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      • - " Tcesdji , Fbb . 4 ih , 1845 . OPENING OF THE SESSION .- ; ^ „ n « iiB £ of Parliament by her Majesty iaperv * ^ e ^ dt which usually attracts a large con-^ !! r her Majesty ' s "loyal" subjects to witness o a >& : ™ i c 0 rtW as it trends its way from the Palace ^ Honse ' * Lords , and on this occasion the fine-** * / fhe weather gave an additional impnlse to the i *^ rf many to testify their "loyalty" to her dSfl ^ L j ^ t a quarfer to two o ' clock the report of ^ n announced that Tier Majesty and her illus-0 ° ™ Qaasort had entered the state carriage , and b & JL afjerwards the Royal cortege was seen emerg ^ irW the Palace gates . At a quarter past two j !§ . A-firtnonf cannon was repeated to annnunra

      & % * corteqe had reached its place of destination—^ flense of Lords . TYifliin the hody of the house " ^ jSt was on tiptoe . The attendance of ladies on S ^ ^ aaon to witness the interesting ceremony was irreater than usual . The doors of the house were ¦ iei at t ** ° " dw *» ^ quickly every seat was ^ jed by those who had been fortunate enough to jSin tickets of adioission . But-few-peers were ^ mt , and it was fortunate that the gathering was F jjj ^ as the benches usually iept vacant for their fwkhJP 5 ' accommodationwerelaid siege to by the foir Suits wholooked with imploring eyes to the mesfTwrio provide them with places . The dresses of j ?^ of them were brilliant ; satin , velvets , and silks ^ rtlaewereinrich profusion ; wlulefeafliersaHd v j -j ^ dscastarichlnstee over the fairforms of those jSnvjorethem . The corps dtpfoma % u <; musteredin

      " w bodv , and stars and orders on splendid nmfanns ^ dittoed ** ° ^ ambassadors' bench . The nnke 5 Wellington entered in his jeer ' s robes at Lfpast one . His Grace appeared in good health rjjd mints , although rather infirm . The Lord Ghan-Sfor next entered . At a quarter to two a flourish oi inanpets ajmotmcedtheaiirralofltoyaliy . Again afloarish of trumpets was heard , and the appearance 0 fthe heralds in the portal of the house told to many jjnstant eyes that her Majesty was approaching . < p , e . Royal cortege then advanced , the Marquis of Winchester holding the cap of maintenance , the Earl peiawarr the ; crown , the Duke of "Wellington the jyord of state . His Royal Highness Prince Albert j ^ her Majesty ' s hand and led her to the throne . Buccleuch in attend

      gff Grace the Duchess of was - ance on her Majesty as Mistress of the Robes . It jad been reported that his Royal Highness the Prince o flfcles was to occupy the chair of state on the right jind of her Majesty ; but hisRoyalHighness was not MtaoiL Prince Albert sat in the chair on the left if the throne . Her Majesty , who looked in perfect health , wore the Royal purple robe over a dress of white satin , and a tiara of Dr iltiants on her head , tgs Royal Highness Prince Albert wore the uniform af the Life Guards . As soon as the Members of the Boose of Commons appeared at the bar of the house , the howl Chancellor landed the speech to her Majesty , and her Maiesty proceeded to read , as follows : " UT LoaOS AND GENTLEMEN ,

      « i ^ joice that I enabled again meeting you in far & nBentto congratulate you on the improved condition h & c country . « Increased activity pervades almost every branch of fflinnferture . Trade and commerce have been extended » t home and abroad , and among all classes of my people thereis generally prevalent a spirit of loyalty and cheer ful obedience to the law . « I continue to receive from aU Foreign Powers and States assurances of their friendly disposition . « 1 lave lad much satisfaction in receiving at iny Court the Sovereigns who , in the course of the last year , visited ftiscanntry . "The journey of the Emperor of Bussia , undertaken at agrest sacrifice of private convenience , was a proof of the friendship of his Imperial Majesty most acceptable to myfeenngs . afforded

      " The opportunity of personal intercourse thus tomemay , I hope / be the means of still further improviny Sose amicable relations . , which have long existed . between Great Britain and Sussia . " The visit of the Vine of the French was rendered { Specially welcome to me , inasmuch as it had been preceded by discussions which might have impaired the good imderstanding happily established between the two countries . " I regard the maintenance of this good understanding * 5 essential to the best interests of both , and I rejoice to iritness that the sentiments so cordially expressed by all classes of my subjects on the occasion of his Majesty's tisit were entirely in unison with my own . " feSTLEMEN OF THE HOUSE OF COHMOSS , " The estimates for the ensuing year have been prepared , and will forthwith be laid before you . ¦ " The progress of steam-navigation and the demands lor protection to the extended commerce of fee country will occasion an increase in the estimates connected with

      the naval service . *• Hv Loans asd Gehtixhes , " I have observed with sincere satisfaction that the improvement which is manifest in other parts of the country to extended to Ireland . " The political agitation and excitement , which 1 hare hid heretofore occasion to lament appear to have gradually abated , and , as a natural result , private capital has been oiore freel y applied to j usetul public enterprises undertaken through the friendly co-operation of individuals interested in the welfare of Ireland . " I have carried into effect , in the spirit in which it was conceived , the Act for the more effectual application of Charitable Donations and Bequests . " 1 recommend to your favourable consideration the pjlicy of improving and extending the opportunities for academical education in Ireland .

      " The report of the commission appointed to inquire into the law and practice in respect to the occupation ol ian 4 , is 25 arly prepared , andshallbe communicated to you snmcifiately after its presentation . "Tils state of the lawin regard to the privileges of the Bank cf Ireland , and to other banking establishments in thstcoaniiy and in Scotland , will no doubt occupy your aHeoo ' on . "Tfe Sealth of the inhabitants of large towns and populous districts in this part of the United Kingdom has beta & e adject of recent inquiry Before a commission , the report of which shall he immediately laid before you . "It Kill be highly gratifying to me if the information and suggestions contained in that report shall enable you to devise the means of promoting the health and comfort of Use poorer classes of mv subjects .

      "I congratulate you on flie success of the measures "Mob , three years since , were adopted . by Parliament for fcr purpose of supplying the deficiency in the public f tienne , and arresting the accumulation of debt in the Smecf peace . "The Act which was passed at that time for imposing a tiv upon income trill shortly expire , * "It will be for you in your wisdom to determine « htthtr it may not be expedient to continue its operation araibrtnerperiod , and thus to obtain the means of ade-9 aifcly providing for the public service , and at the same line of making a reduction in other taxation . ~ Whatever may be the result of your deliberations in * jas respect , I feel assured that it will be your determina-*& to maintain an amount of revenue amply snffidentto sfcst the necessary expenditure of the country , and firmly to nphoJd that public credit , which is indispensable to the national welfare .

