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    COLOSEL THOMPSON AND THE CHAKTISTS . TO IHK TDJTo £ ~ dr THE KOBIHBBJf STAR . Sib , —I have just read a letter in the . Sfcir of last Saturday , purporting to have been -written by Colonel Thompson , in reply to Mr . P . Anderson , of Edinburgh , the subject matter of -which has reference to a lecture on the Com Laws , delivered by the Colonel in the Oneen " B Theatre in this town , on Tnesday , 30 th Not . tost , and to the report of said lecture and the proceedjugs thereat , -which subsequently appeared in the jfcrihern Star . Had I read such a ' letter pmpartin g to emanate from the pen of Colonel IkoBipson , prior to my waiting on him as part of a deputation , or listening to his lecture on ths occasion I alluded to , I -wotild have conceived myself ¦ bound- to reject it as a libel on the character of that -entleman ; because all that I had theretofore read , I gjjiug his signstore , -was plain , lurid , unambiguous , and capable of coming home to e-ren the meanest capacity but 1 must in candour acknowledge my inability

    to arrive at just conclusions aa to the precise inferences ^ fcich he expects Mr . Anderson , or the public generally , to drw fre ™ P 6 " 15 ^ ° ^ 5 nc ^ 1 * document aa his letter in t&e Star of the 1 st inst The main object of lne letter I can . however discover . It ia to invalidate th aathenticity of , and negative the statements confined in , the report to -which it alludes . It surely jEUst haTe required an extraordinary amount of labour on the psrt of the Colonel , an amount to which 1 -would not be desirous of subjecting myself , to have so successfully brought forth a creature to the -world possessing neither tbe distinc ; attributes of the negative nor the affirmative character , although partaking of the nature sad quality of both ; something like those unaceount » Se freaks ef nature -which are called Tjermaphrodite . jf t > w , Sir , as regards the authenticity of the report in question , I shall hold myself responsible for its correctness . I pledge myself t « its every sentence ; and I am further prepared to produce a host of -witnesses to corroborate the evidence which I here voluntarily

    offer-Sorely , Celonel Thompson cannot have read the reports of the proceedings in the Liverpool press , the Mercury and Journal ^ for instance , the recognised organs of the anti-Corn Law party , or he » onld not have risked his reputation for veracity py the writing of such a letter . I shall , I trust , show to the world that although a working , toiling lunwaihed if you like ) mechanic , and the writer of the report in question , I have as jealous a care of my reputation and " fair fame ** for truth , as a man—aye , aad a Chartist—as any and every of the haughtiest of { hose who fear that I , and such as I am , should come «• betwixt the wind and their nobility . " The gallant Colonel says in the outset that" It is always difficult to distinguish how much of a report may be wrong from malice , and how much from mistake or prejudice . "

    With regard to any portion of the report being " wrong from malice" I believe that I , as the -writer , am exonerated from being actuated by motives of a malicious nature , by the fact of my having up to last week , or perhaps the night of the lecture , fully coincided in tbe opinion of Feargus O'Connor , that he { the Colonel ) was about the very best ¦ pi ^ Ti of hia class in the country . Malice could not then be my motive If 1 have been " mistaken" in the report , many , very many indeed , axe so in common ¦ with myself . And when I Snd the report in the Star to be in general accordance with tbe reports in those Joursals whose reporters attended for the special purpose of preventing mistaken fctetemeuts going forth , I surely must at once conclude that 1 am not so utterly lost in fcha labarynth of " mistake" as the Colonel -would endeavour to insinuate . So much for the gratuitous insinuation thrown out at random in the second paragraph . In the third paragraph , the Colonel

    says" Tee deputation were not successful in explaining what their object was , or that they had any distinct object at alL " 2 ~ ow , it would have been but honest on his part to iaTe at the same time stated the precise reasons ffhy they vere not " successful , " as he asserts ; the interruption to the conference which we ttfce Colonel and myself ) were then solding , having arisen from within an arm ' s-length of his person , and by one of his friends , as explainedin the report . The Colonel asks" Dil it depend on his answer whether he was to be allowed a hearing or not ?*"

    Surely sufficient transpired daring the brief interview to point oat to lim the absurdity of asking such a question . Bui does he deny the precise words , as reported in the Star , of this interview ? ~ Se , but by two lines of mystified reasoning , and two questions unbodied in £ ve iiues , he endeavours to shake the stabidty if he cannot directly grapple with the authenticity oi the lipoiz . In the fourth paragraph he says ;—*• TThen the objection was advanced , that the average wages ia the cotton depirtznert ia l" 97 was £ 6 i Si Wetilr , and in liriO , only 5 * C ± weekly . "

    This he seems to give as tae entire question . 2 ^ ow by reference to the lepoit it will be seen that the Colond , for some purpose test known to himself , has c : here stated one-half the que& ' . ion . Xo- ; e who was pr ^ sttt at the interview—not evai himself , can deny that tts facts were these : —the Colonel had stated in Vie course of his lecture , of "Fhich 1 took a note , that as trade ir-creasec tLs btttr ? conation of tee Troiiingnanircrtased in the same ratio , or words to that effect . I Ehr ~ c- . ¦ she meeting , in C-Ttraiiistlnction to that theory , thit our manufacture cf z ^ tion had increased Ir : » 5 i t ' .-i former period , 97 , i ? ihs latter period , 40 , fc- ~ I . T-r- . j-thicS millions psaras , to four hundred ii-i s : xt 7 mulio ^ s pct ' L-ds , sue I then sliewtd ths < Iectise In yra-rs . This he cartfally loses sight of , and R ' . cr-. s tie j-inlc- — Lich btii cults hispnrpese , making i : «~ a a teded ca- taticn , end : hus raises atecQnieai

    eviction ab ^ u : : Ls \ r < , Td " handiuom"' net being , ctixriei to the t-riu ' weaTir , " and then says he £ lie-j . rp tti roll r : K . ch 1 i . id i- ^' t . He tbsn attempts to 1 sLiTr thr fallacy cf hit reason ! :: ? , by lnpgiiig in the -snzrnak-rs . ar . d tilling the riftling that the one reference wruM be as co > d or as reas-Dnabla in my urgu-. serr as the other . Eat after he hau Qrnie-i the evil e 5 = « s tf E . achine : 7 , I ravrtly wished to ascertain to vbst scarce we cov . ' . I trace tte cicprsisicn of those enr ^ cd in tbe SE ^ afactore of c-- ; ton , when that maun- i fii " . arfc Lau-incrra ££ d twenty fold . TisC / i-jnei next says after tti 3 it Is unnecessary for iLciocj tLat tht css-utjontcat— , " i dinie-i i " aat the hind-lioia weavers were badly ' cf ; aad cf Its feing received with tbe marked indkna- t : os of lie mtri ^ , is entirely wiihont foandation in '

    > -tt , I wish to fciow from the gallant Galonel ,, T « i : itr he rat ^^ s tLat ths as ££ rt : uns imputed to him ia £ e r = L--n , are w :: hcjt fcundation ia fact , or the , Eiiia of its receptkn by the ni-eting . ftr the xeadiEg ; -ai ; i bear b-ti ictc .-pretatiuns . If he debits making ti of the ssiresr-ons , kt the Livirpool Journal bear , ¦ Ri ' -ii-s * . I y . Ti ; tlie i ^ z . ly in f —i , and brar in mind : ar--icr : ir frjn thit c £ ; e was ipccialiy rctiinsd . j " m repljizg to the qaestion , CoL Thompson said th- : -shat Lad just been sra-. ed agreed -with what he hs : aL-cidy said . Hi fcad stated that going on as they ' —• tit 0 T * raiiTe 3 wt : e cotnpelled to compete with « ch L-thf-r . and whit o'ier couid res alt from tbe- system « nr tLat th = ir w ^ gti snoula be reduce ! 1 The trade of I tir ; iL-jT had Ltb' -ursd curiEg the time under an inj-p ¦ ty . aud therefore the ohj = c : or had only confirmed - ^;'_ '¦ - ¦ --T- _ c 3 iipEuii * s . prutositH . ua . The previous speaker ; i

