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      8 ^ The Northern Star. Februaby 6, 1847

      8 _^ THE NORTHERN STAR . Februaby 6 , 1847

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      Tn Tho House Of Lord*, On Monday Night, ...

      Tn tho House of Lord * , on Monday night , tbe Earl ol Mountcasbel in moving for certain returns connected with the Court of Chancery in Ireland , and which , he contended , wonld show the real state and value of pro . perty in tbat eountry , and stated , tbat from * rough calculation he had mad ; , he believed that the debts or Irish , property amounted to one hundred millions ster . ling , and that eight years' rental was due ou the _whole of the lands in that country . After some discussion , however , he consented to withdraw his motion for one set of returns , tho collection of which was impracticable , aud to postpone a second motion , to give an opportunity of ascertaining whether the returns could be made .

      IR 1 SE PAUPERS is LIVERPOOL . — Lord _Brouqhai , presented a petition from the authorities and a grea number of respectable inhabitants at Liverpool , com plaining of the inflar of Irish paupers into that seaport The petition elated that in fourteen days no fewer thai 11 . 1 0 * paupers came over from Ireland , ( being at th rate of 800 a-day , ) exclusive of Thursday last , when up muds of 1 , 100 were brought over in two steamers . Thej had reason to believe that thousands of persons were a tie present moment begg ing their way to the variou seaports of Ireland with the intention of seeking thei food in this country , and , if possible , in Liverpool . The , therefore prayed their lordships to interfere for their re lief , and expressed a hope that Pailiament would no separate without passing a law by wbich the people o Ireland , as well as the people of England , should b _-comnelle ! to support their own poor . His lordship _weuh

      not express any opinion then as to a Poor L 3 ir , bu something mnst be done to remedy tbe serious grievanc complained of by the people ef Liverpool . He was a wan the public press contended tbat the land of Irelaui ought to be taxed for the support of tbe Irish poor but that would be only taxing the landlords twice over because the mortgagee would call in his mortgage . Sue ! a proposition was a specie * , of cheap humanity that re minded bim of a saying of Lord Elibank _' s , that theri were two things in which most people were exceeding * ; generous—other people's money aad their own advice ( A laugh . ) These persons were proclaiming the righ of the poor to be fed , but he denied the right of the pooi man to bo fed , unless by hit own labour . The Govern _, ment were not bound to feed the poor , or even to fin ' them work . ( Hear , hear . ) The only duty ofthe Govern _, meat in that behalf was to remove aU obstacles in thi

      way of the people finding work for tbeauelves . The _JliKQtJisof _Westxiatb denied that tbegrievance _complained could be traced to the Irish Landlords as the petitioners had attempted to dc * . It did not lie at their door , bnt at the door of those laws which were directed against tl . e management of their estates , and from which they could not escape . There wat also tbe greatest difficulty in putting the law ia force for the ejection of tenants at will . f How the granting of greater facilities to the land _, lords for driving the people of Ireland from their holding * would lessen the immigration to Liverpool , or what connection there was between the two ideas , is not very [ clear to us . ) j

      No other business being before the home , their Lordships , after a short sitting , adjourned _, i In the House of Commons , after the usual _questions , I notices of motion * , tc , had been disposed of . the house , on the motion of Lord 3 . Russell , took up the order of the dav for the second reading of the 1 LABOCJU . VG POOR ( IRELAND ) BILL , —Mr . _Wttmus moved , as an amendment , " That the second read- j ing , and all the other stages iu this house , of the Poor . Belief ( Irelaud ) BUI , shall have precedence of the said j Labouring Poor ( Ireland ) Bitl . " He propo « ed this amend- ' ment because he was convinced that the Poor Relief ( Ireland ) Bill was the means by which the present calamities of Ireland would be removed at the least expense , and the recurrence of similar calamities everted in future . The Destitute PersonB ( Irelaml ) Bill con tamed no .

      licit to the expense which might he incurred under it . lord John Russell said that seven millions would be ne-: cessary to meet tbe expenditure which he contemplated up to the first of August . But h _* ( Mr . Williams ) be-. lieved that when the lst of _Augu-: t arrived , his Lordship ' s eyes would be opened to the commencement of the end , and that he wonld then be _bringing in another bill for the removal of the still increasing ' evils of Ireland . He did not mean to express any approbation of the Poor I _Belief Bill now introduced ; on the contrary , he thought ] _itno improvement on tbe existing law . The hotueought , to pauie before It voted away public money as now pro- } posed . All tlieir past attempts to introduce Poor Laws in- j to _Ireland had proved inefficient . He aBked the govern- _, menthoiv long they were gong to pursue _thaMystemof one inefficient measure after another ! They had tried

      their first Poor Law Bill , and what had it done for the p . ople of Ireland ! The commissioners appointed to in- ' quire into the state of Ireland , with the view of making . out a case of necessity for a "Poor Law , had reported ' that , in 1835 , there were 1 , 151 , 000 agricultural labourers who only received from 3 s . to 2 s . 6-1 , _a-week wages , and that for thirty weeks out oi the _fifty-two in each year , one-half of those per * ons wera entirely out of employ- ' ment . Including their families , her * were 2 , 355 , 600 dependent os these miserable wages . And what provi- ' sion had Her Majesty's then Government—of which the ; present Government was _principally composed—made for ¦ these 2 , 355 , o 00 persons ! They had provided accommo- dation in workhouses for only 99 , 200 , so that there were

      more than 2 , 000 , 000 still left destitute . Lord 3 . Russell had related to the house , with proper feeling , the condition of the people of England as described in a work hy Sir Thomas More . Now , he ( Mr . Williams ) couaideted that extract as precisely describing the condition of Ireland at tho present time , and he regarded the state of things in England thee , and the state of things in Ireland now , as springing from precisely the same cause , namely , the oppression of the landed proprietors . After referring to the state of England just previous to the passing of the Poor Law Act of Elizabeth , and showing that not less than 70 , 000 persons had been convicted of crimes committed against persons and property iu tbe course « f two years , the hon . member remarked , that the landlords of thatperiod were forced to make due provision for the poor in order to the security of their life and property ; and no sooner was the Poor Law of Elizabeth put in ope . j ration than tranquillity was restored . Let the

      Government pursue the same conrse as regarded Ireland , and hehad no doubt that similar good consequences would follow . ( Hear , hear , ) He had heard Tarioui reasons given for the unhappy condition of Ireland—one of which j was , that owing to an inherent defect in the race to which thej belonged , the Irish were too lazy to work . Kow , he had seen the Irish in Canada and in the United States , where they had an open field for their labour , and had found them maintaining a perfect equality as to industry and love of personal comfort with the Gentians , Americans , and others by whom they were there surrounded , and all they wanted t » enable them to exhibit the same characteristics in their own country was fair play . Bat while they were kept on such miserable wages as 2 _s . or 2 s . 6 d . a-week , what could be expected from them * In conclusion , he recommended the Government to tax tbe mortgagees of Irish estates for their share of ths cost of supporting the poor .

