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POST OFFICE _ESPIONAGE . GREAT PUBLIC MEETING OF THE ELECTORS AND INHABITANTS OF FINSBURY . On Wednesday night last , a meeting of the elec-Uns and inhabitants of the borough of Finsbury convened by requisition , was held at the \\ nite Conduit House Tavern , Pentouville , relative to tne opening of letters at the Post _^ ftee , addressed to Mr . T . S . Duncombe , the representative of the borough . The spacious hall was densely crowded On thl platform were T . Wakley , fcsq . M . l „ Sir C 'Namer M P and R , J- Blewitt , Esq ., M . P ., _snVportedbva _' _kke number of influential electors _ofSl shades of pontics . Richard Taylor , Esq common councilman ofthe City of London , was called to the chair _i _t ? t
. _.,,,.-, _r . r - _. The _Chuiuiax said that the borough of Finsbury had done itself great credit by the choice of its present representatives ; they were both gentlemen of ~ < _rreai _abillfj * , perseverance , and courage . Li proportion as a public man was courageous he became an object of suspicion to the Government . The power of opening letters in the Post-office might be a most dangerous weapon in the hands of a tyrannical Government . He ( Mr . Taylor ) recollected that during the time of the Sidmouth Administration , when it-was deemed necessary to get up sham p lots , tlie lettere of Mr . Coke , of Norfolk , the late Earl of Leicester , were opened in order to o btain materials on whieh to ground a charge against him of hostility tothe _Govei-nnient- of the day . Hut sueh conduct
would be tolerated no longer , for tlie people would not submit to such a monstrous violation of that confidence which ought to subsist between the members and their constituents . The electors of Finsbnrj ; were bound to call upon xhe Government io wipe olr tile stigma which it had aitemnted to east on tlie character of Mr . Duncombe . If they did not , they would be unworthy of ihat reputation for pubhc spirit whieh tliev had hitherto maintained . Mr . LixTOxhi _' moving tlie first resolution , observed that three d ' _lTStincfechai _^ cs had been made against the Government—one was , that lettere had been illegally opened and detained at the Post-office ; the next , toconceal that
that seals had been counterfeited _^ examination -and the third was , that it had been done to serve the interests of certain despotic Governments . Mr . Dimeonibe had called for explanation , but- he had obtained no answer . By Sir J . Graham he was metwiihdo £ ged silence ; by Lord Aberdeen with subterfuge and false assertions ; aud by Sir R . Peel with shuffling and evasion . The only answer given to Mi * . Duncombe was coniained in the reports of two committees whieh did not agree with each other . Mr . Duncombe ' s character had been most foully stigmatised , and it was the duty of his constituents to demand a full vindication from the Government . The resolution was as follows : —
That this meeting learns with mortification and disgust that there exists at the General Post-office a secret spy system under which letters are hroken open , seals counterfeited , and pest-marks _falsely imposed , in order to deceive the persons to -wliom such letters are directed * , and to whom they are afterwards forwarded , while tlie information thus obtained has in some cases heen used to promote despotic interests of foreign Governments ; that this meeting _strongly _denounces the existence of such disgraceful tram-action ? , and , refusing to be satisfied wiih the report of the eoiawittec published at the close of ihe last session , deems it essentially necessary for the honour of tins country , and also for public satisfaction and secur ity , that a strict , searching , and open inquiry should be instituted into all the circumstances referred to in certain petitions presented to Parliament on this subject , in order that by such inquiry the manner in which such illegal and unconstitutional practices have been carried on , may be clearly exposed andhrought to public shame .
Mr . Hodckix seconded the motion . The question was between Sir J . Graham and ilr . Duneombe , the one a renegade to his former party , the latter a straight-forward gentleman who had stood fast by his principles , and was at all times the zealous and independent advocate of popular rights . The motion was earned by acclamation . Mr , Walker moved the next resolution : — That this meeting have read with indignation the statemeat made hy iwr representative , 3 Ir . Thomas Buncombe , in his place in Parliament , that hi = correspondence has heen clandestinely intercepted and secretly
opened , tinder _Government authority , at the Post-office : thatin the opinion pf this meeting the only excuse forthe exercise of such power towards Mr . Duncombe , would be -that the Gorerament had good reason to deem Mm capable of conduct which , if true , would , in our opinion , render bim totally unfit to continue the representative of a free and independent constituency ; that we , therefore , _feelit _dne to ourselves , as wen as to ilr . Duncombe , to demand from the House of Commons such an investigation into the proceedings towards him as shall either -justify the implied suspicions of the Government , or fully establish the innocence of our long- tried and _faithfulrepresen-¦ tative _. *
The Secretary thep read the following letter from Mr . Duncombe : — Tothe Sectors of _Tinsi / _vrv la _Fsbl' ic _JItetmy assembled . 9 v . r _» tlemcn . —1 have the honour to aehnowlcdgo the re-? ta * _t of _jc-ur letter of invitation , and to express to you my " •¦ - « . > --. - ;' . at _Mctnt events in . Parliament have rendered it imps _; ,-rive on the borough of Finsbury to meet on my a ? --c-c . it—the Suit , _lioweser , rests not with me , "but . with her l £ ajcsty * s Ministers . 1 need not now assure you how happy I am , at all times , to meet those whom it is my pride to represent , when questions affecting public interests are nuder their consideration , as upon such occasions you trill do me the j _* cstice to admit I have never shrunk from doing that which 1 felt to be my duty .
' Ent , gcnt _' einen , the question which you are convened ¦ to discuss appears to me to he of so peculiar and of so purely a personal character , that I think it woidd be most indelicate on my part to be present upon the occasion . In declining ; however , tlie honour that you have proposed to me , I hope I may be permitted to state that all tliat I 3 have asked ofthe House of Commons is tliat wliich I thin ; - Ihave a right to demand , viz ., an opportunity of removing those hiss suspicions implied by the fact of the Government having violated the sanctity of my corresixmileuce . The expression of your independent opinion , 1 hope , will assist me in obtaining that satisfaction without -jifcicb , 1 am convinced , yon will agree with me , I cannot continue a member of the present House of Commons trfth either advantage to you or credit to myself . I have tlie honour to be , gentlemen , Tour obedient and faithful servant , _-Albanv , Feb . 2 a . Thosus S . Dcxcombe .
