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Crown And Government Security Bill. Spee...
Hr * EO «* . Jan ., felt ^^^^ tZ tho evidence of . the eommittee . itb £ * ° £ aatof Yar semfeew thatitpreienteda parallel cafetoa " ° * S ° ? ™ a rkear . hear . ) Ia both , the freemen wercthebooy - ; ^ £ h « ve bwa corrupt ; and there was no more Snce inThe ^ outh c ' ase tojastifyits disfran-* %¥£££ £ H £ '*« . was an essential ne «« itv ' for punishing all " such- constituencies as should ta ' mo rrf g " V ° oorroption , end no longer to act aLn the principle of punishing merely the members elected by thesecorrnpt bodies . Ee called upon the goverhmen ttoremedya maUdy , which , as much as any otherof the bodypoiiSc , required to be . remedied .
Mr Huke urged that anequalmeascreofjasticeshould be dealt out to all corrupt cous ituenc es on some uniform prnriple , and that nhUeeee corrupt borough was disfranchimed , another should not be permitted to elect a new ttomtfcr , as Bswjjleywai allowed to * 0 . rje contended that Deroy ought to be pUcea in the same category nlth Horsham . It was peculiarly the duty of government to see to this matter , at a time when so much attention was being paid to the qoesticn of . tha representation of the country . ( Hear , hear . ) He " moved that the writs for Derby be suspended until a fall inquiry had been made int- » the whole sntject . ( Hear , hear . ) The Earl of Liscolh supported the amendment , and expressed Ms hope that the noble lord at the head of the government would lose so tineiuinqairinsintpth * matter . ¦ ' ¦ ' ¦ ' .-.-
Hr Childers , as chairman of the Derby election com ; mittee , begged to say that the committee . had not recbm ^ mended the disfranchisement of the borough , because , clthotLsh bribery had been , no doubt , proved against nine voters , and there was a strong case of suspicion in reference to about 200 bat ofthe * 00 freemen , yet , as . the con & dmency ' numbered 2 , 000 , 1 , 590 of these being £ 18 householders , against whom tntre appeared no taint , it had bee * considered unjust t * the 1 , 709 or 1 . 800 voters to disfranchise . them for . the fault of tha minority . He should , oa the tatae principle , oppose the suspension of tha writs .
Lord J . RusEtti . observed that the . committee appeared to haTeldecided that there were certain cases in -whiefc'O ' ribery had -been- proved against , the freemen . of Derby . aiid that there we ' re other casetfar more numerous , in which bribery more extensive " haft not uses proved , though it was strongly suspected . He considered thst so much had been statedin ths report of the committee as to render it fitting that there sheuld be a runner inquiry into tbe corruption , of . tho freemen of that bafbngh . / . He therefore agreei . with . ifr Hume that * ae issue oT-thlB wrtt on £ ht' £ obe stayed . . Eecould cot take up the Inquiry on ' the part oi " the ' g overEnient ; : in consequence of the raclripliclty of business / iy , which ho was overwhelmed at . pr « sentj bnt he hoped'that Lord . Lincoln , or some other jmember not burdened yfith . tae csresof cfase , would take charge ? fit .,, - ; - ..... . ' /•
i " ! Sir . B . ' PEKB expressed great ; eatiifaction at the ; speech Which Lord John Russell had just made ; for on reading the evidtnee taken in this ca ' se ^ he had . crime totHe cbnclutlpn that It was quite impossible to . refuse farther inquiry into -thebribery which he ' d prevailed among tho freemen of D » hy at the la ' stelection ' . - - ' i ;;; ,. ,-Hr tfCoKKo * expressed 7 his intention "to vote for the iisue . of the writ , - ; thinking that , the -whota'constituency should cot be punUhedforthe : feultiBf : mnefKemenL '" ; : After a lengthened discussion the honse . dirided oh Mr Eoiitfi amendment , whin the . numbert were- ^ . : : ' - '; ; ¦ /•; . ' ' ' Ayes . " ' , ' ,. "'' . ' ....: ' .. : „ . . ™\ . * P : ' : ]! '' . 2 ? oes ... . •¦ -.. •»•' ....,, v -Majority in its ' favour ' ' —— -156 j ; 7 So the writ was not allowed to Issue ; : - ,.,. ' , -
. . . Projected Paupek Pao cEssioK . ii-Sir J . Y .. Bulks , iegged ; to , ajk-the right hon .- baronet opposite whether : fce could give tha . house , any . information on' the subject , bf ' aprojected procession of IPO . OOQpaupers . to be heasad ijy Mr C . Cofhrano on Easter Monday . ! . . - : Sir . S , Gits said th ' attkree " weeksago hehadTttgslve & a letter from Mr C . Cochrane , stating ' that ; he had a petition and address to present to her Majesty ,: and thai it was hU intention to come down to the Home-ofSes ,. accompanied by a body ' of petitJeasrs , on the- ^ th of April , inoidertoplscelt . iu bis hands . He had ,-thereupon ^ informed Jfr . C . Cochrane that any . address of the nature referred to might be presented tohim - in , the " usual course by himself , attended by a few persons , but that no such iocuraent accompanied by * largp mrmfeer'of persons would be received . He had also informed Jfr ^ O .
Cochrane that it weuld'not be convenient for , hita to receive any deputation sr address durisg the Easter , week . Be { Sir . G . Grey ) had received lettersfrom varioos poorliwuntonSj . statioE . thatlerteTS addressed , by Mr C . fjochran- to persons ef the name . of Jones , andotherg ofthe Tama of Sai b , had been received at the workhouses , in the hope that they would find some ene of thtse names ia tbe workhouses . Those letters stated that the petition ofthe ? aor wag to be presented by the writer on Bister "Konday , accompanied by 150 J 000 ' piupers , an ? , bo hoped those who received thera " would inake every rade & vaur to accompany the proctssion . Since ttiatjhe had received ne infi-rmation that it was Mr Cpchrane ' s intention to resort to any such proceeding as the depoV tation he had referred to , and he ( Sir ( J , Grey ); tho ' nght that that Indlvidualmightba safely left in the hands cf Ihe police commissioners . ( Alangh . ) ' :-. ; .-:
Eastee Rzcess . —Iiird 3 ; Rcsssll , in accordanoe with a promise given by him to the noble lord the metn ber for Falkirk on a former evening , would ; statethe . coarse he would propose to the - house to follow wiih ; retpfct to the adjournment during the Easter recess , tub--jEct of course to the progress of the Croyrn and Government Security BUI , He proposed to move that the house should adjourn on Wednesday next until the Saturday " following , and . from that day until Monday tbe IstofHay . ' "' ' / Csowk abd SoVEKKKasT SicbiiiT Bttt . —The report of this bill was brought ap . : Hr Agiiokbt moved a clauge , rendering misdemeanor fiusi & btblebj imprisonment , with the view to leaving out -fee words ' by open and advised speaking , ' which was ¦ j jegafived by a ajjority of 67 , the numbers 117 to ' 50 .
' A ' claasepreposedbySir . W . CtAX aleip inreferenesto ' the omission of the objectionable words , and the snhsti ' . tatioh of a proviso , enactfpg that when a second offence « fis-charged , theofiendtag : party " should nbtbe admitted tobuh was negaKred by ' 83 to-S 9 , msjbriry 44 . The Attcesei Gehkal . submitted a proviso thatlhfbrmationB must be sworn within six days after the . commission ofthe » 2 eDC > , and the magistrate ' sWarreit issue within ten days from that period , which , after a debate ' , vjaaeirried by ; 142 to 39—majority 112 . - ' Kr Bhght moved at an amendment . that the power * of . thei act shonid nbt . bs . invoked , except at . the instanpe ; pf ' tie " 5 aw , Omcer « ofthe Crown , which was rejected ; by a . ByorItjofl 21 , jthenumbei & wete 49 tol 70 . . " . . ' . " . ;_ Captain HiiiiB moved , but snbsegat ntly . wH 6 drewi ; i ehiufe propo » ing to empower the g * vernmjit .. to diSftrin the people of Ireland of pikes and rtmilar hostile WeaponB . The ; report was then received , andthe bill was ordered to "fee read s . third time oa Tuesday , the debate to be Ukea ' oa that questiQn at 12 o ' llock . ' . . ; . ' ! ..::
, " In tfaecouraeof . the debate ,. Lord Johh Ecsaiix cpnigretalated Hr , Hume ba his first exhibition as . an" iro & ieal ad Barcastic speaker , and thaai ^ ed the ^ gentlemea on . tie ¦ Goaservkfive ' beBctes for tfee ^ disinterested sapport which ' &^ h * d reeentiy ^ fforded mihisteri , and of which" mlbis- ^ t ^ fettjagtljprond . ' : ..:.- •/ ' . " : " . . . ;¦' : ; ' ' i l" : ' .... ^ F ? f * « fotlbwiug ' up . the attack » ' aid , hVwaS ' not warprised sd theirp ' meal tone of . the " hen . member for ^ imtros ' e it ' theprewut momsut . wheuhe remembt ' sea ths peculiar aad novel paislilen in which the hon . ' member
- . fcadbsen placed within the Ustfew ^ ajBi ' The hon . member was at the . head ' of a " nnmerbusibat . not very wel ! - : ffisciplfaedarmy , andhecbuldhotcamplainefaothavlhc ; , ; " soo ghtE ? fair field on which . to exsrclse them .. ( 'Heari ' ¦ - '"• • aadalangh . ) The hon . member was new really ' la k !« " ' ' jfoihical yonth , end fall of the vigour ef hisnew birihi : ' !' 'Se ' was fibout te enter into a nsore active career , and , / ""' trrt & a considerable interval of practice with bis neW •¦ ¦ iorce 8 , he might meet with success , ( 'Hear , ' « nd - " ¦ " Isagfcter . ) i •' ¦' -- -fjoppra a « d trip Bents , —TheCaivcELtoaof ' . the 1 " - ' 'SxesienES ; ihea moved that " thoiioiise resolve itself into
