and a fortnight later to open the letters of one other person ; making seventeen in all . Most of the persons whose letters were ordered on this occasion to be opened were indicted , and many both indicted and convicted , before the special commission appointed to try the parties concerned in those disturbances . With one exception , these warrants were issued between the ISth . and 25 th of August , 1 S 43 , and they were all cancelled on the 14 th of October . " What
has become of that one exception I do not know ; perhaps that is in force at the present moment . But it goes on , " It is these facts , probably , that have given rise to the report of a commission or commissions having visited the manufacturing districts charged with a general authoritv to open and inspect letters . " I think it is just " probable . " ( A laugh . ) They call my statement " a report" for which there is no foundation ; a sort of vague rumour ; as if I had dreamt it—as if this was not a roving commission . Why , they do not say the clerk was sent to a particular town , but to "the manufacturing andI mining districts , " for the purpose of opening letteis . I said before , that the Right Hon . Gentleman had exercised tiiis power in an unusual manner ; and I ask the
House , can they produce , in the whole annals of this iniquitous letter-opening system , one single precedent of this species of roving commission ? ( Hear , hear . ) Can you produce any precedent of persons being sent into the manufacturing district , or any district , for the purpose of opening letters in this manner ? I believe you cannot . I believe the practice is totally illegal—sending a man down from the Postflfficc to open the letters of So-and-so , and see who is writing to whom . ( A laugh . ) What is the consequence ? They not only open the letters of these individuals , but they see to whom they arc writing elsewhere , and orders are then given * to open the letters of those persons . I am not at all satisfied that they have not been opening other people ' s letters
besides those six . Give me a committee , and I think you will find that the letters of others have been opened , arising out of this clerk ' s commission into the country . ( Hear , hear . ) It is rather vague "to open the letters of six parties named therein . " Are they letters written or received ? How are you to ascertain a man ' s handwriting if they arc letters written . Thereisgreatsimilarityin handwiting . The clerk sees a letter ; " 0 , Mr . So-and-so has written this letter and I will open it . " After reading it he finds he had made a mistake , and says , " 1 thought it came from this party that I hold a warrant for , but it has not , and I find I have read a letter which I have no right to do . " What I want to know is , is there any precedent for this system ? I believe that it is novel , and invented by the Right Hon . Baronet . The report went on , — "In the autumn of 1843 , during the disturbances which took plaee in South Wales , two clerks were sent down froni the post-oflke
into "the . disturbed districts , with directions , under authority of a warrant from the Secretary of State , one to inspect the letters of one person at a particular town , the other to inspect the letters of another personat another town : and subsequently , under authority of , a different warrant , this second clerk was sent to a third town , there to inspect the letters of a third person . In all three instances the persons whose letters were to be inspected were specifically named in the warrant . One of these warrants was in force eighteen , the other seven days . " I say this is a most dangerous power , and those persons are not Ihe proper persons to be entrusted with it ; to have a derk . seBt . down in \ that way ! ^ We ought to have some more satisfactory explanation with reference to this ; roving commission . - I come now to the last chMge , I stated that my correspondence ^ had bee * TMlatedandi ^ f letters opened . ( Hear , hear . ) Now , TipOTthHitheoonmutteeareperfecflv ^ alent . I had only been informed that my * letters going to the
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Albany had been detained for the purpose of opening . But though the committee is silent upon it , I now will prove that my letters were ordered to be detained , inspected , and opened oh the authority of the Right Hon . Baronet . ( Hear , hear , from the Opposition benches . ) Now I must say that I feel degraded in admitting this ; I think it is a degradation for any Member of the House of Commons to know and feel that he is a worthy object of suspicion to warrant the Secretary of State for the Home Department to insult him and to open his letters . ( Loud cries of Hear , hear . ) I cannot conceive a greater personal insult ( continued cheering ); or a greater insult to the constituency a man represents ( hear , hear )—a constituency large , enlightened ,
anu numerous ; tne representative , noi inenomraeu of a rotten borough . ( Cheers . ) It becomes , therefore , not only an insult to me , but a gross insult to the constituency I have the honour to represent . I I will go further ; if my correspondence is not to be free , I am not a fit representative . ( Cheers . ) And in the name of that constituency I again call on the Right Hon . Baronet to justify , if he can , the opening of my letters . I know not what story he may have trumped up to this committee of the Commons , or that committee of the Lords , but I say that he owes it to me , to this House ( cheers)—and he owes it to my constituents to tell you , and to tell them , the justifification upon which he ordered my letters to be opened . I asked him More and he talked about wv
" vapouring . " I askedhim again , and said , " Is it true ? I hardly believe it . " He said , "I must know I was asking a question which it was not consistent with his duty to answer . " Then , how stands that question between me and the Right Hon . Baronet ? If a Member in his place asks the Right Hon . Baronet whether , in the exercise of his functions , he has opened that Member ' s letters , and he finds that that Secretary of State , while he has had the meannessaye , and the baseness , to commit the act , has not had the courage to avow it . —( Great cheering . ) The SrEAKER . —Those observations appear to be of a personal nature . If the Hon . ' Member has made those observations in his place personally to the Right Hon . Gentleman opposite , the Hon . Gentleman no
doubt will be glad of the opportunity to withdraw them . Mr . Doxcombe . —Sir , I applied those observations to the Right Hon . Gentleman in his Ministerial capacity . To those observations and that language I adhere ( cheers ); so they must and shall remain . 1 say then , I must ask the committee why they have not referred to this subject ? I called on them specially to report upon this point , and made , I recollect , this charge before them in the room up stairs . They are totally and entirely silent upon it . They have not done me the samejusticc ( bad and small as that -justicc * is ) as they have done to the Polish gentleman . TJiev have not even stated that there was nothing to criminate me in the correspondence opened . But
they knew well if they had said that , it would have been a direct censure on the Right Hon . Baronet . That is the difficulty that his committee were placed in ; and I am to be sacrificed for the purpose of screening the Right Hon . Baronet . I say that this is an additional reason why another inquiry should be instituted , and I call for that inquiry , for the vindication of my own character , and in justice to my constituents . It is seldom that I have an opportunity of agreeing with the organ of the Government , commonly called the Morning Jlcrald . ( Laughter . ) But I mast , in justice to that paper , and to the editor , read to the House what I consider to be a most excellent article on the subject : —[ The article stated that any Cabinetand particularly a Whig Cabinet , was branded
