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tfBVB&AXi COOTXarTXO * . Motdaif , April 23 . Mr . Colusb , Delegate from Biimingbim , in the chair . The mmites of k * t a * ' proceeding * -were read , uta confirmed . MftXIBGHAil DEFALCATION . —THE fcsBfc A ) at | er "was read from Mr . Mjuiu , stariB , in reply tea *» esUoo jpgardirg the deficiency in the jsgMPgwun acconaU , that he * m appointed a tooAe ^ of lie Nancmal Rait , but that Le never bad TBooisoa an ^ of the cootriborioiis , and that he mu » i mer the ConTBo ^ oa for particulars tu Messrs . Grebe aod Preeootk the broken .
OORRESPOMLESCE , Lettea T « re read from . Nottingham , etatmg th « OartisU in that place were Btoceedvng'io-elect a Delegate , in place of I > r . ^ ade . From jFctffer , Ogquotafarajive of confidence In the CWrfaxjou . From Pajismonth , stating ( he neceKsity of iLstemin&dBR pofiticaii ltno « ledf e imong the people in that neighbourhood ; * nd it also vas expressive oi confidence in the Convention . Mr . O'Coskor reported to the Convention that he had bees at a public meeting at Doikicf , oh Saturday sight last . Although sotice had betn merely given by sending round tke bellman , in canseqneace of his ( Mr . U'Connor ' s ) name being mentioned , the masters-sriihheld jwvment from the workioeii tmtfl a Tery late hoar , to prevent their attending .
However , they had an immense assemblage , having sued die largest room in the Vown , and there weru wreral masters also present—well-dres » ed men , ami sham * in tire prouder , whether Whig or Ton . He ( Mr . O'Connor ) had explained to the meeting the objeetxof the Charter , and in consequence of the proceed ing ! at Devizes , he had felt it Li * doiy to prrtawe mat if any attempt were wade 10 report to it , he wa » preftami to resist force by force , and that he was determined to * t * te his opinion to the meeting at all hazard * . Hu reception had been very gratifying , aod . rhw was a nna&imoos determina tion to adopt fke principled of the Charter . ( Hear . ) They had prerioo ? ly been comparatively ignorant of tne objecU of the Contention , and expressed mnch pleasure at the prcgress their cause was making .
RSIfiXATIOX BF THB DELEGATE FOE PERTHSHIRE . Mr . O'Cosxoft said he would bow call the attention of the Convention U > » nother « tb > cr , the resignation of Mr . Matthew , Delegate for PettUbire . It appeared that he had been written to for the purpose of ascertaining when "he vronld return to the Cunventioo , aod the answer was that he had resigned hi * DW . Now , he thought , this letter should be taken notice of by the Convention , more especially as a grant « f £ 20 had been lately mace . A Member , observed that the money had never been paid . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . ( yCoxxoa thought an address ought to be Committee
prepared by a , to be appointed for that purpose , to the men of Perthshire , calling npon them to ekct another Delegate . H e for one wa * not at all dianaywd by the resignation of Mr . Cobbett , !>»» Wade , the Men of . Birmingham , or Mr . Matthew , for he had aodonbt the great bulk of the people were with them . ( Hear , hear , hear . ) Mr . O'Connor eond& ^ ed by irabmitting a motion -for an address to the men of Perthshire . Some discussion took place a * tu the propriety ef entertaining the question , an the ground ci the Convpntjofl not having been officially apprized of the resignation of Mr . Matthew , and on : ae motion of Mr . . Barns , the question was postponed .
JUHW 8 ATXEK 3 IS 6 TOK C 0 * MOX . Mr . Sn » M begged to ask whether a letter bad ' been received from the men of WandWorth . announcing a meeting to be held that day at Kennington Common , to elect a D . lerate , and requesting the assistance of die Convention ? The Chairman replied in the affirmative . Mr . Wills submitted that the ? had nothing to d » with the election ef a Delegate by any body of men .
-iPPOIXTMEST Or MISSIONARIES . Mr . Deecas said the Committee appointed for thepnroose of reporting upon that subjuci had never assembled , and therefore he had no report to make . Me submitted that as the motion for the appointment of the Committee had been carried by only a small majority , it would be as well to pass it by for the present . Mr . Warms thought the proper cource wonld be to convene the Committee , and mate the suggestion to them . Mr . Lovett thought it wag a very slovenly way of doing business , and that it «< a great neglect of duty not to have assembled and prepared a report .
Mr . Frost , as one of the Members of the Committee , would saggest the postponement of ihe creation till to-morrow , when they would be prepared with a report .
THE PEOPLE S CHARTER . .- Mr . Mills said the Committee appointed to arrange tae presentation of the pennon to the Member * at Parliament , to whom it was te- be confided , had nearly completed its arrangements . Mr . LovAir said the 61 embers of Parliament to whom the petition was to be confided , were recommended vo bring in a Bill embodying the principlt-s of th- Churfer . They should recollect , kowerer , that the Reform Bill had been destroyed in detail ,
and if they allowed their Bill to be mangled in i $ ta manner , it woald ^ be just sueh another piece of humbs « as the Reform Bill . ( Hear , hear . ) Dr . Fletcher woald ask whether tie people of Eegland coald « ecare the Chart * r being adopted in all its inviolability without the assistance of the people in Parliament . If the five leading principle * of the Charter were adhered to , he thought there would be no obje ction to some modification in the details .
The Chaibmak said the conversatien was altogether irregular , these being no question befcre them . FIJJAKCES . " Mr . Rogers then read the report of tke receipts and expenditure , which showed a balance in hand of £ ] , W 6 0 * . 4 d . Dr . Fletcher handed in two guineas National Rent from West Bromwich . The Chaibmax announced that Mr . Robert Homes had paid a eecond subscription of £ 1 . ( Cheew . ) Mr . PmETHLT moved , that on Friday next , aad on fnture Friday morning * , the name * ' of the Delegates be called over at eleven oclo . k , or earlier , aad that a retarn be made a * other days of their attendance . Mr . Mbalikg wcon ^ ed the motion , -vrhich , after a short conversation , was carried .