* - ' - ' - '' eeamiitteeof the whole touie oa the Cepper * n & Liii t- ¦¦ Caties ^ :: '' " ' . - ' ¦' ; ¦¦ ' ; \ ; ' - " ; . ; " , ' ; ' ' - ! - « , . - - ' ^ - Sir C . Irkosr iaoved , a »_ an amendsaerit , that s eeleot —' ; ¦ e < iniinittee be eppoirited toinqalrainto the effect 4 if . the ' i :. ' ; eilideff dttfiee ai ;& ft ' yiartiti 6 a ' * na proaaktloii ; of f : .- -o ^ ger . OTev ' ¦ ' ¦¦ ' ¦ ' ¦ ' - ; ' ; "' ' '' . ; . ' . ' ; ' ";'¦ . ' . ; , ; . ] , ; -. ( -. !¦; .. -SheTioaseatvided—ifbrtheortginalm ' OHonjl 62 ; 8 gfiioit - ' ¦ > / " ^^ rtaajdHtyii ^ . ; : ' ^ ; V ; ; . ' ..,. ' ' :. ' . ' . '¦ : ' ' . '"' -, r ;; -, :- ' X 3 xihjni * thea ' wettt into coamitteejand ? the ; Cuik . CEtLoiof the EidEr ' ftuittjffopoaBi - - ¦ - 't «* oct 5 on of VhVdutie » l , '' ; - - - ; - --- ' ' . ' '' ' - 7 ; ! ^ -. ; . ¦ :. - ; 77 a ^ tfor the 6 i tai repeki' 6 f the duties until thehoose ; . i ^ - «« it -intoef 6 m"inirtee eh ^ e ' hUl ; hi the meantime . he ¦ ¦ '¦ i ' - *' - TfefiSd ^ 'hiinfonhed whether th . e . ' g <^ erhment . would he r- ¦ ' - ) Jpregwi ' ed ' torake £ slndiar course ; to , &'« t howprbpoMd ¦ v ; :: ;« fi ^ r * ferehcetb ' : tiBt ? c : '" :: f ' : ' ' - : '
,- . - : ; : ; - ? TheCHiKCBCLbsdf 'fte--Escu ur ^ , - nQt haTibrrc : r . ' - - ^ v ^^ j- " repsrtefa ' tio « 6 h- taViuhJ 6 ^ of eee any immediate necessity for s £ ch a r ^ anetion . ; - ' - 77 :- ' 4 : ' . * '•(¦ . ' i-iaic \ - & i BMfllicii ' mbvdd * thkt the Chairman report t ^ . » .-jee ^ resii j -esliea tt " e eoa ^ U 8 diviae 4--ii 548 , 13 ;; nose , . -: v ? 7 > whtetfiei-resoiutionB ' were agreed tb | BHa ' . the house resumed . ,-.- - •• . ¦ > . ;> ¦ - ¦¦» ¦ ¦• ^ \ , .. ;¦; . -l :. . 1 ^ Os lfteiiMtteffof-Saf W / SbitttvTtis ; Hhe seleet " com . r- T ' - - g ^ vwoa theSsfldlord ' aiftd' Seuantjlrelkna ^& ll ! wai zt . —¦ ¦ ¦ sojafnated , fedthetfcOose ' edJoUrsea fts'bae ' e ' cfcielc . - - ' i : ..:-. ^ -: i .: ¦ ¦ ¦ : ¦ ¦ ¦ " 'TUE ^ bAtV AiilCiS . ^ ^ ' ^ ' ; ° ' ' * HODSE dF lOit ' DSS-SrAXt \ " 6 ' F . rDPBWH . —Lord it :- s ^ cirojriiskea Khat '' sUpi- " ' ^* lheen ; . ; tekea . bj Whi 7- T gbrtrument wi ^' mpicV te the ' tra ^ g ' of . exme ' d men UK-Za ^ ubThf ? - ' ' ' : i :: ' n' Vl ' '"' . ' . ' .. l ' ¦¦ ' . ! . ' . ¦ l ' ii , ' .: ' . V
. <¦ 7 r - "' - ' -- 'TbTBHarquiB bftiwEDOWRE ' repliedfhat . he b . ad ; said t : ' .: l i ^ rHonday , ia aniwtr ' td ^"'« mirar ' iEestjon ,, that-if ; b " - 7 ^» feB * ny ^ ini % ' feoiag ' bhjfwaf » idisunrti charac ^ as b ' auth ' «) rfsethe . iord Lien . ' . ^ * 1 eMB . i \^ i ' - &^ i & ' * h 1 lU & M \ to iVMht in force ; *' * - jjeTe ^ aess a ^^ eItseti 5 ^ "d " tba iil * ^ <» uldWereaily ' ' pWei , the 1 t 5 ' raHeii tenint wonld ; im . b ; ' -i JBfealaU ^ puttt « l ^^ ^ B | ah ' 4 "fie was now . abletff i state that prdce ' edirigE in the ' nature"it tfatnipff ( of the * usooiarms ha"dbera " u 3 scbVerea ^ a » yVr " two " . : since , ;; to ¦ rf ;' . - ' ^ i % o ^ % & ia - 'bdb . 'in / and "' Setare'tiid evening all ! Aha , V' ^ 'S ^^ TOS'E ^ Htti ^ adljee uarreftea-- ^ hear , ' iiear)—eu- ^^^ . ^" " ^ ty ^ B . eBjWsd . for ibB 0 aephm > Be t « SS ? ' ^^ ^ 'ii ' ^^ ' A 6 ^' - firihg' ' SK ^^^ - ^!^^^^ , i »^ W , SS ^ 2 ^^ ^ -V iw £ ^^^ oo ^^ ^^ EIe ^; : a : ?^ tIv .. V- / C ^ . t ; -: '" . ' :.: " . { : ' - ¦; -:-: ^ -, J ! ' - * r j ; . j . I % " " " - . - - ¦
Crown And Government Security Bill. Spee...
On . the mptien that the report he brought op , ; . Lord BaotGHiM ' proposed the'following amendment : ' That notbing in this act contained shall be of force , by way of retrospfciive ' orfi pokfiatO law , " to ; affect ; any vested interest , or decide any question now pending befsre any court , or in . either houso . of parliament ';' Their lordships divided— .. j For the amendment ' . I , ' ' 21- ' " . - S £ ' ' : Againstit : - " . ' . - . ;;• . ' 10 . . Maierlty ...... . . ,... ' ¦ — 5 . -.-. ¦?' - - - '
Lor 4 MosTEiGLE complsined that the ; n . oble and learned lbra bad divided the nnurt . ' . after Saving stated that it Was not his intention to do so , in consequence . of which several peers had left the hbusei If surprises , of this sort were to be practised on her Mejestj a . govern ^ ment , all of whom voted lor the noble andlearned lords amendment , he should Uk 8 toknow how the pobl . c service was . to be-oarried on ! .. In neither hqtwe of . parhsmenthadhe ever . knownaninstauce . of . any such , pro- eacding . Hiw ' ouldgivenotice that on to-morrow ho would mbve the house to reverfio ' tha decision w which
ithadjastcsme . . . - , , -.. - ' ' , . Lord BaocbHik ' ssio ; he ntver saw an-instance Of a . more complete want bf recollectfeh of what passed within thehsthour tbauhis noble friend exhibited in bis . proper person at . this moment . ( Laughter . ) , The noble and learned lord then explained that , in the first instance , he promised he wdg 1 $ take , the division oa the third readlogj buVihcQHBequence of a sopestion ' made by hU noble friend opposite , he ' Btat ' ed ' that he ' would m 6 v ' e his amendment ^ Whe ther the dme ' ndraent . was takenin cbffl * ittee ' or upon the report ! was a maVter , of absolute indifference . ' His noble friend had said that he ( Lord BrougbimJhad ^ onlylwhiBpered hiB intention of proposing the . amendment , but it , wa * & , -whisper , . made acrosBthe . tablewhihit , he . 8 atlnhls , plaae . ^ ' . '' ....- . . The Loan GHAKCEiLoa— - And nobody made the sli g htestoVjectioo . j ., . : . ,, .., - ; .,- . .:- , Lord BaocGniH—Certainly not . . Nothing could be more unfounded than the assertion ; that in assisting on a division he had takentheir'ldrdships by surprise ., ¦" . '
The Earl of KALUisBuaT' said he : b ' ed'been ipthe habit ofcoUectingvo tfSiandobtaiaipgthesrtteadahce of the noble Iordsiwho ^ generally . acted with that , the . : Opk pesitioo , sideLof the , Hoase , and . be was asked on this bcr casion ^ . to solicit ; the pr « ence . of such noble ; ibrds " , as agreed to this bill . " He did so in ; the usual Way , '' anid then iaquired . of . his noble and learned friend . ( JLord Brougham ; whethw'he waV going to ' divide the House on his ' aaiehdmeirt His reply was , * r have no fEfentipn of the sort ; I only Want to . recbrd my-Spinlon in oppo ^ ltioa to thti 'Butt . " meaty-hen *} heaVj )! Hb" ( Lor ' d HaJmesfaniyJ . theh . tdHjhiaibble . / riendsTonfthftt ^ . dej Qf ths honse . that . there woald , be . na , divisiott .: and that ! ' they might resHme . any . occnpatlpn , thatwould be , more agreeablbto ttiem ' . theiU J ^ present ^ . wlth . ou ^ an y danger 7 of having th ' e " amenameBt earri ^ d . 'fifis , impression . waV , that the noble ' and leirned lord had abi acted as fairly as he was generally accustomed to doV ( Hfear , hear . ) ¦
'¦ L 6 rd BB ' ouGB' 4 H' { wit'h ' great Warmth }^ -M y . lords , ' ¦ 1 have- only - to ; give my most complete , etringent 7 and peremptory denial to that . vC ^ Ordw ^ tisd laughter . ) I wiilnot be Cill * d to order , for ; stating si f » ct . > l . never heard the noble ' Mt ^ es ^ . a ^ wprd ^ fi ' jthe kind , -I'htard him ask : the question ' whetttr t . meant , ts . debate -te . nighitj and I wa . B told ' tha ' t the dehate waaio ^ be taken ; oa the' third Resiling : ' ^ KtfiibWe lord , ernld " say that I said I wbtsld sot divide ;; If t did nbtdivide , anj-noble lordray noble ' and les rned friend 6 ppo 8 ite' ( Lord . Campbell ) might iO' so . ' Neither-tbe Tiobio 1 lord' nor-any hum j ^ n Jtieing could say thatil . promisea-not tbdivijle . -The -question was abOututbating , and ^ repeatedly said that I did not intend ^ , to . do so , ,,. -. , ;• :. oi ; ¦ ¦{ > . <¦; ¦ , ' . ¦ ¦ ¦ ,. -., ? . - ; : Tbe Marquia of . Li , i « pow « E irat . underg . tood . ^ to . gay , that no effort was ! mads on the part of the , government to securo the attehdanbe of noble'Iqrds favourable i to the Biuv ;';';;" ' ' -- ' ' : " '"' ¦ ¦ "" ¦ : ' '" v ' i ' ' : }; : -: ;¦ - . '
'¦ 'The Ekrl ofmizwsBpifo'z iBaidhe bad been frequently asked for'information with respect to such " : matters , and therefore itwas natwatthat sotne . neble Ibrds " ; oa the otherside ofthe house . should inqoire-pf ; -h'iin .: He-had certainly led some ; of thetn to believe that . there would be no division , ; in . . consequence . , tf . jwhat ; , the . noble . and learaedlord h £ tLtoldhim .. •¦ . , ¦¦¦ ¦¦ „• ¦ \ '' ' ¦ Lord BEou < 3 riijf—I ask the noble lord whether I Bald , 'I do not mean to divide **"'' ¦" . " .. !' . ' . ; ¦ ' ¦' ¦ ' : ¦ i - ' The Earl of MiijdsBciT—I asked , « WilI you divide 3 ' .: . .- ¦• : ¦ <• ¦ '¦¦¦ ¦ Xv . ' -i- -.. ' . ¦;¦ : : • ; " ; ^ , ;„ . ; ... . - : Lord BaoueiuH—Lidliay ^ + 1 won't divide . S '; . The noble etil won't screw . hitasclf up -to Bay so .- ' j !; .. j , ; ,-
