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July 21, 1849. THE NORTHERN STAR. 7 !¦ M...
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Progress Of The Cholera. The Cholera Cas...
fender the notice of the House of Commons last poiglitby the Hon . F . H . Berkeley , one of the mcmjbers for thc city , hut also amongst the ranks of the initialing and npper classes . In the district of St . fPsal the disorder has assumed the worst and most malignant form of Asiatic cholera , death supervej Venins : iu a very few hours , and the corpse almost Immediately becoming perfectly purple . Sir G . Grey stated last night that the facts mentioned b y the hon . member ( Mr . Berkeley ) were much exaggerated . S | r George evidently has had nothing in the shape of eorrcct information laid before him , and I can state on the authority of Dr . Fairhrother , one of the physicians of the Bristol General Hospital , that the facts so for from having heen exaggerated actually fall far short of the reality . The total number of deaths in the Rackhayhave exceeded 30
in the neighbourhood of Rcdeross-stvcct from IS to 20 ; and -in Rosemary-street , Water-street , Philadelphia-street , & c , which are also adjacent to crowded burial grounds , the deaths have not been fewer than 20 within the last eight days . In the district of St . Paul ' s It is impossible to arrive at the total number of deaths with anything like certainty , hut the cases have been very numerous , and nearly every instance has terminated fatally within a few liours . One lady was taken and died within two hours . Diarrhcja also prevails to a Tory great extent . Amongst other causes is the state of the Joating harbour , situate in thc most populous pan of the city , which is such that to-day , shortly after a storm of rain , water drawn from ft iu bottles was found literally full of insects . This is most disgraceful to the city authorities , who have the remedy in their own hands .
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FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE . ( Concluded from Hie Second page . ) Paris , Tdesdav .- —The prosecutions of members of the Assembly were not terminated as was sup posed . Yesterday M . Baroche asked authorisation to prosecute three more representatives—MM . Commusaire , Eoenig , and Cantaar ^ for being concerned in tbe late events of June 13 . Urgency was demanded . Paris . Vedxesday . —In the Legislative Assembly of Yesterday , after the departure of tlie post , M . Bouchard presented the report cf the committee named to consider the demand for authorisation ti > prosecute 3 LM- Commissatre , Koeuig , and Cantag rel . The ballot vras twice annulled from an insufficieney of voters , the Left having abstained . The vote will be again proceeded to this day . Several public functionaries have been arrested at Ale ! , in ths department of the Tarn , in consequence of ihe disturbances in that toun .
DENMARK AND THE DUCHIES . Schxeswig , Jury . 9 . —In consequence of the news Of the battle oefore'Fredericia , the regency have ordered a levy ofall males from twenty-six to thirty who are not already under arms . They have also / presented aprojetde M to the Provincial Assembly , declaring that the liabflity to military service shall commence with the twentieth instead of thc twenty first year , and ordering all youths of twenty to ] Oin the army forthwith . The Assembly unanimously passed the law . Piually , a half brigade of the reserve has already marched northwards to fill up vacancies in the ranks .
The Danish version of the affair before Fredencia lias been received here . According to one of ihem , the Danes had S 00 wounded ; according to another , 3 , 200 . Tne number of killed on the side of the Danes is not stated ; hut it appears from this report that Gen . Eye , one of thc most distinguished Danish officers , is among the fallen , and that at least 1 , 500 lave heen buried . The number of wounded on thc Danish side is equal to that on ' our side , and so apparently is thc number of the killed . The great loss in both armies speaks for the strenuous nature of the combat between forces so unequal .
FcnrHEBpAniiccLAus . —Theloss of the Sehleswi £ - Holstein troops in the affair of the Gth proves to be much more serious than was at first admitted . According to the official returns the number of killed , wounded , and missing , amounts to 05 officers , 270 non-commissioned , and 2 , S « 0 rank and file , giving a total of 3 , 10-5 . The Danes also captured four sixpounders and an eight-inch field howitzer , independently of their having cither captured , spiked , or rendered unserviceable nearly the whole of thc battering train , which had not been destroyed or mutilatetfbv the besiegers as they were driven from the trenches . General Bonin , commanding thc routed
troops , admits that he was unprepared ior thc sortie , or , in other words , that he was completely surprised . His despatch is a very lame production . Two or three of the Schleswig battalions appear to have been completely cut up . Thus the 4 th lost twelve officers ( including surgeons ) , forty-two non-commissioned and 524 rantandfile lulled , wounded , and missing . The 2 nd battalion , twelve officers , thirtysix non-commissioned , and 433 rank and file , with its baggage , waggons , and field surgery . Tlie Ttli lattalion lost twenty-four officers , but fewer men in proportion , non-commissioned rank and file 120 only . So we must suppose the officers stood their cround better than their
men . On . tne whole , it has been a most sanguinary afiair , and has cost the belligerent parties ( supposing 1 , 109 Danes to have been put hors de comlai ) a total loss of 4 , 309 men in round numbers . The Bail ? Seivs gives the following ;—ARTICLES OF JSACE uetweex DEXMAUK A \ 'D HNjSSIA . "We receive from Uerlin the following preliminary articles of this treaty : — " The duchies are to have a separate constitution for their legislative and internal administration , Schleswig separate also from Holstein , but leaving intact the union which connects thc duchy of Schlcswig with the crown of Denmark . " Thc definite organisation of the duchy of Seliles-¦ wiff is reserved for a future arrangement . Tlie English mediation shall be continued for that -purpose .
" The duchy of Holstein shall remain in the German confederation , and p artake of the future constitution of Germany . And all material , but not political connexion , shall endure between Schleswig and Holstein . The King shall grant to the dueby of llolstom a constitution . " After the conclusion of the definite peace , thc King of Denmark is to take the initiative for negotiations relative to the succession in the duchies of Schleswig and Holstein , in accordance with the meat powers . * " " The contracting parties will request the guarantee of the great powers for thc future state of the ducuvofScldeswiff .