ABSENCE Or MEMBERS . Mr . Feabgc * O'Cossor then rose to move , ** That no Member of the Convention should , from thi * day forth , be tent on the business of agitating , or as- a missionary , until after the presentation of the National retitiim . " Before entering into his reason for brinfiDg on this motion , helnust complain that the notice , which he had given ten days before , had bees-pa&aed over altogether , namely , for a rote of £ 300 , for die purpose of-awisting public meetingi in Whiteon week . He did not find that that notice was on the order paper at all ; but m he had taken the opinion of tereral Members of tbe Convention , asd as , perhaps , it would be advisable to alter the
terms of the motion , he would postpone it for the present , and give notice that he would bring it on to-morrow . He would now proceed to the other » otion , of which be had given notice . On taking down the names in the first instance , it was agreed that forty-nine Membere should be appointed to the Convention , and it was supposed it would be ea * y to keep op titmf number either lrom the working dassefl or from those whose income gave them more time on their hands ; but he found there were thirteen gentlemen who did not attend at all , while there were six deserters . That made tearly one
half of the number originally constituted , and he feared it would afford a strung argument to their enemies , Whigs and Tories , against them , if they coald not insure the attendance of a greater number of Delegates than had occasionally attended . Among those who had never attended , or had only attended once or fric # were , Messr * . Bonce , Wroe , Vincent , Good , Lovelace , Richard * , of tbe Potteries , "id Richard Cobbett . Jf this eouncrr had known that tho * e individuals woold have neglected their duty , tbej would have takan care to p '^ ge tlie Deiegati * that they would atltud tLe Cu&rtf&ucu .
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He did not seek to fill up the places of tho ? e proons who had not attended , but he songht to fill up Ihfi" places of those who had deserted . ( Hear , he « r . ) He sought from this day forth , or as soon as it conW be pot in practice , to bring the whole of the Members of the Convention there , and to make them remain there until alter the presentation of the National Petition . They proved by the last vote of the HouFe of Common * , that the Whig party was stronger than ever , and the whole of tbat strength of the Whigs would be united to oppose every wish and object of the Convention , and the only " means by which they could enforce their claims was by snowing * t all events tbat there was as great a ' eeling among the leaders as there wa « anon ; th *
people . Atene time the Convention . « u iQ advance orpubiK dpmion—it was now behind public opinion . ( HeMypg jfc ) Public opinion bad not received any very gt *» A far from the Convention ^ bu t , < m the i ££ * £ |»* « PP * rent neglect ef Beveral of the M ^ g ^^ nad thrown » . danap on ine « ause . The ltM Of Dirmineham had t&k ^ n op the caw , and determined to repair ihe 1 «« . The men of Penb , m u l ^ xi Nottingham , would do the game . ( near . Hear . ) If this motion was c trried it was bis intention to propo ** , on a future day , tbat they sh « oid net go back to their constituents not having expended their muds , which had been raised at vm great nsk inde . d by many of the working cla-ses " ; and he thoofirt U » t- « o » e-of the * entlemeH reqnired
ahttie lresj , aw ; that tb « Conv . ntion required a little more ~ popnhr - « ontrol . He thought tney had sat Ion * enooghnk London , and > that was his reason tor poKtpQBiaa | tk » moliwa fcr £ 300 . because he should follew it op by a motinn mat the Convention should for the remainder of iu term , be called a per ambulating Convention . He would propose that they should ait in Birmingham for one wet-k , and go to every large town , and from thence to Newcastle ( Hear aad a kogh . ) That might be laughed at . but after tbe National Petition hnd been presented and rejected , London would have done as much nn it could do , and as much as it would do . lint he had nohesitation in saving , that if all ihe Deh gates ha attended from the commHnremt'nt , more would have
been done in London . The cowardice of some , nnd the lukewannness of others , bad thrown a damp or . the cause of the people . The people expected more frim the Convention . ( Hear ) He did nut attach blame to any but tho ** who undertook the trust and had not discharged their duty . Mr . Good , thev were . told , "was ajnutin it in Brighton . That was undoubtedly a grand object , but when Mr . Good undertook a trust he should ducharg- thit trust . Mr . Vincent had been returned as a delegate , and he had only attended one or two day * Mr . Oiborne had been returned as a Delegate , and Mr . Osborne Lad only come as an ambassador to tell the good that had been done and wonld be done . Mr . i / ovelace might be excused because he had given
sufficient rra « on for nil non-attendance . Mr . Whittle had drawn their attention to an act which had been introduced by Government into the House of Commons , and it was necessary the Convention should show they were not afraid , and it was their duty to make a great struggle . They had been talking a long thne about moral force , but hu would tell the Convention that unless they exrrted themselves the people , in spite of them , would have recourse to physical force : and if they did the entire onus would sail on those philosopher . * wbo had advocated moral feree . ^ If there was lukewnrniRe ^ s shown by the timidity of scaae , and the inconvenieace of others , those men who wanted breakttutg and dinner * , and had given their delegates mosey to u-11 them how to gftt breakfasts and dinner ?" , finding that moral power had altogether failed , would get thr ir breakla ^ u and cinners without them . ( Hear , bear . ) Although-thej might tell them the 6 th . of May would be notuing more than tkirmisb , that it would not be the great
day r ? f battle , " yet ir they gat tLere as a mere money Parliament , holding money in tlit-ir hands' , ani : boasting ef tht ? economical manner in which they had doue their duty , while much labour remained unperformed , then tbe people would pay they bausent men who simply hv *> d en the pay they had tnven them—wLo merely wished to prolong tbe agitiition in order that they might prolong their payand they would now take the atfiirji in their own hands . Every newspaper teemed with public opinion from the several villages and towns , and stated that the confidence of tue peopl- in the Convention alone withheld them from outbreaks ; and did they suppose th « t while they sn there moralizing and ph ) losoph ; ziDf ; , these men would be nati > nVd with tL-ir moral philosophy ntle » s they showed them that it had been bent to the fullest of its bearing ? In Lancashire and Yorkshire the people had asked him whether la thought the Convention would recommend physical force . He had said -e < 3 id not think they would . Tbe answer to that was .