      "The prospect of continued peace , and the general fat * of domestic prosperity and tranquillitj , afford a m- saiaUe opportunity for tut-consideration ofthehn-P-staat matters to which I have directed your attention , " ^ I commit them to your deliberation , with the earnest Psijer that yon may be enabled , under the superintending Wltaad protection of Divine Providence , to strengthen fit feelings of mutual confidence and good-will between oateren ! classes of my subjects , and to improve the con-® wn of my people . " Ber Sajesty having read the speech , returned it to the wfl Chancellor , and then descending from tie throne , ^ intook the hand of Prince Albert , and , attended by «* great officers of state , proceeded to theKobing-room " ¦ fBoyal corffjeleft the house in the samemannor in *« m it had entered , her Majesty affectionately shaking T ^ whhhisRoyalffighneBsthelWke of Cambridge as ** ; jassed him . Vo have seldom seen her Majesty on a T ^ e occasion in better spirits . The house then ad-T ' SMi

      ^ Majesty read the " speech" (!) in an effective ^ ey . Her perfect enunciation made every word ~ % address be distinctly heard in the remotest jr ^ tf the house . The allusions to the income-^ 3 d ^ to Ireland were listened to with peculiar in-Jp . and some of the peers and commoners ex-^ oged agnijicant glances . Her Majesty read the ^ paragraph of the speech slowly and most emphaaJ ^* Spcaker then bowed and retired with the ^ r ^ pera of the other house . Her Majesty was j Tt" ™ to the long gallery by the officers of state , WsT * im * ^ Peeresses and peers as she left the jrT - ^ rmce Albert also bowed several times . Her hir t touted remarkably well , and seemed to be «« enjoyment of perfect health . « e house resumed at five o ' clock , and almost im-^^ J afterwards .

      totttL ^ " ^ airsoToS laid upon the table a bill , ***» " ^" ^^ ftrthe betterregnlationof Select Ves - ' Wnil * was readafirattime . « BSESS IS AKSWES TO BEB KAJESXX ' fl SKEECH . ^ « ejBotio of theBukeof WEuaKoxoK , b ! r CHAHCHiOK " reported" the Boyal speech , t * adit lansna S e of & * journals , or in other words the » i ? Jen , and the same was subsequently read by ^ i at the table , Bteefe ! , s m "P 1 wWeia » acwrding to unvarying h SaT - * aftithful echo of the speech , was moved * e $ tf * h ' Cua > EH ' seconded by I » rd Qlemtos , th ^ rfiJ ~ esen oblemen confining themselves upon this , < Sss % ^ TaSon of appearing before the House , pretty fen ^ , ™ topics suggested in the speech , and con-M ^ j " ^ ' ^ as they passed each paragraph seve-* " « b & S ! ' ^^ ^^ aring their perfect accordance in tteaaT ^* * expresse d , and recommending them for TbT ^« theu- l () tdslttp 8 .

      Wh ^^ npon fixe address , approved of aU he had ^ 3 proa - ™? measni eB to beproposedb y Government *« h tfcT ^ *** ae « at least would not tannt Ministers ** ^^ °° astea ^ of ^^ Present piopOMas with ^^ uiry , ^ 5 t ° fe 8 sion 8 . He had always regarded the ^ had been in progress as to the tenure of

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      land in Ireland as an unmixed evil , and he regretted to find that the result had justified his anticipations . The amount of agrarian outrage was also greater than It had been for many years , hut lie should not for the present bring forward any morion upon the subject . The Duke of Richmond complained that -while their Lordshi ps were called upon to express their satisfaction at the national " prosperity , " no mention had been made of the agricultural body , or of the losses to which it had in the last year been subject . There was a Board of Trade which represented commerce and manufactures . Why was there not also a Board of Agriculture ? He regretted also that no promise was held out of an alleviation of the hardship with which the income-tax bore upon the agricultural tenant .

      A NOBLE Loeo who followed , expressed his regret that any interference with the Scotch system of banking was contemplated . He earnestly deprecated any change in a system practically so successful , and threatened the unanimous opposition of the Scotch constituencies to such an invasion of their interests . LordWHABSctiFFE said he could not allow the objections whichhadfallenfrom the two noble lords tegowithout reply . The Duke of ^ Richmond had complained , that in the speech her Majesty ' s Ministers had ' not rightly stated the condition of the country , and then he found fault with them because the state of the fanner was not so flourishing as it had been . If his noble friend would look to the paragraph to which his observations referred , he would

      find that the remark respecting the improved state Of the ' country was confined to the condition of the manufacturing , commercial , and trading part of the community . Then with regard to his other noble friend who spoke of ibe anticipated change in the banking system in Scotland , his noble Mend had introduced the word " currency" in what he said , that word not being contained in the speech . The paragraph referred only to the banking establishments of Scotland , and not in the least to the currency . Lord Beodohah , after expressing his satisfaction in strong but general terms with the several paragraphs of the speech , dwelt especially upon the happy effects which had been produced in both countries'by the visit of the King of the French , and the improved state of public feeling towards England in that country .

      The Marquis of Lansdowne , after guarding himself from the impression , that because he moved no amendment he acquiesced in all the opinions that had been ex . pressed , and remarking especially upon the occurrences connected with the State trials of last year , proceeded , in reference to the subjects of difference which had been adjusted between this country and France , to inculcate the necessity in every instance of entering at the earliest period upon a full and explicit explanation . Without this , every insignificant island would become a plaguespot , and any unimportant transaction might he sufficient to disturb the peace of Europe . He objected altogether to the system of protectorates , which , as now constituted , he considered to be entirely innovations , and concluded by an energetic protest against the further continuance of the income-tax .