The Earl of If 4 tHEfB 0 By--The uoble and , learned , lord said , ; " t have no , intention to ^^ doso . ' -. ;( Hear ^ hear . ) Lord Beouohah—Meaning ' thereby . tliat ! I . hadjno . ni . tention of going into a debate ' on the clause . ( L ^ u ^ hter . ) ' ' ' .. ) ¦ ¦ . ¦ Earl Gssr here earns to the rescae and the subject dropped . ; : ' ¦ ' ' ¦ .. ' ¦ ' i j ,,:... '; . The Crown and Spvemment Security Bill ^ vas . then broaght up from the . Pemmons ,, and r * ad ft . first time . ' . ¦ , Their lordships then adjonrned to ait , , on . Wednesday ; for , the secohd reading of the Gagging B 11 L . j HOUSE O ? COMMONS . —The Speaker teoki the chair at twelve o ' clock in order to Harry ' ba ' the ! Gagging Bill- - '¦' ¦ ¦ ¦ ' : ; : ¦•"• • • : ' ' - ' 7 ' ; ' ' . ; : ¦ „
Chartist Mertihq ou BLsCE-HEiTH . ^ ar r .: p . CqHNes , as an act of justice to the Tihes n " ewspaper btgsed permission ofthe house ta read a noto . from . Libut ^ nant-Seaeral Napier , who had asserted ; po » iteelj .. on a former occasion , with reference to a report of certain tpeecht a alleged to have been delivered upon BlackheatlJ , tljat no such ^ meeting hid " * ieeU held . General papier now stated that he had madeinqntry , and found that a small assemblage had taken ' . place on Blacktea ' th for the pur . pose of adopting apetltlbn , and that thesp'seches reported in tbe Tihes had . no doubt hees made at that as sembly . The gallapt ; general accordingly begged . leaye to correct the error into whIch he had , falleu-. [ . •; .: An / prasHCXT of . tbe House , —Lord . J . iRoBSEii , gave notice that at the meeting ofthe house to-morrow he should move that the house adjourn at its rising until Saturday n « t . - ; " . ' . ' ! ¦ . .- .,.., Saturday n « t . - ' . '" . ' ' ; ; .,,.,
, the nohle LiBD said he should likewise' moy 6 ; that after Easter , orders of the day should take precedence ofsftices of-motion-on- Thursdays . ¦; : ' - '> ' - - ' - ¦ ' .. ; . - / ¦ ' - Ciows . isp ; SovBBNHE . vx . BicoBiTi Ban—Qn the order of tbe . day for . the . third reading of this bill , _ ,:,- . v . .. . Mr HoJfE expressed great doubts , whether , the opponents of this . bul . bad carried their bppbsiti ' oh to the full extent that ' the novel' and . extraordinary ' chaTacter . of the-measure ft quired . He warned' ihe ' noble lpTd'thftt . any attempt tbcarry into effect the objectionable cfautes ' of the bill , would be followed by consequences much moresirions'thauheanWciBated . ' The government had psssed two coercion bills 7 during thelpresent session and an income . tax biH ... bat not a single . remedlel measure . He feared thatj ' seeing ; these ithings , jthe ^ pe . ople would be driveh ' to other , " measures to obtain , . refoutis , -Hemovedthat the ' bill " lie read a ' tnir . d tfme ' thatj day- 'sir months ! " ' ' ' ¦ ' ¦ ¦'¦ : '¦ ' ¦ ' ' ' " ' ' ' . ' ¦ ' . I' : '•' : •'• " '
'¦ ' Sir D . LiBviSB objected tbceftaih portions of the bill , bat he ebuld nbt concur in . eta indiserimiriate behsure' of thew . hola bill . -. ¦ :. ; :.--i .- ¦! i- ¦ -, " :. \ . =.- . i ! ! - ¦ . ' . ' v ; ; , ; Mr O'Conkob said : that he- , wpuldno ^ r attack ; { be . civil . andmilitary . ; position of : the hon . iaind gal- _ lant pffJcer . ^ Sir-. DeiLacyjEvans ^ who had Just sat ' down . ; -T | iat bQni . gentleman ihadi ^ madc' a'ig ' reatj blunder , and a valuable -, admission lofi , hi & autb ^' rity wouW be relled ' . upou by ; a-, juryi ; or . if a prwaner under , this , act ,. could make ; such ; a : sweeping defence . astheihou . ^ . gallant . officer had-madejin ; refutatipn . rtf . th £ chargej brought agamst , bim < by ithebbniJ member for linsburjy then he ( Mr- O'eonno ^ would 1 apprehend no .. danger : from . the present- bill ; - That gallant officer ., admitted , having ; tUsed itbei words' at-
tributedtohim , but ^^ believes he didn't use ithenvbecauie they were ; not reported in the ; Times newspaper . ( Hear , hear , and laughter . ) This would be a defence that every Cbartistmay truly .. set up ^ but perhaps , tbej ,. deficiency , would ; he supplied by a po « lice :, 8 py or an informer . ! . ( Hear , hear . ) 7 But 7 he contended tbafc the coHfee $ ion , of , the gallant officer himsejf i would , tubject bim to an indictment uri ^ ef this bill , had it been fa existence ia tberpalm ^ dajs of Reform , ; and then , he , would , have ; -the honpur of , trVnspprtation in company , withjthe noble lord and buiodjeagues ' , , ; CHear , ; : hearj ) ... Why , ! what ! bad , the gallant officii jd ; u sf . That ; his -invEBion of ! London witti . iQOMji ' , meni-wsft . rjot ., to . intimjdflte-this ¦ ¦ ¦ then government , bnt ta strengthenits . hands ; thus proving ! 7
that men alone constituted his notion , of ; ctimeyb & ? ause he admitted that , he wasiready tQimarch upon itbudb . n- ^ , verj , m ^ tary . phrase , j-ifc the bill ! was rejected . ; , ( Hear , feearO :, And , thenfif wordSiSilviseclly spoken are ( to . be . proqf . of j . the ^ intettt ^ the- i galiant " of ^ cer . and n ) sxonfedera . te 5 J 1 wpuld ; , i } e , guU , ty olf jtlie burning . of BristpHj . Newcastle ,, and / Nottingham tjas , tie ; aud . as ., p ar ^ ji ^ . ^ nunt 8 , , ^ 9 . tderited ' nifihnVent eguallv with those ; wJiOBeierini . e ? . w'as the oyert . actf . wbiie the ' ga ) lant , oi 5 cerj 8 . words were-the jn ^ e ' n ^ . ' ,. ' ( He ^ r ,. nete- ) , ' jNow ^ no ; , such results 'from ' open anq idvise ^ ip ^ ing ' Iiad . taken "place , . oh \ Mbhi 3 ay jlas ^' wijjk tlije . i trans af tionsj o ' ^ t bat i 4 § y , HHat ;' did ib , t , ' o ' cc . ur , f re . , made , the . pretextfor , ; tbA 3 r , unc , b n " - stltotinnal mpastlrp ^ tViw Trinlaiinn . nt ihat TJill . nf
, SfeVt 6- ~ tai 5 , iufraebbn . ot [ . ) . h \\\ bst ^ ei ipilr . emeni , rX ^ e ^ r . 'heanj ; . Jt ^ Wtta . hus ' bp ^ t to , |) e ^ ble ' toiellithe : ^ BF ^ ° i ^ 5 ^^ fejew exisU ??& $ 5 ^ r , Jg $ !?<< Vt 9 P ? i o ^^ .: P ? EH l 8 ^ tV : ; . because . the . ^ wer ^ Vf ^ speech . jalncj ' comoipss ^ ou , if .. properl y j . uEed ; ,. afmeji , the ; niasEe 5 ' with the . i means . of biirlirit ¦ M \ ° \ WW , ffPJ ' ^ ft o ' m . powfir- ' ^( Hear , f ; Hear .: } . ¦ ¦ Jlf ^(^ . W ri . ? na ^ boastfully- ^ * M tim JM ^^ I- ^ 'f cons titution , " worth .. living ftr and f ? ty ? P £ f % hP . n i when tb ^ tcon # utioB , was : vio , i : « " ? a raits , most : Cbe ; kheb \ , prineiple ,, by , thevervim ' en ' ' ^ h . ose . o . ' p ^ t # , y ' a . s ;< bat ; it ,. was , based upon the-lilood .
ty vbeir . apceslpr ? ,, ( hi ^ , mb : uth -. was ' . ! gagged , and ' he Jdare'd not . pr ^ ctic . e ., S ! ich J a , deceptioni -.. ( Hear , hear . ) ^? 4 h ? f ^ Si ^^ gSte ;«? rerai ; tjiq ? s „ but bad repeiybd \ P . ^ , | nfy ^ : ; , fl ^ had , asked .. the meaning ' of ' j ^ jP ^^ AmIPj SPEAKiNf trjoutlnioii ' r ^ etnb er in , / tba |; Muse ^ had . ^ ept ^ jcei } an , aiiswer- „ ( Heajf ; "hear , )) ' HCj bad stated ap . ptber facf in , answer . "t o 4 ie . p ' re > umeicl e ^ njuajsters ^ , na , mely , that j tjlie- ' . jbifl (* as ' a'bO 0 ( a at , ^ yjfas n iela ^ a ) mR ; pf- the n ^ id iaw ; nrt ; r ' e . a ^ 9 n ; . b ^ ¦ the ^ aw . ' of treason . ^ n tb " at , form ,. injwb ichit jwag susi ceptible of jjrbof , was lefj ; ' , untouched weciseiu as ' wa ^ . ' b ' efore ., syh ' ile . the bpasje ' d to . on | wa 6 To . t .-Ju'l . ' ¦ ¦ j i JlU . i'Ci- /? >!> - . * . ' ¦* - ~ r- ¦¦ " ¦ ' ' ' C : «
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* his : that the propose ' 4 : relaxation appUetijto . qria ^ es iwhich did not happen ; once . in a century , awhile theiincreaEed . vigour- was : applicable ; to ' critaSB wWch -may happen every : j ay Un ' ¦ the iiyear : ( Hear ; "hesr , and -loud - cheers . ) '• ¦ • Well , ' then , where was the boon" ? Where was the elehieHCv ? Wlietewagthe relaxation ?' . ( Retf , { 'heajrij' , ' , Wheti they were pai 5 ihg tae -Irish Coercion ' Bill , ' he told them thatUts effects would beito ' terrify the ^ , injured from'appealing for redre ' ss to the law , lest coercion maybe the ahsvver to the rebel bffendeVj and thus thb realjy ihjuVed were deprivbd of the law ' s protect Hon . ;( H 6 ar , ; beJar . ) H ^ applied ' the . same rWe law , thus—that dreacl , pf . ' ; drenching upon this iji-. exph ' cahieenactnienti would clpee the mouths of tho ^ b who . had- real grievances ! to complain , of , but "Which .. they would smother du' pent up anger , least their open and advised '' proclamation
should-subject them' to the ignominious fate '¦ _> , of felPns . " . " ( HeS . r , heari and cbeir ^;| ; ' WQuld thereibe safety , t ^ ieh ; or weakne ss ,. ' in this '' , ' treasonabre con- ' spiracy against the . prerogative of . the Crown and the . ' constitutional rights pf the people ? ( tiearV . hear . ) . Could the noble lord draw no inference between the desertion of old allies andfrjends and , the rabid . howl of his incessant and bitter eneraies . ? ( Hear , hear !) Did he imagine | pr expect that , while'bid was ; cbntraUsirig all ppwe ' r :. within that house , even to the admin ^ istratidn pf a Ipauper law , to check , impede , or stop the tributary streams- bf knowledge , which , were houtlyr . runnnsg into the reserypir . pf roiud „ and which , . ere long , would , bfe a k down his flimsy barriers ; burst the > floodgates bjfignorance -and overwhelmhis centralised corruption ? ( Hear , uejuy and cheers , ) He she wed , tbiem . before , th ' atthebrdihary law was sufficient to fepresf What