u Then . Sir , th « - y mn ? t show more moral force than they have done . He ( Mr . O'Connor ) had alway > yielded to the opinion of the majority—he had always abstained from bringing forwud any motion that might crate a schi-in , but he would tel them that the Convention must make up its mind upon-a principle , and that that principle was , that as the people had determired on having their Charter , the country should afford a * uf ! icieut numbt-r o : delegates to work out that Charter . When the news reached the cou . iitry that the National Petition had been treated , ( as it would be ) like all other petitions , then they would find that remmftranced woold pour in from the country , and it was lor the purpose of enabling them to meet these
remonstrancft * , and to accompany it with advice , that Le had broughtforward this mo uon . WLenttie petition w& 5 presented , it would be the duty of the Convention to appoint a permanent chairman ; to continue itc sittings from day to day , and from hour to hour , it necessary ; asd to invite the country to address the Convention , in order that they might consider iu what way they could be . « t carry out the objects of their just cause . Tke Convention would then be looked on as the only constitutional representative body of the people . ( Hear . ) And ij it did not bring itself morally into collision with other anthorities i it would do nothing . Until they came into collision with some authority , it would be impossible for them to show their own importance . ( Hear ,
hear . } So long as thpy continued to take the opinions ef barristers and attorneys so long would the people brand them as moral cowards . The nearest associates to the working classes had been tbe beM attendants at the Convention , and the people would see that they had reai * on to feel confidence in those men nearest to their own class , rather than in tLo-se men who were placed above want and placed above labouT . The people wonld appoint another Convention of their own , composed oi men who expected to be benefited by the National Charter , and by Universal Suffrage . He had often observed a disposition to go beyotd what the Convention had previously professes , and to put down any expression havifig reference to physical force But he warneu
these gentlemen that the cn « s was approaching . ( Hear , hear . ) There was no disposition on the part of tbe people lo comr into collision with the law ; the people wowld not have recaurje to that description of physical force which their enemies would wishr Thty would not commence with a desultory warfare , no * hazard tl . eir cause in one battle —( hea :, hear;)—but , on the other hand , if they were relusrd their jurt < foaa&d& , no » that the R- ! orm Bill hail been found ineffectual for the objects for which it was framed—Jf the masters locked up their men * o as to prevent them " expressing their feelings , they would have recourse to tha silent monitor ; they wonld light their torches and repair to the hLU-side , and there remain until tHe prayer of their petition
was granted . ( Hear , aniiCheers . ) They would not be bo foolish , however , -&s to bare their naked and unarmed breasts to disciplined bodies of sol ; ier * . Bat that there might be no doubt of what he me . ant —that it might not be supposed by the owners ol property that he merely referred to tue people meeting at night by torch-light , he would say that the resiptaHce of the people would consist in their abstinence from labour , and the men who derived their property from that labour , wonld find that they could , nbt long maintain so unequal a ontest . ( Hear , hear . ) The very arguing of tue question of
physical force , as it had been hitherto urged had given great strength to tke Government . It had been supposed that the people intended to resist the military « ilb pikes , and with pistols without locks , and gans without barrel * ; that the people ot Lancashire and YorkiAire , and other manufacturing districts , would meet the caunuu with the shuttle , and present the web to tbe murkeL They roiirht depend upon V ' however , that the moment moral force laileii phyrical force would slip in , and . like an electrical shock , effect what the otner had failed to accomplish . 'He eomplaiodd that th ^ Convention hadofteu Been " siting when ths iibsent members composed a majority , and if they wi * iwi to make their proceeding *
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effective , the attendance gjuraW not only be constant but general . He cared uot what reason had induced them to absent fltfcinselves ; but he had no hesitation in saying that Mr . Cobbett had taken the boldest step ; b * cause he could not carry his resolution he took the xno * gentlemanly , tbe mont manly , and the KiQsUhonourable step . But as for those Gentlemen who had resigned , he could not designate them » s anY . jwJjer than paltry coward-.. He had no ht ^ tatic « IM *| a din | c themMmoral nnd physical . cowards , a » a be was connnced that tbe moral philosopher ? fete the greatest bane to the c » ui » e . If the Conwaoen had onl y tarried out tbfe principle of moral power to its fuliext extent , they would , nave hf-ard nothing of Dhvsical force . fHwir .
and caeers . ) The power behini the bad l « w was greater tfcan the bW » iw Itself ; but the r <> wer of the people was superior to all thelawj Iftithaj ever etaiued the annals of legwjaiipn ^ in thfa roontrv ( Hear , hear . ) If th ^^ hK ^ eded ^ iniUySd une ^ kiaifly-i pretex t * ironkUtfll be found li > assail ihetu , ¦ wbtrews , iT \ V . ey pTOoeeded ft ia bold nnd ¦ rraightfurwRrd course , tbey wonld have the approval et the pe&ple of ibis country instead of the revilings and contempt that would otherwise await them . It was necessary , therefore , that at the present moment they should have as many members pretu-ni n » p <> - . Mble . ( Hear , hear . ) itWhigs were now stronger than ever , and c usidered that they had obtained a renewal of their tenure of office , and a longer continuance of their avowed march of tyranny and oppr-. frton , having putdown theTorieHfor a liuie .
ihirir text . effort would be to put down the Convention « t once , and fcr ever . ( Hear , bear . ) He thanked them for having heard him so patiently , and he ODly hoped if there were to be any opposition to this motion , that good grounds would be tiveu of ir , and that the people would be satisfied that the Delegate could do them more good elsewhere than at the Convention . ( Hear , end cheers . ) Mr . Bursev , in seconding the motion , observed that at onetime ihe Convention was iu advance olthe people , and at that period their pofition was lather a dangerous one , for he never liked to see them so . He hoped th-ir Hieanure * would be always influenced and judged by the wishes of their c *> u * tituents .
Dr . Fletcher cordially concurred in themotionof Mr . O'Comor , but with respect to his remarksupou the absence ot Delegates he would observe that t \ e arrangements made in Manchester were that the Delegates from thatdistrict should be plncedentirely under the control of the Committee sitting at Mtui ' - che > ter , as to who should attend the Convention and who shoald not . He was a determined physical force man , yet he believed that a proper exercW ot moral lorre backed by physical force , would be « Lffi cient for the attainiEeut oi that object . Moral hire might be qnallj dangerouj " , if it were not backed by tae phyeical force of the country , anil if uny attack wss meditated upon them he would recimmend that the Convention should sit among the
peop le who would support them . He did not , however , a ^ ree with the proposition that they should be a peninbalaiirg Cunvtntion—it would not onlv weaken their lorce , but there tras the farther oH ^ c ' . lion that some of their best men bad not the tuuds nec « * gary to defray the increased expenses it woul- entail . He agreed with Mr . O'Connor , that they ought not te trouble th < Mna-lve& about the opinion ' s of lawyers ; their wisest ami © e » t policy would he to keep wit . hia the consUtHtiora ? law ol England , llv irlt perf-ct coufidenoe in tie men he saw ar < iui : U him , and he beli . ved most of ( hem had made up their minds to the crixis , if nut he would advice
Ihemspeedi y to do it . ( Hear , hear . ) He , for . *«• , nhould not regret tbe infusion of a little tew blood amoDg thrni . With resp .-ct to what had been .-aid of tbe small unmber of member ? , be believed if they hisdnot limited it to forty-nine they would have a much \ nrg T number pre < -eut . and in Scotland thev alm" 8 t qnarre . led aitont themselve *; as to wii ' o > hoDid hive the honour ot represen'ing them at the Convention , without se-iiiJinjj u > o large a number He recommended that Urn Cunventiow should fit iu London not only till ihe 6 th ot May , but afterwards , lor it was there the crisis would take place , nnd tliey should be on the * pot to meet it . ( Hear . )
Mr . Whittle contendrj that IWr . O ' Connor had uo right to designate as de * erttr < iuid cowards those who had withdrawn from the Convention . He borr testimony t ; tbe siaceriiv and indfpendence of Mr . Matthew while he was a member ot the Convention ! That gentleman , a » we ! l as Dr . NVadf , had joiuett the Convmaon on tbe B ^ mijigbam ret > o : uti ( . n tor the obwrvanc-jof peace , law . and order , and conceiving tbtve principles hiid been departed from , th-y shonl . l not be subjected to any reproach tor retiring ! rt m the Couveiuiun . AfUr vindicating thf conduct oi Mr . Vii .-cent and ether meuaberc ot tbr Couvention , Mr . Whittle concluded by « 'xpre .-siiit ; hit cosjctrrei . cein Mr . U'Cuunot ' s motion .