      Lord Abeedeem , in reply to the observations of the noble Marquis on the subject of mutual explanations , declared that the sat isfactory adjustment of the questions respecting Tahiti had in this very manner been accomplished . The question of protectorates had not been- in any degree involved .- A subordinate officer , without instructions and without authority , had exceeded his duty ; a representation of the circumstances , founded upon justice and urged with moderation , was made to the French Government ; and thus a settlement was arrived at , of which neither party had any reason , or felt any disposition , to complain . He bad asked nothing which he should not himself , in a similar case , have conceded , and upon tbis principle the negotiation had throughout proceeded . Lord Campbell said , that as the bill which he introduced dur ing the last session of Parliament , for the better administration of justice in appeal cases , had been referred to , he wished to say , that unless the Government introduced a measure on the same subject , he should take care to renew the proposition which he had made last

      year . Again and again he was determined to bring it forward , unless her Majesty ' s Government took the matter up . With respect to the better administration of the law , he had no doubt that a variety of measures would be introduced . Doubtless much had been done ; but let it not be forgotten that much remained to be done . Very soon a new Ecclesiastical Courts BUI must he introduced . The law of debtor and creditor was also in an unsatisfactory state , and various other questions of a like nature would require an immediate settlement at the hands of the legislature ; amongst the earliest to which attention ought to be directed , was the bill for amending the law of debtor and creditor , for the most serious inconveniences had already arisen from delay on that subject . He knew that the subject was one of great difficulty . He knew that his Noble and Learned Friend who now sat on the edge of the woolsack ( Lord Brougham ; differed on many points from those by whom that law was administered ; and such a state of things made it only the more necessary that the matter should , with as little delay as possible , be taken up by the legislature .

      The Loan ChakceLLOs said , with respect to the hill which his noble and learned friend had just mentioned , namely , the bill intended to apply to appeals in criminal cases , be should only say , that if asked whether he intended to support or introduce a bill of that description , he should request the House to remember the history of that bill ; it was one intended to meet a particular case , and to afford relief to a particular individual . Bearing these facts in mind , he had opposed the measure then , because he thought that those circumstances of themselves formed constitutional and legal , grouads of objection . Hut in the present session the case was most materially altered , and he should therefore have no objection , under the sanction of the Government , to introduce a bUl having that purp ose in view .

      Lord Bboughah said , as to the law of debtor ami creditor , he should not now go into that question , though he was perfectly ready to vindicate the measure of last year—a measure respecting which the most extensive attempts had been made to mislead the country , though there was really nothing in the bill to produce the misdecision which was sought to be produced . As to the £ 20 clause , they all knew what pains had been taken to show that that clause had upset the retail trade of the country . He was a great friend to that clause ; but he was bound to say that the clause was not his , that-he was jin no respect the author of the clause , for , as many of their

      lordships might remember , it was an addition made m committee . He did not deny the great inconvenience which arose from not tnqVing salaries and pensions liable to creditors ; for instance , a clerk with £ 200 a-year , living in furnished apartments , might contract a debt of £ 19 , and set his creditor at defiance , for the furniture in his lodging could not be seized . Still the £ 20 clause had done great good , and Captain Williams , the inspector of Prisons , had borne testimony to the beneficial effects which it bad produced ; and he believed there was not one instance in which it had diminished the wholesome credit granted by any retailer .

      Lord Campbell stated that the bill had been drawn up by 3 Ir . ( now Mr . Justice ) Erie ; the clause referred to had been drawn up at the request of Mr . M . O'Ferrall . The motion for presenting an address to her Majesty , in answer to the speech from the throne , was then brought up and agreed to unanimously . The house then adjourned to Thursday .

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      HOUSE OF COMMONS—Toesdat , Feb . i . The members of the House of Commons assembled at about half-past one o ' clock ; but the attendance was thin , not more than seventy members being present when the House was summoned to the bar of the Lords . On their return no business was transacted , the Bight Hon . Gentleman immediately quitting the House , and his example being followed by the other members . At five minutes before four o ' clock the Smakeb resumed the chair ; when Mr . Clifton , the newly-elected member for North Lancashire , and Mr . J . Somes , member for Dartmouth , were introduced , and respectively took the oaths in the usual form .

      Mr . J . YoirifG moved that a new writ be issued for the election of a knight of the shire to serve in Parliament for North Wiltshire , in the room of the Hon . Sidney Herbert , who has accepted the appointment of Secretary-at-War . —Agreed to . The Hon . Gentleman then moved the issue of writs for the election of a member for the borough of Buckingham , in the room of Sir T . F . Fremantle , who has accepted the office of Secretary for Ireland ; and for the election of a member for Stamford , in the room of Sir G . Clerk , who has accepted the office of Master of her Majesty ' s Mint . —Both motions were agreed to . , An Hon . Membeb on the Opposition benches moved that the Speaker issue a writ to the Clerk of . the Crown in Ireland for the election of a member to serve in Parliament for Tipperary , in the p lace of the Hon . R . 0 . Cavedeceased . —Agreed to .

      , Lord Ashxet gave notice of his intention to move , on an early day , for leave to bring to a bill to regulate the labour of children in the calico printworks of Great Britain and Ireland , and also a bill to regulate the labour of young persons in mills and factories . Mr J . Tookg gave notice , on behalf of Sir B . Peel , that it was the intention of the Bight Hon . Baronet to make a financial statement on Iriday week , the 14 th of February . „ . Mr . EwAMgave notice of his intention to move tor tne appointment of a select committee to inquire whether the present system of indirect taxation does not press heavily and unjustly on the poor ; also for leave to bring in a bill for the total abolition of the punishmen t of death .

      Mr . WAHACE gave notice of his intention to move on an early day for the appointment of a committee to va quire how many of the railway companies , liable to the provisions of the Aetofthelastflession , haveeompheawJtn the regulations of the 6 tfa clause of that Act , relating to the l » etteraw » nmi () dation of third-class passengers . Also ,

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      that on the 11 th of February he would call the attention of the house to the reports of the Select Committee on Railways , and the constitution of the Committee ; of the Board of Trade intrusted with the transaction of railway business , and the effect of its . decision on the interests of the country . , Mr . WabXET gave notice that , on this day week , he would move for a return describing the diplomas , licenses , and other testimonials approved of by the Poor Law Commissidners as entitling persons ' to practise as ' medical attendants in Poor Law unions in England and " Wales . " .:-Mr . MacKinnon gave notice that , on this day fortnight , he WQttlu call the attention of the house to the necessity of promoting the health of towns , by preventing interments within their precincts .

