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TO MB . O'JIALLEY , OF THE DUBLIN CHARTIST ASSOCIATION . " Hereditary donkeys ! know ye not , TFhoevwiide * , —^ onndres mutt bear the Io&d ?" jjt Dxab O'Malxbt , —Of course you have stood mod the se > shore , in itom , and seen the wave that j ^ rolled unbroken tat many » league upon tbe surface tf tbe vsstdeep , tiQ parted at but , a * if by magic , by some
gyeen agent , jostas Hhsd nearly terminated its jraee . joa h * ve aeea wave after wave broken ia tie same spot , ) M ^ parted ami dasb « d into foam , none escaping ; asd pa ta « pooderwl » ta like fate happening to each and ^ 11 . At tbe tide receded , you hate kept your eye jxed np » to * P ° t < * - ** length , discovered a little jock , Thi « i , though buried and hidden from the sight , —t / wnrtbeleB , wai fixed , motionless , immovable , ^ peverfuL
fl-jfiBsy , that little rock was like still Truth , and the mp J -wtn was like vociferous and frothy Piction ; for » virile , firtkm covered truth , but when the rage fetd pat » d sway , and the storm had abated , fiction fled m& troth remained unshaken . Such , O'Malley , has been the state of agitated Ireland for the last twenty years . T&enreflnpon tie sarfaeehia been k « pt r&fing for tb £ mate purpose of obscuring truth ; bat , alas ! £ «» wives are beginning ts break * upon the immutable fittle rock—the tide is receding , and those with eiarpest vision upon the shore are beginning to see ksth laid bin and uncovered .
O-jiifley , whea a man of mind reads the history of bygone days ; the exploits and noble deeds , the selfterotioa and self-resigBaiian of a Wallace , a Brace , a Bunpden , a Washington , a Harrey , an Emmet , and a j ^ tgenld , make the patriot's cheek glow , his blood ran quick ** & k ° *» and his naves become elastic m sees that they lired , and were ready to die , sot for themselves , nor yet for an age , but fer a printfple , to ssrre all ages . He is but a poor philosopher who never seal life in death , or worse than death in fiT j n . Be ii so better than the beast that bean hii t ojem wbo « e * ppeEte " ^ n ^ *«
-In oylsit letter I drew a sad , bat true , picture of jj ^ iodjtetuinow , my frien 4 , having travelled round her tpsal , take a review of the principles of her * ' patriots * tat Q * & •* ten ye&z * - ¦^ e * ° * S ^ E *^ ^ 1 At happened hstee "Beform , " but come to that period , andendeaTour ^ see the r » ck now that fiction has sp ? nt its foam . So » then , O'Halley , I take tiie one great priadple to vfeick the mind ef Ireland was to be directed , " the rguoi . d the TTnion , " and I ask yon to follow me
finwigh a statement of plain and simple facts , which noKrcMstry can much longer hide from the opening eye of ts&zhig millions . Those little stubborn facts must be anrered . It will not do to coTer them with "the w * -re gai ccaaw unbroken from the coast of Labrador : " aether tan they b « much longer obscured by "the Wkklow bill * , ' * or the " Hill of Howth ;* nor will the "peea fields , " " the rippling streams , " or " verdant nQeyt" attract attrition from them .
Ireland has bean mad for ten yean , Ireland is now in I lurid interval , aad she begins to reason with herself ; ed sow , O'Malley , bear me upon the BepeaL I pve you oor Charter in my last ; it was fuller than fbe English Charter , inasmuch as it contained the whole principle , Universal Su&age , Anneal Paiiia-Be& , and Tote by Ballot , together with a large naasBi of detail , such as the abolition of tithes , appontmeat of magistrates by the people , but aboTe all sad before an , " cheap Government . "
Kotr , you who ha-re beard the storm rage fuH many ifcne and oft , will remember rude Boreas whistling Ml hii wild notes through erery creek , cranny , nook , mi errrice in Ireland , and how each pale one reTeH&d tolktihejocnod eoood : you will remember thai the Bepsal cry was wafted throughost the land upon each piiEing brute ; aboTe all , bear in mind , that the motto was— yo Tny » t . T -what a foreign Parliament felt indicrd to do , or no matter , howerer kindly it may be disposed tevards Ireland , nothing but a domestic
legislature can goTern Ireland for the benefit of Irishmen . " You wIQ reeollsct that the people were told that " Jiiasica , Stwfoundlaad , and Prince Edward's Island had their separate legislatures , and why should cot Ireland hsre bsrs ? " Ton wiQ recollect thst we were told that" it was impossible for Mshmea's kusi-P » a to be as well done &brosd sa at iiome ;' in short , that K ; peil was the r > T >«*«* lot all oar -woe « . Kow , aMsUty , b £ &r all that in mind : that Repeal was the Fnreipie ; sad being agreed upon the principle , we tan come to the practical means of accomplishing it .
There were two ways , then , of accomplishing KErtsi , ether by force , independent of Parliament ; or ij t rote of the House of Commons ; by physical rerob&ai or moral force . Physical force is denounced , and by so one more strongly t ^* " * myself . I denounce it from ttj kuI , before erery moral effort of which man is capiih hu bean tried , and perseTeringly tried , and has fated . I denounce it , except where right eocspiree * ia it , and makes it a moral obligation for the
sappsm-3 B . of & coicbinstiOT of might and wrong . Physi ' ol fete crrer reed be tried , except for lack of moral Rase ty ncnl cowshIb . Physical force , then , is out a' £ . « qafestion ; aad we must next UH back upon nail force ; thit is , upon a combination of right and tt ^ -t , iccrslly suHhaHed , acd effectually directed . Hani force , pourtraying wrong , while physical energy Miii the wrong-doers apprehend the most effectire of * 5 J £ rcrreciioE =, that wherein might and right
con-5 ; t , Jifia , upon whom is this moral power to ° J « £ s ? Tiat question is at once , and . satisfaeiorilj ss * aed fc iir . OOjubsWb appeal f « r " petitionB , PSidsEj . petrrions . " In firt , there s only one point fetici neanbe directed , namely , to the House of Cscfas . What , then , follows , as a natural inference T ^ 1 , t&dcsbtediy , that the petitioners are , by all B ; es , in tkeir poorer , to strengthen the hsnds of those fcas » iva they ssek a faTourabl * responss ; that is , fc 354 ii friends in the House , through whose interest * srta >; ttioa , moal coinage and agency , tbe petition-= 3 « wy sit to be eneonaaed in their work .
i ry-i debate each session , with facts brought to " * u-5 E the justice of Ireland's demand , and reported " 1 is imperial prtss , would giTe moral life and moral ^ s ?? to the moral force applicants . In order to * f ^ T ^ i thij , then , the one great and all-absorbing ^ j ^ sitsld hare been to keep the constituent and the ^ JfseitiiY * mind in perfect harmony , by adding , * Pea £ ^ usbaie , new eonrerts ; aad , upon each election , fc ^ ii g old cftVnders .
