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and societies , and _revolution _J _^ _£ t j £ * _££ dombef « re thero -was any pa ' 1 cm mum » And sueb most be the stat * ot _^ _tan , « nth is c _^ tr / . if the f . _expression of P _*« _- ; ° P "" . h tem . ted to be put down . C _«" r r centralisa . days of ' the R * _m BJ _^ _- / _S _;^ Yirtua , turn of _f- _^^ f pnbiic voice there , had prosuppress ion of the puw d . _^ _^ _gT _motion cf the dep lorable effects of inch aKemptt to drown the _popular voice , he * ould ask them to look to America , wnich they had forfeited by their oppression , ibe people of America presented petitions ta that house ; their _remonstrances _wew not listened to ; and they had _recoup at last ta the principle contained ici the apothegm of the _NabbsLwl at the bead ofthe _lrea-Rurv and the Secretary of State for the Home Da
_wt-nent , viz . that moral power was but a shadow , and fiat phvsieal force was . a substance . America , then , wa < _lwt _, and from the news which be had recentlv received irom Canada th-. t country also _wuldbe _lost unless they © rote-fed tj yje . d to the Canadians their just political _rights C * nada _* - _fce'Ied _, and _Canada obtained iti Parliament . \\ _c . l , then , when thsy saw these things-when they saw thst , contrirv to the promise made at the time of the Reform Bill , thnt this couatry should be _governed by local imt t 'tions . all power was ben _gcentrailed in that honse—he called _upin the really patriotx men on bath sides of tue house ti resi > t _tnis measure , wbich , would C , n _* l-B p . the OH of the Attorney-General , the _judges a > d ?; ury of the land
and to heavy _penalties every man of capacity and mind who should hereafter , by writing or speaking , _aoittte for _Dooular rig ht-. Was it cot notorious th » t _xte were _prVreisir-g in manufacturing and mechanical _imr-r _^ vements beyond any _ot ' _-ier _c-r . unt _.-y in the world ? By _roe-un of the esectnc te : egrapb , railroad travelling , penny _postage , and other im-Brovemenu . we are enab ' . ed to take a stand _preeminently abive ail other nations , and was it right that the new and active genius _whiefetBose improvements had created in this country . should be opposed bv _retrogressive _Ic'isUton such aa this ? Was it right _that the _progress 0 : 1 c of that _hoise should be met by au unconstitutional ' base , brutal , and iitoodv' Bill within « ( Hear , hear , hear . ) - He could
call it by no other name . Whatwas t _! l ' s " Coercion Bill against the free _interchsttue of mind amongst the people of England ? _If-it passed , t * ien w juW that freedom of expression ot opinioa which was the boast of Ecgland be changed iato slavery _, and the free voice of England be changed into muteness V 7 e should then he placed under tiie ban and control of the _AtKraey-General-then the Attorney-General ought to be Prime Minister in that bouse . He meant no insult to the _honourable and leirned gentleman who no-v . filled the office of Attorney _Gtnjra ' , whose talent , sngacity , and clemency he m _^ bt say , _entitled him to to the highest admiration . His remarks applied to the ofii : e it-elf : for , under lhe new law , tbe
_Attorcev-General would have the piwer of z Prime Mmis -er . Bu . t he ( Mr O'Connor ) waa _nsi willing to surrender his ri g hts , nor the rights of any e ! as 3 in this ceuntry _, to the system to be created under sueh s . bill as this ( Utar , hear ) Again , he repeated , that if such a bill as this had been introduced into the house when the noble lord now at the head of the government was on the Opposition side of the house , the blood of a _Kussell woald have been roused in ' . o madteis to think that thc law _uider _which his ancestors suffered _w-.-s about to ha reenacted in the _prrssnt age . They had had ample proof from the history of yesterday ' s proceedings , ss stated by the _rh-ht hon . baronet ( Sir G . Grey ) himself , thit there was no _necersi'y lor this Wil . They Sad ample proof that the loyal Orangemen of
Ireland did not ask for such a b . ii as _ihis . Above ail , be protested against the unconstitutional attempt of the government to tr . ck itself to the Cruwn bybringing in a bill fer th 8 batter security ofthe Crown and government . If this bill were passed , then the government would be able to perpetuate _itself in oSee . He would tell ihem candidly that he did not- _attach that importance to Ministers speaking from that side of tha hausu whieh he did to independent _members _speakins from the Opposition and "Ministerial benches . He did not place much conS dence in the fervid eloquence of Ministers , tbe eff _. _-ct of which they sought to increase by bollly slapping the red box ou the table of the house . He cared very little for tke big swelling words in which
they solemnly proclaimed their -intention and determination to uphold , by all means , the dignity and the power- of the Cro-vn and their own government . The echo to that was ' Quarter-day . ' ( ' near / and kmihter ) That was the only _constructieu which he could put _up-. _'D it . Provided there was free discussion in this country , he had no objection to a _monarchy , elective or hereditary . If they passed this b-. il a man would come under its operation , not on ty for _advisedly _ _speaking , but for advisedly thinking or dreaming , as had been said by the _honourable gentleman thc _member for the eity of _Oxfard . [ Ie warned those who now supported this bill that tbey would bs the first , to smart under its operations . ( Hear , hoar . ) Honourable
gentlemen who supported the hill had carried on the Reform and Free Trade agnation , which system of _advocacy ii would crush . Tluy hr . d not even refused their sanction to demonstrations who .-e motto ¦ was ' Bread or _bl-joJ . ' _Cordsaljy _ashe now approved of ths monarchial system , yet if this bill passed he Bhould declare himself a _RepuMlcau _, at ail events-He _confes-ed he was _astooisbed by what he bad read respecting a nobleman _* bo had _spekea in another place on the previous evening . The noble lord to _whomhertferod had stated _Jbat one policeman dispersed the _B-hole of tbe meeting on Keuningtor _, Common . There could ba no _greater fallacy , ignorance , or folly , than for a minister , in the performance of his duties to make _snch __ a statement . ( Cheers ) The fact was , that a policeman came to bim ( Mr _O'Cosnor ) at the meeting , and told him that Messrs Rowan and Wayne wished to see him , a 3 they had a message from the Home Office . Fearing that tbe
people might molest the policeman , be ( Mr _O'Connor ( said that he would _knotk down the first man that touched hia , and he made them give tha po lieeman plenty of room . The people obeyed him , snd were they , on that account , to be met by a jeer ? 3 e cautioned that honse not to laugh at the people when their _coudact wa 3 so perfectly peaceable , it vrould atrord them a bad precedent . He ( Mr O'Connor ) was not exactly ia a state of health to justify bis occupying the house any longer in this stage of the bill , and particularly a 3 he had already expressed Ilia views upon it . He pretested against a government which moeked Ireland by _making it equal with England in its participation of punishment , but refused to put her upon the same _iosting with regard to political _riahts . After _eulogising the epeech of the hon , member far Bolton ( D _.-Bowring ) , and that ofthe hon . member forthe IWer Hamlets ( Mr G Thompson ) , he concluded by calliHg npon the Liberal membera to oppose every stage oftho bill .
Mr Hoessi & n gave his modified _support to ths bill . Mr Hoke said that the present bUI was the worst attack made on public liberty since _hehaS a seat iu tbsth : > us =. lis warned to ksow w ether the words Of the clause objected * o would _sffrc * members of that house _speaking in ihtir places ; and whether , for words _gpoken in tbat house they would bs liable to be transported to Bitany Bay ? This bill was a violation o ! all _constitutional right—a right to which he attributed a great portion of the liberty of England , He also wished to know from 'he _right hon . gentleman ( Sir G . Grey ) whether what had b _^ en stated by a cabinet minis .
ter in another place was true , that the meeting of Menday had bsen dispersed by a policeman , or whither they _dispersed of themselves ? Tie house mi g ht not be aware ofthe effect which _lfon 1 a 3 ' _s meeting would produce on the continent . What would _foreign governments think -of tbe Duke of Wellington having to be called out , and _Somsrsct House , and other p lacs occupied with horse , foo _. and _arvUltiy _. _iiiorlerto suppress the meeting of lloaday % He _believed that all they did was to create suuaueceesary . _ahirai ; anel that they did much mischief by their unnecessary preparations . He _bsliived that a continuance in such a sjste . ii wonld be productive of serious _consequences to tbe liberties of England .
