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tl LANCASTER ASSIZES . ( Continued from our seventh page . ) I cave yon notice at the Hall of Science , at Manchester . " . "Why ?—Because yon said that parties had made complaints . What did I say thai parties complained of ?—Ton fid n&t Bay . Ton saM that yon conl ^ B ^ t ato p . On one occasion st a meeting ct tbe Hall of Science , did I fioi tell yea to be more particular in your report * , because -complaints bad been made of their inaceuracy ? —Ton said I was 10 report properly , because parties bad complained , bni yon would not give me their names . Did I not say that Tsrious complaints bad been made te me by parties that you had made ¦ wrong reports of their speeches ?—Y « u said yon bad every confidence in me .
Did 1 desire yon to ba particular in the report yon ¦ were then takizjg?—Tos . Can yon bring your mii : d at all to bear on the time ¦ when yon first gave information to Sir . Irwin ?—I cant to a day . Can yon to a week ?—I thiak it was about the 12 : h or 3 4 ta of S - > ptember . Yon aie Bnre yon are not three days out ?—I can t 83 J . G-n yon befonr ?—I m ' ght ba Can yen ba five dajs oni ?—I might be . Can yon be six da > s out?—I can ' t be more , I think . Wets yon in any woik at that tims ?—1 -was repsrtinr for the Northern Star . How soon after . Six . Irwin first made the ^ plication to yon did yon give him any information ? - Perhaps turn font tw five davs .
Ikd yoa ooasidrr yourself rfiended by the aj > i--ication being made to yen ?—1 did at first . Vfbj -were yen o £ F = aded at first ?—Because Hr . lr-¦ win was not in the habit of coming near inc . I thought he iusd tatsn too maeh apon himno ) f in asking me the question . Did yon state to anybody that yon wera offended ?—1 ooat recollect that I did . - D : d yon mention it to any body to put them on their guard?—1 -wrote . To -whom did you write ?—To the Evening Star . When yen wrote to the Evening Star , did yon sate that no one bad anything to communicate , and that it was of no use Sir . Iririn asking ?—J < iid » o £ . Too -will swtar that ?—I trill .
Alia jIt Irwin had been "with you , did you write a latter announcing thai feet ?—I did . Diq jou write a letter to ta » ?—No ; nol \ o yon . D 3 you "Write a letter to Ihe Editor of the Evening Star ? Did yon know that I was the Bailor vt the Evening Star 7—Yas . And yes yon did not write to me ?—I wrote to the cfice . Ton ¦ wrote to whom y < m knew to be the Editor , did
yon not ?—I wrote Mi . Psrdon-Was he the editor ?—I did cot direct to the editor . Did yon not cocBidtr Mr . Pirdon the editor?—2 ?^ . Was the lentr to h ? m ?—It was to the Evening Star "Was it to me ?—Net particularly . " Was it to the Editor ?—It was to the uffice . Do yon mean to tb » houss—daughter . ) Was there any application in it . Dl-a ypn write to me for meni-y to go to America , to take yen cut of lrwin ' s way ?—2 md not .
Ton will swear positively that yon never wrote for mosey to take yen out rf the country , because lrvrin was tampering -with yon ?—1 wilL Did yrn write lor money at * U ?—1 did , because it was owing Jo me . Whj yon inotr that 1 had nothing to do -with the financial department of tha Star ?—Yon told me to Write to Mr . HDL Wiiile 1 was und-r yon , 1 was paid for my serrices And you did not write a letter for money to take yon oni cf the conntry ? The Attorney-General—1 object to this mode of examination . If there is any such letter , let it be pitdnjed . Mi . O Connor—Dr-es the Attorney-General think that tier * is no other «? ay of proviD ? it ?
The Judge—1 know of no other proper course bnt to produce tbs letter . Mr . O Connor—Then , my Lira , after I * have done With tfc * witaess , I shall atk for him to be retained . Croa-Ex » mination resinned—Were yon not in a ^ -reat state ef poverty before Mr . Irwin applied to you ?—I was rather short of money . Did you complain to Mr . Irwin tfcat you were starvinz ?—No . J > id yon borrow money from Leach ?—I said that if I depended upon the Chartists , I mi ^ ht starve . Did yon borrow money from Leach ?—No . 2 fev = r 1—Not at tha ; time . Did yon borrow . sixteen shillings to bcry yonr chil- j drea ?—2 fo ! he psid me fifiefen sbUlii ^ s for . rajticg a lectnra . 1
After the Conference you have spoken of had broken up , what did yon consider it was that perpetuated the disturbances?—A strike for wages . How much money did you receive from Mr . Irwin , prior to going before the ilagistra-jgs , at Manchester ?—1 can't say . About bow mueb ?—Perhaps a sovereign . Wa » that all yon received ?—I think it was . Will yon swear it itas . ?—I will cot . Will yon swear yon did not receive two sovereigns ? 1 will not , but 1 think 1 only received one . Win you e ^ reas that yon did not receive three ?—Before 1 gxre in my deposition ? Yes ?—Tea , 1 TrilL After yon gave in yonr depositions , - and before yon left Manchester , bow much did yen received—Perhaps three sovereigns .
How many Chartist msetinES do yon think yon have attended?—X cant calculate tii ^ m . H&V 6 yon been in tha habit of sending the resolu ' iiouB passed at thoae meetic ^ s for insertion in the northern Star ?—l have . 1 ask yon , if the genesal ter . onr of the principal resolution has not fox year * part been— " and we pledge ourselves to continue the present straggle until tire Charter becomes the } aw of the lann ? - —it has . Ton were the Secretary to Hunt ' s Monument Committee ?—1 -was the jaid secretary . 1 ask yon on your o ^ th , waanot Mr . Scholefield , in particular , mast arxiuus , that every thing should be given up waicb bad the riigbtest tendency to bring the people nito c ^ -flision with the antho-Titles ?—1 thouebt « o
Did yon ^ rrite a letter the Northern Star , relative to the Monument Committee ?—Perhaps J did . Perhaps yon did . Dl-i yon or did yon not ?—When ? On the 11 th of August . Here , Sir , is a file of the lierihern Star of the 13 th of AugusL Is that letter ycuia?—It is . The officer of the Court rc&d the letter . It was as follows : —
" THE HUBT MOMTMEST COMMITTEE . ' Ho THE CHJLB . TISTS OF MjLSCHESTEB ., AhU THE FCXB 0 USD 1 SG Tow > s AKD TILLAGES . —The Committee appointed to superintend the erection of a itSonnmeut to the memory of the late Henry Hunt , Esq ., feel Borrow at having to inform you , and those other friends whe tad intended to honour ns"with their presence at the procession on the 16 th of August , that after duly coiwidering wpon the present awful and truly alarming state of this district , and after * very member present bad given W » opinion npon the matter , the following resolution was passed unanimously : —
" That , taking all tbingB into consideration , the committee deem it tfee most advisab ' e , « afe , and jndrciDns ct-crse to be pursued , under the circumstances , to abajidon Vie Precession announced to take place an the ifichof Augutt ; and that the Prtss be requested to -insert this resolution acd short address in their cur-» = Ei pnblleatioEa . " " The -distr i ct is certainly in a very unsettled state , and the mtmbers of the Committee believe that if any disturbance ensued on that day , the eneniies to the Cbsrti 3 t movement would snatch at the opportunity , and throw the blame on the Committee and the Chartists generally . They perceive that the Manchester Guardian has aiready begun to charge the Chartists as the originators of , and as taking part in , the distnrbanees already bad . A charge as false as it is cowardly and malicious .