5 * . aj frietd , let us see if this mne has beeo J ^— ; ii d , tint we may arriTe at a fair conclusion < ^ " m r&cts , you must now accompany me in a " ** lust . We ie » Te the horrid scenes which I have " ^ fit toi ' uod TFiuda seTen milei of ths " improTed " ^^ of •¦ uEproTed Ireland ; " and we will tra-rewe ^* !» V ind in gesrch of this combination of rigfct . *^ i = enpport of the Repeal of the Union .
12 isi * , -we di-rided upon the question , and had a P ° =- ; a ndajrity of forty-two . SeTen ' years hare e ^> ttd ; a » d let us enquire what hss become of ^ : *^' * Ky , aad what now would be the result of a ^ - ¦¦ & , iftw thousands , and teas of thousands , and J ^ o : iioaaQjij q { poan ^ j ^ ye been paid for the •^• t ftfc xManm ! g ^^ fir 4 set forth the places which returned I besv * ' iSSi > 1 r ^ ^ ^ ° re turn Bepealers now . K a * i ** Liberator ' s own door of his own country 7 ^ * 1 fiaUt ^ d at the door of his town house in my
e ttT « last inKerryeoBatj , Mnliins ; Corkecmnty , j ^^ boroughs , —city , I * . Baldwin ; Mallow , 6 aW * ngll * ' John O'Ck » nnell ; Waterford county I ^^^ SMna , Jacob ; CJare , Maeuamara , jun . ; ^^^ county and boroughs , —county , the Bight £ T ^* Richard Lalor Shiel , (• ' Who it Bit traiiorV ) ^^ a ; aonmel , B « uyna ^ ,, ^^ 7 . Cafiiel and donmel , the two most Radical h ^?* ^*» become the Gatton and Old Sarum of ^~^» kind of muahroom-bed for growing piaeea ^^^^ a . Jnrt fidnk of Clonmel retarnii * Dr . ^ J ^ -D . of Trinity College ! My God i X&n tv ^ 1 ** m nSBbrij thropgh erery county from ¦ * urn . Jtuucenny
i ^ a ,. >^^ ' * «» o county , i ^ ^ ^ ienny city , SuDiran ; Carlow county and ^^^ Uad oea » e hareaieactful , O ! dreadful haTOC , ^^" SUttsnaMaAavsiwroiipi , Tigon ; [ and lo *^*^ l SOt ^ aMdrtte&d ? - ^ ton , Tate « , and ^ 81 ^ g * ' " ^ Hie Tory Bruen . Shocking , ihockfca « " -L ^ T 611 1 d * adW 1 ^ ' Ktofr comity , Fila ° " « 7 & !* ' * < Xmaty ' " YxoaB * m ^** !*!«•; Eldare &s 4 Stt eiC UlTen * Jtm- ; 3 > ublin county , Kt ^ imoa ; Cfee » o i" ^^ Teu , sen . ; Louth coacty , Drogheda , ^ Uto * 101 Me 4 ti C 0 ttIlt J > Morgan O'Connell ; ^ . Newry , Brady ; Armagh , 3 X » bbin .
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Tlius , O'Malley , since 1834 v ehaYe lost twenty-four , we tk » blggtrt half of our minority of forty-two , without one single man of those I baye mentioned being replaced by a Repealer ; no , not one 1 I don ^ mention mysel ? , becaow I so fortified Cork countj as to close it against all but Repealtrs ; there Bocae , a' Repealer , » nd in eyeiy -way a * Irishman and a gentleman , has taken my place . Now , O'Malley , take the Baronets , the expectants , tbe Commisdonew , and all those ready tobesoppedoff , from the eighteen remaining of the minority of 1834 , and yoa may safely estimate jonr strength npon the next di-rbion at eight at the Tery outside : &nd ihit it ihe pbogsessiok of Repeal !
Now , O'Malley , let the whole rotten press of Ireland , the- " Liberator , " and the Corn Exchange " patriots , " answer these facts by facts , and not with ' •'' old Cumber land , " " the Queen , " «« Sergeant Jackson , " or " Mr . Litton , " or " 0 glory be to God , and blessed be His holy name , I gained a bloodless triumph . " Let xu hare facts . Ireland is beginning t » ask tn her whistle ; she must , at all eTents , hare a tune or two upon it . Now , O'Malley , I come to another rock , one upon which I mean to dath another of fiction * ^ rarea to . tomi . I haTe shewn that , physical force being
abandoned , and proparly abandoned , an abandonment sanctioned by Ireland ' s moral strength , that her moral energits we » not " practically , " honestly , « fficUntly , or indeed at all cultiT&ted ; and that all tbe moonshine cry of tbe " patriots , " to " save them from Stanley , and Jackson , and Litton , and the Orangemen , " is sheer humbug—that , in fact , the Tery grievances of which they complain are the effect of causes produced by the " patriots" themselTes . Here , then , I proceed to another mountain of facts ,- and facts which , sooner or later , must and shall be answered . Now , attend to me , CM&Uey .