The reading of this letter _produced vehement cheering . Mr . George Rogers said , he had often addressed them on the _mal-practice 9 of both "Whigs and Tories ; but never did he feel so indignant as on the present occasion . He had often thought and said the House of Commons was grossly immoral , and that its members should be sent about their business , that we might hare the chance of selecting better men . ( Hiar hear . ) But never before did he flunk them so immeasurably base ( hear , hear ) as they had now proved themselves by their sanction of the petty larceny
villauies ofthe Home Secretary . ( Tremendous cheering . ) The electors of this borough had a duty to perform ; Finsbury was at the head of the democratic tree , ( loud cheers ) , and that position must be maintained . He took upon himself to say that no other 658 men , except inthe lowest refuse of society , would have refused Mr . Duncombe's just request ! ( Great cheering . ) Mr . Dnneombe was a high-spirited and faithful champion of the people , and in justice to him and themselves , they were bound to obtain such an Inquiry as would either acquit Mr . Duncombe , or place them in a position to obtain another representative . ( Cheers . )
_SirCiunxEs 2 » a _* piEK came forward to support the resolution and in presenting himself was received with loud cheers . He said that whatever excuse might exist as to opening the letters of foreigners suspected of plotting against their country , the Government had no right to violate the sanctity ot correspondence between a representative of the people and his constituents . Mr . Duncombe had put to Sir James Graham a plain ample question— " Did you open my letters , or did you not V He could get no answer . The matter was referred to two committees , bnt tiie reports were silent with respect to Mr .
Duncombe ; upon that part ofthe case they made no report whatever . The question for the electors of _PinBbmry to decide was this—he had been suspected of carrying on a treasonable correspondence with some persons in this -country . Was Mr . Duncombe capable of high treason ? ( Cheers , and cries of No , no . ) Well , then , you must believe either that Mr . Bunoombe was plotting against the Government , or that Sir J . Graham was plotting against Mr . Duncombe . Under these circumstances tho electors of Finsbury had done right to demaud a fidl inquiry into the - subject .
The resolution was carried unanimously . Mr . Cooper moved the third resolution as _foll ows : — Tbzt a _pstiaon , _erabcdyiag the _Jorcgoln-J resolutions , and praying the House of Commons to adopt such measures aB will effectually prevent the recurrence of the abases complained oi ; be signed on behalf of this meeting try the chairman and tie committee , and presented hy T . -VfaWey , Esq ., our worthy representative . Dr . Epps , in an eloquent speech , seconded the resolution , which was earned unanimously . The secretary then read the petition , which was an echo ofthe resolutions , and moved its adoption . It . i . _BtEwnr , M . P ., seconded the motion , and said he attended there to tcstifv liis lifcli admiration
and esteem for the man they had chosen to represent them ; and his great detestation of the spy system adopted by the Home Secretary . His own opinion waB , that Mr . Duncombe ' s letters had been opened without a warrant . The petition tliey were about to adopt -should have his most cordial support , and further , so long as a motion could be formed , and so long as Sir James Graham remained obstinate , so _longwould he support Mr . Duncombe . ( Loud cheere . ) ¦ " - _^ 'he-petition was unanimously adopted . Mr . WarieyI M . V ., r . ovc rose amidst _sjravt _appk-us _* , _w-f suit they had ahoitc-d him a . duty _whir-h he _shouldpiriorm with great _plf-wirc , and " he honed lo their saustactinn . lie stood ih _.-w in the double capacity ot a « khen elector of FimSrary to ' DTOt > st
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against the disgraceful spy system , and aBa representative to obey his constituents' commands . Thomas Slingsby Duncombe was as bold , as honest , as faithful a representative of the people as could possibly be found or conceived of : —( loud cheers)—a man who never dissembled—in whom there was no deception . When Mr . Duncombe first mooted the question , some _ofthe'Hon . Gentlemen turned np their very aristocratic noses , and said pooh , pooh . But that answer would not do for Mr . Duncombe . Well , at length a committee was appointed , but Mr . Duncombe was not allowed to be on it . No , he knew too much about it , and was too independent to report in favour of the Government , ( Cheers . ) Well , the committee got so deep in the love of
antiquity that one of its members well nigh lost himself . ( Loud laughter . ) it was said that men in Parliament were " so virtuous , and so moral , ( laughter , ) that a declaration made there , was deemed better than an oath out of it . " Wefl , Mr . Duncombe made the declaration that his letters had been opened , and of course the charge was investigated by the Committee . No such thing . He had turned the folios of the report over and over , very carefully , and bethought he had lost his eye-sight , for not a word did he find in that report relative to his Hon . Colleague . The report was unsatisfactory to Mr . Duncombe ( an extraordinary man he would have been if it had not ) . The electors of Pinsbury had done themselves immortal honour by
meeting as they had done that evening to defend their representative . If it had been a little girl , or an old maid , with an exuberance of curiosity that had been prying into their letters , it might have been excused , but- a Government controiing the destinies of millions being guilty of such baseness , was disgusting and abhorrent . ( Loud cheers . ) Mr . Wakley , in the course of his speech , illustrated his argument by a reference to the case of the expatriated patriot , " John Frost , at the mention of whose name , the meeting rose en masse , and cheered and cheered again ; and , continued the Hon . Member , I contended then , and have always contended , that , had justice been done , that much injured man and his compatriots would have been instantly liberated . ( Renewed cheering . ) But , returning tothe immediate ease of Mr . Duncombe , his colleague said to Sir J . Graham , "You opened my letters . " The only answer he gets is : " What Ihave done , I have done
on mv own responsibility . " _J « ow he ( Mr . Wakley ) , should like to know how to make the Home Secretary really responsible . ( Hear , hear . ) The insinuation conveyed by opening the lettere of his Hon . Colleague was a serious imputation on his character ; and in justice to Mr . Duncombe ' sconstituents Sir James Graham ought to have stated the fact ? . That Government was ft base one who employed Spies , but now we had a Government who were themselves Spies . ( Cheers ) . Mr . Duncombe in his letter read that evening , had intimated that unless an inquiry- was granted whereby he might clear himself of the imputation cast on his character he must resign his seat ; ( loud shouts of no , no , no ) , that was the purport of the note . But should that be the case , it would be their pleasing duty to send him back again . ( Loud cheering ) . Mr . Wakley concluded by saying that he should present the petition , and would do all in liis power to give effect to their views . The Hon . Gentleman resumed his
seat amid loud and long-continued cheers . Mi ' . Elt moved a vote of thanks to the chairman , which was seconded by Mr . William Balls , and carried by acclamation . Three cheers were then given for Mr . Duncombe ; three cheers for Mr . Wakley , and three groans for Sir James Graham ; and this great and unanimous meeting dispersed .