" The meeting , respecting the Monument , will be bolden on the 16 th of August , in the Bev . JaiEK Scholfefiftld ' a borial ground , Evc-ry-strcet . The ground is private property ; and lie mietin . 3 will , therefore , bfc strictiy « afe and l ^ aL The delegated are tspecfed to be kere according to previous Ennouaceroeut ; likewise Peargns O'Connor , Esq . The tea party and ball wiil ^ isa be bolden in the evening , for which all due arrang&mentB are beiag made . " In adopting tLh course , the committee feel that they best eonsnit the interest and safety of the Char e w W * re ttey to 8 ° Ott ^ t 11 t ^ 0 procession , aad brag u ? on th = m the interference of the magistracy , ittmjdt mi * ht fee tte coBseguence . Kf e woulfl be eiidaasered , blood spilled , and our ^ ghleous movement peatiy enflaLgered saa leterdea . We wt to obtain SLS ^^ T * PeaC £ We ' " * «»^ tnS means , and dgi . by force and hramlt 11
Signed on behalf of the Committee " August 11 th , 1842 /' * - ^^^ ecretary . aJemST-ft " ¦ * " ^^^ * ° * - * Did yon ever yourself recommend any means belne xewartedto except peaceable and qoist means ?—I never did . That joa ^ swear on your oath ?—I do . Do yon know Hifcchin and Doolan 7 ^—Tes ; Do yon ; know where tt » workbouaeit Stockport is tftaated?—Tea . ^ . _ Did jaa era make any application to t&we two men , -Oi'SBJ **^ - two , to bum down the workhouse ? No . ' " ' SJnfcj V-i ^ eJB ?—I do . ^ " ^ fe ^ P ^ i ^? ^ j d y ^ propose tbe estabBsb : % fWS ^^ f ^^ STiCT ^ J ^^^ W ^^^^^ evant Sfe ^^ % ^ C ? V > i tho ^ t thewil
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On your oath , did you not tell Brook that you would be a nail in O'Connor's coffin , and that yon bad it in yonr power to destroy him ?—I did not . Nor anything of a similar nature ?—Perhaps you will allow me to explain . I said that 1 would expose you throngh tbe press , for the manner in which you bad Bervedme . That is for paying yon your wageB ?—Ne : for bringing me from a situation , and then leaving me to starve . Did you not give me notice to leave ?—Mr . HIQ Bald that the only fault we have to find with our excellent correspondent is , that be baa . bean too industrious—( laughter ) . Did you , at any time , at Hargreaves ' s bouse , say that you would be revenged on me before you died !—J did not Did you try to induce other persons to give information to Mr . Irwin ? - —Yes .
Who were the } ?—Mr . CarUedge . When did you try to induce him ?—While he was in the lock-up What did you state as the inducement ?—I told him that there was the prospect of a long imprisonment r * fore him , if the charge was pressed , and that if he thought proper , he could go into tke witness box , instead of into the dock . D , d yon tell Cartledge that if he went into the witness box instead of the dock , the prosecution would not be pressed ?—Tea . Did you tell him who sent yon ?—I did not . Wonld yon have been admitted to see any other prisoner ?—I should . Did you go ?—I did not .
How did yon live while you were in Ireland ? Did you louk out for a job of « ork ?—Idid not . Did you do one day ' s work ?—No . Is it not a fact that you were in a state of the most a > -j"Ct poverty before Mr- lr » iu came to you?—N * . t abject poverty , ler I had credit Ate you a Rood ChattM?—Yes . Do you subscribe to the six points of the Charter ?—I do . Lst me ask yon a fair question , what was tbe state uf Manchester , after the conference bad separated ?—It was in a very excited state . What was your impression as to the disposition of the people generally , at the several Chartist meetings yon have attended ?—Pcaceabla
What have been the principles which have generally indeed , 1 say unreservedly , been inculcattd on the people T—Tending to pease . Hava you ht&rd me explain at every xneetfug at which you have attended , that there was no man in this world whose intentions had been so much mk , represented as mine '—1 have . 1 a * k you , have ycu or have you not , at these several meetings , heard me tell the people , that the vuy moment an attempt was made to force them into a violation of the peace , from that moment their cau&e ¦^ as destroyed ?—l think 1 have L&iid yon say Bomethins to that effect
On your oath has not that been the spirit of my addresses at all the meetings you have ever attended ? —Lvvteriy , it has been bo . 1 nave btard you speak strong , but not bo txcidng as some . * Bat you say that the general tenour of all my t \ r 'cbt ^ has been to preserve peace , law , and order . H-ive j on heard the Northern Star , and myself , and a grtiit many of tbe leaders icprobated for not sanctioning the strike ? Tbe Attorney-General—I must object to that question . Mr . O'Connor—The Attorney-General charges the Sorthem star with causing the ctrite . Here is tbe repcsri ^ r , and I want to ehow you "what character tLe Northern Star has gained for itself by tbe course it has pursued .
The Judge—The Attorney-General alluded to a particular passage in a particular paper as having that tendency . Yon cant set off your exhortations to pt > ace ajui quiet on other occasions , as against exhortations to the contrary contained in a particular paper which the Attorney- General has put In . Mr . O Conn&r—It is perfectly competent for me from the lst of August to the l > t of October , to put all my acts into evidence tinrirg tfcs : period . The Attorney-Genera !—In my opening , 1 gave Mr . O'Connor credit for having , on various occasions , exhorted the people to quiet and peace . What 1 object to itov is , that Mr . O'Connor ask ? the witness if he has not heard that complaints have been made against the Northern Star for having done so and so . Anything as to Mr . O'Connor ' s general character , or the general character of his newspaper , 1 object to . Mr- O Connor—Yery well , then , 1 don't press the qatet on .
C > oss-examination resumed—Are you acquainted with tb « = uew « TeDdors of Maochefcter ?—Not generally . Da Jail , knou- wbcD any society , or any jndivlcluf tl , having a placard t * publith , send them to the sh ^ ps of new * vendors , for the purpose of being placed on boards fox public fcxbibitioi , ?—1 believe they are . B > w iong have you ki-own Jamts Leach ?—Two years . 1 will venture to put a question to you on his beha . f . What 1 b your opinion of Mb character ?—He is a very honest man . Has he at all times been opposed to violence ?—la ¦ cy hearing , he baa , Is hfe sol esteemed as an excellent man by all parties ? — 1 have heard political parties speak highly of him . 1 bt-heve you are » ware that very angry discussions have taken place betwten tbe Com Law Repealers and the Chartists during the last year suid a half ?—Yea .
Were yon present on one occision when you saw me knocked down three times , and taken out of the meeting bleeding , in const qaence of a blow on tbe temple with a st De ?— 1 was not present , but 1 beard tbe report . "Were you before the Magistiates , when 1 applied for protection against these parties ?—1 was not . Is it ihe general fetling in Manchester , and have yon not known it fox two years , that tbe working classes ftel that the police rendered them no protection ?—Not generally . Has it not been stated that tbe policemen were the blndgeftn men of the League ? The A ' . torney General—1 mu » t object to that question . It is itally out of all character . Were yon at a meeting in St . Slephenson ' s-Bquare , at ^ hich Mt . Ccbden attended ?—Yea .