Col . _Siethoep tendered bi 3 best thankB to the government and to the ri g ht h < sn . gentleman the Secretary of State for the Home _Deparimfut , fur the _firmness be exhibited on Monday , and tbe determination he showed in proposing this bill . He hoped the government would not alter a word of the measure , an i he only _regretted ¦ that it was not ten _txmts stronger . With respect to thc _oues-. ion of the hon . _member for Montrose , he had no . hesitation in sajtns : that if that hon . gentleman violated the act in that house he would move that the hon . gea . _tlemen bs committed to the Tower . Mr _Aghokbt supported , aad Mr Gbattah opposed the bill .
Hr JtsrKoLnS _eontanaed that so venal were juries in ilia country , that no man would be safe from _sovernjnent persecution if this bill were passed , the more _esserially that convictions under it would shut out the possibility of that appeal to the House of Lords which cad remedied the iBJastke done by a packed jury to 3 Ir _O'Coanell and his associates . He appealed to the gallantry of the house to exempt , at all events , the ladies from the operation of the measure . As the bill _etood _aoy ofthe female tea and tract parties so prevalent in Ireland mi _^ ht be indicted for treason or sedition , if the compaHy _happened to turn the conversation upon political matters . ( A laugh . ) He denied that Ireland was disturbed . Thera were but two mwspapers tn _Bublin which inculcated violence , and in his confident
_bslitf newly _nine-hnndrscths of the population of Ireland repudiated the wild aad extravagant doctrines of these two journal } . Cork was quiet , Limerick _^ was quiet , Clontnsl , Waterford , Belfast , all the . towns of _Ireknd with large _papulations were quiet aael obedient to the law . ' There was indeed , dissatisfaction , for there was _Elmost universal misery . In the last eighteen months oae million of human beings had _eask into the grave in Ireland from _thser famine , and hundreds were etHl dying in tht same way every week that passed over _OOriiaadj . There was _fcut the other day a ease ia 6 _aijvey in which a mm was _Charged with _theep-stcahV , and it was , _indEcd , _proved that ho tad stolen the _animal fcnt under what _cireums ' _ai-. _ci-s ? "Wh y , _thejc : that his family and _hisstlf were absolute ;' . ? starving ; that two
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uaj » before oae of bis ch . ldren had died of famine , and that , in the desperation of hunger , the mother had _absalutcljrgniwed the fl . _esh from he * dead _cUlld's sum . _tJLll _thisitbaposr man had _wiinessefl before he commiated the act wiih which he was charged . The bon . _tnsifibir recotneended the postponement of any further proceeding with this biH until after E _isier . The _present-wsre angry ttmen , and the pupulir discontent should not be _ecasaerated . That _discont-et was now peaceful _enough , if one might judge from the bon . member for Nottingham * * Exhibition of yesterday _, _nvhlch had passed over as quietl _y as a _Qiakexs' a 3 eetiag . nH tho grand pr eparations of military tad police havteig proved quite unnecessary . ( Ohj ob . ) He feared he had-heart the feelinjts ofsome of ihe special constables of the . occasion— ( laughter ) - * tut he could not help thinking that their enthusiasm - * _ad _beenrr . e _« _dlesslv wrought up . _iEerepeated his _hopa * hat the _bii ! might be _iicitponed until after Easter .
_KrSiDisiB tupperted tbe bill , 83 a measure whtch , _wl / _ile it wouid tend to suppress tbe open and scandalous inculcation , by word or deed , of sedition or treason , _wouid not prevent the statement on the part of _the _^ peo p _4 e of Ireland of the grievances whieh were felt _threuuhout the width and bieath of-She couatry on the past , of all _oicsses . ! L' > rd _Johst _Rp . < _sell _stterlg denied that the _govatament-had _manifest-. d any indifference to the phjaiesl 8 u £ r _; _= iags of Ireland . ( _Hear , » bear . ) He had , indeed , said that it was not the busiaocs of the _governmeut 42 iaterfere between the rarious « Iations of social anel _icdu _^ _triMl life , but he had sever put forward _acy preposition that government dhl not consider thenu selves called upoa to como forward when measures < t ? tre required to meet _soare marked physical _destituti <» = in Ireland . ( Hear , hear . ) He could not have said auy sueh thing ; sueh & proposition would ha . ve _been tctal v opposed to the wbcle conduct of her
Maj _^ tVs government . ( Hear , hear , ) Last _yesr that _government hsd obtained the means from parliament of _prorieUtig daily relief for three _-fcillions of persons to-IreUnd-r ( hear , hear)—a step eertatnly evineing _noindiffjrenes to the physical condition of that country . In : the present j ear , again , although the poor law had b em placdta operation , tho government had Mt tbat , at so early a stage of its proceedings , tthe atttntion of tho _general gevernment might ati-1 be . needful , nnd he had , therefore , transmitted instructions -from tha Treasury to ! relan 4 , that in lhe event of peculiar suffering- Ba . nif > _-sting itself in any of tbe _untoas , whether from actual inadequacy of funds , or from the non-payment af their _ratestfcy persons able ta pay , -bat _exempted from payment by the negligence or connivance of the _col'eeeois . a report should bB made of _therfect , iu order that means of relief might be considered . He repelled , therefore , the suggestion that the government was _indifferent to the physical condition of _Iwlind ab wholly libellous and calumnious . ( Hear , hear .. )
Sir D . L _© _riss said that having on a former evening claimed oa the part of his constituents the protection of the government _against tho _vioieat and tumultu mt _proceedicii ! which w . re anticipated from tLemeet . ing of _yesterdaj , he felt it is his duty to take tbe firs ' opp rtunity that _presented itself of thanking minister f r the admirable arrangements which they had made against any violation of tho public panca . ( Hear . ) Ther . _naver had bern aa occasion when greater _provocatioihat been offered -to the authorities tban had been given by the menaces of those persona who encouraged anel
promoted the _prooeeaiajs of Monday , and if the whole city was not now _deploring the effects of those proceed _inssit was because the government bad done its duty . ( Hear . ) At the _BOHie time he must say that nnthinp could havo dene the inhabitants of Loodon and West _rafasttr great *! honour than tho conduct of the people generally _during Monday . The meeting was now characterised as contemptible . If it was so , the _goveruBieBt was : o be thanked for that fact . Again he bejgorl , on the part of his constituents , to reiterate his thanks to tbe
Mr _Mastebkav expressed some surprise ot the _obserrat _' _ons made by the hon . member for Montrose , ani had great pleasure iu returning thanks to _' the government for the exertions mid * by tha authorities to pr . serve the _psace i : the eity of which ho had the honour to be a _rc-presentf . livr . Sir G . Geet said tbat he had been asksd by the hon . member for Montrose a _question , to which be Mt it bi « duly to give a distinct answer . The hon . member _ittked whether ihe meeting had been forcibly dispersed by the p lice or whether it hsd been _peaceably separated . Hs _begged to state that the meeting was not forcibl y dispersed by the police , but that the police commissioners , acting under the authority of her Majesty ' s ministers , _tnd notified to the persons composing and heading it thit aoans- wonld bs taken to prevent the proeejsion ap . preaching tha House ef Commons or any of the public _e-ffijes , and thereupon the meeting . was peaceably dissolved _. But , at the samo time that he stated this fact , he must say tbat he coald no * admit the inference
drawn from it by the hou , _member for Montrosenanie ' y . that the pr _.-parationB were useless or uncalled for . ( _Hvar . ) It was those preparations , and the knowledge that they had been made , which gave confidence to the loyal and well-disposed _inhabitants of the _metropslis and 3 trw . k terror into the minds of the dlsaff cted and promoters of confusion . " ( Hear , hear . ) _Kottnuj _; could be mere meritorious then the conduct of tho great _bo- ' y of the people hadbeen during tbe whole of Monday ; and that _circumstancj would have its eff- _'ct throughout the country . Indeed , it had already , he believed , hnd a beneficial _effect , for tho _telegraph bad brought bim _Intelligence that morning t ' aat the best _ifi ' _cls had .-. _Ireody been produced in the _greit provincial towns . He , _therefore , entirely coincided ir _ the opinion that had been expressed , thatthe result would prove most _ben-ficial , rut onl y in England , but al _30 throughout all Europe , ss is would be manifest that the authorities had been aided in the performance of their duties by the cordial _co-opsration of the great body of the peopio themselves .