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LORD DEVON'S COMMISSION . The peculiar and delicate circumstances connected with the above commission led us to anticipate a very _different document than the report with which the country has been favoured . The constitution of the tribunal was calculated to inspire us with jealousy and suspicion ; while the objects to which attention should be directed were likely to be altogether merged in the necessity of vindicating that class to which the commissioners belonged' fi-om the accumulated load of odium tha ttime and neglect have heaped upon their backs . Independently of these particular objections we had the more general feeling of contempt , arising from the fact , that all inquiries into the condition of the poorer classes have been confined to th «
very parties of whose misdeeds they have complained . Under these circumstances , while we were prepared for the very natural vindication of the landlords of Ireland , wc confess that their true picture presented in every line of the report has taken ns by surprise . Before wc offer a passing comment on the several heads under which the commissioners have presented their report , we may lie permitted to observe that the wholesale apology offered for the Irish landlords comports most strangely with the extensive representation of the people ' s sufferings . After
commenting npon the reports of a select committee or two , the commissioners , Beginning at the wrong end , with a holy reverence for their order , state as follows : — " Upon a review of the whole subject we feel bound to express our opinion , that there has been much of exaggeration and mis-statement in the sweeping charges which have been directed against the Irish landlords . " With great respect for the commission , we are of opinion that the apology should have followed / . rather than have preceded , the "sweeping charges " established by the report against the Irish andlords .
Now let ns comparethe following description of the condition of the people with the foregoing glowing apology : — "We regret , however , to be obliged to add , in most parts of Ireland there seems to be by no means a corresponding advance in the condition and comforts of the labouring classes . A reference to the evidence of most of the witnesses will show that the agricultural labourer of Ireland continues to suffer the greatest privations and hardships ; that he continues to depend upon casual and precarious employment for subsistence ; that he is still badly housed , badly fed , badly clothed , and badly paid for his labour . Our _pei-sonal experience and observations during our inquiry have afforded us a melancholy confirmation of these statements ; and we cannot forbear expressing our strong sense ofthe patient endurance which the labouring classes have generally exhibited under sufferings , _greate--, we believe , than the people of any other country in Europe have
to sustain . Again , under the head "Labourers" we find the following extracts ;—In adverting to the condition of the different classes of occupiers in lrelaud , we noticed , with deep regret , the state of the cottiers and labourers in most paits of the country , from * the want of certain employment . It-would be impossible to describe adequately the privations which they and their families habitually and patiently endure . It will be seen in the evidence that in many districts their only food is the potato , their only beverage water , that their cabins are seldom a protection against the weather , that a bed or a blanket is a rare luxury , and that n _» arly in all , their pig and manure heap constitute their only property .
Wheu we consider this state of tilings , and the large proportion of the population which comes under the designation of agricultural labourers , we have to repeat that the patient endurance which they exhibit is deserving of high commendation , and entitles them to the best attention of Government and of Parliament . Their condition has engaged our most anxious consideration . Up to this period any improvement that mayhave taken place is attributable almost entirely to the habits of temperance in which they have so generally persevered , and not , we grieve to say , to any increased demand for their labour . We deeply deplore the- difficulty whieh exists in suggesting any direct means for ameliorating tbeir condition .
Here again we find a repetition of the sufferings of the poor which cannot be ascribed to the mis-statements or exaggerations of the commissioners ; and then we very naturally inquire as to the source from whence those grievances spring , whether from laws made by landlords , or _fi-oin the illegal and uncivilised practices of those gentlemen . Upon this subject the report shall speak for itself , and from which we select the following unequivocal condemnation of the landlords of Ireland . The report says—In common with the committee of 1832 , whose language we have quoted , we feel the impossibility of providing any direct remedy by _le-ral enactment for the suffering described hi the _' preeeding extracts .
The evil arises from the _abuM <> f a right , of which tlie existence _ie essential to the maintenance of property ; but although we cannot recommend any interference by law with tiie right , it dues not follow that we should hesitate to expose the abuse , or to point out the means which , iu our opinion , may and ought to fce adopted to mitigate the evils resul & _ia from it .
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Now then , taking the above extracts as a fair representation of the sufferings of one class , and the conduct of . the other class , what do we discover ? Why , that even the increased morality of the people arising from increased temperance , has not in the slightest degree tended towards their improvement : and this " arises from the abuse op a hight , _' ' the existence of which _** ' is essential to the _MAISTENANCE OF PROPERTY * _, " an " abUSC , " _lUOl'eover , for tlie correction of which the commissioners cannot suggest ov recommend any legal remedy . Are we not entitled to ask to what end , then , all this fuss and bother I when wc discover
that the existence of these / ' abuses" are essential to the maintenance of property . Suppose we say that the abuse " arises" from the middle system—from t he clearance system—from bad tenure—want of improvements—consolidation of flirms—recovery of rent —agency—sale of estates—want of agricultural instruction—imperfect system of emigration—want of cultivation of waste lands—total dependence of the labourers : the several heads under which the commission has reported ; anil will the commissioners inform us over which of these the landlords have not a power—the abuse of which has led to the necessity of this very commission , unwilling to suggest legal remedies for the abuses existing ?
Before we offer a few suggestions on this report , wc shall first state our preference for it over all documents of a similar nature that have been laid before the House of Commons . Wc should attach but very trifling importance to the report in question , if placed in the hands of a jobbing Whig Ministry , well knowing that it would be dismissed with a becoming lamentation for the grievances complained of , and a regret of the inapplicability of legal enactments for their correction—a tear for the sufferers , and a respect for the recommendations of the commissioners . Our trust , however , is , as wc before intimated , that Sir Robert Peel will see in this report sueh a justification—nay , demand—for interference , as will enable him to base the right of Irish property upon some better title than the existence of an acknowledged " abuse . "
Those readers who have learned the state of Ireland from tho Northern Star arc already in possession of every single grievance set forth in the report ; while the corrections proposed are similar iu character to what we have so frequently recommended ; and the result produced by the present system is precisely what we have oftentimes stated it to be . Uncertainty of tenure we have described as the greatest evil against which Irish farmers have to contend : and , -curious enough , the _reportmakes a striking difference between want of tenure and uncertainty of tenure . We shall select a few extracts .
