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    j THE NORTHERN STAR. _j "^ April 8, 184'...

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    s & ow and boots , being obviously the mest p ™ 2 tabIe ? art "Sf the w ork . Thess men found tbe work diminishing . -Bd- the cause was , Ue large qaantify of boots and s 5 »» imported into Inrcraets from ether places—tne _^ «* of which , if _coatiaufrf _, _woald *»»• rnIn . on , _~! _upwatives here , who _wauld , in coastqnence , be _umiwa £ atheir « mp ! oTaienttothe mending merely . _*<>™>™ * M * emergency , tne _joaraejmen mase a perfectly civil * the importation to _coDtinned _, after _sufficient lime is Slven to _dl . p _»« of the stock oa hand , we w > U mend no men shoes or boots thst you get mede oat of Inverness _Icq journeymen did not threaten any consequences but the withdraws ! of their _services;—and was it to be said

    « aa * they were n _» t entitled to make this very reasonable gad proper stipulation as a condition of their future _6 Bgage-neat ? AH the masters _agreed In thtt—that UO _Jouraejman is en ( _jaged longer than ha takeg ta _ficUh t & _i piece then oa hand . All that _wes threatened was ¦ _* _tbzt was conceded hy the learned _csunsel to he tho sight of his clients—to refute to take farther employ _, same after the _pltea-work on hand at tha t ' me was _fioiihed . The pat pose of the pannels in this threat 0 ( _ffafasal is , however , said to render the threat illegal . Sow , conld any one doubt the sele and exclusive pur-BOSS fobs to protect their own rights and prevent niter « a . a to _thtmselveB and tbeir families , The other Branch of the case referred to Poison , who was taken

    Sato _Hecqueens' shop as a cntter and for smaller jobs . * _Tbere was an understanding in the trade , and a rule _estaBlished among the _journejtsen , which was known _* 3 be _perfeet-y well known to the Macqueens at tbe —ma flier ' employed Poison , that no cutter gets the - « rork ot a j onr _aty man inM . de the Baon ' , Had that if such ¦ wark be giv _^ n , the nie * working for that shop will quit . S £ _aco _. neen not only knew this rale to be established among the journeymen , bnt by his emploment of them is ths _knowledge of the rule , he must be held to have sanctioned It . and to havo engaged them upon that

    understanding :. Sow , what had _happpened in the case ot Poison f that , although only engaged a « a cutter , he geiS the closing of boots , the most profitable branch of tag whole work , aad the men employed on tha faith of Sit , understanding to which _hs- was referred , g & t the * JrGd > ery to do merely . Was it not natur . il , upon this fceaeh of faith on the put of the master , and his breach ef contract with his otm cutter , for the m > n to have retaaaetrated nith Macqueen , and in the ereat of his not implementing the rale , had they not a perfect right to intimate thst thtir services-would he withdrawn J This

    ¦ s all they t-reatencd to do . Their _intimations were conveyed in a quiet , civil , _business-Uke way , and no _visleace was threatened . The existence of a purpose , _eren assuming it to be illegal , was _notcognisabU under the statute , unless such purpose were enforced by _illegal _sieaas ; and , with _defl-rence , be ( Sir D . ) demurred to € he opposite proposition laid down by tbe learned counsel < 3 _S thia srjbj' _-cr . After _citisg several _authnritit-s and going over the evidence at some length , Ifr Dallas concladed an ab'e _adilrtss by calling npon tbe Court , on « v « y principle of equity ani freedom of action , to acquit . 61 s _clisnts . We need scarcely add that _jn-lge-jury sheriff , Co ' qufcsan pronouac & d the panuel guilty , and sentenced , four « f tbem to two months * imprisonment , aad tbe fifth to cue month .

    Comment on this farce is _nanecessary . An appeal against the conviction i < _s entered , and will ba discussed in Edinburgh , in the coarse of tbe present moat )* . Thess goer men must be rescued from the fangs of their vam . pire persecutors . The opinion cf the best lawjers of Edinburgh , is tfat the conviction U had , and will be overruled by the superior conrt . The money must ba found to pay the costs . Tbe trades of England will not _suffer their fel ! ow-sl * ves te pine in a dunueon for lack _< ££ 50 . Oae halfpenny each from 25 , 000 _individsals will ba mora than sufficient . We therefore confidently _sppesl to _ih-s trades far tbeir assistaace iu behalf of these men , snd at the came time to re-affirm their ce-< ezmm & tioa to defend theic rights cf _association from all _eggreuion .

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    THE NORTHERN STAR . _ j " _^ April 8 , 184 ' . - — - - - — - in in . ¦ _¦ ¦ miTi . ii—win _mi _^ _faiM _. ¦ i ii _itiiiiim i ¦ ii ii i _m _. _^¦¦¦ _.. ¦ _naiiTTTriJMiiiB _rar iTi _rarrrnr III ii iTi _^ -

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    * THE NATIONAL CONVENTION . [ Continued from the First Page . ) Mr Thomas Cues , in rising io submit a programme , Baid , they had not taken steps aa regarding _ulterior measures ; feeling that they were the Executive not the legislative body , one individual might from a platform offer & recommendation , and be alone responsible for such a recommendation , but had "the Executive done so . the whole body would have bean involved . The National Petition wonld show the numbers desirous of being represeated , and then it was for the country to say what next steps should _fee taken ; and perhaps you would wish to know wha * steps we ( the Executive Committee ) would recommend . The House of Commons was only one of the estates of the realm , and hence we should recommend

    thst a memorial be presented io the Q , ueen , _prayma B . er to _di-anlva the House of Commons , and call to _&? r councils men who would make the _Chai ter a Cabinet iseausre . _nrgine that one out of seven have no _righttotaxiheothersir . Theyfirstthenappealedtothe Commons , the representatives of one seventh of the people . We _csuld not recognise tho Lords , hence we p _*«< them by , snd go to the monarch ; and let tbem . Iik 9 tke Americans , issae a manifesto , giving the representatives of one-seventh _theopportuaity of wiping < S . the stain and stigma that now rest upon them . They proposed th 3 t this memorial shon'd be adopted at simultaneous _mietinss to be held on Good Friday

    and he hoped they wonld make a good day ' s work ef it . ( Lond cheers . ) They nroposcd that delegates should present those memorials to the Qa'en , and then he hoped to see a delegation of at least 500 persons . They wished to see quiet , determined , and _earnest _measures taken , as this was better than enthusiasm . The Executive Committee would not shrink from any responsibility this course might eat & il . The Executive Committee thought the _sitting of ihe present body should not ba permanent . hai that in the interim the country should be agitated fiom one end tothe other— ( hear , hear )—and that another Convention be held to carry out the measures now recommended . ( Lond cheers . )

    Mr 0 'Bfiir . x save notice tDat ho would submit a siotion to the effect— 'That this Convention do _peroral its legitimate _dnty of presenting the petition , and that being the _representative of a small fraction , that a body representing the whole people shall be summoned to tkke ulterior measures to carry the Charter . ' Mr T . CtAss then formerly moved the first proposition on bis programmei _^ Mr G , J . _IJars-bt said , he thought it wonld bs _advisable to get the programme and Mr O'Brien ' s caotioa printed , and _pntin the hands of themembers _, and the discussion take place thereon _to-mrrrow . _Tfiey were so important , that he conceived thia should _fre dane t so that each member might understand f & en _, Mr _Clibk assented to the suegestion .

