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    COURT OF EXCHEQUER . bic--a . bns . a . ko another v . g- . adsta-. es .- — - _Xsorajjce _- . . . , ,- „; This was an action by Mr . John Richards and Sir James M _* 6 _ _eg _ r- as director - of the Eagle Assurance Company , to recover from . the Albion Assurance Company the amountof a policy of assurance effected on the 20 th of May , 1845 , by the plaintiffs on the life of Mr . William Cape ! Clayton , who was an officer in the Coldstream Guards , and died in the month of June , 184 S . in the Queen ' s Bench prison , at the age of-thirty years . The question was whether Mr Clayton , who was son of Sir 'William Clayton , Bart ., was , at the time the policy in question was made , and previously thereto , of drunken and intemperate habits ;

    plaintiffs having stated in the usual declaration made by _insurere . that he was of " sober and temperate habits . " The claim was resisted by the defendants -on the ground tbat he was addicted to habits of _intoxication , and it wa _ alleged he ultimately died of delirium' tremens . After much conflicting evidence on the subject the court was adjourned . —On Monday -Mr . Peacock briefly addressed the jury fur the _defenidant -1 and called several witnesses . —John Warner examined : I am an engineer , in the employment of Mr . Clarke , optician , ef the Strand . In 18411 was ia the habit of seeing Captain Clayton . lie was mostly in bis laboratory when I called , and he was always mnddled . He spoke thick . I never saw him before twelve at noon . He was always drinking

    brandy and water . He was generally mnddled from _drinking and smoking . When I went there I mostly fonnd him in thelaboratorv . He generally was amusing himself with a cigar in his m'uth . I assisted in aettin _. np the scientific apparatus for him . _—Crossexamined : He always appeared muddled , and sometime . I saw him more irritable than at others—Sir F . Thesiger : Should you consider a man mnddled because be was irritable . ( Laughter . ) What do you mean by muddled ? —Witness : Out of temper . { Great _langhter-HSir F _. Thesiger : But that is being intemperate in one _sense- ( laughter ) -but from what symptoms did you judge that he was muddled?—Witness : lie was out of temper , and spoke thick . — Sir F . Thesiger : Mow did he walk ' —Witness : Why

    the same as other men ; npon his legs ( Loud laughter . ) I considered him of drunken habits . —Margaret _^ Car ter : I live in Bath-street , Peekham . I lived with Captain Clayton as a cook , when another left him at a " nonplus . " My nephew , who was then in his ser--vice , recommended me . I remained with him four -or five months , up to the latter end of April , 1844 . During that time I always considered him a very intemperate man . Miss Pitt was living with him . I saved him one night from murdering her in a fit of Intoxication . This occurred one night after he returned from Uxbridge , where he had been fishing . He brought two gentlemen with him , who thought she was Mrs . Clayton , hia wife , and as there was in tbe laboratory a gentleman who was aware that she

    was not his wife , she refused to go in lest it might be discovered by the others who she was . He seized a carving-knife out of the cupboard , and rushed upon her ; I caught him by the arms , and prevented his hurting her . He was then under the influence of liquor . He was ont very late every night , except when he had his supper at home on Saturday night He would sometimes return home at three _^ in the . morning , and then he often used to make Miss Pitt ¦ come down stairs , and play him the music . He was very different when not under the influence of liquor . He drank , to very great excess , brandy and water , coloured liquors , and wine . When he got up in _the _siornius he was much depressed , and would drink ¦ pints and soda water . I recollect another occasion

    on . whicb atsupper he fancied Miss Pitt had been too familiar with one of his guests . She was exasperated at the accusation , and struck him on the head , and knocked his hat , which is commonly called bon etting . ( Laughter . ) She went np to her bed-r _. om . He followed her , and knocked her down . I uith difficulty persuaded him to sleep on the couen in the sitting-room tbat night . After his supper he _* a 3 always intoxicated . I have seen him knock the stems off the wine glasses . I have seen him do it with the poker . ( Lanobter . ) In fact his habits were— " drinking" ( Laughter . )—Crossexamined : My _neahew left before I did . 1 was mostly i'i the kitchen , bat it was on a level with and _facing the room they . dined in . Nine or ten

    times while he was there he made Miss Pitt get up and play the music . Run-fit lived there at the time , and several complaints were made to bim abont the noise of ihe mu-ic—Sir F . Thesiger : Did be dance ? ( Laughter . )—Wit __ ess : I do not think it nece-sary to say whether a man dances to show he was an intempera _' e roan . ( Laughter . ) I know nothing ef this case , —( laughter)—for I was only _subficeaaed yesterday . ( Much laughter . ) I never went to bed till he came home , though he had alatch-k-y . Sometimes he turned off the gas and sometimes I did . —Sir F . Thesiger : How did he show his intoxication '—Witness : Why , you have seen persons in every stage of intoxication . ( Laughter . - A man _intoxic-ited ,. yon see , is a man

    intoxicated . _( Lingh _. er . )—Sir F . Thesiger : I _perfectly agre- to that ;—( _laughter)—but you say he was very different when drunk and sober ; now how was he different . ' —Witness- When he was sober he would go no and down stairs like a reasonable man one step at a time , bnt when he was drank he would run up three or four steps at a time , hallooing and crying out " Let , let , let- " In fact , a drunken man is a drunken man . I told you he was a drunken man , and I do not think I have any reason lo say more . ( Laughter . )—Sir Frederick : Ton have to satisfy me . —Witness : That is quite unnecessary . ( Laughter . ) He was very " obstropolous . " I call any man " obstropolous" who strikes an innocent woman . —Thomas Lambert the nephew of the

    preceding witness , gave evidence of a very similar character . He said that he often went to fetch the captain from the Cider Cellars . He gave a veiy distinct account _« f the intemperate habits of Captain _Clajton . —Henry Hembrey , head-waiter at the Cider Cellars for eleven or twelve years , examined : 1 knew tbe late Captain Clayton . 1 first became acquainted with him in 1842 or 1843 ; he frequently attended tbe Cider Cellars . I used to wait upon him at his lodgings In Castle-street . He was there every evening while in town . He wonld play a game or two of billiards . He used to come . there at seven or eight in the evening . He used to leave at all hours , seldom early . While there he used to have brandy and water , sherrv and water , hollands and water ,

    soda , and brandy . He frequently had neat spirits in the bar . He used to come in the bar and have a glass cr lwo of sherry -when _hefiret came in . He continued drinking , and smoking till he left . I mean , as soon as one glass was empty he would order another . ( Laughter . ) In the course of an evening he , on one occasion , was charged fourteen g lasses . He objected , bat die waiter , I think , was correct . He usually of a night took nine or ten tumblers . He mixeJ his spirits mostly- He was when he left the house generally in a stale of intoxication ; he could walk . When he had a party be would leave us at twelve ; but bis general habit was smoking , playing at billiards , and drinking . When I attended at bis house he used to have friends with

