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      The National Convention. Tuesday Morning...

      fa Vttion-and had not got _fondBforany otler _pur-^ _fne motion was _cnried with one _dissentient , and & j committee appointed . THS CHABTEB _ASSOCIATION . Mr CcFFATrose to move that a delegate be _ap-Wkidw _. it up stairs daily , to enrol members of SfSnal Charier _Assc-ci & _iwu , there _tewgmzuy Sr * oS who did net know where to get enrolled . _^ A % _Childs seconded the motion , knowing that Wvof the middle d « sse _« were _willing to join the _morement * eemS that _ifoy were endeavouring ta « btvn the rights of the people peaceably . Mr _WHKtLKR thought that it would be better to entrust some other person than a delegate with the After a short conversation the word * person' was substituted for * _delegate , ' and the motion for providing for the enrolling of the members of the Charter Association , and to receive donations in supsort of the caase , < ra ? _carried .

      THS SATIONAIi ASSEMBLY . A _repsrt of the committee ior dividing the country Into electoral districts was read , by which it « -ss proposed , that the _delegates to the _Assembly should tie elected from places wi : h which the Charter _Astocistion was in communication , there being 100 -jBembers . . - Mr Adahs _contended , that in order to have a fair -representation in the National Assembly , it must be _-framed upon the number of ths papalntion of ths varioiis places , and he therefore proposed , that it be an Instruction to the committee appointed to divide the country into electoral districts u ? cn the bash * he had mentioned only . Mr CecHRAxs _jeeondrd tbe motion . Mc-Do 5 e > v « N moved that no such instruction be . given to the committee . - Mr En . Jus _« s seconded the amendment .

      Ilr Couuujq _ongesed the motion of Mr Adams , en the _giounl tha _' t many p ! aee 3 with large _populations _cJEtuined comparatively few of the working Classes . . Ona ot two other speakers h _* mng _espreesei their opinions in favour of the resolution , the Convention _sdiourned . AFTERNOON SITTING . The _Ghaibsaw announced that he had received -coraasuieat ' _.-jns frem _Ailoa , Leigh , Macclesfield , Liverpool , _Ciue ' ev . North Shields , Stalybridge , _JSouthsKip _' _oi , Carlisle , Exeter , Clitheroe , and other pfacS 3 _) at whieh re _.-n- ' _ations were carried in support of ths views of the _Convention .

      THB _DOCKrARHS . Mr _Hatjnet stated that it had been _reported by the newspapers tbat on Mr Ward and other gentlemen -waitim / _on the working men at Woolwich dockyard they _unanimously resolved to support , the eovera--aettt , as special constables , against the _Chartists , but _4 hev had _t _' lr _^ _otteH to say thn the men in the _dockyard at Deptford had refused to do so . and _expectt-d to lose their situations in consequence . The Times tad suggested that the special constables who had shown their _leva ' . ty should have a feast at the ex pense of the aristocracy in the E _tster week . Now he wished it to te understood that if the Charti 3 ts obtained their object they intended to put the woik _' ng -men in suca a _Position as to have a feast every day , JBnd th * - at their own expense . He hoped if the loyal jnen of " _vYo-ilwich dockyard was invited to the Easter . feast that the brave mea of Deptford would also be invited .

      THE _SATIOVAL ASSEMBLY . The adjourned debate on this subject , and the subdivision of the country into electoraldistricts , then took place ; and various delegates having spoken for and aeainst the amendment of Mr Adams , Mr _Giiaham moved that the Convention do name -e £ _rt-iin towns to send _delegates to the _National _Assemble , and _shaianyotlser town _containing ft certain number of inhabitants b ? at liberty to send a delegate , so as to make the Assembly the representatives oftho eonntry at ferge . Hr Misfield seconded the amendment . Auer _sooii further discussVm . it was resolved that each county should have a proportionate number of ¦ delegates , according to the nnmber ef its inhabitants , the Executive having the power of fixing the election _jkces . ALIS _53 Ef EXGLAKD .

      Mr Ktdd gave notice ofa motion to the effeot that , iaving _mtnessed with feelings of admiration _^ the _growing spirit of fraternity , and that tbe recognition of tbe great truth that all men are brethren must ever i _) _9 conducive to tho permanent peace of England , tbh Convention protest against the bill _proposed to be introduced into prir . iam . ent by Lord Ltnsdowne , in the House of Lords , fir expelling foreigners from the Snores of this country for political motives asdf spotic in principle , and in oppositien to a wise , enlightened , and statesmanlike international policy .

      TJS 1 IY BF ACTION . Mr _Dixix proposed a resolution , to the effect that some steps _.-h'juld be taken to bring abaut a unity Of _action among all the parties deputed from this _Convention to advocate tbe cause ofthe Charter at public _meetings . He believed that a great deal of rabid _nonfensa had been spouted dai-iD _^ the last six week ? , by _^ hicb . their cause had been damaged ; and Grey thou'd not go on allowing one _gentleman to advocate _physieil force and another mo-al force at different meeting 2 . They were about to send delegates Into tne country , and they should have a unity oi action among them , by keeping out of view bath _physical and moial force , " _leayiag the adoption of the former , if it shonld ever be _necessary , to chance .

      At the _suggestion of Messrs _mnssr and _Weeelsb , the motion was withdrawn , aa likely to provoke a physical and moral force discussion , by which the cause _wauld b 3 damaged . THE HIBDLS CLASSES . Mr Leach moved thit the Convention _disapliroved of any _resolution condemnatory of the middle -e !& 3 = es a 3 a body , knowing that there were thousands shove the general body of tie people who ara equally tired , with the working classes , of the present system of misgovernment , and anxious to get rid ofthe oppression , and the Convention considers it its duty to conciliate ttat class as far as possible , and gain their support in _carrying the measures which it is the object of the Conveation to _forward-Mr _Cochraxb seconded the resolution , feeling that the interests of the middle and working classes were identical .

      Mr Eduusd _Joss 3 supported the motion , contending that withaut the assistance of the middle classes they _e-iuld never attain their rights , The _working Ken could not obtain their rights without that assistant * _^ ( ' We can , we cm . ' ) Then why had they cot d ' _. _ne'it ? They bad been trying for twenty years , but they hsd always reviled too muck the middle _cksscrt to bring about a union between the two class ? s , and they ought now to endeavour to bring about conciliation . Mr _Ktsd supported the motion , though he contended that it had been the fault of the middle classes that a union had not been sooner brought about . Mr Dokovax supported the motion , though he believed they ( tha working classes ) could obtain the Charter for themselves , becauso ho loved unity among all men and was anxious to promote it .

