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[ Co nttou & fromtiit First Page ] .... . : , novel in principle ^ therefore it would ,: be ^ well . to postpone the question in order to allow * Mr .. O'Brien to reconsider his position , and toobviate . the necessity of any expression . of opinion by the hoase on . the Subject .. .:. - -.-j : - ¦ - b > .- ! ' ¦«¦¦ -- ' ' : ' ¦ .- --: - ---o .-.-KSeveral other members having spoken on the subject , the House divided on the amendment . .. -, For Mr . Warburton ' s amendment ... -13 , Against it - ... - ... - ... . ..-, —139 ..- ? , Majority against the amendment—r—iBi The House immediatel y divided on the ori ginal snotlon— J 100 " For Mr . Estcourt ' s motion ... * j Against it __ - ¦ . — — -tan Maiority . for the motion ... - - — ~~ , * ... -. * n'PrTpn be
_ Mr . Estcoobt then moved that Mr- ° gSi 8 , committed to the custody of the ^ ^ Ooioael Rawdos suggested to the house > u ^ . prieiy of allowing Mr . S . O'Brien » ^ hourst whether he would not retrace # " *«„ fr 0 m reunibrtuuatelytaken . He w S wi ^ ucerned , the marking , thatso faras J * a ^^ L i most disad--condact of Mr . £ 0 'Brien- t ^ ffi ™ ^ ^ d his vanttKreously with that or ^ amraittees . son , who lad both served on P «™^ compiler . J . O'Consb ^ Wd -gj ® . " s / O'Brien . ment ; a * the ^ ° f j * tuattheTiduse wouldi pause StTB * S 3- * £ ¦ «« - » . ?*— " ^* - - ^• SfaWffi-iiSftttSS ^ the S ^ iX further vote proposed by Mr . » - ^ ^ Mt to Kou " e whether it would not K ' ierthtinSeeyes 6 f the public , if it g ave SSolfc S . O'Brien to decide whether hewftuld ' StW to its clearly ascertained opinion . - . - il ^ Estcouet considered himself acting officially ns the -r ^ an of the Committee of Selection ; -and , as aUfhemlcedeHtswere against delay , hefelfrthatit would " be highly unbecoming in him , if he did not take tbe same course as had always'been taken by iis predecessors , lie should therefore persist in his
Mr . Wabd recommended Mr . Estcourt to make a precedent on behalf of mercy . Mr . O'CoksKii thought it possible , that if this motion were suspended , Mr . S . O'Brien might come to a different conclusion on , this subject . He spoke entirerv from his own suggestions , for Mr . S . O'Brien -wa" ! perfectly capable of deciding for himself on all ftuestions . ¦ ""* t ' - " * • ' •' ; ; - - ' ' "" . Sir R ,. Peel coincided in the propriety of this course , aud a conversation ensued oh the desirability of postponing the notices which stood for Thursday night , in order to g ive an opportunity , for the disposal of this question , in the midst of which Mr . E . B . Bflche left the house in rather a hurried manner , and returned after anabsence- of not more than two minutest ' ¦ ' -. - •" ' - - ' • '•'; - - /¦
Mr . Rooms and Mr . EstcotJrt advanced ; to the tab'e from opposite sides of "the house—the latter caught the Speaker ' s eye , and was called upon to procee d , bat - . *'•' . '• " ;' ¦ ? v ..:- *> . C ; Mr . Roche rose , and waving his band to the Bon . Gentleman to resume his- seat ; said that in alkpro-Trabililv he would spare him ( Mr ; EstcOurt ) the trouble of addressing the'honse . It is my painful duty , said the Hon . Member , to make an announcement -which will probably terminate the present discussion The Hon . Member for" Limerick lias-made a communication to me . He feels so strongly on this subject , that he thinks it tmnecessary that further delay
should be interposed between the present stage ot the proceedings and tile final decision of this house . ( Laushter . ) I hope Hon ^ Members will see- that I am not performing an agreeable duty —{ Hear , hear ) —and nothing but a feeling of respect ; for my Hon . Friend would induce me to undertake it , more especialSv as the house has SuOwH Sueh anxiety to be moderate arid forbearing . But my fion . Friend is so decided and so convinced of the rectitude ofthe course he is pursuihg , that seeing , ho prospect of changing his opinion he thinks it expedient to have the matter put an end to as soon as possible . '
. When the ' hon .: member sat down there was a pause ; after which , ¦ „ .... - Sir ft . Peel again rose and said—Sir , notwithstanding what the hon . member has stated , I must say that I still think it better for us to take our own course . ( Loud cheers from the Opposition . ) v . Tfcedebate was accordingly adjourned to Thursday ne x t and the matter was no sooner agreed upon , than Mr .-S > O'Brien walked up the floor .. ofthe Honseand took his usual seat on theleft of the Speaker , and contiguous to the chair .
RELIEF OF THE POOR . Mr . P . Borihwick , who w a s not d i s t i nctl y he a r d , was understood to give notice that he would upon an eariy < * ay in the ensuing month , move for a select eomuiitfcee to infjuire into the operation of the laws affecting the relief of the poor in England and Wales . PUNISHMENT OF DEATH . - ""Mv . Ewabt gave notice that he would , on the 3 d of May , move for a total repeal of the punishment : ef death . V ' -
WASTE LANDS ( IRELAND . ) Mr . P . Scbope moved for leave to bring in a Bill forpromoting the reclamation of waste lands in Ireland . The honourable member was proceeding to eadain the grounds on which he made this motion , when Mr . Smith O'Brien was observed going over to the Speaker's chair , and after afewwords had passed in private between him and the Speaker , returning ¦ to his seat . - ' ¦ ' - » ¦ ¦ ¦¦ ¦ : '"_ ¦ ¦ . /¦ - . ¦ ^ " Thereupon' the Sekakbk motioned - to the hon . member for Stroud to sit down , which having been complied with , the right hon . gentleman in the chair said—I perceive that the hon . member for Limeto him
rick , has taken his seat , and I have acquaint that such a course under such circumstances is unusual The more usual course is for the hen . member to retire , and not - 'to ; resume his seat until the euestion concerning himself be disposed of . _ Mr . S . O'BRnts then rose and said—Sir , I b ow -with the utmost deference to your authority and to the authoritv of . the House . At the same time ,. 1 Shonld J 10 I feel myself justified in . withdrawing voluntarily , for I have a motion on the paper for tonight of very great importance , and which it had been my intention to bring forward . However , : Sir , I b ow to your o pinion , and will not , of course , ' Temain . The honorirable : member then bowed . tri ¦
ihediaifandwiridrewv . ~¦¦;¦ ¦ :: , ; . x £ ¦ ' mcz : *" ¦ ¦ Mr . ScBOPis i « ume 7 LMs Bpeeeh ; AfterjgMng a history of the manner ia which the subject ofjwaste lands had occupied the- attention / of . Parliament for along series of years , and of the advantagesiicfebe derived from reclaiming them , iheI * statedj , thatTlie object of his bill wasto obtain the means not only . of . giving employment to additional , labourers , hut also of locating large bodies of them . j who could not now o b t ai n farms , ^ n land at present uncultivated . He should thus create a large body of proprietary occu piers , who would be certain to cultivate their holdings with nntiring indnstiyi-. The great benefit he expected from this proposal was , that it would be in the power ofthe State to employ thewaste landsi ina
manner most beneficial to the country ; not only as employing labour , but in locating upon those lands a large number of that unfortunate cla-s who from vai-rious causes are at present unable to obtain land . ; Jt would be in the power of the State to grant to these persons such , leases as would give these persons that permanentinterestin land which was only te befound inadurabletenure . In proof of this position , - hereferred to the farmers af Belgium , Switzerland , and France , where persons cnltivatedtheirsmail pirc perties with untiring industry . This would be of great -importance in Ireland , Trhere the class of middle men wasnowexpiring , and there would shortly be . no midr ^ dle class unless they created in the . way-he , proposed a class of proprietary tenantry , . who would form a 'tody of yeomen with the certainty of enjoying ^ the fruits of their mdustrvV His proposal , therefore , ¦ w ould be this—that ' a board ishonld be constituted , -under the authority of the hoard of Works , in Ireland ,
