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      ( Ce&clxded from our sLcUi page . ) Mr . A- WHITE h * d always stood forward an advocate for Exuauicn of < ie Suffrage , and carrying out theReftrm Bill as it ought to be carried out . He expressed his regret that it had not bet-n done . Ha had studied loog the feelings of the working and ¦ jni &dfiug ¦ das * " * of tbe ccsrolry , and he was assured that they never would be satisfies until they obtained a more complete system of representation . The Bon . Member a . T-rte < i to die disturbed state of the Oieai& die collieri s «! Durham and Sunderland , in proof of la * acretti n . ¦

      General JOHNSON cordially concurred in the mrayeeef tfcis petition . They must do one of two thisgd , e&a « r grant tie people their right * , or re-E » re taeni frsm taxation . He h&d no doabt that -was the keneat , true , ar-d ;« £ t gtate of the case . How ¦ far it whs expedient to aiopt that Tie 7 , it was for the Government to determine . The Hon . Gentlemnn opposite aaialained tkat the people were entitki to no rights at 2 IL He heard no Member Uudfl to the foundation of the evils ond-r which the poorer classy Iab # Hred . It was the National Djbt . Until there was & heuse bo coBstitutftd as that it

      ¦ would yrsp ^ le with that aril , the country would gain bo r--al redef . { L *\ igk £ er from the opposition . ) Whether it -arts the Corn Tar , or the nil gwullowiag jnonsbwof the-Consolidated Funi that gwept away tbe resources of the people , made littta diff-rencs . Tb giro them sa&racuofi they most be relierrd from taxatkis ^ and the bset way to bring abont that reftolfwenld be to . give Universal Suffrage—that was , every man of twenty-one , un attain ted by crime , being allowed to vote . " The remaiBder of the petitioners' claims would be granted according to the wisdoia of tho 5 «» s » nt to administer the law * .

      Mr . VILLlt-RS » aid he intended to Tote in favour of tb » oonnssuee , and that the G ailast Member who had j ust * pok # n shoald 001 dc ter him —( hear , hear)—tLsogh he mast saj ^ that if any thing was likely to excite alarm and distrust in the object of the mstlon , it was the sort of language which the Hoa . Gentleman had held with respect to the National Debt . ( Hear , bear . ) General JOHNSON rose and said , that he haa aid nothing that implied an inteation of dealing dishonestly with tif > public debt ; be had onl / spoken of g . e ^ ng with the National Debt . ( Hear , and laurhier )

      Mr . VILL 1 ERS paid it was precisely that expression of " grappling" of which he complained , for he knew tLst it would be misunderstood , and would be construed in a sease likely to alsnn the pnblic creditor . ( Hear , h « ir . ) The Hon . Member then proceeded to in&isl u ^ on the necessity of keeping faith with the public creditor , and said that he regarded ibis motion a * nothing more tba » - to take into coaaderanon lie remedv * hjch " L 200 . 0 QO people propostfsl for th ir own suffering * . ( H .-ar . j Now , really , if there » a . « any icing in fee arg ^ m « -nt against a measure that it w&s not supported by petition . * , which we frequently heard , be c ^ u'd not conceive how a measure . « npporr , "d by rcch & gigantic petition as tlie present , could bs so disregarded as fcr them not to enter iato a consideration of its merits . ^ HearA

      Mr . USWALD s&iJ , if rhey west into committee on tie petition , Eothing could " be gaiced . Thcjiunst of necessinr throw- on : ike fii > t leading principle , namel y , UnirerB *! S-aS : s ^ e . He thought it lather COWaruly to go into censmiuee , and hoii out hopes which mast ke iisappsinted . ( Hear . ) He wO'Ju say there was an overwhelming ia ^ jority in ihj country against Universil Suffrage , a ; id , knuwiu ^ that to be the ferling , he shonli obj .-ct to going into committee . Mr . WARBURTON did rot think he should be throwing auy di > Tej > ntari- > n u ? on the House-if he agreed to go into committee . Thin was n t toe first ¦ case in which gr-r . Ucmen had jrese into committee without agretici to Uiet > riiiciplM submitted to t ^ em .

      i ney had often agr «* d to propcsitioEd in par . ' . He was an rTnivereal-SnrTrage and an Annual-Par ' : iainentmar , bu : be might agree to Triennal P ^ rlia-I e 2 ts * . . ^ t-o ^ d igrbe \ o go into committee on tie Petition , because be thought fnL and fair representation ia P .-. r . i » mei . t was netes ? arv to good jgtw ^ rnT Tyiit . Jjid rfpreseotati ' .-n waj cdIt beneuc : al to bad govertrte ^ t . If ha thought giricg aore exten > iw represantatisa -srould put an end to the NatiotaiD . bt by dishonest means , he should he .-itateto produce that effect , but he did not believe taa ; wcnla be the r .-snlt . He dii Eot think the peanaEers had any dri-ire lo tamper with la .- Nddocai V . 01 , or desrrov the iateresUo- the public creJitor . iflr . ^ AKLEi expre 2 » sea a wish to know watcher

      the Hon . Altmter for Glasgow was opposed to the whole of the iix propositions in the Peurion ? " He did not mea to s ^ y , because he was opposed to ioaseof the propositions , Le could not take the Petition into ccESiderarion . He did net think r e N- - - ' o ] e Lord bad n ^ . V ^ . th ' ; q . e > tion withnnkia < U uesi ; OB tte cenxxBjy , lie Nob : e Lord had met it with fairr . e « 's . Oa& \> oint , however , appeared tcrequire emanation . Wi : h reference to the work unpeople , the X «» bl- Lordsiid he did not believe th -y weie in gr jtrh c .-f- 'r r ! - as bad heen dtakd . The Nobl Lord haa r .-ierrcti to suviegs' bdnis , as a proo ! t . ui cis&esi -ris n-jc » o pivvaUia among the woikinc tusses . But -with regari to the deposits which hai been-stated , he ( Mr . W . ) was oersuadei that t -v

      conld net coiae f ; um the peojsle . bat oiher ? in ^ n / d circumstances , 'ho tock advantage of tL ^ e b ^ k- ! . The wagt's of agricultnral laboorerH in Dev . r ^ ain * were ¦* & * . 01 j * . a w «? ek , and did the Noble Lord believe lhat B-n ch person * could make dc ^ oj . is xu the differeat j > ari * Les } Wu it possible for a man . with > « e and family , to tupporx them ac 7 ^ -P ? r « eek , and put mon ^ y in the sa vings'bank :-1 lie thiflf was ippoisible . What vras tas condition of » grienltnrrl iaooaiers ? In tke nfi ^ bonrbood oi the aaetropolU they were in the dee ;* st distress . A tarxoer oi thirty years standing told him that Le had nererknown tfee labourer * in the state oi' destitution under which rhey were now suffering . In a i&xm within ten miles of LDaaoa . the libourew wire

      inddied together in L&rus and sheds , iii the greatest . distress . ( Several iltmbers exclaimed , " 1 ' b- y are harvest raen . " . ) Tiie Han . Menibc-r kue ir ^ iey ' vrere "Larrest niei ; , but IU 63 * wera in rags and tL « mojt OEJSrra'ble state of p _ v ^ -rty . VitiTre ^ sect t * the ipetiuon then before the Hocsp , tewi * h--d to know whether the petiticiirri liad the slightest chance of redress ? WL y did th « - y not give the people the jvower of returning persons who would legislate for i&eii own interest , and t ' aer w ^ Qld wielJ the power sokmgas the p ople suffered them . He did not wish to urge the people ta act « of ou ; ra £ e , but be iie ? er wonlj sanction a gross delusion . He should say to thrm dontts nGyourpetiiiacstoParliauient . Hi should aid , ciiCUi * your grievances ' , make knownyiur wrcigs ; make : rieads of jour laojurers ; obtain tha co : iiaence of tLe micdi ¦ cli ^ se * of society ; and , final It . ycu miy su-ceei irfeobtainieg