      _Mfsjra Adams , Tattersall , and Harney having _addressed the meeting , the debate was adjourned . A committee was then appointed to draw up an _address to the working classes relative to the _simultaneo-is _meetings , and the Convention seoarated . THURSDAY MORNING-Afkil 13 . Mr _WiLatssoswas called to the chair , pro tem . in _consrq _lence of Mr M'Grath being detained on busi-E _683 r . r the Land Office . The .- _CmiRiuT _^ read a letter from Pauley , at which _avery large meeting had been held . Resolutions to support the Convention were passed . Mr Walter read * letter be had received from Kidderminster , announcing oae of tha largest meetings that was ever held at that place . Resolutions _j-assed io use every means to obtain the Charter and _uppnrt the Convention .

      Mr _Cciniiss read a similar communication from _Edinburgh . _ABJOEiWTD DZBiTB ON UR LEACH _' s _MlTIOIf . Mr T . Cup . k said , Mr Leach wished to have a goodf .. cling elist amongst all classes . Some gentlemen had said the middle classes were now coming round te ns from the pressure of the times , this wag € _ejualiy true of a portion of the working _clasfes ; he would rather have tbe support of men from lore of grinciple thin from any question of expediency . However , he wonld _rath-r have the support than _oppositi' _-n of any class . He hoped to see a union of all « U _^ sesfortheobtainroentofthe " rightsofall .

      Mr W " E 5 r ? aui , he could scarcely understand what Mr Clark had been driving at , he said we must not give up one jot of principle , yet vre must _luy down gome fine of _policy to obtain the raidile classes . Mr -Clark- too , bad said , tho _wsrking classes , especially the trades , wero set with us , —now he ( Mr West ) _G & id they wer _^ , if they were not , what business hsd that Convention there ? ( Hear , hear . ) The United Trades were with them , and many of the middle classes were with them . Sure he was that the _mid-^ £ e classes would find Chartism reduce rates and fsses , and relieve their burden * , ha would do anything bnt _abandan their principles to obtain a onion . ( Loud cheera )

      MrPETsis _would support Mr Loach ' s motion . Mr _BoMTfiii , having requested leave of _absence , Mr _Wheels suggested that ihe present debate _ehould ba adj > urned , to give place to the report respecting the _missionaries . Mr _Wheefer s suggestion wis adopted , and ha then brought up the report _recommend ill ? the sendin ? out of twelve missionaries and _pMpisiiiH their districts . . _McFgssklz , moved ihac the report be received . Mr _Tatihusau , sa-d , he thought it would have fasn better tor the delegates to nave g _? ne to their _otsa _dist-i' _-t 3 . Mr Dix in rhon _^ b fc it could bi arranacd between & _4 dele _? ite » , is t 0 the districts thay woiid go to , in _etsmmittee . Mr Leach moved : — ' That tb . 3 m _> s ' onarie 3 have a _meeting to _^ eiher , and nuke arrangements with Me _Tairi- _asiLLseoaded so * _moties .

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      1 Mr Emu said , he would rather not go to Ireland as recommended in the report . MrCLAEKsaid _. hadidnot think a case had been made out for delegates going to Ireland , he would therefore move thafc that portion ot tae report t > 9 leH _< nt . Mr _Ctjffat said , ho would move that that portion of the report relative to Ireland should be struck out , and that the Confederate body be written to , to know if the Irish woald wish to send delesates to the National Assembly . After some discussion . Mr Cuffay ' a notion was carried . Mr _Wheblbr moved , 'Thit a deputation be sent to the Confederates in Dublin . ' Mr _M'Cabtht seconded the motioH . Mr Ktdd moved;— That the eitiz ? ns ot Ireland sheuld be respectfully requested to send delegates to the National Assembly . Mr Cochrane seconded the amendment .

      Mr _Whieder withdrew his motion in favour of MrKvdd ' _s . . ,. . Mr Leach had much pleasure in supporting the motion now before the house . He had been in Da Win for a short _fcinis as ft Chartist—a proclaimed Chartist , and never did he see principles received with greater enthusiasm . He believed that the _peeple of the two nations were now firmly united , and that it was outof the power of the government to disunite us . ( Loud cheers . ) The motion of Mr Ktdd was then putand carried aDaniinoeialy . Mr Wheblbr moved : —• That the two delegates lo Ireland , should be Messrs Leach and Kydd . ' Mr M'Cakthy seconded the motion . Mr Ktdd consented . Mr Clark _invested that Mr M'Grath should be added , thus sending an Englishman , a Scotchman , aid an Irishman .

      Mr _WHEBLun consented , and the metion was carried with acclamation . A letter was read from Merthyr . _atafingthat the snow fell like a January day , but that , notwithstanding , a large meeting had been held , and that they were enthusiastically in favour of the Convention . The further consideration of the report was postponed , and the discussion on Mr Leaeh ' _s motion re sumed . Mr Reyxolos supported tha motion . Tho government bad alarmed the middle classes , but the peaceful disposition of the people hnd disabused their minds At three immense establishments—Messrs _Clowes _' s , _Maudglcy ' g , and Rennie _' _s , tho men had refused to act against the people . There were men ef wealth amongst the Chartists—he had a large establishment , and God knew he would have no _scr liable for property— ( bud cheers)—nor would any of thero . ( Great cheering . ) f

      Mr _Lighiowlkr taid , r < _:-m letters he received from Bradford , ha p ° _rreived the middle classes were comins orer to Chart sm , and bence he would support the motion . Alone _discussion followed , in which Messrs G ' _ennuter , Mirfield . Dixon , Fus _» e'I , _Stevenson , Will . Lo ; very , Shaw , Buckby , S'evens , M'Carthy , Ashton Graham , Hlie-hen , Walter . _Smi'h , Child , Cum ming , Shirron , FraRcis , and _Grabim . took part The majority of the speakers supporttd Mr Leach's motion . Mr Cvtfat moved .- — * Thai this _Convention having heard that a _consid-rab _' e pinion of the middle classes ara _desirous of joining the Chartist movement , hereby re- < _-lve to receive them with great cordiality . ' Mr Cuffay showed several indicat ons of the m _dila claw coming round to the great prnciples of _democracy . Mr Cmi . n seconded the amendment .

      Mr Leach in reply said , he had put his mot on on high ground , thc equal right of all , and he was pleased at the opinion tbat _prevai'ed in its favour . Mr Marsden a _> ked . did . Mr Leach disapprove o any res _lutioa that _had ever been _imsed , aa regards the miJdle classes by tbe Chartists ? Mr . Leach thought this not the time to rake up pa « t _difforescea . Mr Leach ' s motion was then put , and carried by a ' arse majority . Mr Watsos obtained leave of absence , as did also Mr Wilkinson . The Conference then adjourned .

