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>~ S THE NORTHERN STAR. August 12, 1848.
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them they returned into the country and commencec the work of destruction . Upwards of one hundred negroes have been sh nt , seven have been condemne _., and two have been shit at ihe Fort pate . The principal ringleader is at large with a mmber of to" _»» - lowers . A provisional government has p <* n ap pointed , but the prosperity of the island is _lrreineY-* It _. _"iu-tRtia there b ad been a revolt ofthe m _* . grce _., in repressing wbifc several were _pounded The ringleaders were taken and placed on beard the Dutch man-of-war Pyl , bound to CuracoawJere they would be tried . It was also stated that four negroes _ re killed during the _insurrection at St _Eustatia .
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MONDAY , AcGtJST 7 . HOUSE OF LORDS On the motion of tho Marquis of C-Atf _*' ICABI > r i tbeRvproJuctive Loan F _ d Institution ( Ireland ) _B-Ji was read a _second _tio-e , Oa the _mstion of Lord __ r __ GL _ , the Jay-nil . _Offenders ( Ireland ) Bill was read a second ti _ e . The Run . DutieB Bill was read a _scc . nd time . The other bills wtre advanced a eta . , and their lordships adjourns .. _HOOBE OF COMJ-O-x _' S —The Loed Advocate , in a speech of details . In proof of tha intfficiency cf the ex . _iitn . law with regard ta tha _registration of births , & C , in Scotland , and to that of marriage in that country , which he c . n . _ldered a public reproach , move- the second reading of bills having for their object to place the . e subject 3 on a more _sdtlsfactory balls . in the of
A somewhat hostile debate ensued , coursa which the postponement of the measures until next _. _estion was strongly urged , more than one hon . member _moTiog that they b _ read a Becon _. time thst day tbree months , others _suggesting she propriety of affirming the princip les of the measure by reading them a _secon _. timo , and the then postponement of them , in order that thep - ople of Scotland might have an opportunity of considering the suggested enactments and tha amendtneBts , of which notice _alr-ady had been given , in the interval b- Vw . en this and ths _ensuing _sesslen . At length the motions for delay were withdrawn , and the bill * were read a _a _. con _* tim-, the Lord Adrocate taking till _Fa- _' ay to consider whether he would pr _. _sa the bill further this BeESiou or not . At a quarter past three th _? sitting was suspended till fire
. .. „ On resuming , Hr _Labocchebs , ia answer to Mr _Hche < stated that it waB not the intention of the government to _insti'ate any farther _ir-qalry Into the management of th e Herchant Seamen ' s Fund until the bill for altering the navigation laws had been passed . Jj £ 5 __* -TI 05 OF _S-i-tER 4 T Q-EB-C—Aad in answer to s question from Mr _Monskll , the right hoa , gentleman stated that thi Earl of Eigin and the merchants of Quebec were engaged in devising means for putting a . top to the d . stttlou of _n-erchaat se-m _. a at that port . _Sdoas Duties . —Lord J . Russell , in reply to a question from Lord 6 . _BEsrnscs , said it was not his _iotantlon to bring on the Sugar Duties to-n i ght , bat he weald _ijIts the Hoblo lord timely notice of his intention to do SO .
_Co-tHEBciAt _DisTBES 3 . —Mr H ___ -iza asked the ooble lord whether be could find a day for discussing the _repart of the committ . e on cosamercial distress , as the houie would not stand w _. ll with the country unless some discussion was had before they _prorogued , and that with a view to pled ge themselves early next session to bring forward some _remedial measures . Lord Johh Russell _suggented Tu-. day aB the only 4 _ay open to the right honourable g _ t _.- ___ - for such a discus . ion . E-n-SAT _. _os Lord J . _K-Ssell , in answer to Lord Assl-T , said that tha government would be happy to _BfEist In spreading information as to emigration , but that government could grant no fun ' , for this purpose . Lord G . Behtince asked when the half million loan to the "West Indians tor labour emigration would be proposed by the government . Lord J . RC 53 _SLL rep lied after the Sugar Duties Bill ¦ was passed .
Bcsikess or the House . —Lord J , Russell gave node , that he should move iha 6 U . pea . ion ofthe order _affecting _Wednesday's sittings , and propose that during the rema nd < r of the _sessloa , the house Bhould , oa Wednesdays , sit from twelve to three , to take the orders of the day , and fr _ ra five o ' clock during the remainder of the evening to go into committee of supply . A _ CiiiCAH Postage . —Lird Pa __ _eb-tost , in answer to Hr Cardwell , said that he could not lay en the table tho _correspondsnee _relating to the American postal tariff , 89 negotiations were still pending . Mr P . Howard begged to ask her Mej . sty ' s Secretary for Foreign _Affiira whether it was the intention of her _Hsjetty ' _s government , either _-iag-ly or in coacert with her allies , to mediate between Sardinia and Austria , for the purification cf the north of Italy ?
Lord Palhebstov a < 5 ured _thshous . that her Majesty ' s government was deeply sensible ef the importaaee of puttiag an end to the war la tha north of Italy , and he was happy to be able to say that this sentiment was shared by the governmsut of France . Tbe result of which was that in concert with France ministers were taMng steps ia _wder by amicable negotiations to bring that war to a termination . ( Hear . ) Public Health BiLL . —Lord Moh ? _etu moved that the house resolve _itsel _. _lutn a committee to _consider the Lords' am . _ndmants oa clause 8 , and said he did aot mean to propose to disagree to tfee ameadment made by the Isrds on the clause at the instance of a most reverend prelate , but he proposed to add sn amendment to tbe lords' amendment , to the tffect that when mortality
should exceed the rate of tweaty-three in 1 , 600 In any locality , the Board of Health should have power io send down Inspectors without any petition from _one-tenth of the inhabitant " . He considered this tha more necessary in consequence of the certain approach of the cholera . On this subject he did not wish to excite any _uedae alarm , but he felt he should aot aot a fair er friendly part either to the house or the publio If he was to conceal the fact , that it had been ascertained tbat the cholera was advancing in precisely the same track which it hsd pursued in 1332 , and that its approach had b . en heralded as it was in the last visitation by tbe same _preounsrs—the inflaenz . and _dlsrrfccea . He regretted to State that it did not corns iu a softened degree , and therefore he thought It neeeiiary to state a few facts
and particulars which had bsen received from British ministers and consuls abro 2 d . He found from a return received from St _Petersburg up to the latest date , that In that city there had been 17 , 099 cases of cholera . Of these there fc _ " _oeen 10 , 153 deaths , and -, 618 cas . s of cure ; so that tbe _proportion of deaths from that malady at St _Pit-Tibnre had bsen in the proportion of fifty _, seven ia every 100 , while the cures were enly twenty-six in every 190 . At Moscow there had been 9 , 457 cases , of which there were -, S 09 deaths . It was further stated that st _0-essa _, ths e __ er extremity of Rastls , there had wen 133 cases , of which forty-four ended in death , aad only thirty-three had recovered . In various parts of Bessarabia the cholera was advancing rapidly , and in FontaraDia , _Bachareit , and other places , the ... safest
alarm prevailed . At Goa , daring the last w _ . k the cholera has inere _.-ed , though tha mortality ba , noi been great , but in a _village distant about one hour ' s ride i torn that city , nearly the whole population had p . rl ihed _. At JasBy the deaths had been ttth 9 rate of 100 o ISO _>? r day , aud the consul stated that the malady _appeared to be of quite a novel character , teing so rap dly destructive that the victims were carried off int ro er three hours . This was attributed to the ertrerr e heat of the season , aad it waa added that all the tribuaals and schools were dosed * , and , to increase the misery of the population , an enormous swarm of locust- had appeared ta all directions . In the neighbourhood adjoining to Jassy the cholera was raging with great violence . At BeIgrave It was prevalent ; and a swarm of caterpillars ,