      POST-OFFICE ESPIONAGE . Mr . T . Duncombe gave notice that , on tills day fortnight , he would call attention to the unsatisfactory and evasive character of the report of the committee appointed to inquire into the opening of letters at the Post-office ; and that he would submit a motion on the subject

      ....... . THE ADMESS The Speaker then reported to the house that he bad been to the House of Peers , where he had heard the speech of her most gracious Majesty from the throne , of which , to prevent mistakes , he had got a copy . The address upon the speech was moved by Mr . GbaBTEHis , who congratulated the . house on the . general prosperity of the countsy , as evinced by the steady , improvement of our trade and commerce , at home and abroad . He regretted that he .. could not call this popularity uni ? versaL inasmuch as ' in the agricultural districts with which he was himself more immediately connected , there existed at present great distress caused by the failure of the crops . He congratulated her Majesty on the friendly state of our foreign relations , which he considered would

      be much confirmed by the visit of three foreign monarclis , Who ha 4 B . Ubeen the guests Of her Majesty , to our shores within the last twelve months . He particularly insisted on the good consequences likely to result from the visit of his Majesty the King of the French , which he looked upon as a security for peace , and of renewed and prolonged amity between France and England . He hoped that a brighter day was about to dawn upon Ireland , in consequence of the abatement of agitation in that country , and of the introduction of measures which , being based on the principles of impartiality and equality between contending sects , were calculated to remove the remnants of national animosity , and to unite all in the lore of our common country . Such a measure was the Charitable Bequests Act of last session , which he considered as a first instalment ; and he looked forward to the Academical

      Education Bill promised by the Government , and to the contemplated measure for the improvement of the tenure of land in Ireland , as instalments which were to follow . He congratulated the house on the increase of the UVty ) V 0 £ derived from the Excise , which he considered as a sound test of national prosperity . He likewise congratulated it on having placed the banking system of England on a safe footing : and hoped that in dealing with the same system in Scotland they would interfere as little as possible with existing interests . He looked forward with confidence to a great amelioration in the moral condition of the poor from the general sympathy which had lately been excited for them in the minds of the higher and middling classes —a sympathy which was testified by the numerous plans which were now daily promulgated and discussed in every quarter .

      Mr . Baking , in seconding the address , insisted on several of the topics which had been noticed by Mr . Charteris . He , too , was of opinion thai the maintenance of peace , of so much importance to the happiness of the world , would be confirmed by the recent visit of foreign sovereigns to this country . He hoped that the visit of the Emperor of Russia to this commercial country would induce him to agree to some relaxation of the commercial restrictions on the introduction of the produce of England within his dominions ; and that the visit of the King of the French would remove those feelings of bitterness

      which had grown up in consequence of the events at Morocco and Tahiti . The interests of England and America were both bound up in the continuance of peace , and he hoped that in spite of newspaper paragraphs in both countries , the good feelings of honest and independent men on both sides of the water would prevent any interruption of it . Indeed , from the mutual interests which sprang up under it , the maintenance of peace was a gua - rantee for its prolonged continuance . As a security for peace , England should he always prepared for . war ; and if the increase of our commercial transactions and the

      introduction of steam navigation had produced new circumstances , which endangered our safety , he was sure that the national spirit would gladly provide funds to meet a necessary expenditure to avert that danger . He spoke in terms of great satisfaction on the flourishing prospects of the iron manufacture , and on the improved condition of the shipping interest . The cotton manufacture , and still more the woollen trade—the latter of which indicated an improved condition of the poorer classes—were also prosperous . The same was the case with the manufacturers

      of flax , hemp , and silk . Our imports and exports had both increased , as was evident , from the Custom-houee returns on tea , coffee , sugar , and tobacco . This prosperity had acted on the'finances of this country , which now appeared in a very satisfactory condition . That condition had arisen from the imposition of the income tax , which had changed a deficiency into a surplus of revenue . If the country was to have relief either from a remission of duty in taxation , or from a change in the mode of raising and collecting the revenue , he thought that it would mjtbe wise to depart from this source of

      income . Lord J . Russell could readily concur in the terms of the address proposed on this occasion ; but there were topics in the speech of her Majesty , and in the address in reply to it , which called for remark . That the visits of foreign sovereigns to this country might be a fresh-guarantee for the continuance of peace must be the anxious wish and sanguine expectation of every man who heard him ; hut it was something singular , that though the mover and seconder of the address were both expressing hopes of peace , Ministers were themselves taking precautions against the contingency of war . He congratulated the House that our amicable relations with France were not broken ; butsaid that he could not participate in those phrases of satisfaction which Ministers used in their

      own praise at the conclusion of the last session . They then thought it right to advise her Majesty to praise the wisdom and moderation with which they had conducted the negotiations with France . He saw no cause for admiring either their wisdom or their moderation . What was the case ? Pritchard had been put under arrest , and had been committed tosolitaxy confinement by the French Commandant at Tahiti , on suspicion of encouraging insurrection among the natives ; and it was communicated to him , that if insurrection took place , he should be held voanansible for all the bloodshed which might ensue . Another French Commandant arrived , who thought that there was no ground for such severity , but Who also thought that it was unsafe that Pritchard should remain at Tahitiand therefore desired him to leave the island .

      , It was impossible not to admit that if Captain Bruat thought the conduct of Pritchard to be a cause of danger , he had a rig ht to remove him ; but to place him in solitary confinement , and to say that he should be responsible with his life for any insurrection , was a gross outrage , and demanded reparation . He was of opinion that if there had been that cordial understanding . between the two Governments of which their partisans boasted so loudly , a satisfactory arrangement might have been made without the delay of two months and without any danger of war . He commented at some length upon the correspondence which had taken place between M . Guizot and the Comte de Jarnac on this subject , and said that those papers made him believe that the twoGovemments of Frauce and England were both too

      " much influenced by the pressure from without , and that the understanding , between them was not cordial and complete . The cloud which menaced the duration of peace had , however , blown away , and he now trusted that Ministers on both sides of the Channel would feel that it was for the interest of their respective nations , and for the peace of the world , that they should remain united , and that they should not suffer their subordinate officers , at a distance of three or four thousand leagues , to disturb their common tranquillity . The present state of Spain had been produced by the cordial understanding between England and France , two of the most free nations of the earth ; and that was a result which no man could be proud of . WhUst he hoped that that cordial understand , ing would yet ripen into friendship , he hoped that it

      would in future be employed in the promotion of commerce , in the propagation of intelligence , in the increase of freedom , in the destruction of slavery , and not for the substitution of a tyrannical Government , for mild and constitutional sway . He was not satisfied with the revival of the commission for the revision of the treaties on the slave-trade ; yet , if they thought that the exercise of the right of search would interrupt peace , Ministers ought to tell the public what could be substituted for it . He congratulated the house on the improved condition of our commercial relations with China , and rejoiced that it had tended much to increase commercial and jnanufactuxin" industry in Great Britain . He referred to the

      paragraph in the address relating to the abatement of agitation in Ireland , and said that , nevertheless , the accounts which be hadreceivedftomthatcountry referred to many symptoms which were highly menacing . Xo man said that there was fear of insurrection or increase of agitation - , hut no man could say that there was that love and affection for the imperial legislature which ought to existin the inhabitants of a rreecountry . Heattributed that want of love and affection to the very injudicious proceedings which had been taken against several leading persons in that country . He then referred at great length to the 0 * Connell trial , and to the reversal of the judgment in the House of Lords , particularly noticing

