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      ¦ Monday , &i , 25 . lit . Mims , Delegate for Oldham , in the chair . The Secretary Made nrinates of the previous meeting .. Tab friktvinr is the cue submitted for the © pinion of CotacO , vitk Mr . Bill ' s opinion thereoa : —

      CASE . A popoIaE movement having takea place in F . ngliina md Wales , and the adjoining counties of Scotland , to obtain a reform in tae representation of these coastfe * is the Commons House of ParHamen t , in furtherance of which object , large meetings of the public hare been held in various parts of these faagdoma , at-wkieh meetings , petitions to the House ¦ of Common * ha *» bera agreed to , praying for the * beve named object ; and farther , at some of these neetzngs persons hare been a . ppoisted to meet in London , an a certain day , to prepare the petitions « o tgrefcd to as aforesaid , to watch over tie presentation of such petitions to the Commons House of Parliament , and fey all Wai and constitutional aeaas , to forward the obtaining of Universal ^ SuSraa ; the persons so elected have met in Loadon .

      ¦ and are- bow sitting , from d » y to day , « nd « tte same of the General Convention of the industrious classes for tfe purpofletfNfcforesaid . Now the Deputies « r Delegates so assembled have , in their ^ enbermfions , deemed it advisable to send out persons from taeir body as missionaries to attend pubJie . BMetinM , called by public advertiaemeHt in distant putt of the United Kingdom ; some doubts narmg arise * ms to the legality ef such proceeding , we beg to submit to you the following questions a-n&cbrig-fhe above subject for your opinion ;—First . Have the persons now assembled in the General Convention « f the industrious classes , a

      legal right to send persons either from their own body Of other parsons , for the purpose of explaining the principles of the people ' s charter , and of obtaining signatures to the national petition and subscriptions of funds ? Second . In the event of such missionaries ' goinf forth , would the Convention collectively be accountable for whiter * these missionaries may speak at public moohngt , &nd for their acts as mi&ao&ariej generally—and also in cise of these words or acts being contrary to orders given to them by the Convention ? If the above an not legal , to refer to those Act ? o f Parliament operating against the sending ost missionaries , or for . the responsibility of the body for those sent out

      OPINION . 1 st— " Presuming the People ' s Charter contains nothing contrary to law , I see no reason to doubt the rigntof the persons assembled in the manner and for the objects described in the case to send other perr ons , whether members of their own body or not to explain the principles of the Charter , and to -obtain signatures to any petition and subscription ;) to any fund whatever . Snppoang always the funi to be raised for a legal purpose , and the petition to contain no illegii matter ; such person * do not appear to me to come within the 57 Geo . 3 , c . 19 , s . 35 , which is the only Statute bearing on the . case . 2 nd .- —The Missionaries would be the agents of the Convention , and i am of opinion that the

      Convention might very possibly be held criminally as -well as civilly liable for their acts , even when these acts were contrary to the intention of their employers , unless the orders given were so explicit that the acts of the agent * would be clearly seen not to be within the scope of thtir authority , and * j > lefc ! the effending agents were discharged , as seen as it comes to the knowledge of their employer * that they were acting unlawfully . 3 rd . — " That there are no Statutes in point but as respects the liability of principals to pnnisamept , for the acts of their agents , the cases of Rex » . Gntch . M . and M . 423 ; Attorney General v . S * ddon , 1 C . and J . 229 ; and Rex p . Medley , 6 C . and P . may be referred to . Signed , M . D . Hill . "

      Febroary 20 , 1839 . " The Secretary said , ha was in some measure t « blame for not having raad two letter * he had received in the beginning of last week from Messrs . Dooglas and Salt , bat he had consulted with others , and , as the letters would have given rue to some discmsdons , he thought it better not to do so until the gentlemen themsslve * were present , bat as he saw s mfttion en the books relative to the absence of members , he thought it his duty to mantien this circumstance .

      Mr . Douglas « ud , that in regard to the absence of the Birmingham delegate * , he had to state that it n ? rer was contemplated that all those elected in Birmingham should sit in Convention at the same time . It was enough that one or two should be always present , and he was sure that is Mr . Collins the ' Binningl ^ m people had a somdently attentive representative . TaefTatAscREa t % en announced the receipt of the following sumj towards the National Kent , viz .: — From Ayr , per Dr . John Taylor „ . „ £ 4 From Manchester , par R , J . Richardson , 23 From Edinburgh , per Mr . S * nkey 10 Yorkshire , per Mr . Pitkethly 40 Mr . Docaus then read over a list of sums in the

      hands of tke bankers previous to the meeting of tke Convention , amoanting to six or seven hundred pounds , which , he said , would be transferred to the Treasurer , in the c » ar * e of to-ilay or to-morrow . The committee on rules and regulations brought ap their report through Dr . Fletcher , when Mr . O'Connor moved ths reception of the report , which wa * seconded bj Dr . Taylor . Some conversation thea took place as to whether the rules should be read over , waic ' a was eventually done by the Secretary . Mr . DocoLis moved that the report be approved of ; sftconded by Mr . Skevington ; carried , nem . nn .

      Mr . O'Coxjwa moved that th . s adlressbs printed ; secandad bj Mr . Hetheriagtoa , aai carried . Dr . Taym ) & then moved , and Mr . O'Coxxor seconded , the following geatlenva a 3 a genera ! committee : —Miisrs . Fro it , Saukey , Mills , Pitkerkly , Moir , O'Briaa , Hethariagton , and Dr . Taylor , which was agreed to . Mr . Mathizx than brought np tha report regarding the sending out of missionaries . Mr . Hzthskixctox moved that the report be received ; seconded by Mr . HartwelL Mr . O'CosxeR rose te move an amendment . Hs did so on the ground that this report w « not tae suns a * that formerly brought up ; he was as

      favourable as any one to rousing ths country , but did not think this plan a proper one ; ha would propose as an amendment the resolutions he nad previously intended te bring forward , and which he thought would meet the object * aimed at , without spending the aoaay of the national rent . It was qaite tru 8 that we were now looked down upon by tae members of the House of Common * , because we had not sufficient nam ^ s to our petition—but by tae plan proposed by the committee , although many more -nastea might " be got , we might pay too dear for them , ( Hear , hear . ) Although wa should not speak now of ulterior measures , the country ought to know that we have set apart a tims for receiving th-iiT -opinions and considering thi » ir instructions .