      The amendment found no seconder , and the order of the day was read . On tha motion that the Labouring Poor Bill be read a second time , Mr . B . Osborne passed in review the measures adopted by the Government during the progress of the Irish dis . tress . He especially condemned the Labour Kate Act , as one the operation of which was to be seen is broken up roae _* t _& in an impoverished gentry , sod in the wasted _finances o ! " this country . He complained that Parlia . mint hud not been called together at an early period , and regretted that the opinion of the Lord-Lieutenant in _oth' -r respects had not been followed ; if it had , repro _* _. duct-ire works wonld hare been undertaken , and England would not have to pay the expenses that were to be cast on her . It was clear tbat on the 17 th of August

      last , the noble lord contemplated that half _. at least of the expense should bs borne by the finances of the country . It was not his intention to attack the noble lord on account of the defects of that measure ; August legislation was apt to be of a hasty character . When the charms of grouse _entered into competition witb the duties of statesmanship , there was little chance of a bill of that nature being properly considered . The unconstitutional nature of the provisions of the Labour Act reminded him of an anecdote of the Irish Parliament , where a fifty-miles road hill was smuggled through as a rider to a tobacco bill . The part of the noble lord ' s proposed measures which had reference to the reclamation of waste lands was Utopias . Tbe noble lord stated the quantity of waste land capable of improvement to be 1 , 600 , 000 acres ; Mr . Griffiths estimated it at 6 , 290 , 000 acres , of which

      3 , 755 , 000 acres were improvable , but of these 2 , 330 , 000 acres could only be made rough meadow , as pasture for sheep . On this subject they had some evidence ot which it was as well thc house should he in possession . The Government bad already _reclaimed some waste lands , and there was at the present time a considerable model farm upon land of that kind , called King _Will ' _amVtoivn Mr . Griffiths , in his report from this farm in I 83 S , says ' ' The cost ef reclaiming 'flow bog' is £ 9 . 9 _e . lOd . per acre ; the produce for four years is worth £ 24 . 3 s . 3 d . ; the expenditure for the same time is £ 25 . 12 s . 6 'd ., leaving a loss at the end of fear years of £ 1 . 9 s . Id . ( Hear , hear . ) The estimate for reclaiming 'compact bog' is £ 6 . 3 s . per acre , produce for four years £ 21 Ss . Sd . ; tbe expenditure for the same period £ . 22 5 s . _8-j . ; leaving a profit of £ . 1 17 s , 9 d . on reclaimed land of the best quality , " ( Hear . ) He was sure the House e , f Commons would look with a little caution before it voted a million of money for this rather Utopian scheme . ( Hear , hear . ) He had no objection to the principle of taking a man ' s

      land and improving it , if it could be proved that it was for the good of the commonwealth ; but ho had an objection to tbe peop le ot England paying all this money for a _icheme at best problematical . Mr . Griffiths in his report for 1844 , farther said ofthe model farm— " The crops of all kinds are nnusnally subject to the vicissitudes of the seasons ; bat it has been so tar able to keep its be id above water as to return a deficit in three yews oi £ . 23 lis . 9 | d . ( Hear , hear . ) The house ought to pause "before it engaged in such an undertaking , and what did the Government propose to do ? There were 4 , 600 , 000 acres of watte land : a grant of £ . 1 , 000 , 000 would be equal to 43 . per acre to reclaim land worth only 2 s . Cd . per acre . ( Hear , hear . ) What improvement could be effected by such a anm , which he supposed would inelude the expense of surveying hy the staff of the Board of Works , which in Ireland was very heavy ! He thought - this plan | the most complete bubble a Government had em brought before Parliament . The plMWMbtti 4 . es tha obnoxious , on account ofthe

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      encouragement it gave to tbe retension of tbat system of I small holdings which had already proved to detrimental ! to Ireland . As to a Poor Law , as fur as extending outdoor relief to tbe aged , the inflrra , and the impoteut , he thought the opinions of the Irish members would be unanimous ; but when they came to give out-door relief to the able-bodied in Ireland , he asked them to remember tuat _circumatancus were very different in that couKtry from what they were in England . A great physiologist defined the cholera to be " a disease that began with _dsath ; " tht proposal for gi ing outdoor relief to the able-bodied in Ireland might be called " a confiscation commencing by revolution . " So lowwas the standard of comfort in Ireland , so philosophical was the resolve ofthe Irish peasant to want but little and

      to do with still less , that if they once instituted the system of © _ut-door relief in Ireland without the workhouse test , be was confident _they would extinguish the last spark of self-reliance and independence in his bosom . ( Hear , hear . ) That was a moral objection to tbe proposal ; but there were economic objections of equal force . The rental of Ireland was calculated at Ten Millions ; tbe number ofthe population entitled to relief would be 2 , 500 , 000 ; who , at ls . 9 d . a-week per bead , would , in a year , require £ 11 . 375 , 000 . ( Heor . ) Having thus absorbed the whole rental of Ireland , what would be the consequence t That the * hole of this burden must fall upon England and the English people . Mr . Osborne tben brought up the standing bugbear of political ccouo . mists : _•—in ' the parish of _Chalesbury where the rental was

      insufficient , to pay tbe rate's and the parish was thrown out of cultivation ia consequence This was a warning against Poor Laws , unless on a very limited scale inijeed . As to emigration , the word was unpopular in Ireland ; but he was certain tbat its landlords would gladly submit to any tax for an useful system of colonization . After alluding to the necessity of reforming the grand jury system in Ireland , he concluded his review of the noble Lord ' s plans by stating that tbey were not calculated to elevate the condition of the poor of Ireland , and by condemning them as the enunciation of a sentiment rather than the declaration ofa policy . He then proposed some plans ofhis own for the cure ofthe grievances of Ireland . He was of opinion thatthe whole system of the Executive Government of that

      country ought to be changed . Tou must either make tbe Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland a real king in that country , oryou mnst abolish his office . You must also make Parliament meet occasionally in the Castle of Dublin . He had studiously avoided political subjects ; at the same time he had his doubts whether Lord Jobn had not let slip a great opportunity of bringing forward a real plan for the redemption of Ireland . ( Hear , hear . ) He could not resume his seat without saying , unless certain par ? ties who never showed any great zeal for religion , except when , according to Burke , it was employed in mortifying their neighbours , —unless they divested themselves ot tbe odium _BvcZegieum that rankled in their breasts , tbe ,

      union between the countries would never be anything but oae of parchment . There should be no Pharisaical pride in affording such relief ; there should be no anathema ofthe tongue to lessen the merit of the charily . ( Hear , hear . ) They had not shown that charity which beareth all things , belie-veth all things , hopeth all things , endureth all things ; they had manifested only that spirit which enaoted the penal laws , that spirit which would echo and call back the error * and the barbarisms ofthe 16 th centnry . If they would feed the starving , they must delay the work of making converts . ( Hear , hear . ) They who played on the sounding brass and the tinkling cymbal should remember tbe Universal Prayer , and , at such a moment , should not

      " Deal damnation round the land " On each they judged their foe . " ( Cheers . ) The noble lord mnst search in the page of history for the records of England ' s misgorernment in Ireland , and for the evidence oi the evils which it was now incumbent on them to avoid . This country owed avast lebt to Ireland for ages of misrule , and that debt was not tabe cancelled by mere pecuniary compensation _, rhe only way io which they could meet the responsibility ivas for that house to pass laws in a wide , large , and _lotnprchensive spirit—laws which should be free both from sectarian intolerance and parochial bigotry . Thus Duly could they cancel that debt ; these were the things the Crown could grant , and these were the laws wliich Parliament should enact . ( Cheers . )