Did you see the authorities there ?—I did . D ; d yon see the working-people there ?—1 did . DA you see the police there ?—I «( id . Wnat occurred ?—There was a great deal of fighting , and a row . On whose part wbjb the fighting ?—I did not distinguish the party , bnt I understand it was your own oni : try men— ( Laughter . ) Why to be Bure , my countrymen are famous fellows for fighting . It -was they who knocked m down—( Xausbu-r . ) Bat to which party did they attach themselves ?—I understood to tbe League . D-d you think we were conspirators when w © met } The Attorney-G . neral objected to the question . Mr . O'Connor—Yon may go .
By the defendant Otley— 1 have been in Sheffield once . 1 have not beard yon speak at any meetings in Lancaabire or Y <» k * hire . When 1 was at the Conference 1 took yon for M'Artbur , the chairman . 1 know you now . The tendency of your speech was against the strike . 1 never read anything written by you in favour of physical force . By il'Csrtney 1 jpent my time in Ireland in reading and writing , and taking moderate exercise . 1 have neither hunted or fished . 1 have shot at small birds for amusement . 1 have not been connected with the Irish police establishment I borrowed a carbine from a man who keeps a shop . He is not connected with the Irish constabulary force . 1 do not think there was the slightest anticipation of a strike throughout tile eaurtry * i the time the Conference was called together ; at least it never came to my knowledge . 1 thought that particular care was taken at the Conference to see that e ^ ery delegate had been legally and properly elected
by the meeting he professed to represent . The reason i why 1 said that 1 would not tell in whose band writing the corrections of the Executive Committees' address j were , was becanse 1 did not know . % e barrister Raid ' " Yon must tell , " and then 1 said "Well , then , 1 think it is Mr . CartledgeV 1 remember having a conversation with Campbell , one of the defendants . 1 did not I say to him that there were some Chartists in whom-1 could place no corfldepce . 1 attended some of the ' trade ' s delegates meeting in Manchester . 1 have beard it remarked that when the first meeting of tbe traces delegates took place , that tbe excitement in the town of Manchester was beginning to snbside . I never said so myself . 1 think the tendency of the Trades' Meetings was to keep up the agitation . I did not f ihhik they had a tendency to repress the disturbances . I remember visiting yon in prison , Bnd sympathising with you , and also congratulating you on your liberation . 1 accompanie < l you to the railway . We adjourned to & tavtrn .
Witness—I wonld advise yoa not to , ga Jute that : because it will injure yourself . j DcfendaBt—At , the tims . you were shaking haads ! with me , and congratnlatin / j me an my liberation , bad 1 yon not given that informs tion o » ihe streagtb . of . which 1 I was again arrested . Witness—Not officiaFiy . A . littJe ixfonnati&a had been given , I told you so whan I w a& . at Manchester . By Sir R Pollock—A t the me « tiT ; g . « f delegates , Mr . Scbolefield brought in iuf-jrmatlrjn that Tamer the printer , had been ; arresf # & . 1 havo been ont rf the way because the Star and J iriti& . Statesataa were condemning me . Information was . brought to me a ! Manchester , that if I appear ** ,, fcutbe witoeaB box , I . should ba assassinated . The ¦^ TiyymuTig q | the Cosference had nothing to do wi' & 3 » ference to HBJjfs monument . Tberewasnotbingi'
-iBcaswedattheoonferencebutthereao-Jutoons and the si ldras 8 , ^ hicb . I hme mentioned . There was nothing said aboat setttiog differences . All the discussion related t 0 the Charts * and the strike . There was nothing said r ^ qaecting Brat ' s Monument . 1 took a note of Mr . 0 ^ -Conno ^ s * peeek at iho Conference . 1 r ? . f **** a * eibaUm report of the speech , but the n « rrt of ifc The-snbstance of it Was to alter the word fw ^^ 1 " to " approve , " » nd to take advantage of u » stnse , l ^^ 03 , ) Q& trades had joined , * nd would be ^ odMbJt ' ^ liaJ 7- He assigned as a reason that i * Zff 7 " ie it more legal , svnd ^ vade jfche law in the ^ Tr ? 6 failure of the Btrike . ^ nn H&nley examined by Six G- Lewln—Zr i ^ Ji andas—H-. va ymi not beta in court daring tbe
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Witness—1 have , by the permission of your Lordship . Examined—In the month of August last , 1 V 7 as a reporter for the Manchester Guardian . On the 15 tb of August , a meeting of the trades' delegates was held at tfaa Sherwood Inn , Tib-street , Manchester . It was convened by a placard . Alexander Hutohinson was in the chair . There wen a n amber of persons called " scrutineers .- ' The ; examined the credentials of the various delegates , before they were admitted into th « room . After that , an adjournment was moved to Carpenter ' s Hall . 1 -went there . The chair wa ? taken at one o ' clock by Hutcbinson . M'Cartney , John Leacn , 6 t Hyde , Goorge Candalett , Augustus Frederick Taylor . David Morrison , William Woodruff , and Alfred
Wolfenden , were there . A man named Duffy spoke . The character of his speech waa that the anti-Corn Law League were the originators ot tbe disturbance . He moved a resolution to the effect—that tbe delegates now assembled view with the greatest indignation a proclamation to t £ e inhabitants of Manchester , in the name of the constituted authorities , and that as representing the great mass of the-working classes , they feel themselves called upon to express their firm determination to stand up for their constitutional right of discussing all matters in which they consider their interests involved . They recommend every man to apply to the constituted authorities to be sworn in as special constable * , such a course affording tbe best proof of their disposition te
preserve peace , law , and order . ' This amendment was seconded by M'Cartney , and the consideration of it adjourned until the delegates had made their report There was a tea-party , at Carpenter ' s Hall , on the 16 th . I know Mr . Jami-s Schok-field . When I got thbre be was addressing the meeting . He told the assemblage " that their day waj coming , and when it did come , H would come with a vengeance . " He called upon them to enjoy themselves , an > 4 to remember the occurrences of twenty-three years ago . He tbnn left the meeting At tbe meeting , at tbe Hall of Science , the same day , a resolution was moved by Benj-imin Stotfe , recommending to all trades' societies " that from henceferjJi they make political discussions lawful and necessary in their assemblies , and that they embody , in their rules , a law for the adoption of this great principle . " This was seconded by a person named Higginboitem , but
ultimately withdrawn . The next resolution was moved by William Scott , to the effect " that an immense majority of the delegates were in favour of the Charter , and that in conformity with that opinion it was at that stage ^> f the proceedings necessary that a definite decison should be came to relative to the future coarse of action , to be immediately adopted by tbe working classes , sttfting definitely whether labour be further suspended or again resumed . " Joseph Main waring then moved a resolution to the effect , — " That the delegates here assembled recommend tbe people to take all leg il means to carry the People ' s Charter ; and that they issue an address approving of the strike ; and that they stop work until it becomes the law of the land . * Frederick Taylor , from Rqyion , seconded the resolution . Be was sometimes called Frederick Augustus Tayior .