      ( Heir , ) In order that we might bs able to finish oar work this « e . « ion , he would move thit the p 3 titbn bs mat preseatel till after ths 14 th of April , in orisr to give time , aai that , in the m iaadme , tha Convention , with the-exception of such members as Kiig ' at be deemed requisite to conduct the business in London , ihould proceed for one fortnight to their respective eonjfitU 9 ncies , to arouse them to renewed eiertion . He wauld not interfere in tnat part of the report whica fixed tae ps ^ ple to go oat and the diitriccs to be visited , because ha thought ths resolutioa * he intended to propose would nuet every objection as one principle , if it was to have a large 'Committee instead of a small one . Ha moved his . resolutions to this effect , and after soan discussion , both 'tie amsadmant aod the notion were

      withdrawn 611 to-morrow . Mr . Mt&sDBJf , delegate for Preston , then brought forward his motion , relative to the distress of the -country . I io not ( said he ) rise for the purpose of pressing my motion to any conventional decision , but Ido think it of such vital importance that the countryshoaM v— — f- ' - r- — - **" "' t whica press npon the inlustnonj classes , and that wo are ready to grapple with the detail * , gnrmrant tha difficulties , and defy taj danger * of removing tham , that I bring mr motion , and I have two separate objects in viiw m so doing . I »« h to let tht > nalton see that we are not to be frightened from a coanderaUoa of waat affects the interest * of the poar . I wish theni fc > see that th » sobjecti * not new to us . ( Hear , Iwar . ) I wish them , to understand that we have hearand

      b . th witnessed and felt the evils —( hear , )— ,, a ) ove all , I wish them to know that we will no bager sabmit to theai . ( Laud cheers . ) 1 wisn taeinto know this , aad in return I wuh them to let us kaow what thsy erpast u * to do , in case of tin rejection » f the pztiriaa . ( Hear , hear . ) He , ( Mr . Mawden , ) bebnfed to a class of msa peraapi worse paid than any other , and whose labour had been aadlv depreciated ia value , while their aam-B 9 rs and taeir ' privatioas had increased in proportion —; o * ar )—till their saff « ing » were ao longer to b * eadorei ; and oaly thi ^ c hoice seftaoad left to them , to siiis their food where they could fioa it , or U ? iowa . and di * . ( He . v , hsar . ) f am a haad-loQ . a ^ weaver , and * can well reooUdct whea I could earn 3 ) i . par week . —mch , was the « asa of th 9 haal-looai wearerin 1814—and now the sams amount of

      labDir perforaasd would not produce /* . In some fi ' srie * , the lois was less than in other . * , but in noa * ¦ waj the njduetion of value Ie 35 than 7 s in th 3 pound . ( Haxr . ) However careful tha weaver might be , arrive * fiir his prospects , tnere were mi * chancs 3 tow&ick he , in comaaoa with allminkini , was sub ' jii ; bat , aalike almost every other class who t » ad &a op ^ jrtuuity of pr < mdiajj for thsia , they ciaa ?

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      upon hnnwift crashing power , because Mked and defenceless , his wages never had been so * as to f ^ hlm , V ; . aaytMng bye with which to meet such casuaKties as . sickneH Or unwflW idleness , a bad warp , or the thousand cluinee of a fluctuating trade " When the weaver then geif * £ cut out , anlgoes with it to the warehouse , all that he gets for this , which has cost him a week ' s labour , is not more than five shillings , and for this be hw to pay away more than the half for fire , rent , light , < fec ., leaving gnch a muerable pittance , that unsupported naiure sinks under accumulated ' suf-> enng ; lassitude lsndstaken for idleneas , his neigh-% *?* *? mi 3 tra 8 t kim ' and t ^* ith cr&it K ^^ fr ty ^^ d him , what botmisery ^ an be his l . t ? The very sources of nitr uoon which reiiea

      ne , are in some measure dried up : anddespvsed abroad and wretched at home—with a starving yet beloved family calling alondfor bread , what but wsperation can be his ? or , who shall blame him for the consequences ? Let me give you a few instances of what haa fallen under my own observation , in cases which cannot be construed or denied : —Jst . James Calbert , reading in the same street -with myself , in Bamber Bridge , near Preston ; within the first six months had a child , bora to him under such circumstances , that , to my knowledge , there was not in the house , one mouthful of food , for he sought relief from the shopkeeper with whom he had dealt , he sought in vain ; he went to his employer—he asked for bread and received a aton « .

      in despair ha turned to the poor and oppressed- —his neigh&onrs—but one degree removed from the position he himself was in , and in them he found the good Samaritans' from them he got relief . —2 nd John Waring , with a wife and family of three children , failed in getting his piece out on the Saturday night , ( a case that very frequently oceurs , owing to weakness , consequent npon a want of food , ) on the next day , ( Sunday , ) one scanty meal of oatmeal porridge was ail they got . On Monday , they were destitute , evea of this , and it was because 1 knew them to have gene to bed , in the vain hope of avoiding cold and hunger , that , unabl * of myself to aid tbem , I immediately set ofif , and by representing their case , succeeding in obtaining for them a few

      shilling * . ( Hear . ) 3 rd . —Thomas Varty got his piece m on Saturday night , yielding him fue shill-\ i \ He had nothing in his house at the time . He had two shillings to pay to one person , tenpeace to another , twopence Jco another , and sixpence to remain at the warehouse , leaving eighteenpence , opon which he aad his family lived over Sunday . On Monday , they had nothing—on Tuesday , the husband came into my house , and asked my wife to come and assist in getting our neighbour up , as she was mo weak to rise , having been quite exhausted by a child tugging at her breast all nigkt . ( Hear , hear , aad " how disgraceful . " ) But this u not all . In my street alone , I have known , five families Begging from their fellow-sufferers to keep them alive

      a day or two . . ( Hear . ) I have hitherto been speaking of others whom 1 kave known , let me now speak of myself ; not with any view of securing a more marked attention oa your part , but to prove that I speak not from hearsay but from having suffered ; and , therefore , to be pardoned for any seeming warmth of expression which may have appeared bordering on violence . ( Hear , hear . ) My father-in-law , nho then lived with me , had been unsuccessful one Tuesday night in getting oat a a piece ; our house was left destitute of all means of subsistence . On Wednesday moruing , breakfast time came , and past without food—dinner time came , but no dinner with it—supper time , and we ware yet in starvation ; while « ich was the destitution of my house that not one article remained to .

      pawn ( Great ssasation . ) All this time my wife had a strong healthy child tugging at her breast , like h le ? ch draining her of her life ' * blood . When iu bed I addressed some questions to , my wife , she did not answer ; I became alarmed , and ' twas horrible to nad that she ! had fainted froaa exhaustion . ( Increased sensation . ) I rose , turned the meal bag laside out , shook the fragment * on the table , collected them into a bowl and made a little oatmeal porridge—and to this I unhesitatingly attribute her lifst being HSTedL . . Mr . Mnraden contrasted this state of suffrtring wita the money idly wasted by the aristocracy at-balir aad parties ; and then passed on to a review of the evibr of the factory system , both moral and physical .. and showed that in everv

      case they entailed enly suffering ; that the mast disgraceful tyranny prevailed , for-not in one mill out of twenty wonld a maa be received who was known to be a Radical ; he instanced a number of cases of tyranny , ana one of revenge . What , continued tho speaker , what must be the fate of oar country , when its trade has left it , as it must shortly do ? Every piecer will then have become a itpiuner ; tvary rorer a piecer ; new generations shall have spruag up ; aai aj there is no longer the same demand for labour , the masters will grind down tha wages of those who are now well paid to the level of the Reaver , and the most dreadful consequences must be the

      result As he said at the commencement his object was to give others an opportunity of expressing their opinions , and being unwilling to cause any disunion , he would withdraw all allusion to physical or moral force , and leave the matter to the good seasd of the country . He concluded bv moving a resolution to the foliowiag effect : — " That it was expedient to lay before the couatry , through the Conveatioa , the amount of suffering in tho kingdom , wit < i a view of obtaining the opinion * of the constituency as to the b-ist means of obtaining a speedy ani beneficial change . " Mr . Mariden sat down amid continued cheering . Mr . Fe 4 bqus O'Coxsor seconded the motion .