      your rights . Thej might as well pe ' . itkn the rock of Gibraltar as petition that bov > e . it wa * n mockery he could not sanction . Hesfiid this with a knowledge of the real state of society , and should sopport the motion for a committee . Mr . F . ilAULE said , be kcew the people of Scotland were opposed to what wss called tke Pec-ple " s Charter . Ti : t ; Hon . Member Lad * aid , the people were nr ^ ei to piefer the petition , because xhey were unable by their wag ^ s to snppcrt their familks . In Scotland the wages of labouring men were yuct as to easblr-them to support th ; ir franilie ? , and he rea lly tidwi » h tliey bad Savings' Banks as in England . The Hon . Member for Fin * bury stated , lhat otber persoc * than the labourers wer » making de ^ sita in theSavings' Bank * , but that " ¦ as aoc the opinion of the Chartist * , or -why " did they reeca » eed withdrawing their deposits : ( Hear , tear . )

      Sit -THOMAS D . AC LAND enured into , a et&Kmfiit to show mit . although the toniinal wagrts of the agr ' culiiinii labourers in Devonshire were oaly 6 s . or ' *¦ a-wetk , the actual ad % -antages they enjoyed mu * t be e » tiniated at a mnch higher rate . Forlrstance , in adriidoa to their weges , they had allowance * fcrliqncr , for fuel , for rent . He did not BIPntkm thf > s 9 cuenmstances in Tisdieation" of the rery low mle « f nominal wages to which ih 9 agricultural labourer was reduced—a . rite olwages which be had always deprecated , and alwars wished to increase ; but merely to gxard the Ho ^ se Hgiicst being led into a complete sta'e of delusion , by the rery broad statements of the Hon . Member for Finsburv .

      Sir JOHN YARDE BULLER confirmed the gtatement of tb = Hon . Baronet . wbo had just sat down , a ^ dmcEtior .-. d . as an aiditional adraEtage te ths labonring clashes in Deronahire , that they were allowed their wheat at a reduced price . Where these advantages were not allowed , the rete of wages rasged from 1-2 * . to 15 a . a-week . Mr . SCHOLEFIf . LD was wholly inaudible . He wan gcpp 3 se \ ito soppnrt the peridoz ; . Mr . THOMAS ATTWOOD aro ; e , aisidstloud criejj of *• Quefiion ! " aod " Divide f to reuir . H .

      observed lhat with renpect to the argument fouiidedon the amount of deposit * in javbegs' banks , and wh cb it had bcec cou- ^ ndei yroed 'Jiat tU ^ libonriag claims were in a pro-s ;> exon--i coDdiuon , he hr ] d it to be altojetlwr fallacioui . By tke retaros laid oa the table of the House , it appeared th 3 t the whole amount of tho-. e deposits was abcut t *_ enty-two millions ; but out of this mo . only two millwnscoEsisted 01 deposits nnder £ 20 each . 11 was , therefore , perfectly ridiculous to say that this was any proof of the prosperous condition of tha labouring clawes . It wa * the rich who were profiting by them . The Hou-e then diriied—Fjr the mjtioz ... w Against it 235 Mojorry against tie motion ... ——

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      The Cablow Election Committib . —The inquiry btfere the Carlsw Committee , which terminated on Thursday , when Mr . Gisboroe was declared duly e ' : ec : eri , lasted for tixty sin * dayt t * ad w the longes : \ v tfce hietory of Qiflpatro ItlMns , Tfa * cwt has been estimated at £ 30 , 000 ; the Jfcr « ' »/ , Chronicle says £ 20 . 000 , _____^_ _

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      THE ARGUMENTS OF TYRANNY . { From Sftellsi /' s " RcctAt qf Islam" ) FOB « ver , while the snn w »< c ' . unbiag iiekven , The feor » amea h-rted onr iinaraieJ myrud * down S » lr } y , tho " . when b j thwm ot camige driven Tou near , tfeo » a t . lisc » were ^ vriJtly overthrown IJ » - huudr .-dn leaping on iht-iu : —ti- ^ k &ntl bv > ne Suon mide eur ghaariy rampart * : iben the thalt Ol the aniucry irwtn the » e » w » a thrown Mo . 'e fast and fiery , aad ihe conqueror * Jaupb'd In pride to hmi me vdai oar tcream * of torment w » . fU For on one Me alone tke hill jfart theller , So vast that pbalunx of BucuDquered men , And there the iiv ' wf . in the blood did welter Of ihc dead ani d > inftr wixieh iu th » t great glen , Like lufl-d ton exits , made a plushy fuu Und » r ibe feet—tlru » was tho butcherj waged While the &un elomb heave ,, ' * eastern steep—bat wheni It ' gan 10 tiiiX , a tieT « er combat rx ^ ei , >' ur ia more doub' . fo ) strife the ar ^ ie * were engaged .

      Within a cave upon the hill were found A limdie of rud ^ pikrt , the instrument UI UjCss who war bn : on iheir native ground }• or natural ri ^ hta ; a shout of joyance sent , Eveu from eur BcarU , the wide air piefe * a mi rent , As those few arm * the bravest » nd the best & =: s ^ d , and each sixih , tkvt armed , did now present -A lia ? which cozertJ afsd tutluined tie ri'st , A con&deat phalau ' x , which ihu foes on every sideinviaL That onset turael tie foes te flight almost , But toon they Haw their prnsent » trenifth ( and knew Th < it cvmij , p r . itjht vuxhi tautr resolute host Hfinj txctory ; » o , di . iiui > ustiuj { ctuse , they drew T&eir f ; iii-. rfitj ( n ' es . ami then the combat grew Uncqui ' j bet iar , ut horrible : —» n-l eviT Out injnais , » hcm the swift boh overthirw , Or the red sword , faiird like a mom tain river ^ bjch rasheB forii ia foam to sm . k in B * . ni » for pvei .

      The ground in many a little dell Wm brMi- n , np » Bd down wh < ssstsefs befcl Alternate victory anJ defest , an 3 there The combatants , w ith rage mo « i horrible Strove , aaj their eyes # t < rteii with cntckiDg stare , Aad impoteat their tongues they lolled into the air . •••••• The few who yet survived , resolute aiJ firm , ¦* > cn < i jue iuu ^ ht . At the dcclit- ) of day , \ V inking above si * mi-miiain ' s siiowy term , New banner * shone ; tciey r . nivcr ^ d in the ray OI " the sun ' s un * -en > rWer ' -ii : g ^ t th e array Oi fresh troju heinn-. ed iis in—of ikosc br » ve banda I * x > n snn-ived alone—aiid now I lay Vanquished ir . d laint , the grasp » f blr « dy h » ndi J fell , and san- ou hi ^ h the glar <; of UUii . g LiiadB .

