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      HOUSE OF LQRDS-FrWay , July 22 . ILoid "Brq-cgham laid npon the table two BUh , laving for thtir orject to improve the law of Bankruptcy an 3 to facilitate arrangements between debtor and creditor . Tie Bills were read a first time , and Lord Lyndhnrst ' s me ? -surb apon the same subject , as well as the Csunty Court's Bill , having beea passed through Committee , their Lordships adjonmeci . Monday , July 25 . Ir-rd "WHAiCJcriTFE intisiated in reply to the Bishop of l ^ adon , tiiat it Tras the 1-tention Of Government to establish normal schorls , without any specific religieus education , for th- _ i who wera to become themselves tbs teachers of schools . In the distribution of the grant , lbs Government would follow the plan laid down by their predecessors . On the motion for the re-committal of the Mines and Collieries Bill ,

      Lord Bbougham iEcnlcattd great caution in the application of the principle of interfering 'with the rishts of ' aboor . He admitted that the Legislature might intafoe with the employment of children in occupations irjorieua to their constitutions , but was jealous of interference with the oocnpation of adults . ts the principle adopted in tbe present bill might be extended to other occupations , such as that of pin and net £ ! e-ni : ik'iL 3 , & ; . Ths Marqals of Xo ^ doxdebsy hailed tie snpport of Lord TJnngham In opposition to lid BUI , as oiher"wbe he tad stood alone , having been thrown overhoar . i iy Lord Hatherton . He moved that the Bill be referrei to a select comniittte . jafter a short diseasiion , the recommittal of the Bill was carried by . 49 to 3 . The B ; I 1 was then recommitted , and

      LirdSKELHERSDAJUE sored tbat women above forty year . 3 of age at present working in collieries should still be permitted to do so . After considerable discussion , this was rejected by 29 to 35 . - - - Ths Eirl of MovMCiSHEL proposed to raise the limitation age of children from ten to twelve yeaxs . - This was negatived without a division . Ths Bill , a-ttr some further discussion , went through committee , and the Hous 9 adjourned .

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      HOUSE OP COMMONS , Friday , July 22 . Thv Cc = toms Act Amendment Bill was wad ' a third time -ud rass ^ d ; as was als o the Exchequer Bill s Preparation Bi : L Sir J . GSAUiii moved thai the Poor Law Amendment Bill be now read a third t meilr . Pjei . de > " gave notice , that on the question that the Biii do pass , he should move as an amendment that it be printed , ia order that Hon . ilembers might know what it .-octained . He believed that cot five Members kLeTT what its provisions were .

      Sir . 3 . C ^ . i . "WFOB . D Mid this Bill -was utterly barren of zt > y pr ^ Tisfins for the relief of the poor from the oppressive working of the present law ; its only fcfUct ¦ weaid te to continues the Commission for Eve years Io 2 ^; r . The qaesticn was then , would the House c&nssnt to a Bill with rach an object , in the face of all the oyce&ns brousbt r . gaitsi tbe arbitrary character and prccicdlnrs jI ihu Comm ~ u > - Eers I He would remind the Hcu ^ e , ihit to those o : jecticn 3 no satisfactory an 5 «» er fcsd ever i > een given . The Commissioners , it Wd 3 prove-3 , tad bscn gniity of the unnecessary and nnreusoiiible forcir . E of tbe ic-door t&st in cases where

      It was clearly sbsard to attempt this—where there was insufficient scccminodatkn for the poor , and they could not be relieved in tbe Hcuss . The next charge against them -was for obstinat&ly directing the use of nntvholeiome or inadeqaste dkt for the psapers , and commanding it to be continued , although thty fenew that it procured G ; seosa The facts brought forward to scppcrt th : s 5 charges had ntn ? been disproved , and the charges accordingly remained in fall force . The next ch ^ Ti's r-gainst the Commissioners was , that they ptrmisted extraordinary and excessive punishments—that -sr ^ s act denied . Another charge wss that the tales of the Commissioners Effecting s ^ fcd persons were inhiitnan and cruel ; the aged and infirm were put nnder ths same roof with the able-bodied , and kept

      in such a condition that life could not bs snstamed . He challenged any Hon . llembcr who supported the Bill to ihow that these charges were false ; the only answer to them Wis _ . that such things had been dons in other pluces and r . t a former time , but that was no justification of the present conduct of the Coinmis-Eontij . Another strong ohjsclion to = he Bill was , that it gave no poorer of appeal to she poor man against the acts of the Gaardians or Commissioners . Again , the distance of the poor from the workhonse was generally so grrat , that it was impossible for them to make their wan : ? hnovrn . The House was now asked to renew ths Coiaiio ^ sion for five years , under a promise from G-r ? ei"csent that they wonlJ istrodace a remedial Bill Sest Scasioa . That was & pledce on ¦ which bo

      reliancs cssla be placed , & 3 iis fulnliceiit entirely deposed oa circamstances . After the conduct of I IiEi ; ter 5 , in dividing the Bill , and taking only the clauses LiTecting the Cose mission , in the far * of their asa ^ rarrtTa xcat it mast be passed eniira , how could the Hou 2 s reiy oh the pledge now given to bring in a e-w BUJ ia tbe next Sefjion , when the Intentions of Gaveinss-int might be defeated ? If this . Bill passed , Ts-preseststica Tronld be a hembug . Tiiej . ^ eard Dinch in rscerrt t ! ec 3 te 3 of the distress prevailing in the < joautry , si : d it' was fit" that the House should properly inv ? st % it ? tfe . t snbjeci . The grsatest relief , however , wiuch could be administered , si least to these who most it qoired it , would . , he -a-as convinced , ba afforded

      thrown s humane and twsntible Poor Law ; but he was soiry to Had that those -who talked most loudiy of the prevailing distress were supporters of tbe prpjmnt B 51 . Ha implcred ilenibcrs to break Uieir siienee , and tell tbe C 3 nn £ ry wiiat tht-y meant to do to relieve the 2 gon z " ag distress \ vhich in some parts existed in liclsid . He fiia not Fptsk on * hi < : Entjsct with any th : ng like pirty idling ; he did not txpect that a large nmnbtr w&nld sappors the motion he was about to make ; but he was not ashamed to appear in a small sxitciity on tfcia question . At all events , he wculd rather glory in being in a small minority snpportu > g the righ ' -S of J ^ e pwt , than in the largest majority against them- { near . ) He beggta now to move , that the Bui ba read s third time that day three months .

      M-. Fielded seconded ths mcti « n . The Hon . Member then rsi-I the letter , which was to the following effect : —Tte writer stated , — " 1 have jiiit read , with astonishment , Sir James Graham ' s btitement relative to tha beneficial effect of tLe ISew Poor iawin raral districts . The firt is , that the Cam Law snd tbe Poor Law together have reduced tens of tnonsinds of field labourers in the rural districts to a sive of a ^ jret slavery , Btarvstion , and nakedness . It is re ^ L'y heartrending in thia once fl-sarishiag , but now ssffiring conalry , to fc&ar its rulers , who profess to be the f mrdiaPS of cur peace , comforts , and

      prosperity , ta . fe like Sir Jame 3 G .-aham , in the facs of so many izcis , trLieh declare that the Seid labourers at this Uiom ^ iit are starring for want cf -woTk . " TVtien tte Poor 1 ^ 3 VTiS istlOiIns ^ A there -s-as a dause in it enaCicg teat oa :- ; ioor r = litf should be refused to ableb-iaica Btn * ft-T tbs 31 s : of July , 1535 ; bat this cb . ^ ie wes w ; ih ; 1 rai ? n . Kow , he asked , why did not the Gvvfcrnm ^ nt , do what they got the Commissioners to do ? This- ^ a 3 a co ^ rardlT oars e ef proceeding . He did not esptet his opp ' .-ii-. i- ^ i ij the Bill to be successful . Neariy iui the Liberal und Cu ^ servativo MembcTa wculd vote f-Jr the third rtading . Sriii he wjuid diBcbarge tt 3 CU' . V , Tie COndUit . Of that ilinsfi -k-hj ; or ) nr *> jfsi-ro no v-u . i . a ~>^ Liuuu . ^ ul tuiiL iiuus& vfos ODpreeSiTe

