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      i _Yri-i _* _. n-rr- _!•¦¦ -fir , »— _+ _+ ¦ _+ * _+ ¦ _+ * _+ _*¦'''* _' _'"* . _* _+ _*¦ _¦**• ¦• * "" HOUSE OF LORDS , Moxbat _, Maisch 17 . -A _. ireat many bills were forwarded a stage towards m ' amritv but with very UtUe debate . Some sparring JS _^ _w Sfc-b _^* -md l ord C ampbell alone _Versified the routine , of which the occasion , course , and termination were as foUows : — _^ ibe motion of Lord Campbell , the House went into committee on the Deodands Abolition Bill . TheEarl of _Ellesboeough objected to certam words _intheJffl . _-J _*« chhetliought imneces 5 ary . _Ini _^ HfBEU said the hitt was very short , it consisted only of two clauses . , . . The lora Chancellob . —But the second clause is suffident . .. _ - _ .

      Lord _Camtbell . —At any rate the objection does not eome very well from thc Noble Earl , who certainly had dealt in " unnecessary words , if certain instruments that came from India , and which were imputed to hhn , were actually . ; _«¦* " I " composition - but many persons in this couhtry ' doubted whether they were not altogether an imposition , and not from the Governor-General of India . The Earl of ¦ _Ellesbobough . —My Lords , I am glad the Xoble and Learned Lord has referred to my conduct in India . I mn here to auswer any man as to my conduct in that ¦¦ . mistry , and I now wish to hear said in my presence _tliiit which has been stated in my absence . ( Hear . ) Lord _CaMrsEH .. —I beg to assure the Noble Lord that in the observations I made I had not thc most distent idea of making any reflection upon him ( hear ) , but I will merely say , if tbe Noble Earl is contented with things as they remain , so am I .,

      _TSeEarlofEitENBOBouGH . —I beg to give the Noble and Learned Lord apiece of advice which I believe was once given by Lord Chatham , in the House of Commons , to some Hon . Member of that House who had chosen to arraign his conduct—that the next time he meant nothing , he had better say nothing , ( hear . ) Lord Bboughasi . —I hope this wiU go no further ( hear , hear ) , except tliat as my Noble Friend , who was absent on a former occasien says , as I myself Know , that nothing will ever give liim more satisfaction than to hear "himself operilir attacked in his presence , for he is ready to defend hiinseif . I must add this , that as often as anything was said in impeachment of his conduct in his absence he was zealously and fully , and anxiously defended ( hear hear ) hi * _*«^>« _wimwSfiiiiy _«•««* _<* * bijr «" ofi » i » _aori by my Noble Friend the gallant Duke—and he was zealously though , God knows , not ably , hut I believe successfully defended by the individual who now addresses your Lordships , ( hear , hear . )

      The E-irl of _Ellexbohough . —I know- the whole debt of gratitude I owe to the Noble Duke upon this as upon other subjects , but I canuot venture to speak of the subject . The matter then dropped , and the bUl passed through committee . This edifying example ended , their " Lordships" soon after adjourned . Tuesdat , March 13 .

      COAL MIKES . The Marquis of _LoxnoxDEBKT was desirous of asking his Soble Friend a question of considerable "importance , which was , whether he should now move , or on a f uturc day , for the report of Messrs . Faraday and Lyell , who had been sent down to inquire into the explosions which had taken place recently in the north of England ? He verily believed that the report-would be productive of very great benefit , and tliat it reflected great credit upon those who had complied it . The Duke of Wellisgton replied , that her Majesty ' s Government had turned their attention to the dreadful occurrences which had taken place in the mines of the north of England , and had sent two gentlemen of great talent to make inquiry into those and all similar

      misfortunes , -with directions to make a report upon the subject ; which report was communicated to the gentlemen interested in the coal mines in the north of England ; and they having considered the subject , and stated their opinion ** , and made suggestions founded upon their know _, ledge and experience which were highly interesting , the Government had considered it to be its duty to refer those opinions to the scientific gentlemen whom they had previously sent down to inquire . Her Majesty ' s Government were waiting , aud were anxious to wait , to have the opinion of the scientific gentlemen upon the suggestions made by thc coalowners before they proceeded

      to the publication of those documents . ( Hear . ) He agreed with liis Xoble Friend that it was desirable that those papers should come before the public , and that they should he eventually laid on the table of both Houses of Parliament . There could he no objection whatever to the publication of these papers at the proper time ; but lie submitted to his Xoble Friend , and he thought their Lordships would be of the same opinion , that they should "be complete ; that the information contained in them should be rendered as perfect as possible before they were published ; and , therefore , he would suggest to his Noble Friend to postpone his motion until those papers were complete , ( near . )

      The Marquis of Loxooxoebby expressed his satisfaction atthe course pursued by her Majesty ' s Government on this subject , and acquiesced in the suggestion of the Noble Duke to postpone his motion for the production of the report in question . He also took that opportunity of thanking , on be-half of that trade of which he was a humble manber , her Majesty ' s _Goveriinieiitfor reuioviug the duty on the export of coals , a measure which would tend greatl y to improve the condition of the pitmen , who for six or seven months past had suffered great misfortune and "wretchedness , in consequence of fhe conduct they hod pursued under the influence of designing demagogues . They were a class of men usually respectful to their employers , industrious , and peaceable ; but he was sorry to say that they had been _extUtA and _cj-helb hy persons from whom better things might have been expected .

      Some bills were then forwarded a stage , after which their "Lordships" adjourned until Thursday , the 3 rd of April .

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      HOUSE OF _COMMONS , _Moxdat , March 11 . The Speaker , took the chair shortly after twelve o ' clock . The House was occupied with the further consideration in committee of the Lands Clauses Consolidation ( Scotland ) Bill , and the Railway Clauses Consolidation ( Scotland ) Bill . The report on both bills was received and agreed io . The House then adjourned till five o ' clock . _^ hen the llouse resumed , Sir C . Lemon brought in the Cormvall Railway Bill , which was read a first time .

      - The following raUway bills were severally read a second time , and ordered to he committed : —The North "BritishRailway Bill ; the South Devon ( Tavistock and Other "branches ) Railway Bill ; the Berks and Hants -Railway BiU ; the Blackburn and Preston Railway Bill ; the Glasgow , Paisley , "Kilmarnock , and Ayr Railway Bill ; the Launccston and South Devon Railway Bill ; and fhe Sheffield and Lincolnshire Junction Railway BilL Mr . Serjeant Mcbpht presented two _petitiocs , one complaining ofthe opening of Mr . T . Duncombe ' s letters at the Post-office , the other praying for some modifications in the criminal code . A message from the Lords brought down a biU for relieving the Jews from municipal disabilities , to which they desired the concurrence ofthe House .

      Sir R . Ixgms wished toknow on what day after Easter his Right non . Friend at the head of the Government intended to take the second reading of the bUl brought fiom thc other House of Parliament for granting relief to the Jews ! ( Cheers from the Opposition benches . ) Sir R . Peel did not know that he could now state on what day he should move the second reading of the biU . They must take the estimates on an _cr-riy day after the Easter recess ; but this he would promise his Hon . Friend , —he would not move the second reading on any day so early as would deprive him of due notice—say a -week . Perhaps his Hon . Friend would not object to thc first-reading of the biUnow ? ( Hear , hear , from the Opposition benches . )

      - SirR . lNG'us had no hesitation in stating , notwithstanding the friendly cheer with which his Right Hon . friend ' s announcement had been greeted , that he might , consistently with precedent , object to the first reading of ihe "bill . He had himself objected to fhe first reading of such a _biB upon every occasion when it was introduced . Xn recent times at least the ordinary courtesy of that house had been to give a first reading to aU bills sent _iSown from the other House , although during the last thirty years there were three excepted cases . He should not object to the first reading . On the motion of Sir R . Peel , the biU was then read a first time . , The second reading was fixed for Monday , the 7 th of April .