By Mr . Biinea—1 stood upon the platform near to Mr . Scholefield . By M'Cartney—1 have been reading from print , cut out of the Manchester Guardian , but 1 have my original notes with me . 1 recollect your moving a resolution at the Hall of Science on vhr following day , that as there was no dependence to b < -- placed on tbe newspaper press , they might as well admit tbe public . Wo such resolution wob proposed at the Carpenter ' s Hall , it was not my duty , as reporter for the Manchester Guardian , to t&ke a verbatim report of the speeches , btcausu 1 Knew that the editor would not allow full reports . It was my duty to g . ve a fair expression of what was done , and not of what was said . So many speakers uttered the same thing , that 1 could put in fonr or five
lines what had been done in six hours—( laughter ) . As far as 1 can recollect tbe general tenour of the speeches was to inculcate the p-eservation of property , the preservation of tho peace , and respect for tbe constituted authorities , so far as they acted legally . The meeting of tho 16 th bretku up in a quiet autl orderly manner . 1 was at the beginning of the meeting at Carpenters' H > li , on the following day . The general character of tbe speeches delivered there were not to hold proper ty sacred . Cande ' . eU recommended the people to go to tbe hills and take the crops into their possession , and live on them . 1 don't rtmember that this recommendation was reprobated by tbe Hiett ing . 1 thick he was not turned ont ; if be bad , I should have noticed the fact .
The witness here rend bis notes of what Candelett had said , on which , the Judge expressed it as bis opinion tbat vbe language did not bear out the construction which had bten put npon it by Mr . Hanley . Cress-examination resiiHK-d—The chairman objected to ieave the meeting at Carpenter ' s Hall , on toe ground tbat the mag i strates had no anthority to interfere withj teem . Baring the ten minutes allowed them in which to disperse , they passed tbe resolutions 1 navu alluded to . The Attorney General said he now proposed to call some witnesses tosptak to what occurred after the 17 th and lgih Auguut
Alaithew Marsden , examined by Mr . Hildyard—1 nm conatab e of Abb ton . 1 was at the Town Hall , on Tbnmday , tbe lS ' -h of August . A mob came tbi-re Brined with sticks . 1 know Hubert Lee . He wait heading tbe mob . Tbey werjt to Mr . Barrowh ' s new fcaildlDgg . There wore some bricklayers ami labourers at work . Tne superintendent refused to allow tbe men to be tat en away . A riot tiieued , and tbe men ultimately desisted from work . Tbe Riot Act was read . By Jubnson , a defendant—1 mean by a riot , there was a general disturbance . Tbe mob bramlUhed their sticks , ami said tbey didn't care a d ^ either for the riot act or the magistrates . They told tbe bricklayers that if tbey did not comb down frum the scaffold tbey wouM fetch them . By William Woodruff , defendant—1 don't know that any puraon was injured btloie the Riot Act wan read .
Samuel Newton , examined by Mr . Pollock—1 was at Auhton , on the 18 th of Au ^ UBt last . 1 wbs at Hulme ' u miil on that day . 1 remember a number of persons coming there about ten o ' clock in the forenoon . 1 should think at tbat time there were 300 came together . They had sticks and other weapons . The mill was at work when tbey came . The mob dtairtd the master and overlooker to stop the works . The latte * said that the master was not present , and he could no nothing . As the people were going away , they said , " We have not force enough bwe , let us go to fetch the others . " They returned in about two hours after . 1 sboald think there wonld be 900 then . They walked to tho mill , and then the bands turned out . After that they wanted the young master to promise that the works
should not start agair * He replied that so long as their hands were willing to- work , the mill must run . The mob then raked ont tbe fireB from under the boilers , and some of them called out to pull the pluga- away so as to let the water out . One plug and one fire was drawn , and the soldiers then come up and dispersed tbe mob . James Whittam examined by the Attorn&y-Gimeral —I live at Carlton , about ten miles from Colne , and two miles from Skipton . On the 16 th of August , a mob of 2 000 or 3 , 000 came to Skipton . They stopped tho works of Mr . Dewburgt and Air . Sedgwick . The latter made resistance for an hour or better . Tho mob gob
a reinforcement and ovurpowared Mr . Sodgwick ' a people . They turned cut tbe hands , and stopped the boilers . I know James Moonty . tie lives at Colne . Ha told me abont "Slaving been to tbe Conference at Manchester , as a delegate . He- said they were broken up at tbe Carpenter ' s Hall , and then they went to Mr . Scholefibld ' a place . He farther informed me tnat a few met af terwards at Chcimoss . He said they were well prepared , and that if' anybody had gone there to- break them up , they woald have rebelled them force to force . He told me that , they had four double-barreiled guns , and two or three angle-barrelled ones . This vkm said at tha end of Angost . Nobody was with us when the conversation took
place-By . Mr . M'Oubzay . —1 . was once a Chartist myself . 1 am a . weavfer , and am in employment now . 3 have a respect for the laws . 1 . never sold tea in my life . Charles fiaracfc examined by Mr . Wortley -In Aug . last , I was employed as a . designer to Messrs . Wanklin , at Ashton . On the 18 th > of August a mob came and . tuixed out tat hands . We . ttttutnad to work on the following day , but tbey turr . ed us out again . We then remained out till the 22 iid . On the 24 . th , the mob came again . Upwards of 400 or 5 D 0 came to the rates , and there were thousands about . Tne gates were fastened , and they broker tbe in down . Tuey threw stones into the engine house , anr l a number got into the wheels . Tbe Magistrates and » p c-oal constables came up while this was going on , aad tt < ey wtre stoned by tbe same parties .
GrattanM'G&bex cxaj nineA by Sir Gregory Lewin—I am a puliae EUperiatun dent at Burnley . 1 apprehended Beesley , one of &e d diend&cts , on tho 3 rd of September . 1 found a print . ed paper upon him . 1 now produce it The officer of th / j Court read the paper . It was a resolution approving of the continuance of the " struggle" until tha Charter should become a legislative enactment . By Mr . O'Connor—1 did cot attend a meeting of shopkeepers at Biackburn , adopting tha People's Caorter . 1 did not hear yoa speak at Burnley . 1 had other speeches reported but not yours . It was too difficult . The procession through the kwn wob quite contemptible . We bad been led to expect a very formidable procesaien * and the police were prepared for them . When we- saw that the number was so very sm&ll , we did nottake any further notice of them . :
Mr . Issechar Thorp examined by Mr . Hildyard—I am a manager of the bleach works o ! Messrs . Neild , at Stalybridge . Our works bad been stopped , I understood that than was a body in Stalybridge who granted licenses to renew work . I went to the plaee at wtrich they were represented to meet , and saw a number of persona there , I communicated tbe object I bad in wishing to meet the committee . I told them that we wanted tbe power to work up the cloth , which was in process of bleaching . In consequence of what was said , 1 went to the Moulders' Anns . A sm 3 ll piece of paper was produced purporting to giant permiBalon to renew work . £ he pap « r was put in and read It waaas follows : ?—" We , tbo Committee of StnljHridce , think it our < 1 uty 10 —w . v ; ... ; i »« . ew ; . v- Ui : \ - < Jii \ . i I ; &ius ' l lbs
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pieces already in daDger , bnt we will not go beyond that point . " " Ott hehatf of the Committee , " To the Dukinueld Bleach Works . * After 1 received-that p-iper , our mill was allowed to work nntil we bad finished the pieces then in process of manufacture , when the works ceased and stopped for seven or eight days . By Mr . 0 Connor—1 do not know what Committee 1 went to—whether ft was the committee of " public safety" or not Mr Peter Jamison examined by the Attorney-General —I am a tailor , and live at Stalybridge . My men were
turned out 1 bad orders for mourning ; after th&tl vent to a public nous * at Stalybridge . to get permission for the men to make tbe mourning . Tbe first time ! went 1 saw Fen ton and Durham , two of the defendants . They said ( bat they had business of importance to attend to , and 1 must come again . 1 afterwards received a piece of paper from one of my men , for per mission to work . In a day or two , two persons came to tbe house to see whether we were making mourning or not They fount ) a coloured jacket which a man had been repairing , and they remarked that that was not mourning . My-wife suggested that the men should take the work home , in order that there might be no
disturbance . Wiiiiam Barker , examined by the Attorney-General —1 was in the employ of Mr . Jamieson , in August last . 1 remember going to the Moulders' Arms , in Stalybridge , to present my master ' s compliments to the committee , to ask permission to make mourning fur a funeral , in order tbat we might show it to the mob . 1 received a small piece of paper which 1 did not read , and gave it to my uustor . By Mr . O'Connor—Have you ever had any quarrel with your master ? Witness—No . Have you ever been charged with any offence by him ?—No , not by him . Who then ?—Some of the men charged me with taking two or three " rags '' from the shopboard , but they couldn't prove it
Why , what did you take the rags for ?—To put in my bat , to carry a small bundle on . What , was your head sjft ?—( laughter ) . —1 put ' em in to carry some swill on—( laughter ) . What sort of swill?—Swill for pigs . Was it jour own swill ?—Was it your ' a ?—( laughter ) . It was bought and paid for . Now , thfvo rage . What were tbey ?—The other men said they were " spare trimmioKS "— ( laughter . ) Is that what you call cabhige ?—( great laughter ) . — No . now't so gjod—( laughter ) . But your muster being a " swell , '' you wanted something soft on which to carry the swill ?—1 defy you or any other nun to charge me .