xtmvx . Underfills head we find the following observations—It frequently happens that large estates in that country are held by the proprietors in _strvit limitation ; and the pecuniary ch'cumstances of the landed proprietors generally , arising in some cases out of family charges , and resulting in others from improvidence or carelessness possibly of former proprietors , disable many , even of the best disposed landlords , from improving their property , or encouraging improvement amongst their tenantry , in the manner which iMuhi conduce at once to their own interest a > id the _pttblte advantage Many ef the evils incident to the occupation of land in Ireland maybe attributed to this cause . Here we have an " abuse" of great magnitude , an hereditary " abuse , " and lot us sec the legal remedy proposed by the commissioners . The report goes on
thus : — . \ fe are of opinion that , for the permanent improvement of an estate—confining that expression to sueh operations as may properly be considered of an agricultural character— tenants for life , and other persons under legal disability , should be empowered , subject to proper and efficient restrictions , to charge the inheritance , to an amount not exceeding three years' income , for such improvements , being bound to repay the principal by instalments , and to keep down the interest . This is no new principle . Again : —
It must never be forgotten that an improved cultivation , with the consequent increase of produce from the soil , and of comfort to the occupier , are not matters of private or individual interest only , but are intimately connected with the preservation of public tranquillity and the general prosperity of the whole empire . Again : — We also think it would be desirable that extended leasing powers should be given , under proper and equitable restrictions , to tenants foi- life , and to boards or corporations whose powers are restricted by law , such as incumbents as to their glebe lands , the Provost and Fellows of Trinity CoUege , tho Trustees of Erasmus Smith , the Board of Education , and the Trustees of Sir T . Dunue ' s and Wilson ' s Hospitals . Again : —
Looking generally through Ireland , we believe tliat the larger proportion ofthe land is occupied by tcnants-at-will There has been of late years , from various causes , an indisposition in many landlords to grant leases ; and it appears from , the evidence that in some cases , where the landlord is willing , the tenants decline to take them out , influenced , to a certain degree , by the high stamp duty . Again : — The uncertainty of tenure is , however , ' constantly ' referred to as a pressing grievance by all classes of tenants . It is said to paralyze all exertion , and to place a fatal impediment in the way of improvement . '
Irom the above extracts we learn that the uncertainty of tenure places the public tranquillity in jeopardy , paralyses national indnstiy , and limits tliat supply of produce which would otherwise vender lis independent of all foreign aid : and yet the present "abuse" is to be allowed to remain for the maintenance of the existing rights of landlords . ' It is somewhat refreshing , however , thatin the recommendation of tlie commissioners to give extended rights to tenants at will , we recognise a side-blow at the law of primogeniture , the master evil under which the country suffers ; a blow which wc trust will be followed up by the total destruction ofthe system . In speaking of tenure , wc may safely aver that certainty of tenurethat is , a lease for ever at a corn rent , would render all minor considerations unimportant .
Improvements would then go on ; farm-houses would then be built by the tenants , * the increased value , of land consequent upon the application of increased labour would lead to the destruction of the consolidation system ; the recovery of rent would be a thing achieved without distress or ejectment ; agency could be effected without trouble ; the sale of estates-woulA be of move daily occurrence in consequence of the improved price offered for them by small holders ; agricultural instruction would become a necessary ingredient in national education ; emigration would to a thing not thought of ; waste lands would be improved as if by magic ; the labourers'condition would keep pace witli that improvement ; county cess would be a burden easily borne ; agrarian outrages would cease , and the occupation of the Commissioners of Public Works would be gone .
The Condition-of-Ireknd question being * involved in the recent inquiry , we prefer waiting for the appendix , whereby we shall be put in possession ofthe evidence of 1 , 100 witnesses , we presume of different classes , to offering a conclusive opinion on the mere skeleton with which wo bave been furnished by the commissioners : therefore , for the present , we shall content ourselves with directing attention to such extracts as we have selected and arranged under then respective heads , which full y confirm that faithful view that we have ever taken of this monster question . May we venture a hope that parties of all shades of polities will join in _rescuing the Irish people from that state of _degi-adation , wretchedness _^ and poverty to which the noii-perfonnance ofthe duties of theiv natural protectors has brought thom ?
It is a subject to the consideration of which we shall bring our minds without anger or exasperation , in the hope that suggestions and comments may have the greater weight on thos e who will be called on to legislate upon tlie subject . It is impossible , however , to review the whole _queston without feelings of the most intense anxiety and doubt—anxiety for the sufferers ; and doubt lest landlords and _Alaltiiuaians should unite for the maintenance of '' abii 3 es"loiig cherished by the one party as the means of
maintaining existing rights ; and profitable to the other for the dependency that it entails . In another part of . our paper will be found selections from the different heads under whieh tlie report is presented , and to them we beg to direct the especial attention of the reader—especially to that portion which gives the preference to spade husbandry , and declares the growing desire for agricultural instruction . It 18 tQ the time at which this report is presented , and to the resolution of the Prime . Minister , rather than to its contents , that we attach importance .
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THE LEGALITY OF LETTER-OPENING . The revelations made by Mr . Duxcombe , of the infamies ofthe Post-office , are likely to lead to afar different result to that anticipated by the Government , when the subject was first mooted . The position of " supercilious silence , " at first assumed by the Home Secretary , was evidently dictated by a feeling tliat " the House" would extend the mantle of shelter over the Executive , and screen the officials in the performance of what is termed '' an odious but necessary duty . " In this , however , the Whig renegade " reckoned withouthis host "; forthefact was , that nine-tenths of " the House" itself were una ware of the existence even of
such an " odious power ; " and the natural surprise and indignation felt at the exposure made by Mr . _Dcscojinr . hurried Hon , Members into a course of procedure which drove the Government from its original intention of setting Mr . Diwcombb and public feeling at defiance . Sir James Graham had to come down from the highpereh of " official responsibility" on to the ground of " inquiry ; " and though he aiid his comrogucs managed that the inquiry should be a secret one , yet the granting of even that much was a virtual defeat—a defeat that is sure to lead ultimately to the entire suppression of tlie " odious" practice . s >
The inquiry that Sir James Graham was thus obliged to concede to the wounded feeling of "the House , " was not the only one that has resulted from Mr . _Duncomw- _' s labours . The facts tliat he lias detailed before tbe face of the country have set tho " gentlemen ofthe long robe" at work : and their " inquiries" arc somewhat different in nature to those whieh engaged the attention of * the secret committee-men . They heard it alleged and admitted that the practice had existed for a long period of time ; and that it had been in extensive use .
Their attention , therefore , has been directed to the ascertaining ofthe AUTHORITY for the practice ; _rlietlier there is any legal right for the Home Minister to stop , detain , or open letters ; whether he can legally issue a warrant for any such purpose ; or whether it is not a practice that has existed without authority , and been persevered in to our own times , because unquestioned : and it is more than likely that the inquiries of these gentlemen will lead to the q . mti < ming of tlio assumed power before the Judges op Law and dispensers of Justice .