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      TO THE MIDDLE CLASSES OF THE NORTH OF ENGLAND . { . From the Northern Liberator . ] Gentlemen , —\ Ye address you in the language of Woiherhocui , probably for the la « t time . Up le th * very last moment jou oath rbut your *< £% *? # to reason ; but uo « - tbat the layt m iraent for moral appeal ha * arrived , perhaps you vriil listen to this last appeal of the p-ople . V > r . L a f .. l : \ - rba : will fee the worker of future ase 5 , y ^ -j havw placed a biiuj c ^ fijr- ^ c-e in the ^ hi . J Ari . roc-racy- \ ou have surrtnderti into their haads y ^ u : li right of thought , " ana auv decree that fn-. y j . , it : i < t'to smd foMh , \ oa look upon as if it were a decrte ! wni on Lish . "

      AlJ now lt-t ui »> k } ou a few qaestiou ? touehiug thr clai ms wh : ch this A : i > tocracy ba » upon y « ur res'pectacd cnEidecce . Kcfl-ct upon tbe « e questions , » Dd an > ii « fr thrm ! ikn rwn-inal men . Are y' , u and your poH-rity not mortgaged to pay the Wcu . hiii-. r .-riV debt ? ' Are you not comp-jl- ' d to p ^ y , on an arerare , tSree titLes the value for rrej % m ^ a * , v . \ n * . -p-ri : * , te « vj , and erery thir .-jo-j i-oii . ^ ne , ii : crdc to > opport ; be Jt-w sw " icdlc ; s , and a pcrfunivd in > 0 U '_ t Ar stocracj ? Are jou net -bu : oat irom the liiani y « por ' s and mreaiMD * which occe » tre the health and pride of Englishmen ? If , after your pix montUs' coLfisemci . t in tCe ware and eouisun ^ -hous ^ , jou wish for a day ' , . port over the lake or mountain , are you not toici tea : the 5-h , the fuwl , ai ; d the wild animal , a : ) must be preserved for mj lord ' s u .-e and amj .-enieDt , and if you persirt to a *? fTt your Bitural ri ^ ht over them , are jou not puai ? Btd with fine and iinpri ? - nuir , cr ; t ? VVitl the aristocracy associate with ycu—vrill th * y enccre an alliance by marri . ' ^ e , wi ' th wb ; it ttex mpsdentl y denominate yoar ba > e feloid P D . ) ths- ' v eo :, is one word , despise and oppress you as much ai : hcy de . « pi > ed and oppresj the working men , the only difference o- ; rp that you are able , and it would tj-p-ar ic- ; li ., g , to bc . » r the rote , whilst we me J' ; a . ble , a . - _ .- , Uia . ^ k God , neither are we wnbii ^ n . b . nr it ?

      I" not the mosey plundered frcs the pt-ople and «;) t-a : ia the den&uch of the Court , < n the profligacy <> : tie Corui-ect— i « this money , we as » , not vir-* , . '" - a ' ' : r 2 t ' -fJ from your trade and pn-fi :.- ? Vv ould we cirry a * ay t . ur monej to -quarter ; on me dance .-, gamester * , aud prosti : u'es of thr contice-utal citie * , er would we lay it out at home in food , clothing , and other nece'xiry article ? , to the great beuefu of domwoie trade and rcanufdciurrs ?

      "We entreat you , cot for our nake * , bn : for ybur oi .-m , bo : for the sake of oor faniiliv * , but for the > aks of your ou-n tr . ' ri * and children , to take up ihe * e quesiioLs like men , and calmly and ra-ionallv discus- thtir truth or falsehood . ' B-. stu ^ cd they now nuist be either physic-ally or morally—one way or \ hs other—evtn if you are content to remain yuicscent slaves you will be perruitteA to remain 50 no loader . But then c imes your bugbeaT— "If yon , the working mes , bad power in your baud * , there would b * no security for life and property . " One fact , you will yourselves admit , i * worth ten thousand arguments—if thrf > e Uc : i » do not convince too , : n tait -f tfa * OBicg any longer ia altogether out of the question .

      Look to America ; in tfee mercantile states of that repubiic ail power is in the hands of the peopletheir will i « law ; ar . d is the manufacturer le > * safe in his busines ? —tee trarter less secure in hi * prOj > ertj — than in Engiaud ? Why , the very 1 ' a . ultcr American S 3 cie : y is the over encouragement ana importance . hat i * given to iu trade . Look , too , to Svniierland , whose laws must receive the sanction of the whole male population , assembled in arnv , from « ixteen yearn ot age upwards . Whrre is tDe couctry on the face of the earth can boast ir . oie * eeuriiy for life and propertymore absence cf crime—more positive firtues tdan are to be fouaa in the mountaius } viles , and cit : te of Swirzerlacd ? Loct at the soothing traLquilliiy of tbe-e democratic countries , and contrast them witn tbe murderous anarch y , that even at tbij moment cesolktrw ariBtocratiC Spain .

      Dear are our families to ns—dear our humble homes—our feelings are ag human a * your ownand if compelled 10 take the field in -vindieation of oar pxcred right * , we shall do to with hearts yearning far cur ht- ) - . ! e * s families , whom many of u « must never sre again ; to this alteruative we are driven by a dire and uncontrollable necessity ; we are not " me » of btood . " But blosd is on the lasd ; it falls * ritbont a record ; hefca . tcmbs—upwar-js of ljt } , OfO eouls—are yearly sacrificed to famine and a br 'k cn heiri ; ine old , the hel p ' -ess , the ujresistiijg die , and do mai writes their epitaph .

      li you be i-.-t as blind—as hardened of heart as eter Phattob was of olti , you must perceive that a mighty , a thorough , a Hid'cal change must now vtry J'peeaily take p lace in the constitution of society in these Island * , a change ubich it is not in your power to avert , though it is in jour power to give it a pcaetfal character . Dc you call the courage of the people in question ? * \ Yhy evea the Tory TiHies acknowledges that •' contetup ; of death is natural to every errand-bv > y in England . "

      But it is tot a question of courage we are distujging now , it is » question of necestity ; watch yonr own child as with tearsit implores for a morsel —see tbe eye of yojr own wvfc or water gTo * dim with famine—feel bungtr tearit g yonr own vitalsthen hear tbe shot-peal calling you to death or freedom— opening to you a chance of escape from tbe hell you endure , ar . d jou will rusk into the shock , of bittle , witb a jay bordering on madnew . And what will be the result of that strife of blood wfcich you alo ^ e ca n a * er ; ? If EUCceFsful , the people \ dil look on . their fallen brotbeis , and apostrophise their mangled remains ; hu * : — " Well ! you were sacrificed by the middle classes ; they could bave saved you , but they would not ; they afsitttd and encouraged tbe arittocracy to murder you ! Let desolation dvrtll in the homes that made joct homea desolate ! " Wiadle classes ! Tengeance , swift and terrible , will then overtake yon .

      On ths other han-3 , ghou ! d the people of England be put down—suppojin ? , for a iHOHient , the impossibility — what then ? Wby , to u « e the words of more than one " Whig journal , they will " DISPERSE IN A million of ixc £ KDIAUIES , " your warehousesyour homes—will be given to the flames , and one black rain overwhelm England ! Are you prepared for this ? If yon are content to be trampled and spat upon by the Aristocrasy — if y&u bare no pity for your brothers and sistw , «" the humbler walks of life-if you feel not for tit myriads who annually perish of cold snd buogefstill ask yoflrselTee , are you prepared to KeyW o * ihomes in a bl »» s— j »* rproperty gi \ eBt » fltmrt , icd bo Insurance to redeem it ; yeuw » lv «» , perhaps joarwirei a&d children Bbriekjpg U > midnight ^ j » t-

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      i-iws ur 1 bat mercy whicn in ttie da . ) ui juur jwvier youdenied to them . Praying that God , vrh » endowed you with common sense and human feeling * , will free your rnioeis from prejudice and dispose you to do your day in this terrible crisis , We remain , ( if not yonr own fault , ) Your sincere friends , THE COUNCIL OF THE NORTHERN POLITICAL UNION .