    Mr Ktdd rose to submit a motion relative to the issuing an address , lie waa aware that many _commUaiana were in existence , but he thought that if Lerd John _Russe . _'J , really knew the state of tho people , ha could not treat them in the way he did . He would move the following resolution : — ' That an address expressive of the condition of the people be < irawnup and _Kubmitted to the people . ' Mr _CcMiiiscs seconded the motion . Mr T . M . _Wheeler suggested that the motion should stand over until the programme was considered and settled . Mr Johs _Wsit said , the question was a' very important one , and he cculd not but think the _governsient and the middle classes were ignorant of tbe * State of _Ecgtond _auestion ; ' they ran away with the idea , that we wanted tie elective franchise for power ' s sake , instead of 23 a protection for our industry .

    Mt Wild said , he wanted an address a 3 _rroch as any one—bat thought it premature ; he wished a slight delay—say two days—he would _movezn _amecdnient to _thifc ¦ - freer . . Mr _Avr-K _seconded the amendment . ¦ It being now five o ' e ' ock the _Convention adjourned j THURSDAY MORNING—Aran , Gin . _& S on previous occasions , the galleries were ' « awdsd , and hundreds assembled around the doors -of the hall . Mr M ! _Gsath took the chair at nine o ' clock . Mr Etbd , in _resuming the adjourned debate , said , Mr Wheeler thought his motion premature , _Tthiist he thought , if anything , it had been delayed -too long . Several delegates here rose , and expressed a wiih ta speak on tbe subject . Mr & tdd waved hi 3 reply for a time . _Mr-Wheelee requested Air Kydd to withdraw . _iilr-KTDB declined .

    Ir'r J , A . _Fussszi said , the address proposed would give great _satisfaction to bis constituents , and he _fcelieved it was well calculated to do a great deal of _good , * show . : Gij the real state of the operatives . Mr ¦ 08105 ' said , although ha thought thst thc general distress of the operatives w _^ _a well known _, bat * , as ignorance was pleaded , aad as it was _cal-CttlaUd to do much good , he , therefore , cordially _supported tha motion . Mr _CrjFFAT opposed the address as being entirely ancalled-for and unnecessary . The working classes & new that distress prevailed—the middle classes knew that distress prevailed , too—it waa but tc Ling them what lhey knew already ; and besides , tho monej- of the Convention should be dealt charily "with . Mr Fr-xk MiRF _/ _iiLD said , he _thought an address

    -s & ould be i-. _sued , although he thought the d stress * _waa known , and hence , he wishtd the address to recommend simultaneous meetings on M-nday next , and he wished that somo such _sentiment should be contained therein a 3— ' that it was necessary ihat the _-srholeconntry _; should be up when the Petition wag presented . * MrM'Cisirrr said , he supported the amendment as being best cilculated to _eause the provinces to bo acquainted with the mBtroBolii _* , and vice versa . _MrSKvsss ssid , the country would expect some address , but , for himsEif . be thought the time for Bfinguss it _fotwajd _vn _rUh « premature . Aa to _4 X _$ _sas _ he _Wisved the people WO _uy g _^ ac * one

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    Mr Ersbsi Joires said , he rose to support the motion of the delegate for Oldham . The delegate for London had said it was useless to draw up this address , because the working classes were aware of the misery they felt themselves—granted . The middle classes were aware of it also—granted . But tbey ought to be told , that the Convention was aware of it , too , and meant to make it one of their chief considerations . ( Cheers . ) Here was the great strength of the _Coareatiou—that they were not merely political innovators , but social reformers as

    well . ( Loud cheers >) It was , therefore , necessary one of the first acts should be to prove this to the world . { Hear , hear . ) A delegate had said after Monday was time enough . It was not ; for this very address might influence many who wonld fear to join us on Monday . Aa to expense , let not the Convention fear . The country ' s work was about to be done , and they would ba ready to supply the means , now talk had changed to work . ( Cheers . ) Mr Cochrane said , he would advise Mr Kydd to withdraw his motion until the other subjects were discussed .

    Mr E _JoNEsrose to support Mr Kydd ' s motion , and said , he believed that tbey should present such a mass of matter , disclosing such an amount of human suffering , as the men of tha metropolis were in entire ignorance of . ( Hear , bear . ) Mr T . Clark said , the only exception he took was , that Mr Kydd ' s motion had not been the very first business introduced ; ha was sure it would materially strengthen any proceeding , we might ultimately take , and hence , he had much pleasure in supporting Mr Kydd ' s motion . Air E . Jones begged to read a letter he had just received , bearing on the puint , strongly recommending some such address .

    Mr _Glsnsister had much pleasure in supporting Mr Kydd ' s motion . Mr nncHis said , he never iiad greater pleasure in supporting any motion , and believed , if the real condition of the people were known that many of the middle and upper olas _« es would be induced to render their support in the movement for their enfranchise ment . Mr _O'Coknor , at this moment , entered , and was received with great cheering . Tha amendments werewith consentwithdrawn . ""

    , , Mr Petme said , he believed the motion was calculated to do an incalculable amountot good . ( Hear . ) Mr Cobden had recommended that _expsnditora should be confined to the limits of income . The go . rernment had commenced at the wrong end , reducing clerks and leaving the oomfortable officers untouched . A mealing had been held in Plymouth , to _congratulate the Queen on the birth of a princess , when ihe working classes had attended , and reminded ihe Mayor that poor women had not the means of getting a scfBciener of water-gruel .

    The motion was then put and carried unanimously , and a resolution that a committee of seven bo appointed to carry out the same . [ Messrs Kydd , West , Adam-, Wild , Graham , Marsden , and Leach , were appointed . ! Mr O'Conkob moved tbat a petition be drawn up by a committee , and signed by every member of thc Convention , in favour ol Frost , Williams , Jones , and all political offenders . Carried _uaanimoualy . A committee , consisting of Mr Dixon , G . W . M . Reynolds , and B . O'Erien , were appointed for that purpose . 31 e T . Clibil then rose to submit theprogrammc of the Executive Council : — Programme of _buriness submitted by tke Executive Committee to the National Convention .

    1 st—That , in the event of the National Petition _bein- _* r rejected by the House ol Commons , that this Convention _^ prepare a National Memorial to the Queen to dissolve the present Parliament , aBd call to her council such ministers only as will make the People's Charter a cabinet measure . 2 nd . —This this Convention agree to _thoconvoca tion of a National Assembly , to consist of delegates appointed at public meetings , for the purpose of presenting the National Memorial to the Queen ; and adopting such other steps as they may deem advisable to secure tha immediate establishment of the Peo pie ' s Cbarter . 3 rd . —This Convention call upon the country to hold simultaneous meetings on Good Friday , April 21 st , for the purpose of adopting the National Memorial , and electing delegates for the National Assembly .

    i _' _-h . —T hat the National Assembly meet in London , 03 Monday , _Mey 1 st , 1843 . Mr Cubk , having read the above , moved the first paragraph en behalf of the Executive Committee . Mr _O'CosNor was opposed to addressing the electoral body , and thought the programme had better be discussed as a whole . Mr _O'Bjuen _tookasimilar objection . Mr Clark , took hia seat as delegate for Bristol . Mr Wbeeleb seconded Mr Clark's motion for a memorial to the Queen . Mr Adams thought no arrangements of this sort should take place _befere the arrangements were made relative to the presentation ot the Petition _, lie wished to go with the majority , and was prepared t > deso , even t * the scan . Id —( cheers)—and moved an amendment in accordance with his speech .