I n 1833 , we furnished the Irish constituencies witfc . a bill of particulars . We said Repeal of the Union will giro you a resident fostering landed proprietary , who will be spurred on by emulation to giTe yoa encouragement , and who will be ft check npon any Inclination to tyran-Bias , from the interest which each will hare in appealing to his condDct as his title to your suffrages . It will gire you men for local administrators of the law who haTe an interest in the peace , the happiness , and the pros * perity of Ireland , instead of the present race of bloodsuckers , who make your pretended crimes a justification for their real iniquities . It will giro you Irish laws , made tj Irishmen in Irelaad , for tho goTernment of the Irish people . It will giTe you a national stomach to consume the produce of your land , txA backs to
wear the prodnee of your hands . It will make the owners of property look into taxes which they must pay , if their tenants cannot . In short , it will resUre Ireland £ r » m a state of profincial degradation to DV tional independence . We said you are a Cstholit people , aad should not pay a shooting church ' s parsons , and we want to abolish tithes in name and nature , and to giTe the amount , now paid to the said parsons , to the people te whom it belongs ; we spoke not of a scale at grieTanees , bnt we complained that the payment of a farthing was unjust , and tithes should , therefore , be abolished in name &x . d nature . We said the magistrates haTe cruelly oppressed the people , and we see oo remedy but in allowing the people to appoint their own magistrates , subject to the proper tribunal for the due execution of theii office . We said
ererr man of twenty-one years ef age is entitled to a Tote , and should bare it . We said Annual Parliaments are part and parcel of the constitution , and our Irish members require but your countenance and support , to giTe them strength to acquire this and all other things to which they hereby pledge tfcemselTes . Well , O'MaDer . no m » n in Irel&nA , no twenty men , no thousand men in Ireland , werked as I worked for the accomplishment of those things . We were mutually pledged each to the other , by a solemn bond and cotcnanL We , npen our part , said , we know your sufferings will be great in resisting your landlords , by Teting f » r
men who promise bo much ; but you haTe the BUI before you , and it Is for you to say whether or no the adrantages held out will more than counterbalance the sufferings to be endured ; and the people , from the Land ' s End to Cape Clear , with one Toice answered , " we agree , we will endure all to our country ' s good , our families , our homes , and our altar * . " Beit so , " E&id the " patriots , " " and euxftad be be who first strikes the national colours from the Irish standard . " Well , to work we went , and the pocr , but honest and confiding people backed us ; and and I for one , stood by them in return , and resisted eTery act of aggression consequent upon their oppostion to their landlords .
Well , O'Malley , " patriotism" is a fine thing to talk of ; but , in my opinion , there is more real deTotion to country , which is patriotism , in the poor man , who , with a wife and a house tall at children , bravely ri&ks his all for his country's good ; who defies distress for rent , ejectment , persecution , and prosecution ; than there is in the man who makes no sacrifice , and runs no risk , but fattens and grows rich upon the misfortunes of his country . Jfo-sr , O'Malley , let us analyse the effect produced by the desertion of the people ty the " patriots . " Here it is , ! ben , all of a-heap , like Browa ' s cow , and from the Morning Chronicle , which has the fallowing as a justification of Irish indignation against Stanley ' s Bill , while it f urnuhes the most damning proof of tbe Tillany ef the " patriots . " The Chrmide says : —
" In tbe Chronicle of Tuesday last appeared a communication from cur Dublin correspondent , in which he gSTe zn abstract of the returns , shotting the decrease of electors , on a comtsnam of the register in 1 S 35 with tha register of i $ n , which we here repeat : — Antrim ST 7 Leitrim _ . 17 Armagh HOi Limerick ( County ) 1 , 221 Bindon .... ' . 10 Limerick ( City ) ... 1 , 128 Carlow ( Borough ) ... 57 Longford 130 CaTan ,. 150 Mallow 188 Clare SS 3 Mayo 766 Cork 727 Meath 515
Cork iCityj 873 Xewry .. _ 135 Donegal . — 320 Queen ' s County ... btl Down 1 , 102 Koscoinmen 805 DjWLpatrick 2 i'l Tralee « 3 Dongacnon 1 Waterford 6 S 2 IhingarTin 257 TVater / ord ( Cityi ... 151 EnniB 8 Westmeath 536 EanukiUen 133 TVexford 1 , 173 Galway ( County ; ... 1 , 470 Wicklow 252 Kildare 250 Kilkenny iCityj ... 77 17 , 243 Kmg ' s County ...... 5 il
" In the counties and boronghs , not in this list , there has been eome Tery slight increasemtnt , or the constituency , has been stationary . There are no returns from Ihe counties of Monsghan or Dublin ; but Mr . Grattan , in a letter to the electors of Kildare , which appeared in the ChronieU of Tuesday last , estimate * the . lOSS in both At 2 " 57 Toters , wkicb gives a grand total decrease of 20 , 000 for all Ireland . " Now then , O'M&lley , are yon satisfied ? Up to 1836 the tenants resisted their landlords ; allowed their
famii ^ ji to be dtiTen from house and home , in expectation of the boons promised by the " patriots ; " but after three years of "hope deferred , " of anxious seeking and heart-burning , they said , " we haTe had enough of bumbug ; we haTe done our share ; we haTe outraged our landlords ; ten thousand hare been ejected , ten thousand more , rather th&n appear to vote against Ireland , wont register at all ; by that means we shall sare ourselves the disgrace of Toting for the enemies of our religion , while onr landlords will be satisfied with our neutrality . "
Now , O'Malley , feave I or haTe I not folly , fairly , and justly accounted for the decrease of the Iri £ h e » unty constituencies , * nd s « not the r > oor people fully justified ? Had we gone on , year after year , adding something to our moral-force power in the House of Commons , standing by our eTery principle , and had we established our general associations for the protection of Tofcers and the exposure of tyrant landlords , Ireland would now haTe had an increase of 56 , 000 roters more than those registered in 1835 , instead of a decrease of 20 , 000 . Tb * J saw Lord Duaeannon , Sir Henry
Paraell , the Hon . Robert King , Mt Leader , Mr . Wyse and Mr . jephson , with scores of others , not up to the mark , hooted from tbe hustings ; and they bow see Lord Dtmeannon ,. Sir Henry Parnell , aad Mr . Wyse " in the best ministry" that Irelaad erer had , and they see Mr . Jephson tanaformoa into Sir iDeanam Norreys , and they ask , how Is tbia ? Vow , Mr . - Wyse and Mr . Jephson are as honest as any two men in the House , and , instead of fih # "g ? "g one jat of their principles , thty stuck to them , like gentlemen , but the "Liberator " has melted down to their temperature .