_guch as never before had been seen , had appeared in the valleys , and destroyed every plant—the roads were literally black with them , and with their presence the cholera r _3--ed . It was subsequently stated from Belgrade that the malady raged in a most dreadful form , and the _coasul stated he had not heard of a single case of recovery . The last extract to which he should call _attention was from Grand Cairo . The consul-general stated tbat there the rt . iavio cholera bad appeared ia a form of unusual _aaUjnlty . Hitherto Its ravages hsd been confined to the ei . Vt _ _e 1 ?" , bnt whs - was most melancholy and extraordinary « as , that altheugh the « u _ r < _ri hal received all possible- aid from medical men of great _eipari . _ncs , and _ x-u _ to _ - _ed to treat the _disease , not one case had been gavel , bnt every patient had died In the couree of a very
few hours after the first attack . He ( Lord Morpeth ) did QOt BUPP tnat tne aa ° P tion of tbis bill , or any of _i' 8 clau . es , woultlbB _expected to arrest the approach of thiB _maligBant and mysterious disease , which seemed to bs brooding over the whole of Europe ; but still all testimony OU the subject w . nt to show that it they could n < -t arrest its progress to prevent the arrival ia this country , they still might very materially modify its _effects , if not save some districts altogether from its ravages . He had with him a very able _veluma of the British asd Fosei 8 R Medical asp _Csibcesical Review , contain Ing an article which showed that in any country it waB possible to foretell ths locality in which the cholera would appear , and the class of people who wouli ba _ J .. cl- < - by it . The locality would be _whero the air was damp from exhalation , from rivers
ana marshy grounds , or where _vegetable and animal matte , we ., by n _ l"ct _, allowed to accumulate , and the _clsss of people who would most Severely _. uff _. r would be those exposed to these noxious influences . In fact _durlBg the last _visltatien of the malignant disease It i __ imo-t . everely in ___ _ c _ . t _. r and other large towns ia the vicinity of the watrr . cour . e 3 , asd in dUtrlcti whlch w _. ra _notoriously in a bad sanitary condition . Th _^ se were t he localities which iavited an . wooed the appro . ho . the cholera , and the class whioh had be 6 n deciminted by its ravages w . re the poorer clas . _ei , thus exposed to the attacks of t-is most malignant and my-t _^ - _ioU . disease . On thesa grounds he felt just'Sed in _casing upoa the oammi-tee to adopt this amendment convinced that In making the proposition he had done what in nim lay to prevent the _ tent of this most dreadful f .. -Hence . ( Hear , hear . )
A considerable portion t > f tho evening was spent in discussing the Lords' amendments . Several cf the amendments were agreed to , and some ethers __ ated from ; andH was determined to ask a conference with the Lords on the points upon whioh the two bouses differed . Taxatio » . _ Oq the motion that the house resolve Itetf iato a _Ooaoittee of Supply ,
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Mr Ewabt rose to move ' that It is expedient tbere be I a revision of onr present system of taxation ; especially aith a view to extend tho commerce ofthe country and to increase tbe employments and comforts of the people . ' The time had new como when it became necessary to consider the taxation of the couatry with a view to \ u revision , and he begged to guard himself In the oatset from being supposed to advocate any vast or sudden cbaBge from the -j __ t-- _ 6 ? _It-. _lr-. t to that of direct taxation . The present system of taxatlen was a complete maze and labyrinth , and lhe Chancellor of the Erchequer could confer no greater bsnefit oa the country than by reducing to order the preBent undigested mass . They ought _tedo something to convince the people of tl is eonntry that they appreciated the patience with wh ' ch they endur _ the _' r privations . No people could
bi more deserving of attention at the hands of the ge . vernment . In consequence of the events on the contl nent the value of the exports from this couatry had fallen off two or three millions . They could ouly make up for this loss by _txtending their trade with China _ d Amerio _.. The first thing , therefere , they should do would be to reduce tha tea duties , aad as soon as possible the tobacco auty . The system of indirect taxation principally eff cted the poorer classes . __ They were alio the greatest _suffeiers from the adulteration of articles on _o-hlchhlgh duties ware placed . These _oomlderationa should have weight with the government and tho house . Bnt tho principal consideration was that these duties tended to Unit the extension of their commerce , and , therefore , the employment of tha ) people . The people
were beginning to complain loudly of these duties . At Liverpool and Manchester associations had been formed , for tbe purpose of pointing out to the government and tO the country the most practicable and beneficial modes _ofredistr'bntiDg the taxation of the empire , and in especial of relieving commerce from the burdens with which it was oppressed bo injuriously , not only to the trading classes but to the whole community . The duties upon tea r < quired thorough revision . Tea wee an article which , from being merely a luxury of the rich , had become a _nscos . ary of tho poor , and were the duties upon it placed on a proper footing , thara would scarcely be a limit to the consumption of the article—a result whieh , while practicably most productive to the revenue , would create au immense increase la oar trade with
China , and thereby a vast addition lo the emp ' oymentof the poor . With a duty of Is , on tea , he had no doubt that England would become the great depot of tea for the whole western world . The duties on tobacco , also , required lm . mediate and thorough revision . This was a tax whioh fell very hardly upon the poorer olasses , with whom tobacco was a necessary of life . There conld be no donbt that a proper reduction of the duties oa tobacco would materially _augmont the revenue , for at present , the excessive amount of the tax so encouraged fraud of every description in the conduct of the trade , that the far greater proportion of tie article sold as tobacco , was either smuggled altogether , or so extensively adulterated , as to produoe , In comparison with the consumption of the c < mn _ odtty , a very iaadequate revenue . A .
implificntion of thsse and similar duties would enable the governmeat to make larger reductions in the cost of our _cus . toms department , and almost to dispense ultimately with onr coast guard , a service alone costing the country nearly £ . 00 , 000 per annum . The course upon whieh the right hon . baronet the member for Tamworth had entcred , in tbe abolition or reduction of duties , had bsen attended with such beneficial effects to the country , In every respect , that hs was only surprised that tbe present government had not more determinedly followed In hig footsteps . There was the artiele of soap : it was genf rally admitted that cleanliness was something be * ynnd b m re o _ ifort , thai it waa an absolute virtue , a circumstance essential to the public health , but the eieise duty on the artiele , while it interfered most
injuriously with trade , _iffectually preoluded the dueprac ties of thia virtue . He considered that it would ba an excellent thing to abolish altogether the duty on Boap Another excise duty which he would fain sweep away , was tbe duty on paper , a duty materially impeding tbe progress of education , and consequently the _progress of _toctal happiness and well being , end at the Bame time _srreatly cramping a branch of commerce which might otherwise be largel y _exttnded . He _orjected , i .-irtber _, to th _3 _ ty on bricks as Interfering more especially with the comfort of the people . There were other taxes io rela . tiou to wbich commutation might be adopted — the window tax , for instance . There was the duty " on fire _insuranojs . again ; if this duty were reduced one-half , there _rrould be at least thrice the amount of revenue
derived from it . The duty on advertisements wag one which might be redaced with infinite advantage to the revenue , as well aa to tho _citFtnuolly , Iu the United States , where the _advertisement duty was on a proper footing-, the _number oi advertisements wh . _' eb paid duty tothe stat ? , wa « _lOmilllons to 700 , 000 in England . The stamp duties needed close revision , for at present , while ou a basis least calculated to benefit the state , they opersted most _Injarlmsly upoa the poorer classes of tha community . Mr Stewart , in bis able _esaay on the 'Facilitation of the Transfer of Landed Property , ' had poiBted out in a most lucid manner the impediment placed by the unequal imposition of these duties on the proper circulation of land . As to the legacy and pro-Inte duties , the interest of the state and of the community would b _9 best consulted by abolUhing thera altogether , and placing on them duty applicable to the no .