Were you threatened to be brought before the Magistrates for it ?—1 was threatened to be brought before an attorney . But you Bee 1 am not brought to justice yet . No , you are brought to justice now , and aa you have got before the Attorney-General , you may go down—( fatitthtor ) . By the Attorney General—1 was never charged by my master with uny offence . 1 am not in his employ now . Mr . George Roberta , book-keeper to Messrs . Potter , of the Diitim Vale bleach works , Duckenfield ; aixi Hwnry Hoberis , in the wervlce of Messrs Hobinson , bleachers , Duckunfield , were called to prove that thoy hed received a license from a committee of operatives , to enable the above firms to resume their operations . At the conclusion of the examination of tbe last-mentioned witness ,
Tne Attorney-General rose and said 1 am extremely pappy , vij Lord , to tell you that the case for the prosecution Is closed . The Judge called the Attorney-General ' s attention to tbe cu . se , and to the indictment , especially as to the counts for riot As to some of tbe defendants there whs no evidence at all ; as to others there was evidence of choir being present in assemblages with sticks , [ h ^ . ; and ( i 8 to others there was no evidence of such acts ; but there was evidence as to their assembling as delegates . The Attorney-General—In a case of misdemeanour it is not 'vt all necessary tbat ail defendants should be convicted on one count .
Tbe Judge—1 think you can't have an indictment for a misdemeanour , in which you charge A and B for stealing mont ? y , and then for au assault , and find A guilty of one offouce , B of another , and C of a third . Att j-ney-Gbneml—My Lord , 1 will state what did occur before Lord Dennian wben I remember tatting precisely the same ot'jrctiun as that now stated by yonr Lordship . Some persons Were charged with acouBpirocy , aome with obtaining raenfy , and some with obtaining false evidence In that case some of tbe defendaata were convicted on one count , and some on another . Lord Denmivn ruled tbat it was perfectly competent , in case
of misdemeanour to indict for a riot and assault , if there were two counts-. This rule was acted upou , and a cumber of the dffentfanta were convicted on the first count , and some on the second . And I think , my Lord , tbat this furnUhta a striking illustration o ? tbe importance of the prinop-e . d / ce of 'bo counts in this indictment is for a r '«> t . Tour Lordship knows that a , riot ih essentially different from an unlawful meeting , and the punishment is different . I take that some of thesa defendants might be found guilty of riot . I don'b nn-an to say thpt any tucb charge can exist against Mr . Siholttlfilrt .
Mr . Dundas—The Attorney-General opened bis speech in this w . y . Ha said tht question was , whether tee litfcndiiits had unlawfully conspired together to bring about a change in tha Constitution by taking advantage of the late strike . We , on the part of tlia defendants , understood that that was to be the question in this case . I understood tiat if tftesu parties wura to be convicted , tbey were to be convicted for the b&xih ) effnee ; 1 nildorstood tbat that was-acquiesced in fry tho Attornej- General . Tho Attorney-General— 1 beg my Leirned Friend's pardon , 1- d * rt not atqaitace in uaysuch Ibing . Mi \ Dundas—Surely then , the Attorney-General onght to ha-va tt ^ teii that ha intended to depart from the course which he chalked ortt in his opening . Toe Jmige . —What he now uaysis .-that it is compa ^ tent for hiiu > to fiud the defendants guilty of separate off ' enaes .
My . Wortiey—So far from osqviescing in the course pointed out by the other side , 1 jaUl 1 could not then dis < cuss the question . Now tuy Lor ;} , 1 'beg to call your Jordfihip ' satteution to a case which !'• think especially applies , und which was tried before Mr . Justice Cresswell , at liivevpnol . The name of tbs defendant v ? as Krll 7 , and the indictment was something very similar to tfce one now under discussion . There was a count for a conspiracy , a riot , and for on unlawful assemblage . Tber » was no eridunce of a oooepiwey . Then as to the Kot . There- was a large masting huld at As > hton ,
amounting to sn illegal assemblage . The 11 , 0 b rxroceedt * l to & niiU-in ttboity , and these wan a riot . At > tbe dm flush of the case , Mr . Justice Cressweil woo-of opinion that two-eeparate tr , c&actiono inuat be refeited to , i » order to allow one sat-of the defendants to , b 6 convicted on one count and seme on another . We shewed his Lordship , however tbat the transaction was nil one , bv tracing tbe mob from one plao . to anotbvr , and thus we obtained a conviction of riot agaiast some , and against others for an unlawful aeoeiubiacs .
Tha Attorneyi-General—1 can assure you , my Lord , that this indictment has been carefully framtd with a view-to that same object . Tilt Judge—But is it not a great hardship againafcihe defendants , if tbey do not know * to what charge to direct their attention , when tht > y come to defend thtmselveoi ? 1 mean those who do not appear by Couasel . Tii © Attorney General—1 will put a case , my Lord . 1 will suppose that there at » a cuhiW of persona outaide . Manchester , and they joia those ioside tho-town , for nome purpose or other . They divide tberaeelves , one part going in one direction , and another ia anoihen , and each party doing certain acts , one exceeding in magnituds tbe other . 1 , think you might- indict them along , with others who took a subordiuaie share in those transactions , and by . proper counts you might ; include them all in one indictment
Mr . Sergeant Murphy—Yiuax Lordnhip will . perceive that all febe defendants ore charged with conspiring together . Supposing it should appear that tvselve persona conspired together to- cause a cessation iroin labour , in , order to tffect > an advance of wages , and tbat twelve others were to conspire to effeai a change m , the law . Shall it bo- said tbat tbe tenner axe to b » convtsted because the , others took adv&otage of the strike . The Judge—The onlyf thing which staggers me is the case quoted by Mr . Woistley . 1 don't aea that there isanything unreasonable in the proposition which , has . just been submitted by the Attorney-General ; but ia this indictment , thedbfendants are indicted for * conspiracy to cause riots , and another foz the perpetration of xiotB , which are petfectly distinct acts . Mr . Dundaa—Xes , and met by . different punishments .