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      - ^^^ — W ^^ W ^^ ^^^ ^ Bh W ^ Thursday , July 11 . The Convention assemblei this morning at elteren o'clock , when Mr . Moift waselected chairman . Mr . Caupenter moved , that Mra . Lovett be requested to discharge the duties of secretary , in the abonce of Mr . Lovett . He bad spoken to M « . LorettopoB the subject , andahehad expressed l « r wiliu » gnes > i to occupy . her husband ' * place . He ( Mr . C . ) thought that such a step being taken by the Uonverition , would have a great effijet npon the rairjd « of the people and especially of the females , in diifuient parU of the country , when thev saw that a woman , like Mrs . Luvett was ready to « tep mto the gap made in the Coaveation by the arrest of her husband , the women everywhere would \> s encouraged and excited to do in like manner , and the most important conwquence * would foliow .

      Mr . Warden having seconded tho motion , it wa « put and carried . Letters were read from Leamington , from Mr . Harcey , and from Mr . Golding , after which the delegates proceeded to the transaction of various business , but the proceedings were not of such a nature aa to be capable of being reported . Amongst otk r things doiey was the appointment of a committed ot three , to ^ ut in bail for Mr . Lovett , so as to obtain bis liberatiDn from \ Varwick gaol . Friday July \ 2 th . Tfce delegates assembled at ten o ' clock this morning , when Mr . Tillay was elect d Chairman , tin- Mr . Hartwell , in the absence of Mrs . Lovett , secretary . After some preliminary business had bt-cn dispatched ,

      Mr . Hoodbouse rose to brin ^ forward the following resolutiou : —" That it is inexpedient to nbaL . don the just principle of represur . ration emboH-d in the People ' s Charter . " Mr . \ V ., in alon ^ md able speech , urged npoii the Comentiou the nece . » ijty ol standing out for this principle , and rxpressej bij * r « gret that Mr . Attwwd , and theoth ' r members of Parliarat-nt who had expressed their nciiuiescence in the National Petitioi :, should have objected to this just and wholesome principle . A long dijcuyaion ensued as t » the propriety of pacing such a n-eolution , several members deeming it to bi unnecessary , as no idei kid ever bean outertuned of giving up tho principle . Tho resolution was ultimately agreed to , however , Mr . James Taylor prot'siiag against it , as a foolish and uhnecessarj thing .

      ELECI 1 OJJ OP -VEWT DELEGATES . Mr . Bussey then moved the following resolution : — ' * That t-. e G-nvention recoinmer . d to the country tV . o immediate elt-clion of delegates b y the various cirsiituMicies tc the General Converiti . - . n , such tlelegatet : to be held is readiness to take their places oa the removal of any of tb ;> ir present delegates by arrest or otherwise , and al » . o that those part * o ! the kjcpdom which have not hitherto elected a repreieutativj to sit i f su

      Mr . Maksden a ' so objected to the motion , npin a Mmilar ground , and moved as an amendment cunt the following address be issued to thu cmutry : — "Men of England , ScoUau- , and Wales , —VW accepted , tbe ( situation now h « ld by us , on the faith of your promised protection . You will see now how rnticti that protections needed . We waut not blood such a wish is foreign to our natxtTes ; but though we desire not the b ood of our enemies , neither can we permit ourselves to be tamel y victimised , for the -ake ol saving the live * or property of thesa who hfive long uhewn a perfect reckiej ? in »« is , both as to our ii ve ^ , ! md oDrlabour—the ouly property we poss , «• Arrestafteranestwnow takinjj place , and our mi >

      inber ^ , cnier these arrests , treated with the greatest ltidjguity . Tbe trialuof the arrested will speedily take place ; and howeter just—n » y , however l ^ g « a may Lave bern our act . * , we honestly declare that our confidence in law administration is not sufliciently great to lead cs to anticipate an acquittal ¦ witbont yonr powerful display in onr favour . Your omnipotent shield ii therefore required , and should ouuB (» oi : s or banishment be the result of then * * trials , the auvu will at once cease to ring , 'he sNuttie to ply , aud ycur every varied occupatioa be deserted , not only until the Sif » -ty of the adv > citea of onr righteous cau «? is easur-d , but until our great principles » hall be carried into effect . "

      Mr . Lowry supported the motion , which he thought would bo of considerable benefit to the car . so . Mr . LJurjjs and Dr . Fletcher strongly objected to th « amendment , as beiug atence rash and timid . Mr . Marsdbn asked p « rrni » sion to substitute the following for the amendmfut he had wivenin : — ** That the country , inate&d of procet'Uuig to the election of new delegatei " , do at once proceed , in the ca * e of further arrests , to the carr / ing out of all the ulterior meannren . " The ameodment waa then pot and negatived . Dr . M'Docall moved' another amendment ^ to the eff . ct , that ihe Conv . ntion should proceed to the nconuideratisn of the >; reat ulterior measure , without reference to tho arrest of d-leftatp * , leaving the election of new delegates for the considBrulion of the people .

      AHer some dircnssion the amenlment was put , and negatived . Tho origiaal motion was then put and carried by the cisting vote of tho Chairman .

      BCOTCB DELEOATES . Mr . Burns moved arenolution toplnce the Scotch delegates who atrended ths Mmulta »>» ous meetingr « , apon the same footing aa tho missionaries seni t < j those meeting * . Some discussion tock place upon the naolion , and tho previous question having been moved , was carried by a large majority . The Convention then adjourned .

      Saturday , July I Ith . PROPOSED ULTERIOR MEASURES . On Saturday , a numerous meeting of the Members of the General Convention wes h # ld in Bolt Court , Fleet Street , with the view of takiag into conndvratvon the propriety of fixixg en a day for tbe commencement ot the Sacred Mont ' -, or Month of Re ^ t , which had been resolve ! upon b y large meetirgs of their . Jnititoentf should be held as oue of the ulterior Chartint measures . Mr . Osborne in the Ctiair . Mr . Lowry rose to propose a resolution on the subject . He staged , that the debate in th « House of Comiaon * afforded a proof , —if proof were wautir . g , —that nothing wa * to be expected from that House

      ior the benetit of th

      cess-a-ior . from labnr among the working classes , the great point to be considered was the best day for corr , nwnciDg it . He had travelled through Scotland , Cumberland , and Westmoreland , and found that the Chartists in those parU of ths country were ol opinion that it shoald begin when tho com was ripe and the potato ? s were in a condition to be ing . He would , therefore , in conformity with this opinion , propew the following resolution- ^ namely—** That the House of Common * having relosed to go into committee on the prayer of the Natio&al Petition , it it vain to txpect redress from that Horue ; it is therefore the opinion of the N ational Convention that the peopl 8 shoold work no longer alter the 12 th of August next , unless the power ol voting fcr Membe r * o ! Perlia-ment to protect their labour u guaranteed to them . "

      A Mehbek seconded tke motion . Ac other Mfmbek was xpeaking in support of tie motion , when a message was commtimcated to the Convention that Mr . Attwood aad Mr . Fielden wished te bave an interview with a deputation from the Convention on matters of great importance . A deputation were accordingly appointed to wait on the Hon . Gentlemen at Mr . Fielden ' t hcuseiu Pantoa-square , and daring their absence the discession of the question before tho CoLvention was postponed till they should return to the meetinc

      On their relnrn they stated , that in their introduction to the two Hon . Members thej asked what the Chartists oBght new to do ? Mr . Attwood ' s opinion wpg they shoold eontmae to petition the House ot Commons . ( Laughter . ) lha members of tbe H . ^ usa of Commebs who spoke on th > previous night had d « nied that tie petition was the petition , of tlvs people , i ^ ad ¦ feer ; fore , he thopfiht thej ought to get to p ^ tinocs in all iho paiish » 8 of England . The Hon . Gentleman had also said that the Chmtist * bad injured their cause tyr tbe violentlao | Oi | e made ose of * t feme of tUeir