      Mr . Smith O'Brien examined seriatim all the statements made by Lord John Russell in laying his Irish scheme before tbe house , and the measures which the Minister had then _sketched . The hou . member asserted tbat the potato loss bad been _underestimated—tbe money loss having been , according to his calculation , between twenty and thirty millions sterling for Ireland alone . He dwelt much upon the absurdity of allowing exportation of all kinds of food to go on from Ireland , while that country was famishing through a deficiency ; and declared that not a single death from starvation would have taken place had the Government , disregarding their political economy , acted as the emergency demanded . He would not object to the extension of the Poor Law ; and bethought tbat from proper

      encouragement to tbe fisheries , much good could be derived . But he regretted that emigration formed no part of the Ministerial plan . In his opiuion , however , a law to secure compensation to tenants for _iraproreroents made in tbeir holdings would do more good for Ireland than all the proposed measures . A tax upon those _obs tan tees who drained the country of four millions annually , would likewise be a measure of justice and benefit to Ireland . He conceived Mr . B . Osborne to hare made a most unfair and unjust attack on tbe scheme proposed for the reclamation of waue lands . He believed that that measure might be made a most beneficial one . He knew land in

      Ireland not producing ls . which , if cultivated , would give employment to thousands of people . He thought that tbe subdivision of waste lands to the extent _sta'ed by tbe noble lord— say , abeut 25 acres—vtouli confer great advantages npon the people oi Ireland , not only by employing the people , hut by producing in future a class of small proprietors ; a class which was found to , exist " _wwtntiaHy in every country where they had sprung up . ( Hear . ) He concluded by declaring that if ever there was au occasion , this was the occasion on which the Government ought to consider how far the national resources could be directed to the formation and continuance of railways , aui useful public works in Ireland .

      Mr . Roebuck protested in the name ofhis hard-working , industrious fellow-countrymen , against the whole scheme Of the government—against indemnifying tbe Irish landlords for the consequences of their own extravagance and misconduct—against squandering public money upon waste lands—and against the inefficient Poor Relief Bill introduced by the government . The English Poor Law , with all its machinery , ought to be extended to Ireland ; the society in Ireland was divided into two classes—the labouring population and the landlords . It was asked to relieve the former from starvation , and the latter from ruin . The habitual condition ofthe former bad always been on the brink of that misery into which they had this year fallen . They lived on the coarsest , meanest , and _ scantiest food , and

      subsisted not on wages , but on small holdings of land . They were now in great misery , and the consequence was that their landlords came forward and asked the government of England to relieve them , He was not deficient in _sympathy for the people of Ireland , but he could not assent to the present plan for their relief , but be believed that it wonld extead and aggravate the evil which it pretended to cure . Why did be say this 1 Because tbe nominal landlords of Ireland were not its real proprietors . The real landlords of Ireland were the mortgagee and the tax gatherer . As the puople of Ireland were always on the verge of starvation , so were its landlords always on the _rerge of ruin , and were therefore always unable to perform the duties devolving on the possessors ofthe soil . It was the knowledge of this fact that had

      driven him to the necessity of inquiring into the justice ofthe claims which they were now making upon our benevolence _, ne found that they bad themselves heen the cause of all the misery of which they now complained . Along witb an efficient Poor Law he would introduce a better law of real property , a better system of tenures , and better relations between landlord and tenant . There were other relations , however , ia Ireland which it was incumbent upon them to improve . The tyranny of England was now recoiling on itself . It was hopeless to attempt the regeneration of the Irish character , if we left the great subject of religion to stir up animosities and heartburning . lie looked with equal kindness upon Roman Catholics and upon Protestants ; buthe hoped thathe might say , without giving offence to either party , that we had left the Irish Roman Catholic priesthood in a condition in which it was their interest to maintain the

      present state of discord . At the same time he must observe , that any government which attempted to make a State prevision for that clergy would not stand twenty-four hours after publicly making the attempt . He thought , however , that if we were to do away with the laws of mortmain and to allow each priest to hold land to the amount of £ 300 a year , not many years would elapse before each priest would have that income , and would thus be bound by recognizances to that amount to keep the peace . When the great objectof obtaining religions harmony was accomplished , government would bave accomplished all tbat a government could accomplish , save the introduction ofa better plan of educating the people— a subject on wbich he was surprised that not a wcrd had been said hy Lord Jobn Russell . He would find a fund for tbe purpose in the revenues of the Irish Church , supplying all the religious wants of the persons belonging to it .

      Lord Bebnaip gave a description of the misery in Ireland , and condemned in strong terms the combination of the corn merchants in Cork and _otl' . T places to keep back food for the purpose of raising prices . After reviewing the . government measures , he stated tbat tbey were not , in bis opinion , equal to thc emergency . Sir R . Incus supported tlie ministerial plans . Mr . Osborne and Mr . Roebuck had gone over a wide fieldthe latter especially bad contrived to bring in every questo _eexota which had beea mooted in Parliament of late years , including a revival of the appropriation clause . The real question before tbe House , however , was the condition of the people of Ireland , and the best means of relieving it . He entirely approved of the Noble Lord ' s temporary measures foi that purpose .

      Colonel Conoixt gratefully acknowledged tbe generous sympathy exhibited by the English people to Ireland in her distress . The introduction of the English Poor Law into Ireland would , he firmly believed , destroy . all the re . lief now afforded under the existing Irish Poor Law which , as far as his experience weat , had worked well , The scheme for the reclamation of waste land he regarded as a dangerous experiment ; reclamation had not proved remunerative to the landlord , and he could not conceive how it could prove remunerative to tne Government .

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      He hoped the amount ofthe proposed losnfor seed would be extended . Mr . Home wished to know whether the gallant officer who had just spoken , when he said that he would do all in his power to prevent the able-bodied labourer from becoming a burden on the land of Ireland , meant to say that he would throw him as a burden on the land ol England . He was not surprised that members from Ireland expressed their approbation of Lord J . Russell ' s measures , for he was giving money la abundance to the Irish landlords , and was sinking thc condition of

      England , instead of elevating that of Ireland . Wben he looked at tbe different measures of Government as a whole , he found no plan or system in them . He objected ti grantiug so many millions * f money to carry those measures into effect , at a time when the slightest public calamity or disturbance mig ht render it a matter of the greatest difficulty to obtain a loan to the same amount . He was quite convinced tbat these measures would not produce tbe regeneration of Ireland . Tho beflt mode of relieving the present distress of that country was , not by affording money either to tbe landlords or the people , but by compelling the former to provide useful employment for the latter . "

      The _CtuNCEttoa of thc Exchequer said tbat the speech of Mr . Hume did not contain a single suggestion forgiving that practical employment to the poor af Ireland on which he declaimed so loudly . The circumstances of the country were such that no man could confidently predict thatthe measures of the Government would be perfectly successful . Thoy were , however , founded ou the experience of the past , which was the best lesson for the future . Ho defended the Labour Rate Act from tbe criticisms of Mr . B . Osborne , and gave a history of the proceedings under it . He also described the conduct of the Government aud the Board of Works und « the Presentment Act , and insisted that it was monstrous to contend that that act was unpopular , seeing tbat presentments for more than a million sterling

      had been made under its authority . He admitted that many of the landlords of Ireland had performed their duty with exemplary generosity ; but maintained that othew had perpetrated the _vsry abuses which it was expected they would check . He defended the absentee proprietors fiom the sweeping abuse _lavished upon them , one ofthem , late a member of _thathouse—Colonel Wyndham—was supplying daily rations to 10 , 000 persons . He regretted to state that the system of work was breaking down under the Government , and that their officers were suggesting to them to provide food and not labour for ho people . It was stated by tbem that many now crowded to the works who were incapable of sustaining the tatigue of labour , and wbo in consequence died upon them and that others , wbo a few weeks ago were able to earn