      _ to i £ a yoor . Thby pasiei la-ss to icuks food dearer , and th . ee they piijfci t . ti : = r Aws to rtduca the rate cf Wiurea If lhi-y taoa ^ ht ths labourers of the country ¦ would te : this , they -wtie mistaken . He had been ¦^ ar : in ? ' . hem fu ? tea years of tbe si preach of di £ tr ££ 3 ; tnd now that ci ^ treis had com ? . Hs wc-Tild now endfc ^ votir to imprt-as en the Eiiads o' the G-ovem ^ ent what crast be tee CD 2 SC-qasnc 3 of continuing the commission fir Jive or Six ^ eara . Ths labouring men of Ea § and hoped yshia a C ; ms--r 7 . ati 7 a O-orsrDoienb cams iafcj powtr it "BC = uW act on C ^ iusivativeprinciples , and that "wiieii cosr . W . vu wonlii bs t-etteied . Tfley had been disappointed , and a fetdijy cf revenge was springing np in trstir , besoma , aca ¦ Wva'A ba msjiife 3 ted in a way "vrfiicii all wcala hs . ve to deplora , ilr . Scmz couid r- / . conceivs how a Bill snch as this &inie to be &appsrted by so macy of the Libsaral parry .

      iir . Fwashleigh condesnefi the Bill for the hardship wiUi TTuich it prised u > on insn with large fac'IIts iir . Escoxr w :-uld not oppose the third readin * . A great point iiatl b&ea gciced in tee decLiratian of the Hoaie S ± ; ttULiy , that the tsplanatory letttr of the G 3 mmiss " : onfcr 3 was not to be taken il 3 a binding order . Mr . Agliobt would vote ajtaiast the third reading , by rtas ^ j of the clause which continu&d the CommiEiian fv-r Ste years . He bagged to be nncerstcod £ 3 not Concurring ia tie strong iicguage used bj 3 Ir . Fitl ^ tL Csptiiia Peghfll Esid that hs triumphed in the rsspiie of tecs Gabcit UnioES . In answer to a question ffoni Mr . R . Yorka .

      Sir J . GajLHiM rtpratei his conviction of the necessity for a ctutral authority . -Parochial administration without appeal was recommended by no one ; and , even vr . fi appeal , it had bstn productive of so many evils . : is to caaptl the iaterposition of the Legislature . It waa coa . plained that theie lay no appeal from the Bsard of Gaardiaas ; but a representation mads to the Cemmits oo- _ rs cf any m&tter in which the Gaardians hail mJEc&rried wonid hardly fail to " induce some remedy . Hicving himself slated in round , numbers , that where 200 , 0 tO people had been relieved in tbe workhouses ,

      more than 1 , 000 , 000 had been relieved at home , he had sinea . been asked to specify the proportion of the ablebodied persona . Ttis number of those islived doting ttu . quarter ending Lady-day , 1840 , in the ¦ wotkhoaaee , -was undtr 50 , 000 ; at their own homes , 205 , 000 , During the can-espooding quarter cf 1841 , the namber relieved intbe workhouses was 65 . 596 ; at their homes , 280 , 150 ; Tte system , then , which had been condemned as & cruel and iron sjtfcm was , in truth , a plastic and humane one ; sad he earnestly recommended to the House to sanction it by Each a majority as should mark their eon-Ticlion < it its 03-efulness . .

      Mr . O'COSKELLS main objection was against the continuance of the Commission " to 1 S 47 . In Ireland there were Commissioners having a political bias , which

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      had increased their unpopularity ; and he would bring that branch of tfae subject before tie House early in the next Session . Captain Bekselet approved of the BUL Colontl Sibtuorp thought the Bill might be less objectionable if the Assistant-Commissioners were abolished , and the discretion of tke Guardians enlarged . General Johxson was at a less to know the real tenour of the Bill , -which wais dismantled of a majority of its clauses in committee , and hid not bean printed since . The House then

      divided—For the third reading .. 103 Against it , , 30 Majority for the Bill .. - ? 3 Sir T . Aciand moved a clause authorising guardians to appoint local committees for receiving the applications of the poor in parishes at a distance from the meeting-place of the board of guardians . Sir C- Napiee seconded the motion . Several other Members concurred in recommending Sir T . Acland ' a clause to the House . Tbe clause was then agreed to ; but , on the question " that the Bill do pass , " Mr . Fielden took another division in which he was unsuccessful .

      On the motion for going into Committee , of Supply , Mr . Gibson moved , as an amendment , that the House should go into Committee to consider the distress of the country . He endeavoured to justify himself in this repetition of impediment to the Supply by referring to constitutional practice , and by professing bis belief that Ministers themselves were not yet sufficiently a-rore of tbe extent of tbe distress . It bad been said tb % t the proportion of uninhabited houses had not increased ; but the houses were inhabited by persons who coald not pay tbtir rents . The late increase in the consumption of sugar , which had been cited as evidence cf an improvement , showed only that the measure of the late Government respecting sugar was one which wonld have benefited the country . He then read a

      variety of reports from Manchester , which he regarded as affording accurate samples of tbe general state of tha manufacturing districts . He went through the trades pf the grocer , the butcher , the draper , and the corn and flour dealer ; observing that , their condition was a fair criterion of the condition of the working classes around them . The persons best competent to judge saw no prorptct of improvement . There might be variations ; th ° e fever nvght be intermittent ; but it constituted a permanent disease . It was one which had been long predicted , particularly by the Manchester Chamber of Commerce , in a petition pressing for the removal of all import duties on food . That representation wa 3 made in 183 S . and had been repeated in every subsequent xtar ; and the like opinions had been expressed by the

      Liverpool BroLers' Association , which was not , like the Manchester Chamber of Commerce a body maintaining Radical politics . The only remedy was the free admission of food ; and whatever ills might be feared by some from that measure , tbey could hardly be worse than the ills already endured . The restrictive laws prevented that demand which a free exchange would have created for manufactures , and which would have o . v -viated any disadvantage supposed to mu . t from machinery . The increased consumption of cotton waa no evidence that employment and wages had increased ; ncr was the erection of a new mill or two a proof that ntarufictaring industry was on the advance . He pretested aeainst the doctrine of those * who thought it politic to repress manufactures , lest the towns should breed a population dangen us to our institutions . This , ia other words , was to affirm that the manufacturers

      cuf > it to be starved down to a certain point . Yet such , he sai .-t , was the theory now promulgated even from the pulpit ; and to that effect he quoted a sermon of the Rev . Mr . Melville . He then contend that all these wtra bat attempts to keep the farmers in the dark : tbat the repeal of tbe Corn Laws was known by its supporters to be not far distant ; and that the honest course would fee to Bay so at once to the farmers , and bid " them prepare far competition . The present wa 3 the fittest possible time for the investigation of the existing distress : the pressing business of legislation -was all dirposed of , and a series of preliminary discussions had prepared the minds of the House fpr the subject . The coming h&Tvest did not proiniss to reach an average , and oven an average harvest did not come ap to our wants . There couM le found no argument against his proposed Committee , except personal convenience or an insane disregard of an instant danger .

      Dr . BCWK . ISG referred to the declarations of political , parties in America , as showing that the hostile feelings of tbat country against England were generated by the laws which exclude American produce . Ha seconded Mr . Gibson ' s motion . Sir J Easthope expressed his sympathy for the suffering population . He guve credit to Ministers for believing that they had done all in their power ; but unless something more were effected , the people would cease t 8 rely apon the House of Commons .

      5 ir . Hcme contended for ilr . Gibson ' s motion . The agriculturists tfcemsvlvea would support it if they understood their own real interest . The landlords "Wifre much mistaken if they thought their estates were their own ; tbe paupers had tbe first claim , and the clergy the next He was desirous of an examination into the causes of distress , and he believed our extravagant expenditure would be found to be one of them . The only practical relief would be by at once applying the principles if free trade to all articles of general ecm&umDtion .