, with infamy and dishonour if it opened the letters of a Member of Parliament ] This is your own organ , which sa vs of opening the letters of a Member of Parliament ' " ' that nothing short of an extreme case could possibly justify it . " That is the statement of the 3 loming Herald . " Itstainpsauy Cabinet , and more particularly a Whig Cabinet , with eternal infamy and dishonour to open the letters ot a Member of Parliament . " My letters have been opened , and from that you may draw what conclusion you think proper . ( Cheers and laughter . ) Except under the warrant of the Secretary of State , to open the letters of a Member of Parliament is not only a misdemeanour , but a breach of privilege ; beeausearesol « tion on yom'journ . al states —that it is ahigh breach of privilege for the letters
of any member ofthis House to be opened , except by the warrant of the Secretary of State . I Bay that very resolution justifies me in putting that question to the Right Hon . Baronet in reference to ray letters ; because , if he has not issued the warrant , other individuals had been guilty of a breach of privilege , and I shall certainly summon them to the bar of the House for a breach of privilege . ( Hear . ) I say we ought to have a committee to report whether it is expedient to continue this practice . If there is any doubt in the House about it , there is none out of doors . ( Ilcar , hear . ) It becomes the more necessary to have this report , because in his place in the House of Lords , the First Lord of the Admiralty ( Lord Iladr dins ton ) stated on the 25 th of June—'' Your lordships
will admit that this is a power which has not only existed in this country in all times , butit is one which must always exist in every country that has a Government at all . " So Lord Haddington say ' s there can be no Government without this power . Ho is for claiming it . There would be no Government in England without this power of forgery and fraud . I say no honest Government requires this power . I say that the safety of England does not require the protection of such means as thi 3 ; but I do maintaiu that the honour of England and of Englishmen requires the total and immediate abolition of this power . ( Cheers . ) It is with these views that I now move "that a select committee be appointed , to inquire into the mode in which letters have been detained ,
opened , and re-sealed , at the General or at any provincial Post-oflice , and also into the circumstances under which every warrant for that purpose has been issued by any Secretary of State , from the first day of January , 1 S 10 , to the present time ; tho said committee to report their opinion thereon to tho House , and also whether it is expedient that the practice should be continued ; . that the report and evidence of the secret committee of last session relative to the Post-oflice be referred to the said committee . " ( The Hon . Member sat down amidst loud cheering . ) Sir James Graham contended that he had done nothing in the execution of his public dutyW which any public servant need to be ashamed . He denied that any effort was made by the Government to
suppress the inquiry into the proceedings of the Postofiicc . He had himself declared his readiness , if released from his oath of office by his Sovereign , to disclose every order which he had issued in connection with the Post-office . He analysed the constitution of the committee which had examined into Mr . " Buncombe ' s charges , and shewed that a majority of its members consisted of his political opponents . To that committee , without reservation , he had tendered all the information which he possessed on the subject . If his conduct had been base and mean , it had been brought under their consideration . Before them , at least , ho had had the courage to state what he had done ; and BUDposing that they were prepared to acquit him of baseness or meanness , both personally
and officially , he cared not one rush if Mr . Buncombe thought fit to condemn him either upon mere suspicion , or upon information collected he knew not how , and given by persons he knew not whom . He contended that the committee had made a most satisfactory report , and that it had completely followed up the instructions of the House . A similar inquiry had also been instituted in the * House of Lords , where he had been examined as to his conduct upon oath , and both committees had acquitted him of any excess in the exercise of the prerogative of his office . Mr . Duncombe was under a gross mistake as to the abolition of what he called the " Secret-office , " at St . Martin ' s-le-grand . A secret office , connected with the Foreign Department
of the Government , had existed for more than a century in the Post-office ; and he now informed the House that it had been withdrawn from the Postoffice , and was no longer in existence , in consequence of orders that had been issued by the Foreign-office . He denied that he had fabricated or trumped up a warrant with a false date for the opening of the lettera of Mr . Mazzini ; and repeated the assertion , which he had niado on a former occasion , that Lord Aberdeen had not communicated to any foreign power any portion of that gentleman ' s correspondence which could compromise the safety of a single individual . He repelled with indignation the imputation cast by Mr . Duncombe on the present Government that it had assisted the Neapolitan Government in entrapping the Bandeiras aud their associates , and in subsequently putting them to death , and denied that either he or his noble colleague had been euiltv of
anything like treachery towards those unhappy persons . He also justified his conduct in opening the letters of certain Polish refugees , and implored the House to consider what his responsibility would have been had any attempt , which he could have prevented , been made on the life of the Emperor of Russia whilst on a visit in this country . He did not believe that any further inquiry could be productive of any advantage . The real practical question was , whether the House would revoke the power which had been given to every Secretary of State since the reign of Queen Anne , to open private letters in case ef necessity , or whether they would continue it . If they should determine to revoke it , they had the power to do so ; but if they determined to continue it , it was impossible for any Secretary of State to . exercise it with advantage to the public service , if he were called upon to declare publicly on every occasion to the House all the reasons which had induced him to
put it in force . - Mr . ' Siieil then rose and said—My observations shall be very short , and I hope very temperate . The Right Hon . Baronet has unequivocally admitted that the letters addressed to Mr . Mazzini were opened , and that the substance of the information derived from those letters was communicated to a foreign power . " The substance of the information , ' ? the report says ; and the statement of the ltightllon . Baronet is almost * more than confirmatory of that r eport ; The Right Hon . Gentleman justifies that proceeding . This is notthetime to consider whether that proceeding was just or not ; for this question is not raised by the ; present motion . = My Honl -Friend ( Mr . -T . Duncombe ) " wiU ^ have the opportunity of