      POOB I . AWS IN SCOTLAND . LordDiUiEHY wished to ask a question of the Right Bon . Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home Department , with reference to the Poor Law in Scotland . No doubt the House would recollect that a short time ago ne had asked the Right hon . Baronet whether it was ihe intention ofthe Government to propose this session to Parliament any legislative measure for the amendment or alteration of the Poor Laws in Scotland ? To that question the Right Hon . Baronet returned an answer couched ia very courteous , hut not very definite terms . He now , therefore , wished to renew the question , and to ask whether it was the intention of fhe Government lo propose this session any legislative measure for the alteration or amendment of the Poor Law in Scotland , and , if such were their intention , at what period of the session they would lay their measure on fhe table of the House ?

      - > Sir J .. Gsahah . —Notwithstanding the multiplicity of business which has pressed on the attention of myself and my colleagues since the commencement of this session , I can assure the Noble Lord that the important subject to " which his question refers has not been overlooked by her _Kri-M _^ s _^ t- _^' enimeiif _, and I would take the _liberty of i Suggesting-to the Noble Lord and the House that the in-! i ierrali of- lie Bister recess may still he given to ns before ' _^ ' _* «* _tn-n- ' a' definitive answer to his question . I wiU undertake on the first day after the Easter recess that either Ior the Lord-Advocate of Scotland wiR announce defini-¦ fively the course that will he taken . b y the Gorernment . .. { hear , hear . ) And now , seeing my Noble Friend the _ipfopb _& _to _& _lhyrsetihtte in hia place , and observing that I _^ T _^ _T " _hnpwtant hill stands for a second reading on _"Wed"toa & y hl _^ _J-iuAmely , tll & tmtrc _^ ucedty fhe Nolle Lord K'S _™^ erence to persons employed in calico prlntworkg , - _"• • _'S _^ _T _*?* - _^ _&* ¦ * _Whether my Noble Friend- _^ considermg _? ' _^|^^ _V « _fl ordered , to be printed on the 12 th inst ., « ianasheeniuthelian-ls of manners only three or four

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      days recoUecting also the great importance ofthe subject and the interests involved in the determination of the llouse—whether he has any objection to postpone the second reading till after Easter « Lord Ashlet . —I was most anxious , both for the sake of those gentlemen who are concorned in this busiuess , and also of the persons engaged in it , that the question should be brought to an issue as soon as possible , lest hopes should be excited only tobe afterwards disappointed . But having heard from the Right Hon . Baronet that the and that

      Government have not yet made up their minds , for considerations of public convenienceWcdncsday should be given up to them , I shall not hesitate to postpone the biU tiU after Easter . I shall defer the second reading of the bill till Wednesday , thc 2 nd of April ; hut perhaps I may be alloived now to observe tliat 1 am astonished her Majesty's Government should hesitate to affirm the principle , and the principle only , of such a measure as that , which goes no further than to l imit the labour of chddrcn under thirteen years of age below a period of sometimes thirty-six consecutive hours . ( Hear , hear . )

      scotch bahemc srsTJ-sr . Mr . Duff asked whether the Rig ht Hon . Baronet ( Sir R Peel ) was willing to _gire any intimation , before tiie holidays , of his plan for the rcvisal ofthe system of bankin" in Scotland , as the idea of a charge on so important a matter had created considerable excitement in that country , and a full opportunity of considering it would be verv desirable . Sir It . Pixi . felt bound , with respect to the measures connected Avith the banks in Scotland and Ireland , to defer the explanation of them until the period of introducing the biU . This should be done at as early a period as possible . He was quite aware of the importance of the question , but it was impossible to fix a time until the financial measures had made further progress .

      THE WISH MEASUBE 8 . Mr . Bellew inquired in what order the expected measures relating to Ireland would be brought forward ? Sir R . Peel . —The first two measures relating to Ireland to which the Government propose to caU the attention of the House will be a bill relating to the College of Maynooth , and a bill for extending academical education in Ireland . I dare say that these , with the other measures that must be brought forward , will occupy some time ; but I will , after the recess , state in what order I propose to take the other bills .

      THE _IBISH LAND COMMISSION , Captain Uebnal Osbobne asked whether the Government intended to found any legislative measure this session upon the Landlord and Tenant Report ? Sir R . Peel replied , that her Majesty's Ministers had the subject under consideration at present , and were making as much progress with it as they could ; hut the evidence had not long been in their possession . He hoped to lay upon the table some measure connected with that report . Lord J . Russell inquired whether any such measure would be introduced by a member of the commission , or by the Government ? Sir R . Peel was not prepared to say ; but , of course , it Avas highly probable that , if a measure should be brought into the other House by the Noble Lord at the head of the commission , it would be with the entire sanction of the Government , though it was obvious that he could not pledge himself to this .

      ST . JAMES ' S PARK . Mr . Wakley having received a communication from a gentleman of great respectability , referring to a transaction he witnessed in St . James ' s-park , wished to ask whether . the gate-keepers were instructed to prevent working people from going through in their working dress 1 It was right to add , that the gate-keeper on that occasion produced _ivrittcn instructions to this eflect . The Earl of Lincoln said that such instructions were at one time giren to the gate-keepers , but two or three years ago he ( Lord Lincoln ) instructed them not to act upon them , except in cases where persons in their working dresses were intoxicated , or otherwise unfit to be admitted _, ( hear . )

      THE AGRICULTURAL INTEREST . On the order of the day for the llouse going into committee on the Customs Act , Mr . Miles rose to bring forward the motion of which ho had given notice : — " That it is the opinion of this house that in the application of surplus revenue towards relieving the burdens of the country , by reduction or remission of taxation , due regard should be had to thc necessity of affording relief to the agricultural interest . " He asserted that agricultural distress ivas not local , but general , and that it did not arise from any unfortunate vicissitudes ofthe seasons , but from the erroneous legislation of the present Parliament . He showed , that under the existing Corn Law , there had been an importation of foreign wheat during the last thirty-two months seven or eight tiroes greater in amount than in the thirty-six

      months immediately subsequent to the introduction of the Corn Law of 1 S 28 ; and argued that the British fanner had suffered great loss from this competition of foreign wheat with his own produce . During the same period , too , there had been a great decline in the price of every kind of meat in Leadenhall , Smithfield , aud Newgate markets ; and the importation of foreign cattle , though it was small in comparison with what was originally expected , had increased , was increasing , and would increase still more considerably in a few years . He had supported the' present Corn Law when it was originally introduced ; but i £ he and the other friends of the agricultural interest had fancied at that time that the Corn Law would be followed up , first hy the tariff , and afterwards by the Canada Corn Bill , he thought that they could have raised a resistance to it which uo Minister would have

      found , it possible to overcome . To these _nwasuves the farmers attributed their present distress , but they complained also of the amount of the poor ' s and county rates ; and insisted that in those two instances they were taxed more heavily than the rest of the community . He complained , too , of the rent-charge under the Tithe Commutation Act : it had been calculated on an average of 51 s . a quarter , whereas they werc nowgetting only 43 s . a quarter for their wheat . He then suggested several measures , which he conceived would either remove or alleviate the causes of those complaints ; hut the principal was a measure for transferring from the county-rates to the Exchequer the whole expense of aU trials before the Judges of the Assize , and of supporting and maintaining all persons committed to thc county gaols for felony and

      misdemeanour , and of all persons committed on sueh charges ; and half thc expense of aU prosecutions at the quarter sessions , leaving the other half , as at present , to be paid out of the county-rates . He also proposed that half the expense of coroner s inquests , and that of printing every year the registry of county voters , should be transferred to the same publie fund . On a former night he had stated that the total amount thus transferred would be £ 400 , 000 , but he had since seen reason to correct that statement , and he now believed that it would not he more than £ 300 , 000 . Now , as the landlords and tenantry contributed greatly to the property tax , hy which the present surplus of revenue - was obtained , he thought that he had ' a right to ask the Government to make to the agricultural interest this remission of taxation . He assured it that the agricultural

      body had no confidence in the measures which it proposed . They thought that anything would be better than their present position . They saw that the tariff which was passed three years ago , was now going to be revised again , and that thc shield of protection which waa then _throivn over some of the productions of their industry , was about to be removed still further from them . Under such circumstances , they could not refrain from asking themselves what there was to prevent the Corn Laws from going next ? He concluded by stating that this motion was not made with the general assent ofthe agricultural interest ; but he had acted up to his own principles , that protection must be diffused not only over agriculture , hut also over many other branches of native industry .