empowered to purcbtie lands in quantities of not less "than 1 , 000 acres . Be . would suggest that tjais board be allowed to open up these lands , drain ; and divide " into occupations of 100 acres each : and also that these iarms should be let or sold with , a fee simple title . tHe should also wish to recommend that the board 'should follow the plans of the Waste Land Association . A measure of this camprehehsive kind could not " oe long delayed ; and he thought it would add to tfie comfort of the people if the government allowed a yearly grant for the purpose of following out these " suggestions . The Unions would , alsp / have an opportunity of sending unemployed poor upon the waste laads , locating them for the purpose of improvement . This proposal would be opened to others than such : as pessessed capital—allowing persons to occupy under the patronage of public associations , A million and a half of money might be well laid out in the manner heproposeed ; and the plan would soon repay its
expenses . ' ¦ --,,., . Mr . S . CaAwroaD seconded the motion . Sir J . Gbaham didnot offer any opposition to the introduction of this bill , and when it was brought in ' he should give it his best attention , and facilitate its progress : and he hoped that in its passage through thenouse it would receive such amendments as would give it a more perfect character . He begged to offer Jjs tribute to the intelligence and industry which the hon . member for Stroud had brought to this sub-* " - " , - ' .-~ r Mr . E . B . Rochh considered that the strictness of ^ flm law of entail in Ireland was a great bar in the
- wayof improving waste lands , and prevented the emnloyment of English capital for that purpose in Ireiiancl . The house ought to understand , that if any tffood at all was to be done in the manner proposed , -they must spend agreat deal of money , aud carry out the proposal in , a bold , generous manner . If they -entertained the measure at all , they ou « kt to carry it into execution in a compreheusne and earnest manner , and , by means of new machineiv quite indpnendentofthe old jog-trot machinery tuat had so £ been established in Ireland . Mr Wtse considered that there must be seme new arrangements to meet the growing tide of calamity
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with which >? Ia > d -f as opS se a ^^ niut ' Wr-population " 'rere futilft j »*& £ ?„ ribtj i according be consfdered ; to be o '' / rP ^ S a'popnlation- . ^ In to its naturalmeans of * mffi » % f , ££ s , * ^ f ? thes Ireland there w ^ JfP' ^ f the 6 , 000 , 000 there 6 . 000 , 000 ' were * a » te . anu < theMor ^ re-¦ ** WB 'MW . ^^ gjSil could be said that the resourcesi of the country ^ terfere to en able landlation . T ? e , Xt h ^ e ^ uisposition of theirproperty so ¦ * " ? * ° „ nnS- which won l d g ive them the means H ffihrwasV lands . There was no other means ? rtS there being no manufactures there , ofem-Xrin ^ the surplus population . Goyernmentmig ht Ske into their own hands and reclaim such ; lan d s ^ . ^^^^^^
asth elandlords would not or could-not reclaim for themselves ^ No inconvenience could arise from a properly digested measure for that object . They ought " also to encourage agriculture by ; establishing schools and model farms . The best results had followed from what had been done-in that way alreadv , and the most important results might be expected from pursuing the beginning that had been made . He entreated the right hon .-baronet ( Sir J . Graham ) to give his earnest attention to the subject . ' : -i i " ., r ^' Leave was then given to bring in the bill .
RAn-WA ^ BILLS' .. ' "'" : Mr . Hudson obtained leave to bring in a bill for enabling or facilitating the winding up of the affairs of joint-stock companies for making railways which had been formed subsequent to the commencement ofthe last session of Parliament , and for which ; acts of . incorporation should not . be . obtained during the present session . , .. , ; The other orders of the day were then disposed of , and ' the house adjourned at a quarter to one . ' , „ HOUSE OF COMMONS , Wedkesdat , April 29 . ! The house ihet at 12 o ' clock ; . -
TEN HOURS BILL . !;! , Petitions in favour of a Ten HourssPactory Bill , to the amount of nearly- 400 , were presented by various members . These petitions came from various parte Of the whole of the manufacturing districts of Yorkshire , Lancashire , an d Scotland , and they proceeded from millowflersimill oecuoiers , operatives , clergymen , medical men , and , in short , ; persons of all classes , uniting in one prayer—that the house would be pleased to pass the Ten-Hours' Bill , Many of them were numerously and others >; most- , influentially signed .
STATE OF . PUBLIC BUSINESS . I On the question , that the order of the . day be nbw re ^ d for the second reading of the Factories Bill ,. ' . Mr . Hume rose , to appeal both to the Government and the hon . member , for Oldham ( Mr . Fielden . ) No question connected with the industry ahd '_ welfare of this country was of more importance , than " . that of freedom-of labour in every stage ; it , was as * important a s the free d om of ca pital in its ., application to aU the purposes of commerce , and . hef therefore beg- ged to suggest , that , as it was roaUy ^ of national importance , it . should not come on at a morning sitting ib a thin house ,-it would be much better , in orderto a fuil andfair ^ discussion oi the merits , of this bill , that Monday or Friday , or some evening sitting , shoul d be g iven to the consideration , of the subject . j Sir R . Peel could not promise ' any evening whieh the GoveThment . had reserved for their own .
mea-Mr . Hume thought that after the passing of the CornBill the present measure might : then be . taken on a Government dayr ¦ .... ;; . - ., , ' ; .=, ; , ; ,: _ , ' Mr . G . Bankes asked , if , when the Corn Bill had passed , Mr-Hume would vote for this ? [ Mr . Hume , ' I shall oppose itih'evei-y stage . " Then what- were the friends ofthe measure to gain by . delay ? Wednesday was now . the onl y day on which anypubhe business -was transacted ( hear , hear ) and he ( Mr . G . Buikes ) must entreat the hon . member for .. Ol d ham
to persevere . When applied to some time since by some of the delegates from the manufacturing districts for his advice , his ( Mr . G . Banke s ' s ) answer was , that the sooner the bill was brought in the better ; for he well recollected the mischievous ' effect of delay on a former occasion ( hear , hear ) , when this bill , after being approved by a decided majority in the hou s e , was ultimately lost by an unfortunate consent to a short adjournment , which produced . theunhappy result , hot only of . defeatihg the measure , but iof bringing a certain degree of discredit on the house from which it had not yetrecovered- ,
Mr . T . DrocoMBE pressed the necessity of settling this question immediately . ; .... . -,... .. , . . - Mr . Fobstbb was hot prepared . to deny , the importance of the Factories Bill ; in a commercial ' country like this , so dependent on its manufacturing industry , few subjects were more important than the question of shortening , the horn-s of labour ; but . the house OU ^ ht first to decide . on the measuresnecessary to give the people ! ' fodd . ( Hear , ' hear . ) , Thet hon . member then went into a long detail of the state ol theinhabitantsofthe Shetlahdlsles , which , although it was tried to be put a stop to hy Mel Cowper aud Mr . Duncombe , as being out of order , and ; condemned br the latter asl anjndireet way of defeating the Facbirv Bill , was persevered in by Mr . ; Fdrster ;
Siift . Peei , had come down ; to ; the house with the full understanding that they were to proceed with the Factory Bill j and he did , not think that , though Ministers had the right to propose that they should p ass from the order of the day / they would be raising their character in the country by the exercise of that right . ' ( Heaiyhear . ) He did think that they would stand better with the public , and at'the same time greatly facilitate the business befbre-the house , by ' at once proceeding to the consideration oi the question which stood for discussion . " * They ' had still three hours and a-half before them / which they could devdte ' t o th a t ob j ect , and' he hopedHhat discussion on any other ' point than that which they all