My majority in 1852 , for the county of Cork , was 8-12 . I n 18 S 5 , my majority would haTe been aboTe 1 S 0 O , but the enemy struck , and we stopped at 660 of a majority : but my majority would haTe been neariy double what it was three years before ; and . wbji
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Because I stood fast by my every pledge , tested the House upon Repeal , opposed eTery humbug , and would not listen to the deceitful system of taking an instalment of twenty-flTa shillings rent for twenty shillings tittle ; because I risked my life and ererythiDg , in exposing every act « f persecution ; and , in justice to tbe landlords of tha county of Cork , I will say that there were fewer in that county than in any county in Ireland , though the largest and moat aristocratic Well , bow is Cork situated now ? Why It ha * lost 72 ? of its conjtituenti , and * 727 of the remainder will Berer again vote against their landlords ; -whereas , if tha measures , for . which they made so many sacrifices , had been honestly maintained in the House of Commons , Cork county would hare added more than 3 , 000 to its constituency , instead of having a decrease of
727 . O'Malley , my serrices in that county , widen gave the tone to Ireland , have yet to be published . I registered the county—I roused the county and Ireland , all Ireland , through the county of Cork . I rode and drove Vbousandsof miles by sight and by day . I have paid eight and nine pounds a day for posting , always doing all the work myself , asd galloping from town to t « wn as fast as four horses could lay leg to ground . I have ridden miles fast asleep and wet to the skin . I have slept in damp beds in rooms that never were slept in before . I have changed my clothes at Mill-street , and again at Macroon , on my way from Kantuck , home , fifty
miles in a gallop . I have loft home again in an hour , at midnight , to ride thirty miles more in pelting rain . I have bad notice from servants to quit my service , as they could not keep up with me , although always mounted on thoroughbred heroes . I have tumbled down in the hall of James Redmond Barry ' s housa , fast asleep , while his butler was lighting me a « andle ; and I have been in tbe saddle in five hours to ride seventy miles , and address three public meetings . I paid for the reporters , who reported our proceedings at meetings , three guineas each , and then got but a corner . I wu arrested for attending asd taking the chair at seven meetings , and refused to make any compromise , lest I should appear to compromise my party for my own liberty . I prosecuted
General Sir George Bingham for ordering the military V ) ride the poo pie down ; and , as counsel for tha Crown , the Crown refusing to prosecute , I used my privilege ot setting every Orangeman aside , till I got a £ * ir jury to « onTict , aud I did get a conviction . The "Liberator " was leading counsel , but he nun away while I was doing the work ; whilo the very judge who was to try me , perhaps , Bext , was fuming and raving for abusing ( as he called it ) the privilege of the Crown ; but I went on ; the General was convicted , and fiued sixpence ! Ivu counsel a * id agitatsr for every one who pledged himself to Repeal . I nerer took ou « farthing from any one . I posted fifty miles in the dead hour of night , with four horses , to conduct Mx . John O'Connell ' s election at Youghall , and made my way through drawn sabres to the hustings and returned him .
That was the way to get an Irish constituency ; and the best proof is this , that ten millions of money would not have beaten me in the county of Cork . Let m « but get another pull at them , and 1 will put them in the same proud position once more , and humble the devils again in the dost . When they do see ma again , ik will be with the old flag flying , with a few new demands , equivalent to the times we liTe in , upon it ; but not one single erasure ; and they shall sek me again ! O'M&Uey , I have accounted for Irish apathy and the decrease of the Irish constituencies , and now I cone for one moment to a consideration of the charge of encouraging the English people to use Tiolence to Mr . O'Connell .
O'Malley , as a lover of fairplay , you will hear both sides of the question . You will look on both pictures . Look then On ihit ride , And on this . " 1 will meet you in "O ! Mr . O'Connor , Dublin , London , Cork , and his torch and dagger Belfast , Birmingham , Man- Chartists , wont let any Chester , Newcastle , and man be beard , or bold a Glasgow , to discuss the meeting , but themselTes . " justice of trades defending —D . O'ConnelL their property by unions of "I met Feargus O'Contheir order . I will pledge nor at a meeting at Prestnyself to restrain all per- ton , last week , and I had sons ! feelings so strong a great mind to kick him . " against you . I will also —Some bully at the Con discuss with jon the seve- EtKho . ngt .
nil questions upon which " You never would have you profe&s to differ from been more right in your the English Chartists . I life , my friend , than if you will pay all the expences ; had kicked him welL "you shall make all the D . O ConnelL arringements ; I merely "O ! IfFeargus O'Constipalate for frte admission nor was to come to Dublin , and no packing . "—FO Con- the boys would treat him nor ' t Letter to D . OConneU . to a swim in theLiffey . "" Let no man be drunk ; D . O'Connell . let ao m&n riot ; if any should , let him be instantly restrained . " —F . O Cotmor ' t Letter on ihe Leeds Meeting of 21 tt January , to which OConneU wot etiftded .
Now , O'Malley , lo » k on those two pictures , and say who is afraid of argument , and who is the bully ? I can oiily say of toy Preston friend , that he has good lack on his side not to have gratified his inclination ; for , although I hav » never seen the hero , I would underst&ke to thrash him and another or two like him . Well , again , I challenge Daniel to meet me in the very Corn Exchange , for tbe first place ; and there I will defend Chartism and O'Connor against humbug and O'Counell . I will pay my own expenceB ; I will go alone ; I ask but free admission , and no silver tickets and kid-skin gl » re " patriots . " I must have the blisters and frieze coats , and then I defy mortal man to beat me upon Irish ground .
O'M&lley , I mean to make this a great day for Irelar . & I haTe started early , and written this letter before breakfast . I will writ © for fifteen houra to-day , all about Ireland and the Irish ; my obserTations may not be published just now in a book , but they will in time to come . This is my last day , as to-morrow the Assizes close , and all hope of convoy will be gone . No man shall affect ignorance of Ireland after he has read my present seiies ef letters ; he shall see the very grass growing , and hear the vallies ring with the sound of Ireland ' s real grievances . I will let you and the world know whether or not I understand my country and my countrymen .
O'Malley , I said , from the commencement , that Repeal would find an opiate in some new-forged counterfeit My next Ehall be upon the last twenty-four pounder fired from the humbug carup , as an address to the Irish people , va -whicn the anti-Catholic prejudice of Sergeant Jackson acd Mr . Litton is administered to tbe uneasy and Bleeplew repealer , as if it was all new , or , as if those Orangemen had told us anything that we didn't know before . Humbug , all humbug . I am , O'Malley , Tour faithful friend and countryman , FEARGUS O'CONNOR . P . S . I will show you what tbe "lion" in his net can do for his country in one day .
O'Malley , just take my letters to the liberal Irish papers and ask them to publi&b them , even as advertisements , and to name their owa price . I dare them—I cUfy thwn ; aye , and I will make them do it y « t , in obedience to public opinion . ¦ p . o-c .