      Mr . Skevi . vgtox had listened with the deepest interest to the speech , of his friend , Mr . Marsden , for he wellkaev the trath of all that had been stated . Nor did this misery excend oaly to the handloom weaver , bat was rapidly extending to all other trades—( hear)—and he conld asjure the Convention , that , to his own knowledge , and in his own trad * , ( ito ' eking weaving . ) taere were many who could not earn 7 * . per week , aad otkers were forced ta toil on the Sabbath , in order to supply a miserable pittmce to their starving families . ( Hear . ) He ( Mr .

      Skevington ) could assure the Convention that but for the hopes to which the oppressed multitudes fondly clau £ , thatsometaing would be doae for them by the delegate * , nothing could have restrained them from desperate courses , prompted by despair . Yoa , and all of us , have bsen denounced as agitators and disturbers , yet you have in reality been the pacificaters , bec&xse the people trust in you ; but should yoa now fail ia youreu ' jrts to sscare for them som » relief , the consequences must be dreadful . ( Hear , hear . )

      Mr . Salt wa 3 glad that such statements as coald ba miintaiaed , aad which depicted the misery of the working classes , should be laid before the country ; theyTniifht tend to- opsn the eye 3 of the oppressors , aad-induce a change . ¦ It was our duty to soothe , as far as possible , the irritated feelings of the wroagad ana oppressed million ? . It wa * in the p jwar of the wealthier classes to aid us in obtaining jastice , and he hoped they wauld yet see the propriety of doing so ; but if they could not , ( continued the speaker with energy , ) if blind to the signs of the rims . * , they still perpetrate injustice against their fellowiasn , it will not be in our power to prevent an outbreak , and they mast take the consequences . ( Load clreers . ) The further consideration of the qaestioa was then adjourned .

      SPY SYSTEM . Mr . O'Coxxoa brought before the Convention a communication which had been made to him , and which he thonght of the atmost importance , as he had tha fallest coafiieace in ths source from which he received it . The communication went to show that all letters ta mender * of the Convention were previoaily sent to the H * me Office , where they were opened and read . ( Hear , hear . ) The letter desired him to call upon Mr . Richardson for further proof .

      Mr . Richabdsox said , that most certainly his letters had been most unaccountably detained , in most cases opened , aad ia soma cases suppressed altogether . ( Hear , hear . ) A number of other geatlemen made similar complaints , and showed letters both from Scotland aad England , with the post mark on them , of the places from which they had been s » nt , and which had been detained aad opened . Th « remarks made by the various parties who kid suffered , created great sensation , aad a committee was appointed to innnir * i—»^ vWv n »»» Vor , aai IcpOfC Lfr . 1 aylOr , Bailie Craig , aad another , were then named , aad the names of the nuaxbin baing called over , the Convention broke up . Tuesday , Feb . 28 ; X Rev . Dr . Wade , in tas Chair . Tae following saais were announced by the Treasurer as suaicripuoas ta taa National Rant : —

      Froax Baaaockbarn , by Mr . Barns £ 5 10 From F . tlkirk , by ditto - 4 0 ¦ From ForJar Female Political Union , by Mr . Barns 5 0 From Joseph B . S . aita , Esq 1 0 Thereport of the missioaary committee was thea broaght up , aad its adoption thea moved by Mr . Ne « om , aad seconded by Mr . Kaox . Mr . O'Coxxoa moved an aaaendmsnt , of which he had given notice yesterday , which be- introduced ia a speech which was received with repeated expre * sioa 3 of approbation , more particularly when he udoke of the manner in which the airricaltaral

      distocts should be treated . He taoogot that the report had besn too hastily adopted , in so far as regarded the giving oat of the taads , for it was to ba observed , that the sama sams were set apart by iae report for tae expenses , of tho 3 e who had no distance to go , as far those who had mmy hundred Wiles to . travel . ( Hear , haar . ) He would move thit the wpori be remitted to ths committee , with uwtroctioas to embody his resolutions , as far as noskbie , ™ il » ani Drin 5 P a ? - Tiie clutif foatareof hi 3 proposal was , that a large number of the delegate * be seat back for a while to agitate th'ir cbo 3 Utaenc ' . es , leavin ? a sufficient number to attaad to basing aai watca proc ^ -Uags ia Lon-

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      don . For hbown part , ite would , for three weeks ' , do at least the doty of one man , at his own expense . ( Hear , hear . ) . ¦ , Mr . O'Brien seconded the amendment of . Mr . O'Connor . He saw the necessity for fiiither agitation , and he could devi « » o better means than those proposed to bring np the- strength of the country . Already much good had been done by the Convention iu agitating London—( hear , hear)—and he \ Tas confident that much more might be effected . ( Hear . ) He was not one of those who thought

      there had been any failure —( hear )—on the cantrary T instead of expecting that the-ngnatnres should have been up before the Convention met , he looked to the Convention being the exciting cause of getting signatures . ( Hear . ) It was of the utmost consequence that the country shwiM be agitated , in order to meet the attempts of * . tyrannical Government to centralize their efibrt ? by a rural police force , and one of the first symptoms of an attempt to- dv > so was to tamper with- th » Post Office—( Hear , hear)—as had yesterday beea breught before them .

      Mr . Alderman Hadley supported ¦ the same view of the case , and wished it to be given an an instruction to the delegates to form a small knot of Radicals in every town and village to keep up the agitation . ( Hear . ) Dr . Fletcher had objected to tueplau of sending out missionaries at first , lest it might be attributed to fear or weakness —{ hear )—now thatthey had been so long met , tbi * argument was dons away with , and he really did not . see how they could better employ a portion of their funds , thaa in carryiBg out an agitation at thus period .

      It was of the more consequence that our views should be well understood , because he knew that designing spies were engaged in endeavouring to incite to mischief , that government might have an excuse for pouncing on them . ( Hear , hear . ) ' Anxious to wound , but yet afraid to strike , " they only waited an opportunity to put d » wn the leaders of tae people , and it should be the duty of the Delegates to put the country on their gaara . ( Hear ) t Messrs . Neesom and Sankev spoke on tho same side .