is' " called" sedition m 1839 ; ^ 1840 ,, -1841 , ^ and 'iS , i 2 , : and . / ' ^ h ) le panic ;} ' was the ' . justification urged' in . ' favour , of . this ' measur . e , his answer was , That not-a political offence had been comniitte' d tor the last : six : years ; and ,: perhaps , this awfuj stillness had alarmed authority more than sudden outbreaks ; Buti Ireland was ^ to be their Oattte ground . In 1833 they- asked for -coercion—that remedial measures ma * be . administered' in . ' time of . peace—they had since had tftti ' stillness of the ' grave , yrith passive obedience and , npn-r ? si 5 tanceeyen tp ^ ulp i ^ le slaver ^ atia hehqla , Ireland's lohg-withheld remedial bieateure ^ -: to , ! inike coffitjiairit or bittdr . ^ rong an ^ 4 ee PP ? f ^ " siQij . ' a , ^ anspqrt ahie JEeloriyj ( ttear ,, ; hear , ; and cheers , ) ,. ' , Andi ; , ihe % the stateiofiFrance ^ aaiUrg ^ d ; hut he . ( Mr O'Connor ) looked for . no- fdreigh aid , nor . could ho be over censorious 7 on : bitter '
denunciation , of : suffering and famine , 'backed by coercion ; leaning . t p burn | n ^ ;^ 'b' ^ s /' _ ( 'Hearj # ean ) ' Therb were "two points in his 'SpeKchi'"bf ' . last ( night , for ^ fiich' ' the ; ' ., honourable' memb ( er , ^ brVCppke r ^ , ^ hrjm ;' ' he ^ j ^ s ' . sorry . to taken ,, hiini \ ^ p ; ta $ k .-. / or , . ' , rather ! . uncPur . teous ly s ;; tjip . se points wer ^ y th p ^ j . difficulty imposed dpon . " .-ithe Accused . p ^ ,. , , rebiiittjng .. Cj iwflr . d . s / i after ] a | lapseiof . ' ^ xteea , ' iayi , . proteased : ift .-. Jbe'iaceumtelV ' fe-i pprted' ^ by : < a ' J ; spy . ; . ;! or •• informer—wcihi . they were .: freshn upon ¦ = his" naemory ; ' the -ojthe ' r ; was the r antagonism ; which ; the '; Attbfhey General ' s definition wb \ jld , ; c ^ the , ^ rpwn : and thb' cpminittirigp . justfeei ' ; ( rtea . rj feeaf . ) " Novr th ' . e : bbni ^ member , 'f pr ' CpcVermouth
cehsured . hira ( Mr QIGorihoir ) .. for ,. his : i furious and Inflampatprj . jspeech , , whjle ,,: curious to sa ; y he used every one of big . arguments ^ but in milder tohea .-( Hear ,: hear . ) ' ! He would give them an ' ihstance of thE'manner-in- 'which ^^ 'gPVernnient prosecUtiohs'Vere got ' up . 'jAfe'ihP Lahcistef trials ; m ' 1 . 843 ,, ^^ whilel . the rig ht'h ' ori . baronet , 'Sir ' , James . Qrbna ' m , ,. > va 5 ; ' uppji ihe bencfi , " hei , ( Mr O'Cpunbr ) i * n ^ he ^ crpss-biattiiuar tfoh . of ^ pne-pf the principaV , w | tnesses , extracted . tbe facjt , ' tbat , ^ he said wi tness , together , with his whole farnilyyhad been liberated , ficm the workhouse for the express ; purpose 7 of ' inciting the : 'pedple to disorder There was- ' a policeman also examined ,, who admittedih & t hehad- transcfibed the' Words ' sworn
to teany month * after they were spPkeh ,. from ; the mbmoryof . one who cbuld npt write . Well , then , Was hot that power , enough , without , the infliction bfthis . . treaspnable . act ? ( Hear ,: hear . ) . The ( house had the ^ admission that , the progress of Chartism justified the minister ; in MsSppeal ; his . 'answer to that was , that those ) who" toil' for . a 'miserable sub srsterice ^ or-withered 5 ri -We' workhbiisei were , possessed with the conviction . that labour'is the source of all wealth' ; and . that' & 'biiltivation . 'bl ' .- the national resourbeVis ^ the . prim ^ ry [ d ' uty , bf . all governinents , an , d . they will iiot longer submit . jtoqsee ithe . lahdi of fhejc , icpuu . try a :. barren -wilderness and a desert , -Whiljelheyaveready'tomake it profitable by'thfe application . of ¦ their labour : ( Hear , heaif . )' ' The ; j
wil l ; not starve ; and see- theif familiesi starve , while idlefs 'fatesUinpttipiisly oil ; their ; toll ; neither will yepr trbasbh-bill -convince tlje labourer that labour can b e justly represiented by ' . nbhle . lords , baronets ; landiprds , and . ' squir j CS , with obsolete ; privileges ; to uphold ;; byVadmiralSj ; captains ,. and ( lieutenants in tha ^ a vy , with selfishinterests to serve ; by generalscolonels , majors , captains , and lieutenant ^; in the Array ; ' -by bankers , merchants ; tr & dersi ancl spebu )!! - torsj . by over' 100 ' railway 7 confra ; ctor | , ;' cha ^^ directors ; b ^ amstersj ^ pensioners , 'ind ;^ idle ' .: ' pau , p ' er ^ ' , ^ Hear , . , bearl ; and cheers . ) No i ' such a representation was not in-s . ct co rdance ; with the active genius .- of the present age ; Let ; the noble lord bear ; this fact in mind , that while
all . other countries : which have but recently , throWn off the yoke pf ; despqtism , are granting every point in the . ! Charter ,. hejis : tryingtoaTreJt its progress by making its open andiadviEed advocacy a transportable felony .: ;( Hbaft 'hear . ) ' ' How how could they boast ° i their people's loyalty to the throne , if expressions of contempt for the ministers were to he construedas treason against the ' Crowni . The ministers were the real , traitors . . ( Hear , hear . ) . The landlords feittiug ^ We oppp ^ tipn ; fe thelr pjj sjtioh ^ in tqis ^ barrjiarpus act , but he . ' caiifibn ^ d . them by what was nearest to' th'bir h . eaV ^ s , ithat , tendays more ; rain . and theirsun . . would set . ; ,. The wheat : upoh ; the coldigrouhds and ' clay
lands . was , alfeady perishing ; and he ' Bhould like , to know , whether'baiukrupb merchahts , traders / i shopkeep' ergi and an . UhemrilPye' ^' pebpibiwohid be able to spare ' tbiJty ; th ' ree itiiniqns . * np ^ t ypari , to ( supply > the place oif what jnlghi ! be . inprie : profitably produced ait hpine - . ( Hear ^ hear , ) ,. !| Ip had gone with his party , M ^ ' jh p- iwipuldiiStiil : go > yfith .. his patty i : throtigh „ . evil report and good ireport , ' until he 7 saw , a fair ; \ day ' s wage ; rfor u / ah-rday ' ff worh , and political powerrio secure ' and defend it . As the proceedings of'Monday hadbeeff repeated ' tb' sur / bit , 'he again Voiild ask , what 'obloquy , _ what' taunt and condemnation ; he wouid ' hot haVe . deseryed , if'he , had skulked ' . like , ' a Icp ' w ' ard ' ' ahd ^ uba ^ ndb ' ned , ' his party in the : hdiir ,: of he t 6
dagger , '' A ^ d p ?& iec \ there , aa he had done . plsewherie , that , after thesilly , and boastful threats by spmepoorgehtlemen—who were ' ' too- proud jo . morh ' f and itoo . uoor tolive withput- labour ,: and whose erder'had ^ fpretiihejePp ' ardisedChaitjsm- ^ that : thb ' gpyernbierit was'juB ^ ed'ih'takiijg ^ prfcautibnBry mea ' suresfor protection of ihe Mace . ; " ' ( He ^ r ^ 'Ay ! tiaiW . Slr . ip'OoftApV .. t ^^ f ^ ta ^^ ai ' chsisiv twit ^ 1 i ^ i 3 ¦ jii' ^ pi been for ' theuncpn ' si ^ tutibnal penance ' of ihe go ; yei ; nmehtr ^ no ^ threat to ' creatp ahi Wjiand the procession iwould have -i passed , ^ Iff as the meeting did . ¦ ¦ ¦ ^ ' ( Hear , hear . ) > ' J Buthe wBuld rpfbr toiprecederit /; of ' whicB the'hollsle Wag spfpfid . ' The hon ^ Tneteber-fpr lisk gatd'CWrG . ' BullerJ ' stated that Ireland-Was in a state of incipient revolution ! which
. [ nothings . ^ ut . the-authorilyail Mr O'Connelj cpjild repress , . and that discontent would , break out into ' $ & il ^^^ tHm \ W . ' thsn ' , with iWl ^ ifS ^^ fff-WSii nqt thegpyernmenfc bulpable jn . ? I lo . W Hgjthe , capse-Qf , ^ discontent to remain ,- instead of jrppQsbig , < remedie 8 ; ,, trj ,: avert ,. the . d ;& r , ger ; ^ '( Hear , -hear . )| JvBu . uaS thei danger . 6 f ; the na ' ssing ! tiWha'd heehidtedv ! heiwQuW-caHthe > attentiotfb'Fit hlB | house 'tcfcwordff which ^^ hsf ^ ein ^ useaby ' that ' dfebeasbdeen-, ! tternan ; iu ^ e ^ preiehce , 6 f hira ''( Jtiir ' ' 6 'tJuWn 6 r ^ He said , ' Iie ( t " nie"havi : a ''; Mtti 6 n : frpm . ' five ihuiidrbd , Unaerstan'd . ihatf , tbey -, ara dfiterminedi « , fiwhi ' '' £ l , i '
,, M . fey " buiphiy . ' -p / w /; pr ;) redres ^; . {!( HealJ , 'Heaci ) ' Bu ^ , ha . ye ; not-the Wblgiever beenrthepatronV ,. the abetvOrs i and ! ptonwters-iof-treason' ? '' - J Aha ¦ ¦ ttie , not their benches riow Jfllie ^^ ay / Wd ^ tiiar'pffic ^ . ioo , 7 witk'trkitdrs ' pt ' the ^ t wa ief ^' rltieiryh ^ } - "Hfe ' then'drew . . the attention ! , 6 t [' . the ,. Hq ^ sb in ; ifis fafetj ' ahditvyas ' utribil ; 'in ' ' point tothe . hrese ' nt state of riMa ^ n ;^ 83 ^^ ^ bber ^;^ ' propfietOT-pr iPAagageriOfithbi ^ fr ^ travelled ^ hf ^ ugW : § pojtiand : Wit i ' r ; al , 8 atap'Io ' of rrfiesj andl ' rec 6 minepd ed ' . fcho psaplBitQ-fiptabiishnRo' blubs , ; ( , ^ eaft . ' hear l . J ! , # ^^ the ' same to . wnv . usedilan ^ aKOueau ' aUviviblan ' t "Btit !