understood was to'decupy their attention , ' woul d not Uelonger continued ; . ' ( Hear . ) Notwithstandingthis ' appeal , "Mr . * M ; GiBsoN mado another lohg ' speech about the Shetland Islands ; in the course-of-which he attacked themotives of the members ^ on 'the prptectiohist benches ; he said'they camefdown pretending'totake a deep interest in the 'Factory'Bill ; he rithw'tfiQUghtj-honW bv a'feeling of hostility to fler ^ Mqeaty ' B Government ( "No , ' no ! ' ) j' aid . lbbkihg for an- occasion'of putting the'iGdverhmeht'ih a minority . Hiatherthah from any desire to carry the ob je ct proposed f b y the bill ; ( "No ;; W' ) 'iJ •' .-:.- l - ; - ; -i ; riv ; v-vofi ^ -- * : ^ hi 8 hrought ;) ' ' 1 ^ fT - ° ! ~
up _ ; , . ; r * ;; Sir Ba Ikgiis ;" who ' said . - thehon ; meihberwho last spoke had permitted'himself ^ impute motiVes td . the g entl e men with whom "Jh ' e ( Sir : , R ^ In glis ) usually , acted , and with ^ whoffi-Ke ' coihcided ^ h the present occasion . He'had : stated ;' ' fir ^ I that thei r object was to place Her Majesty ' s Miniatersma minority j , andj , ^ ^ secondlyl that theyLca-oe downtotlie house with reference to this ques ^ ioh \ of the Factory Bill for no real interest in the factory children ^ but for paltry political motives . Now , ; he would ^ takc theliberty to state what ^ rdight ; haveib « n far bettor stated by raaiiy of His friend around him , that they vlelded to none on either side ef'tho ' uQuBe . in a deep
devotiontothat causer-which was - almost a sacred cau s e , thathad broug ht ; , them there that day ( hear , hear ) , and which had brought them together at _ a time—two years ago—when thoy were more closely united than they new . were ( hear ) , and when it was still more painful for them to differ ; from those to whom they had been accustomed to look up with respect . ( Hear ) He would not belieie , for a moment that any ofthose . who voted in the majorityin favour of the Factory Bill were actuated by , im p roper motives . He believed they entertained the views thev did from a deep sense of their personal obligations , irrespective of any party considerations whatever . . ¦ ( Hear , hear ) . - i ;; ; .. . ¦ .-. ' ¦' - ; -:
;; : ; ; ; factory . . ; v " -Theorder . of the day was at length reachjand f \ Mr . FiBLnsN then : rose to move the second reading of this bill .- ^ fter stating his regret , that the measure had falleja into his . hands ., instead of Being conducted to a sucoessfuLtermination by its oiiginatqr Lord Ashley , the hon . member said—I will state to the house in the first place ; what is the . present state of the law affecting persons employed in factories . It is this , —Children , from eight years of age to thirteen , are allowed to work only six , hours a day : from 13 to 18 ,-twelve hours a day ; , no female more than twelve hours a day ; andno person ( male or female ) under the age oi 18 , to . wor k in fac tories in the night ; The bill I now propose to the house to read a second time , will limit the hours of work of
children between 13 and 18 , and . females above 18 , to eleven hours a day , ( exclusive . of time : for meals ) for one year , beginning August , 1846 , and to ten hours a day , ( exclusive of ; time ; for meals ) , from August 1847 . This bill , then , isionlyintendedto limit the h o ars of la b our of children b e t wee n 1 3 a nd 18 , and all females . Those two classes of persons have now to work twelve houw aday , which , with time spent in going to and from the factory , and the time , of meals , makes fourteen hours , occupation—a . period of labour much too long , in my opinion , even f or adults , but , if 14 hours' o c cupation b e too lon g for adults , who can deny that that length of daily labour isaahamefulinfiiction upon children from . 13 to 18 . I must say that the Parliament has . shown a total disregard of those between 13 and 18 years of age—a nerioid of life well known to ; be the most critical .
when more resi is required for . the growing and weakened frame of a young person . He ; repaired from entering into details of the bodily suffering , and social condition , consequent upon the long h o ur s o f work im p ose d u po n these p ersons , They had been frequently and minutely stated , and were fully admitted even by Sir J . Graham himself . He contented himself with adducing some evidence from ministers and elders in Scotland as to the injurious effects of the present system with reference to education , and then proceeded to notice the objections usually made to the measure . " They are , " said the hon . member , avowedly founded upon a supposed necessity for continuing the long hours of work in order to maintain our present eminence in manufactures and commerce ; and lam called ' u p on t o sh e w that restriction of the hours of factory labour would
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not cause a diminution 01 production and ofmanufactororaprofits ., My opinions on thispoint areprin" - toipally formed , from * past experience , and I think that there -would be-no diminusion of production ,- no di-: minution of profits , and no reduction of wages attendant on the shortening of the hours of labour that this bill provides ;! Lhave , with allmy brothers , beenall my life engaged in the cotton . manufacture . I have been in the business ever since the first act for the regulating of factory labour was passed , and extensively engaged in it too . I and my brothers are still engaged in it . We employ altogether between 2 , 000 and 3 , 000 hands . We are now increasing our w . orks greatly ,. and I myself am bringing up all my sons to the same business . I state these things by way . of
assurance to thehouse that I . h ave ex p erience , in ' . the business of which I am speaking , and agreat and increasing interest Jn its 'prosperity . , lam capable of speaking to the effects of past legislation ; and if the bill be so ! destructive as its opponents have fepvfisented , it is a bill to abolish the , business of inyself and my familyi Let me remind ^ the house that no factoy . bill was ever yet passed without the house beingstiinhed with predictions of the ruin that would ensue to manufactures : and all these predictions have been falsified by experiment . You put a stop to night work in allcases except by adult males of eighteen y eara an d u p war d s , which has ' practically abolished night-working in mills . You reduced the labour of " children between nine and thirteen years ot age from-fourteen hours a day to six hours a day .
You reduced the labour ef all females above thirteen years of age from fourteen hours a day to twelve hours , and thereby the labour of all . working people in factories has .---been ' : ' reduced to twelver hours the day . And what have-been the effects of . these r e ducti o ns of the h o urs , of l a bour * According to the predictions . of millowners and political economists , foreig n competiti o n o u g ht to have destroyed bur manuf a cturin g and commer c ial s y stem , our ' m i lls ought to have beer , standing still , our manufacturers ruined , and our workpeople starved !; Have any of these evils overtakes us ? No . < I challenge anybody to show that wages for labour in factories generally were not as hi gh in 1845 as at any time since the act of 1819 for regulating factpry . lahour was passed . As
to the rum . by foreign , competition , -let me ask my brother manufacturers if tliey can say . ' that the reduotibn of the hourspflabourthar-has alreadytakeH p lac e has had the least tendency ; to injurepthem ' ? Nine acts of Parliament have been passed for regulating factories . beginning with 1802 , and proceeding on . to 1844 . Now , what effects have they had on diminishing bur manufactures ?"' ' How have th * y crippled the cotton trade ? The-first ; act , except for apprentices / wrs passed in . 1819 , and , taking the consumption of cotton in .. En g li sh m a nufactor i e s for t h at ye ar , and then . tlw ^ ^ consum p ti o n f o r ; the y e ars 1 8 2 5 , 1831 , 1833 , and 1844 , " all of these beihg ' years in whicha factory regulation act was passed , we shall see that the consumption of cotton goes on increasing greatly as these acts . are passed .. Thus , the consum p ti o n in ' .,
j ,,, ' , ,-- . , :-:. . . . ,. ¦ ., * : . ;• - .. lb . . ; , . .,. - ! , 4819 , was ,.... ,.... [ . ... ; : 109 , 000 , 000 : ' - 1825 ... .:... ,-:,.... r .-. ; .... 166 , 000 , 000 . ' -1831 ... ... ... ' 262 , 000 , 000 1833 ... : ... -...,, .... 287 , 000 , 000 . , 1844 ...- .... .... ..., 490 ; P 00 , 000 ,., "i 1845 ... " ... 632 , 000 , 000 { -:, , ' -In short , there has been a . progressive increase in the consumption . of cotton in this . country . concurrently with the restriction of tho , hours , of . factory labour . Jfow , ; this proves clearlyihat there hss been no decrease of production . \ , Theh , have the manufacturers decreased in wealthunder this increase of production ? . I have no means of giving any . comparative estimate ofthe wealth ofthe body to which I belong . But , if what I have read of speeches made by