    him ; he used to drink a great deal more tban they did . I used to leave before they retired ; but he was never sober . He was not a man of sober and temperate habits . —Cross-examined : Mr . Rhodes was landlord of the Cider Cellars . 1 am now speaking of the latter end of 1843 to May or June of 1814- ¦ He was absent during portions of that period . He played billiards with any one in the room . I used to play with him . I am the marker . He played a middling game . ' De was principally in the billiard room . I used also to drink . It was play an ' l pay . ( Laughter . ) He paid for me . I was fond of _hiandy and water . I used to drink with other gentlemen as well as Captain Clayton . _^ I cann ot savl was always steady . I do consider

    myself a person of drunken and intemperate habits . I generally g" home _nretty comfortable . ( Laughter . ) —The Lord Chief Baron : Shall I take that down , thatyon are of intemperate habits ? ( Laughter . )—Witness nodded assent amidst much laughter . — Cross-examination continued ; I attend the captain and friends at Jnllien ' s mask ball . —Mr . Peacock : In what state were they ? -Sir F . Thesiger : Disguised of coarse . ( Laughter . ) Wituess : Captain Clayton was certainly not a temperate man . —Major Broom examined : I reside at Uxbridge , and knew the late Captain Clayton . In May , 1844 , I first knew him . I could judge of his habits from May to August He was certainly not of sober and temperate ' habits . I have _freoaentlv seen him drink to

    excess . We went oat to fi _. h at ten , and he would drink nearly a pint of brandy before . dinner time . He was elated before dinner , that is rather intoxi _* cated . He rarely went to bed perfectly sober . He used to drink spirits neat in the morning . —Crossexamined * . I am in the Militia . I volunteered in _ 8 I 3 to the Second Provisioral Battalion . I am a major in the Spanish service . I used to meet _o ? _^ _^ ytonattne riTe , i * flnd sup with him . — SurF . Thesiger : Then you quartered upon him?—Witoesst Id _^ _fortonatel y . ( _Lighter . ) 1 like SOCiety . —Sir F . The _^ ger _. Especially when it is at Mother s expense . ( _Unghter . _y-Cro-s-fxamination _TOntmned : Wewentto _play btqnoh 8 mtel - fot the be r _.- to *? i _w Pe _* _5 _!' 10 tfo _* lnoni -y * _^ e went fishing . _-EiabethNobbs examined : I lived -B cook in

    Captain Clayton s service . Miss Pitt ( who was called Mrs . Clayton ) engaged me m 1844 . Lived withtim for five years and four months Gave the r-ame evidence as to sobriety of his habits . T n _.. _ _*« , _™ _v _„ Ms hampers for him ; two bottles of , _£ j !" . brandy , one of gm , three or font bottles oi _^ i ladtira and as many of ale , aud three or four bottles 0 . _ d _ . water . He could not get to dinner without rest because he waa so far gone in liquor . At dinner he _esed to drink soda and brandy , and s _pmetimesa glass of sherry . After dinner he had sherry , soda , and brandy . Hewenttobed jipsy _fivei « b _ - times in a _week—Cross-exa-mined : When the basket , time back it was empty . 1 had no trouble ja _^ _iap _^ kin g tt ( Laughter . ) Sir F . Thesiger : lhd _ he Uke _hig boots off with a Jack ? -Wi _^ . : _^ Jook them

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    boot-jack . ( Laughter . ) — Several other witnesse _* were called , and after they had testified to the same purpose as the foregoinjr , Sir F . Thesiger replied . _ This case was again resumed on Tuesday morn- ' 1 D _?_ ~ TniiCn _** Baron ' _proceeded to sora up the evidence , a process which ' occupied the learned baron about three hours , and eventually left it to the jury to consider whether , at the time that the declaration had been made , and npon which tbe policy m question had been ultimately effected , the late Captain Clayton ' had so far indulged in intemperance as that it had become what was denominated and regarded as a habit —The jury retired from court , and , after a very brief absence , returned with a verdict for the plaintiffs—Damages , £ 539 , the sum of £ 40 being added to the amount of the policy for interest .

    BISHOP OF EXETER T . OORBAM . Chief Baron Pollock delivered the written judgment of the court , on Monday morning , which occupied his lordship in reading nearly three-quarters of an hour . The effeet of the judgment was that therule be discharged , with coats .

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    MASSACRES AT THE SANDAL WOOD ISLANDS . ( From _» he Bbbart Town Herald . ) An account was given in the Herald of the voyage of tbe Elizabeth schooner to New Caledon .., and the accounts brought by that vessel , led to the supposition that not only had the _l-arty at Mr . Fitzgerald ' s becbe-la-mer fishing establishment , at the north end of the island , _been driven away or massacred , but that the French Mission establishment , at Yengin , or fieladeh , had shared the same fate . I he Mary Anne schooner , lately arrived brought further accounts which we regret to state are of a most melancholy character . The superintendent of Mr . Fitzgerald ' s establishment , Mr . David W . Miller , arrived by the Mary Anne , aud by him we bave learned the following particulars : " Feejee Islands , 1849 . —On the 10 th July we Sailed from _Bantaio Harbour in the Mary , cutter , for Balade Harbour New Caledonia , in company with the schooner Minerva and the Sir John

    Franklin . We arrived there after a passage of twenty-one days . On the 12 th of September , the Mary returned to Bilade , to look for the Sir John Franklin , which vessel she expected to find Dad returned there from Sydney . Oa arriving there , _Captain Roby . of the Mary , sent a boat with Robert Hall , an Aroeri- can , and a native of _Rotumah , to procure . water . On _getting up the river they were attacked by natives and killed . After this , two natives cam *; on board the Mary , under pretence of _gelling fish ; the cook went down into the hold , to bring up some yams to exchange for the fish , and tbe captain ' s attention having been drawn io the fish in the canoe , belonging to the natives , tbey split bis head with a tomah- _'wk ; tbey then killed the co- k as be was coming ont uf

    the hold . The only man now left alive on beard the Mary , was' a Rotumah man , whom the natives would not eat , because of disease in his eyes which rendered him almost blind . Tbey cooked the bodies of the captain and crew ashore , after which they burnt the vessel , to the water ' s edge . - This is the statement of the Rotumah man , who managed to make his escape from the canniba l s to Yengin , and who related the facts to . Mr . Miller , who now take * , up the narrative in person , and who writes from Mr . Fitzgerald ' a establishment : —On the 8 th of Sept ., we not having heard of the loss of the Mary , Mr . Fitzgerald sailed for Sydney , I being left in charge ofthe Beche laMer _expedition —the party consisting of John Blake ( an American ) ,