Instead of transpprtip & ithemy . y . oji gavdjBimainabaih , a w rpora | iion , ; an . d . pena | oned ¦ -yoU ' r < co-feloiis bpoh tbe fnd ' u ^ wads poor . ; .: ( Hew . ihean )?« Whattsaid Mb Att- ' cwppd , . inJ £ 39 , ' - in . hiii CA ? ri A'fionnor ? s !)! pt , esenceJ and before 20 . 0 MQ ' , mn £ he . saidy ' --Litiithem ^ refusS 7 the Pljarle ^^ nd with tthPvstamp ofLinyifoe ^ anailliPb ' ^ ngV'sn . h earts . iwill-jxeapoud ; i & nd ^ sh'ouldi . l :: siattb '; again , " 2 ^ dW )( A # ^ flgHsh arjn & i , w . ould :-. 'bejaise « l-l ' o ' its "'" eriFqrcproep t , i- / rffl & ru 'hearj ) ' ¦ :: w * i ! , ; - . what ' mpre ,.-yioIeni . laDgqage . ' : thfln :. ;; h 6 i ha . d - iquoted I hail- ' beeh ,. used ( pithsr . in Ef ) gland . oran Ireland ?' ' Once ' gag VthV . people , once , put ¦ 'fetters ; : upon- the [ free expression of pubUc -ppiniqnkiajid ihere ' . would be : an end fo thilk » 9 t of the BritiBb ,-: cbnstitutibi > ;^ - 'i'liaiv
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weuldfeihe :. effeot , of [ , thia : bill »! fbi twetild prevent men frmwealcingi i : k 8 tltheyr . Bh . onldvuiolateite ^ visions . For ,- himself , he A ould-ltove ^ Bpeabing i extemboranpauslyi ho . iwonld wnteihiBspeeohesi'an read them , iwtlAbonJi *^ - ^!?**^*}^* " ^'; pSnta to , fcheAttorr , ^ . ^ neral ^ fflaWwba 6 ti 6 e ' hophiesedof ; andlhe wouldadviBeiattGhartistor ' ator * toidotbe 8 ame , andhehoped wmehon . membbrw 6 nld move that they be printed in a bluerO 00 K , < . ' which would be mnph more instructive ttf the bousetharii many other booka * ,: ( Hear ^ he ^ anailaugbter ^ He aDDealedtb r he noble lord ~ who , after alirhewenld JBrseelt ' ;& p : head : of : : the ^ dverament . than . any other man , if / be ,. had , the courag 0 , tQiflarry > ouUhe nrinoipieathafche had taught ihe psopla to contend ( £ t _ notto -sully his bwin fair famei not . to . derogate from th ' reputation of hisancestors aslavera of free-i
p , dom , by the authersVipof ameasw ^ hke ««* .. « The . Reform Bill had . been ,: earned , but ; tbp , peopie were , inowlooiingfpriitaftuitsy » pA , * e trflsted : th 6 noblelord Would . Pot ,, ^ sappoiu . t » themI ) lJEhe hon . and leamedmeigber next decla ] rfled , again 8 . tth 6 . prinoipl 8 i ef centralisation , . coBtpndingi ' that . wbat the . people 7 wanted , and were determiqeditP . bave-, was- local bower . If he had given to thisbilL what : was called a factious opposition , ; itwasibecanee , hef regarded s » Ith-. terror the precedent that would . bjV . established for hpu . gentlemen , now on ^ he .. Opposition , aida . of-thd house ,: it they should vM pver ,,, tptbe , Treasury , benches . It ^ gag 6 ingb ^ J , ; ftOdH , W 9 uIdoperate as a gagging biUnereafter iU ' ppn . the , noble lord mat ' aelf , ' whenb . 9 sbjould ' he } nopppaition ... Beforehe 6 at down , he woiildi ' tell , thphpp . and gal ) ant ; member for
^ e 6 tmins &? r . ( 5 iri ; e ,, ^ ax > y , ^ van 8 ; ,. ap , irABnBneoaoiey very much i in ' uPointi ^ andi . at ^ ctly . iu jk ^ e ping with hm repudiation of ; hia fqrmer . pjinoiples , or , rather ,, ispe ' ebhes . ; - ¦ fhere- / was ., ' a ,, . farmer ^ ho y w ' h 6 gQtpenuiasibnfrQTO , nf , s raa ^ r-tp ; attend an . Irish fair , forafrglia j thfl , m 8 ? ter , gaye hini ; : balf » ai . ' crow , n , and lent him a norse at \ ft cart to . -enable thim . ' to . ireathisrhpth . er : ^? ai jaayTs ^ amnsement . When he changed Kis haif ^ prown , in a . tenjfc ,. ,. and . after / . her had spent ene shilling and . ^ ixpenee , ; ha , discovered t ^ a l ^ tjboother shil ) ing : was a , fprger ; y . ; He ^ went' ) iri , great d > Bmay , tp . the man , whpgave ,. h , imithebad : shilling , but the man denied . fbe cbarf e , , ' Thuahaulked of a portion of his fun , he . left the iair rather early , but not before a i < m had commetioe ^ , and in ptasing it-i ..-.. -1 . . ! _ -u ; ii . " ^ l . i _ -l . _« . _ 1 -. ii —™ .. ILJ l'i l aiUHa / tancuiim
_ urongu wmcu A Bliaj , ua n ., n « o : , : his mother aod killed her . Tbe police cama up , and , upon . uuMtibwg ^ in ] i : hQ . tpWtberfl that be . knew the mn ff & 6 . kille | l'hi Bi mother ,. i «« d- ; he conducted the police ' tothe tent , btthe . inan who ; gave . binr the : bad shi ! Hh » . 'Th ? m ' aD , hearing 7 ' the ( , ) rp . w , iWasjrim * nihgbacHhHrriedly tbhis'liept ; , whiph . gayean air of dredit , tb . the witness ' s jstpry ^ JLe . was . apprebended a ; ud ' brbughi , ta trial , b , u ' t fortunatply ; % ; him ,, / Baron ; J Pehnefatber ., wi « i % ^ h ^ 'd completely ppz ? tedlbpun « el , ; Barop Pen ^ efatberr " w % not 8 at 4 sfieU , w ^ th'li ( is , nio . de . ! flf &/ tPB evjdeape ,. ' He abked ' the , jvitness ^ ' Kbw ,, witness ^ upon ,, yborp ath ,. ' . ig that the , ;; Wn ; % &¦ $ ! $ ; ' yo ^^ Eipther : ? , ? , VWa mitnacJ iiintieiA if-, t . hp . nrigonef and . rflnliflni
* then , upbttpiy ' iQath ; . my-lo / dship , , tha ^ t ^ ej imaai that kilt my , moffier , sure enpugh / ., ; T . he Baron was p' ^ salisBedi . andhesaid , , ' ^ ow ^ . wjitueB ^ attend / t ^ , im ' e ; ' . '" Now , . witness , uppn . your . oat ^ , ^ l d ; you , s ? e ; the , ' prisbhef at the , ^' r , ihtbw ( the . s { ube that killed your , rae ther ft ';' , Thp . witpess . answered . ;" . Then uPQR-my : bathVmylprdjdiip ,. I Ib a ' n't-Pwpar ' th ^ t that ' s , the man , that threw ' . the ., Stone ' that \ kilt , n } yy ^ 6 iher , bnt' by theVar ' tu ; pf ' my . ' p ' ithjthai ^ . th e ' man $ , *} gayi & . me the ; bad 8 hiI » hg ' , ( apyhpw ^ . ( Hpa ^ p ' ^ iN pw ; the ' rabfal ; pf . ^ jhot that , tiie ' p ; riBbnpr „ has cominj | tted ^ jfelpny ^ b ^ tthat , fie . w as the man who wants 'the 'Chartsr jj aiiyhqw . . ( Great l « nnl \ taw \ ( To wnuld nnnfinno' tia Vintinmnnn ia ihin
' bSll ,. and , aeit ^^ app ^ ared . jtb ^ t , fle ^ . l ^ ajeat ^ s vQpposi- j tion .. had hbw . . peen , regularly ;^ md , cbnRf | itu ^ 8 na ) ly . formed , of whieh the ; h . bn . memp ^ po be henceforth their ,. lejid (| ri ~(^ laugh , )^ -he said , it i nbt tiidritingly ; . hut , ' iwhbspey . er , pi ^ ht . -peiheJ ^ ader ,. : it was to , b ^ h ' pped j ttiat the party , , w , ould show more ofreeolutibh ' and cbiiragethah theylhadj last , night , j whenithad Wb . ^ iswtMr ' . O'Opnhby . s ^ purnoBejto impewthe : prbgresa of . thp , bill * ' apd'fruBtrate . it ,: j £ , pbssible ; hy any mban ? , tub : forpi ^ of : the . hqusp . would allbw . ' It appeared , to him w * i , on , jtli % t , qcoaaion tho party , althoughranged . under , tMif nift ^ D ^ ^» -had , ; shown themselVbsr rather faiijt ., p' | f ,. thpi really , in-. fofriflarl ' jA enn /> aa > 1 ' Uxan'rrinat' ontfinifinrtfl' tfiaiB flnnn .
oittpn bra ; Vely ^ rifxbnti ^ . lirr ( Hc ' adJeui > ' Mr . Hbrsman , [ vJfc ^ . dderipy ,. Ifit ^ er ; Seym ^ r ,. ana .. Mr ,. Mitch ' . spoke , In ; f « LV , e , ur ,, of the third : feaolnfT . ., ¦; , „ , « . ' . . ' . . . '> . ¦¦ m ' ¦ < ' ::: -ha . - ; , ; " ( , Sir R . Test , supported the , government . in psrryirff this measure , which , in the peculiar , state , of the times , he conslnered te . fee nectfBsary . .. The maanlfieent demonstration , wade by the . jlbyalj and peaoeabje . on the , . occasibabftlie late disturbance ' : abundantly proved that the , public , opinion of tb | o , count fi ! was- ^ eoUedly ertj # i < i . ie . all great consMtu ^ nal . change ; ibot . ifi was , tbe ; . diily , ' of tne . gbyornWnt , and | of the ; , legislature to dp : their dtity , and show to the ( ibyaj and well-dlspoacd , that they were . determined ! ,. tomaintain the ^ fundamentalinsHtuiionspf ihe country , ;' ., [ Sir . Epb . eirt " in the cpnrse of , his ' jSpeeoli ^ made . an attacfe , upon the Chartists and , Mr O'Connor . ';] .