The Judge—I have a record to daai with , and 1 3 » n't know how to gel at it , but by taking the opinion ot the jury on each encje ., Some of the defendants arc in the last indictment , who are not in the flrat , and come are in the first who are not iu the test . 1 feel considerable doubt whetbjat any judgment could be got in such a record . There is no doubt that it is the commonest thing in tbe world that where a paitj is charged wit& a folony , bo make bis election , and \ confess 1 don ' t see the difference between a felony and misdemeanow , on such & subject The difficulty is , that the defendants will have great difficulty in knowing which charge , is intended to hittbem . Toe Attorney-General—Tbat which appears toyous Loxdship to be a difficulty , baa beea very well considered by those who have advised the Crown .
The Judge—As the Attorney-Gaaeral says that much discuaaion has taken place npon this point , my view of the cose may he erroneous . AU 1 can do , however , is this—if there ia no count abandoned 1 mast take a vstdict ou e&cbi The Attorney-General—Then , my Lord , 1 will at once abandon tbe count for riot Mr . O'Connor—Come Mr . Attorney-General , abandon the whole thing with a good grace—( laughter . ) The Judge—That implies the four last counts . The AUorney-Geuttal—Your Lordship knows there is an obvious reason . Tbe Judge—That exonerates all tke defendants . The Attorney-General—Your Lor&hip ia aware t ^^ l the i'ujiioMa ^ u « m caws of nut * is ( - ufc teww auci
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may proceed to a length to which I have no desire to expose some of the defendants , against whom that charge cannot be sustained . The Judge—I think you will Bee , that that applies to all the last four counts . [ The Judge read the seventh count , and referred to the sixth . ] The Attorney-General—1 will take any course your Lordship thinks right . The Judge—I confess I think you will do mnch wiser to abandon the last four countB , which really relate to actual riot , of which , as against the bulk of the defendants , there is nor evidence at all . The Attorney-General—My Lord , I put Mr . Soholefield forward as a prominent instance of one of the defendants who was certainly not within that : and it is bat fair to say , that I should not propose , or at all desire , to deal so very differently with some , as compared with others of the defendants , as to ox them to punishment so very different .
pose The Judge—Tbe questieii we may take to be in the five first couutu—are all there conspiring to cause an alteration in the lawa and constitution , by making the people cease from labour , or inciting them to dof it , which will be nearly the same thing I Then , as to the fifth count , I have Borne doubt whether that does strictly charge the defendants —[ his lordship read the count]—with conspiring not to do anything by violence , but merely to persuade the people to cease from labour . I know there are different opinions in very high quartets as to whether that constitutes a crime or not . It then becomes a question whether you will confine them to the first four counts . Therefore we may consider the riot as entirely out of the question . The Attorney-General assented ; but added—I do not think the sixth and seventh counts involve an actual riot .
The Judge—No 5 they do not . Yoa may choose to go on with them ; but it seems to me very desirable to limit the number of counts as much as possible ; and I think you will find that , substantially , the first four counts compromise all . The Attpmey-Genoral asked to see the indictment , and ) at shis time the jury retired for a fevr minutes ta take refreshment . After their return , the Attorney-General intimated that the Judge would give him till the next morning to consider what course he would adopt , and therefore he woold only say now , that he abandoned ail charge of tun against the defendants . The Judge—That leads 119 substantially to know what you will do ; and I think , if not in point of form , at least in substance , that limits jt to the offences as charged in the early * counts . There is conspiring ^ and inciting to denial from work , and by seditions placards , &c , with intent to bring about a change in the laws and constitution .
The Attorney-General—I believe that the offence of riot subjects the parties convicted of it to hard labour . Ijhavo Hp desire to make any ^ distinction between one set of persons and auother , with respect to any thing of that sort ; and 1 beg that that may be distinctly understood . ( Other placards , including that headed * ' Kun for gold , " were put in , and taken as read . ) At half-past two o ' clock , Mr . DundaB 'hen rose , and said that the assQ for the prosecution ] having now closed , the Attornes-General , io his discretion , emYi' wg no moto witnesses oa tbe part of the'indictment which he was there to sustain , it became h | is ( Mr . Duudas's ) duty to present Simaelf before them , as counsel for Robert Brooke , one ofl tbe
defendants , Sand to state fcs tue Jury fairly , as a freeman ought . ) what were the giounds on which he- » a « i not guilty to this charge , Batjbetoie he proceeded- to enter into thin case , allow him to remind thenv a » in common conscience to tbo other defendants , he ouifht to remind them , t&at he appeared but tbt Robert Brooke alone , that the other defendants were some of them represented by learned friends of bis ; wbont be rijoicert in having : associated with him ia this work of privilege , defending those persons whose interests were entrusted to their charge ; - and otnere of the defendants appeared there by themselves to receive ait the hands of the Jury , upon what they might say fur themselves , that &ir und libeial construction , which he bad not the slightest doubt they
would pay to the humblest of them ail , as much as if be were represented by a gentleman , the highest in his profession , wuoui he had the honour of sitting by at that moment , H « would add one more fact , which he trusted tho Jury , from tbe beginning to the end , would hear in mind—that each and ail of the defendants , though they vfere joined in one common charge in this indictment , stood severally on their own delivotance , and therefore their jharge was not in the first place against tbeiri all , but it was , in the ftrs > t jda . ee , with respect to- each , to see whether , by tbo forca of truth—by- that necessity which ought to we igh on just-minded iflen , the / found themselves coKpelled by what was giv * . n in evidence to flnu any one of th « defendants guilty on this
indictment . Having jaade these preliminary observations , which he trusted tbe jury would not thinfe ill-timed , be would , with ; theirpermiscion , proceed U 3 » y something on behalf of j his cJkat They would remember that in tbe cairn and formal opening of this case , which was made by the Attoroey-Gnnural on the pravious Wednesday morning , tint tne nauie of his client , Brooke , never transpired—Cba * although he ( Mr . Omwias ) sat , lonjinK ar . 4 wnnt-Bij to know upon what grounds Robeit Brooke wa& 10 be found guilty 0 ? this charge , from tbe opening of vbe address to the close of it , he nevar had his attention -pointed to it at all . He-did not complain . He aid sot complain of th « want of eandonr on the part of his Ltsrntjd Friend . The malbiplfsity of tbe defendants made io no such easy mutter for a man to
poiat to particular evnK > oce applicable to etca . Sut be did fiitd this difficulty , ats 4 be bad found it uofc only a grievance , but a very considerable burden , that he trail not from the Snt an opportunity of knowing what was the parUvuiar charge to b ? preferred a ^ ainrV his client , and upon what species ] of'evidence it was'tbat a conviction'wus sought at theii bands . He knew &y the indictmtofr the nature of the charges that were p&lng to be brought against Brooke , b > jfr when he told tb * m tha * that indictment contained nine counts , many oi them of a dijdreai sort fr m the ather . they would QMily perceive that it did open tb » doo ? , to a certain £ e # rce , to vague oad undefined accusations , if the-Grown did not mak&-& . particular couns fit against tbe defendants . See xthtA was the consequence -of this .
