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Proviiiosal Executive . For himself i he was in favour of the _Aswmbly electing a permanent _Execafive ; for he contended that if they were competent to elect a temporary bsdv of men who might havs to face the greatest difficulties , they were equally competent to elect a permanent committee forthe Safety and progmi of the movement ; it was re quint © that the body should have this character , because the country would neither have the same confidence in them , nor obey their instructions with the _sameieal as if they were a permanent body . At the same time tiie Executive should be subject fc- > the approval or rejection of the pe-pie , and that should be required within six weeks . Mr Jones concluded by proposing & _metion to that effect .
. . Mr Basset seconded the motion , because ke be-KeTed they were in a much better position to elect sn Executive than their _censtituents could be . _ For instance , he saw daily the conduct of ths Scottish delegates , tome of whom he could wish to be included within a new Executive . His constituents had net the _sarte opportunities , and therefore he considered the Assembly should elect , subject to the approval of the people . Mr Councillor Beook highly approved of this course . They _WGnld _icflict great injury upon the
cause , if they separated without appointing an Exentive . He must also express his delight at the unanimous feeliDg which now seemed te animate the whole pf the __ Assembly that day on behalf of the great esuse in which they were engaged . He was far the Charter to-sorrow , if they cou'd get It ; and he believed tbat if they _badsuch men as Messrs Jones , Kydd , M'Grath , and _oihers _, __ at their head , who would unite all the sections ot their bod y , it would create snch an agitation in the country , a 3 would speedily achieve their object . „ „ , „ ..
Mr S . Ktdd , Mr West , Mr _M'Leait , and other delegates having Epoken on the question , Mr _Doxovas demanded that the votes should be recorded , as he was not prepared to cede the rights of his csBStituents . Mr _M'GBATHfearedthatif they elected an Executive there , and then sent them to the country for confirmation , it would have the appearance of dictation . At the same time it was evident that they must have sn Executive to _condact the busk ess until their successors were appointed by the people . He denied that the AssemUy had the power to elect the Executive : he would , therefore , move _« That an Executive of five be elected by the National Charter Association for the ensuing year , sueh nomination and election to take plac 3 within the next six weeks ; and that , in the meantime a Provisional Executive should be elected , tO hold _r-fice and cosduct the affairs until the permanent Executive was elected . ( Hear , hear . )
Mr _Hesrt seconded _thig resolution , which was supported by Mr J . Shaw , of Barnsley . Mr Dokovan withdrew his motion in favour of that proposed by Mr M'Grath , which fully met his
Views . Mr Shaepe Baid , he supported the motion of Dr M'Douall , because his _coastitnents were in favour ot the _Assembly appointing the Executive . They were cost anxious on the subject , inasmuch as they did not wish that any ofthe directors of the Land Company should ba on the Executive . They considered the directors had quite enough to do in managing their business , without attempting to guide the Chartist movement ; and they , therefore , had every reliance that any Executive elected by that Assembly would _fihly represent ths public feeling of the country- . . .
The _Chaiemak supported Mr M Grath ' s resolution He knew as much of the feelings of the people in the country on this subject as any man in that Assembly , snd he _csuld state that whether that Assembly _possessed more knowledge , as to tfce capabilities of partie 3 lit for the duties of th 9 Executive than any other body , or not , they felt that they had a risht to elect their own Executive , and that was a right they wou'd not forego on any account whatever . Dr _M'DouAti replied , and on the question being put , there voted fo ** Mr M'Grath ' s motion , 2 S ; for the motion of Dr M'Donald , that the Assemblv elect , subject to tha confirmation of the public , 17—majority 11 , for Mr M'Grath's motion .
Mr Versos said , that he had been requested by Oliver Byrne , Esq . a good Chartist , and a Repea ' er , to hand in a _sovereign , as his voluntary _coutribution to the £ 10 000 liberty fund . ( Cheere . ) Two shillings were thrown down by some person in the gallery . Mr Councillor Brook , moved that they should proceed to the election ef the Executive immediately , and that it be ballot . Mr _Hexex considered it would be much better to postpone the election till to-morrow , in order to give time for due _consideration of so important a question . Mr _AdaH _3 said , ihey ought ta go lo ihe election at once , in order to prevent any chance of canvassing during tbe night , and keep the election free from corruption . Mr _Stkvessos concurred in this _resolation .
Mr _Vbbso . v wished to know whether the _membars ofthe Executive at present unpaid , but who were at present p lid by the National Land Company for their services , were prepared to gbe _ the whole of tbeir _services to the Chartist Association , if they were elected ? The _Chaibmax said , that was not the question at present ; let them first _decide whether they would immediately proceed with the election . Itwas carried by a large majority that the election be taken forthwith . Mr M'Gkath , in reply to Mr Verasn said , distinctly , that he could not give the whole of his time and services to the Chartist Association . He trusted however , that the same question would be put distinctly to eTery individual wha might be proposed as & member of the Executive .
The following centlemen wera then proposed as raembersof the Extcutive : —Messrs Ernest Jones , Vernon , Wheeler , Adams , Donovan , Kydd , Leach , M'Crae , F . O ' Connor , Dr M Douai " , Rankin , West , Lightowler . Th ? question whether these gentlemen _norainafed , who were present , would , if elecfed . give the whole of their time to the duties of their office , was then put to each respectively , and answered in the affirmative . Mr Ernest Jones , however , explained that he was editor of the Labourer , and also one of the editors of the Stab . He believed that by retaining those _px-itiens he could bs cf much service to the movement ; but if he found his position at the Star at all _incompatible with the disckar . _? e of hU duties as a member of the Executive , is _ihoa'd not hesitate lo _resitt it .
_Messrs _Sharpe and Briggs were appointed tellers _, and the following five gentlemen wera deelared to be elected :-Mr M'Crae 32 votes , Mr Ernest Jone 3 31 , Mr Kydd 29 , Mr Leach 29 . Dr _AI'Douall 27 . The Assemblv then adjourned .
TUESDAY , Ma ? 9 . Tha Assembly met this morning at nine o ' clock , Hr Dixon in the chair . Te'jhas Richards , took his seat for the county of Durham _, and _Edwabs Mitcseix for Rochdale . Councillor liaises moved tbat an order be given for 1 , 000 copies of a pamphlet' Oa the Constifution of Society as _deigned by God ; ' author , Daniel Bishop , for the purposes of distributioa . He said , t * socau * _-e 3 _hsdasjet impeded the progress ef the causa cf tbe Charter—the one was ignorance , the other prejudice . He proposed removing the ene by the dissemination of sound knowledge , and the o _* . h ? r would soon cf itself give way . _Indeed eo strongly did he think the present work required , so fit for the purpose , that he would , in case the Assem bjy refased to take it tip , himself purchase 1 , 000 copies , and take thera dowH with him to _Sheffield . Mr T . Joses seconded the motion .