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      uieeiiugs . lo the nwi point Uw * i | ia : uuui , uu 7 that tn * y would never pefttiun again , as they tound ! twa » ot aoMB . To the seconTpoint their answer watt , that they as a bod / could notbeh-sldrespou ^ ble r or individaal expresswrns . The Hon . Gentlemen s-emed them ^ lves to b 8 of opinion that nothing but tht prawvrefam withont would ever secure for the people their inalienable rights . At this ste ^ e ot tha proceeding * an announcement was nad * . Oat Mr , Crooiey , the doorkeeper cf the Convention ,, had ju » t been arrested by tte poUce . and had beea taken to Bow-street . The announcement producpd agreat sensation in tie meeting , and two member * were forthwith appointed to proceed at onee to- Bow-street to ascertain on what charge their officer kad been atregted . Just a » they ha * . takon up their hata and were on the e ? e of their departure , the doorkeeper , supposed to be immured in B « m « - < rln . - » m ^ mm ^ mm ^ m ^ m ^ m

      dungeon , made his appearance . ' It in impossible to convey any idea of the uurpriw which was fek at the circomstancei It turned out , on an explanation of the mwtenoua matter , that having been oat on . an errand , and coming through a narrow passage , he ^ awapolusemanuiing a bo y'a donkey and-cart to u e . *^ ? C yar < 1 V * ad " ^ ** Y «> greatdistregs , he-told the policeman that he » aould lei thedonkey and itj apwndage go , and contest kimself with takiBg thejiumber of the vehicle . On this he Himself was taken into custody , on a charge of obstructing the police m the execution of their duty > On ranching the Station-house , however , and statins the circumstance * , the inspector let him go . A letter wan then read from Dr . Taylor , stating that the organisation of tie ChartwU for the- aj £ proacmng eacred month was going on . in the mannlactuncg districts like a house on tire . The debate on the national Sacred Month wan tasc resQiceJ .

      Mr . Deega » thought the Convention should be very caretnl that they fixed the proper day for commencing the uuiversal cessation rrom labouri They should remember that some Radical husband * had iladical wives who would compel their husband * to work for , tbeir Radical children . Some of the pruvioss speakers-recoaimeuded thorn to wait till the potatoes wero ripe . He concocted in the propriety of that st < -p , fa .- he was very partial to potatoes , he was particularly fond of that root . Mr . MoiRsaid that tho question bafore the

      meeting was a very important one . A sacred montb , with an entii : i and g-ueral cessation from work , would be nothing more nor less than th <* beginning of a ravolutioa . ( Loud cries of he » w , Lear . ) ynWs they took especial cir « to have a proper organbation throughout tho country previous to its commencement , they would laif in t . eir object .. The thing must be general , other win j they lnihgt pull Joan the hows of these opposed to them , and sacrifice mativ liv k , aud yet not succed in obtaLi-; ng their rights . He thought they ought to deliberate

      long amt jwno-isly on such a subject ; . he thought thpyshould devote all nejetweek to the consideration of >« o momeut < u * a . matter . The speaker then proceeded to d ^ nounct ) the national debt and fuaded property . A » at present paid , the national debt wa * an inlamo jM I pnl robbery « f the working clflSROS . and hw ( Mr . MwrV ; constituents were determined to stop the payment of it as -oon as tliny possibly can hear , har ) rand thou let the landowners and fnndhalders settle the matter among themselves as they bent may . ( Laughtfir . )

      A Membkk of th the Convention alsoaJjourned till Monday .

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      A Literal Interpretation . —At an inqurst held near Manchester , a f »>« r days ago , a wiine «« , when tbe oath was administered to him to state the truth" touchiug the death of Daniel Cavanagh , " said with great simplicity , " 1 did not touch him , sir . " Prolific Dock - A cadger at Forth , Cimwath , has a Hue lively duck that regularly lays tiro e"gg at a time ; . « nd what is of importance , the oviturcan breed > uch ducks at pleasure . He sajs , to have tbe doubla-laying breed , you have simply to hatch one bird out ofltou eggs .

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      — . < g ¦ FINAL EXAMINATION AND COMMITMENT OF TIMOTHY HIGG 1 NS TO TAKE HIS TRIAL AT LIVERPOOL ASSiZRS , FOR HAVING ARMS IN HIS POSSESSION . On Saturday last Timothy Higgin ? , was brought np at Ashtou , befcre James Jowett , and William Wri §!* r , Ejqr * ., and the Recorder J . S . R . Evans , ma »; iHtrnteg , to answer the charge of having a quan - tity of arms i a his bos tension for illegal purposes . A largeconcoursa of people were as * pmbled roundthe Court Houg > at the time for commencing the examination ( eleven o ' clock in the morning ) . At alittl . before twelve tho doom of the Court were opened , and there was a general rush © a th * pait of the-people to obtain adiniaiion . Thft Couit wan filled in

      a moment , and great numbers reinainrd outride who cooid not 1 vea get near the door . At this time the military were parading in the Market-place , no doubt having been brought there to be ready m case of any disturbance . They continued parading till examination was over . Preliminaries having been arranged , Mr , Townsend , a barrister , said he appealed as Couasel in support of the charge against this prisoner , and perhaps it would be rr . oJt conv * - nient for him to caft tbe evidence in support of tha charge ngainst this defendant which was for a common law misdemeanour . Beftre he stated the Uw oftbe subject ho would call the evidence first ; and then with the pf-nnisfl on of tho Court , he should wick t o state the law on which h « founded the charge against this prisoner . Mr . Cobbett , who wjm retained fos the defendant , here rose and said—Perhaps the Learned Counsel weuli state what the charge wa . * , .

      Mr . Townsend—My charge ta a common law misdemeanour . Mr . _ Cobbe < t—Trmtis no ckarge at all—because anything not a ielony in a misdwneauour . Mr . Townseod ^ Vttt will hear what it is from the evidence . ,.. Mr . C *» bbett—I must decidedly object to this . You see ( addressing the Court ) 1 cannot tell whpn the Learned Cosusel calls a witness whether all tl e evidence given by that witness , < 3 oc ^ , or dee * not , ia anydeires tend to maW out the charge . Supposathe first witne ** who may be called should doposeto-10 , 20 , or 3 Q faots , if I don't know what the charge is , 1 don't kaaw whether any one of those fncU does or does not go to substantiate the charge ( Hear , hear . )

      Mr . Townsend—Tbe charge is simply for having a quantity of firebar u * s in his possession . Robert Newton , the Deputy Constable of Ashton , was then called , aud wa « proceeding to state thit in consequence of infbimation he had received he went to the hous ? of tha prisoner on Sunday xoprning , tho 30 th of June \ a » t , when Mr . CobbeU rose aud sai £ , he would , pot it to the betch whether th « y thought it right t « go on taking evidence , as the lfarned counsel offered it 10 prove that his client waa in pomseosicn of ^ re-arms . If it were nee . s * ary , he ( Mr . C . ) natht , perhaps , admit

      that those arms were found m Hjggius ' s hoxse . Mr . Jowett—Tke counsel must prove tkat it was for au ill-gal purpo « B . Mr . Towasecd—1 shall fiwt prove the fact , and then the purpose . Mr , Cobbett—At the comraencenvnt of this examiuation , I aiked the Earned Couniel for the prosecution what the charge was , and ke said it was fcr having arms in his po *» ei&ion . Now I bffg again to aitk him whether it be distinctly understood that the charee was tar having possession of these arm * ? Mr . Townsend returned the same answer as before . Robert Newton then proceeded with his evidence , andnaid in answer to quasUons by the coubssI for the prosecution , that it was about two o ' clock when he went to the house of the defendant . He had 5 oTn »* rly been a spinner , and kept a small gretngro ^ r ' - **' opi »» cellar iq Stamford-street , Wore he romoved to the pnwnt house which he now occupies in Brook- ^ tr ^ t . The dogj was shut ei the Mm * tftftt I went ( 9 the bo «« ., J knocked ftt tb 9