_qu'sltion By _bequ . _st of every description of property , landed as well as personal , ilr HuBkisson bad emphatically urged the commutation of our taxation , and the _transference of the main burden from commerce to property . Ia this view , Mr P . Thompson , Sir H . Parnell Lord Althorpe , nnd many other able politicians had f-l ! y concurred , and tbe right hon , member for Ternworth had practicall y admitted his adher _ i . ee to the principle ef the income tax . Oae great benefit from the system of direct texation would bo the enormous economy in collection . Fully two-thirds of ths present expenditure under this head would be _savtd by carrying out the views which he advocated . He asked for no wild change . _Hi only sought to raise the necessary revenue of the em . plre by means less oppressively weighing upon the In . _dustry of the country and the happiness of the com . munlty at large .
The Cbakcellos of tbe _Eicuequeb said that he agreed for the most part in the principles enunciated by his hon . friend , and he had endeavoured _taaot upon them as closely as the o ' _reumstancea of the country had enabled him . It would be a source of the highest _gratlfixation to him to proceed further ia the course suggested by his hou . friend , aa the finances ef tbe couatry should admit of his doing bo . He fully acknowledged the iu . < qualities which so injuriously characterised many features of oar taxation , acd he could assure his bon . friend thit he would appl y his best endeavours to their removal . ( Hoar , hear . ) After a snort discussion , the motien was negatived without a division . Ur _Huus pretested against going into Committee of Supply at that hour of tbe night on the Naval Estimates , especially as the evidence taken by the committee on those estimates bad not : yet been printed .
This led to some conversation , which _terminatsd in Lord John Russell ' s assenting tothe postponement of the Committee of Suppl y till Wednesday , The other orders of the day were thea disposed of , and the house adjoarned at a quarter to one . TUESDAY , August 8 . HOUSE OF LORD 3 . —AtTAiBS or _Sicilt . —Lord Starlet , in pursuance of the notice he had g iven on the previous evening , asked the Marquis of _Lansdawne whether this country had in any way interfered with _respect to the form of government that should be establish .: ? : by the Sicilians , after their successful revolt , and to be
with res _^ t ths individual who should placed at their head ? It had been Bald that her Majesty ' s ship Porcupine hadt . ea dispatched _fram Naples , wit ' i a genleman named Fas / an , belonging to the British Embassy , for the purpose oi intimating to Sicl ' y that England would not recognise its independence if a republic were established there , but that it would be recognised aa a kingdom if the son ofthe Stag of Sardinia ( the Duke of Genoa ) were declared King . He hoped the government would be able to give a distinct denial to these rumours ; but from the quarters whence he had derived hie infor . mathm , he could scarcely hops that tbe coble ____ rq _ _la had it in his power to do bo .
The Marquis of Lansddwke said the government had no participation , direot or Indirect , in the separation of Sicily from Naples , r 7 ben it became evident that tbe two countries could not remain uader one government , htr _M-jeBtj ' _s _raini-ters advised tbe Sicilians to elect a Prince of the Neapolitan line for their Sovereign . This -d-ice wai not accompanied with anything like a threat , or anything that could be _construed Into one . The Sicilians declined to act upon the BuggeBtion , and her _Majesty's government then advised them to elect their Sovereign from _amoogsi the royal families of Italy . In tho coura 8 a . _optsd by the government in reference to Sicliy , her Majesty ' s government had nothing to regret .
Lord S _tanl _. t _tbosght the answer of the noble mar . QQlS anything but satisfactory . The noble marquis had not explained how it waa that the English government had so far abandoned their position of neutrality , as to express their intention of acknowledging as an indepen . dent kingdom the rebellious provinces of a friendly power , before the insurgents hod sufficiently established themselves to justify us acknowledging their iudep-ndence , A short _disouasiOE followed , after which Lord Stanley withdrew his motion . Scfpbession or Illegal Societies (_ ELAN ») iB- _ L . — On the motion of _Lird Cotienham _, a bill wiih this title , and having ( as ha observed ) , Bpecial clau . es relating to clubs , was read a first time . Public Workg ( Irelaud ) Bill was read a third time and pasta _ . . _.. he tble
Their lordships forwirded the other bills on t . another stage and adjourned . THE HOUSE OF COMMONS met at twelve o dock . Tbe _SPEAKa informed tho houso that he had just received a letter from the Lord . Lieutenant , statlug thot Mr Smith O'Brien , a member of the house , had been arrested , and was now in custody oa a charge of high treason . n The Turnpike Roads ( Ireland ) Bill , the Canada Government Bill , and the Militia Ballot Suspension Bill , wera severally read a third time and passed . Ths r _. _perts on the _Chnrches Bill , on tho Freol & _Eiatlons of Fines Court of Common _Pieas Bill , and on the Poor-law Union Charges Bill were brought up and received , Tbe Westminster Improvement Bill was thea * 0 aa a second time _. Poos Law Union _Distaic- Bill . — . On the que * tion that the house _atwa'd _ Iato _ooamUtse on this bul .
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8 tr H . _YTiLtonoHBi laid the bill would iHvolve tha oompulsory eduoatlon ef the poorer class _ of this conntry . It _wae elw objeotlonable ai Increasing _parooblal burdens , already too heavy . As the law stood children wera batter educated in workhouses than the chlldrtn of the poorer class of mechanics ; snd the establishment of _distrl . t- of fifteen _mllea radius would hove tho effect of separating the children from the parents . He doo : _ e _ ly objected to the mode of meeting tho cos t of these new establishments—namely , out ef the poor-rate Mr Bnu-i said the hon . gentleman mi under some misapprehensions ae to the provisions of tbe bill which he wbb glad to bave thiB opportunity of removing . At this period ofthe session he should not have ventured to bring forward any measure which weuld really increase the pressure of tte poor-rates . It would , la
faetdimi-, nish that burden , by producing a wise and economical expenditure of money . There was nothing whatever in the bill to compel any _inoreaeed expenditur ' . By Iho aot of 184 . children in woik _. _ouaes were taken from their parents and placed under proper oare . He had no fear of their being over-educated ; but the legislature was bound to toke care that they received eome education otherwise a constant succession of paupers waa growing up ; for those whe had none of the attractions or aesoclatlonB of home to deter them from the workhouse were toe apt to return thera . It waa obvious that the expense of education was greatly Increased b y having a schoolmaster and schoolmistress in every workhouse and tbis bill provided that four unions mi ght be formed into a district , to the _ecbool of which the whole of the
children in those _uniona would be sent , and tho _commlsslo . rs might form such districts , but they could do nothing more ; the erection of the _aohool and overy ether outlay would havo to be determined on by the guardians , Ths aot of 1844 hod been rendered inoperative , both in London and in the country , by tholimitatlona oftho dlstileta In the country to fifteen miles , and by the limitation efthe cost te one-fifth of the annual outlay of the union in London . The total number of children in the workhouses was 51 , 237 , of whom not more than 11050 were with thoir parents ; so , that , under any _circumatanoeg , the evils of separation eould not be great . Many unions _iDHampshiro ond Berkshire were prevented from establishing schools by the limitation he had referred te . The workhouses were greatly overcrowdedan evil of moat serious magnitude ; but , if schools were provid A , the woi k ' _leusea would be sufficient for the adult p _. upers . But the main ground on whioh he proposod this bill wbb the welfare of the ohildren _thomselvcB .