TRUED STATES . FSIGHIFn . rnOSBESS OF THE CHOIERA , — -AXAECET IX CALIFORNIA . rmLauELrmA , Jcxt 3 . —The mortality produced hy the cholera in many of the large cities of the United Stales , and the widely spreading prevalence and increase of the fatal pestilence , exclude almost every other subject from the public mind . In the west it is desolating beyond belief . Contemplate thc condition of St . Louis , with more than 500 deaths last week , and 700 the week before—nearly all from cholera . At Cincinnati the deaths range ii'Oni W 0 to 1- 5 ( 1 per day , —chiefly amongst ihe German and Irish immigrants . At Louisville , there were seventeen cases in two small houses ( Irish ) ,
and fifteen deaths I Thc steamboats on the western rivers arrive at ihe different ports , partly freighted with the dying and the dead . The track towards California ' from Independence , Missouri , across the prairies , is no longer marked alone by the footprints of men and horses , and thc ruts of wheels ; hut a letter writer graphically says : — "It is dotted zm & lined ca either side with newly-made graves . " In the Atlantic cities , and on the " sea-board , the pestilence is not so fatal , although thc mortality is great . In Xcw Tork the deaths range * from twenty to forty daily ; in Philadelphia from ten to twentyfive . In both cities , at thc suggestion of their Hoards of Health , public celebrations , both civic and military , announced for to-morrow , the 4 th of July , have been postponed , or abandoned altogether , from a well-founded apprehension that any " great
public excitement must tend to augment the disease . The ship Guy Mannering , which arrived at Ifew "Tork from Liverpool on Thursday last , with 770 passengers , had thirty-five deaths by cholera on her passage , and landed several sick passengers at the Quarantine . 3 few Orleans still suffers under the scourge , and on several plantations in Louisiana there have been from forty to eighty deaths among the negroes , within brief p eriods of a few days only . Indeed , most of them die almost suddenly , and without premonitory symptoms . Prayers are publicly offered up in all the churches , cholera hospitals are located in different districts of the large cities , and much excitement , anxiety , and alarm prevails —especially ^ s the calamitous visitation maybe expected to continue , with greater or less intensify durinsrthe entiro hot season .
"We have later intelligence from California , some of the details of which , I regret to say , are of a disastrous character — should those details be confirmed . Anarchy and riot are said to prevail at San -Francisco , and it is positively asserted that General Persifcr F . Smith had been frustrated in every endeavour to restore order , and finally compelled to seek safety on board a vessel of war , or some other American vessel in the harbour . Several persons had been killed , and it is added , " Neither life nor property is safe , even in San Francisco .. ' . Bloody
" work is anticipated between the . Americans and foreigners , both at the diggings and in the town . " The population is of the most motley description and character , and its different characteristics and features arethns happily hit off bv a California correspondent of the Neiv York E & ress , who writes directly from the Gold Region . He savs : — "We have great times , 'at the diigings , ' where all the world has its representatives 1 Oval-faced Chinese , greasy Sandwich Islanders , 'whole or none' men ixom ' 5 i 4 Q , ' skinflint Yankees from down East , fMYaJrousgentlewea from * off . South j" Hoosiers ,
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Buckeyes , and Kangaroos , from out West . Here , too , without number , arethe subjects of her Britannic Majesty , cheek by jowl with the people who come from the territories of the King or the Cannibal Islands . All are scraping and scratching away , like so many hens on a dunghill ; all the languages are spoken and taught ; about every religion under the sun has its devotees , hut all bow down before the shrine of Mammon , the God that has the sincerest and most enthusiastic worshippers—next to the Golden Calf . " An attempt was made by pirates to board the schooner Endora , from Bangor , Maine , bound to California , on the 4 th of April , off the coast of Brazil , but she was defended by her passengers and crew ; one boat filled with pirates sunk , and the rest sheered off .
Father Mathcw , the Apostle of Temperance , arrived safely atXew York in the Ashburton , and was honoured with a public and very cordial reception in that city on Monday . The visit of this excellent man to America will excite immense enthusiasm , and doubtless produce mneh benefit Public meetings of sympathy with the Hungarians and Italians are now frequent in all the large cities . Two have been held in New York , and the United States government has been memorialised in favour of acknowledging the nationality of Hungary . A meeting to promote republicanism in Italy has been held at Xew Orleans , and a meeting of sympathy with the Romans and Hungarians was held in Independence-square , in this city , on Saturday last , at the close of which three cheers were given for the Romans , three cheers for the Hungarians , and three groans fbr Louis Napoleon .
A destructive fire occurred at Whitehall , . New Tork , on Saturday—loss 50 , 000 dollars . —Mr Henry Crim , of - Kockawav , Lonsf Island , was found murdered in his own house a few days since , and one of his neighbours has heen apprehended on suspicion . —At Detroit , one dav last week , Mr . Edward George Wilkinson , recently " from London , destroyed himself with a pistol , owing to an attachment to a young lady who was his cousin , her friends objecting to the ir marriage on account of their relationship .
MEXICO . PROGRESS OF THE CHOLBRA . Another revolution is expected in Mexico—a very strong party having formed itself into a national association , with the declared object of overthrowing Herrcra , and raising Santa Anna once more to the chief magistracy . In Northern Mexico , the cholera rages with terrific violence , there having been 280 deaths in a single day at the small town of Saltillo . There was an earthquake at the city of Mexico on the 21 st ult , hut the damage resulting was not great . Yucatan is again tlie scene of exterminating war between thc Indians and the whites , in-which the latter , have been worsted . A party of seventy-one emigrants to California , from Rapides , Louisiana , had been attacked iu the defiles of the Rocky Mountains by Indians , and all except six persons , who alone escaped to . tell the story , were robbed and murdered .
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THE SHEFFIELD GRHSDERS LTflOX . TORK , July 12 . J . Dowry , J . Marsden , T . Bullar , and W . Hall , were placed at the bar on the charge of having incited persons to destroy machinery at Sheffield . The prisoners were tried for a similar offence at the Spring Assizes of 1848 , and were sentenced to be transported for ten years by Mr . Baron Rolfe . That judgment was subsequently quashed , inasmuch as that the offence of which they had been convicted was punishable with only seven years transportation . The prisoners , however , were detained on
other bills which had been found against them , and on being arraigned at thc last Assizes before Mr . Justice Coleridge they pleaded autre fois convict . Thc Crown demurred to that plea , and after argument his lordship deferred judgment that he might consult the bench of judges . This day Mr . Justice Wightinan said he had been commissioned by his brothei- Coleridge to deliver judgment in favour of the Crown , but with leave to withdraw that plea , and to put in the general plea of not guilty . The prisoners were then removed .
At a later period of the day they were again placed at thc bar , when Mr . Serjeant Wilkins , for the prosecution , stated , in consideration of tho long imprisonment which the prisoners had undergone , and the anxiety of mind aud expense to which they had been subject , it was not the intention of the prosecution to press the case further against them . It had been arranged that ihe judgment on the demurrer should stand against them , and that they should enter into their own recognisances of £ 100 each to appear and receive sentence when called upon , and then be discharged . Mr . Justice Wigutmax assented to the arrangement , and said the prisoners must clearly understand that the prosecution have agreed to adopt this , course solely on thc grounds stated hy the learned counsel . The judgment would be suspended , and it would depend on their future conduct whether or not they were further punished , as they were still amenable to the law . The recognisances were then entered into and the prisoners discharged .