      large wage 3 by task-work , were now so redueed as t J be unable to earn enough to purchase food for their daily sustenance . Under such circumstances , he was afraid that the Government would be reduced to the last alternative of giving food to mitigate the evil ; and it was proposed to do it either by the gratuitous distribution of rations , or by the sale , at reduced prices , of soup and cooked or uncooked meat by the relief committees in the different electoral districts of the country . He be . lieved tbat there were two great difficulties now pressing on Ireland—the first was a famine , unparalleled In its extent ; and the second was a total change in tbe social system of Ireland , based on the failura of the potato . He then explained the manner in which tbe measures of Government were calculated to grapple with both , He showed that by the extension of the present Irish Poor Law , by loans on the security of private estates , by tha

      adoption of a large Drainage Act , by the grant of a million for tbe reclamation of waste lands , and by giving facilities to the sale of encumbered lands , the liouse would lay the foundation of a sounder state of things in Ireland . Ministers could not cenceal from themselves , and had no wish to conceal from the country , that hundreds were dying daily of famine . No local assistance , no local funds could provide against an evil so extensive ; and we must , therefore , come forward to a large , and , indeed , to a very considerable extent , to assist our labouring fellow-countrymen . lie hoped that there would be no indisposition on the part either of England or of Scotland to give aid ; and if tbat aid was afforded , Go . vernment must call on the gentlemen of Ireland to give without delay their personal co-operation ; without it , Government could do nothing ; with it he had no doubt tbat it would ba able to perform all that any Government could perform in such an emergency .

      On the motion of Mr . Hauilton , tbo debate was then adjourned . In the House of Lards on Tuesday _rnght , on tbe motion of the Duke of Richmond , the select committee on the Drainage of Lands was re-appointed , SUGAR BILL AND POOR LAW COMMISSIONLord Stanley urged the government not to proceed , without due consideration , with the measure for permit _, ting the use of sugar in brewing and distillatioa ; and stated that he thought , injustice to the lau led interest of this country , the malt duty should be gradually reduced , simultaneously with the reduction of the differential duty on foreign sugar , which will cease in 1851 . He also put a question as to whether government intended to propose any remodelling of the authority of the Poor Law Commissioners , to make their authority extend to Ireland ; and , at the same time , expressed an opinion , that the Whole _subject of Poor Law settlement , both with re ference to _England and Ireland , ought to be brought before Parliament .

      The Marquis of Lassbowse said that it was the intention of the government to remodel the poor-law commission . It was also intended that one commissioner should be resident in Ireland , but he could not state bow the poor-law commission in England would affect his authority _. The whole bearings of the subject could be considered when the bill was introduced . Ths house then adjourned . In the House of Commons the following petitions were presented : — Bj Mr . O . DuHcovtaE , lu favour of the Ten Hours' Bill

      —Mr . T . DrNcoMBK , from Mr . Roberts , solicitor , com . plaining of the committal of four men to Kirkdale gaol for three months with hard labour , for absenting themselves from their work in consequence of their wages being lowered ; a petition from the guardians of Mitton , _prayingfor the repeal of the 9 th and 10 th Victoria , c . 56 ; from a parish in Nottinghamshire , agatust the Poor Re . moval Act , and lor total abolition Of law of settlement . — Mr . E . Denison , from guardians of the poor of the Wal . tham union , against the Poor Removal Act . —Mr . T . Doncoube , from Greenock , agaiust the use of grain in distilleries . — Lord G . Bentinck , from Chorley and other places , iu favour of the Ten Hours" Factory

      BiU . Ma . Doncombe also gave notice that on Wednesday he would move that the petition of Mr . Roberts be printed with the votes . MILLBAJJK PRISON . —Mr . T . Dokcombe understood tbat tbe report of the third commissioner on the subject ofthe Millbank Prison had been sent to the Home Socre . tary , and he wished to know whether the right hon . baronet hod laid it on the table of tbe house . Sir G . Gbet had told Mr . Escott that he must put the report which be had sent to him in tbe form of a letter instead of a report , as a majority of the commissioners had agreed to a report ; and wben it was presented to him in-that shape , be should be prepared to lay it on the table . Mr . B . Escott thought , from the terms of the commis . _sion , that he was bound to send in a report .

      PRIVILEGE . —Sir F . Thesioeb informed the House that in the case of Howard v . _Gossett , the Court of Exchequer Chamber had tbat day unanimously pronounced a decision reversing the judgment of the Court of Queen ' s Bench , which had declared against the justification pleaded by the- _Sergeant-at-Arms . This reversal _proved thatthe resolution adopted by the House , ou the recommendation of its committee , to bring a writ of error , was a judicious one , and it planed the House in a position to exercise tbeir just and necessary privileges . The Hon . and Learned Gentleman moved for a copy of the shorthand writer ' s notes of the arguments and judgment on tbe writ of error . This information was received with loud cheers , and the motion was agreed to .

      FINANCES . —Lord Jouk _Ru-sell , in answtr to Mr . Roebuck , who conceived that be should have some claim on the Government , if he consented to postpone bis mo . tion for a committee ofthe whole house , to consider the Act ofthe 5 tb and 6 th Vie ., c . 35 , with a view to extend its operation to Ireland , said , that as soon as the House had consented to the second reading of the Irish Bills , the Chancellor of the Exchequer would bring forward the whole question , as it regarded finance for Ireland . His Right Hon . Friend would most probabl y make bis statement on an early day . LABOURING POOR ( IRELAND ) BILL . — Several members wbo had notices of motion on the paper having postponed them , tbe adjourned debate on this bill was resumed by

      Mr . G . A . Hamilton , who noticed tho speech of the _Chaucellor of the Exchequer on Monday evening , with which he agreed in the main , and tben vindicated the relief committees from certain charges of negleot and inactivity , which had bten preferred against them , After a cursory glance at the condition of the Irish peasantry as affected by the nature and the variety of the land tenures , the honourable gentleman went on to exonerate the resident landlords as a class from the blame which was justly attachable to some of them for their inexcusable supineuess in an emergency like the prestnt ; and to bear testimony to the benettcieut exertions of the great absentee proprietors—to the smaller holders of which class he maintained that the charge of neglect was very justly attributable . He tben objected to that portion ofthe proposed Poor-law whieh provided for the extension of _out-door relief to the able-bodied poor , on tho ground tbat it would not conduce to the social

      improvement Of the people . In an exigency like the present , tbat relief might be afforded without making a provision for it in a Poor-law designed to be permanent . Adverting to the recent meeting of landlords in Dublin , ; he said , be was anxious to allude to an observation which fell from his hon . friend tbe member for the University of Oxford at an early period of the session , when he designated the gentlemen who attended that meeting , and those associated with thera , " the United Irishmen . " ( A laugh . ) He did not tbiak that his hou . friend had used that appellation in an offensive sense ; but he should like to know what stronger proof could possibly be offered of the imminent danger ia which Ireland was now placed , than the fact that gentlemen differing essentially from each otber upon many most important points should have felt it te be their duty to lay aside their political hostilities asd join together for the purpose of ende & _vourtaj to _toiouo their country from tht perils bj