He . said :. The . question is , wbethqr ,. under . jtbe pircuin-, atance ' s of ^^ tfc ' e ^ ase ' , * , wlth ' , th 9 avowals ,, whi « h / haye been ] iaade , ! and vijfr the , iaflpence . of example inflther cpan ,. tries , it IsI , unreasonable . and ; unjust that fpri ^' llmlieQ ^ period , he who ,, by malicious and ad vised spealslogj . pbait try to induce .. thei people of this kingdom ; tojtffi ' ctcer . tain btje ' etsby levying war , shall be ; . Bubjeot ; tothe '; penaltits of . '' felony ; . ( Hear , hear . ) V confess ( I think it Isnpti ! , ( He « r , hear . )! i seethe language ^ used : ; 'I ob ' . serve the congregation of Immense , masses liable . io sedition , excitod for no . other purpose which Jean I ' mialne . thah that of intimidation .., Idraw a ' distipctibnbjitw ^ n the mere asaemlplagepf those parties—for tbpt does " not comb ; ' within ibla , bui-xand thatbffecce . tp . ; whichi this bill really refers ; but I look upon the . aBsemblfljfe . itself as a sym ' ptbsa of , the excitement of the , times ; bnd . alti i not ifiwior
. oagn . may ,. , ne apie so -ppnisa « oy ;^—w , faoyn ^ bt be ^' ad . flsablp alwaysteresort . tolavf . forty jjorpose of preventipg such evils—yet I , db . tblnfc that the ' con ' gregation'bf enormous naasees un ^ er . the pretext of presenting ;^ pstitip ' ns , is a practice f pr which thbeo whb tire the leaders of such an organisation are subject , ' if not . to legal , ' yet , to \ bo highest moral _ responsibility ^ 1 bapnot ' conceive ' for , what purppse-rrfertainly'h ' ot f « r ' the purpose ofencburagiDg tha ' dollberateconsHerailoh ' of that ifpr . which , they , wlsu ^ -1 cannpt ; concslvb for What ' parposb' those ehbrmoaBjnumber ^ , magninbd by ! Wpoirt far ; , beyond . their realarobnnt ^ . ( hejart : hear ^ nd taugbier \—navVVetubipugh ' t - togethir , pVceptthat of jnMidaupn . ;/ ( Henryne , ar . ) . $ ir , the honourable ibnd : learned ^ member " for Npttingliam ( Mr .. P , 0 'Codnor ); whpm I . ' . h ' uvp . iBlv ^ a ^ B , heOTd . espreas hlmseif ; herewith ^ perfect ttob ' d humour , hns ' disclalmed all intention of in ;
t ! mldatlop , aiid boa . repudiated ,: ! hopo sincerely ,-the least 'design of craatin ' ? , confusion and disbrdef : ; Bat while I give , tho honourable . ' and . learned-gentleman full crediti-fpr ; ' Bihcorl ' ty ' , iet mi telihJmjthat . & ose . whubring -together ' 100 , 000 parsons run . ' a very great risk . of creating disbrders .. ( Hear , hear ' . ) , , % ?» ihe honourable and learned gentleman ' s p rofessions of loyalty d , b Uot alto , gather g ' aiisfy '' me ,. Hp . sayfi ' 1 am ijp . party- to this ; allcged'in ' tmttbn . 'Ideprebate . tti ^ advise armlag , I am ; only ' for peaceable , and lpynlmeans ; As forestablishinE arepubiib , that I utterlsdiiolBim- I htajb besn foifyeatB " ; 6 ' b attaehed and ; faithful , servant of the ' r ' CrownVand as fbr' ^ eimpcraUo in » tltutibn » V * Ibeg thefhbnourabie and learned gentleman's pardan ? -. ^ ao for repiibiioau tustUutioris , ' — ( laughter ) , -- ^ ! l disavow . , 8107 1 thehon
dasire forthbniil ( Hear , heari ); ^ . Thilef ... ] and learned gentieinbi ' j ' hpwever , disclaimed such views , H is evident thatiUs ardent loyalty had not ' riiea so ^ o rjsry ; high pitch In' the ^ tbermbmbter of loyalty ; , fsr I thinlj be avowed that ; hl ^ ' ib jalt ^ " js " pf . ' sueh " a description ^ that provided he can g « t democratic iastitutiqaB , it 3 s , matter of indiffetence to . him whether or hot Bte '? obub be the BoHr ' eign of this cbuntryV ; ' ( Great laughter , ' ^ ,. Thls sir , I do' piPst ' cPi'diali y wiah ' , that When the heu ., aba learned gehtlemah , 'bfla '; got' the sovereign pt fclsjcn ' oice . 'he will have ' con ' ndeScb' . fn the ' ' ( J rbwni , ' ( Rbaw' of' langtitsr ';) Thou- » h the hpnouraWe arid learned gehtler ^ an say & that hp can mblhtairi ( ! h | s ! ' Jniueiic ^ ' bver ^ jkhjej ^ excited tsPUsendslbtid tbaB ; bf ^ ou 8 gn «* '; '^ ibmV » e : p ^ n to-% tthe ' 4 bybrb & sflipris ^ { a'Hsi ovl ^ n , wh ' lcbj ceitsr nut
not reiuacaruy , ou sue quoiBiion or own worae , he ^ s'led' to ^ Vov ^^ it ^ ppear ' ii ' thot ' h'is-io ^ alty ccfii & lfeta In'ihdifferettwJ ' ai' W'Wethefthb Pejje . ' thb ' Tretender , or sha Davil be the adverbigni' ' ( Laughter ead ihee ' rs ' . j Promthie point thehoni'fcaronet paeseiToa' to IFranceand thie I ' seclsl doctrines' new . adveoated in that ' oopn- ' try at the present time . , I , mako „ no reference toftiie ' po * liticbl events ' , that-, arBlpa 8 syg"lninnp ft 9 , »' i P <> . n » , l y . My ^ rm'beiiefis . that . t ^^ eecaV . lty . efievery . ^ go' ^ tnm ' eaf 'd epend ' s , pnonriglilabstinence , . fr , o , m ; any ; linteifei- J enceyi / m Wba > ' ft , psa ^ nj ; „ in . r *^ ce * ( Chwra . ) ' ¦ We " . ¦ ' Biiy ' Matntoln ; ouKpJ * jP .: bplnie , ng . pa ^ a , t ^ 1 Ihave mine . But I Believe It to b p essential to tte peace of the world and ' to ' tli ^ ' . otaljility * pf ^ overnm ^ nt that the 1 . . r . nJ , ' ' rliniiiH / r frt Vrtihetfi' oVitli ' Knoi .: S ' tKit *
trial • wiihoot" bilag - tmbarraeitid " ofdisi ' nrb ^ , by '! eintinslo '' ikterveStlbh ^ ' * ( fcbuil "' M & ii ' . \ '' fe ' u ' t ' aV' thb- sam ^ ttmt , ' Wlth ^ re ^ ecs 'to ' ' 4 p ifial' ^^^ rln 'b ' loies ^ 't' n ^ us Vs ^ 'thisV 'that ! ' hope ' ' the ' v ^ oVM ^ - clasBesi ' of ; ' ^ h ' iip - " cb' ^ rit 5 rjriWlis . n ot' fe ¦ deidded *" by the dpcj ^ lfa ' cs that flrb ^ Id . 'Uppn ' t & at subjeot wnfch ' ihaina ^ er ^' conc e rnB t ' bbl ^ . the vrtgee'of labour . ''( jtbud'bhe ;^ that are : therb ' malhtainea'be Vuejlf th ' jre be' lhsieed-iJh antse-tfDlsm \> bStw ' ebtf ' cdplrai ,: an'd 'iabyDV ^ h ' s be ' i rVne ' that all nrtn , Withbu ' t r tferetfce ' t ^ tlrei ? dltferenV esp ' abf . lltiea- dl & sr * flt 6 treB 8 ttt 1 'aa'a " ' d {^^^ to i , hBv , e . ? flitie irojif ormuJaTapplied' to'themy 'adff all to rW ? eive : the eamewdaliyitrages ^ -if th'egef thibga hp ts ae ' jjieu aUitha lexperiencoiaSad / atts 7 the ^ lights ' oftheeWi
160 years have icxisted In 7910 * «( Cheers-, ) f •' -LotrH'burn . . thftworkBnfiTurgot ; Spy , BMiAdBm-. gml ' th . i . ^ ifetlJus .-establish . in . triumph i-thedoetrinfss-of thi MiBsTssJppii ^ s ^ heme , . and , ; tho ! dPotrines . ofi . thatLaW ' - 'Wfab - waB ^ appo ssdi ^ to : inTOlT !& Branoei . irci mlsdr * . ' hadUcdnfuslon ; fhoudebesraj . Irit ; Us ! , ^ fl | tifor , tho . ii ' eiiult 8 , pfthis .: fex «' - . P ^ M ^' iiii W-B < $ Ms . cpntesnpl ^ e . i . iW ^ BtbM : it i * P- ? W »>! ( 'haj e ^ puHve . gpy , ei ; nmenls-fian ; bj ? ,. 8 re ^ moiiiiv M" ^ ' ^^^ ' ^ - ^ r n ; : ' P . 0 ? eibl 6 , Jo ' ra u ^ . ^ LfflfflW , . . ! tfi ! . e . tnpjoy !( .- , indna « ^ wheti 4 r ! fthoy . i f . ?? J 8 tof & 7 W 9 - tfrfyAwm wf . i . JPwRldeuefci hand-^? u 6 p all .,: fle ° v- ^* r »» = 'W ferenee . . tob-habitp ^ d * - ' & mj > i .-m ^ . 7 tbp , jame ,, wag - eSi ,, ;{ cUr 5 . / . ;* k Mh »* « :-,. 0 W .. i . A » V ,:, j , Wtol ., | Mlp & ' ¦¦ thL W Jfif-f 7 * ? . -ttW # W »*?¦ » W * o We given to thepolitL- ; caf principle , ( Ohecrs . ) B . uJ .-J . do , * wwfiBy . . . tl ! ustwI ft ^ y PV ^ tem ta , the . ieciA . sense , -pf iueiWDiklnc chmiei'ihla country-tnat they will Wlhve ' that to
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false delusion bt'tbe ' . c'b & phls ' or ' yUhiirVbg of profits , no ;< snm ! fy direoted ^ aihit-c ^ tB ^ fio ui ^ incHU bfcpttOBItition anidn ^ lUdlvfdiials , nb ^ erpbWerib ' gpf iadlvfdual ¦ enterprise * y government uidertakfags at the publio ex . r ieuaei f canT > P 8 « iblyb ' e-Tor the ben (' efit''bf the working clasifisy or : have any other hltlmafe ' rosult thaa n isvvalylnif ¦ ¦ themlh mlseryaiaa rulh 7 ; ( Ilbutt Andebntin ' ubdcheetlniE ;> Upon'the political prlb ' cljjtieal prehbuhce ' nb' opinion ; but itwouWbeashRmefulsupp ^ esWbribf ' thet ' ruw ^ rogatlng to ourselrbSiop iUuclfo ' f t ^ el ( Berty ; bif jpaech ^ not , iSOpredietfetal-consequencfea'tP ' thiP ' se ii / blal ' experlmeatB fnOw . fn progress inbthei ' cPuhfrfeij . ( tondfcbe . ers *); , Sir , . I havp bssndlVMtsol'fof ' a shWt time ' te'bm . the , lm «
teidlate . objeotBlofihisbhr ; - ( Cheeri : ) vlbeHeve ,, a , s , I ) hava stated , that there are pplit 5 calgrbunas'fbt 'ib ^ s temporary Inoreasete the duth ' orlty 7 Pf the " government , .-Iwi ^ l not attsmpt te force'on ' thb eiecPtlvegbve ' rBlmbrit any powers they ddfno « irequlrb , '' -AUthi & l t h ^ bhbW to ; de ? d , ! wlt , b , lB the Question whe ' ttie ^ fdr two yefart /' hewlidineites people to intimidate ithe legislature , ' uot'by ' wbrdsj but by . ; deg ) srations of war , shall be subject to'thbUorial ' ties of felony . tthiufethecli'eUmstknces'df ' thetimejnsiify ihe demand . I believe the pdopte of 'ihitfednritry will b ' ebbcburagiid to tbeeontiauance of . ttiose exertions upen which ^ arid ' not upon-police , nor upon armies , thetranquilHty , if ' n'bVthe safety , of this Jeountry' "deptnds . ; ( LPtid and continua ' d oheerlnpi ) .: ¦• .. > . ' ¦¦• < " , . ' . !¦ ' :-: ¦ ' ' ¦ ¦ ' ; - ' - ' ,
, : Mi- Bbioht said he hoped th ' 6 house'Would ript ^ prg ^ t , thf tt . therlghclion . barohbt , - she" memberfor , iamworth , had , in the speech just delivered , confin'dd ' hljnseif , f hen supportingtheiBjeftsare ^ toapprbring 6 f itfor afllmitbd ' and temporary periods But ,- while thehotfse retaembered this , he trosted they would also bearln ' mtBd ? that ; the . responslbleadvlserB of the Crtwii' bad ' o ' rigiri ' all ; intended , zth & ttMs provision of--the bin" shoal 3 be'pernionent and perpetual ; - * He readily admitted that 'the billinlt * pas-^ age th rough that-house had been ' iinproved « b & r'hecould by dO meads admit that that improvement wq ' s in any degreoiowlng 7 ro , the government , and ne , thefe ' fbre , d ^ uled . thatltbey were entitled ' to any thanks for , f he changes which had been ' effected ; ' The right hon . baronet , the ^' member for Taihwoitbi ih the speeca ' whleh . ( the house hod heard , joined with th ' ose who harf cob . ' . demnedthe' priotiee' Of tailing together ^ reat assen :-ibiagefl . of the people ; ascending to breochej ! of the peape .