    -2 i . » Tt : r , . mitted out word in Ms itateaient , which t-i nu-r . r xD iiaYe nitEtiuucd . Ee kad omitted the ¦* . ivi Land-loom , " before tLfc terra " weaveii , " ia his t » iTTa 5 ca 3 . He . . C : ujnsl Thompson , desisd that the r - ^ - ' - ' Wi-aYer -sras at the prsstnt time baaiy cS ; , ? " : 1 E I-tu 3 Trere girtn to cjiuzxrrce , no one Etli lay tLat thusa mm would noi also be gainers r ^' ~ < ^^ tie verad-an Colonel dtsp-jte the authority r -- s oth crgan ? Bnt how has the journal itt the j ^? -a : iJ : iEE tndi £ l : p through its ficgers ? Fvr thr v ' - r * : at : ' : i ~ & - worlii : because it was nev ^ r uttered K tli-: ra e of tie prc >« cciu ? s , if uttered at alL VThh r ^ pr . -i to th » riceptlon < -f this decial cf the actual

    con--X- " i . " ^^ ^ sni-l ^ -. n wtaTcTs , it would argufy little ^^ J " ° ' ^ 2 irt ? liigence of a meeting of working « c . u tL * y Troci ^ ^ tolerate such ass-irtioBa as I have » - *^ ' " ^ W € re ^^ d to pasa without expressing tbeir ^ k-d" and fcesest " isdirnfitifn . " ^ . - ^^^ - parccraph . tfee Colonel labanrs with an . r" ^ ' "" - " ^—^ y a brtirr object to recast his pnrpoye ^^^ " -uriag to r . " . -j :-roTe the eril eSects i'f marhintry ; J ^ I " ieTt 3 ^ t in Jttter-preis priEring , machinery , ^ n-Ltjf ciminiihl -. g mannal la ^ nr , fcas actually in-~^ iit . Ae } this , too , after findkig fault with my «^ 'i- rosi- if ti * LsndJooni weavers . ' ¦ / - ^ - 'jving as as . g " Ett my case of ite wearers tf 21 "' ' ^" "? c - ' e f . f printing , let me direct his attention ¦ ¦ ¦

    ^ ^ > _• - ' .-ti .-r ins : a ' : Cts-vrhere macluiicry has been in-^ v t 0 t £ i 2 la " - - ^ nt-ter prcstrati ' n of the inttrtst v V ^^^ labourer . If one man in the psper-staincf , vr " ss ai ^^ P- ^ nt time can , with the aid of T *^ -- * - '; , do what wcuid have required sixty men to B ^ ' ? ' B ' iiT 5 J ^ " go , I "" ^ Et * o know if the fifty-_^ j *~ ai thrown up _ n the world have received Each , a ^ Besp ' -ndine anwant t { good from the introduction « U n ^ chice as vill furce tbem to pronounce it a ' ** - —"? If , in the col : co-printing department as Sjr ^ - ^ ^ c : ne l "J seventy men in ikree months , , ~* - ^ —i of machinery , as some years ago would b 03 ^ / t , ; ., y&d five hundred men nine mosths , I beg to CVT fr . rr- tVu-v - — . ii »« i . i- >_ t -i ; r % ;_ _ - i _ * . x .- * ~ w » . r -e tee eailant Colel if machinery in that

    on «« : iss t * ta to the woriing man " rather a bensSt «* e cb ii-jar y—rather 3 biessiEg than a curse ? . " Tet , ^ - \ —" -chiaery has gone en producing , it has con-¦!~^' " -thing cf t hat -w hicb it- has prodeced ; and , ^ -- ^ r it has rendered the home market valueless , fry r ~' ;^ r" Qesritule on the world those who were oar * { ¦ ' --iia . trs in the LtiEe-inirktJ . natnrly , the work-* p ? tl : » .--i . "\ Vii £ n t ^ e Ouuntl cucniicts the oDtratl " - ' J iZl * ^^ t ' rtttut r .-cLirerj hi 3 bittirsd thtir L '' i " - ' ¦ 3 . -- - ' - ' - Lave trEj- ' oyed it-jre conclaiive reaicx-^ = " ' --¦ - -r . v . _ - je . tsiibiteti . L : ' -- ^ t pi- . ^ ir ^ vii , Lt : txi-resi-fca his regret at " '~~ ¦ - r : ; -- * -:. a i-s . ^ -. d ht .., u tjie 'w ^ rtiEg cjasses ^ - " - " - ' i' ^' e V- tl : c-cr .. ii-. stan . " . ! - of tli ^ se vho n . i-^' - _ - " - l '_ r ; > irv t > t-li- th- G . uk 5 t Giz ^ W-2 ^ * - -t ^ i in i ; Tldual wL . o u-adt-ths ; clg-cu- ^ a , or rather

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    put the question , irstts yefc for a reply . With regard to Mr . Ambler'sunderstandtegor judgment beingat all compromised bj palttngthe question , the Colonel would have acted a far more becoming part had he teswered the question , than in deploring or expressing his regret at it being put f But he htmself avowed that it was rather difBcolt to answer : perhaps that caused him to regret it-being put I again quot 9 the Journal for his answer

    in full : — ¦ " Colonel Thompson said the objector had stated a difficulty ; but he thought it also remained with that person to shew -why , therefore , the people of this country should shut themselves np .. ( Laughter . ) let the number of inhabitants be great or small , they had a right to get as much as they could , but they were not to say . they were to do nothing because -we had michinery to do the -work of six hundred millions , and there were only eight hundred millions of people on the earth . " - I now wish tbe Chartists fairly to examine the question in the report , ant the answer here given , and then say whether the Colonel did not fully shew the difficulty of answering to the satisfaction of any man , save a Com Law' repealer ? The next paragraph ! b not -worthy ay notice . In the following one the -writer

    says" That I denounced the Chartists for their interference , after being invited by the Chairman to ask questions is utterly unfounded : on the contrary , I regretted much that the Chairman did not prolong the questioning , as the meeting was manifestly on my aide . " Now , let the . -world read the organ of the free-trade men at that meeting—the Liverpool Journal , in reference to this denied denunciation : — ' " The Gallant Colonel here administered a very becoming reproof to the Chartists , who had most impertinently obtruded themselves upon public meetings , for no other purpose than to interrupt the proceedings . He himself had been a Chartist , and had assisted in drawing up the Charter ; but the manage ment of the affairs of that body having been entrusted to very indiscreet and unwise hands , ' who expected to gain something by throwing the nation into & state of convulsion , he had withdrawn from them . "

    It would seem as if all , both friends and conceived foes , had entered into a foul conspiracy , for the purpose of misrepresenting what the gallant Colonel really did say on the occasion ; or if thii be sot so , when all are found to approach so nearly to each other in their various versions of the matter , the Chartist public will know how to appreciate the denial The Journal has certainly omitted the words " for ever , " if they were not ottered , 1 crust they will fee acted upon by the gallant Colonel ; as I think the sooner they are put

    into practical operation the better for the cause in which I , in common with others , am honestly engaged Ab to the Colonel ' s regret at the conduct of the Chairman , I could wish to know if it was on that night , or the next morning , or after the receipt of ^ Ir . Anderson ' s letter , or when reading the report in the Star of the llth Dec , that this reqnest arose in his bosom ? as I waa engaged in conversation with him on the platform whibit the Chairman was endeavouring to prevent Mr . Ambler from being heard , and none of those requests then feund utterasce .

    Lastly , the Colonel says , in quoting the report , that he is" Bound to stamp it as a misrepresentation by all the obligations which bind a man not to be a paity to a wilful fraud upon the pnbiic ; " the truth is tke Chartists were a small minoriiy , 50 or 60 at the most , in an assembly of 5000 , and collected in the corners of the pit where thtj conld make most of their strength in concert . " Now , Sir , if I " was aware of the motives which prompt the Colonel to make this statement , so utterly at variance with truth , 1 would better know how to meet it If the assertion is made on the authority of his own observation , I must accord him but little credit

    for hi 3 acute perception . If tbe statement is made on authority of some individual or other than himself , he ougbt in common justice to his own character , to ba ^ s instituted a more strict inquiry previous to giving it the seal of his authority . If the Chairman had conceived teat tbe numbers were so insignificant as , the Colonel here asserts , why did he not put to the meeting the resolution , moved by Robert Jones , of Corn Law notoriety , in Liverpool , in the same manner as the resolution , moving a -vote of thanks to tbe ; lecturer ? " Iso ; the Chairman was over well convinced : that the numbers of thote who despised their theorising . would have been made too glaringly manifest ; hence ' pmdence overcame zsal , and the resolntion was put in a manner utterly at variance with ai ] furms of public

    ufcage . I As regards the innendoes thrown oat in various parts of the letter atjainst the Northern Star , all that I shall - say in reference thereto , is that , so far as the report > complained of is concerned , the Star is wholly and entirely irresponsible , for either its veracity or its faise-. hood . And permit me here to direct Col . Thompson ' s attention to a fact , which at once goes to show that tbe . Siar , in&tcad of having a desire to misrepresent him as a public man , or endeavour to create a prt-j j-iice umvar-! rantably against him in the public niiud , is actuated ' . by a feeling precisely the reverse 6 f this .