Mr Hosts said , that both the hon . and gallant member far Westminster and the righthon . _barom : t ( Si » G . Grey ) _hudmU-stated hia former observation . What he said waB . not that the _governmi nt were wron _? in niakiDg the _prcpsrations Ihey had done— on the contrary , be said they were right in so doing ; but that he thought them _wrsng in having created a very disproportionate dtpree of alarm , as compared with the reEl apprehensions they entertained . Mr F . _O'CoNifna said that before any communication Lad b ; eti received from the _commUsloaers of police , and even before the procession started , for tbe place of meeting , it had been resolved that tbe assemblage _thuuld disperse after they bad reached K ° nnington Common , and that no attempt to bave a farther proces sion to the hou _= e should be made . Mr S . _CaiwpiBD wished to know whether , as thebon member for Carlow had stated , there were , in future , to be no wituess ? s required to depose as to sedition fr treasonable expressions under the bill ?
Sir G . Geev . _tvouid answer the question when the bill was in committee _. On the motion that the Speaker do leave the chair , cries of divide , ' and' no , no ' were raised . Mr F . O'Connor said , tbat as those who promised to act faithfully with him in opposing the bill , cow cried ' no' to the division , on which the gallery was cleared . For going into committee ... 321 _AgainBtit ... ... ... 19—302 Ih committeo , on its arrival at the third clause , Sir G Gbet stated , that with the exception of the words now introduced fir the first time by ' open and _advis-d speaking , ' the powers given by the bill were precisely the same as ti 4 se contained In former and existing acts of parliament . The reason for inserting these words being , that the existing law was found In
efficacious as regarded persons who excited others to sedition and treason hy iheir speeches ; and in Ireland , even when persons who had used seditious and treasonable language wera subjected to prosecution for the same they were , under tbe existing law , still ablo to continue in the commission of tbat offence even during tbe intervel of their _IjeiBg accused and held to bail , and of their being tried . In order , therefore , to put an end to this state of _thiogs , it was proposed to make cases of this description felonious , because in that case , the _oflVmca would not be bailable , and , therefore , the _offending pirty would not have the epportunity of repeating his offence before he wss brought to justico . By a temporary act of 36 George III ., it was provided that , in order to bring any person within its operation , the information
of bis _haviag uttered treasonable or seditious expressions must be deposed to by twe witnesses , within three days of the time after the expressions were _uttered , and also that the person accused should be brought to trial within three months ofthe time when tbe deposition wns Uken . A similar enactment ministers were ready to insert in the _present bill , but tbey would not recede from the principle of making this cff _:-nce felony . After some debate , and a-variety of _suggestions for _alterations , amendments , _and omissions , Sir G . Grey Baid , that as it appeared that not only the words ' by open and advised speaking' were _orjectcd to , but also the whole wording of the clause , he should move that tho chairman report progress , and that the bill be _rc-commined this day at twelve o ' clock , which preposition wns agreed to .
The house reBuraed , and , adjourned shortly before four until five o ' clock . At that hour Captain Roshout raiveel the issuing of the Bewdley writ in the room of Mr T . J . Ireland , whose elect-on had been declared void _. Sir J . _Hanhee moved , as an amendment , that , inasmuch as the late member had been unseated on the ground of corrupt practices which prevailed in tho borough of Bewdley , the writ be suspended with a view to further inquiry . On a division , the motion for issuing the writ was carried by a majority of 42—the numbers 89 to Sd ,
Repeal of the Union . —Mr John O'Connell moved for leave to bring in a bill to repeal the legislative union between Great Britain and Ireland , and to enable Her _Majesty to Bummon her parliament of _Irtland . He commenced by drawing a wide line of demarcation between bis own sentiments on this subject , and the wild and mischievous menaces of tbe Irish Confederation , and then proceeded to declare his conviction that the Repeal of the Union between Great Britain and Ireland would bo of advantage not only to Ireland but to England _ttUo , end weuld add greatly to the strength of tfce empire at large . As at the time of the Union , there _tfag a treaty between the two countries for it , and as the articles of that treaty were subsequently embodied into a separate net of parlfamsnr , he _thought that the consideration of lhe ar _' -iclts for thc Repeal ef the Union weuld not be _injure-lby Jetting his bill tor _aeeompjisbicg that Repeal
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ce previously laid on tbe ( sole . He proposed tbat the preamble of his bill should declare the necessity of such k _Repeal—thnt IU first clause should enact tbat Repeal —that a f-llowlng clause- sheuld enact the integrity ol tbe old Irish House of Lords—and that another _clauae should recall into existence a House ef Commons ior Ireland , with 300 members . He then proceeded ar ; great length to allege that tha * rUnion , as it had _eiisted for tbe last iorty-Feveu years , was _unjus * . , injurious , and unwise —that it had begun _In-ioiusticf—that it had beea snaln _. tained by injustice—and lhat it still subsisted in injustice . Sir W _" , SoKEBPiiutiEiHiet the proposition of Mr Sohu 0 Cmnell witn a direct negative , and _enteredinto several statements to _peiint-out thednjury which the Repealof the Union would inflict upoa-Ireland , both _aociallsr-nnd politically .
Mr Blackall movod _,- * s an amendment to Mr .-John O _' Connell ' s motion , tbat-an humble address be _presented to Her _Majesty , praying -her to convene the Imperial Parliament in future _far _^ s . certain number of months in each year in Dublin > for the despatch of £ rieh _butluess . Mr _Maobice _O'CoKKBaL Apposed tho amendment , c _& A called up « n the houso not reject lightly the appeaJdD favour of Ireland the _appenLwhich his hoB . relatlvo . had just made to its _jeetics . ( Every reason which coutd ibo ur _* ed in favour uf Mr Slackall ' s amendment , _aj'pelleel with t . vnfold fores to the totaliltepeal of the _Uni / m .
r L _« rd Moepeth observed that hs should d _. ploto tha Repeal ct tiie Legislative iCnion for the _conseTquenees , which it would entail ien'G . eat Britain and the empire at lame ; but contended tbat _. _-dicnBtrouB as it might be to ; the unity , tranquillity , and safety of the country to which ; we belonged , it would be Btill . more grievous and fatal to ; the best interests of Ireland . t £ ut he agreed with the ' -views which had beea _expressed in an article in the _jJooRNAL des Debats , that it w _« _a not repeal or revolution that Ireland wanted , but regeneration . ( Hear , hear . ) The people of that country possessed many _attractive and brilliant _qualities : ; aad he would again re-. _peat what had procured censure ter him b . fore in Tork-. _sbire , that he believed there was . to be found a greater -e & _seace of theft amongst tbe _-malss , and more chastity aiiicng the females , of Ireland ithau in this country . _. ( _rB-eor , hear . ) There was greater kindness amongst
them one towards tho other . But _^ while ho paid what was "» sl a just tribute to their man ? rlrlue _» , 1 ) 0 could not-shut his _pjes to their failings . ; asd _the-y wanted tbo pitiant and persevering industry of the Saion 9 . ( Hear , hear ., ) He had heard it said in America that an _Irishman when placed between a Seotcbaian and a Yankee , was the perfection ofa settler , becanse . os Ihe one side bo _Icarnedtfrera tho sobriety and industry . of the _Scotchman , and on . the other side he was incited to activity by the _go-R-headedtiess of the _Yankte . ( laughter . ) Ho _believod that _tEuoh the same thing would tako place hy a c . _irdlal union _fcotwee-n the three countries . ( Hear , hear . ) Hiconcluded-Sy declaring that tho _governmect could not -jnJ weuld not abandon that union . The _dtbite ua _« then adjourned till Tbm _^ osy . The otbM-orders were disposed * f _, andihehouso adiourned ata . auarterto one o ' clock .
