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      ; S Thb Northern Star. January 30, 1847.

      ; S THB NORTHERN STAR . January 30 , 1847 .

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      IKl-ERIAL PARLIAMEr . ( _Contimi'd from trVs 1 st Page . ) It , oft , of enabling the board of guardians to use the rrkhorkhonse ai a test of _destitution ; and , secondly , eenabenabling them to afford relief out of the liouse to inn inn and aged persona at their own homes , with laatenater satisfaction to the feelings of the people , and . lb . aha hope of producing a better working of the rt . Jr . He also proposed that when the workhouses ire fire full , the Poor Law Commissioners abould have _mrer _tver to enable boards of guardians to giro relief tt of t of the house to the able-bodied poor . This power list list be used with caution . -The workhouses ought be 1 be kept as a test of destitution ; but there were sses tses where they could not afford accom modation to 11 whl who crowded to their doorsand in such cases aid

      , Bust _ust be given out of doors , not in money , but itt nod . ad . _ReUeving-officers also would be appointed , id iid in cases of urgent necessity , where there was _uiugauger of starvation , must ba empowered to take the _uittiertiea into the workhouse ? , or to relieve them out "ttu ' tbe workhouses until the next meeting of the _wardiard of guardians , when relief could be afforded _acmrJhrJin" to the general rules . Such were the mea-Lire 3 ire 3 he proposed to introduce immediately . There Eere ere other measures , however , still in contemplation :: tht" the government , ol which one was a measure for iciiiicilitating the sale of encumbered estates . He also " ¦ o pcoposed to introduce a bill by which long leasehold i nnrnnres renewable for ever should be converted into _ceeheeholds . The various tenures of land ia Ireland cere ere a great evil ; aud it was a matter worthy of

      _tarliarliament to consider how far those tenures could n sis simplified , and the landlord bs connected with the ¦¦ _natnant and the labourer , as in England . It was _minwing to this want of connection between them in [ _rehreland that it was almost impossible to discover ¦ _* ho _* ho was the party on whom , in the argent distress of tlie he country , the duties of property became _obliga-¦ _orvory . Under the second head of public works came _jshumesies ; but he had no definite proposition to _subnitiit to Parliament on that subject at present . In 'he he course oflast autumn a large supply of fish had _neeieen caught on the west coast of Ireland , but from ¦ sawatit of Bait , it had bten thrown on the land for : na _* nanure , instead of being cured for the food of man . ! 3 e 3 e trusted that before the end of the session he _i ihahould be prepared with a bill on the subject . There

      _iirasras another subject with respect to which a very iitatrong feeling existed in Ireland , namely , the sub . Iiecfect of emigration . Extravagant expectations had ibeOeeu excited and entertained on this subject which menever could be realised . He did not think that leiteither from public or private resources means could Ibebe afforded for this purpose , so as to lead to such an _erertensive emigration as would produce an increase in "ravages . It should be recollected that it was not mfnere ' j providing the _meaes of carrying a million of _pepersons to a distant country , but that as an extensrsive system of emigration , they should look to the etetate ofthe countries to which thej sent them . By injujudiciously pursuing such a course they might glut the mmarkets of labour in the United States and Canada , arand produce the greatest distress in these countries

      byby the introduction of such a mass of paupers . The _txfaest mode of promoting emigration was by affording aiaid on the arrival ofthe _emisrants at the place of tbtheir destination . This bad been extensively done Ialast year at Montreal . He should be sorry to give aany other stimulus to emigration . lie need hardly atadd that he was not prepared on tbe part of tbe state tito sanction any extensive scheme of emigration _tlhen—weihoull reduce theis to ruin , and create ibeggars in abundance where we now had industrious a and happy settlers . He then described the measu * _es v which he had adopted when he held the seals ofthe f Colonial Department to promote emigration by 1 taking charge of the emigrant at the port of his t disembarkation , and by _conveying hira thence to the i field of employment . He _ihowcd that there had

      1 been in consequence a large increase inthe amount i of emigration during the years 1 S 1-5 and 1816 , and : affirmed tbat under such circumstances he should i be afraid of giving 3 stimulus to further emigration . There were , however , some difficulties in the way of emigration contained in the Passenger Act which be intended to remove , but he could give no hope of an extensive scheme of _emigration , lie knew not whether the cakulati » n of Sir R . Kane was a sober one ; bat that eminent individual maintained that there were such extensive agricultural resourcesto say nothing of mineral resources—in Ireland that it could maintain seventeen million ' s of inhabitants without difficulty . He ( Lord J . Russell ) was himself of opiuion that if a good system of agriculture tvere introduced into Ireland—if anything like

      permaneat security were afforded for the investment of capital— -if the proprietors would improve their lands — . ind if their tenants and labourers would cooperate with them , the present population of Ireland Kas not excessive . The noble lord concluded an elaborate speech , which occupied two hours and a half , the delivery was listened to with deep _atxeation'bv & crowded _hoase is the following terms * — 2 see no reason—ancoanected with laws which I hope bave ceased to exist—unconnected with unhappy circumstances to which 1 do net now like to advert , unconnected with those circumstances , sir , I see no reason why Ireland may not at a tuture day rise to a state of great prosperity . ( Cheers . ) I will read io the house a description of a country in which the following evils were said to exist . The writer ,

      an old English author , says— "The husbandmen be thrust out of their own , or else , eUher by covin or fraud , or violent oppression , they te put beside it ; or by wrongs and injuries they be so wearied that they be compelled to sell ail . By one means , therefore , or by the other , either by hook or by crook , they _tnustneeds depart away , poor , wretched souls—men , women , husbands , wives , fatherlesschildren , widows , woful mothers with their young babes , and the whole household , small in substance and much iu number ; as husbandry requireth many hands ; away they trudge , 1 say , out of their known and accustomed bouses , finding no place to rest in . All their housebold stuff which is very little worth , though it might well abide tbe sale—yet , being suddenly thrust out , they be constrined to sell it for a thing of nought ;

      and , when they have wandered about till that be spent , what caa they then do but steal , and then _justly _. _part-Iy , be hanged , or else go about a begging ?" Sir , is this vivid description unlike the story ofan ejectment in Ireland ? ( Hear . ) Of an ejectment , where the wretched families turned out are obliged to sell their little all and " forced in a tew days either to steal or go about begging ? ( Hear . ) And yet the description which 1 have read is a description of England by Sir Thomas More —( hear , hear)—a description of the England of thia day . ( Hear , hear . ) And lest it should be considered highly coloured or fanciful , let it be recollected that there are other accounts written by magistrates , in which it is stated , that in every county there were 200 , 000 or 300 , 000 persons who lived by thieving , who went about , say

      the contemporary chroniclers , by sixty ata time , who carried away sheep and cattle , so that no husbandman was secure , and against whom no defence was sufficient—that in one year alone no less than 70 , 000 of these marauders were hanged . ( Hear , hear . ) Sir , this is an account of what England once was—that England in which we now see so much security . ( Hear , hear . ) And in the absence of tbe outrages described as formerly existing , I think we have a proof that their existence was owing to the state of society at the time , not the nature of tbe country . ( Hear , hear . ) I will now read you a description of another country at a different period , at the end of the seventeenth century : — " There are at this day in Scotland ( besides a great number of families very meanly provided for by the church boxeswith others