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raising that question by bringing the subject before the House and the country on another ' and a-more appropriate occasion . But there stands the broad fact-rthat letters of Mr . Mazzini were opened ; that they were regularly conveyed to . him after being opened is , I believe , hot denied ; nor is it questioned that Mr . Mazzini was himself unaware that his correspondence had been disclosed . The Right Hon . Baronet says that no trap had been laid , but it might have been as well to have informed Mr . Mazzini that his letters had been opened . The decoy , if * I may use such a term , not adopted by the Right Hon , Baronet , but by the Post-office , was continued ; and the substance of the information obtained from Mr . Mazzini ' s letters was communicated to a foreign power
Ihe committee state that "the facts of the case , so far asjyour committee feel themselves at liberty to disclosetlieni , appear to be as follows . " It appears , then , there were tacts that the committee did think themselves at liberty to disclose . ( Hear , hear ) . I do not mean to say that the committee of secrecy appointed under such peculiar circumtances were not justified in using such a discretion ; but it is clear that all the facts they ascertained are not discloscd , —that though there has not been a sugyestio faki , a suppressio veri is admitted . ( Hear , hear . ) Now , I want to know why there is nothing said about the letters addressed to the Hon . Member for Finsbury . ( Cheers . ) The names of the two Poles were mentioned , the name of Mi . Mazzini was mentioned
were those the only names specified in the House of Commons ? ( Cheers . ) The member for Finsbury , the representative of a great section of this metrop olis , got up and stated in the House of Commons that his privileges as a Member of Parliament had been violated , and that his letters had been opened . ( Great cheering , from gentlemen on the Opposition side of the House principally . ) There was a statement as distinct and as specific as that which was made with respect to "Mr . Mazzini . ( Cheers . ) His name was mentioned . Why have the committee said nothing about that name ? ( Cheers . ) The statement wns repeated before the committee , who excluded Mr . Duncombe —( cheers ) , who brought'the charge . ( Loud cheering . ) Mr . Buncombe ottered to
appear before the committee to conduct his case and to prove his accusation . The committee refused , to allow him to conduct his case , and I believe to hear him . ( Cheers . ) Under these circumstances , it is a matter I think of legitimate curiosity , to know what is the justification on the part of the committee for omitting all mention of Mr . Duncombe . ( Cheers . ) How stands the fact ? When the Right Hon . Gentleman the Secretary of State for the ' Home Department was first interrogated upon the subject he refused to give any answer . He sheltered hlmscll behind his official privileges . ( Cheers . ) When the public clamour was raised , the Right Hon . Baronet at the head of the Government , who observed , who felt the heating of the public pulse , wisely came down
to the House and said that a committee should be conceded , that which was at first withheld . ( Cheers . ) A committee was granted . A great fact—the fact of ' all others the most important—the opening of the letters of a Member of Parliament , has not been reported on by that committee . ( Cheers . ) The charge was made . Now , I ask the question —( cheers)—now , I ask the question ( repeated the Right Hon . Gentleman with great vehemence , amidst loud cheers from the Hon . Gentlemen behind him)—tell me , you who answer with regard to Mr . Mazzinitell me , you who answer with respect to the Polestell me , will you answer whether you opened the lettera of Mr . Duucombe ? ( Great cheering . ) Lord Sandon rose amidst some cries oi' " Question . "
He said , —My back was turned when the Right Hon . Gentleman put his question ; will he oblige me by repeating it ? . . Mr . Sueimi ( with considerable vehemence ) . —It is not of the Noble Lord , it is of the Right Hon . Baronet , the Secretary of State for the Home Department that I ask the question , and I repeat my interrogatory . ( Loud cheers , and cries for Sir James U . raham , amidst which)—Lord Sanook resumed his seat , but the Noble Lord almost immediately rose again and proceeded to address the House , though the noise that prevailed rendered several of his observations but indistinctly audible . His Lordship said , that as far as ho could understand , tho question of the Right Hon . Gentleman had been addressed to the Right Hon . Gentleman
the Secretary of State for the Home Department . ( Cheers . ) At the same time , as the Right lion . Gentleman the Secretary of State for the Home Department did not think it consistent with his duty ( cries of Oh , oh ! from the Opposition , and uproar ) then to answer the question , ho ( Lord Sandou ) thought it then became his duty , as chairman of the secret committee that had been appointed , to make some observations . ( Continued uproar , and cries ot Oh !) He must take the opportunity of observing that Gentlemen placed in his ( Lord Sandon ' s ) position were placed in one of very peculiar . embarrassment . ( Oh !) The House by appointing a secret committee recognized the principle that there was something in the nature of the subject which required that
everything that there transpired should not be made known to the public . ( Hear , and Oh !) It was a committee of secrecy , and of course the members of it , till they were released from their obligation , could not disclose the particulars of the different cases which had come before it , nor justify fully the report which they had made . They must therefore trust to their own characters for their defence . Still he thought , that upon the very face of it , the report was neither evasive nor unsatisfactory . If Mr . Sheil were to put to him the question which he had just put to Sir J . Graham , anu if he ( Lord Sandon ) were to answer it , some other Member would rise and put another question'to him ; and he must therefore at once decline to gratify such prurient curiosity . Sir J . Graham . observed that , when he was interrogated upon this subject last year , he had refuscil
to answer any question respecting it , unless her Majesty released him from his oath of secrecy as a Privy Councillor , and the House appointed a committee to examine and report upon the whole matter . A secret committee was then appointed , in which , as lie had already mentioned , there was a majority of his political opponents . There was" no one fact which he had not laid before that committee fully and in detail ; and after such a statement on his part , no fault was found by the committee with any portion of his conduct . Hc . should now adhere to the course of proceeding which he had adopted last session , and should reply to the question of Mr . Sheil by stating that he could not consistently with his public duty answer any further interrogatory . He hoped it would be seen that there was a wide distinction between the cases of the two foreigners and the other cases which had been alluded to .
Mr . Hume commended the discretion of Sir J . Graham in not replying to the interrogatory which had been put to him . Still , he must ask who it was that made this committee a secret one ? It was Sir J . Graham himself , who had , therefore , no right to throw off his own shoulders the responsibility of his own work , lie thought at the time that the proceedings of the committee ought to have been public , and he now considered it to be advisable that the evidence which it took should be forthwith published . He confessed that he had always considered it derogatory toi the honour of England , and to the dignity of a Minister of the Crown , that he should have become in any respect a Police Minister to the Emperor of Russia .