      The Earl of _Mabcu , in seconding the amendment , declared his entire concurrence in the sentiments just expressed by Mr . Miles . Sir James Gbaham announced the intention of Government to resist this motion . The grounds which Mr . Miles had laid down for its support were rather reasons for repealing the existing Corn Laws , and for reconsidering tliat portion ofthe tariff of 1842 which was not affected hy the tariff which would shortly be under the consideration ofthe house . Mr . Miles had accused the Government of doing tardy justice to the agriculturists . He defended the Government from that charge , and took an historical review of its financial measures , from its first entry into office down to the present day . He showed that in that time it had remitted taxes to the amount of £ 6 , 304 , 000 ,

      which it had supplied by the imposition of the income-tax , from which all persons whose income was less than £ 150 a-year were exempt ; and then went on to contend that from that large remission of taxation the agricultural interest had reaped great benefit , in common with aU the rest of the community . He controverted Mr . Miles ' s position that the distress of the agricultural interest was not local but general throughout the United Kingdom . He asserted that in Ireland the last year had been a year of unexampled agricultural prosperity * , and he spoke from his own knowledge , when he said that in Scotland and in the north of England agriculture was not in distress , but prosperous and improving . He reminded Mr . Miles that the last three years , during which that importation of foreign wheat had taken place of whieh he complained ,

      were years of defective production in these kingdoms , and asked him to consider in what state the country would have been supposing there had been no importation . So far from being sorry that a progressive increase of importation had occurred , he considered it eminently advantageous ; for with the rapidincrease of our population many years would netpaS 9 away without the occurrence of some frightful convulsion , if they were to persist in refusing admission to foreign corn . Ho defended the tariff of 1842 and the Canada Corn Bill , which he considered as a most useful auxiliary to the present Corn L & av . He showed that the decline in the price of meat iu Newgate , Smithfield , and Leadenhall markets was not owing

      to the importatien of foreign cattle into this country , but to the general depression of trade throughout the country , and to the low rate of wages in the manufacturing and metropolitan districts ; and argued that the landed interest had no right to claim relief from the burden of the poor-rates on account of causes connected with thegener & l distress ' of the country . ' _* ' He showed that in 1813 , when the population was only ten millions and a half , the amount levied for poor and county rates was 16 s . 5 d . a head upon' tho whole population of England and Wales ; and that now , when the population was sixteen millions and a half , it was reduced to 8 s . 3 d ; ahead . ; He then turned toi the reme ' _diesproposed by Mr . ' Miles , and said thathe had an insuperable olioction to the hon . Member ' s

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      main proposition , to transfer the whole cost of prosecutions at assizes from the county rates to the public purse . It was true that such a proposition had been made by a committee of that house in 1834 , but- the Executive Government of that day had refused to carry it into effect , and had amended it by proposing that only one half oi that expense should be borne by the public' By such a measure persons having a local interest in the saving of the county expenditure had the means of checking prodigality of expenditure in instituting and conducting criminal prosecutions , lie thought that the present arrangement was at once just , prudent , and liberal , and therefore he should not be a party to any departure from it . Mr . Miles had stated that his proposition was not a new one . ; it certainly was an old acquaintance of is , and he ( Sir J . Graham ) had voted against if in 1834 and in 1836 , and should now , as before , givo it his most decided opposition . The landed interest derived a certain protection on account of these burdens , and he was of opinion that it ought not to attempt to throw them off . .

      Mr . Newmgate rejoiced at the results which the Right non . Baronet described as having been produced by the income tax ; but he thought the Right Hon . Baronet had rather set aside than dealt with the facts of his Hon . Friend the Member for Somersetshire , that the agricultural interest had , beyond all doubt , suffered materially since 1842 . He thought each member was bound not to forget the interests of those Avhoin ho represented in Parliament , and that he ought not to be contented to hear his constituents told that they were ' to be indirectly benefitted by thc measures of the Government , while positive boons were granted to other classes of tho community . One might tliink that the Hon . Member for Stockport ( Mr . Cobden ) was the high priest of Free Trade , and that the

      occupants ofthe Treasury bench _ivore chanting responses to the service . ( A laugh . ) The hon . Member proceeded to state that he did not agree with the Noblo Lord thc Member for the City of London , that" protection was the bane of agriculture . " He waa of opinion that ono ofthe causes of the existing distress was the monetary system of this country . He must express his firm conviction that the Right Hon . Baronet ( Sir J . Graham ) had not disproved the statements made hy tho Hon . Member for Somersetshire ; but he believed that the tone of the speech of the Right hon . Baronet and the fact of the Noble Lord the Chief Commissioner of Woods and Forests being engaged in considering a subject so deeply interesting to agriculture , would have a most beneficial effect . ( Hear . ) . '

      Lord John Russell observed , that if his expression that protection was the bane of agriculture required airy justification , that justification was found in what had occurred that evening in the House . Mr . Miles ' had mentioned the various measures by which the system of protection had been broken down ; and had enumerated among them the Corn Law of 1842 , the tariff of the same year , and the Canadian Corn Bill of 1843 ; and yet he had not proposod the repeal of any one of those laws , . but had merely proposed that some £ 350 , 000 should be taken off the county-rates , and should be paid by the Exchequer . Mr . Newdigate had then told them that the speech of Sir J . Graham would be highly consolatory to the agricultural interests . And Avhy ? Because he proposed tb adopt some additional protection ? No such thing , biit because he was anxious to give progressive facilities for

      the importation of foreign commodities . Those two speeches showed that protection ivas the bane of agriculture ; and if any further proof of it was wanted , it was supplied by tlic admirable and powerful speech oi Mr . Cobden on a former evening . The Noble Lord then entered into an historical review of the Corn Laws since 1815 , for the purpose of showing tliat each successive law diminished protection more than its predecessor , and that those fov whose benefit they were enacted were among the first to complain of the injury which was thus inflicted upon them . He showed that the very Ministers who had been brought into power to maintain agricultural protection , had felt it to be their duty to break it down ; and argued that it behoved the House , warned by the experience of the past , to induce the farmer to look , not to the law for protection , but to his own energy , activity , anil increased science for the moans of meeting the difficulty

      of his position . He then quoted the opinion of Mr . Baring , now Lord Ashburton , for the purpose of showing that it is contrary to sound policy to advance any interest beyond its natural means , and still more so at the expense of others . He thought that the gentlemen who had voted for the Corn Law of 1842 would have much reason to regret the support which they gave to that bill . He had voted himself against that measure , but it hail been carried by the representatives for agricultural comities . They had , therefore , no right to say that they were ill-used , as they had assisted the Government to carry out its policy . The present state of things had a tendency tb place the landed aristocracy of the country in an odious position . He therefore implored them to make such an arrangement of this question between all parties as would enable the people of England to see , that if the lauded aristocracy was the most powerful , it was also the most generous portion of the community .