manufacturers at Anti-Corn Law meetings be true , both as to subscriptions raised by the League and as to their ability to buyout the whole aristocracy of the country , , surely it , will hot become ' any " member of that body to ' stand up in this house and deny to those young children ,, whose services they must own , that protection from excessive toil which common humanity calls for , / and which protection the right hon . the Home Secretary announced at the beginning of the session would confer hononr , on our / . country . After showing by recent returns ; that there has been a constant increase of mills since 1842 ,. Mr . Fielden said ,- ' - 'No one need be scared by , the cry , which is a lwa y s s et u p w h en a T e n H o urs ' . Factory Bill is Usked for , that we shall be ruined by foreign competition . I estimate that about four-sevenths of the
cotton-wool produced in all parts , except . that for the supply ; of China , is consumed in Great Britain ; . and it is this command of supply of goods in the markets of the- world that insures us our customers . I am convinced that ; if the house . will concede this bill , as I hope- it . will , ; we shall go on increasing our manufactures , and increasing in the employment of hands , quite as fast as we ever have done . « The difference in the cost of the manufactured article to the consumer will be a mere . trifle . Of those articles used by the poor , it , would not exceed a halfpenny for . a poor man's shirt , nor be more than one penny on a poor woman's dress , supposing . wages-to . remain at what they now are , and the same sum be allowed to the manufacturer that he now , has ; for his , fixed capital ; ~ I say this as a manufacturer , and I feci a strong conviction that I am correct in my estimate . He himself advocated the bill because humanity required it , and had merely . used the pounds , shillings ,
and p enc e ar g uments , lor the purpose of convincing them ; that it would not suffer in consequence ofthe opposition which had always been given by the manufacturers to , any attempt to abridge the toil of . their workpeople . In conclusion he called upon the house to recollect that , as manufactures go on increasing day by day , as assuredly theywill do , this species . ; of labour is becoming , not merely the occupatibn . of a class , but of a nation ; that the vast hives of industry in . the north of England and in Scotland must become more and more vast ; that , with their increase , there will be necessarily , an increase ofthe vices and miseries peculiar to them , and already abundantly proved ; and he urged on the house the necessity that there was forgiving the young children whose labour he-sought to shorten time for personal ,. re l axation , time for education and religious instruction , time f or observing the routine of domestic duties , without the knowledge of , which it is vain : to hope that they Will be a creditable ; or even a safe'community . ' _
The question that the bill be now read a second time having been put , , . -. ... . ' Mr . AiNSWORTE said , having presented various petitions in favOuFof the bill from the borough he hail the honour to . represent , he felt that he could not given silent Vote on this question , and , therefore , without any solicitation-on the part of the hon . member . for ; Oldham , he had-risen : to second' his motion ; the hon ; . member , in the course of an able speech , testified str o n g l y t o the fee li n g in f a v o ur o f the bill which pervaded all classes of Society in the borough -which he represented , and - in . the < district generally . He showed . the injurious , effect ; of
protracted labour on Jiealth , and theibenefits in this respect which had been already d e riv e d b y th e worker s in Mr ; Gardner ' s factory at ; Preston , in conse q uence of a reduction from , 12 to 11 hours . It was . of no use laying out money for . parka for ; the benefit of the working classes unless there was some alteration of the hours of labour . ; As he had frequently been told by the operatives at public meetings , how was it possible that they could take advantage of the kindness and muni-icence . of hon . members who contributed to purchase parks for their comfort and recreation , seeing that" the } were bo fatigued after their hours of . labour ; that they were obliged to go ' t to bed ?—( Hear , hear ;) '
Mr . Hume moved as an amendment thatthe bill lie read a second time that day six months . It was an interference with ? capital and labour , ^ altoget her opp ' ssed to sound principles . We' should never be able to compete wilh foreign rivals if trammelled by such a bill . ' He warned hon . gentlemen opposite connected with the agricultural interest to beware how they interfered , by T legislatipn £ to place restricti o ns dhtra 'do and man . ufactuie ^; ifor every mill that was closed tended to incre ^ e / ja ' aiiperism , to raise poor-rates , and endanger the property of the country . No one deplored more than'he did-the long hours of the working classes "; no people in the . 'world laboured so hard , or so lon g , as the English j'aiid 'if it ' was possible to devise any means of relieving them from a' portion of ; their labour , ^ and enabling" tlieih to
devote some portion of their time- to instruction in order to elevate themselves in' the scale of society ^ he would be the firet to adopt themV But he was convinced the tendency of this Measure was to lower the wages of labour , to throw many out of employment , and deteriorate the condition of tho working classes . A halfpenny a yard was sufficient to turn the scale against us in foreign markets . ; He would not compromise his principles by-any support to such ft bill , and , therefore hoped the house would reject it . Sir G . SiBiCKLAND supported the measure . ,, Sir James Giuhau said , it had been his dutyto reconsider attentively the opinions which , he had formerly entertained and avowed on this question , and after the most careful and anxious deliberation , he felt bound to declare that his opinions remained unchanged on this subject , and that , therefore , it w o ul d be his duty to join the honourable member for Montrose , and to vote against sthe second reading of the
bill . He objected to the discussion oft lis measure by the present parliament so soon after the house had deliberated on and rejected the principle of a ten hours' limitation—for he denied that the house had e v er de c id e d in fav o ur of a te n hours ' limitation . He also objected to a discussion on it at this particular tim e , because the restriction on the importation of foreign corn was still continued , although the protection th a t cott o n , . woollen , and silk manufactures had lately enjoyed , was considerably reduced . After describing the magnitude of the interests which would be affected by this measure , Sir James Graham cont en d e d that , if c a rrie d , this bill would be a tax on capital of 16 per cent ., which would ultimately fall on l a bour , and end in reducing the wages ofthe operatives fully one sixth . The Home Secretary , on the part of himself and his colleagues , declared their determination to be fixed on this question . Mr . Mauk Phillips opposed the bill , and lauded Sir J . Graham for " his sound , statesmanlike , and judicious speech . "
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- ^ Mr 7 G ? BBKBs moved-theadjou rnment the- de- - bate , and } hopedrottiat nicrnher 8 Jfl ) o h »< k ? $ »» motion on ^ theipaper , and , the government tf & ft had theilriBh ^ rotection of Lifei Bill ,, w puldacquiesco in giving Jt precedence th ' is . day . . Xiii > l . v < L Lj ' -w ^ v iMr . Hawks refused to give way , ; but . pirK . reel so far as h e was conc e rne d , made . ho ; objection . . Ultimately the debate was adjourned , to Wednesday , week . . ' ¦¦ - . ..: ; : ; ..-, ' ' -. ;; ' .:- • • - : " ^ "< -: < ¦ " ' ¦ | HOUSE Ol ? lORDS- ^ nuiisnAT ; ApR * i M ; ; The housemetat ' five o ' clock . '' .. , ' . _ . . . ¦ . v . Oh the motion of Lord Brougham , a Bill to amenil the Insolvent Debtors' Act was read a first time ..