    Mr Cdpfat , as chairman of the Demonstration Committee , said , all and every preparation was made for the procession , and presentation of the Petition On Monday next . Mr _O'Ci'Snor reported that a carriage was orepared at Sniu ' _sEnd , for the conveyance of tho Petition , and another for the delegates , so thatthe inconvenience of persons carrying the Petition , experienced on the last occasion , wonld be obviated . ( Loudeheers . ) Mr Adams withdrew , with consent , bis amend ment . Mr T . M- Wheeler proposed that as address be _issued to the shopkeepers of London , stating that they had no danger to apprehend from tho procession on Monday ; that they were in favour of , and determined to protect life and property ; and that tbey bad no intention of a collision with the constituted authorities .

    This was seconded , and , after a few words from _several _delegates , it waa carried , wiih only two _diasent'ents . The d ' ucttss _' . oa on the programme waa again resumed . Mr Clxbk presumed , that if any _delegate had amendments to move a . ainst tbe propositions embraced in the programme of thc Executive , this was the time to move them . Mr _Cdttat said , he considered th . 9 programme one of serious import , and wished to submit an amendment , to the effect , ' That as the programme had not yet been printed , it should be done prior to a discussion taking place thereon . ' Mr Clark again _stated that be could not get it printed in lime . Mr Cuffay ' s amendment net being seconded ,

    Mr G . W . M . Rstkolds said , he did not rise to give a factious opposition to the Executive Committee , but must confess he was astonished when be heard the _programme read—as many had expressed a determination to have the Charier before the Convention broke op—and on hearing Mr O'Connor's magnificent speech yesterday , he mentally exclaimed ' Thank God , we shall hare no more tem _« porising . ' Yet we had the temporising policy of tbe programme . Why , appealing to the Queen ,

    WAS like appealing first to the Lord Chancellor on tho bench , then to the _Bama Lord in Privy Council ; and the Queen had been applied to on behalf of starving Spitalfields Weavers , and her answer was she had ne funds . What ? no funds out of _£ * _CO , 000 per annum . Ha was sick of procrastinatioD , and he repeated that such rejection vculd be a declaration of war . Mr Reynold * moved : 'That ill the event of the rejection , the Convention declare its sitting permanent , and declare the Charter the l _* . w of the land . '

    Mr _VTilliam _Cufpat seconded the amendment , he should take the _Ejection as a declaration of war , and be prepared to go to war accordingly , and the Executive should be prepared te lead on to liberty or to death . Mr J . B . O'Bhibh said / at the risk of any unpopularity he should venture to oppose both programme and amendment . He was opposed to any further petition , er memorial ; but he thought before they declared tho sitting of an assembly permanent , they should have the sanction of the great mass of the

    _jeople , instead of a fraction , as now ; thus , for instance , he was elected by some two thousand out of two millions of persona in thia metropolis . And ft should be known , that thera were many Chartists , and others , going for the principUs , that were not represented here , having noconfidehcein either himself or Mr O'Connor ; ho would therefore move an amendment , to the effect that tho present Convention confine itself to presenting the petition , and that a National Assembly ba called instead ; then , como what may , it should declare its _sittinga permanent , and go on , cosie weal como woe .

    Mr Lowest seconded the amendment , as his constituents were not yet in favour of violent ulterior measures . Mr 0 Coksob said Mr Cuffiy was a good Chartist , but he emphatically denied that he or the Executive wished , by any means , to impede the movement , iie came now to fhe most important of all questions . Andhere let him repeat , that whatever thia Convention agreed on , he was prepared to do . ( Laud cheers . } It was Don _« _enEe to tell him - that the Executive was shrinking from _ri-k ; they had

    communication with aU parts of the country , and understood the raind ofthe country . He had never failed to _Rtet danger , and now declared , in the _preaencB of tbe government reporter , so help him Gcd , _< ie would ra ' _-her die a martyr than live a slave . ( , lremendous cheering . ) But , he said , appeal , to the people before you declare ths sittings permanentorganise tLe trades , and others-and meet again on an early dav , and teen-ho cared not whether they _metnoraillsedor not ' , ay , anion that _wsoasioB , in despite of the Convention Art , ho would _? _ak tbe Irish to send delegates to it . ( _Great-applaose . ) Ho didsot tike tto i & _aef s _»& 6 g _aanasl _pasUasenfc

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    into septennial ones , and he implored them not to damage their righteoua cause by precipitation . Have a National , Assembly , all being represented , and he would be prepared to do its bidding . ( Long continued cheering from the , galleries and body ofthe hall ) Mr _Hbitrt CinM > said , he if one to move an amendment te both questions before the house , at the same time he repudiated the _observations made by a former speaker , that the Convention only repre _sented a few . He would move t—• That tha question underconsideration should be adjourned until after Monday next ; ' which was seconded . Mr O'Connor said , the Executive would abandon the Memorial . Mr Donovan said , that he did not think the Conference should abandon the Memorial . ( Hear ! hear !)

    MrCLAKK said , although the Executive abandoned it , he as a member did not , and hence it still remained before them . Mr Donovan said , Mr Reynolds had spoken strongly on making the sitting permanent ; but he should like to know what power they hud of d _*? ing so ? it would be an act of despotism , ilis constituents were desirous of having every step taken , and would stand by the decision of the Convention , be it what it may . ( L ud cheers . ) Mr TAirBKSALr . said , this was the most important question yet submitted ; it was simply this , were we

    tor war , and if so , had we the means of supporting it . In opposition to what had fallen from Mr O'Brien , he contended that they were the virtual representatives of the people , and he feared were 8 Uoh a Convention to assemble , ifca time would be lost in squabbling . ( Hear ! hear !) He _recom mended simultaneous meetings . If the _qwstion were left to the lads of Lancashire , they would say , 'Wewill fight for it . ' ( Loud cheers . ) lie wouid move— ' That simultaneous meetings be held on tbo 12 th of April next , and tbat such _meetings shall decide what shall be the future Bteps of the Convention- _,

    Mr Joseph _Linnkv seconded the amendment . * Mr E . Jones moved a further _amendment , as follows : — 'Be it resolved that , in the event of tho National Petition being rejected by tho House of Commons , a _memorial adopted at simultaneous meetings ofthe people shall be addressed to the Queen , demanding the dissolution of Parliament , and the dismissal of her ministerial advisers ; and further , that the said simultaneous _meeting shall elect delegates to a new Convention ! instructed to sit permanently until the Charter is made the law of the land , and that ths present Convention continue Bitting _until the meeting ofthe _KaUonal Convention . ' and said , be held it absolutely necessary tbat in tlie present crisis no backward step should be taken . 1 !