    A report of the next Charusl meeting which wm held here , after tte lecture in the Theatre , was sent to tie Star for insertion , cantainii g some severe strictures on Colecel Thompson for his then recent conduct ; tu ; instead oi tivki ; the report as sent , tte Editor excluded from it every word TtLich ha-1 ref-rtr . ck- to Colonel Thompson , instead cf tvinc : ~ g a desire cf inserting what Eiicb ' t hsve lo hi : ii r-rf-yc ^ prt-juiicia ! as a public man , he threw around him tie r'ejicate mantle of charitable tzlzzcs : in bep _ s . perhaps , % hzi although one frai ! > ttp had l-tru iur . de , -Eitf-5-quen : rtS-ction woujU ! u-i . rs : nra lie ¦ n ur > .. <_' r _ r to ibv f . it " of public duty . Such hopes 1 am f ^ r frar ) i ent-srt 2 'n ; r . r , and inGfewl , 1 ieiiere . i ) i frfco in connect . ' .:- ! wit :: t : e Chart iii njovenicrt ic Lv-rp- ; -. . bare witntfstJ r t . ' . I have wi : ni- « edi'a th .-i > i / c .-f tc- C-- ! ^' . * i as a polio man , agree with me U _ s ; t _ sre is . not a hock whereon to hasg inch a haps .

    In coE ' ciuiion , I Irave the men of Lse ^ is 3 ianc ' ze' . iet t ) setrie their a . c . unt with the Gsliact Oolc-.:-l , as tc thc-in seeniiTnust fh . ii .-g t . Co . Bat 1 Trou : d in a spirit of kicdncis crravka C-IoKci Ti : o : ^ p » t , n riga ^ s ' tte staterceiit 3 o ? coiiini . rcial tniTeUers who are to be met witii by uccideiit " . psit . cular ' . j if they should ttit ghzi'l hats . I trast C . " . t ] TLor . ipson's ffi-.. ivi " t ' -. - traveller ' did tot Weur a i , ' ; -z-t hat . Jt *; wotfui remtrribrauce of tbe tr ^ velj-. r in " "( Vales with the ei ' . z ^ d hat , ia the case cf cur i ^ uitutvd paiiiot Frost , is ytJ bitterly aiive in the o-js-js .-j ;> f t'a- ; Catif . lits .

    T ^ aTicz - -Lis rather itEiUiy dcc-viaseat ra t ~ e taTos of mj CL ^ rtist brtthitn through' -ut the empire , and prepared to redeem tVeiy p ' cceeLtre givcu , ai > d - si' . a a jealous eye vigilantly cb < ervlr . g tLs iu ^ ve : rit ; . t 3 of professed friends , and with a flciiminatiou to tnc-iinter open asd avow .-d enemies , I beg > eave to su ' -scriha s ? vself , In tke cans ? oi democracy , A very humble Lut Tc / j sincere diiripl-e , 33 El- ; NAitl > r . I'CART . NEY . 13 , Cxosshallcstreet , L : verpjoJ , January 5 th , lSi 2 .

    THE RECENT MEETING AT THE MUSIC HALL . TO THE EDITO 31 0 ? THE MJRTHERX STAR . Sir , — "Would jou dloTr me to msb a feT o ^ erv .-itionaupon the meeting at tte Mu .-ic Hal ] , on the 4 th inst , tbroagh the mtdiviu ef your tridtly circulaied and valaable journal .

    In reference to tee sociity who eali-id that meeting , and whose proceeding ' s we are fairly cbareed -with havirg intfcrmpted , I ' ' ^ g to ask what are tbe real intentions of the party cqmpo . sin . sj thnt s ' -cirty wl :: ch has for its ostensible object the extinct ! -. n < jf slavtry in Africa ? We have the fullest right to ir .-quiTe into thtir motives , E 3 Wrll as to hold up coir ha ? ids at public meetings , bjth of which we are determined to exercise on all befitting occasions . Some of the men composing that society are men who were vio ' ent opponents of the emancipation of the Slaves in the West Indies , and ; seme -who I saw in the orchestra that evening hold and I tperJy avow principles utleriy at variance with every principle of true liberty , and tvLo , in perfectacc . rdar . ee j w . th their principles , have , on tvery occasion , shown a

    strong disinclination to move in the C £ U 39 of j reform at home , then-: h ¦ continually and closely ' pressed to -do so by tht-ir more jihrral iiiindtd frienflf ; and even at this moment of unparalleled ilistre .-s , I when all classes are suffering ( t-sccpt the tix eaters ; j without escepticn , to a greater extent tban atacy farmer ; period , these parties stiil exhibit an ap .-it y . an . ; uc ? rillingness to lend a card to extrieite the country fr : m the heavy load that bears down her every tDtr . ey ,, vh-oHy , tctaTiy inconsistent vith the epirit of true phi- \ lanttr'py . That such parties as these should nil at j ct . m exhibit such a wonderful , such an unwonted j sympathy for tbe Hacks , such a str < -, Dg desire to alle- j via : e their sufferings , such acx ^ -ty to tesch ( hem thearts ,

    acd sciences , and to elevate ihtm in their moral and ; physical condition , \ ooks tu njo extremely suspicious . If the ostensible object were the rwl one , it is laudablu ' eEouah certainly ; but we Very much question whether ] it is so "We catinot help thinking ibat behind all j these fiaming appeals to . " every friend of the human j race , " a Biihoprick lies concealed ; and thtt an attempt j will bfc made , when all is fully matured , to fasten upon j tie px > r negroes one of those blighting curses and de- i stroy-ers of hil pure rtlijion—a state priest . We stall not be in tb- ; least astonished to bear , in a short time hence , of some holy son of the Church moving a grant ' out of the people's hard earnings to my Lord Bishop of ' Ftrnando Pos or some other local ty on the Niger . j TVe have a perfect Tight to infer Mr . Editor , that j

    this far-farced sc « : ety for the extinction of slavery , with ' Prince Albert at its head , is nothing more than another ' attempt to ramify society to the greatest possible ex ' . er . t . ' with z class of men who have ever been , and evsr -will be , the most fiery and unreltntin ? defenders of despo-: iim . The present time pnrtial'y fivours their wishts ; : for whilst one ef the bieociiest set of despots thr . t ever eiirstd a nation with its ra : e holds t ! e reins vz ' i-.-Tcrcnitnt , acd ' whb wifl not fail in imitation o : ± -ir mimrdirtt predeee-sori to urge tte iron heel of ' t-pcrr 5 sicn still c : 'Ht Tip a the necks of their si-. ,: led -v « ho tT « . r j 2 . i anon dcTciope a "wish to tet some p-.-unds to Lama : ; j > -Jgrrjj . fj-stjy the cverwbeluiLDg ilii of dtmocracc liKcrty . hacked by such a f ^ Vrrr .-dcr ^ t , lbs E 5 £ fe : v for izz extinction of slavery forsooth

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    are ia hopes of adding another link to the already g&Uing chain . Absolutism , coercion , is written on their front It is * impossible to mistake them . No wonder then , that such precaution was taken ; no wonder such fear was manifested ; no wonder they dreaded to arouse the honest and just indignation of the people ¦ whom they wished to make their passive slaves , nnd whom they hoped would assist in forging their own chains . Else why such an array of thirty or forty policemen , with the chief constable of the town at their head , and who were on the spot before the meeting began to assemble , lining the door-way , and some in the room ? And -why was the riot act carried to tbe meeting in the pocket of one of the promoters of this society ? Why all this , -when the ostensible object ef the promoters of this society was only to make an appeal to the sympathy of " every friend of humanity " ? Let Mr . Tottie and his friends answer if they can . . . : . '" .. '

    Now , Sir , one word about interrupting the meeting To that statement we give a most unqualified denial The meeting was not interrupted . It was a public meeting . " Erery friend of humanity" was invited to attend . ' As soon as the time arrived for * opening the business of tbe meeting , Mr . Tottie ( with the riot act in his pocket ) arose and proposed that tbe Mayor should take the chair . This motion was seconded ; and before it was put , some one proposed that Mr . William Brook should take the chair . This was also duly seconded , and was put to the meeting , when it appeared that the meeting were completely unanimous in . the choice of Mr . William Brook . Thus far all parties had conducted themselves with . the most perfect order , and in accordance with the nsage of public

    meetings . At this moment the gentlemen who had called the meeting , together with their friends , arose en masse , and left the room instantert without attempting to bring a single iota of their business before the meeting ; thus adding another insult to the man ; already heaped upon the people . If they had stayed , they would have obtained a fair and impartial hearing The " after proceedings of the meeting fully justify me in asserting this ; for never was meeting more orderly , or more good-humouredly conducted in this world . Now , Sir . Editor , allow me to direct your attention to ft most gross and outrageous insult offered by the Leeds Mercury to a Iarg « Lumber of the most respectable portion of the middle class , as well as the working class generally . In the course of his comment on the

    Tuesday night ' s meeting , he asserts that Chartism and Socialism are synonimous ; in other words , all who hold the principles contained in the People ' s Charter to be founded in justice , are necessarily Socialists . There is a cotnplimsnt for you , Messrs . Mursel , Giles , Plint , Stansfeld , Marshal } , Biggs , Smiles , Miall , and the numerous body of your class besides , all of whom have openly recognised tbe principles of Chartism , and who only disagree with the working class as to the best means of obtaining the Charter . Gentlemen , you are all of you , according te Mr . "Bilnes , stanch supporters of Socialism . You want to live in community and in paralellograms ; one and all of you repudiate tbe law of matrimony , and otker absurd and immoral laws of the old immoral world ; according to the

    representations of Mr . Bainea , as to what is Socialism . You are rational religionists , and wish to convert your chapels into halls of science ; indeed you repudiate every thing except the sublime dogmas of Robert Owen . Gentlemen , all this is true , because Mr . Bainea Bays that Socialism and Chartism are synonymous , and this is what he represents Socialism to be . But why s aould I pursue the subject farther ; pitiable indeed must be the condition of the man whose last resource is exhausted , and in order to prop up a falling—nay , a fallen and despicable faction , must have recourse to wholesale slander and lies . I do not wish to qualify the expression in the least Mr . Baiues knew when that sentence was

    put forth , that it was a mean aud slanderous libel upon more than nineteen-twentieths of the people of this country , holding really liberal opinions ; therefore it will serve as a criterion by which we may judge of other statements put forth by that organ , ilr .. Biines ia really an adept at handling the worn-out tools of the eld Tories . A few years since , every man who waa known to hold anything like liberal opinions was . denounced as a Jacobin , Atheist , Revolutionist , and Tom Painer ; but , unfortunately for Mr . Baines , " people have now-a-days an awkward notion of thinking for themselves ; therefore , his attempt to sink Chartism by fastening his Socialism npon it will prove altogether abortive .