The AtSerney-General , in his opening , pat tae iaeae on this single point . He charged tho defendac&s-toat , by iarge a&semb ' lages , they bud endeavoured , by . force , threats , and intitninatiov , to breed euch uIsth * in the country as to produce a change in some of - 'the great features of the Constitution . That was Sid general charge which the Attorney-Genoral had heaped- npon all the defendants , and agaiast -his client , a poor , lame man , lining at Todmorden , was alt the strength of the Crown to be borne down bj » this single issue ? He ( Mr . Dundas >* on the part of that poor man , was ihere to say that be had d »» ne no auoh thing ; that he bnd-intended to di no such thing ; but that bia intention and act , if they tocb the whole evitivace , which tou& £ ted him at all , was io induce the v&ople who were out oa strike to
adopt tfia principles ot tha Charter . And ho would Bay , in the presence of the Court , that ) . ' tbat was quite a- different thiE&fxoin saying , thai by threats and intimidation , he Bought to breed such alarm in the country , as to produce a fundamental change in sorae points o ! the constitution . The object of his client was to induce tbe people , by lx-asouable means—ty-eucii means as wheu they came U > R £ pty iheir minds to » ae evidence , tbey wonld j say these iuvans were , to adopt the Sis Points of the Charter . ' What was the strike ? and then th&y would sea \ jsfc . &t was the Charter . Ho ( Mr . Dundao ) would say , shat if the men were out on strike , and if he wew-a Ciiartiat , be oonteaued tbat he mis&t take advantage of tlw circumstance to induce those sen to accomplish tbat which by legal
enactment only c . uld ba accomplished , acid -which they thought would cure tho mischief thai ; had brought the cttike about . H ~> knew that this- was a bold proposition , ! but one which , in a frea country , a free man . had a right to- vmtke , and on the- part of his client be was prepared to abide by it , and 60 show tbat beyond th'it be bad . no intention , by . force , by threats , andtby intimidation , to do anything ifaal mitiht induce tb £ , people who were out on strike , to . come into the principles of the Charter . If he hud sought by bayonet , bj- pistol , and violsuce of that kind , to bring about the Charter ; no dojibt it would have been illegal ; bxtv they would find tbat he had done no such thing . It was by moral and not by physical force that he hud andcavouied to iaiplant the principles of the Charier .
lie would now ask them what was tbe strike . ?; All those I whfi lived in this county woald remember , tbe beginning and . origin , vtry liSely , of tbe differences between the workmen and their masters . He was not there curiously to- div « into tbe particular causes wbicn brought about She disagreements bstween the working men and their masters . It was enougil for him tbat the workuu ; classes , in different parts ) of the country , w < re fcEtreuiely diBaatisfiisd with their wages , tbat they , were , whether well or ill founded , vader the impceasion that their wages were about to be still furtheMX'duced , and , cosscqneutly , they did that which by law they were ensitl ' td to do , asaembld together , and wider the law in that behalf , consider for themselves tbat question which had again
and again met the ears ot the Jury in the . course of this inquiry—whether for u fair day ' s work they could not have a faiij day's wage . By luw , evesy working man had a right ] to sell his labour to tha best advantage , and that as j the masters were protected , so were tbe men , and that as the masters might csmbind to see what wages they would give , so niigbt the working men combine to sea what wages they really would accept from their masters . . Every man might meet to do this thing without any fear of consequences . The 6 th of Q ; o . IV . c . 129 , made in July , 182 &J folly bore him oat in this particular . The 4 th section ! of that act specially provided tbat it should
not " extend to subject any persons to punishment who should meet togetber tor t ! je sole purpose of considering the rate of ; wages or tbe prices which t&e persons then present , shall require for his or her work . " There was a protection | to every person . Every working main , whether wisely or unwisely , whether reasonably or unreasonably dissatisfied , had a full right , under the sanction of this law , to meet his fellow workmen , and to consider ia what manner they might bring about a . feeiter rate 0 / wnges . Toe Jury wouW find that at all those meetings , which were uliuded to before whai was called the ] invasion of Manchester , ( aithougb , he was no . tg-. Jcg ty Uefrflu an ; yivK'BSe «¦ . ^ toWiJtime u {
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Iansnage or conduct , ) that the object was a diacuggf of wages , though very often the Charter superS ? Did any man doubt that the original object of tna » meetings was to effect a better remuneration for labbri ? and that they thought , whether reasonably or no ^ S would not stop to inquire , that their wages wouM remain in their then state of depression , until tbe enaut ment of tha Charter had been accomplished ? He ( tf r Dundas ) . was no Chartist , but he differed Immeuwi , with many persons who thought that the Charter wZ tained nothing of truth . He had strong opinions fa politics , but he never looked upon a man asa badsnK ject , who differed with him in some fundamental Drin " had lived to of
ciple . He see some those opinio ^ which , in his youth , were reprobated aa bad , as here . tical , and dangerous , adopted by the very p& ^ whose language was ever readily employed ia ^ Z smearing those who dare to indulge them and in denouncing them as open enemies to ' th constitution . One of the points of th ? Charter was the Vote by Ballot . Who did not remeaf berthat twenty years aeo , any person advocatingtha ballot , would have been put down by tbs . common corw sent of all parties , as a madman , whereas now , it »» impossible to go into any company or society , ii Wny ! this much maligned mode of voting did not flnddew ders . He knew that many honest and well meanina
men , were opposed to the ballot , as he knew that maw had yielded a reluctant assent to the princi ples of fta constitution , as it now existed , if there was troth , in a principle , it would sooner or later establish itself fa spite of all the opposition tbat might be raised agafegt it . It seemed as if a man who sought any change ** ail , was to be looked on by some parties as danger ^ and who wished to upset the constitution ^ as though 2 bad no idea that by moral means he * might put forth his views and take advantage of the generally expressed opinion of the country . Now , the strike , as K « w
be ' ore safd , was upon wages . His client was a Cnartojt , He thonght among other things , that it was not nee * sary tbat members of Parliament should have any qm , lifieatton while sitting there . Be ( Mr . Bandas ) should be a very unworthy Scotsman , if he were to say that he did not think tbat that was a very bad lav There were fifty-six members for Scotland , and B 0 I one of them bad a property qualificatkm at all , so that there were some things in the Charter that were not so ridiculous and reprehensible as some parties seemed to be disposed to think . Now , then , there being a strike the men who composed it thought thejr never- » ooli be better off till tbey obtained the Charter ; ^ ^ would say tbat a Chartist had a right to say to thm paities who were discontent with their wages , if w
fally discontented , — " 1 approve jonr remaiciug oBtof work nntil the Charter shall become the Uw of the laad . " He would novr aak to carry back tbe recoflec . ttons of the Jury for a a&oment to what was ffi&roo . dition of the country , from the beginning of Jidy D n to the- end of August . Is different parts of tbeebobtar there were thousands of persons out , t . f woifc Ife believed they had it ia evidence that some of the& parties sould not «; et into work again , —that trhet&r it was trte or false of macy ., it certainly was tra& of one or two millownei 8 , that they intended to close their works fora month , and they wonld not take into tfeeir employmeat the men who applhed for work . The Jm * would ffnd that there was no great disapproval oatte / part of the shopkeepers of thoag parties who wereon )
the strike , bni they would find t&afe they were tangfit to believe tha * It would be a good thing for them , as well as for the working classes * themselves , if t& » Charter could be constitutionally enacted , and , there fore , those parsons -who -were Caaxtists—he wainpt now defending their internperaaes- ^ sought to accomplish that object , and from the very- moment at whicb they first found Ws client in the field , they wouldfind that all he asked for was a fair daj's-wage forabit day's work , ami until they con ) d obtsin that to remain out of work . He { Mr . Dundas ) mainfeiaed that ttli was perfectly legal ; But although the views of boob of these men on Charthm were so very strong , what happened ? It was & most astonishing thing , tfeat so muy persons should beinao many different parts of tie
comtry , should be under no particular leader , bnt undo some benign infiuenee which he supped muatbe called a lovo of peace , law , and ord r , ""tiionga Uwy bsoke peace here , and- did not keep orderthare , —yet generally under some such influence , they-wen oat id ^ ork for many and many a day , they congregated in great nambers without doing any gre 3 t violaaca to person' or property . His Beamed Friend , th&- Attoniey-General , had given his full admiration to t £ & 38 partiar , auiih © ( Mr . Dandas ) firnriy believed that tbiaxauWnot have happened in any other country , thatthonsaodaof persona should be in the -greatest necessity , sad-jek'ds no aot of violence to life , and that acts * rf vio lence , committed for t&eir own 'perscsal gaia , weffi-s . tmost nothing at &H— -when tbey eaw tto ) be
repeated that it was a most surprising and artoafah int ; thing , and be could no £ help WandariEg' at the conduct of those men , vho \ under no gnidanes Bst tbat of " peace , law , and order , " which ihe AUdaaj-General bad said were words only pat iato ^ tisefr mouths—that this large body of men should * bsn beea so I 0 E 3 on the face of the -country , and no tMohx , or scarcely any , offered to the life , limb , or property of any individual . Howe 7 » r , the people got- into Manchester , and he would take the Jury from- the > time when Manchester waa 2 rst spoken of on the 9 & of August , when a great meeting wsBheld at tefeton * and whert the people were ' going into Mant&wter , where there was to be a meeting of delegates . Wtoafc was th » ' evidence on this part of the tranBa « tion ?