    tney wanted more membera m their Cdnvaotioo , that was areason nut to dismiss tho _* e they had . ( Cheers . ) He was surprised at one of tho delegates for London 8 _ayin-r t _^ ey _represei ted small constituencies ; their _conutitneacy waa the fire and a half millions who had signed the Nitional Petition . ( Loud clieets _. ) Ue was also surprised at fie delegate introducing party names . Tbe time was come for rseasares _, not men . He ( Mr Jones ) waa neither an _O'Gonnorite nor a _Stureite , lie recognised no' _ites _'—he only recognised two classes—the oppressor and the oppressed . ( Pro tracted cheering from ha ' , 1 and galleries . ) The L _*» n don _delegats had said the recent _movement on St Patrick ' s day had failed because the leading men had not _amalgamated , but he ( Mr Jones ) sa'd it had failed because the people had looked toe much to "leading men' instead of _buiidiig on themselves . ( Loudeheers . ) If this C < _nvuntiun

    does not shrink from its duty—we shall have a St Patrick ' s day in England—for all the -vermin will te driven out . ( _Cheeis . ) lie moved this ., amendment because he _thoucht it _necessary fcp me ' roorialite the Queen—not that he expected her cbmplianceebut history muat nevor have to say the Chartists took in bood _. that _whioh'hey might have gained in peace . ( Loud cheers ) That memorial would give time for better _organisa'ion-it would show that we were temperate , and the third step _nhauld show that we were brave . ( Great applacse . ) ¦ He moved the amendment , because it was abeolu ely _nscessary the organisation should go on instead of _goin-j back—gTow _la-gor instead of _smallfr—and the nucleus must be kept in LoDdon . The Convention must be kept sitting—and while they ouebt to be acting in the capital , they might be only electing in tbeprovinces . ( Protracted cheering . )

    Mr Clabk _seconded the amendment proposed by Mr Ernebt Jones . Mr _Stbvbmbosi supported the amendment of Mi Ernest Jones . Mr Lukd said , the great question was what should be the ultimate steps on a certain contingency arising ; for his part he thought they might as well consider what waa to be done if the memorial was rejected ; he thought the best way was to appeal to their constituents . Mr J . A , r _- ' _ussau , supported the _memerial to tho Queen , such memorial to be presented by a National

    _Aasembly . A large meeting held in the Birmingham Town Hall , had decided that all means should be taken to secure the object _^ in new . In reply to Mr Tattersall , he said , the Conference in _Birmingham was held for a different purpose from that which the meeting in question had been held , auch a meeting as that proposed bad never previously bsen held Mt Edmund Jones rose to support the amendment of Mr Ernest Jones . He thought that the best calculated to secure the object tbey all had at henrl ; he could not say he represented the middle classes of the port of Liverpool : but _, the down trodden oppressed working classes .

    Mr Shirbon raid , he supported the amendment of Mr Ernest Jones , and he thought Mr O'Brien would see its force . Here would be the simultaneous meetings , and the opportunity of such a National Assembly as he { Mr O'Brien ) desired . He should like Mr O'Brien to withdraw in favour of the amendment of Mr Ernest Jones . Mr Aston also supported Mr E . Jones , as regarded simultaneous meetings . lie should be justified in voting for making the sitting * permanent , aa hia constituents had given him instructions to that _< _fficfc ; ho should , therefore , support Mr Jones's amendment !

    Mr Adaus said he would , with confidence , appeal to the people , and should have no fear of such an event as that of 1842 . lie should like to have a body called , in whieh the Irish would be represented ; he did not wiih to gain the Charter by physical force , if it could be obtained otherwise ; he would support Mr Clark ' s motion . : . Mr Wilkinson said , it appeared to him they had Hot the power of constituting themselves a . permanent body . ' Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof . ' So much had been said about physical ulterior measures , he had told them that the people oi Exeter were a peaceable people . He fell in with the idea that they should have a more extended constituency . He should certainly like to have Ireland _represented , and he believed that if proper steps were taken , that many more than _fivemilliors of _sisnatures could be obtained to the memorial . He should return , after the _presentation of the petition to receive fresh instructions . _,

    Mr T . M . Wheblbb said , he did not see much differe nee of feeling , so far as the memorial was con « corned , and , as regarded other matters , ho thought the amendment proposed by Mr Jones was the best , snd be did not like the idea of breaking up until a fresh body was elected . It would be wrong to l . 'ave the post . of honour in the hour of danger . ( Great cheering ) He thought , from appearance a unanimous conclusion would be arrived at . ( Loud cheers . ) Mr _Buckbt said , his instructions were , not to leave until the Charter was the law of the land . His

    constituents were so poor that they wore not- on the average , in the receipt of five shillings per week . He bad once been deceived by tho middle classes , and would not be again ; the people had sent him there with strict instructions not to return without tho Charter , and they had accompanied him on leaving the town by a procession of 20 , 000 persons to the railway . At the station , amid waring of hats and _handkarckiefa . ths last words that Btill rutm in his ears were , ' Do not return without the Charter . ' ( Tremendous cheering . ) He supported Mr Jones ' s amendment .

    _MrGiiENHKTBB also supported Mr Jones ' s amendment . _MtDavid Thomas said , his constituents had desired bim to remain until the Charter was gained , and had sent b . ! sa for that purpose ; and although tuey were moral force men now they would soon be converted into physical force men . ( Loud cheers . ) _MrM'CAtiTHTsaid , he could not see why another assembly fhould be called , when the present could effect the object ; he represented tho Irish Confederates residing in Ireland , who were to a man Chartists . ( Loudeheers . ) He thought that five or six millions were a fair representation of the will ofthe nation ; and he argued the rejection of that will ' s expression , wae a declaration of war , which be and his constituents were prepared to aocept . ( Great applause . ) The time for adjournment having arrived , Mr _Habnst read the following letter . —

    Gosport , April 4 th , 1818 . Sin , —I was informed by a friend of mine , last _evening , andtvho is a cnrpcnterworWnit in Her Majesty ' s _^ dockyard , Portsmouth , tliat an order was received by the « fficers there , that they are to furnish , hy Satarday next , l , oo _* i truncheons , made nf African oals _. to he forwarded to London . The men In the joiners ' shop were at work on them yest erday . It is imagined that they are for the BDeciala or . _Mondny next , to be used ngauist the Chartists for _demiindltii ! thoir just _riuhtfl . I thought it my , duty to send you this communication tbat the 'lads' mi _^' it be prepared on Monday . ( Cheess of derision from ball and gallery . ) . The _Convention thei _adjourned . _AFTSRNOOH SITTING :, Mr M'Grath resumed the chair at _half . pasfc two o ' _clock .

    Mr _Dotus brought uf . the report and read the petition ef the _committee appointed to draw up the petition in favour of _Frest . Williams , and Jonc ? , and all other political _offendm ; also , tho address to the shopkeepers of the metropolis , Mr _Disau moved . —* Tbifc fcb . Q _renoi ! ho _reoewed _^ Agreed _toanenimoBaJf .