xMr . Dlwcan , as a working man , observed thnt not one . < t that class who had been relected to attend the CoLvention had resigned . ( Hear , hear . ) I : was n maitr-r of regret that men of educatiof . ano intelligenci ? .-bouJd have cimmitted themselve * to the proceedings of th ~ Convention , and alterwurOs retired from if . Nothing Lad happened in that room to justify gtch a course , ana be woEld add that there were not one of the geutiemen who Lad retired who had not heard much stronger language used at public meetings than had ever beeu usrd there . ( Hear , hear , ajadchttrs . ) The conduct ot these men would have the effect of creatiiii ' suspicion in the nand ? of otherx of the same cias , as themselves ( Hear , bear . ) It would be recollected , that tvery man who Lad resigned was a middle class mat , and in no one instance had a real
working man given up his trust . ( Hear , hear . ) Ihe people at large would remark on tbi . « , anu adopt their course in future , when they would have an occasion to elect other . Delegates . Mr . Deeuan begged , belore the debate proceeded fcrther , to apprise the chairman that he was thi * day to attend a meeting at Romford , and as he was informed that Dr . Fletcher would go into a * iatemeut of hi « late mi n ion , and a « the worthy Doctor , a * he had beeu informed , would have occasion to remark on some of his ( Mr . Dtegan '*) conduct relative to a question lately debated bv tbe Conventi . n , he hopea that Dr . Fletcher would be good enougb to postpone his statement until hf could be present to make that dell nee which he wat bound to do if any such animadversions should be made . ( Hfur , bear . )
Dr . Fletcher said he would very willinglyconcede Mr . Dregan ' s rujnest . Mr . Mills hoped Mr . O'Connor would be so jast to those member * who were so constant and assiduous in their attendance here fr . ni day to d » y yince the Convention iirft commencwl its labours , as to withdraw that part of his speech which reflected on them , as well as on thuse . who were absent . ( Hear , hear . ) And he . also thought Mr . O"Connor ns not right in staticg that there appeared to be disunion in the Ccnveiiiion . There was no disunion in the body , except what was described in Mr . O'Connor ' s speech , and which wa » only the creation of Mr . O'Connor's imagination . ( Hear , hear . ) With this exception , he thought the resolution unexceptionable .
Mr . HETHEJtiMiTON fully agreed with Mr . O'Connot ' s motion , but he could not but deprecate the making of speeches which gave rise 10 peis ^ nal altercation . The manner in which the question ot physical force had been discusted by some of their members had been the cause oia greut many persons u 6 t taking an active part in the proceedings , and tur < ui'e of such language had been a . handle to their < nemie » for imputing to thein a doclrine which thev bad , as a body , done their utmost to repudiate . ( Hear . ) In liis utte mission he found that the middle , clai ^ sct ; invnriably . raised objection * against them in con .-eqaence of this cwnstanc recurrence to physical force . He had on all those objections being tnt « d , replied to them by saying that the . Convention had never passed 11 resolution adopting this doctrine —and thit it was omy made use of by some few 01
the member * . ( Hear , near . ) He ( Mr . Hetheriugton ) would not yiela to Mr . O'Connor , on any poiut where the display of courage would be necessary—but a * he was a moral lorce man , he could not see the necessity of continuaily striving to bring , forward the dij-cuision of the subject . He tnoughttn ' at the sentiment expressed t > y Mr . Whittle . was indicative ot that benevolence wider : should ever guide people when tbey were about to perform a great action . ( Hear , hear . ) He would , when be found the people had tr ied tlu- influence oi moral force , and hadfound it insufficient to answer them , be iound doing his iuty as one of tae foremost 0 / tbe physieai-torce men . He fe ) t great respect for many < H those who tiad seceded , and exceedingly regrtttei tlu > ir having donesoj and ahhuugJ : ) je nuuiitued t ^ at iht-y hau jcted wroi ; L' ! y in this instance , sliil lie cuuid not
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allow any thing to be * nid of taenv which reflected on their actions , without protesting against it . Mr , Hallky supported th « resolution . Mr . Pitkhthly , without goinginto the question as to the attendanceor non-attendance of some of their body , wouli merely remark that he knew ti . at some of the delegates had been eWcte'd in many pljtces , with the intention of not | i yingall their time to tbe Convention ; it was with' tbui intention , double members Were tlfctedinllinninghaffiand Manchprter . He thought froyi the iiumefotii nflpHcatiqiw which were iaily made for delegates to Wceed on the mission it would be unwise to pirsMbis reaolution : even this day they bad many letter *— a g * eat many letters were had requesting them to send m ^
nonanes to several parts of the country . He tbrtefore thougljt the passing » f this resolution would be offayory t » the cauto . ( llnftYyhetir . ) , Mt . O'Connor repKtdi H *»* ould not trouble the *»* TM » tioB-bj «* jmg ; one worrt -nete it not tint Mr . Whittle , h » d thrown the rtualtf of Ms protfClion vr tbe members who had seceded / rom them . ( Hear , hear . ) If Mir . Whittle thought as be said , that those gentlemen took their places at the Boa * d of the Convention , with the intention of advocatiiitt the doctrine of peace , law , an < l order , he was ur ^ cii mistaken , for it would jiecessisrjly imply a cedMure on the Convetition , 'ifit was so intended : but as be wai so well answered in that-part of hw speech by Mr . Duncan , he would not aav mow in this in .