Upon , that there could be scarcely a' second opiriiph . They . oJlagreod to that ; ' Bnt Jet the right honi baronet look back a little to bh own carter , and he would see that that species of agitation wa » sometimes altogether unavoidable . 'Soma nlnetaen or twenty years ago the ' rlgbj-hon ; haronet was opposed to the measure known B 8 : ; Bi > raan ; Catholic-Emapcipfttion ; at tbatf critical menwne the Dako Qf . Wellington teld-the world that If conecjssionsiwereiiot osade to the Eoaian Catholics apthlBg could avert a civil warv hence it might falrl ^ bp eaid that the Eaeasuro of relief 49 She Kotnan Catholics of Ireland woo one which ' : bHd bean-yielded solely under she influsHce ot terror . - - ' 80 much for the concessions then tnad ^ toj . thedeiiiaadaof : thelrlsh' peoplo' What had been the case with regard . to the tuoasure of Parliamentary . Reform ! ; The noble' lord ' at' the head -of ^ ho government-rno / oneAlinewiit betttr—could tell the house , thnt . at first : the . 'demand for reform was most-re .
maraably modarate ,. but as time-went on the demands of the Reformers increased ih weight 7 'and intensity . The . g & me . 'histGry might be told of the measure by which the Cpsn . Laws-were repealed , Dpoii that Important qdes ^ , t } ou ; p , arlUmcntjieldedto apowerful end well-directed organisation- ; famine threatened , and parliament dared : npt ; pny longer resist . iByiUQh- 'intaBft hnd emancipa tion , reform ,. and free «* radoheen carried j be therefore entreated 4 hem to recollect thai , as members of that hpnsp , they were bound assldaoasly and earnestly to look into and examine the grievuncegof which the IrigVpeo / pieppmplained , ! with a view , to' Immediate and effectual
; rpdr . ei 8 . ; ., Inrth » t part ofthe country where' he resided jtiie workingicifisses were mere numerous than in any btjier . diotrictof the . united' kingdom ; and he felt himself fnUy . warranted . In sayingthaf amongst them communist prlflcipJes had obtainod -no very ' great nnmber' of vo . taries ,, yr . b * . n the people in any part ofthe country were . djstressed , they naturally and eagerly turned their at , tention to any , opcolea of change which afforded them a prpspectof relief fbut it , waionly , tea very limited ek . Aent that the doctt ices « f communism had b 4 en received , iDppn . su « b symptoms . however , tlwy ought not inipli ciUy purely , It , wao : true that recently , in Manchester ' , there had been a demonstration in favour ef good order ;
hewpuWaaya demonstration as much to be admired and . opproved . as any thai had elsewhere besn displayed ; Jilt . truth required that the house shonid bo apprised of this , thst the people of Lancashire : would- " not range . tbemeelresoa tho one side or tho other If the orgeot were fne ' rely foprtyent an expression of opinion . Such were the aeBttmonts which ha . conceived to he prevalent in thenorth of JSngland geoeiBlly , and he hoped that the knowledge of tbfir eslotcnce would not be lost upon tbe government . He hoped it would he felt both" by Ministors and by parliament ; that the claims ,. which many of those persona urged , were , reasonable ' \ that it- would be -reasijnao ' le ' to eK ( bndlhe fr . a ' nchl 8 p from the limited num . hers * fcho ht prespt enjoyed tbat . prhilege tojhe 5 , 000 , 000 or . e / OU ^ OOO who we ' re ; widiout it , but whp earnestly desired its possession ; it should bo estendod as , fast as the nusiber of those persons inpeeased who desired to 7 share it s action and to . partite ot the blessings which it affo ' ided ; , ; ' : ' . v ¦;•' ;; .. '; , ' ; ' ;;; . .. ..,. . ' . , .- ; ' , Jfr . ' UnNTZ repeatea . hls oDjeotloas to the bill . ,
, Lord J . RpsBSLt briefly adverted : to the : different objections urged by the : different members ; against this bill , which , he believed : would tend much to the Becurity of the peape . of the empire .. He : then-referred to " the espiting and infia- ^ araatpry language used' in Dublin and other parts ot Iceland , observing . that it might in some part ^ of the country lead to outrage and insurrection ; but that outrage-and insurrection . would be put down , b ^ cauBe the -government had the means of so doing at its dUpesol / in the lojalty and affection of the people , and in . thefprce ofthe army , whose :, fidelity had been most fpully and systematically belied in . variaus ways , both in ' and , out ofpasliament ; Ho-then proceeded to state that immediately . after EtiBtsr tbe house ' wonld proceed . to t ^ e dtscuBBipn of . mea-ures which related ib the
cbllttca state of the Irish population . With reference to the Befes ) of the Uni , on , his lordablp thus delivered himself , 1 must beg to allude fpr a . moment ; to a debate , which Was necessarily interrupted , andito alleged - grievances , which are now stated as a ground foe aiking the people of ; Ireland to resort to arms , ; Wewere asked the other ^ ay to , consent to the repeal pf . the eiiating union between Epgland and Ireland . Njw , on looking over ( he acts ^ nd / discuaslons of-th e parliament in Ireland—that parliament , which has been referred to as one which g avb happiness and contentment to the country , and which ; If it had continued , would have secured the prosperity and . liberties of the people—I find thatapme of the most distiDguished men in IielsRd ^ haying , at their ; head Mr tjifattan- ^ -a napie ^ never to be 1 mentioned without honour •—repea ' todlyBtatiag in ( h ' atpariiinusnt of IielanG , thr . t
the whoie ' . vemmeat was carried ; on . by ,. corruption—' tfiataimoBt the ni ' ejorlty , ' if notall the m * jirltypf that parliament , received pansiohs during pleaoure and salaries frpm the c ' rown—^ hat . peerages were sold , and that the whole government w ^ ' ek a . »»?» , of , Bslfishne ' and of boaght eu ' ffrbges in support , of . . ^ e , government . I find , that'llr Grattan likawiae declared that ^ the . suffrsges- of Ireland in regpec ^ to . the election of members were sold '; tfiusin some borpbgli f there . ; wifre paly ten ) vp , t ? rB , la another bnly " twelve , ' pud' Jhat fhe " . reform , of parliament was ' abiPlateiyh ^ ees . sB ' ry . '• tfjiud Mr . Q rattan , In referring to the details of the mode of colltcting tithes in Ireland , . ' obser ' veu ,-iiind hlsbbBervatlon was enforeed by great elpqUeUce and amaisln ^ ^ vigpdr Pf language , —that every farmer and peasant in the country was subjected to
the dreadful grievance of a ' subortlnatloa of vulttireBi ' He likewise urged that the ; great proportion ofthe people Pf Ireland ; riemely , those professibg ihe Koaiaa Catholib feithi' were , debaited . from ^ riviU ^ eB which the Protestant : BdbjbctB ^ bf thdt kingdom enjoyed . Let us consider what those grieVaBcebwcrej as etated by one of the . most elbqueh ' t and ablP of the patriots of . Ireland , and what tho parliament of the United Kingdom has ' alncpdonev : Wth' respect to peerages and penstenB i no such abuee . uow exietu oa was then' stated , tfe onewlll say that , auythiEg similar to that which iir Grattan BtOjted , .. whether justly er sot , to 'he an existing - grie . vancein his time , ia now to . be witaeBsad ., As tp lith ' ss , tha " dutnilbn has been BettleMn ; Buch a manner that it ia no longer 3 ( grjevpnee to the ponsh ' ntor the . farmer .
j . JV'ith . respect . toiKeforiB Pf JParliamenti that question has ' U } i 8 w ^ a , ; l ^« n ' car ^ ed-i . n ; vho united . PflrllatueBt ; With respect to Roman Catholic relief , and the admiwlon ' of Jtom , an CatbolipBtotheprivlIegeBiof . the constitution ^ , that queatioa has iiike ^ leeibeen ; carried : in : the united , PArliament . Why , then , wa have at least this prosump-1 tiqp infayouref . the , unlted .: P «! -liani « nt , — that-those which were stated to be the greatest grievances while the Irish Farltament laetedhavo aimiabaen redressed by a parliament „ pf . the ; Unlte , d Kingdom . ) ( Cheers , ) : If . this , then , be the case , — , if tlaeso- grievances : have been iredreasedby the Pailianient . of the , united kingdom ;—if , as I believe , the Parliament ot the ,. spited / kingdom : is able to legislate fe 5 , Irclwd- «» Rre ; ndrantageou 8 ly fos . th . e ppoplepflrelflnd i endmlth : lees :. change of hostile colli-Isipnlwithjhia PAuntryjjflr ; of diaoordramong , 1 he varloBB claflftjBBj ^ . than .-the ; .. ? 6 « llam « tit )! ofiiIreland , could do , then IshQwa say , apart from all iopeiial intereBts , that
vj ; e arp bound to , withstand all thbie , ; meafiUrtB ,: in . what ., ey ^ r / ormthey ; may ; appear ^ iwhiou hava . therepoalof tip legl 85 ailye , uiiion foT ; their ;«> VJei ! i > : let anylhoa ; t 6 e » A ^ er briPg . fvrw ardBMPhpreposltionBarmay .. tehd , in . Ws q ' pjnfpn ,, < tp ; th , o ^ aptsge : pf Ireland { 'iind . tPany propo-^ iilou whichniay , be supportedlAy-. theigreat -w ' ajorUy qf . tt ^ p . ^ ej ^ vmeni . ber ^ naming for . its . object ta improve the f lavj | i . pf ] thepottp . Uyy ; th ^ . brjtoljcpmbve . , a . ny sbclaf ; qr ;^ political , grievance '; un , dw , . W } £ ch . % y ' tn | nkr ., they . l * bpur . i ! l-: shall be ready , to : | i 8 t ? B ; ' " jiiat ' , by . j . dlsppSBipn ,. Ml-thn ' . cholee . - should , he / beiarg ; Um ^ t . an ; d ,, dth . 4 teJn , P < rliamen . if , ; pn : the . coptrpry , the . moaus , ohooen , should he exciticg thepeople tqAr ^ . apd tb . m ' easurijB . of : fovea rfrthea ; by ; ifbr , c ^ if neoe ' ssary , I . wii ( i s . s . long : ^ . there is-any breath or life , ^ n . ' . ^ e- - | pfppsp , th , % reBt ?^ of the legislative ; union . ( Lou , ^ . ffee ^ fedV ] -ry-Wt ip T ¦* ¦)! . 01 -1 H-. ; V / : j ' .. ¦ i , . 'EhQihouBe thendlrtdcd , when'the j wUr ' e-u lr , iJ : wJtf »; the ; tbird . readWg ' ' -V .. :-x-i ¦ ^¦' - ' ^ m ^ . -v .,
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be omitted . W eoajldered . that , if the ^ govtrmn ^^ ivUh ^ WfrcVeHt tke toecti ^ i'tf MNational c !^ f , "i the ' y ' Had ampUpdicer' to do so ' . tinder $ « 57 ^ q . ^' on iM , as ' ii ^ iwse « K ^ t ^ t ' ppw 6 r ; W'thi , ughi the » at -S haveexeniiedit . He ai ' ree'd ' 'Mi' htost'imp rl ^ 'fo guage h ^ dbemffMd . ia : lreIa ' nd "} f 7 Mfc '' h « would hlL ithegevernmenttoUttfeoBeiWhuhaau ' sedsnchi « ' i 6 ft ' waste their bieath ! A- ' ( cries 0 f ¦ OB ,-oh I' ^ a nd t Baga : i 8 ntta ? m 6 * lvsS'with ado ^ tirig « u < ai proceb'din * ° " sheie . pertonsiaB ' warev auth PrI « ad"by ' . thV- ' exiL " ' * , Ho would' not : tah « " thai isettse ef the Hddae ok h \ t m - % ¦ M > ltvcpinlorihad ^ UBt beed fexpreBsed'b ysoiar „ g 0 , ioa i Jo « ltS , ; but ; he . wlthBdi . t * put pn *& eor " d bJa pbtenn ffia * , tbiBclause . ' -i-. ' . ^ -:- : •• • ¦ ¦ : ¦• ¦ > : ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦' > ¦ - / . ¦ : "Wint v Mr . gjBBSMiEr . beggedforhlmeelfj ' arifon beh . i , his constituents ,- who- -with the' eSceptfoh of afe oi . ffont . ' . oallinff . themselves Cnartistgs—wehS unanim * per' ' . thtit-. oplBlonBiUoithaukHhe ' tiobld- ' lord ' a ^ the h ° T the government for bringing forward-so energetic J ° * sure ; cfor- 'pressrviug : the pea"Pe ' aBa tr ' anquiUit , ^' country . . vA .. < > h ,: >< h , ? .- " i'f " i ; - ^ - v , ' otth 8 , ,.. Thj amenam « n , Vprpp . psedbyjMr ! HcMB . wa 8 then tte tlved . without o ,. , diyision ,: ao . d thp motion ; 'that thinT 11 dp pass , ' , was agreed to amid cheerB . from both sid » a » the . houses . ¦ .-, i .-.: •' ¦ " ¦ :- . ' .,-: ' -. ' . . ; os "' Thbslttlng otthe . h , puae-wfl 8 then , at a ' quarter nr ,.. j fvur , 0 ' clocl ; , s . uflpended until half-past five , ; At , the . adjourned . sitting ,.. j , .-. •' .. ; ' . , ^ , A . . $ ? , 4 ? PE . p moved that . a . new , writ be ordered m issue . fpr . J 3 orsham ln . tbo room of , Mr Jeivij