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The Working Classes and the Sabbatarians . —A crowded public meeting of the working classes and their friends was held in the British School Booms , Cowper-street , City-road , on Monday evening , July lfith , with a view of protesting and petitioning the House of- Commons against the renewed attempt at persecution , coercion , and intolerance , in the shape of a bill now before the House " for the Better Protection of the Sabbath . " On tlie platform we noticed H . B . Wall , Esq ., M . P ., Messrs . Hetherington , J . Savage , J . Med . ey , A . Dyson , the Rev . E . BoEgis , and numerous other f . iends of the people . The Sabbatarians were in considerable strength , headed by Messrs . Hatch , Child , and Botskie , and during the evening created mnch disturbance by their noisy and uproaiious
conduct . Henry Baring Wall , Esq , M . p ., was propos ; dto fill ' the chair , to which the Sabbath Bill men proposed as an amendment , — "That Mr . Hatch do take the chair ; " but the original resolution was carried hy a very large majority . —Mr . Townsend then proposed , — "That the bill now before parliament f-. r the Better Protection of the Sabbath is partial and unjust , affVcting ' as it does thc poor only , and not the rich . "—Mr . Merriman , in a speech which was much applauded , seconded the resolution , upon which Mr . Child " moved as an amendment , — "That this meeting approves the principle of Mr . Hindley's Sabba ' . h Bill , " -which was seconded by Mr . Hatcb . —Mr . Henry Hetherinoton , in one of his admirable speeches , demolished the unstable fabric set
up by the movers of the amendment , anvdst shouts of laughter and great applau-e . —Mr . BrLcce in vain attempted to refute the sound argument put forth with so much good sense by Mr . Iletherington . On thc motion and amendment being put from the chair , the former was declared to be carried by a large majority , amidst great applause . A petition , embodying the resolution was adopted , and ordered to be presented to thc House by H . B . Wall . A vote of thanks was given to the chairman , for his impartial conduct in the chair , and the meeting separated . Depabtuse op the Egtpiiax Screw-Frigate Siiaukie . —The Sharkie , Egyptian steam-frigate , left Spithcad on Sunday evening , at five o ' clock , under steam for Gibraltar , en route to Alexandria .
On Friday , thc Sharkic took on board the state barge that has been built for the Pacha of Egypt by Mi" . Camper , the yacht builder of Gosport . This boat is similar in size , in model , and in her paint work and g ilding to Her Majesty ' s stntehnrge . The Sharkie also takes out , for the use of the Pacha and his son , several English-built carriages , with eight horses , four being of the English breed and four of the French , with an English coachman and groom to look after them . A few days ago one of the French horses kicked the horse-box to pieces , got adrift , and galloped round the deck , putting the Egyptian crew to the rout , and it was not before lie had done some serious mischief to himself and to several of the crew that he could be secured . Hafiz
Bey , the commander , is a strict disciplinarian , and awards summary punishment when a breach of discipline occurs . * A few days ago one of the crew struck a subordinate officer , and the Bey _ ordered Mm a hundred lashes . The man was seized and thrown on the deck on his face , his arms and legs extended , and on each sat an Egyptian ; two others , with a rope gasket , proceeded to inflict thc punishment , , without thc removal of , the clothes . The culprit cried out piteously while receiving the first forty strokes , after which he lay quiet ; after receiving the hundi-cd stripes he ; was lifted up , and when being conveyed . away made some obnoxious
remark for which he was again lam prostrate , and received an additional , twenty stripes with the gaskets . . A Scholastic Sixecoke . —The Blackburn Grammar School must be rather a snug thing , " The present master , the Rev . J . Bennett , " says the Preston Chronicle , "has no scholars except . his own two sons ! 2 foassistant , though he receives the same stipend as his predecessor , who had tb pay three . " Ho Rule without an ExcEPiiox . —When " passing a dwelling , as a general rule , it is not polite to look into the windows : but when a pretty woman is sitting by it , for the ostensible purpose of being looked at , you may be considered ; uncivil and ungenerous if you do hot cast an admiring glance . —American
paper . ^ _ .- . . . YouDox ' i Sat so?— -A Yankee has invented a sort of piano , by means of whichyou may print letters like winking . ' ' ? The invention , " says a contemporary ( American , ) "bids fair to supersede pens and ink . " Our thieves will then he described in the calendar as ' . ' neither able to read . nor play !"Gateshead Observer . " ; . . The Aeuiru Tdeeraph states that there was a riot I in Armagh on the night of the 12 th . The particulars are not given , but that paper states that the ; military were called out , and the Riot Act read . One [ maAwa ^ oiojnjitted to gaol , . - ;¦ ¦ " :
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MONDAY , July 16 . HOUSE OF LORDS . -Tyne Conservancy ct ' — -k ° rd Deaumont moved the second reading of the Tyne Conservancy Bill , its object being to transfer the conservancy from the corporation to new commissioners , inconsequence of the former body having neglected to preserve the river , and , in fact , ruined the port . Lords Brougham , Wharkcuffb , and Reoesdake , and the Earl of Habrowby , opposed the bill . Lord Campbell thought the measure ought not to be strangled in its birth , and was of opinion that it was quite necessary the conservancy should be placed in new hands iu consequence of the shameful mismanagement whichhad taken place . The Earl of St . Gkbmans , Earl Grey and the Marquis of CiANRicAunE concurred in opinion that
the bill ought to sent to a select committee . On a division the second reading was carried by a majority of 12 , the numbers , 42 to 30 , and the bill was referred to a select committee . Irish Poor Law . —On thequestion for going into committee on the Poor Relief Bill , Lord Stanley made his speech in opposition to the bill , contending that there was nothing to lead binv to the belief that her Majesty ' s government had taken a large and general view of the new state of Ireland , and of the manner in which taxation pressed upon it . Amended as he trusted the bi 1 would berejected as he trusted some of its most obnoxious provisions would be—yet , when passed , he had no hope that the measure , whatever future legislation might do , would really have the sli ghtest tendency towards a cure of that canker of a poor law which was now eating into the very heart of Ireland .