      Mr . BirssBV moved as an amendment that the first part of the report , relative to thn sanding oat of missionaries , be received and approved of . Doctor M'Dobavl seconded Mr . Bussey ' s amendment . He thought it unwise to be thus always referring the matter back to the committees , and would wish it brought to an end as soon as possible , which he thought would bo achieved by the plan of Mr . Bussey . ( He&r . ) Doctor Taylor would support Mr . Bussey . He felt particularly bound to oppose Mr . O'Connor ' s plan , as it appeared to him a dangerous course to send delegates home to their canstitueats in great numbers—for many of them might not be seat Dfvok again , aud he thought that it would aDDear like

      follovfing in the wake of the Corn Law repealei * , a defeated party , before- they had even fought - the battle . < Hear , hear . ) For his ^ Doctor T . ' a ) part , he would look with suspicion upon any proposal which went to send more thax ten delegates away at any one time . ( Hear . ) Mr . Carpenter aad no hopes from the sympathy of the middle class ; whatever was to be gained must be by operating on their fears—by showing that their property ( not their lives ) depended on the breath of tha people . ( Hear . ) He thought that they were already strong enough to go to Parliament . ( Hear . ) Mr . Douglas shakes his heal ,

      ( continued Mr . Carpenter ) but there is nothing in thit , ( Loud laughter , in which Mr . Douglas joined most heartily . ) Although some were of opinion he had failed in the number of signatures , he strongly denied this . ( Hear , hear . ) He was convinced that we had all in our power , and would preis on in agitating the country . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Douglas would not consider himself entitled to act npon any thing but a strongly signed petition , and he argued that suck we had not got yet . He spoke at _ some length to prove that the sympathies of the middle classes might be obtained , and that wherever they were so induced to co-operate , the work was always better alon ? .

      Mr . O'Connor withdrew his amendment as his object was obtained by Mr . Bussey ' s proposal . ( Hear . ) The Chairman then pHt the motioa of Mr . Bussey , that the first part of the report be received , which was unanimously carried , and the House resolved itself into a committee upon the details . Fifteen members were proposed by Mr . O'Connor as missionaries . Mr . Hadlef - thought thirty members little enough . Mr . O'Brien did not believe the Convention would 8 ani .-tion such a number . He thought fifteen sufficient

      Mr . Salt thought that the Convention would find that instead of spending their funds , they would find th « ir funds recruited todouble and treble amount . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Pitkbthlt tBought that it would be wrong ta sanction such a number as thirty—when the question had been relative to the agitation of Loadoa , nothing could bs doae without an experiment , but now the Convention was for rushing into the thing without any such precaation . He would move that only ten be appointed . _ Doctor Taylor seconded the motion , because he did not approve of putting out their arms farther than they could easily draw laem in again —( hear , hear , )—he thought ten would be enough iu the hrst insUnce r the more particularly as tke Convention could , more easily add to the numbers than recal them , if they were not useful .

      Mr . Bussey would support Mr . Salt ' s plan of having a chart before we decided upon what eught detiaitel y to be done . A loag conversation , then ensued , in which a number of members took part , whea it was altimarely decided by 21 votes against 15 , that fifteea delegates ba seat out ia preference to twenty . Mr . O'Brien- movad that the election of delegates be made by ballot , each number writing the nauvjs of rtfceea members on a signed paper , aad haading the same to the Secretary .

      Seconded by Mr . Pitkethly and carried . The balloting taea took place , and the following were tho names appointed : —Messrs . Collins , Salt , Lowry , Burns , Moir , Bassay , Viaceat , Pierce . Saakey ( declined ) , O'Brien , Frost ( declined ) , Gill , Craig , Duacaa , Dr . Taylor ( declined ) , Cardo , Deegan , Pitkethly ( declined ) , aad Hadley . Mr . O'Connor moved that the tims allowed be three weeks . Mr . Douglas thoaght foar weeks . After some conversation , three weeks were carried by a majority . A laag discissien next took place as t « the manner in which the missioaaries should be paid , aad the sums which should ba appropriated to them , wken it was ultimately agreed that each missionary be paid any expense from the Convention which may beiacarred , over aad abova what he receives from hi > t eonstitnents .

      The names were then called over , and the assembly dissolved . Wednesday , February 27 . Mr . Matthier , Chairman . A letter was read from Worcester enclosing an order for £ 10 0 0 Mr . O'Brien handed in the following sam , viz .: — From Stockport 9 10 0 Attaetoom 2 10 0 Haslegrove 4 0 0 Cockermjuth ... 5 0 0 Mr . CoLLiNa aanouaeed the receipt of a subscriptioa from a few working men at Mount Pleasant , Fifeshire ... 10 0 Mr . Mills handed ia from Oldham 40 0 0 Dr . Taylor handed ia from Wigton , in Cumberland 10 0 0

      M . r . O'Brien intimated that he had received notice of 1949 additional signatures from Stockport , making in all nearly 13 , 000 from that town , from vrkich more H * ay be expected . ( Hear . ) Th . e Secretary intimated that a number of petitions have beea sent through the post-office , eatailiug a u * eles * expense of many pound *; and he wished to know whether he was to pay fur them or not . Some discussion took place upon the matter , and questions raised whether signature * could c » oi 9 free even to mombcrs , when not accompanied with petitions which they were to preseat , It was ordered to b » notified that taa oaly way in which sheets should be forwarded , was by a parcel ore

      caaca or earner—and it was ordered thatno-petitioas be received through the post-office , unless paid previously . This referred chiefly to a petition which , had arrived from S » ckport , charged upwards of ] foar pounds ; it was ordered to lay in . the post-T office until so'aj correspondence eoold ba hadif with that town . A number of the most cheering letters were read from various constituencies , pledging themselves to stand by the Conveatipn , and holding oat the most chsering prospeefcu The report of the missionaries was thea broaghj ; uu , and passed as follows , after a desaltory eouvereatida in which a number of delegates took . part ,, a * to , whose missionaries would be most effective ;— .

      Mr . Bimey , to the North * nd . Ewt RJdings of Yorkshire . Mr . Craig , to the Western Counties o / Seaflv ^ d . Messrs . Moir ani Cardoj to D « vonshir-e-suif iD " or _ setshire . Messrs . Lowry ani Doncaa , ta Cwaw all and Somersetshire . Mr . Pierce , to North Walea . Mr . Colliasjto the J ^ dland Confttiwi ^ f Bedfordshire , Buckinghamshire , Berlcsbir , © * ^ 4 Oxford shire . Messrs . Salt and ftadley , to . War . vick , Staffordshire , and Worcdstershir ? .

      Messrs . Baras and Vineeat » "to Somersetshire , Herefordshire ^ Gloucestershire , su » ^ SvaU \ Wales - ^ ° ' Br * % 4 ° ' > ^ " ^ ' Hampshire , and Mesi * . GUI and Dapgaa ta ElSBX Suffolk , Cambridge , Norfolk , and L \ uce > u ? . iULre ,

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      The following isya copy of tfcw instructions given to the missionaries ' : —^ We * the delegates of the iriduslrioa ** lii 3 e 3 » «« ei ^ l > tedj having appointed yoa as missionary , d ^ hJteT&jMnstruct yon to explain the People ' s Cttarteri-t&- tftfttiia signatares to the National Petition for 'Universal' Suffrage- « t 6 collect iubscripfittas of Jftent , and by every legal aud constitutional means ., to extend political information amonjg the people ; and , in the prosecution of We ' -Above . ' - object * , vre hereby charge and enjoin yen net to hold communication with any associated body , not to u < e violent or unconstitutional language , and not to infringe the laws in any manner by word or deed , aad , farther , to be as economic *! as possible in the expenditure of the funds allotted for your mission . Mr . IteEGA ^ r then brought forward \ Aa motionj-elative to-the visiting of Members ef Parliament , aa < i after a few ramsrks , withdrew hi * motion , giving notice thsfc he wtttrtd move it ia another form .