      Mr . Villiebs complained of the silence of the Ministerial party , which he imputed to their consciousness of the weakness of their cause . All their promises and professions had broken down , and been falsified . Public epinion was with them no longer ; tbe working classes ¦ were now awakened to a sense of the fraud which had bsen practised on the nation , and the rent-rectivera had lost their power . Tbe Opposition , might fee censured fur tneir pertinacity in these debates ; but their justification was , that every fresh discussion produced some fresh advantage . His own objects , were to Bee the people wtil fed snd well educated , and then tbey might ba safely trusted with political power ; but the first consideration was , that " they should be physically well off . Mr . Muxtz felt it is duty to say a few words , lest it ahoald be inferred from his silence that his own

      constituents were in a state of comfort . T . ke present , however , wia not a fit season for inquiry ; the minds of men en all sides were as yet too much inflamed for any calm examination . Mr . Cobdes addressed tbe House upon the main question . He denounced the landlords as hypocrites in affecting that th&y maintained the present Corn Law for the sake of the rural labourers , when the rural Jabonrera -were actnally in a condition little better than that of ths mannfactarers themselves . When Sir Robert Peel was told that things were improving , he was

      deceived by parasites . It was in the power of the Legislatare even now to arrest the high tariff of America , by a simple declaration that the ports of England were open to American corn . There had been a political justice in tbe progress of this session . Tbey bsgan witb a law to make tbe people eat dear bread , and tbey ended with a Poor Ii » , upon ¦ which their own frisnds were bactsliders from thtm . II , as some said , sir it Peel iEtendffl to carry oat the principles of free trade , there could be no _ fi : ter season tban the present ; he might sst at defiance tfca bigotted sscti ^ n of his own followers : but there was no time to be lost .

      The House thsn divided on Mr . Gibson ' s motion , which W 2 s ne 22 . tived by a majority of 92 ; the numb&rs being 156 to 64 . - Tbe House then rasolved itself into a Committee of Supply , bat it being now past two o " cloch , one-Tote onfy was taken , and the House resumed . —Adjourned .

      Monday , July 25 . Tn reply to a question asked on Friday night "by Lord P-ilmerston , it was intimated by Sir Robert Peel , that a supplementary grant of £ 10 , 000 is to be proposed , in addition to the usual education grant cf £ 30 , 000 . Sir Jasfs G-baham , in rtpJy to Mr . Ewart , fa ! d that GavexBineni were . cot prepared to substitute anothfci punishment for that of transportation .

      CHARTISTS A * ND MAGISTRATES OF STAFFORDSHIRE . Mr . T . Dcs combe rose to renew the motion of which he had given notice some time ago , and which he had postponed at tbe rtqac-sc of the Hon . Member for Sufford and the Secretary cf St'ite for the Home Department . The observations cf the Right Hon . Baronet on ttat occasion bad beea read with much astonishment and surprise by the persons interested in the fate &f the uniiappy msnwlo were now suffering in Stafford Goal . The trial took place on the 2 nd of the present month , and they were immediately sent to prison . A petition and memorial were immediately forwaried to the Hcme Office on tbe 13 th , and on the ICth a reply vas received which purported to be written by the

      direction of the Home Secretary ; and yet wben questioned upon the sabject in the House , the Riahfe Hon . Baronet said lie had never received any memorial , and , of course , had caused no reply to be written to it Considering ihat the present Government never made mistakes , never stumbled over stones , or fell into puddles , this contradiction certainly appeared very extraordinary . It wuuld seem that the bnsiBess of the public departments was not conducted in a more ¦ accurate manner under the present than it was under the late Government Jf Lord Normanby had happened to have made the declaration which the Right Honourable Baronet had done with respect to this transaction , tbe public would not have heard the last of it for some time . ( Hear , hear , bear . ) The question which he was about to bring under the

      consideration of the House was one of a serious nature It involved the sacred right of the people to meet pc aceably in public to iisctus public giievancea . if it should appear that that rigltf bad teen violated by tha magistrate * of Staffordshire , Ito lisped the Honse would aid him in obtaining from the Government tbat information for which be was sow about to move . It appeared a report had gone abroad tbat a statement hid been made by some magistrates in Sedgeley , that if a Chartist dared to . show his face in the town , be should be ' immediately arrested . Mr . Mason , a Chartist lecturer , however , thinking tbat tbe magistrates bad so right to make such a statement , determined on holding a meeting in Sedgeley . He had proceeded about ten minutes in his lecture , when he waa interrupted by a constable of the name of Benmn ( as 'we understood ) who , it should be observed , was tbe only witness wbo

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      appeared on tbe trial against tbe prisoners . And what , after all , was the language to which the constable deposed ? According to his aecount , Mason waa telling the people , and telling them , as be ( Mr . Doncombe ) believed , truly that the lawa of this country were made by the aristocracy—that the people had no voice in the election of their representatives—that the laws which were to be obeyed by all should be made by all , and consented to by all ; that the individuals in this country who worked the hardest received the least ; and that those who worked the least received the most The constable tbsn interrupted the lecturer , saying that he could stand that no longer ; that be should do something for bis pay ; tbat MaSOU Was using seditious language ; and that it would be his duty

      to break up the meeting . Mason told the constable tbat he haa no business to interrupt him ; that his only business would be to go before the magistrate and lodge infoimation against him , which might be tried on a future day . Tbe constable persisted in patting an end to the meeting ; he took bold of tke bench on which Mason was standing , and tilted up the lecturer—( a laugh . ) Tbe people interposed , but finally Bem ' an carried off the bench . No breach of the peace was committed , except by the constable . Mr . Mason took out a warrant against the constable , upon which tbe constable took out another against Mason , and caused him to be apprehended . Tha magistrates committed Mason for trial , and dismissed the charge against the constable . Mr . Mason and seven others were committed for

      attending an unlawful meeting , and for assault . The meeting waa one -which no lawyer would call unlawful or illegal . It was perfectly peacsable till interrupted by the constable . These poor working men were committed on a charge of unlawfully meeting , and on a charge of riot and assault AH tha charges against them , except for unlawfully meeting , had subsequently vanished , and he ( Mr . Duncombe ) denied that for even that part of the charge there was any good ground . They had not come with arms , or with . banners , or in anything like military array , nor was the meeting accompanied by any circumstance that could constitute it ao unlawfnl assembly . [ Here the proceedings were interrupted by tbe nomination of some Honourable Members to accompany Mr . Greene , as managers of a conference with

      the Lords , on the Wicklow Harbour Bill . On their return , Mr . Greene reported that they had delivered in their reasons for disagreeing to the amendments to the bill . "Mr . T . Duncombe then resumed ] He had been going to say when be was interrupted , tbat Mason and the others bad not been guilty of using Beditiotw language ; but that even if they had been guilty , the constable would not have been justified in interrupting them . Mason had been found guilty of attending an unlawful meeting ; tbe others had been found guilty of a common assault . He ( Mr . Duncombe ) complained of the arrest ; he complained of the circumstances that bad taken place at the trial ; and he complained of the sentence that had been passed . The constable had evidently a dislike to Mason , and yet the

      Chairman in passing sentence gave one man two months ' imprisonment , another man four , and another six months' imprisonment , according to the dictum of the constable . If guilty , they were all equally guilty , and in awarding punishment to refer to a partial witness could not be fair . Tnese men were now prisoners in Stafford goal , after having been sacrificed to the party spite of tb& magistrates , and in the present state of feeling in Staffordshire such treatment , he contended , of the working classes was anything but prudent . When they coupled such occurrences with what had lately occurred in Ireland , the psople naturally rsketi , were they returning to the days of Caatlereagh ? He ( Mr . Duncomb 6 ) maintained that the people had a right to meet and discuss what they deemed to be grievances , and this prosecution , instituted by the

      ruagistraces , was disgraceful to the county of Stafford . He did not believe that any judge of asafga would have found these unhappy men guilty , and it would therefore be better if the power of magistrates to try such offences at quarter sessions were taken away . It was too late in the session to ask for a committee of inquiry to investigate these charges , but he would endeavour to obtain the best information within his reach . The Hon . Member , concluded by moving for copies of tbe depositions upon which J . Mason , a Cbartlst lesturer , Thomas Ciswell , and six others were committed for trial at the late Midsummer sessions for the county of Stafford ^ together with copies of tbe indictment , or indictments , and the names and addresses of the magistrates and jury before whom they were tried . Mr . Hume seconded the motion .