      , , who with living upon bad food , fall into various diseases ) , 200 , 000 people begging from door to door . These are notonly no ways advantageous , but a very _grevious burden to so poor a country ; and though the number of them be perhaps double to what was Formerly by reason of the present great distress , yet in all times there bave been about 100 , 000 of these vagabonds who have lived without any regard or submission either te the laws of the land , or even those of God and nature , fathers incestuously accompanying their own daughters , the son with the mother , and tha brother with the sister . No magistrate could ever discover or be informed which way any of these wretches died , or that ever they were baptized . Many murders have been discovered among them , and they are not only a most

      zmspeakable oppression to poor tenants ( who if they give not bread of some sort of provision to p erhaps forty such villains in one day , are sure to be insulted by them , but they rob many poor people who live in "houses distant from any neighbourhood . In years of plenty many thousands of them meet _together in the mountains , where they feast and riot for many days , and it country weddings , markets , burials , and other the like public occasions , they are to be seen , both men and women , perpetually drunk , cursing , blaspheming , aud fighting together . " Such , sir , is a description of industrious , sober , civilised , religious Scotland ( load cries of hear , hear ) . Such is a description of what that country was at the end of the ¦ seventeenth century ( hear , hear , hear . ) Dare we , sir , say that tbe particular laws—that the particular state of a country , bas no influence—that a country which has been in a perfectly disordered condition—where robberies have been frequent , where industry has been interrupted—may not yet become

      • rderly , civilized , and industrious ( hear ) ? _Weshould be unworthy of being members of this B-itish Parliament were we to give way to despair ( hear , hear , bear ) . Sir , I know that what 1 have touched on relating to the social state of Ireland—although alluding as I have done to many important measuresforms but a part of the case ( bear ) . I am not one of those who think tbat , apart from political questions , from political rights , and from other questions connected with political institutions—a merely beneficent government can make a country flourish . It is xay opinion that other measures will bo required , and when the proper time comes for proposing such measures 1 shall be readv to undertake anything which I think may be for the ultimate benefit of Ireland . But this I feel with respect to IT ? _? . . _^ l other measures , that there are things which a . Crown cannot grant , which a Parliament cannot enact : there are such things as a _epinfc of _self-reliaace and a spirit of co-operation

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      Moud cheers . ) And I must say plainly , that I should Weed despair of this task , were it not that I think I sec symptoBS in Ireland both of greater reliance on the part of the people on their own energies and their own exertions , and a greater willingness to cooperate with others . ( Hear , hear . ) I believe , if they will encourage this spirit amongst themselves , I believe that if they will look to what has been done in this country , and in her neighbour of Scotland by industry , by perseverance , and by never despairing of success—if tbey will but go on—not looking always to government proposals and to Parliamentary enactmentsi , but if they will look to what is the task immediately before them , and set themselves heartily and strenuously to perform that task—that there are

      means , that there are resources in Ireland , which may yet bring its miseries to a happy issue . ( Hear , _r-f l 7 m * ere 1 S nodoubt of the fertility ot the land ; that lertiht y has been the theme of admiration with writers and travellers of all nations . Thero is no doubt either , I must say , of the strength and industry of its inhabitants . The same man who is loitering by the mountain side in Tipperary or in Kerry—whose potatoe crop has just furnished him with occupation for a few days—whose wages and whose pig have just enabled him to pay his rent , and elk out a miserable existence , has perhaps a brother in Liverpool , Glasgow , or London , who , by the sweat ofhis brow , from morning till night , is competing

      with the strongest and stoutest labourers , and is earning wage 3 equal to any of them . ( Hear , hear . ) I do not think , therefore , tbat either the fruitfulness of the land , or the strength or the industry of the inhabitants are to be blamed . There have been faults it is true—there have been differencesb _'< t happy will it be for us , if we lay the foundation for the cure of those differences . —( Ilear , hear . ) _Happj will it be , if the Irish themselves take for their maxim their precept , "Help yourself , and Heaven will bless you , " and then I trust that they will find that there have been uses in adversity . ( The noble lord then resumed his seat amid protracted cheering . )

      A great number of questions relative to the details of the proposed measures were then asked by various members , to which Lord J . Russell replied , but the general feeling was that no disoiission shonld take place till the Bills were before the house , which his lordship stated would be on 'Monday next . The reception of the Government propositions by all parties seemed to be of a most favourable character . Leave was then given to bring in the Bills . The other orders ofthe day were then disposed of , and the -house adjourned at a quarter past ten o ' clock . " IIOUSE OF LORDS , —Tuksdat , Jammbt 26 . The Royal Assent was given by Commission to the Corn Importation Bill , and the Navigation Laws Suspension Bill . The house then adjourned .

      HOUSE OF COMMONS , _—Tcasim , Jaw-art 26 . Mr . T . Di'scombe presented a petition from Glasgow , _ptaying the house te amend the Act of 1845 , as regarded thc arrestment of wages , inasmuch as it was found quite inoperative iu the recovery of small debts .

      ABOLITION OF POUNDAGE ON CHELSEA PENSIONERS . Mr . F . _Ma _* tn . _* s asked leave to bring ia a bill to abolish poundage on the Chelsea pensioners . As this bill took from the public Exchequer , £ 40 , 000 or £ 50 , 000 a year , he thought it necessary to explain the grounds on which he proposed it . Tbis sum arose from the poundage paid by each Chelsea pensioner on the pension which he received either for long service or for wounds , or for wreck of constitution suffered in the service of the country . He explained thc circumstances on which this poundage was first levied , 100 years ago , and which , he conceived , fully justified it ; but those circumstances were now completely _changed , and therefore he recimmended the abolition of tbis poundage at once and forever .

      Captain Latakd should belie his feelings if he did not return his thanks to the Government for the boon which they were now conferring on the wounded and worn-out warriors of the country . THE TEN HOURS' BILL . Mr . J . Field **** , after presenting a number of petitions in favour ofa ten hours'bill , moved for leave to bring in a bill to limit the hours of labour of young persons and females in factories to 10 hours a-day . With regard to persons between 13 and 18 years of age , his bill was similar in its provisions to one wbich the late Sir R . Peel had propssed nearly 32 years ago , for it limited their labour to 12 hours , of which two were allotted to meals , for five days in the week , and to eight hours on Saturdays . He

      proposed to carry out this alteration by restricting the hours of actual Labour to 62 hours inthe week until the 1 st of May , 1813 , and after that period to 58 hours in the week ; and he _proposed further that the same restrictions should apply to females above IS years of age . His reason for proposing this measure was , that the time of working yonng persons aud females in factories was far too long , had been very mischievous , and , if persevered in , would become the cause of great national evils . It was also called for by all classes who had had opportunity of observing the consequence ** , of the present systemnot only by medical men and by the ministers of religion , but also by many master manufacturers , and by the operatives themselves . Mr . _Fer-saicd seconded the motion .