      SvuiiAttr . ^ -Dpctor Taylor , on Wednesday last , brought ' r » n » ard his motion relative to the payment eT the reporters for the report of the debate upon frelana . Itgaverisetoananinritei ) discussion , which was * nearly degenerating into person ality , as Mr . Carpenter , the Editor of the Charter , was called iu question by Dr . Taylor , for not having supplied the other papers with alips in ittcffiieiK time . Dr . Taylor moral a committee of inquiry , $ o see whether MnCarpeatersbxnildnotba held liablo for the expeases incurredV Mr . Richardson moved an amendment , ' to the effect that—* As the report in question was not finished in doe time , bat exclusively printed in the Charter before the samii * was laid before the Convention , thi * body declares such neglect to be a breach of the original contract with the reporter * , and that the account ought not to ba paid by tha Convention . "

      Dr . M'Douall seconded it . ' Dr . Taylor withdraw his motion , and supported Mr . Richardson , whea a vote was taken upon anamendment by Mr . Paarce , that the account ba immediately paid . S » me sharp spurring took place between Dr . Taylor , Mr . Richardson , and Mr . Douglas , who saeraed anxious to plav the part of dictator , and refused to allow the motion to b © withdrawn which was done b y a vote of the house . Mr . Douglas ac . cused the Doctor of having imposed two speeches

      uptime ( Jovenhon , one in making his motion , the and in reply , to which the Dr . retorted by observing that Mr . Dougla * had already been thirty times on his legs . A poll was detnanded , when their appeared—Foa ilR . BiCHAfcDsbs ' s Motion : —Messrs . Richards , Doctor M'douall , Dootor Taylor , Pittkethly , Fenny , Bussey , Rider , Neesona , Smart . For Pieace ' s Amendment—Messrs . Douglas , Salt , Jones , Frost , Hidley , Dr . Fletcher , Lovett , Dr . Wade , Gill , . Bum * , Cardo , Craig , Mill * , and Skevington .

      Would not Vote . — Messrs . Hiirturell ,. RjgeM , Carpenter , Daegan , Marsdeu , Whittle , Sankey , Moir , Collins , and Alathbr , Chairmin . Absent : — M&Hrs . D-incan , Knox , Lowrie , Mealing , ( i }| , ) Moore , Cleave , Viaeeat , Wood , W . Rie , O'Connor , Harney , Loveless , O'Brien , Tight , Good , aad Hetheriagtoa .

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      HOUSE OF COMMONS .-Jfw&y , Feb . 23 . Mr . P . TH 0 . VI 30 X presented tfw report of the select Committee ^ oa private business , and gave uotice that , oa Wednesday ha would call the attention of the H ) use to thenaijia . Mr . HUME inu . utretf whether the Government would produce all the papers regarding Sir F . Head ' s Government ia Cauaia . Lord JOHM RUSSELL answered , those that would be presented . to the Lord * . Mr . C ., W 00 D ; , ft wilibaseea , gave soma farther explanations reganjing ^ afair . at . Yura Cruz ; but did not answer alrfhs qu 33 tionsput t » him , as he coasidared that course would not be pmd « nt iu the present Btatd ,. of the ; cprraspoadaaca on the subject . .. "

      Mr . T . DUtfCOMBE said , that on Thursday he should move a resolution declaratory of the expediency of assimilating the restrictions on theatres in London . The same Hoaoarable Member gave notice that on March 5 th , he should propose a resolution as to the expediency of affording relief to out-door paupers . ' ' ' ' ' T " u' " !; '' ; ; ¦ . - Mr . JERVIS proposed th « appointment of a Select Committee ... to inquire into the circuaistanoes attendant : upon'M r . 'C . W . Wynn ' s acceptance of the offlse of Steward of Denbigh . Lord J . RUSSELL movad the second reading of the Ecclesiastical Duties and Revenues Bill , urging the necessity of Church Reform , and representing that this measure was founded , with s 6 me modi ° fications , on the Church Commissioners' raport . Sir

      R . INGLIS resisted it tVt loto , as spoliation under the guise of amendment , and as establishing a precedent in violation of every precedent of law . Hrt denied th » right of the House to interfere with the property of the co-por . itions of the church , any more than it coald appropriate the funds of tha corporations of Loadon or Liverpool . The motion led to extended discussion , ia the course ; of which ,. - •¦¦ ¦ Mr . ESTCOURT , the other member for thft University of Oxford , also resuted the , Bill , and explained , m answer to Lord John Russell , that the University did not oppose any change iu the church , but such cSinnsfes as were unnecessary , and of prejudicial tendency . Sir ROBERT PEEL , without consenting to the details , said that he would not oppose the second reading .

      It was eventually read a second tiina without any division . ; , The Supreme Courts ( Scotland ) Bill , was forwarded a stage , after an ineffectual oppositian frora Mr . Wallace , and a division—Ayes , 133 ; Noes , 21 . !

      FACTORIES BILL . Mr . FOX MAULE rose to move the second reading of the Factories Bill . Its object was to amend the working » r tae present Factories Act , and to esable the officers engaged ^ a its administration to carry iu principles more completely into effect . The Hon . Member said he would proceed to ? tate as shortly as possible , the alterations vrhich he proposed iu the present act . ia order to give it greater efficieacy . Ia the timI ; place , the present bill proposed no alteration in the principle virhich the legislature had already adopted in the Factories Act . By the principle hajnaaat the regulations-a » to tha age at which children and young persons should be called to worfcin Factories , aad the lenjrtb . of time

      during which tb » y . impuld be sapposed ta work . Bat amongst the aUotations now proposed '' was- this , that no child 8 hoali « ork in more tttan ooe factory in the name day , ,. He proposed this because it had bean found by the ia ^ pectoFs of factories that children were sometimes senjt to workfor four or five hours in one factory , and then sent te work out the remainder of the titnent another , ani in nine cases out of ten where this was done the provisions of the act were violated . It was therefore proposed ,, that no child should work in more than , one factory on the same-day . There were other defects in the present law connected with the graatiag of certificate * . By the present act children required a- medical cmtincate- of age . Bat from tha vagueness of the

      present la was ta the person by whom , the certificate should b& granted , it was almost impossible that the rule should have any useful effiict . Mr . Richards and Mr . Horner proposed that a surge > n should be . selected to whom the power of giving , thoae-certin :-catea should ba entrusted ^ bat even th » was not enough to . exclude frauds . It was , besides , not lawful to make such a selection *; so that with all their caution , these gentlemen could : not exclude persons from certifying who called , themselves , surgeons , though they were aftanlittfe better thaacow .-dpetors . Pttrt ef the present difficulties arose from * tha obscu ,. nty of the act a . f to . whether the , certififcftte was to . be given npoa actual azo ^ ar upoa the- appearance of age aadstreingtb * . Towob » carity w > ula . be cleared ssnt buk