In the course of the debate on Friday night last Mr . W , H .. W . VT 80 S , Member for Kinsale , said * . — When the question was first agitated , he ( Mr . Watson ) called upon the Government to say on what law they rested their claim to search letters passing through the Post-office , they being the carriers of those letters ; but he received no information upon the subject . The Right Hon . Gentleman , the Home Secretary , referred io the statute of Queen Anne and that of her present Majesty : but , according - to the report of the Lords' Committee , the Secretary of State could not from this source make out that he derived any right upon the subject . The latter statute he ( Mr . Watson ) had beforo him , and the Act ( 1 Victoria , c . 30 ) merely stated , that whoever should open or wilfully detain a letter in the Post-ofhYe should be Kuiltv of a misdemeanour , adi'mg a proviso that this
should not extend to the opening or detaining a letter in obedience to a warrant from the Secretary of State . But , according to tlie Lords' report , the right of the Secretary of State to issue sueh a warrant depended entirely upon the common law , and there was no right whatever given by thi 6 statute . Now , he ( Mr . Watson ) had taken ' some pahis to examine the authorities , and look into the law upon thesubject , but he could find no authority in any law-book whatever for the right ofa Secretary of State to open a letter at the Post-office ; in no text-book , and in no reports whatever , could he discover anything of the sort . What was the rig ht claimed and exercised ? It was not merely to seize and detain letters , but to open those letters , seal them up again , and then send them on to the . pai'ties ; not to take the bold measure of seizing and keeping an individual ' s papers for public
reasons , but to read his letters and take copies of them , and copies of the seals , in their passage to him . ( Hear . ) Tliis was a great constitutional question . ( Cheers . ) To talk of investigating the subject without inquiring into the law under which they lived was really entering into no inquiry at all , the subject beiHg the right of the Secretary of State by law to examine in the Post-office the letters of the public at large , and letters addressed to Members of the House . Ho ( Mr . Watson ) said that there was no such right ; and thatwas a question which must ultimately be determined . ( Hear , hear . ) The Hon . Member for Bute ( Hie Hon . James Stuart Wortley ) had been pleased to ask on the previous night why was not information laid before the House , and evidence adduced , by those who complained ? Why , where was the evidence to be obtained ? What letters had heen opened was known only to the
Scoretary of State and his subordinates . How could evidence be produced by the Hon . Member for Finsbury , except that he had heard certain things , and thought them probable and believed them ? The Government and its subordinates alone had tlie information . . ( Hear , hear . ) His Hon . Friend the Member for Weymouth ( Mr . G . W . Hope ) had said that this question ought not to be discussed in the House , but in the Queen ' s Bench , or in some other court ; and some other Hon . Members appeared to hold the same view . lie ( Mr . Watson ) must state , in the face of the House , that if the inquiry did not take place in Parliament it could take place no-where . How could it take place in the Queen ' s Bench ? Howeoulditbeprovedthatletters had been opened ? Were the subordinates of the Post-office to be called 1 No one could prove the fact ; the mouth of the Secretary of State himself' was closed . According to the decision
of Lord Tcntevdcn , no officer could be examined m matters relating to the public affairs . How , then , was any individual to go into a court of law to try the question of right ? ( Hear , _heai-J ) It was possible , if the Government would admit what letters were opened , hut not otherwise ; aud if they really desired to have the question determined , they had only to avow that a particular officer opened a letter belonging to the Hon . Member for Finsbury , and let him take proceedings at law against that person , and then j- stify under tliis pretended right . { Hear , hear . ) But until he ( Mr , ITateon ) heard some _authority cited , ho would maintain that the whole system of opening letters at the rost-oifico was illegal . ( Hear , hear . ) This subject was very closely connected with what was at one time a ' great constitutional question—the right of tlie Secretary of State to issue General Warrants to seize papers : and these ,
which were declared to be illegal in the case of Wilkes , had existed in the time of Elizabeth , in the period of the Commonwealth , and under the second Charles , and from the revolution downwards . That claim was very analogous to the present . ( Hear , hear . ) There were two cases to which he would ' particularly call the attention ofthe House . One was the case of the editor and printer of the North Briton . The Secretary of State issued a warrant to seize all his papers ; the validity of that warrant was tried , and the jury gave very large damages against the persons concerned in issuing the warrant . And what did the Chief Justice- say upon that Occasion ? He spoke as follows : — " A will-rant was granted by Lord Halifax , the Secretary of State , directing a messenger to apprehend aiid seize the printer and publisher of a paper called the North Briton , without any information or charge
laid beforo the Secretary of State previous to his granting tho warrant ; " whereas every lawyer knew that no warrant to arrest a person and examine his house was good without information duly laid , and the warrant itself stating the offence upon the face of it . " The Chief Justice then proceeded to state that the small injury done to the plaintiff ; or the iucon-Biderableness of his station , were not material to the question of right ; of course the same arbitrary power could have been claimed over all the King ' s subjects , violating Magna Charta , and destroying the liberties of the people . The King ' s counsel of that day and the solicitor of the Treasury endeavoured to maintain the legality of that warrant ; but his lordship said , — " To enter a liouse by a nameless warrant , in order to seize there , is worse tliau the Spanish Inquisition . " That was not the speech of a
political partisan in that house , or on the hustings , but the judicial opinion of a * Chief Justice . And he added , — " It woum be a law _unilcr which no Englishman would wish to live an hour . It was a most during public attack made upon the liberty of the subject . " ( Cheers . ) IteaUy there seemed to be very little difference between issuing a warrant to seize the papers of "the editor and printer of the North Briton" and issuing a warrant to examine , read , and copy letters . ( Hear . ) But ' Mr . Entick ' s case in the State Trials , vol . 19 , came still nearer to the present . A special verdict was found iu that case , in reference to the warrant issued against Mr . Entiek , and the ease was very elaborately argued ; tho judgment of the Chief Justice affected the present case considerably . His lordship was pressed by a variety of arguments , and amom ? others hy this , that it had been a . usage continued for a