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      uojr , auditwadop j . _ . 1 " lii .-. ji USKeJ ^ : er-. » » n j opened tLe dwr ii two doxm ha I not come there . He said not to his knowledge . I then went to a female . Mr . Towsend—Wva the prisoner there , and wa ? tins ia his hearing ? Newton—I believe he was in br > d . Had he brer awake , he might have heard ; but 1 did not see him . H « was aboat fifteen y ^ rd 0 off . By the Magistrate—Was he in the same room ? Witness—No ; butthora was no d (» r shut between wnerel went to the bed-room and saw two brae * lying on the chamber floor , one owned and the other shut . I took a oandlo with m » and saw that tha open box contained- gons and bayonets . There Hiuuuhiewife

      waa . . , and another , whether it was one of his childron or not I dou ^ t know . His wife was m bed with him . 1 said nothing to her There was no one by the door . When 1-saw these boxes I asked him what they wr « doing thery ? I am not aware that he said osoytbing to me before that 1 said , what are these boxed -doing here * and he said he did not know . A ^ iirst he hesitatsd a Httle . Me 8 eem « l to be just ronaing-np . Mr . Cobbett—No » , Sir ,- ] Object to this .. This in an examination ' of the coc * t » tble as-to whaithe prisaaer said to him on hi * -examining hira . lam quite sure tlie Learn-d CoyBsel fer-the prosecution is well aw 8 r 9 that whenever' it appears on trials at assizes , that t ^ e constable ' s examination of ft prisoner is put in as evidencp , h&k reprrmanded } by the Jsdge . I object to this evidence being received on the grsund of the icius « ice of it . 1-a . ra . aware

      that Judges do generally receive such evidense , but crttunlv- aot without reprimsBdiog the constable . Mr . lownsend—The constable would not be repnmaaded by auy of the fifteen Judges . B » ha 8 not put u single question to tho prisoner but such as ae , was justified in putting . lU : ^ Nnwton , goon . Newton—He said he did iiat know what these boxes were doing there . I then said , where Have they come from ? Ha said fromi-. Mr . ThompsonV , of Birmiughaui . I told him I should be obliged to-teke tliatn and him also into my cantody . He then got ttp and dressed . ' I tb ^ n left fci » iouse in po » -e * Hon of gjme officers that I had with ma , and went f : r a cart When / got back , I directed these boxes to be put mto the ceirU and had thim -conveyed to the police-office . When I got to the police-offi ovl examined what quantity of ariEA there was in each box . I took it down at the time * ( Turning ever his Botes . )

      Mr . Cobbett—Now , you must not read th » se notes . Townsrnd—II may refresh his memory . Mr . Cobb- 'tt—Ha mny refref » h his memory with them ; bat I object to his-reading them . Mr . Townsend—Now , constable ,. read every syllable of it . Nevfton then read as follows :-r-J « ne 30 , ] 83 iH Sunday icuri . ing , two o'clock . —Taken from the house of Timot y Iligginn one box ,. abont four feet nx inches Ly one feet s . x inches . It contained seven - teen muskets nnd eighteen bayomfts ; four fowling pieces , wkli single barrels . 1 h the-scoond box . there were four double-barrelled guns , four single-barrt'lied onfts , cno rifle , three pist .- > :. s and one bullet moald . That wi ] everything thnt way in . the boxes . Mr . Townsend—Now , you are going to tell the Court what vou found in tUi- bed-ro . jm .

      Newton—la the bed-rcoia 1 found one hor . * epistol , a brace of small pist-ol ? ,. and three bullet moulds . TLe > e wire in h coraer of the rocm umong sotoe p : tpers on the foor . I . als- > took tho . s » papers into cu . iiody . At the time that I- cftnv > back with tke cart and h ' . rsiv Ili ^ ins said ,. *• Tliore ¦ would be nond of t " sis bother , if " they vrould give us the Charter . " This wa « taii when I- was- g ' oing to tak * him t «> the lockup . Mr . I ' ortn ^ Hrid—You say yon took into your castody a quantity of pap'r ? . V . ' itiH'M— Yes . Mr . Town-cad ( to tho Bwich )—Ear tho ittforma-Hon of Mr . Cobbett , I told him that the charge vc ; i -. "having a-rns ia his poss ^^ s-on . " I am now goii :. ' to . show t >«? intent - ^ ith wbicU he liad tbese arms . To tha tffitr ; -sj—What < li < l you do wita those papers and ths book that yoa featid ?

      Witness—[ entered t-hfia . idl in a . mernornndnm book , and marked each paper according to > the mark in the memorandum book . The pap rs were then banded to the witr ; e « , to ascertain whether sb . - > y were the saaw that he had taken out of Hi « g in * 'i house . Me testifed to them aa beijig tbe samp . At this time on uproar was caused by tho people outride knocking at the doer ; upon which the wirnps * , turning round to some of his . subordinates , told them to go out , and q-. cll tho disturbance , and if the people desuh-jL thev w-r > to tn . bf \ tVmm intn

      custody . The wftnesa then said ^ fchat he bad found a book cnlUd "Defensive Jnstrwcnona for thft People , " anl several : l » tfc ? ra address « l to Tiraothy Hignins , a * Scer .-tary to the llndical Association a " t Ashfon . Some lptters wer « th ^ n handed in , but Mr . TowiifeRd said ho did not wislithun road , unless it wns the wish either of the prwaner or his counsel . 10 the witness—There is one tatter from tfce Rkv . J . It . Stephens , isthere not ? Witaew—There is . Mr . -Cohbcft— You ( wked for a letter sitrr . ed by Tirxothy Hit'gins . Thi * appears to bo a letter addrec . "ed to him .

      Mr . Town , end—This ie » a letter addressed to Timothy Higgins , Secretar y of the Radical Association . Mr . Cobbett ( tc Newtou ) r-You said something about n . letter signe \ hy himself ? Mr . T « wns » nd ( t-. Nekton ) . —Turn to No . 7 , and you wiil Had it . How i < j the letter signed ? Newton—It is « i « a ? d "Elward Hobson , President , Timothy Higgins ^ Secretary . " Mr . Towr .. senti—Ti , ; s is a letter addressed to Mrs . Stephens , of Dakinfield . There is no postmark 011 it . It is a letter with a full addr «>! , bnt it does not He *> m to have been seat by ibe post , but to bs rather a copy : but is signed on behalf of tfee members of the Radical As-iocifitiorlihra / d HobBonPresident ( To

      ^ , , Tiraitby Hie ^ in ^ Secretary . Nawton)—Are there any not a « f th' ir mcutings ? Wita < s . s—Tbere are . eonn ' nel—What raetiticg * ? Witces . s—There are s-jveral meetings . Counsel—Yes ; but for what purpose : does it appear from tie net-n ? ( Tbe papers were then handed to Mr . Townsend . Addressing the Court , he gaid )—It i . ppenrs tne * e aro notes—th ? names of towns in thi- « neighboorhood . " Chairman—oae hundred ce ^ me ; -nb * . ¦» "— " Every we k Precursors become Chartists . " Manchester—peaceably , if poswble . It would app <> nr that they are notes ef speeches made . * Riwson—cowards—traitors . Wild—Would not © ppow a battle . B ? nbow—Peo .