      ap by Uxep ^ e There w « re also constant fraads praebsed j whatever surgeoamight be selected , by briaring : to . him one child and receiving a certiScato which was . then , palmed ofl \ with a younger child . It wa * supposed that the signature of a mft ^ strate would , prevent these evila ; bat , nader the pewent act , tbe magistrate- gave bis sigaatore without seeiag the child at alL Of oooxse this check wa * . practically no check , at all . To renaeil f these- evxls . it was . proposed that surgeons shoald be specially ap pointed by tha inspactors * who ahauld grant cartificate * . Any regular sorgeon would still ba allowed to grant a certificate j but a cerrtificate- granted by any othsr thaa the regular certifying surgeon wxmldbe of n » avail until couatersigaea by a magwtrate . not beiaz anaillowuer , who should farther ascertain the truth of the certificate , and the ilsatity of the child brought before him . The- preseat bill proposed also that the

      certincalft should be given at the factory where the child or young parson was employed ; and it farther proposed , what . might seem startling to some persons , that the inspector or sub-inspector should h » Ve the to believe that the real age of the child was lesi than the age specified . These were the remedies and alterations which he propoaad for the present defects of the law as to granting certificates . . The next question was as to the regulation for the recovery o ! lost time . He might eautuarate from the report of the inspector a very great number of instances , in which the grossest fraud hai been practised under preteace of recovering lost time . It oft 511 occarred thatone part of the machines of a factory was moving while another hal stopped , and thi partial stoppage wm made a grouad lor recovering lost time , thin opeaing a door to numerou s frauds . Som . nimvM also it occurred when there was soma ^^ Jc

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      object in having an ex ca *» of work at on » tune , aad t deiiciency at aaoiber , that a pia was takea out of che michinery . whiote by that simple process was stopped , add the tiina 8 = 0 ' Idst Was recovered as lost time . Every consideration had beea givea to obviate these imposition * . By the present bill it was proposad , that except where the machinery was moved b y water power , there should be no capability of recovering lost time , nor evea thea except when the I 033 irises from the total stoppage of the waterwheel from want of water , or from too aruch water . " The next point wa * one on which many persons were interested—the operation of the scUooling clauses . The present schooling clauses ware not only inconvenient , bat almost entirely uBeless . ( Hear , hear . ) Ia nanny instances children ' received

      n « education whatever . Akuooga power was givea to inspectoH of establishing school * , and of eaforcing atteadance ou them , the execution of these power * was found cfuite impossible . The preseat bill proposed that the hours of attendance at sckool should continue to be tweiva ; a « i these shoal * be spread over the whole six days , aa that there should be no working day w ' uhoat M least two haursof ichooling . This Wourld prevent the possibility of iaca practicsl evasions or the act as coafiaiag all the hoars of « chooliag to' one day , or counting part of the twelfrff hours ,- the- hours of attendance at a Sunday school . This bill would farther secure eight half holidays in the year , ft ; was also uroposed that no certificate to * teach should be valid , if given to any penoa who-should be dfeclar ^ d 1 incompetent by the inspectoror who-ie room-should be declared by

      , th » inspector aa wafitnlace to hold a school ia . It was proposed that a certificate of attendauci at school should be required Weekly from the-schoelmi « ter , and no millowner should be aUowed to employ . a child without such certificate . The-bill was also to give power to mitlowuers to unite for the formation of schools , aad th 9 agreem ^ at b ^ tweea taemy with certain formalities , would have abindia / power . With respect to meaU , it was proposed that six hoars shoald aot pass without at least thirty minutes being allowed for a meal . As regardel the inspectors , it was proposed that their power to act as justices of the peace shoald cease . They should not have power in cases when they themselves aotrtd as prosecutors to sit in iadgaaeat on this cotnplaini . * which they prefer . They should have power , however , ia certain case * to vammoa Witnesses and

      examine them on oath . As to penalties , there should be for all offaaws punwhable by fine a fixei minimum as w ell as a fixed maximum . Batwaen theae extrenaei the pedoity should be fixed oa a ratio , for the two , three , aad subsequent offences . Of these penalties tha prosecutor was now entitle a to one' -hair . Bat wno wax tu « prosecutor in these cases ? The iaspactor or sab-inspector . It w a * hardly consistent with propriety that either of them should have any benefit from the offeacas which they theawalves prosecuted . The arraagement at least laid them or / en to the charge of interested motives . The remainder of the panalty shoald be , according to the present law , applied to the maintenance of a school in which the factory children receive education . Bat they were given in small sums to on « school aad another , according

      to the discretion of magistrate * , and thus the mean- ! were wholly frittered away . It wai , therefore , proposed that the entire of these penalties should torm a faad to be applied by the inspector uader the authority of the Secretary of btate , to-prom © ting schools and the advaacame ..: @ ( edacatioa amaa > the faotdry children . Thesa were the general alterations proposed in the bill . There were , however , oue or two other * which he coald not further distinctly specify , than to state , that by the first all persons entering a factory as occupier * should be bouud to give notice that they had doae so ; and the other was thatia certaia cases the occupiers of factories , iastead of being breaght before a magistrate , should be allowed to compound with iuapectors . As we understood the honourable geatleman , tuis was oaly to occur ia cases where there had been an accidental breach of

      the law . He did not see in any of the provisions that he proposed , that there was any thiag upoa which to raise a debate . H-icoild hot suppose that th » alterations that he proposed could be ua ^ atwfactory to those who had hitherto so warmly takea ap the cause ofchildreu engaged in factories . He , could Biptthink so , because what alterations 'he' ' proposed ftll leaded to mike the act more effective . Before he sat down he bagged to say that it was bis hope that- tha preseat discussioa would be carried oa calmly aad without irritation . He could assure the house that upoa this jjabject there-had beea much of misapprehensioa out of doors , aud he was sure that honourable members ' wbuld not lead themselves to the viewd of 8 . » m 3 who took part in this subject oat

      of doors . ^ He trusted thea that honourable members iu discussing this question would do so with the sole view of bsnefitting the childrea , and of putting ths law on a more intelligible footing . He hoped that the act would now be settled ia a deRuite shape by the house , api that it woald pat an end to that Uncertainty which had hitherto been hanging both over the owners of factories . aai operative * , as to what the law actually was , and what the legislature idteaded it should be . The honourable geatlenua , whose speech was heard very indistiactly oa nccouat of his turning his back to tae gallery , and than addressiag the house during the entire time he wai speaking , concluded by moving that the bill be read a second time . Upoa the question being pat ,

      Lord ASHLEY said that ka felt it qiite utmeeeu&ry for him to daUin tha Home . Tho bill then before them wa undoubtedly a grejt iinproveia ^ at , not only upo * the existing act , bat aUo upjn the bill of la « t rear . Ha agreed entirely m to tho principle of the bill , though ke differed as to- the details . The only point he objected to was a matter of detail . It waits be found in the thirty- ^ ixtb , claaie . It cooTerred powers wkich were quite iadefeRiibje upon thi inspectors aiich large powers , that they could , if th « y p )« ned , ouke an aVteration ia the act , or at \ e * M i « tho ^ s paru of it that were estentiat and important , and which effected the protection of thfl children . He ob }* etsd , too , very much to the plan , of making Sundays the day * on whtc ! i schooling should lake place . If tha bill were carried oat with a few minute alteration * , it would be ths mean * of carrying into eSaet the alteration * of the existing law ,, which they were all anxious to see accomplished , ana it certainly would confer a benefit upon the young children who worked in factories .