      Sir G . _GaEtdidnot intend to object to the introduction of this bill , which , though it slightly differed in form , was in substance the same with that introduced last session by Lord Ashley . He hoped that the house would allow this stage of the bill to pass without discussion , and would reserve the objections to it , in principle and in detail , for the second reading . He wished , however , to guard himself against being supposed to acquiesce in the measure because he assented toita introduction . Mr . Fielden had re ' ferred to the last report of the Registrar-General as affording proot ofthe great mortality occasioned in factories by tbe long hours of labour . He had himself seen that document , which was one of great importance . It appeared to him to afford proof of the increased mortality , not in factories , but in large

      towns generally ; for the mortality in Liverpool , where there were no factories , was greater than in Manchester , where there were many factories . The document demonstrated very elearly the necessity of passing some very stringent sanitary regulations for the improvement ofthe health of tho inhabitants of large towns . Mr . _TnsuffXT opposed the bill a 3 a very improper interference between the employer and the employed . It was at once redundant and deficient ; redundant , because it affeeted numbers who worked by time in factories ; deficient , as it did not provide for the case of female servants in London and of miners in Cornwall , who worked night and day , almost without intermission . His great objection , however , to this measure was , that it would reduce the rate of wages of labour in factories in the first instance , and of all other labour consequently .

      Mr . _Ferkaxd observed , tbat the argument ofthe last speaker only went to prove that he ought not to be _interfered with if he walloped his own ass . But the Legislature had already determined to protect dumb animals from cruelty ; and he hoped that it would now extend tbat protection to women and young children . He was delighted to learn , from a speech made by the Chancellor of the Exchequer at Halifax , that it was the intention of tbe Prime Minister to support this bill . He assured the noble lord that if he did indeed support it , he would rally round him a feeling of gratitude which would not soon be effaced from the minds ofthe labouring classes . After a few words of approval from Sir G . S trick

      USD , Sir R . _Pkei- regretted that Mr . Trelawny had proposed his amendment . He retained the opinions which he bad expressed on a former _occasion respecting this bill , not because he was indifferent to the interests of the factory children , but because he was conscientiously convinced that , in passing it , we should not be consulting their permanent welfare and prosperity . Into all discussions of this kind , however , feeling entered as well as reason . To reject this bill without discussion would be insulting to tbe great masses , who were strongly biased in its favour . He , therefore , thought that the house ought to adopt the same course which had heen adopted last year , —namely , to give leave for the introduction ofthe bill , and to discuss it ou the second reading .

      Mr . Hume urged the withdrawal of the amendment , in order that there might be a calm and dispassionate discussion of the question . Mr . B . Escott thought that the house ought not to discuss this bill now , as nobody was prepared for such a discussion . An assertion of Mr . Ferrand induced him to rise for the purpose of asking Government fer explanations upon it , Had Mr . Ferrand interpreted rightly the intention of Government ? Hid they intend to support the Bill , as Mr . Ferrand asserted , or did they intend to oppose it ? or was it to be made an open question ? A distinct answer to these queries would be most satisfactory .

      Mr . Trelaw . it , in consequence of the wishes expressed by several members , consented to withdraw his amendment . Mr . 1 ) . Escott again repeated his questions amid loud cries of " Order " from several quarters . Lord J . Russeu , observed , that it appeared to be agreed that the bill should be read a first time . When it came to the next _stas-e , he _ammUl be prepared to state what he would do regarding it . Leave was then given to bring in the bill . Subsequently it was brought in , read a first time , and ordered to bo read a second time on Wednesday fortnight .

      TIIE NATIONAL GALLERY . Mr . Hume then moved an address for a copy ofthe minutes of thc trustees of tho National Gallery during the years IS 15 and 18 IG , with the names of ali the trustees _prcsentat each mooting ; also for copies of the orders and instructions to the keeper of the gallery respecting the cleaning ofthe pictures , and any directions in respect to their arrangement . His only object in asking for a production of a copy of

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      these minutes was to set at rest , and clear away the observations that were made concerning them . He wished also to append these words to the terms of his _moiion , " or any other documents relating thereto , as lie understood that reports had been since made , wliich went to explain several matters connected with the subject . Sir _Robbrt Pbbl said , that as a trustee of the National Gallery , ho had pleasure in seconding the motion ; and he was sure that no objection would be made to the production of the papers moved for . ( Hear , hear . ) A meeting of the trustees had taken place two days since , and they called on the gentleman in whose immeuiate charge the pictures were placed , to make a full report on the subject . Hehad now only to express his hope that the House , in consequence of the devoted attachment of Mr . Eastlake to the profession , of which he was an ornament , would suspend their judgement on the subject . The motion was then agreed to .

      THE LAW OF SETTLEMENT . Sir Georob Grbt moved that the following Hon . Gentlemen Denominated the Select Committee on the Law of Settlement—Mr . Charles Bulier , Sir J , Graham . Mr . Bankcs , Mr . John Evelyn Denison , Sir George Grey , Mr . Hindley , Mr . Thomas Huncombe , Lord Harry Vane , Mr . Poulett Scrope , Mr . William Miles , Mr . Charles _Villiers , Mr . Borthwick , Mr . Charles Round , Mr . Adam , and Mr . Bodkin . Mr . _Fbbrand objected to the manner in which the committee was constructed ; Ofthe 15 names proposed , 9 were those of gentlemen holding liberal opinions , and sitting on the Ministerial benches , whilst

      only G wero names of Tory or Conservative members . That was not a fair nomination , and would lead to the committee being called a packed committee , in case it presented a report in favour of the working ofthe New Poor Law . Sir G . Gum defended the construction of tbe committee . Only seven persons were taken from the Ministerial , while eight were taken from the Opposition benches , Ue did not , however , look to the political opinions of hon . members in naming it ; his object was to get a fair committee , representing partly the opinions of members for counties and rural districts , and partly the opinions of large towns and numerous constituencies .

      The committee was then nominated , and the house adjourned . HOUSE OF LORDS . _—Thorsdat , J *** . 28 . The House sat for a short time , but no business of public interest was transacted . IIOUSE OF COMMONS . —Thursday , Jan . 28 . The SriAKER took the chair a few minutes before four o ' clock . Mr . _Robbuck wished to know if the noble lord at the head of the government bad made any calculation as to the cost to the country of the plan he

      proposed for the relief of Ireland . Lord J . Russell said that the amount issued up to the 1 st January last was £ 1 . 000 , 000 , under the Act oflast session , and since then another £ 1 , 000 , 000 had been advanced ; and if the present plan were to be continued they could not expect a less expenditure than £ 5 , 000 , 000 or £ 6 , 000 , 000 ; under the pro posed measure , he expected there would be a considerable reduction of that amount , but to what extenbe could not then say ; and the hon . member would , therefore , see that it was impossible for him to give a specific answer to the question .