Mr Cochrane and several other _members said they had not yet read the book , and were not prepared to vote upon it . Mr Versos and Mr _M'Gratii stated tbat the book had b _^ en _stereotyped , and the author bad been S 3 good as ta place the plates at the use of the Assembly , so tbat the cost of tbe book to them would be no more th _^ n the paper and labour . Mr Shaw ( Tower Hamlets ) moved that the question De referred to the _Basiaess Committee , acd that tiey report to morrow . Mr _Mabsdex did not think it risht to expend the funds in this way , and therefere he moved that the question be _diimissed . The motionaud amendment having been severally _Fecondf d and put to the vote , it was declared that Mr Shaw ' s _amendment was carried , and _ the que _< - tion was accordingly referred to the Business Comaittee .
JPCBLIC A _6 ITATI 0 K . Mr VEE .-ra .-r said ha had been looking fer some _manife statu n ofthe power of the Organisation Committee , bat had failed to perceive any whatsoever . He did not complain of them , but be _des ' ited to sec something d » _se to keep up the agitation , which must decidedly fail and die without some or-anisation and effort . The Chsibiias . — It bas fallen into the hands of the Provisional Council . Mr Ea ? _set , as one of tbe Committee , said they had not felt themselves at liberty ti incur the _ex-ense of _ca- 'h ' ng meetings , bnt they had done _everything to suppiy speakers fer _meetings that had been _called .
Mr Carter , as a cenntry delegate , was glad the London members bad opened their lips on the subject . . lie hsd been In Lcadon , idle and weary of walking up and down the _streets , while he might have been most usefol _' y , and wonld have been most gl * dly , employed for the _purpose of agitation . He telt sorry that so little effort was being msde to rouse London , to cov . vir . ee the people here ofthe earnest interest felt in the Charter by tbe people of the province ? . Mr Shaw ( Tower Hamlets ) Eaid tbey were _igr : _cranttiil now of Mr Carver ' s wish to serve in agitation . Tbey had met with rebuffs on _teteral occasion * _, when they applied to members to attend to meetings . Mr Carver would have no reason henceforth to make the sane emphiat . He move d now , ? That as speedily _Es _' _possible , a meeting be held in Smithfield Market . ' ' They had no fund ? , or etherwise he _sbonld wish to engage halls , as did Mr Hume and Mr C _obdcc .
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Mr _Vsbhoh seconded the motion . Mr Child suggested that Mr Shaw withdraw _h's motion . He , es one of the committee complained of , must confess that they _hadnotdone their duty ; they had not met for consulting about business , aud ia tbat they had been wrong . ( Laughter . ) The subject then dropped .
COEBIBPOSDEKCE . Dr M'Douall , from the Business Committee , reported that several communications of a local and personal character bad been received which the committee did not think ought to be read . Mr Edward _Mitchxli , said he knew the allusion ; itwas to him '; he had come late , members might ask why . and then for what . The country _inhis district was in a state of great disorganisation . Lancashire was fn a divided state ; the _proceedings ef the last week in this Assembly had occasioned very much division . On Geod Friday he had been elected almott unanimously tbat he might come-up to London ; but when the mornine papers came down with their report of this Assembly ' s proceedings , they occasioned ¦ rasfc division . He was not a whit alienate ! from the Charter , which he had adopted twentv-eight years
ago , from old father Hunt , and which he now readily held by along with such men as Mr O'Connor . He then stated tbat he had been charged with a letter and a resolution by & meeting held on Sunday night , te ba publicly read at the Assembly , and communicated to the press . If the Assembly refused to hear ifc , he bad no option , he would give it to the Northers Star- Mr _Niitchell then referred io a meeting held in Rochdale , when a motion for Triennial Parliaments ' , Ballot , Household Suffrage , and Equal Electoral Districts , had heen made by the brother of John Bright , M . P ., and stated tbat on beine asked by a person in tbe meeting how , if a working man was elected to Parliament , his family could be supported ? Mr Bri ght at once , _admitted that he must be paid . Such was the progress of the Charter .
The following is the letter referred to by Mr Mitchell : — * ' ; ' " iSi A resolution p _* _ssed unanimously at a crowded meeting in the _Cbartigt-rocm _, Yorkshire street , on Sunday , May 7 th , William Blake in the chair , Moved by Mr Tbomss _Lireiey , and _ceconded by Ifr Thomas Mel . bourne : — ' That we , the Cbartis ' B of Rochdale , have ob . served with feelings of shime aDd indignation , the _nnju » t attacks that nave _tetnmntje _againttMrF , O'Connor . MP ., for Nottingham , by parties In tbe National Assembly , e » we think the past conduct of Mr O'Connor enght to _enlitt around him tbe Chartists of tbis empire , and shield bis fame against the malignant attacks ofa few mercenary _poIitlciaaB snd aspiring patriots , who finding in companFon with him their ewa miserable Inferiority , instead of imiroving their talents and
elevating thtmselves to bis level , resort to the base _eipedunt of attempting to traduce him , end reduce his character to a level with that of their own . We call upon Mr O'Connor to go on and pnrgs the cause from the idle and profligate epou ' ers who have ever teen a _drawback to it ; ss we are convinced that _itcanf . ot te 1 rough t to a _snccefsfal i » sun , whilst men are found , who . being delegated by the people to represent the riehts of labour , sacrifice our glorious principles to tha base means of obtain _' n _^ a livelihood from the pence of the poorelt people . Ih _conclatlon we pledge ourselves to eopport Mr O'Connor , as lot : ; at he fihsll act as he hitherto has done , bnt should he at any time desert those principles Ve his _sacrificed _sa mnoh to advance , we shall not bs found WantiHr * in removing from bim his pr < sent proud position , but nntil lie shall be found to haTe done this , we consider _itthebas-istiacrntitu ' _e to desert him . '
Mr Richards , in his report , stated that the cause of democracy was ga i ning daily in his district ; that whereas , two or three week _* ago their association _numbered only thirteen , ic was now attended by 200 paying members . Organisation Committee Dr M'Douall said , the next point of the committee ' s Teport was , thit ten commissioners be provisionally elected . Tbeir duties would be determined afterwards , but he mieht say now that their object was to carry _iito _eff-ct the will of the Executive . There were , therefore , two points for the _assembly to decide on , were they to have commissioners , and how many . Mr Basset thought ten not enough ; there ought to be one for every district . _'M'Eesest _JiNEssiid , the nnmber might be increased as occasion required . Tbeir duties were to carry the organisation of thj eonntry completely into _effaot under the control of the Executive .
Mr _Carter said , be would be very happy to support the election nf _commissioners if they were to have control over the Executive . For . as yet , the power ofthe Executive was uncontrolled , and an encroachment on the true principles of democracy . Mr Vernon said every man would have control over them , but his experience of _associations taipht hira that a private member _interfering with the authorities wonld not be heard with much sympathy . Mr _Ehsest Jokes said , such a power was impossible , it would be _erecting two "ring _^ s in Brentford . The _comniiRRionera were to set hov and where the Executive should think proper . Tbey could not be under and above the control ofthe Executive at tbe same time . Employed when th _«; executive pleased , or _notemployed at all , if tbey pleased ; the commissioners _cauldnotbe entrusted with any _controlling power , as not being free agents . After a few _observations from Mr Child , Mr Pi baedt and others .