The Earl of Kingston offered a few observations having reference , as it was understood , to the course which he had taken with regard to the poor of his own district in the county of Cork . The Marquis of Lansdowne replied to the arguments of Lord Stanley , and after some observations from the liarl of Rosse and Lord Redesdalb , the House went into committee , when , on the first clause being put , imposing a maximum rate . Lord Monteagle moved its omission , which , after a protracted debate , was carried by a majority of 8 . The other clauses were agreed to as far as the 16 th , upon which , and the three following clauses , a second division took p lace , in which Ministers were again defeated , and the clauses rejected . The rest of the bill was agreed to without opposition , and the report of the committee ordered to be received on Monday next . Their lordships then adjourned at one o ' clock . '
HOUSE OF COMMONS . —The House met at twelve o ' clock . Smah . Debts Amendment Bill . —The Attor ^ net-General moved that ihe Douse resolve itself into committee , for the purposs of considering a resolution for granting compensation to the officers of the Palace Court , under tbe provisions of the Small Debts Act Amendment Bill . Lord D . Stuart objected to the principle of the bill , and protested agaiust any compensation being granted to the attorneys of the PalaceOourt . The Attoknet-Generai . assured his noble friend that the motion was merely a formal one , involving no principle , but was merely in compliance with the standing orders of the House . The House having gone into committee , a resolution was moved , empowering the Treasury to grant compensation to the officers of the Palace Court .
Mr . B . Osborne took a far higher ground of opposition to the resolution than his noble friend , namelv , that the very institution of the Palace Court was , db initio , illegal , inasmuch as it levied a tax upon the people in the shape of fees without the sanction of parliament . The hon . member then proceeded to detail the history of the court , and to refer to the compensations already granted on the passing of fhe County Courts Act , as appeared by the returns made to that House , and asked whether , in the teeth of such a return , the House ought to be called upon to grant compensation for losses to be sustained by tbe abolition of offices pregnant with so much wickedness and plunder . The Attorney-General interposed , and stated that the scale of compensation was to be adjusted by the business done in the court in 1840 .
Mr . B . Osborne retorted that the scale was to be based on the principle of . the £ 2 , 000 and £ 3 , 000 enhanced prices given for the attorneyships and barrister-hips in the court , which he would never consent to . He did not know by wlmt scale the compensation already awarded had heen given , but he should prefer sending the matter before a select crunmitfce instead of letting the Treasury deal with It , and the people of England would , he was sure , object to give any such compensation as the Attorney-General contemplated . After some further observations from Sir II . Willoughby , Lord D . Stoakt , and the Attorney-General , the resolution was agreed to , and the House went into committee on the bill ; when on the representation of Mr . Cakdwell the Attobney-Genkral agreed to throw the first five clauses overboard . After agreeing to other clauses the Chairman reported progress .
Other bills were forwarded a stage , and at three o ' clock the House suspended its sitting until five . Mr . W . Miles expressed his regret at being compelled , iu consequence of the late period of the session , to withdraw Ins motion on the subj-cfc of National Education , tut in the event of the differences between the Privy Council and the National Society not being arranged in the interval , should bring the subject forward early in the next . The subjects discussed arising cut of questions put in succession were—Church Pluralities , the Report of the Lands Commission , the Sarawak Pirates , Cholera in Connexion with Churchyards , Party
Processions in Ireland , and Medals to the Indian Army . Lord J . Russell , in reply to Mr . Osborne , stated that he could not at present gives the names Oi" the commissioners to be appointed under the Incumbered Estatrs ( Ireland ) Bill / because he had not as jet received answers from the gentlemen proposed to be nomina ted . It was intended that these duties should be performed by gentlemen on whom the House could place entire confidence . Mr . Baixes replied to Mr . Disraeli , with respect to the better remuneration of Poor-law officers , in consequence of the increased duties inipOSCU upon them by the Board of Health , that the subject was under consideration .
The Earl of Lincoln , for the information of lion , members interested in his motion on thc subject of the grant for Yancouver ' s Island to the Hudson ' s Bay Company , intimated that from fhe low position in which it stood on tha paper , he should not be enabled to bring it on in the present session . Reduction of Salaries . —On the order of the day for the House to resolve itself into a Committee of Supply , Mr . Henley moved , pursuant to notice , that a reduction of ten per ami . be made in all salaries in the departments of government at home and abroad . He observed that it happened to nations as to individuals , to be obliged sometimes to take a view of their circumstances ; and he proposed to compare the position in which the country stood at the respective periods of 1831 and 1818 , with respect to the expenditure , the means of meeting if , and the price ; of the necessaries of life—a just dement ill the Question .
He then staled the amount of the gross expenditure at the two periods , showing that it had increased in a much greater ratio than the population , from which fact , coup led with the increase of crime , he inferred that taxation had augmented in a ratio beyond the power of the people to bear it . The depreciation of corn and-other necessaries , food , clothing , and furniture , as well as the cost cf locomotion , between 1831 and 1818 , had been at le-st twenty per cent , on an average ; and his proposition would make an equal division of the benefit resulting from this reduction between the country and its public officers . " More work and less money " had been conditions imposed upon all the classes subsist : ing upon trade and labou ^ whereas the publia servants , although they participated to the same degree in the benefit of reduced prices , suffered only one of the conditions—" mcre . work , " for which they receive the same money . His proposition did not extend to officers of the army or navy , nor to the law
officers . . . . The - Chancellor of tbe Exchequer m . urging the inexpediency , in the present state of the country , of reducing the incomes of puVhc ofhcersi referred to the report of the committee of 1831 , by which the scale of salaries had , been revised , and which had suggested the impolicy of depressing , too low the salaries attached to " public employments The fairest wav of deciding the question was , t o compare the salaries , paid for corresponding employments in public offices and private situations , and so far as he had been able to ascertain , tho . latter were better paid ; the certainty of employment in the former affording an equivalent ; He believed there would be no advantage in reducing public , salaries—' which were not higher than was sufficient to . secure adequate services-but that , on the contrary ,- it service
would be most prejudicial to the public . ; _ Mr . Newdegate supported the motion , argumg thr . t our late monetary and " commercial tlieones . had depressed the exchangeable va ' ue of the products and labour , of the country ; " it was , therefore , necessary to . accommodate , our expenditure to this impo-. verishing . ' policy , and tlie ' money . 'paymept of us public servants to the real value of their services . . -- : Mr . V . Smith pbinted : ou ' t ;{ he ' palpable injustice of the principle of indiscriminate decimation pro ? posed by-Wr , Henley .. The adaptation of salary to the work performed , he observed ,, had potheen Kept in view even by the committee < of > 1831- in : their reductions . There were certain temporary and other salaries the reduction of whichjie would support ; btffhd-could not agree suddenly ., to cut off one-tenth of the salaries of hard-working ; clerks in public
establishments . - ; . >¦ ! , Mr . Roebuck could not . support the motion , . 06-cause he believed it to be an unjust one . Before he consented , to iedwe aU salaries , to swat to assured
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that all were overpaid , which he did not believe , although he knew there was an inequality of pavment ; and if Mv , Henley would make a fair and ' honest proposal to inquire into all salaries , and apportion them to labour , beginning with the highest , he would support him . ¦ Mr - Henry Drummonh said , the Ministers had boasted that the prices of commodities had bten reduced fifty per cent . ; which was equivalent to saying that the fixed salaries of all public servants had been raised to that extent , and he thought they ought not to be raised . Mr . Hume denied that the motion was unjust , rhe country had a right to be served at as cheap a rate as individuals , and to be benefitted , like individuals , by the reduction in the price of commodities . He was for bringing down all salaries to a proper scale , not excepting lawyers or bishops , for
ne oeiievea the judges were all overpwl . He voted for the motion because it would be a p ledge 0 f m Tj ' wllich tU ( i Government must carry out . Mr . liEUuiEs was compelled to oppose the motion , which was inconsistent with justice , and if so not defensible upon sound policy . Mr . Henley had assumed that there had been no reductions of salaries since . 1831 , whereas they had greatly exceeded ten per cent . Between 1833 and 1849 the reductions ™ n « o gr < ; at « fe p « tnvnta had been 2 , 001 ) out * oaa oa- -J V umbers > and £ 250 , 000 in salaries cut of A 9 OO . W 0 , showing a greater ratio of reduction in salaries than m numbers which had been going on
, \ I . \ notv 5 ' ll : I > stai ] ding the occasional enhancement ot the price of corn . Nothing could be more unjust or more , prejudicial to tlie public service than to adjust salaries to the fluctuations in the price of wheat , and establish com salaries . Whilst the expense ot colhctmg the revenue of France was fourteen per cont ., ours was collected at 6 * per cent . . ^ 1 . ^ ¥ PP <> rted the motion . wishing , howgfO T , that . lt had embraced every department , and that low salaries should be raised . Was it fair or just that , ; .-whilst , wages , had been reduced with priceS l < the salaries of public servants should escape reduction ? .