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TO HER MOST GRACIOUS MAJESTY THE QUEEN . Madam , —The next institution ef society which we have said requires reorganization , in order to its becoming really beneficial to the community , is the Church—a Tery few words respecting which will suffice to place the matter in its proper light and importance . It is a fact , declared by two eminent dlTises of the Church of England , that religion , as connected with
the state , is established , not because of its truth , but because of its utility . Thus , then , I am saved all the trouble of demonstrating the anti-scriptural nature of our National Church as to the doctrines she inculcates . Warborton and Paley have taught me that this is a test to which I bare no need to subject tbe state machine for tbe coercion of conscience . She exists on account of her publi * utility , and if she does not answer that end . then she has no claim to exist at all
By the Church is not meant the people who belong te her communion ; these are her children , who , according to the senthr . ents of the Archbishop of Canterbury , in his primavy charge , are expected to crowd , with pious affeeti-on , to the altars of their mother ; nor data the Churcli mean the places dedicated to the performance of the national -worship . These are only the temples in -which her public functions are performed ; tb& GhutMi is , m reality , the established priesthood , is
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connection vrith those who h > ve the distribution of ecclesiastical good things , and a standing army , and a numerous and vigilant established ' . police , to enforce the claims of the said priesthood , by the wholesome and Christian means of werclon and tbmpulslon . This is really the Church of England as established by law . She is , in fact , a chartered company , with your Majesty at her head , poMeauiag a monopoly of religious wares , and punishing , when she can do to with impunity , all who refuse to use or purchase her merchandise . This is her corporate character , and I beg you ? Majesty to bear in mind this . I am only now speaking of her in her secular capacity ; I waive all investigation Into her right to be considered , apart bora her connection -wits the state , as a section of the universal church » f Christ -.
Now . in this her state character , she Issnpported at the pnblio expenoe , as one of . the institutlont of , the country , and she is so supported on th « supposition that she renders to the community certain important services in return for the support thus afforded her . I am not prepared to a » y that ahe does not render « oma important Berrices . I believe she does ; but the two most important ends ft * which every state church exists , she is , by her unhappy organisation , almost wholly prevented from accomplishing . These are , the guardian ship of publift morals , and a maintenance of a spirit of gond will amongst the people . As to the first of theso
subjects , It in notorious that , wherever her influence is the most predominant , there ia the state ef public morals ? mort deplorable . For a proof of this we have only to look at the Universities and at all Cathedral towns . Nor it this at all a matter for surprise aud wonder , when we seo the manner in which the patronage is distributed . In 1831 , the total number of livings in England and Wales was 10 , 872 , the distribution of which was as follows : —In the gift of the King and Government , 1 , 014 ; lay Nobility and Gentry , 5 , 030 ; BUhops , i , 3 < M ; Deans and Chapters , 1 , 042 ; TJniver » Ulea , 794 ; Private Ecclesiastics , 1 , 423 , Corporations and Charitable Institutions , 197 ; Inhabitants ,
68 . We all know that a vast proportion of these livings are given to the creatures of the minister of the day ; to younger sons and brothers , who are more intent upon killing game than earing souls ; and to persons who purchase them in direct violation of the regulations of the Canons , but who are permitted to hold them notwithstanding . Can any body wonder that when the patronage i » so corruptly distributed , the Church ' s guardianship over public morals should be only a mere name 1
The cose is just as bad if we torn to the other branch of the Church duties : —That of promoting good will among the peopla Alaa , she is much more likely , in her present form , to stir up strife and contention . Here sending a conscientious Dissenter to prison , and there refusing the rites of burial , not to a person nnbaptised , but to some infant whose parents had chosen to have it initiated into the Christian fold , according to tbe forms qt their own communion . One day driving off a poor widow ' s cow , and leaving her son in bi » blood , for daring to defend it ; and the next engaged with a refractory farmer , who had neglected to pay due reverence to his spiritual guide . Truly , the sooner yottr Majesty begins to exercise your powers as head of the Church , the better . If something is not done to reform the Church , in a few years we shall not have a Church to reform .
Lastly . —The constitution of Parliament must be entirely reorganised , or peace and contentment can never surround your throne . The rery notion of representation is inconsistent with the present constitution of the House of Commons ,- nor can genuine liberty be secured until such changes as the altered and improved state of the public mind clearly indicate to be necessary , be effected in the constitution of the House of Lords . Only think of men in the nineteenth century , being deemed and declared competent to legislate for a great empire , solely on the ground that their fathers did bo before them . If the nonsense by which the hereditary House
of Legislators is supported , had been applied to tbe business and operations of common life , we should have been now dressed in the akina of beasts , and living on acorns and roots in tbe vrooda . All has been progrc&ting but the science of Government ; that tias stood still , or if moving at all , it has been In a direction directly opposite to the real interest and well-being of tbe nation . Depend npon it , Madam , the House of Lords must be brought into a state of accord , with the spirit of the age , or , by and by , an insulted people will arise in their moral majesty , and , in the face of their power , the House of Lords will cease to exist as a legislative assembly .
But defective as the constitution of the Upper House unquestionably is , it is perfection itself when compared with that which claims to be the people's representatives . ETen the very forms of the House are at variance with common sense , and would not be endured a month by a really free people . Just , for example , look at the fact that the men who pretend to have their power conferred by the people , refuse to receive a notification of the people ' s wishes except in the shape of a petition couched in the most abject
terms , if it be npoa a particular subjeot , and concluding with a promise which they well know the petitioners never intend to keep . Then , again , the petition nny be presented ; they are not always received , au ^ still less attended to , whiZe measures of the most grinding oppression , and on which the pabiio disapprobation has been unequivocably expressed , are passed with the most provoking coolness ; and the hard earnings of the people are voted to maintain a system calculated to uh-( ' . ermine the very framework of society , and to destroy every vestige of liberty , except in name .
The same atrocious system of misrule pervades every department of the state , and is especially observable in the appointment of Magistrates and other Executive officers , and in the powers entrusted to the tord 3 Lieutenant of counties . The former are men having generally no sympithy iwitk the people , no knowledge of the law which they ate appointed to administer , and an utter recklessness as to the coas « queaces of the acts they may feel disposed to perpetrate ; and the latter , instead of being compelled to convene public meetings , when called upon to do so by a given number of the inhabitants , can Tefuse to do so when the object is oue which it suits their views of interest , or of prejudice , to
refuse ; and thus to st . 'fi- ; , in a considerable degree , the legitimate expression of the popular voice , in matters of paramount public intarest These , and they are but a ft w among the multitude that might be adduced , are some of the lostanoes which prove beyond reasonable question , that thesa moat important of our social institutions need a searching and practical reform , and that reform we must and shall obtain . The pcoplemuat bo fully and fairly represented , or it will be seen at no distant day that further forbearance is impossible ; and consequences will follow , of a nature and extent that is quite out of the power of humaa prudence to calculate or foresee .
Thus , Madam , have I taken a concise view of sutb preliminary matters as seemed essential to be known , In order to the clear understanding , of our subject . We have inquired into the various duties devolving upon the Government , and have examined them at considerable length . We have seen the vast importance to all ranks and classes of such a system of criminal jurisprudence . is shall lend ab once to prevent the commission of Crime , and promote the reformation of the criminal population . W « shall now proceed to examine whether , and how far , the present system of prison discipline , as existing in this country , is calculated to promote , hinder , or prevent tbe realisation of these important objects .