long period . " It began at the Revolution , " said his lordship , " and is too modern to be law . The common law docs not begin with the _Involution . " " The warrant , " he added , " was an execution in the first instance , without previous information , or hearing of the plaintiff—a power claimed by no other magistrate whatsoever , Chief Justice Scroggs excepted . " ( Cheers . ) " It was argued that if the Secretary of State had power to commit iu treason , he hath it in lesser crimes . This I deny . " Justice Hokeby said : " He is only a conservator of the peace . There is no law , and less justice , to justify the defendants in what they have done * , if there was it would destroy all comfort in society , for papers are often the dearest property that a man can have . " ( Cheers . ) If such a right-as was claimed in tliis case really existed , to examine and copy letters passing through the Post-office , would not some instance of it , in some period , be found in the law books *? It was impossible to suppose that it was law if it could be found sanctioned by no authority . ( Hear , hear . ) There was nothing but the from the _Involution
practice ; and what was the value of tliat 1 It was only a continuance of illegal acts it was only so many Secretaries of State , from year to year , issuing warrants which were illegal ; and a continuance of illegal acts would not constitute a legal right . In Money ' s ease , the argument from usage ivas urged in vain . In reference to General Warrants , Mr . Justice Yates said- " If you shew me a usage from the foundation of Kome , it will not legalise sueh a practice as this " ( Hear , hear . ) A usage from the creation of the world for Seeretane _g ot State to open letters in the Post-office would not make the practice legal . ( Cheers . ) And what sort of warrants were these ? Warrants must be founded on information , aud the _offww , svatai mi the face of them Where was the information ? How did the Secretarv of State take it ? Was be able to adinuilstw « _xx oath to ? £ 1 _If _i / _2 _?/ i , he _- V s tn , e tIu _? weve ¦ _'Cfen-eil to in those Acts of Parliament ; but was it intended by the Acts to confer . upon the Secretary of State the _ri-Ii ' t to issue tliem ? Certainly , wt . They meraW _^ _K S ™
oii . ee authont es trom penalties in acting under his warrants to detain letter ., , hut conferred no right tor " , letters-though the former was nearh- as bad as the Hn ' v ( Ilea ,-, hear . ) Upon a great _question like _i _, t _fwatof the deepest importance to the country to know _whatw-u the Htnte . tff Uic law ; nnd hoinvited the \ ZLIZ „ lrd to state , m tlie face of the . iU « Sft _, mUi the _£ _ratrV _™ Vx _£ what authority aud what grounds of law lio iiistiJio » l H , n Secretary of- State in examining letters t the _"t- _JiiJe it was notof the sli ghtest avail to refer i . _» _uw _£ _" . for if there was really no legal authority for the practW n , " thing was utterl y and entirely illegal . ( Cheers . ) '
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Here , then , the whole practice is calleil in question ; and called in question , too , in a manner that must secure for the practice a legal answer , if it is to be preserved . The reasoning of Mr . Watson seems to us to be exceedingly strong . The point he puts , as to the inability of tlio Secretary of State to administer an oath , and consequently to receive an information on which to ground a warrant , and the consequent inability to issue such wan-ant , seems to us to be conclusive . If tlie reasoning of Mr . Watson be sound , it turns out that the practice , though so long in vogue , and so extensively used , is utterly and entirely illegal ! To us such seems to be the only conclusion to which the legal gentlemen can come ; unless , indeed , a far better answer can be given to Mr . Watson than the Somcitob-Genebal vouchsafed on Friday night last . Tlie reader wiE have seen that Mr . Watson * "invited" the _SowciroR-GE-vKiui ,
to the contest ; and having been so hardly pressed "in the face of tlie House and the country , " he could not but attempt to reply , which he did in manner following : — The Hon . and Learned -Member lor Khisale said this warlike the case of general warrants , and his Hon . and Learned Friend had carefully searched the authorities , and come down armed witli the opinions of judges on the question of general warrants ; and he said those opinions wove conclusive , and that this kind of warrant can no more stand good than general warrants . Did his Hon . and Learned Friend know the history of general warrants 1 He ( the Solicitor-general ) thought not ; for if liis Hon . and Learned Friend had known that' history , he would have felt bound to tell the liouse that general warrants existed
by Act of Parliament till the _vcarlliOl ; tliat in 1694 the Act , on which their legality was ' t ' oimded , expired , and that consequently after that year there was no statute to empower tlie Secretaries of State to issue them ; but that . nevertheless , they were issued by successive Secretaries of State , till the year 1703 , when in ' the case which the industry of his Hon . and Learned Friend had discovered general warrants were pronounced illegal . This was an instance how easy it was for an ingenious lawyer to produce the opinion ol * judges , and declare confidently what was the law , so as to persuade the House that he had made out a triumphant case . His Hon . and Learned Friend said , that tlie committee of the House of Lords had stated , in their report , that this power was not conferred by any statute . It certainly was so stated in that report ; but that was not all
that was ' _said . ( Hear . ) His Hon . and Learned Friend selected a passage from the report , and read that , and omitted the reasoning on which it was founded . It was true thatthe report said that the act of Anne gave no power to the Secretary of State to detain or open letters , but if his Hon . and Learned Friend had looked to the two lines before that passage , he would have found tliis statemeat . —" ' ' The terms on whieh the provisions of the 9 th Anne , cap . 10 , upon this subject , are enacted , can only be explained upon the supposition that this power was , at tlie time , fully recognised " ( hear , hear ); and then tbe sentence went on , "for that Act gives no power to the Secretary of State to detain or open letters , but prohibits others from doing so , except by an express warrant and writing under the hand of tlie Principal Secretary , for every such
opening or detaining . " Therefore , his Hon . and Leanied Priend had suppressed these two lines , and thereby induced the House to believe tliat the Committee ol the House of Lords had made a general declaration that the power of detaining and opening letters was not authorized by statute at all . Then his Hon . and Learned Friend said tliat tliere were no authorities in the books sanctioning this practice . S ow _, ho ( tlie Solieitov-Geueral ) wondered that it had not occurred to his Hon . and Learned Friend that as the power was exercised in secret , it was not very likely tliat there should be any authority respecting it on tlie books . If that had occurred to his Hon . and Learned Friend , it would have saved much valuable time , wliich lie might have devoted to more important objects . Hut his Hon . and Learned Friend
said . that this was an illegal power , that there was neither statute nor common law for it , and that , give him usage since tlie foundation of the world for it , nothing should convince him that the power was legal , or ought to subsist . Now , it was impossible to argue with a person who spoke in that way ; but he ( the Solicitor-General ) _W-luld hope that there were others in . the House who would take a calmer view of tlie matter , and would agree with liim , although he could not go back to the foundation of Home , or of the world , in thinking that the researches ofthe committee , and the industry ofthe Hon . Memher . for Kendal ( Mr . Warburtoh ) had clearly made out , that this power was , from early times , a part of the prerogative of tlie Crown ; that the . Crown was enabled thereby to detain and open suspicious letters ; that tliu power had been ex .