      Mr . HINDLBY remarked that it had teen , said that this bill would be a settlement of the qaMtion . If the Honourable the Under Secretary of State thonxht that nuking this a mere police bill would ba a aettlerrunt of the question , or that it would prevant agitation , he would find oioualf very guevatisly i » Ula , lcen . By this bill it appeared , that an Uapector woald have the power . and the right tocoinpoaad a feUnjfl' mad this hi might da if a null-owner wished , instead of going before » Magistrate , to compoand with , the inspector . Doing this , too , \ t « would be able to avoid having his name in _ their retariH , which were •« annoying to rmll-owoeH . By this bill ntnaey wai thiu allowed to be takoaby the inspectors . His Honoarable Kriend had said that , by tha act , children migkt ba Aide to work elevea hours without allowing time furjneals . If that were the one , then , inleed , it shj > vjd a great vl » al of carelessness in , legislation . He appealed to toon whflthir it ith f * ir that chiliren shoald , without intermission ,. bo obliged to wurk for sis . hoars . Ha hoped 'that iu comnutten an . alteration wooldl be made in that Ksnect . It was hU wish ta sae the bill aomuoh iaiproved , that it might prove to be » settWovsat of this long agiutod question .

      Mr . SLA . Jl . Er considered the bill a very great improvement . He agreed with tha principle of the bUI , though he differed as to many of iu d-itails . Under th « - former bill , th » certificates ware nQt sufficiently stringent ; and as to the edocation clauses , h » did not think they were suffloieat for the purpose they had in view-. Ia a committee of which . he was chairtnaa last year , it appeared that the education ^ children iafactories was a mere farce . Hj suggested then that sab-inspectors should be appointed to examine the schools , and to make , returns , for the-purpose of insariog-therdue education of the children . It aoptfare-l that the state of edacatioa ia Leeds was I iu 41 , ia ttinuingaitu I in . 35 , and in Manchester 1 in 38 whereas by the returns it appi ! arad : that the proportion of those admittol ought to be as one in , « ight .

      Mr . BALHS 3 obiervod that by the bill children were to b * employed for 48 hoars iu the . woek . The principle woald b » better carriaii out b / making , children work , but sir . hours each day . IF tkat wer « strictly enforced , childrea even under nine years of age might be employed . There was no agitation now . on , tho sabjget . When the former bill was enacted the country was . in a flame , while there wa » nothing nowito interfere with free legislation .. But , then , ke asked , ought not . others to be restricted as . waU as mill-owAers ? They talked macU of humanity in this city ; b « t were thare aot to be-found h » re those woo were worsr med than thosn om > ployed ukfactories ? Amongst the milliners and dres » makers there , ware to be found greater aboaes thaa . in . factories . ( Hear , hear , and U < ig . htor . ) , So at least Us was told—of coarse it was n ^ t within- his knowledgo . ( LaugJ \ ter . ) It was not at all unusnpA for young faaale * of a tenilbr age to be employed twelve , fourteen , sixteen , and eighteen hjnrs in

      the day . ( Liogater . ) Now > if tUis were true ,, he did not kaow . how the Noble Lord opposite- ( Lord Aahlojr ) reconciled it to his huaunitc ta neglect cases like these , wiiich war « no very numerous —( laughter)—and wiua the abass prevailed all over Bnzlaa 3 > . ao that a lafger mimbar of feiaailea wera s * ill-treated than of children in factories . ( Laughter-. ) He was astonished- thosa-fnakaUs had never attracted the attention of the Noble horii , ( Laughter . ) He woald only further s » y , that ia legisl * ting with regard to toe owa « ra of factories , Uwf . must bsar in mind thit tkVe was one moit by which the nwnber of the , boors , of labour might be co asiderably diminiihed , namsly , by making foad more cheap —{ haar , hear)—in reality , bV repealing the taxss on food . Then , instead of having ehildfeo employed fortwelrB hours a day , they might very , well K * employed only ten hoars a day i and the operation would no * # pply to . children only » bat woald apply to adults , aud ha hoasd the Noble Lord opposite- / Lord

      Ashley ) would lora his attention to this subj , 8 Ct in . the course of the legislation ha was pursuing with respect to the fdotary children . L ^ k him ba aWowdiwita all gravity—^ alakgh . )—to say , that in the manufactories of tha ceatineat neither children nor adults were restrained from ' working any number of ha-ars in tho day which they and their masters might think proper . Was it nat , or at least might it not , Vsooma a grievous hardship on the maaufaitarers of this country to impose upon them the neoessity of paying a high price for their bread , ( pries of " Question . ") He haped ho w * 3 speaking to- the question . ( H * ar , hear . ) The observation he was raikina was , that if they imposed on the manufacturers of this eooatrr such restraints a * would banish those nunalaataren in whioh this country had so much flioriahed , what , ha wauld ask

      wa » to becom * ol the Iaaila 4 interest ? I * t them look at the situation in . which they would be placed . Tbj » manufacturer of this counts was coapellei t » eat fool at 60 or 70 nnr cent Uwhpr thaa the . fo » d of tha manufaetBrer of the continent and ia the second plaee , we re » trieted tha hauMof . labour , an that parsons'Were employed oa ths continent ¦ frequentlr at ths rate W twenty p * r ceat . per oay beyond the tim » luring whwh the Bngluh Ainufaetnrer was permitted to work These were considerations which ought not tob * lost swht if , and he begged to . unpreaa them npon the House , with the fall cotmctioa that mvl «» s thay punueithis coarse of leaislatton with propor caahon . th » effact of it might be t » drive the rainufactuxe * from , this country , and to plaoo both the : iunafa « turdj and ths ' landed intsrest in a most Jeplorabk iituatioa . as thought that tbo prorisianj of the preaeat Bill

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      woald be eflicient tot tm srffaining of iha etfJ they all wished to attain ; and * r htf dMrefore , from 6 M&& flte Home against it , ha would StyQofl it to the beat of his prtforv reserving to taimwlf an opportahity wfen in , coaimittM ta offer such suggertious u migW btf preWDted tohis owtt mind or . by his coaatUaeats , wha Were cWply interested in . this question . Mr . BrtorHBRTOJ * wid that thff argfombtit of the Hon . M-toner for Leeds seemea tn » favour the opinion that ao lets * lati « n whatever was required on thi 9 subject . Now , all eaSwrwnce had shewn that legUla&m v »" a « ab »)! ately neceasary and had been highly beneficial . ( Hear , hear . ) Thlsmstii ^ tioa wa » very dear between m ' uwters sinrf dre 9 » in ! ak « rs ; auA factory caildren . ( A laugh . ) In tha faetoriw thw * warn ftU andypuog , weak » ad strong , w - orktng altogether at osw and the « na hour ; they couldnit ^ tbierafare , be oonfcidmdl as / ree labourers . If oiw part of the mfcchiafejy vvasatottnt *^ ths effect vrotrid be to- stop the reinaiader , ai all th » m « t * oTtUo wjrk in the factorie * mast be ebntinnanir o-oini- ™ .