      AFTERNOON SITTING . Mr Wilkinson resumed the chair . Mr Adams moved . — ' That the secretary write to Jame 3 Bronterre O'Brien , to request him to assign a reason for his long absence , or to attend to his duty . Mr Fgancis seconded the motion . Mr Leach opposed it . The motion was lost .

      alikk bill . Mr Ktdd 'noved . — ' That we hare witnessed with satisfaction the coming feeling of fraternity , and _acknowledge the great truth that ' all men are brethren , ' denounce the Alien Bill of the Marquis of _LansdowHC ' The motion was seconded , and carried unanimously . Mr _Shirrox rose to move an address to the trades calling on then to adopt the People ' s Charter Any one looking back toth _9 history ef Trades * Unions , would at once see in what way _stcial ameliorations have been effected by them . He believed if tho trades' unions would take up the matter , it would strike brror in'o tbe hearts of tyrantB ,

      Mr Bucket said , it had been _frequently said trades _ba-l nothing to do with politics ; if they had no t , of this be was , sure—politics bad a great deal to _d-i with trade—( hear , hear , }—and it should be b irne in mind that thera was _' at the present moment a body called the * United Trades ; ' to these , espec ' _aJIr , as well as to the others in general , he would appoal . Mr West said his own opinion was that the trades _ingwril were _esssntially Chartists , and amongst all of them waa poverty—still there were Bome much better paid than ethers—but he was clad to find that the better paid were now inclined to lift up those that were down , and to those we should appeal to take part in the _National _Assembly ; and he , for one , would not give a farthing for the Charter , unless it produced a social change , and it was necessary that an address Bhould be issued , and that a committee be appointed without delay ,

      Mr Adam * moved an amendment : —* That the trades are a portion of the people , and it was therefore inexpedient to appeal to them as trades , to send representatives . ' Mr Murfjit _eeeended the amendment . A discussion followed , in which Messrs Stevenson , Kydd , Linney , Walter , Jones , Cochrane , Ashton , and Donovan took part . Mr Adaus withdrew his amendment , And Mr SfliBEOs having _eonsented to make _aslisht alteration in his motion , it was earried _unanimoualy , Messrs Shirron , Walter , and Marsden , were appointed a committee to draw up the address .

      Mr _Adaus re . id a letter from Glasgow , from a body of trades'delegates consisting of four hundred person ' , _denouncing Sir _Gaorge Grey ' s bill , and its _premnters , the everlasting deceivers of the people , the Whig government , and read a copy of a bill issued by the men of Glasgow , denunciatory ofthe Whig * Star Chamber' measures . The reading was received with _theroostvsciferouacbeeiing . Mr T . M . Whkelek said , he had a report to deliver , relative to the districts , and tho missionaries appointed to attend . Mr _SrETfissow moved , ' That tho Convention adjournfromSaturday next _. untilMonday , April 24 ; h . The motion was seconded . Mr Cvtfat presumed , that unless a previous resolution was rescinded , this question could not be put . Mr Wild said , this was not a vole of dissolution but of adjournment .

      Mr WnEELKR brouaht up an amended report concerning the missionaries , which was adopted , and the Convention adjeurned for the evenin ? . FRIDAY _MORNING—Aphil 7 th . Mr _M'Ghath took the chair at nine o'clock . Various letters were read from different parts of lha country expressive of confidence in tho Convention . Mr Lu . _n-d moved , thatthe Conventien at its risin ? to morrow should be adjourned to the 24 th inst ., and that in the meantime the Executive have full _powere to act . In defiance- of anything that might have

      been said in the press , ha maintained that the Convention _hal invariably _suppirted pacific principles ; and , had it been _otherwise , the letters daily read sh . wed that the whole country would hava baen plunged into confusion ; and , unlesi something was done by parliament to meet the demands contained in the Natioaal Petition thia night , within sis months peace , order , and society , would be at aa end . They were abont to Bend missionaries throughout the country ; and when the National Assembly met _members must do their duty , and carry out , at all hazar d * , the _purpose for which thay were elected . Mr Lowry seconded the motion .

      Mr Eb . vest Jo . > es , Mr _CuriMT , asd other delegates , contended that the motion was out of order , as they had determined to sit permanently until tho meeting of the National Assembly . Mr Stevesson maintained tbat they were in order . Mr Enss 3 _i Jones gave notice thathc should move ths appointment of a committee to dray up a memorial to tha Queen in favour of thi Charter . In consequence of the insult and contumely thrown on ths petition Mr O'Connor had declined to bring forward bis motion _respecting it . H » , therefore , opposed the resolution , as he considered thera was plenty of work to ba d _* ne to occupy them until the meeting ef the National Assembly ; and if they dissolved that Convention he _believed that tha National Assembly would never be go- together .

      Mr West agreed with Mr Jones . With regard to what had taken place in the ilouse of Caramons , he d -nicd that thirteen clerks _ccuU have more than _juos _^ cd atthe contents of ths petition in seventeen hours . They were said to h . _ive counted the signatures _, and il thera were ficticious signatures attached to the petition , hc ( Mr West ) thought tbey must have besn appended by some Bpy or tool of the government . As regarded the signatures ofwomen b-nig attached to the petition , he had always rc _» _cjmmendtdwomeutOBisn , as they had tbe greatest

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      burden io bear , and had the cries of the starving children continual _' y ringing in their ears ; and when the women of England . were petitioning against negro _sjavery , it was urged by the parties whe now _complained of women signing , that all the humanity and best feelings of the nation were marshalled on behalf of our suffering negro brethren . ( _Chetra . ) Mr Cuffat did not consider that it mattered macfi what was tho real number of the signatures attached to the petition . If they took tbe medium , they would find there were sufficient to demand attention from an y government . .....

      Some further conversation ensued , in whioh it was contended that the proceedings in the Ilouse of Commons last night had altered circumstances , so as to _demand the _continued 9 itlitga of the Convention , that th ? country were looking to them to take the neces ? ary steps to carry tho Charter ; and that they ought to remain in London until it was obtained . Mr Lumd replied , and made a severe attack on the _Tmsa . The CBAIBM 4 M having expressed his opinion that no course should be taken with regard to future proceedings until they had heard explanations from Mr O'Connor relative to whattook plaee in the Ilouse of Commons , the motion was withdrawn .

      A deputation was then appointed , requesting Mr O'Connor to attend the Convention , or tive some explanation of wbat he _intended to do with regard to tbe Charter in the House of Commons . The deputation had scarcely kit tho roam , when the hon . gentleman _enterei , and was received with loud c heers . Mr O'Connor thea proceeded to address the meeting by stating , that of course tbey had seen in tho newspapers a report of the proceedings in _tn-s House of Commons the previous night , but he wished to lay before them a true narrative of what had occurred . ( Hear . ) After the usual business of presenting petitions had been gone through , a _quea-! tion was mooted relative to a report made by the

      committee on petitions relative to the signatures attached to the national petition . ( Hear , hear . ) ' 1 hat committee reported that having employed thirteen stationers' clerks tor seventeen hours , they had como to the conclusion tbat the petition was only signed hy 1 , 900 000 _individual —( hear , hear , )—thnt thepetition was signed several times with the name of the Duke of Wellinaton , the Queen , and . other persons of rank ; tbat obscene a * d other improper observations were _inec-it-ed in the place of _signatures ; and on ; some of the sheets was written ' No more signatures today , as there is no more pay . ' He stated in rcp'y that he believed tbe committee were in error as to the numbers , and he was afterwards insulted in such a manner as no man of honour

      could submit to ; but as the gentleman hnd _jifter . wards apologieed for his _language he ( Mr O'Connor ) did not _wjsh further to refer to it . He stated , in hia place in the House of Common' -, that il was his opinion that many of the fictitious names and dis _gusting < _-bservatiuns had bsen attached to tbe petition by _governmeotspies—( eheers )— and he thought that it was not unlikely that those who placed them there knew where to find them . ( Hear . ) He also stated that though , according to general parliamentary practices , he was supposed to know ths facta connected _w-th signatures to the petition , it was morally impossible he could do so ; and it was morally out ol his _po-ver to examine it , not _having seen it before the day on whiei it war * taken down lo the houso .