: BJ ; LIGH ) US OPINIONS RELIEF BILL . ; The Lord Chancellor mov ed the . second reading of the > Religious Opinions Relief Bill . which he said formed that portion of the Bill prepared bythe Criminal Law Commissioners , which related to the disabilities under which Dissenters . laboured , it affected more than thirty . Acts of parliament or parts of Acts , which imposed penalties on different classes of religionists ..- ? It repealed . the ( Acts of Henry III . and Edward I ., under iwhich Jews were held incapable of holding lands ; and likewise the statute which prescribed certain badges to be worn by those professing 7 udaisin : ^ It" abolished the penalties attached to the hearingin any . plaee . of worship of any form of prayer exceptthe Common Prayer . -and of neglecting to attend divine service in the parish churchIt repealed the penal clause of the statute or
. Elizabeth , by which all persons . who should maintain the spiritual and ecclesiastical supremacy ot the see of Rome should be guilty of forfeiture for the first offence , of ' pfcemunire . ' for ' , the second ,- . ! and of high treason for the third . It also repealed the Acts imposing penalties on persons convicted of being Po p ish recusants , and those who ne g lected attendin g church on the .. anniversary . of the Gunpowder Plot ; and it repealed the . 13 th of Elizabeth , \ which inflicted the highest punishments on persons who imported bulhvrescripts , letters , dto , - from the Pope of Rome . He denied that the repeal ofthe statute of Elizabeth would'touch the supremacy , . of the Crown , which rested upon . no statute whatever , but which was part of the common law ofthe realm ; : in order , however ,
to remove all objections on that point , he was willing to introduce a proviso that the , repeal of the penalties should in no wise affect the supremacy ¦ . of the Sovereign of this country in ecclesiastical matters . ; The noble and learned Lord def e nde d his pro p o se d repeal of the : statute against the . importers of bulls , i r escri p ts , and the like , en the ground that as we permitted Roman Catholics to exercise their religion , , and aa they , could hoticarry :, on their ' . establishment , ' or conduct its . 'discipline , without having constant communication j with the Pope , itl . was inconsistent and unjust to retain the penalties inflicted-at the time when Pius had dared to excommunicate Elizabeth , and to , pretend to release her , subjects from their allegiance . """" ' ' " " . .-, 1 Lordr BBouGHAM agreed in thinking the greater part of the actsin . question a disgrace to the statute
bsok , particularly those relating to recusants , which , though dormant , still , possessed a . kind of . pernicious vitality , ffle also ' agreed in , what hadheen said respecting the , principle ' ^ of the Severeigh ' s supremacy , but he could hdt . go thejehgthof , sweeping away all penalties , , and , of opening the ports of England to all the edicts of the'V atiean . V . !' . . _ ,, ,, ' ;; :. /' . | , The Bishop . of London , while professing his . readiness to co-operate in ; the . repeal of all laws .. imposing , penalties . on the ' Tree expression of . religious belief , hoped , to . be excused if the ' ; repeal of the Act of Supremacy . excited his . apprehehsioH . ; ' . , „" ,. / . : , ' , ' ' , I Lord Camots suggested the propriety „ of including in the bill the act which prevented Roman Catholics from presenting to livings , and that' portion of the Emancipation Act which forbade the use of the titles of Archbishop and Bishop , and various other enactments in the same statute .
' The Bishop of , Exeter made" a furious speech against any further concession'to the Catholics , after what he and other Lords considered a' settlement of the quest ' oh ; ' ¦ ¦•"' - ' ^' " ¦ . ' -- ' "'" ' '• - ¦ ¦ I ; Afcer remarks from Lord Beaumont , Lord Colchester , and Lord Campbell , ' the Bill was . read a se co nd time r ' :: ; v ^ : ¦ -. ¦ •' . ' ¦ ¦ : .-- - ¦;! :.-, ¦ .. '> ; .- ¦ • ¦ ! ' 'The Lord Chakcellor" concluded the discussion , asWhis wbntfwith ' a joke . Hesaid ' : —* It is suggested thatthe impertation of bulls is a question for discussion under the new Tariff . " ! Lord Campbell— "Ariddught not to be discussed now , when the cross benches are empty . " : The House then adjourned ; ^¦ . '•'• ' - HOUSE OF COMMONS . WrHURSDiiT ,. ! ApBiL 30
PRiyiLEGE ; - ^ JUR : Wi ^ S ' . ' O'BRIEN . .- ' 9 ; , Mr . Estcoobt moved ¦ that the adjourned debate on the proceedings connected with the hon . member forLimerickbe resumed . ; , = ; , ; , - > Mr . E ., B . Roche said . that . it would bejn thCirecollection of- the house , that at tho conclusion of the debate ; . on the preceding evening , ; it had ,, been h i s painful duty—to come down to that . house , instead ot his hon .,-friend , in order to . make a- certain statem e nt to the . house . The right hon . barenetopposite , acting as he ( Mr . Roche ) admitted he did , in th e fairest and most amicable spirit possible —( cheers)—though , well to give his hon . friend eight-aHd-forty hours to consider his resolution . His hon . friend had considered what course he shouW . pursue , but he complained , -and he ( Mr . Roche ) considered that in that complaint he wasjustified , he com p lained that he had had no opportunity of explaining to tlie house the
position in . which he , was placed ,. ana the reasons which had actuated , hjiii in adopting the course ' he had' fallowed jihder the circumstahces . He did hot know ' what course his hon . friend would have pufr med , but what hewould suggest wasj that the house , either by ' a positive motion , or in some other way , would allow his honourable friend to come to the bar and explain the reason for his ' adbptiori of the course he had pursued on this occasion . ( Hear , hear . ) He was sur e . ' that the house would see that , whatever might be the nature of the rules and regulations of the houseV , that , in justice and ; fairness , and with their usual desire to see fair play administered , they would in their indulgence and kindnessj grant the motion which he had risen te make . He had theref ore simply to move as an a m end m e nt , - "That Mr . William Smith O'Brien should be heard in his place . * : ! * vr ¦ ' ¦ VV' / - '~ ' ?^ ¦ : ¦;'
. . .. .. Mr . O'Connell seconded the motion , and said his honourable friend ( Mr . Smith ^ O'Brien ) would no doubt be satisfied at the way in which the subject had been brought before the house ; but he ( Mr , O'Connpll ) did not think his case had been put in a proper manner before the hops ? , ,,, ; . ¦ , ,,,: ; , i , Sir R ., Fuel— Sir , it is my ; , ; desire ; to r , elax the strict rules of the . House as far asppssiWel—( Hear , hear . ) But , at the ' same tiniei I ^ do not thiak that , as far as ^ my private' inclinations are concerned , I wishteact . on that p rin c i p le , but in the . poMtioniin which 1 stand I owe a dutyto the , Hous ' e ^ CCh ' eers ) - — and therefore , it is ofthe utmost . importance to ^ consider whether it would be advisable to ; establish a precedent , by granting the araendmeht of the Honourable member—we miist . consider what will be
the effectof the relaxation of the House , I must remind the honourable member ( Mr . O'Connell ) that the hon . member for L'mericlc ( Mj \ S . O'Brien ) , hafl every opportunity offered to . him to obey thedvder which . the House niade oh tlie subject ; and'l '; do distinctly recollect that , in speaking on the subject , lie said that although he had such an opportunity , he did not think he should obey it , because his sentiments on the subject were already on record in the correspondence which hadtakehplace on the subject , and to which he said he must refer as the grounds for refusing to attend .. I find , bein g in his place , havirg been called upon'by the Speaker , he stated that he had already stated two reasons , that he had no further observation to offerupOn the
matter , and that he still held his deteiinihatie ^ n , ' ,. He then withdrew . "Sow , I apprehend , harin ' gf declined toobey the orders of tlie house , ' he is in | what is technically called ,. Icontehipt . Whether or not there irere precedents for acceding . ' to . the motion how made , I am not . ; aware , but ^ beg that you will have the goodness id , state' what are ; the rules' of the housed . If they are in favour of the extension ^ Iwill certainly be rejoiced , ' but if they are the ' reverse , I wjll feel in my painful jduty ; to support ' the ' rules of theHouae . " . ' . / "; . ; ' . ' .. ' . . ;" " ' -. , ' The Speaker— I must state , with very great regret , rremember ho precedent which would justify this house in acceding to the amendment . { Hear . ) The honourable gentleman had an opportunity of beinsr