      p ! e , as ^ awins—loosr » bludgeons . " A letter was then h . ? d m from a Person joamed Joseph Millwood , of Birmingham , a gunsmith , who had offered to supply Hig . vins . with guns at cost price , so as merely to c ^ verjourn ? yman ' 8 wages . Mr . Townsend then asked Newton whether he remembered a meeting in Ashton ? He said ho did , on Saturday the 20 th of April last . Thei © were banners , but he could co t * recollect what the inscriptions were . Among the flags there was a black one with a cap of liberty on it . There were u » well as he could judge , about fivsi or six thousand persons . There were bnnds of music , a procession , and firing of . pistols . Th ^ procession commenced at Picket ' s lane , and returned through several stroete to theMarket-plac ' . > . I heard speeches dehvu-red Tby M'Douall and the prisoner , but L was net near enough to hear what was gaid . There were pistols fired at intervals during the whole meet-1

      ing . . ho . meeting was hold in the evening . Tibere was 6 h # » tis : g and applause . Mr . Town scud—Yon say that before this Higgios . lived in a cellar . What was Ms trade ? ^ 0 sold ere » groceries This was about four months ago . He cm secretary to the Radical Association , bui 1 was not aTcare that ho was engaged in any business When I weiit to his housn he had no op ^ n s ^ op for the sale of these arms . I do not know that \ . o "leak in th « se artisles for Mil " . 1 ; am depu , ty constable of Ashton , and he conld not have bail a shop , without lay knowing of it , ior tke sale of theseam * an ! guris . A sxall p : acard colling a meeting of spiraets and rovers « as then produced , and a nandbiU caifinga meetiuK in vnp ^ rt of the Conveniiou ^ h » tl » of which , were found in Higgins ' s hoas ;' .. Tjheso b ^ ng put in as evident , tht ^ Learned . Counsel said he bad no m « re ciiestions t-j nsk that witness .

      Cro ^ s-examinei by Mr . Cobbett—Well ^ Mi . Newton , on what day was it that you . arrested the defendant ? Newton—O » the 30 th of JSune . Mr . CobbetJ—You sny i » was at two . o ' clock in the morning . . Newton—Yes . Mr . Cobiett—Now , what did von arrest him for J Newton * . ^ 1 \ r having arn ^ a ia ha . 4 po 83 # 8 sion . Mr . Cobbett— How same you to arrest him for that ? Newion—In const ^ uence of knowing him to be a spoakei- at public taeedng ^ smd b « isg secretary to the Radical Association . Mr .-Cobbatt— -Very good . Was that the only re « 3 onyoa had for apprehending him ? Newton considered

      —I it being my duty to tbe public to do so . Mr . Cobbett » -I have not asked yon that . Was that the onii / reason you had for apprehending him t If you had another yoa must say bo . Newtcc—That waa the reason I did apprehend Mr . Cobbett—The only reason ? Newton—I apprehended him for that , Mr . Cobbettr-Was that the only reason why you apprehended Lim ? You can say yes , or no , to Uiat Q \ 2 cSV 10 Us * . ¦ Nowton—Ye » , that wns the only reasbn . It was in consftquance of information , t « Mr wl obbeU ~? \ ve / y wel ! » A » t i » another mat . ler » " hf n was the info ; m ^ Uon received r »» -5 f J" ~ It was recwe ^ that night , Mr . Cobbrttt—At what time ? Newton-li the ^ Magistrates think U neoe » sarv for ma to answer that question I will annwer it . " j V'rP" * P ~™ edon > t tnink » t it necMsary ; we aon ' tihiBkitttaeawydifetenw , *** " *" ¦ w «

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      j . vir . couuott—i ( . u . aii . ca averj gitat ucotu . uiiference . iVJ r . Jowott—Vf ry well he may answer it . Newton—Ic vrr . s about eleven o'cl > ck . Mi . Cobbett—Win 'li i you get it from ? Mr . TovtvSind—1 o jac : totUu qaettiin . Mr . Cobb » tt—Well : art you going t » prodncs the individual who gava you that information ? Mr . Towns » nd—Ndwton , yoa will not answer any question o ' " that *> rt . I uppsnr here as Coansel for tbe project ! iou , and I will take , care that jou don ' t answer improper questions . Mr . Cobbett—Wei ! , did you act upon tlSa oeea > sion of your own head . , Newton—Yes of my own head surely .

      Mr . Cobbett—Did jon act upon thv requestof any otherpfrson ? . , Mr . Townsend—Perhaps I may raggeit to tha Court that it would be well to caution the wit * es that he need not answer any one of tho 3 ; questions unless he chose . Mr . Cobbett—As the Learned Counsel it to well versed ia law , be will perhaps have " no objoefion ttt famish U 8 with soms reason why the whoc » may no ? answer thesa question * . Mr . Townsend—The constable acts always under irjstructiop » . Mr . Cobbett—Everybod y knows that he oflen aet » without instructions . Mr . Jowett—He is not brrand to answer any question that may criminate himself .

      J Wp .: Cbhbett— Of course be is not bonnd to criminate bunself . ( To Newton ) . Now NewtoB , had yooaay communication ou this snbjfict with any of the MRgistratf s p ' reviouJ / to the time of yoar airestine the pnsoner ? Mr . Townsend . —I object to that nueetion . Mr , Cbbbett—Well , I should like to know aemo reflsoa . There can be no criminating there at aar rate . . , * Mr . Jowett—He has already told you that he acted or his own head . You asked him that queatioaand he aioawered it . Mr . Cobbett—Not the question that I last pat I put it to f te Bench at one * whether I am to haw *

      my < $ aeat > on 9 answered , becau-c it is reosary that that point should be come at . Unless theto h $ om » good reason , and a reason particularly applystg to the question , a witness is bound to answer any question th * t rpaybepu * . to him , particularly on av cro » s-exammation . Now it i * utterly impossibler that I can come ! at the truth of this case , or that auy person examining a vritne ?» could corse to th « truth in any case , ucless'the witness is to aca « vr all the . questions pnt ( 0 him , with only suc ' a « xcv > ptians us tfee law has laid down . Half a * dozea nneatioiw h'ive been objected to by the LeHr .-ed CwroseJ . Thoso objections have been held to be good wijboct one single reason for those objections havirig-be « tt assigned . ( I ^ oud cheers , and erks of * Sil ' nce"fn »

      the Bencb . ) It is not for me to prove tfeat there m any ; law wbv my q-i-gtions should rot bn fJiswere' - but for my LeRrned Friead . "m ^ t he has Dot yt » attempted to do . Every man of the slightest ondetw Ktsndicg know * that the Jaw is , in ail C 5 s .-i » , prma facia , that ap answer is to be givf-n t& rhf » question put ; and it is to be phown by the cunn . sel on the > other eide whether such question is- to b- ? En * w * red or not . Of course I at once except erich qnestioos us might tend to cri : iiinnt 9 n maa's self . UiilMB , therefore , I havfl answers t& the o ^ nesti ^ ns I think prater to put , I cannot obtain jusiice f ; r mv cHenf r iml cftnnct call upon you ' to do that which I know

      you ought to do . ( Load chf > er # , which weteresponded to iroin th >? outside . ) No man vras ewr called upon to state l . eforehsnd what he vrss d'iving . at ; because it" J do that , I pnt the wirnpss oh his guard , and lee hizs . kn-. iw exactly how' to an ^ -wtr my qrisstiors . If ray questions- are to be objected to—ift amtobfttr . ld tbat it does notsignify , and that yoa f ar . not irc'ginp in v ? hat Ta 7 . it relates to tfee matter iu hHn < % and aU fi « rest of it , ir . i& no Mte for ine to cocduct the ca-e at all , it is no u * j for me > to offer ar . ydefenc at all , and I don't kcow whether it m'ght not be better that he should sot . be efended at all . ( Renewed cheers . ) ' r