      Sir X GRAHAM said he owed some explanation to the Honourable Gtntleman ( Mr . Duncombe ) and to the House for what had occurred on a former occasion , when tuts subject was introduced . He < Sir J . Graham ) did not wian to a-van himself of any subterfuge ; but , when it was considered , that in the course of the year , about 4 , 000 cases connected \» ith the criminal administration passed through bis bands , aouod to wblcb , at this period of the year , he had to spend about ten hours of the day in that House , he thought there was some excuse for him if he was not always able to recollect the ciTcm&tances of eacb CM 0 V » ben referred to . Thocise came before him in the shape of a memorial ; but tbe memorial was indorsed , not " John Mason , " but" Thomas Caswell : " arid this circumbtancehad led to his

      mistake . LookiDg at ail the circumstance of tho «« oc , bo . ( Sir James Graham ) tbougut tne Honourable Gentleman ¦ was taking a strange utep , when he attempted to constitute that House a court of appeal against the verdict of a jury . He ( Sir Junes Graham ) would not attempt to enter on the details of this subject upon an eapaile statement ; but when the Honourable Gentleman said that the constable had exceeded his duty , be ( Sir James Graham ) must say he had still to learnt that a constable bearing at a public met ting , iangnnge calculated to lead to a breach of tbe peace , was not entitled to arrest the person bo offending . Of course the constable would do so on his own responsibility—( hear , hear , hear , from Mr . Hawes ) . At all events , the question had been submitted to a jury , aud tbe Hon .

      Gentleman would surely not say that it -was not competent for twelve men empannelled as a jury , to bring in a verdict on a question of thia kind . The chairman who presided on the occasion , had held hiB office fur twelve yeais , was a man of acknowledged skill and txperience , and was a member of the legal profession . Tbe Right Hon . Baronet then proceeded to read a statement from the gentleman in question , who stated that for more tban seven years he had attended no political meeting , or had ever , in public , given expression to any political opinion . Nor had he ever heard any political discussion among the magistrates when they attended the quarter sessions . He ( Sir James Graham ) could add that the chairman bore a high character for impartiality , and the language of Mason was undoubtedly

      of a most exciting kind . The prosecution was ordered by the magistrates . There were four counts in the indictment . Tae first was for riot , the second for unlawfuily assembling , and the third and fourth for different degrees of assault The jury returned a verdict against one of tbe defendants on the second count , and against the other saven for an assault , and the chairman did only what was light in imposing the heaviest pniiishrnent upi » n Mason . The Hon . Gentleman asked whether the time had arrived when it W 88 not lawful for the people to meet in a peaceful and lawful manner ? God forbid ! but the question was , had these people met in a lawful manner ? Had they met in a peaceful manner ? and in return he wonld ask ha > S they arrived at the time when that House would review the verdict of

      a jary v ; hose verdict could not be impngned ?—( htar , hear . ) The only semblance of doubt on on this point bad since been retractfcd by tbe Honourable Gentleman himself , it had been implied that ttitre were grounds f- > r suspecting the chairman of tampering with the jury . The fact was this . The trial lasted from nine o ' clock in tbe morning till four o'clock in tho afternoon . The chairman , before summing up , begged leave to retire for two or three minutes , and the jury ' applied for a simiiar indul * er . ce . The jury ltic the conrt under chYrge of a constable , but by mistake went into the same pasaage as tbe chairman , who simply put them right &s to where they should go . He ( Sir J . Graham ) contended it was in all respects a fair , honest , and impartial trial , aD < i deprecated tbe constituting of that House into a court of appeal . He should oppose

      the motion . Mr . E . Buller corroborated the statement that the jurymen who retired were in charge of the proper omcer , and the chairman had no communication with them further than had been stated ; and bore testimony to the accuracy of the written statement quoted by the Riant Hon . Baronet . The chairman was a gentleman of much legal knowledge clear perception , and sound judgment , and he ( Mr . E . Bnller ) fcnew no one upon whoso impartiality he would place a greater reliance . Mr . Aglio > "by knew nothing : of the parties cencerntd , or of their political opinions , and was therefore not prepared to give any opinion on the facts of the case . His object in rising was to express his dissent from the doctrine of the : Right Hon . Baronet

      He ( Mr . Aglionby ) thought that in a constitutional point of viuw that House ought to be the supreme Court of Appeal in cases in which the liberty of the subjtct was concerned . He did not Say that motions siiouid be brought forward upon every light and frivolous occasion ; but in cases of grave doubt and suspicion the riabt ought to exercised . He did not understand the Right Hon . Baronet to say that there had been any breach of tbe peace Until after the interference of the constable . It appeared tbat certain langfiage had been used which the constable choose to consider constituted an unlawful meeting . He ( Mr . Aelionby ) did

      not aeree with the Right Hon . Gentleman's definition of an unlawful meeting . He ( Mt . Aglionby ) believed an unlawful assembly to b « a umting held for the purpose of carrying out that which , if carried out , would not be lawful . He denied that tke constable ought to be constituted a judge of what constituted an unlawful meeting . There must be something calculated to Impress ever ; one with the belief that a breach of the peace was aboitt to be committed . He BhOttM jnpport the motion of the Hon . Member for FiUBDUiy With tike greatest pleasure , and whenever be observed « -case of the kind that was not light and frivol « uB , he should assume tbe right of the House to be a couit of appeal .

      Mr . Hawes hoped the law officers of tbe Crown wonld stand up In their places , and protest against the unconstitutional doctrine of the Right Hon . Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home Department . He ( Mr . Hawes } knew nothing about the case , but when it was said tb&t a constable ebould be a judge whether a meeting was wditions or not— ¦;¦ . ¦; . ., -. ' ¦ ¦ * - . . .- ¦ .- , ¦; - ¦ Sir James Graham—It may save the Honourable Member some trouble if I now observe that I did not g ay the constable "¦» as justified , bnl tbat fc « did it at Ms

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      own risk . The constable observing tumult at a meeting which in his judgment would lead to a breach of the peace , was justified at hia own peril ia apprehending the . parties . - ,. : ; .: ; ¦ . ¦ ¦/; ¦ ¦ ' , ; - : ' > . / : ' y- ^ O ' - ..- ' . ' - ¦ ¦ '¦ - . ' \' . ' .- -V Mr . Hawbs never dreamed of saying thai tbe codstable waa exempt from > responsibility , but protested against the doctrine that the constable was to be the judge . He had understood the Right Honourable Baronet to say that the constable was now justified by the verdict of the jury . Since the dayB of the circular of Lord Sidmouth he had not heard of a more

      invidious attempt to put down public discussion tban the doctiine now held by the Home Secretary ; .. Lord Sidinouth ' s circular bad been scouted throughout the whole country , and He ( Mr . Hawes ) hoped the opinion of the Right Honourable Baronet would meet with a similar condemnation . There waB a long debate on Lsrd Sidmouth ' 8 circular , in which Lord Holland and otber Liberal authorities had held that , although it might be true tbat offenders might escape by the constable not having sufficient power , yet it was better that should bo the case tban that he should be armed be with a judicial authority . .

      The Attorney-General felt it necessary to say a few words after the sort of challenge by the Honourable Gentleman to the law officers ef the Crown . If tbe papers were called for with a view . to . any- ' " -practical purpose , be should be glad to know what tbat purpose waa . If tbey were not called for with a view to cast a slur upon tbe magistrates and jury , be could not understand why they were asked for at all ( hear . ) The only paper of any importance , or for Which , there cbuld be a pretence for calling— ' although be should certainly have objected to ite production—was the notes of the chairman , and that had been abandoned ; but as to the copies of the depositions , the persons committed ; for trial bad a , right to such copies , and if there had been any thing \ in them containing matter of complaint tbey

      could have been incorporated in a petition , and brought under the notice of the Houss . ; As for the copy of the indictment , it was nothing more than a transcript of a Crown law form containing a charge of attending an unlawful meeting ; and although the prisoners might not have an office copy , yet they bad been 'furnished ' with enough to ground any complaint to that House . The next thing called for was a list of the names of the magistrates and jurymen . The names of the magistrates were appended to the commitment , and as to those of the jurymen they must have been notorious , and were called over in court . That Houise was the last .- ' assembly in which- the verdict of a jury oufitit to fee mart © tho . subject ; . ' of comment . Much bad been said as to the power of the constable