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      which » was surrounded . They were united , not to de * _stroy _. but to preserve-not to create , but , if possible , to prevent the horrors ofa social revolution;— united , m > t to _Involvo the country in anarchy and confusion , but , in the words of one of the resolutions adopted at the Dub . lin meeting , "to raise the social condition ofthe people and save all classes from the ruin with which thty lire at present threatened . " He could assure his hon . friend that the union among Irish gentlemen on this subject was but a faint reflection of the unity of purpose and harmony of feeling existing among all classes in Ireland on the present occasion . This great calamity , this vhitation of Providence , had softened mon _shearts _, and called forth thc boiler and better impulses of our nature . It

      was delightful to see on the rellefcommitt-. es men , whom early prejudice , strong prepossessions , and , perhaps , the influence of stern principle , had hitherto estranged , emulating each other in an endeavour to elevate the character of their fellow countrymen . ( Hear , hear . ) _Itwasdelightfultosce prejudices gradually dissipating , prepossessions gradually disappearing , and the _foundation laid for friendship , harmony , and good feeling , among the different _classe t of tho community , and he hoped this state of things would long survive tbe unhappy occasion whieh had given rise to it . ( Hear . ) With respect to the measures proposed by tbe Government , as tbey > ere founded on the principle of introducing capital into that country , he would give them all the support in his power . Mr J O'Connell urged the house not to delay in

      passing these measures , because , whilst they were deliberating , the people were perishing . Three characteristics were remarkable in this debate—a general _sympathy for Ireland , u general ignorance of Irish affairs , and on accountable eagerness on the part of tivo or three Hon . members to cast aspersions on the landlords , the clergy , and tbe peop le of Ireland . The Irish landlords had their faults ; but It should be remembered that the British PariiameHt bad encouraged them in their errors , and during the present crisis they had nobly performed their duty . Tbe clergy had also proved themselves the best friends of the peop le in the hour of desolation and death ; and the peop le themselves bad exhibited the most unprecedented fortitudeta bearing with their afflictions . Though proposed to the extension of the roorlawina country like Ireland , where the numberof paupers waa so great as compared with that of thc ratepayers , he

      would offer no opposition to its extension , in the present instance , any more than he weuld oppose , if in a sinking ship , the making of a raft out of her spars and planks . 11 was a desperate case , o » o that would not have occurred had Ireland had the management of her own affaire . But no great measure of general state policy could meetin . stant misery in Ireland ; they must adopt every expedient for tho sake of preserving a few lives . Under these eir . cumstancas he would grasp at these means of saving a small part ofthe population ; though it would be , attended by pernicious ultimate consequences , it would be of some present advantage . He therefore withdrew all tho opposition , feeble and inefectual as it would have been , which at another time he should have felt it his urgent duty to bavo offered to the extension ofthe poor iaw . It had been generally remarked of the proposed measures , that thero was a want of comprehensiveness about them ; it was because the bouse would not consider that

      measure which a large majority of the people of Ireland considered tbe panacea for all their evils—tbe repeal of the union . Tbatmeasuro was now laughed at in that house , but it would be forced on their attention by the present calamity . The people of Ireland believed it would restore its prosperity , increase its revenues , and make it a useful allay nnd assistance to England , Instead of being a drag and a drain on her , and prevent the recurrence of sucn a disaster as they were tben endeavouring in vain to meet . In conclusion , he implored the house to pass these measures as epeedily as possible ; and during the rest of the discussion he hoped there would be no more unjust , unfair , and unhuman attacks on the unfortunate people of Ireland .

      Lord _Castlebeaou eulogised the Government and the English people for their liberality to Ireland , praised the Lord-Lieutonant , and declared that should a tax on Irish absentees be proposed , he would g ve the proposition his support . A sentiment which was also warmly expressed by Lord Clements , and other Irish resident landlords who followed bim _. Lord Clements complained of tlie conduct ofthe absentee landlords for the non-performance of their various duties . His greatest trouble as a magistrate , was in protecting the £ 4 tenants against the rapacity and extortion of the bailiffs and other officers of some of them .

      Mr . C _« cil _Lawless , the new nomiuee of Conciliation , feired the measures were six months too late , in which opinion Mr . Gregory concurred . He also thought that the Government would more profitably expend a million of money ia the establishment of agricultural schools throughout Irelanr ) , tban in reclaiming the waste lands . Sir II . W . Barron gave a list ofthe grievances of Ireland , from the time of Henry II . _dowawards , charging them all upon British legislation , which , he maintained , wis alono accountable for tbem . Thus , it was that thc name of " Saxon" was hateful in Ireland . After a speech of approval from Mr . _LefroT ,

      Mr . _Liboucoeue said he would join in no sweeping con _iimna tion ag . iinst _tliolrish landlords , many of whom had conscientiously done their duty , but he was bound to say that in too many instances had the Government , in its exertions to ameliorate the condition of Ireland , been deprived of that support on the part of the landlords which tbey had a right to expect . Unless tbey received a more general support from the Irish gentry , he despaired , devise what schemes they might , of extricating Ireland . Sir 11 . Peel deprecated a general debate on tbe measures before tbe liouse Jin tbeir present state , as they could be weighed and considered in nil their details wfaon they were brought into committee . Tbey should at once proceed , if possible , to enact those measures

      intended to meet the present distress . He was prepared to grant full indemnity to Her _Mujesty _' _s Government for the responsibility they had assumed in tbe crisis which had fallen uron them . He thought , however , that it would be an advantage in reference to tbe future , that there should be , in the bill which granted the indemnity , ar explanation of the circumstances under _whiih the responsibility bad boen assumed . He was willing to give his assent at once to the bill for giving further power to the relief committees . The evils of the present system of public works in Ireland were great , and the sooner the remedy was applied the better . He was surprised ' that Mr . Laboucbere underrated the danger which arose from the application by the government of the labour of the people to public works , when ho remembered tbat

      only in August last , when-commenting on the conduct of the late government , he had stated tbat the greatest inconvenience arose in Ireland from directing labour from the ordinary operations of business , when only 60 , 000 or 70 , 000 people were engaged upon public works . If tbis was the case then , how much more must it bo so now , when about half a million of people were so employed _. He was ready to give , under existing _circumstances , a wide discretion to the goverament . The officers wbo had been engaged in carrying the present system into operation wero entitled to the greatest credit . As to the landlords of Ireland , he thought that great allowance should be made for the difficulties with which they were sur . rounded . English gentlemen should remember this , when they censured the landlords of the sister country . And

      in reference to that sex who were always foremost in the works of charity and mercy , there was no country in the world the "ladies and females" of wliich exhibited Instances of greater devotion and sacrifice of health , time , and all worldly interests , in attemyting to _alleviatl th _« distress which exiBted around them , thnn did those of Irelaud . As to the mode in which the subordinate officers of the government had acquitted themselves of their duties , it was ovident that they had been inspired by the activity , the devotedncss , and the vigilance of Mr . Trevelyan . Indeed , it was impossible to read the volumes whieh wero before the house , relating to public works , and otber subjects connected with Ireland , without awarding the highest meed of praise to both the higher and tbe inferior officers employed , for

      their industry , intelligence , and integrity , and for their devotion of every faculty of body and mind , without _theught of themselves in the performance of their arduous duties . He repeated his belief , that the Government should in the present _emergency be armed with a wide discretionary power , If the house and the country expected them to exert themselves with effect , and in order to avert tbe calamity with which they were threatened ; and that under such circumstances it would be most unwise to attempt to limit their powers by minute and hampering legislation . He was glad to say that he perceived suffix-lent proofs of intelligence , of activity , and ofa sense of responsibility on the part of those employed , to render him willing to grant this discretion to the government _. As to the measures which had been foreshadowed to them ,