After a discuHipn the motion was . withdrawn sndSl » J .: K * NMEa obtained leave to bring in a WU to ' s ptwitt c . ommiBsionersip inqnire . -intQ the existence of corrupt practices at ejections for , certain boroughs , ' ; f ^ Mr , Bobvesip obtained leave to bring in a bill t 0 M , ablerelfgipUB . cpngregatipnB to , obtain sites for churchy in Scotland . t ) - .,:. . . ,. -. . , . .. ., ; , - ¦ , .- _ - urcneB .. Mr BErHoiDsobtained leave to bring in s bill to aba « rish . thp prpeess of attachment of goods in Courts of Re cords of the . munielpal borporatlona of : Ireland . , . On „ the motien of Mr REYKpLns ^ the Kunicipal Corpo . rations ( Ireland ) Bill wbb read a second time , Sir 6 Grey Btlpulating that the bill should notgo . lnto commit ! tee until the government measure on the same subject should be before , the house ,- :- . ; , ' . ; The house aijo . nrned at a . quarter past eight o ' clock , .. , WEBKESDAY , Apait , 19 . "
HOUSE OP ¦ LOnps : —fat Oxcana -feItt . _ T h 8 Lobd CHAHCBttoa moved the' second wading of the bill for tha better ; tecarity oif ihe Crowix anb-Oovernmeiit ; of the United XtngViomV ' - The noWb and ' iearned lord shortly glanced at ' ths aels ' of ' those' who ^' rbfeesed to be friendsxif the ! people and of liberty , bnt who were the . enemies of both , » nd wKoaia cdndue ' t ino . de the jmgBing of some such law as that how proposed absolutely ne . cetsary , Thfrdanpr and diiturbaHcb of the public neaee arose , In this country and Ireland , aatoiy-from opeu and deliberate ineltemeats te- ' treasoa and sedition and therefore , to put an Pad to such practices -was amain " portion of the bill , ; ..... * - ' - ¦ ¦ ¦ ' ¦ ¦ '
Lord Stawlet supported the bill , * r did Lord B ^ opQHAH , who btgged to give a salutary warning : o the newspapers ; . there was no doubt thaf-Patliament had certain piivilegeB by which they could protect themselrea within d ^ prs for whatever they might utter , but kt * ° : W *» P . B » WPOrtcr . or editor : have the ' notlon that whateter might be said in Parliament he 7 had a right t o report and print ,, for If It was-, treason he was as liable to bepnnlshed for it aslf he hadTbinwjf invented it t and this might also baa warping to thbie who were daily printtngnnd circulating treason and sedition uu tered in diffarent parts of the ebuhfry . If they prohibited seditionr-and trebsohfrom being utteredin . tne National Convention and similar places , what signified it whilst in tho other Bouse ofTirlia ' nicbt such language might be uttered and afterwards printed , and sent forth to the wnil . ? ' '• • ¦' - ¦• : •¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦¦¦ '¦
-< XsrdC ^ HPEEM admitted that the bill would not reacb , Mr Smith Q'Brien in the 7 treasOnablia speechie made is the House of . Commons the other'hfght , or lbs reporters , . editprf , - . and proprietors of newspapers ; aad -he . should-, have-been , ashamed ofthe bill frit had had such anyeffect .,, Jf any member within the walls of Par . Uameat spoke sedition , ortreason , -he musfbe answer * able for such offv . nce there . ' One « f the hfsstbutrageoua . ' attempts ., tae ^ de by Charles the" First , a « d that whieh was probably the msiiBcause of bringing him to- the block , was thpprpsecption of members of parliament in courts . bflewfpripeeches . madein their places in parliament . JHe did not believe that tho . publication of the spscchts which had been alluded to had gfvenany eneouragtmeirt to the crimes which they sought to indtigate ; on the contrary ; he , though , tf ; fhey had had '«•' strong tendency te
roufle the spirit of order In the minds ef BngH « hmen ( Hear , hear , ) Heirould . be the last to wish to punish any one'fbr giving faithful reports of the proceedings ia parllamenVfprhehsd Introduced a : cUnfle into bis bill on , thelaw ; pf libcl r mahlngoaly the printer and pub . Usher of . the newspaper Iiabio ; and his noble and learned friend opposite ( Lord Brougham ) had ' supported thatbill . ( Laughter ;) Thop ' erson who gave a ItmfLde and hpne ' a . t . repostof what took place' was surely exempt from imputation ,, and oujtht not to be liable-to punish ment . . C Hear ,, hear . ^ He hoped the . bill would he effi cacious for the ' purpbse for which . it wai ; intended , natnely ; tor restrain ' seditious ' and . treasonable speeches made in the Na ' tional- Convention , as it was termed , Couciliati'Sti Hall / aiid felmilar places . ( Hear , heat . ) He disapproved ofiord BIdOn ' s bill in 1736 , and he still difa
approvedof it ; butitdidnot follow from that he should disapprove of the present measure ,. the object of which was to ' reduce tb the crime of felony a crime which had heretofore been considered high treason , and to extend it tp Ireland . There ; was a clause in the bill ; by which whatever was declared treason under the statute of the 25 thpf Edw . IH .,- was still preserved as treasoa , He denied that any new pffencewas created by thehill . The noble and learned . lord opposite ( Lord Brougham ) criticised the language of the third section of the . bill , but it was' toridem i'er & ir the language of the 36 . Geo . Ill ,, which was itself taken from the statute of Charles II . He would bethe last person ¦ to consent te a measure of this , kind , i £ he thoaght-it would in the least interfere with fair ; and legitimate discussion . ' With : respect to the conviotioh of Mulr and Palmer , he thought itjivas hot accord .
jng to law , but was entirely contrary to law . Their sedition consisted in making temperate speeches in favour ef the Reform Bill 4 and his noble and learned friends had made , he would noksay more Violent but certainly more animated speeches . .. than those for which -Muir and Ptlmer ' were sentto Botany , day .: Under , this bill open and advisedspeakiDg ; would not constitute an offence . To constitute ah offence ; une ( er this bill it should be ' opir * hud advised speaking , * with the' view , of compassing the deposition i > f the Queen , or levying war against the Queeni . or , compassing ; or . planning the invasion ofthe Queen's dominions by a foreign force . And he would ask , was it not right to prove these offences by open and adV Tised speaking , ' . ' .. ' . ' . ¦ -, 7 The Duke of Wellington saidhe fully approved of the bill . ' ( Hear ; hear . li He concurred in the opinion that some measure was necessary for the purpose of making
the net quitejSu / ScientiD order to' Oppose some -check tothose great and gigantic meetings , by . which this country and thefsister kingdom have been disturbed for some years past ! - ' They Were ' tit 'last come to that stage that the lawwas 'despised and ' condemned by every _ 6 ne _ of thoso persons whelbrOke'tt . This contempt ofthe law was ruin , ing . this . country : day by day , and destroying that respect forit ^ whichhad been . its characteristic : for ages : The country . was . comipg to that-state that it would be of no authority , arid then there would be no means ofenforcing ihela ' w except bytheuse of physical force " . . " He warned their lardships against iilloWmg their country te come to such , a state of things ' , if they wished tbpreserve Its character and the institutions . He hoped that thebill would pass unanimously , and . in the shortesfcspace of time , ia ordpr , that the . government might put it into , operation immediately ;; . ' . ; . " . :
• LordTJEHjttN expfesged the highest admiration for tho noble duke , but thPught himmistaken when he said that there was : a growing contempt for the law ; nothing , scfar as bis observation- wont ; , could be further from thoreal character , of the English peopl e . The Earl of $ , t Germans said ,, astb ' open and advised Bpeaklng . 'he thought . the mischief of the ' gpeakinsr wasextremely Bmalti compared With that done by the v ^ blteation . The National Convention and the Irish Confe . ieration-. werebutsmallbodies ; but their proceedings were read by great number * . - It was true the editor * ot newspapersexferciSed j aspunddiscretion in suppressing pas-Sages unfit for publication . } , apd'he thought it that discretion were continued ,: it . would be successful ia preventing any bad ' effeetii In cases where such discretion was not exercised , let the parties be prosecuted .
LprdiCAitPBSLtsaid , if . seditious and trea « onable senti-. men ^ ts . were published , for , ihe ; purpose ot . giving effect tc » them . ' thaVwaBa ' h ' ghly culpable misdemeanor , or it nilght baproseciittduridsr the " present bill ns an overt net *' for compassing ; -the deposition of tpe . Queen . An editor of a newspaper publishing n treasonable speech with sach nnintovt , might tjins be prosecuted and transported beyondthe . seas * -..,:--.. ; ; , - ^ ¦ >;' . .... v .: -, , ; , The : loBp . Cn AKCBjr , ioR , trus ted ; the , . effecb oCthis' biH woplfbe to Stop the . spqakihgi ' and , then , of course ' the publication would W-atppped . The bill was then ' rea'da second time . ,: : 7 : The Election Recognizances Bill was then read a third ) time . - / . - >¦ % -.-: -, ' .. ' . ' ; -. ' ' --. ¦ ¦ . ¦ -. ' ' ;'¦; ; ; ' : ¦ ' .- ,- . -..-J
; Their lordships theu adjourned at eight a ' clpck I )" . HOiJSB OF . COMMDNS .-CouisE bp ^ PoBtic Bushier f ~ 33 ^^ JT ^ M \ MP . ^ h > reply to a ; question from IfrEwart , stated that the government had received information , - which he was ' not -at liberty to disclose which / rendered tbei introduction of 83111 for the removal of ahen . sueeessary « though ,, as . such a Bill watfeontrarv tp . theordwarypollcyftf Oils couptry . it would be only a s ^ mmM & as ^ irs ™ 3 ^ iv gav / ?? tioe of * he order in whifcli he proposed tb proceed witothe gdverhmeht -measure after the JSepeSBi , . ; ; . ! , . ; ., ; ,, : ) ; J / ls ;; ., D ; . ' . - ;; : j ; , ..- ^ .. ; -.-- ; ... o ^*^ WQti , 0 . ntliatitSeih 04 iB . eiat itsrieing , ndjourn to irf ^ . , ^^ . ^^^ *^^ wig . HolateM-question ; - ¦ : ' ¦¦ " ¦ •• -- - —¦• - = , i ; nw \ ,: ,. r . r . tHUk ^} it , ^ , iiE 2 i Ml HOUSE OT'LDUpgitCr ( owN I >) i > i 3 ov * BliHENT Siop MTVi Biit . _ on'the motion" tliait ! this bill b'b ' read a thirfi t » me . A >< :: rf « i \^ .:. ;! : ¦ ::: U ,:: i--:-i v : ^
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Northern Star (1837-1852), April 22, 1848, page 8, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns2_22041848/page/8/
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