      ( Cheers . ) He knew when similar charges had been made against other petitions they had been met with sneers ; for instance , when Mr Newdegate stated in the house that he could prove that the signatures to the'petitions in favour ofthe _Jewub . Disablitic _* Bill had been paid for , he was laughed at . He ( MrO'Con also said that it waa impassible tbe _petition had been properly seen into , and that tho ommittee had been imposed npon . An angry debate ensued , aid _expressions of insult having been used against hira , he stated that he bad three duties to perform—to the home , to the _cimmittee , and to himself as n gentleman- and , having discharged the two former duties , he left tha house . On arriving at tho Northern Star Office , he wrote a letter to Mr Cripps , which

      he entrusted for delivery to Mr Lraest J . _mes , appointing that gentleman as a friend . __ ( Hear , hear . ) He must here do Mr Cripps the justice to say that that gentleman _emild not thtn set Mr Jonee , being bound bv tha Speaker not to leave the h ' _ous _? . Shortly _afterwards he ( Mr O'Connor ) _wa 3 _ferved with the Speaker ' s order to attend in his place in _Parliament , and , after a _slight _inflection , he _thought it would be deemed an act of cowardice if he a'tended to it , and he , therefore , _d-frr-nined not to do so . ( Cheer .- * . ) At a quarter i >» _st ten he wis _avrested by the Deputy Sergeant at Arms , and taken down to the house _, where Mr _Criops , after mature reflection — after the heat of debate had passed away—apologised for having used _unparliamentary languige , and stated

      that he had not intended to uso any expressions which one gentleman should not use to another . He ( Mr O'Connor ) therefore expressed his intention of not pro . eeding with the matter farther , though it was moat painful to him to have to _endur- - all the _bello-vings and badgerings from the HcUSQ ot Commons , which had gone from positive to superlative . ( Hear , hear ) Knowing that tbe report presented to tha hou e was not that of the Committee of Petitions , but of the law stationers ' clerks , he ( Mr O'Connor ) proposed that a select committee should be appointed to inquire into the whole of the facte , but as it wa ? t-tated that would be throwing a slur upon the Commifee on Petitions he did not press it . He had also endeavoured to show

      that the number of _s _' gnatures must have been larger than was stated b _> _collateral evidence from tbe num ber of times he had to lilt it in portions to the table , but to no purpose ; and ho believed that if an angel from Heaven was to enter tb . 3 House of _Cimmons and mentioned the name of the Charter , he could no more _exoect ' . o be heard than could a sweep . ( Cbeers and laughter . ) Now , this report was & eovernment trick devised for the express purpose of _enabling forae members who would otherwise _fcel themselves compi Ued to vote for the Charter , that they might have a loop-hole to creep out of ; nnd he might here mention that he had that morning received a letter from Mr Thomas Duncombe , written before the report of the committee was presented ,

      _begging him to be on bis gnard , as most probably some ' dodge' would bo found to get rid ol the question . Finding wbat was the intention of the government , and that he waa not last night supported by a single member of tho . House of Commons — a thought struck him that he would place tbe government in a very awkward fix . ( Hear , hear . ) LaBt Monday , by their prudent ar . d courage _ms conduct , tbfy had placed _thegovernmtnt in oneawkward fix . and _h-i determined to place them in another , lie _thereforegave notice that he would net bring forward _lu-i motion relative to the petition , but that he would leave it to be settled bet-teen the government and the ciuntry , and between the committee and the petitioners . Ue wag glad that the Convention had re

      salved to agitate the country during the Easter week _^ and he hoped thafc during that period they would be enabled to inundate the House of Commons with petitions , and that every man getting them up would Uke care that no btu al or filthy observations should be inscribed upon them . ( Hear , hear . ) That was the first time that any member of parliament had been he : d amenable fur the signatures to a petition ; but the fact wa " , that the trick was . played beoause many , many members felt that they shonld be obliged to vote for the _Caarter if something of the kind had _jwt been eot up . __ Under _tkeao circumstances , he thought ho had a right to a-k for a protection from the Convention and from the country , for , if he was out of

      Parliament _, tho _nnrno of the Chatter would bo rarely , if ever , mentioned within its walls , excepting from George Thompson and one or two others . Ho was prepared to take his stand as boldly in tbe house as out of it , but he did net think that he ought to be held answ _.-rable for everything tbat was said by others . He begged them in the name of God not to jeopardise their caase by any rash words or proceedings of theirs . The govtrnment was on the evo of a great monetary crisis , ar . d then they would be compelled to grant the people those rights to which _tiaey were _just ' y ent t : ed . ( Cheera ) Now he wished to appeal to them for their support for what he had done in _declining to bring iorward the motion , so as to put tho government in tre _tvortt

      position , the people in a better , and _himsell in the best pnaitbn for securing tbeir rights . ( Cheers . ) He hoped that no an _^ _ry diacusdon would take tike place , and if a majority of that Convention were in favour of bringing tbe petition forward he would do bo , though he believed that , under present circumstances , it would be _dam . _' . gin " the position thoy had obtained . ( CheerB ) When the country had been fully canvassed , and the _hou-e was ao inundated with petitions that it would take a month or two to receive theru alone , they mu 3 t be heard . ( Cheers . ) N w having explained the _positi-jn in which they were placed , he hoped they would ap prove of his conduct , and allow him to go down to the Ilouse of Commons to oppose tue proceedings on tfce Whig _Illu-itrated Treaion Bill . ( Cheers . )

      Mr West stated that he doubted whether they could get the people to petition again ; but he begged to move , after what had taken place in the ilouse of Commons on Thursday night , tbat he would _n- » t be _justified in bringing forward a motion on the subjeot of the Charter . Mr _Giuium moved , as an amendment , that the Charter be brought forward that night . The motion and amendment having been respectively seconded , a vote was taken , when the amendment waa neg « t J _» ed by a majority of 35 to -4 , a . _id the original motion _earri-wl .