heard in his place and that was the time to make any explanation he thought proper . The hon ., member did hotldo . that , and the house of Commons then resolved that he had been guilty of a contempt . I cannot call to his memory any pre ' eed e ht which would justify . thohousein acceding to this rhqtioh . " ^ Mr . Rochk of collide hoWd to'tiio . decisiiri of the house , and he would nbwhegleaye to ' ask whether there was any reason why the hon . member should hot be heard at the bar of the house . * The Speakbb said that . there was no precedent' for ah hon . member appearing at theI bar of thehouse unlessasa criminal . '' ,:, " ¦ ' ¦ ' ' Mr . Roche—Of course I bow to the decision ofthe Speaker . ' ' : " c " The Speaker then put the question—that William Smith O'Brien , Esq ., having been guilty of a contempt , by neglecting to attend a railway Committee , during , the present session , after having been
summoned—Resolved that a . wanant do issue against him , and that the Sergeant-at-Arms do arrest him accordingly . Mr . M . Milnes , amidst great impatience , said he rose humbly to submit tothe attention tf- the house whether it would not be possible to avoid the ' unpleasantness ' of agreeing to the course proposed . He believed it was perlsctly clear , that if the hon . member should continiw to remain in a state of contempt he could not take his seat in the house , nor of course take part in the proceedings . If this debate wete adiourned till that day six months , ho apprehended that the lion , member for Limerick would be abl « to take part in the deliberations of the house , ami he did think that the best way of avoiding the unpleasantness that attended the coui'so recommenu ' jd by the hon . members that had made the ori ginal motion would be to agree to the adjournment of this debate
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turthat "dayWttonths ^^^^ divide . "') , , ; ,,. . , , .. M |? A ' . ?_ _ 1 , ... :, ¦ ,, _ : ;!? i :.. ;; v , . ¦ _ .- . . t . - iA in * >; : A *» Horr . ' Mkhbeb harJDg ^ seconded . th . is . amehdme h t , the hoh . " mer b . b e r sai d , that as it appeared hot tomeet the view ' s of ' the house , 'he ' wohld withdraw it .- ^( Hear , 'hear ;) : ; i > ¦ ¦ " ¦ - ' " n ' a ^« f' > : ' ^ - ;' ., ;¦ . • j Strangers were then- ordered to withdraw . .- No division ^ hpwever ^ tookrplaeej in conse q uence of the motion being agreed to . It was then ordered that Mr /' Sniith O'Brien should be committed to the custody of the Sergeant-at-arms , and that Mr ; Speaker be directed to issue his warrant accordingly . ... Shortly . afterwards ; . the Sergeant-at-Arms appeared at the bar ,. Jaiid being called upon . hy ; the Speaker , ' said " " Sirilhave to acquaint the House " that ; in obedience to the ordersof the House , an d in " execution of theiwarrant , I . have taken Mr . Wil-: «« liamSmith , 0 ' -Brien . " ' .,::,.-,-.- ; .- , ; , . The Sergeant then retired from the , bar .
^ DANISH CLAIMS . M . Hawes then moved thatthe house would , on Wednesday next , " resolve itself into a committee to consider of an address to Her Majesty , praying that she would-be graciously p leased to advance tothe claimants for losses sustained by the seizure of Briti s h ships and cargoes of the Danish Government in 1807 , the amount ' of their respective losses as ascertained by the Commissionei's appointed for the investigation of Danish claims , a n d r epo rt ed upon t h e
12 th day , of May ,. 1840 , and assuring her Majesty that the house would make good the same . The hon . member , in advocating his motion , gavea narrative of the facts' of the ca se , which has been repeatedly under the . consideration of Parliament , and called upon those who had supported it on tour different occasidna 1 before to supp' .-rt it again on the present occasion . Tlie question involved in it was n o t a q ue s tion of law , but a mixed question of law , equity and justice . Sir J . Hammbk seconded the motion .
The , Chancellob of the Exchequer opposed the ' motion . ' onthe ground thatthe Government could not make compensation for captions during a war . I A discussion of- some length then took place , in which Mr . Watson , Mr . Hume , Mr . M . Gibson , Mr . i Wakley , and Colonel Sibthobpe supported , and Mr . Gabdwbll and Mr . F . Bariho opposed the motion . The only noverfoature in the discussion was a remark i of- Mr . Wakley , who observed that , as the Government hadmot obeyed . the recommendation of the house on this subject , it :. was in contempt , and the gentleman below stairs ( Mr . S . O'Brien ) ought not to'be ' in solitary confinement . .- ' After ? 'a shortfeply from Mr . Hawks , 'the home divided , when there appeared for the motion—Ay 68 ¦•§••«'••••••••• , # §• # ••§•••••» # •?••?••• o 9
i ' -- ' " _ -Ma 36 Ti ^ a gainstthe"Goveriim ' eht '' . 18 ' ! Mr . O'CdawBiii then ' gave i notice that he would on Friday , moveforithe ; discharge , of Mr ..: S . O'Brien from . the ^ custodjof , the Sergeant-at-Arms . ; CONfiITipN . " OF ]' RAIL \ f AY LABOURERS . | ' Mr . BonrnniBjin a . short . sseech , which was altogether inaudible .. in' the gallery ,, moved . the appointment of a select cohimii > tee to inquire into the cohditi 6 i 5 '* 6 f the labourers * employed in the cbfistruction ' of'railway ' s and other public ; works , and » into the remedies ; which might be calculated to lessen the . peculiarjeyils , if any , of , that condition . .., KMr , EwABT , ( 'h sesondihg the motion , remarked that the inquir y was stron gl y call e d f o r b y the demoralized condition of / that class of people .
! Sir . iJ . GBAHAM ; Said , he would save the Speaker the trouble of putting the question , by at once stating that it ' was riot his intention to oppose the inquiry . He was obliged ' to the hon ; member for bringing the matter under the consideration of thehouse , although he did not anticipate that anything very important would result from thesuggestions of a committee . He considered that railway companies did not sufficiently avail themselres'of the powers with which thoy were veste d , in keeping an efficient police force along their respective lines , and he thought that they should be compelled to do so .: He m . ust ^ say , that in many districts it was absolutely necessary that the payments should be made to * tho labourers in kind , and not -in money . . Heknew , however , thattheafstem ' was . open to greatabuse , ; healtogether condemned the principle
of paying the . people in paper notes , and he hoped that ' sometKing might be done to ' p ' utan end to it . ' He also admitted that the subject was one of great importance , which it was worth inquiring into before a committee , and whatever suggestions they ( should make it would be his duty to attend to . . , „ . ; Mr . Hum e condemnod thei " truck system , " but at the same time said | there were many advantages conferred upon labourers by large compahiea supplying them with the necessaries they required . He recollected visiting the very , extensive works that were established at Lanark . There all the workpeople were supplied with every necessary at 15 per cent , cheaper thanithey , could have purchased them elsewhere .: He again condemned any . meddling , bebetween employera and employed . A desultory discussion followed , in the course of which
Mr . Waklet said he did not know what was to be gained by the inquiry . It was notorious that the labourers , preferred Amusing themselves to going to church oh Sundays , and their inquiry could not alter that . ' .. The people themselves had not complained of their conditi o n , and if they had , he w o uld v e ntur e to ' s ay , their complaint would not have been attended to—as he knew that when the people petitioned the house for the redress of any grievance , their petitions wereneyer taken notice of ; bntwhen there was no petition from the people , themselves , immediately the greatest alacrity was-displayed in granting ahv
motion made by an honourable member , ' which ap . peared to him' ( Mr . Wakley ) to be most extraordinary .: They had business enough , before the , house already ^ , without , superadding this discussion .. ; ' If tlie pieople were ignorant it was the fault of the State , which did riot provide sufficient education for them . He saw no reason why the poor should be debarred from , rational recreation upon Sunday , and thought any infringement on their humble sports by the poopies' house would be most impolitic , as well as a most improper proceeding . r .... .-. .. ; . . i : ; u . ¦ . . . ^ 'Themotion was agreed -to .- ' - ' - ' ' ;' j ; ^ i .: ¦ - . * ¦¦•¦
Several returns were ordered ; and Sir R . Peel ; on the authority , of , two 'precedents , ( . ' ) moved , that the Sergeaht-at-Arms be ordered to permit Mr . 0 'B « ib * i , in his custody ; to attend to-morrow the eomraitteo ol the House of Lords sitting on the operation of ' the Irish Poor Law . The motion was agreed to . The house adjourned at Ten o ' clock .