      for the permanent improvement of Ireland , it would be improper in the house to enter into the discussion of their principle at present . He thought , however , in reference to ono of them , he meant that for tbe sale of encumbered estates , that it was of ten times more importance to Ireland than were some of the meat urea which they were now discussing . With respect to the cultivation of the waste lands , he hoped the noble lord would pause bvfore he appropriated the public money to so problematic a purpose . In the conclusion of his opening statement , Lord J . Russell had advised the Irish proprietors to act independently and for themselves , before they looked for external aid . Let him extend the application of that principle to the reclamation ofthe waste lands . To accustom tho Irish people and proprietors to depend upon this country for aid was only to paralyse the energies ot Ireland . If the speculation in regard to the waste lands

      was a profitable one , private capital would soon be embarked in the enterprise ; if St was not profitable , thvy would only be throwing away the public money in SO appropriating it . The government would absolve him from all patty feeling or hostility to them in thus declaring his opinion regarding this measure , but ho would fail in the performance of his duty unless ho stated what were his views with respect to it . Tbe noble lord had many and arduous duties to perform , but if he attempted to make himself an improver , on a large scale , of Irish begs he would involve _hiniBelfiu difficulties from which it would be no easy matter to escapo . He would say nothing at present in respect to the poor law , as that measure would soon be before them in its details , and he would conclude by expressing a hope tbat no unnecessary delay would take place , but that the house would ot onco proceed to sanction the proposals os the government which were _uovv before it .

      Mr . _Staffoeo O'Bbieu , in _declarlug that he was not opposed at present to the principle embodied in the maai _-jresbeforvtti- } house , _resom-J tt ) _himsolf the liberty of

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      aiscussmg _tneir details in committee , particularly muse of the Poor Relief Bill . The bill was then read a second time , and ordered to be committed . The Poor Relief ( Ireland ) Bill and the Destitute Persons ( Ireland ) Bill were also read a second time and ordered to be committed , and the house then adjourned . The House of Commons _sut for an hour and a quarter on Wednesday , no business of importance was transacted if we except the short discussion _respecting Mr . Est . cott _' _s report on the state of Millbank prison . Mr . M . Gobe having moved that tbat report be laid _bvfote the house ,

      SirG . _Grev had slated that what the commissioners were authorised to make nas a joint report , and that report had been ! mnde with the omission of the signature of one of the three , the hon . member for Winchester . ThaUion . gentleman had no power to make a separate report ; he could only send in a letter , and he ( Sir G . Grey ) had ascertained that the practice was to address such a letter , not to the Crown directl y , but to the Home Secretary . The document sent in by the hon . member was informal in both those respects , and had _bowi returned lo Yi _' rm to be put into tbe usual shape , When that bad been dene , the letter should belaid on the table of thc house _.

      Mr . Esoott differed entirely from this view of the matter . The commission was addressed to three per . sons , and tbey were commanded to report " their several proceedings , and what they should find touching the same . " Not concurring in the report made by two of those commissioners , he had found upon looking to the commission that under its express command it wan his duty to report . It did not seem to him to be immaterial whether the _subject matter of that report was put into the form of a letter to the Home Secretary , or was m the shape required by the commission ; a mere letter to the Home Secretary might appear rather to convey the writer ' s opinion on tho report oftlie other two commissioners , than to be itself a report made under the injunctions of the commis . sion . He bad accordingly sent it in the usual shape ; of course he could not compel the Home Secretary to present it , but if he should not send it in to her Majesty , he ( Mr . Escott ) should take other steps upou a future day .

      Sir G . Grex did not wish the hon . member to criticise tbe r . port signed by the other two commissioners , or to alter one word ofthe document which he had sent in , except the heading of it , which stated it to be addressed to Her Majesty , and thc tertnina ion of it , which stated it to be under his hand and seal . If he merely put it thus into the shape adopted by every otb er dissenting commissioner , it would be laid before the house . Mr . DttNcoMBt observed , that to act consistently with practice , precedent , and the commands of Her Majesty , the hon . gentleman ought to report . The terms of the

      _commission were commanding the commissioners to report under their hands and seals their " several proceedings . " Lord Chichester showed by she language ot his letter that he did not consider tbe report ofthe commissioners complete without the hon , gentleman ' s . ' It was said tbat the hon . gentleman , in accordance with practice , ought to send a letter - , but , when theMunit >' p » lCommit _, sion sat , Sir Francis Palgrave sent in a separate report ; and the views of the hon . gentleman ought to be stated in that shape if ho were to act in conformity with what was really the practice .

      Mr . Roebuck took a ' similar view , and after a few words from Mr , F . Maulo , the motion was withdrawn . Mr . Hume moved for certain returns as to the number of railway trains with the view of ascertaining where the travelling on Sunday , had been stopped partially or wholly . The returns were ordered _. The sessional _ordt-rs of last _yearB , with respect to rail _, way bills , were _rc-adopted . In the House of Lords , on Thursday , a short conversation again arose respecting the influx of Irish paupers into Liverpool , and no business was transacted .

      RAILWAYS IN IRELAND—In the Commons , Lord G . Bestisck moved for leave to bring in a Bill to _stiiuulate the prompt and profitable employment of the people by the encouragement of railway s in Ireland . The House has this fact staring them In the face , and there were 500 , 000 able-bodied men commanded by a staff of above 11 , 000 persons , at this moment _employed in Ireland on works which were worse than useless . But this was no reason for despair , because England herself , in 1812 , bad to support , 1 , 427 , 000 persons out of tbe parish rates ; and yet , thanks to energy and railway enterprise —not to Free Trade , as some would ascribe it—England had arisen from that calamitous position . The Railway Commission of 1 S 36 bad recommi . nded a _syste-m

      of railways for Ireland , and Lord Dovon ' s _commission had confirmed that recommendation . Acts of Parliament had been passed for 1 , 522 miles of railways for Ireland , some of these eleven years ago , aud yet only 123 miles were completed , and 164 were in course of completion , while England and Scotland had 2 , 000 miles constructed , and 4 , 600 iu progress , To establish that Irish railway speculation would prove remunerative , the Neble Lord quoted _statistical documents , showing that Ireland was more densely populated than England and Wales , that population was the first great element of railway success , and that the number of passengers who travelled on Irish railways far exceeded that oi those who travelled on equal portions of English or Scotch lines . The traffic , too , in

      Ireland was greater , in proportion to the miles worked and the oxpense of construction , than the traffic on some favourite English lines ; yet such was tbe distrust and Ignorance of the capitalists here with respect to the capabilities of Ireland , that while inferior lines in England and Scotland were at a high premium , the best Irish lines were at an absurd discount . Many of the _frailway share proprietors in Ireland wero landlords and occupiers , who were sufferers by the existing famine , and wbo were obliged to suspend operations on 290 miles of rail for want of money . The proposal which ht should make was , that for every £ 100 , properly ex . pended on railways iu Ireland , the government should grant a loan of £ 200 , at such interest , say three-anda-half per cent ., as the government itself would have to

      pay j the loan to be repaid in thirty years . The worst railway that had been constructed in this country or in Belgium would afford ample security to the government , and tho worst in Scotland , tbe Arbroath and Forfar , would on similar terms have paid the _gorernment interest on the loans , and leave two per cent , over for the share proprietors . He proposed that the Railway Board already formed should be responsible for the _applicati-m of these loans ; that they should report whether or not the railway would be beneficial to the country , whether it would give employment to the people , and whether it would afford good security for repayment _. Not forgetful of the poor , he had provided _striugent clauses by which wages should be paid weekly , and in cash , and companies would be required to construct

      substantial dwellings for the labourers before the railway works shall be commenced . The construction of 1 , 500 miles of railway would improve tbe landed property along the lines in Ireland to the extent , at twenty . five years * purchase , of £ 23 , 000 , 000 ; and £ 1 , 250 , 000 would be paid to landlords and occupiers for the purchase of the land necessary for the railroads , which money would at once bo employed for agricultural purposes . With respect to the bearing of tbis measure on the public revenue , Lord George contended that the raising of sixteen millions , to be spread over four years , and to be expended , not in war , or iu foreign loans , in Portuguese bonds , or in