I am , Madam , Your Majesty's faithful and obedient subject and servant , NUMA . London , March 3 rd , 1841 .
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" THB LEAGUE" ARGUMENT . Mk . Editor , —If anything further is wanted to prove that the professed advocates for a repeal of the Com Laws are a set' of dishonest and vile hypocrites , the following facts will settle that question . I attended a public meeting on Monday evening , at Deptford , in Kent , for tt ' . e purpose of meeting the great sophist of the day , * Ic 8 Smith . I found that gentleman at work amongst a room full of middlo men , with a few exception * , endeavouring , as usual , to make them believe that the forking classes were so completely dead to their own , " iatwesfc , that they allow themselves to . be duped by » set of fellows , called Chartists , who were paid by t ^ oss who were opposed to the repeal of the Corn Law * . That ban-fceed falsehood compelled me to brea )"; silence , and ask if , at the close of Mr . 8 raith ' sren > . arks , I might be allowed to correct some statements m : i de by that gentleman , which were at variance with tooth . Inrtaad of receiving an answer , there waa
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a general « ry of theat middle men , " turn Mm out ;" a counter cry of a few fustian jacket men was '' hear aim ; " which ended in those men belby t-xpelled by force , an * myself tkreatet'ed to soon follow ; bnt they ; finding that I was not ^ be - intimidate )! , allowed me ta remain . As soon av order was rertored , the liberal Sydney Smith stated tust be would not answer any questions which Mr . Neesam might oat , aad be felt it hU duty to inform the meeting'wtio that jentlenuawM , U ot * er that they might be on their guard . Mr . Neesom was the person who was mainlytestromental in upsetting theAnti-Poor Law meetingattheCrown and Anchor , the other day , by taking the chair aid putting an amendment favourable to hu views ; and farther , he had been one of the foremost to attend similar meetings , and so strong was the opposition of that individual , along with others , to hit ( Mr . Smith ' s )• views , that they had completely destroyed his attempte to get for thepoor a cheaploaf ; that they could not bold a meeting in any part of London without the certain
defeat of their objttts . But the Northern Star newspaper was the most to blame , as it gave weekly reports of those meetings , and the proprietor , F . O'Connor , a man whom he as Much despised as he did Mr . Neesom , applauded the doing * of those men . He begged to inform the meeting , that it was the intention of those with whom lie had the honour to act , to use the strong arm of the law in future ; therefore it is necessary for the London Chartists t » look out As Mr . Smith is a reader of the Star , I beg to inform him that I fear not bis threats ; bludgeon men or Sabres will not intimidate me from doing my duty in exposing the vile cheat , and where ever Mr . Sydney Smith is , there am I ulso . Allow me , Mr . Editor , to say , I am an advocate for free discussion , an * do not approve of noise aad clamour instead of argument ; but after what passed last night , we may expect knock-down arguments from those caating knaves , the C » m Law Repealers . Asfar as London is concerned , the League is dead without the hope of a resurrection .
My next business in this aff * w -will be , to preach > Ir . Smith's funeral sermon , of which I shall give public notice . Should you be able to find a place for the insertion of the above in your forthcoming Star , yon will oblige , Sir , Your * very respectfully , C . H . NEESOU . 78 , Hare-street , Bethnal Green . P . S . —I may juafc add , in reference t « Mri O'Connor ' s wish , for another Convention , dec ., I ant most ready to do all in my power to forward his views .
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— . —« — RELIGIOUS FREEDOM (?) TO THB EDITOR OP THB NORTHERN STAS . Sib , —On Sunday , the 15 th instant , a written bill was posted on tbe Joint Stock Shep window , to the following effect : — " A sermon will be preached on behalf of John Clayton ' s family , whose death was caused by Whig persecution iu Northallerton gaol , af five o ' clock thia afternoon . " The religious churchwarden gave orders to Ward , the policeman , to pull it down , Which he did . It was then written « n with CUalk , when the aforesaid worthy came ana rubbed it off . The room is not licensed , nor the parson who was going to preach—so thore was no sermon . The above is a strong proof of Q'Brieo ' a statement in his last letter . People would become religious , but the tyrants will not allow it .
Qooa heavens . ' we nave come to a pretty pass . We are denied oar political rights—also our religious rights . A man cannot now teach tho doctrines of truth , love , and justice , without being licensed . In haste , Your ' s , in the cause of freedom , John DAVisoff . Stockton , 10 th March , 18 U .
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. mm MRS . CLAYTON . tO THB BDITOR OF TUB VORTHEBH STA . R . Sir , —As your valuable paper has ever been the medium through which the , rights of all , -without exception , have been fairly advocated , but especially the working classes , I feel it to be my Imperative duty to thank you for the interest yon have taken in my personal welfare , under my unprecedented affliction , I mean the loas of my husband , who died in the cause of Chartism , and for that prompt attention you have paid to communications frein different parts of the couatty . Though he was a poor man , and of few abilities , compared with others , had he been , a rich man—a Collins or a Lovett—you could not have shown creator
marks of respect , or have spoken of him in terms more affecting , « r have been more ready to assist his heipk& 3 wife and children . Other friends have followed your example , and lent me their pecuniary aid , to enable me to gain au honest livelihood , that I may not be left to the mercy » f oppressors , or the frowns ot tyrants . I sinceroly thank all persons wb » have used their influence in the cause of the fatherless and widow , and should any Chartist friends grant me their mipport , I trust they win fee satisaed that tbe same is not misapplied , as It is my intention to acknowledge all Bums raceired by me , be they ever so small , through the medium of your paper .
Sir , I take this opportunity of most gratefully acknowledging the sums already reoelved from the following places : — £ 8 . d . Manchester Tlctim Fund ...... 2 0 0 Members of the Christian Church , Birmingham 13 9 Bath Female Radical Association 0 11 3 Maryiebone aud Paddington Victim Committee ..... 2 0 0 Sir , by inserting these few lines in your paper of Saturday next , with the Bums above named , you will greatly oblige , Yours respectfully , Sarah Clayton .
N . B . All communications addressed to Mrs . Clayton , No . 87 , Porter-street , Sheffield , will fee promptly attended to . Bhtffield , March , 16 th , 1841 .