    Allow me one word more in reference to tbe meeting . We are not only prepared to defend our conduct afc that meeting , both in a Court of Justice or before the public , but to act in a similar manner whenever a Bimilar occasion calls for it , natwithstaniiing any and every attempt to dragoon us into passive obedience and nonresistance . I remain , dear Sir , Most respectfully yours , V . R . Westlake . 57 , Chatham-streat , Leeds , Jan . 11 , 1842 .

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    TO HAMER STAXSF . ELD , ESQ . " Taxts are Jiued monetary payments , and do not lower with the fall of prices of produce . "— J . Pe > n * . " Ail classes -will prey upon all otner classes just as rmicli as they can and dare . " —Kamek . Stvnsfeld . Sir , —You will recolicct thut , soma little tuu-i ago , in the courte of a convtri ^ tiun vre liml together upon tLs question of a repeal of tLe Corn Laws , I $ > Jac « i the ar ^ ! iii » i .-nt before you ia the bauiu manner as 1 did in ray last letter but « n \ i ; and jou observed , tbac " tfie-positlon Wis forcibly tad ingeniously put , but that tiv-. ro was a fa ; lacy in it somevrliexe . ' I have since laid it V-tfore you and the public , in print , & < j tLut tliu fallacy , if tLere r . u i ne , n ; ay Le tUtcCUtt . It appears to uirj to be th- pivot ujioa whicii the whole queition i ) iUi : taiu ; nor oo- - -s ihtre appear to beany mode of esc 3 p : i ; i t ' :: ^ coBfecinriii-f-e , l-ut by at oue « boltily denyiiiH the jiucd 2 ho :. c ' -urv ixivmejils .

    Wh -.-:: . Mr . P , iiit tui i usihac li t :: X > s Lad nothing to lo with the price of rirticle-3 , " connncn rr . tn sn . ilcd at the absurdity , and were astoni = hed at Lis assurarce . . 4 s that jrentianmn has a en ;< t desire to appear mttapbysicai in bis -i jiolitical economy , " he might have cairied \ bc iuea to a much preater extent , and liaro fearlessly asserted tbat rent , titles , j . ooi rates , coar . ' ty rjics , ¦ « : ! t ; r ? , &c-, as we'l as taxes , " are only deductions frt >» a ibe farnitr ' s revenue , " arA that ti : ey Luve nothing wLa -eVcr to do v . : ; h the f-vico of c > rn ; a : ; d that tLo oi » y cst price of wheat * s the profit of the f ; in :: er . However > ctptiCal w&Hii ^ iit have laan , this pi , silum is j-jst as true as the first ; and no doubt vre shall believe it . at the same time t ! : at \ re ave conviuceti that the forty per ecu j upon our niait , tbe upmost one hundred i ;' . rcwitB } -. in our sucar . tbe more thnn one hundred ptr tent , upon our tea , aru'i the nino hundred per cent , upi . n our tobaccj , have nothing to do with tka price of t > . i >>• . . irtii ! t-M !

    You will also recollect , Sir , that in tbe conversation before aLu'ied to , aud after you had adruitted that the " position was forcibly and ingeniously put , but that tL « e vs . is a faliacy iu it somuwhere , " you observed , " th-. ' cause of our being embarrassed by the question was ibe iiitroduction of mor . ey ; and tLat if we would ( ii ? ci . Lni !! btr tbe qutstion of idl money transictions , r .: ia r . duce it to fcimple barter , winch , iu fact , all cor ^ riieice was , we hhould tL = u arrive at \ he bottom of the question . " Let us , thtn , try the * ' system of barter , " aud ste if that will make it app' -ar to be either j-. ' . st or practicable to repeal the Coin Lavrs , so Iorg H'j cur present fixed mcne ' . ary pajment remain .

    To ]> rcceed , then , we ciust suppose- th :-t the forty per ceni . upon iur Utah , the alnicst ono iiundred percent upon our tvgar , tLe more than one hundred per cent upon oar tea , ' and thu nine hundred per ctut . upon our tobacco are all abolished ; that all commutation for tith-s bas censed ; that the poor rates , the county rates , in short , eTcry kiud of direct and indirect taxation has ctased ; a :: J \* e must also suppose , aa we did in a forr . ; er k-tter , tLat the fundholder , the army , the navy , the pensioners , tiie tHhin £ . uian , and tb » whole host of

    those , who wallow in the taxes , including tbe criminal Judges , and the Poor Law Commissioners , ( the representatives of tLat class of " independent labourers , " which the system has caused to " eat their beds '); we niuit suppose that these parties are ail ast . enibli-Q-in tbe taxing iiou ^ e , at the entrance to Leeds market , to take payment in kind instead of in money : in this case , we can with more propriety , perhaps , introduce you as goln 2 on the " principles of free trade" with your nine ~ yards of cloih , worth £ 1 per yard , to the market to barter for wfctat .

    L <; t us suppose you , then , at the taxing-gate , and the usual form of introduction over . That you have told thetu you are aa Euglifchman ; aud that you are going with nine yards of cloth worth £ l per yard , to barter for nice loatu of wheat . Tae tr . x-eaters tell you that you illustrate them one-third o ' f the-quantity before you can be allowed to ^ 3 . && the taxing t ; ata aud tuter the "free trade" market . You a ^ k , with considerable agitation and Eurprise , what is it for ? The TaJ-e-Jters tell you that it is to cloth the fundholders , the gentlemen of the army , the navy , and als « tbe pretty Uisses on the pension list ; and the criminal judges and Poor La-w Commissioners , add , in tones so sweet , so bland , so " full of the milk of human kindness , " that they require their share for the clothing of those poor souls , whose " extravagance aud indiscretion" have caused to be " surplus population , " and which our over-merciful Christian institutions have consigned to " our paternal care . " ¦

    HutnerSlaMfdd—FooViBb , mercy ! why not throw tbtm upon " their own resources" at once ? Why not tell them that" nature ' s table is full , " and that " she has" doomed them and their progeny to starve ? " But gestlcinen , you do not clothe the paupers in fine broad cloth , I hope , and you will recollect that mine is worth £ 1 per yard . Judges and Commis ? ioncrs—0 , no , Sir , we do not clothe tbsni in cloth of iliat kind ; but you know , Sir , there 33 the judge , the barrister , and all the grades of cScials , dowu to the goaler ; and the commissioners , asiictaLt-comffiksioners , ana all the grades , down to tbe < : union-house keeper ; " and these being " potts ff tru ^ t and importance , " canr . ot be committed to any but men cf ' ¦ respectable" connections ; and , thtse you know , : < Ir . Stataftid , must bs clothed as " sentUmen " . " - But , S ; r , 1 L « iittJa -which wiU ba left afttr ' all'the " officials '; are c ' . othed , we shall " barter" for " Grogram , " which v-iil tf . cja-. te "ocd i-i : "U _ h , and i :: detd too ^ ood , to o ' othe t : i « .-s . e vrio Luve cummittc-d lhemoni . troui ; crime of being i o . r .