      in such an assembly . Now , whenever a constable saw anj act done ( bear , hear , ) heard any counsel given , or any language used , the immediate tendency of which was . to lead to a breach of the peace , it was bis business to watch , and tabfo care that no breach of tk » peacs should ba committed—( hear , hear)—or it might become his imperative duty at once to interfere ond prevent it . He ( the Attorney-General ) should be sorry to see any proceeding , the tendency of which was to put down public -opinion , but when be saw that ^ tke conduct of the constable , however rash , had been justified by the verdict of a jury , he did not think the House warranted in interfering . Under all circumstances he trusted tho House would decide that the case was not one in whi « h its inquisitorial power should be called into operation . - .- ¦ \ : Mr . Q'GONNELI , would recommend the Btpnourable Member for Fintibury to withdraw that part of the

      motion which called for the rianies of tho magistrates and jurymen . That part of the motion which called for the production of the dtpositions , ought , in his opinion , to be acceded to . It struck him that the parties in question bad bfeen charged with one offence , and convicted of another . The ofFdnce with which they were charged was , that' they hud been guilty of using seditious language . Their . conviction went solely upon the ground that they bad attended an unlawful meeting . He ( Mr . O'Connull ) repudiated the doctrine that an inferior officer , Fuch as a constable ,-: saouki be made the judge of . whether language was Seditious or not . The fact of the seditious ' . character of the language einployed in this instance appeared to be exceedingly questionable ; and . in drder that the House inighljba enabled to judge of it , it was requisite that the depositions should be produced . He hoped , therefdre , that the Honourable Member for Finsbury would insist upon that part of his motion .

      Sir RoiiKRt iXGLiSCoatended that no ground whatever bed been shown to warrant the interference of the House in a matter already adjudicated upon . The depositions for which the Honourable Member called had nothing whatever to do with tho trial . Mr . T . DuNcpMBKsaid he should not press for the names of the majiistrabea or jurymfcn . The Solicitor-General said , there could be nq other object to be attainud by this inotioh than to cait a censura on the magistrates aud jurymen . The Hon . ami Learned Member for Cpckermouth said that that House ought to be a court of appeal . If there were any real grievance that House was the place where it ought to be made known ; but he protested against the doctrine of that House being made a court of appeal on the

      decision of a , judge or jury in any matter , civil cr criminal—< hea * v hear ) . — «>»* H "'""" --- " ° "J lucoHipetent 10 such an objoct , and it was because this was . intended as an appeal . against the decision of the '' . hiagistrates and tbe jury that he now pl > jeCied to this inotion—( hear , hear ) . ; Upon what ground was it jnarle ? Take the petition , which , as he understookl , waa presented to the House fey tbe Hon . Member for FinsKury . The Hon . Gentleman , the Member for Finsbury Uisclaimed auy intention of bringing charges against the magistrates , the chairman ; or the jury ; he declared that be did not mean to ask for the names of the jury , or the magistrates , or the chairman , but yet what did the petition say ? It . proceeded . in these words : — " That your - / petitioners ' : ' - are fully convinced , from the proceedings connected / with / the trial , that the

      prosecutors , and the magistracy , and thu jury who were sworn to return a verdict in accordance with tho evi ; dence , were influenced more by factious iriotives than a strict regard to . t-quity .- " Now , be would ask with what view W 2 S the House of Commons called upon to agree to this motion ? It was said that there existed no intention of pronouncing censure upan either the magistrates , the chairman , or the jury then with what view was the question raised ? In order , it was said ; that an inquiry niight be Instituted ; but ho professed himself at a loss to discover how a case even for inquiry had been niade out . The Right Hon . Gentleman the Mtniber for Cork county bad told the House that he was not in possession of any information on the subject , and so had almost every Member who

      addregsed the House ; he would , therefore ,, just nrufly state , that tbe -first count in the / indictment charged tbe prisoners with having created a riot ; the second , with holding an unlawful assembly ; tho third , with assaulting a constable in the execution ofhis duty ; thefourth , with a coniinoh assault ; Upon the quosti » n of law to which this trial gave rfse the chairman prpriGunced ! a judicial opinion , and Eurely it would not now be maintained that the Hon . Member for Finsbury wished the House of Commons to pronounce a censure upon that , for , if such were bis wish , why should ho disclaim it ' ? '"'' He-said he did not complain of tho chttfrman or any one concerned , yet he presented a petition prcfcirring charges a « ainat all concerned , he got that petition printed with the vote 3 , ; ind he founded a motion upoa it . E tch of the charges in tbe petition were gone through nnd denied , and after giving up every one of the papeis which he demanded in the first

      initance , tie then nsjeed for the depo ° itions . What could the / production of tho depositions effect ? . No practical result c * uld be obtained from any papers except the chairman ' s notes ; for thoBeV however , the Honourable Member did not ask . ' If the House went into an inquiry , the depositions would be wholly immaterial . It waa fuggestod , that if the depositions were produced they would show the grounds of the committal ; but of what importance would the grounds of tho coramittal be after the question had ;; one before a grand jury ? . After they had inyeitigated the question , after thfey had found a true Bill , after tho prisoners had been tried , nay , after they bad been convicted , of what possible use could the depositions be ? ( Hear , hear . ) No ceusuto , no suspicion ever could rest upon the chairman , upon the magistrates , or upon the jury . What advantage could result from agreeing , to the motion of the' Honourable Member for Fiusbury ? ( Hear , hear . )/ ' \ / ¦ ' . - ; , ; . / ' / '

      Mr . SHETL said that his Hon . Friend the Member for Finsbury did not mean to cast any imputation upon the chnirruaiii the magistrates , orthe jury {/ Beither had the . motion which he brought forward been founded upon the petition , as stated by the JHon .. and Iaarned Solicitor-General . The petition was not once mentioned in this notice of motion . What , then , would be the advantage of producing those papers ? The Right Hon . Baronet the Home Secretary aclmitted that a constable in tho performance of hfs duty had exercised some discretion ; that he had received an inipresBion from overt acts , or from words , that a certain meeting was an unlawful asaenib .-y , find be ijiterfered to disperse that aSr senibly without the authority of a magistrate . It was true the Right Hon . Baronet did not say that the

      constable was justified ia taking such a course ; but be wonld ask , were tljQ circumstancea of such a nature m to call for the approbation cf the ( Gfovernment ? On the contrary , the Attorney-General adniitted ; that it ^ as inexpedient for constables ' thiis to interfere . ; Was it not , then , pushing the power of the executive ( Government to a great length , under these circuinstanbes , te refuse the production of . ' the papers ? ( Hear , " hear . ) Snmmum jus , summd injutlu . 7 f 'th ^ doctrine now insisted upon' were to prevail no public meeting could be held without ^ such' meeting being liable to dispersion at the wiU ofVcoDstable . Suppose 10 , 000 persois were assembled / upon any occasion ; suppose a conBtabler-aii ignorant uoan , tut one anxious to do his daty---hea * a or witnessed" tbat Which he

      Conoehred to fee illegal , and thereupon he dispersed the meeting e # me . ro motti ;\ h& question came to be tried not before anyone of the jttdgea of tbe landj but before an Inferior ! tribnnali ; and sacb being ithe facto of -the case , it weuld surely b * iaferrea by the country that the refusal to grant papera < waa : a retrospective ratiflcatloij of the cotirse of proceeding adopted by the constable . An asBembly niight be unlawful , but it would be mest unadvisable to give to the constables the power of judging with regar < J to that unlawfulness , and he trusted that the House ^ would agree with him * that to grant the ' depositions ia such a case as the present wouldjiofc be underBtood to imply any censure upon the judge or the jor / .: If the papers were granted it would be received as an expression of the epinion of the

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      House of C ^ mmens that public meetings ought te be dispersed by the authority of constables ' - ; out , if they were retMea , an opposite inference must be 'drawn , ¦ :- ¦ -- ¦ ¦ - ' " . . '" ¦' - . " '" :- ' ¦" . ' ' ' ¦ :. ¦ ' - / -. ¦ ¦ ¦ - ¦ - •¦¦ ¦' . '¦ ¦ .: ' ; , " :: - ' - - ¦ Sk B- Pbel said that the Right Hon . Gsnueman who last addressed the House bad not attended to the manner In which the motion had originated . It was originally founded , upon tbe petition , and the Hon . Member moved that the petition be printed , In order , as hia original notice / Btated , that he should call the attention of the House to the prayer of that petition ; and induce the House to consent to a motion for tbe production of these papere , on the ground that the judge , tne jury * and the magistrates were inflaencedby factious motives rather tban a strict regard for eqnity .

