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    virtue nor a crime in any one who uses the best means in his power of being informed . To say , then , that a man who finds himself incapable of extract . ing" from Scripture the doctrines of the Athanasian Creed , is on that account to be damned , is really so

    ferocious and shocking a doctrine , as to disfigure the creed of any Christian , society upon earth . It is derogatory from the honour of God , and militates directly with his attributes , nor should any authority whatever induce the pious and well-weaning Christian to succumb to such a terrible

    alternative . The evidence of Dr . Magee upon this point , is as follows : —Question—Does not the Athanasian Creed exclude such denominations of

    Christians ( alluding to Unitarians , Socinians , &c . ) ? Answer— " The Athanasian Creed undoubtedly does exclude them as such . " Again , in another part of the answer— " Their rejection of the doctrine contained in the

    Athanasiau Creed bein <* laid down as a fact , their exclusion by that creed is undoubted ?*

    Such , Sir , is tlie evidence of Dr . Magee , as far as relates to the Athanasian Creed ; and I would suggest to his Grace , with all submission , whether as this creed applies itself to the

    purpose of excluding otliers from salvation , others might not in turn form an alliance to exclude it ; whether the various sects of protesting Christians , Protestants , Presbyterians , Socinians , Arians , Baptists ,

    Independents , New Light , Old Light , Quakers , Shakers , Thumpers , Junipers , &c . &c , might not come to an unanimous resolution of turning it out of doors , and of transmitting it to that place , where , by its anathemas , it so charitably consigns many others .

    In thus doing , I would take leave to remind his Grace , we would be following up the principles of Tillotson , of Sherlock , of Herring , of Chandler , and of other divines of the most distinguished reputation and abilities ,

    principally of the Church of England ; and were we to count head 9 , we should lie supported by a large majority , not only of the clergy of the Church of England , but also of the Dissenters of ihe present day . E . R .

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    47 : 6 Reply to Mr * Rutt on Ordination Services .

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    Manchester , Sir , August 5 , 1825 . FEELING a lively interest in every thing connected with our relitu , ous concerns , I have read with no ordinary pleasure the late controversy in your pages , respecting Ordination

    Services . A few years ago , I was of opinion that they could not be continued among us without one or both of these evils—either entangling a young minister in a premature avowal of his faith , or perpetuating a worse than superstitious custom / As a Christian , who rejoice in the enjoyment and

    use of " the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free , ' I have been accustomed to regard with jealousy every innovation which could possibly deprive us individually , or as a body , of our religious freedom , and again carry us into that darkness of error and will-worship , from which we are now happily delivered . With these

    sentiments , it was not without some apprehensive feelings that I heard of the intention of the respected minister of Moseley-Street Chapel to become the object of such a service : but

    unwilling to have my prejudices confirmed without witnessing what I had only before heard of ; and being further induced by the expectation of hearing so many excellent and learned ministers , I determined to attend the

    service— the result of which was the beginning of that change in my mind which Mr . Baker ' s elaborate defences of Ordination Services have

    completed . My absence from home at the time that gentleman was ordained , prevented me from having the pleasure of being present , and of hearing those excellent services which I have

    since read with unmingled satisfaction I . confess , Sir , I should be at a loss to conceive how our friend Mr . Johns ( pp . 282—284 ) could entertain such feelings as he does on this subject , had I not for years indulged similar prejudices , which were only removed

    by being actually present at Mr . J . JTayler ' s Ordination . The objections which Mr . Johns has brought forward against the continuance of this service , I have frequently heard canvassed ; but I must say they appear to me strikingly feeble by the side of those advantages which have been so triumphantly urged in its favour . Mr .

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  • Monthly Repository (1806-1838) and Unitarian Chronicle (1832-1833), Aug. 2, 1825, page 476, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse-os.kdl.kcl.ac.uk/periodicals/mruc/issues/vm2-ncseproduct2539/page/22/