Sir John Hasmer thoughtthnt no imputation rested at present on the character of Sir James Graham ; but he had heard with some surprise Mr . Duncombe ' s statement that his letters had been submitted to investigation by the Secretary of State . lie had no " prurient curiosity" respecting the evidence given before the set-ret committee—but it concerned lilni , as a Member of Parliament and as a citizen of a free country , that the House of Commons should examine into that charge , and should inquire if it were true ,
whether the pewer of the Secretary of State was exercised on sufficient reasons . For those reasons would contain necessary information for them whenever they came to the consider ation of a question with which they must soon deal , namely , whether it jbc desirable or not that the power of opening lottei-s should be continued to the Secretary of State . He thought that there was sufficient ground laid for a further inquiry , either by the re-appointment of the old committee , or by the appointment of a new one , and he should vote for such inquiry .
Mr . Serjeant Murphy was convinced , that notwithstanding the reasons which Sir James Graham had just given for his silence , ' the impression mado on the country by that silence would be very unsatisfactory . That impression might have been avoided had he pursued the course which was adopted some years ago , when Mr . Roebuck brought forward some very serious charges against individual members of that House . At first an objection was made to the placing Mr . Roebuck on the committee appointed to investigate those charges ; but at last he was made chairman of it , and had gained great credit for the impartiality with which he had acted . Was it , then , fair that Mr . Duncombe , whose privileges , which were the property of the public , had been violated ,
should not only have been prevented from conducting his own case , but should also have been excluded from the committee-room in which the inquiry was carried on ? Because Mr . Duncombe had not' been added to that committee , Sir . J . Graham was obliged to clothe himself in the mystery of office—a mystery which he thought would not be satisfactory to the country . Sir It . Peki . defended the report of the committee of secresy from the remarks which had been made to its discredit , and reprobated in very strong terms the proposition of Mr . Hume , that the evidence
taken uetore it should be forthwith published . He insisted that there had been no misconduct on the part of the executive Government in the exercise of this power of opening letters . If it was wrong to exercise such power at all , the fault was not with the executive Government , but with the Parliament which had thought fit to arm it with such aniinstrument : Parliament Had not intrusted the executive Government with such power haatily-or without due deliberation . That power was under the consideration of Parliament in 1735 , and the House of . Commons of that day declared that there was no ; peculiar sanctity in a Member of-Parliament ; for it-passed a
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¦^^—¦ — ¦ r — j . w . resolution that it " would not be a breach of privilege to open a letter addressed to a member it'it were done under the warrant of a Secretary of State . \ In tfio this power was exercised by Ministers as friendly to civil liberty as any which this country ever possessed . In 1837 the House was party to an Act of Parliament expressly recognizing the existence of tliis prerogative in the Secretary of State . Now , he contended that the House , seeing that it had intrusted them with such a-power , would not hold any Ministers justified who , from a feeling of cowardice , should refuse to exercise it in time either of external attack or of internal disorder . The Hon . Gentleman opposite had condemned Sir J . Graham for issuing seventeen or eighteen of these warrants
in August , 1842 ; but had Hon . Members torgotten the state of disturbance in which some parts of the country were at that period ? The ¦ Member lor Woiverhampton at that time made a motion limiting the prorogation of Parliament to sonio day in the month of October , on the express ground that the country was in danger of civil confusion . The members for Manchester and for Stockport both spoke in terms of strong alarm respecting the " dire confusion ' which then prevailed . Ministers at that-time asked for no extraordinary powers ; but what would Parliament have said to them if in that time of " dire confusion" they had displayed apathy and indifference ? Would not Parliament , in case of , danger , have held Ministers responsible for the non-exercise of ' that very nnwer which it now blamed them for exercising after
tranquillity had been restored ? All that Ministers had done in the exercise of that power , both with respect to Mr . Mazzini and Captain Stolzman , had been laid fully and without reserve before a committee in which there was a majority of their political opponents ; and that committee had fully acquitted them' of any abuse of th « at authority . In the exercise of that authority they might in critical times have made mistakes ; but what would have been their position if they had endangered the life of one man , or had compromised the safety of the nation , by shrinking from the responsibility which was imposed upon them ?• He pressed , in conclusion , upon the House the propriety of not implying suspicion of their committee , and of tho Ministers whom that committee had acquitted , by subjecting them to a second trial . . ••• ••¦
Mr . 'Warbumon justified , at considerable length , the report of the committee , of which he had been a member . In considering the . question , whether it was advisable to grant to Mr . Duncombe tho committee for which he had moved , he observed that his own opinion was , that the facts of the case had been communicated to the House as far as was consistent with the public good . Mr . Wakley observed that when the House considered what had passed on the present occasion , coupled with what had taken place when the subject was before the House during the last session , it would be admitted that his Hon . Colleague in the representation of Finsbury was placed in a most unfair position , for he had always exercised ^ his functions , as the representative of Ms constituents , in the most independent and energetic manner ; expressing his sentiments on all occasions with the
most perfect boldness , and'being thus conspicuous for the liberality of his sentiments , he was _ sought out by a foreigner , who , relying on his position as a Member of that House , placed a petition in his hands , wherein he complained that his letters had been opened at the Post-office , avid asked for redress in the form of a petition to that House . And when the Right lion . Baronet ( Sir J . Graham ) was applied to for information as to the truth of the facts alleged by one individual , the same Mr . Mazzini who had petitioned , he turned round on being questioned with respect to Stolzman , and said " if you will give me notice of the sort of information you seek , I will seo if it might not be possible for me to answer you . " A-secret ' committee was subsequently appointed to inquire into the subject and report upon it , the result of which proceeding would , he trusted , afford a lesson to the House not to act in a similar manner