      Mr . B . Escott was sorry that Mr . Miles had intercepted by his motion thc very important commercial resolutions which would otherwise have been submitted to the House that evening . Mr . Miles now asked for the repeal of the county-rate as the best means of relieving the distress of agriculture . Had Mr , Miles forgotten who it was that imposed the county-rates ? Why , 'it was Mr . Miles himself , and the very gentlemen who were UOW ready to vote with him . The real motive of tliis motion was the discontent of the farmers with their representatives in that House . He had heard reasons why the farmers should be discontented . He pointed out tho inconsistency of Mr . Miles and his friends in issuing circulars calling on the farmers to unite their energies to repeal the Corn Law and the tariff , and iu calling , nevertheless , on members of that House to stick to that tariff and to that Cora Laiv , ivhieh they represented elsewhere as the sole cause of distress . He thou defended the budget of 1842 and 1845 , and declaved his intention , of voting against the motion .

      Lord AVoksley was of opiniou that the agricultural distress had not just begun now , but two or three years ago . It was now , however , so severe that it compelled the farmers to speak out . He had not voted for the inquiry proposed by Mr . Cobden on a former night , because he conceived it calculated to delude thc people , but he should vote for this motion , because its object was clear , and the people could understand it . ' Mr . _D'IsbaeiiI . — "When I ineffectually attempted , Sir , to catch your eye , after thc conclusion of the speech : of the Noble Lord the Member for London , I would then have presumed to offer some considerations to the House pn the question respecting protection to native iudustry , which that Noble Lord mooted ; but such considerations I cannot presume to offer at the present hour of the night ; and therefore I am afraid I must restrict myself to that

      principle of discussion laid doAvn by my Hon , Friend tiie Member for -Winchester , and confine myself strictly : to the motion before the House . But , watching , as we all must do , with great interest , the formation ofthe character of an individual so eminent as the . Noble Lord , who has been , as he Informed us to-ni g ht , thirty years in this House , but * appears not yet to have arrived at a result jon the great questions which now interest the country , I , who would not presume to place my opinions , formed on much more recent experience than those of the Noble Lord , against his , may yet be permitted , to say that , after all , one truth , I tliink , is perhaps evident from these discussions , —that protection , is not a principle , but . an expedient . If it be the latter , it must depend on circumstances , and , if it depend on circumstances , tho matter cannot be settled by those quotations of abstract dogmas

      which have been cited b y the . Noble , Lord , nowever _, jwe shall all have ample opportunity to discuss this great question , which is now the question of the age . and of the country . By our speeches or by our votes , either in this nouse or at the hustings , sooner or later , jwe must come to the test on this great question , " Will you have protection or will you have , not free trade , for that is not the alternative , but free . imports !" ( Hear , hear , hear , ) I cannot forget the _spejech recently delivered by the Hon . Member for Stockpprt . That , indeed , is not easily to he forgotten by any one who listened to it . I wiU not , therefore , say that there is much more to be said on both sides of this question than we have yet been favoured with ; but I will say , with ( the greatest respect to those' Hon . Gentlemen whom I-see near me , that I do believe that there is much more to be

      said on one side ofthe question than has yet been offered to the nouse . ( Hear , hear . ) I shall not presume , however , to euter into the question at present . If , indeed , I held the position of some who at such an hour as this might rise , but who , however anxiously expected , yejtdo not favour us with their observation —( Hear , and a laugh ) , I might venture to enter a field so vast ; but I may bo permitted to say , that before we come to settle this greet question , we must grapple with that great point of war against hostile tariffs . "We must ascertain how far free imports would affect wages and prices in this country ; how far these again would operate on the distribution of the precious metals ; and how far a pew distribution of the precious metals would affect your power of maintaining your standard of value . Ianinot offering these observations in a controversial tone to ! the

      TT / _111 Ofl _l-tlll nm _mnunl .. ! _i . J !« . l !__ At . _* i 1 _ A ! . House , but am merely indicating that before we come to that question , which must be settled , there are great [ considerations which must be entered into in an _uninjpassioned _, and , I trust , in a searching manner . ( Hear , hear . ) But I now come to the question before the House —the question which the Hon . Member for "Winchester , who advocated with such fervour and ability ( a laugh ) his opposition to this motion , wishes the present ! discussion to bo narrowed to . I will meet him oa the ground he has chosen . AVe have a motion , the terms of which are familiar to every gentleman ' present—it is , to take into consideration , in the distribution of the surplus revenue , the claims of the agricultural interest . This is not a new motion . It has been introduced to this House before , when Hon . Gentlemen now on this ( the Ministerial ) side of Que House were in opposition . ( Hear , hear . )

      Under identical circumstances a similar motion was ! then proposed . What took place under' those circumstances ought to be some guide to us as to the result ofthe present motion . The motion brought forward at the time I am now referring to was the motion not of a triumphant but bf a powerful Opposition—an Opposition distinguished by the quality of cohesion ; ( Hear ; hear , ' and a laugh . ) : In 1836 a powerful Opposition , wishing to try a'fall with , I will not say a feeble , but ; at ; any rate , ' a ' not' confident Government , selected this motion as ai point of battle on which contendingparties might try tlieir force ' - The' motion was proposed by a Noble Friend of mine , who is ; now a Member of the other House , * _—the'Noble Lord the ithen Member for Buckinghamshire ( hear , hear ) : arid , after a discussion , not of very greatflength _, a division took place , which did not shake the Government to the centre : but

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      made it tremble , ( Hear , hear . ) In 1836 the majority was not much above thirty in favour ofthe Administration on a vital question . The motion was identical ; IbeUevethe phraseology of it was identical with the present motion ; and I should suppose , therefore , thatthe Hon . Member for Somersetshire must have reckoned , in bringing forward a motion which , on a previous occasion , had united together a great number of supporters , many with distinguished names , on a successful issue to his proposition to-night . ( Hear . ) I cannot doubt that the Hon . Member for . Somersetshire , looking to the list embalmed in those records to which we all appeal , and reading the names of those who voted in 1836 Avith my Noble Friend , must not only have anticipated equal but even greater success , for this is a Conservative House of Commons , T , . _, _„„•„ _,.,,,

      and tho other was a Whi g llouse of Commons . ( Hear . ) The non . Member must have reckoned on receiving a commanding support in bringing forward this motion . There is the Right Hon . Gentleman the Secretary for Ireland ( Sir T . Fromantle)—he had voted under similar circumstances for an identical motion . ( Hear . ) Iknow the Right Hon . Gentleman too well for a moment to doubt that he will vote the same way to-night .- ( Great laughter . ) At the time to ivhieh I am alluding , 1836 , there was a budget , and there was a surplus , and the agricultural interest came forward and said , " Are we not to be considered ? " The Right Hon . Gentleman the Secretary for Ireland thought that they ought to be considered , aud t am not at aU surprised at it , as he has always been a friend to agriculture . ( Cheers and

      laughter . ) I remember having had the honour of meeting the Right Hon . Gentleman in the presence of his constituents . I cannot forget the occurrence , because the president of the meeting happened to be the noble individual who made the motion I have spoken of in 1836 ( "Hear , hear , " and a laugh ) * , and I remember the speech wliich the Right Hon . Gentleman then made . Those wero "dreary moments" —days of opposition , when there was no chance of getting into power unless you were borne forward by an agricultural cry . ( Cheers and laughter . ) I knoAv the feelings of the constituency of Buckingham . They were satisfied , and justly so , with so accomplished a representative _; they were satisfied Avith his sympathy in opposi . tion ; and they knew when he got into power they would have a friend on whom they could count . ( Laughter . )