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      the judgment of Lord Benman , who declared that the defendants upon the record had not had a fair trial , and that if trials were to be conducted in that way , the trial by jury was a delusion , a mockery , and a snare . Ou the question of academical education in Ireland , he did not know whether it was a wise one Or not ; but as it had fed Mr .. Gladstone , whose talents he eulogized highly , to leave the Ministry of which he was so valuable a member , he hoped that some explanation would be given of a measure which . had created such dissension , and appeared so objectionable to the Bight Hon . Gentleman . Every measure of that kind was calculated to excite suspicion , not 0 nl 3 mrjuglanu , but in Ireland also . He quoted the Charitable Bequests Bill as a proof of that position , and imputed the unpopularity of its reception in Ireland to the want of confidence in the sincerity of the party

      which proffered it felt by the population of that country . That party had inflamed reli gious prejudices for years ; and now , when its leaders adopted a better policy , could they wonder that the agitators should throw back upon them the phrases of " surpliced ruffians" and "demon priesthood , " which they themselves once used ! Such was the retribution which always Ml Ottmfcu who , instead of . appealing to sound opinion , appealed to popular projudice , and founded their power on deluding their countrymen . He expressed great satisfaction in seeing that the Government were now adopting several measures which they had condemned when proposed by their predecessors . He ) rejoiced in the present gratifying state of commercial and manufacturing industry , but reminded the house that the prosperity of 183 G had been followed by the distress of

      1838 , 1839 , 1840 . We might prevent- such vicissitudes in future , not by interfering with the dispensations of Providence , but by enabling the manufacturers of , this country to exchange their produce for the productions of other nations . He implored the House to endeavour to ward off the mischief which otner deficient harvests might bring upon us , by giving a freer inlet . to the productions of other countries . He was WnYmceu that protection was not the support , but the bane of agriculture . That the present duties on foreign corn should be diminished , he had no doubt , neither had the Government . He , therefore , insisted that they ought to reduce them , —he would not now say to what amount , —whilst we were as now in a state of calm , and not hastily under popular uproar , when it would be said that we could not refuse what we appeared to grant .

      Mr . Miles wished to know why Lord John had pro . posed a fixed duty , if he was so convinced that protection was the bane of agriculture ? Had his Lordship found it convenient to make a compact alliance with the Corn Law League ? If the income tax were continued , he should claim that in the reduction of taxation the agricultural interests should not be forgotten , Mr . Gladstone entered into an explanation of the reasons which had induced him to retire from the Government of which he had been a member . After thanking Lord John HusseUfor the very kind terms in which he had spoken of his services , he observed that in the statement which he was about to make , he had no blame to cast upon any of his colleagues for any dereliction of their principles or their professions . His statement , therefore , would not be a controversial statement or a justification

      of his conduct , but a mere explanation of circumstances , which if mis-stated or misconceived , might lead to mischievous mistakes . '" He had not resigned on account of any matter connected with that department of the Government with which his sen-ices had long been connected . He bad not resigned on account of any difference of opinion on the intentions , as far as he know of them , of his late colleagues towards the Church either of England or of -Ireland . He had stated to the world formerly , not in haste , but with great' deliberation , the relations which a Christian State ought to have with respect to religion . He had a strong impression that those who had once expressed strong opinions on subjects involving such important principles should not be parties to propose material departures from them . At the . close of last session

      Sir R . Peel mentioned his intention to inquire into the state of education in Ireland , and the spirit With which that education was conducted . He was not in possession of the measures which the Government , were about to bring forward ; and as to Maynooth College , he knew of nothing which they were about to do that might not be safely inferred from what they had done . At the same time he mustsay that the views which her Majesty ' s Government took on that subject differed from those which he thought ought to be . taken on such a question . The spirit of their measure with respect to the endowment of the College of Maynooth differed much from the spirit of that which he had deliberately recommended . His uniform conviction was , that though he was not to fetter

      his judgment by reference to abstract theory , yet that it was due to the public to place himself in a position to form an honest and an unsuspected judgment . He had , therefore , taken a course which had caused him much pain , and which had separated him from men with whom ho had acted in public life , and whom he was bound to say he continued to regard with unaltered sentiments of public ' regard and private attachment , The discussion of an increased grant to Maynooth was connected with excitable topics in this country ; but ho was not prepared to take part in any religious warfare against Sir R . Peel ' s measure—such as he anticipated it might be—nor to draw distinctions between the Roman Catholics of Ireland and others of his fellow-countrymen , so far as regarded their religious creed .

      Sir R . Peei . commenced his observations by referring to the subject-of Mr . Gladstone , for whose talents he felt an admiration which could only be equalled by the attachment he felt for his private character . . His right hon . friend had mentioned his objection to their measure some time ago , and if he had not pressed his resignation it was his ( Sir R . Peel ' s ) fault , as he was unwilling to lose his splendid services as a Minister of the Crown , It was not on account of any difference on the commercial policy of the country that his right hon . friend had resigned his office—on such points there was , and always had been , the most complete unanimity between them—but it was one of such a subject , which he might be permitted to mention to the house , though his right hon . friend had declined . On the motion of Mr . Wyse last year , he , as the organ of the Government , had declared that it was their intention during the recess to apply themselves to the question of academical education in Ireland . He had then admitted that there were not the same facilities for

      academical education m that country that there were in Great Britain ; and he was now prepared at an early period of the session to propose an increase of facilities lor academical education in Ireland , open to all classes of her Majesty ' s subjects . Among other institutions which would be benefitted by that increased vote , the College of Maynooth would be one . The Government intended to propose a liberal increase in the grant to that college , unaccompanied by any restrictions or regulations as to religious doctrines which would diminish its grace and favour . The ' sincerity with which the Government was acting on this subject was evident from the fact that it had persevered in its intention with a full knowledge that it would lead to the resignation of so valuable a colleague as Mr . Gladstone ; and yet the noble lord had taken a party advantage of the liberal policy