Mr S . Ktdd siid , the Assemb y were representatives , that was democracy . The representatives elected the _Executive ; for what purpose hut tc , carry their wiU into effect ? That was clearly still democmcy . The appointment of ' commissioners wss opposed to democracy : but wben _' they appointed an Executive they ooght to recollect that their valne depended upon their practical power . But if they appointed commissioners to control the Executive it was no longer aa Executive . If they were _appointed to consult for the Executive , wbat was left to the Executive of power . Thtre was a jealousy cf power , there was always _somethinz unpopular abont the Ministerial Bench—( lao _% hter )—bnt he admired ths _sen'itiveness ofthe p ° opleon this point . If an angel were to come _down from heaven and all men to _biw to him as the saviour of men , there would arise the fame sensitive jealousy . Fie hoped that , they _irould elect commraoner ? with power sufficient to make them valuable auxiliaries tc » the Executive .
Mr _M'GRiTH saw a _grett deal of good likely to arise from the appointment of commissioners ; they wonld effect the _orsanisatirm ot the country ; they were to be elected _provisionally ; an d when they had done their duty , it woald be ter the _iistrict to elect & permanent _commisp'oner . Mr Cochrasb to _si-Rj lify the _ question moved , That we have _provisional commissioners . ' Mr M'Grath seconded this . The motion was carried unanimously . MrERSEST _Joxes moved , 'That- the members of the Assembly be appointed commissioners . ' Mr Pilling objected to _elec'ing himself , and therefore moved , ' 'That eich district joining thU movement should e ' * its _crnimissioner . *
Mr Adams , in seconding tbis , thonght Mr Ernest Jones ' s _proposition sire ' t very strongly of the old _boroughmongerine . ( Laughter . ) This was not the time to elect commissioners , bat to know thedutie « they bad to perform . He would not submit to be elected till he knew what he was to do . ( Lacehter ., ) _Sometbing mnst be said sb . _int n _* iy . Was the work to be con' _-ant or occasional ? For either he roust be at his employment or not . He could not be occasional ' y employed . lie mii » t either be paid by the Chatt ' s ' _s or work for himself . Dr M'Douall said , that both Mr Jones and Mr Piilir g wera rLht . The country must be _organised . That must be done by provisional commissioners , _nndsr Mr Jones's motion . When tbe country had been organised , each district , _according to Mr Pilling , would elect its own _coramifsinner .
Mr _Vernos _thought it conld not be _cuicrded that thst Afisemb _' y should be under the control and power of tbe Executive . Ko proposed 'That thi 3 Assembly elect ten _cnmmijsinners W act provisionally , and that each _di'tricc bi called on to elect its own commissioner . ' Mr Carver . _seconded this . Mr JfiNEs explainrd tbat the member . ? of this Assembly , after the adjournment , would mo « t i fficiently _organise the coaBtrv ; acd they could act as havirg a control over the Executive , in their collective capae't' . which might be resumed at _ar . v momen . Mr Ktdd did not kno * - how long Mr Jones meant to sit . He learned to view tbe Assembly as an ! Annual Parliament Perhaps Halifax _expected tbem to carry the Charter before rising . Is was not so with his _cr-. nstitnents , for he had that _mornins had a polite hint that the Assemb ' y do their business as quickly is possible . _Organise ihe cauntry and
adjourn . A Member proposed * That twenty be elected as _commissioners . ' Mr Ramus explained tbat the _Organisation Committee had no objection to insert twenty for ten . The different amendments were then withdrawn , azd the original suggestion of the committee , altered to twenty , was unanimously voted . Mr _Eb . _vest Joses . —Is tbere any objection that the _nembers of the _Aseemlly be appointed ? Mr E . Mitchell thought this was a very ccol way of throwing off their responsibility _asrep-esenta tires . Th _^ y consented to sirk down into commissioners , at a time when the eonntry was looking to tbem to do something . lie did not wonder at the Blate of division in tbe eountry . ( 'No , no . ')
_MrCccnuAKB said , the last speaker was the only person who had ever said the members did noterjoy tbe confidence of the ccuntry , acd did not deserve it . Mr Mitchell bad just seen a letter , _calling upon a rcembfr to resign . (' Order , order '; Dr _M'Docall . —I have received no tech communication . Mr Brigge . —Mj _constituent are in so divided a state that 1 expect to be recalled daily . ( 'Order , order , ' and _riisprrler . ) It vcas then settled that tbe Assembly should ballot for twenty persons , members of tbe Assembly , to act as _comroiFsioEetB , and they proceeded to the ballot , DrM'Doua _) land Mr Erne = t Jones _weio appointed tellers .
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Mr Councillor Brook applied for , and received leave of , absence for a week . Mr Councillor _Briggs also received leave of absence until Friday , andthe votes having been duly taken , the following were declared to be duly eleoted commissioners ;—Messrs Vernon . J . Shaw ( Tower Hamlets ) , Adams , Wheeler , Brook , Rankin . Pilling , Stevensoo , Sharpe , Cochrane , Peacock , Shaw ( Barnsley ) , Harley . Basset , Cumming , Child , Djnovan , Shirron , Henry , Lightowler , and West . The Assembly then adjourned at a quarter to two o ' clock until three . On re-assembling at that hour , Bome routine business was disposed of . The names nf the _parties elected as commissioners were formally announced to the meeting , and it was resolved , 'That _sny vacancy that might eccur in the Provisional Executive , Bhould be filled up by the commissioner highest on the list of votes .
Mr M'Grath said , they had no doubt an idea of tbe appointment of peimanent commissioners , and shonld provide accordingly . They ought a ' so _fcodefine their powers and duties . Mr Vernon said , he had moved that the commissioners should be placed in the same position as the Provisional Executive , namely—tbat they should be subject to the approval of the districts within the next six week 9 . Mr _M'Graih said , that motion was not definite enough for him . He would therefore move ' That each organised district should , oh the day of electing the permanent Executive , elect a permanent commissioner also .
Mr Vbrson seconded the motion , because it expressed his ideas more clearly than hia own . Mr West considered that the time was come when they should give their commissioners their instructions , and therefore that the Assembly should determine its future policy . 'Ihey had now elected tbeir commissioners and they should know what their duties WPre . Mr M'Cartht said , that the commissioners were to be instructed by the Executive . Tbere were many _tbinas which it might be proper to instruct tbe commissioners about , which it might be extremely imprudent for them to discuss there . Mr T . Clark wished to know , whether that last statement was a minute of the Assembly , or meiely an individual opinion ? [ Several 7 oic ? B , ' Only an individual opinion , ' ]
Mr . _WuEELEB opposed Mr M'Grath ' s motion . The only idea of tbe Organisation Committee was tbat tbey were to be assistants to tbe Executive , and in case of a vac ncy to fill it up . If tbey app : _inted permanent _commissioners , he feared it wou'd be found tbat they had two co-ordinate powers , which might cla _? h with each other . Mr M'Douall ssid , the motion was in the teeth of tbeir proceedings that morning . They had resolved upon appointing twenty commissioners . That was a fixed number—but by Mr M'Grath ' s motion , tbo number was unlimited and might extend to five hundred . Mr Pilling said his understanding of the matter was , that the election of these twenty commissioners was merely tor the next sis weeks , and that at the end of th » e period each district should elect its own commissioner .