      Mr . Evans—We hava decided that no question . relative 1 to tv e mutco of iuformatioi ! , cr to his instructions gbould be answered . Mr . Cobbett—I wish it to be understood that , as to ttis qasstion , I dont ask about his instructions . Mr . Tt ; wnB ? nd—Myfriead ' smoraorT is fallacfou * . I gave the reason at oroa that a constable is n-ver bound to disclose tkiit sonrce &f his Lif-rmation . He quote ! « ever « l authositiep ,, amengst wWch were the cases of Hardy nnd Ttustlowjod . He thsn said he s > , ould not object to any question the'Leanmd Gestleman might pat ,. except to caution the witness . . " ... » Mr . Cobbett—Well ,. St ,. it i * &tin a qWstionwttt ^ tn . » r tliat qu'sti n which 1 put to tha wit&ess comes wiU' . in this p- > i : > t of rfi . ^ p . ute . Mr . Jowett—VVbatyouare aiiningati * as to wifiro he cot his iaformaticav

      Mr . Cobbett—WrmtLam aiming at is just what I nm anxious r . i'khpf yon no ? the witiiess should see . ( I ^ anghter , aud hear *) , Mr . Jowett—I don't see the- bearing of it . ' -, Mr . Cobben—Itiis-niy . wish t >» at you should not see the bearing of it . ( : To Newion . ) My yzc » tion was , Had y ^ u any conamuoication w » ti » tbe ma giBtrates previous to arresting the d « f « ntiamtF . Mr . Townsend—I ; object te thst . Thfr > a « wer to that qu ° stion r if answered in a certidu # ayv aught render the witness liable-to an acti n ;« tsik therefore , I only cantion the witness that ho -n / ed nofr answer that question unless he wishe * . - ^ . ' J& Nevrton—I don't wish-to answer ' Qiat qSfeftaa , Mr . Gobbett- ^ Weil j . y-sa went aboht t * 6 o'clock

      in the mornins ; . Had you anybody witfc you ? Nowton—Yfs . ' * ' Mr . Cobbett— Who ? . Newton— , A . nninber . ' of my officers . Mr . Cobbett—Who are they ? Newton—Aesistant soustables . ( Several voice cried ocfr j ^' -b-ani-bailies . " ) Newton—No , they wep ' nt buin-bnlies . ( Laoghter . ) Mr . Cobsett—How many were there ? Newraa , — Six > or s ? wa . Mr . Cobbett—About six or seven ? Are you rare there ware not more ? NfvKton- ^ -Tifiere were abent that onmW .

      Mr . Gobbett—AJbaot thntnu «* ber ! Why can't you tall exactly . ' Ma- Norton . ? Newion—I eid aot take particular notice ho * mahyj . took ? S » xor j » evi-n , I thir ; k . Mr . Gobb-tt—Had they uny arms with th « m ? Nawton—Yps ^ stave . " , f cupp ^ sp . Mr . Cobbsttr—Tou RuppoH .: ! Whea > fon take a number of men cot with you , do you . neither know how- many there-arc , and whether they have got arms , and what arraMaey have got ? Newton ^ -lt is customary to take arms witfe tiicun . ' - ¦ . ¦ . ¦

      Mr . Cobbett—Yon don ' t know anythicg about any cutlasses ? - \ Newton—1 had a cutlas 8 on . Mr . Cobbatt—And , for anytbine you know , theT mi > hthav » . bad ? Newtonr—1 think not . Mrs Gobbett—Now -when yen . got to the door what did you , do ? Newton—At the time Ifcrstwent to the d ? or I had . no . cutlass on , nor none of those who wer * there . Mr . Cobhett—When , you first went to . the hoose , wbat > d'dyou do ? Newton—I rapped at thadoo 7 " .. Mr . Cobbett—Was it tthutup ? 3 Newton—Na , there waa . a light in . Nir . Cobbett—Who opened the doev when yom knocked ?

      Newton—Some person that was insid * . ( Alaugh . ) Mr . Cobbett—I soppo . ' e * o . Who was it ? JNewton—] t was a man . Mr . Cobbett—Indeed ! Do you . know his name ? Newton—No . Mr . Cobbett—Now ,. Newtos ,. how long had ytm . baoxn the prisonea-to have lived there ? ' Newton—What * , at that hoase ? - I did'nt know tbat he lived there at : the timo when he opened th » door . - . ' Mr . Cobbett—Then you did Dot know how long " the man liad lined there ? Newtoa—I did not . , . Mr . Cobbett-=-He might have lived there a twelr » month for aiy-tbing you , know . Newton— $ « mijshf have lived there a twelve month for an ythicsr 1 know . Mr . Cobbett—Now , yon did not ask the name « C the person who let you Hi ? Newtea . —No . :-. ,

      Mr . Qobbett—Wa » there anybody iu the ro « K besides the man that let you in ? . Neviton—Yea . ' ' ' ., Mr . Cobbett—Do you know any of them ? Newton—No . Mr . Cobbeit-sWhowerehi ? r . l ^ ewton—There ¦ vraa a woman beside * runt . Mr . Cobbett—What did yoa say to him whes itt let you in . - ; •; Newton—I asked him if two boxa » Jiad con * there ? He said he did not know that $ em had . Mr . Cobbett- ^ Have you a relation called If aae Newton . . ¦• .-. - -

      NewtoE ^ r-I haT « a brother called Isaac Newton . Mr . CoibeU —\ Vbat business is he ? Newton-r-A shopkeeper . ' . ' ¦ . Mr . Cobbett—Do ?« he mako anything ? Newtorj—He is a shopkeeper . Mr . Cobbett—Aye , but you know « obx » bus : make thi&gs an well as keep shops . Does he makft hats ? Newton—No . Mr . Cobbett--What does he sell X Newton—Flour and meal . Mr . Cobbett—He employ a some people towwk for him does h * not ? ; Newton—Nobody , I believe , except a female servant .. . ¦¦¦ .. ,- •• " - . Mr . Cohbett—Now , w 3 l you swear th » k yo » don ' t know th *^ your brother Veepa a man . to work for him ? Ne ^ efti-Yes ; I s wear It : Wowtlwled i * our eighth page ]

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      TO IBB EDITORS OF THE NO 1 IHEEN 6 TAB . Gentlfmen , —This borouRh , at last , appear * to be rai < mg it < head . The industrious artizanB have , by a bold iffort , callt d a merting of the working clasps , having first placarded the town , and , I am proud to say , that numbers are daily adding to the glorious f-au « e . Never ww there greater opposition Khown by the uom uiering faction than at this place . Every engine was set to work , so that the attempt might prove a failure , but the brave fellows , in despite of threats , acted as by a uwgic fpell , and meet they would , and the piare was crowded to suffocation . Delegates from Ipnwicb

      , Mr . M'Pherson aid WiJsoD , spoke with energy , which told upon the minda ef the hearers showing tho necessity of combining our effort * to obUin our inalienable rigbt * . If the Convention should he sitriEg in London shortly , I think they would do well to come to a resoluion of visiting these . southern counties ; there is a growing desire ia the rural dictri ^ ts to joi n in tbe great natioF . ai cause , and ouly wantu the matters fully explained . We want help , aurf sir , we do hope you will ' give this our opening meeting , all the assistance you can by inserting it in your invaluable paper < he Northern Star . AN OPERATIVE . ¦ Sudbury , July 10 , 1839 .

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), July 20, 1839, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1066/page/7/