      I should like to know if the constituency of Buckingham had been told that a resolution would be brought forward , at a later period than 1836 , similar in its nature to the motion of 1836 , and that then their representative , being then a Minister , would be found to vote against it , they would have believed such a tale 1 Of course they would not ; aud of course the Right hon . Gentleman the Secretary for Ireland will not vote against this motion to-night . ( Great laughter . ) The noble individual ( the Duke of Buckingham ) who presided at the dinner to which I have referred , could not , I am sure , suppose for one moment that the Right hon . Gentleman would vote against the motion , for that noble individual , finding that the policy ofthe Government Avas contrary to that policy ivhieh ho had advocated in Opposition , quitted office . ( Loud

      cheers . ) Therefore I think we may count on the Right hon . Gentleman the Secretary for Ireland supporting this motion to-night . ( Cheers and laughter . ) I do not think that we need despair of the support of the Vice-President ofthe Board of Trade ( laughter )—Sir G . Clerk , for he also supported a similar motion under similar circumstances , ( Cheers and laughter , ) In 1836 , there being a budget and a surplus , the Right Hon . Gentleman the Member for Stamford conceived that the agricultural interest , of wliich he was the champion , had a right to be considered . No doubt he , too , will now vote in favour of the present motion . ( Renewedla _, ughter . ) There is also a Noble Lord , the Member for a division of Nottinghamshire ( Lord Lincoln ) , no less a person , indeed , than a member of the Cabinet . He was also of opinion in

      Opposition , and at that time , that if there were a surplus the agricultural interest should be considered . If the Noble Lord was of that opinion when in Opposition , of course , now that he is a member of the Government—a Government brought into existence by the agricultural interesthe will divide in favour ofthe present motion . ( Cheers . ) I believe I might pick up a few Lords ' of the Treasury , but I will let tliem pass : I must not omit , however , tho Gallant Officer the Clerk of the Ordnance ( Captain Bolderoj , the member for Chippenham , a district so distinguished for its agricultural feeling . All these gentlemen the Hon . Member for Somersetshire surely counted on when he entered the House to-night . ( Loud laughter . ) It is , however , but just to state ( and I am sure that all the agricultural constituencies from Buckingham to

      Chippenham ivill feel doubly grateful for it , when they read the division list to-morrow and find that their representatives werc present)—it is , I repeat , but right to state that the Right Hon . Gentleman at the head ofthe Go _\* ernment was , on the occasion I have referred to , of a different opinion from those other Hon . Gentlemen whom I have mentioned . ( Hear , hear . ) He acted in a different manner with respect to that motion ; on thc division he went into the Whig lobby alone of all his party , whom he left united in favour of the motion . The Right non . Baronet did behave throughout in the most handsome manner . ( Laughter . ) He expressed no annoyance at the indiscreet effort of his party , wliich had almost made liim a Minister ( great laughter ); he did not give them a lecture ; he did not say , notwithstanding that they went into a different

      division-lobby from their leader , they had broken out into open rebellion . ( Cheers and laughter , ) The Right Hon . Baronet preserved his consistency , and kept on the very best terms with his party . ( Cheers and laughter . ) That being the state of the case , I have uo doubt the Right Hon . Gentleman will vote against thc motion to-night ; following the precedent of that time he will treat his immediate supporters with thc same affability as he did before . ( Laughter . ) These are facts . ( Hear , hear . ) We way quote Hansard by the line to prove them . They are facts so notorious , and so fresh iu the memory of every Gentleman , that it is unnecessary to repeat them . This is sticking to the question , as the Hon . Member for Winchester requires . ( Loud cheering and laughter . ) I entirely differ from my agricultural friends around me , though

      I make those observations in their view of the conduct ofthe Right Hon . Gentleman ; nothing is more easy , when your constituents are dissatisfied , than yoursclvos to grumble against the Right Hon . Gentleman . I believe the Right Hon . Gentleman has done more tor agriculture than any Minister or Government has done for a quarter of a century . That is my calm , deliberate opinion ; and , placed as I am in a momentary collision with the Treasury bench , I am bound to make this admission . ( Hear , hear . ) "Hear ! hear ! " as the Hon . Member says ; I am sincerely prepared to maintain that cheer . Why , what has the Right Hon . Gentleman not done for agriculture ? Before the meeting of Parliament the Right Hon . Gentleman reconstructed his Cabinet , and left out the Minister of Trade , ( Loud cheersandlaughter . ) Therewasagreatcompliment

      to agriculture ! ( Great laughter . ) The agriculturists , then , ought to be satisfied .- They complain of the Right Hon . Gentleman . It is not that they want this tax taken off or this act to be done , but they complain of his conduct : no _dohbt they have reason . It is the old story of the contrast between the hours of courtship and the years of possession . ( Cheers and laughter . ) There is , they say , a difference in the conduct of the Right Hon . Gentleman . I remember him making his protection speeches . They were the best I ever heard . It was a great thing to see him rise and hear him . say , that he would sooner be leader of the gentlemen of England than possess the confidence of sovereigns . That was a grand thing , ( Renewed cheers and repeated laughter . ) We don't hear much of the gentlemen of England

      now . ( Great cheering . ) What of that ? They have the pleasures of _memory , the charms of reminiscence . ( Laughtor . ) They were his first love , and though he may not kneel to them _noiv as in the hour of passion , still they can recall the past ; and nothing is more useless and unwise than these scenes of crimination and reproach , for we know that in all these cases , when the beloved object has ceased to charm , it is in vain to appeal tothe feelings . ( Great laughter . ) You know that this is true . Every man almost has gone through it . My Hon . Friends reproach thc Right Hon . Gentleman . He tries to keep them quiet . They persist . He must take refuge in arrogant reserve and haughty frigidity . ' Will they go on ?—what happens 1 What happens under all such circumstances 1 Tho Right Hon . Gentleman interferes no more . He sends down his valet , who says in the genteelest mannor , "Wc can have ho whining here . " ( Cheers and

      laughter . ) Now , sir , that is the case of the great agricultural interest ( renewed laughter ) , —that beauty whom every one _ivooed , and that one deluded . ( Continued laughter . ) We are now arrived at the catastrophe . Protection seems to be in about the same condition as Protestantism in 1828 . ( Cheers and laughter , ) The country may moralise onthe result . For my part , if we are to have free trade , I would sooner have the measures carried by a mau of genius like the Member for Stockport , than by any person , however skilful in Parliamentary manoeuvres , and who has tampered with the generous feelings of a great party and a great nation , ( Loud cheering . ) I care not what may be the consequences . Dissolve , if you please , the Parliament you have betrayed , and appeal to the people , who , I believe , mistrust you . I shall publicly express my belief that a Conservative Government is an organised hypocrisy . ( The Hon . Gentleman resumed his seat amid loud and prolonged cheerinc ; . )

      Mr . Darbt ( who spoke from a remote seat under the gallery , and was almost inaudible ) was understood to censure the conduct pursued by the Hon . Member for Shrews _, bury , and to assure him that , however he might amuse the House by liis personalities , he would not gain much respeet . He accused the Hon . Member bf inconsistency , and observed , that while he charged the Right Hon . Baronet with having caught the Whhjs bathing and Steal _, ing their clothes , he had himself found not the Whigs , but the Radicals bathing , and had taken up the profitless calling of hawking their old clothes . ( Laughter and cheers . ) He defended the present Administration , an < £ excused them for not doing more than they had done for the agricultual interest on the ground of the difficulties in which the country had heen left by the Whi g Government .