Mr Ernest Jones said , it wss most desirable that the commissioners should not be appointed by their own districts , because they would thereby be kept Clear Of all _Jscal squabbles and party feeling . They would have to examine , mediate , and report on the state of the various districts , according to the instructions of the Executive , and they ought therefore to be _independent of all local influences . Mr Vernon , as the mover of the resolution agreed to in the morning , wished to state tbat he meant by the election of the commissioners , to appoint a staff of officers to carry out the orders of tbe Executive , apart from all local officers whatever .
Mr T . Clark said that Mr Jones had argued tbat tbey were to be so thoroughly democratic , their local _self-gove-nment was to be carried out to the fullest extent . ( ' Hear' from Mr Jones . ) Well , then , if that was to be so , every district should elect its own commissioner , if that officer were to have any power over it . He thought , therefore , that every district sheuld appoint its own officers . Mr Ernest Jones said , Mr Clarke seemed to totally misunderstard the nature of the duties of a commissioner . He' was not to be constantly resident i ' r one district , but to travel frem place ti place as circumstances might require his presence . The idea of a resident commissioner therefore was a ridi-¦ _ulous one . A vety desultory and _lengthened discussion fol . lowed , in which _Mrsars Wheeler , Stevenson , Kydd , Carver , Bas » et , Mitchell , Pilling , Richards , Henry Pehardy . Adams , and Matthews , took _psrt .
MrWniEun moved as an amendment to the motion of Mr M'Grath , — ' Tbat the districts should elect twenty _coDmissioners _. ' tbat would be in accordance with the decision come to in the morning , and with tbe views of those who first proposed tbo appointment of _tluBe officers , Mr Earlkt seconded the amendment , which was supported by Mr Cochrane , who said , he understood the object of appointine the commissioners was this , they should agitate the country ; as to _^ there being resident _t-fficer * _. there was no necessity for __ that , seeing tbey had the _local officers and secretaries , to cenduct tbe local affaire .
Mr Mitchell said , if the Assembly or Executive appointed travelling commissioners , fhey would be linked upon in the same light as the Poor Law Com . mi 8 ionerB . He thought , therefore , that they ought to divide the country into twenty divisions , * _ind give each division tbe pewer to _sileet its own commissioner , that would be the only way to maintain confidence , and a g ood understanding between theEe officers and the district . Mr Adams tbou « ht tbey . might reooncile the dif . ferent views entertained on tbis subject ; that the country should hedividrd into twenty large districts ; tbat each district should elect a commissioner , bnt that the commissioner elected by snch district , should never be gent to his own district by the Executive , in order to keep him free from any bias arising frem local influence .
Mr M'Grath said , he did not attach any importance whatever to the number of these officers . All he did contend for , was that tba * body should _preserve its democratic character , and secure tothe people the power of electing their own commissioners , at tbe same timo tbat the permanent Executive was appointed . He believed tbat Mr Wheeler's motion wou'd effect his object , and therefore withdrew his _tn-itiop . Mr Wheeler's motion was then carried with three dissentients . Mr M Grath then moved , — ' That in the everjt of a vacancy in the Executive Committee , that bod y shall with the least possible delay , complete the necessary _arrangements to enable the association to fill up such vaca _^ y . He was opposed to the application of the principle to the permanent Executive , which tbey adopted with reference to the provisional committee , namelv—that tbe commissioners who were highest on the list ibould fill up lhe vacancy .
Mr Rankin suggested , that to that should be added that the commissioners highest on the list , should provisional !* occupy tbe place , until a proper election is made . Mr M'Grath _aereed to this addition , and . the motien was unanimously adopted . It was a _' so resolved , — * That the appointment of local and district secretaries should be left to the Ircalities . ' The next resolution was , — ' That the gereral and financial secretary should be elected by the Executive from their own body , ' Mr Cochrane thought that the appointment of such an important officer should be vested in the Assembly . Dr M'Douall said , the Assembly bad better vote itseil tbe Executive altogether . By all former _asso-Giationn the election of _sccretfcry lad been left to the
Executive . Mr Child _sa'd , he did not see why they should have any secretary at all . Let the Executive be tbeir own secretaries . ( Laughter . ) The motion was adopted It was resolved tbat tbe treasurer , for one year , be appointed by the Assembly , and instructed to honour no draft , unless previously signed by three of the Executive . _, tl , Mr Sharps proposed that Mr 0 Connor be the treasurer , which was seconded by about half a desen delegates _simultaneously . Mr T . Clark hoped they would delay tho _flpp'iintment r . _n'il they had an opportunity of consulting with Mr O'Connor as to whether he weuld accept the office . A treasurer ought to be upon the spot , and it was donbtfnl whether Mr O'Connor ' s other avocations would permit him to bold the office .
Dr M'Docall said , he should propose Mr John Sewell as treasurer . Ilis property " and long connexion with the Chartist body well entitled him to the honour , and he feared that Mr O'Connor conld not accept the office consistent with t _« o other duties . Mr Wheeler _considered it m u ' . d be better tqpostpone any decision until they had an opportunity of _consulting both gentlereen . . Mr Stevenson thought it was most unmerciful in the friends of Mr O'Connor to heap more work upen the shoulders of tbat gentleman , when tbey knew that le had already more work by three times than ought tote thrown upon any one g entleman . Mr J . Shaw ( Tower Hamlets ) said , thst looking at _thetnormousprefsureof business upon Mr O'Connor , it would be better not to appoint that gentleman , but while he was Dot at all _opposedto Mr _Jewell , there was rne _gentlerr . an who resided in London , and who would be easily _accessible . He meant Mr WakJey , tic member for Finsbury . ( Bravo . ) Mr M'Carthy seconded the motion .
MrT . Clark eaid that if tbev were to proceed to the vote at all _. he would support _' Mr Sewell _, Mr Wakley was as muek _overburdi _ned with business as most men . ne was coroner , editor of the Lancet , and _memter of Parliament ; the dut : e 3 of wbich he perforrxed with eo much advantage to the public , and he would be as difficult © come at as Mr O'Connor . Here a person in the gallery , who persisted in putting a question to tbe chairman , T ? as _ordereS out ofibegaJh ry , buton his promise to be quiet , wasfiu : _> fered to remain .
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After a short _diacusiion , the Assembly pioceedid to the vote , and Mr J . Sewell waB declared duly elected to tbe office of treasurer for the year . The ' Assembly then adjourned at five o ' clock till nine o clock on Wednesday .