      K 8 M 0 RUL TO THE QUEEN . Mr Ernest Jo . ks again rose , and gave notice that a coram ? _tu > e _should be appointed to address & memorial to the _Q-ieon to dismiss her _prenent miuiaters , and call to ner councils auch persons' as would support the People ' s Chuter . Mr 0 * Cokn ( ik begged to second the motion . It ever there was a ministry which _desesved to be hurled frsm power , it was the preBent . ( Cheers ) They wero attempting to support the aristocracy against tlje people , aud the next movement nuut Sua

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      a conjoint ons , between the working and middle classes to destroy the influence of that aristocracy ( Cheers . ) He bad said in the _H- » use of Commons that thepeople must look to the _landlordsfor support , but he now said that'here was no me in appealins _; either to the land ! _rda or to the House of Common- ' , but they must be destroyed . ( Cheers . ) Another thing that the people had to grapple with was a mercenary and rabid pre _^ s- and until I hey showed their strength the press would oppose them ( Hear . ) The _Mormiko _Chronicle had lately been the most rabid of the daily papers against the Chartists-. ( Hear , hear . ) Now , that paper wns the property of » Jew ( B : _iron Rothschild ) , who was aeeking to obtain a placo in the House of C -mmons , and yet , notwiththe his ..... .... u . » u -: __„ —j _^; _aji _^

      standing he had been backed by people , paper waa tho most violent and rabid aga »> ] them , aad he was . almost sorry that he had voted in favour ofthe removal ofthe Jewish Disabilities Bill , though he had done so frora principle _, _ae-dn" the _courpe taken by a Jew newspaper with regard to the rights of the people . ( 'Hear , hear , hear , ' and ' Shame . ' ) The question was ene of the mofct important , and , in order t > be better prepared to support the people * , he hal _deiarmiaed , as soon after Easterns _por-sible , _t »> tabli » h a daily paper for the working classes . ( Hear , and _t-heer . _« . ) It was no use when a man placed a pisiol to your breast , for you to _teil him that you had a cannon at home to shoot him with on Saturday . ' ( Laughter . ) So it was with the Press : it was no uso for tbe NuRTHhc

      brs Star to be contradiot _' n _^ on t Saturday , the lies of tho Monday , theTu _. sday . or the Wednf _sdaj ; but when they had a rifle _br-gada ; n their daily pater , they would be able to answer the _l'es of the morning in tho evening , in addition to the support which they would receive from th ? heavy ar illfry of the Norihbiw Stab . ( Cheers . ) The principles of that paper would be most _democratic , and not a single line wou'd be published in it except in _support ofthe _Chait'i-, even if they gavft tha managers o

      mi ! li < _-n of money . ( Loud _Cheers . ) They bad now got 260 new member .- ) in tbo House of Commons , who bad never voted on tho subject of the Charter , it being truly stated that of the seven _ypaw for which they were elected Members of Parliament they wpre six jears _doins m ' sehief , and m tbe _ser ? nta yenr they were sitting on the stool of repentance , and saying- they _we-ro sorry for _wh- > t _the-y bad _d-me ; bot the fact w &\ the acts of the six years stood on tVe statute book , while the repentance of the seventh wa » blown to the winds . ( Cheers . )

      Mr Do . wv . iN- begged to sav that he would never take part iu another farce like thnt of Monday ; and it was useless to say that they would present a _memorial by _profession . Oa the motion of Mr Adam--, a vote of thanks was given to Mr Feargus O'Connor _f- » r his noble and die nified conduct in the House of Commons last night _, and that Convention dechred its warmest sympathy with bim in the treatment he had received . The motion was carried unanimously , and briefly _acknowle-dged by tbe bon . gentleman . Mr O'Connor then retired amdst loud cheers , and The Chairman suggested that the _discussiod on the motion of Mr ErneBt _Jousb should bs proceeded with It , _however , appearing that Mr Jones had only given notice of motien , the subject stood over .

      THE NATI'NAL petition . Mr _Kynn moved that a return slvm'd be made fr fil every delegate ol the number of signatures obtained to the petition in bis district . The motion having been seconded , Mr _Haunev add , tbat after wbat had _oceu'rei last _nij-ht , it was evident that the usual mode of tbe people _expressing their _sentiments was perfectly useless . He believed that lhe sipatures seat from Nottingham were genuine , but to prove their genuineness , he would suggest that tbe men of _Nottingham should put their names to a document , p ertgirg themselves to constitute themselves into a National Guard , as the mnst convincing answer they could give to those who denied the number _•» . ( Cheers . ) Until that _was _^ done he would never risk his life . It t _' _lat was done , and done to the extent of the alleged Mgnatures to tha National Petition , then _ws might defy tho Committee of tbe House of Commons , and the _lloine of Commons _itaa f . ( _Cheers . )

      M- _Ebnrst Jones believed that it w . mld be found that the number of signatures re-ally affixed to the _Petition were underrated nther thau overrated . JHear , hear ) There were 200 . 000 _auna'ures now iyinir at the office ; he had been _udvised of 47 , 000 , which wcresentfrom Halifax on Thur .-day last , which ha 1 never como to hand ; and he had no donbfc thnt many _sheets dad been Jost at the _Po-t-office , or otherwise wav laid . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr Adam 9 moved , as an amendment , that the Convention _weiuld _undertake . _t- \ procure a greater number of _yenuine _Binnaturea to the petition than it was represented to have _h-. d , if the government were prepared to consider that an argument in favour of its consideration . A fcer a discussion , and the previous question being moved , the meeting adjourned .

      AFTERNOON SITTING . Mr M'Grath took the chair at lislt ' -past two . Up n tbe roll being cdled Mr _Wheblbb rose and stated , officially , that Mr B . O'Brien had resigned . Mr Harney moved that Mr O'Brien had acted with great disrespect to the Convention by the irregular manner in whioh be bad vacated his seat . Mr Cuffay seconded the motion . An amendment , moved by Mr Kvdd _, and apconded by Mr Stevenson , _tvas put to the meeting ; but , after some discussion , the original motion was put and carried unanimously .

      Mr Harney asked by what authority a man ba 4 been placed at tbe door of tbe Convention rattling a money-box , asking subscriptions from the public ? The Chairman said , that the cause advocated by the Convention was that ofthe public , and it audit to be supported by the pubiie . He would tak- * care , however , that the bix should not bo obtruded , for the future , upon those entering the hall .