      adopted by the Government , and had condescended to make a little insinuation against it , in order to persuade the people of Ireland to reject the proposal , because the Government were the authors of it . He then proceeded to defend the conduct of her Majesty ' s Government in respect to the Charitable Bequests Bill , which they had proposed as a matter of justice to Ireland . The noble Lord had thought it decorous to neutralize the benefit of that measure by again ripping up phrases which had been used in the heat of party contest ; but who could wonder that the agitators used them , when the noble Lord forgot his dignity and followed their bad example ? The words which the noble Lord had quoted were not used by him or by his friends , and he denied that he had ever used Words of insult to the people of Ireland . He considered the speech of the noble Lord as a bitter party speech , and thought

      that his equanimity had been disturbed by the contrast which existed between the speech from the thrpne this year and those speeches which had been made when he was Minister . Then there wasgreat distress—now there was great prosperity;—then there was a deficiency , —now there was a surplus of revenue . He then proceeded to justify the proceedings of the Government in the late negotiations with France on the subject of the treatment of Mr . Pritchard . He had never asked more of the French Government than that which he ultimately got—a fair and reasonable reparation . He should have felt that he was pursuing a course inconsistent with good policy if he had asked for a reparation humiliating to France . He denied that Government had complimented itself at the close of last session on account of its wisdom . All that had been stated was , that the differences had been adjusted by the justice and moderation of the respective Governments of the two countries . He rejoiced in the gdod understanding which now existed between the two countries , as there must from their proximity to each

      Other be a good understanding , or something differing little from downri ght hostility between them . There was not one reparation made b y France to us which he would not have made to France himself if the circumstances had been reversed . With regard to the financial arrangements of the year , he would only remind the house , that an Hon , Friend of his had given notice that it was Ms ( Sir Robert Peel ' s ) intention to bring them forward before the usual time . He should place at an early period the general outlines of his plan before the house , as he thought that when alterations were to be made in our financial policy an early declaration of them was best . Ha wished the noble Lord would take the sense of the house on the question , whether the Government had dishonoured the fair fame of their country by then * course , either with respect to Mr . Pritchard , or to the right of search . He wished the house to declare whether the COHduCtofGo vermnent , In accepting a reparation which was honourable to both-countries , was not a course dictated by wisdom , and justified by sound policy ,

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      Sir C . Njfieu complained of the conduct of the French officers at Tahiti , not only towards Mr . Pritchard , but also towards the commander of the Cormorant . If an English officer had behaved in the same manner towards French subjects he would have been brought to a courtmartial , and would have lost his commission . He thought that sufficient reparation had not been given to this country . He expressed his satisfaction at heart , that a considerable addition was going to be made to our naval force . If it had been made some time ago , we should have heard nothing of these outrages towards Mr . Pritchard , Mr . Plumptbe did not consider the explanation of Mr . Gladstone to be very intelligible . He admitted that Sir R . Peel had last session promised to make further concessions to the Roman Catholics . His announcement

      that he was now prepared to carry that promise into execution would create a considerable sensation out of doors . He was surprised that Sir R . Peel , after his . experience , was not convinced that conciliation was an inexpedient course . Concession was the fruitful parent of demands , and would continue to be so while anything remained to be demanded . v Mr . Wvse observed , that at the close of last session he had not asked for , nor had Sir R . Peel promised to grant , any concession to the Roman Catholics . The grant for education was not to he considered as a mere financial

      question ; it rested on higher grounds : it was a great moral question . He thought that Sir It . Peel had redeemed the pledges on this subject which he had given last session . He had promised to take into consideration the means of facilitating the education of the laity and clergy of Ireland—that was all Sir B , ' . Peel said , and it would be for the house to deal with his measures , when they were introduced , as it thought fit . He wished to know whether it was the intention of the Right Hon . Baronet to throw the University of Bublin open t On that point he had not said a word ,

      Mr . Vhhees said that it was now clear that all the objects of the protective system had been defeated , and that in consequence of the relaxation of that system the present prosperity of the country had been produced . It was owing to the blessed intervention of Providence , and not to any merits of Hon . Gentlemen opposite , that this was owing . The commercial interests were flourishing 1 but the agricultural interest was complaining—labourers , tenants , and landlords . Gentlemen opposite were the partisans of the protective system ; and they were disappointed at its present results . If those results \ v * re bad , what reason could they urge for its continuance ? He rejoiced in the declaration of Lord John Russell , that protection was the bane , and not the support of agriculture , and called upon the house to watch with the closest attention the new financial measures of Government—to support them , if they abandoned , and to oppose them if they were based on , the protective principle .

      Mr . Sheii , alluded , in a complimentary strain , to the resignation of Mr . Gladstone . He thought that Sir R . Peel would think it unfortunate that his Right Hon . Friend should have determined to sacrifice the statesman to the author , and wonld have reason to exclaim , " O , that my friend had not written a book V He { Mr . Sheil ) remembered every word in that book , and he recollected that Mr . ' Gladstone had stated that "the maintenance of Maynooth vtma matter of contract ; that if such contract existed . Tiaynooth ought to be maintained in a degree of splendour worthy of the donor ; but that if no such contract existed , then Maynooth ought to be suppressed . " Now , there could be no doubt as to the

      existence of such a contract made at the time of the union , and confirmed since by many grants of the Imperial Parliament , and therefore he could not help expressing some surprise that a difference on tMs point should have induced the Right Hon . Gentleman to retire from his situation in the Ministry . He gave Sir R . Peel high praise for making this grant , and for the manner in which he made it . He also wished to know whether the University of Bublin was to be thrown open , as it was a point of honour with every Irish Roman Catholic to have its scholarships and fellowships thrown open , as they were not on an equality with their Protestant subjects so long as they were debarred from them . He showed that it was not a small insinuation which Lord

      John Russell had made against the present Government in his admirable speech , for it embraced the injustice of j all their proceedings in the celebrated O'CosmeU prosecution , from its first commencement to its close . He then entered into a discussion on the merits of the Charitable Bequests Bill , and after some other observations , asked Sit- J . Graham if he was still prepared touring in Ms Irish Registration Bill , and to repeat his pledge that conciliation had now reached its utmost limit ? Sir J , Gbaham had no hesitation in stating that it was the determination of the Government to propose an Irish Registration Bill this session . As to the period of its introduction , he could not speak so decided ! j , as it was clear that a measure of vast importance , of which notice had been given that night , must precede it . The Maynooth question and the Academical Education Bill would also precede it ; but it was undoubtenly the intention of Government to introduce such a measure this session .