on a future occasion , for the whole proceeding was merely a whitewashing of the Government . ( Hear , hear . ) The secret select committee contented itself witJi mentioning the names of one or two individuals whose , correspondence had boon violated , and then classing the whole of the other cases which came under its knowledge in a mass , each member of the committee saying that all had been disclosed by them which it was safe or prudent to do , and intimating the danger that would result if such were published . J 3 ut , his Hon . Colleague had opened a new case for tho consideration of the House . He had at first
simply presented a petition from Mr . Mazzini , complaining that his letters were opened , and pr aying for redress . The report of the committee made no allusion whatever to his Hon . Colleague . He had not been called before the committee , nor had he been allowed to conduct the case , which was the direct cause of ils boing appointed , and which ease he had brought before the notice of the House . His lion . Colleague , however , brought a fresh allegation to . the attention of the House ; . he had told the Right lion . Baronet ( Sir J . Graham ) to his face , that he charged him with having opened his letters at the Pyst-office . What did the Right Hon . Baronet say ini answer to this charge ? He had replied that he was not absolved from his oath of secresy in the
performance of his duties , and the name of the Queen had been introduced in a most extraordinary and unpijeccdentcd manner by him in order to shield him from making any disclosures of his acts . ( Hear , hear . ) This course of observation was quite new to him ( Mr . Wakley . ) He had always understood by ^ he practice of the constitution , that the responsibilities of the Sovereign rested solely upon the Ministers according to the established maxim , " the King can do no wrong , " ( Hear , hear , ) which ' meant that tho Crown could do nothing without the immediate agency , and consequently the entire responsibility of Ministers . By whose advice , therefore , was the Crown in the present case induced to absolve Minister from their oaths of sccrcsv , if it was not bv the direct counsel ot
the Right lion . Baronet himself ? ( Hear , hear . ) And upon whom rested the responsibility of that proceeding , if not upon the Right lion . Baronet ? ( Hear , hear . ) The subterfuge was ti ' most unworthy one . It was most highly improper ; it was most unconstitutional for the Minister of the Crown to throw back upon the Sovereign that responsibility which was the result of his own advice —( hear , hear)—and when his lion . Colleague repeated the charge , and had asserted iujterms not to be misunderstood that the Right Hon . Baronet had caused his letters to be opened , that Right lion . Baronet had not denied the truth of his allegation , but had left the matter entirely unanswered . The Right Hon . Baronet , the First Lord of . tho Treasury , had however come forward and made
out an affected justification of the violation of which the Right Hon . Home Secretary was accused . And what did the Right Hon . Baronet say ? Why he re minded the House that in 1842 the whole country was in a state of tumult and agitation ; that sedition and disaffection were imputed to the people ill many districts : that the Government was bound to take precautions against the machinations of ill-disposed persons ; that the threats and the agitations that were manifested , and that the menaces of the masses put in motion being then made , had rendered it most necessary that every precaution should bo adopted to discover and to prevent this agitation ; and that the Government consequently was justified in using tho power which it
possessed of opening letters for the purpose ot so discovering what was going on . Was , then , his Hon . Colleague in communication with those whose actions and secret machinations were thus apprehended by the Government to be so dangerous ? Was his Hon . Colleague , then , endeavouring to excite the masses to movo ' i ( 1-Iear , hear . ) That was the only inference which could be fairly drawn from the observations of tl ^ e Ri ght lion . Baronet —( hear , hear ); and that was the justification which he put forth in behalf of the Right Hon . - Secretary for the Home Department . ( No , no . ) He could only put that interpretation upon the language of the Right lion . Baronet . ( No , no , from the Ministerial benches . ) Yes , he put the same construction upon it that the House had clone
already . ( No , no . ) No—why , the meaning-of the Right Hon . Baronet was as plain as it could-be . If he iliil not mean that , what did he mean ? ( Hear , hear . ) Ilis Hon . political colleague always cried after a high quarry .. The Right lion . Baronet , the Secretary for the Home Department , was a favourite subject with him . Mr . Duncombe always tried thought the highest game the most attractive . He occasionally attacked the judges ; and the Right Hon . Baronet had said on a former occasion , that his Hon . colleague was justified in calling himself and other functionaries to account . Now , because his Hon colleague had so occupied himself from time to time , was he to be subject to have his letters detained and opened , a course which the Right Hon . Baronet had
stated to have been followed , under ofhcial responsibilities , which neither he ( Mr . Wakley ) nor anybody else could discover ? What was that responsibility in which the Right Hon . Baronet ' s official character was so deeply implicated ? Was the House to be told that Ministers Avere justified in opening letters , and when they vcre called upon to show the responsibility under which they did so , were they to be allowed to reply by casting on an individual Member who charg ed them with violating his correspondence , the brand of being engaged in a seditious intercourse ? ( "No , no . " ) then if this were not the ease , why had his Hon . colleague ' s letters been opened ? The Right Hon . Baronet was bound , if he denied this inference , to state to the House what the grounds were which , in
lijs opinion , justified his prying into his Hon . colleague ' s letters . And in this particular case , supposing tliat-the authority under which he claimed the power of doing so were admitted , was there anytime to justify him in the secresy " which had been practised withreapect . to the opening of the letters at the Post-office ? If the law entitled the Government to open letters , it did not say that they were to be sealed iip again , and sealed in such a manner as that no one should know they had been so opened ; But he would not go further mto the particulars of these cases Whether the power , when it ' came to be examined into , could bei maintained w not , was net now the question . ( Hear , hear . ) His Hon . colleague had stated thaf his letters had-been opened .- A Member of that House . alleged , in his place that his . letters
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had been opened by the Secretary of State for the Home Department , and the answer of that Secretary in point of fact was , he could not acknowledge the truth ofthe allegation because'he was not absolved from his oath of secresy . He ; said , that under these circumstances it was impossible for the public to be satisfied , it was impossible for the House to be satisfied and they would not do justice to their own character . —they would not be capable of fulfilling the liii'h functions that devolved on them , if they did not insist on a full and searching inquiry intothe pointed and -personal charge brought his Hon . colleague . ( Cheers . ) Mr . Roebuck rose to address the House , but Mr . Bbotiierton moved an adjournment ofthe debate till Thursday , which was put and agreed to . 1 The House adjourned at twenty minutes to one o ' clock .