ercised from early times ; that it was exercised under the Commonwealth in 1 G 56 ; that one reason for the establishment of the post by Cromwell's Parliament was the facility which it was expected to give of detaining treasonable correspondence ; and in fact that the power was proved to have existed in -good times —( hear ); and that in the 9 th of Anne it was most distinctly recognised as residing in the _jwiiicipal Secretary of State , no would for one moment refer to tlie statute of Anne . In the 40 th section they would find it enacted , " And whereas , abuses may be committed by wilfully opening , detaining , and delaying of letters or packets , to the great discouragement of trade , commerce , and correspondence ' , for prevention thereof , he it enacted , by the authorities aforesaid , that from and after the 1 st day of
June , 1711 , ' no person or persons shall _preiume wittingly , willingly , or knowingly , to open , detain , or delay , or cause , procure , permit , or suffer to be opened , ' , etained , or delayed , any letter or letters , packet c , r packets , after the same is ov shall be delivered into the general or other post-office , or into tlie bauds of any person or persons employed for the receiving or conveying post letters , and before delivery to the persons to wh iui they are directed , or for their use , except by an express warrant in writing , under the hand of one of the principal Secretaries of State , fur every such opening ' , detaining , or delaying , " Now , iu the present reign , all the Post-office acts had been repealed and consolidated iuto one act . In sec . 41 of the 9 th of Anne , cap . 10 , the oath which the _Post-Master-General and other officers of the Post-office take , was enacted . The Consolidating Act of the 1 st Victoria , cap . 33 , substituted a declaration in these
terms : — " I do solemnly and sincerely declare that I will not wittingly or willingly open or delay , or cause or suffer to be opened or delayed , contrary to my duty , any letter or anything sent by the post which shall come into my hands or custody by reason of my employment relating to the Post-office , except by the consent of the persons or persons to whom the same shall be directed , or by an express warrant in writing under the hand of one of the principal Secretaries of State . " This exception , it was to be observed , was copied from the exception in the oath enacted by the statute of Anne . This , then , being the state of the case , lie did not understand the Hon . member for Shrewsbury ( ilr . D'lsraeli ) when he said that no power was conferred on the Secretary of State , by statute , to open letters . The Hon . Gentleman said that the object of the Acts of Parliament was to prevent any clerk or sub-agent of the Post-office , from opening or detaining any letter , but that it was never intended to give
any power to the -secretary of State to open letters . But , if not , why should the Legislature have introduced any mention of the warrant of the Secretary of State J Because , if the object was to prevent any clerk or subordinate person from opening or detaining letters , it would have been enough to say so . ( Hear , hear . ) Wh y , otherwise , should words of exception be introduced at all ? The fact was , that tlie exception here proved the rule ; and it was effectual to shew that the Secretary of State had that power . What , then , was the result ? Why , this—wliich he humbly tendered to the House , and which he ventured to declare , as his deliberate opinion-that this I ' - 'ing a power which was exercised at common law , and before any of the statutes to wliich reference had been made , those statutes did not confer it , because the power existed when they were passed , but that they recognized it , aiid therefore that the power was a legal power , beiug so rccogniitcd and sanctioned . ( Hear , hear . )
Aow here the SonciTon _GExcnAh ' shirks the main question . He makes out what at first sight appeal' tobea plausible case for the users of the power ; but what would he be worth , as a lawyer , if he could not do that ? Men whose trade it is to
" Make the worse appear the better reason , ' and
" Who , right or wrong , plead still for gold , " are never at a loss for words and _Sophistries to supply the want of reasons and arguments . Such appears to us to be the case with the _Solicitor-Genehai ,. He was" invited" to show how tlio 'Secretary of State could legally issue a warrant for stopping , detaining , , and opening letters ; how he could take the "information" necessary whereon to ground such warrant * how lie could administer an oath to the party tendering . such information—as all " informations" to lie legal , must be on oath : the S _oucitoh-Ge . verai . was " invited" to show how all this could be done ; and he never even glanced at the points lit all He took his stand on the usage ; and from that he argued the legality . * "« The practice , " says he , " has existed ; it does exist ; it has been recognised and sanctioned ; and , therefore ifc it legal . " Such is , in brief the argument of the second law-adviser ofthe Grown .
Mr . Watson- had . anticipated all this . He had argued that if the practice liad not a legal foundation ; that if there did not exist authority for it that if the Secretary of State could not legally issue his warrant for such a purpose , all the -usage in the world would not justify the act . And so it appears to us . As for the . fact- relied on by the Solicitor -General , that because the practice was exercised in secret , therefore all the law-books were silent on the point ; we opine that it proves too much . Is it to be supposed that if ths power was known to exist , and to be conferred by law , and accordant- with constitutional ¦ principles , that some of tlio law authorities would not have even hinted at it , and " recognised" it , by
shewing that it existed for wise and good purposes 3 When B & iCKSioxE wrote his Commentaries , and defined tho nature and the number of the different warrants that the officers of State and the Magistrates can issue would he not havo spoken of the power residin" * in the Secretary ol' State to detain and open letters had he been aware that such a power legally existed ? And if none of our great constitutional writers ever ad vert to . such power as one known to tlie constitution , is it not _annawnt that the * « ecre . exercise of it has hitherto prevented its beir . a called in question ' ? It has existed ; it has been " recognised ;" , but so were General ' War-¦ r ants hobb . in ¦ _- u « " _. . wi " recognised " ' from
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94 to 17 _« 3 , until their validity v , t , s contested and the dccisioH of the Judges obtained against them . Usage did not avail in tliat case , _thoush General Wan-ants had once an Act-of-Paviiame existence . ; it would hardly be likely to avail in thip case of letter-opening , where no sucli _Aoniowrv ea » be shewn to _hrive ever existed fop the " odiou _* - " practice , nor anything but wage to j ustify it , ¦ _ij- . i an implied " recognition" in the statute-of Astsk
The Soi . iciTOR-G _* G 2 f * eKAii did not accept the _n--- ; "invitation" of Mr . Watson ; ho did not profess hh willingness to lay the warrant on the table of "tr « _j House , " that Mr . _DracojinK might take it into the Court of Queen ' s Bench , and there try its validity The SoiACiraR-GENEnAi . did not accept " this _ehallcv-e Why , ware left to infer ; and wo _misuik * _^ the general inference be not , that he . dare mi ' _* , will , however , be Mr . Duncombe ' s business to -v _, him to do it . As Mr . Watso . v < a _\{ \ '' » ¦ ¦ ' is a great constitutional question . It ' J * to be thoroughly tried . If there be no _authomtv ]> .,. ' the " odious" practice , how greatl y _iinloI > l , _;^ _^ j { ' Duncombe , for exposing and resisting tho unjust-an , '
illegal assumption of power , will Kngligln } E general bo ! What a " service to tiie Stat .- " _;*! not have rendered ! ITc will have _seouiv-. l for _^ self a niche in the temple of fame ! i ] , „ _- •¦¦ | . with Pym and Hampden , and the oilier _glories of th " land , who shine resplendent in history fov ln' _-in ,. resisted arbitrary power . To a full trial Oi' ilie q ; . _^ . _" tion wc invite him , satisfied that to th * _atteruput the people will sustain him . Let liim tat-. « t _!^ c r * isinto tlie Courts , before tho Judges , ik- > a „ n , cnt j f < 1 gets into a position to be able io do so . Convict » h Government there , of having acled _illegally , _^ . successful blow would bo struck at the ' _" ' odiou , '' practice ; a blow from which the _jir . ae . _' . iee couU
never recover . We understand that Mr . _Diwcoiibi- ' _s motion , foe bringing the Post-office officials to the Bar of " ths House , " is delayed by the forms of the House , h was expected , that , as itaffeete . 1 the privileges 0 f . the Members , it would have taken precedence on 'fucr . day . Ifc turns out , however , that ifc had to abide bv " coal-pit law "— "first come , first _served" jy _, ! Duncombe ' s motion is waiting its " _ti-. m . "
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_ygr Since the above was in type , we have _leajiis that it is likely Mr . Duncombe ' s motion will cos * on to-moivow night ( Friday ) , when he ia to mv ; it as an amendment on the propositi on th . it " t ' _^ House resolve itself into a Committee of _Wavg :. at Means . " We shall give the debate in a , ht . _-j edition , in time for Saturday inoniin «' s mr _. _ilg .