Lord J . RossEnr . said that the salaries of the great officers are lower now than in 1780 . The committee of 1831 went upon the principle—directly the reverse of Mr . Henley ' s-cf considciing whether services wew sufficiently paid by certain salaries - , and if another principle were adopted , it would create tho utmost confusion . But there was this stronger objection to the motion—that the reduction would affect a great body of persons with very small salaries , without considering the amount of duty they
performed , which would be most unjust . If any officer were supposed to be too highly paid , that would be a ivason for inquiry ; but to take away a tenth of allsalaries at one sweep appeared to him a most absurd proceeding , nor could he understand the justice of exempting from such . ' a motion thc army and navy or future judges ., The , right mode of reduction , the true path of economy , was to consider the nature of the service and the amount of remuneration , and , if it was too high with relation to the service , to reduce the remuneration .
Mr . \\ 6 dehouse and Mr . Spooxkr supported the motion upon the same grounds as . Mr . Newdegatenamely , thattheprospects of the country had changed since 1846 , and that if salaries were right then , they must bei wrong now . Mr . Aglionby opposed tlie motion as a clap-trap , which contained nothing practical , and would lead to nothing-Mr . Goulbvrn condemned the motion , which was founded in injustice , and joined Mr . Berries in paying a tribute to the integrity and fidelity of our public servants . "
Mr . Cobden could not be a party to the reduction of small salaries , and regretted that Mr . llenley had not pointed attention to high salaries . He thought thc high officers of State were excessively paid , and he would reduce them more than ten per cent . He should vote for the motion in order , if it b ? came a substantive motion , to move an amendment for the appointment of a committee to consider what reduction could b ' e made , consistently with the efficient pc-rformancc of the public service , in the number and salaries of public officers . _ After a few observations , to which the House listened with some impatience , from Mr . Packe , Mr . BitiGHT , Mr . Clay , Mr . T . 'E gerton , " and Sir W . Jolliffe , the House divided , when the motion for going into committee was carried , by 149 against 102 , so that Mr . Henley ' s amendment was lost .
ihe House then went into committee of supply , and . was engaged upon the Ordnance estimates until a quarter past one o ' clock , when the Chairman reported progress , having leave to sit again on Wednesday . The other orders having been disposed of , the House adjourned at half-past two .
TUESDAY , July , IT . HOOSE OF LORDS . —The Admiralty Courts Colonial Jukisdzction Bill . was read a second time on the motion of Lord Campbell . Lord Mo . vtbaolg laid the second report of the committee of the York , Newcastle , and Berwick Railway on the table , and urged on tlie Home an attentive consideration of its contents . Tlie Sewers Act Amendment Bill was road a second ; time , and ordered to be committed on Thursday . Their Lordships then ¦ adjourned , after disposing of some unimportant budness . HOUSE OF COMMONS .-This House met at
noon , and ,- 'after the report upon the Sm . ul Debts Act Amendment ( compen-ation fbr offices abolishud ) had been agreed to , went into committee upon the bill , which' passed through without amendment , notwithstanding the opp"sition of Lord D . Stuart to the compensation clause . On the order of the day for going into committee upon the Stock in Trade Bill , ' ¦ ' . Sir H . Willoughby objected to the principle of casting the poor-rate exclusively upon a particular class of property forming only one-fourth of the whole property of the kingdom , so that in many cases of out-door relief part of the wages of artisans must be paid by occupiers of land and houses .
Mr . O . Lewis said , the question was not whether all personal property should be rated to the poor , but whether a temporary act , exempting stock in trade , should be renewed . He explained the series of judicial constructions put upon the statute of Elizabeth—which made " every inhabitant" rateable— whereby personal property escaped variability except that , with respect to stock in trade , there had existed doubts , and in order to obviate thc practical inconvenience of leaving , the validity of rates open to question , in 1840 a bill had been introduced to
suspend the rateability of stock in trade ; and it had been continued from year to year , no alteration being practically made in the law , since at no time had stock in trade been rated . As . to thc benefit to the agricultural interest from rating stock in tradc , thore had becu a misunderstanding arising from looking at it in the aggregate , not by parishes . The rating of stock in trade in Marylebone would be no relief to a parish i n Cumberland ; . and the rating it universally would produce no sensible relief to the great mass of rural parishes . ' .
. Mr . ' . Henley considered that the practical difficulty of . dealing with the whole subject was no reason for postponing the evil day , and continuing a tinkering system of legislation . There could be no doubt it was intended that all property should bear the rate . Mr . C Lewis intimated that the subject was under the consideration cf Government , and that a measure was in preparation . Mr . Diskav . li insisted upon the injustice of fixing upon one-third of the income of the country a bu eden which should be borne by the whole . The country was aware of this injustice , and this must force a Settlement of the question ., Local taxation was the great question of the day . Stock in trade was not the only class of property exempted from the rate , and relief could be given " only by making all property rateable .