Where were tho people to go to ? Wby , they . ; had the evidence of Turner to shew that Pilling , oneK ) f-th » defendants ; had said that fee wished to go with- 'tbebody of- the people , to rssefc tha masters , as * tb » masters woidd not meet theasi to obtain a feir day ' swage for a fciir day ' s work , and not to be satisfied ' until they get the Charter . Some mills were stopped * , but no farther damage was done by this large body ^ ho marched into Winchester . Before this time , ther&ooald be no doebfc that the Chartist * intended to have <» great messing , in Manchester , on the 16 tb . or iytn . of August , on- several grounds . - Fust , there had beeo some falling out in the body , and they thought it deniable to have a meeting of delegates , so that they should in some-way or other , settle these things among > . tfa « mfor had
aelves , to , take their organ ' -ti ^ oa * ( they a * i « hfe to be organized , if they kept the peace ) into consideration , in order to see whetfeor- it required alteiatfoa , Secondlji- those persons wct » to meet as delegates / were to ^ elsbrate the 16 th of . iingaet , the daywben . Mr ^ Hunfs 3 » nnment was to be fwily . opened to the P ^ - Well , Mr . Srooke was appointed a delegate to tntt > Confexeaoa . Was there an ^ hing illegal in th »? * J » apprehended that there waa none whatever . : Jfl 6 fl ™' notice they bad of his client , waa- the evidence . eMtf * having been-seen at the Coeference , at Manchester , ^* the irth of August , in Mr . Sohelefield ' s ctopel ^ M they toofcth * evidence of GAitledge and GnfM , pota of whoa * had been put forward on the other saw aspaniea-wh © must know Uie * trttai , they weula ana
that that Coofereuce was wholly irrespective ol ^ f turn out in . different parts-of-the country . 1 ber » could b » no doubt that for weeJts and weeks tas&wa * forenca" had been originated before the stnta-too * place , Gattledge bad said ; that he WM * delegate- at the meeting . 3 nd that he did not ^ tend to . do anything illegal , bot that on the ca * trary , the Conference was set" to consider tne ^ t ' a ? itataon , and the celebration , of the opening 0 ! Bubit * monoaient . They had tha-evidence of GriffiU »»» s » nja ; fact , that the meetisg . of dtlegateswas proj ? fl » a befora-tb , e-strike , and he b * d stated the ofejeew ot u » Cor ^ erence to be the sains . . Bafc was Mr . Huattj |» meataieasonable thing that the delegates sbouW aa » uauuj' . % m > vunvuMviw w *** w ^ •*«*•» . w »« v » - »^— o . * _••
at Manohescer on the 16 ih / of August , or was-it only » exceoe fot their being thsre ?> Why , they b 3 ^ " 1 ' 6 ?! deaea o £ moat respectable , parties to shew . tbflS wr yeoia paaj there bad beaaaa asHemblsge . o&tDP pe ° P at Manchester op that 6 ay » . Mr . M'Mullin , »* * P ? : tor . of Ptolice , had ses » these assemblagas-taat w *> yaoi before last he witaessed an assemblag * 0 ! _ Aw « parflona in honour of tiie memory of Ma Hw > i » ° % M on the last 16 th c ^ iAingust , a similar asan « festa »^ wasintended . But was-Uiis gathering to be . tho ^^ - of-breaking up all tbeJeadiug interests « fiIan 5 ^^ iu order to brinst about the enactment of * he CB »^ aad ttiaa to upset ths-aovemment ? Nof& £# a ? w ! T ^ - , ment of the processiaa . was placarded alkoyer « a » " « ° ; . f a » F n » fl them arnaa tSt . rf-ritB : Wh » t wasdone C «"*» ,
ifctoe peopiebad desired tooverturn th aXIonstjt « u i > n » "k break the peace , «» . t » ipMt the civti . gP ^ 118160 ; ? Maachester , as was : alleged by the Learned ^^ fr :. ^ tha other side , would , fc have been beliwed "J *" ™^ th * excitement whici prevailed , thoyjissoedia piawro y giving the people-ta understand tnat . the mo ? nI vS >' would not be opened on the 16 th of < Ap # e * i j ? rs 4 hat any breach , of the peace shsuld occur » W * T ' 15 t ^ of Augu& , there caiae oxsb an awioun « nww » stating that ia consequence of the , uneas * e ' ^ T ment occasioEed by tha turn-ouk for waggSj the Pf ^ rT aion in honoajsof Mr . Hunt's monument would B 0 »^ place . That was a reasonable aaaouncement , wnlcn i" » anthoritiea saw . with their aimeyea , sBdif " ^" L . any meaning ; in language , it ranst b » taken J"f * T 7 , placard waa issued by the Csartist body , andintai ^ by them to keep tne ptaca aad , to prwaote order in ia » part of her Majesty ' s doroinlons . Naw , some ol ^ parties , who had a right to-talk about their wages , e * - dubtedt themselves in a very , tumultuous manne *" still t& » meeting of delegates took phce . Bto 0 ** ^ e ^ appoiated delegate f-r Todmorden , and be we ° 11 lfl ' - meea » g of Canferense , What happened ? «¦ ( Continv £ & : in our first page .
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Northern Star (1837-1852), March 11, 1843, page 8, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1203/page/8/
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