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victed avid punished for offences committed at flic ' _msij . gation of those parties . ( Continued cheers . I _cuaaidc-y the employment of spies not ouly _objectioiiiible , but hj _^ _bir dangerous , and contrary to the spirit of the _constitutioti of a free country . ( Loud cheers . ) But are yon prepared to say—if you determine that letters shall not k ' opened in the _Post-otSce—tliat there shall not again Ik tlie employment of spies ? ( Hear , hear . ) I taK _^ ; i _viw of tc . \ : subject which leads me to think ' that spies ought not to _li employed . ( Cheers . ) And when a person of violent bolitical opinions , a Chartist , who was in the counsel ol those who at the time I refer to were _calied physical for .
LORD JOHN RUSSELL ON _TIIF . i : _j-JPl , v _* tY . MENT OF SPIES . In the course of the debate on _ilw Foaufey Iniquities , on Friday night last , Lord John _Ruiiseu took occasion to sing his own praises as a _veryr-A . / denying Minister of State . His words were ;—We all linow very well that , a great muny y »( iri ago , when Lord Sidmouth held office , thp . t _statesmsr thought it was a fair and _legitimatemeans of maintain '; -, '' the public peace to employ spies . ( Hear , hear . ) M ; opinion is , that the spies so employed were often th * cati _. ofthe commotions and tumults they were cmplovcd to df . tect . ( Cheers . ) My opinion is , that persons were con .
Chartists , _offered me his services with the view of detecting thein , I refused at once his offer . ( I . ond cli « rs . ) I believe , sir , that the employment of spies floes not at present exist . But you have no ( sanction K- h . w to 'is _.-, policy ; you have no declaration on the 'wr : of thk _llzua wliich secures you against the employment of spios for « _, «« future . ( Hear , hear . ) That is a subject worthy of consideration . The secret service money is _orapbywl by th * Secretary of . State for that which he believes h the _servis- * of Hie State . And if you determine that thev . ; _sY . sUber . ' . _-. opening of letters in the Post-office , can roa b _* =
ecur-s—can you rely upon it—that the Right Hon . _-tiitiSlqsctiii : _? of State , anxious for the preservation of tlie public trarquillity , and feeling himself responsible for the _preseyv-i . tion of that tranquillity , will not have recourse to that whieh I think is far more objectionable than the _opoaing of letters in the Post-office , namely , the employment _cspies ? ( Loud cheers . ) The employment oi' spies is s most objectionable proceeding , for the spy _frequent ! . } ' it . stigates his victim to the commission of the crime lie never thought of committing , and for which he _afterwRrdssuJPT ! punishment .
On the danger and _wicrkdnkss of empioyir _.- ? SPIES , we are not about to difl ' er from fhe Noble Lord . On tliat head we have opinions quite as decide * as his own , und perhaps a _gi-eat deal more so . But while we shall not quarrel with tho late Home . Secretary for his denunciation of the spy-system * hi general , we shall take exception to ihe inference he intended to be drawn from his statement * , that _m had never resorted to the infamous practice . He
makes a - great merit of having "declined" tbe " offered" services of the " violent Chartist . " We remember that he did so at the time such " oiler " was made : but though he did "decline" such " offer , " he did not " decline '' the services of his oi « i spin who were actively at work at that veiy time i Lord John " declined" the " offer" made < o liim , and boasted of it , and boasts of it again : but he did not decline the services of _IIaukison at Bradford . _" _'i : _' '
Leeds , the scoundrel who received £ 80 in e- Ss * weeks from the chief-constable of Bradford , for procuring the conviction and punishment of uavties f « offences committed at his instigation ! lord Jon , when he uttered his unseemly boast , liad surely cot heard the statement of Mr . James Stuart _WowLtv _, only the night before , who told "the House" tliat he had drawn the fact , of the amount of money pahf to the SPY from his own mouth in open court ! Loiti John * did not "decline" the services of one of the Mozelets of I , eeds , who was '' instigating" to *• physics ! force outbreaks" at the time that he was in the ?'•) of the Leeds Police , £ 72 having been set apart by tbe Watch Committee for that purpose . Lord JouKdidnot
decline" the services of . the entrappers of Jobs Frost , who concocted their hellish plans in the back parlour of a certain " moral force" shop in the Strand , and who hurried a quiet and inoffensive man to destruction . Lord _Jon . v did not _" _dec _) _inC _' the services of the instigator of poor IloLiiEKar aw . G _* u \ _-tos at Sheffield , who got his victims " punished " so severely , that death humanely reieaseiUhomfro . fi Lord John ' s prison-torture . ' Lord Johx did not "decline" the services of atrocious miscreants on _tliosc occasions , * and his doing so in the ease where tlie " offer" was made to him , was only because hi had his own spies , perfoi * ming his , own work to hk perfect satisfaction .
But about this same " offer , " and . the party _« "offering . " We believe the faet to be as stated , ' and have before published it in the Star . At the time that Lord John ' s own spies had "instigated" *<' " physical-force" outbreaks , ancl liad "induced the commission of crimes , " Peter Hour and _Jasr . r _Grabtkke , of Barnsley , were " convicted" _ofhavini attended a meeting in tliat town , at which _fe - . had taken no part whatever . - But for such bare attendance they were . sentenced to two years' unprisonnient each . The sentence was a most savage ami inhuman one . Peter Hoey was , and is , a _respectable quiet , good-disposed subject . He was known to Cap ' tain Woon of Sandal , near Wakefield , who manifesto
a great- interest in his fate , and used all the _influence lie eould bring to bear to obtain a remission of to * monstrous sentence . Of course the application had to be made on behalf of both parties , Hoey and Ciur > _tuke . - Mr . Gully , then M . F _., waited _pevsowiilyot Lord John , at the Home-office , and enforced tlie _implication on Lord John ' s attention . As his answer . Lord John put into Sir . G cm * ' s hands a letter that y hadjRiCGiviid from _ClUn'tllllE , offering that , Jfrclc . " _- _- ' - _* - ¦ iVoif ) imprisonment , he would " peach , " and teilu . _l !•' knew of tlie intentions of the " physical force" Gh 1 ' lists . God knew that all he had lo toil , 1 . on . fc _& knew well enough before ; for his own _ppit-. s had r _' ' boon idle in INSTIGATING t but the * ¦• _affcr" »' ¦ "
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Northern Star (1837-1852), March 1, 1845, page 4, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns4_01031845/page/4/
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