      He could not hold out any hope that Government would alter the main principle of the Bequests Bill , relative to the holding of land in perpetuity ; but as it was not the intention of Government to place ^ the regular clergy in a worse position than that they occupied before the bUl was introduced , they would have no objection to propose an alteration in it , if it should be found that the regular clergy were damnified by the 16 th clause , and another clause which had relation to it , Mr . Shaw said , that the scholarshi ps and fellowships Of Trinity College , Dublin , could not be thrown open to Roman Catholics , as they were part and parcel of the Protestant Church of Ireland .

      LordPALMEasTON concurred in the satisfaction which had been so generally expressed by the house at the late visit of foreign Sovereigns to this country . He was not , however , sanguine in his anticipations as to the real benefits to be derived from it . The effect of a good understanding between two countries was best seen when casual circumstances rose up which were calculated to disturb it . He thought that the cordial understanding so much boasted of last year had failed on the very first occasion on which it might have been useful . He denied the position laid down in France , ' and acquiesced in here , that Mr . Pritchard was not a consul when arrested at

      Tahiti . He had suspended his functions , quoad the intrusive French officers , who had seized on the island and deposed Queen Pomare ; but he was still in the performance Of consular functions to all British subjects frequenting that island as merchants . If there had been any charge against Mr , Pritchard for endangering the tranquillity of the island , then'he admitted that the French authorities in the island had a right to require ' him to depart ; but it was incumbent on them , before they called on him to withdraw , to have placed their charge against him clearly under his view . No such charge had been laid before the French Chamber , and there was nothing to justify ma removal from Tahiti , even in the most courteous manner . The French officer removed him , because he suspected that Mr . Pritchardhad done something worthy of suspicion . Here then was a gross outrage committed ; and it was the fault of the two Governments that it had been committed , for the protectorship of Tahiti

      never ought to have been allowed . That change in the Government of Tahiti could not be made without incurring the risk _ of a collision , which might bring the two Governments into a very awkward condition . If we had had a stout frigate or two On that station things would have passed in a manner more decorous , and less likely to have brought the two nations into collision . He would not say that there , was great ground for the country to complain , as things turned out at last still he could not say that the result justified those ardent expressions of satisfaction communicated to the French Government , but not repeated to Parliament at the close of the last session . He maintained that our Government had not acted altogether in a way satisfactory to this country . The Right Hon . Baronet had described the outrage on Mr . Pritchard as a gross outrage , for which he had no doubt that reparation would be given by the French Government , and yet no formal reparation for it had ever been demanded by the British Government ,

      Sir R . Inqlis regretted that Lord Palmerston had taken the course he had done on the Tahiti question . For his own part , deeply interested as his feelings were against the slave trade , he would not say or do anything to disturb the arrangement which had been made and accepted as satisfactory . He warned his Right Hon . Friend , the member for Tamworth , that he must not expect to pacif y Ireland by the measure which he had just propounded , or by-any measure of a similar character . Lord Sandon was not prepared to join with the last speaker in his objection to the increased grant to the College of Maynooth ,

      Lord Howick said that nobody had been more anxious than himself to suppress the slave trade ; but what had been the result of all the efforts made for that purpose by this country ? Many valuable lives of our officers and seamen had been sacrificed ; and we had not only failed in our object , but had even aggravated the horrors of the slave trade . We had no right to exercise the police of the sea unless it were clear that in so doing we were promoting the interests of humanity . He was aware that BUCh SMVtunfcuta would not & ud favour with , the house and the Government ; but he was of opinion that if we abandoned our right of search , other nations would be compolled by a joint feeling of honour and humanity to prohibit the exercise of the slave trade by their subjects . The address was then put from the chair , and carried unanimously . . INCOME TAX .

      Mr , Hawes inquired whether the usual trade and navigation accounts would be laid on the table before the 14 th of February , when the Right Hon . Baronet proposed to call their attention to the continuance of the income tax . Also , whether any other papers relating to the state of the revenue , and the operation of the new tariff , would be pre

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      viously laid on the table , so as to enable the house to come to a correct decision on the subject ? : ~' : : ' :-. *• ' : ' -. Sir R , Peei said he would do aU in his power to expedite the trade and navigation returns , and would , if possible , lay them on the table in extenao before the 14 th of February . If , however , this was impracticable , he would take care that an abstract of them should be furnished . He had already caused a paper to be prepared , showing the quantity of articles imported two years before and two years subsequent to the tariff , and would lay it on the table . The house then adjourned at eleven o'clock . Wednesbas , Feb . 5 . The 8 r £ Aj £ EB took the chair at four o ' clock .

      - Mr .. Wall ace , presented a petition from operative bleachers in Lanark , Renfrew , and Stirling , complaining of a protracted detention each day in the rooms hi which ¦ ' a great part of their business was carried on ^ and in which they were exposed to a temperature varying from in to 120 degrees of Fahrenheit , They prayed the house to adopt some means of ameliorating their condition . The Hon . Member gave notice , that he would to-morrow move that the petition be printed in the votes . Mr , YTiKliBTt gave notice that on Tuesday week he would move for a return showing the number of persons prosecuted under the Game Laws in the years 1842 , 1843 , and 1844 inclusive , distinguishing the parties , whether men , women , or children , so prosecuted , the nature of the charge , and the result in each Case ; Stating also the cost of such prosecutions , and also the cost to the poor-rate of supporting the children of persons so convicted while the fathers or mothers were in prison . THIRD-CLASS RAILWAY CAHRL 1 GE 8 .

      Mr . W ALhACE said , that when he gave notice of his in . tention " to inquire of the President of the Board of Trade how many of the railway companies coming within the provisions of the Act of last session had complied with the regulations of the sixth clause , as to having scats and protection from the weather for the conveyance of third-class passengers , and also how many had failed SO to comply , " it did not occur to him that the late President of the Board of Trade was not now in office . He did not know whether any other member of the Govern , meut was prepared to answer his question ; if there were hot any , he was ready to postpone his question to a future Occasion , The Chancellob of the Exchequer suggested that the IIoiu Member might obtain his object by giving notice of a motion for a return of those railway companies whicli had failed to comply . with Abe regulations o ? & e sixth clause of the Act referred to . '

      . Mr . Gladstone said , that as the question related to matters which had occurred months ago , he had no objection to give the Hon . Member an answer . From-returns made to the Board of Trade , he was enabled to state that all the railway companies , with a very few exceptions , had complied with the provisions of the Act of last session with respect to the conveyance of third-class passengers , and the complaints which had been made to the Board of Trade on the subject wore very few indeed . He would not name those companies which had complied with the Act , for that would be to include them all , with , as . he had said , very few exceptions . The Board of Trade had not proposed any alteration in the form of the third-class carriages , but they had insisted that those carriages should be provided with seats , and should be covered in from the weather , as far as was consistent with the necessary admission of light and air .