      Let any Hon . Member compare the original notice with the present motion , and he / weuld find that it had dwindled almost to nothing ; bat yet , if the House agreed to the motion , it would amount to saying that the verdict had been given against evidence . That allegation , in fact , constituted the first charge . The second , as already stated , accused the jary , the judge , and the magistrates with being influenced by factions motives ; the third paragraph of the petition asserted the innocence of the accused ; and the fourth was as follows : — " That previous to the Cbairmah of tbe Sessions summing up the . evidence , he and tWo of the jurymen left the / court by the same door ; and , after being absent for some time , the chairman and one ¦ of the jarymen retarned together , the

      other immediately following , which circumstances ought not to ho allowed to tra ? pire in any court of justice , it being palpably indicative of urifairaess , if not injuatice , towards the accused . " That statement was most positively denied . Though the departures from court were simultaneous , it was a circumstance purely accidental . Every one of the charges had been abandoned excepting one , and tbat was not contained in the petition . As td the&chairman of the qw « ter sesdong , he ( Sir R . Peel ) jyd not the honour : of hia acquaintance , and had never even seen him ; but had always heard his name mentioned with the highest esteem , and believed that Wb services in the cdminiatration of justice ( as bad been handsomely acknow . ledged by tbe Hon . Member for North Staffordshire )

      were highly appreciated in the county—( hear , hear . ) That the House of Commons had no jurisdiction ia any case to inquire into the administration of justice , he could not lay down , neither could he undertake to define that jutiadiction , though aasuredly , If there were reason to suppose . . that a chairman . had been / tampering with the jury , there might be ground for intervention ; but nothing could be more dangerous than ^ on light grounds , to Interfere with the administration of justice and set up the Honse as a cbnrt of appeal from juries . As to calling for the names of the jurymen , the Hon . Member for Finbury ' s own good sense induced him to withdraw bo very monstrous a proposition- ^ lbear . ) The most observable thing was that the Hon . Member bad called for the names of all the parties concerned

      in the matter except the very person who bad just the greatest concern in it , namely , the constable . / ( Mr . DuDcombe here cried out - ' . We've got it- ')—( a lauRb . ) But now as to the charge against the conatable ; what was there to sustain it ? With regard to what his Right Hon . Friend the Minister for the Home Department ; haS sai « i , he had not understood him to lay down any doctrine abstiactedly- ^ - ( hear , hear , from the Liberals . ) Surely , his Right Hon . Friend had done nothing more than refer to the circumstances of this particular case— ( " No , no , " from Mr . Hume aud others . ) His Right Hon . Friend would not , of course , lay down iu that House , without any deliberation , what were absolutely the duties cf the constabulary in

      a most difficult class of cases . In the present case ( which was all that his Right Hon . Friend had meant to adverti to ) , the constable had performed a very doubtful- —( hear , hear , from the Liberals )—as ail cases ef the sort must be doubtful , till set at rest as this had been by the verdict of a Court of Justice—( hear , hear , hear , hear . ) The Jury / bad found that the meeting was an illegal one , and thus had justified . the man ' s cpnduek —( hear , hear ) .. There had been , too , more than one appeal to - law ; the , party complaining had brought his action , for the . assault ( of which nothing had been said ) , and that action had been dismis 89 (! r— -hear , hear ) . Wby should not then the decisions of a court of law be' deemed sufficient ?—

      ( hear , hear ; . IS would never do , certainly , for the House to interfere till all legal means had been exhausted—( hear ; hear ;; and if once tbe House adopted the principle 6 f Interfering , in casea so slight , 'with the judgments of courts of law , depend upon it there would not be one night without some case of the sort being brought forward , for to tba end of the world losing parties would bo dissatisfied with the verdicts —( hear , hear ) . Oa these grounds , then , he t \ oped > that to maintain intact the great principles of law , the House would negative decidedly & proposition so fraught with danger to the administration of justice in this country —( cheers ) .

      Lord PALI . IEILSTO 75 said , be concurred in the general principles laid down by the Wight Hon . Baronet ; but cases might , it was admitted , arise ia which it wonld ba just tointerfere ; It had been hid down by high legal finthnrUy In Iroland thot UlgUCU Casea tne Cuinplaiu lug party could riot properly avail himself of the Bgsncy of thepreBB , but must either appeal to the Executive or to Parliament Now , in this case there had been an appeal to the Executive , and the Right Hon . Baronet ( Sir 3 . Grahaxn ) had considered the subject with more or lesaof care— . - (¦« laugh ) , — -the resultof his deliberation having bieen unfavourable . There was a perfect disr claimer of any intention to throw c-nsure on judge or jury ; but the separation of the ebjectionable parts of

      the motion made it / more expedient to agree to the remainder . What was meant by the constablfc ' s inter , feting " on his own responsibility ' . ? '•'• That seemed as danpteroua a doctrine as that which was involved in the conduct of one who , suspecting fraud at cards , pinned hia opponerife band to the table with a fork , Baying , " If it is hot a cheat , I beg your pardon !"—( laughter ) . --The fact was , however , that neither of the Crown ' s law officers had decidedly maintained the legality of the doctrine , that a constable might in any case act on hia own idea of the lawfulneas of a meeting—( bear . ) He should concur in the' motion , as establishing what he thought would be a salutary precedents—( hear , hearj .. /

      Mr . YlliLIEHS admitted the evil of suffering Illiterate men to be expounders of law ; but , in this case ^ a chairman of flessious and a jury had justified the con ^ stable whose / conduct was in question- —( hear , hear . ) But that , in his opinion , made the case of bia Honourable Friend still stronger for his application to have the depositions produced —( hear , bear)—for , as he bad now framed his motion , there was no question of the mode in which the law had been administered , or any appeal to this House from a verdict of the court , bnt simply a request to have tbe depositions on which the prisoner was committee ! produced , which was information that was peculiarly interesting for them at this time to posseas ^ thear , hear)—for the Attorney-General says tbat there , are niauy laws which he should be eohv to see

      construed strictly , and hia Hon . Friend Bays that if the prisoner waa convicted properly , the lawis in asingulat 8 tate ^ - ( bear . ) For . their informatioii i therefore , as a legislative body , it was important that they should know under what circumstances this person had been indicted and subsequently convicted , and how far meetings to discuss political questions might be held , or inight be interrupted ( hear , he . ir ); for if the law , as it had been construed at these sessions , " was known , it might prevent violations of it iu futuro : and if it was bad or improper to continue it ,.-this House might desire to know that , with a view to alter it . RaisiDg , therefore , as it did , the question of the law , as it niight be then enforced , ' 'he sheuld vote for the depositions being pioduced , as the best evidence they could get of the matter ( hear , hear . )

      Mr . Ewart spoke amid cries of " oh , " and " divide . " He thought a constable was not a pro-: per-party to deckle as to the unlawfulnesa of a meefcibg ' . in the Manchester case the paople had implements calculated to excite terror in the people , and Mr . Justice Batley had laid it down at York that there must be something to terrify the people before a meeting could be said to be unlawful ; but at the meeting alluded to on thepresent occasion there wore no . iuipiementscalculated to excite terror . Mr . M . Philips denied that there were arms at the Manchester meeting . It might appear in evidence that there Were , but such was not the case ; there were no arms ; nothing but flags . With respect to the present motion , he must say that he did not think a constable a litpersontojudgeof the legality of a meeting . The House then divided— ' : . '¦ : ' - ¦ ..: F «> r the motion ......,.......... ; . „ ...... 52 Against it .... ; . . i ...... ; ................. 116

      Majority ,.,....... .. „ ...... ; . 84 On the queation that the Speakeu do how leave the chair , with the view of going into Committee of Supply , " " ¦ - '¦/ . . , ' .:. / ., : ' . ; . " . "' . . /¦ : . " . . " - ¦¦'' . . ¦ Mr . SHaRman Crawford called the attentipn of the House t « the present distressed condition of the poor of Ireland . He was . convinced that the Corn Laws ' bad betn productive of much injury to Ireland ; and , as an Irish proprietor , was quite willing to beat his Bbare in any imposed burden for theirelief of the distress , which was so Eevere , that many of the poor might perish of starvation during the recess , if not by some mean ' s " ' rescued . ' before Parliament was prorogued . ' / ¦¦ /;/ ' ¦¦ ' ¦; . - ' . / . / :. / :, ; ,, ' ¦ - ,. ' ' . ' . , ,. ¦ ' - : // -.. ; Mr ; Field en seconded the motion .