stance . ( Hear , hear . ) Could anyone dotbt that the members generally , and the people outride , cxpfcted that it would be necessary that a collision would take place with some power' before they could gain their object . ( Hear , hear . ) He did not mean in what he had said to imply a censure on Mr . Vincent or Mr . Good ; he only said in reference to Mr . O * bome and othert , that they were not discharging their duties as they were bound to do by their undertaking-to attend the Convention . Mr . Duncan said tout he approved of the rescluHbn , btit that it was at present oat of time . He ( Mr . O'C . ) wanted to know when it would be in time ? Hi ^ reply to Mr . Duncan would be , that they were within one fortnight of the presrntation of the petition
( Henr , Hear . ) With resptct to what Mr . Mills said of the Jacobin C . ub . « , he would rufer tkat gentleman to what Mr . Buiwey sai 4 on the necessity ol being impelled from the outside . ( Htar , hear . ) Hethonght that th « name of Jacobin Club could not be objected to if its utility could be prov .-ri . He did . not care under what designation the people cho * e to support tin m . If it was necessary that they should be supported by the'people ' . composing , a Jacobin Club , he would Hay , " All hail the Jacobin Club . Smce he iu « st nsa cautions phrases with regard to the seceding meuibera , he would do so ; bat he istillcouH not pgree with Mr . HetUeri « rton that then : c « aduct should be puns d over lightty . He denied the r ;»{ ht of these men to redueo the Go Invention to the standard of p * e * ce , law , and order for the shopkeeper * , and in > neymo ~ ger *~ he wanted pence , law , and order , for all partie ***! id allclas « e « .
lliey heard a great deal of Mr . M » itlhevrs ' s exertion ^ but it appeared b « was « Wr « ys ready t <» tell othew to do what he would not Ao hnnsflf . Mnoii also had bein raid of the mow £ y expended by Mr ; Matthews , but it turned ou / that he was mer . ly the Chancellor of- , the Excbeqner , and expendewi money , noEe of which he Jiim ^ jh imb * cribed , ( He <» r , hear . ) Ha had , no objection to tho sD ^ estion of Mr , Pitkeibly , « ud a ^ tw the insinuati'u th » t Ue wwhed to dictate to tbe Coai'ention , he wo-id appeal to thoa ^ present wlether he was not always ready to defer to any gentleman who would favour him with a suggestion . He wan always ' ready t » xplain anything that might be liable tomisconstrnction , » p . d h « would ever esteem it one of the proudest day * of hji » existenc- when be had been appoiiued to sit with the honest , manly , and iuUel > t * ii 4 pntgeRtl . men h » saw around dim . - -
After a few wordu from Mr . Hiii . M ; Y in defence el Air . Matthews , , the resolution wan put and car . riHi ! unatiimnu ^ ly . Tbe Chairman handed iu £ 5 from the Working Men ' s As-ociatiou at Cheltenham , Mr . Hetherington tl from Murston , near Mmchestrr . Mr . . Um s Taylor wittdrew thi- motion of which u » bad givrn notice , relative to member * not voting on the questions brought belore the Convention . Some discussion then took place relative to n mm of money transmitted from Birmingham , to Prescou and Co . ' b b » uk . . The Chaiuman had a distinct recollmtion of £ 5 being acknowledged in the Jlirmiuglunn Jonnnd , and also that it had been transmitted to j ' rescott ' s bank . '
It was ultimntely anjfgesfed that application should be made by the Treasurer to Mr . Douelas on the subject . On the motion of Mr . Hetherixoton , Mr . O Lonnoii obtained leave of abs * ncoon W ' ednesdnv M . xt , toatteud thoQueen's Bench . The meeting then adjourned .
Tuesday , April 23 . On the motion of Mr . Skevixoton , Mr . Ward-u , deli gate from Bolton , took the chair . The Secretary having read over the proceedings of yesterday , ° M r . ^ EEsow begged to iutrodnce to tbe Convpmion Mr . Joseph W iliiums as the new iuembttr for East Surrey and Lambeth . \* M' H ^ RTwtLL begged to eiitfr his protest against Mr . V \ llhams being r < ceived us the delegate tor Kast Surrey and Lamb , th : be was duly elected to represeut Lust Sarrey alone , and not Lambetli .
Mr . O Connor was sure that Mr . Williams would do his duty by thone vho * ent him therr , no matter which of tht places he repn s . nted . ( Hear , hnpr . ) Mr . Neesom'wiw jresent at the meeting held yesterday on Kennin ^ ton-common , ami he distinctly stated that Mr . Williams was elected by a large majority for both places . Dr . Fletcher would say that it was of very great importance that the ¦ pnrticular place which * dengate represented should be named . He thought the public notice calling the meeting which went to tlect a delegate was enough to decide the election ; but it was necessary to show that this notice had m dl ^" ted P P rly . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . O Connor— 'lht + meeting being a public one wa > - jmnia J ' ncie midence of its being a proper one to innke an election .
Mr . Mills—It * et-med tohimthM the Convention was placed in very peculiar circumstance s by cn « member introducing a new-delegate a . * representing a particular districr , and another member protesting ajjaiu-t the eligibility of the . delegate so introduced He thought their best course would be to appoint k Select Committee to investigate the subject . ( Hear hear ) ' . ¦ Mr . O'Connor protested against snch a lino of conduct being adopted by the Convention as Mr Mills recommended . There was wot . of all tru < bad indul
practices ged in by the House of Commons . on »> thsvt < : e * erved so much reprehension as the manner in which they decided on objected returns' of mpmbew to peniMn Parliament ; and it was , he thought , the dutj of tbe Convention not to imitate them in t . ' . is part of tueir couduct . If a committee was to bt appointed it should be a coiumiitee ot" the whole uuust-. ( Hear , hear . ) He also thought that one meeting held in a particular place could not elect a del . gate for two places . He thought that Mr . " llliams would be satisfied to take his scat tbr East Surrey alone .
Mr . Lovctt said the circumstances were reall \ these . Mr . We . stertcn , a gentleman of talent anu ot true patriotism , had by great exertion gut up in the neighbourhood of \ V andswortri , Keiinhigtou . I utney , and the surrounding districts . Associations ^> r the purpose- of carrying out the objects of th .-Lliarter—which Associations had organized the tradesmen , principally dyers—had obtained manN signatures to the Petition , and proceeded to coiL-ct tlw Rent with great succe > j— and tint % . rrsivvd to hold a meeting for tbe purpose of-electing a De-If gat'i to the Convention lor that district . ( Hear , hear . ) The Democratic Association marchod to this meeting yesterday in thousand * , and opposed
w . th success the election of Mr . We * u ? ito . n . who wn * supported by the people who knew him well , Hv thought ii would form a bad precedent , if it wao allowed that Mr . Williams shoul . f be permitted to tako his seat as Member for both places . The same line of conduct was about being adopted bv the Democratic As-ociation in Stepney nnd other places where , elections were purposed to be liml during th « easuiDg week . Mr . O'Connor ssid in his opinion the Convention was bound to receive Mr . Wiuiaths as the Delc «; vt . of the Working Men of East S irrv—he ftppeiTrLin th . « dr .-. « sot a wt > rking mn » ,-aud he Imped £ 0 ( Jih themes 01 Spitalfieldo woald sand them & Delegutt
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wrthour either shoea or stockings . He therefore moved that Mr . Willnuns be received as a Member for Ewt Surrey . Mr . Neebom seconded the motions-Mr . Hartwell did not oppose the reception of Mr . Wilh ' amn for Ewt Surrey , he merely protested aga nst hi . i being received as the Member for Lambeth . H # was elected for the London " "districts * in 4 ri open meeting , which was call jd by circulars distributed all round London , and until he was found fault with by a meeting , a » freely called , he would continue to think himself the representative of the working men of London , notwithstanding the underworking * of th ;> Democratic Association . . " ? . therefore would oppose the receplion of Mr .