WEDNESDAY , May 10 . Mr W . Dixon in the chair . Mr SnAw moved the rescinding of so much ofthe minutes of yesterday ' s proceeding as referred to fill _, ing up of vacancies in the _Executive frora ihu Commissioners _biahest on tbe poll , in order that the _Executive might b 3 at liberty to choose those meii mo _» t efficient for the purpose . Mr Bhntol seconded the motion . Mr Adams did not know , as they Baid in Scotland , ' from what airth the wind blaws , '—( lanehter )—but perhaps ' it was because Mr Shaw found himself tbe sixth down the list . ( Laughter ) He considered this attempt to give up such absolute power to the Executive , was an attempt to turn democracy upside down . Mr Shaw explained , and a volehaving been taken his motion was lost .
Some converaation then arose , relative to certain instances of bad management with regard to _meetinaa and tho general agitation in favour of the Charter .
Address to all Classes , Mr S . _Ktod rose to move tho adoption of an ' Address from the National Assembly to all classes o < Great Britain and Ireland . ' The address which be was about to read , would ba preliminary to a series of one or two others on the great question of labour . There could be little deubt tbat they ought to make themselves clear and perfectly understood to the people , that they held such opinions as would be generally acceptable to all classes of tbe community . Such was the more necessary on account of certain _misrepresentations spread by distinguished orators and writer * and the columns ') of newspapers , that what they ( tbe Chartists ) wished amounted to class
_priVrilegei and interests . For if they wished nothing but class interest , he , for one . would not continue to aid them , - _^ ch privileges were not wor th _contendiit _3 for . Yet such a misrepresentation had been made of an _addresB drawn ud by him by a paper lately started and called' The Voice or the People . ' Tbe editor _o'that paper had stated , it _wasjneant to deceive the people , but in an after number be had acknowledged that it was founded on true principles , and correctly appealed to authorities . He ( Mr Kydd ) stated this , thatthe confidence of the Assembly in the Address he was about to read , _migh * . not be shaken . ( Mr Kydd then read the _addresswhich elicited the applause oftho Assembly . ) _Address of the Members of the . National Assembly to Men
of all Classes tn Great Britain and Ireland . Conflicting interests have narrowed men's sympathies , given folourings to facts , and taught many of those whose natnral feelings would prompt them to acts and deeds of justice and humanity to look on their fellow men with ( listrust and hatred—sad and melancholy fact , and to ivhich English society , as now constituted , carries within itself a mournful testimony , reflected by the crowds ot unwilling idlers that throng our _streets-the unfortunate crinrnals who fill our gaols—the fearful increase in the bills of mortality-th se silent monitors which reflect the life and death of apeople-ttie rapid decrease of the character of citizenship—thc brfoking up of family ties that
bind society _together—thu comparative want of elevated and manly feeling- among workmen—the scrupulous love ot power manifested by the capitalists—the enveloping and _ruiDous bankruptciefl of the xniddlc classes — the con . _sta _^ t and _pregnant fear of thearistooracy , shadowed forth bjidle displays of military and coercive power—the des . pcration and narrow policy of the government , asmani . fepted in Alien Latvs _, _ Gagginjr Bills , and Coercive Actsare omens not to be mistaken bythe thinker ofthe present age , and while we have the conventional name of peace , we have in the heart of society the reality of war , and thia too in a country that claims to be the leader of Enropran civilisation , and ranks high as the chosen child of industrial progress , and the friend of utilitarian science .
Must such a state of distrust and misery continue * Rea « on and humanity revolt at the idea of prolonged suffering , and yet , nt this hour , the terrible andincompre . _henslble combat continues , it strengthens with itB ages and m illions of deaths pay tribute at its call . We caanot say to the fertile wombs of our mothers , sisters , nnd wive , —he barren , and give not birth to man ; we cannot have produce from the land that we do not possess ; wc cannot stifle the _gnawincK of hunger ; children will cry for bread and mothers say to fathers , provide food for your little ones . Again we nsk , is this intestine and destructive war to continue , that is alike ruinous to the true interests of all and more to bo feared than _pestilenceor disease ! For . bid such conclusion , God and man , __ Justice reasons for a change—right demands nn annihilation of wrongs o the injured—and an insulted and forbearing people pant for a redress of cricvances .
Mistaken views of individual interests may bias the perc'ptton and prejudice the judgment ; but yet security of life and property , the increase of virtue , morality , and happiness , must be true desires , and the real interest of all men , and must , from their very nature of progress , be consonant with true prosperity and real national greatness , and _withiut the practical embodiment of which virtues , the multiplication of mechanical power _, the _extent of territorial _doma- ' n , the increase of national wealth , the power of armies and navies , are but glittering deceptions , that mislead the unwary , havine the por _» p of grandeur _wltliout the germs of worth , nnd the name of greatness without tho affections of a people .
The age of feudalism ruled and _governed in the dark ness of its _ignorance , and in its dayyieJded uppart of its power to the necessities of tie times . After a long and protracted struggle between the _buvgherand middle class feudalism conceded nn < _xtension of the suffrage as set forth in the Reform Bill ; and of late years we have had great commercial and fiscal changes -, butnono of these changes have materially improved the condition of tho people . On the contrary—eff . cts of the organic and circumstantial causes cf internal antagonism — deaths have increased in tlieir biting keenness . A change is
inevitable , and tre invite _' the good and virtuous men of all classes to reflect on the _present _stato of the people , We demand an enfr ; nchisemetit of the _rna _' e adult popula . tion of Great Britain , as set forth in the People ' s Char _, ter , in the hopes that , on a basis so broa'l and crmprehensive , the intelligence of a people renowned in litoature nnd science , will _reflect its influence in the institu . tions and government of the land in which they live , and restore peace , virtue , and _treasure to the homes of all' her citizens , and conserve the sacred principles of righ t and _justics within the breasts of her rulors .
God save ihe people ! National Assembly , May 10 th , 18-18 . "Tic said , he did not desire that this addresB _slionhi be printed and circulated , bun thit , being adopted by the Assembly , it might get into tbe columns ofthe newspapers , and so reach tho attention of all classes of the community . _Papers he _intended sbould follow upon the increased value of land , decrease of wages , increase of taxiition . the _inclostire of land , and , generally , en the condition of the people of this country . He held that this _Assembly anei the Chartists _ruj-ht to be Conservative and Radical ; Radical , in going to thc root of the evil * of tho pcoplo ; and Conservative of all tiat is good in humanity . Tbe progress which was being made , was called by some revolution—it might be better known
as evolution . The progress from feudalism was fi _^ t from barbarism to pseudo-civilisation , and frnm pseudo civilisation to oivilisaticn—properly ao called —involving all the best interests of humanity . lie knew the people of this country—he know tbe peasantry of this country ; than whom there were none more _conservative of property ; and so long as tbe mothers of England were the nurses of the rising generation , fo long was thero a security for tho interests of humanity and of property . < IIear , hear . ) Mr West was gratified that the present question had been taken up in the Assembly . Nothing at present occupied on equal amruntof attrntion . as thia question of Labour , among the people . The Assembly , in taking it , only _gfiotved tlieir
competency to _legislate on subjects like this . He hoped that tbe nest _addre-ses _weu'd nt t be confined so much fo abstraot principles , but would discuss tbe evils and humbug of the different _systems—sucb as free trade . Why , -what was stated the other night in tbo House of Commonj . by Lord Georee Bentinck , in reference to his own trade , the silk _weaving ? Tba' , durinc the first three months of tbis yen' -, as much as £ -100 , 000 worth of silk bad been imported into _London , at a time when the _Spitalfilds weavers were starving ! This was the _pecu'iar effect of free trade . It supported those who were rich—cheapened the goods for the rn—depressed the state of tho labourer , who was called upon , notwithstanding , to meet an increasing taxation , and to pay tbe most of that . He seconded the notion .