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    fcSgnMPMOH Or DEBATE ON THK _PROORiMM * . Mr CnRisTorufiR _Dotlb said , be bad an address to propose , but before he did _ao ,. he would , in reference to ifhat fell from Mr Reynolds say , as regards being tired of agitation , he had been an agitator since 1836 . and endured four imprisonments in tbe cause of the Chatter , and , _therefore , ha might aay , he wished the agitation concluded , but before it was , he wished to have it terminated successfully . ( Cheers . ) But allow him to _eaji that ho was not afraid of fighting , ho defied any ono fo say that Christopher Doyle , _wbb ever afraid of an enemy . ( Hear , hear . ) He differed with tbe idea of those who wouldj mako this a permanent body , and he thought the addendum he was about to propose would meet the approbation of Mr Ernest Jones . The addendum was— 'That this Convention agree to a provisional committee , _consistiag of thirteen of its members , to remain iu London until Buch time as the National Assembly were elected . '

    Mr Cuffav objeoted to the addendum , on the ground thatit did not emanate irom the Executive in their _collective capacity . Mr Ernest _JoNEsdeclined withdrawing his amendment , being equally opposed to the amended proposition . _MrDoriiBsaid _, four out of fire ofthe Executive had agreed to it . Mr Wilkinson said , when he heard some persons talk of guns , pikes , and swords , with such coolness , his blood chilled within his veinB , ( Laughter . ) Was it nothing for the father ' s band to be raised against the son , and tbe son's raised against the father 1 He highly approved of the addendum of the Executive Julian Harney , delegate from Nottingham , said he eaually dreaded rashness and weakness ; and he

    believed he would but steer clear of both by giving his hearty support to Mr Ernest Jones ' s amend _, ment . He thought they were bound to memorialise the Queen , not that he anticipated the demand contained in the memorial would he granted , but because they would therebyputtheirenemies stillfurther in the wrong . ( Applause . ) If they were refused admission to the presence of the Queen , the people would not fail to contrast the cold front of Buckingham Palace with the open doors ofthe Hotel de Ville , where the deputations of the working men were received at any hour of the day by the truly national government of France . He agreed with those who desired a fuller representation of the people . He wished the men who had the confidence of the trades of England to have seats in the People's Parliament . The elections to the National

    Assembly tatting place at the simultaneous meetings , would prevent the election of any but known patriots—thorough Chartists . He wanted a fuller representation of the industrious classes , but cared nothing for any other class . He desired that the new Assembly should be instructed to declare itself permanent . ( Cheers . ) He was instructed to vote for the permanency of the present Convention ; but he thought that the plan proposed in the amendment was the best . It had been said that a permanent Convention was a dictatorship , but in times of revolution a dictatorship was often necessary . They would have all the advantages of a permanent Convention by the present assembly continuing its sittings until the National Assembly met . If thc Petition was rejected , the Convention

    should ou Tuesday next , appoint commissioners to proceed to the country to prepare the people for Che simultaneous meetings . Two or three dele _, gates should be sent to Scotland , one to the border counties , one to Lancashire and Yorkshire , one to the midland counties , two or three to the south aiid west of England , and two or three to Ireland . ( Loud cheers . ) When the simultaneous meetings approached , the Convention might , if necessary , adjourn for forty-eight hours , to enable the delegates ta attend those meetings . There ohould be no breaking up of this Convention until the Assembly met . The Convention muse remain in London , and take advantage of every favourable circumstance to obtain tbe Cbarter with the lea 3 t possible delay . ( Great cheering )

    Mr Walter Baid he would not willingly consent to a dissolution of this assembly , until another was elected . He was seat here to obtain the People ' s Charter , and he would do so , even at the sacrifice of his life , if necessary . ( Cheers . ) Mi _< IVu . Dix jn said ha was pleased to find that tho memorial to her Majesty was likely to ba adopted . Even the _Amerioans had tried that step as a last resort ; and we could not justly say ber Majesty would not grant the prayer , until _snch times as they had made the attempt . ( Hear . ) He thought the addendum proposed by Mr Doyle a wise one . Were we to vote our sittings permanent , we should be as great a set of usurpers as were those members of parliament who were elected for three years , and made their sittings _aeptennial- _^ hear , hear )—and hence he was for the addendum , and would _aet in accordance with what they were sent here to perform .

    Mr James Watson said he rose to support Mr Ernest Jones's amendment , and was satisfied their constituents would not warrant them in _takine ) _rnAi stops , and Mr Jones ' s atnendmen , while ic was deter mined andf * ir , at the same time avoided raslmes ? . ( Cheers . ) Mr _Gkaimm said , aa he nnderstood Mr Jones ' s amendment , it did not make the sitting of this body permanent . ( No . no . ) Some _delegates were _pledged not to return untl the Charter became the law of tho land ; ond he could not -ee how they could support Mr Jones ' s amendmeni . He thought they had better return to their constituents for _instr . icti'ui .

    Mr R . Wild said , with most of tho things before the Convention he agreed , as they appeared all to be aiming at one thing . No \ vlvarec _* ga _* 8 ed no interest save that of the people , and he contended , that in the world at large no interest but ihat of the whole peot'le should be r _cognised , and therefore be trusted thit , tin calling a new National Assembly , hey would uot ppeal to middle , or any other c _^ e _** , but to the peopie at large . ¦ ( Loudeheers . ) He did not tbJnk that a Convention of five hundred wa 3 as likely to do so much no jd as a smaller one , _consisting of honest hearts and clean hands . ( Hear , hear , and che « rs . ) He f > h ' . uld on a _division _votj for the _amendmentofMrJonts . ( Cheers )

    Mr Cochrane said , there was such a similarity between the two motions , that he did hope one would bo withdrawn , to _prevent a division on the subject . He had been for twenty years an advocate of the people ' s cause , aad hid often gained disapprobation by advocating moral _Jforcc—and , £ of course , wer a revolution to take _plice ; the brunt , in a great measure , would fall on tbe men of London . Tue men in Piisley were constrained to live on a penny a diy —( shame !)—and really he could nothelp thiVkmg in pity it would l > e better that a few should die b / the sword , thnn that millions should perish of famine . ( Great cheering . ) Mr JJixchih would support Mr Jones ' s amendment .

    Mr Kt » j > said , if they adopted the addendum _pvoposed by the Executive , thry would be _adniittiog the right of the body to control the election of any _ssrsembly that might be called : and surely , they had aa much right to make their _gittingpermauent as they had to elect a provisional committee—tnd as this Convention had given members permission to go into the country to address publio meetings , this too , would apply to e ther of the subjects proposed . Mr Cochrane hid asked , how men " rom a distance were to know the _feelings of the men iu Iiondou ?

    He ( Mr Kydd ) said , remain in Lo _. idoi _, and you will le rnit . ( Lond cheers . ) The ques ion was , shall we _iemail , and have Iresb blood added , or _shill we break up , and allow a new nucleus to be formed ? Mr Wilkinson had expressed his regret that war _aSo'tld take _pluca ; he also regretted ' tt , twit _iras bitter t'i war with w oti » than remain until they were compelled to war with eac'i other for tee means of l ' _lYins . ( Tremendous ch _'* ering ) Messrs TATTERSAL & and Cnir _. p , with permission , withdrew tbeir amendments , in favour of that of Mr

    Jones . Mr Cummisgs siid , if the Petition was rejected , thc _ftclirg would rise so high that he would nit be re 3 pons'b . efijr the consequences , lie _shouldsupport Mr Jones . _ , * Mi * Fiunch supported Mr Jones ' s amendment . Mr _BoLWEth suid , he was not pledged to take tbe Charter back with bim—nevertheless ,- his _conttitutnts were resolved to dotheirduty , and , like cfcbets , uo _C of " pinion that _petmons were becoming uselos . ( Hear hear , ) They would _tupp-vt a memorial , and send up a _delegate ti buck it . He hid no tear in an appeal to the country ; he believed tbe _sanepe'S ns would be again returned with an addition Of tho fame 3 tf > mp to back them .