    nineteen Feejee men , one Rotumah man , and Abraham Silver ( an East Indian ) . On the morning of Sept . 20 , the natives brought me some grass for thatching , and appeared on very friendly . terras . About noon , from 300 to 400 of them assembled , and rushed upon us with spears and clubs . We took to our arms , with whicb we were enabled to keep them off till about four p . m ., and two being _killeo aud a number wounded , they retired , 3 nhn Blake , the American , refusing to fight , and holding a correspondence with tbe natives , I took his gun from him and gave it to one of the Feejee men . The na ives continued quiet until the 11 th of October , when a large body of S 00 or 900 natives assembled and commenced an attack on our settlement , which they

    maintained with great determination from eleven in the morning until sunset . One ofthe Feejee men was wounded with a spear , and I had several narrow escapes . The natives had surrounded our hut , and were calling out to John Blake to set fire to it . Several of the natives being killed and a number wounded , we made a rush at them and shot their principal chief , on wbich they all ran away . On tbe following day , finding that our Feejee natives had lost heart , and were constantly crying , we thought i " was best to prepare to leave , as we could not hare stood another encounter with the natives , our amunition being nearly expended , and on the 14 th of Oct . we took the boats and started for Yengin . Having yams and water we pulled up the coast ,

    followed by about 200 natives , until we arrived at Balade . We then landed on a sand bank to recruit , where the natives attacked and obliged us to retake to the boats , one of which being very leaky we left behind . We then pulled to the 8 "Uth-ea _ t , the wind being contrary - arid blowing strong ; during the night I missed one of the boats , and ran to the lee side of a small island where there were no natives . We were obliged to remain here for four days , it blowing and raining very hard . The weather having moderated , we pursued our course to Yengin , and during the passage picked up two natives from the missing boat , the others having most likely been cast ashore and taken to the bush . On the 25 th of Oct . we arrived at Yengin , after _beJDg eleven days in the

    boats , and were kindly received by the French missionaries , and remained with them until the arrival ofthe schooner Mary Ann , when the bishop granted Us a passage to Anatam , from which place Captain Fadden was kind enough to give me a passage to Sydney . I do not think the natives would have attacked us had they nit been encouraged to do st . by the man Blake , who stole a boat and deserted from the schooner _Vanguard , _asborttimepreviovi-ly , and had been living with the natives since . ' ¦ Cook ' s Ba . t Ebr . oua . sg _ . —Extract from the lug of the Rover ' s Bride , dated 11 th December 1849 : " Light breeze ; schooner Rosetta ia company . At 7 a . m . lowered the boat , and . sent the first and _scond mate to trade for sandal wood at Mallaby and

    Bunkett , the vessel cruising between those places . At 2 p . m . Mr . Banner , first mate of the Rosetta , came on board , and stated that he had some suspicions that one of my boats was taken by the natives , he having been trading at Eflbo _, a place about two miles distant from Bunkett , and that about noon the _nitives of that place gave over trading , and informed him that the Bunkett tribe had taken a boat and killed the crew of fi ve men . The Effoo natives then went in the direction of Blunkett , taking with them their , tomahawks and other weapons . On which Mr . Banner returned to the Rosetta , and informed Captain Edwards ; In the meantime Mr . Dill , who had been trading at Bunkett , and had seen the Rover ' s Bride there trading with the natives on very

    friendly terms , went back to the Rosetta for more trade , and on his return to Bunkett found no natives but two , who brandished their spears , and said " No wood to day . " The Rover ' s Bride ' s boat was gone , aad Mr . Dill _having returned to the Rosetta , and informed Captain Edwards of his trip , that gentleman immediately sent Mr . Banner to inform Captain Bell of the Rover ' s Bride Captain Bell immediately made a _rignal to his other boat at Mallaby to return to the ship , and on her arrival he despatched her with two extra hands , ' in company with the Rosetta ' s boat , to ascertain the facts . On their return at 7 p . m . they made the following statement : When the boats arrived at Bunkett the crews landed , leaving one man in charge of each . ' On examining the beach they

    fonnd it strewed with portions of hair and patches of blood ; they then proceeded np the river as far as possible in the boat , ahd , on landing , discovered one ton of sandal _wdod besmeared with bloed , hear which wasthestump ofa tree literally covered with blood , portiens of flesh , bair , & e „ and which from its _appearance seemed to have served the purpose of' a block for this human butchery . Near the stump was found a pistol belt and canvas pistol bag ; no natives were seen , aud not a vestige of the boat _sne the anchor-buoy . Finding that nothing further conld be ascertained they took the sandal-wood and returned to the vessel . Captain Bell then

    consulted with Captain Edwards , and it was deemed best for the _Rovers Bride to _pro-Ced to Anatam , and the Rosetta to continue cruising about Cook ' s Bay for five days , in case , anything further should transpire . OntheSunday prior to the massacre the chief of the Bunkett tribe was on board the Rover ' s Bride , received some presents , and appeared on tbe most friendly terms . Bunkett is a small boat harbour and cre ' ek , on the south entrance of Cook ' s Bay , Erromanga . The following is a list ofthe names of the men killed : —Mr . Wm . Jordan , first mate , of Berwick-on-Tweed ; John Allen , of Liverpool ; Frederick Gardener , of London ; John Burrows , of Glasgow ; and Edward Ward , of Bristol , seamen .

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    Death of Lord _Donrotnk . —This nobleman expired on the 6 th instant at tho Chateau Echingen , Pas de Calais , after . a protracted illness , in his seventieth year . As Astotodwq Cube of Thibtt-five Wounds bt Hollowax ' s Ointment and rots . —Extract of a letter from Mr . Jeremiah Reed , of Molong , near Sydney , dated 25 th Sep ., 1848 . — "To Professor Ilolloway _, Sir , —I owe a debt of gratitude to yon for my almost miraculous cure by the use of jour Ointment and _I'Uls , after seven years intense suffering , caused by exposure to wet and cold . When I commenced using your remediesI had already expended £ 200

    , m other medicines and advice , without any , benefit , and had thirty-fire ulcers on various parts of my body , and pains all over me ; bnt your Ointment and Pills have cured me , and I am now enjoying excellent health . " , XHBiiXE Mr . Youatt , in one of his orations to the members of the Vtterh __ ry College , observes : — _« That by _wunprovements in . modern chemistry , the medical _pro-2 _S ? ° *[ f enabled successively to treat diseases which S __ _Pwrtondy ropposedag not within the reach of medial n » _ n __ f __^ 5 - * _" *• " been manifested for many years , but * _6-u _^^_? _S _?_^ P ° rtence - mankind thaa bj i u , w , " « J < if Blair * ! Gout and _Bteumatic H 1 U . '