Wednesday , Feb . 19 . The House met at four o'clock . The following railway bills were presented and read a first time : —The Leeds and Manchester , the York and Scarborough , the Ashton and Staleybridgc , the Manchester and Leeds ( Burnley branch ) , the Leeds and West Riding Junction , and the Richmond . _ In the cases of petitions for the following bills it was reported that the standing orders had been complied with , and the parties petitioning obtained leave to bring in their respective bilk : —The Hull and Selby Railway , the Keiidal and Wimlcrmere Railway , the Cheshire and Birkenliead Railway , the Cockcnnouth and Workington Ratiway , the Manchester and Carlisle Railway , and Leeds and Dcwsbury ' " Railway . In answer to a question from Mi * . M . Milnes ,
Sir R . Peei stated that in the beginning of last year certain Italian refugees , subjects of Austria , resided in the British possessions in the Mediterranean , and the British Government , received a strong remonstrance from the Austrian Government , complaining that these refugees were conspiring against the ¦ peace of Italy , and intimating that , if an insurrection should break out in the Papa ^ States , the Commander in Chief at Milan had received instructions to march at once for the purpose of suppressing it . In " consequence of this the Earl of Aberdeen communicated to the Austrian Government all that he knew respecting the designs of these parties , but he gave neither the names , letters , or copies of letters , or extracts of letters , from any
individuals residing within the power of the Austrian Government . With respect to the descent upon Calabria , Lord Aberdeen had communicated no information , for he had none—the event itself having taken every one by surprise . On the 12 th of June , twenty-two individuals embarked from Corfu in a small boat , without the knowledge of . the British authorities , and when the Austrian authorities asked Lord Seaton to send an armed steamer in pursuit of them , lie refused to do so , contenting himself with sending to Otranto to communicate the fact to the Neapolitan Government . Subsequently a formal complaint was made to our ambassador at Vienna , that tho British Government were affording shelter to parties concerting plots to disturb the tranquillity of Italy . This , lie thought , was sufficient to relieve
the British Government from the groundless imputations which had been thrown out against it . Mr . ' FjsitRAXD wished to put the question to the Right Hon . Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home Department of which he had given notice yesterday . He desired to know when the report of Mr . Moggeridge , who had been sent down to the midland counties for the purpose of inquiring into certain statements of distress made to the Government' by the stocking weavers , would be laid on the table ? Sir J . Graham said , it was true that Mr . Moggeridge had conducted the inquiry to which the Hon . Member referred . That inquiry was now closed ; the report had been drawn up , but had not yet reached him . When it came into his possession he should take the earliest opportunity of laying it on the table .
The House resolved itself into a committee of ways and means . After the resolution of Sir R . Peel , and Mr . Roebuck ' s amendment , which adds to it thesco words , " That the provisions of the said tax as t property should extend to Ireland , " had been read , Mr . Roebuck commenced his observations by calling on Sir Robert Peel to point out the reasonsfor the onus lay upon him—which induced him to deviate in the case of . Irclaud from the rule which governed his conduct in the case of England , Scotland , and Wales , ne had said that there was now a great exigency , and that that applied equally to England and Ireland . If that were correct , then the exigency should be met by the united means of both kingdoms . Ho therefore culled upon the
Right lion . Baronet to tax the realized capital of Ireland , as well as that of England , or else to show that the circumstances of Ireland were such as to satisfy him in deviating from his general rule , lie called also on the members of the agricultural interest of England to pluck up a little courage , 'to cease from crawling on their bellies before the Minister , and to relieve their tenants , of whose distresses they were always complaining ' , by extending this tax to the realized capital of the sister country . He appealed likewise to the members ofthe mercantile-interest for support to his proposition , on the ground that it would enable them to employ a greater amount of laboi . r , and to pay a higher rate of wages for it . Sir 11 . Peel had originally refused
to impose this tax on the land of Ireland , because he had increased the stamp duties in that country . Now , stamps being chiefly used in the transfer of property , fell heaviest ' on the middling and lower classes ; and therefore he advised him to remit the stamp duties , which fell on those classes , and to extend tho operation of a tax which would fall principally on the more opulent . At the present moment the Irish landlord was receiving great advantage from the amount of tithe recently added to his estate . He had also no assessed taxes to pay . Why , then , should he not submit to the imposition ofthe income tax ? When he proposed this' amendment on a former evening , Mr . Sheil advised him to read over Edmund Burke ' s speech on conciliation with America . He knew the idea which was passing at the moment through Mr . Shcil ' s mind—it was that of revolution ; it was that Ireland was so turbulent that it would . not submit to such a tax . He was dad to see Mr . Sheil attendins
in his place in that House ; but the other Irish Members , where were they ? They had turned tail ; they bad deserted their post , and bad pusillaninioiisly shrunk from the battle-field in that house , where they must know that their battle must be fought , because from their own personal insignificance they could not command its attention . He . adjured Sir It . Peel , the agricultural and the mercantile interests , not to sanction the extra taxation of England for the uiitaxed landlords of Ireland . He wondered how any landlord of that country could look an Englishman In the face and talk of the advantages of a property tax . It was a little too bad . He would endeavour to remedy such a state of tilings by imposing the property tax , which they deemed so advantageous , upon their shoulders : at the same time he wished it to be understood that he would exempt the income derived from the trade , commerce , and professions of that country from its operation .