As tbe law stood they were placed In wards apart from their parents who bad no control over them . Constant communication between the children and th « adult paupers wbb absolutely unavoidable , and aotb ' ng couM bo more demoralising , The girls , iu particular , by their intercourse with the women paupers , wi rs exposed to almost certain corruption , In the union of Penzance , In Cornwall , the least pauperised district south of the Trent , the average rates were lOd . in the pound ; in tho sdj lining union of Falmouth , they were 2 a . 3 d ., In tne former union thtre was no Bepaiato establishment for the children ; and the girls , as sson as they reached Che age of sixteen , and , were admitted to the women ' s ward , invariably turned out ill , and their history was most deplorable . The Falmouth union had a separate _sch . ol ; and the _rs . _ults to _thejavenllo paupers were most beneficial . The parish of Lambeth had also a separate establishment for their pauper children at Norwood ; and the results had been most favourable . It was
desirable tbat the pauper children should rat _. er be taught todouBeful work than to Bp _ d much of thiir time in what was usually called book-learning . ( Hear , hear . ) B _. t Instructions io useful arts could only be given whero large numbers of children were brought together . At Norwood some were taught gardening , somo agricultural cccupatlons , some tailoring , some _ehoemaking , and other useful trades , By enabling unionB to combine for thiB purpose great good would bo effected ; and if the limitations were removed the schools would only be es . _tabllihed where tbe expense might properly be incurred ; and the results to the children themselves , in rescuing them from vice , aad putting them in possession of useful knowledge , would be moat valuable .
Sir W . _JoLipfE admitting tbe _kindnesB and benevolence wbich had dictated this measure , disapproved of the means by which it was proposed to be carried out . A much greater benefit would be the removal of the women ' s words In _workbouseB _, which might be ( ff _.-oted nt considerably less expense , Their disorder and insubordination rendered a stricter discipline necessary —they corrupted tbe children and rendered the old paupers _miserable ; and all those evils might bo avoided by providing separate wards for the women , some of whom might , with great advantage , be sent to some of our colonies . ( Hear , hear . )
Mr Hbhlet believed tbat the bill dealt with a much larger subject than was generally supposed . The old law only applied to a very limited class of children ; the present bill might be construed to include all . The right hon . gentleman's speeoh was the moat perfect condemnation of our workhouse system ; for he admitted that a child could not be placed in a workhouse without being exposed to almost certain contamination _ d ruin . ( Hear . ) Cases had heen cited of successful union schools ; why , then , waB not that system carried outthe excellence of which he believed to consist In a small
number of children only being confided to one _euptrin . tendenee ? He doubted whether in very large schools , auch as this bill would _aatherie _., the same success would follow . The Norwood school had been referred to ; bnt there the children were at no great distance from their friends . Another objection to the bill was , tbat it mad . no provision for the religious instruction of the children ; also , that tbe children would be separated from thefr parents . It waa true tbey were so at preaent ; but in cases of sickness , tbe mother , who was at hand , Instantly became tho nurse of tbe child . Wbat was proposed to be done with a casual pauper , who entered the workhouse with five or six children ! Wore they suddenly to be separated from their parents , and flont to a dlstanoe of fifteen or twenty miles ? With ao large a queation it was impossible to deal satisfactorily in the present session ; be hoped therefore tbat the bill would be withdrawn ,
Tlscount Ebbingtoh aaid the expense likely to be incurred under thiB bill appeared to excite great alarm ; but were hon . gentlemen opposite aware of the great expense incurred at present In classification , and in the constant alterations required in workhouses for this purpose f Every week plans were sent up from the country tor the approval of the poor-law beard , relating to alterations which might be dispensed with if the children were removed from the _rrorkhouses . The expense of providing fever wards was also great . It was obvlcas that , by a combination of unions , the necessary accommodation for the children might be provided more cheaply . Al ! u ° ion had been tnaio to the necessity of separate words for able-bodied women . In many _workhouses there were already separate wards for able-bodied women of goed and bad character . Aa experience o ' many years aa vice-chairman of a board of guardians ,
led him to tbe conclusion that tho intercourse , oven incidental , between the children and adult pauper , waa degrading and contaminating . In few of the work . houseB had the children any opportunity of acquiring practical Instruction or learning househeld work ; hence the difficulty of obtaining situations for tbem out of the workhouse , an . the consequence was they soon returned . The evil of contamination was not oae that had arisen under tbe new law ; it was well kno _^ n that many of tbe workhouses uader the old law were schools of vloe and sinks of Iniquity , and the new law had confessedl y introduced great improvement . He denied that schools were better managed where the number of children was small ; their dlff . rent ages offered obstacles to classification , whioh was much easier in large sohools like those of Norwood , Limehouso , or those oonaeoted with tho hospital at Greenwich .
After eome further conversation the commutes waa postponed till Thursday . The sitting of the house was suspended at a quarter-past thrso till five o ' olock , when Lord Johh Russell moved the suspension of the standing orders with regard to the Wednesday sittings with a view to the house , for the remainder of tho session , meeting ou Wednesdays at twelve o ' clock , and Bitting from tbat hour till three o ' clock , tho sitting to be then suspended , till five , at whioh hour the house should reassemble for tbe purpose of going into Committee ef Supply . Colonel _Sibthosp , amid the general sympathy of the bouse , Btood up for the old and lnudable practloe of making _Tfednesdoy a _roguiar holyday , and protested Bgainst tho innovation of _ma-lnj It a da J of hard work , by taking the estimates upon it ,
Mr _BaoTHEETou observed , that the _Wodnesday ' _e sitting at _twelva o ' clock had worked well , and that a groat deal of business had been got through . He hoprd tbat It was aot the Intention of government by this motion to get rid of the morning altltap on _Wednoadaya in future sessions . Ho endeavoured to show that the present practice was much better than the laudable practice alluded to by Colonel Slbthorp . in twelve Wednesdays under that old Bjgtem , ao dear to tho old m . _mbarB of the house , the house had only _satthirty . flve hours ; In twelve Wednead . a under the preaent _ayatem It had ' aat _seventy-twa hours ; An hoa . member BBked , amid loud cheers , how much pr _. ctloal business had been performed in tbat time \ ( Cheers , and cries of 'None ! ' )
Mr Bkothe & toh admitted that there had been a great deal of talk and very little work in those seventy-two hours , and he was aowy that members Indulged In suoh long speeches whioh retarded public businoss very much . Lord John _RnsBBtii observed , that his motion had referenee only to the remainder of ths present session . Tb . 3 motion was agreed to . Mr lUrH-EL then moved for leave to bring in a bill to exempt from the legacy duties all charitable bequests , not to private lndiv . _ u . l 8 , but to publio bodies . The _Cu _. hcelloe of the _ExcaxQU-a appreciated the motives whtoh had induced the hon , gentleman to submit his motion to tho house , but declined assenting to it , for the stereotyped reason of the present state of tbe _flainces . _Laave was ultimately given to bring in the bill , on the distinct understanding that the government did cot thereby pledge itself to its prinoiple .