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    MONDAY , Jum 8 . HOUSE OF LORDS . '— The T _» Hours Aor _.-v- Petitions in favour of the principle of the Ten Hours Act were presented by the Bishop of London , from certain operatives in Lancashire ; by Lord Fevershau ( 20 ) , from operatives in-the West Riding of Yorkshire , in Lancashire and at Dundee- ; by Earl Grey from the corporation of Newcastleupon-Tyne ; and by tbe Duke ot Richmond ,-from the operatives in the employ of-George . Slater , Burnley , and from the females in the employ of Major Fielden , of Todmorden . On the presentation of the latter petition ,

    Lord Brougham observed , that he had always been an enemy to legislation of this character , considering it to be a mischievous interference with capital and labour . Still , ho thought their lordships were bound to correct the slip which had been made in the Ten Hours Act . He could have wished that there had been no such bill as that now before their lordships , but , as they had intended to do a certain thing by the Ten Hours Act , he thought that the parties interested would have good reason to complain if the Legislature' took advantage of the slip which had been recently discovered . Mrs . Hall ' s Divorce . —Lord Brouoham said that he had now a petition to present on a subject of great importance and of very rare occurrence .

    The petitioner in this case was a Mrs . Georgina Hall , a lady of birth and fortune , residing at Bayswater , who had contracted a clandestine marriage with her present husband in the month of September last . Her maiden namo waa Foley , and her marriage was unknown to her parents . It took place at the parish church ; and at the , church door the parties separated . " So consummation of the marriage had taken-place since , and nothing criminal had taken place between the : parties before . The lady was , therefore , in the unfortunate position of a " maiden wife . " After two months had passed in the hope of obtaining the consent other parents to her marriage—for with ' that object she had postponed its consummation—her

    husband went and cohabited with a young woman of education , a milliner in Bond-street , and in less than four months after his first mariage took his mistress to France , and there intermarried with her at the house of _theiBritish Ambassador . The first marriage was in every respects a valid marriage , though consummation had , not followed it . This _wns proved by a case which had been before their lordships , and . which was known as the case of . ( We did not hear the name . ) Mrs . Georgina Hall had already obtained a divorce . a mensaetihoro , in consequence ofthe adultery of her husband , and she nowprayed for a divorce d vinculo

    matrimonii . This was of > all cases tho hardest ho had ever known . He would take time to consider the courso which he would , adopt ; at present he would only move that the petition he laid on the table . i The recent Post-office arrangements formed the subject of some discussion , in the course of which the Bishops of London and Oxford approved of the stoppage of the Sunday deliveries ; which Lord Brougham , tbe Lord Cms ? Justice , and other peers , condemned , as leading to a worse desecration than they were designed to - remedy , in addition to a very considerable amount of public

    incon-. . ; . The , General Board of Health Bill went through committee , on the motion ofthe Earl of Carlisle . After some discussion and a division upon an amendment proposed by the Earl of Lo--DA ___ for referring the measure to a select committee , the amendment was negatived by a majority of 47 t ' o 18—29 . The Court of Chancery ( Ireland ) Bill was read a second time , on the motion of Lord Brouoham . Factories Bui . —Earl Granville moved the second reading ofthis bill . As there was no objection to the principle of the bill , he thought any discussion on its provisions might be more conveniently taken in committee , which he should propose should be fixed for Monday next .

    The Duke of Richmond had no objection to postpone the discussion to Monday next '; but he must observe that , if the amendment of which he had given notice were not agreed to , he must contend that the factory-operatives would not obtain tbat which was intended to be assured to them by the bill of 1847 . Lord _Wharncupfb observed , that ; there were three parties to this measure—the masters , the operatives , and the Legislature ; and he considered , under all the circumstances , that the proposition of the government was the most practicable one that could be _suggested . Tho noble lord was -understood to object to tho intervention ofa week before the measure was brought on for discussion . Lord Feversiiam should consider himself guilty of a dereliction of duty if he did not declare that there existed but one feeling throughout the manufacturing districts , that unless the provisions of the

    original bill were strictly carried out , a breach of faith towards the operative classes would be committed by the Legislature . lie had presented a great number of petitions from the working classes , u _^ on the subject , ahd they considered tbe responsibility of establishing tbe principle of the Ten Hours Act to rest with the Legislature . They felt that it would be unjust that , because an error was found to exist in the Act of 1844 , and which error was not corrected by the Act of 1847 , therefore . Parliament should pass a bill in 1850 which should increase their period of labour two hours a week instead of passing a mere declaratory Act . Lord Kissaird was understood to express a hope that -when the discussion came on a decision would be come to which would be satisfactory to all parties . At the same time , he believed that there ; prevailed a feeling among the people that , rather than lose the benefit of tho measure altogether , they would prefer the present bill to pass . .

    After a few words from Earl Grasville the bill was read a second time and ordered to be committed on Monday next . _Cousiv Courts Extension Bili ,. _—^ Lord Beabmoni moved the second reading of this bill ., Lord Brouoham announced several objections to the working provisions of the measure , which he should bring forward in the shape of amendments in the committee . Lord CAMPnEU . apprehended many evils from extending the jurisdiction ofthe County Courts over actions involving questions of tort ,, and wished that more time had been allowed for its consideration , as well as to ascertain the results of working the present courts . As the general feeling of the country was , however , in favour of extension , he contented himself with this warning of possible mischief . , The bill was then read a second time . ¦

    Beneficbs in Pluraliit Bill . —Upon th * motion of Lord Ltt-lkto-. their lordships went into committee on this bill . The clauses were agreed to , and the bouse . resumed . ¦' _..,., . ; On the motion of Lord Lanodale , the . Registration of Deeds ( Ireland ) Bill was read a second time . ¦ _'•'¦ ¦ ' Their lordships rose at a quarter past eight ; HOUSE OF COMMONS . — On the order for going into committee upon the Mercantile Marine ( No . 2 ) Bill , , ' ,: Mr . Mow att moved to defer its committal for

    three months , urging that , as the shipping interest had not been relieved , ' as had been promised ; in tho matters of light-dues , pilotage , manning of ships , and registration of seamen , they . had not been fairly dealt _wfAi . Sir Vf . Clay denied that the bill was unpopular amongst the shipping interest of London , though a portion might be averse to it . He beligyed that no measure could be more beneficial to tho shipping interest , it being notorious that the character of tho officers of our ' mercantile marine _was ; not such as befitted the first mercantile country in tbe world .