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    And then . Sit , yow Beeing the bayonet peeping from underneath the surplice of the tithingroan convinces you that HwiU be in vain to resist Yon give them the throe yards of doth demanded , and push forward Into the market V ^ ¦ Up comes a . ' . stranger to the iaxing-gate and tella the taxing-housekeeper that Jie is a Belgian , who haa come on " the prtociples of Free Trade" to toe teeds market with nine yards of fine cloth worth £ 1 per yard ; and tbat he ia come to ' barter" it for nine loads of wheat : and he is allowed to take hiB stand beside you with the whole of his cloih . The farmer walks up to you both and Bays .: " . ' v .- -: ¦ ; ' .- . ¦ , _ : ¦ : ¦ ¦ ¦ ;• .. -- . ... ' . , -. Farmer—WeU , Mr . Belgian ^ what have yon got to barter ? ¦ . ¦ . . .. . . -. ' . - ,.: ; . . ; . ; . ¦• . ... -. .. , - ¦ ¦ ¦• * , . , - ¦ Belgian—1 have got ^^ nine yards of cloth , which I want to barter for nine loads of wheat

    Fanner—1 have just that quantity to dispose of , and I want your quantity of doth : bnt I will see what neighbour Staasfeld has got Well , Mr . Stansfeld , what have y # u got ? Slans / eld—Well , neighbour , when I left home this morning , I bad nine yards of as goed cloth as the Belgian ; but when I got to the taxing-house at the eutranoe to the market , I was compeUed to give three yards of cloth to the fundholder , the army , navy tithe-mac , < fcc . ; but you know Mr . Farmer , all these things are secessary to the preservation of our glorious institutlona in ? ' church and state . " I need not inform you , neighbour , that part of the fundholders' claim is for interest of money lent to put down out American colonies , who had the impudence to say that the

    " mother country had no right to tax them without their consent" It is true , the vagabonds succeeded ; and afteiwatda with their fir frigates , witti Wts of bunting flying at their mast heads , " to use the Right Hon . G-Canning's description , they thwacked us npon the Idgh seas , and compelled us to give up the " right of search : ' * but , inrecomponce for this , our troops , though defeated , were covered with " glory" And then you know what a shocking thing it would have been if the republican French had been allowed to set the example of a nation doing without kings , lords , and tithes ! and though we did re-establish the " damnable errors of popery , " we at the same time established a king , which you . l amBure will acknowledge is worth more than all we have to pay to the fandholder . Andi then

    as to clothing the army ; you know it keepa down those " rascally Chartists , " who have the impudence to say that " God created only male and female , and not lords and slaves ; " nay , I once heard . one of them say that " he did not think that any body had a right to the fruits of his toil without a fair equivalent '' Did you ever hear such sediUon ? But , by-the-bye , I see that the army can be used for other purposes than putting down the Chartiata ; for when I hesitated to give my three yards of cloth at the taxing house , 1 plainly perceived the bayonet thrust out from beneath the surplice of the titheingman . But as the taxes are paid to ourselves , and spent among ourselves , and '" have nothing whatever to do with the price of articles , " we Bball all be right at last ; bo you can take my cloth and I will take your wheat .

    Fanner . —I must confess , Mr . Stansfeld , that 1 do not very well understand these kind pt things . It ; ia true that your friend Plint has told us that " taxes have nothing whatever to do with the price of articles ; " but it plainly appears that if they have nothing to do with the price they have something serious to do with the quantity I for you have only six yards left to offer me for my nine loads of wheat , while the Belgian , who has had nothing to give towards maintaining our fundholder or titheing-man , has nine yards , which he offers me for n » y wheat I suppose , Mr . ; Stanfifield , that it does not need much political philosophy to convince you that I would rather have his nine yards than your six yards . But as you are a ' citizen of the world ;" ,- . a complete "free-trade- ' man in every respect ; and , as you no doubt , are a sincere believer in

    the doctrines of that giuat apostle of " Ships , Colonies , and Commerce , " Dr . Macculiochj he , you know , has told us that it makes no kind of difference to this country whether we purchase our cloth of thu Belgian or of the home manufacturer ;' . ' that it only , changes the species without diminishing the quantity ; " and , as I do not understand these matters , possibly he may be right ; but 1 cannot help thinking that the Belgians nine yards will do more towards clothing my carter and ploughman than your six yards . You , Mr . Stansfeld , will no doubt smile at Biy ignorance for thinking so ; but I assure you that the moment I understand how it is that your six yards will clothe as far as the Belgians' nine yards 1 will barter with you . In the meantimel must close in with the offer of the Belgian . To b 3 sure he will ! and all the nonsense which the

    " Ships , Colonies , and Coinoierce" men ever Bpouted will not induce him to act otherwise . ' Kow do you like your position , Mr . Stansfeld ? Do . yea thiak it just , that the taxetter should take , from you one-third of your cloth , and then turn you into the market to " compete" with the Belgian ? Is this reallywhat you moan by " free trade . " ? And how far has the " syatem ef barter" gone to support your system-of - Taxes taving nothing to do with the matter ? Is not the thing , as far ns I have gone , too absurd to need another ¦ word ? But this in nothing , as corr . paved with the degree of absurdity to which I will icuuce it before I have done . r

    What would you think , Mr .-. Stinifieldj , what would the whole world think of a treaty of . commerce made with Amesica , Bay , and . which should run thus : — " That from and after the first day of January ,. ' 18-13 , aU goods , of whatever kind , coming from America , shall be allowed to come iu to the Litiglish market froe of all tax or-toll ¦ whatever ; tut that ail goods coining from Fi-dnce , Belgium , or any other part of the Europran CL > rjtinent , fcbn ' il pay a duty of one third of their vtiUo before they shall ba allowed to enter tlie market . " What would you think- . of this ? Would not the " citizen king" un > i . -his raitt our relation in Bclgiuv . i think this a curious iiiusir ' auoa of th < j principles of " free trade ? ' -Wonld it b-j juot . tu ' - the Teniiiinhiii :

    parts of tile world ? . Anil Wuuld r . d ' a iiia rest of-tke world conclude that , I o tho proft ^ sians whatever tliey niii ; Iit , the act ^ vas inteuiieii for tbe express purpose of preventing them irom -coining into the E-. jgliih market ? Aud , by what process of reasoning tio you coiuti . to the cocciusion that that which vuuJd be unjust to thd rest of the world would not Iks unjust to tho E / jglish fui mer . ' If it be unjiiat , to compel the continental maaufacturcr to pay a tax cf onc-thim of the vuluo of his produce befoiij enteriTig the market , and at ti eeanio tiine allow the American to come- in-fre « i ; is it not equally asurjuat to compel the Buglis-Uvnau to pay onethird , and at ' -the sa . i . iio time lot the foreigner coiue in free ? Come , Sir , where is . the distinction ? It there be one pray draw it ! and that early .

    But we are yet only at thd connuenc . dinent of the absurdity . In-the-example .-which I tuve given I left it to be understood that after "fret trade" was established , the tax-eatai-d only continaed to take ono-third of the amount of our produce . ! This would be by no ineiins the case . ' We limst rtcillect that there ia ho such a thing aa " . barter" wilh the t-ix-c . iter . He gives us nothing in exchange for wLai ho takes . ' nor does he tike bo many loads of -wheat , nor so many yards of cloth , for his amount of dividend ; but so -many pounds sterling ! without any consideration whntevor as to its relative value in ct < ta or corn ! In short , accor ' iiing to the principle iaiil do- ^ n in my-second letter , " the laacs are fixed vwndary payments ; A $ n 1 ) 0 ^ OT LOW Ell WITH THE FALL OF Pit ICES- OF

    PRODL'CE . " ¦¦ ;¦ . . Keeping this principle , then , steadily in view , iefe us again take you into tlie market Mr . Stan&ii « ld , -and see the situation in which you will be placed after you . have bartered your cloth . If you refor to tjtio . exuiiyilea previously given , you will find thit after the tax- « attfs biul taken one third , or three yard's of cloth , that yoil . had still six yards , or the value of six loads of whent ,. remaining to take home with you , for the wages of your men and your own consumption . But this is tar from

    being the real state of-the-case- ! > L « t us-suppose , you ug ; tin in the market , then , with your nine yards of cloth ; and , to make short work of it , that you have " bartered" it , on tho ' ¦ principles' of -free trade , " with tbe Pulaiuier for Ui 3 nine Ioa «\ s of Ayh'eat ; and let us also suppose , in accordance with your own principlea , that tbe price of wheat has . fallen ' . Ojie-ha . lft and that , consequently , ¦ when you liuve obtained your nine loads of wheat you can only exchange it for £ 4 10 s . instead of the £ 9 which you had formerly been in the habit of obtaining .

    Now , Sir , recollect that the taxes are fixed monetary payments , . apd . not lower with the fall of tho prices of produce ; and that * consequently , though yon have only bartered your wheat which you ' get-in txehange for your cloth , for £ i lQs ., you will still have £ 3 io pay to the iaxcaicr outo / il ! the same as you had to pay when you " bartered ' . ' for £ 9 ! A ad recollect , Sir , that the £ 6 left out of the £ ' J would purchase 240 pounds of American cotton , - at sixpence per pouuel ; and that the £ 1 103 . which you have left out of your £ 4 Ida . wili oniy purchase 60 pounds of cotton , er just one quarter of what it would before ! ¦ ¦'¦ not be heightened by any thing which could be said by I need not add another word ! The . absurdity could Yours truly , James Penny . Millbridge . Jan . 11 , 1842 .