      ADDRESS TO THB TRADES . Mr Wamer then brought up the report of tbe committee appointed to draw up an address from the Convention to the trade * unions , callim ; upon them to join the Convention in their efforts to procure tbe eDaerment ofthe" People's Charter , which , upon the motion of Mr Adams , was carried unanimously . L « _-ttera were then read by various delegates containing aonounts of numerous meeting !' , particularly of one at Aberdeen , held on _Tuesday last where a resolution was come _ti for the formation of a National Guard . This announcement was received with loud cheers . Several persons , it was « tateef , had already enrolled themselves in the National Guard . ( Loud chees . )

      Mr Stevens said , he waa desirous of mentioning that he had received a letter informing him that , in consequence of h s having been elected a member of the Convention , he waa to be deprived of his situation . He was in the employ of a _Whia alderman—( ories of' Shame' )—and he sbould not only lose hiB situation , _but , he understood , that all the ether clerka who entertained similar opinions with himself would be ordered to leave . ( Shamo . )

      TRACTS FOR THB PEi PLR . Mr Ernest Jones said he would postpone his motion for a _national tricolour , seeing that the motion was carried , seconded , and suppotted on Mondiy last . ( Cheers . ) He had ( > however , a motion to submit respecting tho issue of tracts , and he _thoughfi thnt , without Sying in the face of nots of Parl ' ament , there wera some _c'ass s whom they _nrgl-t call u _, on . and explain what they might _exprct under a democracy . ( llear . ) Among the _clar-809 to whom ihey might thus appeal he might mention tbe _i ail way labourer * and miners , and also their brethren in Irehnd . There wera aho many _districts of ths country ,

      where a little enlightenment was necessary . He proposed that the Chartist tracts _sdiouM ba _eratuitously distributed in pome _iuttances , and that in others thoy should be sold at the lowest possible prices . Mr Jones concluded by proposing a motion in favour of the publication of Chartist tracts . ( Cheer . " . ) He would add , that the _ohjfc ! he had in view was not to instruct people as to what the _Charior was—as it would ba too late to begin that now when tbey hoped to bave the Charter in a very Bhoi t _timu , but simply to show certain sections of the community bow the Charter , when obtained , would benefit them individually . Mr Stevbnsseconded the motion .

      The _CHArRJtxv accorded to tbe motion his most undivi' _-od assent . There was , he belie » ed , avast _msfli of people who were not to be approached either by lectures or publio meetings , who could only , in fact , be incited tothe consideration of a subject through the medium of tracts and _pamphleta . Let themtaks Colonel Sibthorp— ( A laugh )—that _gentleman in tho house last ti gnt _deelated that the Charier was a hnmbug . ( A laugh . ) Now ho believed that ( _. entlcman wanted _enlif-luenment on the _subject ofthe Peoole _' _s Charter . The motion was put and unanimously carried . Mr Dixon said , as the object contemplated by the previous resolution would require some money for carrying it out , he sbould propose the formatiou ofa tract fond for tbe purpose .

      A subscription of £ 1 , whieh was thrown from a _Btranger present on to the table ofthe delegatea , was at this juncture received with considerable applause , and a contribution of shillings and sixpences rearmed the sum of £ 1 . 18 s . 6 d . M . * Kydo stated that he had been commissioned on the part ol the subscriber of the _sovereign , to add a recommendation that a committee of ladies should be appointed to distribute tho tracts , a _recommends tion whion was received with _tumultunu ? applause . Messra Ernest Jones , Kydd , _Leath / _vSneeler " Clark , and M'Grath were appointed a comniittoe tor the purpose of preparing tracts ,

      _ADDnESS TO THE QUBES . _lutfT _? RSKST 3 _oNB 3 tUQ b _- -ou *' it iorward his ro ; o-• That this _. Gonvenlijn prepare a memorial to _1 V « Queen , pnyug her to dumiu he y minister ™ to

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      call to her counoih men pledged to make the _People ' s Charter a cabinet measure , and to dissolve her parliament , as not representing the feelings and _enlightenment of the people ; that such memorial be adopted at _si-nubaneous meetings in Grfat Britain and Ireland on Good Friday next , and entrusted to the National Assembly for presentation , and fer giving effect to the cause . ' Ih moving the _resolfttion he tvas only calling upon them to act in accordance with previous resolutions which tiiey bad come to , determining that if the National Petition were rejected there _s-hould be no more petitions to parliament , but tbat they shonld .. ii _t _. u ..-: i- _„ i = j „„ ,- f « mat ™ the

      address the Queen as ( he last authority to which they could appeal . They would be doing their woik in a very _bundling manner if they resolved upon any ulterior measures until they bad tried this fair and constitutional method . But it would be an act of humiliation for them to petition tbe House of Commons again . ( Hear ) The Howe of Commons might pass the worst act it pleased , but if ever the _Chartists addressed tbat house , it ought to be by remont ancr , or protest , not by petition . He considered their petition bad been virtually rejected , and they were , therefore , justified in coming to the conclusion h it they ought to memorialise her Majesty . ( Loud cheers . )

      Mr Walter ssconded the motion , and _observed that , if ever the monarchy were put an end to in this _country , such a result would not he promoted so much by the proceedings of the Convention as by the advisers of tha Sovereign , who _prevewted her listening to the opinions and _jidvice of the people . ( Hear . ) After some _disoussion , the _motion was unanimously carried , and a committee appointed to draw up a memorial to the Queen ; the committee to oonsistof MtBsrBErne 9 t Jonea , Walter , and Harney . It having been resolved that Mr Ernest Jones should be sent on a mission to Scotland , to prepare the way for the National _Aaat mfaly , and leave of ah & ence having been given to various delegates , the Convention adjourned .

      ( From our Fourth Edition of lost week . ) SATURDAY MORNING , Ann . 8 . The body resumed its sittings to-day , Mr M'Grath again presiding . THE UlNKTEBIAIi MKABUHE FOR PROTECTING THB

      _CttO-SS AND THE _OOVERNUENT . The names of the members having been read over , and the minutes of yesterday confirmed , MrFEARous _O'Co . vnor spoke of tbe new measure tor the protection of tbe Crown and the Government , which it was most important should bs duly considered , for a more monstrous measure had never been proposed by any Tory Government since the days of George III . It professel to be a measure of leniency , for it proposed to relax the law in those cases of treason which were difficult of proof , and m & ke'theta felony , liable to the punishment of transportation for life ; and they also _propo-ed to make words adviEedly _sptdwnand wri ten felony , and liable to the same punishment . Lord John Russell

      explained that to mean any act that would be _compassing the death ofthe Queen . Now , he ( Mr O'Connor ) contended that eo prosecution could be maintained for such a crime until the act oceurred ; and if such a thing should t » ke place six or eight months after a _ipeech was delivered , some astute lawyer might Bnd _sufficient in a _speech reported by a policeman or _reopeetable solicitor , upon which to hang an indictment _itid there would be no possibility of answering it . In other countries they were extending tbe liberty of the prews , whtle bere thay were about to circumscribe it . Ministers told tbem it was a most mild law , and that its object was to protect the peaceably disposed chkeua against the attempts of the evil-disposed , who created _confu-ion and alarm . The real obiect

      of tho bill , he believed , was to apply it as a Coercion Bill to Ireland , and moet tho esses of Meagre Mitchell , Meagher , and others . The Government were asked if these were the _remedial measures _, which they promised Ireland ? to which they _replied that they wou'd give equal measures to both countries . If he _thought it was the intention of one ofthe Chartist body to do anything that could bring about a collision witn the authorities , he would be the first to oppose their _meeting , ne might mention that Sir De Lacy Evans claimed protection for his constituents , who were alarmed , and their business injured , by the demonstrations of the people . Mr Wakley reminded the gallant officer that in 1831 he told his constituents tbat , if the Reform Bill was