WEDNESDAY , Aran 12 . HOUSE OF COMMONS . —The home met M twelve o ' clock , and oa the question being repeat # d tbat tbe souse to into . committee en the Crown and Government Security Bill , MrG . _TaoKfsou rose to oppose the motion nn th ' _u-ronnd that the couatry wire in ignoranee of the nature -f this _measur" -, nnd had not had time to express its _opinian upon it . _ahhaugh it was one of the worst that had been introduced during tbe present century . lie could account for ita _introduct'on only on tbe supposition tbat the _government were panic-stricken by recent events ou the _continent , and had come to the conclusion that her _Majesty ' s throne was in danger from the depp _scRtetl disloyalty existing _throughout the kingdom . If her Majesty had been so _instructed if tho royal ear had been
an abused , tha ou ? ht to know that thero was no portion of British territory on which she could put her foot _wbt-ie she would not find a warm welcome at the hands of nil classes , ( Heir , hear . ) Bit the government couf > unded loyalt ,- to the Queen with obedience to themselves , ( near _, hear . ) He to _' . d thorn that there w « _o net n cabinet in Europe which less enj > yed the confidence ofthe p ople than the present government of this eountry . ( Heir , hear , ) They bad stated do ground for iniredaclng the measure . The right honourable * baronet hnd not _q-iotc _^ a single article or spe ch delivered in England , Scotland or Wales t' justify hira in applying this _measure to England ; and even iu _Ireland he had mrnly read articles which app _^ _ered ia the Nation and _Uki-tbd InisnHAN , and the _speeehes of a few _ptraons belonging to the Irish Confed-ration . Let tbem rare at the _Chartists 88 they
would—l _< t them rave ot the working classes as tmy would , and whilst they did eo eulogis ; the middle classes , and try to set one _again-t the other , yet ho challenged them to point out one case of the descri p tion to which he hadalludtd . He-knew manufacturers wbohadin _theiremplo \ m ? nt hundreds of _Chartists ; th « y wero trustworthy , they were _msn of intelligence , they were loyal men . ner _M"j , !! ty ' 8 government had not mado a concession te their _ju-. t demands , but had met them with an _un-EngSuh and unconstitutional law , and sought to deprive them of those privileges which all the governments cf Europe of the present dny were guaranteeing to their euhj _cts _, He denied , therefore , altogether , ( hat government badmade out a case for this bill . He was no-, here to _siy that some alteration of the law might not be necessary bb to particular individuals ; but he denied that government
hal any riant , by implication , to cast a false accusation in tbe teeth ol the people of this country ht large . It might be said that if _e-xprespions were used hostile to the style and titlo of her Mpjeaty , and the integrity of her dominion ' , tbat there waa no guarantee thatthey would not be made tbo instrument of _widespread operations throughout tho country . Let a man be obnoxious to those iu whose neighbourhood hc lived ; let bim be re . ported by an illiterate person ; he might be _ihstantlj committed ; no bail could be put in ; and when he came to take hia trial ; he was in an _iofiultel y worse position tban If he had been Hocused of hi gh treason . This law was either wautetl , or it was not . If it were wanted , ffor whom was it _wanted , and for wbat parti cul ar ends and purposes ! With regnrd to the people of _Iroland generally , tbey were not employing this lan
guage . Let tbe house know that the Chartists assembled on Kennington Common were but an insignificant fraction of the Chartists throughout the country . Where were not the _Ch-irtists ? You ceuld not travel east , west , north , or south , without finding them . He had never taken a Chartist aside into a room , that be had not fouod him as decile and teachable as any other member of tho community . Who were the Chartists ? The men who made tbo members of this houBe what tbey -were — the creators of tbeir luxury—the men without whom the country would be nothing—the men whose value could not bs computed with tbe value of any other class of the country . If he _wtre called on to say which was the most valuable class _, he should say tho working classes . They did not yield in intelligence to any other class of the community .
Thty read the speeches of members in this house with as much attention as any one ;> they neighed the value of every measure brought before it ; they were skilled in mechanical arts , and trusted by tbeir employers . Thi sis were the men whom you were ' branding by the present bill . How would the right honourable gentleman tbe Secretary of State for the Home Di-partment , nnd the noble lord , and the Attorney-General , whose names stood atthe back of the bill , answer to tho working classes of the country for this bill ! Do not outoo Mr Pitt in bis hostility to the privileges and rights of Unpeople . Do not outdo Lord Castlereagh , _wl-. o never . < ire » mt in tke days of the Manchester massacre of introducing such words as were in this bill . All he nelted for was delay . _If-this law were passed , and the people Isnor & ut of its intention , a man might te _visltod by a
magistrate ' s warrant , _and told fee bad committed o felony ; and when he asked how if was to be proved—be answered , proved by nn act which the people ' s representatives iu tbe Houso of Commons have passed without giving time to read it . He said that a more monstrous act waa never meditated than a passage of such a hill in 80 short a period of time . When ho heard tha * . the Government had summoned their adherents . to come down to the house to make this bill law , he despaired for any one who looked to tho government for the smallest instalment of tbeir poPtlcal _righta . Upon what principle did tho American colonies revolt , and justify that revolt In the eyes of the civilised world ! On the ground of taxation without representation On the
, imposition of the _S-amp Act and the duly on tea , the-y flew to arms , aad finally won their independence . The peopio who had come to this house , by their petition stood in precisely the _Bame relatlos to the government of this country now , as tha people of America siood to the government of England in 177 G , and the petitioners whos _* signatures wtre appended to tho potition were more in number than the inhabitants of the North American colonies at the time of their declaration of independence . WhlUt the words to which he objected remained in this bill he would obstruct It in every stage . The house was not thc friend of the people in passin g it " _. Gather their troops together as tbey might ; garrison _Somerset-bouse ; glery in thomujiBtic ottitude ofthe metropolis for a day :
_« But in these cases We still have judgment bere ; that we but teach Bloody instructions , wbich being taught , return To plaguo the _iaventir . This _eveu-handrd justice Commi-nds the ingredients of our poisoned chalice To our own lips . ' They were alienating from the Sovereign millions ofthe people by passing such a bill ns thia . Her Majesty ' s ministers would take the bill to her Majesty , and aBk for her sign manual , and commit her to the aot of troa . son ; but _although the peopio were despised by tbo House of Commons , and _looked upon with scorn , the day would como when they would havo tbat which every man was entitled to—a right to elect their own representatives In that house .