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    TO THE WORKING MEN OF SCOTLAND . Fellow Countrymen , — I address you as one whom you know , as a man identified with your country , and as a Charti&t whose conduct , you have approved of . whose principles you have applauded . Let me be divested for a time of the office jof an Executive ; Councillor of the National Charter Association ; as a countryman , let me transfer myself in imngin » tion amongst yon ; and then allow me thej-rivjjege of addressing ihy ' fidf-to your reason . I will neither aruuse nor offend your national prejudices ; I will neither be dejected not AW mayed by your recent rfjection , in various public raeet-Will

    iegs , of the National Petition ; I' ' not heed whetner the pride or prejudice , the policy or principle of your leaders may have , . by the casting vote of the Chapman , virtually censured the '' so-c : iiied . £% i / sA Petition ; but , demanding that which you have iiever denied , viz . liberty .-of speech , I » ha . I , a .-s a . man , a countryman , and a Chartist , enter ray protest against , the-. rejection-, of the National Petition , by a wajoTity of ono in the Scottish Convention . The following : ire fiiy reasons : First ; tbe-so-called Enidhh Petition is the pttition of foe majority of the -. Cuiart-ists of Grl-at Britain . I assume in the outfit * , tlrit the ' working 'iiif . n of Scotland ' ( whatever the uiidUiu ciiiss may desire ) mea ? i to have

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    "Dniversal Suffrage , or , in other words , that they , in common with the working men of England , Wales , and Ireland , Yn&Kd , under the Charter , that the majority of the people shall gbvem , ind that the laws ^ of the few ' : shall not bei the laws oi the many . ;; If onr principles are exactly the same , then in practice your leaders , or . a majority of them , have seceded from the spirit of Uie Charter , and have virtually laid it ddwn as a rule that in petitions the minority have a clear right to rahv becaitse Sodfland being a minority of the people of Great Britain and Ireland , has assumed the rutership of the remainder . l

    Tb " 'iny- imS , ' . tiie "' r ^ ectibn .-of- the petition ( which never had a dissentient voice in the tJ hartist ranks in England , ^ ^ Wales ; oi- Ireland , ) : dmply means that the Scotch people , er that part of them who agree with the majority of their leaders , desire to separate alto ^ gether from the fliater kingdoms In the present agitation , or ' atUl remaining in Onion with them , that the role o f the minority means Chartism . If you want a repeal of the Charter Union , why urge it aa an objection against the National Petition that one of its clauses approves of a

    repeal of the Irish Union , if the Irish people demand it . If you Insist npon a repeal of the Charter Union existing between England and Scotland , let it be made known , and the £ h ^ i « A Chartista will at once admit your separate sovereignty ; but if you , the" . working men , desire Instead of a repeal a brotherly union to exist between Chartist and Chartist , without any distinction df countries ,. then I demand from , you the observance of the first grand principle of the Charter , which is that the minority yield to the suffrages of the majority . • . ¦ ¦ - ¦ ¦ ¦¦ : ¦ - ¦ : ¦ .. ¦' : ' .. ¦' ¦"¦" ' ¦ . ¦ : " . ' ¦ - :- " ¦ '' : '¦'¦¦

    That you have not the majority on your aide must be apparent , fiwtj from the whole of the English people adopting the National Petition . Secondly , from tho whole of the Welsh people having done the same . Thirdly , from the Irish people haying adopted it and signed it in many districts ; and fourthly , from the ; ascertained fact , that your delegates wete equally divided on the , quesUbn . There cannot be a shadow of doubt concerning the question as to which have the majority , " although , it may be urged that WilliamXoyett / and ; about ^ ^ fl ftj aiemberB of his Asseciation , discussed the question whether they would sign the petition or not , as English Chartists . It may be argued that Scotland was not asked to Vote at all ,

    and hence that Scotland ' s pride was touched ; ' To . this I reply that a petitionwas drawn up in Englandl , which was submitted to the people for . their approval and adoption . It was open to reviBioD , amendraent , and rejection . Some one must have drawn it ' - ¦ tip , v Why did not the Scottish leaders forward their protest to the concoctors of the Petition ? Th 0 JExecu ti vo Council waited to receive all communications . None would have received greater attention than the protest of the Glasgow leaders , but none came . The petition was adopted by two nations , besides the half of Scotland , and after this decided expression of the opinion of the majority , the few ballotted agaioat it , and have gained a most un-Chartist-like , and , I hope , temporary victory over principle and for prejudice ,

    Do you , the workuig men , justify this proceeding in your own minds r Do- you , reasoning apatt from country , and only for principle , approve ? If you say yes , then you decide - that no grievance endured by England , Wales , . or Ireland should be mentioned in a petition , except . Scotland feels it . Is this patriotism or selflsbness ? Ia my opiuion , it U the purest specimen of selfish legislation ; and in my second reason for proteeting , I shall endeavour to make it clear . ^ Secondly , , ¦ " The objections urged against the adoption of the National Petition are insufficient to authorise ite rejection by the working men of Scotland . "

    It is said the people of Scotland were not consulted . That is no reason why tfeey ahould reject a just complaint or refuse to abolish an admitted grievance . It has been said that grievances Bhould not be mentioned , but ' simply the principles of the Chaiter . If this is admitted , tbe next order muBt be to define topics for the lecturers , and that would lead to a college of Chartist inquisitors equally repulsive or injurious te our principles arid our cause . Besides the duty of tbe Scotch people was not to curtail the statement of England or Ireland ' s grievances , but to add as many more of their grievances as they thought ' right . If England rejected a petition from Scotland , it must be on some rational grounds . What are the grounds for the objections of the Scottish leaders ?

    Do they object because the Executive Council of the 80-called Euglish association drew it up ? If so , theu Englishmen will never be euilty of such narrow jealousy . That cannot be ,. because the Executive Council is ba ^ ed upon a far superior principle than that «* f the Central Committee of Scotland ? - Why . soT . " ¦ '; ¦ . , . .- ¦ . - . - Because the Executive Council is elected by ballot , and by the votes , of the members of tha association , whereas ' the- 'Central . Committee is only elected by the delegates of the ; Universal Suffrage AsaooiaUon . without ballot , and vrithovit the votes of the mombura of their association being recorded . Tbe Executive Council represents the whole of their association , but the Central . Committee ia only a sort of fionnte representing delegate , iu t ! i « same v . ^ -y us if tho ' -Executive . Couacil represented only the . co » iniittees of tho association .

    I rejoice to observe that several of those who actively denouncud the Central . Coinmittee of ScoUaud- ' hav . a bt-coine , in tho Convention , its tqu-. iUy activo supporters , and nf ter writing ibe above , 1 am aim . . st inclined to ttite that theroforu tha prinripUa -. upan wtiii : h the Cbijtr . il Cominitt-36 was elected , . 'iiiuut - have beau alt end . ' There ' cannot be any objection to the Executive / although it has been denounced ia . Scotljind by -Mine crotchet-mongers , 'Nvko imaginod that Mr . O'Couuor liad more power over the Executive tJjan he cou . ' iJ jnocure

    t > y his single vote as a member of tUe aHS ! icii . fc . " . ' . n . I am i ; waro of a little unnianly jwiioiisy pytsvuujiig in that rei-p ? ct ,. and I can ouly ssy , tnatrMr . O'Connor k ; -. d a * niuiili U > do with the funuaticmof the flssoclat ion ; is it prisouer cuuh ! Ikve , and as much to do w ' nh thii rinnvjn ^ up of thii -Petition , as an . absent-jusui ( o . ild jjiivc ; beiiiie . S ilr . O'Connor is an ardent auppurtev of ih-. ! J 2 xecu . fr : ve , aud , coiifieqnet . tiy , of tho pruicipie ti : it an eltctod and retijronsibie body shall only huve , uie . » es . tft ; rship of th « nioyement in the so-saitod Eugii .-j h -asaoausr tlo . H . What morii is wj . niwl fi'oui ii ; an ?

    ih'i Executive tiud Mr . OCuiinor camut yxve bX ^ 'tUd the ire of some of thu Ho' > tiisii leaaera . luevo must l > e some other canst ) . Is it tho R-aPeai- queaUon ? Surely uot , for tbere is . no-nation ution e ; i , rth tuat wouUl so much benefit unrter existing civcuuis ' cunc . s by a repeal of the losiisiativo unior . us ScoUaiui , ; aui that belief has been --admitted by rt least one hiiiu-.-ntiai meeting in Glasgow , at which , were present . ' ; i >; .-: e "i' iho inost . acute anil penetrating niiinis of the Cha ; tiat nunement in Scot laud . Several of the objid'ors tj . the I \ tition wtre also ptescut , snd 1 do not itc-Ileot thut th « J exercibed their unique powers of iiiosout up ^ n that occasion . . .