      Spanish _Actires and l ' asuvos ; but in that country , and on native industry , would not in the slighest degree affect the public funds . And when he looked at what railway enterprise had done for England iu raising its revenue , he thought he was justified in asserting tbat the State , hy adopting his proposal , and by lending nothing but its credit and its name , would reap an enormous amount of income from Ireland , He assured the government he had not the slightest wish to introduce * this Bill in a spirit of hostility or rivalry , but simply as an aid to their measures of relief ; and he assured tbe Irish members thathe had abstained from consulting them upon it , lest it should iacur the suspicion of _beinj an Irish job .

      Lord J . Russell complimentid Lord G . Bentinck on the ability displayed in framing his plan atid In the spirit by wbich he introduced it , and gave him full credit for thc _zeulous desire to benefit the people of Ireland . A plan of a similar nature had been under the consideration of the present _g-verument , as Hell as of the lute , and it was _theirconclusiou that the employment which would be given by railway companies would not be such as would best remedy the general distress now felt in Ireland . But besides that special objection , it would not be advisable fov the government to step outof their usual functions and interfere with the application of capital by faroutiog some railways to the detriment of others , He would not oppose the bringing in of the Bill ; but by so doing he would not bo held as bound to support its future stages . ProYived the Bill was Introduced without the money clauses there would bo no technical objection to its introduction .

      A long debate ensued , and a great number of Irish member s spoke in favour of Lord George ' s proposal , which was also supported by Mr . Hudson and other Protectionist members . Mr . Roebuck led the Opposition and condemned tho _ bill in Mo . He blamed tho Premier for suffering it to be introduced at all when it was his evident intention to snuffit out like a candle on its next np . pearance . It was a mere show off for Lord George , and an attempt to take advantage of Itish distress , to benefit Irish landlords , but if any such bills were passed he would move that no portion of the monies v be advanced to Ireland should be received b y any member of Parliament .

      Mr . Home and other political economists supported I this view of the subject . Almost every Irish member fired as hot as Mr . Roebuck , who briefly replied to the attacks which had been made upon hint ; and all because he had acquitted himself of what he considered to be duty to his constituents . The honourable gentleman ( Mr . Grattan ) had designated him . " a " shrivelled adder , " and he would remind that hon _^ gentleman that a small adder was a very dangerous _tiling , Whenever ho wanted to send an arrow home , b . e _harbed it with truth . In ' tho present instance it _appeared to havetakon effect . Colonel Rawdok _agreed with the honourable member for Bath , that a littlo ' adder was a very dangerous thing . Ue thought that the honourable member ' s conduct and language that night u »< _H been very insulting to the Irish proprietors . Leavo _wob then , « giTen to bring in the bill , and the noble lord was louClj _theered on laying it on tlie table of the house . ' The hill ' wag tb « n read a first tint , to be read a . _wt ) ud % « Q » _' _Churadaj next ,

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      - » nouse then went mto committee of tlm _u home pro forma , for the purpose of _votin-r a _unm " oI ceeding £ 300 , 000 , on the security of fte rato h _^ V _* * - Vd ) mir 1 , for thB purpo £ e of the Desut _- _" _* - _cis After which it adjourned . Z _} n the liouse of Lords on _ifnda , „ . Brougham moved for returns of the premium . _» _** chequer Bills , the dividends paid on En-li » h t • u So ten railways , and the names of all V ; on _'''V . shares in Irish railways , and in so doing , _,., ' , ° " v t the measure introduced in the other house hv i _** - Bentinck had for its object the raising of the _« * _* < railway shares , to enable the _holdurs to g en th ° double their _original price . cm This was contradicted by Lord S tanley who n the measure as being ofa great and comnrehnn . _* 3 " * -1 turc , brought in by his Noble Friend in _tlieoS _' for thc ( purpose of giving employment to the n . n . 8 Ireland , _facilitating internal communication , ° trading capital to that country without t 4 i * „ _**' shilling from tbe pockets of the EnglM _, m-1 i r g n their burden of taxation . 8 * 0 r addl » S t «

      The Duke _, of Richmond , Earl Fitzuiii ' EarlofWinchelsea , expressed their app _^ _E _^ t _* George Bentinck _' s measure . W 0 " * of lord Tho Marquis of Lansdowne _deprecate . v of the subject at tl . e present momem _: d , scu " « _-n Lord Brougham ' s motion having been agreed to _,-, conversation _dropp-.-d . s ¦* , 0 - 'ne NATIONAL _EDUCATION . _-TheMarom , rf Tl _oowt-K laid on the table the minutes respec . in , 2- U « u lately adopted by the Education CommitteeZ £ _T" * Council . Tbe noble marqui , said he had _nowI satisfaction to announce that tbo government prepared with any plan of education lueli as _woL" _" the _peo-jlo of this , country on a par tvlth other _coS . _' in Europe _In _. _which education was almost _universalI ! r ' the fullest consideration * ppw „ ed to f

      Q _^ ZJ _ r . ihlfi tA fr . _imo _nnvevafam _^ f « j _* i __ _** - r « Cu « cable to frame any system of education ona _laree JJii cause they found * that it could be made em » J ? . only by placing children of different denS onTtl religions in the same school-a Pian , „ _Lh- _\ there would be numerous objections and M « Ji' ? But the Government thought it practicable to Zm the system of education alread y established an imr , et ,,. beyond that which it had hitherto received Th parliamentary grants from the year 183 ;) \ 0 iZ amounted altogether to £ 490 , 000 , and there wen now _nomiually 700 , 000 , ana actuall y 500 , 000 persons provided for by the schools in operation , irrespective of the normal schools . The proposal of the Govern .

      | ment was to provide for the more frequent inspection because they thought every school ouglt to be in . ' spected at least once a year ; this they would be able to accomplish by the addition of three or four inspectors . A deficiency of schoolmasters and their assistants was generally complained of , and to remedy this it was proposed that in all schools , reported as good schools , a power should be granted to tho master to re . _eelre apprentices , and that these apprentices should be " allotted to he trained with the view of becoming _scheol . masters / From the _ftpprentlcts bo trained it was pro " _, posed that a certain number should be selected to hare " exhibitions in the normal schools , by which tbey would be advanced to the station of schoolmaster ; and that arrangements should ba mado by which those who _vro-jli not become schoolmasters should be entitled to employ _. ment in the

      revenue department . Thus the most _numeroaj would be qualified to act as _schoolmasters _. while _theotherg would not lose thc advantages ofthe education . It was proposed that a small provision for old age should be made for schoolmasters and mistresses after at least fifteen years conduct of schools of a certain she , Be . sides these retiring pensions it was proposed tbat _' a cer tain number of gratuities should from time to time be given to masters not retired . The government also proposed to increase the ratio of grants to such schools _aj should have appended to them some system of industry agricultural or mechanical . The government likewise intended to propose that schools should be established in the poor workhouses , to be placed under the authority and Inspection ofthe committee of the Privy Council ; and also that sets of cheap books should be provided for such sc _. iools as might demand them .