wimams as Member f . r Lambeth , and he worila , on the name grounfl , oppose thesi- new elections for thenietntpolitaftdj ftriu * , :. > ,, j : Vjpfc -I ^ W ^ 4- , is , * XJoioyeni ^ n eueht to !» % ?«» Uw credeitbaU of th « memW * 4 i « Vhad been iutrpi * auce-t . ^ H ** . f aad been introduced u Member lor Lambetn , ana when that-wan called m question , it was at price changed for Ei « t Surrey . IJm ' thought it- was a matter of * much importance , for he Htispected that there whs a foul conspiracy afloat \ o <* amp thf Convention , nnd he further . ¦ rosuected that Mr . Williams had joine-l it . He had heard him say that the people should meet in hun ^ r ^ ds , or one hundred and twenties , an « l choose their IX-legafes from the Democratic Associa'ioD , and then they might swamp the Convention . His constituents were determined that th y would not be cotitrouW
t > y any portion of the people of London . ( Chevra . ) According to the Democrat of las ' , week , it appeared that they had now Jacobin Clubs , which were trying to overage the Convention . He hated all rsnch mockery of the French Revolution . ( Cheers . ) There was no 'feature in it which was so vtrv gmtifyiog to tbe people of England . IIw , if tbey were to be cqntronled , would like to see the mimes of the Association—to kn > w their residences—and > iow they got their livelihood . It was their duty to watch over the elections . The present member had be-n introduced for une placr—that was given up when ques'ioued , and another selected . ¦ The election having beea da-led , in question , it was impossible that they could receive him without his ere ' entials .
M r . Cardo said that London was not represented in districts . Dr . Ft . ktcher rxplniced . Mr . Sax key said that about a fortnight ago it had bevu specially stated that a me- tiog would take place ^ n Kfimington Common , for the purpose of ilectiiig a Delegate , and Lambeth was one of the place * s'att ^ , and therefore he thought Mr . Williams should be received a . * Member for Lambeth , as more ihan ten days notice had been given in th s cftsw .
Mr . Moore rose to move the a'ljoarnment of the conMidtration of this return until the bills convening the meeting shoull be produced , and tbe credeutials obtained . If the bills Buy that the meeting was convened for the \ urpo . w of electing a Delegate for East Surrey , and for Lambeth , then they were bound to receive Mr . Williams as such , but if tile bills mentioned East S'irrey only , then he could only sit for Esst Surrev ; k « expreLsed deep regret that Dr . Fletcher should suffer himself to be taken out of his course by those who , in comparison with / himself , were mere- pigmies *
Mr . O'Connor would witMraw his proposition for the purpose of seoonding Mr . Moore's amendment , and he merely did ho to comply with a point of form . They had impartani duties to perform , and ought not to let tfiemaelveii be led away by technicalities . With regard to what had been said about Jecebin CUbs , he knew" nothing of the existence of niacb clubs , but if Jacobin- tlubs were capable of infusing knowledge and energy iuto tkt-Convention , he woold u s * en that knowledge aad that energy should come from b Jacobin Club as from any other club . He was norry that any Member of th * Convention should dread any infusion of democracy whether from a JecobinClubor a Democratic Association . He did uot dread the introduc
tionol any one possessing over- / . ^» l . -Ta-jre was judgment sufnei' nt in the Convention to soften any over-z al . H > preferred over-z ^ al to over-caution , which was like a spark sm nildming among em ' jr-rs . It whs not an uncommon thicg for the pe « ple of one cistrict to attiudelection * iu another . The Prestoa people had attended at Binokbum . All he asked was , whether the Democratic Association was an As 5 ociation of the people ? and it" so , they had a r . 'ght ' . to attend that meeting . He himself bad not been awire , until yesterday , that the electiou wa < . (•^ take place , and had uever heard the name of Mr . Williams until this day . He considered that his election was . valid ) and was sorry the Convention drealed an infusion of democracy . He hoped the Democratic Association whenever an election was
held in London , would go with all the force they could muster , and hold up their hands . ( Cheers , and cna * of " No . " ) If he thought that that Assecmion bad held secret clubs and committees for the I'urpOHB of taking advantage of tbe Convention , he (¦ Air . O'C . ) wojiM take his name off the rolls of the Association , if he thouiht they prnctiseil in the dark that which they dared not avow in public . There were many membero of that Association present who cotild bear witness that they had never held auy couver . sation with him < n political subjects , and they would rfhow that it was unlikely they had adopted any gee : et proceedings on this suhj-ct . Dr . Fletcher had said that th se . who r .-turned him were able to write their names and poiut out their places of abode ; what was this but Hou-ehold Sullrage ? Cheers . )
^ Mr . Skkvington denied that it was Universal Suffrage to allow bodies of men to perambulate the country and control elections . Mr . Cabiw supported Mr . M -or ^' s amendment . The _ Convention had i ^ o powrr to refuse Mr . VVilliams . Th « Democratic Association had last night held a meeting in Smitbfielil , supporting thr Chart r , and had tuus carried the movement into the City . Mr . LevcTT said , that it was an important point that had been alluded to by the List speaker , because Tories might be sent into the Convention , which would destroy their union . On union their lives depended , anti persons might obtain admit tance vtho , by their speeches , might placo their l : v » s iu jeopardy , and he thought they had a riglit to interfere with those sent here in opposition to the objects of the Convention .
Air . Neksom regretltd the coursd the discussion had taken . Mr . Mills supported Mr . Moore ' s amendment . Dr . Fletcher explained . Mr . Bi \ shf . y contended that Mr . Williams had a r iglit to sit until evidence of the invalidity of his election had been produced by the objecting parties . Mr . Whittle agreed with Mr . Bu < sey . He had no objection to members of clubs attending elections as individuals , but was fearful of club * degenerating into cabals .