Tne House ultimately went into committee , through which the bill passed . ¦ . Several bills were read a ^ third time and . passed ; others were forwarded a stage .. \ Allthe orders on the paper for the noon sittii ? s ( a long list ) were got . through before , three o ' clock , when business was suspended until five . Jol'iineymen Bakers Bill . —Petitions in favour of this bill were presented . by Captain Peeheli , Mr . B . Osborne , Lord Dudley Stuart , Lord Ashley , Mr . Duncan ; Sir De Lacy Evans , and Mr . Childers . Lord RObert Grosvenor , having presented seven petitions in favour of the bill which he was about to move for leave' to bring in , proceeded to suy , he feared he should labour under considerable difficulty
in endeavouring to direct the attention of the House to the measure he was about to propose 5 for . as Hie House was accustomed to deal with' questions effecting largeclasses of the community , and riotraerely affecting the inhabitants of this country , but touching upon " those in the remotest parts ' of the globe , he could hardly . ' expect they- Would condescend to give their attention to a measure ' involving the interests and welfare of only a small section of the community . : Yet , lDasmuchas the bill was intended to be a remedy'fbr grievances how -lying upon a cbnsiderable number of their fellow ' subjects , he trusted ? the House ' would favour him . with their attention , even although the subject was by no means of an exciting nature . It intimately concerned the interest of
thousands whose attention was engaged ur oh it , because they believed that the decision of the Hovksemvolved theirfiiturecomfort and happiness , their . nmral . and religious . progress ; ayj lie- might say the duration Of life itself ; ' The ' House would -recollect ; tb atjlast year he moved-for a committee to- inquire into certain allegations ' madelin petitions laid upon the table of . the House , in which parties comp lained oi grievances and asked for a remedy . The House refused the committee . He regretted it-then , and he regreUeditstiU ; because the labours of such ^ a committee must have resulted either in sh owing the ! baselessness Of the allegations , and so there would have been au end of the caseV or , '; on the contrary , having decided favour ably , to the i petitioners , they . would aaye laid tfc foundation , for legislation at a Mure
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opportunity . He recollected that among tho arguments used against him then , the Secretary of State for the Home Depai tment said he was out of court , tor having adduced the evidence of Dr . Kyle , further inquiry wag rendered unnecessary ; and " that the right honourable gentleman the member for the University of Oxford siid he was not unwilling to consider a measure upon the subject . From that he concluded those right honourable gentlemen were not opposed to his object , and in that he was confirmed by being permitted , later in the session , to introduce a measure unopposed . As that bill , was precisely the same measure which he now proposed mtio . hicing , and ths principle and details were contained in a sinale clause , ho trusted the House
would not permit him to introduce the bill at all if they intended to oppose it at a future stage . Not only for the sake of those whose interests he advocated did he ra & l' ; . £ * # jeouest but at that late period of the action , " witli so ' short a bill , such a course would be more desirable than protracted delay , if opposition were determined on . As the statements which he had laid before the House had never since been impugned , and , he believed , could not be im pugned , he hoped he might be spared the necessity of repeating , and tho Uousethc trouble of listening , to the details of those grievances . He reminded them that the journeyman baker commenced work about eleven o ' clock in the evening , and continued his toil from that time forward till five , six , and even seven o ' clock the
following evening ; he could take no rest during the interval ; his labour became greatly increased 011 Friday and Saturday , and in most instances he was subject to five or six hours toil on the Sunday , The pkee where he worked was a low , unventilated cellar . He was subjected to the extremes of heat and cold daily ; ar . d while mechan cs and factory people laboured only sixty hours a week the journevman baker , was compelled to toil 108 hours a week * and there was little opportunity left him of religious worship . The House would hardly be surprised if the effects of such a system were moral and religious degradation . His object , by the bill which he proposed introducing , was . to prohibit all labour from seven o'clock in the evening to four o ' clock next moriiinsr ; and he begged to assure all those who apprehended
that tlie luxuries ol'tlic breakfast table might be diminished that their apprehensions were unfounded . The same quantity of hot rolls as befo re would bo turned out , and the only difference would be that they could not get a hot quartern loaf till half-past nine o ' clock in the morning ; but he did not think that a set of men ought to be kept up all night for the purpose of poisoning people in tlie morning . - He said he was credibly informed that two-thirds of the 2 , 500 master bakers in the metropolis bad petitioned in favour of the bill , and not one had petitioned against it ' ; and lie himself , on entering into conversation with some of them , found them quite alive to the evils of the present system , and ready to accede to any remedy which could be proposed . Those in the House who had objected to the bill did so on two
grounds . The first was , that it was an immutable and unchangeable rule of the Legislature never fo interfere with labour ; and . the second , that if they were to grant the _ remedy to oho set of workmen , there were others in a similar situation , who would immediately apply , and whom it would be impossible to satisfy , and , therefore , they declined raising any such expectations . He begged to say , as to the first , that , so far from its being a principle of a Legislature that they-should , never interfere with labour , the House had repeatedly , by large majorities , departed from such a principle , and that , too , in a cisse not long ago , after arguments long and repeatedly had upon the subject . He imagined that instances of such departure were not wanting in the Truck Bill , the Factory Suspension Bill , the CoaN
whippers Act , the Mines and Collieries Act , and the Ten Hours Bill . The hon . member for the West Riding said the Ten Hours Bill was for children ; hut in that assertion he entirely differed from the lion gentleman . In the same way they had passed the Coalwhippers Act , interfering with thc labour of adults . But when his hon . friend the President of the Board of Trade ( Mr . Labouchcre ) stated that the fustian cutters , and many others were quite as hard worked as the bakers , he must answer that their case was not now before the House , and that it was rather hard , therefore , to meet him with a case which was not very clearly defined , and was not certainly then before them . Yet supposing that bill was passed into a law , and others came forward to allege similar grievances , then it became them to apply a remedy ;
or if the variety of individual casvs should he perplexing and endless they might appoint a commission to consider the whole question , and to see whether some principle could not be found applicable . to the general case . He recollected the Secretary of State for thc Home Department suggested last time that bakehouses might bu put under the inspection of a sanitary commission , a commission of the Board of Health , hue the Sanitary Bill for the metropolis had long been in conception , and _ difficult , it would seem , to bring into the light ; and in many cases he did not expect much advantage to result from such an arrangement . He appealed to the party that followed the leadership of the hon . member for Montrose , as they were anxious to extend the suffrage , to supnort the bill , as the means not only of abating intolerable
grievances , but of leaving room for the elevation of the working classes , llosaidhe felt convinced , from all thc consideration which he had been able to give to this subject , that the more they could restrict the hours of labour wi . Mn reasonable limits , tlie more would they destroy—not that wholesome feeling existing between the employer and thc employed , so necessary tothe profitable pursuits of industry—but that unwholesome condition of tho working classes Which was bringing one and all into a state of degradation and ruin . ( Cheers . ) 'The victim who came fresh from th * country , and especially from Scotland , was sent through the lire of . VJoloch at ihe age of fifteen or sixteen ' , and from that period forward he
had no time to give to mental improvement , to religious instruction , or to rational amusement , so that if these persons w « re not indoctrinated into the worst practices of the world it wasnot the fault of the system lo which they were subjected . He imploi \ d the llouse , on no consideration of his feeble advocacy of the important interests involved , from no attention to any supposed principle of non-interfcrence with labour , which had been often rejected , and on no meie supposition that numerous claims must follow the recognition of those , the force of which could not be denied , to resist the bill . He concluded by movingforlcavetobringinabill to prohibit labour in bakehouses during cert-iin hours of the night .