Mr . Osbobne very much fecr : d that ministers wero resuming tho course of policy of 1795 , with this difference , that tho descendants of those men who resisted Mr Pitt in his policy of 1795 wero bow installed in office , with much less ejjcuBo for _passing acts which Mr PKt dared not carry into _cxccuiion . They wer * trading upon & panic . A certain old Ind y had got into tbe cabinet of thenoblelord , and had boen txciting him to acts of terror , Nothing could be mora _dtspionble Hum the _nunntr in which the _govetnnunt put forward the Queen ' s _nome as a cover for their own _unconstitutional _demaneJs upon tho _parliannnt , Wh y her _MsjeBty W 83
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never more popular than she waB at the present momeut throughout the land . ( Hear , bear . ) It was , therefore , a cunning device , on the part of the _Ministers , to put the Oyicen in tho front rank , when it was their own policy which was unpopular . The Whigs of _lTSo-reslatcd the bill of tbat day ; but the government of that day did not attempt to thrust their bill upon the house with-OUt giving the people time to consider It . ( Hesi _; , ! hear ) Hc was surprised the other n ' ght , when the hon .- memher for Montroao allu _^ ea to the _caso of _Mnir , to hear him taunted by tbe bon . member for the University cf Oxford , who oaid he bad no sympathy _w'th _sui-h-a- man _orhlsfaie . But what -was _Muit's crime' _< Che > prime charge against hira woe _i-hat he had lent a copy _^ f Tom Paino'R works to a third parly , and be _« as coiwicted on _thP _evidence of his _siTviint-roaid of having said -that hc
fiought a _r-form of _thre . present system _nect-sesry . For _Ihishe was _sentto _the'hulka in irons and _transported for Fourteen years . _<* He _« r , heir . ) Mr Pitt in * K _95 did not ventura to carry sueh a measure as this ' , he withdrew tho obnorious elTOBe respecting ' open and avowed speaking' en tbe intercession of Lord _Grenvillo . He _wished there wns _some . ef lhe old leaven of _Woiggism in thnt house , _respcctfully . lo request tho Government to withdraw _thote words , which , if carried into law , would assimilate the _condition of this country to that of _Russia . Un _^ er the derctrine of constructive treason it wes impossible to say Wa & t proceedings might c it _bu brought within the prwinco of this act . In the newspapers of that very day a remarkable case was . cited which occurred in tho mien of C _orles II ., when it was held that tho destruction of brothels amounted to
treason . If these wordc had been law in 1830 , tbe hon . an-1 gallnnt member for Westminster ( Sir D . L Evans ) . and that excellent and nbleimsn , tbe right hon . member for Harwich ( Sir J . _Hohhouse ) , might bo sent to If .. r--folk Inland . Even MrMncanliiy might now bo accused of feloniously writing and sent out of the country for _eieven years , bf cause ho _joctifi-d the conduct of the Puritans in _bringing Charlte'I , to the block . ( A _l- > uu * n ,. ) 'Ea'bought this a slavish bill * { _ILiar , heir . ) _Circumsijanit'B might aris _^ in this eountry which would moke it _., thn duty ot every man to make war on the _sovire-uir . (¦ Seles of ' oh , oh from several members , and 'h _^ _-a-r _, hear' fiom Mr Hume ) . It they shut up the _isfe y votve , as it had boen well called , which freedom of ' speech gave to the peopl _" , the tendency ot such ah un constitutional monsuro weuld he to drive tho peopio tu
secret ond arroen confidcrocke . He weuld _diri-ctfhc _atteoiinn of the gentlemen of the Fox Club to the Ian . guago . which Mr Fox had used when speaking of the frecetoai of tho press and liberty of speech . _Hes ? . _id , ' Tho -power nn '* influence of the Crown _nresogreat that aK the liberty of this country is preserved by freedom of _speech and _Iffserty of the _pri-sn - , ani if those great barriers of liberty aro destroyed , though men may _sppak lew they will feel more , and arms will bs the only re 3 e _> _urce left them , either for redress for them _, selves or for _veneeanee upon their oppressors . If such a bill is passed , if such n line of conduct sbould he adopted , ro 6 _?« tnnce to it would be a matter of pruiiencr That was in W 95 ; bnt he would not go in'o any _compsrison with the man who made those ohserv . i ions and the Whigs of the present day : give them rope enough
and that was all they required . ( Laneri'frand sheer ? . ) If hon . and ri ? hfc lion , gentlemen on the Treasury bench disowned these -sentiments , let them abandon Brooks ' s , r . nd immediately become members ofthe FittCluh . ( A laugh . ) Ue lamented the state of parties in that house . The present was a government of _invalids — ( a laugh ) - who were _just the sort of people who always lasted longest . At one time they leaned for support on this party , then on that . On one side the right hon . baronet the memUer for Tumworth sewed them for a crutch , nnd nn the other tbe aid of the noble lord the member for Lvnn was invoked , while the party hy whose Hipporfc and under whose auspices the Whig * attained power were completely thrown overboard . ( Honr , hear . ) The greatest insult that _co-. ilel be on- ' . ? r <> d to liberty , the greatest dcro-Kat _> on to the rights of property , would be the conduct cf
thathnuce being in a hurry to pass acts of coercion while they held out no hopes of conciliation , illear , be _^ ir . Un ! oss Ministers wore prepared to tako tho initiative in measures not only _withi-c-iavd to this eountry , but Ireland , unless _thet could cheek the old _wom-m in the Cabinet , the government of the country would he in thc _greetest peril . Then wou'd it be necessary to bring in a bill for the better security of the crown and government . It was with the utmost astonishment he had seen it stated thnt an alien aet hnd been introduced elsewhere . ( Ironical cheers . ) A nob * e lord in another place paid Ve hud seen a number of Frenchmen walking nlnne the Strand ; Lord Brougham was excessively frightened , and the-v «¦(¦ re > . therefore to hava nn alien bill Mr Tilt's _iilien
bill was one of the first causes of war with France . The House of Lords and the panic-stricken majority of that house were pursuing a ciurse which would very probably plunge the country into war . ( 'Oh , oh !') Wouldnotthe government of Franee be iikely to say that we hod rcccivrd Louis-PlrPppe and , his Ministers , but resorted to an alien act in order to keep out those _foreiini-rs who had opinion ? of their own ? lie appealed to the good sense of tho country . They wero reviving the old Tory policy of 1795 . He should look with treat suspicion to the course pursued _ly the Fore ign Minister . (* Oh , oh !') lie remembered the interference of tho noble _liv-d in _Portugal , and if Ue got a good opportunity to meddle in the affairs of France , he very much doubted whether
there were not _certa'n influences at work thnt wor . ld plunge tlrs country into a continent" ! war . ( ' Oh , oh I 1 Ue hoped the _mir- 'dle _cPisses would not be carried away by a t .-mporary panic : that , the shopkeepers w < uld not tako alarm because n few windows had been Oroken , and that the peopio would yet stand firml y by those _liheral princ i ples which hon , gentlemen below him on the Trcasury bench had so disgracefull y deserted . After a few words from Mr _Aqmonby Mr _FuAnGus O'Connor _r-Spressed his regret and disgust , that Mr Reynolds had given way tii the appeal of the government ; but it only confirmed the opinion be had ever slated of the Irish liberals in that house , and lie repealed it \\ > w , that bad as even the present government was , it was too good for such a set . ( Hear , hear . ) What , was this one of the remedial measures for Ireland that was to have succeeded the _Cotrcion Bill ? and with what pomp thf
Attorney-General and the government told the house , that the object of this bill was to put England and Ireland upon a perfect equality , as regards the law of treason . ( Laughter . ) Would they put Ireland upon a footing with England , bad as that was in all other respects ? No , it was their Poland . Just at a lime when other nations were wringing concessions from despots , the reformimr government was curtailing the little liberty the British subject had . 'Ob , ' but says the noble lord , ' it is clemency , it takes away the punishment of death for certain acts which are now treason , and ' attaches the penalty of felony to acts which are now sedition ; but see tbe fallacy , Uie sophistry , and delusion of this affected clemency ; it takes away the punishment of death in cases which do not happen once in a century , and it enacts the punishment of transportation for offences of every day occurrence —( hear , hear)—and offences
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which will lie constituted a virtue , and become more numerous if the present act should pass . But look to the causes which have led to revolt and triumph iu other countries , and see if the disaffection anddi % s . it _^ faction was not ' paralleled in that house . He would not mock even a fallen monarch in his misery hu : as it was notorious that the noble lord was taking counsel from the deposed king of the French , he would ask him to hear the fact in mind , tbat the cause of his overthrow and expulsion , was the overawing the Chambpr of Deputies , oy ihe voice of placemen , officials , hacks , and pensioners , precisely as the noble lord is now relying upon , the subserviency of the same class , to overawe the Ilouse of
Commons and the nation . He ( Mr 0 Connor ) not only contended for the people ' s right lo _rcmonsirate wiih lhat house , and to compel that house to a performance of its duty , but he contended for th constitutional right of the people to overawe that house if necessary . That house should be tbe _f-xponent ofthe national will . It had no constitutional right to usurp a prerogative frr seven years , playing the tyrant for six , and the penitent lor one , _leaving its poison upon the Statute Book , and its antidote on the winds- Look to the Btate ol Spain , with her immense population , and only 90 , 000 voters . ( Dear , hear . ) He would answer that cheer presently . Look to the state of _France .