      , wua reg « d to tto millintera aai dras ^ kers , ' t ^ iTwortT ddaotae pBnaiip 0 nBnchitftry ; and if or * person- wistaka 11 , another conl&supplybwplaee , and o&ythe labo ^ rf the one indiiridual wi > uM be fet . Thsro ifas , therefore m West dutiaetuw Their objact otoht tob * tcTaS gI ^ ¥ S <^ «{ S ) l ^ it 1 ' - '^!" " ^?* th 9 worWn » » th . S «^ X g £ vt . stes «« sai ( Star ! Xe £ )* W ° ^ ' ° * " meaaare ^ SbSu-JArXmxiJAW said that whsa the Bill was in commahw W . should i . treduce anamendment With * regard toSZ tun . If religion were introdBecd into the edueatloa oHSk u ^ TSf »» « hope d it would-thweinust te precaution ^ ther effect of prot « tin ) f aU classes ,- so that th % y might te ttbZ ^ e ^ amyt ^ agt 0 the rrfi 8 bM peraaasion to irMcfc . . Mr . f , MAULS said : he was very mtich irratified at tht , war for

      • Ration , of the B ^ . Member A , hTon . und ^ LW ( ifr Hmdlej ) , that thU Bill authorised thtria . pectorsYo-co ^> oa would be a sufficient answer . The w « rds of the claoM- S ' a * fallow r- « An ! be it enacted , that w every case inf wS an / p « rsoa who shall be chargeable wlih-nny o&a&t mfnitut this &ct , not beiBg a grare or flagrant oflenee , « hall be ^ &W to subscribe and pay towards the fund for th \ estabtiahnwrnt ui improvement ofbeteiy mWI > , such « amas to tluS tor sh ill seem , reasonable , in consideration- of ttot being moh , shall ? h , t fif ^ > lt 8 hlU b 2 ^ for Ae i »* P ^ Tif b . 4 shall think ht , torecetr * and apply mieh ' sam-for hue uarpMeeaforesMd , and ^ therenpon toforb ' ear tro ^^ J ^ &Z sucttpersan fofth * t offence ; and no parson wh » shaU ^ f p * id such sam before any information shall h » ra biaalaa aganst him for such offe . ee , shall ba liable to > b « Droeee ^ l against f « the 9 a » a offence on account of whichKnmiS puJ ; and every w ^ sctor shall include in the report whicS son ' wh ^ mh H 1 i w quirea ^ « aa « want oTevory ^ ? h « r 8 ^*\! have s" farbori » 9 to prosecute , the natnwof

      ^ ffSfiZtoSST *** 1 Committ ee or Mr . WALLACE moved tha sacona reading of the Salmon ¦^ i ^^ J ^ &SiS ?^ ** """^ Th < 3 House divided , when the numbers were—For the motion ..... * . „ . » a rorthe ainsadaunt .. . ^ . »> .......,., a ' Majority - aglinst the Bill ~ 26 * Mr . PACKING TOM moved for and obtained leave to i * troduce a Bill to enable the Justice ., of couatias in oSr ^

      Hon M , tf * PF 7 i *• m < iiia 9 » f Mr . BAINS 3 , forth * i ^^ sa ^ isff ^^^^? - ^ - * jfess ^ s ^ sr from magutrates , and ths num !» rof keepers of beer ^ hww hcensei to sail beer only , from tbe EMi * Twh <> tavTtee ^ charged mth breaches of th » law * in ths year 1 S » to 1 ^ botamclusive . mth , towns of Liverpool / M » nctoter , «?¦ a » aghaa » , and Lead <; siting the number convicted and t £ » aamberdisaussedm each year ; an 4 the number of licensed The Haose adjonrned at a quarter-past eleren *

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      HOU 5 B 0 F LORD 3 . —Jfwdiiy , F * bru * ry 25 i . Many petitioas were predated oa tbe subject of aL ^ a&eS , ' ^ " " " ^ ^ The Earl tf-RIPOX moved . for various return * reararding t&e importation of com , aad thu exaortauen of matiafactures . e The MaraaU « f NOR . WANBY stated tliat bo expdct ^ d to t > 3 aWe tu lay the secoad appendix , to Lord Durham s report before the hexwaoa Thorsday . Lard DUNCAN . KOM mavei the secoad readias of the Irwh Poor Law Amendment Bill . ^^ The IVake of WELLINGTON concarred ioi th * amsadmeat .

      Lord BaOU&ri AM remarked that tha last torn * - dofte last swsion was to pass tais bill , a-id the first taing tae pre * enc session did was to alter it . Lord WICKLQW maintained that every bflt broagat ia by toe present minister * required amend-Lord BROUGHAM said there waa tme bill that reqaired none , the English poor lair . Lord MELBOURNE contended th « t all govemnients were obliged to ameadTtheir acts . As forth baglish poor law , if it was not altered , it was not DSCAnse it did not require it . Lord . RjtOUG « A . vt had aevsr heard before thafc it required alteration . Tae bill wai reai a second time . Tke Marquis of tfORMANBiT or ^ n ^ r ^ m

      retarns ordered Ian muio ' a , and entered ioto aoma explanation 0 / the circarastances under which tha seatease * » f Coghlan and Bryaa . were commoted ^ Cj > ghlaa » senteace was camxuatei on-the-cerdficat * 01 a surg&oo . A ducussioa aroso oa the point ; . in . th& coarse ol which , Lord * Broaifham and Ljrndhurst concurred in regarding it as a most serious-matter that the certificate of a sargeon shoald at once-set aside thesentence of a-jndge . Ta « y iasistei that the certificate shoald be- produced . Tae iViariyii * of NORMANSY obserrod that th » qaesboa was , whether the maa was ia a . fit state o £ healtLto . be sent to New South Walav and the « urgeou had decided that he was-not Lord BAOHJGHAM gave notice that he woull move for the certificate . Soon , afterr which , thahouse adj earned .

      Tuesday , February ^ . On the commitment of the Borough . Courts . KlL Lord BROUGrHA > t urged the necessity of sotnl general measure ou the-subject of Cbunty Coarts whereby adequate provision . might be made for ths . recovery of small debts ^ , the neewsity beia » shovra . ! by the fact . of there being . now be / ore-the Commoaa-. 21 peticioos , and already fiv « bills actually ia th » - tlousa for local courts . for th « recovery of amall debts—all which would oreatfr so many increased . difficulties in the way of a general remedy . The , LORD CttAN £ ! ELLX ) R : admitted tbB importanoe of the subject , and the necessity of attendiagto . it . , ¦ After some discussion the BlU went through th * CoauHittee ; as did , also th » Poor Relief ( Ireland A . ot Amendment BUI .

      _ Lord CH A RLEYILLB ^ biiervea that the return * woered respecting the administratieQ , of justice ia . Ireland , &o . j should , go Swther back , at least two . . . years , . so that there might be ample information before their Lordships . The MJarqais of NOBtMANB ^ saicl that he hai no objection to th « fullo * t information , being obtained ; for seven yeaars back , if such were the wish tf their ; Lordships . , A long conversattoQ ensued , but no objectjoi . « a » urged to the production of the papers . In , the Commons they were unable " ta , raaka a . House . ' * '

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), March 2, 1839, page 5, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1047/page/5/