The Ballot —Mr H , _Bkskble _. rose to movo , ' That it ia expedient in the election for members to serve in p irl ' _ament that the votes of the electors bo taken by way of Ballot . ' He observed that , after the able manner In which the ballot had been advocated by Mr Qrote and othors , he might perhaps be accused of vanity and presumption In meddling with so Important a aubjeet , of which it might truly be said , in the language of Cicero - __ . ' TdbtKa . nMex tacitce _liotrtotis _, ' But tbe ballot w at
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one of that clasi of question , whieh had always sueooeded more by the _foros of their own merits than by thf ability of their advocates ; and on this ground he trusted for the house ' s Indulgence for a few momenta while he trespassed en thetr attention . Since the passing ef the Reform Bill , eaoh bad been the onward maroh of public opinion that the ballot seemed onl y a very minor question , Frem recent concessions made to free trade by the leaders on both sides ofthe house , he was not without hopes of seeing them como forward aa the advocates of this question . The ballot had been already _atBnned by thia house in 1810 , but had been rejected by the upper houBe . Assuming that the merits of the ballot w _. r ~ fully known to tho country at large , he would ad . dross himself to aome of tho more prominent _objsotions . It was said tbat secret voting would be an innovation on
the present electoral system ; that It would not prevent bribery , If it prevented intimidation ; that the ballot box would not oeouro _sooreay _; that it was un-English , and calculated to produce Immorality , lying , and deceit _. First , as to its being an innovation , he denied that such was ibe caae . Tho franchise was originally uncontrolled ; but persona of influence gradually undertook the control of the opinions ef those beneath tbem , and tbeu bribery and corruption crept la . The ballot was a most _conservative measure , as tending to preteot the franahtoe , and convert It from a mere no-minis _umoro , a mockery , a delusion , into a real and substantial r ' ght . At present , the franchlee kept tbe word ef promise te
iho ear aud broke it to the hope . The arguments by which it was contended that the ballot would not prevent bribery were very sophistical . Would any one purohaBe good ? , without the certainty that tbey would be delivered ! Look at Great Yarmouth—see tbo agents tbere with bowls of sovereigns beforo thera ; tbe voter entering at one door , reeolving his bribe , and going out at the other door to vote ae he was expected to do . But would any one invest a sum of money—would the Duke of Richmond send down Lord A . Lennox—or would the monster speculator , Mr Attwood himself , undertake iuoh a traffic if there wbb no certainty of the result _behsg obtain . d ? He eould not believe that __ would be the
oase , Even if the evil were not cured Sn small constituencies , the good effects . In large boroughs and counties , by the ballot , would bo a sufficient counterbalance . ( Hear . ) Tho small boroughs would not be n ? a worse state than they now were , and public opinion might operate beneficially upon them , Ho could not believe that the ballot box would fall to ensure _seoresy . America bad been referred to , but in America there WBB no reason 'for concealment , for property was so generally diffused , and tyranny was eearco . In America they had the ballot , and needed It not . Here we needed it but had it not . In answer to the allegation that the ballot wns un . English , he would refer to tbo practice of tbe clubs , where were assembled valour , learning , and wealth . These all sought protection —from what ? Perhaps from _lll-wlll , intimidation , or
tyranny . No one would _occubo these men , members of parliament , and others oi unm . _nlinea _* . But tbey _anught protection from the bully , from the Sir Lucius O _' _Trigeer of society , who if excluded from a club , would consider It ' a very pretty quarrel aa ft stood . ' ( Hear , hear . ) But was there not a bully ofpolltloB , as well as of society ? Undoubtedly : and be eechef ed equal arms , and sought to wound In the dark . If ( he victim was a tradesman , his credit and custom were assailed ; if a tenant , let him look for ejectment if a servant , for hia discharge , ( Hear , hear , ) He accused not bon , gentlemen of _uumanlinsis because tbey adopted the ballot : but he asked them to eX'oad the same protection to others . It waa eaid by tha opponents of the ballot that the statements of ths deplorable _dogradatien of constituencies were exaggerated , No one would
believe this who had read the evidence before tbe com . mittee of 1835 , Before the committee of 1 S 35 , Mr A , Cockburn stated that the only method of detecting bribery , mutually agreed upon , was by making it uncertain whether the agreement would be catrledout . A number of witnesses connected with _WcBtminater stated tbat much i . fit _jeni o was exercised by tbe government officers , and by persons of wealth ; so that tbe tradesmen were much more Influenced than those In a email borough would be b y direct bribes . Out of 13 , 000 registered electors in Westminster , only 1 , 500 bad voted at tbe preceding election ; and a great number of others avoided being placed on the register . Such was the character of the ehction in Westminster in 1837 . In 1811 the election at Westminster was of a atrong _poll-icalchwacter _. _as hen , members would , no doubt , remember : it waa when the
question of free trade _flauriahed luxuriantly ; th Protectloulsts worked heaven and earth to return a member to support tho right hon . baronet the member for Tamworth , who at that time was the champion of protection . ( Alaugh . ) Extraordinary cxertiooa were made by the aristocracy to support C-ptuin Ron , The gallant gentleman ' s cauae waa especially favoured by the ladies , of whom large bodies turned out ( laughter ) and canvassed In his behalf with as much earnestness and vehemence aa any paid canvassers could bave done , He would select two cases out of innumerable ones wbicb bad come to bia knowledge and the authenticity of which be could himself attest . He should state tbem just as they had been d < tailed to him by tbe tradesmen themselves . Tho first case waa that of a man at the west end of the town , wbo had very strong
opinions on the subject of free trad .. He had been all hia life a Liberal , and waa anxious to vote for the honourable and gallant gentleman opposite ( Sir De L . Erane ) , In the course ofthe day before tbe election , _alx carriages _ . w up to his door , eaoh bearing a coronet on tho panels . The fair occupants of these carriages entered tbe tradesman ' s shop , and there was no cojoling or threat to which they had cot recourse , in order to extract from bim a promise tbat be would vote for Captain Bous . In a word , tbey worried the _unfortunate m _ to that extent not only by menaoing to withdraw their own custom , but by threatening to denounce bim to otherB of their acquaintance who would do the aame , that although he could not be intimidated to vote against hia conscience he was indaced to promise not to vote at all . ( Hear , hear . ) He ( Mr Berkeley ) had the cariosity to call the
following year on that man to ask him whether he had succeeded in pleasing his customers , but he assured him that he had net , ( Laughter , ) Of tbe six families represented by the a ! x coronete , four with all their connexions , never set foot again within his threshold becauBO he had refused to vote . ( Heai , hear . ) The man , who was a moat respectable trader , had _requested that hia name should not be mentioned in the house , but he ( Mr Btr . ley ) would tako any member aside and satisfy him as to tho perfect authenticity of the statement . Thc tradesman estimated the Iosb to which be waa subjected by that scandalous exercise of tyranny as amounting on the whole to not leas than £ G 0 per annum . ( Hear , hear , ) Tbe case was certainly one to point a moral , if not to adorn a tale . ( Laughter . ) But the beauty of it was that a few months aftor Captain Rous turned round ,
followed hia leaders , and , throwing completely over _, board the persons who Buffered all that wear and tear of conscience in his service , voted for free-trade . ( Laughter . ) How well mig ht the ladies who reerced tho unhappy tradesmen exclaim , ' What shadows we are —what shadows we pursue ! " ( Loud laughter . ) The other case to which he wished to call attention was tbat of an unhappy publieau . ( L _. ughter , ) HU case had a double aspect . It exemplifie _. evil effects as well of do . mocratic as of aristocratic _interference . Here the ariatocraoy and the democracy were both united in doing the wrong thing , The publican waa waited upon by a lady of high rank , who , having oalled at bis houso and sent for bim to her carriage , made a strange overture to him . 'You servo my house with beer , ' she Bald . The publican replied in the affirmative . ' I _naderataad tbat cay
servants also use your house . ' The publican assented . ' Well , then , ' continued the lady , ' I have called upon yon to inform you that if you don't vote as I wish , not only shall you lose my custom , but any servant of mine who hereafter sets bis foot wilbin your door I shall immodi-tely discharge—vote as I wiBh , and you shall alwaya hove our custom , and I will see what I can do for your son in the Custom House . ' ( _Laughter . ) Frightened b y the threat , or allured by the promise , the publican got up very earl ; In the morning and voted for Captain Rous , but he did not gain much by it cither on tbe score of p _oace of mind or in any other sense . It eo happened that there were twelve or thirteen _tailora who hold their Saturday nightorgiesat his house . ( Laughter . ) Tbey wer . very formidable tailors , quite ofthe Cuffay echool . ( Laughter . ) Tremendous fellows . ( L . tighter . ) One of them being