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aner some , in wnicn ine JWl or Oalhousie , Earl Grey , Lord Monteagle , Lord Brougham and other noble lords'took part . 'Several other bills were forwarded a stage hand the ' house adjourhed : ' ; . . ,-. '; • ' ¦ HOUSE ! ,. OF COMMONS-Friday , ' Mir 1 . ,
-MR . SMITH O'BRIEN . '\ '; Mr . E . B . Roche communicated to the House a letter ' written to him by Mr . Smith O'Brien , in which that hon " member complained of having been misrepresented by his friends '"' , He did not , he said , coniplain of being ' denied aii [' opportunity of addressin g the h o use , but he bad been taken unawares by the motion made by the chairman of the committee of selection , who , besides , 'had not read the letters on which- 'the case was grounded m ' ex t erna , but only portions of them . Mr , O'Brien concluded his letter by saying , he should make no further appeal to tlie house , ; and that he was ; most anxious the house should be informed "that he was " no party ' to aiiy motion for his discharge , " The reading of this letter was followed by a- burst of laughter . :- " , Mr . O'Connell post poned to Monday ! his motion relative to the discharge from custody of Mr . Smith O'Bner i .
IRISH COERCION BILLr ; - ' -i The adjourned debate on the first reading ' of ' the Protection of Life , Ireland Bill , and Miv O'Cbhnell * ^ amendment thereto , was resumed by Mr ; P . Somera who opposed the motion . Mr . Maurice O'Cohnell followed on the same side ; ' - ; ''' - '' ¦ ' :, ; Mr . CoLQunonN supported the Bill , though he considered it insufficient for its object . Mr . T . O'Brien , iri giving his opposition to the bill , contended that it would create universal disc o nt e nt , an d woul d , make life still nior « insecure than it was at present in Ireland . It would not reach in the smallest degree the source from which
the crimes . now complained of originated . , lue source of those crimes was the strife which had so long existed between the landlord aud the tenants of the country , and which led the first party to acts of oppression , and the latter to acts of retaliation . When one party , by clearing their estates , forced the people either to take refugein the bogs and the churchyards ; or to perish and die in the highways and ditches , could it be surprising that the other retaliated by threatening letters , by violence , and by murder ? If you coerced the people for committing such crimes , ought they not alse to coerce their superiors , whose conduct gave rise to such crimes' ? Until some check was given to the exterminating violence of the landlords , there could be no peace , and without there could
peace be no prosperity , in 1 Ireland . He concluded by declaring that , if tins oill' should unfortunately pass , you would 'have in ' -less 1 than twelve months , fifteen instead of five Irish counties in a state of intolerable disturbance Mr . 'Bsllew , M r Sh a rm an Cr a wford , Mr . E B Roche , Captain Layard , and Colonel llawden spoke ^ Tn'if i * n d ?? ^ on , e ? -Ge"eral > Mr . » ScfiS ^ CaPtamFitZM ^^ . Mr . H . Grattan , after an impassioned denuncia- ' tion ofthe agrarian murders by which . Ireland had been recently dis . racod , proceeded to coXinn wSh even rtiU greater warmth the oppvonive an ™ unc o n stitutionalpvovi 91 or . B ofthis Curfew Bill , whigh was ^ e \ n ^ PreS S * but ld ««^ ti 6 na % IS . _ LordG . Bi ^ cK denied in the most explieit ami
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po » itive rterms the charge that-bad -been made ^ T " house , and by a Cabins Minister ( Lord LinC 0 , v \ *' % i a . y ^^ m ^ tm ^ party , that thoy had beeii guilty of making a foul comnZ with the Repealers . lord O . Bentinck ple dged him < . » u thatthe only communication betweenhim and Mr Sn ?» i . O'Brien wasa letter written by ' the . latter and whiclu n * Noble Lord publicly aasweredintho House , iminedlauw after he had consulted with his friends . Thus what iTS Lincoln had designated on the hustings «« the fact Tf compact , " was a fact without the least foundation Lord G . Bentinck ' s explanation was received wl » loud cheers . m * . The House at length divided—For the first reading . " ... ... 274 Against it . .: ... ... 125 . ¦¦ _ ¦ Majority for tho first reading ^—149
, Sir R . Peel annouuced . that he would move the second reading 011 Monday , the 23 th inst ., and that he would R 0 on with the Corn Bill on Monday next . He proposed to take the discussion on the Sugar Duties as soon as pos . sible , and to proceed with the Customs' Bill with as little delay as practicable . , ; , ; , ' . . The adjourned debate on the Polling Places Bill was resumed , aud after a few' observation ' s , was again post , poned to Monday , ' ' ¦' ¦ '¦ ¦ ¦¦ . - ¦ : ¦ The other orders ofthe day were disposed of , and the House adjoumedat Two o ' clock to Monday .
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THE CHARTIST CO-OPERATIVE ' . LAND ,, SOCIETY . ; Meetings . for the purpose of enrolling , members and transacting ' other business connected therewith * are held every week on the following days and places : — ; -- ¦ -. .-¦ ; - : ¦ - - > -.- ... ¦' . ¦ . ; . * ¦ •'•¦'•¦ ' \ SUNDAT EVBKINO . South London Chartist Hall , 115 , Blackfriars-road at halt-past six ^ o'clock . — C i ty Chariia Hall , 1 , Turn again-lane :. at six " o ' clock . — Westminster : a t tho Partheniura CJub' Rooms , 72 , St . Martin ' s-lane- at half-past seven . —Somers Town : at Mr . Duddrege ' s : Bricklayers ' Arms , Tonbridge-street , New-road , at half-pastaeven .-r-Tower Hamlets :, a . t the Whittington and Cat , Church-row , Bethhal-green , at " six o ' clock prbcbe ] y ^! Smmct ( ' ff brigade ; at the Rock Tavern , Lisson-grore , at eight o ' clock precisely . —Maryleione at t h e Coach Painters ' Arms ' , Circus-street , at hallpastseven . ¦ ' , ; . . .,. ,
. M 0 NDAT EVENING . - . .,, . Camherwell : ai : the Mohtpelier Tavern , Walworth , at eight o ' olock precisely , ' ' " ¦ ' ¦ " - " , " ' ;' ' "' TIIKSDAT BVKKIKO . Greenwich : at Mr . Paris ' s , Cold Bath , at ei g h o ' clock .- v : ~ , r . \ p-x-, ' i ' -:, -:-: a ' ' h-jv-:, ' .- ' . ; -. .. ; .- < . -. : Newcastle-upon-Tyne . 'This branch of . the Chartist Co-operat i ve , Land Society . meet in rthe house of Martin Jude . 'Suri . Ihn . 'Side , every ' ; Monday even « ihg , from seven ' until nine o ' clock , for thd purpose of receiving subscriptions and enrolling members . ' ' 1 i ce s ter : ! The members an 'd committee of the Cooperative .. Land i ; Society meet at 81 , Church-gate , every Sunday night , ' at six o ' clock . Armley : The members of the Chartist Co-operative Land Society meet at thehouse of Mr . Willi a m Oatei , boot and shoemaker , Armley Town-gale , every'Monday . evening ,. at eight o ' clock . iv .-... '¦]¦ ¦ •¦ : ivA-ir .:---- ;* •• ¦ : ' ¦
, Chahtisx Hali/, .1 , - Turnagain Lane,...