    It could not be that the ! it > pefil QUbstio ' a . waa -olyrctod to bocauso O'Conneil had arttipUirt it . Hso the .. ol-jeotors must have % . fovty-liorse po-Wfct of Writi iu eiiat gentleman ' s coHsisttJBcy , nm \ if t ' -v .-j have no evniidtnoe iu lm ; i , then thoir cours-j . is itkdy to s i-va him , ou tim principle that , a ? he does not want liapeal ,. and « n . iy ueea it as a . ¦ scarecrow , 1 x 3 does not desire to b-J compelled to accede iu earnest to it ur reuouiicu it . Fellow-Countrymen , what are . the real grounds cf objection ? . I " must enter upoa this subject m-xt week , and eii ( . Jeavour to lay before you the remaining ivftsous fur protesting against the decision of your it .. ucM . Faithfully , Yours * in the cause , P . M M'Doualu Kettering ,- Northjimptonshire , January 10 th , IS 42 .

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    Sir ! Ihavie seen what I would fain poartr&y ; v ^ ut ¦ words ire nsaless , ; Where treetehedia ^ bo maih abounds . - ; ; : ¦ -. ¦ - •' ' ' .-:.-: ;* " ' ¦ - ,:-¦ ' .. ' . "• : /¦"' . ' If onr governors could enter into the feelings of those cripples and their families- ^ cbnld realize their pain and grief , ands destitution , under .-th-e aficumnlated causes of sorrow whicb ibej feel-rdonld breatheittkeir stm » 8-phere , and for a season exist ' . in- thehr cold ,- damp , cheerless holes , in those sepulchres of the breathiii ^ and If they -could ' ascertain the cause of all that sorro w if they are fcuriiahj they ^ would ixo lon ger delay to / fitisk for and provide ita remedy . Bui , Sir ; the , i ^ eagtiers will not aid them in that ^ search--they will not , assist them in that cure ! " Theyichow tod well that itscause

    is nowhere to be found but in their graflpfii ' g ' . ' . grewH ^ ' *' ' Those poor children , who are thus sunk below humanity , are the victipis of that greedy Bystem which th * Leaguers seek ; not . td restrain , but toi enlargeit : -Tl !^ are the . victims of overproduction—the examples of false distribution . ' In them you witness the foundation of bur miUiormdires , who have succeeded in . thieiril 6 ^ Btruction .: Sir , th « same system , the same nieh whobafe ruined these children , the Leaguers , ' are aiming at yours ; and if not restraineifl by wholesome laws , they will accomplish the ruin of your " order , " as surely as they-haye succeeded , in crushing those unhappy cHldien . . 1 : cannot too often ; remind you , that yon are both in the same boat—the factory children and tho aristocracy . ^ ' ¦ ¦ ¦} y . i ::: ¦; - . ¦' ' : ' - ¦ ¦• -. • :. '¦ - . : -: ¦ ¦ : \

    J 3 ow strange , that those poor , worn-out factory cripples , who are certaialy tVie most >~ deservibgr ohjeata of . charity—( I ^ o , no , I will not thus desecrate he name}—tbeir claim to compensation is their ri ^ jfc ! But , sir , how marvellous it is , that those cast-off-wealth producers should never have been thought of by any of tbe Christian philanthropists of our ago . In all the world , such claims on our benevolence cannot elsewhere be found . But they have been pushed out of the notice of the benevolent , by the self-same spirit whfahy after . having : victimised them , baa , to hide it ^ own guilt , kept them out of the misery-records of ihe League ' . ; - ; ,: ; ;¦ ¦ . ' . ¦ ' . - . ¦ ¦ . - > . ' " --...- '' ' : ¦ ¦ ; :., " ¦ • ¦ ¦¦ ¦ ¦¦ ¦ ' - "• - ; -- ; ' > :

    Many are asking , how . can the people most appro *' priately honour the infant Prince of Wales ? I answerand who can gainsay ? By founding a Royal Asyiuta for the poor factoiy cripples . True , they havenot bt-en wounded in the outside battles' of their country , but they have beeh wounded ini thei civil wars of capital I Their strength has been wasted , their limbs have been torn or crippled ; or lost , in the strife of the Leagnerathe strife of money-getting . The Standard truly says of these child-tormentors , V Their money ia their country ;* ' - and Burke remarked of siich like men , * ' liieir ledger is thehr BlBle , their counting-house is U . tsir church , and their money is their God . " ,

    It is at the cost of these -wretched cripples that pur so much boasted capital has been accumulated : it is but just that a portion of that capital should now find them a home ; - . '¦ . ' -: ' ¦ ' ¦ ' / - ' \ - : - ' : ¦ ' . '¦¦ - ;¦ ¦ ¦ . ' . . " - ' ' . Let then , the nation do honour to itself and to ita Royal P / ince—ay , and to his Royal Mother , by founding and maintaining the Prince of Wales ' s Asylum tot Factory cripples , and let the Leaguers be first called upon to ! subscribe . This will at once test their loyalty and their ' -. sense of justice . The following anecdote will be interesting : —' I once visited two factory cripples . Joseph had been done np" at the age of aixteen ; William was fitished at thirty-one , I was weary wheu I called ; I j # khigly told them I Wanted a little repose > but I could safely sleep under their protection ; they were my body ; giiard . I observed that that expression , though meant ' quite friendly , pierwd to their hearfeL They blushed , looked at their -. deformities-, and thtii one 6 f them said , " We wish we were better able , ' King . '" A ; - ' - '"' -. ¦ - ¦"

    They thought that I slept , I heard the following conversation : ^ -.: : ' . " ¦ . ' William—Joseph , have you got over the shame of being crippled -wlieo you meet any person ! Joseph—No , William , I tbjiik I never shall . ' William—I wish I could . I know that it is very wrong , but I ' - ' cannot '' help it . I sometimes think the shame is worsa to tear than the pain . Many . a time , when , I am passing persons in the street , if I see their eyes glance at my legs , ihb- Hood -flushes into roy face ,

    and I could wish myself under the flags ; I know that it . is very-wrong :- I pray to Be delivered from it , but I fear I never shaHr ; '" ¦¦ ¦ ¦ ' ^ Joseph—Why , you know , William , it is not our fault : we have done nothing wrong to cause our deformity , it is our masters should shame ; - ' but Tarn like yourself , - ; get' out o ( the way as mucli as I can , wUcii I see people look at nie . ; But , if I ; sea . a gentleman with crooked legs , I -amio pleased ! I know thiat it ia wrong , but L cannotheip'it . ' HiB makes me think better ofmyselt ¦; .- ' : a-:: '¦ ' •• . ¦; . ' . " V ; - ¦ ' •¦ : ' ¦ "' ' " '¦ " ¦ " ¦ ' ; . ¦ '¦ : ' ' ¦ ¦ ' ¦ ' .. ' - .

    Williamr-When I aee people with fine limbf , how I .-. envy'them , ' ! But I don't see ; , why we should fe si bo , for , as you say , we aio Rot to blame- -. ¦ I interrupted them by sayiflg , "If England has any causo to . ' 'be proud of her manufacturing system , yod ought to be as proud of your ;• -wound as the bravest warrior at Greenwich or ChelBsa is of his ; without ois ^ purageinei . t to theni , yon are as dcseryiB ? of pensions as they . " Wiliiani tben . said . "I shall rever forget one day , whan-Twas-in compinv with strangers , vcho were cpnversing about me . They coul'l not see my crooked legs ( they , were under tho table ) ' j bnh they saw I bad lost my arm , . Th ? y took mefor a soldier . For awhile I felt such pleasitro . ' I seerned to bequite another creature . But at " . lensrtb , unhiipyily ,- "'« , n '« of

    them ' asked . m . c ' What regiment I ha < i served in ' : Inr what battle I bsvl-beeii -woun ' det ' l V I coiald not teU him . alia : all my brave n € » b ! e feelings bad vanish .- ?^; liow I blushed ! I couid hiivc hid myself under the table f I wished myself'anywhere else than' t L '«' r < 9 , when I waa f . » i-C !? d to sr . y , ' ' I y / ai . ' vrouiuietl in tJie fact . ; ry ¦ ¦! ' they th « fi knew' tfttit the supposed veteran -was only a poor factoiy-Iad . " William concluded by soi-htg to Joseph , " Well , what is- past cannot b ? Le ' iKd ; we s > ust do all wo can to ussirt' ' thfi old Kirn ; ' in getting n 'Htm Hou ' . d '' Factory Bill , ivnd save ytl ^ rs froni' our Me . " - . . ' - . ; . - : . ¦ . '¦ ' . ' : ¦ : . ; Mr . TLiovabui , I ytfi ¦ nm c . h affecv « d -with that iscebe ; Noiso ware present sav 3 ¦ tho " King" , nni his t ^ vo crippifcd *' subjects . " Jit-ally ,-1 was pro ' nil of them ; and risol ' vc ' ri to . get thsim an asylum if I -could .