very tnihu . _luBtio in tho oau _. _o , wont to tbo poll at a very early hour , and having discovered that his host bad voted for Ciptain R . _us , he lost no time in communicating the fact to his comrades . The upshot waa , that on the next Saturday night tbey called for tbeir bill , abused the unfortunate man in round set termB , told him tbat he was not only a publican but a planer—( laughter)—aud gave him to understand tbat they would drink no mora of hig b . er , but denounoo him to the whole trade . ( _Laughur . ) These two o _ 838 he had selected from fifty or sixty which had come to his _knowledge . He seriously put it to the house whether it was to be tolerated that sach a Btate of things should continue . Wero they not bound in justice and in meroy to give to tbe victims of auch tyranny tho protection of secret
voting . ( Hear , hear , ) In 1847 he wbb chairman of a cotnmltteo appoin ted to carry out the election of ihe aoblo lord now at the head of the government aud other L'boral members . Tho committee aet at the west-end of the town , and tbe object was to enlist the suffrages of west end tradesmen who had votes in the city . The result of his experience on that committee , was the _canviotion that tbe evils _oompl _. lned ao much of in 1835 . existed in an aggravated form in 1817 , nnd that tbo _ina-. _ncea were numerous , of trad-Bmen disfranchising themselves , rather than be subjected to the terrors and _horroraofthe worrying Bystem . ( Hear , hear . ) A common reply te thane who _ashed a trade unan for his vote was , ' Thank Go I , I have no vote ; when I wae a younger man I had ono , but I have _suffered too muoh from the exercise of It
of late , and I bave become a wiser man—I will ntver vote again , ' In nine _casea out oi ten , they added t lis saving clause , ' unless you get the ballet for us , ' ( Hear , hear . ) The _eameayatam prevailed all over the country . In Ireland , priests and landlords seemed to vie with each other 11 Ini imld-lion . The _evidenca of 1835 contain- A some rematkable disclosures as to the conduct of two _magistrates In Tipperary , who , while strongly denouncing the Intimidation of the _prleBts , maintained that their own < ras perfectly allowable . One of these , Mr Wilcox , said he thonght the landlord had a legitimate right to the votes of blB _tenanta . ( Laughter . ) Col . Bruen roundly maintained the right of laadlord _. jto discharge _servants or eject _tenauto for not voting _hb they wished , mentioning instances where he had i xaroiied that _power' for punish . Ing the _ ef . ao - . ors , ' ( Lsughter . ) Two clergymen de-
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scribed the disastrous effect ! whioh open voting _prodnoeom tho tenantry , and stated that tho ballot was _absolu ely neoeasory . The same itate of things had prevailed in 1837 , 1841 , and 1847 . A s tronger case ef landlord Intl . { nidation conld not be conceived tban that which w » b proved beforo the late Kin . ale _eleotioa committee . The last objection was , that the ballot waa productive of lying and deceit . The right hon . member for _Northampton ( Mr V , Smith ) had said the ballot wouW convert the habits of the electora Into one oontinued lie . Surely , then , there waa something In the present Bystem whioh enconraged truth . So far from thia , he maintained that the existing electoral system was one vast lie , and might beeummedup in that comprehensive term 'humbug . ' ( Laughter . ) Standing orders wtre passed every- _eea . ioD against the interference of peera at elections ; but t _
most extraordinary illustration of the way in whicb these orders wero attended to was furnished by MrDodd , in bis ' Parliamentary Companion , ' He gave , in a tabular and alphabetical form , the list of boroughs la wbicH peers exernised influence in the return of ihe membersin all no fewer than 62 , In England and Wales , containing . 3 900 inhabitant ., and returu ' ng 33 _mtrnibera . Ol these fifty-seven ware returned by the direot influence of the aristocracy . In all there wera forty-nine peera and twenty-five wealthy commoners who exorcised a direct influence In the return of _mombers of parliament . ( Hear , hear . ) In the face of auch a statement aa that what a farce were the sessional orders ! ( Hear , hear . ) In putting them forth they could _acarculy be supposed te have any other intention but that of damning tbeir own character for sincerity , and they could cot eurely free
themselves from the oharge of deceit . But how well did the candidate follow the example thus aet him hy that house ! The not unfnqutnt custom was for a candidate to go down to some borough at a general eleotioa , and fully _impresaed with the true character of these sessional orders , to publish among hiB constituent ) bis manifesto , telling them that they are ' free and inde pendent electora , tbat Englishmen never would consent to be slaves , ' and while at the same time he was issuing thia address , he and his agents were putting in force every screw and artifice known in electioneering contests to wring and extort from fiem their promises in his favour ; and when he had _at length screwed them Into returning him by means of these abominable appliances , the caodi . dato would turn round and coolly tell bis constituencythose bought and intimidated unfortunates—that ho was
the moBt honoured man ia the world , In being elected by their free and unbiassed suffrage ., ( Hear , hear , and laughter . ) Then , having been thus returned to that heuee , whenever such a queation aa the ballot was brought forward , he ( Mr Berkeley ) had alwaya observed tbat suoh candidates were ever foremost to enact the manly British lion , and indignantly protested that tbey could not support the ballot—It was against their con . science to do so—they were virtuously shocked at the bare idea of the lying and deceit to which tbey believed it would inevitabl y lead . ( Hear , and laughter . ) He did not hope for the support of the Cbartists , whom he had alwaya looked upon as the propsgandlBts of vio . _lenoa , but ho hop .: d for success from the growing Influence of enlightened public opinioa . He implored the ho _. _se to emancipate the constituencies who bad sent tbem there , aad who , by their reoeat conduct in most excited times , had deserved so well at their hands . ( Hear , hear . ) Give the people the ballot , aDd they would have in their gratitude the best security for the
| stability and security of the national inatitutions . ( Bear , hear . ) Colonel Tbokp . on , in supporting the motion wished to call the attention of the house to one objection which had been urged against the ballet . It had frequently been urged that the exercise ofthe franchise was a duty , end should be performed openly ; but it should be romembered that the membera of a court-martial , assembled as they were to perform most solemn duties , yet were bound by a solemn oath equivalent to the _secresj of the ballot , not to disclose the votes or opinions of any member of tbe court , Wby Bhould not the poor man have the aame protection ! ( Hear , hear , ) He ( Col , Thompson ) believed in his heart that there was no hos tiltty on the part of the people to the hereditary aiist . cracy of the country , and that therefore ' there was no reason for _keeping from tbem a concession whicb waa es _. entfal to the freer exercise of their moat sacred privlligea . With these few observations he begged to se _cond the motion .
Mr P . Howahd opposed tho motion . Colonel Sibtbobp did not Intend to vote en thia mo tion either one way or tho other , but should leave Lord J . Russell to settle his dispute with hit mutinous troops aa he beat coulJ . Ho had never advocated , and he never wonld advocate , tbe ballot _. Lord Dudley Stcabt supported the motion . Mr TTbqchabt , as the representative of the Chartists and Radicals , [ the bon , member must be labouring under a delusion of an extraordinary character , the Chartists know little of him , and that little is not of a ktn _4 to induce them to make him their representative , ]
wished to state why those parlies had lost tbeir eoifi . dence in abstract terms and meaningless reforms , lit protested ugainst the time of the house being taker up with such Idle motions . ( Ironical cheers . ) He beld to tho old fashioned opinion that tbe ballot was an _uu-Eoglish practice . He had been eent to that hoa » e to control the government , to watch the conduct of public men , and to use his best exertion , to procaro a reduction efthe public _expenditure . He called on bon , members _opposito to follow the same course , as one more calculated to serve their country than the proposal of sudden and organic changes ia its institutions ,
Lord J . RuasBLL in opposing tbe motion , said that he could only rep : at the aame aru ; ments which he had employed on former occasions wben he had been compelled to oppose similar propositions . Publicity was the tuI - of eur constitution , and ' secrecy was the exceptien from it . Our courts of justice were open , and ao ware the discussions of both Houses of Parliament , The votes of every member of parliament were known and published to the country . And so with other practices in our general , political , and social system . This proposal , therefore , was adverse to tbe whole spirit of our institutions _. The hon . gentleman proposes no alteration in the number of electora . He still leaves ub open to tbat charge which waa made by the honourable gentleman who ia sitting near him ( Mr Hume , as was understood ) , that only one in seven of tbe male per .