_MrDoMVAN thought they were now about to retrieve their position . Tbis was a question which they ought to have taken up long before , and tbey might , thereby , havo prevented all the divisions and dissatisfaction which appear at present to exist in the ceuntry . Mr CiiBVKR thought tbis reminded hira of what occurred in thereformed Parliament . John Fielden , M , P . for Oldham , brougkton tbe question of _Labsur befiretbat Parliament . Ue said , the condition of the working man now waB , that he had to do three
times as much labour forthe same amount of wages as he was _writf to do . Tbo _taxc , too , were i _-icreased—the more to _drprtbs the ability of the working man . How was this to be remedied ? The lion , member referred to tbe desires of the gentleman , the men ben- fer Tamwortb , that property might bo protected , and said , this was what he anil the working men requited . Tbey wished to have their property protected . _Eightu-n years , however , bad passed _sinco that time , and the evils complained of hnd still to be remedied .
Mr Hekhy _e ' ented that the Assembly had been misusing their time ; they had been labouring to ( fleet Lhe organisation of tbecountry . _wi'hout which notbiug could be done ; and , in _compa-ison , everything else was but secondary . He however would support the motion . Mr Child and Mr Abbs supported the motion . Mr Vernon said , it had been insinuated by Mr Donovan , thatthe Assembly was _returning to reason . Every man could speak best of bis own state of mind ; il Mr Donovan _axui hi * reason had been two
separate _idmli'ies ; be denied for himself any participation with bim . He considered tbat the subjects wbich bad occupied tbeir attention were those which they had been sent to do , not to discuss abstract principles , Thei hopes ofthe country hid beon raised , it was eaid , and disappointed , and he must say they would be disappointed if they continued to discuss whether free trade was right or not . He , for one , believed free trade was perfectly right— -as r _' _uht n _» the Charter waB—nnd that neither would succeed without the other . Free trade had already failed in
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consequence oftho Charter not havfog beon made the law of the land . The Chairman held that the discussion of such a question at this raiment , prepared tbe public mindprepared tbe Assembly for the attainment of their rights—and prepared them to act in a way proper to the _circurastances . of thy nation , after they hnd got their rights . The great question was the Labour question—it was being discussed at the Chartist meetings , and if tbey would take _advantare of surrounding circumstances , they must prepare to speak
out on It tothe perfect comprehension of the _' eountry . Mr Kybd in reply , said it was an old idea , which had been adopted lately by Gu zot , that moral _. _soeial , and | _olitical reform , all sprang from man and returned upon man . The one was not antagonistic to tbe other . A politician bad said tbat political reform was the means , and moral reform the end . Political reform was a step iu progreas towards social reform , and social reform was that which conducted to moral reform . Virtue being the end of man ' s life , the great object which humanity had to seek was to be obtained tLrough political and social
improvement . The address was unanimously voted . Mr Child handed in 10 s . from tbe Somers Town Chartists , as a donation towards the Liberty Fund . The Chairman here intimated that he bad received JetterMgned by the secretary of his locality , and containing a resolution calling upon him to resign _, fie , therefore , now tendered his resignation . After aome conversation , during which it was said that a Email district meeting had called upon a member to resign , against the _wishes of his constituents it was moved * That the Business Committee be instructed to write to the parties , and tbat the Chairman ' s resignation as a delegate be not received , in the meantime . '—Agreed to .
The Country and the Charter . Dr M'Dooali , Baid , out of the mass of correspondence which had been received , the Committee had determined on reading one letter , as a specimen of the rest . It was the following : — To the Chairmanofthe National Assembly . We , the committee appointed by the public , and the Associated Trades' delegates , of Glasgow , to conduct the Chartist agitation in this distriet of the country , after a considerate examination of the present aspect of our movement , and a calm deliberation on the position of all parties connected with its guidance , come to this conclu . sion —tbat perfect unanimity ( no matter what petty differences exist _; must ho tho watchword of our leaders . _Ourchances of success imperatively demand it . And we would Impressively desire to direct the attention of our representatives , and thepsople ' _s friend , Mr O'Connor , to that _opinion . We trust-earnestly trust—that our herein expressed desire for unanimity will be accepted by both parties , in the Bame unalloyed sincerity and good will , with which we presume to offer it .
We have a right to deal with our representatives ; and we seriously urge them to * _se every effort in the National Assembly , on the least show or shadow of disunion , to arrest its progress at the instant , so that one firm and united course of action , be tbe order of thc day , by all parties honestly disposed to aid onr movement for the Charter . With' Ur O'Connor we have no right to _ieo . as with a servant ; he is not responsible to us ; but to him we appeal as a Chartist—as one who has been a chief instrument in moving the multitudes of this country , thereby possessing great influence for good . And wo crave of him , that at this moment , so far as his conscience will permit , he will Bink _aHJdifferences of opinionjthat may exist between him , and any members of the Assembly ; that he will _. forthe sake of Chartism , and the poor ptrishing peopio of tlrs miserably oppressed country , even veil his own feelings , ond try to restrain his temper , fretted by hasty __ though we trust honest men , who deem it their duty to differ with hin , on his policy .
Our motives are strictly honest and sincere . We dread with trembling hearts , that any disunion or appearance of it , should in the least affect tbe auspicious position of our movement . Our hearts are in this entreaty to both parlies ; and our hopes are that it may be ofsome avail in _allajinu any _bitterness , any ill-feelings , or any opposition _arising from any differences that exist . The ( yes of our country are directed to the representatives of the people , and our hopes were centered there ; but with sad regtet we are constrained to feel them changing . To promote theCharter , was and is their duty ; but instead , we bear of idle tirades of denunciationsimilar to what has ruined our party in times past . And in place of a memorial agitation , we see their timevaluable and important time — frittered away in petty
debates , on matters comparatively unimportant atthe present stage of our movement . Business is _neglected ; and while they are careless , the agitation in the eountry wanes , Of sixteen propositions to be discussed , what have we ! Why , the memorial to our Sovereign made the last , and apparently the least , while their duty was to make it their first , their greatest , and their leading work . Therefore , we implore the delegates of the people , to pursue that open , clearsighted , and determined course , which tlieir constituencies expected of them . Let ihem remove any necessity for future agitations for our great object—the Charter . And let them prevent the possibility of a still unenfranchised people , blaming them with thefailureofa glorious movement in 1848 . Let them , therefore , be up and doing , while the day is .