with her immense population , aud not 300 . 000 voters . ( Hear , hear . I Hewmldnow answer both those cheers . Tho mind of England untrammelled , and her opinion unfettered , had achieved a larger amount of representation in the Senate House thin either France or Spain ; and the active genius of the day , an irresistible thine , admitted no other standard than the fair representation of all—the want of which had caused revolution in other countries , and tbe attempt to stop which would be ineffectual in this . ( Hear , hear . ) But he would go still further , and he would quote precedent , to nrove that the law in England , and tyranny in Ireland , had ever been found strong enough to secure peace . In
1839 and 1840 . the law had imprisoned him , and nearly 500 working men—juries convicted against law and evidence , without leaving the b » x , and the consequence was increased hostility to the law , and an increased determination to override ita injustice _. Well , in 1842 there w general rising of the nation , and he ( Mt- O'Connor ) waa tried , with fifty-Dine others , at Lancaster , during eight _davs . They had a ' _jaafc judge , ' and a highl y constitutional lawyer upon the bench ; he explained the law , and showed the legal power which the people possessed . Iii 8 iudcment was imprinted upon the mind « _, f everv leader in the coun ry and , through them , upon the people , and from tha hour tothe present , now air wi ™
there lias not been one single political _« . ff « ndertried in England . ( Hear , boar . * Wed , if that _preceded was distributed ever eo long a period for the Wufc government , ne would now draw iheir attention tu Mondays proceedings ; and he defied tho hou « oto arrive at any other _conclusb . _-n than this . The people who attended that meeting went there with thr express intention of having their pre "Sn as pro _claimed-and , therefore , if the preparat ons 7 J 0 government were necessary , the inevitable inferencS 19 , that many of those people _wmild hlT ? . _^
armed , and that all would have felt baulked bv the _S havr bee ° n _^ _Vf _^ _^^ ' «• _uimh and v _* f f 7 ° { . * 0 , 0 , n K aad triumpa , and yet-. , hear the _at-artling truth hat _vmereas not a man in that r £ ul _ifi knew of my intention of _prohibiting the _prwe , BR until they wero _aiscmbH upon the _Cumi ht he
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purpose , jet iu at audoumenl was earned without _,. ' single dissentient , and with universal approva l . ( Hear , hear . ) Well , thus baulked of a _sanginuarj triumph , for whieh we were told _nreparati-na were made , this armed _multitude , without a walking stick , quietly dispersed ,. and not a pane of g _laafc was broken . ( Hear , hear ;}—Well , then , if mischirf was intended , or if _vergsanee waa the aim , would tbey bave dispersed with acclamation , and would they have restrained their feelings of _dii aopointraent to the most perfect observance of peace ? ( Cheers . ) He would caution hon . _membors in that house _against invitations to loyalty , and _scoffings at peace . ( Hear , hear . ) The people had learned their lessons from the Whigs , and if thiB was to be an _expostfactolnw , there was not a hulk in her M ; ijenty ' _d service that wonld te _laruo _enem-h to hold the noble lord and hia . .. ...
_associates—iclieera and feuehter )— and amont'Si whom would _t-tand prominently the hon . and gallant member for _Westminsier , who had threatened , il the Reform Bill was rejected , to invade London with a hundred t ! ou * and fi _« htini ; men . ( Hear , hear , and _chef-rs . ) He add ? d his testimony to rhe intelligence , the industry , and the honour of the _Chirtist . body _, for that high and j « 6 t character so _gcGcrousJy and nobly paid to tbem in the eloquent and manly epeech ot his hon . friend the member tor the Tower Ilamlets , ( MrG . Thomp-on ); and he would go further , and say , thai if industry was rewarded , they would he the first to punish _idleness , and all that they required was a lair d ; iy _'» wage for . i fair day ' s work ; and in that noble struggle he would go with them to the death , and be told thehou-e that if he anel thousands fell in tbe contest , for every drop o- the martyrs' blood would _spring 10 , 000 patriots to avenge the ii _at-tvrs' _desth . lie ( Mr O'Connor ) had mode
an in- _ffotual appeal to the land lord-class , who -hould be the natural prntectorBof the people , but who were n' . w the _forem-ixt to hound _t'e government on in their acts ol treason agaiuEt the crown ; and _Boein-. ' that they relied upon such tteason for the _upholding of tlieir privileges and their power , tbe country would no longer rest satisfied with that piebald patchwork opposition now si-ting upon these _banche _? , an _oppontioi of _shredi and patches ; but after the country had reflected durin _;; the Easter week these benches would present a marshalled opposition of the middle and the _workingclns- _'es —( hear , hear , nnd cheer- )—too _htrongfor tyranny to resist , and toe , powerful for treason to put down . ( Hear , hear . ) The Whi gs _* t nU it the nostrils of every man of common sense in the kingdom—( cheers )—and having received credit tor some inllueaee with ihe working _clause , be ( Mr O _C' _-nnor _* i would martial a national mind which would hurl
them from those benches in _'apite o the support ol the rig ht hon . member for Tarawortb , or of their old opponents , the Tories . What a humiliating _position , to see tbe _descendant of Russell relying upon the _disciple-s ot Pitt . ( Ilea' - , hear ) The noble lord might bave heen a powerful minister if he had acted i _.-p' _-nconstit-itrn-l principles , and the _prrajnt _b-ll _beinz treason ai ; aipBt the Crown— treason against the _Constitution—and treason _asainst tbe people , he ( Mr O'Connor ) demanded breathing time for thc nation , to allow tbo people an opportunity of declaring tlieir _renumenta . Let them _pnss this bill , and that which was the safety-valve of the constitution would at once explode ; there woald" be no more safety for the expression of publie opinion . Vulgar me _? i would be a lowe d to preach throughout the country what doctrine they _desired ; of thera no noii e
would he taken - , but a » _sonn aa any man , _rpaosed lo the government , spoke _advisedly , they wool I mark him _e < ut their victim . Well ; and if they were to fill the hulks with martyrs , he would tell them that for each one of them ten thousand new men would _arisoeiigerand willing to step into their places , and t- > bide tho _cv-.-nt . It waa impossible that they could maintain Ireland in her present position . * Some thing must be _dous for her , ahd tba * . spe dily . This bill weuld not put her down—this bill , wbich he denounced as treason against the Cruwn and the person of the _fovfreign Suoh a bill he never expected would have . emanated from a Whig Ministry . They had now become the most unpopular governmin ' that had ever _possessed the reins of power in this country . Was i _' . not well known that the Gove- n ( TK-nfc h-id the p _;> wer of ( electing : the judge and thc
jury ? What chnnco . then , was there lor the liberty of the subject ? He entreated the house—h ' . * . en treated the c'Vernment—to _uivo the people of this country breathing time , to give them an epportunity of expressing their opinions upon the bill . He besought the noble lord not to _disgrace tho high name be bore by thus pressing such , an _unconstitutional measure , lie did not mean to taunt tbe present men in _e-. ffi _.-e with tbe treatment which he bad person tily received at their hsn Is . He _csnsidere d that it wss but right that ; tho ? e win led the people _shon'd suffer any penalty which might attach to their position _, ll * pro _' . _esttd a .- ; a : _nst a reformed _par'ia-inent thus 8 _tealinsi a march upon the people ; _hepiotiS'ed
_igainst the bill , resause lie was a loyal _suhjoet . and because he objected to her Majesty ' a becoming _tineed by the disloyalty of her ministry . He could not _fJn-l language sufficiently s ' roog to denounce his abhorrence of it- __ If folly or _treason were epoken as a public meeting , the good sense of those present would put ths surest extinguisher upon it . He had never allied himself to secret societies , he never would * , but let them pasi that law on t ! at day , and on that day week _him-ir-ids of secret societies would be organised throughout the kingdiin , which sooner nr later should result in a storm that would swamp the government , and shako the etnpive to ita foundations . Let not tbe noble lord despise his warning —to be _fiuvwarned was to be lorearmed .