      Mr . Smythe had not the remotest intention of intruding himself , especially at such an hour , upon the House had it not been for that severe , and crushing , and mas ! terly reply of tho Hon . Gentleman the Member for Susgex- ( laughter ) -to the speech of his Hon . - Friend the Member for Shrewsbury-net delivered' that evening , but delivered some fortnight : before ~( _hear ; hear ) ; : and re . membering how Gentlemen had been taunted with preparation even when they had no opportunity of _speaki ' ng _, he thought he . was not without justificatiou-in rising to answer the speech of the Hon ' , and Learned _Ctentlemanthat effective and _^ severe philippic against his Hon . Friends around him . . ( Hear , ' hear , and cheers : ) Far be it from hhn ( Mr ; Smythe ) to interfere in that schism which had manifested itself that evening on this grea tagncultural question , supported or _opposed in

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      such various ways by the different agricultural members far be it from him to mingle in the debate whicli was begun on behalf of the agricultural interests in so spirited a speech by the Noble Lord the Member for Sussex , and continued in so spiritless a speech by the Hon . Gentleman also the Member for Sussex—far be it from him to mingle in such vexed matters ; but he would tell the Hon . and Learned Gentleman this—that it was not b y raking amongst hustings speeches—it was not hy going back fifteen years , and telling his lion . Friend that he then entertained particular opinions—though he suspected that if the Hon . and Learned Gentleman would take the trouble to look , he would not find that they were very different from ihe opinions his Hon . Friend entertained at that moment . ( Hear , hear . ) The hou . and Gallant Officer su ( . i , various ways by the different agricultural members

      of the Ordnance liad done him tho honour to cheer that remark , —he would recall to the hon . and Gallant Officer his vote on the Irish Registration Bill , and should like to know how he would vote now if an Irish Registration Bill were brought forward by the Government ( hear , hear ) or how the vote he gave some time back would tally with the vote he would give on a subject that would shortly agitate the public mind—the further grant to the CoUege of Maynooth . ( Hear , hear . ) He should like to know how the hon . and Gallant Officer would vote then . ( Hear , hear . ) He would venture further to tell the hon . and Learned Gentleman that this national question , if not solved by that great agricultural mind to which the hon . Member for Wolverhampton had made so happy au allusion—if it _ivere not solved by the attention they might

      give to the subject , it would never be solved by the great parochial mind of England . ( Hear , hear . ) And now he would simply state this—that , differing as he might from his Hon . Friend in the vote to whicli he might come that evening—and differing as he did from the lion . Gentleman _ivlio brought forward the motion , ho could not withhold his opinion that a speech , such as that of his Hon . Friend , would be far more likely to be productive of public good than the motion of the hon . Gentleman , That motion , at the best , went to this result , that it was a great thing to bring the state of the country before the House ( hear , hear ) ; but it would be a far greater thing , and one productive of far more real good at thi ? roomeut , and these times , to bring the state of tiie House before the country . ( Cheers . )

      Sir R . Peel explained the grounds on which he was compelled to resist this motion . If its object ivere merely to transfer a sum of money from the county rates to the consolidated fund , then they would be deluding the agricultural interest by leading it to believe that such a transfer would be for its benefit . But if its object were to condemn the financial scheme of the Government , as he iuferrcd that it was from a circular issued by the Central Protection Society , then he had additional reasons for opposing it- Whether , then , he looked at this motion upon the grounds laid down by Mr . Miles , or . whelher he looked at it upon the grounds put forth by the Protection

      Society , he could not acquiesce in it . He had never repented of the course pursued by Ministers since their accession to office . He described the lamentable condition hi which he found thc country when he was appointed Prime Minister in 1841 , and compared it with its condition at the present moment . He took office , not with the intention of supporting any partial interests , but of taking a comprehensive view of the interests of all classes . He believed that in 1 S 42 it was for the interest of agriculture itself that something should be done to revive the then depressed condition of thc manufacturing districts . What had been then done had been

      completely successful , and its effects were visible in the present improvement of the country . Referring to the speech of Mr D'lsraeli , he observed that he should oppose this motion in 1845 on the same grounds on which he . opposed it in 1836 . He had then thought , and he thought still , that it held out hopes that must be delusive . He had differed in 1836 from the party with which he usuaUy acted , and had told them that there was no tax bearing on agriculture , save the malt tax , which they could remove with advantage to that interest . That was his opinion then , and it was the same now . He would not enter into the question of agricultural protection , for it was not raised at present ; but it would be raised on the motion of Mr . _Villcr ' s on a raturc evening , and he would then say why he thought that the Corn Laws should not

      be abolished . He would not say that agricultural protection should not be reduced indirectly by the tariff , as , for instance , in such articles as lard , grease , ike . He believed tho system of prohibition and extreme protection to be wrong , and he should pursue the course which he had hitherto done Avith respect to all such questions . Sir Robert Peel concluded his speech as follows : —Sir , we are now taunted by one side of the House with having seriously injured agriculture by the inconsiderate haste with wliich the protection to agriculture has been reduced ; on the other side we are taunted with being mere instruments in the hands of the agricultural party , and we are told that we ought at once to proccodto the removal of all protection . Sir , it is our intention to pursue the course whicli we have hitherto pursued , and not to yield

      to the taunt either oi one party or the other . ( Hear , hear . ) We have attempted gradually to abolish prohibitory duties ; ire have attempted gradually to relax extreme protective duties ; in my opinion , we have done it with the best success . ( Hear , hear . ) I look to the general result ; I look to the position of this country now , and compare it with that in whieh we found it ; and I say that we are amply justified in the course which we have pursued , and encouraged to persevere in it . ( Cheers . ) Sir , the Hon . Gentleman tho Member for Shrewsbury ( Mr . D'lsraeli ) repeats an accusation which he has made upon former ocensions , of our having purchased power by a fbrgetfulness and neglect of the pledges which we gave in Opposition . As I stated before , I shall not enter into personal controversies , ( Cheers . ) When I proposed the tariff in 1842 , and when that charge which the Hon . Gentleman now makes was made at that period , I find an Hon . Gentleman getting up in his place , and stating "that , with reference to the accusation made on the other side of

      the House , that the Right Hon . Baronet at the head of the Government had repudiated principles in Opposition which he had adopted when in office , that charge had been made _Avithout due examination of the facts of the ease . " I find tho same Hon . Gentleman also stating , "that thc conduct pursued by the Right Hon . Baronet was in exact harmony , in perfect consistency , with the principles in reference to free trade , laid down by Mr . Pitt ; and his reason for saying thus much was to refute the accusations which were brought against the present Government , that in order to get into , and , being in , to keep office , they had changed their opinions on that subject . " Those sentiments are attributed to the Hon . Member for Shrewsbury . ( Cheers . ) It is of little importance tothe House that I hold in the same estimation the panegyric and the attack ( cheers ); hut I certainly am surprised , remembering that address ofthe Hon . Gentleman , that the accusation which he has made to-night should have proceeded from him . ( Renewed cheers . )

      Mr , Bankes said , that the course which the Ri ght Hon . Baronet thought the better oue to pursue , was precisely the course which it was his own intention to adopt , namely , to resist a part of the Right Hon . Gentleman ' s financial proposition , and to propose , that instead of remitting one of the taxes he had proposed to remit , relief should be given to the agricultural interest . He ( Mr . Bankes ) was now informed that a part of the measure could not take place until after Easter ; and , therefore , until that time , he ivould postpone the observations he had to make . He then hoped to be able to convince his Itiglit Hon . Friend that in remitting that particular tax to which the attention of the House had been directed , he would give relief to that class of persons whom the ConsoUdated Fund did not touch , and that , consequently , there was a mode of relieving the lower classes , with a just and due regard to the agricultural interest , ( Hear , hear . )

      After a few remarks from Captain Harris and Mr . Plumptre _, the House divided , when there appeared for the motion—Ayes 78 Noes 213 Majority * against it r—135 . The Speaker then left the chair , and the House resolved itself _iuto . a Committee ou the Customs Acts , Sir R . Peel moved that the duty on certain articles in thc tariff , a list of which was prepared , should be abolished . Thc Chairman then proceeded to read through this list . On arriving at the article " basket rods "

      Mr . Milnes said , that willows were very extensively cultivated . in this country , aud that a large capital was invested in their growth . Every gentleman who lived near the banks of any river know that the osier cultivation was very largely carried on by small proprietors , and that four or five years were required to bring the growth to perfection . If " basket rods" were admitted free from duty , the osiers of Holland would entirely take away this cultivation . Sir R . Peel said , that the same objection might be made to almost every other article ; there was alum , for instance . He must object to any alteration of thc proposed remission of duty . Mr . Fekband corroborated the statement of Mr . Milnes . The Chairman then read the article "basket rods " and proceeded down the list to " bones " '

      Captain Pecheli . hoped , that if additional facilities were given to the introduction of hones , they would uot bo sent to the Avorkhouses to be ground . After a few words on the importation cf " furniture wood , " the list was proceeded with . On coming to the article of "butter , " Mr . E wabt said , that he should reserve the amendment he had given notice of respecting the duties on butter and cheese to a later stage . He was entirely hostile to imposing a duty on such articles as these . On the article " grease" being read , Mr . W . Miles said , he objected to the removal of this duty ; but he thought the better course would be to go through those articles to which there ivas no objection , and to postpone to a future day those on which any discussion might arise .