    Mr . _Clat opposed the bill . He agreed with the princip le of a compulsory examination of masters and mates , and he did not object to g iving commanders increased power ; but he dissented from the other principle , of affording protection to seamen by interference between the employers and the employed . He thought the whole subject should be referred to 3 select committee . . . ' Lord J . Manners likewise considered that there were many matters of detail in the altered billsuch as those relating to local boards , and the system of examination where , there were no looal boards—which would be better considered in a

    select committee . _.-Mr . _Laboucherb distinctly and . explicitly 'denied that tbe measure was unpopular with the shipping interest generally . At Liverpool , Glasgow . Bristol , and other ports , thero was an almost unanimous concurrence with tbe bill ; Mr . Gilmour , of Glasgow , the largest shipowner in the world , and Mr . Green , of London , had assisted him in framing and warmly supported its main provisions . He defended those provisions , and , with reference to that upon which _mostdifiference of opinion existed—the establishment-of recognised shipping agents-he observed that it was likely to conduce not only td the benefit ofthe sailors , but . to that of shipowners . It would have been impossible to engraft the provisions of this bill upoH a _^ n a measure that could have passed this session , but he bad promised to lay before the house at the end of tbo session a consolidation bill for consideration

    next year . Mr . Herbibs believed tbat a large proportion of the shipping interest was not favourable to this measure ; His main objection to it was , that the conditions imposed upon , the Leg islature' when it passed the measure of last year—that the mercantile marine of this country should be relieved _^ _as much as possible of their burdens , so as to eP _^ hle it to sustain a competition with foreigners—had been forgotten . He aid not desire , however , to ob _* Btruotthe progress of this bill ; but would go : into committee to make it as perfect as possible , and he hoped that time would then be given to those who

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    were deeply interested irt if to . ' _consider the effect of its provisions before it passed , into a law . . ?? , , Mr . Cardwrll was decidedly in , favour ofthe measure in its altered state ; ? If the time allowed , it would be- inost important . . o . consider the biber * subjects connected ' with it , but this not being the caiso , the only question was , whether the bill should be passed in the present session . The shipping interest of Liverpool , had been at first opposed to the bill , but Mr . Laboucbcre had met the propositions of the Chamber of Commerce in a becoming spirit . Without , therefore ; denying the importance of the subjects excluded , be was bound to resist the defeat of the measure by time . . Mr . _M'Gregou having made a few remarks in support of the bill , Mr . Moffatt withdrew his motion . Lord J . Manners then moved that the bill be referred to a 8 oleot committee .

    This motion was upon a division negatived . by 120 _agamstSi . ¦ After some observations by Mr . Wawn , in opposition tothe bill ,, the house went into committee ; but it being three o ' clock , the Chairman reported progress , obtaining leave to sit again this morning The sitting was then suspended until five o ' clock , On the house re-assembling , Mr . F . O'Connor presented a petition from merchants , brewers , distillers , proprietors , factors , householders , dealers in exciseablo liquors , and others , residing in the . city of Glasgow ,, against a bill introduced into the House of Peers , which imports to impose greater , restrictions upon the system bf licensing spirit-dealers in Scotland . On the house resolving itself _intocommittee on the _Ecclesmtical Commission Bill ,.

    " Mr . Horsman rose to move his amendment to clause 1 , relating to the appointment of Church Estates , Commissioners . He proposed that the whole commission ' should be limited to three paid and responsible officers , and that the fifty-two present _ex-officio members of the . board should bo removed . The judges , cabinet ministers , nnd bishops pf which it waa composed , had , he observed , their own important duties , which' were incompatible with the due exercise of their functions in the board . He thought that this was especially true of the bishops . He ' quoted Scripture to prove the inconvenience . of . ecclesiastical personages being distracted from . the . spiritual calls that awaited them in their own dioceses , in order tb take part in

    questions affecting the temporal interests of the Church at large . He admitted that he bad often had occasion to speak against existing bishops , but that was because he conceived tbem to be more than other men opposed to the reli gious instruction ofthe people . Lord John Russell preferred to adopt tbe suggestion of tbe committee , which -ras , ' that the most important questions should still be left to the board at large , but ; that a smaller body should be appointed for ordinary matters . After a caution to tbe house from Sir Robert Inolis , against placing confidence in Mr . Horsman ' _s facts , and a retort from that gentleman , Sir Benjamin Hall said that he agreed in

    thinking that the bishops should form no part of the commission ; because thoir conduct had proved how intent they were on using every means to aggrandise themselves to the neglect of their parochial clergy . ' The bishops only attended the board when they wanted to borrow from the fund . Upon these grounds ; which he illustrated by a variety of instances , he should support Mr . Horsman ' s amendment . /¦ ' . . ' Sir G . Gret observed that many of . the charges laid against the bishops by the bon . ' baronet only betrayed his ignorance of the duties really reposed in them as commissioners . For instance , they were not competent td deal with questions of pluralities , as had been suggested by Sir B . Hall .

    Mr . Gladstone observed that the faults of the commission could . hardly be charged against the bishops , unless it were shown that the lay . members divided in a minority against them . . '' . The committee subsequently divided , when Mr . Horsman ' s amendment was lost by a majority of GO to 22 . Mr ; E . _Denison then proposed that three of the commissioners should be paid ; hut after a short conversation , this' and tho following clauses up to No . 0 were agreed to . , Several clauses having been passed , after some miscellaneous conversation and a division , a prolonged discussion ensued upon the clause

    introduced in the House of Lords for providing the gradual appointment ofa series of suffragan bishops , who were to receive a reduced scale of income , and enjoy no parliamentary privileges , but were to fulfil a minor and auxiliary range of episcopal duties . Lord J . Russell moved an . amendment , whereby the operation of tbis clause waa con ' siderably restricted . The committee , then divided , and the government amendment was carried by a majority of 163 to 111 . Majority , 62 . Clauses up to fifteen haying been agreed to the chairman reported progress and . the house resumed . The Corporation of Boroughs Confirmation Bill went throuch committee .

    The Population ( Census ) Bill also went through committee . Mr . Macoregor moved tho addition of schedules providing a variety of . minute statistical returns _regarding tho employments , productions , pos _. essions , and religious tenets of tho dwellers in agricultural districts . Mr . Cornewall _Lewis and Sir G . Grev opposed the . proposition , which would encumber the returns , and must delay the completion ofthe census . After somo lively discussion the motion was withdrawn , A similar bill for Irola _ d was aftorwnvds carried through committee . , The committal . of the Home Made Spirits in Bond Bill having beon put , the Chancellor of the Exchequer without any further remark , moved that it be committed that day three months . . The house divided— J

    For going in committeo 120 Against 121 Majority 1 The house adjourned at a quarter to two o ' _clocli

    TUESDAY , July 9 . HOUSE OF LORDS . —Death or the Dukr op CAMnRiDOE . —The Marquis of Londonderry , after enumerating the virtues of thelato Duke of Cambridge , proposed that tho house should show its respect for the illustrious deceased by an immediate adjournment . Tho _Mnrquis of LAPi-DOWNE , while ho entirely subscribed to all that had fallen from the noble Marquis , still must object to tho motion for an ad

    journment _, partly because it was unusual , butmore especiall y because it would . deprive the house of an opportunity of condoling with her Majesty and the Duchess' of Cambridge , by voting an address of sympathy in the bereavement which had befallen the Royal Famil y . After ' some discussion it was agreed tbat the Marquis of Lansdowne should , proposo two addresses of condolence—one to her Majesty , the other to the Duchess of Cambridge , and that the Marquis of Londonderry should withdraw his motion of adjournment .