, Chahtisx Hali / , . 1 , - Turnagain lane , Parringdonstreet . —A meeting ofthe shareholders [ will be held in tlie Coffee-room , " on Sunday morning next , May 3 , ' at half-past ten precisely . ¦; Iri' - 'the' evening at' s even , Mr . ' Shorter will deliver a public'lecture ; siihject"The influence of . religious ; establishments on the progress 1 of opinion . " . .. . ,. ; ,. . . .. ; ..., . South Loxpox Chartist'Hall , 115 , Blaekfriarsroad . —Mr . John Skeltoh wiil lecture on Sunday evening ( to-morrow ) at halt-past seven : subject— "The Philosophy of Society . " , ¦ ¦ „ . . ;¦ ...- ' . ;¦ . ¦ :.,.. ;« ' - Oajibebwbii / aud Walwobth . —A meeting will he held at the Mdntpelier Tavern , "Walworthj on Monday eveningliext , May i , at eight o ' clock precisely . " Bilston . —A public supper will take place at Mr . Linney's ,: in celebration : of the first colony by the Chartist s . Co-operative Land Society , oa Mon d ay evehingi May ' ll . Our friends are requested to mafce speedy application for tickets , as the number will be limited .- '
IA Haumonic Meeting will be held at the Clock House ; Castle-street , Leicester-square , on Tuesday evening . May 12 , for , the benefit of Mr . Llewellyn . A ball will conclude the evening ' s amusement . Tickets 6 d . each , to be obtained at the Parthenium . and of Mr . T . M . Wheeler , 83 , Dean-street , Soho . Tms Members of tub Girr LocALiir will meet at the Hall , Turnagain-lane ,, next Sunday evening , MayS . " . ¦ ¦ ' ' MAitYLEBbKE . —Mr . C . Doylewiillecture on Sunday even i n g next , May 3 , at the Coach Painters ' Arms , Circus ^ street : subjeet-i ' - ' The Irish Coercion Bill ; " at halt-past seven precisel y , . -.. ¦¦ - .- ,
,--The Fbaternal Democrats will assemble at their place ' of meeting , ; No . 20 , Great Windmill-street , on Monday " evening , May 4 , at seven o ' clock . Cards of membership are now ready . ' - Somers 'Town . —Mr .-Joseph Marriott ( late of Bristol j will lecture on -. " the Literature , Foliticg , and immense utility of the Northern Star , " at the Bricklayers Arms , Tonbridge-street , New-road , on Sun day evenin g n e xt , Ma y 3 , at eight o ' clock . The > Democratic Committee tor Poland ' s Rk * generation , will meet on Monday evening , May 4 th , at 9 o ' clock , at No , 20 , Great Windmill Street , H » ymai-kct . ; * . " Towkit flAMLErs . T-The committee men of the various' localities for raising means to pay tli ' r
delegate to the forthcoming Convention are requested to meet . at : the . Whittington . and Cat , Church-row , Bethnal-green , on Sunday ( to-morrow ) evening , at seven o ' clock . The adjourned discussion will be resumed at eight o ' clock precisely . ' ¦ ' - All parties holding tickets of the lata supper in commemoration oi the birthday of the late Henry Hunt , are requesed to attend on Sunday evening , at , the . Whittington and ¦ Cat , Church-row , Bethual- g'reen . ' ' Hammersmith . —A meeting of this district of ' the . Land Society will be held oh Tuesday evening next , in the , Committee Room ef the Temperance : Hall Bridge Road , on Tuesday evening , next , May 5 th at eighc o ' clock . _ The members of the Chartist lovalHj w ill assem bl e at the ' same time and pl-ice .
Th 2 Members- of the NATiosfAt , Victim Commitieb are requested to meet in the ; office of the Chartist Land Society , 83 , Dean-street , on -Friday evening next , May 8 th , at eight o ' clock precisely . South Loudcn CnAntiat'HALh . — A ; meeting of shareholders will be held' on Wednesday evening next , May 6 th at eight o ' clock precisely . - _ Exilks RestohAtion Committee . — A meeting will he held at the Chartist Co-operative . Land Office , S 3 , Dean-street , on Monday evening next , May the 4 th at eight o ' clock precisely . :
Uunr . ^—Ihe members of this society are requested to meet at the house of Martin Ireland , - on S un d ay next ,, at six o ' clock in theevening . ¦ ¦ ¦ - ¦ , . RociDALE . ^ -Mr . Thos . Clarke of the Executive ' will lecture in the Chartist room , Mill-street , on Sunday nextrthe 3 rd instant , at six'b ' cloclv in tl a evening . A meeting of the Land Societ y will take place at three o ' clock in the afternoon , r .. Mahchksteb . —Messrs . P .: M * Grath and T . Clark , will address the people of Manchester on Sunday next , in the Ca rp enter ' s Hall . Chair to be taken at half-past six ' o ' cloek . , -
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,, [ From the Gazette of Friday , May 24 . ] John _ wniiam Pitsch , . Suokville-street , Piccadilly , tailor — Godfrey Bi njfley ' Wadsworth , Broad-street , Solden-square , apothecary—Charles Hambridge , Curtaln _ . road , Shoreditch ; coachsmith—Edwin Buonaparte Smithis and James Alexander Thomas Mathews , Great Dover-road , Newington ; Surrey ,- glass merchants—John llar ' ow , heic-jst « rrsquare , tobacconist—William Toogood Timewell , Charlotte-street , Blackfriars-road , silver lead renner—George' Baxter , Church-strtet , ' St . George ' s , Southwark , currier—William Sheffield ,
Bagnigge-wells-I road ; grocer—William Sheffield and ? John -Sheffield , Lower Acton-place , Bsgnigge-wells-road , grocers—Thomas Gandy , . Loirer-rond , Islington , grocer — Cbarlei Joseph ' Edmunds , Bluntisham , Huntingdonshire , apothecary—William Bradshaw , Grettoh ; Northamuton Bhire , cattle salesman—John Harrison , Kih gstoh-upon-Hull ship chandler—Edmund Thomas Allen , Castlegate , Yorkshire , apothecary— Thomas Hauson , . Leeds , builder—* Richard Marsueii . B r y nmawr , Brecknock , linen draper—P .-yce Mottram , Shrewsbury , draper—Thomas Harrison , Birmingham , victualler — Edward Few , Manchester cabinet maker—Samuel Rodgett , Blackburn , Lancashire ! iroufounder .
Uiuuiu Uereavemeut Died At Glasgow On Tuesday Last, April-21, 1846. Adam Gammon, ; Aged ^8: He Has Left A Wbfe And Three Fit** 1 J4*Ba*« ^V^ *** Alllta ..Ll» .^ J L._.. .... ¦ -«V A.
uiuuiu uereavemeut Died at Glasgow on Tuesday last , April-21 , 1846 . Adam Gammon , ; aged ^ 8 : he has left a wbfe and three fit ** 1 j 4 * BA *« ^ V ^ *** ALllta .. ll » . ^ J L . _ .. .... ¦ - « v A .
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l ! ! uuuureuw muu- sau . M . V . ( Jameron ' s loss is deeply regretted by all whokuew him ; he was a sterling and unflinching Chartist , ' since the first com . mencement of the agitation , and upheld the democratic principles from hi * earliest years ; -he was the first Chair , man ot the Glasgow Branch of the Chartist fJo-operativa Land Society His remains were followed to the silent grave on Sunday last , by a large concourse of hia ' old iriends and associates . «« . uiu ^ Hit v ^ tT ' in Mancn « ter , on Monday the S ™ P" * $ * ' ^? hn R 0 ach ; a man that 1 « ^ o « red ' W . M ? n , I - ? rtist CttUSe * He *™ a kind and & V , mte ^ usbani 1 ' » warm-hcartedMend , andnucou .. ; , ' ' Ui 3 '""" in , will . be intemdin St . Patrichshurial ground , on Sunda y the 3 rd of Mar . Lilall ' Jt tl ° nit ? 1 , eStei ' ' wiU raeet itt * e Carpenters dUll at two oWfocb , to follow his remains to the grave .
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urnec , in the ssimo Street tti \ d l'arisli for tlie l ' r > pnetor , FEA . TiGU . S O'CUXVOR e " o V »« I pnUish * hy W jtLiAM-lbwi-n- , of i „ . ij fe ^ -A E « riS don . street ,: Wahvo « li , lu tho l'aifcfi of S :. Mary , N « wJ vngtoii , in the Counb of Surrev , at tUe Oto- ^ - Great ^ Ylndmill ^ treet , llTiymlirket , in the Ciy _ of Westminster , j . ; , SaivrOay . May 2 . iSlu .
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Northern Star (1837-1852), May 2, 1846, page 8, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns2_02051846/page/8/
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