      Sir G . Clebk said this "grease" was butter which was unfit for human food , in consequence of being mixed with tar or other substances , and was only fit for feeding dogs . Mr . _BniGHTwas surprised that the Hon . Member for Somersetshire ( Mr . Miles ) , who was so staunch a supporter ofthe agricultural interest , did not object to the removal ofthe duty on chalk , which he believed formed a compotent part of London milk ; ( A laugh . ) He ( Mr Bright ) did not think the House was specially called upon to legislate for the food of dogs , while they paid so little regard to the food of millions of their _fellow-men ( Oh ! oh !) .: ' ' The Chaibman ( Mr . Greene ) proceeded , to put tho ques . tion . _wheu

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      Mr . W . Miles exclaimed , "I'll stop you witl _, „ _, ( Laughter ) . ° _' _* Mr . B . _Escott said , if his Hon . Friend tho Member f Somersetshire wished to bring the principle of protect * _^ into utter contempt he was pursuing a course to eilW m _* " object . Mr . AV . Miles was not to be told in what mar _. ne should discharge his duty . The Hon . Member fov W * ' Chester ( Mr , Escott ) took every possible opportunit - _'" acting directly against the agricultural interest m laugh . ) He ( Mr . Miles ) did not know how it | lapp ' ¦ _*' l _. _* - IF It wnc iinccililo _tr \ _tlwnw _r . t n «» . : . _n _° 0 , but if it was possible to throw out Mr . W . Miles exclaimed , "I'll stop you witl , _.., _« , _„

      _,, ,, any iiiiputafin factiousness against those who supported the inter .- ¦' agriculture , the Hon . Member for Winchester was the « . person to cast obloquy upon those Hon . Gentlemen _Ir * over , ho . ( Mr . Miles ) was not to be deterred iVo „ i ,. ¦ his duty by the scoffs and sneers of any Hon . _Gentim , _" _* ' and he could tell the Hon . Member for W _incliesteru _"' when he formed a determination , he would not el ' from carrying it out . He was determined that the iir " _^ tariff should not pass entirety without discussion wT made a proposition , to which he had not received a r I with a view to avoid unnecessarily impeding the nro _" of this measure . ' 0 _*"* - ' ?

      Sir R . Feel was willing that the consideration * * article which was objected to should be postponed ' . I "* he thought it most important fov the interests of [ .. ' and commerce that there should be no _uiuicccssarv |! i After some conversation , it was agreed that _»»/ _" '¦' cles objected to should be noted by the _cliairniau * art _'" reserved for future discussion . ' ' an , l The remaining articles in the list were _tlieu ii « reoi those to which any objection was made being res " _on- « i _° ' The House resumed , the Chairman reported urn ., ' and obtained leave to sit again on Wednesday 8 ress

      SUPPLY , The House then went into Committee of Supply the following votes werc agreed to : — "' ( v n £ 600 , 000 , to defray half-pay for tlic navy and IU Marines . " £ 100 , 000 , on account of military pensions and allow ances . £ 100 , 000 , on account of the civil pensions aud i \ ia \ , _anccs for the year 1810 , £ 800 , 000 , on account of land forces afloat aud abroi i for 1846 . £ 100 , 000 , to defray half-pay and allowances for _retirim military officers . ** £ 300 , 000 , to defray the expenses of Chelsea and **¦• mainham Hospitals . The House resumed , and the resolutions w rc _ ported . The other orders of the day were then disposed _« * _, an , j the House adjourned at a quarter past two o ' clock . '

      The Lord Mayor asd _^ Hollowat / s Pius ¦ jm _OijfiMEn'T . —On the Mth inst ., James Stanley " . gentleman ' s servant , residing at Long _Ditton _, _-jjU , an affidavit at the Mansion-house ( which his kri _^ n signed ) , to thc _effectjthat he , Stanley , had had 20 holein one leg and 14 in ' the other , and that he had been so afflicted for two years and a half , and lately could only move b y the use of crutches , and froin tliis Statft he made oatli he lias been miraculousl y _cuixil * _ljv _IIoIloAi-ay _' s Pills anil Ointment , after a host of sursurgeons and one hospital had failed to give relief

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      BANKRUPTS . ( From Friday ' s Gazette , March H . _J "Frederic Lindsay Cole , _renchurch-strect _, City , wine merchant — Mary Conway Painter , Great PeteV . _stwt * Westminster , grocer—John Green , Pall-mall , winwncr chant—Thomas Nelson Deaton Howard , _renchureli-stiett City , merchant—William Henry Mills , M . irk- ! anc , City ' wine-merchant — George Wagner , _HlooinsburvJ , | _Uare draper—William Meek , Southampton , ironinonger-Julius Thompson , Wiginore-strcet , Cavendish-sijuari * , cheese . monger—Samuel Hurd _, Rochester , china-dealer—William Debney , Mistley , Essex , victualler—Jolm Uotcherbv , Dar . lingtOll , Durham , OOal-OWtiei '—James _Ivewle-.- , Liverpool tailor—Thomas Dix , Liverpool , shoe-deiler—Samuel Mar ! shall , Kinsston-upon-lMl , buUder—Charles Douglas Hope Manchester , British and foreign broker—John Strudnick Rowe , _NewcasUe-undev-Lyne , Staffordshire , ih _* a _* _n-r-Theophilus Lane , Hereford , coal-iiierehant—John . Smith Rugeley , Staffordshire , money-scrivener—John Lane Bristol , licensed victualler .

      BANKRUPTS . ( From Tuesday ' s _Gazette , March ISth , ISlo . J William Williams , _Ifis-h-sti-eet , St . Giles , victiiailcr-Henry Hester , _Katclilfb-terrace ,

      DECLABA'I I 0 K 5 OF DIVIDENDS . T . Roberts , Blaekmau-strcet , Borough , lineudrapec , first dividend of 3 s lOd in the pound , any Wednesday , at the office of Mr . Whitmore , Dasinghall-strect . A . Lett , Commercial-road , Lambeth , timber-merchant , first dividend of 4 s lOd in the pound , any Wednesday , at the office of Mr . Whitmore , Basinghall-street . J . T . Milncr and C . Bedford , Kingston-upon-Hull , con . fectioners , final dividend ot' 2 s 9 _| d in the pound , any Tue 3 . day , at the office of . Mr . Hope , Leeds . J . T . Milner , Kingston-upon-Hull , confectioner , first and final dividend of L _> Os in the pound , any Tuesday , at tho office of Mr . Hope , Leeds . C . Bedford , Kingston-upon-IIull , tailor , second _divi-lentl of 4 s in the pound , any Tuesday , at the office of Mr . _llojic _, Leeds . C . S . Master-nan , Croydon , grocer , first dividend of : ' . ' 3 d iu the pound , Saturday next , and two following Saturdays , at the office of Mr . Groom , Abchurch-lane , Citv .