      _refused , he would put himself at the head of 100 000 men and march to the p dace and demand it ; but now that the Whig party were in power they appeared to see with diiferenteyes . Hecoaldnot see why the government should mix themselves up with the crown , as by the constitution , the crown and the people ought to be equal . ( Cheers . ) If they had the Charter they could not have a bad Sovereign , bat without the Charter it was very possible to have a bad government . This , he could assure them , that thia time they would have a full , fair , and calm hearin ;; on the subject of the Charter , aDd many _member . _i had told him that though they did not approve of the wholu of the principles of the Charter , they Approved ot one or moro but , aa he would not abate one of those principles , those members

      ware determined to brin _* forward the portions of which they did approve themselves , so that , instead of being only one deb _» te , there would be six or seven . There would , no doubt , be a large body who would vote in favour of tbe ballot , but they all knew that with the present constituency the ballot wonld be useless , for , when the middle classes could vote under a mask , they ( the working classes ) would lose that moral influence over them by exclusive dealing and otherwise which they now possessed . Once more begging them not by any act ef theira to break any link in the chain by which they were gradually working their way to the attainment of tbe object for which they were banded together , he hoped that some honourable _member would move that he have leave of absence for the remainder of the day . ( Loud cheers . )

      Mr West said tbat 3 depntation had been yesterday appointed to wait upon Lord John Russell , and point out to him the real state ofthe working classes A letter having been drawn up to send in to Lord John Rssaell , explaining their business , which met with Mr O'Connor ' s approval , the deputation shortly after retired to wait upon his lordship . Mr _Rktnolds _wished to know whether Mr 0 ' _0 > nnor thought there waa any chance of any portion of the Charter beine carried this session . Mr O'Conaok s « d _fcn . _* 6 it was impossible to answer that question , as sora _* were for Universal Suffrage , ome for the Ballot , and some , and he might add a very strong party , in favour of Triennial Parliaments . ( Cheers . ) Mr Cvvfay moved for leave of absence from the Convention for Mr O'Connor , whioh wa 3 seconded by Mr _Wiht . and carried .

      Mr O'Connor said it was intended to read the bill of Sir G . Grey a second time on Monday , and probably thu . standing orders would be suspended te allow it to _passthrough a committee , and perhaps passed . There O _^ u ld bene , doubt of its speedily passing through the Lord . " , and it would become law in the course of the week . Mr Clark thought that they ought at least to take some measures to endeavour to mitigate , if they could not stop , Sir G Grey's Bill . Ue believed that il de . putatious waited on the princ ' pal liberal members © f tbe Ilouse of Commons to ask them to endeavour to organise auch an opposition for Monday next , as to prevent lhe bill then passing the second reading , time might be obtained for getting the opinions of the people upon it . The speaker concluded by moving hitresolution .

      Mr Donovan seconded the motion . A long discussion ensued , which resulted in the motion baing earned , and the Convention adjourned till half-past two .

      AFTKBNOON SITTING . Mr M'Grath resumed his chair . Mr _Ebnkst _Joseb said , a paragraph frora a letter he had received , set forth that policemen attended tho _sitiinu oftho Convention , in p ' ain clotheB ; that they rose aa the delegates rose ; got if possible into conversation , and insinuated themselves into their confidence , and then _suggested acts and deeds of an ilie ? al kind . Mr Wkst reported that that he had attended at the Home-office , but had not been able to see Lord John Russell . Mr TattersAiji reported that he had waited on Mr Suarman Crawford , who said he would oppose Sir George's Grey ' a Bill , and he would _support the National Petition , and tho People ' s Charter . Mr _Pmrih reported that he had seen _Roundell Palmer , who said he muse support Sir G Grey ' s bill , but talked with great courtesy on the People ' s Ctarter . y

      Mr brain _Jm » B _8 said , he had seen Lord Morpeth who reoeived them courteously , and advised them to wait until they hud _seon tha bill . That it would not give much increased _stringency to England _, although it would inorease tho powers of llw i , ? r ? lanA » L _7 d M l _^ th tbea « 8 kedfaim what they he was not in a position to answer , unless he would _reooBiuw torn as a member of t . e _Contention . He did so , and then he told bim they intended to join the _tm s , on L tt , at % h _'J _in _^ _ded tb go oeaceaolv and that they should 10 themselves rsedy £ . Si anv one into custody who broke the law y Mr _LiNAar had seen Mr _Thornley . the member _lewlln _? _^? ' _' inclined _tHS lie was m favoar ot some poiats of tho Charter

      _ituroaivoe a , bill , as then they would be b-tter _obi « _t , d . sc « As regards the bill of S _?& to ' » i v _^ found i fc of the nature they atuSSud /' sheuld decidedly vote against it * " * _* _"P - . he t ** V $ _T l Sa u ' he _" _•«* seen Mr Cowan , ' a V ! ? . * _kwnburgh _, who would not _Dledfre S ; " Sir GeorseG ( _' _,, ' bill deferred ? g 8 tam * to _S _voKr 0 Tart , S _^ _taU and regretted that _^ S _^ _ZST jS early period _waittd on _menUm and t _\ i t WiJi M- _ffoa M not e _^ t . , ana Uen so » luch

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      Grey wished it to be understood that the re . _aa „ r / ' $ did not see the deputation yesterday , wag _jofewllr _^ caused by his being en / aged from early in the mn « , _* ll _eH ing until late in the afternoon . _jM _^ _S Mr G . J . IIabbey wished each delegate to coi » W % municate with his constituency to name some _pcrs ? " 4 _^ 1 to fill his plaoe , should they be absent against thei ? ft jl Trills on Tuesday morning , their credentials \ 0 _g J ! _^ the hand wri i ing of the delegate now _sitting _bacfo" ? \ vM by tbe Chartist Council of the place lor which th » _ti'M delegate sat . They would meet and proceed to th » V jf _presentation ofthe Petitien—peaceably and I-gallT W $ —simply desiring to show that the raen of tbe , / Um vinces sympathised with the men of the metropol is I ' ll in tbeir desire for the Peop _' e ' _a Charter ; their _deiiira 1-1 being simply to ebtain justice lor thersselvis , and to \ M do _injustice to none . _•< _vi Mr _Ernest Jones rose to second the motion , and _/^ said , it was the duty of this Convention to be pie . _>^| pared with successors . " _^ 1 Mr Watson cordially supported the motion . _t >* jj Mr _Dot-ovAtt said , he should move an amendment _^ « t 1 as he thought it was nothing more nor less than dtf ! \ _^ _potiflm , and be would not think of doing any thing „{ , «* Jj the sort , and hence he would more that in the event \ _^ ef either of the contingencies happening , tho _people H _should bave the opportunity of electing our sue . _CiJ cessors . t y _* A The ? amendment beim _* seconded . [ _i Sj MrT . Clauk moved , That the simultaneous meet , _J r _^« ings have the election of successors in the event of [* "" _$ the contingency alluded to . j * _^ Mr Cvvrj . 1 seconded it . ' it MrT . M . Wheeler supported the motion of % Mr Harney ; these were extraordinary times and de . -j j manded extraordinary means . * i J