Mr . Siieil observed , that as Mr . Roebuck had always expressed great solicitude for Ireland , he was almost inclined to say , "God save it from his friendship ! " After stating the reasons which had induced several Irish members to abstain from attending in their places in that house , and after declaring , amid loud cheers , that he had not felt it consistent with his duty to . follow the example of his absent friends , he addressed himself to the consideration of the different proposals of Mr , Warburton and Mr . Roebuck on the subject of the income and property tax . "Perpetuity , " cried the one ; " Universality , " cried the other . " Eternity , " -said the voice from Kcudal ; " Infinity , " retorted the yoke from Bath . But Mi-. Roebuck also called for equality of taxation for Ireland and for England .-
and as a proof of what he meant by it , he proposed to lay on England Schedule A aud Schedule D ; but on Ireland lie would only impose Schedule A , and would leave out Schedule D . His scheme of equality , therefore , fell at once to the ground . On a former occasion he ( Mr . Sheil ) had recommended Mr . Roebuck to read Burke ' s speech on Conciliation with America : on the present he would recommend hmi'to . read the speech of-the eloquent defender of the Cauadas ( Mr . Roebuck ) , in which admirable precepts were laid down for the mode in which England ought to govern that country—precepts which he wished his Learned Friend would Mow on the present occasion . In his present amendment , however , he diflcred from every Minister who had ever
proposed an income tax . Neither Pitt , nor Fox , nor Perceval , nor the Earl of Liverpool , nor that fascinating financier Sir Robert Peel , had ever proposed an income tax for Ireland . The absentees from Ireland already drained the country of large sums ; tho Cl'OWn-routs aild quit-i'ents of Ireland were also expended m the embellishment of London and oi Windsor Castle ; and Mr . Roebuck , with a knowledge of both these facts before him , proposed to exhaust it still more b \; draining from it tho amount of the income tax . lie believed it to be unjust to impose this tax on Ireland—at any rate he knew it to be impolitic . With a full recollection of the disturbance which woods halfpence created in Ireland in the time of Swift , would they arm Mr . O'Connell , a second Swift , with such an instrument of , agitation as the property tax would prove in his hands ? He " verily
Deueveo . mat Uolonel Upnolly , if such a tax were extended to Ireland , would himself turn Repealer and take a Grey Porter view ofthe state of that country . He warned them against any measure which would make Catholicism , ; Protestantism , and Presbyttmmsm coalesce against the British Government in Ireland . He would tell the House of a better mode of obtaining an increased revenue than the imposition of a property tax on Ireland . \ Saving waa an eqmyalent to gam . Introduce . better government into Ireland , and you may reduce your army . Adant your institutions to Ireland , instead of adapting Ireland to your institutions , ajid you ( wmgain perpetual peace . Peace will gam wealth ; wealth will demand k-, greater consumption of coffee , sugar ,. and other taxable ^ ommodities , and will throw open a new field for British manufactureB ; . and % , prosperity of Ire-
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land will repay , with magnificent usury , every effort you may make for her improvement . " Sir John Tybrkll made a short speech in favo ur of the amendment , which created much amusement in the committee . He repeated his complaint that the agricultural interest had not received any relief from Sir R . Peel's proposed measure of reduced tax ation ; and remarked , that it was a singular faet tha ^ gentlemen on the Opposition benches supported thja Right Hon . Bart , upon the voluntary , whilst " cntlc men on the Ministerial benches supported h ? m the . compulsory , principle . He hoped that when lw read the division list to-morrow , ho should find tliaf his agricultural friends , who complained so mud , ! $ the treatment which they received froin troveni f had not gone " about ship , " but had given Jrp votes in favour of Mr . Roebuck ' s amendment , Mr . W . AYilliams declared his intenti on < tf » ,. „
porting the amendment m a speech in which h * shewed that since the union the relative taxation of Ireland towards that of Great Britain had continn ally diminished , till now , in the last financial vcar tliP taxation levied on Ireland was only £ 4 , 097 , 000 whii . that on Great Britain amounted to £ 51 , 300 000 He then entered into a review of Sir R . Peel ' s fi ' nan cial speech , and concluded by declaring that wiies Mr . Roebuck ' s amendment was disp osed of , lift would propose another , to the effect that all persons receiv ing public money in Ireland should pay thereon the " same income tax as was levied in England , He saw no reason why the Lord-Lieutenant , tlie Lord Chancellor , and the Chief Secretary for Ireland should be exempt from a tax on their large salaries because they were paid in . Ireland , which every clerk in the public offices here was obliged to pay , ' nierelv because ho received his small pittance of the public monev in England .
Mr . Ross , Lord Bernard , and Mr . Beluj v de « fended the Irish landlords from the attacks wJiieh had been made upon them by the Hon . Member ' for Bath . A smart and somewhat angry discus ^ ensued , in the course of which the words " fa calumnies" were used by Mr . Newdigate , who on being called to order , apologised to the House . A length Sir R . Peel rose , and admitted that , although strict justice might require the extension of the tax to Ireland , yet , as there was no machinery for
its collection in that country , the creation of the machinery would be so expensive , that the Govern , incut would not bo . justified , in an economical point of view , m proposing its creation ; therefore , he con . sidercd that it would be better to accept from Ireland an equivalent for the property tax , and , comparin . the benefit which would accrue to England from the removal of the import duties with that which wotiid accrue to Ireland , the latter country would not l « justly dealt with if the property ta x were imposed on her .
The discussion was continued for some time aft ( t the Right Hon . Gentleman had sat down , Mr . Sergeant Murphy , Mr . Wallace , Colonel Sibthorp , Lord Palmcrston , and several other Hon . Members takin * part in it ; after which the Committee divided , when there appeared for the amendment 33 , against it 2 jj , The Committee then divided on the original resolution , affirming the income-tax , when there appeared for it 228 , against it 30 . The other orders of the day were then disposed $ , and the House adjourned at one o ' clock .
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BOW-STREET . Tbesdat — Inhuman Conduct or Parents . —iluttheit Tarris , a trunk-maker , and Ann , his wife , were placea j the bar , before Mr . Jardiiie , charged under the Vagi'ajj Act ( 5 th Oeo . IV ., chap . S 3 , sec . 3 ) , at the instance of & guardians ofthe Strand Union , with wilfully refusing asi neglecting to maintain their three children , bein ? a& wholly or in part so to do , in consequence of which thj ; became chaiijeable to the parish . — VLv . Cordur , clerk ioi ; guardians , said the male defendant had worked for years in the service of Jlr . Hawkins , trunk-maker in the St ' ranj , receiving twenty shillings as wages , and his wife usual ' j earned about eight shillings per week in jobbing amor . families in the neighbourhood , while the eldest son hand *! . over to them eight shillings per week , which lie received a Hungerfoi'd-market , where he was employed , and tli ; eldest girl the sum of four shillings , which * she madefy
shoe-binding . Ihe shocking condition in which they kep the younger members of the family , at lfl , New cfiurcbcourt , Strand , would be explained by gentlemen present . who discovered them in going their rounds to visit the p » r and dispense charity , and also by tho children who couli prove that they had daily experienced the same trcatuust during the last three years . —Mr . John Limbird , publiste , 143 , Strand , and a guardian , said that on Wednesday last ho wont with otliovs to New Church-court , for the jimiwst of administering charity , and on entering So . i' . l h « pro . ceeded to the cellar , where he found the female defendant ; and , after a short delay , he heard a rustling noise in a little straw collected in a corner of the apartment , amldi--covered three children huddled together in it behind a ru » , without any other covering upoii them . The day was 'firy inclement ; and , on looking closer , lie saw that * the litt ' c creatures had rags upon them which reached down merely to the hips . On questioning the woman she admitted they
were her children , uddmg that no person lnul been in iha cellar except witness and the gentleman who accompanied him , and that the children had not been out of it since the month of August last . She also said that the dooms always fastened when the lodgers went clown for ' water , and that her husband , who was far gone in a eonsuiVsjiiki , had gone t « the King ' s College Hospital , of which lie w an out-patient , for the purpose of procuring medicine and advice . As to the state in which he found the crllar . it would be impossible to give a correct description , for i ; was in a worse condition than any stable ho had ever pa : his foot in . —The male defendant said that when inquiries were made of him he told the truth to the guardians , and if his family appeared in a sta + c of destitution it \ m brought on by the intemperate habits of his wife , but he never allowed his children to want food , although ho wi ; \ i « abU to wash them , being obliged to attend to ) fis w » & —The defendants were remanded .