      CONDITION OF CONVICTS IN THE HULKS AT WOOLWICH . Mr . T . _Dcxcoube moved for the appointment of a select committee to inquire into the treatment of convicts on board the hulks at Woolwich . The cruelties perpetrated on board the hulks were so great , and above all in connection with tho medical department , as to be absolutely disgraceful to a civilised country . The deaths were much greater than was shown in the returns . In the returns for 1815

      the deaths were given as only 1 in 58 , whereas he should be able to show before a committee that they were 1 in 22 . There were no visiting magistrates or inspectors oi prisons to whom the prisoners could appeal . The overseers of ships could order corporal punishment whenever they pleased . The honourable member then proceeded to make a number of specific _charges against Dr . Bossey , the surgeon of the convict ships . He also complained that there was an utter deficiency in tbe moral and religious instruction of the convicts .

      Sir G . Grey thought that the Ilouse should hesitate to take all the alleged facts stated by the honourable member as true , derived probably from some convict . _Ab forthe extent of punishment on board the hulk * - , he had been assured that there had only been one case ef corporal punishment during the last four years . He had that night heard for the first time of the cases stated ; but if the riglit honourable member would give bim tho names of the parties vouching for the truth of these facts , and the dates , he would take care that there should be the fullest and most searching investigation , but inquiry before a committee would lead to considerable inconvenience . He admitted that the hulk system was defective in many respects , but since 1843 many steps had been taken in the way of improvement . After some discussion a division took place , when the numbers were :-

      —For Mr . Duncombe ' s motion ii Against it 121 Majority against the motion —77

      THE NEW POOR LAW . Mr . Fbbhaxd moved for a select committee to inquire into the mode adopted by the Poor Law Commissioners and their Assistant Commissioners in drawing up their reports , and their treatment of Boards of Guardians ; and what control the Right Hon . Sir James Graham exercised over thc Poor Law Commissioners and their Assistant Commissioners , during the time he held thc ofiice ot Her Majesty ' s Principal Secretary of State for the Home Department . The lion . Member quoted the not complimentary opinions of the Poor Law Commissioners , and of the clerks , with respect to each other . He re . lated the circumstances ofthe case of Mr . Jenkins

      Jones , and contended that that individual had been entrapped into an agreement to plead guilty on tho understanding that he would not be brought up for judgment , but that he was condemned to twelve mouths' imprisonment , and only let out of prison upon threatening to expose Sir James Graham ' s and Air . Lewis ' s conduct . He went through the circumstances attending the report made . by Mr . . Mott respecting the Bolton and Keighley unions , and maintained that there was not one word of truth in the latter report , lie insisted tbat Sir James Graham and Mr . Lewis had given instructions to Mr . Mott to get up these reperts , in the first instance , to throw discredit upon Dr . Bowring , and , in the second instance , to crush him ( Mr . Ferrand ) . He charged the

      Poor Law Commisssioners with destroying documents that militated against tbem ; and , to prove his case , he read an affidavit voluntarily made by Mr . Barker , whe swore tbat he heard Air . Mott declare that Sir James Graham had made statements in the House of Commons which were entirely false , and that the report he trumped up was ordered tor tho purposeof crushing Mr . Ferrand . Tho Hon . Afembcr at great length reiterated all the charges he had heretofore made against Mr . Lewis and Sir James Graham , and complained of the manner in which he had been persecuted , both in the Ilouse of Commons and in the courts of law , in which last , however , he was resolved and prepared to establish his innocence and confound his persecutors . Sir J . Graham in reply said he expected that his retirement from the public service , and especially his strict retirement into private life since he left office , would have mitigated the hostility entertained

      against him by the hon . member . The right hon . baronet proceeded to touch lightly upon the causes of quarrel between him and Mr . Ferrand , down to the publication , in July last , of the hon . member ' s letters in the Times , charging him ( Sir J . Graham ) and Air . Lewis with conspiring to crush Mr . Ferrand . Inconsequence of those letters , acriminal information was tileu , and in making the rule absolute the affidavit of M _* * . Parker , so much relied on by tho Hon . Member , was used before the Court . Ue ( Sir James Graham ) had asserted on his oath , that the charges were wholly and in every particular false , and the affidavit solemnly denying them was filed , and could be answered . An opportunity would bo afforded to the Hon . Member at the trial to establish his charges , and he ( Sir J . Graham ) courted inquiry , and , was perfectly ready to appear and give his evidence _, lie had also been ready for examination by the Andover Committee , if they had thought proper to summon hira .

      Air . D'lsracli supported Mr . Ferrand , and after a short debate , the motion was withdraw n , and the other business having beea gone through , ihe House adjourned .

      HOUSE OF _LORDS .-Fiuday Ja _>* . 29 . Earl _Fitzwilliam moved for a return from which tbe precise amount of the influx of Irish paupers into Liverpool and Glasgow from the commencement of the present year might be ascertained , and compared witb a similar account for the same period last year . After some conversation to which the subject gave rise , the motion was agreed to . After some other unimportant business , the house adjourned .

      HOUSE OF COMMONS , Friday , Jas . 20 . Mr . Fox AIaule moved thc second reading of the Chelsea Pensioners Bill . The Bill was read a second time , and ordered to he committed . The CiiA . w _* eiAOB of the _ExciiEquEii moved the second reading of the Distilling trom Sugar Bill . Aftcrasbortconversation , in whioh Mr . Mackenzie applied lor dolay , and in which his application was opposed by Mr . F . French , Dr . Bowring , and some other members , it was read a second time , and ordered to he committed on Friday next . The Buckwheat , Ac , Importation Bill , was read a second time . The second reading of the Customs' Duties Bill was postponed until Monday next . The other orders ofthe day were then disposed of , and the house adjourned .

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      CHALLENGE TO DISCUSS TUE PEOPLE ' S

      CHARTER . i , _Maddox-3 treefc , Regent-street , 27 th January , 1817 . Sir , —The enclosed announcement will be paid for , if desired , as an advertisement , —but I should think it would be more to the honour of the Northern Star and of tbe CtariUte of England , U tbey waue no charge for inserting an acceptance of that challenge to honest political opponents which has been so frequently given by Messrs . Feargus O'Connor , Ernest Jones , Julian Harney , etc ., and published in the Northern Star ; and indeed the type appropriated to advertisements would be ill-suited for such a notice . When I before challenged to meet the League , I inserted regular advertisements in the Timss , Post ,