    The two addresses were accordingly voted new . con ,, and the motion withdrawn . The re port or the _Pavliameiitavy Voters ( Ireland ) Bill was ' received , and tho third reading fixed for Friday . , ; The ; Metropolitan Interments Bill passed through committee , the Elections ( Ireland ) Bill was read a second time , a number of other bills were forwarded a ' stagc , and their Lordships adjourned . H 0 USE ; : 0 F _COMMONS . —This house was occupied during the morning _sitting , in Committee , with the details of the Mercantile Marine Bill , until past three o ' clock , when tho . Chairman reported progross , to sit again oh Thursday , morning . . ¦ ' - ' ' _AmaBjouriimbnt then took , place until five o clock . When the house re-assembled ,

    • TnE _National Land Company . —Mr . , F . O' _Connot . presented ii petition relative to the affairs of this company , and moved thatit bo read by the clerk atthetable . : ' The Clerk had commenced reading the petition , which purported to be from Mr . Feargus O'Connor and others , directors and shareholders in the National Land Company , when Mr . Roebuck asked if the hon . member was competent to present a petition from himself ? The Speaker intimated that he was not , but said he might give it to some other member to present . Ml ' . ' P .. _P'CoNNon . — Thank you sir ; then Til ask the lion , member for Rochdalo to present it

    forme . Mr . S . - Crawford subsequently presented the petition , which prayed the , house to give leave to bring in a bill , to . dissolve the company , notwithstanding that tho period fixed by the , orders ofthe hoU 8 efor presenting petitions to bring in private bills had elapsed . ' Death of the -Dork of _CAMiiiunG-U — Lord J , _RnSBBLL paid a similar compliment to the deceased prince , as that passed in the Peers , and the house agreed to addresses of condolence to the Queen and the Duchess of Cambridge , TnE County Franchise . —Mr . L . Kino then rose for leave to bring-in a bill to make the franchise in counties _hr England nnd Wales the same as that ih _borouffhs . breivinir the right of voting to all ;

    ocoupiers of tenements of the annual value of * 10 . 'Ho was aware that many hon . gentlemon pn that ; side of the _. _houae were as _an-vious as be was for a considerable measure of Parliamentary reform ; and the hon . " member for Montrose had ; year after jear , brought fo . wnrd a most comprehensive measure of reform , which had been supported b y increasing minorities , " but which had been opposed on the ground that ' in its main features it resembled ; wh ' at ; wasoalled' _*' the Charter . " ' He ( Mr . King ) , considered- that' tbe peaco and tranquillity this country had _enjoyed during the last twO years was in a great measure owing to the reform adopted in 1832 , and to the fact that the people looked forward with confidence to the accomplishment of further reforms .

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    ' _¦ : ¦) _, ' ,. ' ' The house must change their prejudices ; they must amend their laws and alter thoir system ; because the ideas ofthe peoplo had greatly , changed and improved . The Reform Act had g iven to £ 10 householders in certain towns tho right to exercise the franchise ; and it had now come a grievous anomaly and injustice that persons _paying a rental something short of £ 50 , but not residing , in a horoughtown , should not be represented at all . It was the great principle of our constitution that no matt should be taxed unless he was represented ; and yot persons in this situation were taxed ,. and that heavily , too , without , doing represented . Many men who had good houses in the country , worth somewhat less than * 50 a-year , who keDt taxed servants , taxed

    horses and carriages , and who contributed largely to the . exponses ofthe State in tho shape of incometax , window-tax , and other aasesscd taxes , were not allowed the privilege of a vote ; , while a man who held freehold property of the annual value of 40 s , a-year in forty different counties would possess as many different votes . Why , ho would , ask , should a , £ 10 householder in Andover be entitled to vote for two members for that borough , while a £ 40 householder , at Basingstoke would not be entitled to vote at all ? Why should a £ 10 householder at _Reigate have a 198 th share in sending a member to parliament , while a person living in a larger and better house at Croydon , but paying something short of £ 60 a-year , was not allowed to have

    _l-. G _. _OOOth share in returning members for the . eastern division of Surrey ? He had a list of twenty-two boroughs , each of which , with two exceptions , returned two members to parliament ; and in no case did the electors amount to 400 . The total number electors in those boroughs was 6 , 885 , so that , on the average , one member was returned b y 163 electors ; while in the West Riding of Yorkshire 36 , 000 electors had cnlytwo representatives . Surely tho £ 10 householders who lived in populous but unrepresented towns had just as much pecuniary stake , and wore likely to possess as much political wisdom as their nei ghbours who lived in small boroughs _, lle must also remind the house of the undue influence whicli might be exercised by a few large proprietors in the smaller boroughs . It had been

    proved by the reports of election committees , that a few hundred shopkeepers in certain boroughs in the south and south-west of England , by selling their votes , neutralised the effects of the franchise which had been given to such large towns as Manchester and Birmingham , ne thought the house ought to give their assent to liis proposal , which would destroy a great anomaly , and would remove a sense of injustice which now existed in the minds of hundreds and thousands of people . This measure would , at all events , test the sincerity of the hon . gentlemen opposite who still clung to protection , andwho boldly asserted that the great body of the people were in favour ofa bread-tax , for it would giro them tho means of trying that question in

    thoso very districts whore thoy alleged that distress existed to the greatest extent . ( Hear , hear . ) For his own part , he was most willing to Bubmit tbe question in that manner to the great body ofthe people , and he had no doubt the verdict of the people would be one b y which tho cause of plenty and prosperity . would be permanently established . ( Hear , hear . ) : . Mr . Hume , in secondingthemotion , said . tba . as his opinions on the subject of reform were very well known , it would be unnecessary for him to detain the House at any length . The noble lord who introduced the Reform Bill had admitted he was prepared , to carry it still further , but he had not said to what , extent , although the noble lord had certainly declared against the measure to which he