      Lord Etiox admitted ^ the unquestioned sincerity of Mr . Bharman Crawford , who ; aai an Irish proprietor , bad . done inuchfor the Welfare of hia humblerfellowcountvymen . But- there was nothing in the general condition of Ireland to inspire despondency—rather the reverse . The piesent difltJtess was of tbat . QfOftl and Uufoitunately annual nature , arising from the condition of a merely potato-consumiog , population , and to remedy which the Government had taken meaaurea of relief . Otherwise the country was Bteadily progressr ing in improvement , and the people were actuated by ai spirit of enterprise hitberto UDknown . ![ .:. ' ; / : /^ After a few obwrvations from Mbjot Bryan and Mr FieBch , : '"' . ' - '¦">• . ' ' ¦ : " ' ¦ '¦ . ' . '¦¦/' . ; : : . ' -i' :-- ^; . . " ' - -- : -: : " / ' .. : .

      Mr . Q'CON MELh , while thanking ; Mr / C ^ wfprd for his motion , and Mr . Fielden for seconding it , thought that it might be better withdrawn , 88 at , tbla late , period of the Session no practical result could come from it . He was used to I'hese glowing prophecies about the improved and improving condition of Inland j and the present / distress was as severe as he had ever known , not so much in absolute fa dine , as in a general

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      want of employment , and therefore wages . He admitted , however , that the Irish Government and individuals were taking steps to aiieviate the distress , though he contended that the present condf don of tha country indicated something essentially wron ^ - -. ' w Wtr . Crawford yielded ' : ' : to Mr . O'Connell ' * anggestion . v and withdrew his motion . ' . ' . i ; j kAv ' v .: v : < Mr . HtJME / tbon , before the Speaker / left ^» chairs : mentioned tbe condition of his own constltuenti , b . 9 having been called on to do / so by-them at ¥ publla > meeting , with their chief magiatrate presiding . Whea he had concluded , ' - /; : ;; . ' ¦ ¦ :- ^; : ; :. ¦ ¦ : ;¦ - ;/ -:-: ~ ' \ :-..,- ;'" - "¦ : ^ The HoilMMSOlwd itself into a Committee of Sup ^ - ply , commencing withtbe remaining Irish Estimates ; i'J Tbi business of Sapply oocapieitu * rest of the evening , and several sums were voted . ^ ;

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      From the London Gttzetie of' JFrtcto ' y , / iwy 22 - ; ' ¦ ' i ' -V ¦ ' ¦ ' ' ¦ ' ¦ ¦ - ¦ . ¦ ¦ "¦ -iBANKRUPiSi / ' '' - : -. j > " . " - /!" VO ¦' " .: ; : /!> : ; ' John Mills , London-wall , canal-carrier , to surrender August 1 , September 2 , at eleven - o ' clock , at ths RankrupK » iJCourt : solicitara , Messrs . -Waterman , Wright , and Kingsford , Easex-street , Strand ! arid Mr . Wood , Wood-bridge , / Suffolk ; official assigriee . Mr . Graham , BasinghaU-street , ¦'¦ : ¦ --. ' .-: ' ¦¦' ; . - " , : Henry arid Robert Pawcus ^ tockton-upon-Tee * , ? Durham , timber merchants , Aug . 4 , Sept ¦ 2 , at pne > o ' cleck , at the Black Lion Hotel , Stocktori-upon-Tees ;" solicitors , Messrs . Swain , Stevens , and Co ., Frederick ' s * place , Old Jewry ; and Mr . Scaife , Newcastle-npon > Tyrie . : v // . ' :. ' / ' ¦ . - . ¦ :: ' :., ' > . // - / .-- ^ : ¦ - ' ,.

      George Skipp , Han > y Castle , / Worceatershire , cider-merchant , August i , September 2 , at ' -eleven O ' clock , at the office of Mr . Elgie , Worcester : soli * Citors , Messrs . Clarke and Metcalfe , Lincoln ' s-inniFields ;" Mr . Reece , Lsdbury ; and Mr . Elgie , Wor- . - - ' ster . ;; -- '• ' - ¦ ; ¦ ¦; : ¦ ¦ . ' .. . ' - ¦ ' -:.:- ' ' : ¦ ' \ : ; - - •' ' . ' . ' ;¦; - " / : . ' : ¦ .- ' ' "' Charles Timmis , '¦ ¦¦ ' Stone ,: Staffordshire * flint-grinder , : Auguat 13 , September 2 , at twelve Vclocfc , at Trentham Inn , Trenthain ; solicitors , Mr . Smith , Sonthbamptoa Buildings ; and Mr . Harding , Burslem . William Seddon and Francis Jordan , St . Helen ' s Lancashire , millers , August 3 , September 2 , at twelve o ' clock , at the Clarendon rooms , Liverpool : solicitors , Messrs . Battye , Fisher , and Sudlow , Cbancbrylane ; and Messrs . Crump and Hassell , Liverpool . Lawrence Yablonsky . Birminghami jeweller , Aug . I , Sept . 2 , at eleven o ' clock , at the -Waterloo-rooms , Birmingham : solicitors , Mr . Stafford , Buckingham-st ., strand ; and Mr . Harding , Birmineuam ,

      Saaiuel Rushton , Ndttinghani i ironmonger , Jnly 29 , September 2 , at two o ' clock , at the George IV . inn , NottiDgham : 8 olifjitors , Mr . Yallop , Furnival ' s-inn ; . and Messrs . Parsons , Nottingham . John Walsh and . Elijah Halford , Nottingham , tailors , July 29 , September 2 , a * twelve o ' clock , at the George IV . " Inn , Nottingham : solicitsrs , Mr . Taylor , Featherstone-buildings , Holborn ; and Mr ; tees , Not--tingbam . '' ¦ ' :-. ' -. - . ; . ¦• ¦ ; ¦" .-:, ' / " .. ' .-..: ' . . < ' . .. -. ¦ ¦ ' ¦ ¦ ¦ - ' ¦ "

      PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED . , Heaton Mersey Bleachirig Company , Heaton Mersey arid Manchester . —Piaxton ; and Robinson , Beverley ,. Yorkshire , linendrapera , —Pilling and Curry , Liverpool , commission merchants , is . Greg and Co ., Quarry-bark , and Bollington , Cheshire arid Lancaster , Caton and Bury , Lancashire , spiar . ere . S . arid W . Jories , aud J . W' Jones , Liverpool , boat-builders . J . Hobson arid M , ^ ^ Walker , ^^ carriers between York and Leeds . Messrs . . Dsnison , BrbtberSi GuiseGly , YorksWre , BcribMing ; and falling millere . Greenwood and Johnson , Halifax , Yorkshire , cotton spinners . Fawcet , Preston , and € 0 ;/ Liverpool ; irou-founders ; as for as regards W . R . Preston . ' . " - •'¦ ' "¦ - ' , ¦ ¦ . ' ¦¦' '' - '¦ . ¦ ' - : ¦ - - ¦ ¦¦ ''" . ' ¦'¦ - ¦ ¦ - ¦ ¦' ¦ '¦" ' . - ¦

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      From the Gazette of Tuesday , July 26 . ; " . - ' . ''•¦¦ " : ' / BANKRUPTS . . : ' - . ¦ ¦ ¦ . . ¦; ¦ ' ' ' ¦ - . ; ¦ - , ' ¦ . : ¦ : - George Chapman , cowkeeper , Islington , to surrender - Aug . 2 , at one , and Sept 6 , at eleven , at the Court of ' Bankruptcy , Belcher , official assignee ; - ¦"> WilliamsiS Alfred-place , Bedford-square . 1 .. / .. ¦ .- > .- " : > : John " IJang , Samuel Armitage , ' Richard ! Redfearni ' and John Sykes , blanket ; man « fafetur « re , EiversedgQ * ' York , Aug . 6 , and Sept . 6 , at the Gaorge Hotel , Hu « t- : dersfield . Jacques , Battye : and Edwards ; Ely-place , London : ; Watts , / Dewsbury , : a / " Daniel Hodgson ; banker , Sahdwich i j ^ eut , Aug . 15 , at seven , and Sept . 6 , at eleven , at the Bell Inn , Sandwicb : Bdwland ; and Young , Whitelion Codrfc , Cora- " hUl , Lonuon . ; ' -.:.. ¦ : -- ' '¦'¦ ¦ :. ¦ '¦ : \ .. - ^ - ¦^¦' - ¦ ' ¦ :- v - -- / . . - ¦ Thomas Hemy Muuday , bookseller , Fore-street , Cripplegate , Ang . 6 , at one , and Sapt 6 , attwo , at the Court of Bankruptcy . Edward ' s , official assignee , Frederick's place , Qld Jewry ; Nicboispu aad Parker , Thtogmortottstreet . , ; .. •; .- ¦' : ' : ¦¦ . ¦ ¦ . '¦ .. " .- - ; -,- ' . ' :-, . : ' ^; : '