      That plan had been adopted , and it had proved a great accommodation to the poorer classes . He would mention one or two instances by way of illustration . From the report of the Grand Junction Railway Company it appeared that the plan had been adopted , and that , without any injury worth mentioning to the receipts of the com . pany , 2 , 500 passengers per week of the poorer class had gone by the third-class conveyance , who could not under the former system have availed themselves of that mode of travelling . On the Birmingham line 48 , 300 poor persons had been conveyed in three months , winch was at the rate of 193 , 000 per year . The number previously conveyed in a year was 65 , 000 , so that there had been an increase of about threefold in the number of the poorer passengers conveyed by third-class carriages . These facts would show the great extent of accommodation a § - for led to the poor by this new arrangement .

      Mr . Wallace said , he wonld adopt the suggestion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer , and move for a return of those railway companies which bad failed to comply with the regulations of the Board of Trade , and would fix his motion for to-morrow ( this day ) . < - Mr . Youso moved the usual sessional orders . . Mr . Williams begged to call the attention of the house to some of the orders which would be read for its adoption , Amongst these was one which said "That it is a high in . fringement of the liberties and privileges of the Commons of the united kingdom for any lord of Parliament , or other peer or prelate , not beiag a peer of Ireland at the time elected , and not baring declined to serve for any county , city , or borough of Great Britain , to concern himself in the election of members to serve for the

      Commons in Parliament , except only any peer of Ireland at such elections in Great Britain respectively where such peer shall appear as a candidate , or by himself or any others be proposed to be elected ; or for any lord-lieutenant or governor of any county to avail himself of any authority derived from his commission to influence the election of any member to serve for the Commons in Parliament . " This was one of the resolutions adopted by the house at the commencement of every session , as one of its " sessional orders . " But how was it acted upon by the house V Was it not notorious that peers not only did " concern * themselves in the election of members to serve in the

      Commons house , but did actually send members there by their own direct influence ? and if the act were proved ) as it easily could be , the house had no means of remedying the evil ; or , if it had any such power , it was also well known that it was not exercised . According to the common law , there was nothing to prevent any peer being duly qualified from registering himself as an elector for returning a member to Parliament , and from voting for that purpose . Where , then , was the use of this " sessional order ? " He hoped the Government would take this into its serious consideration , and so arrange it that those " sessional orders" should be in reality what they pretended to be on the books of the house .

      The Chancellor of the Exchequer said that her Majesty ' s Ministers were not » pr interested , in . the question ii * . t " oduced by the Hon , Member than any other mombera of the house . The question was one relating to its privileges , with" which it would not permit the members of the Government or any other body to interfere . The house , and the house only , was the judge of its own privileges , and with that ancient practice he did not think it right to interfere . He did not mean to deny that a peer had a right to vote for a Member of Parliament independently of the right of the house to examine and decide whether the person bo elected had been duly elected . With respect to the resolution read by the Hon . Member , he { the Chancellor of the Exchequer ) did not wish to see any alteration made in it , because he looked upon it as essential to the maintenance of their privileges .

      Mr . Williams would beg to put one question to the Right Hon . Gentleman , He would suppose that a peer duly qualified as to property should pvosent himself to the revising barrister , and claim to have his name inserted in the register . Well , the barrister , seeing all the qualifications quite correct , could not refuse to enter his name . He could know nothing there of the House of Commons , or of its " sessional orders . " Then , the claimant ' s name being on the register , and the House of Commons not wishing to erase the name from it , he was anxious to know in what way the house could vindicate Us privileges . He would ask the Right Hon . Gentleman howit was to be done ? The resolutions before the house were then agreed to . On the next resolution ( that which Mr . Williams had read ) , being read ,

      Mr . T . Buncombe said that it was his intention to renew the notice he had given last session , of a motion for the appointmqnt of a select committee to inquire , whether in the returns of members to serve in the reformed Parliament there had been any made through the direct influence of peers . The Chancellor of the Exchequer said that he was anxious that the resolution , then before the house , should continue on its " sessional orders , " because it was necessary to the maintenance of the privileges , He ( Mr . Buncombe ) was , he owned , greatly surprised to hear the Right Hon . Gentleman make this statement and preserve the gravity of his countenance while he made it . A peer of Parliament must not "concern" himself in any election of a member of Parliament , nor assist him . with his influence ! Why the Right Hon . Gentleman

      when he said this must have known that there was scarcely a county member , Jand ] very " few borough mem . bers , in front , or behind , or alongside of him , who did not implore , almost on his knees , that some peer of Parliament would " concern " . himself in his election in order to secure his return . Was it not then a mockery and a farce to talk of inserting in our " sessional orders" a resolution declaring it to be a breach of privilege that any peer of Parliament or lord-lieutenant of a county should " concern" himself in the election of a member of Parliament 1 Let the house but give him the committee for which he would move , and he would undertake to prove that two-thirds of . the peers and half the bishops ( a laugh ) did " -concern" themselves and interfere in the election of members returned to that house . Why , the

      circumstances which passed before their eyes within a few days must have convinced , not alone the members in the house , for they were convinced already , but must have satisfied every man who took the trouble of reflecting on them , that peers of Parliament did , and were entreated to " concern" themselves in the return of members to that house , ( Hear , hear , and a laugh . ) There was the case of one gentleman , who , " if he did not succeed in persuading a certain peer of Parliament to " concern" himself and interfere in his return , might place the house in the unpleasant condition of being without the services of a Secretary for Ireland . ( Laughter . ) He would repeat , then , that it was a mockery and a farce to talk of maintaining our privileges by such a sessional order as that now before them , and he was surprised that the Chancellor of the

      Exchequer should make the statement and keep the gravity of his countenance . He had last year voted against this resolution , and he would do so again . For his own part , he would much rather that peers did openly vote for members of Parliament . It would bring them in contact with the people , from which they ( the peers ) would derive great benefit . They would find amongst them what they did not always find amongst their own body . They would find more candour , more sincerity , more honesty , and patriotism than they could get amongstmore elevated members of--society . If noble lords roixed more than they did with It & e'iworking classes , they would find few who would give the > : }^ ot « ( Cmxtinued in our eighth , page . ) ::: ' ? v ^ - '« ' ¦ '¦' ¦' ' ' ' £ j -

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Feb. 8, 1845, page 1, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns2_08021845/page/1/