Mr P . Howard urged the _adoption ofthe amendment of Mr _Horsm-in , giving thc court power to mitigate the penalty of transportation to three years . Mr Reynolds contended that by a clause in the bill a spy might be hired by a wieked and venal minister to no to n meeting and u _^ _tii- incendiary and treasonable expressions , nnd the _re-ult would be that every person present would be liable to two years'imprisonment and hard labour . Mr Hume ' s advice to the government wns , to stay further _pi-oeccdiliBS for a week , in order that the country _mijjiit be mado ncquained with the provisions of _tho bill , « _"d thus avoid the disgrace of precipitation in reference to a measure of such vital importance _, lie contended that the experience of the past _shouvd that prosecutions ol that nature had never heen attended with any public advantago . The governments of bygone years had not attempted to prevent the assembling of the
people to petition for the removal of abuses or eissortion of rights . _ He had himself headed a deputation of leo _. uoo persons , with aH address to the Crown , mid no one had _elare-d toopp seliim . He well remembered the _occasion upoa which he had presided at n meeting where a resolution was passed pledging the meeting to pa > no move taxes . Thatresolution was _brousibt urder the notice _e-f thc Attorney-General , who told him tbat _hehadac-ted illegall y , and his reply was ' _Iknovv'it- try me , ' { Hen- , hear . ) But the Attorney . One ; _i-a ] did not try him . _Theg-oveniment of the present day had heen raised to power by those very Reform demonstrations and that unrestrained liberty of speech « hich this bill now sought to _ehcclt . Lord J . _HuSsell observed that we were living in extraordinary times , wb n persons deem it consistent with their duty to call _together councils Mid confederations for the purpose of d daring war against ihe _roicrei gn , for seducing-or bribing thc armed forces ofthe sovereign , find for opposing- them in arms in case _se-duction vnd bribery
do not succeed . Nobc _' _ieved that _thegeiirral opinion of thc eountry was not that Ministers hr , d interfered internp rately and hastily , but that they had uaited too long . Co _:-. side ; r ing- the designs which traitors had _avenvci , he should he ashamed oi' himself if , seeing danger at hand , he had been so _awefl hy the authority of Mr Fox as to _forlicnrfrom taking those measures of precaution wbich he _balievedto be necessary . After pointing out the difference between tbis bill and that under which Mu * r and Palmer hadbeen formerly conv . cted , he ad . _fed thst , while be retained all tl . o other parti ofthe bill , hc was re . _idy to limit the operation of that part of it which related tu ' open and advisedspe _.-ilcing . ' The measures which the _government had introduced ncre introduced under the deep conviction that tbe peace of this country was worth preserving . The trustof preserving the institutions of this country , its monarchy , and its constitiuio -1 , were in thc hands of the Admin ' stracion , and it would bo its constant endeavour to preserve them . The house then went into _committer .
Mr Horsman expressed his satisfaction tint the obectionable clauses of the bill wero to be iu operation _foia limited _pei-iodonly . Mr Martin moved that the words in question should be _struck out altogether . The Attornisx-General followed against the amendment ; nnd after some _oWrvntions from Sir F . TnEsiGKfi , who expressed his deep regret nt lhe determination oi the _government that this most important feature of the bill should have only a temporary endurance , and from Mi-P . Wood , who considered that Chartism might be exploded by _ext-ending the franchise , which would super sede the necessity of resorting to such a _blister as the _pre-ent measure applied anil various desultory ami
, time-engrossing _observatiins from other hon . members _, lie had recently voted against the motion for allowmg that dastard Frost to _5-eturn , which did not look like sympathy with sueh men . But while he joined in the indignation against tbem , and in the repudiation of their seuiimeuts , he must say , that he thought the present a most unhappily chosen moment for introducing such a measuro as that now before the house . He should much prefer seeing Chartists put an end to by extending the franehi 5 c- ( _i _hrasl-ancl giving _tbtm au opportunity of occupying their time in sendiim members to parliament instead of to the Convention . If that were done , he was sure the parliament . would never again have occasion to resort to such a blister as this bill .
Lord J . _ItussELiv _, perceiving that it « aa near six o ' clock , moved thatthe chairman report progress , and ask leave to sit again . " sir G . _GttEV Sail tha only amendment which government had to propose was the alteration of part of the third clause , _limiting its _eiperation to a period of two yoavs . That amendment would he in the possession of gentlemen to-morrow , and , therefore , he hoped the house WOUld he ready to proceed with tho further consideration of the bill , _illeiu-. ) Colonel _Sibthorv was perfectl y ready to o : ; me down at twelve o ' _e-lock . or i . _ideed ut any _inn-. r _, to proceed with the bill _| but be agreed with thc Attorney .. General uf the lute government iu denouncing the v . _- _iciliiitiou of government , as exhibited by their _abandoning a part oftho bill ( Hear . ) After a few words from Mr M . O'Connell
, Mi- UnioiiT hoped it would ho _hoi-ne in mind that on Monday night , when the government had so large a majority in lavour of tho second reading of tho bill tbere wiiB , in reality , u house of special constables . ( ' Oh I'l He believed thut a majority of tho ir . embers of the house - ( great cheering ) -had been employed in the conserve tion of the peace , and were really in a state of considerable alarm . ( Loud cries of'No , no . ' ) He was verv glad to hew it was not so , At all _cvemu , whou covern ment had at their command so large a _mtijovitv whv should the business of committees , and the _oi-diuurv business oi tho house , le m _^ _ei-fercd with hy ths _course now _proposed ? Mich a step would give _encourai-ement to a small minorit y to throw every obstacle in tiie ' _wpy of
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the bill which the _loruis of the house admitted of . _^ 0 _^ J fV e > b !') He would not sanction such a course ; but _stm j - >» such n , ig ht be the consequence . He hoped , therefore _! the bill would not be hurriedly pushed thi ough the . * house , cspecial'y when it was considered that the _digcug _^ _> ions which had t _> ken place had _already changed the opinions of many members and even uf _Miai , ters them . A selves . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr Mowatt moved , as an amendment , tn-. t the debate be adjourned to Mondiy nest . ( 'Xo . no . ') He had no desire whatever to gire any factions _oppos-tion . _C'Oh f i ' oh ! ' ) It must be admitted that government , that house _, and the country , were under great excitement c _> j 0 _j _, no . ' ; One reason why a little more time should be given A tor tbe consideration of the bill was . that when it ffa 8 brought forward on Friday they had bsfore them this mighty ghost , this mighty bugbear of the Chartist meet _, ing , but they had succeeded in laying this ghost , and there was now no reason for this indi-cent haste . Mr' Fac _4 m seconded the amendment for postponing - _* , h „ bili wlllc . „ the loruis of the house admitted of . _TT" _^ ' F ?