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HOUSE OF LORDS , Friday , March 19 . Petitions for the total abolition of church patronage were presented : in favour of the Corn Laws , from Cork and other places in Ireland ; and in favour o Church . Extension . The E-irl of ABERDEEN presented a petition from Newfoundland , similar in many respects to one which he had brought under the consideration : of the House in 1839 . The petition sat forth that it was tbe most distracted and unhappy colony under the - dominion of GreivtBritain , and that of late its condition had hecome much worse . . Its greatest evils had arisen from an Kbuso of the constitution granted to'it in 1831-2 . and tho House of Assembly was at present constituted in such a juunner that it was impossible it conld discharge its legislative functions with advantage to the colony . The Detitioners pnyed for parliamentary inquiry .
The Marquis of Noemanby Baid , in the early part of the session the governor had stated to the House of Assembly that the mantel -was under the consideration of the Government at home , but the Noble Earl appeared to have overlooked that point . Ab amendment of the election laws had also been recommended by the governor , and in the event of their refusing to do so , lio had stated his intention to suspend the issuing of writs until he had received the instructions of th e Government at home Under these circumstances , he hoped tho Noble Karl would not press the subject further at present .
Mr . NlCUOLLS , the resident Irish PoOr taw Commissioner , was then called to the bar aitd examined . He admitted that S re » t irregularities bad taken place , bnt ho could not well account for them . He also bore testimony to the high character of Mr . Stanley for integrity and veracity . After a lengthened examination , the witness was ordered to withdraw , and their Lordships adjourned till Monday .
Monday , March 22 . Mr . Fhelan was examined at great length relative to the r > turns from the Poor Law Union of Clonmel . Mr . Peihler , an attorney , residing in Clonmel , was also examined , after which it was reBolved-that Mr . Hall , from the Office of the Poor Law Commisaionera , should ha ordered to attend at the bar on Friday next , and Mr . Hawley ( one of the Assistant Poor Commissioners ) ou Monday . ;
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HOUSE OF COMMONS , Friday , M / rch 19 . On the motion of Lord John Russkij .. the House went into committee on the grant from the Consolidated Fund to the South Australian Company . Sir W . MouiswoRTH did not think the grant went fat enough to meet the justice of the case ; it appeared to him that the debt due by the Ci > mmisflioners to the Emigration Fund , amounting to £ 56 , 000 , ought to be included in the present vote , or a supplemental one ought to be taken to that amount . The Chancellor of tbe Exchequer explained that the present vote was , not a final settlement of tbe matter ; it was merely to provide for the repayment of bills advanced upon the faith of the colony , and from which parties were now suffering under very great inconvenience and difficulty . The resolution to appropriate a sum of £ l 56 , # iW from the Constlidated Fund , by way of loan , was then agreed to . ¦ ¦ _ _
On the motion for going into Committee on the Poor Law Continuance Bill , Mr . W ' akley moved » n Instruction to too Committee to divide the Bill into t * o part * . He proposed to * separate the clauses relating to the law itself , from the clauses relating to the continuance of the Commission ; and thns / he- said , hogtve an opportunity to those who wished to render the measure permanent , without prolonging the Commission beyond the five years . Mr . Wakley indulged in a denunciation of the cruelty of the law as it is at present adminiatered . He" told artery of a child who bad died while its mothor was in the Workhouse ; it baa been taken from her to be weaned , and dietl of convulsions ; its death was concealed from the mother , until she heard it accidentally ; she taa after the body to the burialground , and there ths first thing that she heard was that it could not be taken into the church , because it was supposed to have die 4 I « t the smallpox . Ha warned
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the landed aristocracy that this Uw would endanger t&eir seats ; aad ho pronounced , tho House—the Reformed , he could not call ft the aaieadtd Mouse of CouuiwBs—that could sanction each a measure , worn than the old Bordiiglunongering House of Commons . Lord 2 . RUSSELL bad listened in vain for any argument in support - of the - Hon . Gentleman ' s motion , They had train favoured with a dissertation on tbt Reform Sill , And he recollected , whtn tbatmeasuxe W » M before the Bouse , it was alleged b / sojbo that ii Qm right of retnEabif members was conferred upon tbt metropolitan districts , they would ha va soot into that House men w 3 u > ousht never to have been there—mi «
chievous demagogies , caving no regard for the real interests of the people , and who , if they happened to be lawyers , and sat in eomta of justice , wonid turn them into ' arenas for political discussion , and pervert the powers conferred on thvto U > their own purposes . ( Cheers andlangbtw . ) With respect to the child altoded to by Mr . Wakley , Lord Jobs bad been told that it was-kept from the mother iu order that excitemeat might not aggravate-its malady ; bat the concealment of its death was exceedingly Uameable . Lord John reasserted the principle , that a-FdDX L » W is meant to provide simply for destitution . Mr . FiKLDEK opposed the bilk
Lord G . Somerset objected t&tke Bill being divide * iito tiro parts , although he was strongly opposed to > several of its clauses . . Colonel Sibthorpe expressed his detenn'natio * to give the measure his moat strenuous opposition . Sir H . Verney believed that since it had come into operation , tae wages of the labourers bad bean increased , and that the general feeling of the country was in its favour . After some further discussion Mr Wakley withdrew his amendment . ' . Mr . T . Pa . rk . eb . then moved , as aa amendment , tha the Bill he committed that day , six months . The Hon . Member re ' erred te " return * of tha amount of poor rates levied in various agricultural aad manufacturing districts , Iu order to show- that ot late years they bad considerably increased , jwd that , therefore , the argument upon which the supporters oi the . Bill mainly rested , viz . that it would , effect a considerable saving in the amount of poor rates , was of no value . < Mr . GlUHSDiTCH seconded the a-mandment
After some further diocuseion , the . House divided * when there appeared , for going into committee , 247 ; for the amendment , SI . The House tlwn went into committee . Lord '¦ J . Russell , in answer to Col . Sibthorpe , stated that it was his intention to propose thai the number of assistant commissioners be reduced to twelve . : Mr . B . Wood moved teat the number of assistant commissioners b « reduced to five , and after the 31 st of D . cumber , 1843 V that no assistant commissioners do continue in office . The Hon . Member ultimately withdrew bis amendment , but Col . Sibthorpe insist ** on dividing tha committee on the amendment , when there appeared—for the amendment 46 ; against it , 191 . On tha motion of Mr . W * . Attwood , the Chairmaa reported progress , and asked leave to sit again . Adjourned at a quarter jxet twelve o ' clock . Monday , March 22 .