    Mr Smith s 'id , he _wxs _h'sppy to see such a unity of ' eeling ; he had no pps ' tive instructions , but bad the ( . _rivilegc of voting for what ho thought wosld best serve tho cause . He sl . oold support Ml * Emer , t Jones ' : ) proposition , and he believed the Irih people were _anxiously _looking . to this Convention . He knew tho Irish _leidents in Liverpool wore watch ing it with intense anxiety , * These wore tlio times to _tty men ' s souJs . ' When he camo here ho made up his mind ' Come _wtal c _* ma woe' to carry out tile rebolve of this Convention .

    Mt * Clark ( of the Executive ) having conferred with _Mosar ' . Jonas and Harney , stated , tha * . tha Executive _consented to Mr Jones ' s amondmeut , a _^ also to bis _Bnggeptiom for nltering tho date of tho _meefcixg ofthe National _Assembly , from the 1 st of Mav to the 24 th of April , and for _declaring the sitting of the Assembl y perraaneat till the obtainment of the Charter . He therefore submitted tae programme aa amended thus : — 1 st . —That in the event of tli « National PotJtion being _rejected by the Ilouse of _QammouB , thia Convention prepare a National _Manorial to tbo Queen te dissolve the preoent Purl ' amen t t and call to her council & _uoh _mlnletera only as will muke thu Feople ' _o _Chartd ? a _cobipet _rncnuorc . 2 nd .- ~ That thia tio & vtatioa _agreQ to tho _oanvdoatlou of a 2 fatton &) Assembly , to ? entlot of _Msg & _tst ) ep-

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    polntad at public meetings , to present thu Ns . _tlonal Memorial to the _Q-ieen and to continue _psrmatiendy sitting until the Charter is the law of this land , 3 rd .- —That this Convention call upon the country to hold simultaneous iueetringa on Good Friday , April SI , for the purpose of hdoptlug the National Memorial , asd electing delegates to ths _rfatfonat A _^ _oenab _!/ , 4 th —That thc National Assembly meet in London on Monday , April 2-1 ih . 5 th . —Tbat the present Convention shall continue its tlttiags uniH f ? e meeting of the _tfaitonal Assembly ,

    Mr Ernest Jones rose to second the programme as amended . He was proud of the unanimity in that Convention . The government reporters wauld hive bid news for their msiiterg . IVy would _fcll them tbat _personalities had died ; that self glorification had ceased ; that every man in tbat Convention was willing to be in the rear rank , in the day of triumph , but eager to be in the front rank , in the hour of danger . Mr Leach--aid , during the day severe denunciation bad been hurled at the heads of the middle

    classes ; now , that they had deceived the working classes was true , atthe same time thoy had deceived themselves ; in the new _assemb _' y he hoped to have many of them with us , the screw was fa » t bringing them over and if appealed to , a ureat number would be on our side , In respect to Ireland , it had been suggested that you should send delegates there ; he hoped to God they would . ( Liud cheers . ) The announcement that you had vesolved to send me there , to aid and assist in effecting the rights and liberties of both nations , would be received with heartfelt gladness . ( Great applause . )

    Mr O'Bmrm said , he rose to withdraw his amendment in favour of Mr Jones . Dr Huxtbb delivered some general remarks , and expressed himself in favour of the proposition contained in Mr Jones ' s amendment . Mr Frank Mxrfield hoped Mr Reynolds would _withdra-v his amendment . Mr Reynolds said , he was not the mantb cause division and he would at once withdraw his amendment , protesting against the memorial ts the Q , ueen . The programme as amended was then put—and carried unanimously . The delegates and people rising and cheering simultaneously . Tbe sittings of the Convention , have now excited such an intense sensation , that the hall is crowded to excess by strangers to listen to the proceedings , so much that the hall has all the appearance of a crowded public meeting . The Convention adjourned at _h-tff-past five o ' clock .

    FRIDAY MORNISG—Aran . 7 th . Mr M'Grath took the chair at nine o ' clock . Mr T . M . Whsbibb moved that the Convention should mud a ptoolamation declaring their determination to hold the meeting on Monday next , notwithstanding the foolish proclamation of the government and notice of the police . Mr Cuff at _seconded the motion , and asked that all applnuso should subside , and tha ; all steps should be taken coolly and _daliftera'ely , -, Mr J . West supported the motion , and said , that police notices or proclamations were not law . A law must emanate from the three estates of tho realmkings . Lords , and Commons—and hence , he set at defiance the police notice . Ue contended that people had a right to live . They were willing to work and live ; but they were not willing to work and atarve . Neither would they .

    Air _Cfliin also _supported the motion . Their intentions were peaceable , and if disorder ensued , the _conseqnence must fall on those who created it . Mr Adaus said , he felt it his duty _^ as the representative of a large body , to support the motion , and should the government break the law , it would be the duty ot the people to uphold it . He said this as the representative of half a million of people . Mr J Shaw said , he also represented a large constituency , and ha _muatconfeaa he was rather pleased

    at ' government pwaeeution th _&& otherwise . ( , ' _Ni _* , no , ' from Mr West . ) fie said yes—as he believed it wan calculated to bring the question to an is * u 9 . Mr _Stuvenson 8 aid . hu must support the motion . They had been deputed to perform a duty ; and were the whole membera of this Convention destroyed on Monday , it would not ba the first sacrifice made to _clasB legislation , They , the delegates , had ss preat a Btakt—thaic wives and _cailnreu—as Lord John Russell , or Lord Clarendon . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr R . _Cocurakb _alss supported the motion .

    _Mif West said the police notice said only ten persons should carry a petition ; why , their petition would be carried by _noraes . ( Laughter . ) Mr Bolwell said , the people did not wish to play at _edldwm _, but tbey wished io make s _peacMbie , moral , and vigorous demonstration ; but , should the government resist , it would bz for the people to say what steps should be then taken . Mr _Watsoii said , wbem be came here he counted the cost , and he found it bis duty te support the motion . He would go to that _demonstration let the _onngequflaee bo what it may . ( CheersJ . Mr Wilkinson repeated the opinions he hadfciven utterance te _yesterdiy . lie was deemed weak yestorday , and to-day he declared his determination to act with them , and attend the procession ; and if any gentleman had any doubts about him , why let tbem put him into the front rank .