the bill till _Monday , and proceeded , amidst constant interruption , to address _thehouse . It being now six o'eloek the Speaker announced that , ' according to the standing order , the Jiou 3 e must ad- s journ . The house adjourned accordingly , the effect of which is , that thc further consideration of the hill stands as an ' order of the day , and will have to take its chance with the other business en the paper . ' FRIDAY . Apsil U . ' ; The nCUSK OP COMMONS a » _-. » _mbled at noon , nnd sat on without interruption to two o ' clock this ( Saturday J i f morning . I On tho motion that the Speaki r leave tha chair to go iato committee on ihe Bill for the batter security ofthe Crown and Government of tho United _K-ngdom , a dis . cusalon , with the _object of obstruction , took plaee ; this ivas continued up to four o ' clock , when a division was
fjreed—For xoing into _oooimittes ... 287 Against it , 33 ? Majority __ 254 The house went Into committee , and the debate on tbe _question that tho words * by open and advised ' speaking' stand part of the bill , waB resumed . j After a lengthened _discussion , the committee di- vided : — For retaining the words .. ... 188
Against it 7 » _Majori-y 109 _** A proviso to bo added to the 3 rd clause , limiting * j the time in which a prosecution ¦ sbould follow the- j proof of words spoken , was the subject of another long < de _hn' . e . On the _mstion that the Chairman report pro ~ j _gress : — ] For this motion 48 _Aesinstit SP 5
Majority against tbe motion ,,, 257 Tho proviso was postponed . On the _question that clause three , as amended , stand part of the hill : — - It was moved that the chairman report progress , aad the committee divided : — For tha motion ... 39 Against it 273 Mnjority against tho motion ... 231 _Thecomm-ttee then divided on the 3 rd clause—For thr : filnnsn ... ... _^ .. 2 + 2
Against it ... ... ... ... 50 Majority for tbe clause ... —192 On the 4 th _clause another division was taken—For tbe clause , ... S 21 _Ajainst it ... 33 Mi . _jori-y for tho clause ... —188 The rc-miinin < _thn-eclsuses were agreed to , and the bill , as amended , was ordered to be reported to the house on Monday . The ether _ordars wera disposed of , and the house adjourned to Monday .
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Foreign Intelligence: France. Tbe Member...
FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE : FRANCE . Tbe members of the Paris Club of Equality and Fraternity have published the folio wine resolution , signed by one of their secretaries ( M . Alfred Monbrial ) : — - Oa _leirninj that a Ciartist manifestation is to take plac _i in London , the Club of Equality and Fraternity de . cided spontaneously that the people of _Fsi-. s should be inTitei " _, through thc medium of all ; he Clubs , to make aa soon ns _ooss ' _-ble a calm , imposing , and fra'ernil _maoi *
_flotation , to prove to the English p eople that they may count on the good wishes aud sympathies of the Frencfe nation in the combat which they are about to maintain against the feudal system and the government which so _audaciouslycontests its rig Vts _. The ohje-ct of the proposed manifestation is to eneouia _^ _a the E ; glish p : ople in their _resistunca to the despotism by which they hnve been so long oppressed , and this _resolutien . of which a copy shall be sent to thi PariBion _jnurnols , will rommunicate tothe British _d'ttvicrats the certainty of a _sympathetic--uppott fi ' . ; iii their brothers in Paris .
DENMARK AiND SCHLESWIG _ITOLSTEIN . DEFEAT OP THE TROOPS OF THE DUCHIES . The Hambdko Borseshalle ofthe llth inst . contains the intelligence subjoined ' . — Hostilities have seriously ' commenced between the forces of D _.-ninark and those of _Soheeswig-Holatein . Ar very fitrce battle has been fought near Flensburg _, in ivhich _theDane-s _, huving a _dcci- ' . td _f-uperiority in aumbcrs , as well as in their cavalry and artillry , thc _Schlesvfij-Holsteinarmy was defeated and compelled te retreat towards It-nd * burg . The lo « _- > of life has been very great on both _siues . The Dines entered the city of _Si-bleswfg yesterday . The Prussian troops Rave been ordered , to ndvam e iu order to support tho people of Schleswig , and should tb ? King of _Denmark , in retaliation , stop the passage of the Sound , his territories are to he _invadsd , A _K-tter from Altoua , of April 10 , says : —
The Dunes appeared with on overpowering force , and so suddenly and boldly , in tbo _mWst of their enemies at Ban and Flensburg , that they took _theai by surprise , and compelled the Holstein troops of the line and volunteers to retire in all haste . The attack began , in the morning on tho part of the Danes , who h . \ d two vessels of war and gunboats to assist iheir attack on the to : vn . Thoy had landed _atHolnis , and , after several small _contests , tho _Schleswigllolstiu-rs made a Rtund at Biu . not fat- from . _Fitnsl-urg _. _which en < _* ed in their total defeat and
tho destruction of almost-all of their lG : b battalion _. Towards twelve o ' clock on the 9 : h several vessels of war , ftlch three _thousand Danes em board _, jape , _- ired be « fo'c Flensburg . Tho commander of these troop 3 _evidimily accurately knew tho position of the _Holsteiners _, who , from want of artillery , were unable effectually to oppose the lauding of their enemy . As th ..- D ; ne 3 now threatened to bombard tho town , tho Prince of _Jider , thc _H-. _lstein _comma & der , gave orders to tho troops to _evithdi-aw , whicii they did , lut not until after a _s ; _n-(• u _' . navy contest , with _greas lsBSoilife on both sides ,
POLAND . The Royal Commissioner in the Grand Dachy of Posen , M . Von _Willisen , has published a proclamation to the ! nhahltor . t » of tbat province , He says that the Polish _re-orgmisation of the grand Duchy , according to his _Majesty's promise , is jast beginning , and that he is intrusted with powers to carry it our that the Poles desire a National Government snd National _(»• f ,, Polish ) Courts of Justice , and that they shall have both , also that tbe interests of the German inhabitants of the province shall be taken care of . But he makes one condition , via ., _orler and legal authority must be Te . established Tha proclamation concludes with the promise of aa amnesty for all thoso rioters who nt onee lay down their arms and return to their respective homes .
F Utfliu Jmjijixlimlis. Wo Have Reports,...
f UtfLIU _jMJiJiXliMliS . Wo have reports , for which it h impossible to find room , of a great number of _public meetings holden in all parts of the country in support of the Charter and the Convention , These _msetimrs haye been tha _largest , _nmst numerous , ond moat enthusiastic _evec held by the working classes of thia country . In , many places the middle classes have united with the _werkinnmsn for the Charter .
Metropolitan Public Meeting. A Public Me...
METROPOLITAN PUBLIC MEETING . A public meeting ; will be holden on Tuesday even " ing next , at eight o ' clock , at the _Farrinedon Hall , King ' s Arms yard , Snow-hill , opposite _Farringdonstreet . Several members of tbe _Conyention _TfUl attend .
Tue Fraternal Democrats. A Meeting, Crow...
TUE FRATERNAL DEMOCRATS . A meeting , crowded almost to _Buffjcation , was holden in tho Farrin _^ don ilall on Tuesday evening last . Mr J dm Overton was called to the chair . Elcquent _apeechfs were ddliverod by Messrs Kydd , Walter Cooper , Ernest Jones , Daly , and M'Carthy . A . petition against , the gagging bill was adopted . Tho greatest enthusiasm prevailed . Another publio meeting will be held nt the same place on Tuesday _evening next .
Bekmond-Ey. —It Ia Tho Unanimous Wish Of...
_Bekmond-ey . —It ia tho unanimous wish of the Chartists of this _locality for Mr Wild , of the Convention , to pay them a visit on Tuesday evening nest , April 18 h , and lecture on any subject he thinks proper . Mr Jara . _63 Bassetfc , of the Metropolitan _Delegate- Council , will lecturo on _Tuesdiy evening , April 25 th . Subject : The origin , aim , snd end , of _monarchy , '
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Northern Star (1837-1852), April 15, 1848, page 4, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns3_15041848/page/4/
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