    ( Mr . llume ) had advised the House to assent , if they . wished to g ive contentment to the people . He ( Mr .. Hume ) maintained , that the more tho people were trusted ,, the more faithfull y would they act towards their country , and the more likely would they be to resist any attempts that might be made to . interfere with institutions that were really valuable . He asked the noble lord in what way any progress or advance , towards reform could be made with less risk and danger , than in : the mode proposedby his honourable friend . lie thought it was only an act of justice to extend to £ 10 householders in counties the same privilege that was possessed by £ 10 householders in boroughs . There could ho no danger in such a measure , for persons occupying £ 10 houses in tho country were , in many cases superior to thoso who occupied houses of the same value in towns . lie considered that . an extension of the number of the constituency , so far

    from affording any cause for alarm _s would increase the safety and security of the country . What was tho state ofthe suffrage at this moment . He was sorry to find , from a return laid upon the tablo ft few day . since , that during the years 1849-50 there had been a decrease in the number of county electors in England and Wales of between 5 , 000 and 0000 , although in the boroughs there had been an increase of 15 , 442 . Ho thought the motion of his honourable friend was extremely well timed , and he hoped the honourable and gallant member for Westminster ( Sir D . L . Evans ) would allow the Ilouse to take a division simply upon the question , He approved tho amendment of that honourable and gallant member , but he feared it mi ght endanger the success of tlie motion of the honourable member for East Surry ( Mr . King ) , and he would therefore advise the honourable and gallant member to . postpone his amendment and to bring it forward on a future occasion as a substantive

    motion . , Sir . De L . Evans said if he thought the amendment of which he had given notice would interfere in the least degree with the division on the motion of the hon . member for East Surrey , ho would readily comply with tho request of the hon . member for Montrose . But ho wished to remind bon . gentlemen that though he had now placed his motion in the shape of an amendment , it had been submitted to the house in tho form of an _original motion two or three , months before the hon . member for East Surrey gave notice of his proposition . Ho would , however , leave himself , with regard tothe withdrawal of the amendment , entirely in the hands of his hon . friends . In his opinion , the motion of tho

    hon . member for East Surrey did not go hy any means far enough . He must remind tbe house that the measures of reform which were adopted eighteen years ago were not accepted by the Reform party as a complete and adequate reform , but purely as a compromise , to prevent any disturbance of the peace and tranquillity ofthe country . Those measures were accepted merely as ' an instalment ; and be considered that tbo intellectual and moral improvement which had taken place among the people , and especially among the humbler classes , since that period , had peculiarly , qualified them to be entrusted with constitutional ri ghts . He cautioned them not to pursue tho samo course _thutwas taken in France two years ago , where , in consequence

    ofthe refusal of a gradual extension of tho franchise , a revolution had broken out , and universal suffrage had been obtained by the people , though tbey would have been satisfied with less if it had been conceded to them in time . What , then , ho would propose was , firstly , "to render the payment of any income or property tax a qualification to vote for members of Parliament for the county or borough in which such payment shall havo been made , provided that no person shall be so entitled unless ho shall havo been resident for thc space of twelve months preceding within the said county or borough and shall have been duly _rogistefed ; " secondly , ' , ' to render the payment of poor-rate as occupier « f any premises livted as of tho net annual value ol *

    or upwards a qualification to vote for members of parliament for tho county or borough within which such porsons are situated , provided the nei-on -joying . such rate * shall havo occupied such premises for twelve months preceding , and havo been duly registered ; " and , thirdly , ¦ " to render deposits in savings banks of a certain amount a qualification tovote for members of parliament , with tho provision of twelve months preceding residence and of registration , and of twelve months' preceding duration of such deposits . " Under the present system taxation pressed unequally , and the greater burden of it fell upon the poor ; but redress had never been obtained by conviction or argument—reforms had never been mado until thero was danger or

    alarm of . an msurrcotion m the country ; but that was not a satisfactory state for the Legislature to be in . _> Ho rejoiced , indeed , that the reforms of thc last few years had been made , for otherwise , in the present excited state of Europe , a revolution mi _^ ht have occurred here . There was a greater necessity that the House of Commons should be made a just equlp _oisb to the House of Lords , for the latter was decidedly hostile to any measures of reform , so that the two branches of the Legislature were always in danger of a collision . From the constitution of the liouso of Lords thero was always a majority in it against a reform Ministry , but that was an unsafe and insecure state of things , and it behoved the

    house to prepare for occurrences that had taken place elsewhere In tho memory of hon . members . Even that house was so aristocratical ns hardly to represent the feelings of " tho people , and constituencies were uhdor the influence of largo landed proprietors . He remembered an advertisement ofthe late Mr . Robins , in which , speaking of the advantages of a " magnificent estate , " he numbered amongst . them the "political influence extending over 1 , 200 independent voters . " ( A laugh . ) With these observations , he would propose an amendment embodying the propositions to which he had referred , if he understood from the ri g ht hon ; gentleman in the chair tbat he could move it without preventing a division on the

    original motion . ¦ The Speaker said , tho question whether the hon . - gentleman oould move his amendmont without preventing a division on the original motion must depend entirely on the opinions of the house . Sir De L . Evans thought there _< would be no chance of a division in favour of his amendment , and would therefore hot trouble the house by moving it .. "•' •' ' Mr . _Ai-COOK complained of respeotable porsons , particularly medical men , who , ia consequence of

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    residing in houses at a rental of not quite £ 50 ayear , had no voto for the coumy . In the town of _" _psoin , in the county he represented , there were six medical men in that Situation , ;' . ¦ . . Mr . Q . Thompson said , tliatnever had his question ocen brought forward at a moro important time than the present , when , in consequence of the state ot parties ik that house , the liberal measures of the government were defeated . The evidence which had _^ accumulated on the table of the house since the Reform Bill showed that our present system of

    _respesentation was the most unequal and absurd in the world . Out of sixty-two borough * with constituencies under 500 , forty-one wero uncontested at the last election , and yet those borou' _-hs returned fifty-three members . There were al . o thirty boroughs , with constituencies between 500 and 1 , 000 , and sending forty-three members to Parliament , in which there was no contest , and he might assert , without fear of contradiction , that those boroughs wero the private property of peers and wealthy proprietors , and that the people in them had no voice or share whatever in the elections .

    But let bim compare those seventy-one boroughs with fifty of the largest . The gross number of _eleotors in the seventy-one boroughs was 36 , 767 , whilst in the fifty largest , returning only ninetynino members , the ' number of electors was 270 , 247 . The peoplo knew well that in such a state of things there was no responsibility on the Treasury bench to the country at large . They had had Ministers dismissed from largo constituencies , but still they were not dismissed from office . If-they were ejected from Westminister they came in for Harwich . ( A laugh . ) The return to wliich he had before referred showed that the fifty larger boroughs returned no more members than the . oventy-one smaller ones , although the former contained seven

    times as many electors , seven times aB many houses rated to the relief of tho poor , and six times as many inhabitants as the latter . Of the ninetynino members for the seventy-one boroughs seven voted for the hon . member for Montrose ' s last motion for extending the franchise , forty-three voted against it , and forty-nino were absent from the division . Of , the members for the fifty boroughs forty-seven voted for tho same motion , _twentyseven against it , and twenty-five wore absent from the divisions . Amongst those wbo voted against tho motion were twelve occupants ofthe Treasury Bench , namely , the First Lord ofthe Treasury , the Attorney and the Solicitor General , the Chief Poor Law Commissioner , the Second Poor Law