Mr . Cleave also protested against thointerference of the Democratic Association , and expressed his disapprobation of those who showed their approbation of the French Revolution by styling themselves A 4 ur . it and Robespierre , which' was likely to prejudice the Convention in the eyes of those whose support would be of service to them . Mr . Haiiney had beeu present at th « election yeatenlay , which had been conducted iu * proper manner , and he would assert that Mr . Williams iiad b > . en sleeved in as fair a manner as any itejijberof the Convention—members of the Democratic " Association were present , but as ft boJy they took uo pare in the procfed ngu . Several members denied this . The Chairman called to ordtr . and
Mr . Haisnky resumed— He would repoat what he had said—As a body that Association had taken no part . The st ctior . 8 of that Associafion never met iu . secret to conspire ; all their meetings were public ones ; and as to theif being divided into sections , other societies , also , were divided into different secmods . lheNational Union of the Working Classes was a case in poiut . Mr . Westnrton was put n nomination , but it not follow that he must be elected . Hear ,, bear . ) He was present at the election , but he took no part m it , because he Limed one of th .. convention
, though Home Members of the Convention did interfere willi the election in favour of Mr . > Ve » terron Mr . Williams we * fairly ulocted yesterdav , and , according to the bills , h « ' n .. p res « nted Ri .-t Surrey , but , tiH-it was thegea ' eral undJrstauJiti ? of the wen of Lambeth , that the Delegate wax to rt-urvwat them also ; andif theqne ^ nn w ^ nut o tae vpte , he would feel liim-elf bound to voto that , r .. Williams wus At . 'iuber for .- Lamboth . ^ woll a > h . wt bnrroy , it wad not true that the iMnocnnic A ^ ... cui : ion had marched to the meeting with , their
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banners . The ^ ogs wiere > i * own and he had lent them to the committee of Ihe day . He denied that tbe Aggcciation ever . attempted to put down or controul the Convention , but they wtre not contented with the mode in which the London Dt-legntes had been elected , and thought" they ougat again to go back to their constituents .: ( Hear , hear . ) He denied in thegtrongt-st manner that the Democratic Association had ever attempted to t xercist- any controul over the Convention ; such a measure had never been mooted amongst them > Ho knew that he had thepeepleont . issid * , and he was not to be put down because ip . vr * s said that he was a favourer of the French rftKOJaJtion—he was for its virtue * , not for its \> ces . , Pg ^ nld rejoice ' in the name of /» - cobia , and po . teniijr Tffipuldn-et So them jiwl ^ e * Mr . HABTjpti . gave an account or the elettio * < ° f " -Wt-AWii k ***** * . w 4 fc > s » W «! t to- prove"th « t tha ^ ifiOtiofi WW fcr EartSarreV , «* d not for LamWth . of
msotm . ^ * 4 jonrnm « ct the qaeitwa was-then put and agreed to . -Mr . Cards / -handed in jCS from the West London Ddmpcratic ^ LgJ » oci * ti- > n for the bo roogb . of ftlarvlebone , as tfatfananRent . Hw couHtituents coii-¦ plameri that the Rent they had formerly paid did not appear as if coming from them . They tad called twenty-. iix meetings , and they had never come to the Convention for any of the expenses attendant upon them . , ~ Mr . Cleave said thera was no question before the chnir . . .- . -. Mr . Caudo would not be put down . Hia constituents had been charged with uot doing . their duty , and he was bound to defend them frcm snch an onfounded ehargf . Mr . HAUTMELTi said the question had better be dropped . He must deny all that had fallen _ from Mr . Cardo .
Mr . BcasEY thought the whole of the members had ran mad that morning . ( A laugh . ) He woali move that the Convention take no node * of them disputes . ' . ¦ : ¦ ¦¦ a ho conversation then dropped . . . . . . Mr . Sa . nkcy had been down to meet his-consti tuent .-:, and they were most enthusiastic in support of the Convention , and had sent up by him a Scotch note . In 1825 , they showed their determination , when small notes were attempted to be put down ; they were now equally determined to nptola ' the Charter . He thra handed in £ 1 a * rent frdm Edinburgh . He had to state that there were 6000 signatures to the petition from Edinburgh , in addition to th > . 83 formerly reported , making 20 , 000 in all . Mr . Cakdo had forgot to say tbat he had that morning given in 2000 additional . 'Signatures from Marylebone . . ¦ - ¦ • -. Several letteif ,. approving of the proceedings of the Asgocintion , were thenread by the Secretary .
SIMULTANEOUS MEETINGS . A report from . ' the Simultaneous Meetinga- 'Gommittee was read , and was as fellows : — , The Convention having decided on the propriety of holding biuiultaneous meetings in diSweat paFtc of the c « untry , inorder that such determfna 4 ioja , may be carried into effect , recommend the pubiit&tionof the following addrci * : — - ' * - "TO TUE PEOPLE OF GREAT BRITAIN . ' ¦ " Entrusted by the lliutUitTiotw cUssiea wiih itei * i » Ko » al frtiUna for prewBUttifiu to the House of CunuaSjta , it be coru . es tke dut / oTE ttie Couveutioa to la ^ More tb ^ pwp l « > of Great Britain tke opinion which thi-y bud formitct from ab svrvatiuti and converthtion . It in the cpinioa i ) f ihe C-oo vention t ! mt Uib Unvute of Commons will not Mccnio to ibe ( MKjerurtlie l ' etition-that \ euve to biiog in JL Bill ( banded 011 tlie Nutiunal 1 ' etiii . n will b « refused . \ h » h » t- case the ( uDutionii of the Convention will c «» se . TheConvention wiii then wpurute mid return to their home *; oi ;/ they will receive tr- nhin . itiuttioim from iheir ounsTitiienU . To . give 4 he people
ot Gre » i Britain an opportunity of deciding « u % ho prupriety ul" ab « ndouing the eaiwe'in which they were eugaged , « r d dir . ctwliat ulieriur measure * shall be adopted , tUo O ' onveation rec ^ tumeiid ihat public meetings stall bo ^ otden ' in w man / pWw as pjMiljleduring Whit « aR « Mt 4 c ' ~ TheConrention easrnesily adviae tne p « i . ple of Great Britain tu beearelul in the c . inuideration of thin all impvrtant suljcct , for one more iiiporlant wo » never » nbinitt ^ d to the consideration of vuviiation . The conduct of the ruling powers for the three last , m . mthi , convinces the Convention > that-it isiav « u >< bt tht petipltf to exptct rnlitf Ir ^ iu tkn » e in uuthorit / . Tfcft Gouvcniion have no hope * other than in the firmness aa £ ¦ ueriry of the people . Be careful , then , people of Great Britain , be in council wLse—ip actiou ^ rompt . Delegates f'uiu tUe C mvtmtiuu will a tend u » many cl ihese meetiagi as their number will admit . The Couvuntion advise tfut Comuiilteea be formed for carrying ihese Vocou . uicndatiQBs into effect , and that information as to time -and place of MKfr'ting bn transmitted an noon »* possible to the Cou-Vt » nti 4 \ ii .