      Herald , & c , about equal in length to the announcement I now forward , for each of which _IpaidlO-. That was , however , a very different matter . I now address the organ of Chartism , which has so repeatedly called for some political opponent , and which will no doubt hail with g ladness in its next Saturday ' s number my _appearancain the publie arena as a con - sistent opponent of Chartism , " as inimical to the liberties of the English people . " I may go on to state , since I take for granted that you are in constant communication ' with the leaders of the movement , that if Mr . Feargus O'Connor , or the other leaders , should desire it for the sake of perspicuity , I should be happy to change _thewordsof my thesis , "That the Charter would neither advance nor secure the

      liberties , " into " would prove inimical ( or injurious ) to the libertiei and prosperity of the nation . " At all events , I trust that no verbal objection will be raised to the terms on which I would wish to base the controversy . Of course I should suggest that the upholders of Chartism ( whether always the same person or not ) , should speak alternately with myself : each , I should say , for the space of either a quarter of an hour or half an hour , as might be deemed advisable ; thc whole controversy occupying four hours ; in which I , the opponent of Chartism on tbe one hand , and the upholders of it on the other , should speak for two hours each . It is immaterial to me which speaker opens or closes the discussion . It being always understood that the Chartist and Non-Chartist speak

      for an equal numberof times . Any day , next week , excepting Monday , I should be happy to hold myself open for this ) meeting . Friends have suggested to me the possibility of the Northern Star shirking the question , and refusing to give that publicity to the counter challenge which it has so often given ( in its largest type ) , to the challenge , regarding it as the mere organ of a party , and have therefore recommended me to apply to the Daily Neivs , 1 believe , however correct their views may be ofthe impolicy of Chartism , that they do not do full justice to the _honeBt enthusiasm of many of its leaders ; and , there fore , I have no hesitation in addressing this letter to you , ( which you are also welcome to publish ) , and in _subscribing myself , in the full expectation of a satisfactory reply , Your very obedient servant .

      Archer Gurnet . Archer Gurmet . Air . Hewitt , publisher . ANNOUNCEMENT . The Leaders of the Chartist Movement having repeatedly challenged all who might entertain opinions opposed to their own to meet them in fair and open controversy , Archer Gurney , Esq ., Barrister of the Middle Temple , hereby expresses his willingness to meet any one , or all of them , npon any occasion , before a meeting ofthe working and other classes of this realm , in tho so-called Tower Hamlets Institute , this Institute being particularly within the reach of those who would take the most interest in the subject . Mr .. Gurney ( who offers to support half the expenses attendant on such public meeting , ) engages to maintain the following thesis , in direct opposition

      to the opinions of the Chartist Leaders * , viz . — " That the so-called People ' s Charter , consisting in " tho well-known Five Points , is calculated neither "to advance nor secure the liberty or prosperity of "the English nation . " All ulterior arrangements may be made by means of letter , addressed to Archer Gurney , Esq ., i , Maddox Street , Regent Street . It is hoped that Messrs . Feargus O'Connor and Ernest Jones , who havo so often _expressed tlieir desire to meet an honest opponent in fair argument before an independent British audience , will not shrink from tho opportunity thus afforded them . If they do so , their silence can only be construed as the internal consciousness of a bad cause , or , in plain language , as fear .

      The Challenge Accepted!; To Archer Gurne...

      THE CHALLENGE ACCEPTED !; TO ARCHER GURNEY , Esq ., _BAIiRISIfin AT LAW . Sir , —I once heard of a Barrister challenging an officer to fight a duel through the _meas waiter , supposing he would see him first ; your modus operandi is not less funny , as your wholesale "defiance" has come info my hands in the most roundabout way ; however , as I am one of those who feel thankful lor small favours , I shall deal with it as il you had adopted a different and more respectful course , and , firstly *—to dispose of your challenge :

      leu had better taVe a friend ' s advice and postpone the day of JUDGMENT , until you have studied the OTHER POINT OF THE CHARTER , as it _erabraces : SIX , NOT FIVE , POINTS only ; and , rely upon it , you will be compelled to TOUCH on all . It would have been more creditable if you had not concluded with a swagger . As _Bhao was a good dog , but Holdfast was better , you should have withheld even the supposition that your challenge would not be accepted , till you had made the experiment and failed . For my own part , I rather rejoice in my inability to meet you , because I have a groat desire to prove to you , and to the world , that Chartism does not rely upon any exclusive advocacy to insure that ascendancy , which

      discussion , above all other auxiliaries , promises . However , I have no doubt that an opponent will be PROVIDED for you from thc ranks of Chartism , and that your convenience and wishes will be in every way consulted , and all necessary arrangements made . So much for the challenge , and now a word about your letter . It is rather an impertinent letler and savours of conceit . You should have addressed it to me or to Mr . Jones , as for either or both of us it was especially meant , and , in contemplation of so great an event as that of exploding Chartism , yon should not have occupied one-half oi your letter about a paltry ten shillings . I have nothing to

      do with the arrangements of other papers , about which jou are so minute ; but , not to hold you in suspense , you shall not be called upon to pay even the duty for your advertisement , and if the 10 s . was any object , I would have gladly given you £ 10 for the Chartist feast you promise in these days of universal famine . You need be under no apprehension whatever of the Star shirking the matter ; it is too watchful for auch rave Godsends ; but by all means enlist the co-operation of the DAILY NEWS . As money appears _) to bo an object , I will pay yonr half of the expense with pleasure . I regret that you should have compelled me to treat both your advertisement and letter with anything like levity .

      I shall conclude by assuring you , that you will be waited upon and accommodated . I have the honour to remain , Your obedient servant , Feakous O'Cosscr . P . S . —You must admit that so far your wishes havo been complied with , as I am now writing in Worcestershire , at tUreo o ' clock or . Friday , and on Saturday you will see your letter and _challenge , and my answer , in print . F . O'C .

      Spitalfields. Mr. Christopher Doyle Deli...

      SPITALFIELDS . Mr . Christopher Doyle delivered an address to a very attentive audience at the Railway Engine Coffee-house , Brick-lane , on Wednesday evening last , January 27 th . lie reviewed thc state of Ireland , descanting on the Sufferings of her Children , the fidelity of the Irish soil , and her capacity for conferring prosperity , or at least treble her present population , and recommended Lord John Russell ' s Government , to cause the soil to bo tilled for thc ad vantage and benefit ofthe people . A vote of thanks was given to the lecturer , and the meeting terminated .

      SHOREDITCH . On Wednesday evening last Mr . Doyle lectured at Air . Taylor ' s , the Railway Engine Coffee-house , 122 , Brick-lano , " On the present condition of Ireland . " A vote of thanks was unanimously givon to the lecturer .

      ASSEMBLY ROOMS , _DEAN-STREET . On Wednesday evening a ' , meeting was held at these rooms to consider the " doings in Parliament , " especially the measures for Ireland , Mr . John Milne was unanimously called to the chair . Mr . Thomas Clark lamented the awful state to which Ireland had been r educed by quack Ministers , and selfish legislators ; reviewed in his usual sarcastic manner the effusion of Lord John Russell's proposed measures for the relief of Ireland ; and said the cultivation of tho waste lands would be all very well provided the cultivators were to have the advantage of it , but he could not see why the people of England should find money to improve the estates of the Irish landlords , for their sole and especial benefit . Mr . Clark concluded a very able and eloquent address , and sat down loudly applauded . After the usual vote of thanks to the chairman the meeting dissolved .