      Mr Retsouw said , bo would also support the mo- ij tion of Mr Harney ; no vacancy sbould be left for g ' j single moment , in the event ofa contingency arising _; \ m it would not be a despotism , because it would be j J J liable * o the confirmation of the people . _^ _> Mr John _Wesrsaid he would support the motion el hA Mr _Ilarne-y . Ic was our duty to show the _goverc . _. ' j ment that , were they to take the whole of the _presetfc ! , * j members , there would be a similarjttumbsr to take * j their places—ay , or others should it be required , lie X | could not , for the s-tke of humanity , believe that tbe I ' reports spread , that the government intended to en- I _^? gaze men ta go into the ranks of tho procession , o « _^ _^ Mondayto _create a riot that the government might r ' i

      , _ha-re an opportunity to mow i > _s down—he repeated , | •} be did not believe any such assertions , but thatthe r i procession would g Mr Adajh did not s _^ e the _slightest necessity for [ if any bravado -. they were pursuing a peaceful—a legal 1 , 4 —and constitutional course . He thought they weie ' . _¦» wrong in ant c ipating an onslaught ; Buch discussion ; | was calculated to provoke feelings of hostility . What I P right had the government to make an onslaught * f a

      The question had yet to be decided in a court ot law , | whether we hsd or had not the right , he , therefoie , 1 moved as an amendment , ' That this Convention has | no right to anticipate an onslaught or the arrest of * tho members on Monday next . ' Ij Mr Cochrane seconded the ; amendment . He be . n lieved , were the government to attack and _^ _auga- -J iertte _paella , 90 much sympathy wonld be evinced , 1 r _j that they would not continue their governmental funeitions an _Iwur afterwards . I j

      Mr Charles M'Cartht should support the propo- \ _>> sition of Mr Harney . [ Mr Wilo said , a court of Jaw had been mentioned , , '

      but he believed the only court of law the government would try would be _Kennington-common—the sol dier _* , police , and specials . Mr Wm . Dixon rose to support the motion of Mr Clark , and said , he always considered it was well f . r us to act consistently ! and hence , he said , let the di * . ti-ict have the power to send a man , should a contin .. _yency arise ; bnt , with Mr Adams , he did net _anticipate any opposition to our peaceful meeting , lie had done nothing worthy of either bond * or death yet . He had simply said , openly , that he intended _, to do his duty . Mr Gkahau sug _? ested the words , ' or at some pubiie meeting as noon after as may be , ' should ba added , to which Mr Clark acceded . Mr _LisNKYaaid , some gentlemen appeared wishful to have a taste of prison . He bad tasted it , and ha thought Mr Clark ' * the ri _^ ht mode of proceeding .

      Mr Bolwell did not think it right lo _prejudge the government , and would support Mr Adam ' s proposition . Mr Jones ( of Liverpool ) said , he thought the _adt vice tendered by Mr Tanner , that they simply should write to th ir constituents , ani wait their _rt ply . Mr Leach said , he could not have such an apprehension that they were to be blown away by can . non on Monday morning , particularly , alter Lord John Russell's declaration last night— 'That the pe tition should be treated with respect , ' and consequently he _tbouj-ht Mr _Adams ' s motion the best . Mr Tatter'al did not like either of the mation _. Should tbe occasion arise , there would be plenty wil . lin > and ready to take our p ' aces . ilr Adams and Mr Clark rose to express their _willingness to withdraw their resolutions , if Mr _Hnrney would withdraw his .

      _MrJ-Mjus , on the part of Mr Harney , could not consent . Mr Shaw said , he could not agree with any of tha propositions , t . hey were all uncalled for . Mr Kydd said , it was all _nmsenae to talk of pre * judging the eovernment , bad not the government issued a proclamation doing away with the right of meeting ? Had they not been ordering the military to practise street firing , and caused all tbe physical force feeling that existed 1 He supported Mr Harney ' s motion . i

      Mr Ernkst Jones m reply—for Mr Harney—said , Mr _Uaruey had experienced imprisonment , and hence that allusion would not fall on him ; and he l Mr JoneB ) had no desire for martyrdom . As to being undemocratic , h _? conld not conceive how the proposition could be called so . The government were now prepared to crush us ; and it would infer weakness if there were divisions ; he , therefore , begged that the Convention would pass this unanimously , so that the government reporters might not say there was division .

      __ The _Chaihuan said bethought Mr Clark ' s resolution _was _ the one that from its simplicity recommended itself to them . There wero times when thoy were nod abie to adhere strictly to democracy , but those times had nut yet arrived . Mr Clark sup . pojed tbat the people who sent you hero should have the right to elect your successors . Why it it had b _.-en said we had no right to anticipate any interference , —we certainly had reason to anticipate it ; or why this training of soldiers ? thia making ef policemen ' s staves ? He anticipated that their govern _, ment might take some members ot the Convention into custody on Monday morning , and hence ho would support Mr Clirk ' _s amendment . Mr Adajh , by consent , withdrew his motion in favour of . Vlr Clark ' s , The question wa ' . then put , —fourteen voting fur Mr Harney ' s , and twenty-eight for the amendment ol Mr Clark . Several delegates declining to vote .

      Mr Clarke _' a amendment was thereto re declared to be ca tried . Mr Jones aaid he had received one thousand signatures from the town of Dartford in Kent . One thousand signatures wer < s also veceivsd from the royal town of Kensington . Mr Churchill placed a note in the hands of tho Chairman , offering the sympathies of a body of Frenchmen , but the Convention- declined to receive it- Mb _RuYf * 0 LO 3 said he _h-ld the credentials of Mr _ChursUll— it simply said he came from a democratic society in France , who effered their sympathies with the parties _meeting here . Mr Child said , thay were not here _ai _conspirators ; they simply men nere to _obtsia political and social rights .

      The Chairman said , thero seemed to be a misunderstanding _^ The gentlemen came simply to offer the sympathies of the aeii of _Praneo with the men of England , and he thought they should reciprocate it . Mr Thomas Clark moved : — ' Thatthe sympathies _, of the men of Franoe be received ; and duly reciprocated . ' Ho could understand ! that hia friend Mi * - West , meant that they shwldnet appear desirous ot seeking French aid . ( Heat , bear ) Mr John West said Mr Claris had rightly unto-. stood him ; hut in tha virw statedby hira he , _con curred and would withdraw his , and mom * Mr Clark s motion The motion waa then * p « t , and carried _ananU _mously . The Conference then adjourned tilt Monday morning , at e Viht o ' elook . _^

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), April 15, 1848, page 8, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns3_15041848/page/8/