ftlr . MOORE moved ta « adoption of the address . Mr . KKtviMtroN f * comlrd tbe prsp siiii . n of Mr . Moors . Mr . > .: AKPtisiTEK IL-U great reluctance in opposing th * adoption uf this report , and this reluctance wa » umctl increased from tlie report having received the very beat atfcea tion ol the Comuiiitee wfio had drawn it up , and who h * 4 iinaniinouily-ng ' reed to it . ( ii ^ ar , heur . ) At thesuBie time lirt would n .. t be doing fci « duly to his muiiL-roua con « titiwnU if h « iiid not diiient from that part ef it which incul cated the princi ple , tb .. t tho people had no reliance on the re » uh of tna lV'tit . on . He believed there was no member of the Ctmvenuou had any doubt on ihis Htibject ^ but stil l he wonld consider it . imprudent to give uny txprtvoioa oc this question U thekounlry at large . Seeing , huWrver , thit the cuu-f object of-the Convention in being brought together was to have the Petition prepared in tbe most effective manner , and that it should be presented in a sh % pe loaato
conduce to m success , 'he did think that the duty of the memboni wns thid , and that no utepa should b « mittedte eBiute xh- passing of thu Charter into l . » w . ( Hear , hear . t fie thought it would hv gruat doreHction ef dttty in them . It they pntit fortu . that their mission or funatioR « rrnt fartliw thanihM We have no ri ght to say that this rYtitiun * iB not be effective , no matter how much we are of » Ct'ntnrr opinion . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . S . VNKEY . Much had been done to forward tbe great cause in which they wery tinbarked , which this Addrau h * i kept out altogether . H the Hous « of Commons reiused tbe pra \ er i . f the Petition , he thought that the Ccmvciitwn shouit coutinuetofiisihargH those I ' unctio . is whicVtht-y ^ had undertaken to do ( lleiir . ) He would K . ove an amendment tk » £ the rsport begenrback for recqnaideration . ( Hoar . ) Mr . OCoNNeK ^ Mr . Carpenter seemed to think that ; ilthong \ i wo were unanimons , tbe-people outside wrre not .
I peii duty hitherto , was t-ut a preliminary step , mere matter ot lorm ; it was only th" bringing on of tne que « U < -s . to tbf . Court . AH lup . y had to do waa to bring the Pehtinn to ( be House of t ' oinmons , and wait to se « the event of iu gcoeeet , and theu be guided a « to what thfiy should do in future . Nntwithstanding'the iiiisundrrutaodir . g lhat ha » taken place , it v »' i » ulii bu diUicult tb ; rind a body of men who had done their duty t )>; ttcT than had the members of [ he Convention , f / uivers . l Sufl ' ra ^ e will yet come like a thunder-shock—it ainxH overspread the land with the rapidity of lightning . ( Hear , hear . ) If we go to the country , uad till them thai we had an anttcipattOH of the l ' etition being nnsuccessul , will the ? bvlievenst ? Will they not aay they were deceived ? ( H ^ r . ; tie coulil not undertake to tell the Deonln -that he had «« ,
I'Xpttct . ilion from the' House of Coaiiiuurni , more than that adihes » exprfssed . ( Hear , heat . ) H&did not thiuk that tfcs small gleam of surmhuitt which Mr . Sankey thoogbt to prodnnc would borfffctive in Oi .-pelling the doud * Mbicawere hanr-1 . k-over ' them .- ( Hear , hear . ) Ho hofej , that an the addfr » H had been the subject of much deliberation , and of rreit labour , to the gentieman forming the committee , those pposti . ! to n wottifj withdraw their amendment . He thoocrV it so much in point—iu Mntini * nM said so much in st Utilo compass , and gavn the people ; to understand wkat if meant , that it would not be prudent to withdraw it . ( Hear hear , henT ) It was » o short that the people could see in i as once tbat tuey had nothing to expectlrom the Hetue ot Cowrnons . ( Hear , hear )
JVlr . CABl'tNTEB explained . » c Mr ; , J !! ' rrLE concVTred entirel y with tae vie * taken k » Mr . O Connor . They did uot declare that the object for whi * ta « y were aHs « mb \ ed was hoptless . Jlr . Carpeutvr anpearaj to be labouring under a mi « co » ception , b « aiu ( tth «< o « ectfra » i t . > bind the people together in support of the Charter . Thef «* 01 tne noii-yieldirg oftho Honie of Commons waa a fact of «* lmporiance . ¦ " Mr . Rohers wished ' the Conrention npt tostep out oftfceir wav to assert that of which they had no proof , tie weold iuA . 11 tne House ot Commons waa worse bow thai when the ueepV were callad upon to sign the Petition « r nn ' 0 NNti . Il "r « Mthin the last month , worle u ,:- h ZZL * "t 0 ^ e " bad " ¦ ¦ ' * evtr w « ' «» »' - went far 8 tb hold out
so B an ? expectation of gooUfrotu lb « ' . re th P * . ? "J h" tonr «! n !»» n hold that language fee ?' " ^« H "' "" Pre sented which they could Inly feoV f , « hL " ? 1 r «> l * »»«™ wUtea ! .. their sitting a 8 ap 7 titio * ^^^ l ^? i * Crow ? i <> a * ythat lh < -y •«»«««? £ ? » l I f ° ^ W ittoni"K ^ y " »»^ . ^ cn cf & \ i m Uld "" PUP" . e "m ehdmeat . air . wills would not give any membfiw r . f the House « 1 £ w He ! t 0 W " ** ty rt «} fng they k * d p ^ juJgriMfce « " ¦ *• " ° n'd "opport the amendment . ' ont Lrh ^^ V " . ^ that M y- f > & * hopes Iwd teen fett fr-, nwhH l > eo 9 le / v ^ only « M to obtmViWr rights «» o . ti ^ . ^' r ° ^ . H- " ^ - H « thonght it wonhTbe right right t ^ a Conv <; nUtjU Mt beca ^ it had a co ustitut ^ ui
Wr . BLRKEI . L 8 aupported the amendment , tntin " '^ Tt- 'HEK—lhey were bouid to . xj . rri-s lbfireipec admitted th » t they Hat under thecloy k « f being a prtttwoinc boJy and the we ,, of the North held thoir meetVnjw Werca ? t ^^ &t ^ zxt ! t ** " ¦""^ tmt ? thlo ^^ i'triontr ^" " ' ° «* eh * - ™ * , « f for ^' rh !' ' CONNOH * iiMrew hw motion f .. r a grant of mow * . ^^^ - tsrftairtsit SS ^« r ^ ffix . - s : r ^ js ¦ „ ( Concluded ' incur Eighth Page . ) i -
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Northern Star (1837-1852), April 27, 1839, page unpag, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1054/page/1/
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