      MESSRS . M'GRATH AND CLARK . Resolutions of confidence in Messrs . M'Grath aud Clark , and thanks to them for their _servioes , have been unanimously adopted by the Chartists ol Bumley , Trowbridge , and Liverpool .

      Oldham.—Tho Central Committee, In Connec...

      Oldham . —Tho Central Committee , in connection with Dr . _M-Dauall , will meet on Sunday next at Mr . Lenora HaBlop ' s Temperance Hotel , Oldham , a ; two o ' clock i _*¦ _** •

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      Doncaster.—A Branch Of The Land Company ...

      Doncaster . —A branch of the Land Company ia now established in tbis town , which meets at eight o ' clock , every Tuesday night , at tho house of Air . Thomas Philips , Church-lane . _CwiBV-uwELii asd Walworth . —The _abareUoUers of this district of the National Co operative { Land Company , are requested to meet at the Montpelier Tavern , Walworth , on Monday evening next , February lit , on business of the first importance . Hammbbsmith , Fulham , Chiswick , and the surrounding * Villages . —The inhabitants are informed that all who may desire to join theNational Co-operative Land Company , can do so by apply ing at tke district office , 2 , Little Vale Place , Hammersmith road , any day inthe week , and that a meeting of the members ofthe company residing in the district , ia held at the above office , every Sunday morning _.

      Tnu Anniversary of the Birth of Thomas Paine . —The admirers of the principles of this truly great man are requested to attend at the South London Chnrtiat Hall , 115 , BInckf ' _riars _' _s Road , on Sunday evening next , January 3 lst , when Mr . Edmund Stallwood , will deliver an oration on his life and writings , to commence at eight o ' clock pre eisely . The Land ! TnK Land ! . '—Lectures ' elucidatory of this all engaging subject are given every Thursday

      evening , in the large room of the Princess Royal Circus Street , Marylebone , commencing at eight _, o ' clock prrcisely . Mr . _M'CrAth will lecture , on Sunday , February Uth , at Mr . Brett ' s , the Globe and Friends , _Morenn-street , Commercial-road . Chair to be taken at eight o ' clock , Thb _Agitatios Committee of the Tower Hamlets , will meet at the Whittington and Cat , Church-row , Bethnal Green , on Sunday evening next , at six o ' clock , when it is expected every member wiil attend to do his duty .

      Tub Local Committbe ofthe Chartist , and Registration and Election Committee of the Tower Hamlets , will meet on Wednesday evening , Feb . 3 , at eight o ' clock precisely , at Air . Brett ' s , Globe and Friends , Morgan-street , Commercial-road . Marylebone . —Mr . Ernest Jones will lecture at the Coach-painters' Arms , _Circus-Btreet , on Sunday evening next , January 31 st , at eight o ' clock precisely . Thb Eastern Philanthropic Emergency Society will hold its monthly meeting on Wednesday next , February 3 rd , at the Society ' s house of meeting , at Mr . Drake ' s , the Standard of Liberty , Brick-lane , Spitalfields , Members who has not cleared up last year ' s accounts , are reauested to do so at this

      meeting , or their names will be erased from the Society ' s books . Chair will be taken at nine o ' clock . _Proceedings in _Parliament . — A public meeting to discuss the several matters before _Jthe Legislature will be held at the Assembly-rooms , Dean-street , Soho , on Wednesday evening , February 3 rd , at eight o ' clock precisely , Mr . T . M . Wheeler , and other frien ! _g , will address the meeting . The Late D . nner al thb White Conduit House . —The Committee will meet , to-morrow , ;( Sunday ' afternoon , at three o ' clock , at the Assembly Rooms , 83 , Dean-street , Soho , when all persons holding tickets or cash , are requested to settle the same . The Metropolitan Committee will meet at the same _, time and place .

      The Fraternal Democrats will assemble at the German Society ' s Hall , Drury-lane , on Monday evening next , February lst , at eight o ' clock . _Subjects for discussion— "The American Land Movement , " and the "Address of the Democratic Poles to Europe . " Tiik Democratic Committee for Poland ' s Regeneration will assemble at the German Society ' s Hall , Drury-lane , on Monday evening next , February lst . Assembly Rooms , 83 , Dean Street , Soho . —Mr . T . Clark will lecture here on Sunday evening next .

      Croydon . —On Monday evening last Mr . M'Grath delivered a Lecture on the Land , in the large room of the Crown Inn , which had been hired for the purpose by the members of the Chartist Co-operative Land Company in this locality . Mr . Clark , the subtreasurer occupied the chair . The lecture lasted nearly two hours , was listened to with great attention , and seemed to give complete satisfaction . At its conclusion a vote of thanks was given to Mr . M'Grath for his valuable services , and the meeting dissolved .

      The Land and the Charter . — Messrs , P . M'Grath , and T . Clark , will address public meetings in tho Countv Assembly Rooms , Maidstone , Kent , on Monday , February 1 st ., on the advantages ot the National . Co-operative Land . Company and the Labour Bank ; and on Tuesday , February 2 nd , on True Democracy , as founded on tho Principles ofthe People ' s Charter . _Shorebitch . —Mr , Wheeler will lecture at Mr . Taylor ' s Railway Engine Coffee-house , 122 , Bricklane , near Church-street , on Wednesday evening next . Subject—The Elevation of the Working Classes . Chair to be taken at 8 o ' clock .

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      Mansion-House.—Detection Ob Two Bobolaes...

      MANSION-HOUSE . —Detection ob two _Bobolaes . —Two well-known youugthicves , who bave assumed the names of Herbert Glenroy and Malcolm Grain * , the latter of whom was trie * a short time ago in the name ot Jemmy Kemp , for a burglary ; were brought before the lord Mayor , charged with breaking into the house of Mr . Taylor , grocer _. in Bishopsgate Without , and stealing a quantity of plate . One of the prisoners is 18 , and the other 17 years of age . Mary Cullen , liousraiaid in Mr . Taylor ' s family , stated to the following effect : — She went to bed on Saturday night at fire minutes to twelve o'clock , and at that hour all the doors and windows wer » fastened , except thc back

      parlour window , on which there was a skylight , which was closed , not fastened . The back _pnrlour vras _« n a level with the dniwing-room on the first floor . Witness heard no noise in the night , and wns culled by Mrs . Taylor at a quarter past seven ou Sunday morning . The plate , which had been nil safe in the plate basket in the parlour cupboard when she went so bed , was lying in a heap on the ground , and was separated from articles of baser metal , which ware put aside as unworthy of notice by the thieves . In tbe warehouse there was one of the plate J articles noar a hogshead , in which tho prisoners were subsequently found by the police , who were called into the liouse by Mr . Taylor . Other evidence was given . It

      appeared that the prisoners were found on the premises , secreted in a half-empty _sugar-hogshead . The prisoners said tbat as they were passing along , at five o ' clock in the morning , they saw the side-door open , and not having been in bed all night , and having no means of providing themselves with one , they walked in , and laid down to roost in the sugar hogshead , Thoy declared that their intention was merely to get a nap , and that if they meant robbery , they cuuld easily have got out of the liouse . Tbey knew nothing at all of the plate , _« r anything else , and they had never beeu in prison before . Tlie prisoners were committed for trial ut the Central _Criniiniil Court .