    Commissioner , a Lord of the Admiralty , a Secretary of the Treasury , and other holders of office , whose total salaries amounted to £ 25 , 000 a-year . Taking two groups of fourteen boroughs eaeh , one from the top and the other from the bottom of the list , it appeared that each group returned the same number of members , although one contained tfrty-one times as many electors , and thirty-one times as man y inhabitants , as the other . In 1847 the registered electors of the Tower Hamlet- numbered 19 , 350 . There were silting in the house andvoting on all questions affecting the rights , interests , prospects , and destinies of the masses of this country , eighty-two members , representing nfty-eight boroughs , whoso united constituencies

    amounted to only 19 , 282 voters , being sixtyeight fewer than the constituency of the Tower Hamlets . ( Hear , hear . ) According to the census of 1841 , the population of the Tower Ilamletswas 419 , 730 . Ninety-three members of the house represented boroughs whose united population was 419 , 259 , being 471 less than tbat ofthe Tower Hamlets . In a house so constituted what chance was there of any Liberal measures being carried ? Would tho noble lord at the head of the government be frank enough to explain how , in the present st .. te of parties , he meant to maintain his position , and to secure for the people the benefits of past legislation ? He had had opportunities of testing the feeling of the country , and found it in favour of

    extending tho franchise to the labouring classes . If the noble lord should not divulge a serious intention to improve the representation of the people , he and those about him must give way to a stronger party , and the friends of reform wouid support any party which would secure tho people something like beneficial legislation in that'house . Government could not adopt a wiser course than to occupy themselves during the recess in maturing some great measure of reform . By declaring that to be tbeir intention they would unite their dissatisfied supporters into a phalanx . The noble lord at the head of the government well knew that the support he at present received was reluctantly given , and that many members had heen censured by their

    constituencies for . the votes they had g iven to maintain the existence of the government . ( Hear , hear . ) If ministers should still preserve silence on the subject of reform , they would do more than destroy their official existence , and prove themselves recreants to the principles they once avowed . They would betray the Liberal cause into tho hands of its enemies , and do all in tlieir power to reverse the policy to wbich they had so often declared their intention of adhering to , and , instead of earning the gratitude of the country , by following out thc work in which they nobly engaged twenty years ago , they would receive and deserve tho condemnation of the people for trusting rather to patronage and tho eleemosynary _supportof gentlemen the

    on other side of the house than to tho justice and grateful attachment of the British nation . ( Cheers . ) Mr . Henry Drummond said , he had so often advocated in his own county the resolution submitted to the house , tbat ho felt ifc impossible to avoid supporting it now ; but in so doing ho W . lS mo _. 0 anxious to separate himself from all tho av - Uments which had been urged in its favour by hon . gentlemen opposite . ( Hear , and laughter . ) Tbo motion in itself was very Bimple . It could produce no harm ; and , as the bill could not pass during the present session , under any circumstances , he would be sorry if government should think it worth while to oppose it . ( Laughter . ) The hon . member who spoke last said he had tested the feeling of the

    peoplo all over the country . That was a slip of tho tongue . The hon . member meant to have said , not that ho was a tester , but an exciter of feeling . ( Hear , and laughter . ) He had read accounts ofthe hon . member ' s proceedings whilst following that laudable occupation .. It was impossible to doubt the fact of excitement prevailing in the country , because the party to whom the hon . member said the noble lord at the head of the government owed his position had avowed that the Whole of these reform measures were proposed with a view to the establishment of a republic . ( "No , no , " from tho Ministerial benches . ) "Yes , " continued the hon . member , " you know very well that it is so . '* ( A laugh . ) One of the hon . members opposite had declared that he always went to a public meetin

    g with extracts from the speeches of tho hon . member for Buckinghamshire , which served him as a sort of pocket pistol , ready to be discharged if occasion served . Kow , be liked to follow a good example , and he was prepared with his pocket pistol , whidh he would discharge at hon . members opposite if they ventured to challengo him . ( A laugh . ) Jf he wero driven to quote , tho Reformers might find themselves _soa-ewhat embarrassed by tho extracts he would read : — " That eagle ' s _fnto and mine aro ono , Who , on tho shaft that saw him die , Espied a feather of his own , With which he wont to soar so high . ( "Hear" nnd laughter . ) The inequalities in the

    , representative system whichtho hon . member for the Tower Ilamlets had _pointed out , formed tho ground on which reform had always been advocated in this country . The arguments now employed by tho hon , member were used by reformers in old times , and were answered by Mr . Canning in this way—that what you call representation , that waa to say a certain number of persons returning a certain number of members , was never the constitution of England . ( Hear . ) It was the constitution of the present French Republic , but it never was the constitution here . The members returned to the English Bouse of Commons were always tho representatives of interests , and thus the voters for the representatives of land in the counties and of

    trade in the towns possessed different qualifications . It must be granted that tbe Reform Act had destroyed that original principle of our representative constitution , and looking at the principles on which the Reform Act proceeded , he did not think it was possible for the government to avoid adopting the scheme of electoral divisions , ' but if thoy should adopt it it would be utterly Incompatible with the existence of everyone of the institutions of the country . ( Hear , hear . ) Establish _, electoral divisions and all power would at once be lodged in the bands of tho shopkeepers , for they were the most numerous class . Tho hon . members over the way announced it to be their intention to keep up continual agitation , whicli they thought essential to the existence of the government . Indeed , they seemed to suppose that the use of a government was to agitate . ( Hear , hear . ) They also talked of tho necessity of Ministers

    introducing what were called "large and liberal measures , by which it was conceived thoy would succeed in giving stability to tho government . How a government could be stable which was always engaged ia agitation _^ ho did not know . ( " Hear , " and laughter . ) rlor was it easy to discover what was meant by tho word . " liberal" unless it was employed to keep the word •• Republic" out of sight . ( llear . ) The phrase "large and liberal measures" meant nothing else than placing ail power in the hands of the people , to the exelusiou of tho Crown , tho House of Lords , and all those classes which hon . members opposite called the "¦™ ' - _™? _' _& ( Hear , hear . ) Thero was no doubt about the matter-the honest portion of the p _ry avowed that to bo , tho \ _v object . The _^» _S _ J _"* 5 Tower Hamlets seemed to think that a member < _rf _^ Parliament should always _joto with 9 . view to pleasing his constituents . It was _hiai ( Mr . __ _Drammond ' _s _] belief that no man could faihfully d _^ charge his duty as a member of Par _'" _^ _nt _wto looked to pleasing bis co U-UtUQit-s by the votes a

• Citation
  • Northern Star (1837-1852), July 13, 1850, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns2_13071850/page/7/