      John Cotton , hosier , Nottingham , Aug . 3 , at twelye » ' - and Sept 6 , at two , at the / George IV , -Inn , NqtUpff- * ham , Yallop , Furnival ' s-inn , London ; Parsi > na , i ^<> W tingbam .. : ¦ ¦ : _ . / . ¦/ - ¦' ;' - .: ¦ :- , ¦/ .: - / L v /¦• .. --. _ . it .- ' ' Edward Wilkins , linen draper , Swansea , Ang . 24 , 5 and Sept . 6 , ateleven , at / the . Bash inWSwauses . Wifcd liftm ^ anS David , Swansea ; ^ ¦ /> : % ' ^ s-jadsi ' - .-.- ' Elusabeth Fairclbugh Richardson , pnblieari , Msnehefeui ter , Augi 8 i and Sept 6 , at ten ^ at the Comm 4 ssioii » i : ^ 6 rooms , Manchester , Jaquea , Battye , and Edwar 4 st fi ^'' Place , London ; Heatfa , Manch « 8 tCT . : - ^ h ¦) & ¦ >? / : John Scptt , gun maker , Birmingham , Aug . U » at ten , and S « pt 9 , nt three , » t the CommiiMtoniB ^ i > Roem * , Manchetter . i Johi » 6 n , Son , and : Weatbwrifcu-Temple , London . Hlgwn and Son , Manche « ter . JohnDieWn * . uphoUterer , NorUiampton , Aug . 6 u 4 Sept . 6 , at tw , ; at the Angel Hotel , NotthaaiptoB . TVin ^ and Twining , aray ' t-inn ^ quire , London ; P ; well , N ^ MfthMBpton . . w ,: /¦ ,, •> . /¦•' ,. : /' . ., ,: ^ : / a / ;;»> ' ,, ^^ ¦ ¦

      Andrew Lelghton , ; inerckant , Lvverpool , ^ Anfrrf 1 & , and Sept . 6 , at two at the Claremdon-rooma , LWeipooL / yincent . and Sherw <> od , Temple , Loodon ; Littlodale and BardsweU , WverjHwL ; ., ^ 01 - ¦ ¦' ¦ •; ' rasf' ¦ '¦ - James Met <^ eand ; ThomM ., Metcaife , upbotaterew /« (^ brid ^ e , Aug . 8 , at . eleven , and Sept , 6 , afeb * tf-pas *^ one , at the Court of Bankruptcy . Gjaham , official assignee , Ba » inghall- « treet ; Gidley , Earl-street , Blackirfcnw . •¦ ¦ ¦ r : - - . ¦; - ¦ "¦ :. '¦ .. . - ¦ ¦ -. '¦• .,- ' :. " ¦ ¦ : - - . ' - ¦" . ; - . ¦¦ ¦ ' ' -

      3empmal ^Sarltamcnt.

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      Prorogation of PxRLiAiiENT .-TTThe day named for the prorogation of parliament ia the . JQth pt iithv ^ of August . The labours . - . of ^ the session , ' wilf ^ consequently terminate in a fortnight . ; / - ; ' ¦ _ ¦ ¦ ¦ : ' ^ ' . Therk was anotheti w affair of honour" on Wed- ' hesday week : Mr . Alexander Pollington and Mr . - Augustus James Tankerfield , who had a disputa about some electioneering matter , met on Pu tney Heath ; at five o ' clock in the morning , and shot at each other . Mr . Pollington was severely wounded / in the groin ; Mr . TankerEeld slightly in the left

      Attempied Mubdeb . — -On Saturday night one of ; two servant girls who slept in the house of Thomas " M'NaTnara , farmer , at Bailycahane , / rose but of bed , and , seizing a knife , without previous threat or iatinoidation , cut the throat of her bed-fellowy , whoso / cries alarmed the family , and constable Slattery , who was on patrole convenient ' . ; to the place , sent off " fpit- /" - Dr , Robert Fitzgerald ,: who sewed op theipcisipn , and hopes are entertained of the poor girl ' s recovery . Jealousy is said to have instigated the horrid , deed . The windpipe was severed . by the wound . ¦ ' ] Tha offender , F&pgy Gr ' Mn , is ini custody- The name of the sufferer is Catherine Fitzgerald . —Limerick Chfon ^ Fbightfui . Accident . t-A . sad accident happened to a fine youth on our river last week , who unfortunately got . the rope of a steam-tug coiled round hia 1

      legs , the effects of which were dreadful . The leffc leg was nearly torn off , the muscles , great bloodvessels , and nerves being crushed , and one of : tha bones broken to piecea ; there waa also aa extensive laceration of the other leg , completely dividing tho tondo Achiilis . The amputation of the left leg Wa 3 recommended ; but as the friends refused their consent , tho arteries were tied , and the best done which the case would admit . As the surgeons expected , symptoms of mortification appeared on the following day , which increased go rapidly as to convince tha friends of the youth that the only hope of saving the poof fellow ' s life was by the removal of the limban extremely hazardous experiment under such circumstancea . The base is ^/ however , going on favourably , and but Uttle doubt is entertainetl of th © patients ^^ recovery . —Dorset Gaxette . - ' -. ¦

      Fatal Railway AcciDENr . —On Wednesday week a fearful accident happened on the line of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway , which proved immediately fatal to a fine young man named Scbli , about 19 or 20 years of age He was getting out of the way of the Pre 9 tou train , near Parkside ( not far from the spot where the lamented Mr . Huskissoni was / killed ) , and which was being hooked on to a train ; going to Manchester , and did not observe a train to Liverpool , which was coming On at a rapid rate ia the opposite direction . He was immediately knocked ; down by the latter ^ aud oat across the body froih the head diagonally to the loiriB by the whole of the train of carriages passing over him , arid the bodyj " ' which lay in an oblique direction , was only feebly

      attached together by the clothes . As soon as ' the train could be stopped , several of the passengersr ! amongst whom was a medical man , got out , but the / unfortunate individual was of course past , medical , aid , and the body exhibited a shockiiig spectacle . The body was immediately removed , and the utmost / secrecy was observed , the guards not even stating it openly as the . y passed the / different station ' s , / bufe mentioning it in a wliieper . To obviate accidents like these , as the erigino of each train is provided with a shrill whistl ^ , . which is blown on the approach to the different Stations , it would also be very desirable that it should be put on as soon as another train appears in sight . This shows the necessity of doing

      away with the privacy , in which nnmerbus railway accidents are kept on the lines of this part of tho country , as if the accident Or the inquest On the body had been made public , it would have led to the suggestion of this or other mode of prevention of the occurrence of this or similar accidents ; A great secrecy is invariably observed With' respect to all such accidents , though it is but fair to state' thatr ; : with all its immense traffic thi § is the second i if not- the first , fatal case which hap occurred Bince thtf ; lamented dfath of -Mr . ^ rfusk'isson on ' ¦¦ the first open- / ing of the railway . ' So quiet was the" oecurretfee ' kept ; tbat ho notice of it was : taken in any * oifthe ' /' local prints . ; :.. '¦ . -. . '¦ ' ¦" _ / ::. : ¦¦ ¦ ¦ . ¦ ; '¦ - ¦ - .., ' .:: h- : ;^ ii- ¦ ¦ yi ** '' ~ - "¦> ,- . -. ¦¦

      Ibahlivtijpiis, &*. ^ *

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), July 30, 1842, page 6, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1172/page/6/