      WORSHIP-STREET Borglaries — Austin Mont . rose was _brought up for re-examination on the charge of having committed divers burglaries and robberies . — Sergeant Brennen , of the detective force of the G division , stated , that on the 23 rd of December tho promises of Mr , Berdoe _, clothier , Goswell-road , were broken into , aud property to thc amount of upwards of £ 300 waa stolen , and ' amongst the rest was a cloak , which was pledged at the » hop of Messrs . Alton and Walker , _Hackuey-road . On Sunday , the 10 th instant , he went to the _prisonous lodging , and upon his person he found a du .

      plicate relating to the cloak , .-is also several others , touch _, ing property also belonging ta | Mr . Berdoe . He also found upon the person of the prisoner several implements of housebreaking . In _Octobur last , the prisoner , with another , broke into the premises of _Messri . Hugham and Co ., tailors and drapers , CHy _* _road , and succeeded in carrying off w ith them property amounting to £ 200 , Messrs . Hugham ' _spremises mere alsoentered last month , and goods about the samo amount were stolen . The prl . soner had been for some timo seen lurking about the neighbourhood . —The prisoner wag committed .

      GUILDHALL . — Dariss _Robbesv it a _WjiTcn-Ji . 'KEit ' s . —Three well-known thieves , George Williams . Goorgo _Standish , and John Wilson , were charged with hariugcommitted the following daring robbery : —Mr . Henry Perving , of 63 , Pavringdon-ttreet , watchmaker , stated that about a quarter to eleven o ' clock on Saturday night , he was removing the watches from the window , liii sou taking them from him and putting thera in _casej . Whilst so engaged , he felt a forcing in of the framework , as if some one was pushing against it , and then a second and third , when a smash followed , and an _imniense squure _' of plate glass fell in pieces , at the same time

      a number of watches , fell on the pavement . Witness ran to tbo door and observed Wilson and Williams running _aivuy _, and suspecting the former had some of the pro . pcrty , he pursued him , followed by Williams , who several times ran across him , evidently for the purpose of tripping him up . Wilson ran among the cabs and made his way towards Fleet-lane , but witliiu a few yards of that place , he was taken into custody by the policeman , who saw him just before fling a gold watch into tho roai . He ( Mr . _Tcrring ) then collared Williams , and they were conveyed to the station-house . Tho glass that was broken was valued at £ 6 . T he prisoners were committed for trial .

      THAMES . —TUE CtEBQTMAN AND THE SERVANT . — On Monday Jane Noates , late servant to the Rev . Robert Franklin Spencer , LL . D ., Curate of St . Mary ' s White- ; chapel , who stands charged with having stolen several articles , of trifling amount , in her waster ' s house , surrendered with her bail , before Mr . Yardley . The c _» se was reported in our last . Tho prosecutor now said , if tho young woman publicaly expressed her sorrow , and the mother made an ample apology , Vie would fure > go the prosecution , Mr . Yardley asked , are there any other cases against tho prisoner ?—Mi * , Fclliam : None , Sir ; the police have made every inquiry . Here ths wife and sister ofthe Rev . Gentleman wero urging hira to press tbo case , on which Mr . _Peltiam exclaimed , ' * This is too I bad really , tho _wlf « awl jus tec ot t * _- » _Uev . _Gentleanra are

      Mansion-House.—Detection Ob Two Bobolaes...

      _, urging him against Lis inclination ! -. " After a , of wavering on the part of the Rev . Dr . Spencer he ? length said lie would not press the case . The prison was then discharged . et THAMES —A _well'known thief namod Daniel Murnh was brought before Mr . Tardley , on remand , chars i with stealing a silver watch and appendages , from ? _f person of John _Rodriuues , a Spanish Bailor , it . peared that on the ltith instant , the sailor was in _apu Ki ?" bouse , in Upper East Smithfield , where he fell in _Wu u woman of loose chsractcr named Dunn , and after treat * ing her , agreed to go home with her . An attempt « made to steal his watch and his purse before he left th house , but it did not succeed , Tlie sailor and the < , i ] left the hou 9 e together , and proceeded up a narrow _« ,.

      sage calle-J Brown _Hear-alley , towards the house _whar the woman lodged , and had just reached the door *> he _5 the prisoner , who had been in the public-home , and «« treated by the sailor , made his appearance , and struct the Spaniard a violent blow on the ft co _, which _ooitti him _tostagger ; he fell , and the prisomr , in an instant snatched his watch , to which a a ' . lrer guard was attach _^ ' from his waistcoat pocket , Tha woman , Dunn , a _/ tempted to seize the prisoner , b » t he pushed her aside struck her on the breast mid made off . He was appte ! hended on the previous Tuesday , by Wigley a police . _co- * , stable , No . HI , 11 . The prisoner said he had nere seen tlie watch , he had never seen the man , and hehad nEvtr seen the woman . He was committed for trial

      CLERKEeVWELL . — A decently attired , _middle-agej woman , who gave her name Mary Davis , but who de . clined giving her address , was placed at the bar _befoca Mr , Greenwood , charged by Mr , Thomas Doubble , linen _, draper and haberdasher , of 38 , Leather . lane , Holbom with stealing 26 yards of damask cloth . —The prosecu . tor deposed that the prisoner had been in the habit of visiting his shop for a considerable time past to males trifling purchases , and from the respectability of her ap . pearance she was not suspected of robbery , although ar . tides were invariably missed after she had left the shop . On tbe 12 th inst . she paid a visit , when a _large roll of damask cloth was missed from the end of the shop , and which she must have concealed under her large cloak , which she now had on , and which she generally wore .

      Feeling convinced that she was the thief , he _detevminad on laying a trap for her detection , for which purpose he attached a piece of string to a piece « f damask , about eight yards long , the _hngth of tho shop , and placed the property at the furthest end of the couater where the prisoner usually went on entering the place . On Monday morning the prisoner called again whilst witness was alone in the shop , and asked for a small quantity of caiico . Ue was folding it up when the prisoner went to the end of the shop , under pretence to look ata shawl , the price of which she asked , when she contrived to conceal the damask cloth under her cloak , and not perceiving the string attached to the end of it , she walked back , received the calico which she asked for , and was leaving , but the

      extent of tho string prevented her further _progress than the door , and on turning around , the string , one end of which was fastened to a nail on the wall at the end ofthe shop , twisted about her neck , and the property filling from her she was nearly strangled by its weight . He ealled Taylor , ofthe G division , and gave her into oustodr _. Witness added , that she was connected with a gang ot female shoplifters , who had lately plundered him and others in his trado to a considerable extent . Mr . Greenwotd told Mr . Doubble he had acted very foolishl y , and he had outwitted himself in his attempt to entrap the prisoner . It could not be construed into a case of stealing , under the circumstances . Haviug _suspectel the prisoner he ought to have dispensed with the string , and have watched her until _sVie _tooltttio property away from the

      shop , and then have stopped her . He , however , would commit her for trial , for attempting to steal the property , He inquired , whether thero was any probability of tracing any other property stolen by the prisoner * Taylor , said there was ; but the prisoner refused to say where she lived . Mr , Greenwood . —What have you to say to the charge 1 Prisoner . —Nothing ; only that he nearly choked me with his string . ( A laugh , in which the pri . soner joined . ) Mr . Doubble said , he suspected the prisoner belonged to a notorious gang of shoplifters , in a court near Holborn . Mr . Greenwood said , he would com . mit the prisoner forthe attempt to steal the property ; but , in order to afford the police an opportunity to trace other property , he would remand her until Saturday next .