      Lord Brougham complained that the system proposed was not comprehensive enough . The Bishop of _Londen , the Bishop of St . Asaph , and the Archbishop of Canterbury , expressed their general approval ofthe Ministerial measures _. Their Lordship ? then _ntljourned , In tbe House of _Comoaons , on Friday evening , on the _motloa that the House , at its rising , aiijourn to Monday , Mr . T . _DcticoJiBS movod , as an amendment , that a copy of the report made by Mr . B , Escott to Her Majesty relative to the Millbank Prison , be laid on the table . Sir G , _Gret said ho had no report relative to the Millbank Prison , except what was already before the HjU 8 _i-, After a conversation the amendment was withdrawn and tbe motion agreed to .

      DESTITUTE PERSONS ( IRELAND ) BILL _.-Onthe motion to go into committee oa this bill , Mr , _RCTT ex . pressdhis opinion that-a large system of colonization would best preserve the people of Ireland from present starvation , and lay the foundation for their permanent security . Mr . Stafford O'Bkiencalledtkeatteut ' onof thekouse to the propriety of establishing a smaller territorial divi , sion in Ireland for thc purpose of poor relief rating , such a division as would enabk them to act on tbe princlpleof distinguishing in Ireland between the good landlord and the bad , the improvident one and the careful . Mr . Labouchebe orje _* ctcd to the principle recommended by Mr . Stafford O'Brien as inapplicable to a free country , as . in entirely feudal principle , which could only exist iu a state of serfdom .

      After a few remarks from Lord John Manners , the house went into committee on the Bill , On third clause . Mr . S , 0 _'Biiiev moved an amendment to the effect thata clergyman of each denomination , and president justices in the particular districts , be appointed exofficio to serve on thu relief committees . ¦ On this amendment the committee divided—Por the aiae'idmeiit .. 32 Against it 12 S Mujority agaiust tho amendment ... — 9 G The clau » 9 was agreed to , as also the clauses to 11 inclusive . On the 12 th clause ,

      Mr . Roebock . moved that tho chairman report pro . gress . The motion was agreed to , and the chairman obtained leave to sit on Monday next . _^*^ The other Bills on the paper were postponed , and the _Chancellor of the Exchequer gave notice that the Destitute Persons . committee would ba the first business on Monday , theu the Sugar Brewing 'Bill , and then the Sugai Distilling Bill . The House _adiournod at a _Quarter-past Twelve .

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      _"Rate-pating Clauses of . thb _IIefokm Act . —A numerous and important meeting ofthe " Parochial Committee of St . Pancras , " which ' comprises between 500 and COO rate payers , took place on Thursday evening , in the largo room of tbo ExmoutU Arms Tavern , _Hnmpsteatl-road , for the purpose of considering , amongst other matters , the propriety of aiding a movement for the repeal of the rate paying clauses ofthe Reform Act ; Mr . C . E . Wngstiiff , one of the Churchwardens , presided , and Mr . Churchwarden llowarth , Messrs . Douglas , Dyke , M'Gill , and a large number of vestrymen and influential rate _payei-i were present . Mr . Farris moved the adoption ofa petition to the vestry of St . Pancras , calling upon thera to grant the use ofthe vestry rooms for a great public demonstration in support of Mr . Duncombe ' s motion . Mr . M'William seconded tbe resolution , which was carried unaniraeusly .

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      ¦¦ CORN EXCHANGE , Februaby 1 . The stands being somewhat heavily filled with sare pies , the country markets coming down , and the prot pect of future importations somewhat improved , tho di maud for all descriptions of wheat , of home produce notwithstanding the attendance of buyers was good ruled , very heavy , at a declina in the quotations obtainci on Monday last , of from 4 s to Ss per quarter , and a larg quantity remained unsold at the close of the market . A though the actual quantity of foreign wheat on offer wa by no means hirgc , that article was a mere drug , and ls t 2 s per quarter lower . Holders , however , wore by no mean anxious sellers , hence the above abatement was not _geiu rally submitted to .

      * »»V I ^' <.*Lu Lui Richmond (Yobksuirb...

      * »» v I _^ ' _< . * LU _LUi Richmond _( _Yobksuirb ) Cobn Market , Jav . 30 . —We only had a thin supply of grain in our market to-dav . ~ Wheat sold from , 8 s to 10 s 6 d ; oats , 8 s 4 d to 4 s lOd barley , Ss to O'd ; beans , Cs to 7 s per bushel . LiVEsrooi Cokn Market , Monday . —The arrivals of tleur , Arc , from abroad continue on a large scale . From Tuesday to Saturday last inclusive , there wee reported upwards of 43 , 100 brls . of Hour , 2 G 000 _cyrs , ot'Indiaucora _* . 13 , 000 brls . of Indian corn meal , 0000 qrs . cf wheat , and . 2000 qrs . of beans . On the whole but a limited business has been transacted during tho paBt week in any artielo > ofthe srain trade . Tho majority of holders have not e pressed thc market , but the orders from Ireland having : come forward less freely , a general decline has beeu sub- - mined to . The bus _' _uwss done has been at a reductiooi i ( from last Tuesday , _of-ld * _te > 3 d per bushel on wheat , Is to o 2 d per barrel and sack on flour .

      IIull Coat- _MAUKK-t - At this day ' s market we had » » largo supply of wheat ft-om the farmers , and a good deal al of anxiety manifested , to realise at the late high rates ; »; the _sulus were _lusedc at ei decliue of full y 'Is lo 4 S per qr . r . for best wheats , and such samples as wee * out of conJi- lition wero neglected . So ti _tinsuctions in Foreign , though ; li offered _luweiv lHa _* _HiNeiucv » Corn _Exciiangb . —During tbe present nt week millers would not buy wheat oxcept nt a reduetie _* _** oil of 2 s to 8 s per qr ., which holders wero unwilling to eon ** m _* ply with . Malting barley a drug . Newcastle Corn Market . -This morning thero was fa * again a fair supply of wheat , and tho millers _holdiei * i « |> I good stocks , there was only a _wunievale extent of bvtsv- \ _sv * I viess done at ls to 2 s per qr . decline .

      Street "'¦"'¦ Printed By Dougal M'Gowan, Of 16, Great Windmill-Nil*-;

      street "' ¦ "' ¦ Printed by DOUGAL M'GOWAN , of 16 , Great Windmill-nil * - ;

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      , ilayniarket , m the City of Westminster , at - _- Office , iii thc same Street and Pariah , for the _I'f'l ' f ' _- * ; prietor , FEARGUS O'CONNOH , Esq ., and publisl _«** 3 lie > by William Hewitt , of No . 18 , _Charles-street , Bran-ran * _don-strect , Walworth , in thc parish of St . Mary , No «> v _* ington , in the C _« 4 unty of Surrev , Bt thu Ollice , So , •*> , »» Great _Wimlmin-streetJlIayaiarket , iu the City ot Wes _^ ess mmst . er , Saturday , February Cth , 1817 ,

  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Feb. 6, 1847, page 8, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns3_06021847/page/8/