Sir E . N . Buxton seconded the motion . Mr . L . vnouciiERE said he could assure his noble friend that lie had expressed a groundless apprehension that the bill mi g ht suffer from the ability of the advocate ; for , on . thc contrary , he must say he had been most happy in handling his sulrjcct , and very judicious in the manner in which lie had introduced the claims and brought forward the arguments which supported tho cause lie had undertaken . He had stated , that if the House was dpposed to the principle of the bill , it would bo desirable to express that opinion at once rather than delay it to a future stage of the measure . He agreed with the noble lord in that opinion , and because he was compelled to express an opinion con ? trary to the measure , because ho entertained
op inions strongly opposed to the principle of thc measure , he must give his vote against thc present motion of his noble friend . The principle of the measure which his noble friend proposed was altogether novel to the Legislature of this country . The principle that , in order to limit the hours of labour , would introduce government inspectors into factories whore large numbers of persons were employed , would give rise to an intolerable evil . There would be constant visits necessary on the part of thc government inspectors , and there would bo constant complaints against the employers made by those who were in their employment . But much move a bill that should necessitate an inspection from house to house , and in every workshop , to see that the limit t o the hours of labour was duly
observed , would introduce a system which would be repugnant to the habits and intolerable to the feelings of the people of this country . The noble lord , in introducing this mcasuvo , did not SOOni to bo aware that bakehouses were not the only places where long hours of labour were imposed—that the fustian cutters , as well as thc bakers , and others besides , ' were subjected to labour to a protracted degree ; so that . having legislated for one of these bodies they would have them all with . complaints of a similar nature , and ottering as strong claims to the consideration-of the . House . - "If , then , they were to supersede these hours of labour by a law passed for tho purpose , as it would introduce a system , 'intolerable to the feelings of the people of this country , which must bo carried out'by an army of visitors . a
host of inspectors employed to see that the restnc- , tions on the hours of labour were observed inpri ^ vate houses , and in the individual workshops , it then became , them to take : their stand here , arid at at once , against the statements of . his noble , friend , to reiect . the principle which lie would introduce . He . quoted the case of the Coalwhippers Act as analogous to this proposed interference with labour , and whiclij'hc said , " liadhecnfonnd to ; work advantageously . He ( Mr . Xabouchere ) thohg ' ht thd ; cases wore by no means analogous .:. The ; coalwhippers were an organised body ot men , ' working within ¦ a known 1 locality , and not scattered over different districts ' throiisrhoutthe kirisrdom . . The Coalwhippers .
Act interfered , neither with the hours of labour , nor with „ wages ;; : it merely . rc eiilated the " . ' manner in which' those p ersons were Hired . and paid . through . the institution'of a public officesimilar . to . the shipping / offices ' - which he had ! proposed . the other . day , with „ i'egard . ' to sailors . There // was nothinganalogousj ; therefore , ihthat billedIthq . one ,, tlie , noble Ford was now proposing to introduce ; ' it proceeded rirVa 'totallv different principle , ... The .. question before the House was so- simplej that he . should ; not dwell upon it at any length . It was whether they were-prepared to ^ dopt the principle , of restricting the hours of labour or adult persons ' employed ; not in factories , but in scattered houses and workshops , begmningwift-h ^ ,: £ « , » a li beginning with
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bakers , " because if their case was conceded other parties would come forward with equal clahns to protection , and tlie llouse would be involved in difncultios for which he saw no practical solution . Uy constant interference and inspection , hi a manner opposed to the genius and institutions of the country , prescribing to employers and emploved how to regulate their contracts , they would be doing more harm than good . His advice to tho House , therefore was to reiect thc proposal of his noble friend , although he admitted it was brought forward in the most benevolent spirit , and from the best intentions . ( Ileai " , hear . ) _ Lord D . Stuaut , Sir De Lacy Evmb , and Mr . Du . ncax gave a qualified support to the motion recommending » previous inquiry by a select committee . Mr . Heyworth opposed the motion , and Mr . Stafford supported it , considering that the coni-whi ppcrs' case was an analogous one .