    Ami «> v . ' , Sir , pen ) i -t i )\ v to nrsa ti ^ f-.-frjc-nflw r < r tbe poor evorywh'jre to be up ttrid BtiiTing to t- e lielp of towl "Ash ' lpy .- . His I ^ orrtship } ias taken Ms . && ; , <';; ha hits sot a ' -uoMe example- ; - he Trili , do doubt , eavly in next session , ' . again attempt to obtain a Ten Honra ' i ' nctoiciea' Ks ? niktion Act . He win , oi con ' M ^ ... b 6 Kiel ; by the-keenta' £ oppbsuSon' cf t > te Learners . Kis lordship m-jU' requij-b the aid of . ill true' C : tristviii& I , therofoja , entreat f . M iawtetviSQ ? T-Ai' : ' um to . l-iiinke it Uiffir biuiiness to tW-. vp . r < l piftitions to --Piriiiiritenfc , praying for a Ten Hours * Factory Lnv ? . pb . ' -cfcuV every bishop , ¦ priest , and dincon , w > tiici see to ii , tiuu ha oht . i ? na one ! I know of nothing that wouM « 6 rn'icix unitdtJie . po . or . td the priesthfiod . Hov ? I shuUbt ; rejnicert it' tiiii-s- at i ; vst , my iabovus shouki be cr . < vraed bv the Chuveh . . . .. ¦

    ; On fiie cover of this Fic . etet ar-s inserted two fonng : of"ptt : tiijn , fiiif lliy use ' . of-iuo £ o-in the faerory ( itetvUtts , who iniguB othferwiSB be ata ioss for the uropor vA- ) r ' i . I ' earnestly pray ,-that every ciergyinan vAiv r « ada tiiis ' Tetter -may become a htiper in tiiis great and good -work . ' ¦' ¦ ¦ - , ' ¦ . ' . ' - ¦ ' : : - ¦ ¦¦ ¦; h The iauuiords aucl acviculturists -will do weil to lend j their tdu . It is their ; interest as-, well as Uitir uu ; y . I hope -that Kidcilee-florth . \ yill set the extvniple , an < l thiit . front ovtry . ltool : aria comer o ? th « lusj petitions . will nov bu forwarded to Pj . rl ; avi : er . t ; for ruy pe- ^> r , innocent , and cEuoily-oi iwes ^ sd ciisnis . I ' Forgive iny iinbortiniity—I K-. el niost kter . 'y on tbis I su ' - 'ject . The spirits r > f Cfcuid and Suiiifci-, sj ;) : iij-:, ff : u : ^ a I n « i oi : wavrt .. I cnhiiut cease-to plead until thuti i > r ; : v . 3 r i r . nrl mine is-answered . :

    To the inhabitants of tbe factory ViHrsres and to ^ ua I need . say very lutlo . ¦ Taey k ; . ov , - and iaei that thoir duty ri quirts that they should be .-stirring- ¦ '¦ now . I would . '' - howjvJr , Jaugg . csc th-a this time tire V / est Kfding of Yorkshire and South Lancashire siioukl have a ruuster meeting . 3 / tatii'ss ia v'Uages and towns , are vrcil and good , as trii- " as thoy go ; I v . ' t . to back L '« rd Ashley tviutriplx - . n .-tty vbr ';« I-atge diatrjets should Lava " thtii provliicui ! s ; a-ShCT :, - . gs ! . .. ¦ .. - ' ' . . " Ten Hours' Bill men . " evevy . wb . ere look to it ; the ¦' - ' Kin ; : " yrills , a : ioru ; puU ,- u stroiurpuii . rvuVl a pull tiltoyettver . " See ,, victor . ' wa ; t = to crown yo = i . r cfjbrts . ' Cheer nip , in my ceil , wi ' . li the v « i ' .: z-itiuii ot ' my . 'iioye ^ - ? —Ashley for ' oyer—Asclt-y for ever—the Ten Jivurs ' XSill , and no surrender ! ¦ ' ¦ ' ' ¦ . '¦ ¦ ' . ' .. ' ¦ ¦

    . -. Poor TV'illia-niDodu . ' You cave ivot for * . txeu U ; e touching ' accoiv . it of hfs si \ ff : rit : ga ? lKi-jv f ^ iiov / , how I rejoice th . atHeaven direc t ed his &feps toiliip ceU , rather than to -Kendnl -Unioii Worfehou ^ c-,. wLeie , had lie net come here , in all probability he- -svtiuVt now , ag tfas reward ' of . Iris industry and s ' ufffering ' s . in the Service of the Leaguers , have been lingering his . " life awty , instead of rauvinc in that suhere of useful laoour wliiehhe has marked out for Mmsslf . . Th

    At the present juncture , William pood ' s forthcoming work will be worth a Jew ' s eye ! What the price will be , I cannot just now ascertain . - If these olseryations should prove the means of obtaining iuy friend AVilliam ^ a little aid , so as to , insure the publication of bis letters , and reyrjud hiiu for his exertions , I shall-rejoice .. : That "brand plucked from tte fire , " is a very grateful creature . I requested him not to trouble himself v .-ith ¦ writing to me often ori his jpurney ; He . no sooner returned to town -than lie sent me a . If . tter , whVch t bad intended to insert here , beca \ iso I love the lad ; and it is due to Mm that he . shbitid once more speak for himself in my . little Eleeters . The , wr . bt of room , however , forces ' . Hie to delay the ¦ -. insertion of William' ^ epistle till next week . : ' ' . ' . ' . ¦ ' ¦ ' - ¦ .- ' - ' :- ' ¦ '¦ '" I am ycuv Driaorier . : -

    • ' Riciia . kd O . - , sxr . tr .. . . A . _ Man of Busi . NE&s . r- ; 'l'lT . 'J'o- ' S'a chap dewa at Qiiswphefi . in go tan- . ation cutp- ' , that ho-rpi ' usrs to } . ay the debt oi' nature unless thodiscountis taken it-Pii ^ h . ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ' ; . '

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    THE FACTORY SYSTEM . ( From the Fleet Papers . ) But there are still other thousands , of victims of tiw accursed factory system unntentioned by tho Lsaeuers —thousands of ueglected , ; abject , forlorn , degraded , . crippled , useless pieced of human lumber , wiiich the factory syst-. m ha 9 thrown out of its jaws , because ' tiwy cou !< i mibiattir no longer to the pr <> rit of the Leaguers , having bien , though juvenile ,-- V used up" in the creation of wea ' ih fuv their oppressors . To see-those living crawling things ( poor creatures , my henrt Wee'is for th .-m while 1 write ) , in dark drvmp cellars , crouching upon iiithy straw , huddled u > ji , as I have behind them , lik ^ j lumps of waste skin , and crooked stunted bones , so wretched that ; th « y areasflanted to mix even ai « orie-st their own feindredr—the very outcasts of the destitute ( for tht > y ftjel theiusslves degraded below the-human family )—to think , Sir , of the bodily and the mental

    anguish of - " these children of woe , even if they wora in plenty , hut now hungered almost to periahii ^ , y-efchapi tho fast to be fed and attended to iu the " h'mw" of destitution , and glad to feast and company with pigs ( Sir , I do . not exaggerate )—to measure all their woes requires more perception and tenderneEs of feeling than ia given to man . God only can measure their grief . Strive , if you can , . 16 . apprehend , somewhat ' of the kcennesi of" the iron that has entered into their souls . '' I speak of thousands of poor factory crippies who havo been-carefully and purposely excluded , but must now be added to the lists of the . Leaguers . Poor , abject , wretched children , thay lw ? e been iliuieil tbo honour of a place in that scroll , because no sophistry coulu deny tbat they were the iridispatable victims of the philanthropic (!) . Leaguers . It is to reserve to themselves the ppvi'erof " . manufacturing" such wretched , miserable things , that the- c ^ iel Leaguers fcave se long opposed the -. passing . ..-of a Ten Hjura' Factory

    Bill . Think of those injured ones , arid of their sorrows— . their piina in all their joints , 'and , in very liiaay cases , nought but damp ' straw to lean oh , on the cold stono ftoofl . ¦ with iron . frames ' to prop them ! Tliiiik of tUeir hunger , and nought but husks to satisfy it ! Then try to feel the horror of their broken spirits ; broken so thoroughly that thay , if possible / avoid . the sisjb'ii-of mail , and often hi'da thsmGeives , even from their owa flesh , their kindred - and then , if you can , apprehend " the -awful ruin of . 'their tiiinaa ! Potrtray the " apguu-a ' of their parents and t ' ieir hv ^ fliven , ' dejected , '; degraded , desponding : their grief is augmented in . the . s . eas-ou of destitution ' , ¦ •' ftecauso the iv . bcV . v ' of . those cripplob no longer helj . a io supply tl-ek wnats , ' They are low a dead wt . ^ Ut t > n fee scanty i > roY ' isioa- of tUe rest . Oi ^

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    _ •" . - ; TH E yORTHERK STAR , ,:.: / ¦' ; ' M _ . '"' , J > ^ C---- \ U \ ¦¦ , ¦¦)¦¦¦• • :: ¦ , .. ' \ . :.: ' ,-. \; . . ^/ i :. Z . k . M ^ U ^' ^ .

• Citation
  • Northern Star (1837-1852), Jan. 15, 1842, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1144/page/7/