_sonB of adult age were to have the right of voting . In this one tn seven he proposes to leave the power of electing membera of parliament , uncontrolled by any exercise of public opinion , and completely concealed _. Therefore _oue . aeventh ofthe male adults of this kingdom are to have what the _conatltutlsn of Venice gave to the inquisitors of that Btate , a secret and despotic power over all the affairs of this kingdom . Sir , in the case of a democratic constitution I could well understand _BBy one saying , ' tbe sovereignty is placed in numbers . There are so many millions of adult males in this country , it is for them to decide ; they have nothing to do but to aey which party haa the _majority , and if they _ohoose to exercise tbeir powers secretly they Bhould be allowed to do so . ' But such is not the nature of your present electoral constitution _.
The very fault which the hon . member for _Montroac has attributsd to the electoral body is , tbat it is a soke * _, body . It is only a portion of the people of this country who have the elective franchise , and , therefore , tho franchise it a trast _reposod in them which they are to exercise for the benefit of the whole community . Well , then , the question Ib new , how can they beat _exerciBe it ? How can they exercise it in the manner moat likely to be conducive to the good of the community I I say that they will exercise ie best if they give their votes publicly—if every man is obliged to say , 'I give my vote for such a person , ' and knows that he must abide by his rote . He
He did not deny but that bath intimidation and corruption _ _ar __ ct-ris _ d , to some extent , our electoral system . These were defects iu that system ; but it did not follow that , on account ofsome abuses , they should surrender a great principle , and one which he considered a vital and an essential principle ofthe constitution . Independently of these considerations , he did not believe that the supporters of the ballot would achieve their object , if the ballot were aecured to them . Should the motion be adopted , and the honourable gentleman follow it up by a bill , he would _opposo that bill ) convinced that thc object sought by it would not be attained if it were carried _, and that in addition to not producing any good , it would be productive of much mischief .
Mr Codden deUvered a lengthy speech in support of the motion . Mr _Hsnlkt opposed the motion . Mr Mustz denounced the speech of Lord J . RusseU as a mass of sophistical twaddle , delivered for the mere p urpose of getting rid of this _question . He admitted that , if the ballot could not be made secret , it would be of little use ; but he was convinced that it could be made secret , and , if so , it must bo productive of peaco and advantage to all classes . Mr Wood and Mr Villiebs supported , and Mr Napish opposed the motion . Mr _Bea _ .-iEV replied , and tho house divided , when the numbers for the motion were—Ayes SS Noes 81 Majority in its favour .. .. s
The new opposition , surprised at its own sue . ess , received the annunciation of the numbers with a double volley of very loud cheers . The house immediately afterwards adjourned at twelve o'clock .
WEDNESDAY , _AuQOST . th . HO _ E OF COMMONS . —The house met at twelve o ' clock . The Bankruptcy Bill was read a second time , as was also the Provident Asaooiation Fraud Prevention Bill , The report on the Stack in Trade Exemption Bill was then brought up and received . The Turnpike Acts Contiuuance Bill , the Court of _Justiciary f ScotlandJ Bill , the Criminal Law Adminiatra . tion Amendment Bill , the Money Order Department ( "Post .
office ) BiU , and the Fisheries ( "Ireland . ) Bill , went severally through committee . The Churches Bill , tha Proclamation of Fines ( Com t of Common Pleas J Bill , and the Poor Law Uuion Charges ( No . 1 ) Bill were severally read a third time and passed . The order of the day for tbe second reading of the Remedies against the Hundred Bill was read and discharged , on the motion of Sir William Clay ; it being understood that the present law on tbo subject was net likel y to work any hardshi p before the government intro . duced a measure to obviate the Inconvenience that had been complained ot ;
At three o ' clock the sitting waB suspended till five . At that hour the house reassembled . Mr _H . Bekk-lkt gavo notice that he would early next session , movo for leave to bring in a bill for taking the votes at the election of members to serve In Parliament , by ballot . HsrEAL or thb Union . —Mr _Gbooan was _deairoue to know from the government what its opinion was with respect to the _asaartion of-many statemen , that there was no difference _betweea « Repeal of the Union between
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Wrie . Uin 8 Dd Ire , aDdand a _« _ion of _^ Lord Johh Russell replied , that an - _° whose operations were strictly confined to _' ? . cif , t _'on Parliament for a Repeal of the Union would hRi tion . r _petttiois with that prayer had been _«_ . _ _ ' _» _houae ; but any association for the Dur _ os , „ f « . th -e tbat object by other that comtitutional _ _ fn 0 / " _^ _tog doubtedly illegal . Means _* _as m NAvr Estimates . —The house then went ;„ _. mittee of Supply on the Navy Estimates Mr w Cotn _. serving , ib the course of a speech of details _* . _ ' _' o ! > _- nuo maltera Involved in the several votes _t _ i e Vatl - ferenceto the recommendations contained in « . lh _reofthe select committee on this head of e _ _ _-: r 8 Port the total reduction effected on the votes _ . „ _S ure ' at posed , would bo £ _ 08 >! 0 - the excess _rfi _ _S ! Blll , J _»** - fore for the present , e . . a 8 _conS J L _ > ¦ _«»* -. wouldonlybe £ 6 , 4 iS . _Th-fimv _otehavinebl the la 8 t tracteueoate
u ensuea _, involving the ivhnlo , r ' "" "p ro . ofthe country . The most noticeable n _ l „ , . _ Poli . _cuaslon was thc following portion of _Inri r i . ct di _^ speech m reply to Mr Cobden :-i think t _ _r-r D 8 SEL ' _- _' _s sent French government , bein g wiser than . __' . _P" . vernment of that country , should deem i _ r _ lat 8 go . duce very mucb tlieir naval expenses , _whiKP 61- to re . to have been extravagant of _Uto _yeiri , Tw _ m . to « a tf OOd occasion for us to carry into effect r » r furnis h which would not otherwise be _advisab ' e _? i ? ° hment « cheers . ) I think that the committee which has i ! f _, aa < 1 has pointed out _severa' sources of expense whU el ' _- « be very well the _sutjccts of inquiry and of _ . __* . __ _^ ment in tho course of another year . I _nnifl ' _? mend . with an hon gentleman who said it was not _aWn _? . 8 _" ject the estimates to the consideration of \ ,. ?„ ° _** m _. ttee . ( Hear , hear ) I think it Would b , _«_ . "J * t sable and unusual-it would be ibirkin . _r tha ™ ad _* blhty of a government-to take that cra _?»_ ' p 0 lB ' _- 1828 Tr ' Ut , _\ _i a course was _""' takeVln'U . j 1828 , I re _.-ret also that we did not take t _ . 3 _^ I _K i 83 o , and I tbink the hon . member fo . Mon ° ur 89 * _K _^ s _»^^ iiuu uicuUOenaDle
..... — the governmenr _-. _nrf ti _t crT departments , to _reconsider e * _ n . ~ _3 h _*! . * P ° _Uc incurred , and to lake a bX „ h h hej ,, la J « e maByofthedeta _ . fth : _U exnenditnrr _^ T I * " perfectly agree , also that tK i _ _, n _ ' ear ' hoari ' f than for thegovernm . i _ Vf jirr . ms m' _* re foolish each other in _aEtin _^ 1 „ T * T tries t 0 vie with ( rufe _'_^ r l _^¦ _-SJ _^ : „ T _~ i rule , such a course is most unwise I dr . n _* t . _E * ? _iS stat _r _« " •««! _EVpSC * ffi united States of America . We are _naturallv _mni _ in volved , n all _those questions » hich concer , t e _^ ont _' neat _" of Europe ; but still , I think , the powers of Europe _S all do well if they modified their expenditure __ _ _T _mmntenanceof armaments . ( Loud cries of « llear t . . SSL ( ° »' mi ; mb _" 'hat it waa never ourw _ 'H ear hear . *• _S ° ™ . _¦" tof France- ( loud cries of alvdv ? ri time that
el „ n . _ oin _ 7 ' ? . _-V- _** aa ° has _^ d » in « , hemWti _„ n of __ , ™ _L _ _:: I think , that . t has been our desire to act X . „ __' cert , or « t an events on the best terms of international relation , with the government of so _poTCri _ a _« _r __ h . . ha _ " 5 _T ' _( Kear . a , cheers * ) I am $ 5 toft _ _£ i . « pre , cl _^ Kovcrnmcntof France duclaL _ o , i _2 _Jf _ " t _T' ° _,, P ™ ' , ° f ambition _wSichled France un der the Republic and under tie Empire , at first to bru " _lurnt conquests and _a'tenvards to as signal _ 5 im _* s , at = _^ _tS : a _ f . r _= ___^;_^?_^ _-t £%£ wish is to the
preserve peace of Eu _, pe and hat if there is a desire to break the peace of _BiropfitexiBten 0 tl 0 FranC--butlli other quarters . _< _Hear hearT 7 cannot say that I think the state of Europe ' s at pre en so assured that any statesman eould confidently prelict for any number of years , the continuance of peace- but with reepect to the government of France , I believe _» they are animated by a sincere desire to preserve peace ( Hear , hear . ) I believe that the powerful government of Russia is animated bythe same desire- ( hear hear ] aud , England , France , and _Russia all concurrin „ in a des . re to maintain the peace of Europe , there is not the least probabUity of that peace being disturbed , f Hear hear , ' and cheers . ) '
Mr Di 8 B __ z considered Mr Cobden the professor of a system of philosophy which waa not founded on faet . Wara , so far from being originated by monarchs or ca ' _bineta , were caused by popular passions and prejudices Several votes were agreed to , and at one o ' clock the house adjourned .