SOUTIIWAKK . Monday . —Dreadful Effects of Dkisk . —Elizabeth Blake , the wife of a hatter in tho Spa-road , Hormuudsej . was brought before Sir . Traill , charged with attanptini , 'to destroy sherelf by cutting her throat with a knife . Xk prisoner of late had been subject to very violent fits o passion , which were increased by habits of' inebriety . Os Saturday last she had been for ' sonic hours from ' hums , and on her return became excited , and , stiiitehing- i : pa knife , fell on her knees and drew it across her throa :. inflicting a wound . Her landlady , on observing the set immediately screamed out , and a ' t tho same time rusliei towards tho prisoner , and s . eizei . 1 her arm , which she on . deavoured to disengage , aild she was about to repeat tis atteniptupon her life , when her husband , alarmed hrthi noise , entered the room , and seeing what was goii !| t toward , tried to wrest the knife from the prisoner . ' tt '
latter , however , made every resistance that was in t « power , and repeatedly attempted to draw tho knife ajsia across her throat , and in the eftbrt made by her hastol to obtain possession of the weapon his haiids were fSf much cut . He , however , at length succeeded in wrcsanf the knife from her grasp , and as she appeared so ' iirt' ' - mined on self-destruction , he called a policeman ar . < I } s « her into custody . The injury she inflicted on ln-i-sel : «" " found on investigation not ' to be of such a danger * nature as was at first supposed . The witness added , 'i 111 the prisoner had attempted to commit suicide twice betor * while in her house ; and that witness had no doubt it was produced from her habits of intoxication , for lior huste ' was industrious , and there was no want of the comnwa necessaries of life . The prisoner ' s husband , althoa ?" aware of the situation in which his wife was placed , * not | attend , and she was accordingly committed in detw- ' of finding the required sureties .
LAMBETH . , Mondat . —Assaulting the Police . —John" Kim *' alias Wright , and Joseph Purdy , were chafed , tliewW " with violently assaulting a police-constable , ami *'" » ' £ with attempting to rescue him from the custody <* " police . From the evidence it appeared that at « W nw on Saturday night the prisoner Kenible , who : ' lwUt IW , j weeks since was charged at this court with murderin ? «« own mother , was found fighting with another person '; Lambeth-walk , whom he severely punished . On them- " ties being separated , Kemble was R . ' ™ illt 0 cu 5 ! . i , j his opponent , and on the constable taking lw'd " } . L declared he would go quietly to the station-liou ^ } .,. " constable relinquished his hold . The officer di'l «' ¦ 1 "T . ing he would do as ho had promised , but instead ot <•;¦• he attempted to make his escape , and u ' . ioii bea $ ' taken , ho commenced a desperate attack on the ciiii' ;; ble , and Purely endeavoured to rescue lrin > . Two » ;• ;; constables came up to the assistance of rtu- ' U- |« J" - ' j officer ; and Kemble , after dealing out severe pun ' "" ., to the man who secured him , kicked another in tlie . L . " savacro manner in < i < 1 plii > 9 f < . . ™ .. t .-. f' Ma hmsoii . snili .. . .
tortile" man ' s activity , would have ruined hmiW w The prisoner Kemble said , in ruplv to the Wi « i ' o ' >' ' , ( had been drinking rather freely , and was not consia" ? what he did ; and Puniv denied much of what hf ¦« : ' sworn to by the constables . Mr . Norton («< ttl ! 't-f , j ' Kemble ) observed , that one would have thoug ht tiw fact of his having been in custodv and renian > w « llB - picion of having caused the de ' ath of his own w >" ^ though he might be , and was , he thought . i ; : nocen . » i j ., dreadful crime , would have worked sonic ti iV 0 U !'" . ; change in his conduct , and taught him to know a >> ' better . The policemen had acted with great kr ;' . f ,., r , towards him . yet his conduct was both brutal and v » i j ; , and that of his companion was very little l " : ; . ;!; j should , therefore , commit them both for one tnoiiut W House of Correction with hard l .-ihour .
CLERKENWELL . „ Monday . — - Infamous Co . s-duct . — David l ) u " . ' . iy , charged with the following heartless conduct :- ' 'Jj thl'OlS weeks ago a poor girl , about IS years of aiM . f ' , Mary Beckwith , who had been a servant at the ho »^ ' gentleman in ilurton-erescent , was returnhur to ' wi ' . i ter ' s house after spending the day with some frien «» . ^ . ^ she was met by the prisoner , who induced her to with him . He drugged her with liquor , and eoavc ^ y to a lodging-house , where , under promise of » 'al' ; ° i , ; r seduced her . Next morning he endeavoureil . to il * j mind by promising marriage , but at the same time »»• ^ her he was a soldier , and wanted 23 s . to buy I ! uns . ; , j ! t j She borrowed the money from her friends for h ""> "l \ ailew days after he absconded , taking with nun . w * : ' j . taining every article of clothing the poor gin I' *"' [ 0 Jj On inquiry the prisoner , who has been at ditteW' i ' j of his life a soldier , a policeman , and a cabman . ' .,., out to be married , and his wife was in court . ''^ appeared , that when about to be apprehended '" - j '^ t out two pistols and a sword , and threatened tomuiu ^ if she dared to say anything against hhu . —* manilpd . ^*
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Office in the . same Street and ransn , «« - . g - . prietor . FEAKGUS O'CONNOR , Esq ., andpubU 3 tt Whmam Hewitt , of No . 18 , Gharies-street , Br » street , Walwortli , in the Pariah of St . Mary , * ^ j ton , in the County of Surrey , at the Offlca , ^ ^ j Strand , in the Parish of St . Mary-le-3 tr * nd j Gity of Westminster ' j Saturd » jjPebuary 22 , W *» ' j
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Northern Star (1837-1852), Feb. 22, 1845, page 8, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1303/page/8/
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