    Mr 0 Connor hera arrived , and was greeted with lond cheering . Mr O'Connor , in reply to a question from Mr Cuffay , said no motion for an adjournment over thc _Eattev holidays had been made in the house ; on the contrary , they would have plenty to do . ( Hear , hear . ) He looked to their discretion and prudence * , and , although he had told them yesterday he had great privnte and public business , he had put that _aside toatiend to tbe more important business of this Convention , and he should attend the procession on Monday . He had told them in the house , last night , of the precedents for processions—the Reform Bill , Dorchester Labourers , and the Seamen , and in reply he was taunted with the

    expressions used out of this Convention . He was pleased to learn that they had agreed to continue thsir sitting ttfitU auch . time aa another Convention was elected . ( Hear , hear . ) He had been taunted with _turning the agitation to pecuniary ac c wit . From this day forward he putM > their _disposal the whole profits _arisfnu from the NoaTHSBif Stab , which was no mean weekly amount now _^ ( Tremendous cheer ' ng . ) He alluded to the motion f « r Froat , Williams , and _Jonw , and said , the numbers were Iesa than on a former ccciision , when the eame motion was submitted by Mr Duncombe . He had received a letter from Mr Duncombe , setting forth tbe necessity of taking _csre that he was net prevented on Monday from submitting bis motion . He found

    the government hai placed no order on the papers for Monday j but , however , he would take the earliest opportunity to tring it forward . ( HearJ Sir G . Grey had given notice that he would submit a motion to tbe _houee to-night to strengthen the government . He be _lieved it was for closely allying sedition with tre » son . Ue should he in his p-ace to-night to meet it . ( Cheers . ) It was our duty to ba determined , prudent , md courageous . ( Great cheering : ) There was in thia day ' s Jfornino * _Chronicle an _ivtic ' . e _sta'ing what a general officer said to Lord George Gordon , about runtime hia afford , into bis heart . Of course this was intended for him and others who stood ap in that house for the people . And in that same article they alluded to a speech of hi * delivered in tbis hall ,

    relative to the land as a means of employment , should the Charter bo obtained . _Wasittoomuohto aay that tho land would afford the people a support three times as large as that obtained per week by the weaver , who could _notoblain more than 5 _i . 6 i . per _wetk . ( Chpers ) He anticipated a stormy debate on Sir G . Grey ' _imotion to-night . He , at any rate , shou'd be found its opponent . ( Cheers . ) He had been taunted with not beins up to the murk , but thia morning , prior to coming here , he had caused a letter , signed by his owu name , to be printed , announcing bis _deterrdiation to be _prosent on Monday ; and , come what may , he would not abandon the people . ( Cheers . ) Leave of absence was then given to Mr Doyle , who had t ) proceed to _Snip ' s End and Charterville , to pay the mechanics , and labourers , & o ., engaged at

    those _piacoj . Mf Doyle assured the Convention he would bo back on Monday . Mr Ktod said , the Chartists were a quietly disposed _people , 'but when , as he knew , hundreds of thousands of able-bodied men were starving in the manufacturing districts , he wondered not that a state of great excitement prevailed , or that some strong language might he used . ( Hear , hear . ) Respecting the talking of ' carrying arms' on Monday , he could any , he had attended two large meetings , and bad heard no such statements made , and consequently no such statements responded , to , but on the oontrary , he had heard starving people say . —< - ' we will keep the . peace . ( Loud cheers . J fie knew tha Chartist feeling _bettur than Sir George Grey or any other minister . ( Loud cheers . )

    MrO ' _Consoureada letter he had . reeeiveu from a person who had boon a spy in the employ of tha government , and who had placed a _petition in his band , demanding reraunevatton for hia services . He ( Mr O'Connor ) was about to presortHhat petition . ( Hear , hear , ) Mr Ernest _Johis said , ho felt indeed proud of being a member of the _Convention . For his part ho begged ih _* j Convention to dismiss _frod thoir minds tho thought of an attack « -that proclamation waa a mere da » ice to _friuhter * _. them . _Witfe regard to strong language , he had , lately attended more meetings in _ILondun than _mwrt of those present , and tbe _language he had used and heard used was' Keep peas © and order—aiBroh back quietly—and only _detest _yonraelveS , if y 6 U 8 X 6 , attacked . ' Those words _c-r

    .... Mr Charles _M'GaRTHT said , tbat tho body h © repreawted would _attend the procession . en Monday , ' they had no iute « tion to go armed , they certainly wished peace , bnt were determined to proceed , and HMfoceed . _peaoeably . ( Cheer ? , ) Mr Fiuncw said , his constituents wished no violence to boused ., lie should gb to ihe process-ion , and if iho polico interfered allow himself to be dragged off . _.- . ' . . Mr G . W . M .. Rx * 80 WS 3 _qmJ , li _cauld tint bo said he ba d , uo _atake ia tha country from Vu _busluQ & _s , he

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    tbonKhr , paying aa he did , £ 120 per annum Vent , but he should goto the procession , but _hd should not recommend the taking of & stick or even an umbrella . Th 6 act now recalled to life , said that . •> Dly ten people cou . 'd meet to petition ; _itrnw a raoafc _unreasonable one , and had justly become almost obsolete . Mr _TVsomas C // AR 2 said , he and _hiscolleaguea of tha Executive * contended the honour of the first rank oa Monday . Be read from the CHnosiCLB of thia _raorn . ing the paragraph relative to _'Stabbing' _leaders and hoped _cheCbnven ' . ion and people would thr «? the mantle of tlwit _protectien around Mr O'Connor who so faithfully represented them in Parliament ' ( Loud cheers . ) Aad 1 that they would be prepared t & pay all due respect t _3 _* h : s exhortations , tbat peace , order , and moderation should characterise all their _prccBediflira .

    Mr Astok said , a p » stton of tbe name of Moore had pleased to put _hinvrolf in correspondence with the Daily Xdws , and assert that no such man as Mr _As-t-ni was known . Now _be-bezged to state , tbat he was elected at a duly _convened _meetiner , and that he hitd fairly represented them , Mr Moore was aa employer , and he a journeyman , henne Mr Moore would not know bim . Re _wosid be at Kennington on Monday to do his duty . ( Cheers . ) Mr _LionTowtBR said his constituents were in & starving condition ; thousands of families existing on lcs 3 than Is . 4 d . per heal , per week , and hence he was _bure ihat a change must take place , or these people would die of starvation , therefore , he dared not shrink from doing whit _hecanaidered to ba hia duty . The work of murder was now going onand

    , whatever was done , at lcest , eould only accelerate it . ( L 'iid cheers . ) Mr Wild said , it would have been far better thafe the government should have issued a proclamation declaring ihat they were preparing such measures aa would have tbe effect of filling tbe stomachs , and giving liberty to the people . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr Dixon said , this was an important era in onr proceedings ; yesterday was the day of words , this of aoti *> n , and it was our duty to state that we would not submit to illegal dictation . Sir George Grey / gave notice , that , to night , he should come down with a bill for increased powers . Why , sedition wa 3 just what they pleased to make it , and what more did they require * ( Hear . ) Mr J . A .. _Fusmju . said it was their duty to coon .