      SOUTHWARK , —Francis Cramore , a young man fol _« lowing the occupation of a market gardener , was brought before Mr . Seeker , charged with having stolen a number of silver coins of the reign of William III , and G eorge II ., and also several _Spanith coin- ) , all in a state of excellent pre . serration . Tho prisoner had , a few days since , at Roth « r hithe , offered a number of old coins for sale to different tradesmen , at prices infinitely _bslow their intrinsic value . The circumstance having reached the cars of the police , and as it was known he was formerly in indigence , he was questioned as to the manner in which hehad become pos . sessed of the coin , several of which were found in bis pos . session , llis _antwers being considered unsatisfactory , he was taken into custody , and when brought btfors Mr , Seeker , it was stated that tiro small keys were found is

      his pockets , which were at first supposed to be the keys of the desk or escretoire out of which hehad taken the coins . The accused said that he was a market gardener , in the service of Mr . Brandon , of Rothcrhithe . That , on Wednesday last , he and another man were employed in digging on a piece of waste ground opposite the Commereial Dock at Rotherhithe ; and , while so engaged they dug up several pieces of coin , which they at first supposed to be halfpence and penny pieces , but on clearing away the mould from thera they discovered thorn to be of silver _. They took possession of what they fouud , thinking they had most right to them , as tbe coin seemed to him to have no owner , and the appearance of haviug betn butried in the soil for a great number of years . Ho added that lie was very willing to point out thc spot where the discovery was made , and that his fellow workman , who shared in the spoil , would confirm his statement relative

      to the finding of the coins , Mr . Seeker directed that _imjuiries should be made on the subject of this statement , and he was deBired to remain in court until the arrival of the policeman , who shortly entered and said , that from all he could collect on the subject the explanation given was correct , and that other persona hearing of the luck of _Ctamova and his fellow workmen , who had dug up the earth to a considerable extent , but were disappointed in tlieir expectations . Mr . Seeker said that now there was no reason to doubt the truth of the young man ' s statement , but although he was the fortunate finder , still it was not certain whether he could claim them , tlie lord of the manor , whoever te was , having a pri or right to property of the description found under similar circumstances . As , however , but a small number of coin was found in his possession , he ahould order them to be delivered up to him , aud he should dischaige him from custody .

      GUILDHALL . —Case of _Distkss . —An elderly person who had evidently b ** n well educated , and had seen better days , made an application to Alderman Jomuou for relief under the following distressing circumstances : —ne stated that his name was James Thompson _Irrin , and that at the time of the French revolution . ary war , he was a merchant , carrying on business at Xo 06 , Wood-street , _Cheapstde , and in very prosperous circumstances , but owing to the disastrous events of that period , ho lost aU in consequence ofhis stock , whieh con . sisted of _Manchestergoods _, being seized at Hamburgh by the " army under Marshall Davoust , in obedience ofthe orders of tho Emperor Bonaparte , the result of wbich was that he became a bankrupt , and had since bean struggling on so far as barely to keep his family from starving , lie had received some relief from his _lriends , who had been exceedingly kind to him , and with the

      small profit arising from the sale of trifling articles ifl the streets had heen able to rarely exist . He had a wife and _iotir children . Ills wife , who had been used to erery comfort in his inoro prosperous days , could not bear np against their adverse fortunes , and about nine years since became insane , and was at present in Mr . Warburton ' s Asylum , at Bethnal Green . -Two of his _childrtn were supported by some kind friends , and the other two were dependent upon himself , and what little tbey could occasionally make by vending small articles of stationary about the streets . He had lately boed confined in St . Thomas ' * Hospital , with rheumatic _ferer , Enquiries having been made , and the statement of the applicant having been found correct , he was furnished with an order for new clothing , and some temporary relief was given to him , at the the fame time being told to call again next day .

      BOW STREET . — A _Drcr Dbsicwer . — _Thorani Scott , described in the police sheet as a designer , residing at 16 , _Kennington-place , Vauxhall , was charged with having _obtamud money from Mr . Frederick Stray , a tailor , carrying on business at 111 , Strand , by means ot » f » Ue cheque . The pros « cutor stated that the prisoner owed hun a . null account , amounting to £ 510 s „ and oa Wednesday evening he came into his shop , aud , holding up the cheque _produced , purporting to be drawn by J . ff , Stone and Co . upon Messrs . Glyn , Halifax , and Co ., in _fnvoar ofa Mr . Watson , said that he knew tho _drawwsto

      be respectable people , anl requested witness would cast * it for him , which he was induced to do upon such representation b y givin _, ; lnm a cheque for £ 33 17 s ., being the difference after deducting the amount due to bim ; and his clerk having receipted the priaoner ' i bill , he went away . On the following day witness sent hi " foreman to get the cheque cashed at the bankers ' , aud be was told tUat uo such persons were known ther . o , an , further , that several cheques of a similar description h » o been presented . Witless subsequently _discevered tint his cheque had been cashed at his banker ' s on Thursd _*!

      morning , immediately after tlui doors _vtete t-pened . 0 * Thursday erenin g he took a _censtable with him to tho prisoner ' s residence , and on seeing him ho informed hi- *" the _clie-me he _«» Te him had been dishonoured , which W seemed to treat with perfect indifference , saying thai be would pay ths moii f j wheu he could . The constable _•*»»» then called in , au «\ on -uking the . pt ' uoner how he _becamo possessed of tbe clmiue , he replied that _her-eeiv _**** it from Mr . Knight , Thames-street . —Tho prisoner ¦ _- '•¦¦¦ remauded .

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      Streiet, Llaynuirkct, In The City Of Wes...

      _streiet , _llaynuirkct , in the City of _Westiiiiuote-r , at t _' - _- _Oflit'o , in tho same Streot and Parish , for the _Preprictor , FKAROUS _O'COINWOU , Esq ., nud publish * * - by WiLMAs- IIkwitt , of No . 18 , _Charles-strect , l > _r- _*» _- ' don-street . Walworth , iu the parish of St . Mary , Ne" - _ington , in the Countv of Surrey , at tho _Otlie-o , So . _*' Great Windmill-street , Haymarket , iu tlio City of Vi _«•' ! MIWteH \ Saturday , January 30 th , 1817 ,

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    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Jan. 30, 1847, page 8, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns3_30011847/page/8/