Lord J . Russell in reply to a que-stion from Sir B . Peel , said be Bhould proceed with the early clauses of the Poor Law Amendment Bill that evening , in » rdee to give an opportunity for discussing the various amendments , of which notice had been given . He should then propose to resume tee committee on Friday and Monday next , after which hu intended going on with is de die in diem . : On the motion for resolving imto Committee , onth » Poor Law Amendment Bill , Mr . H . Hinde said ho hoped there was no intention to hurry the . Bin through the House befosa Easter . . Lord J . Russell said there was no such latention . He thought , however , that in Committee , long intervals between each sitting were detrimental .
Sir E . Si : « i > en hoped that some clause would b * introduced to enable married couples to live together ia workhouses . The separation of man and wife created a strong feeling , against the Poor Law . Colonel WOOD said that in the -Stainoa Union aged couples were not separated , but were allowed a room to themselves , with a fire in it , where they might live comfortably . Mr . Wakley quoted a correspondence respecting : the Uxbridge Uuion , where the Board » f -Guardians had refused to sick paupers the diet ordered for them by the medical attendant . In gaols the medical omcenn had always absolute power in this respect . Mr . Dauby , said that under the Old Poor Law the order of the medical attendant must be confirmed . If the article 1 ordered were withheld there was an appeal to a magistrate , and so there was ttill .
Lord Ho wick said that no Board of Guardians would refuse to attend to the orders of a medical attendant without strong and just grounds . It might happen that a man professing a medical education might also possess an . anxiety to acquire a low and despicable popularity , and might be capable of abasing a trust reposud in him . If the Beard of Guardian * suspected a medical officer of an attempt to set asida the regular system of relief they would be quite right to set aside his orders . He conld scarcely credit it to be a fact , so discreditable to the gentlemen of England , as that » Board of Guardians would refuse article really necessary when ordered by a medical man . Sams discussion followed , in the coarse of which , GeneralJOHNSON said that it was with great paht he had h « ar < l what hod fallen from Lord John Ru&ell on Friday night .
Mr . Grots contended for the propriety of a check , on the part of the Guardians , over the medical attendant , because , otherwise , the whole controul of the Union would rest with the latter functionary . Mr . Easthope contended that there was ample security against any improper interference on the part of the medical officer , who might be discharged by the Guardians ; but it was not right that he should beiimited in what he thought proper to order . Mr . W . A XT wood "said , the lives of the paupers could not be considered safe if the medical attendant was not to be entrusted with any discretion as to their diet ¦ ¦ - After some further discussion , in the comae of which s'une . warm observations passed between Mr . Ward and Mr . W . Attwood , tha House resolved itself into Committuft .
Lord John Russell moved the first clause , fixiMf the period for which the Poor Xaw CammUsion should exisU Mr . easthope thGugut five years too long a period for the prolongation of tlio commission , and moved , as an amendment , that it should extend only until 1843 . Mr . GROTB was of opinion that the periot should not bo shorter than five years . H& denied that th « powers ef the commissioners were arbitrary , although they certainly were lavgei because the important duties they had to perform required that they should be so . Mr . Wakley said the Hon , Member for London had not advanced a single . reason why it was necessary to renew the commission for five years .
Mr . Hawes said he had known the workhouses under the old law , and he had a good deal of experience of union workhouses , an * lie solemnly declared that under tbe old system many of the workhouses were as bad aa gaols , in which . treatment wo » experienced by the paupers which might jusiiy be . called torture ; and yet Hun . Members now sought to destroy the only system which hai ever ' grappled with the enormous evils cf the olci iaw . He denied that the present systeru could be fairly dtsiguateii harsh or oppressive in its operation , and said he was willing to share ail the unpopularity which . might' be incurred by the Hon . Member for the city of Londoa , for defending thia bill , having neither -triali nor desire to flit in that HoUSd Qpon &uch popularity aa might be acquired by opposing : this bill . '
Mr T . Buncombe said the question really at isau » was , tho extinction of the Commission , or its perpetnity , and contended tbat the law could be better administered without a Central Board , by leaving its provisiona to be carried out by the Boards of Gnardians throughonfc the country . The Hon ; Member then quoted instances of great cruelty which had been perpetrated in Union Workhouses , and asserted that under the old law no each cases had ever ccurred . Mr . DARBT supported the amendment . Mr . Hamilton centended that the Poor Law Bill had failed in one of its main objects , that of raising wages . On the contrary j it might easily be shown that its effect had been to leducs them . He vtmitted th * s nothing could be worse than the old system , but it did not follow from that , that they should " go the whole hog" with this measure , and have " the BUI , tha whoio Bill , and nothing but the Bill . " He thought it might be neeessary to continue the Commission , but h& should vote for ita continuance for the shorter period .
Sir Q . STKICKtAKD would also vote for tha shorter period , and was of opinion tbat , unless some snaterial changes-were made , the present system could not continue to be the permanent law of the land . - Mr . VitHEM supported the clause . Mr . -W . A 11 WO 0 D supported the shorto * period , to order to give a more frequent power of revision to tha Hcuse of Commons . It was said that tbis was done indireetiy , fcecause in the estimates the « pestiott migol be brought annually wnder consideration ; bat if tot there c \ mld surely be no objection to do that directly which was not deemed injudicious when dou «
indirectly . . . . _ ¦ : ; MX . MWHTfc thought it might be as well , ia aeccrdanoe wtttt tilt ptinoiple of voting the continuance of thi * oomiulsslon for flv « years , t » stoiiariy vote th » . MntinyHUlMd the estimate * fc ** v ? yeanr . " ¦ . On divisio * , the amsndmeas was negatived ey « majoriQr of 171 to ISfc Calonel Sibthobp said he should take the wase of ; tibe House upon the reduction of the saJarierof the . - CommissioBers , from jga . oao a ye&r&V ^ UfcK ^ d ' . their travel ling expense * from th > e ( ramBw > V . r efe ' guinea a day , which he thought - qafo jJBtiJF W %% egj \ them in " good working codditic ^^ HOlb ^ d'SJyt V « move to reduce the salaries of i £ f mmmMSaa ^ ' r ^^ sionertfrom £ 700 a year to ^ pgStojBl ^;^ ? % Mi # «< V On the motion that the clauacshouSi jsad-. ' fiitt ^ ifc . , * > 41 . "OMI - i ^' t ' - " / ^* -v # - . * . V ¦ it * *^ Mr . J . Fielden moved tbaj 3 jbjAxp * i jpi « r . jC ^ j ¦ ? > 1 + - / The committee again divi < iBM * itjlf ^ J « fl # i » en * r ^ J ' was negatived by a majority of 1 « W 5 ^* HiJv \ 3 The clause was than agreed I ir Jpjjt jimin \ $ m iu ^ J ported progress , and obtained leave toHqq ^ Qk , / 4 v
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