    Mr Donovan said , he did not think any discussion was required , he came here to do his doty and was determined to do it . He had received a letter from a _middle-olass man . of Manchester , stating that a _meeting of tho middle classes would be held this evening to see what waa to be done . The traders and other bodies had resolved the Charter should be the liw of the land . A meeting was to be held in Smith * field , Manchester , on Sunday next ; now that placa wa _^ _capab'ei-f holding 100000 persons , and , he had no he-nation in _jayine that it would be full . Mr _Eunest Jones asked / or liberty of _absence for Mr O Oonaor , iu vrder to enable him . to attend tiie House of Commons this afternoon . ( Granted . )

    Mr G . J . _HABNEYsaid Mr Donovan had alluded to forei gn * vi ; be could assure them that nothing but the most _profound respect prevailed in their breasts for tht rights of Englishmen , and they would refrain from attending the procession , for reasons he need not state . He wished no armed men to surround h > m-M r Shirrok fuppcited the motion . M Buckby said , they were here the represents _, ' _-iveg of the workinz people ol England , and he _beiieved that the people would hear of the proclamati « n and say , * _OiiwirJ , men of London . '

    Mr Waltee said , he was sent there to obtain the People ' * Cb » rter , and he thought it tbe _(' uty of the peop e to go forth , despite all the obstacles that might be p laced in their way ; hence be supported tbe pro . _po-ition , and would attend the _procession oa Mor . df J , Mr _cukuino supported the motion . His constituents bad themselves held meetings in despite of opposition . He would attend on Monday . Mr Tatthrsamj thought Monday would _proy © whether they should have their wishes .

    The _Chairuxn said , he agreed with Mr Cuffay that wo bad arrived at a poiat from whieh there was no retreat . We _mi'St and shall hold tbe _proeession on Monday next . If they wanted _^ an argument against class-legislation—they had it in the proclamation _iBSUfcd that _ovming . He had never recommended the going armed to that procession , and hi never would , but let the people fall into orderly procession , and then if tbey were attaoked let slip the _dosa of war . tbe blame would not be theirs , The motion wa 9 then put and carried .

    It was resolved that a Committee of three be ap * pointed to draw up tbe proolamhtion . Messrs T . M . WmsEhER , Dr _HujfxuMnd Mr Waiter , were appointed to that office . Mr G . J . Habnbt asked permission to read an article from the Times oi thi 3 day , which he described as atrocious . Having read the article , he declared it the duty ot the Convention to declare the editor of the Timbs , a base calumniator . ( Cheering . ) Mr _Rkvi-clos moved , 'That a _deputation be deg « patched to Sir G . Grey , to acquaint the _government that they _haveni _ictent'on , and never had , to make an iraed disphy on Monday . ' lie did so , being wishful to place _tso government decidedly in the wrong , and he _thought it wouid be well to go to tbe head of the government at once , and place it in their bands , Mr f . Glare _ssconded the mo _. _iwit Mr Cuffay opposed tie motion .

    Mr Cochrane said , he was aware the government ; knew tbat the _assertion made in the Tikes and else * where was false ; bot , nevertheless , it would be good policy to send the deputation . Mr Edmund Junes _supported the motion . Mr G . J . Harney , supported the motion , but wished the government tab ) informed that they had resolved to hold the procession—peacefully and legally . Motion carried . _Mcfera _Wilkinson , Reynolds , and T . Clark , wera appoint id t » toe _defutition . Mr Jobs West rose to move—That deputations be appointed to wait on tbe several members of the government io lay before th « m the awful condition of the people , ' and said , if _ihey knew the _awlul state of the people in the cotton , iron , silk , or other trades .

    which were getting worse , he thought they could not act as they now acted- Whole families bad to exist on _lei-s than-four 8 h » UinE 3 per week , and there were not _Isbs than 200 , 000 persons in three counties , of the north and midlands , out of employmeat ; and he asked , was it _surprising that in _sucha state of things , discontent and disaffection prevailed ? lie wished deputations to tell Lord John . Russell that the lives and property of tbo people should be protected , as well as thc _livrs and property of the rich . So longaa Buch a _stateof things existed all _thebullets and bayonets in the world could not put down discontent and _disaffection . Government was led astray by fa ' _se reports Mr Tremenbeere , tho government commissioner , had given in false reports . He _wlshed the government reporters to tell the goveonraenfc this . If Lord John Russell would receive them , they would bo happy to wait on him . He therefore

    moved— ' That _» _depuUliovi ba _s & _rA to _Lwd John Russell and other ministers , to lay the real grievances and state of the people before tbem . ' Mr Bolweix seconded the motion . Mr _Eniiss * Jonra moved the _following resolution * — ' That the permle of Great Britain and Ireland be _requited to hold public _mettings on Monday next , the lOch instant , for the purpose ot pledging their support to this Convention ; tbat the _resutt of such meetings be forthwith forwarded to the cbaiimanof the Convention , and that the siid meetings adjourn U Weinesday next , tho 12 th instant , to hear the report from the Convention relative to the presentation of the National Petition . ' Seconded , and carried unanimously . Mr Ernest Jones _inovtd that printed circulars te this effect be forthwith forwarded . Carried . _a The Convention th ? n adjourned . *

    Not only tbe b ody of the hall and galleries were crowded this dar , tram th *? r _. penmg hour , bnt largo crowds continued _aasemb ' ed _outride . _APTfiBNOON SITTING . Mr _HiRKGr informed the meeting that , in addition to tho truncheons which ha spoke of aa being made at Portsmouth , one man in London had got aa order for 80 , 000 staves . ( Groans . ) Mr Walter then brought up the proclamation , ia answer to the police : — THE _NATIONAL _COMVBNTION TO THE _ISBABITABTS 0 _» XONDOK .

    Fellow Men—We > tho members of the National Convention , now assembled At the Scientific Institution , Johnstreet , Fitzroy-s _^ uare , composed oft delegates from all parts of Great _Britain , having seen a proclamation Issued by the Commissioners of Police , _sfcvjjng that the procession advBvtisodi to _tako nlaco on tha pith of Apriliacon-. trary to a . _tstnUte passed in tho arbitrary reign of Cbnrle * II ., believe that » uch proclamation is an infringement of the right of _petition and _pul . llu meetings , end hereby da . clare their f & m determinutios . to . hold such meeting aad _procession _^ and call upon th ** _Inhabitants of Loudon to assist by theii * presence in v _^ _dicatog our mutual rights . Wo have also observed with indignation tho statemoata *

    thc Truss and other papains , tha * we were organising a yhyeAcai outbreak , with , the iutention of cemmemsfig war .. gains * life twd proper _^ . ' Wo throw back the lmgatatioa with seora upon it * malignant and ill-advised proclairaers , apd assert In the most positivo trrm » Wat we _haise no intention ot breaking tlie law j that _«» _procesb \ o » will be an warmed * ifloval dcmoustratloa ; that wa respect lite and property hut are equally _determined te have our _% « _v » lives aud property _veepec-VlA _, and in th «> . event of our _iieinj ; uujttftly attached , r _.-ecait upon you anc _\ the _cpnntr _Renerally t *» throw , & vou . ud , v _» _Vha mantle , _ofi yourprotection . _Friday , April 7 , ISIS . _iSlgned bj _sJHhe Delega . \ _sa . _\ ( Contmwd lo our fifth _vagt . )

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• Citation
  • Northern Star (1837-1852), April 8, 1848, page 8, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns4_08041848/page/8/