Mr . Coddex said , the proposal of thc noble lord , as he understood it , was that the House should pass a law to regulate the hours of work for a certain class of labourers in London . Xotwithstaiidinf all that had been said by thc noble lord he believed that to bo a now principle in this country . It was quite a mistake to compare the case of tbe bakers to that of the coalwhippers . That of tho coalwhippers , upon which the House interfered , was . 1 case of hiring and not of hours of work . ( Hear , hear . ) fhe case of-the Ten Hours Bill had also been referred to as one in point ; but lie reminded the House that when that sub ject was discussed manv members declared that if it had been a question ' of limitin" - the hourof adult labour
s they would not vote for it ; they admitted that the question was solely for limiting the hours of work of children . ( Hear . ) This then was a new principle . But it was a great principle . ' It was a world-wide principle . * ' "What " said the . honourable gentleman opposite ( Mr , Stafford ) "is your principle ? " He accepted the challenge , and told the hon . gentleman his principle was that of perfect freedom of industry . The hon . gentleman , however , identified the question ' with the principle of protection ; and lie had told the House fairly that they upon his ( Mr . Cobden ' s ) side were for interfering-with labour . ' Yes ; but how ? By increasing and not restricting thc supply of food for the labourer . In fact this was a case which must
be put upon the same grounds as that of the corn laws , for the repeal of which lie and others had struggled so many years . One of two principles must bo adopted , either perfect freedom of industrv , or regulated industry . ' You must either have corn laws ov bakevs' laws . But could you stop with b . ilvcrs' laws ? "Why should not the o { : li blowers come'forward ? Whv not the-class ofmen working in tin ' s metropolis who were called " nightmen 1 " ¦ 'Why should not they come forward for their law ? Why not the men engaged in tho iron foundries ? Why there was 110 c . a single trade in which it could nofc be proved , or where fch ' e men were not prepared to say , tho work was too hard , or ihe hours too long ; Was the House prepared to carry out this principle to all those trades ? If they
wore not , he warned the llouse not to enter upon this path , because it would lead to tho widest disappointment . ( Hear , hear . ) Kc told the noble lord ( Lord i { . GrosvenorJ publicly , . as ho had told him privately , that this policy was Communism , though he did not know it . ( Hear , hear . ) He told the noble lord so last year , in the lobbv of the House . At that time Paris was in the hanils of the Communists ; Louis Blanc was at tho Luxembourg ; and what had been the result of Communist authority m Paris ? Why , that in tlie month of June there was a bloody outbreak in Paris ; and he distinctly traced the discontent and disaffection of the working classes to their not having realised the promises which the Communists made to them . It was predicted by thc ablest men in Francewhen
, tho government undertook to regulate every man ' s business , and . to turn tailors , shoemakers , and all sorts of trades , that great disappointment would be felt by the working , classes , and that a fearful reaction would Cyme . It did come ; and bv encouraging the system now , proposed , by leading the working-classes to suppose that b y regulating the hours of labour they bad power to give healthful employment to adult people , they would find they wore investing themselves with a power they did not possess and that when they were called upon to exercise it for their henefit it would not satisfy their expectations . { Hear , hear . ) Tho noblo lord had told the House he did not moan to exclude the crse of tbe Sheffield knife-grinders There was a body of men doomed to pulmonarv complaints at tlie mro
of forty . And the noble lord said , ! . ' Quote mo any other cases , and I will nofc exclude them . " Then they must appoint a committee to take into consideration the whole condition of the working classes , and apply aremedy . for the evils of every different trade . What difference would there bo between a committee so sitting , and that of Louis Blanc and his friends at the Luxembourg ? Tlie honourable gentleman opposite' ( Mr .--Stafford ) , in putting this question forward , as a question betwen modern freedom and olden restriction arid regulation , had alluded to the ancient guilds . We had superseded them ; and what where they ? They were oligarchies , sot up by privileged classes , to prevent other people from getting their bread in their own way . A man set up one trade in a town , or a few men set
up in another ; refugees from feudal tyranny , or other refugees for shelter , they first confederated to regulate their own trade , and then they set to work to exclude others . from cutcriii * ' it . If the guilds existed now , these Scotch bakers to whom allusion had been made , could not come to London and establish themselves in the trade . It was solely through freedom of trade , bv the guilds being superseded , that tho countrymen of the hon . member for Dundee ( Mr .-Duncan ) could come to London and carry on their trade at all . As regarded the grievance of those bakers , there was " prima facie , something suspicious when men came 400 miles from the north , where there were very shrewd and calculating men , to follow a trade which hon . members wcre awarc was most noxious , destructive to health , unprofitable to them and their families .
and when those men then came to that House to have that trade made more healthy and more profitable . He disputed the premises . If thc trade was such as it was described to be , why did ' they come from Scotland to follow it ? ( Hear , hear !) lie should vote against the principle of undertaking to manage thc affairs of adult males through the intervention of the Legislature . Hon . members had quite enough to do ; and if they gave themselves a ten hours bill —( boar , hear)—they would then : be sotting a better example to the rest of the community . If the House adopted the principle ot * this bill , thoy would have somebody coming from the agricultural districts to talk of the terrible occupation of thrashing beans and peas . Did hon . gentlemen ever sec a poor draggle-tailed woman in a ¦ wet turnip-field ? ( Hear , noitl ' . ) lie SIW . in llOll . friend in tho House who had been an amateur
farmer for a time , and who said that 110 had been out into the field and sent home tho women , as ho could not bear to sec them . Were the House once to act on the principle of intoi-Fcronco tiioy would involve themselves in an inextricable-labyrinth . They would make the condition of the working classes worse than it was ; because they would teach thc working classes to rely upon that House . ( Hear , hear . ) Sir G . Guey , in reply to tho appeals made to the government to consent to a committee of inquiry , repeated tho objections ho had assigned List yearnamely , that all necessary information was before thc House , and that it would only encourage delusive hopes . After a reply from Lord Ghosvexor , thc House divided , and the numbers were—For the motion , ¦ — . 19 . Against it ... _ ... ; 77 Majority against ; the motion ... " ~ # ?
SxirrnriELD Mabket . —Mr . Mackixxos having presented a petition from London , complaining of the injurious effect upon tho public health by the sale of diseased moat , proceeded at great length to draw the attention " of . the House to . the . reporter the committee , which had ' sat to inquire into the subject of Sniithfield - "Market , and concluded by ' moving an address tothe crbvn , - "tha't 'hor'Majesty would give directions that thc report of such committee be taken into early and serious consideration with tbe view , as stated by the hon . member , of the removal of the market , and giving power to tho gOVCYMuCut to appropriate a new-site , and to have the whole control of the arrangements connected therewith . ' •' - ¦¦ . '•" . ..- ' '' Mr . Osborse followed in opposition to thc motion , the other speakers being , Mr . Alderman Sii > - nky , ' Sir Db . Lacy Evaxs , - Sir E . Filmer , Lord It . GnosvEXoh , Mr . " Stafford , Sir J . Tvrf . li , ' Mr . O . Goke , and Mr .. C . Lewis , after which . ;• .. (
, . Miv MacKinnon , intimated that he would not press the " motion ' . af , tlie government would promise to take up tho question ' . '' . ' .. " . " . ' ' ' . ' . '" Lord Ji * llussV . i . ii said ; even if the motion had not been made , thegovernmentwould have doomed ifc their duty to have taken the . recommendation of tho committee into consideration . But he certainly would'riot undertake the responsibility of removing all the evils , thnt went under the name of * ' Smith ' field Market , " ' for the " same , evils might attach to a different site . ;; all he could say Was ; thereport should be considered : ' ' ' '' "' ¦ : ' - ' : '" ¦ '¦'''•' : " ¦ "' - The motion was > thori withdrawn . > - r .. - ^ : " . "; i ' -On the order of ; theidayj movedjbyMn Fsbwej . - , for going into committee . upon : thc Hcncficcs in , ! » urality ( . No . 2 V 13 ilI „ , ' .. - . \ , „ .-.-... -.. . x .... : " Lord J . IlussKu ;' objected to going on wtth-a bill of so much : importance .. at so late a penodof tho sessiohV . '' : - '; 11 : -fi 0 / A ' " j ' : ; iU /' ' 'H '' { - --
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