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( Fromthe _ffatetteof Tuesday , Augusts . ) BANKRUPTCY ANNULLED . Josiah John Cra _. k , of Lowestoft , Suffolk , _linendraper ,. BANKRUPTS John Gatrell , Lymington , upholsterer—Joseph Hub . bard , Dorking , linen draper—George Webster , 13 Hedge row , Islington , licensed victualler—Thomas Jame ' _s Champion , Tunbridgf . wells , bootmaker-James Steire , Guildford , watchmaker—Joseph Feace Shuttleworth , _, Birmingham , mathematical instrument maker—Thomas Wakefield , Lenton , merchant—James Crescent Shaw Bristol , carrier-David Turner , Sheffield , innkeeperdiaries Lone _Sivainson and John > 'ircbwood , Mancbes . ter , manufacturers—Thomas Gillespie Ferguson , Henry Tayler , and George Frederick Manl _ , Manchester , com . mission merchants . _DECLARATION OF _INSOLVESGY . Samuel Glover , " ., Park-street , Giosvenor . square builder .
INSOLVENT PETITIONERS . E A 9 heroft , Kirkdale , Lancashire , merchant ' s clerk—E Evans , Toxteth-patk , Lancashire , joiner—J Fittall _, Ewell , Kent , butcher—P H Ireland , Muckleton , Shropshire , farmer— W Juliey , Claines , Worcestershire , cattle dealer—T M'Kinley , Liverpool , lodging-housekeeper—S Polnton , Oillowheath , Staffoi dshire , _wheelwright—J Rowley , Black-park , Denbighshire , victualler—J Snape _, Liverpool , licensed brewer—J Wanstall , Dovtr , journev . man carpenter—J Warner , _Henley-upon-Thames , white . smith—H Woodall , Scarborough , Yorkshire , painter .
SCOTCH SEQUESTRATIONS . Edgley , Emmerson , and Co ., Glasgow , manufacturers-Edward Braugbton , Edinburgh , boarding school keeper —Thomas Henderson _Setoa , Glasgow , tavern keener-Robert Johnston , Aberdeen , shipowner — Neil Blair , Paisley , calico printer—William Frier , Edinburgh , corn merchant—John Cochran and Co ., Glasgow , wholesale tea merchants—William Shackleton , Aberdeen , wool . stapler—Thomas Charles Burns , Avondale , writer to the signet .
The Whigs—There Is A Certain Class Of Tr...
The Whigs—There is a certain class of transgressors who are never penitent but when they are in extremis , and who , upon the slightest relief frora the pressure which makes them amenable to law and reason , immediately relapse into their former misdeeds . Pharaoh is an ancient example of the character ; the Whigs are a modern one , though infinitely below , we need scarcely say , the autocrat of Egypt in point of general respectability . In former days , when their political opponents were in office , these patriotic statesmen reserved all their
virtuous indignation for the Government which thought coercion the proper way to deal with sedition ; whence il has been truly as well as wittily observed , how fortunate it was that Lord . John RusseU was seated on the Treasury bench in April last , because , had he not been there , he would undoubtedly have taken the chair 011 Kennington-common . Assailed , however , in the seat of power , the Whigs are as ready as any to show their teeth , and to bring in ' gagging * Acts and coercion Bills that mi g ht satisfy the dictatorial propensities of Cavaignae himself . —John Bull .
Retribution— Some ofthe jury who did their duty before God and man in convicting the traitor Mitchel , have been alread y ruined by the terrorists Times . A letter from Constantinople , the 19 th ult ., says - . ' Last Saturday the Sultan saw his famil y increased on one day , b y two sons , bom of different mothers , and to whom were given the nan _ 3 Mehmed-Froad ( Mahomet ' s heart ) , aud Ahmed-Kemail-Eldm ( perfection of religion . )" The Rising of the Millions . —The multitude are rising from the dust . Once we heard of the few , now of the many ; once of the prerogatives of a part , now of the rights of all . We are looking , as never
before , through the disguises , envelopments of ranks and classes , to the common nature which is below thera ; and are beginning to learn that every being who partakes of it has noble powers to cultivate , solemn duties to perform , inalienable rights to assert , a vast destiny to accomplish . The grand idea of humanity , of ttie importance of man as man , i _. spreading silently but surely . Not that the worth of the human being is at all understood as it should be but the truth is g limmering through the darkness . A faint consciousness of it has seized on the public mind . Even the most abject portions of society are visited by some dreams of a better
condition , for which they are designed , The grand doctrine , that every human being should have the means of self-culture , of progress in knowledge aud virtue , of health , comfort , and happiness , of exercising the powers aud affections of a man ; this is slowly taking its place as the hi ghest social truth . That the world was made for all , and _nat for the few ; that society is to care for all ; that no human being shall perish but through his own fault ; that the great end of government is to spread a shield over the ri ghts of all ; these propositions are growing into axioms and the spirit of them is coming forth in all the departments of _lifs . — Dr Channing .
Shell out , Ladies . —In an advertisement published at Vienna , by a committee of ladies appointed to raise subscriptions for a German fleet , all married ladies are requested to contribute for this purpose tbe money vhich , according to the adverti . ement , all wives are in the habit of secretly _reserviiia : for their own use from the allowances made them hy Iheir husbands for housekeeping .
Birth . On Saturday Last, August 5th, Wa...
BIRTH . On Saturday last , August 5 th , was regis . ered by Mr Hutchinson , Eliza O'Connor Sholley Cook , the infant _diiuj-htar of J . Cook , bookseller and _newsagent , Upper Om ell-street , Ipswich .
Printed By Dougal M'Gowan, Of 1.6, Great Windmill'.Treet, Haymarket, In The City Of Wcstrnj- Stor, At Tht
Printed by DOUGAL M'GOWAN , of 1 . 6 , Great Windmill ' _. treet , Haymarket , in the City of _WcstrnJ- stor , at tht
Office, Iu The Same Street And Parish, F...
Office , iu the same Street and Parish , for thf . . Proprietor , FEARGUS O'CONNOR , Eaq _., M . P ., and publiBheby _Willum Hewitt , of no . 18 , Charles-street , Brax _» _don-atreet _, Walworth , in the pariah of St . Mary , Ne . _ingtoa , in the County of Surrey , at the Office , No . 16 , Great Windmill-street , Haymarket , in _ e . _CitvofWet' « minster . —Saturday August 12 tb ,. 8 i 8
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Northern Star (1837-1852), Aug. 12, 1848, page 8, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns3_12081848/page/8/
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