      T . Fisher , Sclby , Yorkshire , linendraper , dividend of -5 in the pound to those who have not received a fornwi dividend , any Wednesday , at the office of Mr . Freeman , Leeds . G . Harriott , Ormskirk , Lancashire , beer brewer , sccowl dividend of ls 7 Jd in the pound , Wednesday , March 26 , and any subsequent "Wednesday , at the office of Mr . Hor . gun , Liverpool . R . Smith , Worcester , attorney , third dividend of Oil to the pound , any Thursday , at the office of Mr . _Cln-i-tie , Birmingham . w . H . Bates , Birmingham , factor , second dividend offld in the pound , any Thursday , at the office of Mr . _Ciirist ' e , Birmingham . S . Sedgley , Dudley , Staffordshire , grocer , first diiideinl of Is lOd in the pound , on new proofs , anv Tluirsday , a . the office of Mr . Vnlpy , "Birmingham . J . C . Lister , Wolverhampton , Staffordshire , wiiic-iner . chant , first dividend of ls 6 d in the pound , on new'pi-oof .- ? , any Thursday , atthe office of Mr . ValpyBirmingham .

      , J . N . Sargent , Nottingham , grocer , first dividend Ot 6 s Gd in the pound , on new proofs , any Thursday , at tha office of Mr . Valpy , Birmingham . J . Glazebrook , Birmingham , carpenter , first dividend ot 6 d in the pound , any Thursday , at the office of Mr . Valpy , Birmingham . T . Dobson , sen ., J . Dobson , and T . Dobson , jun ., Cityroad , carpet-manufacturers , first dividend of 3 s 4 d in the pound , on new proofs , second dividend of 2 ld in thc pound , any Thursday , atthe office of Mr . Valpy , Birmingham . J . Goren , Orchard-street , _Portman-squarc _, scrivener , second dividend of 4 d in the pound , any Saturday , at the office of Mr . Edwards , Frederick's-place , Old Jewry . J . Peaten _, Paddington-street , _Marvlebone _, ironmonger , first dividend of IsCd in the pound , any Saturday , at the office of Mr . EdwardsFrederick ' s-placeOld Jewry .

      , , C . Newton and 0 . Worssam , Kingsland-basin , Kingsland-road , engineers , first dividend of 4 s Gd in the pound , any Saturday , at the office of Mr , Edwards , Frederick ' s place , Old Jewry . T . Miller , Greeii-street , Leicester-square , baker , first dividend of ls 4 d in tho pound , anv Saturday , at the othtt of Mr . Edwards , Frederick's-place , Old Jewry .

      DIVIDENDS , April 15 , G . Francis and T . Francis , jun ., Camb ridge , corn-merchants—April 9 , G . E . White , Reading , tailor-April 8 , R . Marshall , Deptford , stonemason—April 7 , T . Johnson , sen ., TV , Johnson , and C . Mann , Romford , Esse- * - bankers—April lo , G . B . Rudgu , GIoucester-sti'eet , _Curtuinroad , japan leather-manufactuver—April 9 , F . Dudley , ltochford , Essex , builder—April 10 , J . Gale , sen ., and JGale , jun ., Love-lane , Shadwell , _rope-makers-April S , l . Lordeu and N . Hadley _, Kerne Bav , Kent , builders-April 10 , B . Fountain , Derby , wine-merchant—April 9 , T . _Keaflley and T . Watt , Runcorn , Cheshire , bone-merc hants-April 10 , T . _Daniell , Boulogne , copper-smel ter—April 11 , G Sta . nway , Slohe-upon-Trent , confectioner , Erbatum . —In last Tuesday ' s Gazette , dividend of T . "Withell _, Padstow , Cornwall , for April 3 read April 4 . Certificates to be granted , unless cause be shown to tho contrary on the day of meeting .

      April 8 , II . Wehnert , Leicester-square , tailor—April b _, J . Moutrie , Bristol , music-seller—April 8 , J . Argent . Golden-lane , Barbican , victualler—April 8 , T . _Coopw Aldgate High-street , City , coffeehouse keeper-April u T . R , withers , Rumbridgc , Hampshire , merchant- _M'W 15 , G . E . White , Reading , Berkshire , tailor-April IS , _* and D . Hepworth , Raistrick , Yorkshire , cotton warpdyers—April 9 , J . Staples , Cottenham , Cambridgcs liiWi plumber-April 10 , W . Clarke , Sheffield , builder-April l ; i II . Craven , Wakefield , Yorkshire , corn-miller-A pril M > E . L . Robinson , Moulton , Lincolnshire , _felli noiiger-Al > ri * 14 , M . Tomlanaon , Kidderminster , Worcestershire , linendraper—April 8 , T . and J . Jones , Liverpool , _taUow-elian d ; lers-April 8 , E . Scott , Hillborough , Norfolk , miUor-A ] ' _" * 8 , W . Richardson , Newcastle-upon-Tyne , _glaBS-m _auutacturer—April 8 , P . J . Meugens , Dunster-court , _MiiicwSlane , City , broker—April 8 , W . Jackson , Charlottc-stree . Fitzroy-square , paper-hanger—April 8 , A . Seed , livei _** ? ' licensed victualler—April 8 , 11 . Blockley , Crewe , Chester * - '* linen-draper—April 8 , J . Ward , Manchester , engineer-April 8 , B . Creigh , Newcastle-upon-Tyne , cartwrig ht .

      FAKTWEnsmrs _dissolved . II . Woollright and J . Pearson , Canterbury , lineiidrai )>> r —P . and J . Broad , Brighton , _tallow-meltcrs—T . E . Green * how and R . E . Huutlev , Newcastle-upon-Tyne , ship broKC " —J . Hawkins , J . Cooper , aud W . Fieldhouse , Foley , SW fordshire , china-manufacturers ; as far as regards :. Cooper—G . Freeman and T . B . _Beeslev , Birming ham , ' >•••¦ factors—G . and S . Reynolds , Salisbury-street , Liis *"* grove , _com-dealers— "W . and K . Townley and "VY . i *; ca" ' wright , Blackhurn , Lancashire , cotton-spinners-J- " ! ' \ V . Bray , and II . Edmonds , Bradford , Wiltshire , clo tM _" - " —J . L . Butler and "W . Paton , Liverpool , coal-inerehan t *> --W . H . Austin and G . W . Tinkler . Harp-lane , T . o * ff

      _Thames-street , _Custom-house-agents—T . Sanderson _••? . H . J . Cook , Liverpool , coal-merchants-J . Dyer amj ' * Culliford , BanweU , Somersetshire , drapevs-E . _F' _»*" ' * nd A . G . Favenc , Lower Thames-street , wine-nicrcua " —T . TV . Dean and E . Law , Nicholas-lane , _Lombntd-sw « «< artists—G . and J . Bindley , Coventry , _haberdashcrs-v . ' ¦' _TTessel and F . Stapleton , Frith-street , Soho , _music-Pf Ushers—W . Reed andR . Taylor , _Bruns-mck . parade , is 1 . _* _- 'j ton , linendrapers—J . Cowing and-. A . Peacoc k , Sp »' . ' square , silkmen—J . Dobson and C . Nixon , Dent , YorKsn _»" ;' marble-dealers—C . C . Eyre and F , j , Btirge , turonSu ' green , surgeons ' —A . Toft and J . Austin , Shelton Pottcric * . engravers—J . and B ; A . Prichard and J . Railton , * - _*' _¦*}" pool , timber-dealers -as far as regards' J . B _* iIt 0 _ff'la Darby , J . Higgs , and T . Pickering , Kingswinford , Stattor ' _SlaVe , _eoalmttSters ; us far as regard * T . Pickering-- " Hanney and T . Hinton _, Bradford , Yorkshire , contr ftCtOi "

  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), March 22, 1845, page 6, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns3_22031845/page/6/