We _perfectly well know , that even a limited number of men cannot think alike on all matters . All that we desire to see in our party , is a spirit of charity and jus ticepredominant—that they will ' agree to differ . ' And that all denunciation shall be cast away from our movement for ever . Prudence , cauUon , and patriotism , point with anxiety to 18 o 9 , and 1842 ; those periods of Chartist history stand up Uhe beacons in the sea of agitation . Let our pilots at this moment , then , be warned and guided by them . Sink all acrimony , all foolish ideas of superiority , all unmanly strife for popularity and leadership . Be Chartist * , strictly and truly Chartists ; and let selfishness and ambition be , at this portentous time , subservient to perfect honesty and unanimity .
Our reason for thus writing is , that we _conci ive it _dangerous to make any _differtnees between the Assembly and Mr O'Connor a public debateable question through _, out the country . The _tendency of such a course would be , to split our now ' almost Irresistible party into minor bodies , holding different views on minor points , thereby iveafeenin ; .- ourpowcrs of action , and giving the interested enemies ofthe people a dangerous , if not _aiuinous _. ' advantaee , in _thepresent struggle forour liberty . Such then , aro our entreaties ; such are our desires ; and in the full faith they will be attended to ; in the complete trust that all parties will uie their best _efferts to pron-. ote our views , we hope lhat nil danger will be avoided , and our triumph soon secured . In name of Committee , William _Doqhebtv , chairman , Democratic Hall , Irongate , _Glasgow . May 8 th , 1848 .
De M Uouall felt assured that none had come to that Assembly but who were prepared to sk rifiee tlieir prejudices and their differences . Some had already sacrificed their property ; they were now prepared to sacrifice their lives—why not tbeir prejudices and diff : rences > . Tbe _Committee had determined to move a resolution , which he would submit lo them without Cimment . It was—That this Assembly distinctly declares , that , as a bod y , it has not entertained any question affecting the character of Mr O'Connor , or that of any other gentleman . On principle it has constantl y discountenanced , and does now repudiate , all personalities .
The Assembly have strictly adhered to the principles of the People ' s Charter , wliich pesitively affirm , that all power springs from the people , and that their will expressed through tlieir representatives shall be law . Considering Uio Assembly a full and fair representation of the ChartiBt body , wo , after due deliberation , andthe free expression of opinion from all quarters , decided on _summoninir as many delegates as possible , to give the utmost weighttoa deliberative body , having for its duties the organisation ofthe country , the election of an Executive , and the direction of the movement to a speedy and fortunate termination . That we unanimously decided on a conciliatory policy with all parties . That in so far we have anticipated the instructions of the various constituencies , and _thpt we again repeat our earnest _deniro for perfect unanimity , and a firm and decided course of action , based on a prac tical observance of the principles of the Charter , and _tl-c avoidance on our part of all sources or dissent Of _CilllSP of disunion , Mr Child seconded it . Carried unanimously .
Mr Donovan moved , 'That it be printed and circulated through lhe country . ' Carried unanimously . Mr Leach , moved , ' That an address be drawn up founded on the resolution , and panted . ' Carried unanimously . Mr _M'GnATH moved , ' That this address ba drawn up by the Executive . ' Carried unanimously .
Organisation . Dr M'Douall then said , the appointment of trustees was the next point in ore ' er . Mr CniLD moved , _« T hat wo have threo trustees . ' _ Siiaw seconded this , which , after a litt _' e consideration , was cartied . Mr J . Sh & w . ( London . ) Mr Child , and Mr Milne were then ppointedto be the trustees of the Chartist body . It wss unanimously voted that th" ? Natioml Land and _Labour Bank be the bank of the Chartist body . It was unanimously voted , tbat each dis ' riot and loca'ity have control orer the district ; and local fund . On the motion that tha salaries of the Executive I e £ 2 per week , with 2 _j . 6 J . a day , and second class fare when travelling _.
Mr Adams moved , fclat it be £ 2 . 10 ' . per week . He considered this qnite necessary in _Londsn , and he was not one who should wish to see any man ir difficulties . He would like to add a pecuniary inducement also to the efficient _discharge of the duties of any office , lie spoke in this from his own experiencc , always working best and most spirited when he was best ftd . ( Laughter ) Mr Mackintosh _secou'ied tho resolution , because if they expected tbe Executive to devote tbe whole of their time to the duties of tbeii-office , the salary proposed by Mr Adams was quite small _enough to maintain thpm . "
Mr CniLD opposed the motion . Thero were many men in London who were as _respeotable and as educated as the parties who wero appointed to those _oihees _, who did not reotivc one pound a week , ani who yet supported themselves and families , and paid subscriptions to the cause out of that sura . He _s-aid _, that they _onght to baas careful of the money taken from such people as they would of their _ewn . Aa to the _ _stalr-mc . rifc that a man could not live respectabl y in London on £ 2 a week , he could understand that statement , it might be true as respected the Scottish delegates , who lived in coffee-bouses , but if tbey were permanently _located in London they would find out how to live upon £ 2 a week . lie said , they ought to ba honest in the mara : ement of tho public money , and if they were not honest tbey oughtto go to the devil . ( Laughter . ) Mr Vernon took tbe same view of the question ' but at tbe same time he thought thatthe servants ofthe Association should _particulate in itB prosperity ,
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and the result of their own efforts , and , therefore , they ought to be mere largely remunerated , if , in future , the income of ( be _Assoeiatiin was increased through their eiertionB . Mr Stetrkson also supported _tnejjlan of the committee , He understood from people who had lived in London that , with the exception of rent and _cjials , a man could live as cheaply in London as in any country town ; and looking at tho rate of wages now paid to working men , be was of opinion that £ 2 a week was quite _enough , and bi ? was sure that , at present , they could not afford to pay mere , and that any man who was a patriot , would manage to live in London upon tbat amount . Mr T . Clark observed , the question was argued as if the members of tbe Executive were always to he iu London , whereas they would be frequently absen 6 from tbeir families .
Mr Carver said , retrenchment was the order of the day , and it weuld be much better for tbem to lay downa Bmall amount to begin with rather tban to fix an extravagant sum , and then bave to travel back again . Mr Basskt had lived both in the country and in London , and therefore had some experience in ihe matter , and he was satisfied tha' £ 2 a week was quite little enough for a private individual . A a a family man , he could state that hia ' necessary outlay exceeded tbat sum . lie was anxious thatthe Erecutive of the Association should be placed in a / espectab . ' e _positien _, and looking at the fact tbat they would have almost every night to attend public meetings and lectures in different parts of London , even , if they were constantly resident in it , and aa it waB impossible , as he knew fr 3 m experier . ee , that tbis could be done without expense , he was of opinion that £ 2 was teo small a salary .
Mr J . Shaw ( Tower Hamlets ) had ever been an advocate for paying a man according to his services , but at tbe fame tine be was satisfied that £ 2 a , week was as much as the Association could _sfiord , and would be approved of by the members ; as \ o the expenses of attending meetings , which had been alluded to by Mr Basset , he hoped the metrepolitan localities would take thafc into consideration , and _prevent those _expenses , ao they easily could do , from falling as a burden upon the members of tae Executive . ( Hear , hear . ) After some further discussion tho amendment and motion were put to the vote , and the proposition ofthe committee was carried by a large majority . Mr _Ebnbsi Jokes said , the next point _wass the salary to be paid to the Commissioners . Tbe c << _samittee prepreed tbat it sbould te at the same vaU as the Executive , namely , £ 2 a week , when they were employed _.
Mr T . Clabk suggested tbat tbey also bave Ihrir fare paid ,. when travelling , and tbe 2 s , 6 d . a day allowance for expenses . Mr Ehnest _Jonbs agreed to this addition , and after _aahort conversation the motion was agreed lo . Mr Ebse * t Josxs thpn stated thatthe next question waB the duties of officers ; and firBt cf tbe Executive . The committee proposed to define their duties aa follows : — -To superintend the movement ; and direct its _ptvrer ; to publish frrquent _rcporti of their proceedings , and of tie state ot the _moverr _. ' ent ; to issue tracts and addresses wb 6 H necessary a ! _s > to issue monthly financial statements , snd ti convene an assembly of the people ' s representatives in case of emergency . Mr T . Cl / anKmoved — _'Thnt this definition ofthe Executive be adopted , ' and tne _. motion _naa imme « diately carried .
Mr _Edr-est Jones then said , tbe next resolution was as to tbe duties of Commissioners , which the committee proposed to be : —To carry into practical operation the instruction !) of tbe Executive , and to be under fhe control of that body . Mr T . Clark said he bad no objection to move the adoption ot tbat resolution . Mueh > bad been said oa former occasions as to the mysterious and secret _pewerB of these _Consmissioneis , bit , as he _hadtbserved yesterday , it seemed to him tbey wire merely tbe old lecturers under a new name . Ab far _as he understood the nature of tbe duties they would bave to perform they were _tbc-e— they would have to :-1 .
tend public meeting ? , and deliver lectures . The _Mlecturers did that . When differences arose in any district , they _wi-nld bave to mediate between contending parties , and endeavour to leconcile themthe old lecturers did that . They would have to report to the Executive as to the state of the movement in the district to wnich they were sent—the old lecturers did so . They would be under the control of the Executive _generally , _~ . and so were the old lecturers . He therefore did not see any difft rence between the new commissioners' and the old lecturers , and be considered that thero was no necessity for the tone in which these newly-appointed officers bud been _epoket' of .
Mr CniLD seconded the motion , and hoped tbat the commissioners , when tbey went out te lecture , wou'd confine _Ihemeelves to plain common sense ; give themselves no airs ; and if they had any _sarcastic . power * , would leave them at home carei ' uiiy locked up . Mr T . Clark asked if he _wai to make that addition to his motion , because , if Mr Child requested if , he was ready to do so ? ( Laughter , auu bear hear . ) This question led ioa somewhat- sharp coss firing on the part of several delegates , in tne _course ot which MrRanfcinand Mr Vernon complained of Mr Clark's satirical manoer ; and Mr Clark said , that as every man had , and could not help havin _/ , hia own munuer , he thought they should agree to _aisutual toleration ih tbat respect .
Dr M Douall said the question before them was no laugh ins : matter , but a solemn one . It was the nature of thprfrt _' _es to be performed by officers who would havo to act with and for tbe people , at a time when tens of _tbousaors of them were plunged in the deepest _destituiisn , and t'au country was on the brit . k of a revolution ; he , therefore , deprecated all liberty upon such a question , and thought they should discuss it with the utmost calmness and deliberation , Mr Basset , as one of the commissioners , did not understand tbat be was expected to be a lecturer . If so , he would not have accepted the position ; he merely supposed that he wns to be the confidential correspondent for his district , and to set in such cases as _mi-ht be entrusted to him by the Eva * cut ive .
Mr West said , thrse frequent _discussions proved how vague and indefinite an idea prevailed in lhe Assembly aato the real duties and powers of _cli-. se _'ifficers , and also the _neceaeity for a more accurate aad explicit definition of tbem . ( Hear , hear . ) It they were to possess the confidence of tbe people , tbey must know what their duties were , lie , for one , thought they would have something more to do than merely to make speeches—they must _organiso the country . ( Hear , hear . ) They would bave to come into communication with the leaders of other partias , and lay down the policy , conciliatory or otherwise ,
which would have to be pursued towards tbe 3 e _partes ( Hear , hear . ) It was an important office , and therefore its duties ought te be clearly defined . Mr Ernest Jokes said that the duties of the cm * _aiissioners would not be simply confined to mere lecturing . They would in reality be the confidential staff of the Executive , who would have to _aos uader the instructions of . the Executive according as the cir cum & _tances arose , and it was . therefore , impossible for tbe Assembly to _specify to the letter what their < _iuties would be , or to lay down any specific code of instruction . ( Hear , hear . I
Mr Donovan said , that it was very true they could not lay down all that _mteht recur in one month or two months hence , but at the same time when he went back to Manchester , and was asked by his constituents what the _dutUs of these commissioners were , and was only able to reidy _. tbat they were to obey the instructions of the Executive , he could assure them that the council of Manchester would not take that view ofthe business , nor would they b _; content unlos 3 they had the instructions of the Executive communicated to them , and the control of the commissioner . Another practical difficulty which he
_» aw was tbis . tho commissioners were not to be permanently errpleyi d but only when the Executive required thtir services . Now a man might ba called on for a fewdays , who by the custom of his trk'h in manufacturing districts could not leave without three weeks or a month ' s notice , and if he did so would be placed in the hands ofthe police . ( _llenr , hear . ) Mr Rankin said , that many ot the delegates appeared to talk as if they were going to _rcalie _preparations for a protracted agitation , and a * if they wished to drag from tbo _Business C > intflitfcee some exp _' _anations which he , as one of thatleommitlee , would uot consent should be dragged from him .
Mr West rose with s me warmth to demand , thafc if the Business Committee hnd any views which had not been stated , that tbey should be laid btfore thO Assembly . Mr _Cicurank thought the discussion wns a very useless one , and quite agreed in tiie views of tl O Committee , as far as they had been stated . Mr Carver said , he wanted an explanation as to what was meant by dragging out from tho Committee matters which they were determined not to explain ? .,, ., ., . Mr Wheeler , as one nf th « Committee said , that they had no secret policy or p lans whatever to explain , and as to the objection of Mr _Donovan , it a commissioner was called upon to give his services , who was placed in the situation supposed by Mr Donovan , all tba ' , would be recessary , when the Executive four . d that be could not leave his work , would be to app ly immediately to the next nearest
commissioner . . Several other members of the Committee denied that there was ap . ythinr secret in their plana , and said that Mr Rankin had been misunderstood ; and after a few words from the Chairman , the Assembly adjourned at oae o ' clock , in pursuance of the _standing orders , without any decisisn being come to on the subject . _, AFTERNOON SITTING . Mr Cniu > handed in a sovereign , as the contribution ofa fritnd to lhe cause-The _Chapman siid he bad received a ' _etter from some indivirii aU , which he looked upon aa nothing but a _downriih " . insult to ihe AMjimbly .
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Northern Star (1837-1852), May 13, 1848, page 3, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns3_13051848/page/3/
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